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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your real estate

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Speaker 1: needs news togs Head been well me Welcome today.

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Speaker 2: Seventy million per events, What exactly does that buy? A

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Speaker 2: new economic scorecard for you this morning. We've got a

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Speaker 2: new number one region and we found confidence in life.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you that enough. And Sir John Kerw

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Speaker 2: and Christopher Lux and the lads in the commentary box,

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Speaker 2: they're all here. Richard Arnold in America and Dennis Shanahan

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Speaker 2: does Australia for US OSCAR one New Week. Welcome to it.

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Speaker 2: Seven past six. So that's it for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming. Got to the playoffs. Fell at the

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Speaker 2: first hurdle. To be fair, I was late for the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks given things at half time were not what

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Speaker 2: they were at the end of the game. But we

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Speaker 2: never looked like we were going to win, did we.

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Speaker 2: I mean Beyonce, we got two points early, but although

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Speaker 2: that was technically a lead, at no point did you think,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we're going to go on with this?

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Speaker 2: The try we did score I thought was awesome, but

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Speaker 2: we needed much more where that came from, and it

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Speaker 2: never looked like that was going to happen. Penrith look

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Speaker 2: like the champions they are after a while they did

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Speaker 2: what great sides do, basically step up and finish us off.

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Speaker 2: Every time they had the ball. They looked a little

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Speaker 2: bit quicker, a little bit more expansive in their thinking. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: if he isn't the game's best player, who's certainly right

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Speaker 2: up there, under different circumstances, they would have been a

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Speaker 2: threat all season if you think about it, and I

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Speaker 2: mean the fact they started this is Penrith, the fact

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Speaker 2: they started the way they did and edding it up

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Speaker 2: in the hole they did, that's inexplicable. But if you

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Speaker 2: want any sort of consolation, can it come from the

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Speaker 2: potential that they will now go on and defend yet

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Speaker 2: again another title? Is there? I don't know comfort in

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Speaker 2: watching a side break records, given that if they win,

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Speaker 2: no champion side has come from last the following season

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Speaker 2: to go on and repeat that victory. The lesson the

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Speaker 2: season is there's clearly a handful of sides that are

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Speaker 2: quite obviously better than us, the Raiders, the Storm, the

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Speaker 2: Bulldogs of Panthers. Would it have been different? If Metcalf

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Speaker 2: and Barnett hadn't been lost, you know what, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: So the trip now is to materially improve the side

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Speaker 2: we had by historic measures. If you want a bit

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Speaker 2: of something upbeat a good seat, I mean a better

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Speaker 2: season than most. For virtually the whole season, there was

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Speaker 2: little or any doubt we were going to go to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Historically it's rare to be able to say that.

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Speaker 2: So we were there or thereabouts. But once we played

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Speaker 2: and lost to every one of those top sides, once

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Speaker 2: that fact was indisputable that we couldn't basically beat the

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Speaker 2: best sides, that was the season, wasn't it. So what

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Speaker 2: happened Saturday was always going to happen. The league is

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Speaker 2: too good, too tight these days for boilovers. Great sides

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Speaker 2: don't lose when it counts. That's why they are great.

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Speaker 2: The Panthers might be the greatest of them all. Let's see.

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Speaker 2: But for us maybe next year.

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Speaker 3: News of the World in ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: Britain seems the center of the action they now claim

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Speaker 2: as meeting as one hundred and fifty thousand tended out

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Speaker 2: for that big rally. The Business Secretary Peter Kyle, he

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Speaker 2: was rolled out for the government to defend their corner.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't just defending the Robinson protest, but also the

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Speaker 2: Mendelsohn mess.

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Speaker 4: You are trying to get a talent which is singular,

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Speaker 4: to put to the bear on behalf of our country,

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Speaker 4: which has been proven to be delivering for our country.

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Speaker 4: These are decisions that the primes to make. We knew

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Speaker 4: that there were risks involved, and also his talent led

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Speaker 4: us to believe at the time that the risk was

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Speaker 4: worth it.

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Speaker 2: Travelers, the more they look, the more they find.

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Speaker 5: Epstein was a monster, and it is inexplicable that he

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Speaker 5: had this relationship continuing with him after the first conviction.

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Speaker 2: He's a former ambassador to the States bout the way,

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Speaker 2: so he would know. The Tories, of course need no one.

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Speaker 6: By appointing the best pal of a known convicted pedophile

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Speaker 6: as US ambassador. The prime authority is completely shot and

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Speaker 6: there are questions that he now.

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Speaker 7: Has to answer it.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, he's got real trouble as impeason. His own party

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Speaker 2: actually now start to openly questions credibility. And that's before

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Speaker 2: we get to the vote for the deputy leader.

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Speaker 8: He is Bridget Today, I pledge to continue Angela ray

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Speaker 8: INA's campaigning rule as deputy leader, continuing her mission to

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Speaker 8: give members a strong voice at that cabinet table, her

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Speaker 8: ruthless focus on getting our candidates elected and re elected.

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Speaker 2: So it will be Bridget Phillipson against Lucy Power that

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Speaker 2: will be sorted next month. And then the death of

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Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton.

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Speaker 9: You think back to some of those beat that as well.

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Speaker 9: He wasn't successful in them against Floyd Mayweth Junior in

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Speaker 9: two thousand and eight and many Pakiow two thousand and

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Speaker 9: nine as well. That fight, there were really big moments

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Speaker 9: in British bots.

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Speaker 2: He was forty six, retired at the age of twenty four,

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Speaker 2: if you can believe it, started selling solar panels. Quick

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Speaker 2: word on the war. Poland's now closed the border with

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Speaker 2: Belarus's Belarus warm up a few of their weapons and

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Speaker 2: called the exercises. We are doing this for the safety

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Speaker 2: of our citizens. Russia has been behaving aggressively towards Poland

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Speaker 2: in the recent days, and for many years has been

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Speaker 2: behaving aggressively towards the entire civilized world. Finally impressed by opium,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure on the seventeen years of this program.

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Speaker 2: I've never used that word before. Anyway. It's where you

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Speaker 2: struggle to see things up close and search as though

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Speaker 2: are in Argentina. They've done studying this last for a

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Speaker 2: couple of years. I reckon I drops of the answer.

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Speaker 2: If you take an eydrops two three times a day,

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Speaker 2: your vision improves and you'll be able to read three

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Speaker 2: or more of those lines on the Jaga chat. You

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Speaker 2: know when you go to the doctor and you stand

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Speaker 2: outside the door and you club one of those anyway,

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Speaker 2: aft use of the world of the name. India's inflation,

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Speaker 2: what can I tell you? It's up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad. Two point oh seven four August, vegetables,

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Speaker 2: meat and oil. The Central Bank's got a weird band.

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Speaker 2: We do zero to three, of course they do two

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Speaker 2: to six. But anyway, at two percent, they'll take that.

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Speaker 3: How if my news talk.

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Speaker 2: Sippy actually speaking of starma? They could be headed for

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Speaker 2: a winter of discontent. The economy is stagnated in July, a

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Speaker 2: zero point four percent expansion in June, so they've got

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Speaker 2: worries on the budget which is coming up November. Twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it was in line with expectations. Production down

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Speaker 2: zero point nine, which is a lot better than expected

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Speaker 2: in the second quarter at zero point three zero point seven,

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Speaker 2: and the first they reckon it's going to fall apart

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Speaker 2: for the rest of twenty twenty five fifteen past six,

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Speaker 2: general like reagion of good morning to you morning, as

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Speaker 2: you might speaking of slipping back. We did two manufacturing.

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Speaker 2: I thought we're on the rise, but not then what

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 11: We did actually say about a month ago that it

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Speaker 11: might be a little bit premature to pop those champagne corks,

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Speaker 11: and yeah, so it's proved. So the Benz Performance of

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Speaker 11: Manufacturing indexcept move from expansiony fifty two point eight to

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Speaker 11: a contractory forty nine point nine in August, So manufacturers

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Speaker 11: still look to be doing it tough. For THEO preps,

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Speaker 11: you can spin it a little positively, and let's do

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Speaker 11: that after those sporting results, maybe the three month average

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Speaker 11: for the buyer that edged up to fifty point six,

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Speaker 11: so you could say that's an encouraging trend. New orders

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Speaker 11: are in pretty good shape, Hiast said one three years

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Speaker 11: fifty five point two, their third consecutive expansion mode, and

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Speaker 11: the gap to invatries is the biggest since November twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty one. But yeah, the recovery in the manufacturing sect,

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Speaker 11: if we if we do yet, one is off a

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Speaker 11: very weak base and four the five subindices are below

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Speaker 11: their long term average. So yeah, manufacturers are still not

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Speaker 11: that confident. Really, product levels they've gone backwards and actually

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Speaker 11: little bit disappointing when you think about the number of

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Speaker 11: cuts we've had to the official cash right over that period.

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Speaker 11: It's hard to call whether the manufacturing sector is actually

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Speaker 11: contributing positively to the economy and the current cord. And

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Speaker 11: what we do know is the core manufacturing sales volumes

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Speaker 11: the foul one point nine percent on quarter in the

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Speaker 11: three months to June. So I've seen that's not going

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Speaker 11: to help the GDP read We get this week obviously

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Speaker 11: a bit lagged, expected to show the economy contracted around

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Speaker 11: point three percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what about detail.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but hey, let's let's celebrate something. So there's some

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Speaker 11: good news this and this might benefit the manufacturing sector

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Speaker 11: down the track and the economy and the current quarter.

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Speaker 11: And it is from the retail sector so myke Kiwi

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Speaker 11: consumers have their wallets out, so the value of electronic

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Speaker 11: percent to six point nine to four billion in August

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Speaker 11: on a seasonally adjusted basis and not a one off.

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Speaker 11: This is the third straight monthly increase. It's the largest

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Speaker 11: this year. Quarry oil industries spend their up point nine percent,

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Speaker 11: and the hospital sect there's something to celebrate. They saw

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Speaker 11: one of a larger increases spending their up twenty one

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Speaker 11: November twenty twenty four. Wasn't just hospital that was seeing

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Speaker 11: that increased by forty one million point three billion. One

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Speaker 11: caveat these numbers aren't inflation justice, so could say this

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Speaker 11: might be just a higher prices. But we're also seeing

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Speaker 11: sentiment improve in terms of number of transactions. So one

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Speaker 11: hundred and seventy four million last month, that's up a

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Speaker 11: million from July and about fifty four dollars per transaction

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Speaker 11: total amount spent nine point three billion, So might let's

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Speaker 11: start talking about green shoots and consumer land. We've got

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Speaker 11: more rate cuts on the way that should help sentiment,

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Speaker 11: and that'll be welcomed by retailers heading to the end

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Speaker 11: of the year.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff stateside, though, consumers not happy, not.

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Speaker 11: So happy, no, so the University of Michigan cern a

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Speaker 11: second straight month of decline in September, so fell fifty

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Speaker 11: five point forward. It's a four months life from fifty

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Speaker 11: eight point two in August. Worston expected most expecting no change.

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Speaker 11: So consumers are seeing risks to business conditions. Jobs, we've

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Speaker 11: seeing that print recently, and inflation particularly weak among lower

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Speaker 11: middle income consumers, they're seeing risks to their own pockets

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Speaker 11: as well. So views around current personal finances days about

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Speaker 11: eight percent this month. Trade policy perhaps no surprise, that's

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Speaker 11: a big factor. So they conduct interviews. Sixty percent of

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Speaker 11: consumers provided unprompted comments about tariffs. They're not buying the

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Speaker 11: idea that it won't push up inflation, but took care

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Speaker 11: of the longer term, so inflation expectations. The feed looks

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Speaker 11: that Michael said, I'm meeting this week over a one

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Speaker 11: year four point eight percent. That's unchanged, but over the

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Speaker 11: five year term up to three point nine tenth three

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Speaker 11: and a half percent last month. So everything that's happened

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Speaker 11: this year is clearly impacting sentiment, and if you look

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Speaker 11: at the index, it's actually twenty percent lower than a

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Speaker 11: year ago. It doesn't help, of course that the FED

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Speaker 11: hasn't cut boring rates this year, but Mike, there might

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Speaker 11: be some respite had as well.

