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Speaker 2: Head b You're welcome today, changes coming to fishing and

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Speaker 2: into our MiG sector and what isss earning us? What

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Speaker 2: does Wanaka do now? They can't get a grimmer shake?

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Speaker 2: Ben Campbell give us as a look inside the world

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Speaker 2: of live golf. Joe McKenna and Italy. Rob Liddle has

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Speaker 2: the Skinny out of England pasking Thursday morning, seven past six.

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Speaker 2: So I, like most things in life, there's nuanced and

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Speaker 2: subtlety that's lost along the way. So David Seymour is

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Speaker 2: of a personality that undoubtedly gets up the noses of some.

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Speaker 2: He might even bother the Prime Minister periodically, But as

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Speaker 2: Landrover escapade, it's not a sackable offense. Neither is his

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Speaker 2: letter written not as a minister for polkinghorn sackable either.

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Speaker 2: And even even if you wanted to combine them and

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Speaker 2: throw in the Principal's bill because he's agitated people with it,

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Speaker 2: he is still not in sackable territory, nor indeed anywhere close.

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Speaker 2: And here is the simple truth about MMP. Why do

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Speaker 2: we still report it like f people and that they're

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Speaker 2: all in the same party. I mean, could the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister sack David Seymour from cabinet? I guess, But then

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Speaker 2: what would happen the end of the government? So is

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Speaker 2: he going to do that? No, he isn't. When companies

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Speaker 2: take over other companies, there's often a clean out of

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Speaker 2: talent when a new CEO arrives. Same thing applies the

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Speaker 2: business of running a country, though in an MMP environment

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Speaker 2: is unique. You don't merge or takeover. You coalesce. You

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Speaker 2: are individual entities who agree on a series of ideas

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Speaker 2: and a level of cooperation. It won't go perfectly, It

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Speaker 2: might not even go swimmingly, because at no stage did

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Speaker 2: you ever merge into one. You always remained. In this

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Speaker 2: case three, when Chris Hipkins calls yet again for a

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Speaker 2: sacking and surely we're bored witless with that tactic by now,

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Speaker 2: he tells us that not since the eighties and Longie

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Speaker 2: in Preble have we seen in fighting like this. He is,

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Speaker 2: of course wrong. He forgets Peters and Shipley and Peters

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Speaker 2: and Bolger and Anderton and Clarke and Copou and Shipley

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Speaker 2: in the First New Zealand, First Type five. He forgets

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Speaker 2: a vass sway of our local and recent history, and

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Speaker 2: not just that, he forgets Prebble and Longe, where in

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Speaker 2: the same party Seymour and Luxen are not in many respects.

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Speaker 2: We're lucky with this current lineup in a small country.

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Speaker 2: Coalition choice is limited in places like Spain and Germany. Recently,

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Speaker 2: when they've stretched the bounds of credibility in forming deals,

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Speaker 2: they collapsed. This deal won't collapse. The majority of the time.

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Speaker 2: There is cordiality, respect and productivity, but reportage doesn't appear

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Speaker 2: to feature those aspects. The great frustration I have with

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Speaker 2: the Hipkins approach and the coverage of this frippery is

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Speaker 2: this is a time of tremendous importance on serious matters.

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Speaker 2: This country is a mess and it's in desperate need

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Speaker 2: of addressing. The sideshow game increasingly looks from another age

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Speaker 2: and also childish. If Seymour or Peter's or Luxen gets

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Speaker 2: on the phone to the GG to dissolve arrangements, come

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Speaker 2: back to me, but stunts in a bit of personality

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Speaker 2: back and forward as a day at the office, not

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Speaker 2: a lead story and certainly not a crisis.

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Speaker 1: News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety seconds they can see the unfolding of the

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Speaker 2: end of the Ukraine War. Rare earths and territory hostages released,

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Speaker 2: and higgsith in Europe this morning with a pretty black

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Speaker 3: We want, like you, a sovereign and prosperous Ukraine, but

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Speaker 3: we must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine's pre

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen borders is an unrealistic objective.

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Speaker 2: So a NIGHTO Headquarter has been uncomfortable with that.

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Speaker 4: It's one thing to sort of accept this as a

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Speaker 4: the possession of twenty percent of Ukrainian territory. So I

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Speaker 4: think that is something that would be a red line.

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Speaker 2: I meantime, back Stateside, other matters, and Trump will firstly,

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Speaker 2: the Doge Subcommittee there in full swing.

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Speaker 5: No matter how bad the federal government fails the American people,

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Speaker 5: it still takes your money. There are no consequences for

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Speaker 5: total failure and for enslaving the American people against their will,

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Speaker 5: and the ever growing national debt.

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Speaker 2: And the paper store executive what it keeps on trending.

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Speaker 2: The President he's been looking into the well, into the

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Speaker 2: environmentals of plastic.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that plastics going to affect a shark

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what if you're into I mean,

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Speaker 6: One of our happiest days because our business completely switched

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Speaker 6: because everybody was worrying about what are you doing in

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Speaker 2: Thank you Trump, Yeah, you see you hang in there

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Speaker 2: and now it's all it's all gold and the plastic

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Speaker 2: straw business. Brita and get another of those inquiries where

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Speaker 2: they look into what went horribly wrong and conclude they

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Speaker 7: The assessment in terms of the perpetrator's vulnerabilities was problematic

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Speaker 7: and This ultimately led to questionable decision making and sub

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Speaker 2: Finally, the Las Vegas UFO experts who have been running

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Speaker 2: a series of conspiracy stories this week after spotting a

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Speaker 2: large white streak in the sky, unfortunately have had their

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Speaker 2: bubbles burst. It was the SpaceX rocket launched from California

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Speaker 2: the other day carrying the twenty three Starlink satellites into war.

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Speaker 2: But so don't you hate it? Don't you hate it

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Speaker 2: when reality collides with nuttiness as views of the world

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Speaker 2: In ninety by the way, the CPI in America came

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Speaker 2: out hot, so that freaked out the Treatory people. The

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Speaker 2: yield shot past four point six? What does all of

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Speaker 2: that mean? Andrew? Shortly twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Cavill of Quick Things Out of Trump, Will Tossy Gabbet's

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Speaker 2: just been confirmed, rfkvoats coming. Trump's just got off the

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Speaker 2: agreed to work together very closely, including visiting each other's nations.

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Speaker 2: Our respective teams start negotiations immediately on ending the war.

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Speaker 2: Are the wars coming to a rapid conclusion. Watch this space.

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Speaker 2: There was a bloke who turned up at the White

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Speaker 2: hicksth said what he said this morning deliberately the rear

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Speaker 2: of things fascinating. So this is unfolding, as they say, rapidly.

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Speaker 2: Andrew callaher good morning, very good morning. Might come for

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Speaker 2: that inflation in a moment in America Huntley. Now, isn't

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, a seeming spirit of cooperation amongst our local

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Speaker 8: generation retailers. So this was an announcement yesterday from Genesis

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Speaker 8: telling us that Genesis, Mercury, Meridian and Contact have signed

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Speaker 8: a non binding heads of agreement to investigate the potential

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Speaker 8: for Huntly Power Station and specifically what are called the

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Speaker 8: rank and units inside there to continue to play a

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Speaker 2: But it does.

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Speaker 8: Feel at this point like this is a pragmatic and

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a good story, right the CPI, the bond

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Speaker 8: inflation has lifted broadly. Cpis zero point five percent for

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Speaker 2: Quick word if you wouldn't mind on our trichometer good or.

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Speaker 8: Not, like traffic index, which suggests there's not been as

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Speaker 8: flat between they're flat, so really no moving domestic demand.

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Speaker 2: Heavy traffic jumped.

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Speaker 8: Four percent in January, up four point one percent year

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Speaker 8: in the ear So that's a better read on production.

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Speaker 2: What about concrete? Talk to me about concrete.

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Speaker 9: Well, we're not know when it was much.

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Speaker 8: December quarter of readymixed concrete, actual volume, very much concrete

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Speaker 2: Z strong brands internationally pretty good read they do Popeyes

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Speaker 2: At be Mike, Popeyes wont twenty five restaurants by the

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Speaker 12: In case you forgot, our parents' war is about to

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Speaker 14: What are you going to do about it?

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Speaker 2: June thirteen. Coca Cola, by the way, have announced this

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Speaker 2: you what, when you threaten people, it seems to work,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it. Red meat? Red meat. We're doing quite well

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Speaker 2: Presumably the McDonald's decision means no franchise restaurants can open

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Speaker 2: My understanding is McDonald's got three options. I'll just go

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Speaker 2: Good morning, very obvious question for you America Trump tariffs.

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Speaker 2: Are we in trouble or not?

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Speaker 15: Well, Look, I think it's still too early to say

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Speaker 2: Somebody suggested to me all we do with America is

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Speaker 15: We do sell a lot of beef into America for

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Speaker 15: the burgas, right, that's for sure. But increasingly the United

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Speaker 15: States has become a very important market for our high

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Speaker 2: Which is one of my arguments. Is it possible, even

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Speaker 15: Well, you know, potentially, it all depends on how consumers

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Speaker 2: The one hundred and sixteen percent up in Canada, I

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Speaker 15: Is, but Canada is an important North American market for US,

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Speaker 15: and it's great to see that. You know, our products

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Speaker 15: So I think that just kind of reflects the continued

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Speaker 2: Are those palms still whining about local versus our imported

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Speaker 15: Oh, I'm sure that they will always do that, But

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Speaker 2: What's the split? Are we doing a lot of beef

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Speaker 15: I think the split is roughly fifty to fifty between

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Speaker 2: And what's your sense of the year you bullish.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, you go well with it. We're fans Kaipiva, who

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Speaker 2: is the Meat Industry Association. Whilst speaking whis ninety minutes

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Speaker 2: and so a few questions around that. Speaking of booming,

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Speaker 2: By the way, the banks are doing well asb I'll

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Speaker 2: work you through that if you missed it yesterday. They're

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Speaker 2: like seriously profitable. And the CBA same sort of story

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Speaker 2: across the Tasman anyway, that's to come. Six forty five

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Speaker 2: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand business. The thing about the banks. Is

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Speaker 2: the government going to drag the banks back before a

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Speaker 2: silly committee as well? They want to go harder on

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Speaker 2: the business of competition and coal and wokeness and all

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Speaker 2: of that. So anyway, Italy, Joe, how are you great, Mike?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well. Indeed, this mafia bust? How big was this?

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Speaker 2: And what brings this stuff about? I mean that size

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Speaker 2: of what I've been watching in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Who drives that?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 17: It seems that the police have been monitoring the activities

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Speaker 17: of mafiosi inside prison and also on the streets of

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Speaker 17: Palermo over the last two years, and then it reaches

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Speaker 17: this point where there's enough evidence for the officers to

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Speaker 17: conduct raids. So we had twelve hundred officers yesterday on

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Speaker 17: the streets. Thirty six of the charged guys involved are

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Speaker 17: actually in custody, and that makes it kind of interesting.

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Speaker 17: I think that they're running their operations from prison.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And so what happens now there's a nine year

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Speaker 2: trial and maybe they get put back in prison.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Well, a lot of debate about some of who've been

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Speaker 17: let out of prison a little early. But what's interesting

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Speaker 17: is that the bosses are of course using modern technology

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Speaker 17: to conduct their business, using encrypted cell phones from their

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Speaker 17: jail cells, and interestingly, Mike, some of them have nicknames

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Speaker 17: like Robert de Niro and spider Man, which make it

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Speaker 17: even more difficult for the cops to track them down.

