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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 2: Head Been today was recognizing Palestine make a jot of difference,

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Speaker 2: more bad news on gas and lack of good news

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Speaker 2: and bad news around tourism. Lady Wilson heading here for

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Speaker 2: the first time. She's with us after eight catlin Field

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Speaker 2: and France. Rob Little is in heat wave number four

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Speaker 2: in the UK. Posky Tuesday morning, seven past six. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to it. Questioner supporting a Palestinian state something you do

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Speaker 2: when you look like you're wanting to do something. The

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Speaker 2: Australian Cabinet signed it off allegedly yesterday. The announcement's due

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Speaker 2: maybe in September. We apparently are thinking about it, talking

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Speaker 2: about it. Maybe we do the same thing, Maybe we don't.

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Speaker 2: If anything happens, we'll join France and Canada. People also

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Speaker 2: claim the UK has done the same thing, although I

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Speaker 2: read the UK is having threatened Israel with it as

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Speaker 2: a as opposed to offering it to some sort of

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Speaker 2: move towards peace. The two state solution to what what

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Speaker 2: actually happens? I mean, does the war stop, does the

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Speaker 2: hate stop, does the aid flow? Do people stop dying?

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Speaker 2: Does her mass leave town? Are the weapons put down?

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Speaker 2: Does anything actually happen? Obviously, Israel's ropable in the United

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Speaker 2: States won't be far behind, and they're upset. But it

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Speaker 2: appears it's one of those things you do once you've

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Speaker 2: called for a cease fire. Didn't happen, Hostages to be released,

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Speaker 2: didn't happen, aid to be allowed into Gaza maybe or

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Speaker 2: maybe didn't happen. The reality as opposed to the endless

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Speaker 2: fanciful hot air is the headline I read yesterday which

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Speaker 2: summed it all up, beautifully trapped in a death spiral,

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Speaker 2: Net and Yahoo and Hamas commit to endless war. Isn't

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Speaker 2: that the simple truth? Right or wrong? Nothing's happening, nothing's new,

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Speaker 2: and the advance or the advantage of having been awry

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Speaker 2: in a while, as you have seen the same story

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Speaker 2: over and over again. I mean when October happened almost

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Speaker 2: two years ago. Now the Israelis hit back. I said

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Speaker 2: last time and the time before. Go back as far

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Speaker 2: as you like. I said that not because I'm some genius,

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Speaker 2: but because it's obvious as each month passes, all the

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Speaker 2: usual players have j your, and all the usual players

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Speaker 2: have said what usual players have said every time. Impotent

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Speaker 2: bystanders who at best can dabble periodically in small amounts

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Speaker 2: of aid or help say things. People who can't really

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Speaker 2: say anything say some aid, some threats, some sanctions, some threats.

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Speaker 2: The severity of each chapter depends about on who's in

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Speaker 2: the White House. Of course, that's why this has gone

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Speaker 2: longer and harder. But two groups determined to wipe each

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Speaker 2: other off the face of the earth will never stop

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Speaker 2: until one wins. Definitively recognizing one as a state will

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Speaker 2: not make a jot of difference. News of the world

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Speaker 2: in ninety seconds one day in DC. So she's busy

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Speaker 2: at the White House?

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Speaker 3: Where's Caroline?

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Speaker 4: Where's my superstar Carolina?

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Speaker 5: Is she doing a good job?

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Speaker 4: By the way, camera, is this the largest crowd we

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Speaker 4: that you've ever seen?

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Speaker 6: This is definitely the most part freefit.

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Speaker 2: Crime in Washington and war in Ukraine were the topics

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Speaker 2: of the day. The New ag needs help on the street.

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Speaker 7: If they're under eighteen years of age. I can only

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Speaker 7: get the case. If it's murder, rob one, rape, even

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Speaker 7: if they shoot a gun but don't kill you, I

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Speaker 7: can't get it. So the law has to be changed.

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Speaker 7: As the President said, counselors fail, that has to be changed.

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Speaker 2: It was so busy. Donald forgot that he was going

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Speaker 2: to Alaska on Friday by saying he was going to Russia,

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Speaker 2: which we assume he isn't. Anyway, Here is how it's

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Speaker 2: going to roll.

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Speaker 4: There'll be some land swapping going on. I know that

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Speaker 4: through Russia and through conversations with everybody to the good

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Speaker 4: for the good of Ukraine, good stuff, not bad stuff,

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Speaker 4: also some bad stuff, for both is good and there's bad.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, it's only the world we're running, which leaves,

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Speaker 2: of course v Lood sort of finn't know, waiting and watching.

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Speaker 8: President Zelenski and Ukraine has said, it's obvious that Russia

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Speaker 8: wants to buy time.

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Speaker 2: Not end the war meantime in the other war, the

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Speaker 2: claimer's journalists are now the new targets.

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Speaker 9: I feel I'm not safe. I could be killed any

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Speaker 9: time because I'm a journalist or because I'm just a

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Speaker 9: regular citizen here. But despite that, we have to continue

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Speaker 9: covering and titting that truth. Otherwise the word will not.

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Speaker 2: Know what is the running here related matters in Britain.

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Speaker 2: The government's trying this morning to convince BRIT's the arrests

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Speaker 2: over the weekend we then getting serious about radicals.

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Speaker 10: Prescription is about one narrow group that has been involved

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Speaker 10: in violent attacks, including injuries, including weapons, smoke bombs, causing

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Speaker 10: panic among innocent people. This is not a nonviolent organization.

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Speaker 2: No, it is not Finally Bitcoin Gate, James Howell's whilst

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Speaker 2: eight thousand bitcoins you know the name, his former partner

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Speaker 2: threw his computer out of their house today. That would

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Speaker 2: be worth one point four billion. So this is the bloke.

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Speaker 2: He's been going through the courts to try and get

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Speaker 2: permission to search a rubbish dump and Newport. He's even

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Speaker 2: a bunch of hitch fund millionaires. But today, well Saidley,

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Speaker 2: it's over. He's given up the court. Losses are piling

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Speaker 2: up stairs and the fortune is now lost for him

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Speaker 2: to use the world of ninety Trump mess. A moment

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Speaker 2: ago while when he was busy talking about land swaps

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Speaker 2: police department under federal control. This is LA two point

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Speaker 2: zero and you can remember where that went. He's deploying

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Speaker 2: the National Guarden to Washington. He called it Liberation Day

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Speaker 2: in DC. It's section seven forty of the District's Home

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Speaker 2: Rule Act, Special conditions of an emergency nature exists. Everyone

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Speaker 2: else is saying, well, crimes down, what's your problem? But

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Speaker 2: it's you know, we saw it out west, we're seeing

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Speaker 2: Quick question, Is this the beginning of the fight back?

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Speaker 5: Ford?

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Speaker 2: US have announced the two billion dollar investment in Louisville

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Speaker 2: rolling up more affordable electric vehicles or come to the

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Speaker 2: price of a Chinese EV in China at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But that's on top of their three billion already planned

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Speaker 2: for a battery park in Michigan. So they're going to

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Speaker 2: build a mid size four door electric pickup slated for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. So I don't know whether that's at

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Speaker 2: China or not. And they're just desperate. Fifteen past six

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Speaker 2: and JM. I wealth for Andrew Keller, her good morning,

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Speaker 2: very good morning match. I would have thought today is

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Speaker 2: a lock across the Tasman. Isn't it twenty five all

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Speaker 11: It would appear to be? So yeah, it pretty quiet

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Speaker 11: very exciting. This is the RBA announcing the latest prognosis

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Speaker 11: on monetary policy settings. And yeah, you're right, Mike, there's

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Speaker 11: almost universal consensus they will drop their interest rate over there.

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Speaker 5: It's currently sitting at three point eighty five percent.

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Speaker 11: And the viewers will be a twenty five point shift

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Speaker 11: doesn't it because this is what we do in New Zealand.

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Speaker 11: But the arby insts pause strong arguments or I think

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Speaker 11: you know it? So Westpac economic review that came out

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Speaker 11: this morning, they're basically saying three percent is the base.

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Speaker 5: But I even the Prime Minister Mike.

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Speaker 11: Is verbalizing that we need that we're expecting more interest

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Speaker 5: I think he said that yesterday.

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Speaker 11: Now, look, the Ossie economy does appear to be calling

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Speaker 11: the trimmed mean, which smooths out some Volatility's actually sitting

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Speaker 11: higher about two point seven, very similar to our headline

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Speaker 5: It's also slowing in Australia.

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Speaker 11: Our unemployment rate is quite a bit higher and unfortunate

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Speaker 11: it's moving in the wrong direction. Just as an aside,

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Speaker 11: you've got CPI data out in the US tonight, so

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Speaker 5: Next US move on on their cash rates. We'll keep

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Speaker 5: a cose eye on that tonight.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the OCR here market pricing is now assuming the

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Speaker 5: The point I would make though, is that the RB.

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Speaker 11: And Z myight does have three opportunities move the official

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Speaker 11: opportunity to get that rate down and give us a

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Speaker 11: little wee Christmas present.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that there is beef across the Tasman. So this

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Speaker 11: quoting Ossie beef producers.

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Speaker 11: about a number of times, Mike. It wasn't so much

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Speaker 11: we look at the beef producers to the US, I

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Speaker 11: mean here they have got Brazil fifty, Canada at thirty

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Speaker 11: the Aussie's have have won that contest, yes, contest, and

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Speaker 11: the Aussie Trade min is to even quoting pointing out

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Speaker 11: the Aussie advantage I would argue, Mike, there's two groups

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Speaker 11: I'm taking the guys our full position on this. I

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Speaker 2: How we is this in Nvidia AMD thing? I mean,

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Speaker 2: so you can't sell it to China, but actually now

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Speaker 2: you can, but you better slip me a few dollars.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's that about?

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Speaker 11: This is weird. This is an interesting development here. It's

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Speaker 11: definitely raising eyebrows and it will prompt ongoing discussion. So

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Speaker 11: you've got this very unusual agreement here where Nvidia and

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Speaker 11: AMD have agreed to give the US government. Now we're

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Speaker 11: not sure what exactly it is, but it's either fifteen

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Speaker 11: from chip sales to China, apparently in return for it

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Speaker 5: So this is for the sale of specific chips that

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is weird. I'm not aware of this

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's almost like a shakedown. It was saying, look,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, night Now. So the suggestion has

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Speaker 13: We look at all sorts of things in the agricultural field.