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Speaker 2: What a week go well? Greg Smith out of Generate

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Speaker 3: Pasky haven't seen the.

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Speaker 2: Swatch over the weekend. It's trolling Trump. It's quite funny.

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Speaker 2: On the thirty nine percent Tariff's watch of course made

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Speaker 2: the Bank of America kree they're going to create one

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Speaker 3: Talks it Be.

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Speaker 2: Mike is very disappointed at the Warriors. They seem to

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Speaker 2: choke at the business end every time. Ben, if you

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Speaker 2: They need better talent is my assummation. Mike Luckson's lost India.

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Speaker 10: Mike.

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Speaker 2: This government's going to give money to international acts so

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Speaker 2: Interesting age six twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five trending now with him as well Spring Frenzy sale

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Speaker 2: We have the opposite view. Back to the league. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Out his wash.

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Speaker 7: The tapers come, he sent it towards the stacks.

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Speaker 2: It's drifting logo.

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Speaker 10: He gives a pack.

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Speaker 3: He's given him no time.

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Speaker 7: That's fight the game rest.

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Speaker 3: Walt is injured.

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Speaker 10: Posts twenty eight a full time.

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Speaker 13: There's races from me till the thirty of passers. I'm

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Speaker 14: It comes to our papery, it goes to our honey.

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Speaker 2: Right to try. He wants to garden points. He's the

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Speaker 3: It's a shellot kick. She was chasing through.

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Speaker 7: Kids quite away.

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Speaker 2: The riders.

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Speaker 10: A raptor.

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Speaker 15: One of those riders games ever, the ball guys foward

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Speaker 10: We have a decision.

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Speaker 2: Tomo, sit back there.

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Speaker 16: Mate, Ben Hunt Hunt from inside Money Dinner.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's celebrating.

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Speaker 2: Unreal life and that's full of By the way, if

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Speaker 2: you missed the ram Philly Shield yesterday, that those final

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Speaker 2: sporting weekend worth talking about, wasn't it. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: Ny Mike host Game in Safeful, Engaging and Vital, The

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Speaker 2: On the Kerk investigation. Richard Donold Shortley twenty three to seven,

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Speaker 2: New Week New Hope. We've got the ASV regional economic

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Speaker 2: scorecard by a plenty calm on in strong employment, jump

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Speaker 2: in house sales. That's what number one looks like. Southland, Otago, Canterbury.

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Speaker 2: They represent the gold that is the South Island. Auckland

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Speaker 2: next morning, Good Morning in totality. What's it tell us

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Speaker 17: What we're looking at as signs that key export industries

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Speaker 17: I would say that the chunk of it will be

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Speaker 17: Not, that will be the case there. So Tigo has

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Speaker 17: Well, generally what we've seen is there it's always got

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Speaker 17: through and lot of construction and housing. They're not I

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Speaker 17: wouldn't say that they're spectacular, but the ratings there have

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Speaker 2: Export volumes down three point seven percent. Is that tariffs

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Speaker 17: They'll be perhaps a little bit of that. So we've

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Speaker 2: Broadly speaking, there are shoots. They are green, they're real.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 17: There are a few shoots coming through. But I think

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Speaker 2: Stuff nice to catch up within. Nick Tuughly, the ASB

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Speaker 2: Manuwa to Gismon, Hooks Bay are equal on twelve or thirteen,

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Speaker 2: Ep Oh boy, hard to believe the school holidays just

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Speaker 2: a week away again. You may soon find the old

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Speaker 2: always welcome. With a community full of outdoor spaces, park

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Speaker 2: of thing, there's lots for you to all do together.

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Speaker 2: You can spend time, quality time in a safe, family

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Speaker 2: it's nice to have somewhere of course that the grandkids

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Speaker 2: Morning Micom a secondary school teacher in christ Church. You

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Speaker 2: won't say what school, but our entire department has left.

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Speaker 2: The PPTA were appalled by the direction it's taken over

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Speaker 2: the past few years. Grounded in ideology, more interested in

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Speaker 2: opposing the Treaty Principles Bill last year than working on

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Speaker 2: paying conditions. My year twelves and thirteen's will be in

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Speaker 2: today because it's so close to the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: They've got work to do. I'm embarrassed by the union

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Speaker 2: and Abercrombie, who seems to have his own agenda to

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Speaker 2: enter politics. We wish there was another union, not full

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Speaker 2: of wote losers. I know this, won't you read out

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Speaker 2: on you six for.

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Speaker 18: Five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 18: mind for New Zealand business, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, who's not cooperating? Where are we at?

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Speaker 19: Not a lot further, but it might be a good

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Speaker 19: time to switch off from social media.

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Speaker 2: The murder of Charlie Kirk has.

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Speaker 19: Spawned many intense reactions, as you've been seeing from all

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Speaker 19: political corners. Pilots, teachers, commentators have been fired or suspended

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Speaker 19: because of their online post. Fox News host Jesse Waters

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Speaker 19: upine that Kirk was not polarizing but a patriot.

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Speaker 20: Novelist.

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Speaker 19: Stephen King responded to Kirk advocated stoning gay to death,

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Speaker 19: Ted Cruise and called King a quote horrible, evil, twisted liar.

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Speaker 19: Then King deleted his post and apologized. Trump weighed in

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Speaker 19: with this.

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Speaker 14: The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious,

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Speaker 14: and they're horrible, and they're politically savvy.

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Speaker 19: Well, we know the number of left wing politicians have

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Speaker 19: been targets of this violence as well. Trump aids Stephen

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Speaker 19: Miller said, well.

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Speaker 7: You're going to do what it takes to dismantle the

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Speaker 7: organizations and the ants it is that are fomenting riots,

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Speaker 7: that are docsing, that are trying to inspire terrorism and

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Speaker 7: that are committee acts of wanton violence.

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Speaker 19: Commentators Steve Bannon said the country internally is at war,

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Speaker 19: and they quote Steely resolver is required, and so on

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Speaker 19: and on as to the investigation of this case, so

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Speaker 19: a little new is indicated. One person being noted for

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Speaker 19: his comments is Utah's Republican governor Spencer Cox, who says

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Speaker 19: police have interviewed the AQ shooter's roommate with whom he

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Speaker 19: is alleged to have been romantically involved and who is

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Speaker 19: transitioning from male to female, whom government says was shocked

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Speaker 19: at what has happened.

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Speaker 21: I will say that that person has been very cooperative.

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Speaker 19: Government mostly has been lashing out at social medium. He

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Speaker 19: says it is up to each individual to decide how

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Speaker 19: to react to some of this, but assuredly this is

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Speaker 19: a moment of significant political turbulence.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Trump is off to see the King this week.

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Speaker 2: As regards the war on the way though this NATO

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Speaker 2: thing that they play, he plays, he plays, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how's this workout?

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Speaker 19: Well, it's again backing away from his promise to sanction

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Speaker 19: Russia more significantly over its invasion of Ukraine. He has

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Speaker 19: regularly threatened to punish Putin with new sanctions if Russia

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Speaker 19: refused to reach any agreement with Ukraine or move towards it.

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Speaker 19: Now he's adding these new conditions he has set, as

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Speaker 19: you say, to visit the UK this week, Trump proposing

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Speaker 19: new conditions for NATO allies, saying you will only sanction

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Speaker 19: Russia when all NATO nations stopped buying oil from Russia

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Speaker 19: and I post tarif on China. That is very unlikely,

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Speaker 19: says military analys Steve Ganyo a.

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Speaker 7: Very little chance that those NATO countries that are still

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Speaker 7: buying oil and gas from Russia will.

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Speaker 19: Cooperate, especially hungry in Turkey. So another past for Putin

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Speaker 19: is it Trump himself is saying of the supposed peace effort,

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Speaker 19: it does take two to tango.

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Speaker 14: It's amazing when Putin wants to do it, Zelenski didn't.

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Speaker 14: When Zelensky wanted to do it, Putin did. Now Zelenski

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Speaker 14: wants to, and Putin is a question mark.

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Speaker 19: Well, some would question where the Putin ever wanted to

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Speaker 19: take part in cease fire efforts, and there are growing

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Speaker 19: concerns among even some Republican pollies that Russia is simply

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Speaker 19: toying with Washington. Meantime, there is a new Russian drone violation.

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Speaker 19: Couple of F sixteen fighters were scrambled this weekend as

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Speaker 19: a Russian drone violated Romanian airspace. So last week Poland,

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Speaker 19: now Romania. As NATO faces these growing challenges see Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold stateside Belarus. By the way, while we're in

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Speaker 2: that eastern part of Europe, a whole bunch of political

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Speaker 2: prisoners were released over the weekend. This is the deal

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Speaker 2: they did with Lukashenko, Trump and Lukashenko. So fifty two prisoners,

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Speaker 2: trade union leaders, journalist activists, all that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: There's about a thousand of them still in jail. And

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Speaker 2: as a result of that, the US will relieve some

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Speaker 2: of the sanctions on Beller Russian their airline Belavia. Memphis

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Speaker 2: is your next port of call for the National Guard,

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Speaker 2: by the way, just to bring you up to speed.

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Speaker 2: So Washington, apparently that's a tex Chicago. I think they've

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Speaker 2: arrived in Chicago, but anyway, he's aiming for Memphis next.

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Speaker 2: And if you look at the crime rate in Memphis,

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Speaker 2: one of the highest crime rates in America. In Bolsonaro,

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Speaker 2: I think it was Friday got twenty seven years. The

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Speaker 2: Americans don't like that either. They see that a bit

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Speaker 2: of a stitch up, so they're going to do something

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Speaker 2: about that. We don't know what. Meantime, Rubio, who is

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Speaker 2: particularly upset about it, he's in the middle of Israel

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Speaker 2: trying to solve that problem at the moment, so it's

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Speaker 2: not like they're not racking up air miles trying to

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Speaker 2: solve the world's problems. Eleven away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm on myvent of stuff that's happening in the

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Speaker 2: world at the moment. Milawi's voting parliamentary, local council and presidential.

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Speaker 2: The presidential is a re race or a rematch. If

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Speaker 2: you liked the guy Chakwira and the man he beat

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Speaker 2: who was then president back in twenty twenty, a guy

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Speaker 2: called Mrika, they're both old. There are fifteen other candidates. Ironically,

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Speaker 2: somebody was suggesting and reading I was doing over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: The cues for the petrol will be longer than the

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Speaker 2: cues of people lining up to vote their economies shot pieces. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: Nepaul's gone weird, and it was weird before it went

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Speaker 2: even more weird. So the former Supreme Court Chief Justice Khaki,

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Speaker 2: she's a woman, seventy three, first woman prime minister, so

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Speaker 2: I suppose we go wow, first woman prime minister. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: the parliament buildings still on fire. So the parliament was dissolved.

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Speaker 2: General elections would be held March five next year. Problem

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Speaker 2: with that, and that was one of the demands of

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Speaker 2: these gen zas that have been protesting throughout Nepal. If

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Speaker 2: you're following this particular story, it's the kids on the streets.

