1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,467 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. 3 00:00:13,107 --> 00:00:17,547 Speaker 2: The White Ferns have broken the ten game losing streak 4 00:00:18,067 --> 00:00:22,067 Speaker 2: with an essential victory against India. ND. The White Ferns 5 00:00:22,067 --> 00:00:25,627 Speaker 2: have recorded a comprehensive fifty eight run win over India 6 00:00:25,627 --> 00:00:27,827 Speaker 2: in their opening match at the T twenty World Cup 7 00:00:27,867 --> 00:00:31,107 Speaker 2: in Shajah. New Zealand made one hundred and sixty for 8 00:00:31,147 --> 00:00:34,147 Speaker 2: four in their twenty overs, Sophie Devine leading the way 9 00:00:34,147 --> 00:00:37,547 Speaker 2: with an unbeaten fifty seven off thirty six deliveries. India 10 00:00:37,667 --> 00:00:41,827 Speaker 2: bowled out for one hundred and two, Rosemary Mayor taking 11 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:44,987 Speaker 2: four wickets and lea to who who three? Let's bring 12 00:00:44,987 --> 00:00:47,587 Speaker 2: in former White Ferns All Round are in sixty matches 13 00:00:47,587 --> 00:00:51,227 Speaker 2: across T twenty and One Day International formats Now commentator 14 00:00:51,267 --> 00:00:54,507 Speaker 2: and cricket analyst Frankie McKay. Frankie, thanks for joining us. 15 00:00:54,547 --> 00:00:58,827 Speaker 2: This looks really convincing. One sixty for four plays one 16 00:00:58,907 --> 00:01:01,147 Speaker 2: hundred and two all out. Did you see this coming 17 00:01:01,627 --> 00:01:04,987 Speaker 2: after ten straight defeats for the White Ferns in this format? 18 00:01:06,427 --> 00:01:09,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually will will admit that. Yeah, I had 19 00:01:10,187 --> 00:01:13,387 Speaker 3: a little inkling there that it could be a successful 20 00:01:13,427 --> 00:01:15,347 Speaker 3: game for the White Suns. I just thought with the 21 00:01:16,227 --> 00:01:18,147 Speaker 3: way that they played in Australia, I thought there were 22 00:01:18,187 --> 00:01:21,667 Speaker 3: lots of good signs in the T twenty games leading 23 00:01:21,747 --> 00:01:23,427 Speaker 3: up to this World cut. I think then the way 24 00:01:23,427 --> 00:01:25,027 Speaker 3: they went into their warm up games, I think there 25 00:01:25,027 --> 00:01:27,347 Speaker 3: were lots of positives. And I actually reckoned from from 26 00:01:27,347 --> 00:01:28,867 Speaker 3: having a look at those warm up games. I saw 27 00:01:28,907 --> 00:01:31,307 Speaker 3: the opposite in India. I think they looked a little underdone. 28 00:01:31,347 --> 00:01:33,787 Speaker 3: I think they looked a little rusty, and they've kind 29 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:35,427 Speaker 3: of come out and they've said, this is our best 30 00:01:35,467 --> 00:01:37,547 Speaker 3: T twenty team ever, We've got a sports cycle on 31 00:01:37,587 --> 00:01:39,707 Speaker 3: board now, we are so prepared to have a crack 32 00:01:39,747 --> 00:01:42,587 Speaker 3: at this and I just thought, actually, I think that 33 00:01:42,867 --> 00:01:47,067 Speaker 3: potentially they're anything but so it really felt like the 34 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:48,827 Speaker 3: New Zealand side were in a really good place to 35 00:01:48,867 --> 00:01:50,307 Speaker 3: be able to try and take them on right from 36 00:01:50,347 --> 00:01:52,427 Speaker 3: game one, and I think they did. They came out 37 00:01:52,427 --> 00:01:55,427 Speaker 3: with great intent, openers put on a really good partnership 38 00:01:55,427 --> 00:01:58,107 Speaker 3: to get things started. India looked rattled and the really 39 00:01:58,147 --> 00:02:00,187 Speaker 3: pleasing thing for me with that New Zealand side is 40 00:02:00,387 --> 00:02:02,027 Speaker 3: they just didn't take the foot off the throat. They 41 00:02:02,067 --> 00:02:04,547 Speaker 3: just did not give an inch back, so really for me, 42 00:02:04,707 --> 00:02:06,867 Speaker 3: really really pleasing signs to kick things off. 43 00:02:07,027 --> 00:02:10,227 Speaker 2: Sophie Devine was fairly bullish in the postmatch press conference, 44 00:02:10,267 --> 00:02:12,907 Speaker 2: insisting that been playing this way and not getting the 45 00:02:12,947 --> 00:02:16,987 Speaker 2: results is that valid Frankie or did something change? 