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Speaker 2: help it innovate faster, introduce more digital features, and maybe

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Speaker 2: provide some more banking competition. Stand By, We're off to

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Speaker 2: the heat in the moment. In Europe eighteen two, the.

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Speaker 2: EP Mike Rice was growing commercially into bookie in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: While there's a fair fun fact in the morning and

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Speaker 2: obviously it's not ground there now. And what is kiwi fruit,

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Speaker 2: which was what Jacqueline was saying, you grow the stuff

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Speaker 2: that makes the money. As regards this weekend in Alaska,

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Speaker 2: here's how she's shaking down land wise.

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Speaker 4: They've occupied some very prime territory. We're going to try

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Speaker 4: and get some of that totory back for Ukraine, but

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Speaker 4: they've taken some very prime territory. They've taken largely ocean

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Speaker 4: you know, in real estate, we called ocean front property.

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Speaker 4: That's always the most valuable property.

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Speaker 14: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 14: for New Zealand business like Miami.

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Speaker 2: Let's go through Europe and France. Catherin Field, very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you, Good morning man, sort of a repeat

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Speaker 2: what we were going through a couple of months ago

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Speaker 2: when he first dipped his tone to this particular negotiation,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it Where does Europe set? What are they going

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Speaker 2: to do? Are they on the phone? Where are you

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Speaker 2: at this morning?

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Speaker 15: Well, I think for the last couple of days, all

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Speaker 15: we've seen is this intensification of efforts across European capitals

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Speaker 15: to try and.

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Speaker 6: Shape the outcome of this summit.

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Speaker 15: Which has the possibility of determining Ukraine's fate. And with that,

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Speaker 15: you know, this is what it's important Europe's long term

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Speaker 15: security framework. So what we've been seeing, of course, since

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Speaker 15: that Saturday meeting between the British Foreign Secretary and the

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Speaker 15: US Vice President. We've seen a lot of running around

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Speaker 15: all these efforts by people like the German Chancellor, the President,

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Speaker 15: Notoseexuary General to try and get Europe a seat at

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Speaker 15: that table when the summit takes place on Friday in Alaska.

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Speaker 15: If not Europe, then try and get Zelenski to be there.

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Speaker 15: That is going to be the big thing that they're

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Speaker 15: pushing for now. What we're going to see in the

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Speaker 15: next couple of days, particularly Wednesday afternoon in Europe, Mike,

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Speaker 15: we're seeing virtual meetings which will be between Germany, France, Finland,

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Speaker 15: by a meeting online meeting, virtual meeting with EU leaders,

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Speaker 15: President Trump and Dvance and after that we'll be seeing

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Speaker 15: a meeting of the Coalition of the Willing. So what

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Speaker 15: the push now is is Europe really going to be

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Speaker 15: coming to the table. Well, that looks like it's not

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Speaker 15: really going to happen. Will Russia be going to the

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Speaker 15: summit looking for meaningful peace efforts to become or is

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Speaker 15: it going there to divide Europe? But also just the

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Speaker 15: whole hope that you're finding out what's going to happen,

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Speaker 15: who's going to happen, and hoping that Europe doesn't get

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Speaker 15: sold down the river.

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Speaker 2: Just as a vibe, the sense that something tangibly comes

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Speaker 2: out of that meeting, whether the Europe's involved or not.

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Speaker 2: In other words, they break up and go we've decided this.

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Speaker 2: What chanced that?

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Speaker 15: You know, M just talking to people here today. They're

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Speaker 15: pretty much getting used to the idea that they're not

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Speaker 15: going to have that much input to this meeting, to

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Speaker 15: this summit, and the best they can hope is maybe

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Speaker 15: Zelensky gets to go. And the vibe is they just

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Speaker 15: do not have any leverage left.

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Speaker 3: You don't forget.

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Speaker 15: This is all happening at the same time as people

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Speaker 15: are trying to be nice to Trump because of the tariffs.

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Speaker 15: So it's a very difficult, crucial time for the European continent.

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Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing. So Putting and Trump decide

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Speaker 2: something and to go there it is, that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: And Zelenska obviously goes, well, no, I'm not giving that

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Speaker 2: land back. Where does Europe stand with? You want to

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Speaker 2: carry on the wall, do you? So here's some more money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do about that song.

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Speaker 15: That's exactly it. I mean, the whole idea of European

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Speaker 15: and Ukrainians thinking anything differently than they've thought right from

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Speaker 15: the start of this conflict that Ukraine designs its territorial integrity,

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Speaker 15: Ukraine designs its own future. It is not decided by

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Speaker 15: Vladimir Putin and it's not decided by Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 15: they will keep putting money in there. But everyone also

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Speaker 15: knows that this war will not end until Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 15: decides it's going to end.

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Speaker 2: Correct. Switzerland thirty nine Will we made any progress this week?

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Speaker 6: Well, yes we have.

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Speaker 15: Actually thirty nine cent taris announced last week for Switzerland.

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Speaker 15: What this Swiss doing now is they are in the

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Speaker 15: middle of unraveling an order to buy thirty six lockeed

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Speaker 15: Martin F thirty fives from the US. These were due

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Speaker 15: to be delivered to the Swiss Air Force sometime between

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Speaker 15: twenty twenty seven and twenty thirty. That bill, of course,

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Speaker 15: got thirty nine percent added on to it immediately when

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Speaker 15: those tariffs were announced. So part of this backlash following

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Speaker 15: all that is the Swiss are now going to get

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Speaker 15: back to Parliament and asked Parliament if they can ditch

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Speaker 15: this order and if they can buy European fighter jets. Spain,

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Speaker 15: of course, has already done the same. Earlier this month,

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Speaker 15: it had said it wasn't going to buy any of

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Speaker 15: these US made F thirty five. They're going for European

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Speaker 15: military aircraft. I mean, let's not forget these. You know,

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Speaker 15: these American made fighter jets used to be sort of

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Speaker 15: the mainstay of European security.

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Speaker 6: Clearly not anymore. And we had earlier this year, remember.

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Speaker 15: Portugal also stopped in order they had for US made

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Speaker 15: fighter jets. They said that America, and this was back

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Speaker 15: then America was an unreliable ally. But also they said

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Speaker 15: they were concerned that the partners such as Portugal would

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Speaker 15: be blocked from access to things like software updates, spare parts,

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Speaker 15: that it just wasn't in their interest to put all

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Speaker 15: their eggs in the US basket.

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Speaker 2: All was a pleasure, Catherine, see you next week. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. He talks to us from about forty

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Speaker 2: degrees at the moment, as the heat wave settles into

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Speaker 2: that particular part of the world. Rod's feeling it two

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Speaker 2: not quite forty degrees, but nevertheless he's with us in

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Speaker 2: a couple of hours ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: togs had been as.

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Speaker 2: You speaking of banks as there was a moment ago

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Speaker 2: I in Zeider moving on the one year fixed four

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Speaker 2: to seven nine six month, five fourteen, two year, four

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Speaker 2: eight nine, eighteen months or seven nine three years unchanged.

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Speaker 2: So we're starting to see a little bit of movement.

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Speaker 2: They're a market leader this time around. The bank is

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Speaker 2: moving the reserve bank next week this time next week, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: next week, So that's bake den. I would have thought

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Speaker 2: at twenty five points. The big big question I'll come

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Speaker 2: to Kelly Echold, who Andrew referenced earlier on Kelly out

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Speaker 2: of Westpac paints are pretty and this is why the

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Speaker 2: picture on the economy. He though says neutrals at three.

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Speaker 2: I think he's wrong. Most people seem to factor in

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Speaker 2: two seven five are actually still say two point five.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, this bank a instead of moving on the

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Speaker 2: probably expect the others to move as well as we

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Speaker 2: build up to what is next Wednesday pretty much from

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank's point of view. Anyway, a fatal complee

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Speaker 2: with another cut five to seven.

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Speaker 2: And speaking which a bit of insight into our economy.

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Speaker 2: Work done by Revolute who partner with you GV tens

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Speaker 2: of thousand people that did this all over the world.

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Speaker 2: But of the kiwis who were surveyed, forty two percent

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Speaker 2: of us say the financial position's gotten worse than the

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Speaker 2: Thirty percent count budget effectively because he is gone the

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Speaker 2: day it comes in. The younger key is obviously doing

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Speaker 2: aren't we all? I mean, what a weird survey. Are

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Speaker 2: you facing a significant challeel? Well, I mean we're all

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Speaker 2: facing significant financial challenges? Are nineteen percent? So they get

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Speaker 2: caught up in impulse spending or buying a trip, I know,

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Speaker 2: what do you do Thatay, I'd bought a trip overall

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Speaker 2: spinning habits. Thirty four percent cost conscious. That means you're

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Speaker 2: actively seeking ways to reduce unnecessary expenses. Sixteen percent are

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Speaker 2: every expense, carefully evaluating each purchase, ensure it's necessary, and

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Speaker 2: often avoiding non essential purchases. Ten percent are prudent. I

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Speaker 2: although occasionally, just occasionally allowed for some unplanned purchases. Gen Z,

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Speaker 2: highest comfort levels. Does that even me with comfort levels?

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Speaker 5: Nice chair?

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Speaker 2: Was that a splooge? The cheer, nice cheer comfortable? Was

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Speaker 2: that a sploog? Well know, I thought about it. I

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Speaker 17: I didn't have a nice chair, but I've got a

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't afford good chair, but I had a cushion.

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Speaker 2: What are they calling it. They're calling it something like

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Speaker 2: something you know when you treat yourselves. Treatonomics, that's what

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Speaker 2: they're calling it. Treetonomics. You can't afford a bed, but

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Speaker 2: you can afford a throw. It's treetonomics. That's a thing

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Speaker 2: at the moment. Apparently Palestine, Apparently, according to our newsroom,

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Speaker 2: the world's eyes were on us. Something tells me that

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Speaker 2: isn't true.

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Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The mic costing Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Rainthrover leading by example, news togs head.