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Speaker 2: Good on them for coming up with something original. So

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Speaker 2: now Maloney and business, how where are we at economically

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Speaker 2: in Italy at the moment? Is it a miss or not?

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Speaker 17: I think it's a mess, Georgia Maloney. The Prime Minister's

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Speaker 17: trying to talk up the economy, but it's very weak.

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Speaker 17: Industrial output much weaker than expected in December, falling three percent.

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Speaker 17: There have been revisions of the GDP last year and

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Speaker 17: the artlook for this year is probably going to be

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Speaker 17: less than one percent growth. So I think there's a

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Speaker 17: lot of nervousness, particularly about the US and the possibility

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Speaker 17: of those tariffs, and figures are showing that thousands of

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Speaker 17: business businesses have disappeared in the last few years here.

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Speaker 2: So what happens While you mentioned the tariffs, how nervous

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Speaker 2: is Europe and Italy specifically about the tariffs? Is Maloney

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Speaker 2: seen as some sort of buffer with Trump, because presumably

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Speaker 2: they could know Coalist together. Ideologically, I think the jury

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Speaker 2: is still out.

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Speaker 17: There was a lot of support for her visit to

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Speaker 17: mar Lago way back when before the election, and then

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Speaker 17: she of course attended the inaugurtion, and I think now

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Speaker 17: there's a lot of nervousness. People are just waiting to

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Speaker 17: see what's going to happen, and there is a great

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Speaker 17: deal of concern because I think the total of exports

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Speaker 17: from Italy is around sixty billion euros.

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Speaker 11: To the US.

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Speaker 2: It's big buck assisted suicide Tuscany. How does this work

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Speaker 2: in Italy? Do you do it locally, regionally nationally? How

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Speaker 2: does it work?

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Speaker 17: Yes, it is a regional decision and I think it's

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Speaker 17: shaken up the Catholic Church in Italy because they weren't

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Speaker 17: quite ready for this. This is a regional law passed

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Speaker 17: in Tuscany, which is of course dominated by the center left.

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Speaker 17: At the national level, the Prime Minister Georgia Maloney, the

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Speaker 17: rightist coalition, her government is still broadly against euthanasia, so

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Speaker 17: that makes it an interesting play when you look at

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Speaker 17: the situation nationally.

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Speaker 2: So what's going to happen? If you want to end

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Speaker 2: your life, you'll go to or move to Tuscany if

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Speaker 2: you don't live there.

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Speaker 17: It sounds like that's how it can operate. It allows

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Speaker 17: requests to be handled by local health authorities, and that

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Speaker 17: would have to go through a medical panel considering applications,

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Speaker 17: and then the local health authorities would provide the necessary

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Speaker 17: medication and healthcare personnel. I still find it hard to

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Speaker 17: see that people will be able to move there from

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Speaker 17: other parts of visually, but let's wait and see.

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Speaker 9: OK.

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Speaker 2: Good to catch up Joe sex Day, who is in

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Speaker 2: Italy for us this morning? Just Maloney, Trump, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Last night, it was late yesterday afternoon, ten thirty at

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Speaker 2: night in Washington. Go called Mark Fogel. If you missed it,

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Speaker 2: have a look at it. There's another one coming today.

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Speaker 2: Fogel got grabbed three and a half years ago in

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Speaker 2: Russia for some medical marijuana, and Griner was the famous case.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Fogel should have been gotten out, as Trump

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Speaker 2: pointed out yesterday, but he wasn't because Biden was asleep

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Speaker 2: of the wheel. First thing you noted yesterday, Trump was

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Speaker 2: still working at ten thirty at night. I mean, his

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Speaker 2: work ethic is unmatched in terms of presidential rigor. The

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Speaker 2: concept of Biden wandering out at ten thirty at night,

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Speaker 2: is you know it's farcical. Anyway, this guy Fogel got

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Speaker 2: taken out of Russia yesterday. Flowing back to the White House,

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Speaker 2: he turns up. So a couple of really interesting things putin.

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Speaker 2: Let these guys go, and as I say, there's another

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Speaker 2: one coming today for nothing. Now that doesn't happen. So

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Speaker 2: why did he let the people go for nothing? Well

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for nothing, of course, And this is the

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Speaker 2: phone call the hour and a half to day hicks

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Speaker 2: Seth said what he said today for a specific reason.

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Speaker 2: So how this thing's going to unfold us? As follows,

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Speaker 2: the Americans are going to get rare earths, They're going

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Speaker 2: to get guarantees of rare earths and territory out of

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Speaker 2: Ukraine in return for security guarantees. Russia's going to get

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Speaker 2: some land. Zelenzi's going to hate that. He's not going

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Speaker 2: to get into NATO either. So the ultimate loser he

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Speaker 2: is going to be Zelenski, but he's going to have

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Speaker 2: to suck it up. How NATO handles this I don't

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Speaker 2: know yet. But nevertheless, this guy Fogel turns up at

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Speaker 2: the White House. Fascinating to watch. He's either drugged up

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Speaker 2: or drunk, or he's unusual. But to have a look

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Speaker 2: at the video, you'll see what I mean. They ask him,

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Speaker 2: obviously what it was like in Russia. He goes, I

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Speaker 2: need some time to reflect on that before I answer. Now,

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Speaker 2: that's an answer that was given to him. It was planted,

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Speaker 2: and they said, don't say a word. What he did

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Speaker 2: say before he said that was I spent one hundred

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Speaker 2: of my three hundred days in hospital and they injected

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Speaker 2: me four hundred times. Now, surely the point, if you're

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Speaker 2: a reporter of any note, salt, or you're worth at all,

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Speaker 2: is what were they injecting you worth, mister Fogel. Nobody

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Speaker 2: asked that question anyway. He was then shuffled off to

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Speaker 2: the Lincoln bedroom but to watch Trump at ten thirty

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Speaker 2: at night. Having sprung this guy in a two and

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Speaker 2: a half week period, after his ninety five year old

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Speaker 2: mother went up to him in butler the day got shot,

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Speaker 2: went up to him in butler and said, can you

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Speaker 2: help me get my son out of Russia? And Trump said,

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Speaker 2: watch me, we'll do it. And two and a half

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Speaker 2: years later, when the guy had been there for three

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Speaker 2: and a half years and Biden had done nothing. That

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Speaker 2: is presidential power that will serve you well.

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Speaker 1: Eight to seven the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Alvida, Retirement,

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Speaker 1: Communities News togs, tad.

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Speaker 2: Be just developing so and Americans among three three new

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Speaker 2: hostages out of Belarus just announced. And also just announced

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Speaker 2: that Trump has been not only in the phone to

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Speaker 2: put In for an hour and a half, he's just

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Speaker 2: been an hour on the phone to Zelensky. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the U were so it wasn't not quit pro quo.

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Speaker 2: The US has just released a Russian prison, a guy

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Speaker 2: called Vinnick who was nabbed back in seventeen in Greece

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Speaker 2: on crypto fraud charges. Anyway, they've swapped him for Fogel

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: For the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business favor take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Started from seek on jobs. They're looking at jobs with

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Speaker 2: the highest demand from the last year based on year

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Speaker 2: by year job ad growth. What's hot GPS, They're hot.

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Speaker 2: Everyone wants a GP, No one can find a GP.

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Speaker 2: Highest increase in the number of job ads for GPS

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Speaker 2: up forty six percent on the year. It's not bad

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Speaker 2: dough either. Average GPS two hundred and five thousand technologists

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Speaker 2: they do the MRIs, that sort of stuff. Job ads

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Speaker 2: were up forty three percent. Auditors with an accounting up

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Speaker 2: forty two percent as of last week. There was concerned

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Speaker 2: they were the group that were heading to Australia for

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Speaker 2: better pay. But the average calory here if you're in

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Speaker 2: auditor eighty four in Australia's ninety five, So a bit

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Speaker 2: of a difference, but it's hardly I mean, if you've

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Speaker 2: seen the price of a house in Sydney, average price

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Speaker 2: in house Sydney now is one point seven million. Even

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Speaker 2: in a place like Auckland or Central Intargo, you're talking

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Speaker 2: about a million buck. So I mean, yeah, yes, you

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Speaker 2: get another team grand, but you've got to buy one

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Speaker 2: point seven million dollars worth of house banking analysts and

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Speaker 2: practice managers at healthcare facilities they're in the top five.

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Speaker 2: Senior associates and legal twenty five percent increase in job ads.

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Speaker 2: Youre one hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars if you

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Speaker 2: one of those sales people. Real estate and property up

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Speaker 2: to thirty percent. The ads ninety five grand a year

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Speaker 2: as your average sales. What about a brand manager? You

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Speaker 2: want to be a brand manager in marketing and communications?

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Speaker 2: Philly broad sort of thing at a cocktail party, isn't

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Speaker 2: What do you do on brand manager? Are you?

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Speaker 11: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Adds up fifteen percent year and one hundred and six

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars data engineer in the tech sector fourteen percent

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Speaker 2: increase in ADS one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Now fishing if you want to be a fisherman, got

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Speaker 2: cameras on your boats? Anyway? That was a Stuart Nash thing,

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Speaker 2: I think, But Shane Jones, he's over all of that.

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Speaker 2: So he's shaking up the fishing industry. We look like

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Speaker 2: we might be shaking up the media industry. Sort of

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Speaker 2: side live golf Later we'll talk with Ben Campbell. Uses next.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to stug your day the

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Speaker 1: my Casting Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed to

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Speaker 1: intrigue and use togs dead b.

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Speaker 2: On seven past seven of the fisheries industry getting a

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Speaker 2: shake up. We're at the feedback stage on everything from

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Speaker 2: catch limits to onboard camera transparency. Shane Jones, of course

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Speaker 2: driving this even very vocal about the unnecessary regulations which

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Speaker 2: impede productivity and potential. Sea Lord CEO Doug Pauland's with us. Doug, Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: You're getting basically what you want. Do you think well?

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Speaker 19: I think it's a good start to the changes the

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Speaker 19: industry have been requesting for a reasonable period of time,

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Speaker 19: and what we've seen as an acknowledgment of fishing is

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Speaker 19: in a much different place, particularly over the last five years,

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Speaker 19: as technology has increased significantly, and now that we've got

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Speaker 19: digital reporting, we've got vessel locators going into MPI daily,

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Speaker 19: and we've seen the introduction of cameras to many of

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Speaker 19: the fishing vessels. It's become a very striking call to

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Speaker 19: say the regulations are no longer fit for purpose. So

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Speaker 19: I think it's been it's a very good.

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Speaker 2: Start seven and a half million. Your company pays the

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Primary Industries. What do you get for that?

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Speaker 19: We get a lot of oversight, we get compliance, We

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Speaker 19: pay for our own policing by the Ministry of Fisheries

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Speaker 19: and Ministry of Primary Industries. We get science for that,

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Speaker 19: which is great. We do also pay towards the Department

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Speaker 19: of Conservation, which is great to see. Sometimes we don't

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Speaker 19: get a lot important to where that money goes. So

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Speaker 19: that's something we're looking for change moving forward. So look,

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Speaker 19: I think there's room for that number to come down personally,

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Speaker 19: because what's happened is the number has gone up and

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Speaker 19: up and up to the point it's very difficult to

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Speaker 19: make returns out of fishing.