46 00:02:17,667 --> 00:02:20,427 Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of validity to it. 47 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:23,147 Speaker 3: I think that the way that they have worked over 48 00:02:23,187 --> 00:02:24,827 Speaker 3: the last year or two on how they want to 49 00:02:24,827 --> 00:02:28,067 Speaker 3: play crickets, they've been really strong in their ideas on 50 00:02:28,187 --> 00:02:29,907 Speaker 3: what they want to do, and I think it's always 51 00:02:29,907 --> 00:02:32,267 Speaker 3: hard because they haven't then necessarily actually gone out and 52 00:02:32,267 --> 00:02:34,187 Speaker 3: played that well. And so I think the ideas have 53 00:02:34,267 --> 00:02:36,147 Speaker 3: been there of how they want to play and how 54 00:02:36,147 --> 00:02:37,867 Speaker 3: they want to take the game on, but they just 55 00:02:37,907 --> 00:02:40,187 Speaker 3: haven't actually been able to execute it. So I think 56 00:02:40,227 --> 00:02:42,067 Speaker 3: it takes a really strong team to be able to 57 00:02:42,507 --> 00:02:44,587 Speaker 3: cop some of the criticism and deal with some of 58 00:02:44,627 --> 00:02:47,907 Speaker 3: the outside noise around the results and how things are going, 59 00:02:47,907 --> 00:02:49,867 Speaker 3: and actually be able to kind of stick to script 60 00:02:49,947 --> 00:02:52,827 Speaker 3: and stick to that. They know that when they play well, 61 00:02:52,827 --> 00:02:54,467 Speaker 3: this is what the performance is going to look like, 62 00:02:54,547 --> 00:02:56,387 Speaker 3: and it's just trying to put those things in place. 63 00:02:56,467 --> 00:02:59,347 Speaker 3: So I think it can be a little hard at 64 00:02:59,387 --> 00:03:02,227 Speaker 3: times to justify that to the outside world. I think 65 00:03:02,267 --> 00:03:05,787 Speaker 3: it's hard when you're not winning games to keep saying, well, actually, 66 00:03:05,787 --> 00:03:07,627 Speaker 3: we're doing the right stuff, we're training really hard, we're 67 00:03:07,667 --> 00:03:10,107 Speaker 3: taking all the right boxes. We know this performance is there, 68 00:03:10,587 --> 00:03:13,107 Speaker 3: but no one now sees it quite yet. So I 69 00:03:13,147 --> 00:03:15,267 Speaker 3: think really good for them, And it's just a little 70 00:03:15,267 --> 00:03:18,027 Speaker 3: bit of self belief as well. You know, you winning 71 00:03:18,107 --> 00:03:20,867 Speaker 3: is a habit. If you continue to lose those games, 72 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:23,027 Speaker 3: that will chip away a bit of a self belief. 73 00:03:23,107 --> 00:03:24,867 Speaker 3: So the fact that they are able to get a 74 00:03:24,907 --> 00:03:27,427 Speaker 3: win and a big win to start things off, I mean, 75 00:03:27,507 --> 00:03:29,587 Speaker 3: I think they're in a really good place, and I 76 00:03:29,587 --> 00:03:31,507 Speaker 3: actually think that team knows they're in a really good 77 00:03:31,507 --> 00:03:32,067 Speaker 3: place as well. 78 00:03:32,107 --> 00:03:34,987 Speaker 2: Now, Rosemary Maya four for nineteen lea to her who 79 00:03:35,067 --> 00:03:38,387 Speaker 2: three for fifteen. A Pace Bowl is going to be 80 00:03:38,427 --> 00:03:40,467 Speaker 2: a bit more important than we thought they might be 81 00:03:40,507 --> 00:03:41,307 Speaker 2: at this World Cup. 82 00:03:42,147 --> 00:03:43,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get to see a