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Speaker 2: Be So we seem to have built up ahead of

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Speaker 2: business at the United Nations next month. They join Canada

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Speaker 2: foreign minister and is with us? Phil morning? Is he

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Speaker 2: with us or not? He's gone? All right, we'll go

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Speaker 2: back to him, Phil Goff in a couple of moments.

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Speaker 2: We'll also look at the business of tourism in this country.

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Speaker 2: Let me come back to what I was talking about

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Speaker 2: just a couple of moments ago before the news at

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock, Kelly Echold of Westpack is calling two point

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Speaker 2: four percent growth this year, three point one percent in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. So that's reasonable. Two point four percent

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Speaker 2: this year, three point one percent in twenty twenty six, inflation, unemployment.

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Speaker 2: He sees going higher before it eases, so the inflation

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Speaker 2: story is not over yet. Nora's unemployment so that by

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Speaker 2: point to last week needs to do some more damage

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Speaker 2: the cash rate. He sees twenty five basis points as

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Speaker 2: of next week. I think we all see that, But

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Speaker 2: he sees three percent at that's it. We're done, So

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Speaker 2: he sees one more cut. So I don't know how

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Speaker 2: he sees this. He sees growth that I don't see.

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Speaker 2: He sees the help from the Reserve Bank being only

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Speaker 2: twenty five bases points and that's it, and it's poised

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Speaker 2: to pick up next year better economic times on the

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Speaker 2: back of continued strong agricultural exports. I think we'd all

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Speaker 2: agree with that. He does, like most make economists, talk

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Speaker 2: about the lower interest rates affecting us all, but of

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Speaker 2: course what he doesn't then talk about is the rates

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Speaker 2: bill and the insurance bill, et cetera. Globally, the outlook

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Speaker 2: is not as bleak as we feared. Inflation high towards

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Speaker 2: the top of the one point three percent band, he

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Speaker 2: says house price is up three to four percent this year,

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Speaker 2: six percent next year. There's a and this is probably

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Speaker 2: the critical part that no one will pick up there's

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Speaker 2: a non trivial risk, which an interesting way of putting it,

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Speaker 2: there's a non trivial trivial risk that credit rating agencies

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Speaker 2: might stop giving us the benefit of the doubt, increasing

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Speaker 2: the stakes for financial management and coming years. So that's

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Speaker 2: that's your interest on your debt that we've incurred in

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Right, see if the phone

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Speaker 2: works film morning.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, morning Mike, Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot, no problem that all. Can't I can't

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Speaker 2: work out what the fizz is about. Say this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: we announced Palestine's a state, We recognize it to what end,

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Speaker 2: for what purpose?

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Speaker 18: It seems a clear and strong message from New Zealand

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Speaker 18: to the Israeli government that it's moves to make life

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Speaker 18: unbearable for Palestinians and Gaza and to set annex the

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Speaker 18: West Bank are unacceptable as well as being wrong and

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Speaker 18: illegal under international law, and really reaffirms our belief that

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Speaker 18: Palestine and people have a right to a homeland of

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Speaker 18: their own alongside Israel. It supports the two state solution,

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Speaker 18: which New Zealand has supported and which Israel itself agreed

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Speaker 18: to more than thirty years ago. But as Penny Wong

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Speaker 18: said in Australia yesterday. I think if you don't recognize

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Speaker 18: Palestine Palestine now as an entity, it probably won't exist

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Speaker 18: for very long given what Israel is doing in the

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Speaker 18: Middle East at the present time.

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Speaker 2: But given one hundred and fifty countries already recognized, it

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Speaker 2: hasn't stopped the thing, has it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 18: No, Look, a measure that we should take, but by

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Speaker 18: itself doesn't resolve the appalling things that are happening in

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Speaker 18: Gaza to the Palestinian people. And that means that you know,

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Speaker 18: New Zealand should be taking doing more to back up

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Speaker 18: its works with action there as well. We talk the talk,

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Speaker 18: but we don't seem to have the guts to do

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Speaker 18: anything to back up what we're saying. You know, we

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Speaker 18: just saw a journalist for Al Jazeera killed, targeted and

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Speaker 18: killed deliberately by the Israelis yesterday. This on top of

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Speaker 18: you know, sixty thousand deaths, probably one hundred thousand plus injuries,

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Speaker 18: people starving. Even Trump says people are starving, and the WHO,

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Speaker 18: of course says no, no, it's not happening. Look, it's

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Speaker 18: time to take decisive action. This is unacceptable. New Zealanders

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Speaker 18: are outraged and the international community is outraged.

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Speaker 2: All right, nice to talk to you. Appreciate and apologies

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Speaker 2: for the phone. Field Gold former Foreign Affairs Minister, with

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Speaker 2: us this morning, eleven minutes past seven. New data on

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Speaker 2: just what a mess we've got with gas business. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Energy Council tells us this morning nearly half of

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Speaker 2: the gas using businesses have reduced operations, increased prices or

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Speaker 2: and or cut stuff. Immediate actions needed. But what actually

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Speaker 2: there's the question. Tina Share as the executive director of

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Speaker 2: Business usial on Energy Council and is with us. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. I know the major users met with Shane

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Speaker 2: Jones on Friday. Did anything come out of it? I

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Speaker 2: mean sort of going, we're running out of guess we're

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Speaker 2: running out of gas. We are running out of gas.

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Speaker 2: What do we do?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 19: It's actually on Friday we had a bit of a

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Speaker 19: different format we had for the first time, I guess

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Speaker 19: your usiforum AM held with US and OPTIMI together and

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Speaker 19: it was more for.

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Speaker 5: The smaller, medium sized users.

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Speaker 19: So we had some major users in the room, but

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Speaker 19: let's say out of the one hundred and fifty ninety

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Speaker 19: percent was probably more your you know, brewing companies to

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Speaker 19: mato gross food producers that are producing cereal and that

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Speaker 19: sort of production, so quite a different audience and therefore

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Speaker 19: probably people that are not often heard about. The gas

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Speaker 19: situation idea was obviously, but the.

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Speaker 2: Important point is it's all very well sitting around in

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Speaker 2: a room saying we're running out of gas. Is anything

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Speaker 2: that's being done about it? Can any won't do anything

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 19: Well, there was a little bit of that that we

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Speaker 19: talked about. The problem which is well known, and often

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Speaker 19: the smaller ones are probably hit harder because they have

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Speaker 19: maybe less opportunity to get to other technologies or way

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Speaker 19: away from it. But there is there is actually some

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Speaker 19: business that can convert. So you have about forty percent

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Speaker 19: that don't really see it commercially viable in the next

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Speaker 19: five years, but there is also a chunk that could

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Speaker 19: convert if you do remove things like some of the

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Speaker 19: cost barriers, or if you help with infrastructure being built

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Speaker 19: and upgraded around. But the problem is that you just

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Speaker 19: mentioned the next two years. Even if they do convert

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Speaker 19: the next two years, something like that is not happening overnight.

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Speaker 2: And why and when you say can book convert.

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Speaker 14: To what.

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Speaker 19: We have for example, biogas or for example, electricity. It's

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Speaker 19: probably the most two common things that are always discussed

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Speaker 19: when you think of conversion or or more energy efficiency production.

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Speaker 19: So you had also eka in a room, which is

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Speaker 19: promoting more energy efficiency production? And when you say what

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Speaker 19: sort of things we are discussed in terms of solutions,

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Speaker 19: they thinking of, you know, going on site, inspecting our business,

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Speaker 19: what are the business opportunities in terms of conversion, and

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Speaker 19: then heading in some ideas. I mean, that wasn't I

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Speaker 19: think they're also slowly thinking about potentially concessional loans, so

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Speaker 19: actually low interest loans to help business. Maybe converting.

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Speaker 2: Cannot be blunt and suggest I'm not suggesting, I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, as Devil's advocate, is this not the

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Speaker 2: price of business? I mean, if you need to convert,

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Speaker 2: you need to convert, and that's the cost of doing business,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 19: Well, no one really saw how steep this reduction is

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Speaker 19: going to be in the last two years, right. I

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Speaker 19: feel like there was a little bit of a writing

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Speaker 19: on the wool with reduction over the last let's just say,

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Speaker 19: five to ten years in sort of like a moderate level,

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Speaker 19: but not as steep as we saw it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right to an appreciate Tennashire, who is with

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Speaker 2: the Business New Zealand Energy Council. Two stories on tourism

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Speaker 2: this morning, one bad, one good. Stand by fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Hi like asking Breakfast Fall show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 20: A'd be.

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Speaker 2: Laney Wilson after ride o'clock seventeen past seven. Perhaps not surprisingly,

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Speaker 2: having made this country the most expensive place to bring

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Speaker 2: a ship in the world, Disney Cruises have announced their

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Speaker 2: off and will not be back. They pulled the plug

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Speaker 2: on the New Zealand Australia market. The twenty five to

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Speaker 2: twenty six season is going to be the last. Jackie

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Speaker 2: Lloyd's the boss of the New Zealand Cruise Association and

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Speaker 2: is with this Jackie, very good morning to you. Can

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Speaker 2: we lay this on the doorstep of Australia and blame

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Speaker 2: them or is it all our fault?

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Speaker 17: It's a little bit of a mix of both, Mike,

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Speaker 17: it's both New Zealand and Australia. I feel this time

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Speaker 17: round are.

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Speaker 2: They as expensive as we are to come?

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Speaker 17: And look, I'm not one hundred percent sure. We don't

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Speaker 17: have that full detail, but there is an indication that

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Speaker 17: both New Zealand and Australia within the region. The charges

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Speaker 17: that we are putting in are quite expensive. So while

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Speaker 17: New Zealand definitely is very expensive, I think Australia is

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Speaker 17: cooking at our heels a little bit.

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Speaker 2: See. I asked the Prime Minister about this the other

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Speaker 2: day because this concerns me immeasurably given out to a situation.

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Speaker 2: He says they're working on it. Do you know that

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Speaker 2: to be true?

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, yes, I do. We've had some really good meetings

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Speaker 17: with government. We've got some very engaged ministers with Minister Upston, Hoggard, Costello,

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Speaker 17: Meaga and also Minister Brown and we've been working really

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Speaker 17: closely with them on solutions. So it is a little

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Speaker 17: bit of a moment to sort of turn the dial,

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Speaker 17: but we are getting good steps in with government.