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Speaker 2: I noticed I was looking at Jones and TikTok and

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Speaker 2: cameras and stuff like that. How much of this reformers

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Speaker 2: about cameras on board and TikTok and going to the

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Speaker 2: court and how much there's there's METEA stuff. There is

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Speaker 2: the cameras the headline stuff or is that a major

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Speaker 2: not really?

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Speaker 19: Look, I think the cameras are a bit of a

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Speaker 19: distraction in reality, the camera and look, Shane's acknowledged that

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Speaker 19: his personal view is different to what's been decided by cabinet.

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Speaker 19: It's different to what even some industry players believe. And look,

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Speaker 19: they're here to stay. What we're seeing now is we're

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Speaker 19: seeing the acknowledgment that it's not right for the public

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Speaker 19: to say, well, we want the right to look at

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Speaker 19: people in their workplaces. It's like saying, when I go

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Speaker 19: to an office every day, if there was a camera

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Speaker 19: behind me watching me on my computer, and then any

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Speaker 19: man and his dog could request that footage and see

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Speaker 19: what I'm doing. I don't think generally if the public

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Speaker 19: understood that's what's happening, they'd be very happy. I like

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Speaker 19: to read it and see everything they want.

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Speaker 2: Sure correct me if I'm wrong. I liking you guys

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Speaker 2: to farmers. You don't get up in the morning, and

678
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Speaker 2: this is catch limits and all that stuff. You guys

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Speaker 2: don't get up in the morning to ruin your business,

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Speaker 2: do you. Therefore, of course not exactly. But so what

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Speaker 2: we've had is a system whereby we think you are

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Speaker 2: all criminals and we'll need to monitor you and keep

683
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Speaker 2: you in line and all of that stuff. And all

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Speaker 2: that's happening here is a bit of ideological change and

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Speaker 2: you can get on with life and get on with business.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, Doug, appreciate it very much,

687
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Speaker 2: Doug Paulan, who is the Sea Lord CEO. Ten minutes

688
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Speaker 2: past seven, also in the old feedback camp, has nine

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Speaker 2: you from the Broadcasting Minister who has some thoughts around

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Speaker 2: the screen and television sector. A New Zealand on air

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Speaker 2: and the film Commission get merged. The big stream is

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Speaker 2: like Netflix have more. Well, they've got to support more

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Speaker 2: allegedly local content South Pacific Pictures MD Andrew Shusteman's with

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Speaker 2: us Andrew Morning to you Morning, Marke can't I I'm

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Speaker 2: very well, thank you. An observation about Paul Goldsmith. He

696
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Speaker 2: seems disinterested in the portfolio. Am I being unfair?

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Speaker 14: I'm surprised about how interests of it is. I actually

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Speaker 14: think that the recommendations that came out at mcchsay are

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Speaker 14: pretty on the money.

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Speaker 2: Good, So that's encouraging. So I've been wrong in that.

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Speaker 2: It's just I'm going back to this business of the

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Speaker 2: news Google paying for stuff, and they just don't seem

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Speaker 2: to have an urgency about them. You see something different.

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Speaker 14: Look, here's the idea. It's difficult. You know, the Digital

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Speaker 14: Bargaining Act is a whole different kettle of fish. There

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Speaker 14: are similarities, but what we're talking about as a broadcasting

707
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Speaker 14: Act that was put in place in nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 14: a year that TV three was creating, the year before SkyTV,

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Speaker 14: in two years after you guys become news talk. So

710
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Speaker 14: it's a long time ago and the world has fundamentally changed.

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Speaker 14: There's been very limited touches to that. But what we

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Speaker 14: now have is that obviously along with ad revenues, we

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Speaker 14: have audiences are migrating to just streaming platforms with great

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Speaker 14: content and local content. Players are getting lisped out of

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Speaker 14: the play There is nothing unusual from a global play

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Speaker 14: There are countries all over the world that are now

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Speaker 14: looking at how to implement the streamers within their portfolios

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Speaker 14: within their countries. So it's a good move. And what

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Speaker 14: I really loved about the mcach paper is so much

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Speaker 14: was that it's on the money. They've consulted the industry

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Speaker 14: and the things that the recommendations or the proposals that

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Speaker 14: they're questioning for submissions are pretty good.

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Speaker 2: But consultation is not action. When you go to Netflix

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Speaker 2: and they go get low steer at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the world, we've got bigger fish to fry than one.

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Speaker 14: Well, I'm sure this isn't the first dance they've had

727
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Speaker 14: around this globally bike in fact, so they'll have a

728
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Speaker 14: playbook that they'll play to. But you know, I think

729
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Speaker 14: the catch all situation, obviously there's trade agreements that negate

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Speaker 14: the ability for just activity on the streamers. What we

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Speaker 14: do have to realize in New Zealand Broadcast is that

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Speaker 14: although there are you know, the charter of the tvm

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Speaker 14: Z was thrown out in twenty twelve, there are actually

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Speaker 14: no regulations around quotas or the amount of content local

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Speaker 14: content played on any of the players. What this does

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Speaker 14: is effective who proposed as a catch all, It'll catch

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Speaker 14: every player in market and go, look, there's going to

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Speaker 14: have to be a content requirement where you know, the

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Speaker 14: options are varied. There is people that talk about levies,

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Speaker 14: but the requirements they're talking about is a percentage of

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Speaker 14: gross revenue that would then be spent on local content.

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Speaker 2: So win one insummation. We're moving at last, and we're

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Speaker 2: in the right direction.

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Speaker 14: I think.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 14: Look, honestly, I'm surprised and happily surprised. We've been looking

747
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Speaker 14: for this for quite some time, Rumors ruminating out of Wellington.

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Speaker 14: This is going to be coming and from an industry

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Speaker 14: professional point of view you read this, and from a

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Speaker 14: local production point of view, from a prominent point of

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Speaker 14: view from the broadcast of being on remotes and having

752
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Speaker 14: apps on TVs, these guys have actually done a really

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Speaker 14: good job and implaued its to the Minister mcch for

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Speaker 14: finally acknowledging what government's successive governments of both types have

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Speaker 14: been kicking can down the road since the mid nineties.

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Speaker 2: Well done, Andrew appreciated very much. Andrew's system in South

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Speaker 2: Pacific pictures. What did I call them? Managing director? That'll

758
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Speaker 2: live Managing director thirteen minutes past seven, asking of things

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Speaker 2: that are coming. Nicola Willis is going to be in

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Speaker 2: an event tomorrow. The Economic Forum might be today, I

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Speaker 2: can't remember that. It's the two day thing starts today,

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Speaker 2: goes tomorrow. Anyway, she's going to use that speech to

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Speaker 2: lay the groundwork for what they're calling the third major

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Speaker 2: player in the supermarket. So they're going to blow that

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Speaker 2: up as well. They're going to look at overseas investment.

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Speaker 2: They're going to look at the Resource Management Act. They're

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Speaker 2: going to look at the local government regulations, which is

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Speaker 2: ironic given what happened to McDonald's and Wanacke yesterday. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, what to talk about local regulations getting in

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Speaker 2: the way any other red table regulatory hurdles to prevent

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Speaker 2: a third player coming into the supermarket area. The other

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Speaker 2: person the reason I mentioned that has one that significant

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Speaker 2: good honor, and if she actually does something fantastic. The

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Speaker 2: other reason I mentioned that is the keynote speaker of

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Speaker 2: this whole thing is Scott Morrison, who ran a country

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Speaker 2: for a while. He's on the program tomorrow morning, fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: B Mike, why aren't we tariffing Google, Apple, Netflix and

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Speaker 2: the like? Very good question. I'll come back with an

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Speaker 2: answer in the moment seventeen past seven. It's gone badly wrong.

782
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Speaker 2: Of course for Macas and Wanaka in war Necka, after

783
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Speaker 2: far too much time and energy and money on arguing

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Speaker 2: about Hamburgers and Mount Iron, their application to open locally

785
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Speaker 2: was turned down, of course, WONNICA Business Chamber Board Chaire

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Speaker 2: Joe Liameth is with us Jovery. Good morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. Did the chamber submit.

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Speaker 16: I no, we did not. It's not air role to

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Speaker 16: do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not Health New Zealand's role either, But they

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Speaker 2: submit that. Every manner's dogs omitted. What to forget the result?

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Speaker 2: But what are shambles of a process? Do we really

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Speaker 2: have that much time managing money and energy to get

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Speaker 2: to do this sort of stuff?

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Speaker 16: I don't think it's the shambles of a process. All

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Speaker 16: resource consent processes are the similarity to open up for

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Speaker 16: public submissions or not, depending on the details of the consent.

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Speaker 16: So it's not a shambala. It's obviously just bought a

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Speaker 16: bit more of a tension than probably a normal resource

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Speaker 16: concent ediplication.

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Speaker 2: What's the vibe in the town? Pollwise, have you ran

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Speaker 2: a pole is as popular or not?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 16: We obviously represent the business community, so not necessarily a

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Speaker 16: vibe or the town, but the business community. If we're

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Speaker 16: about three hundred members, So we ran a survey to

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Speaker 16: be able to understand I guess the sentiment of AIR

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Speaker 16: members regarding the topic, given that it's a generated a

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Speaker 16: reasonable amount of significant local discussion, not to.

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Speaker 2: Mention national discussion. What was the result of your survey?

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Speaker 16: So I guess the sentiment is that probably like ED membership,

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Speaker 16: which is reasonably diverse and presents a range of perspectives

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Speaker 16: on the development, the sentiment of the survey is it

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Speaker 16: pretty much the same. It's quite diverse. There are definitely

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Speaker 16: those who want it, and there's differently those who don't,

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Speaker 16: but most of them have indicated that it would They

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Speaker 16: don't see it that it would impact their business or

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Speaker 16: the business economy in Warnaka.

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Speaker 2: Is it fair to suggest it's not McDonald's. It's the

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Speaker 2: Mount Iron country rural town thing, right, So if they

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Speaker 2: pack themselves somewhere else, they might have got away with it.

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Speaker 16: I think that that is definitely the basis of the

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Speaker 16: resource content for the decline of the application. So there's

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Speaker 16: the basis of that. Whether or not if they applied

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Speaker 16: somewhere else, whether the town would have responded differently, as

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Speaker 16: I guess, it's unknown, but it's certainly a significant contributor

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Speaker 16: to the to the opinion of the community.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had a groomer's shake?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 2: Well, well that's what they sell apparently it's a purple

831
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Speaker 2: shake at the moment. I've just looked it up the

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Speaker 2: other day, but I've met no one who's had one. Joe,

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Speaker 2: nice to talk to you, appreciate it. Joe Lamouth, who's

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Speaker 2: the what's that?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: What's that? Wanaka Business Chamber board chair? As I mentioned

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Speaker 2: earlier on, they've got option to an Option three which

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Speaker 2: doesn't involve Mount Iron Apparently. Why aren't we terriffing Google? Apple, Netflix?