little bit of a 83 00:03:43,347 --> 00:03:46,707 Speaker 3: difference between the two venues between Dubai and char j A. 84 00:03:47,267 --> 00:03:50,347 Speaker 3: You're going to expect that perhaps as well. Under lights 85 00:03:50,347 --> 00:03:51,947 Speaker 3: that the seamers are going to have to do a 86 00:03:51,947 --> 00:03:53,267 Speaker 3: little bit more of the work. The ball is going 87 00:03:53,267 --> 00:03:55,507 Speaker 3: to go around a little bit. And also I think 88 00:03:55,547 --> 00:03:58,747 Speaker 3: that as the tournament progresses, that's where you'll maybe see 89 00:03:58,747 --> 00:04:01,427 Speaker 3: that the spinners come into it more. They got the 90 00:04:01,467 --> 00:04:04,507 Speaker 3: tournament a little bit last minute, so maybe the preparation 91 00:04:04,627 --> 00:04:07,627 Speaker 3: and the amount of surfaces they've got to go won't 92 00:04:07,707 --> 00:04:10,547 Speaker 3: quite be as per norm And obviously it's roasting hot 93 00:04:10,547 --> 00:04:12,067 Speaker 3: over there. I think of thirty eight to thirty nine 94 00:04:12,107 --> 00:04:14,547 Speaker 3: degrees to the game. So I think the longer the 95 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:16,747 Speaker 3: tournament goes on, the more you're going to see the 96 00:04:16,787 --> 00:04:19,107 Speaker 3: spinner's come into it. And teams have definitely gone over 97 00:04:19,187 --> 00:04:23,187 Speaker 3: with plenty of spin bowling resource, but early games have 98 00:04:23,227 --> 00:04:25,107 Speaker 3: shown there's definitely a little bit early on for the 99 00:04:25,147 --> 00:04:27,507 Speaker 3: Seamas and they can put some real pressure onto. 100 00:04:28,387 --> 00:04:30,667 Speaker 2: Now only the top two in each of the five 101 00:04:30,787 --> 00:04:33,787 Speaker 2: team groups make the Semis. Three time defending champions Australia 102 00:04:33,867 --> 00:04:36,747 Speaker 2: in our groups, so this is probably a silly question, 103 00:04:36,787 --> 00:04:38,747 Speaker 2: but how big a result is this against India to 104 00:04:39,387 --> 00:04:43,187 Speaker 2: our tournament hopes of progressing through to the semi finals? 105 00:04:43,547 --> 00:04:43,707 Speaker 1: Oh? 106 00:04:43,787 --> 00:04:45,947 Speaker 3: Massive, massive. I mean you look at the way the 107 00:04:46,627 --> 00:04:49,667 Speaker 3: pools were drawn, and everyone's kind of talked about our pools, 108 00:04:49,947 --> 00:04:52,947 Speaker 3: the pool of dish a little bit and that you 109 00:04:53,107 --> 00:04:54,907 Speaker 3: had to be right on the ball right from game one. 110 00:04:54,947 --> 00:04:57,627 Speaker 3: You've got India first, you play Australia second. You run 111 00:04:57,667 --> 00:04:59,147 Speaker 3: the risk that if you don't win one of those 112 00:04:59,147 --> 00:05:01,067 Speaker 3: first two games, the next year, your tournament's all but 113 00:05:01,187 --> 00:05:03,267 Speaker 3: over and a little bit like what we saw with 114 00:05:03,307 --> 00:05:05,467 Speaker 3: the Black Cats at the recent TEA twenty World Cup. 115 00:05:05,467 --> 00:05:07,187 Speaker 3: If you're not on your game to start with, then 116 00:05:07,547 --> 00:05:09,947 Speaker 3: it's over very very quickly. So I love the way 117 00:05:10,027 --> 00:05:13,387 Speaker 3: that this White Sensed team. They've had that series against Australia, 118 00:05:13,427 --> 00:05:16,267 Speaker 3: They've had warm up games, they are fully prepared, ready 119 00:05:16,307 --> 00:05:18,027 Speaker 3: to go, and they've shown it right from game one. 120 00:05:18,147 --> 00:05:20,267 Speaker 3: The cool thing is now, if they turn up and 121 00:05:20,307 --> 00:05:23,667 Speaker 3: they beat Australia, it puts a lost next to India 122 00:05:23,747 --> 00:05:25,907 Speaker 3: or a lost next to Australia. Those two teams then 123 00:05:25,947 --> 00:05:27,707 Speaker 3: have to play each other. Only one of