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Speaker 2: If you could kill the cost and the red tape,

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Speaker 2: would it materially make a difference, Yes.

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Speaker 17: It would. We would still need to do some additional

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Speaker 17: promotion because ships are leaving, we'll need to actually go

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Speaker 17: back out to market them to bring them back, but

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Speaker 17: definitely would make a big difference. And we've had an

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Speaker 17: indication from the line so that if we do get

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Speaker 17: things right we'll be able to see you change as

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Speaker 17: early as twenty seven twenty eight season. We're too late

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Speaker 17: for twenty six twenty seven at the moment, but it

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Speaker 17: would definitely make a difference.

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Speaker 2: So there is hope because the numbers are dropping, they're

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Speaker 2: falling off a cliff.

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Speaker 17: Yes, yes, and it doesn't sound very good, does it.

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Speaker 17: But no, there is hope. There is absolutely hope, and

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Speaker 17: we certainly have hope for Disney too. They've said that

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Speaker 17: the door is open. They're interested in coming back to

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Speaker 17: New Zealand and Australia, and we'll give their guests the

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Speaker 17: best possible experiences this summer to ensure that they have

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Speaker 17: great memories and they'll want to come back in future.

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Speaker 2: Good fingers crossed, let's see we can get our act together. Jackielloyd,

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Speaker 2: who's the New Zealand Cruise Association. Last morning, Mike, what

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Speaker 2: And when? Hard to know what to do? Mike, He's

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Speaker 2: got no idea. This is Kelly Ekold. He's got no idea.

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Speaker 2: So wrong about the interest rates. There will be two

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Speaker 2: some serious stuff a bitter but a smash and grab

870
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: or biffo were somewhere between teenage hijinks and lautish behavior

871
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: that a good telling off might address. Meantime, back in

872
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: the real world, we were completely sick and tired of

873
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: the garrises in the shop windows and the layabouts wandering

874
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: out of woolies with legs of lamb and slabs abear

875
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: not having paid for them. So military academies ten of

876
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: the worst, given a few months with rigorous oversight, hopefully

877
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: to get back out and wrapped up with support of

878
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: some expert guidance and fingers crossed a life changing experience.

879
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: Now many respects, the government were on a hiding to nothing.

880
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean ten of the worst. What have they got

881
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: to lose? I mean the fact who didn't reoffend I

882
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: would have thought it was a little short of a miracle.

883
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: Those that did offend, by the way not widely reported,

884
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: offend it at a lesser level. And do not forget

885
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: the trial is ongoing, the guidance, the wrap around mentorship

886
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: is still in action, so there is still hope. Now,

887
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: criticism around. The cost fair enough, but like most problems,

888
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: when it's been allowed to get progressively worse, whether it's

889
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: a car, or a paint job or a kid on

890
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: the scheds, the bill goes up. This most likely won't

891
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: be a miracle, but it might be a dent. It

892
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: might for some actually work. It might be better than

893
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: what we've done, which is little or nothing. But you

894
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: would need an open mind to come to that. Conclusions

895
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: like liquefied natural gas can be imported and specially as

896
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: super tank is all you need support to unload it

897
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: fill you right, But I mean I don't know that.

898
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: And they've looked at that because Simmy and Brown when

899
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: he was Energy Minister, was busy telling us that was

900
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: it a year ago last winter, busy looking at LNG.

901
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: The problem with it is it's hideously expensive. Just back

902
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: briefly when you should fix at the moment, the question

903
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: what's your thoughts on how to fix your mortgage? At

904
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: the moment, I'm telling everyone and don't this is like

905
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: take it, don't take it, and don't blame me. I'm

906
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: going if you can get something with a four to

907
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: eight four seven four eight, I'd lock it up for

908
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: a couple of years. But do whatever you like, and

909
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Glenn. Two five I still say

910
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: two five is neutral. Kelly's three. I don't know how

911
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: he sees it. I don't know how he justifies it.

912
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how he gets it. Short of that

913
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: overarching the good times are coming. I just don't see

914
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: them shoots, mate, green shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what

915
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying. The green shoots are on the farm, and

916
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: everyone knows the farm's going great. But as for the

917
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: rest of us, I don't see. I certainly don't see three.

918
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: I could be happy to be wrong at two seven five,

919
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: and it is, but I think it's more two five anyway.

920
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: Here's an insight in two headlines with exactly the same report.

921
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: This is Westpax Economic Report. Two headlines. The Herald's headline,

922
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: US tarraff uncertainty clouds New Zealand's economic outlook. Their alternative

923
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: headline for the same story printed a different way, New

924
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: Zealand Economic outlooks strained by US terrorf uncertainty, very negative.

925
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: Radio New Zealand's headline, economy to pick up despite high inflation.

926
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: So same story, same facts, same detail. It's all in

927
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: how you see it? Isn't it now Bill that they

928
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: were come Christitch Stadium. We're going to have a whole

929
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: round of Super Rugby. So that's been announced. Is this

930
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: good news? What about all the people who miss out,

931
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: all the teams that aren't at their home grounds? Would

932
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: So where we go with us? Mark Robinson of the

933
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Union is with us directly after the News,

934
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: which is next.

935
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the Mike

936
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential,

937
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talksad Be.

938
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 2: I hesitate to even go here, but here goes why

939
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: would Mike New Zealand support or recognize as a sovereign

940
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: state a place run by a terrorist organization? Linda, there

941
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: comes all of these things come with the criteria, and

942
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: the criteria is that if we recognize the Palestinian state,

943
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: must not have anything to do with it. Thus you

944
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: then lead down the rabbit hole of futility. That is

945
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: the fact that every time the Palestinians go and have

946
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: a vote, which you will note, as history tells us,

947
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: isn't that often. But when they do have a vote,

948
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: they vote for Hamas, which would then lead you to

949
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: believe that we couldn't recognize Palestine, which would then believe

950
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: We'll go round and round in circle. So if you've

951
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: been following this as I have for forty to fifty years,

952
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: it's the same thing over and over and over and

953
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: over and over again. And read the Sydney Morning Herald

954
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: from yesterday with the headline I featured earlier on the program,

955
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: Basically Hamas and let ya who are in a doom

956
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: spiral never to end, and the sooner we extract ourselves

957
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: from it, given we can do nothing, change nothing, the

958
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: better off we are because we've got bigger fish to

959
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: fry domestically. Twenty ten minutes away from eight.

960
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 6: I got a hid like I got a little lum by.

961
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: The way, Yes, Blainey Wilson coming after eight. Look forward

962
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: to that. A little bit of bill that they will

963
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 2: come as Super Rugby confirms that the new Christyutch Stadium

964
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: will host around next year round eleven three days from

965
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: April twenty four to twenty six, five games under the

966
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: roof Mark Robinson's and New Cider Rugby CEO and as

967
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: with us, Mark, very good morning to you morning.

968
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 18: Mite.

969
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: It opens on the twentieth and you're kicking off on

970
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: the twenty fourth. How confident you're feeling about those numbers.

971
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 8: Well, based on all the feedback we're getting out of Christich,

972
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 8: we're really confident. And I was down there a couple

973
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 8: of months ago and got a brief look through it

974
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 8: and it's looking fantastic. It's really an amazing facility and

975
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 8: a huge credit to all the people involved in it.

976
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 8: So you know, I think it'll bring a massive amount

977
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 8: of excitement into the city and the region and obviously

978
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 8: it would be great for rugby as well.

979
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: Are you maxing out the opportunity? It is a smallish stadium,

980
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: so I mean, if you did the same thing you

981
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: need in part, you could get more people.

982
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 8: Well, look, you know, we obviously acknowledged that christ Jiach

983
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 8: has gone through incredibly challenging time and have responded amazingly

984
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 8: well to what happened after the earthquakes. So this has

985
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 8: always been on the radar for us to want to

986
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 8: give back to a region that you know, frankly loves

987
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 8: it's rugby and has been a massive supporter of rugby

988
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 8: at many levels. So look, you know, we obviously considered

989
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 8: other options here, Mike, you know, in Australia in the Pacific,

990
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 8: but we feel this is you know, not only a

991
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 8: great event that at a at all levels stacks up,

992
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 8: but it's awfully symbolic too, given how cross it's just

993
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 8: going now.

994
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: Is it a one off in that case?

995
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 8: No, Look, we wouldn't roll out possibility for the future

996
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 8: at all. I don't know if if there's any detail

997
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 8: around those conversations yet, but we have a gussed through

998
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 8: the first one and see how that goes.

999
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: How do you do the revenue for the people who

1000
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: don't have a home game and have to go across

1001
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: town or down country.

1002
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 8: I'll look at the compensation arrangements for that, Mike, so

1003
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 8: that that's all cleared up. Being set out in previous

1004
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 8: super rounds in Melbourne are well understood by all the

1005
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 8: participants indeed.

1006
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: And it's just as funny because the league I was

1007
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: thinking about the Gold Coast and Vegas and stuff, is

1008
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: this kind of a thing for sports. So you take

1009
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: it out and you take it to a place and

1010
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: make it like a I don't know, a party, your

1011
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: festival whatever.

1012
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it isn't it? You know, it's it's

1013
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 8: proving really popular and arrange of different sports, and certainly,

1014
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 8: you know, tourism entities that are proactive in our vision

1015
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 8: for their region acknowledged that sport's an amazing platform to

1016
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 8: do that, and you know, we were hopefully you know,

1017
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 8: we've gone out recently looking to what national team are

1018
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 8: All Blacks and Black Foo institutions will look like over

1019
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 8: the next two to three years and hoping to see

1020
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 8: great responses to that.

1021
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: In the same vein good stuff. Listen, while I've got

1022
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: you this Mwonga thing, I count for the work. All

1023
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: the people are angsty about it. I can't work out

1024
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: what the problem is. So if you're really good, you

1025
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: write your own ticket, don't you. Isn't that how it

1026
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: works in the real world.

1027
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 20: Oh well, I haven't.

1028
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 8: Really you know, after we launched the news obviously, I

1029
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 8: haven't really kept too close to what people are saying.

1030
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 8: We're pleased, Richie's pleased, you know, the All Blacks are

1031
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 8: pleased and being really clear around what the arrangement is

1032
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 8: and we think it's fantastic.