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Speaker 2: It's a fair question, but it's been answered. The reason

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Speaker 2: is because the moment you do it, they go, if

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Speaker 2: you do that, we'll leave the country. They tried it

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Speaker 2: in Canada, they're trying it in Australia. There's some hope

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Speaker 2: it might work in Australia. Probably won't. They certainly didn't

844
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Speaker 2: work in Canada because they're bigger than you are. And

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Speaker 2: when you're a little country at the bottom of the world,

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Speaker 2: to wander up to Netflix or Google and say, by

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Speaker 2: the way, give us some money, they'll go get lost.

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Speaker 2: And that's why no one's done it.

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Speaker 2: investment options to help you get great returns on your savings.

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869
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Speaker 2: with heart Paski Britty three. In a country that has

870
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Speaker 2: some really big problems, watching councils battle central government over

871
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: fluoride defies belief. Firstly, councils can't have the old cake

872
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: and eat it candy, I mean, think about it. Council

873
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Speaker 2: spent an inordinate amount of time asking government for help,

874
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Speaker 2: endless amounts of money and arguments over things they shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be doing, and then having done that, they fight with

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Speaker 2: central government over how they suddenly need more power. Then

877
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Speaker 2: the participation rate. Few people vote in local elections. I

878
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: think we'll find that out this year. So we want

879
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 2: to have non experts telling us what to ingest having

880
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: been put there by a handful of people who can

881
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Speaker 2: be bothered to vote in the first place. I mean,

882
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: why have experts on anything? Why don't councilors open up

883
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: GP clinics and tell us what's wrong with us? They

884
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: can do our taxes. We'll save a fortune on accountants.

885
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: They can build our extensions. I mean, because surely if

886
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Speaker 2: you know about fluoride, you can swing a hammer. There

887
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: aren't many towns and cities, of course, in this country

888
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: that aren't grappling with the basics rubbish roads services the

889
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Speaker 2: cost of them. There are not many towns and cities

890
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Speaker 2: in this country that aren't in the fight over the

891
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Speaker 2: year increasing cost councils and pose upon us. There are

892
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Speaker 2: a growing number of towns and cities that are clearly

893
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: run by councils wildly out of their depth. We broadly

894
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: are not well governed. And whether that is because the

895
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Speaker 2: people who run them aunt up to much, or we

896
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Speaker 2: aren't interested or a bit are both as a very

897
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: good debate. But at no point is any council anywhere

898
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Speaker 2: in a position to dispense health advice. Do they want

899
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Speaker 2: powers to ban sugar and prescribe exercise as well? Health

900
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Speaker 2: is not a democratic exercise anything. Even if they went

901
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: to the locals, the locals are no more medically equipped

902
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Speaker 2: than they are to know or tell us what the

903
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Speaker 2: benefits are. Otherwise of any ingested medical ingredient may or

904
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Speaker 2: may not be fluoride. And it's like, is not a

905
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Speaker 2: popularity contest. It is why we have experts. And although

906
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Speaker 2: experts at times can be found wanting, by and large

907
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Speaker 2: they are more knowledgeable than we are. Hence we rely

908
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Speaker 2: on them. Hence they're called experts, not counselors. Asking is

909
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Speaker 2: miss Levitt in the White House?

910
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Speaker 20: A president just recently got off the phone with President

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Speaker 20: Zelensky of Ukraine. His truth is as follows. I just

912
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 20: spoke to President Zelensky of Ukraine. The conversation went very well. He,

913
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Speaker 20: like President Puhin, wants to make peace. We discussed a

914
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Speaker 20: variety of topics having to do with the war, but

915
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Speaker 20: mostly the meeting that is being set up on Friday

916
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Speaker 20: and Munich, where Vice President JD. Vance and Secretary of

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Speaker 20: Secretary of State Marco Rubio will lead the delegation. I

918
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Speaker 20: am hopeful that the results of that meeting will be positive.

919
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Speaker 20: It is time to stop this ridiculous war where there

920
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Speaker 20: has been massive and totally unnecessary death and destruction. God

921
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Speaker 20: bless the people of Russia and Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: His truth is as follows, is that the new circle back.

923
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Speaker 2: Mike Wilson regarding Trump and the release of Mark Fogel.

924
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Speaker 2: Whether you love Trump or hate him, he gets things

925
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Speaker 2: done and he's true to his pre election promises, something

926
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Speaker 2: pretty rare in politics. So I'll tell you what if

927
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Speaker 2: he does nothing else. He looked moved. I mean Trump,

928
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Speaker 2: I've never seen Trump genuinely moved. He looked genuinely moved

929
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Speaker 2: last night when that guy arrived at the White House.

930
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Speaker 2: He looked like they all knew in the room that

931
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Speaker 2: they had done something significant. And it's one of those

932
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Speaker 2: moments that as a president that's uniquely presidential. It's not

933
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Speaker 2: about Congress, it's not about Senate, it's not about numbers,

934
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Speaker 2: it's not about bargaining. It's just straight up and down

935
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Speaker 2: presidential power and big time diplomacy to basically save somebody's

936
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Speaker 2: life because you made the promise to his ninety five

937
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Speaker 2: year old mother at a rally moments before you got

938
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Speaker 2: shot in the election campaign, and you delivered on it

939
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Speaker 2: within two and a half weeks. You've got to feel

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Speaker 2: pretty good about that. Privacy Commission has got some concerns.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any specific thing here. I'm

942
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Speaker 2: going to ask him about that because I reader his

943
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Speaker 2: press release. He seems concerned about the rights of people

944
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Speaker 2: and renters and landlords and what they can and can't do,

945
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Speaker 2: but he doesn't provide any actual specific So we'll talk

946
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Speaker 2: to Michael Webster about that directly after the News, which

947
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Speaker 2: is next on the mic Hosking Breakfast here a News talks.

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Speaker 12: He'd be.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the buyers others can't

951
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Speaker 1: use togs headb.

952
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Speaker 2: He should point out that ap it was announced yesterday

953
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Speaker 2: as and the Associated Press has been blocked from the

954
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Speaker 2: Oval Office because they insist on calling it the Golf

955
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Speaker 2: of Mexico and inside the Oval Office it is no

956
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Speaker 2: longer the Golf of Mexico and Google have confirmed this.

957
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Speaker 2: For American News is of course googled saying that it

958
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Speaker 2: is the Gulf of America and until the IP call

959
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Speaker 2: it the Gulf of America, they're not allowed back into

960
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Speaker 2: the Oval Office. Rumble has been allowed into the Oval Office.

961
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Speaker 2: They've been asking some random questions, but Caroline is continuing.

962
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Speaker 2: They were asked about this business of the courts and

963
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Speaker 2: the design generally, and the courts are stopping them from

964
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Speaker 2: firing a whole lot of local workers.

965
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Speaker 20: Many outlets in this room have been fear mongering the

966
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Speaker 20: American people into believing there is a constitutional crisis taking

967
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Speaker 20: place here at the White House. I've been hearing those

968
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Speaker 20: words a lot lately. But in fact, the real constitutional

969
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 20: crisis is taking place within our judicial branch, where district

970
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Speaker 20: court judges and liberal districts across the country are abusing

971
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Speaker 20: their power to unilaterally block President Trump's basic executive authority.

972
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Speaker 20: We believe these judges are acting as judicial activists rather

973
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Speaker 20: than honest arbiters of the law. Quick newsflash to these

974
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Speaker 20: liberal judges who are supporting their obstructionist efforts. Seventy seven

975
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Speaker 20: million Americans voted to elect this president, and each injunction

976
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Speaker 20: is an abuse of the rule of law and an

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Speaker 20: attempt to thwart the will of the people.

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Speaker 2: Ben Campbell is living the dream at the moment. He

979
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Speaker 2: was on the Asian tour still as a little bit,

980
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Speaker 2: but he's out of Coinstown, of course, But Ben Campbell

981
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Speaker 2: was filling in on the LIB tour last year and

982
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Speaker 2: has been picked full time this year. Came fifteenth the

983
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Speaker 2: other day and lives about money apart from anything else.

984
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Speaker 2: Came fifteenth, collected half a million bucks just like that.

985
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Speaker 2: He's an adelaide this weekend as the LIB Show comes

986
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Speaker 2: to Australia, so we catch up with him after eight

987
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Speaker 2: o'clock and give you an inside feel for what Livers doing.

988
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Speaker 2: Twenty ten minutes away from Privacy Commissioner got some advice

989
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Speaker 2: for landlords. Concerns have been raised around tenants, especially students,

990
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Speaker 2: being asked for personal information that hasn't legally required. The

991
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Speaker 2: Privacy Commissioner as Michael Webster, who's with us, Michael, morning

992
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Speaker 2: to you, good Mike. We're dealing with at the vulnerable

993
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Speaker 2: end of the market, people like students, people in a

994
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Speaker 2: rush and a hurry, things like that.

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Speaker 21: Right, that's right. And we know that most landlords and

996
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Speaker 21: most tenants decent people and just want to do the

997
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Speaker 21: right thing to develop a good relationship. They both want

998
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Speaker 21: something from the other. But we do know that while

999
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Speaker 21: the majority of vandals care about tenants privacy, there can

1000
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Speaker 21: be a lot of factors to weigh up when you're

1001
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Speaker 21: considering what can be an avalanche of applications coming in,

1002
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Speaker 21: and it can be tempting for landlords to over collect

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Speaker 21: personal information, to ask too much from applications from tenants

1004
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Speaker 21: potential tenants.

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Speaker 2: So what are the practical outworkings? Though? If you're full

1006
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Speaker 2: of you young go I know my rights and I

1007
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Speaker 2: you can't ask me that, then guess what? You're not

1008
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Speaker 2: going to get the flat? Are you rightly your role there?

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Speaker 2: That's your outworking.

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Speaker 21: So I guess there's a couple of things there. First

1011
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Speaker 21: is that there are particular sets of information that landlords

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Speaker 21: can ask for and tends need to understand that as well.

1013
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Speaker 21: At each stage of the tendency. If you're looking at

1014
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Speaker 21: a property, landlords often collect name and contact details, So

1015
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Speaker 21: if you're applying for the property, lands might ask for

1016
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Speaker 21: things like proof of identity, questions about pet ownership, smoking,

1017
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Speaker 21: that sort of thing. If you're shortlisted or offered the tendency,

1018
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Speaker 21: the landlord can then ask for information to carry out

1019
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Speaker 21: credit or criminal record checks and evidence of ability to

1020
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Speaker 21: pay the rent. It's just asking for the right information

1021
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Speaker 21: at the right stage.

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Speaker 2: Is it better, generally in your experience that a rental agent.

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Speaker 2: They behave themselves because they're part of an industry as

1024
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Speaker 2: opposed to just an individual landlord who may or may

1025
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Speaker 2: not know what they're doing.

1026
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Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, what

1027
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Speaker 21: we're wanting here is good privacy equaling good business. Get

1028
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Speaker 21: the relationships right with the possible tenants from the very beginning,

1029
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Speaker 21: and hopefully you'll have a long term relationship where your

1030
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Speaker 21: property is cared for and you get the income coming

1031
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Speaker 21: in that you want.

1032
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Speaker 2: Having said that, is this actually a problem because I

1033
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Speaker 2: read your press release in the early hours of this morning,

1034
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Speaker 2: there's not a single example given. It's just to generalize.

1035
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Speaker 2: I woke up and here's a problem we might or

1036
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Speaker 2: might not have. Is it an issue?

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Speaker 22: We have had some in the past.