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Speaker 2: They banned social media. The kids went to nuts. The

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister ran for his life along with the finance

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Speaker 2: min as. They set the place on fire. Anyway, once

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Speaker 2: they got the new interim Prime Minister and she dissolved

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Speaker 2: the parliament, all the other people in the parliament and

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Speaker 2: there's eight parties went well, hold on, you're not doing that.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know where that goes. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I hadn't forgotten about the Prime minister and talking about

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Speaker 2: that march. The march over the weekend over the bridge

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Speaker 2: didn't happen because it was breezy, which was I think

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Speaker 2: it was a stitch up by the cops. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: breezy enough to call it off. The cops called it

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Speaker 2: off because of the wind. I don't think it was

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Speaker 2: windy enough to call it off. They called it off

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Speaker 2: as a stitch up anyway, point being, I still haven't

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Speaker 2: been able to get to the bottom of it. Who's

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Speaker 2: responsible literally? I don't mean generally New Zealand Transport Association

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Speaker 2: and the police, but who literally makes the decision to

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Speaker 2: close State Highway one in the biggest city in the

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Speaker 2: country one and a half million people, so a bunch

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Speaker 2: of rebel can walk across the bridge and do one.

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Speaker 2: Is the war finished? Has the war been sorted over

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Speaker 2: the weekend as a result of the march? No, it

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Speaker 2: was twenty thousand that many they said, ten to twenty thousand.

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Speaker 2: No one can count, of course anymore. Is that a

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Speaker 2: big thing anyway? So I asked the Prime Minister about that.

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Speaker 2: He should know five away from seven.

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Speaker 3: Well, the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Right, Grocery supplier costs to supermarkets. We've got the Inframetric's

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Speaker 2: foodstuff supply cost index for August, costs were up two

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Speaker 2: point three percent compared to a year ago, So on average,

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Speaker 2: increases have sped up throughout the year. Now that's because

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Speaker 2: of input costs and your dairy and your meat story.

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Speaker 2: Chilled food's up three point six. That's dairy, bakery three

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Speaker 2: point seven. You don't need bakery. Bakery is bad for you.

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Speaker 2: Stop eating bakery, save some money three point seven. Butchery

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Speaker 2: up two point five. That's the fastest increase in since

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Two point five in a month is a lot.

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Speaker 2: You're olive oil going down. Cleaning and laundry products, they

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Speaker 2: are up. Nothing to ride home about. In the produce

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Speaker 2: department's all seasonal, of course, a month one month, there

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Speaker 2: were more than two and a half thousand products that

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Speaker 2: did go up. But that's actually the smallest number of

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Speaker 2: products in terms of increases in some six months. Normally

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Speaker 2: it's around an average of twenty eight hundred, So fewer

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Speaker 2: products are going up in price. So that's encouraging. I

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Speaker 2: would have thought. Internationally, now this is really interesting. The

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Speaker 2: International Food Price Index. This is the FAO that's up

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Speaker 2: six point nine in August, So we're laughing. Meat price

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Speaker 2: is globally the highest they've ever been. So if you

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Speaker 2: think it's expensive, yes it is, but it's expensive everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Dairies eased off slightly thanks to the highest supply from

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Speaker 2: the US and Europe. We got another dairy auction commis Root,

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Speaker 2: so we'll look forward to see what the numbers are

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Speaker 2: at because the last dairy auction weeks ago, of course,

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Speaker 2: it was a disaster and we don't want that. We

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Speaker 2: do not want that, Sir John Kerwin. I'm not, by

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Speaker 2: the way, for the record, I'm not angsting over the

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Speaker 2: all Blacks. You know, this was the side that just

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Speaker 2: enthralled us a week ago and then they fell apart.

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Speaker 2: What this says to me is this is a fantastically

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Speaker 2: tight competition. If you look top to bottom, there's two

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Speaker 2: points between the top and the bottom. Argentina are the

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Speaker 2: real deal, fantastic. Australia appear to be the real deal, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: We've all beaten each other, brilliant. It's good for the sport,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean is that that hard to be

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Speaker 2: positive about it? Right? Has Taylor coming and does anyone care?

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Speaker 2: Does seventy million dollars get her here? We'll find out shortly.

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Speaker 3: News, opinion and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: The Mike costing breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, news

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Speaker 1: togs Head been past seven.

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Speaker 2: So what does seventy million dollars get you? In the

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Speaker 2: tourism and events game? The ankster is driven out of

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Speaker 2: people like Taylor Swift, of course bypassing the country. But

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Speaker 2: does money actually fix that? Forty of the seventy million

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Speaker 2: is for headliners in large scale events. Brent Eckos, of course,

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Speaker 2: the founder of Eckel's Entertainment back with us. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Hey you going. I'm getting a lot of feedback this

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Speaker 2: morning from I suspect people who don't quite understand this equation.

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Speaker 2: When a government hands out seventy million dollars, who gets it?

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Speaker 2: And what's it?

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Speaker 12: By well, Jenery's it's just a phrase, the cost of

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Speaker 12: large shows coming to New Zealand. So I guess in

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Speaker 12: a sense the artists the artist benefits from it. The

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Speaker 12: promoter doesn't really. But it's the color of things like

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Speaker 12: the fact that our dollar is weak against the US dollar.

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Speaker 12: Most deals have done in US dollars. That you know,

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Speaker 12: freight costs have gone through the roof, production costs and

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Speaker 12: stage in such like that has stopped these shows coming

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Speaker 12: to New zeal over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: What about the basic economic imperative. I'm the manager of

657
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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift or Billie Eilish or Coldplay or The Rolling Stones.

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Speaker 2: I look at Eden Parker go I can pack that

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Speaker 2: place three times over for three nights. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: hire it. I'm going to make a shedload of money.

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Speaker 2: Does it not work that way?

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Speaker 12: In the case of Taylor Swift that everyone talks about,

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Speaker 12: that was never going to come to New Zealand. It

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Speaker 12: only went to Marlwokene, Sydney, didn't do Brisbane, Adelaide or Perth.

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Speaker 12: That was because of the size of the show that

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Speaker 12: the cost and sitting up was enormous. It would not

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Speaker 12: have worked in Eden park So but there are many

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Speaker 12: many other artists who I think you'll find you with

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Speaker 12: this fund. In the next three months or so, we'll

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Speaker 12: read more announcements for next summer, which as long as

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Speaker 12: these things take, but that will happen.

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Speaker 2: But you're telling me that, so go below Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me a Luke Colmes who did come here

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Speaker 2: and sold that I think it was seventy thousand tickets

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Speaker 2: or whatever it was. They're not making money on that,

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Speaker 2: there must be money to be made on that. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: why do we need government money?

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Speaker 12: Well he did come, yeah he can so that that

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Speaker 12: that equation worked for him. But there are artists that

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Speaker 12: their production requirements are such that that doesn't work. And

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Speaker 12: you know, we can go, you can put a head

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Speaker 12: in the sand and go, oh, you know they'll come anyway.

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Speaker 12: Well they're what they won't and they're not unfortunate. So

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Speaker 12: we're getting some but not all. I think the government's

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Speaker 12: recognized that it's so good for the psyche of New

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Speaker 12: Zealand they have these shows come. Plus all the associated

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Speaker 12: businesses profit from it too. It's good for everybody.

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Speaker 2: So it's a tea below Taylor Swift, but it's it's

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Speaker 2: there are acts clearly out there that that are what

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Speaker 2: too big and they don't you know, we don't have

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Speaker 2: the facilities, or they need a backhand, or I just

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't understand. It's a it's a subsidy, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, in a way it is, but it's the cost

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Speaker 12: of getting to New Zealand and putting on that show

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Speaker 12: in New Zealand. There are lots of reasons why. But

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Speaker 12: you know there are a number of artists that are

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Speaker 12: coming through well. A good example, I think we'll the

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Speaker 12: ac DC who's playing in Australia. I think in November

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Speaker 12: they should have come here and I suspect that's the

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Speaker 12: cost thing. But anyway, there's a whole lot of new

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Speaker 12: artists that are coming through now that are playing stadiums,

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Speaker 12: not arenas, not Spark Arena, but Edington Park or Western

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Speaker 12: Springs will go media type venue. They're starting to come

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Speaker 12: through now and we need to make sure that we

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Speaker 12: get them to the new Zeale. Not only that we're

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Speaker 12: going to have two great markets now, crisis is coming

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Speaker 12: on very very soon. That's a covered stadium that's going

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Speaker 12: to change the landscape as well. So I think that's

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Speaker 12: a smart thing for the government to do, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Brent appreciated Bret Eckles season campaigner in the entertainment space.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'll come back to christ which I was

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Speaker 2: reading about Christ each other the week in a very

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Speaker 2: good piece. I've got to recommend to your ten Pars

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Speaker 2: seven our new stats on gangs in our prisons. About

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Speaker 2: a third of Patch members are behind bars these days.

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Speaker 2: Apparently we've got over ten and a half thousand people

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Speaker 2: in jail. Of those three one and twenty four a

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Speaker 2: link to sixty four different gangs. Did you realize there

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Speaker 2: was sixty four of them? Seven hundred and forty two

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Speaker 2: just come from the mongrel mob alone, Floyd Floyd Douplacy

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Speaker 2: as the Corrections Association president back with us, Floyd morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sixty four gangs? I mean, who the hell

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Speaker 2: are they? Apart from the ones we all know.

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Speaker 22: There are a lot of smaller gangs out there that

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Speaker 22: generally out aligned the majority of the of the numbers,

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Speaker 22: and the offending tends to be in the bigger groups

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Speaker 22: that everyone knows about. A lot of those other smaller

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Speaker 22: numbers are relatively small.

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Speaker 2: Those statistics about a third. Does that surprise you if

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Speaker 2: you've done a quick head count, would you have come

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Speaker 2: up with that sort of number yourself?

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Speaker 22: Actually it does so for those of us working in

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Speaker 22: the prisons, we would have thought those numbers are higher

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Speaker 22: in reality. And the reason I say that is quite

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Speaker 22: often within those prisons there's people in there that according

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Speaker 22: to paper, are not aligned, but when when they're in

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Speaker 22: the prison, they are. We're walking alongside and supporting those

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Speaker 22: other groups for pure survival, and so we feel those

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Speaker 22: numbers actually higher than what paper suggests.

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Speaker 2: Tell us what's that till about the rehab story. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the chances of these people people being rehabilitated, I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: is low.

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Speaker 22: Absolutely, the chances is extremely low. And I know there's

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Speaker 22: been some commentary from the government that suggests they are

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Speaker 22: putting effort in there, and they are putting an effort.

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Speaker 22: The problem is the if it's far too small. So

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Speaker 22: if they actually talk to those people delivering that rehab

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Speaker 22: or the staff overseeing it, they'll realize that when you're

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Speaker 22: putting those gang influences in and amongst the rehead, those

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Speaker 22: influencers influence what is actually meaningfully able to be achieved.

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Speaker 22: And there needs to be a separation. We need to

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Speaker 22: be able to separate the gang members or separate those

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Speaker 22: members that are saying, hey, we're going to leave, we

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Speaker 22: want to walk away from this. You've got to separate

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Speaker 22: them from those influences. Otherwise they're never going to be

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Speaker 22: able to leave while they're in the prison. So there

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Speaker 22: needs a lot more effort in there.

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Speaker 2: And these statistics that is as a result of the

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Speaker 2: government law change, the so called crackdown on gangs. So

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Speaker 2: this is a material outworking of that.

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Speaker 22: That's definitely a component. So the more there's a crack

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Speaker 22: down on the outside, the more we're going to see

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Speaker 22: the numbers increase in the prisons. That's just a reality

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Speaker 22: of cracking down crime.