them is 124 00:05:27,707 --> 00:05:29,587 Speaker 3: getting out of it with a win, so that basically 125 00:05:29,627 --> 00:05:32,187 Speaker 3: will end the tournament for one of the I'd say 126 00:05:32,187 --> 00:05:34,147 Speaker 3: the two top favorites to go home with the cup. 127 00:05:34,267 --> 00:05:37,067 Speaker 3: So I don't think you can you can understate this 128 00:05:37,147 --> 00:05:40,427 Speaker 3: result at all. I think it is huge for this 129 00:05:40,547 --> 00:05:42,467 Speaker 3: New Zealand team. I think the confidence they're going to 130 00:05:42,467 --> 00:05:45,147 Speaker 3: gain from the fact that it puts you in contention. 131 00:05:45,347 --> 00:05:47,947 Speaker 3: You inter more games, you're talking semi finals, and then 132 00:05:47,947 --> 00:05:49,267 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you've only got to win two 133 00:05:49,307 --> 00:05:51,147 Speaker 3: games and cricket from there and you're going home with 134 00:05:51,227 --> 00:05:52,907 Speaker 3: a big Cup at a big fat check as well. 135 00:05:53,027 --> 00:05:55,947 Speaker 3: So I think that is it's massive. It'll put a 136 00:05:56,027 --> 00:05:58,667 Speaker 3: real dent in the confidence of India as well. They've 137 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:00,867 Speaker 3: got a lot of pressure on their shoulders. And look 138 00:06:00,907 --> 00:06:03,467 Speaker 3: the way the Australian team has played that recent series 139 00:06:03,467 --> 00:06:06,107 Speaker 3: against US, played their warm up games. They are very 140 00:06:06,147 --> 00:06:08,307 Speaker 3: big and I think every team around the world at 141 00:06:08,347 --> 00:06:10,547 Speaker 3: the moment is looking at them saying, hey, they've come 142 00:06:10,587 --> 00:06:13,187 Speaker 3: to a World Cup list with no meg learning, not 143 00:06:13,307 --> 00:06:15,507 Speaker 3: playing that well. Actually this is our time to tip 144 00:06:15,547 --> 00:06:18,067 Speaker 3: them up. And the Australian GOLs they'll feel the pressure too, 145 00:06:18,227 --> 00:06:21,867 Speaker 3: They will definitely feel the pressure of expectation being defending champs. 146 00:06:21,987 --> 00:06:25,747 Speaker 3: So for mine, I think you could not have scripted 147 00:06:25,827 --> 00:06:29,027 Speaker 3: a better win. Contributions from your top order. Seema's doing 148 00:06:29,027 --> 00:06:31,867 Speaker 3: a good job, Sinner's contributing. It just felt like one 149 00:06:31,867 --> 00:06:34,627 Speaker 3: of those performances where you know, I feel the coaching staff, 150 00:06:34,667 --> 00:06:37,147 Speaker 3: You go home and could not be happier with how 151 00:06:37,187 --> 00:06:37,747 Speaker 3: that started. 152 00:06:37,987 --> 00:06:40,427 Speaker 2: Brilliant summary, Frankie, A very good way to start for 153 00:06:40,467 --> 00:06:42,467 Speaker 2: the White Ferns. Long may this continue over the next 154 00:06:42,467 --> 00:06:44,587 Speaker 2: month or so. Thanks for taking the time for a 155 00:06:44,667 --> 00:06:45,547 Speaker 2: chat as always. 156 00:06:46,067 --> 00:06:48,427 Speaker 3: Oh no, ws Plinty always every to talk, especially when 157 00:06:48,427 --> 00:06:50,307 Speaker 3: we're winning and hopefully we get to talk about winning 158 00:06:50,307 --> 00:06:51,307 Speaker 3: a World Cup too. Yeah. 159 00:06:51,307 --> 00:06:53,427 Speaker 2: Well, let's hope, so, Frankie, let's hope. So it started 160 00:06:53,467 --> 00:06:56,827 Speaker 2: off pretty well. Frankie McKay joining us former White Ferns 161 00:06:56,867 --> 00:06:59,107 Speaker 2: All Round It and now cricket commentator. 162 00:07:00,067 --> 00:07:03,227 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine. Listen live 163 00:07:03,347 --> 00:07:07,347 Speaker 1: to News Talk ZEDB weekends from midday. Follow the podcast 164 00:07:07,387 --> 00:07:08,267 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.