1033
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, people, he's playing in Japan and he won't

1034
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: play the same and it's all different and he shouldn't

1035
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: go away and come back and come away, and you

1036
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: know it's just like, oh god, I just like, well,

1037
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: you know, I mean we've.

1038
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 8: Seen, we've seen the loads of cases where that's been

1039
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 8: proven not to be the case. And we know Richie's

1040
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 8: a really in diligent athlete and he'll work really hard

1041
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 8: and get back and get into formed pretty quickly. In fact,

1042
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 8: he's an amazing form now. So you know, we're really

1043
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 8: pleased with that. We'll move on, Mike.

1044
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: Good two from two from Argentina.

1045
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 8: Look where I'm taking off tomorrow night and I'm looking

1046
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 8: forward to getting over to see Argentinian friends. I mean,

1047
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 8: it's been interesting watching them, hasn't it. They had a

1048
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 8: great game against the Lions, but we're less impressive against

1049
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 8: the English. But we know they're getting.

1050
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: All the all their players back.

1051
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 8: They'll be really tough. But yea, hopefully we get a

1052
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 8: couple of great performances.

1053
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Good on, you go, well, appreciate it very much. Mike Robinson,

1054
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: who's the New Zealand Rugby CEO? Was there a definitive answer?

1055
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: Wasn't really a definitive answer? Wasn't It wasn't If I

1056
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: was the CEO of New Zealand Rugby, and somebody like

1057
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: Hosking asked me a question two from two from Argentina,

1058
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: I'd say something, well, of course, what else would do

1059
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: you expect? I mean, that's the answer you want, isn't

1060
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: eighteen minutes away from eight pasking construction sectors bullish? Ninety

1061
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: three percent remain confident about the industry's outlook over the

1062
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: next five years. I do worry slightly about the five

1063
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: year aspect of it. I mean, if you can't be

1064
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: confident five I mean six months, you know, maybe maybe

1065
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 2: not one year interesting, but five years. If you can't

1066
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: be confident about your country and your industry after five years,

1067
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: you may as well leave the country. Ken Art's high

1068
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: annual construction confidence check. So what have we got? Medium

1069
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: to large construction businesses? Ninety nine percent are either actively

1070
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: implementing or exploring cost saving strategies, as you should be

1071
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: doing all the time. Anyway, I would have thought invest

1072
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: more in technology sixty eight percent, improving planning project management

1073
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: forty seven percent. Only forty seven percent are looking to

1074
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: hire more staff. That's your problem, I guess. Ninety four

1075
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: percent said they'd been adversely affected by tariffs. How's that possible?

1076
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: Terriiffs have only just arrived. I mean they only started

1077
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: the other day. Did you sit and have a beer

1078
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: on a Friday? And when I tell you what, I'll

1079
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: be adversely affected by those tariffs. If somebody rings me

1080
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: up and asks me, I'm going to tell them that

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Speaker 2: I think that's how that worked. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Said, blow me down if I'm not recommending the listener.

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Speaker 2: Darryl McLachlin writes a fantastic piece on in CEA. He

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Speaker 2: starts by saying, and it's moderately amusing, apart from being

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Speaker 2: insightful as well. NCEEA was doomed anyway. No educational framework

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Speaker 2: so dependent on internal assessment could remain viable in the

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Speaker 2: age of artificial intelligence. That sums it up beautifully Ministers.

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Speaker 2: He talks about how good Erica Stanford is Ministers do

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Speaker 2: not replace core components of the education system merely because

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Speaker 2: they've failed hundreds of thousands of students, an inflected profound

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Speaker 2: change on the nation's long term prosperity. It's simply not done.

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Speaker 2: Consider the agonizing decades of inaction about other known problems

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Speaker 2: like the broken tax system, the broken energy sector, the

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Speaker 2: inertia over fixing grocery markets. Consider the thirty plus inquiries

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Speaker 2: into OT during the past three decades, an organization that

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Speaker 2: remains horribly defective. The unspoken role of ministers is to

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Speaker 2: minimize media risk, follow official advice to conduct reviews, oversee

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Speaker 2: departmental mergers, reorganizations and rebrands to create the illusion of

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Speaker 2: change while leaving everything intact. If Stanford successfully reforms the

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Speaker 2: public education system, she will join a very short list

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Speaker 2: of recent ministers Cunliffe, Whoffects, Telecommunications, Joyce and Adams the

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Speaker 2: Ultra fast broadband roll out who drove meaningful change in

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Speaker 2: their portfolios. It's easier to push back against the mandarins

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Speaker 2: of the public service when confronted with their manevolence and

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Speaker 2: incompetence on a daily basis. Many social scientists, and what

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Speaker 2: he goes on to talk about is Kenzianism. Many social

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Speaker 2: scientists divide the post war political order into two distinct erarors.

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Speaker 2: The Kensian years low unemployment, protected economies, powerful trade unions,

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Speaker 2: extensive government ownership and high rates of progressive taxation, followed

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Speaker 2: by the neoliberal order of free markets, free trade, low

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Speaker 2: inflation and low taxes, which is what we're living through

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Speaker 2: at the moment, of course, And he eventually comes around

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Speaker 2: to the Labour Party. Where is the left in this

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Speaker 2: contest of ideas? In New Zealand mostly nowhere sums them

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Speaker 2: up perfectly. In the US, UK and now Australia, there

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Speaker 2: is much debate in left wing circles about abundance agenda,

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Speaker 2: an argument for progressive governments to solve problems of housing, transport,

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Speaker 2: energy and healthcare via improved state capacity and supply. And

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Speaker 2: to be fair at the Greens, that's what they were

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Speaker 2: talking about over the weekend at their conference, delivering more houses, infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: green energy projects rather than more welfare. So it's well well,

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Speaker 2: well worth reading because it explains very clearly the split

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Speaker 2: between the left and the right, and how in a

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Speaker 2: way ironically, how good Stamford is and how in the

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Speaker 2: Labour Party is, because as he says, they're basically nowhere.

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Speaker 2: If I get time today, it may not be today,

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Speaker 2: but it will be tomorrow. To make you feel really depressed,

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Speaker 2: The other thing I was reading yesterday is the Australian Superannuation. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is the answer to our problem, Key, we saber.

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Speaker 2: In this country, the average balance is thirty three thousand dollars, right,

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Speaker 2: thirty three thousand dollars? Now does that fund your retirement?

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Speaker 2: Of course it doesn't. Now how would the comparison b

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Speaker 2: with Australia? When I give you those numbers, you will weep.

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Speaker 2: But we need to return to tourism and some good news.

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Speaker 2: In a moment tender way.

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Speaker 1: The mic asking breakfast with rainthrow burn news, Tom's dead b.

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Speaker 2: Well they're serving away from it, so wal Disney and

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Speaker 2: their cruise ships are off. The good news around tourism

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Speaker 2: can be found in Queenstown new data from Skyline. They're

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Speaker 2: the Lousion gondola people. Of course, they see international louge

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Speaker 2: rides up thirty two percent, gondola rides up twenty one percent.

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Speaker 2: Danny Luke is the chief operating officer at Skyline and

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Speaker 2: is with us. Danny morning, Good morning, Mike. If you

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Speaker 2: see it, does the whole town see it? In other words,

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Speaker 2: as the whole race booming?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, we're seeing real gross down here at the moment.

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Speaker 20: The winter's the winter's being vibrant, and we've got lots

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Speaker 20: of international vizillas coming in which is great to see.

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Speaker 2: And not being pedantic about it. But how do you

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Speaker 2: know a person on a gondolas international versus local?

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Speaker 20: Oh, we asked them when they arrived.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 20: We've seen a lot of Australians we know, we know

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Speaker 20: they come every year for the ski season. They've had

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Speaker 20: a bit of a lack of snow this year, but

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Speaker 20: they're still coming in their drove, which is, as I said,

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Speaker 20: amazing to see.

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Speaker 2: What's your vibe in terms of it's too busy, it's

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Speaker 2: too full.

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Speaker 20: We don't think that. What do we think there is

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Speaker 20: We think there's room for growth here. I mean we're

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Speaker 20: investing significantly in our infrastructure at Skyland. We know other

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Speaker 20: tourism operators are doing the same. We believe there's probably

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Speaker 20: some assistance from the government required in terms of traffic congestion.

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Speaker 20: But you know there is room for growth here. We

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Speaker 20: would like to see growth and we're investing heavily for

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Speaker 20: the future.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, And how does your business there compared

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Speaker 2: with your businesses and various other parts of the world.

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Speaker 20: Well, Queen's downs a much larger property to what we

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Speaker 20: have internationally. We have six international properties, a couple in

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Speaker 20: Canada and Korea, Singapore, Malaysia. This is a large scale

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Speaker 20: gondola property, but internationally we have the Louge, which is

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Speaker 20: our flagship attraction. So it's a lot bigger here than

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Speaker 20: what we have internationally.

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Speaker 2: And do you say, but the reason I asked the question,

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Speaker 2: do you see tourism generally booming all over the world

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Speaker 2: or is it specific to your particular part of the world.

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Speaker 3: Now we're seeing grace.

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Speaker 20: I've just got from Kenner actually last week, and we're

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Speaker 20: seeing record numbers in both Tromlong and Calgary where our

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Speaker 20: two sites are located, than I was in Carea and

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Speaker 20: Singapore last month. Both of those properties are putting records

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Speaker 20: on So we're seeing growth around the world tourism. Tourism

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Speaker 20: is booming.

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Speaker 2: Were you going to look at Wales? Were you looking

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Speaker 2: at a place in Wales? Or am I making that up?

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Speaker 19: No?

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Speaker 20: You're not making it up. No, No, we are looking at

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Speaker 20: Wales Swansea. So we've worked on that since twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 20: so that's been a long long project making good progress.

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Speaker 20: Now we've got a really good relationship there with the

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Speaker 20: council and local community. So we hope to have a

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Speaker 20: new property in Europe and the near future.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Go well, appreciate it very much, Danny Luke, who

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Speaker 2: was a co at Skyline Enterprises. So tell me why

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Speaker 2: in Calgary and in Asia and Queen Standy's seeing record

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Speaker 2: amounts of business and this country isn't seeing record amounts

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Speaker 2: of the business. What is going? I mean the ships

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Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, on the cruise ships. We told you

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Speaker 2: it's too expensive. We just whacked charge after charge after charge,

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Speaker 2: rule after rule, and they've said, don't worry about it,

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Speaker 2: we won't be coming. So if you look at the numbers,

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Speaker 2: and I gave them to you the other day, if

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Speaker 2: you look at the cruise season, you go back. I

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Speaker 2: think it's two cruise seasons. We had record numbers of

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Speaker 2: cruise ships here. It was a half billion dollar industry.