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Speaker 21: So what we've done here is simply update our guidance

1039
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Speaker 21: because we are heading into a time of peak rental

1040
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Speaker 21: season activity. With their problems in the past with landlords

1041
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Speaker 21: setting up, say, blacklists of tenants and including information on

1042
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Speaker 21: those blacklists that they shouldn't include. That might be inaccurate,

1043
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Speaker 21: it might be wrong, It might be in breach of

1044
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Speaker 21: other pieces of legislation, even suppression orders.

1045
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Speaker 2: What happens when tenants leave your property and the garage

1046
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Speaker 2: remotes missing. Who pays for that?

1047
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Speaker 22: So at the end of the day, as rental agreements,

1048
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Speaker 22: at the end of the day, there are the bond

1049
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Speaker 22: arrangements that are looked after in a much better way

1050
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Speaker 22: now than they used to be.

1051
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Speaker 21: And I think your station reported the other day might

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Speaker 21: for example, some tenants were using a house as a

1053
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Speaker 21: mess lab right and at the end of the day

1054
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Speaker 21: they are the owners of that house. Took those people

1055
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Speaker 21: through the tendency tribunal and got substantial damages. So there

1056
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Speaker 21: are processors to protect landlords property through that their bond

1057
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Speaker 21: process through the tendency tribunal.

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Speaker 2: Good only Michel appreciate it very much. Michael Webster, Privacy commissioner,

1059
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Speaker 2: Just Plessing Garrison mights that's all may or may not

1060
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Speaker 2: have something to do with me. Eighteen minutes away from

1061
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Speaker 2: ape pasking Mike, it's interesting the power companies put out

1062
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Speaker 2: a statement now while the prices are holding up higher. Again,

1063
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Speaker 2: let me come back to that's very good point. It's

1064
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Speaker 2: so ironic that one and we raised this earlier on

1065
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Speaker 2: this morning. The power companies suddenly need Huntley and what

1066
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Speaker 2: does Huntley do? It's colon gas of course, so they

1067
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Speaker 2: suddenly need power. The other story is the power prices

1068
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Speaker 2: will be again elevated this year. And I read yesterday

1069
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Speaker 2: from Japan nuclears back and back in a big way.

1070
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Speaker 2: But I've got to get to the banks real quick,

1071
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Speaker 2: because I said i'd do that ASB yesterday. Congratulations to them,

1072
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Speaker 2: big fat profit. Oh we love it when the banks

1073
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Speaker 2: are profitable, don't we. Seven hundred and sixty three million

1074
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Speaker 2: dollars bad debt provisions are up, which I know. That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Their net interest margin has gone up as well. What

1076
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: a surprise. So they put their net interest margin up

1077
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Speaker 2: from two point two to one to two point three

1078
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Speaker 2: to zero, and all of a sudden they're making more money.

1079
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Speaker 2: I wonder how that works. Meantime, across the Tasman the CBA,

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Speaker 2: they talked reasonably positively about the Australian economy and all

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Speaker 2: of that's fantastic. They made in profit for the half

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Speaker 2: year five point one three billion dollars their net interest margin.

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Speaker 2: Remembering that the New Zealand equivalent. Just let me remind

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Speaker 2: you of two point three to zero in Australia, it's

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Speaker 2: two point zero eight. So same bank, similar markets, different

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Speaker 2: profit margin. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Vic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powerd

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

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Speaker 14: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: Very, very good news from the government on foreign houses.

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Speaker 2: I tell you about that in just a couple of moments.

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Speaker 2: Back to mas Lebert, who's still going. He didn't interview

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Speaker 2: Trump prior to the Super Bowl with Britt Bear at Fox,

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00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: which is worth listening to himself. He said a couple

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Speaker 2: of things. I've featured one of them yesterday. He said

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Speaker 2: maybe the Ukrainians will become Russian one day and a

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00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: lot of people what's that mean. The other thing you

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Speaker 2: meet you was a potential deal with Iran, so they

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Speaker 2: want to know more about that.

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Speaker 20: The President has made it very clear that he will

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Speaker 20: never allow Iran to have nuclear capabilities. That is a

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Speaker 20: red line that he has drawn and he will not

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Speaker 20: allow that to happen. But you asked why President Trump

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Speaker 20: wants to make a deal, I would remind you he's

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Speaker 20: the master of the art of the deal. He is

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Speaker 20: America's deal maker in chief. He leads from a position

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Speaker 20: of securing peace through strength, and I think time and

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Speaker 20: time again already in just four weeks we have seen

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Speaker 20: the President being able to negotiate successful deals with our partners,

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Speaker 20: our adversaries all around this world. The release of Mark

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Speaker 20: Fogel just last night is something that I think speaks

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Speaker 20: to the President's deal making ability.

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Speaker 2: She's an echo lot, there's no doubt about that. So

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Speaker 2: here's this business desk yesterday, and this carries on from

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Speaker 2: what I think we got out of Winston Peter's on

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Speaker 2: Friday on the program. So reportages as follows. The Cabinet

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Speaker 2: has signed off a new set of rules for foreign investors.

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Speaker 2: The guiding principles of the new regime have been settled.

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Speaker 2: They're close to conclusion as well on the agreement with

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. First of allow wealthy migrants to purchase homes

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand at the five million dollar marc. So

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Speaker 2: we've been putting it to lux and Willis and Peters

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Speaker 2: for a while now. What we've heard is five to

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Speaker 2: six million. All there about that, remembering the National Party

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Speaker 2: policy was two million in the campaign, seemed to make sense.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't have homes worth two million dollars or more.

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Speaker 2: A foreigner might be interested, remembering of course that two

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Speaker 2: million dollars New Zealand is about seventeen dollars sixty five

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Speaker 2: British pounds. And so these people, you can't get them

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Speaker 2: to come to the country and luxn's work this out.

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Speaker 2: You can't get them to come to the country and

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Speaker 2: open businesses and invest and grow and employ people and

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Speaker 2: then rent a house. You just can't do it. It's stupid.

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Speaker 2: And I think even got across the line. Hence is

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Speaker 2: Mayor Culper on the program last Friday. Both policy announcements

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Speaker 2: will be announced at or before this Foreign Investor's Summit,

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Speaker 2: which is coming up in March. So I'm glad they've

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Speaker 2: got that across, and that means I'm probably going to

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Speaker 2: win my lunch with Andrew callaher who yesterday one of

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Speaker 2: the banks, I can't remember which one is still picking

1141
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Speaker 2: growth in the real estate market. It's seven this year.

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Speaker 2: He thinks it's going to be below five with this

1143
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: move and play, I think you're going to see more

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Speaker 2: seven than Andrews. So he's the one who's going to

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Speaker 2: be buying lunch. So we'll be looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Eleven away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast with the range rover Villa News

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Speaker 1: togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: Like, what foreign investor is going to want to go

1150
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: through what the McDonald's and Wanica went through as part

1151
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: of it's a good point. And this is going to

1152
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Speaker 2: Willis's speech today about supermarkets all today or tomorrow whenever

1153
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: it is at the Whyekava It's about regulation. They've got

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Speaker 2: to get this under control. You can't And Peter Teele

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00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: was the example that Winston Peters gave. Tea wants to

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Speaker 2: build a lodge in Wonica. You can't have a lodge,

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: you can't have McDonald's. What's it about Wanica is wanting

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00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: to just like an empty open space, So have a hill,

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Speaker 2: have a lake?

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Speaker 10: Could they market it as the town where time stood still?

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Speaker 2: Despite the fact speaking of progress or lack of the

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Speaker 2: most contentious of plans is underweing Wellington the Golden Mile April.

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00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 2: It's starting new details show the first eight months includes

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00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: road layout changes, pipeworks and trees. Then it's two years

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00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: worth of work widening footpaths, adding cycleways, specialist bus lanes

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Speaker 2: and rain gardens which don't require watering anyway. The Business

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Speaker 2: Central CEO of Simon archisas with as Simon, very good

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Speaker 2: morning to.

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Speaker 12: You, very good morning to you too.

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Speaker 2: Make how I I'm well, thank you. Remind me you

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00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: four again this.

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Speaker 12: For this in a sense that something has to be done.

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Speaker 12: If you've walked down courty placed in the last few years,

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Speaker 12: it's a pretty depressing side and it needs in. Kis

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Speaker 12: getting that way too, so we need to have a

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Speaker 12: lift the Again, that is the lack of conversation for businesses.

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Speaker 12: But no doubt we may discuss that.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't we learn that lesson from the CRL in

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Speaker 2: Auckland where businesses have fallen by the wayside and everyone went, jeez,

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Speaker 2: we better do it better when we do it somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: and we're doing it somewhere else, we're not doing it better.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's the lesson learners we're talking about the MIC.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think in terms of and that's the

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Speaker 12: council and in terms of you know this aral. They

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00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 12: ended up with a twelve million dollar front. They were

1186
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 12: that aware of the of the risks. It doesn't necessarily

1187
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 12: all need to be spent, but you've got to make

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 12: sure that businesses they put it in peril and people's livelihoods,

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Speaker 12: their employees are protected. And this council isn't doing it

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Speaker 12: and it's not good enough.

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Speaker 2: As an exercise from go to we're not at the

1192
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: woe yet, but from go to when eventually the woe comes.

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Speaker 2: How would you rate this?

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Speaker 12: Look, I mean, we're going away. We're talking about let's

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Speaker 12: get Willington moving the ghosts of and that was a

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00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 12: seven point two billion dollar fantasy, and we're down to

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Speaker 12: one hundred and thirty million to get to get the

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Speaker 12: two streets. George up a bit. Look to me, I

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Speaker 12: don't want to sound cynical because I am. I'm thrilled

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Speaker 12: they're going to be doing it, but it has been

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00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 12: a careening mess over time, and I just hope that

1202
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Speaker 12: this can be delivered on time and on budget, and

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Speaker 12: that will be a pledge that we should help hold

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Speaker 12: all of those counselors for it to account as online, I.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't better lunch on it being on budget or on time.

1206
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: Do you want to take that bet or not?

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Speaker 12: Really, I think we're worth saving each other. Lunch that

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00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 12: way might because I think I'd be on the same side.

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00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 12: So I think, Look, I mean, these projects are big,

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00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 12: but I really do think those businesses out there that

1211
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 12: will suffer to just say there is no money available

1212
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 12: there actually, and often, of course we say that these days,

1213
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 12: but there is money. The council collects eighteen million dollars

1214
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 12: extra not rates, an extra levy from the businesses of

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Speaker 12: Wellington or Central Wellington, and that money is there to

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Speaker 12: be used for business. Is the purpose of the taxation

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 12: or the levy, and the reality is they're not spending

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00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 12: it on that and they need to and that is

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Speaker 12: what we will have a particular issue with publicly.

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Speaker 2: Do you think outside of your wheelhouse, do you think

1221
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: all of this angst of Wellington in the last year

1222
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Speaker 2: or so is going to generate some good turnout in

1223
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Speaker 2: the local elections this year or not.

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Speaker 12: I think that I think that we will see some

1225
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 12: motivated voters, ratepayers, and that's probably the one plea with

1226
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 12: commercial and residential rutpayers to get out there and vote

1227
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 12: because we had such fortune out. I think I think

1228
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 12: we'll see some candidates who are really keen to make

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 12: a difference. And probably for me in this role, the

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Speaker 12: most motivated people about making the change are certainly That's

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00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 12: what I'm seeing much more of this year.