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Speaker 2: They're interesting numbers, aren't they. Floy appreciated as always, Floyd

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Speaker 2: duple to see the Corrections Association President thirteen past seven

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Speaker 2: past of minded the all blacks loser game. But by

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Speaker 2: my few points, that's life in competition. But we collapse

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Speaker 2: number one. Sides don't collapse, Mike. The teachers strike slowly

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Speaker 2: but surely, eroding the good will that parents have for

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Speaker 2: their cause. It's proving that no matter how much you

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Speaker 2: pay them, it'll never be enough. There will always be

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Speaker 2: another reason why they want more. Throwing more money at

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Speaker 2: teachers leaves less for everyone else. Do they not realize

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Speaker 2: that this country is still digging itself out of the

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Speaker 2: whole the previous government left. There are also many people

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Speaker 2: working in jobs that would love a guarantee two point

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Speaker 2: five percent increase every year, but get nothing or have

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Speaker 2: had no pay rise for the last few years. If

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Speaker 2: I were them, I would consider greatly the reputation that

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Speaker 2: they're creating for a vocation that is bordering on greedy

782
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Speaker 2: than one that has students at the heart of what

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Speaker 2: they choose to do for a career, well said Gina.

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Speaker 2: A be Prime Minister in the studio shortly seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: So it's turning out to be a roller coaster old

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Speaker 2: season for the All Blacks fans dispatch. Having dispatched the French,

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Speaker 2: Argentina tripped us up at least once acue the Yanks.

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Speaker 2: But then we put it all right, didn't we? South

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Speaker 2: Africa epic a week ago? Fantastic? And then until said

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Speaker 2: they night, it all came undone record loss. So where

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Speaker 2: are we at? John Cowan's with us, John Morning.

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Speaker 5: Well, must apologize Mike for the other day, No excuse

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Speaker 5: may sleep. No, actually did made myself do twenty push ups?

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Speaker 2: Mate, So I apologize with one arm. I hope is

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Speaker 2: there is a loss? A loss? Or was there something

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Speaker 2: odd about that?

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Speaker 10: Oh? Very odd?

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Speaker 5: To be fair, Mike, Like normally at the end of

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Speaker 5: an All Black loss, you'll come out and say, oh,

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Speaker 5: maybe it was high ball. You know, we've got one

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Speaker 5: thing to work on. It was a critical moment, But

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Speaker 5: I think the second half on the weekend was you know,

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Speaker 5: our line out dysfunctioned at times, we got put under

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Speaker 5: pressure at the scrum our high ball wasn't great and

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm sure the leaders will be looking themselves

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Speaker 5: and said, well, how did we sort of continue to

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Speaker 5: concede points? There seemed to be some nervousness in the field.

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Speaker 5: So normally we go away, can we can fix that up?

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Speaker 5: We'd be right, But I think this one is a

812
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Speaker 5: little bit more serious for the team to look at.

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Speaker 5: They'll be reeling everyone's really, I think because they're such

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Speaker 5: a surprise.

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Speaker 2: The schizophrenic nature of it though, how can you do

816
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Speaker 2: what they did a week ago and then a week

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Speaker 2: later it's completely different.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's a leadership. I think it's an

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Speaker 5: understanding of what we're trying to achieve and what happens

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Speaker 5: in crisis. So you know, normally what would happen is

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Speaker 5: you'd turn to a kicking game and I think or

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Speaker 5: have a plan about what you're going to do. We

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Speaker 5: know the DNA of South Africa, when they get under pressure,

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Speaker 5: they're going to wait for penalty kick you to the corner,

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Speaker 5: do them more.

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Speaker 12: We know that.

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Speaker 5: I think under pressure, the biggest learning for the team

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Speaker 5: will be, Okay, what's going to happen when we start

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Speaker 5: getting behind because normally we do this to other size normally,

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Speaker 5: what happens when we see a crack bomb? You know,

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Speaker 5: we'll put forty points on people, but you know thirty

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Speaker 5: odd unanswered points is you need to look at everything.

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Speaker 5: You need to have a really serious look at Okay,

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Speaker 5: there's not one thing that we need to work on.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem. So I think leadership, kicking game, under pressure.

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Speaker 5: What are we going to do when we're behind by

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Speaker 5: ten points? Which is a lot and a test match but.

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Speaker 2: A good competition though, isn't it. Everyone's beaten everybody.

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Speaker 5: How good and there's no reason to panic. We don't

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Speaker 5: need to panic. The South African side is an amazing side.

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Speaker 5: They've been changing the team a lot. I thought they

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Speaker 5: got the balance right on the weekend. Australia continues to improve,

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Speaker 5: but it's still all to be won and that's what

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Speaker 5: we want. You know, we can't always think about rugby

845
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Speaker 5: and us dominating and that hasn't happened for a few years.

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Speaker 5: But it's a great competition and that's what we want.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's everything to play. We've still got another

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Speaker 5: game at Eton Park against the improving Australia side, so

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Speaker 5: she's all to playful good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Nice to catch up to John coowin Wethers Mike, don't

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Speaker 2: forget South Africa conceded thirty eight points without reply against

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Speaker 2: Australia just a few weeks ago. That's my point. Look

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Speaker 2: at the competition, it's fantastic. We're not done with sport.

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Speaker 2: By the way, word on Noe Lean shortly seven.

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00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't the first coach to be badly treated,

885
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: of course, but she might actually be the most successful

886
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: and well regarded and sport I was thinking to himself

887
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: over the week. It's funny old thing, isn't it These

888
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: days and these it sort of seems to want to

889
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: walk a line between being successful and being modern or

890
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: dare I suggest the word woke. See last week when

891
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: reports of players feeling unsafe emerged, I didn't even know

892
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: what that actually meant. Unsafe to me anyway, Unsafe for

893
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: something that might happen in the dark in an alley.

894
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: It's a physical danger thing as opposed to an emotional

895
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: state on a court. On a court, you can be

896
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: exhausted or exhilarated, or furious or related. I just can't

897
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: work out how you are unsafe, which in part is

898
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: the problem. I think it's an invention or a new

899
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: derivation of the word. Your environment has been interfered with,

900
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: even if you accept its new usage. It's the sort

901
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: of thing you might find on a university campus among

902
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: the angsty. On a sport field or a court, it's

903
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: got no place, even less so if that court is

904
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: at the elite level. I mean cycling had a horrible

905
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: time if you're a member that but that was abuse?

906
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: Is Netbull talking about abuse? Does Tarua abuse people? That

907
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be the suggestion. Next problem is the

908
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: lack of clarity, if not honesty. All reports seem to

909
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: indicate unsafe is code for the coach being a bit

910
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: old fashioned, demanding high standards, not putting up with slackness.

911
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: See we used toll like that approach. That approach was

912
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: the norm. The only purpose of elite sport, if you

913
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: think about it, the only purpose is victory. It exists

914
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: for no other reason than to let a chosen few

915
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: express themselves in a way where they win and others

916
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: can piggyback by way of television licensing or ticket sales

917
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: or just being a fan. Unless Nolan Tarua has had

918
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: a personality transformation and they're all wandering around netball in

919
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: New Zealand going, oh, what happened to noles? Man? That

920
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Knowles has changed, hasn't she? Which I suspect hasn't happened.

921
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Then what we are left with is the inescapable conclusion

922
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: that Tarua is the victim of soft management in a

923
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: world where every cry baby is heard, and the ultimate victim.

924
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Irony of Ironies is one of the best and one

925
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: of the sort's greatest ever exponents. She has benched while

926
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: the woke in the boardroom wrecked the National Women's Sport

927
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: Hosking inspired by your comments, Mike, recently we went to

928
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: christ Church of the weekend. Wow, it's special friendly good

929
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: housing options and tick so many boxes. Forget boxes, Forget Auckland.

930
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 2: We're seriously moving. That's good to hear, very good piece

931
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: and you must read it if you missed it. Over

932
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: the week in Mitchell Hageman wrote how christ Church became

933
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: the most liveable city in New Zealand. And here are

934
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Speaker 2: some stats. I'm not even sure. No one's followed the

935
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: christ Church story more than a Christchurch story more than me,

936
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: but I'm not even sure I knew these numbers. More

937
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: than forty two thousand people have moved to Canterbury from

938
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Speaker 2: the North Island since twenty eighteen. Forty two thousand. That's

939
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: a virtually a city. A city's moved to a city.

940
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: Seventeen thousand people have been living in Auckland alone have

941
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Speaker 2: moved to christ Church since twenty eighteen, fifteen to twenty

942
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: four year olds. That population has grown by six percent

943
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: since the last census, so the young people. Again, it's

944
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: a lot of university action there. I know that from

945
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: personal experience, a lot of people going to university and

946
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: deliberately choosing Canterbury University growing quite quickly in terms of

947
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: businesses as well as startups, and then it worked through

948
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: the whole article worked through the cost of housing, the

949
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: opportunities for business and jobs, and the weather and all

950
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. But worst they seemed to say

951
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: they found somebody who had their windows broken twice in

952
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: their car. It was just the one person that had

953
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: their windows broken twice, and so that was about as

954
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: bad as they could but they had to try to

955
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Speaker 2: balance out.

956
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Speaker 23: That is pretty unlucky.

957
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: That is pretty unlucky. I thought it was more unlucky

958
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 2: than a reflection on christ Juts, but I might be wrong.

959
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: But anyway, look that up and read it. It'll lift

960
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: the mood of the day.

961
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Speaker 21: Chris luckson next New Zealand's home for trusted news and views,

962
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Speaker 21: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all

963
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Speaker 21: your real estate needs news togs had been.

964
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Speaker 2: Forty three minutes away from as Monday morning, Prime Minister

965
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: Christopher Luxan is back in the country and as with us,

966
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: good morning, we might. I don't know if it's the

967
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: change in media or the amount of coverage that's done,

968
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: but your Pacific Islands Forum didn't seem to get a

969
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: lot of coverage last week. Before you know, you're out

970
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: of the country for several days, So just just a

971
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: quick one. Was China a major and did anything material

972
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: apart from that happen.

973
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Speaker 16: Yeah.

974
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Speaker 20: Look, I mean what we're trying to do with the

975
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Speaker 20: Pacific Islands is about eighteen countries and that grouping. We

976
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 20: want to make sure that there's what's called Pacific regionalism,

977
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Speaker 20: that the Pacific countries deal with their challenges and opportunities

978
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 20: as a group. Small countries are developing countries. The more

979
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 20: they can come together and project a Pacific Island's viewpoint

980
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 20: into the world. No different from what we see in

981
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Speaker 20: uscr and, which is the Southeast Asian economies. But for US,

982
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 20: you know, we had good conversations, for example on transnational

983
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 20: organized crime. You know huge if you think about tongsm Fiji,

984
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 20: Australia and New Zealand being really impacted by global myth trade,

985
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 20: particularly with Mexican cartels and so in North American organized crime.

986
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 20: And so you know, those are the kind of conversations

987
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 20: we got into, which is.

988
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: What sort of card were you driven around? Because I

989
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: read last week that the Chinese had given them a

990
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: lot of cars, and Australia, upon seeing the Chinese had

991
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: given them a lot of cars, gave them even more cars.

992
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 20: Al, really it was a great wall, great wall China, Chinese,

993
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 20: you were like or some of that. Well, so you

994
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 20: were bugked definitely, and I.

995
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: Think got that.

996
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: The couple of random questions. A claim last week that

997
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: we're a couple of weeks away from signing an FTA

998
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: with India, true or not.

999
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 20: I think it will be longer than that. We've said

1000
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 20: we'll do it in this term. We've got our third

1001
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 20: round of in person negotiations going down this week so

1002
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 20: that the Indian team are here. We're making progress, but

1003
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 20: as I've said, we will try. And you know, the

1004
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 20: Indians are hard negotiators and so yes, their trade minister

1005
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 20: has has artic letters all those comments as well.