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Speaker 2: Ever since then the rules have come in and we've

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Speaker 2: just seen the ship arrivals fall off a cliff. EV's

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Speaker 2: just quickly. I mentioned there's a big investment announced overnight

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Speaker 2: by Ford into Louisiana. They're going to build sort of

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Speaker 2: cheaper they say cheaper. Whether they're going to be able

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Speaker 2: to compete with the Chinese, I've got no idea. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I do know they're never going to be able to

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Speaker 2: compete with the Chinese anyway, So there's a price war

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Speaker 2: going on with Chinese EV's. At the moment, there's a

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty nine EV brands in China. One

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine EV brands in China. Virtually none

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Speaker 2: of them are turning a profit, so they're going to

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Speaker 2: start to fall over. Even the Chinese government is worried

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Speaker 2: about this. You can now buy BYD's top selling Seagull

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Speaker 2: in China for eleven thousand dollars. Eleven thousand dollars for

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Speaker 2: a brand new car. The moment you can buy kitchen

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Speaker 2: appliances that are worth more than that, you can go

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Speaker 2: out and buy furniture that's worth more than that. You

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Speaker 2: are now buying a brand new car for eleven thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you right here, right now doesn't end

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Speaker 2: well long term in so many different ways. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: the moment that that becomes a reality, the entire relationship

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Speaker 2: we have with the automobile industry is changing. Dramatic fly

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Speaker 2: Lady Wilson is on her way to the country for

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Speaker 2: the first time ever. She is on the Mike Hosking

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Speaker 2: Breakfast after the news, which.

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Speaker 1: Is next, setting me agenda and talking the big issues,

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Speaker 1: the mic, hosting Breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, life

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Speaker 1: your Way, News, togs Head, be.

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Speaker 2: Seven Pass Takes. Lady Wilson is one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: names in country music these days. But it's the old story. Hits,

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Speaker 2: a brilliant story from living in a trailer outside the

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Speaker 2: recording studio and a guy called Luke Colmmes used to

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Speaker 2: wander buy every now and again, and that's singing right together.

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Speaker 2: These days she wins a Warchie Phil's stadium all over

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Speaker 2: the world. She's coming here for the first time next year.

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Speaker 2: Lady Wilson's with us.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Good morning to you too, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Can I talk about some football with you? Because I

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Speaker 2: saw you it must have been so it was Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: so it must have been last November. You're at the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys the Giants NFL, The Cowboys, the Giants.

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Speaker 6: That was you, right, that was us, That was us.

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Speaker 16: That was insane. I think there were a lot of

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Speaker 16: people watching.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad.

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Speaker 16: I didn't know how many people were tuned in until I.

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Speaker 2: After, because, funnily enough, just over this past weekend, I

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Speaker 2: was watching some of that Hall of Fame in Ohio

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Speaker 2: they do each year. And who has it been announced

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Speaker 2: this week is going to be performing next year at

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame Week? Exactly me.

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Speaker 6: I am. I'm so excited to I tell you what.

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Speaker 16: I've got some family members who were excited that I'm

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Speaker 16: doing some NFL things. They're like, they think I'm actually

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Speaker 16: doing something.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Now you're obviously at an NFL fan.

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Speaker 16: I have to be because I'm marrying a man that

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Speaker 16: played in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So you talk football a lot?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we talked football a lot. I'm learning what's offense,

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Speaker 16: what's the defense? No, I love football. I love I

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Speaker 16: love the atmosphere. I love sitting around and you know,

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Speaker 16: having friends over at the house and drinking some cold

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Speaker 16: course light and uh yeah, it's I don't know, there's

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Speaker 16: an energy to it that I definitely love.

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Speaker 6: It feels like a community thing.

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Speaker 2: You bet. Now the tour that's took about the two

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Speaker 2: of the too is on. You'll come to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at your schedule as far as I can

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Speaker 2: work out, you're pretty much on tour between now and

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Speaker 2: the end of the year. I'm assuming you take Christmas

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Speaker 2: off and then you hit New Zealand and Australia.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right, we're coming. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 16: This is my first time to New Zealand and so

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Speaker 16: I've been hearing for a while. Actually years ago at

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Speaker 16: cmafest that happens in Nashville every June, I met some

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Speaker 16: people from New Zealand and it blew my mind that

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Speaker 16: there were even country music fans over there. So it's

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Speaker 16: about time that that we make our way now.

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Speaker 2: Do tell us about that, because Morgan came a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, and I mean he was really blown

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Speaker 2: away and they just couldn't believe how big it had got.

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Speaker 2: And Luke Holmes came last year. He said the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Does the wood get around the country community in places

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Speaker 2: like Nashville? You know that maybe what you got going

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Speaker 2: here is just a bit more global than you guys

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Speaker 2: might have realized.

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Speaker 16: For sure, we all taught. Me and Luke Holmes go

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Speaker 16: way back, and so do me and Morgan. Luke used

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Speaker 16: to come over to my camper trailer where I lived,

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Speaker 16: my caravan, I think is what y'all probably call it,

1304
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 16: and we would write music together, but we definitely communicate

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01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 16: about it, you know, and we're always like, hey, man,

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Speaker 16: have you been have you been there? Have you done this?

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01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 16: You got to go there. I'm telling you, the fans there,

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01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 16: they're on fire. And so I've heard nothing but great things.

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Speaker 2: Now take me back a little bit, because this I

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01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: was in a campavan caravan thing, and Luke would come

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01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: by paint that picture of that caravan. I mean, were

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Speaker 2: you like down to your last dollar or was it

1313
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: not quite as bad as that?

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Speaker 6: It wasn't nice. It was not a nice one, I'll

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Speaker 6: tell you that, Mike. It was twenty foot long.

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01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 16: It was a flag Staff bumper pool camper trailer caravan,

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01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 16: and I flooded it a few times. The floor was

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01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 16: starting to ride out. It had a lot of issues.

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01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 16: The propane would never last. There was nights I had

1320
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Speaker 16: to sleep in jackets and coats because my furnace couldn't

1321
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Speaker 16: keep up with.

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Speaker 6: The weather in Nashville.

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Speaker 16: But the funny thing is, looking back on it now,

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Speaker 16: I just I knew that I wanted to do this

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 16: so bad. I was gonna I was willing to put

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Speaker 16: up with whatever I had to put up with to

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Speaker 16: be able to do it. It didn't even cross my mind

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Speaker 16: that it was actually hard in the moment. Looking back

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Speaker 16: on it now, I'm like, dang, I did that?

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Speaker 2: Did you haven't like any end date in mind? Because

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: there must have been difficult periods. I mean, how many

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Speaker 2: people go to it? You know, story is old as time, right,

1333
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: how many people go to Nashville? I want to be discovered?

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Speaker 2: Some do, most of them don't. Was there a thought

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01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: process that maybe it was going to get a little

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01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: too hot.

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Speaker 6: I knew it was gonna be hard, but.

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Speaker 16: I knew I had a weird sense of peace in

1339
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 16: my heart that this is what I was supposed to do.

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Speaker 16: I knew that I loved storytelling. I knew at nine

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Speaker 16: years old that I was going to be in Nashville

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Speaker 16: and that I was going to tell stories, And so

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01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 16: it was important for me to like listen, to listen

1344
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 16: to that feeling and see it through. And so I

1345
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 16: didn't know it was gonna look like this, but I

1346
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 16: knew that I was going to write songs.

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Speaker 6: I knew that I was going to.

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Speaker 16: Tell stories, And turns out it looks even better than

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Speaker 16: I could have ever imagined.

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Speaker 2: And that nine year old thing. So your family trip

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: to Nashville was that the tuning point, that was the

1352
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: time you thought, this is what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I knew at five years old when I sang

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 16: a song called Butterfly kiss Is at my kindergarten graduation

1355
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 16: on stage, I knew that there was some about being.

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Speaker 6: On stage that I really loved.

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Speaker 16: And I knew that like I was a bashful little

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01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 16: girl and I would kind of like hide in behind

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 16: my mama's.

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Speaker 6: Legs at the grocery store.

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Speaker 16: But there was something about being on stage in that

1362
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Speaker 16: spotlight where I just kind of like came to life.

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Speaker 6: So I remember that feeling.

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Speaker 16: But then at nine years old is when I wrote

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Speaker 16: my first song, and my parents took me to Nashville

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Speaker 16: and we went to the Grand Ole Opry, and like,

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Speaker 16: I remember who was playing specifically, I remember where I

1368
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 16: was sitting. I remember thinking, like I'm going to be

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 16: up in that circle. And it's just crazy to think that.

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Speaker 16: I mean, even the people that I watched that night,

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Speaker 16: Bill Anderson, Crystal Gale, Little Jimmy Dickens, Jenny Sealey.

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Speaker 6: Jenny Seey actually just passed away this past.

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Speaker 16: Week and I got to go tell her by, and

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01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 16: it's just crazy to think that I was there at

1375
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 16: nine years old and I saw her, and she was

1376
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 16: a part of She was a part of my journey.

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01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 16: She was supposed to be there. I was supposed to

1378
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 16: be there that night to watch her and to have

1379
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Speaker 16: that seed planet to make me feel like maybe I

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01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 16: could do this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen hold on that. Lanny will come back in

1382
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: the mim and give you some dates with the two

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Speaker 2: next year. By the way, Landy Wilson more shortly fifteen past.

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Speaker 1: Eight the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I

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Speaker 1: Hunt Radio, cowed by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks h be sixteen past eight of News Talks It

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Speaker 2: b Landy Wilson is our rum. I guess I wanted Landy.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the caravan, you know,

1389
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: and Luke Combs. So when Luke Colmes is coming over,

1390
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: he's around there and you're playing in right hand and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Was was he well known at that point or not?

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01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 6: He was starting to get some buzz.

