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Speaker 1: Kane Williamson is stepping down as the All Black as

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Speaker 1: the black Caps captain. Rather, he's also turned down a

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Speaker 1: central contract with New Zealand Cricket. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: switching to a casual contract so that he can play

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Speaker 1: in overseas T twenty leagues over the next year whilst

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Speaker 1: still being available for black Caps selection. Scott Winning is

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Crickets CEO. Hey, Scott, did you see this coming?

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Speaker 2: We've been talking with Caine for a while, so it

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Speaker 2: didn't come as a surprise.

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Speaker 1: No, how long have you been talking to him about it.

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Speaker 2: For about a month? Probably? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What about the Lockey Ferguson decision? Did you see that coming?

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Speaker 2: Again? You know when players sort of come towards the

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Speaker 2: end of their careers, you know, we know that they're

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Speaker 2: going to be looking at other opportunities. So I wasn't

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Speaker 2: aware Lockie was going to turn down a contract. But again,

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Speaker 2: it didn't really come as much of his surprise.

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Speaker 1: He's not really at the end of his career, is he.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's been well, he's sort of, you know, mid thirties,

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Speaker 2: has been playing for New Zealand for well over ten

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Speaker 2: years and as a pace bowler. You know, you're probably

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Speaker 2: he's probably in the latter years, so to speak. I

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Speaker 2: hope Locke's not going to be offended by me saying that, obviously,

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Speaker 2: but you know, but look, there's still every opportunity that

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Speaker 2: Locke will play again for New Zealand. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that because you have

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Speaker 1: said in the press release that you committed to picking

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Speaker 1: Kine for the squad, but are you also committed to

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Speaker 1: picking Lockeye.

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Speaker 2: So Cain will be on a casual plaining agreement and

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Speaker 2: we've talked to him about the matches that he's available for,

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Speaker 2: so he's as it turns out, he's essentially available for

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Speaker 2: the bulk of the international cricket that we've got coming

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Speaker 2: up this season. We haven't had a specific conversation with

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Speaker 2: Lockeye about what cricket he is available for.

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 2: He just hasn't raised that with us. And to be fair,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't actually be talking about this now until the

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Speaker 2: contracts come out, but one of your fellow journalists managed

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Speaker 2: to get a scoop, so we've had to We've had

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Speaker 2: to come.

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Speaker 1: Out now, and that always explains what's going on now.

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Speaker 1: This is the future isn't it, Scott. I mean, our

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Speaker 1: best players are going to put the overseas money ahead

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Speaker 1: of the black shirt into the future, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Actually no, I think you know,

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Speaker 2: the black Caps, certainly the bulk of them still prioritize

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Speaker 2: playing for New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Can you say that they didn't even prioritize playing for

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Speaker 1: New Zealand and the T twenty World Cup the other day?

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Speaker 2: Of course they did.

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Speaker 1: They didn't they do any warm up games? Then?

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Speaker 2: Sorry I missed that.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't they do any warm up games? Then?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, there was a confluence of issues around getting

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Speaker 2: the team over there around the end of the IPL.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was that. That was nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with their commitment to playing for New Zealand. It was

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Speaker 2: just unfortunate that we couldn't actually get in the practice

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Speaker 2: practice games and before the tournament started.

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Speaker 1: Do you think, like, do we need to maybe get

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Speaker 1: the cricket bosses to do some sort of delineation between

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Speaker 1: what is you know this this part of the calendar

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Speaker 1: is for playing for your national squad and this part

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Speaker 1: of the calendar is for making your big bucks. Would

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Speaker 1: that help?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly what and that that's where I'd like

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Speaker 2: to see us to go. You know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: it's really important for the future of cricket that we

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Speaker 2: get some windows agreed which prioritize international cricket, with domestic

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Speaker 2: cricket playing around international cricket. Okay, might be the solution.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Scott, thank you very much, appreciate it. Scott when

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand Cricket CEO.

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