1006
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: That's great.

1007
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 20: You know the fact that they've got a tension, that

1008
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 20: they're engaged, well, it's just I mean we've we've actually

1009
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 20: both promised to Modia and I and our trade ministers

1010
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 20: you know, talk very positively and our visit about we

1011
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 20: want to do this deal. We want to make it happen,

1012
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 20: and it requires attention. And the fact that the Indians

1013
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 20: are giving us attention when they've got everyone coming to

1014
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 20: their door wanting to do an FTA is a really

1015
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 20: good thing. So look, it'll take It'll take as long

1016
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 20: as that needs to take. But we're making progress. But

1017
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 20: you know, we've got a third round. As I said

1018
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 20: in person this.

1019
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: Week, Audrey Young seems to suggesce Palestine's on the agenda

1020
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: today at cabinet.

1021
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 20: Is it well again, we've said we've got conversations going

1022
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 20: on around the issue, but it's a pretty complex issue.

1023
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 20: It's important that we form our own view on it.

1024
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 20: You know, in New Zealand you've seen protests over the weekend.

1025
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 20: There's a range of views about whether recognition is appropriate

1026
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 20: or not appropriate. We've always said when, not if, but

1027
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 20: we will make our own decision.

1028
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: It's not happening today, in other word, no when.

1029
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 20: Some will have more to say about that in the

1030
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 20: coming weeks.

1031
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: Okay, do you know, speaking of protests, do you know

1032
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: the rule like literally, who decides in this country to

1033
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: close the bridge when people want to walk across it

1034
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: in protest?

1035
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1036
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 20: Look, I think that's an n ZTA decision.

1037
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: But do you know the person in there and why

1038
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: are they to do that? Don't but why are they

1039
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: allowed to do that? Well, I don't know, but that's

1040
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: the decision. You mean, are you're the prime minister of

1041
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: this country. Don't you want to know? I mean as

1042
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: a person apart from anything it was in Auckland. How

1043
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: is it that somebody goes, oh, yeah, we just close

1044
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: a bridge.

1045
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, we'll a huge inconvenience to people right

1046
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 20: trying to get their kids around Saturday sport or often

1047
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 20: what they're trying to do with their partners over the

1048
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 20: weekend and their downtime. So it's a massive inconvenience of

1049
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 20: you know, my personal view is that INCCIA should think

1050
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 20: really deeply.

1051
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: About those are the rules. There was a place where.

1052
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 20: Protests happened, and as it turned out, I think the

1053
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 20: bridge was shut down because of wind and as a

1054
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 20: result people protested in the city here and that was fine.

1055
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: Should there be something done about that? But if we

1056
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 2: can't trust the nc TA and the police to make

1057
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: sensible decisions so the rest of the world can actually

1058
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: get about their business, should you step and go here

1059
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: are some rules that you need to adhere to.

1060
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, we can have a look at it, but I

1061
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 20: think you know, there's enough other places that people can protest,

1062
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 20: and we want people to be able to feel free

1063
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 20: to do so. Now they completely You know, we want

1064
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 20: that in our society, but you know, on this particular issue,

1065
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 20: as you know, there's deep seated feelings on all sites.

1066
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: Yes, there is fun aura. This was a tapunakokar. This

1067
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: was a classic Friday story. So that investigation into the

1068
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: funding and whether it was across the line or not

1069
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: came back with something I couldn't quite understand. It might

1070
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: have burned, it might not have been. Was the scope

1071
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: in the investigation too wide? So in other words, what

1072
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: you're saying is fine or are therefully the betterment of Maori?

1073
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: Therefore you can basically spend your money on whatever you want.

1074
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 20: Now, what happened here was there was some pretty serious allegations.

1075
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 20: Tpk undertook a review. That review came back and said, look,

1076
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 20: there wasn't evidence of any wrongdoing. Having said that, there

1077
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 20: was opportunities for us to do much better than we

1078
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 20: had historically been doing. There's three things that have been

1079
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 20: going on. It wouldn't you like it wouldn't surprise you.

1080
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Speaker 20: We get to government and labor were very focused on

1081
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 20: how much money they spend rather than the outcomes they deliver.

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Speaker 20: So there's not a lot of oversight around outcomes, So

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Speaker 20: we're making sure that everything's in contracts actually with clauses

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Speaker 20: now that are focused on outcomes managing perceived or real

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Speaker 20: conflicts of interest. The second thing was that none of

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Speaker 20: those providers, the foref or providers, have been retended in

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Speaker 20: twelve years. That just from a commercial practice point of view,

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Speaker 20: that's not good. So we've retended and none of the

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Speaker 20: current providers have come through that retendering.

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Speaker 2: Press and have they not come through it because they

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Speaker 2: weren't playing the game.

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Speaker 20: According to about value for money and saying we want

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Speaker 20: to buy these outcomes and we're going to work with

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Speaker 20: these organizations and we're going to pay you some money

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Speaker 20: to deliver this outcome, because that's all I'm interested in,

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Speaker 20: this outcome, So how we get them I'm less hung

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Speaker 20: up on. But when we're going to spend government money

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Speaker 20: and social services, it's not surprising to you that you'd

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Speaker 20: imagine it's been pretty loose, and so.

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Speaker 2: You would argue this reporter's retrospective of what was going

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Speaker 2: on as opposed to what is going on or not.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think my point is I still think there's

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Speaker 20: a lot more that government needs to do, infinitely better

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Speaker 20: around the procurement, either of social services or procurement in general. Right,

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Speaker 20: And so one of those things is you should have

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Speaker 20: regular retendering processes for long term contracts. You should make

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Speaker 20: sure that the contracts that you sign with them actually

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Speaker 20: have clauses in those contracts, like a good commercial one

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Speaker 20: about delivery, about outcomes. And the third thing is, you know,

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Speaker 20: this threw up quite a good question, which I know

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Speaker 20: that you know, Brian Roach will look at which is

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Speaker 20: around you know, what is the appropriate use of surpluses

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Speaker 20: organizations and let's get some real clear guidance.

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Speaker 2: I ended up in court Tamma Herey sued me for

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Speaker 2: this exact thing, and I maintained to this day I

1116
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Speaker 2: was right, despite the fact we lost the court case.

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Speaker 2: But that's a story for another day. What happens is

1118
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: they get money and they have some money left over.

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Speaker 2: They then put the money in the bank and they

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Speaker 2: collect the interest. And no one could in this particular

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Speaker 2: report answer that question. No, so one of the arists

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Speaker 2: is that still part of it or one.

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Speaker 20: Of the ads. That's what I asked the PSC is

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Speaker 20: going to look at in the Parliamentary's Service Commissioner, because

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Speaker 20: that needs really clear guidance you know as to all those. Now,

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Speaker 20: let's be clear. I mean we contract for a bunch

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Speaker 20: of things. You might buy Air New Zealand tickets as

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Speaker 20: a government you know, for example, Air New Zealand will

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Speaker 20: make a profit off the back of that, as you

1130
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 20: would reasonably expect. Right, we're buying services and so you

1131
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 20: know as to but exactly in this space, what we

1132
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 20: just wanted some really clear guidelines and guidance around how

1133
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 20: surpluses are to be used or not to be used.

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Speaker 2: Right, so and Brian, Sobri will if they weren't attend

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Speaker 2: it for five million dollars and I do it for

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Speaker 2: three million, seven hundred thousand dollars, do I get to

1137
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Speaker 2: pocket the rest?

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Speaker 20: And that's just on you because we agreed to a

1139
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 20: price or not. That's the thing I want clarity on.

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Speaker 20: That's what I've asked.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's your view though, Well, I.

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Speaker 20: Mean we want to make well, there'll be an organization,

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Speaker 20: as I said, of commercial or nonprofit, you know, if

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Speaker 20: they can deliver value for money within the budget that

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Speaker 20: we've been prepared to pay for in order to secure

1146
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Speaker 20: the outcomes. If they deliver the outcomes, that's what I'm

1147
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 20: interested in now as to but again how much is

1148
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 20: appropriate exactly what it can or can't be used for.

1149
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 20: I think some definition around that would be very helpful.

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00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 20: So one is new contracts, new providers, and three someome

1151
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 20: advice on the on surpluses.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading about fast track, which isn't fast track. Just

1153
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: three projects have reached in principal decisions after eight months.

1154
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: Is that a fast track or is that a slow track?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 20: I think you think. You know, there's some tweaks that

1157
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 20: we're going to need to do to it, and you know,

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00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 20: as part of supermarkets work, there's also sort of an

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00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 20: accompanying pit around the bits that we've you know, Shane

1160
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 20: Jones and Chris Bishop have learnt through engaging on the

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Speaker 20: fast track as to what we need to do differently

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Speaker 20: or better to speed that up.

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Speaker 2: What are they going to do because I mean there's

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty nine in the queue that have

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Speaker 2: been given the tick to be a FIES.

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Speaker 20: Some of those haven't actually, you know, so we put

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Speaker 20: one hundred and forty nine into the legislation, they still

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00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 20: have to put their project into the process and some

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00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 20: haven't haven't done that yet, so there's still it's not

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Speaker 20: like a one hundred and forty nine. We're there from

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Speaker 20: day one. They were ones that we said, look, we'd

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Speaker 20: really like these guys to submit for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 20: They may not be ready, they may not have their fight.

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Speaker 2: You still only ticked one off, which was your much

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Speaker 2: trumpet at Auckland port. Yeah, which is good, which is

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Speaker 2: good for one's good? How about eight?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, we've got another that will probably emerge before Christmas,

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Speaker 20: which is another eight.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have nine before Christmas. So you're still saying

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Speaker 2: fast track is fast track?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well it's better than what we've been doing. I

1182
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Speaker 20: mean when when you know, my advisors would say to

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Speaker 20: me that that port decision out of Auckland would have

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Speaker 20: taken five years under the old RMA, it took six

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Speaker 20: months under fast track. Your point, it's a fair one,

1186
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Speaker 20: which is that having put this thing together, we shouldn't

1187
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Speaker 20: be so arrogant to say it's a set and forget process.

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Speaker 20: If we think that there are irritants and frustrations and

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Speaker 20: impediments that actually should be removed, let's go remove them. Okay,

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Speaker 20: So there will be some some more changes.

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Speaker 2: Just real quick. The events thing you made yesterday, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of feedback this morning, and we had Britt

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Speaker 2: Eckles on what is it apart from just a subsidy

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Speaker 2: to get somebody like Taylor Swift here, because even Eckles

1195
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: says it's just she'll end up with the dough.

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Speaker 20: Now, look, I think there's sort of three things going on.

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Speaker 20: One is on the infrastructure side. I think actually Aukin

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Speaker 20: is going to come together pretty well. You look at

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Speaker 20: the airport, you look at the transport links, you start

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Speaker 20: to look at the convention center. I think, you know,

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Speaker 20: if we could liberate Mount eden Eden Park to sort

1202
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Speaker 20: of get more stuff happening there, I think that would

1203
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,959
Speaker 20: all be quite good stuff. We put the money together

1204
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Speaker 20: because we benchmarked ourselves against Queensland. Brisbane's is a similar

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Speaker 20: size city to Auckland, and we know that we want

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Speaker 20: to be competitive and what we did fifteen years ago

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Speaker 20: isn't probably relevant to today. And I also think, quite frankly,

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Speaker 20: as you and I've took before, I think there's a

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Speaker 20: lot of some work that we can do looking at

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00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 20: once you get these events coming here. If you want

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Speaker 20: to get a big NURL event here, for example, and

1212
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Speaker 20: you might have to deal with TV rights, or you

1213
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Speaker 20: might have to deal with a different on a Sunday

1214
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Speaker 20: or whatever it is. There's a lot of madness going

1215
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Speaker 20: on across some of the constraints that the venues are

1216
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 20: actually having to work to as well. So if we

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Speaker 20: can get rid of some of that stuff and make

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Speaker 20: it easier for things to happen, that'd be a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Good to see. Christ of a Luxom thirteenth

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Speaker 2: to wait.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It be interesting, so slowly a couple of texts flying

1224
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Speaker 2: in the background in the office. Apparently ms the TA

1225
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Speaker 2: said no or the council said no. This is the

1226
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Speaker 2: protest over the bridge. The police said yes, and if

1227
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Speaker 2: the police say yes, you got to go with it.