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Speaker 2: So that's good, good, good, good, all right, Simon, good

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Speaker 2: to have you on the program as always, Simon Archias.

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00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: Business Central CEO Ben Campbell just wanted to get somebody

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Speaker 2: on this live thing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: When Live came along, we thought, oh my god, it's

1238
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: the Arabs and the money and Greg Norman and the

1239
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: PGA hates them and they hate the PGA, and where's

1240
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: this going to go? And then there was a sort

1241
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: of a merger. But what's that a all about? Anyway? Meantime,

1242
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: Ben Ben Campbell, he suddenly picked up. He's in one

1243
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: of the teams, Bubble Watson's team on Live, Living the Dream,

1244
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: collecting all the dough? Is it all that's cracked up?

1245
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: To be a look and to live? Shortly after the news.

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01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: Good the Mike hos Game was in stateful, engaging and

1247
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Speaker 1: vitally the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities,

1248
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: Life your Way news togs had been it.

1249
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: Is seven minutes past eight. So I wanted to give

1250
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: you this insight and to live Golf Winner to Rideberry controversial,

1251
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: of course, it was backed by the soundings. It was

1252
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: money raining down on every title. It's going to rip

1253
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: the Game of Part all that sort of stuff. So

1254
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: how's it actually unfolded? Where's it at? Kre we? Ben

1255
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: Campbell plays on the Asian Tour. He got to play

1256
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: live last year as a fill in. This year is

1257
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: joined full time as part of Bubba Watson's Range Goats team,

1258
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: and last weekend he came in, as I said before

1259
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Speaker 2: the news fifteenth collected half a million bucks just like that.

1260
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Speaker 2: So this week they're all in Adelaide. Anyway. Ben Campbell's

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Speaker 2: with us from South Australia.

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Speaker 18: Good morning, Yeah, good morning to you. How are you

1263
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 18: guys getting on listen?

1264
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm really well now. Took me through this whole experience

1265
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: live before. What we your thoughts live now that you're

1266
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: in it. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 18: I think last year I was lucky I was a

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 18: reserve out here and yeah, I think it's definitely you know,

1269
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 18: the events are different to you know, I think you've

1270
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 18: got to go to them in person see what they're like.

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Speaker 18: This this week here in Adelaide's going to be amazing.

1272
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Speaker 18: But I think, you know, it's I think definitely being

1273
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 18: part of it now this year being member of the

1274
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 18: range Goats, it's it's definitely a cool experience and really

1275
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 18: looking forward to this week.

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Speaker 11: It's. Yeah, I'm really excited for the year.

1277
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Speaker 2: As it turned out the way you thought is the

1278
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: sort of golf. You thought the crowds, you thought the competition,

1279
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: you thought it was a bit different.

1280
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it's very much the same. It's it's growing.

1281
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 18: It's definitely getting bigger and bigger. I think, you know,

1282
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 18: from even from last year, even just being a reserve

1283
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 18: that the events at the start of the year to

1284
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 18: the to the last few events, I think, you know,

1285
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 18: like the crowds have got bigger, just the whole following

1286
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 18: had got a lot bigger, and you know, and and

1287
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Speaker 18: Liver it just producing such a good problem. They're getting

1288
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 18: better and better and better at every event, and which

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01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 18: is exciting. And you know, we come back here to

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Speaker 18: Adelaide this year and you didn't think anything could have

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Speaker 18: got bigger, bigger than it had, but like the grand

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01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 18: stands are bigger here. I think there's five thousand more

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Speaker 18: people a day. So yeah, I think it's just one

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Speaker 18: of those it's you know, growing as it every year.

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Speaker 2: Really, what's its success or your view of its success.

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01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: Is it people turning up to see individual golfers or

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Speaker 2: golf teams or is it just a like like a

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01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 2: well marketed thing that you know, you get entertained by.

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Speaker 18: I think it's a bit of everything. I think one

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Speaker 18: thing I really liked last year being reserved. I got

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01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 18: to see some things probably the players didn't quite yet

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Speaker 18: to see.

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Speaker 11: I just enjoyed it.

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Speaker 18: The kids coming out, Like I feel like parents taking

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01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 18: kids through golf tournaments. It's tricky, you know, like trying

1306
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 18: to keep kids quiet and things like that is always difficult.

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 18: Where out here the music's going, it doesn't really matter

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01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 18: if a kid makes a noise in someone's backswing. The

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01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 18: music sort of drowns it out. It's it's definitely a

1310
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Speaker 18: different experience. It's it's different to your standard golf tournament.

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01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 18: You know, there's there's definitely people here that they might

1312
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 18: only see a couple of golf shots, you know. But

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Speaker 18: it's like, you know, people go to the horse racing

1314
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 18: and have a great day at the horse races and

1315
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 18: and sort of, you know, see a few shots. But

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 18: I feel like it covers for every Everyone's got sort

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01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 18: of an option that people can watch every golf shot.

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Speaker 18: People can sort of listen to some music, watch a

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Speaker 18: couple of golf shots, and yeah, it's different, and it's

1320
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Speaker 18: and it's targeting a different market.

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Speaker 2: Does that diminish the game? In your view? You know,

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: as a guy who's swung a club as whole life.

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Speaker 10: No, not to me.

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Speaker 18: I think you know, you look at the golf since

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Speaker 18: COVID in New Zealand, like the amount of young people

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Speaker 18: getting into golf. If if we can have people that

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Speaker 18: have never been on a golf course before come out,

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 18: enjoy the time here and and then really you know think,

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01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 18: oh well, golf sort of, I might actually give it

1330
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Speaker 18: a go. If we can get more people playing the game,

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Speaker 18: then to me, surely that's got to be a good thing.

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Speaker 2: And does that counteracted because when you know, when Live

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01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: came along, it was that animosity, big scrap. But what

1334
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: they argued was you need big names, more names, Tiger Woods,

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01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: John Rahm, whoever. It's not going to succeed. Are you

1336
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: saying it is succeeding in and of itself?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: I think you look at watch the cards this week

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Speaker 18: and you know, and and see it like it's an

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Speaker 18: amazing week here in Australia. People come from, you know,

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Speaker 18: all over Australia. The amount of Kiwis that have come

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Speaker 18: over this week is amazing. So you know, you've got

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Speaker 18: some of the biggest names in golf. You know, obviously

1344
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 18: Bryce and Brooks, Jon Rahm. You know, there's some amazingly

1345
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Speaker 18: big names here and you know here in Australia it's

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 18: definitely taken off.

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Speaker 2: So that pathway, I mean, where where's it at? I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you guys still talk about it? Do you talk

1349
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Speaker 2: about the PGA and the other tours. Is there's still

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Speaker 2: that sort of that animosity or is that all settled down?

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Speaker 18: I suppose it's sort of different from me coming from

1352
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 18: the Asian Tour, like the Asian two has been backed

1353
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 18: by liv Golf for the last I think it's three

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01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 18: years now, so I think from coming from the side

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Speaker 18: of the world, it's I don't think it's sands so

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Speaker 18: much that way. I think if you're in America then

1357
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Speaker 18: it's it's probably still a little bit that way, but

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Speaker 18: it's I think it's definitely getting better.

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Speaker 2: What about the pathways, I mean, announced into the Open,

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01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: into the Master of if Live can get in, if

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Speaker 2: you can get to the big ones through live that way,

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Speaker 2: as a player, does that change everything potentially?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? I think that's that's huge.

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Speaker 18: I think you know, if you see what's happening, you know,

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Speaker 18: and that then all those sort of majors giving spots

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Speaker 18: now it's it's definitely awesome for live, it's great for

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Speaker 18: the players, and it's just you know, it's a sort

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Speaker 18: of win win for everyone, and I think it just

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Speaker 18: shows that it's probably getting seen now at that level.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear. Hey, listen, hold on, we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the team side of the whole equation. Just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments, Ben Campbell and Adelaide for us this morning,

1373
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: living the Live Dream at is twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Husking Breakfast All Show podcast on iHeart Radio,

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: Call It by News Talks, A.

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01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: B News Talks, A sixteen coming up sixteen past day.

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Speaker 2: Ben Campbell's in Adelaide for us to delive event this week,

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Speaker 2: and now listen your part, as you mentioned, part of

1379
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Speaker 2: the Range Goats, the team, the Range Coats team itself,

1380
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: the team concept. I mean, is it necessary, does it work?

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Speaker 2: Does it bring a different sort of element to it?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it definitely does.

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01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 18: I think I hadn't sort of obviously obviously you know

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Speaker 18: last week from my first time planners as a team member,

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Speaker 18: I'd obviously field in a few times, but like being

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Speaker 18: part of a team, it was quite interesting on the

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Speaker 18: last whole obviously had a part for Bertie and I'm

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Speaker 18: trying to make it. But I looked up I saw

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Speaker 18: we were one shot off second, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 18: I got it.

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Speaker 11: Really gotta knuckle down. And I actually did think of

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Speaker 11: the team.

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Speaker 18: I thought like, let's be cool, we try and hold

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Speaker 18: us and get us into tide second and sort of

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Speaker 18: was lucky to lucky to do that and made the part.

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Speaker 18: So yeah, I think it just gives a different perspective

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Speaker 18: on it, and it's and it's good. It gets you know,

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Speaker 18: people following teams. Yeah, and I think it's it's it's

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Speaker 18: definitely a good thing.

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Speaker 2: What about the money you win half a million dollars?

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01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: Has that changed? I mean, the whole thing about liv

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01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: was look at the money. I mean, is winning half

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01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: a million dollars as you did for coming fifteenth? Does

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01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: that change your view of it?

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01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 13: No?

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 18: Not for me, not really, I think, don't get me wrong,

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 18: it's like great, but it's I think after what I've

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01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 18: gone through with injuries and things like that, it's it's

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01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 18: not so much the money. It's if I wanted money,

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Speaker 18: I would have been doing something else a long time ago.

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Speaker 18: But it's yeah, I think I think out here it's

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Speaker 18: great for me. You know, I'm playing against some of

1413
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Speaker 18: the best players in the world. Jon Rahm, you know,

1414
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Speaker 18: you're playing practice rounds in tournaments. You know, Bubba Watson's

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Speaker 18: my team captain with you know, asking those guys some questions.

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01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 18: I remember last year heading bunk shots with bryceon when

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 18: we were struggling with the same shot and you're sort

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01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 18: of talking different ways how to hit it. Like, he's

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Speaker 18: one of the best players in the world. So I think,

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Speaker 18: you know, from someone coming from New Zealand, you know,

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01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 18: being able to have that opportunity now to learn from them,

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 18: you know, it's only going to do my goalf a

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Speaker 18: lot a lot of good.

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Speaker 2: Do you really learn from Bryson given he's so weird

1425
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: and he makes it all up.

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Speaker 18: He's just like he's got all the numbers behind it,

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Speaker 18: and he's sort of he's you know, he does it

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 18: very different compared to a lot of the guys out here.

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Speaker 18: But yeah, I think, you know, he's definitely you want

1430
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 18: to see him with us. He's got like his flight

1431
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 18: scope out here, he's heading shots from the rough to

1432
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 18: know what the spin does and things like that.