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Speaker 16: He was definitely playing some kind of he had like

1394
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 16: an underground following. I guess you could say he was

1395
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 16: playing lots of bars and selling them out and everybody knew.

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Speaker 16: Everybody was starting to hear the name Luke Holmes. But

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01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 16: by then, by the time he got to town. I

1398
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 16: had been in town probably about four or five years

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01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 16: before him, and I still did not really have much

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01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 16: going on, but I had heard him sing at a

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Speaker 16: place on Demumbrian in Nashville called tenruf Revivle, and I

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01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 16: remember walking up to him and I tapped him on

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01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 16: the shoulder while he was playing, and I said, I

1404
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 16: want to write with you. And so he actually he

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01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 16: came back to Nashville. He wasn't even living there at

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 16: that time, and I was one of his very first

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01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 16: co writes in Nashville. So we still talk about that,

1408
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 16: and we're like, man like, just thinking back to those

1409
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 16: those moments. I mean, we go way back, and I'm

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Speaker 16: so proud of him.

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Speaker 2: But You're sitting in the caravan and so he's starting

1412
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: to make it, but you'll not yet. Do you sit

1413
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: there and go, damn, damn, damn. What is it he's

1414
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: got that I don't you know?

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Speaker 16: It's I definitely saw people move to town and pass

1416
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 16: me up left and right. But I still just had

1417
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 16: this this feeling of just like, maybe I haven't lived

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01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 16: enough life yet to tell the kind of stories that

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01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 16: I'm supposed to tell to the kind of fans that

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01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 16: I'm going to have, and so I just tried to

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01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 16: remember that. Now, Don't get me wrong, there were definitely

1422
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 16: times where I was beating my head against the wall,

1423
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 16: being like, dang, I need a publishing so I got

1424
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 16: to pay my bills. Man, I want a record deal.

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 16: I want to be able to do all the things

1426
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 16: that my friends are doing. But I knew that it

1427
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 16: was going to be worth the wait.

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01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: Now tell me what happened then, because when it started

1429
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: to blow up, and it did blow up, how do

1430
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: you How have you handled that?

1431
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,440
Speaker 16: Do you think the best I could?

1432
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 6: No, I think I've actually handled it pretty good.

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Speaker 16: I feel like my life has completely changed, but I

1434
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 16: still feel the same for the most part. I mean,

1435
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 16: at the end of the day, you know, when your

1436
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 16: life changes, you have to change different parts of your life.

1437
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 16: That means just kind of rising to whatever that is

1438
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 16: and just having to like level up in certain areas

1439
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 16: of my life. And so at the end of the day,

1440
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 16: it's it has been a whirlwind, no pun intended. But

1441
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 16: I feel like because I've had so many years under

1442
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 16: my belt. I've been in Nashville now for fourteen years.

1443
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 16: I feel like all those years prepared me for this

1444
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 16: and so I don't know what it would look like

1445
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 16: if I didn't have those years under my belt.

1446
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a life listen, isn't it's I think

1447
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: it's true to say that the great times are better

1448
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: when there have been bad times.

1449
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 5: On the way.

1450
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 6: It makes them that much sweeter.

1451
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: I reckon, Now listen to the thing to know about

1452
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: Nashville took me through this. We had El Dean on

1453
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: the program the other day. So he's got a bar. Right, now,

1454
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 2: you've got a bar. Now. What is it about Nashville?

1455
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: Is that like when you become famous the sum broker

1456
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: in town, that goes right, Oh, you saw X number

1457
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: of million records, so you got to have a bar?

1458
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that, something like that.

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01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 16: You know, whenever I got to Nashville in twenty eleven,

1460
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 16: there was not much of that. And I wasn't even

1461
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 16: old enough to go down to Broadway during that time.

1462
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 16: I was nineteen years old. But it is funny being

1463
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 16: able to like look down the street and you see mine,

1464
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 16: and then you see Jelly Rolls, and then you see

1465
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 16: Al Dean's and you see Miranda's, and it's funny to

1466
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 16: see everybody's pop up.

1467
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 6: And I'm one of them.

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: There you go, are you hands on? By the way,

1469
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 2: do you know what price to cock tales are at

1470
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: a placers? It's just marketing.

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Speaker 16: I couldn't tell you literally to the ascent, but I

1472
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 16: have a great idea of what it is. Nashville is cheap,

1473
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,480
Speaker 16: but the drinks are good and they're worth every every penny, very.

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: Very well sold. Now there seems in country music this

1475
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: this camarindery. I note that I'm sure there are egos,

1476
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: but everyone correct me if I'm wrong, seems genuinely happy

1477
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: with everyone else's success.

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 16: Honestly, for the most part, I feel like that's the

1479
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 16: that's the vibe. It does feel like one big old family.

1480
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1481
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 16: We don't get to see each other all the time.

1482
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 16: It might be when we're on road, on the road

1483
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 16: with each other or at award shows, but everybody's for

1484
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 16: the most part excited for each other and lifting each

1485
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 16: other up and encouraging each other. And you know, if

1486
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 16: there is a bad egg here and there, they show

1487
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 16: their colors pretty quick and we just move on and

1488
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 16: the good ones stick together and continue lifting each other up.

1489
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 16: And and that's what it takes. It's a community.

1490
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: Now, just bring me up to speak because I'm not

1491
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: sure of the date, but the Grand Old Opry. Right, so,

1492
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: you were there as a nine year old. You think

1493
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: one day maybe I'm going to be there and anyway,

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01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: the other day you get handed by none other than

1495
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 2: Riba McIntyre the invite to become a member of the

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 2: Grand Old Opry. So is that you already.

1497
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 6: In I'm already in it. Here's the thing.

1498
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 16: At the end of the day, you can take whatever

1499
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 16: you want to away from me, but you can't take

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Speaker 16: away the fact that I am a Grand Old Opery.

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 6: Remember that right there.

1502
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 16: That is one of the biggest accomplishments that I will

1503
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 16: ever have. And for Riba to break the news to me,

1504
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 16: I mean she is, she's my friend, and she has

1505
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 16: blazed some trails for people like me, and so it's

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Speaker 16: just it's wild. I've always felt like I was a

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01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 16: part of the Grand O Opry family, they just didn't

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 16: know it, and so I'm glad to be officially a

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01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 16: part of the family.

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Speaker 2: Well, we look forward to welcoming you to New Zealand,

1511
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: of course for the first time in the UU. You

1512
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: have great rest of the year and tour and maybe

1513
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: we catch up when you hear, thank you, Lady Wilson.

1514
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 2: She is delightful, isn't she. So it is February. There's

1515
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: something to think about for Christmas. February six and eight.

1516
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: So it's a Friday in a Sunday Spark in Auckland

1517
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: on the sixth and Sunday the eighth at Warf Bank

1518
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: Arena in christ j twenty two, the.

1519
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate Newstalgs'd.

1520
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: Be fifty five years ago, a vehicle was born that

1521
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 2: would reshape the world of luxury forever. We refer, of course,

1522
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: to the fantastic rain Drover. It wasn't just an suv.

1523
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: It was an entirely new idea. Basically, capability and elegance

1524
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: could coexist, that a vehicle could be as at home

1525
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: in a muddy trail as it was outside a five

1526
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: star hotel. And from the very beginning, rain Driver Smash

1527
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 2: had stood for something more than transportation. It's about presence

1528
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: and status and quiet confidence. A name that's come to

1529
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 2: mean refinement without compromise, elegance with purpose, A brand that

1530
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: earned its place, of course in the driveways royalty and

1531
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 2: rebels and taste makers and trailblazers alike, and in this country,

1532
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: I found a home early, very very popular, embraced not

1533
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: just for where it could go, but what it's said

1534
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,839
Speaker 2: about the people who drove it. So rain Driver never shouted,

1535
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: doesn't need to because true icons don't follow trends, they

1536
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: to find them. So over the decades it's remained unmistakable.

1537
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: For fifty five years, rain Drover has led by example,

1538
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: are available at your local range Rover dealer two day

1539
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: pasking speak to the Australian Superannuation so the ASFA, the

1540
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia, first time ever has

1541
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: projected that a thirty year old earning the median wage,

1542
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: which is seventy five thousand dollars, is now on track

1543
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: to retire comfortably. Never been able to say that before ever,

1544
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: And so a thirty year old with the current superbalance

1545
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 2: of thirty thousand dollars steady median income until the retirement

1546
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: age of sixty seven would retire with about six hundred

1547
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: and something thousand dollars in superannuation. And that's how you

1548
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: solve your problem. It's done through the employer and through you.

1549
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: It's compulsory on average in Australia, remembering our Ki Saber,

1550
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: our average balance in this country's thirty something thousand dollars.

1551
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: Average thirty three year old in Australia's got ninety thousand.

1552
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: Average forty r old's got one hundred and seventy thousand,

1553
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: average fifty year old three hundred thousand, average sixty year

1554
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: old five hundred thousand. So it goes. So the answers

1555
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: are there as we sort of continually angst about the

1556
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,520
Speaker 2: age and the amount and the contribution and emergency withdrawals

1557
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. They seem to have

1558
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: the answer and it's right across the taskman now News

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01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: in a couple of moments. Jd Vance, who's on holiday there,

1560
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: has been working a little bit with David Lammy because

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: he's staying at his Grace and Favor house, which by

1562
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: the way is beautiful house. Look it up, belongs to

1563
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: the state. But you can hang there a few the

1564
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: Foreign Minister anyway, it's all about Alaska and Saturday morning

1565
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: our time, Rod little with the details in the heat Wave.

1566
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: Next the Breakfast show, Kiwi's trust to stay in the know,

1567
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: the mic asking Breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, News

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: togs headb you weird.

1569
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: Things out of China. Weird thing number one. A new

1570
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: robot shop opened over the weekend in Beijing, and they

1571
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 2: sell mechanical butlers that look like Elbert Einstein, among other things.

1572
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 2: It's called robot More. They've got one hundred types of robots.

1573
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: They also once you bought your robot, they offer sales,

1574
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: spare parts, and maintenance. I don't know what sort of

1575
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: maintenance a robot needs, but you'll be able to interact

1576
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 2: with a big range of robots and dogs and chess players.