1228
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Speaker 2: And the police said yes apparently to keep the peace.

1229
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Speaker 2: So there are more questions to be answered there. Mike's

1230
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Speaker 2: great to have such transparency from the Pyra Midster he

1231
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: fronts up just in the head from my show now

1232
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: hids from the COVID inquiry. Who do you trust the

1233
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: person who fronts up and is accountable or not? Mike,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Tama here. When the hell are they going

1235
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: to complete the report and release it? On the way

1236
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Speaker 2: Perreira Trust and the taxpayers money that's in front of

1237
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 2: these serious for all that goes back to the election,

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Speaker 2: of course, the by election. With the election at the time,

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Speaker 2: what then became a by election. Of course Luxon should

1240
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: get tough on passing law to stop protesters closing roads. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think what we got out of that is that

1242
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Speaker 2: they rely, of course on agencies like the police, like

1243
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Speaker 2: the NSITTA, and maybe needs somebody needs to stop it

1244
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: and provide a little bit clearer something, a little bit

1245
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: clearer by way of guidance. But do let me come

1246
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Speaker 2: back to this to Punacokerey thing in just a couple

1247
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: of moments and what was released on Friday, The guy

1248
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Speaker 2: who did the review, Doug Craig, director of Ardis C

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Speaker 2: Group Consultancy, and they were ending up. His report was

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Speaker 2: read and Punacochery basically said it was at least arguable,

1251
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: at least arguable the advertising campaign was within the purposes

1252
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: of the FUNA or outcomes framework. But more on that,

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Speaker 2: just a couple of moments eight away from it.

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Speaker 1: The my Cosking breakfast with rainthrow bern Us togs dead

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Speaker 1: b right.

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Speaker 2: So the at least arguable the advertising campaign was within

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Speaker 2: the purposes of the FARNA or outcomes framework as several

1258
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Speaker 2: or five. This refers to tama et and for the

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Speaker 2: enrollment on the Maori roll. Ultimately they suggested it probably

1260
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: went a bit too far. It was within arguably the framework,

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Speaker 2: but it probably went a bit too far. This was

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Speaker 2: Doug Craig, director of the RDC Group consultancy who did

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Speaker 2: the report. The interesting aspect of it, it was not

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00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: possible to form a quote unquote definitive view. The reviewer

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Speaker 2: said it did not believe TMP was entitled to invest

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Speaker 2: FARNA or a funds, keep the money at accrued and

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Speaker 2: then use it for purposes outside the scope of the

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Speaker 2: FARNA or a fraewerk. Now what they're referring to there

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Speaker 2: is when you collect your money, you do whatever it

1270
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Speaker 2: is you contracted to do, and you got some leftover,

1271
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Speaker 2: you put it in the bank and then you earn interest.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing with the interest? And no one

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00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: can answer that question. And that then goes back to

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Speaker 2: the scope of the original investigation. And if the scope

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Speaker 2: of the original investigation was a bit loose, which I

1276
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Speaker 2: think it was, and that is that if you're handing

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Speaker 2: out money to these agencies just for once again, quote

1278
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Speaker 2: unquote the betterment of Mari. Where does that start and

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00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: where does that stop? And given it doesn't start or

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00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: stop anywhere, it's open to clearly an extraordinary amount of interpretation. Technically,

1281
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: nobody clearly did anything wrong. But then again you've got

1282
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: to ask the question, just how loose do you want

1283
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: the expenditure? Do you take the Prime Minister's explanation that

1284
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Speaker 2: they're tightening it up, they're on to it, they get it,

1285
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Speaker 2: or is there more where that came from. It's interesting,

1286
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: isn't it? But that was another classic Friday story, hoping

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Speaker 2: never to be heard from again. Now we've got the sport,

1288
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Speaker 2: we got the rugby. I've already alluded to the Ranfilly Shield,

1289
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Speaker 2: and I've alluded to the Warriors, and of course we've

1290
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: ansted it over the All Blacks. But there are other

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Speaker 2: things to do. It's a very very good story that

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Speaker 2: once again I don't think got enough coverage. Tom Walsh

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Speaker 2: and Hamish Kur have got together and they've set up

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Speaker 2: a fund to help young athletes get to championships and

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Speaker 2: do some travel and subsidize their plights. So we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that as well after the news which is next to.

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Speaker 3: You, hitting me a gender and talking the big issues.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida Retirement, Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way, News, Talk s head.

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Speaker 3: Be sp rum is no wrong, no ron come in

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Speaker 3: the mind.

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Speaker 16: Pants, He coo to Auckland and I've told me why

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Speaker 16: they are the back to back to back to back champions.

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Speaker 16: I have beta the Warriors hair in Auckland twenty four

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Speaker 16: points to White.

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Speaker 24: And a thoroughly embarrassing knight for the All Blacks, but

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Speaker 24: a wonderful night pus down a frock up. They have

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Speaker 24: demolished the All Blacks. They have umailigated the All Black

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Speaker 24: forty three.

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Speaker 7: Team second half excellence in Exeter.

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Speaker 2: What's more, the.

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Speaker 16: Blackbirds semifinal bound at the Rugby.

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Speaker 1: World Cup Final School generates twenty nine Tasman twenty five.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Jason By and andrews Ella Weather's Good Morning, Good Mike

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Speaker 2: sad the Ranfurley shield I discovered purely by accident and

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Speaker 2: though that last five minutes and overyone was talking about

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Speaker 2: the all blacks and stuff. But I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: ever want to see Heartland Rugby at its finest twenty

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01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: five phases, they got the ball at minute seventy eight

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Speaker 2: and they just went bang bang bang bang bang bang

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Speaker 2: bat until they scored and they won. It was brilliant.

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Speaker 15: It was great sporting theater, like a lot of the

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Speaker 15: games over the weekend might. But to have the confidence

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Speaker 15: or to have the where was all to go through

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Speaker 15: that many phases and for Tasman also might not to

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Speaker 15: give a penalty away and imagine the refree didn't want

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Speaker 15: the games in by a penalty, yeah, or fifty to

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Speaker 15: fifty call, which was good. But to have the confidence

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Speaker 15: to keep driving away and that was to retain the

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Speaker 15: Shield in their first defense. Yeah, brilliant finish, great, great

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Speaker 15: for great for Shield Rugby.

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Speaker 2: I know you were busy over the week in Jason,

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Speaker 2: did you happen to see them?

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Speaker 10: I did, Yes, I did.

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Speaker 25: I watched the end of it and was yeah, I

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Speaker 25: mean I wanted Tasman to win because I wanted the

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Speaker 25: Shield to change hands again.

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Speaker 2: I like it for a week mate, turn yourself down.

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Speaker 25: I know, but but I but I you know, and

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01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 25: so did so did Southland and I think White cut

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 25: the same. So yeah, I would have quite liked Tasman

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 25: to have taken it back up north. But no, you

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 25: can't deny Canterbury's resilience.

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Speaker 10: At the end.

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Speaker 25: They're clearly the best team in the MPC. What I

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01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 25: seven from seven now, so yeah, I got on them

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Speaker 25: as far as the.

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Speaker 15: That's that's a stacked Tasman team as well, Mike. There's

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Speaker 15: a lot of big names in the Tasman team. That's

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Speaker 15: almost a full ship of rugby sides.

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you what. The one player stood out to

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Speaker 10: me was less of fighting a nuku And I.

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Speaker 15: Know NPC is different to Test football, but you'd have

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Speaker 15: to think he'd come into consideration for the Wallabies test

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Speaker 15: surely in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: What I'm enjoying, sav is this. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: we lost, and we lost badly, and I get all that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just over sort of spending six days in a

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Speaker 2: row angsting about it all. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: this is a good competition where we've got four genuinely

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Speaker 2: good sides. Whereas once you would have gone well, Argentina

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Speaker 2: run up to much and probably Australia are bit useless

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Speaker 2: as well. Suddenly it's a proper competition and that's to

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Speaker 2: be celebrated, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, you can't have it both ways. For years and

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Speaker 15: years this competition would have already been decided, or it

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Speaker 15: was going to be decided between the All Blacks and

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Speaker 15: spring Box and the last couple of test matches. Right,

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Speaker 15: So the waller Beats are way down the bottom as

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Speaker 15: per and the Argentinians will always finished bottom as well.

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Speaker 15: But for all the teams to have two wins two losses, yeah,

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Speaker 15: great for the competition.

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Speaker 10: Although and yes, the spring Box.

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Speaker 15: Well beaten at Ours Parked a few weeks ago, didn't

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Speaker 15: they somehow bounce back against the woeful All Black team

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Speaker 15: in that second half on Saturday Night? There are some

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Speaker 15: real issues, Mike, I think in that All Black team.

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Speaker 15: You don't want to get angsty about it, yes, you

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01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 15: don't want to panic, but they keep making the same mistakes.

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Speaker 15: All Black scrumm a year ago was a weapon that's

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Speaker 15: gone now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, are you? I mean you did, Jason?

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Speaker 2: I mean do we? Is there a mentality there, Jason,

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Speaker 2: where we we still expect to win every time in

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: a world where it's just it just doesn't happen that

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Speaker 2: way anymore.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 25: I look, but I also think that we can accept

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Speaker 25: that we were we were. We can accept when we're

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Speaker 25: beaten by a better side. And look, South Africa, they

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Speaker 25: were anybody in the world absolutely brilliant. On said that

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Speaker 25: second forty as good as a forty minutes I've seen

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Speaker 25: from any team coming to New Zealand ever, So we

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Speaker 25: can say, yep, we were beaten by the better side.

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Speaker 25: But I think that what's got people gnashing their teeth

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Speaker 25: a bit is the manner of the defeat in the

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Speaker 25: second half and the capitulation really, which is the only

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Speaker 25: way you can describe at thirty six unanswered points. You know,

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01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 25: all Black teams in the past have been beaten by

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01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 25: better sides, but they they haven't rolled over in the

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Speaker 25: fashion that the All Blacks did.

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Speaker 10: Rather worryingly, Yeah, well is.

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Speaker 2: It worrying in the sense that we were sort of

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Speaker 2: we weren't angsting to the same level Andrew. But but

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Speaker 2: when we got beaten by the Argies with it onto

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Speaker 2: other records on the line at the Garden of Eden,

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Speaker 2: and then we come out and it's just one for

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Speaker 2: the Ages.

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Speaker 15: And that was that was they were mentally up Forreedom Park.

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Speaker 15: Clearly the Eden Park record Artie save as one hundreds.

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Speaker 10: They were hunt for it.

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Speaker 15: First half they looked the cane and then second half

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Speaker 15: fell apart.

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Speaker 12: I don't know what it is that this team seems

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Speaker 12: to be going.

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Speaker 10: At a half time and then coming out.

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Speaker 15: Even more confused than the first half. The coaches have

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01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 15: got some real heavy lifting to do. The aerial game

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Speaker 15: hasn't proved at all. It's gone backwards. And why on

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Speaker 15: Earth in a game if the aerial game or the

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01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 15: box getting's not working for you, you're not getting the ball back?