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Speaker 11: He definitely goes about a different way. But it really

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Speaker 11: works for him.

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Speaker 2: What about the psychology of the money in the sense

1436
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: that you enter a weekend knowing you will win something,

1437
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: Does that change your approach as a player or not?

1438
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 11: No, not really.

1439
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 18: You know, you're still trying to just finish up as

1440
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 18: high as your high as you can, and you're still competing.

1441
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 18: You're still everyone's still trying to win. And I think,

1442
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 18: you know, that's the thing out here that probably last

1443
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 18: year what surprised me was how hard the guys are

1444
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 18: working out here. You've got, you know, a guy like

1445
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 18: Phil Nicholson who's, you know, obviously coming near the end

1446
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 18: of his.

1447
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 11: Career, but how hard he still works.

1448
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 18: You know, we talked about Bryson just before, but you know,

1449
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 18: Bryson's sometimes the last person on the range, you know, grinding.

1450
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 11: You know, it surprised me last year.

1451
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 18: You wake up early and go to the gym and

1452
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 18: the guys that are in there, you know, there's still

1453
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 18: a lot of fight, you know, and the guys really

1454
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 18: do want to play well.

1455
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: And is there what be camaraderie about living that sense

1456
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 2: we're you know, we're the live gang. We hang out together,

1457
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 2: we get on together. Or is it's still a very

1458
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: individual sort of sport with egos and personalities.

1459
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 11: No, I think that's definitely been one thing.

1460
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 18: You know, I think especially at the start, those guys

1461
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 18: that came out here, but you know, I've felt so

1462
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Speaker 18: welcome out here.

1463
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 11: The guys have been amazing. You know.

1464
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 18: I think I had to interviewed a couple of days

1465
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 18: ago and told a story like my first event last

1466
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,879
Speaker 18: year in Mexico, just the mounted guys. I didn't know anyone,

1467
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 18: the mount of guys coming up welcome you. Hey, if

1468
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 18: you need anything, just let us know. Yeah, that's been

1469
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 18: the one thing. You know, the guys that I've always

1470
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 18: looked up to my lafe in the golfing life, and

1471
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 18: then they're coming up and and helping out.

1472
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Speaker 11: Was it was pretty pretty surreal.

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Speaker 2: So I think, you know, think about it from a

1474
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: business point of view as a startup. So you got

1475
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 2: Greg Norman in there early, all those guys as a business,

1476
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: as an idea, as a launch. Is this or has

1477
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: this been as good as it gets?

1478
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 11: Yeah? I think it's just it's growing.

1479
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 18: You know, It's like a small business that starts up,

1480
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 18: and there's the learning. There's that they're employing more people

1481
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 18: and the events are getting bigger and bigger.

1482
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 11: So yeah, I think I can't.

1483
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 18: It's not going to go away, and I think it's

1484
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,919
Speaker 18: it just seems to be getting stronger and which is exciting,

1485
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 18: and it's it's great to bring golf to some parts

1486
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 18: of the world like this, you know that haven't had

1487
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 18: a lot of a lot of big events. Okay, we've

1488
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 18: had the Australian Open, but they have fifty four of

1489
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 18: you know, some of the world's best players coming down

1490
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 18: and that, you know, it would be great. Hopefully we

1491
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 18: maybe get one in New Zeland one day exactly.

1492
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Speaker 2: By the way, have you seen is TGI golf?

1493
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Speaker 18: No, I haven't sort of seen too much of it.

1494
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 18: It was I was in America at the start of

1495
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 18: the year when it was just kicking off. But I

1496
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 18: actually I've just seen a little bit of the stuff online,

1497
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Speaker 18: but I haven't sort of seen too much of it, so.

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, I watch you on leve,

1499
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: I watched the PGA. I like all of that, But

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Speaker 2: then do I enjoy watching you know, guys smack a

1501
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: ball into a wall inside a stadium and then they

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Speaker 2: put on a g I mean, is that interesting?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? I suppose it's just going to be time. Time.

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01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 11: You know, time's going to tell if it's if it's

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Speaker 11: going to take off off or not.

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Speaker 18: But I suppose they're trying to trying to do something different,

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01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 18: try and get you know, some of the people that

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Speaker 18: might not watch golf.

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Speaker 11: I'm not you know, I'm not too sure.

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Speaker 2: So do you have been talk to me about the year?

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Speaker 2: You got it all lined up? Are you excited?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's going to be. It's definitely busy. Like the

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Speaker 11: live schedule.

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Speaker 18: We we've got fourteen events from well thirteen more from

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Speaker 18: now until till the twenty fourth of August. So obviously

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Speaker 18: i'll play play that and then I'll I'll finish off

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Speaker 18: the year with a little bit of sort of the

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Speaker 18: International series on the Asian Tour and try and qualify

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Speaker 18: for a couple of majors.

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Speaker 11: So, you know, it's great.

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Speaker 18: The New Zealand Open having the British Open spot this

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Speaker 18: year is going to be awesome. So you know, that

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Speaker 18: was great news to get announced just a couple of

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Speaker 18: days ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Hey, listen, Mat go well this weekend and

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Speaker 2: for the season. Good to have you on the program.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Ben Campbell, New Zealand delivering the

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Speaker 2: Like I love top quality sport and watching top golf

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Speaker 2: on the TV and the concept of genuine competition meaningful

1555
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Speaker 2: think about live at least in New Zealand, it's invisible

1556
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Speaker 2: so can't relate. It's not a bad point. They do

1557
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: put it out or pump it out. You can't get it.

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: I mean you can't do it on the television. They've

1559
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: got broadcast issues, but they do pump it out. You

1560
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 2: can watch anything anywhere you want these days. Can you explain, Mike,

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 2: delve players plan the PGA. No, we're only on their

1562
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: own tournaments. The link that he was making there is

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: that for the Open, the Open, as in the British

1564
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 2: Open and the Master, there's now a pathway. So in

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: other words, you can be a live player and still

1566
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: get a pathway through to the major tournament. So sort

1567
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: of that's where this merging is coming together. Mike, I

1568
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: was watching Parliament Question Time yesterday listening to the questions,

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01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: particularly from Barbara Edmonds and Chris Hopkins, trying to square

1570
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Speaker 2: up the state of the economy at the feet of

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Speaker 2: the current government. It's like they have selective adnesia. No,

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: it's not. It's a deliberate and I've mentioned this on

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01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: the program several times. It's a deliberate and so far

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: successful political tactic that obviously the government knows. And if

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: you listen, if you were watching that and you saw

1576
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: Nikola Willis's answer, it's got right under her skin and

1577
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 2: they're sick of it. But it's a game they play

1578
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: in the hope that there are at least some people

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: who believe that this past year and its economic problems

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01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 2: are at the feet of the government, not at the

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: feet of the labor government twenty twenty through twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: And it's the classic thing what they're hoping will happen

1583
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: is the more they say it, the more people will

1584
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: believe it. It's a game, and the trick is not

1585
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 2: to fall for it. Rod Little is in Britain. He

1586
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: has will Us directly after the news, which is next

1587
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: her news talks, edb.

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The Mic Hosking breakfast

1589
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and use

1590
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: togs headb just.

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Speaker 2: On the news today that the power companies want to

1592
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: get together and try and cut some sort of deal

1593
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: on Huntley to keep Huntley alive. This is coal and gas,

1594
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 2: of course, so that's a realization that we are not

1595
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: at a place in this country or anywhere close that

1596
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: renewables are going to do the job, which then dovetails

1597
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: into the banks, also in the news once again today,

1598
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: who are being recalled by the government to appear in

1599
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 2: front of Select committees to explain what change James would

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Speaker 2: call their woke policies around coal mines and doing business

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01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: with them. Which brings me to a very interesting article

1602
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: I read yesterday that quotes the guy Higgins, Dan Higgins,

1603
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: who's the chief executive the B and Z, who was

1604
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: in front of a Select committee earlier or late last year,

1605
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: and he was explaining that it's not really about coal,

1606
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: it's not really about climate, it's about credit and credit

1607
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: risk and exposure to risk. Now, let me come back

1608
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: to that in just a couple of moments, twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with Insigneye Insurance peace of mind for

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Speaker 1: New Zealand business and.

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Speaker 2: In Britain, Ron Little, very good morning to you, roder ricking,

1613
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 2: good balling to you mate. Now, the other day you

1614
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: were regaling us with the chicken nugget stories and all

1615
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: the people who should be booted down in the country.

1616
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: But all the all the reasons they gave as to

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01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: why they can't. I know in PMQ's that even starmer now,

1618
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 2: except that a few of the excuses might be a

1619
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: little far fetched. I take it the some political fallout

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01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: for a person like him.

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Speaker 9: Well, well there is. And we've had another one, which

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:43,440
Speaker 9: is it's of a woman from Grenada in the Caribbean

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 9: who has been here illegally for eight years and they've

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 9: tried to kick her out and she's said she can't

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 9: go because her husband, since she married, is from Latvia

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 9: and she would be he would be discomfited by the

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01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 9: Caribbean cuisine, which is, as you know, like quite quite

1628
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 9: spicy in many cases, and he would not like that.

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 9: And you know this is coming day by day. Those

1630
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 9: ones I told you about were all true, and they

1631
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 9: were all within the last week. And then we get

1632
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 9: a judgment from a court which says that cards and

1633
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 9: refugees can come here and it's it's going to be

1634
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 9: that it's going to be a really big story over

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,879
Speaker 9: the next eight weeks.

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Speaker 2: How is there a number or is there? How does

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01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: it unfold?

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Speaker 9: Well, Elijah Baras says, the six hundred thousand illegal immigrants

1639
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 9: in London at the moment, I can dispute that I

1640
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 9: don't have the figures to hand. We know that more

1641
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 9: and more come every day and there is no there

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01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 9: is no way of getting rid of them because these

1643
01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 9: judges simply will not deport. And we've already heard Starmer

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01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,440
Speaker 9: say that the judge in this case of the Guardsans

1645
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 9: who want to come here the Palestinians got it wrong.

1646
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 9: They all get it wrong. So kir get rid of them.

1647
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 9: You know, we need to change in the way we

1648
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 9: do this because otherwise, you know, British people have been

1649
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 9: incredibly tolerant and are happy to sort of rub along

1650
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 9: with whoever comes in. But this is pushing it. You know,

1651
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 9: this really is pushing it. At the moment.

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01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,520
Speaker 2: Speaking of court, their Mark Raley was showing some exasperation

1653
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: yesterday the court decision that an officer accused of right

1654
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: could not be dismissed because the process was fundamentally unfair.

1655
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: Do these judges, broadly speaking, just uphold the law or

1656
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: are they interpreting the law?

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Speaker 9: No, they're interpreting it. I mean, I think this is

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 9: really important, Mike, And it comes back to what we

1659
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 9: were talking about previously. The lawyers and the judges and

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01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 9: everyone will point to the European Court of Human Rights,

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 9: they will point to the European Convention on Human Rights

1662
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 9: and say that this is where it all comes from. No,

1663
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 9: it doesn't. There is no question that when the ECCHR

1664
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 9: and the European Convention of Human Rights was drawn up,

1665
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 9: people thought the chicken gets would be something sufficient to

1666
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 9: allow to allow someone to stay in this country. It

1667
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 9: is the way it is being interpreted. And that's true

1668
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 9: of the gods and saying it's true of the rape issue.

1669
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 9: It's true of everything we've seen. It's the problem. It's

1670
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 9: the singer, not the song.

1671
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. As regards the war, we've been focusing a

1672
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: bit on that this morning, and Trump and the whole thing.

1673
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,759
Speaker 2: But so JD's there in Europe at the moment, Higgs

1674
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: Seth is there in Europe at the moment, Your bloke,

1675
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 2: John Healey's Secretary of Defense. Listen to what he said.

1676
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 23: Presidents Zelenskian President Trump have both spoken of their desire

1677
01:19:55,439 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 23: to see peace through strength and the commitments made do

1678
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 23: the UDCG provide the collective strength that we need to

1679
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 23: achieve that piece.

1680
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: So when he says what's the extra, what's he talking about?

1681
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 2: What do we mean? Where does Britain stand on all this?

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Speaker 9: I don't think he knows. And don't forget that John

1683
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 9: Heathy is probably the best of our cabinet ministers at

1684
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 9: the moment. You know, he is a competent human being,

1685
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 9: and thank god it wasn't David Lammy. There we are.

1686
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 9: We are rather marooned, but no more maroon than the

1687
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 9: rest of Europe, and possibly less so in what to

1688
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 9: do about what to do about Ukraine and Trump. We've

1689
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 9: heard from hexas excess that there is going to be

1690
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 9: no that there will be a resolution, and that Ukraine

1691
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 9: will obviously lose some land, and that in the meantime

1692
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 9: NATO has to shape up its act and Europe has

1693
01:20:55,520 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 9: to police whatever peace settlement comes about and also raise

1694
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 9: up it's spending. Because Trump is more worried at the

1695
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 9: moment about China than he is about Russia, and this

1696
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 9: is something which is a real problem for the labor government.

1697
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 9: It's probably not as much a problem for the labor

1698
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 9: government as it is for some in the rest of Europe,

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01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 9: where we do spend the right amount of one you're

1700
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 9: close to at least, whereas countries like Spain, Italy and

1701
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 9: some pay virtually next to nothing. But it's it's a

1702
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 9: siren call for us to wake up and understand that

1703
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 9: we have to pay for our security in a way

1704
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 9: that we haven't heard for decades.

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01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: Good to Dold, you might well catch up on next week.

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01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: Appreciate it Tuesday and Thursday for Rod Little Out of

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Speaker 2: Britain seventeen Away from Theme.

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Speaker 2: because look at Australia it's thirty something percent. We're mostly

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: we're renewable already for goodness sake, and that's the hydro.

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01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: But that's the problem with the hydro because the lakes

1717
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: aren't particularly full at the moment. Hence the warning this

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01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: morning that the price is going to be elevated yet

1719
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 2: again for winter. Yet again, in the middle of winter,

1720
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: they're going to roll out those warnings that busy, don't

1721
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: turn on the lights, don't heat your soup, don't turn

1722
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: on the heater, turn off your electric blanket, all the

1723
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: usual Bollockser than twenty twenty five, we wouldn't even be

1724
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: dealing with. But back to the bank. So the b

1725
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: N zaid, and this very good piece of work. I

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01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: was reading a news room yesterday. It's the counter to

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: the Shane Jones woke banks row. So in other words,

1728
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: they're saying they're not work. So this guy Higgins Huggins,

1729
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: rother Dan Huggins, who's the head of the b N said,

1730
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: here's in front of the committee in December. He is

1731
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: coming back very shortly. We've looked at our exposure to

1732
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: petrol stations, and then we look at the long term

1733
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: future of those businesses, recognizing that we would expect that

1734
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: they're going to see conversion to electric vehicles demand change

1735
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,480
Speaker 2: for fuel services. Well he's wrong in that, isn't he

1736
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 2: he's and what they're saying is they're not hiding behind Paris.

1737
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: So the Jones argument as they sign up to a

1738
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: climate change deal, and because they've signed up to that,

1739
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: they're happy to see a business, a legitimate New Zealand business,

1740
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: run into the ground. They go, no, no, no, no, no,

1741
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: it's about risk. We don't want to expose ourselves to

1742
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: the risk. They have. I think it's one hundred years,

1743
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty two million. Their exposure to petrol

1744
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: stations is one hundred and thirty two million dollars worth

1745
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: of business and they don't want anymore. Now, that to

1746
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: a degree is fair enough. But to then go, well, look,

1747
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: it's not about climate, it's about the business model. And

1748
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: we're looking at petrol stations and we're seeing this mass

1749
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 2: conversion to EV's and they're not going to be able

1750
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: to sell petrol anymore. Well, that's just straight up and

1751
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 2: down wrong, because we all know the story of evs.

1752
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: Evs are not a success story. They're not taking off.

1753
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 2: The amount of petrol being sold is not dropping dramatically.

1754
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: Petrol stations are not going out of business. And if

1755
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: we've learned anything in the last two or three years

1756
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: about the soak called global conversion to EVS. It isn't happening.

1757
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: It's hit a massive roadblock, and there are manufacturers, in fact,

1758
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,440
Speaker 2: virtually every manufacturer of cars in the world has backpedaled

1759
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: dramatically on where they're heading with EVS, and they're freaking

1760
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: out in places like Britain and Europe where the rules

1761
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: are ridiculous and government's made decisions about how you can't

1762
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: make in bust Indian engines past twenty thirty In Britain

1763
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: they've already extended out to twenty thirty five that'll be

1764
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: extended out into the never never, And they don't know

1765
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: what they're going to do because they've tooled up for

1766
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: EVS and they've invested billions for evs and they can't

1767
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: make them because no one wants them. And that's happening

1768
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: literally all over the world. So when the bank tone

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01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 2: up and go, ah, well we're seeing conversion of EV's

1770
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: and so petrol stations are dead, it's wrong. Simply not

1771
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: in our lifetime is that going to happen. Then I

1772
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: come to Fokashima. So I'm reading about Japan yesterday. Now,

1773
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 2: when Fokashima happened, the world, of course, for obvious reasons,

1774
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 2: completely and utterly panicked and they turned off a whole

1775
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: lot of their rum stations. They had fifty four nuclear

1776
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: reactors and those reactors provided thirty percent of Japan's energy.

1777
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: Only four of those who have been switched back on nay.

1778
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 2: Now it's gone from thirty percent to nine percent. That

1779
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: was theirs of twenty twenty three. But new Strategic Energy

1780
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 2: planned this week that's going to set a target for

1781
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: nuclear to provide twenty percent. So it's going to go

1782
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,919
Speaker 2: from nine to twenty. And why is this well, climate change,

1783
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: energy security, rising demand, industry encouragement, all helping push nuclear

1784
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: back on the agenda. Is nuclear good for the environment?

1785
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 8: Yes?

1786
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: Can data center operate on renewables?

1787
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 13: No?

1788
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: So is nuclear a genuine bona FID the option?

1789
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 9: Yes.

1790
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: So it's back on the table and they're having the conversation.

1791
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: And yet we, of course we're asleep at the wheel.

1792
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: We won't and so the data center dream will go

1793
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: nowhere and we will be forever issuing warnings in the

1794
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: middle of winter that you need to keep your electric

1795
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: blanket on two not three because the late levels are

1796
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: low and we don't have enough power.

1797
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Speaker 2: Split ends art picture painting for sale. It was commissioned

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Speaker 2: as a rapper und cover. This is Split ends as

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1817
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Speaker 2: for the first time in forty years. It's oil on canvas.

1818
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Speaker 2: It features the six band members. It's in front of

1819
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: an old tin shed on a Hawk's Bay farm. Name

1820
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: of the song really, isn't it? Front of a tin

1821
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: Chad and hawks beef for one thousand acres.

1822
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 22: It's cool.

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Speaker 2: Webs have got it. It's a ray Wyn Turner.

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Speaker 10: She was commissioning Jason to register you for another option house.

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01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: No, I'm just wondering if i've you know, got a

1826
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: bit carried away with myself on the Humphreys thing. The

1827
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: Humphreys thing, by the way, is tonight. It's overnight, Barry Humphreys.

1828
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: If you're not following this increasingly lengthy and boring.

1829
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Speaker 10: Story, you now go after getting Jason to register you,

1830
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 10: you're now going to get him to actually bed for

1831
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 10: you as well.

1832
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have to.

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01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 10: I mean, you'll know, here'll be are because we'll be

1834
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 10: busy watching mister Beast exactly.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, the Webs thing that twelve to twenty two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: If you want a bit of New Zealand music slash

1837
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Speaker 2: art history. Anyway, I'll come back to my Humphrey story

1838
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: tomorrow because it's all happening overnight. It could go really

1839
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: well for me, or it could be a complete another

1840
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: disaster and I might well be separated from my wife

1841
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 2: five minutes away from nine.

1842
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Trending now as well, the House of Fragrances now.

1843
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 2: Part of the Trump thing is there. After the spooks

1844
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: through after the conspiracy theories, there's one called Anna Paulina Luna.

1845
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: She's been put in charge of the team quote revisiting

1846
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: federal secrets. She's going to be looking at nine to eleven, Epstein, Kennedy,

1847
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: Luther King all but anyway she's going to she's starting

1848
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: with JFKA And here's what she sounds like.

1849
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 13: I can tell you based on what I've been seeing

1850
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 13: so far. The initial hearing that was actually held here

1851
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 13: in Congress was actually faulty in the single ballt theory.

1852
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 13: I believe that there were two shooters, and we should

1853
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 13: be finding more information as we are able to gain

1854
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 13: access into the skiff, hopefully before the files are actually

1855
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:42,879
Speaker 13: released to the public.

1856
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: Two shooters? Were they both on the Grassy knol or

1857
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: different grassy knolls? How many grassy knolls? What have you heard?

1858
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: I've heard eight grassy knolls and one came from space.

1859
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 2: The new knowledge and credentials were called into question because

1860
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: of this.

1861
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 13: Based on what we're actually looking to do with the

1862
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 13: Jeff can investigation, I'm looking at to actually bring in

1863
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,560
Speaker 13: some of the attending physicians at the initial assassination, and

1864
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,440
Speaker 13: then also people that had been on the various commissions

1865
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 13: looking into, like the Warreant Commission looking into the initial assassination.

1866
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: That's a very good So she's onto it. She's going

1867
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: to bring some members of the Warren Commission. And now

1868
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: that's going to create a mess because they're going to,

1869
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: I assume, have to dig them up because they're all dead.

1870
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: Every one of them is dead. The last one died

1871
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine.

1872
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 10: So what about the attending physicians that she wants to

1873
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 10: bring in.

1874
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: Maybe some attending physicians, Maybe they don't need to dig

1875
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: them up anyway, So the Warren Commission, they're all dead

1876
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: and have been there for a very long time, so

1877
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 2: she won't be bringing them in any time soon. I

1878
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: personally wouldn't mind seeing the Epstein files. I reckon, there's

1879
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: I reckon, there's a few names on there that Now

1880
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: what does he say? All hells are going to break loose?

1881
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 2: That's the one I'm into. I'm absolutely convinced.

1882
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 10: That No Traveler, though we'll have to get out of

1883
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 10: the black mark Ara and redect that probably some of

1884
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 10: those names might be quite closely.

1885
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 2: Let's no, not him, No, not him, Big Donut, no,

1886
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 2: no good Block, no good man. Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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