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Speaker 10: Why carry on with it?

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Speaker 2: These are these are age old question. See, you guys

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: are much more in the weeds than I am. But

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Speaker 2: but it seems to me to be an age old

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: question that the All Blacks never seem to have a

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: plan B, or if they do have a plan B,

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: they never seemed to be able to execute it. And

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01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 2: that's been going on since Gris Wiley and I played

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 2: Pulled into Maru. But that's for another day. More and

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Speaker 2: more in a Moment thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 2: News Talks B sixteen Past Days.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: I'll come to the Warriors off. I get time, but

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Speaker 2: I don't want to run out of time for Noling

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Speaker 2: Taro or Jason. It's that there's something really wrong with

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01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: what's going on with her, isn't there?

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 25: Yep, failure at board level. Mike heard you comments earlier,

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 25: and I couldn't agree more. I think, you know, for

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01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 25: one of our greatest ever coaches, not just a neple

1449
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 25: but full stop, to have been treated in this fashion

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01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 25: and for this to have dragged on like this. Apparently

1451
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 25: it was first brought to the attention of the board

1452
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 25: earlier in the like, very early in the year, and

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01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 25: here we are in what September is We're about to

1454
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 25: embark on a very busy back end and this has

1455
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 25: suddenly come to light. Look, I I feel like if

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01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 25: Dame Nolen Todo has her coaching methods which have led

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01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 25: to the success that we've had, then yeah, sure she

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 25: can't be you know allowed to run rough shot over people.

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01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 25: But I feel as though you embrace her coaching methods.

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 10: That's that's my personal.

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Speaker 2: She's a known quantity. Do you agree said or not?

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01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 10: Yeah? I do.

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01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 15: I've heard Mike that it's there's a there's one particular

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 15: senior player who I don't think is in the squad

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01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 15: at the moment anyway, who has sort of been leading

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 15: the charge with a couple of others.

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Speaker 10: Not all of the players agree.

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01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 15: There's several players in the squad who will back Dame

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01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 15: Nole into the helt.

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Speaker 10: So you've got a bit of an issue there.

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Speaker 15: But you handle poorly the board and net boyin z

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 15: should be excuse me standing behind the coach rather than

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01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 15: just to select few players and look Dame Nolean, Yes,

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01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 15: old school, a hard ass if I can use it again,

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01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 15: but knows she's innovative as well. You've got to You've

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01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 15: got to. You've got to put that in the melt

1477
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 15: pot two. Mike, and the players know that. And if

1478
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 15: they can't, Hagey.

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Speaker 2: Then later couldn't agree more. I want the Warriors. I

1480
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: thought the game was good Jason the Warriors because it

1481
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 2: showed the gap between the Warriors and the top four,

1482
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: simple as that, and I think we're going to be

1483
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: any better. We need we need more players, better players,

1484
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: and improved generally.

1485
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 25: Well, Andrew Webster talked afterwards about the missing piece, and

1487
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 25: that's a bit vague. I know, I don't know whether

1488
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 25: it's it's different players or a search for this consistency

1489
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 25: that seems to have eluded them. You know, the Warriors

1490
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 25: were in the top four for most of the season

1491
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 25: until the back end, and then they kind of fell out,

1492
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 25: and that that's that's the problem. If you're outside the

1493
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 25: top four, unless you're Penrith, you're not going to advance

1494
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 25: too far. So yeah, I don't know what that missing

1495
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 25: piece is. Having said that, I think we said this

1496
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 25: couple of weeks ago, offer a home final two Warriors fans.

1497
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 25: At the start of the season, they would absolutely have

1498
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 25: taken it. But but after the after the being in

1499
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 25: the top four for so long this season, it was

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01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 25: it was a shame that had ended in the fashion

1501
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 25: that it did on.

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 10: We were only when they lost Mike, when they lost Mitch.

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01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 15: And Luke metcalf see that you reckon, Yeah, I know,

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 15: I know we have this debate you and I about

1505
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 15: injuries and all teams have injuries. Yes, but I heard

1506
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 15: Andrew Whips from with you the other day and he's

1507
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 15: very good, very very logical with his reasoning behind behind

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 15: injuries and those positions and injuries to those two players.

1509
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 15: Hey mate, what about the Broncos Raiders game. It's probably

1510
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 15: the best rugby league game. The eighty nine Grand Final

1511
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 15: will probably never be beat, but that was one of

1512
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 15: the great rugby league games of all time.

1513
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 3: Do either of.

1514
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: You guys know I agree, Do either of you guys

1515
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: know much about Ricky Hatton?

1516
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 10: Watched him as watched them years ago? Yep.

1517
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: I asked the question, is he retired? Well, he's died

1518
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: obviously I have not but but he retired at twenty

1519
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: four and he became a solar panel installer. So was

1520
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: there not a but he had won at least a

1521
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 2: couple of world titles. Is there no money in boxing

1522
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: at that level? Why is he retiring to be a

1523
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 2: solar panel in Stoller?

1524
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 15: I think he had contract and management issues. Yeah, and

1525
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 15: from memory, he did struggle for a number of years

1526
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 15: outside the boxing ring. Mike, great shame. He was an

1527
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 15: outstanding boxer on his day and yeah, great, great shame.

1528
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: Interesting because I'm reading about him a likable guy. People

1529
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: would line up in Vegas. They would line up the

1530
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: night before, twenty four hours in advance before away in

1531
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: far less the fight.

1532
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 15: He really started that that trend of Poms going over

1533
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 15: to Vegas and droves, you know before Tyson Fury, Linux

1534
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 15: Looks and Linux lewis similar.

1535
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 10: But Ricky Hatton, Yeah, he was very popular exactly.

1536
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: You read that article sab over the weekend about christ

1537
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: j Yeah, I did, Jesus, it makes you want to move,

1538
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 2: didn't it.

1539
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 10: It does? Shall we if you're there though?

1540
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'd on the other side of town, mate.

1541
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 10: See the problem, get in food.

1542
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 15: You'd get him first and snap up half the city

1543
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 15: and there'd be nothing left to me.

1544
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 2: What it said, Jason was it's the place to be.

1545
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: Do you have forty two thousand people have moved there

1546
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 2: from the North Island alone?

1547
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that's gonna.

1548
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: Get That's people, that's Eden.

1549
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 10: They're going to get.

1550
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 25: Yeah, they're going to get a lot of test rugby

1551
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 25: there over the next few years.

1552
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 10: Just on that too.

1553
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 25: The Wellington thing, I know, it was talked about a

1554
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 25: lot over the weekend that the All Blacks can't seem

1555
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 25: to want to test match in Wellington. That's well, but

1556
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 25: I get the feeling you know that that Wellington is

1557
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 25: gonna is gonna have to fight for test matches.

1558
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 10: Dunedin's going to get more.

1559
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 25: I think with the roof Christ it's going to get

1560
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 25: plenty of the biggest I wonder what Wellington are going

1561
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 25: to get in the in the few years ahead.

1562
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 15: Jason was just, hey, yes, I know, I know, I

1563
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 15: know n r L is different to Test match rugby.

1564
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 15: But if the All Blacks need a tip on how

1565
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 15: to manipulate defenses, how to use the ball, good point,

1566
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 15: how to get him behind rush defenses or fast defenses

1567
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 15: and get around teams. Watch the Brisbane Broncos in the

1568
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 15: last fifteen minutes or so of that game last night.

1569
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: Was very well said. Nice to see you guys, Jason

1570
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: Pin and Andrew Savale twenty.

1571
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1590
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Speaker 2: ran out of time. Tom Walsh Hamish Care alluded to

1591
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 2: it before eight o'clock this morning. So they see a

1592
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 2: critical funding gap. So they've got together and they've started

1593
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Speaker 2: the rt Roer Athletics Trust. So good on them. Three

1594
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 2: of the four inaugural recipients have been selected. The Hammerthrawer,

1595
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Speaker 2: Lauren Bruce, the javelin athletes, Tory Morby and the shop

1596
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 2: put to Nick Palmer, basically alleviates financial pressure, supplements the

1597
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: travel competition costs that sort of thing. It was independent,

1598
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: it was collaborative. It's athlete let So what a brilliant idea.

1599
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Speaker 2: That's good. A couple of good guys giving back Tom

1600
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Speaker 2: Walsh and Hamish cur.

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Speaker 23: Nothing for the snooker player of Medicana.

1602
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: Nothing for the snooker player Glenn of Matticana. Morning Mike

1603
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 2: watching the Cowboys play the Giants. It's only week two,

1604
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: but game of the season?

1605
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 12: Is it?

1606
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: The game of the season? Thirty seven all, by the way,

1607
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 2: thirty seven all, But it can't be the game of

1608
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: the seas because of the Giants. And the Giants, as

1609
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: we all know, are useless, and when the Cowboys struggle

1610
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: against a useless side, it's not a good season. The

1611
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys already lost last week. Do you know by the

1612
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 2: way NFL Chiefs play the Eagles today, Chiefs lost in

1613
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 2: week one, the Champions lost in week one. There's zero

1614
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: for one. It's entirely possible they'll lose today. They'll be

1615
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 2: zero for two. Super Bowl Champion zero for two. Who

1616
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: would have thought repentless? Isn't it us? In a couple

1617
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: of moments benn As Shanahan out of Australia for you.

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: After that, the Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in

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Speaker 1: the Know, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrover Leading by Example,

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Speaker 1: News Togs Dead b Now I have.

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Speaker 2: New statistics for you the median wage across various industries

1622
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: in this country. So in the last ten years, the

1623
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: median wage across New Zealand has risen from about sixty

1624
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars to nearly eighty and so Inframetrics have

1625
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: crunched the numbers, and so we've got data from Stats

1626
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand. So the mean and median income by and

1627
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: so top five are as follow as you need to

1628
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: be in coal, oil, gas, metal line or all of

1629
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Because the median wages one hundred

1630
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: and thirty one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars computer systems,

1631
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: design and related services. It's one twenty five exploration and

1632
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: other mining. So really that's two mining sort of jobs.

1633
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: In the top three hundred and twenty four auxiliary finance

1634
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: and insurance services. I don't know what auxiliary finances one

1635
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four and finance just generally, Well, you

1636
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 2: want to be an auxiliar because you earn one hundred

1637
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: and twenty fours and just plain old finance it's only

1638
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two. So the auxiliary is the

1639
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: extra two thousand dollars a year. So there you go.

1640
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: If you're not earning the money, that's where it is.

1641
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from.

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01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 18: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1643
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 18: mind for New Zealand business.

1644
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: Shater hands with it's out of Australia, body mate mate.

1645
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: So the new nuclear shipyard it was thirteen point four

1646
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: billion of your very fine dollars. Richard Miles made the announcement.

1647
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: So what is it you're doing with it?

1648
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 26: Well, this is a big question because obvious it's a

1649
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,520
Speaker 26: big step. It's a lot of money. It's been dedicated

1650
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 26: towards aucus. It's in Western Australia. Very important politically for

1651
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 26: Anthony albinat In Richard Marles, but it's all about trying

1652
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 26: to say Australia is spending much more on its defense.

1653
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 26: Richard Marles is as Deputy primission. Defense Minister is saying,

1654
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 26: this is putting our spending at two point eight percent

1655
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 26: of GDP, much more than than two percent, and getting

1656
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 26: towards the three point five that the US wants us

1657
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 26: to spend. But there's a lot of questions about this

1658
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 26: twelve vis in twelve fur envision. They're saying that it's

1659
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 26: actually a lot of it isn't going to go towards

1660
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 26: the submarines themselves, but a lot towards frigates and landing craft.

1661
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 26: That what the government is doing is making promises well

1662
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 26: off in the future. A lot of this spending actually

1663
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 26: occurs two terms later, so well beyond this term of government,

1664
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 26: and the critics are saying it's actually not increasing spending

1665
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 26: due to he spending at all. Now, this is very

1666
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 26: important trance now Alberanasi. He's trying to say we're spending

1667
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 26: a lot, and that he's expecting to meet Donald Trump

1668
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 26: probably next week, and he wants to be able to

1669
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 26: say we're spending all this money. He's also saying publicly, oh,

1670
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 26: this isn't just about Donald Trump. As well as that

1671
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 26: today the PM is going to PNG and they're going

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 26: to announce there and you'll treaty in Australian PMNG treaty

1673
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 26: on the fiftieth anniversary of the PNG independence, and effectively

1674
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 26: the Australian Defense Force and the P and Z Defense

1675
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 26: Forces will basically merge. We're going to be spending a

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 26: huge amount of money providing military assistance and arms to

1677
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 26: the pm Defense Force, but there will be this operability

1678
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 26: interoperability between the forces. And effectively they're drawing a parallel

1679
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 26: with saying this is like a NATO agreement and it's

1680
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 26: the first a real treaty on this military aspect since

1681
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 26: ANDUS in nineteen sixty one. So these are all big

1682
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 26: defense elements. The question is is the US going to say, well,

1683
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 26: that's enough and except that we're pulling our weight in

1684
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 26: the Pacific. As Anthony Albaneta.

1685
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: Says, let me just come back to the Trump meeting

1686
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: and just a couple of as regards P and G,

1687
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: how much of this is about China and sort of

1688
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: this activity in the Pacific to counteract Then it's all

1689
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: about China.

1690
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 26: Of course, what we've got is we've got problems on

1691
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 26: the Australian front line, as it were with the Solomon Islands.

1692
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 26: We've seen a huge influence in China. They're Australia trying

1693
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 26: to combat influence in the Solomons. We've got Chinese forces

1694
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 26: in the Solomons as police forcing and on the other

1695
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 26: side we've got Indonesia, which is far more ambivalent towards

1696
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 26: China than Australia would like. And so this is all

1697
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 26: about trying to build literally a military force on our

1698
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 26: border in the PNNG, which almost may get And this

1699
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,879
Speaker 26: is the question. Is this a trigger, a NATO style trigger,

1700
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 26: so that if the PNNG is involved, threatened or attacked,

1701
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 26: does that mean Australia is automatically involved in defending and

1702
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 26: in any.

1703
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: Conflict as regards Trump, is it locked in or not?

1704
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 26: Not yet, it looks to be getting more and more.

1705
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 26: The word from the back rooms is yes, it's going

1706
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 26: to go ahead. Richard Marles has made a trip to

1707
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 26: the US. He's been talking about to the US administer

1708
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 26: Creation all the time. Obviously they want they don't want

1709
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 26: to say there's going to be a meeting and then

1710
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 26: it not happen. That would be even more disastrous. So

1711
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 26: at this stage it looks like it is on, but

1712
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 26: they're not going to confirm it to the last minute.

1713
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: Now I'm interested in this poll this morning. I mean

1714
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: the two party preferred the still affairly but gap that

1715
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: both major parties are down a little bit in one

1716
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 2: nation is up. But and I guess you go into

1717
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: the by election over the weekend, the counter by election,

1718
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 2: which means very unusual for a government of the day

1719
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: to flip a seat, which is what they've done. They

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Speaker 2: seem to be kind of a honeymoon slash magic spell period.

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Speaker 26: Oh there is Look at the by election was a

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 26: state by election. It was a pretty messy one and

1723
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 26: so the State Labor Party has picked up a seat

1724
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 26: there for the complement, which is very good. But it's

1725
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 26: also indicative of the disaster that the Liberal Party is

1726
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 26: in across the nation at both state and federal level.

1727
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 26: And we're seeing real problems in Victoria, New South Wales,

1728
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 26: in Western Australia virtually non existent. And the Newspole has

1729
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 26: just reflected that sort of feeling of chaos right across

1730
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 26: the Liberal Party at all levels in Australia. And what

1731
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 26: we've seen the newspoll is at twenty seven percent, the

1732
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 26: coalition's primary support is the lowest in the history of Newspole.

1733
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 26: That's the lowest in it. It got down to thirty

1734
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 26: three percent once when after the government had introduced a

1735
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 26: new attax and the GST and people were almost rebelling.

1736
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 26: And so this is an indication of the big hit

1737
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 26: of the election. People just don't want to know about

1738
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 26: what's happening at the moment. They've said that's it, we've

1739
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 26: voted Laboring, we don't want to hear from you, and

1740
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 26: all they're hearing from the Liberals is chaos and in fighting.

1741
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 26: Susan Lay put in some new people on the weekends,

1742
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 26: is promoted to replace Jacenter Price. She's put in the

1743
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 26: Conservative woman to replace the loss of the Conservative onom

1744
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 26: and tried to promote a couple of other women because

1745
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 26: ironically she was being criticized for getting read of women

1746
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 26: from the front bench and so she's tried to change

1747
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:27,440
Speaker 26: things for these figures show that there's it's almost an

1748
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 26: impossible task.

1749
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: Away as a pleasure make. We'll catch up Wednesday. Appreciate

1750
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: it very much. Dennis Shanahan out of Australia for US

1751
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 2: this morning. Just on those Labour's Prime has gone from

1752
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: thirty seven to thirty five, Coalition twenty nine to twenty seven.

1753
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: It's all gone to one nation. One nation has gone

1754
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: from nine to twelve. Other parties Greens, one Nation, Independence

1755
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: have increased four points. Over All, the Greens are down

1756
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: a smidge and the Independence are up to nine percent

1757
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 2: eight forty five.

1758
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,320
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Speaker 2: I was just watching, by the way, the cow always

1761
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: got up over the Giants. Not that you care, but

1762
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: I do. I mean, you're going to win, you might

1763
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: as well win forty to thirty seven. The Rams won,

1764
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: so I'm excited about the Rams. I followed the Rams.

1765
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: Did you have a favorite one team?

1766
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 23: Yeah, La, I was going to say, because if it

1767
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 23: was the Cowboys, they are of the warriors.

1768
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 2: Of very similar really very very similar.

1769
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 23: Always promised so much at various tides throughout the season, never.

1770
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: Quite we're really quite, never quite delivered. I was looking

1771
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 2: up funnily enough, this morning, la are playing Detroit. Once

1772
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: I go on holiday in December, la are playing Detroit

1773
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and I thought that'd be a nice

1774
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: Christmas gift, would go to Sofi Stadium. And I was

1775
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: looking up packages, and you's a lot of money to

1776
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: go to the football. But it's unlimited beer, wine and

1777
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 2: soft drinks as part of the packages and food.

1778
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 23: Did do you think you'd still get in these days

1779
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 23: after all the mean things you've said quite publicly about

1780
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 23: certain my ranking.

1781
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: None of it's on social media official, I'm not on

1782
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: social media. They'd scream a thing at the phone, they'd go,

1783
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 2: how come there's nothing in this phone? Mike the protest.

1784
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,799
Speaker 2: I'd love numbers. Don't you love numbers? Mike? The protests?

1785
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 2: Ten to twenty thousand people? Take a look at the photos?

1786
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: Two thousand, Max, Do you count them all? Another one

1787
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: texted me earlier on said he put it into jet

1788
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: GBT and it came up with whatever it was, two

1789
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: thousand Mike. Millions march in the UK. Nothing in the news,

1790
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 2: millions rupped in millions, No mention of the protest, Mike.

1791
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 2: Three million people in England? Three million? Any serious? There

1792
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: weren't three million people match.

1793
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 23: So there was Tommy Ronson himself saying claiming the three million.

1794
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: Probably all his fellow tin hatters are going as I

1795
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: reckon now, as nineteen million people worked at.

1796
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 23: I actually have never really thought that mathematics was his

1797
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 23: strong point.

1798
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: Probably there were a lot of people they don't get

1799
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: me wrong, but there were not three million people. Good news.

1800
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: By the way, Origin are they're going to fly a

1801
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 2: couple of new routes, so don't tell me that regional

1802
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 2: air and this may well have come out of the

1803
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 2: government announcement the other day, let's hope.

1804
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 5: So.

1805
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: But anyway, Origine a couple of new roots. So they're

1806
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 2: going to go blenh And christ Church and they're going

1807
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 2: to go Blenham Palmerston North. They're using their eighteen seater

1808
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: for that, so a couple of new routes are filling

1809
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: a gap there. So that's good. And I note also,

1810
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: and I haven't been on Fiji Airways for absolutely ever,

1811
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: but the main reason I haven is last time I

1812
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 2: flew them, they were shocking. In fact, I didn't know

1813
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: how shocking. But they were once ranked one hundred and

1814
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: fifth in the world, which is right down there. That

1815
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: was the they were a three star airline. Skytracks had

1816
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: them at one hundred and fifth in the world. Service

1817
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: was poor, their fleet was old and anyway, so if

1818
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: you go to Fiji you avoided FIGI ways these days.

1819
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: They won the APEX World Class Airline of the Year award,

1820
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: which puts them into the top ten airlines in the world.

1821
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: Good Old Fiji, so well done them nine to nine.

1822
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Speaker 2: dot co dot in z asking what a surprise I

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Speaker 2: read this morning. That's Stilantis, who are a major car

1846
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: manufacturer that do all sorts of interesting things, from Maserati

1847
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 2: orfer Romeo to the Ram. They've an outsdover the weekend.

1848
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: They're no longer developing their full size RAM fifteen, very

1849
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: popular care in this particular country. The Ram fifteen, you know,

1850
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 2: the big truck. They were doing a full size electric

1851
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 2: version and guess what they decided They're not going to

1852
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: do it anymore. They're reassessing quote unquote, they're reassessing its

1853
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Speaker 2: product strategy and will discontinue development of the full size bed.

1854
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: Do you know why? Because no one wants one? Five

1855
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 2: away from.

1856
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with chameless Warehouse are praying invited would

1857
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: sail on now?

1858
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's happened again, hasn't happened for a while actually,

1859
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: and I thought I'd curtailed it. But for the final

1860
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 2: time the season, indeed for the whole year. My wife

1861
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 2: clearly was filming me this past Saturday night.

1862
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 27: Say nice, nice, Oh here we got come on, let

1863
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 27: it gone, Get up, go go go, go, go, gotta score,

1864
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 27: gotta score.

1865
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, put him down for sake, No way, get

1866
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 13: up yet time?

1867
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 19: Oh what.

1868
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 5: That was bored?

1869
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 7: It's voice.

1870
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: You gotta be kidding me?

1871
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 10: For me?

1872
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: That is for you count Oh my god, that's bullshit.

1873
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: There's no way that's logistic.

1874
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 23: Sounds like a fun evening. I was at the Italian

1875
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 23: Film Festival.

1876
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Are we Were you swearing like I was?

1877
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 5: No?

1878
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 23: No, I had a big smile on my face. It

1879
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 23: was a very pleasant watch.

1880
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: It sounds like I live in a misolium, doesn't it?

1881
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 2: The echo? What's going on with you?

1882
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 23: It's certainly not a petted cell.

1883
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 2: No, not anymore. Not Since I took the padding down,

1884
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,560
Speaker 2: I decided I wasn't as mad as everyone thought I was,

1885
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: so I took the petting off back tomorrow. Ellen Davis,

1886
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 2: by the way, you know the name Ellen Davies Jonathan

1887
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: Creek Q. I've been on QI forever. In fact, he's

1888
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: the original. He's the only original QI still going from

1889
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: day one anyway, Ellen Davis on the program among other matters.

1890
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 2: When we rejoin you tomorrow at six Happy Days

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