1577
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: The dogs and chess players are also robots. It's next

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: to a themed restaurant, robot Mall, and you go into

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: the restaurant and you are served by robots, and the

1580
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: food is cooked by robots. And the government is planning

1581
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: a trillion one fund for AI and robot startups. Would

1582
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: you buy an Albert Einstein robot? But the funny thing

1583
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: about that is that's not the weirdest thing from China more.

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01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: Shortly twenty three to nine.

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 14: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance Peace of mind

1586
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 14: for New Zealand business period.

1587
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: We must to use the UK go rod little.

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 5: Very good morning to you mate, mate.

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Speaker 2: So I'm watching them. I mean, first of all, your

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01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: security for JD. Fancy's on holiday, I mean, what a

1591
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: mess that is. But then I'm watching them fishing and

1592
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: is a Lammy's grace and favor which looks like a

1593
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: very nice house. And they seem to get on famously

1594
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 2: despite the fact they come from completely different political perspective.

1595
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: What's the magic? What's gelling there?

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01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, I think is the answer to that. They

1597
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 3: both have a deep and abiding Christian faith. I am

1598
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 3: not it has to be set David Lammy's greatest fan.

1599
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 3: He has set some remarkably stupid things over the years,

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 3: but it has to be said that in his role

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01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 3: as Foreign Secretary, he has handled himself with a great

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 3: deal of tact and diplomacy, and he's managed to get

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01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 3: shade events on side. They are good friends, you know,

1604
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 3: there's no doubting about it. They're they're achieving, fishing together

1605
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 3: and attending Mass together, which is I think that's the

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 3: bond which is between them. Both come from poor backgrounds

1607
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,440
Speaker 3: and both felt like outsiders for a long while in politics,

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 3: and I think that's also helped. And it has to

1609
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: be said, you know, the Trump Advance regime, though it

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01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 3: is flaky on foreign issues. Sometimes you can't judge where

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: it's going to go. It's quite pro UK. You know,

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: they do like Trump, dwells in the UK, and it

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01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: seems that JD. Vance's family, a Scottish and Irish I think,

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: also rather likes the UK.

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Speaker 2: How have they handled the rather difficult part, which is

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01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 2: when Trump and Potent meet in Russia and they perhaps

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01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: decide something that doesn't involve really Ukraine or Europe. How

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: does Lammy handle that?

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01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 3: I think that that Lammie will be making the point

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 3: that if you allow Peutin to think that he has won,

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01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,839
Speaker 3: then Ukraine won't be the last, and he will continue

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01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 3: to make that diplomatically. But I think in the minds

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01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 3: of Sekir Starma and the minds of David Lammy, I

1624
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 3: think they know that whatever they sect doesn't make the

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01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 3: slightest difference to what Trump and Trump, or indeed Peter

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01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: will do when they meet on Friday. It's it's just

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01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 3: as with the Middle East, the UK has become a

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 3: sort of irrelevance.

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting scumbag shoplifters. I wouldn't have thought that was

1630
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: necessary for the police to pop around and have a wood.

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01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 3: It just it's so enraged me. I spoke to the shopkeeper.

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01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: This is a shopkeeper in Wrexham. You put up a

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01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 3: sign in his shop saying because of scumbag shopkeepers, I've

1634
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: had to lock up the cabinets, so just ask for

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01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 3: assistance opening them. And the police cap records said you

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01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:46,959
Speaker 3: may have offended someone offended who a shoplift. The irony,

1637
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 3: of course, of course, being that he had been shoplifted

1638
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 3: five times in the last year and on only one

1639
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 3: occasion did the police bother to turn up.

1640
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: It's done, really, it's speaking of the police, that thing.

1641
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: I've the weekend with the five hundred and twenty one arrests.

1642
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 2: Does that play well for the government that they said

1643
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: this group's illegal if you support them, are going to

1644
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: do something about it. So they all turn out in

1645
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: Parliament Square and they round a few of them up.

1646
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 2: Does that play well?

1647
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: It plays well with a certain COULTERI the pro Israel

1648
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 3: lobby and possibly the country at large, which is pretty

1649
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: sick of these Palestinian demos. It doesn't play very well

1650
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 3: with the left of his own party, nor with the

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01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 3: free speech brigade, which I suppose I'm one really that

1652
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: you know, you don't knock people up for sale stuff. No,

1653
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 3: Palasco in Action. Of course, Palestinian Action has been called

1654
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,440
Speaker 3: a terrorist group because of what worked criminal and terroristic

1655
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 3: activities at British air bases. So there is that we

1656
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 3: ought to mention that.

1657
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: I know the Middle East is important, and Trump and

1658
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: Putin is important, but what's really important Rod, as you

1659
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: would well understand as a seasoned player in this particular field,

1660
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: is of course the weather. And I'm reading today that

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01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 2: England and England and Wales will have the best of

1662
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 2: the sunshine. Are you having the best of the sunshine.

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01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 3: It's absolutely cleaning down here. Maybe it's quite warm, but

1664
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm due to go to London in it in a

1665
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 3: couple of days time, and I'm not looking forward to

1666
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be thirty five degrees, packed with people,

1667
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 3: sticky and vile, and already the warnings are going out

1668
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 3: don't go out, and oh you'll drop dead and all

1669
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. We're just not cut out for

1670
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 3: this weather, mate.

1671
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 12: No.

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01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: And when you say this weather, last time we were

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 2: talking about a week ago, it was storm Floris. Of course,

1674
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 2: So between Flori's between the heat and this allegedly is

1675
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: your fourth heat wave. Is it weird or is it not?

1676
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 3: I think I don't think there's much doubt that it's

1677
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: a lot hotter than I remember in my youth, a

1678
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 3: lot hotter. And I remember the wonderful summer of nineteen

1679
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 3: seventy six where you know, we had unbroken hot weather

1680
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 3: and no rain whatsoever from May until September, and a

1681
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 3: national crisis was called. The whe all loved it. But

1682
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 3: even then the temperatures up here in the North of

1683
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 3: England weren't getting really above twenty four to twenty five.

1684
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 3: Now thirty four thirty five is quite regular for London

1685
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 3: and thirty for roundabout here.

1686
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: All right, man, go well and we'll catch up with

1687
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: you maybe from London on Thursday, Rod Little. It is

1688
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: seventeen two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B fourteen to nine. I should tell you that on

1692
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: Russian Aarrah Ali, who you might have heard of, but

1693
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, because she was the homelessness Minister in Britain.

1694
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 2: She unfortunately is no longer the homelessness Minister because she

1695
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: was accused of hypocrisy over the way she handled rent

1696
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 2: increases on how she owns in East London, so they

1697
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: got a bit of angsty the various homelessness charities and

1698
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: opposition politicians she goes at all times. I followed all

1699
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: relevant legal requirements, but that remaining in the role would

1700
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: be a distraction from the ambitious work of this government.

1701
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: She ended her ten it fixed term contract in order

1702
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: to sell up, which you're allowed to do. Of course,

1703
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: what you're not allowed to do is in your tenants

1704
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: fixed term contract saying you're going to sell up, and

1705
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: you don't, and you then relist the house for rent

1706
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: at a higher price within six months, and made even

1707
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: worse by the fact you of the Homelessness Minister back

1708
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: to China. So if you thought buying an Elberdelle Einstein

1709
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: robot was slightly unusual, here's the new trend. Do you reckon?

1710
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: This is a trend that would ever take off in

1711
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: New Zealand. So they got unemployment issues in that particular

1712
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: part of the world, particularly among the young and the

1713
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: young or youth employment rate. Unemployment rates more than fourteen percent,

1714
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: so some adults would rather pay to go into an

1715
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 2: office than just be stuck at home. Hence my question,

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Speaker 2: do you think that would ever happen in New Zealand?

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Speaker 2: Do you know many New Zealand unemployed people who think,

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Speaker 2: I know, I'll give you some money and I'll go

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Speaker 2: into the office. So this guy I'm reading about, he

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Speaker 2: had a food business which fell over last year. So

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Speaker 2: in April this year he started to pay seven dollars

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Speaker 2: a day to go into a mock up office run

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Speaker 2: by a business called Pretend to Work Company.

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Speaker 18: So I feel like I've been to a few of those, but.

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Speaker 2: They don't call themselves Pretend to Work company. So he

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Speaker 2: goes in every day and he joins his colleagues who

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Speaker 2: are also paying seven bucks a day at the Pretend

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Speaker 2: to Work company, and they sit around and you see

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Speaker 2: these businesses in all over China at the moment, Shanghai, Nanjing, Wuhan, Sheengdu, Shanxing.

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Speaker 2: More often they look like fully functioning office officers. They've

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Speaker 2: got computers, they've got internet access, they've got meeting rooms,

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Speaker 2: they've got tea rooms. Occasionally you get some snacks and

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Speaker 2: some drinks involved, but apart from that, you just go

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Speaker 2: into the office each day to the pretend to work.

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Speaker 2: Presumably you can have meetings of course you can. You

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Speaker 2: can have a pretend meeting. That's a work company.

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Speaker 9: Sounds great.

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to have a meeting, Who doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to have a meeting, and who doesn't want to go

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01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: to work and pretend to go to work and to

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Speaker 2: pay the person at the place that you're going to

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Speaker 2: while you remain unemployed. So which is it? Which is weird?

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Speaker 2: At the robot or pretending to go to work?

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Speaker 1: Ten to night the mic hosting breakfast with Veda Retirement

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Speaker 2: B Yeah, if you go, Mike, there are plenty of

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Speaker 2: people in the workforce in New Zealand who actually go

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Speaker 2: to work and produce nothing, Mike. And of course we

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Speaker 2: have those who go to the office to pretend to

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Speaker 2: work and get paid pretend to work sounds like every

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Speaker 2: council in New Zealand.

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Speaker 16: Ever.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just to round out the Australia thing,

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Speaker 2: I told you about the superannuation a couple of moments ago.

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Speaker 2: Do you know they've got the same problems that we do.

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Speaker 2: As a poll out yesterday that despite all and this

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Speaker 2: is the attitude thing, despite all the stuff around you,

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01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: interest rates are coming down inflations, the lowest it has

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Speaker 2: been in years. Blah blah blah. Everyone in Australia out

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Speaker 2: of the pole yesterday still says cost of living is

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Speaker 2: the number one worry forty one percent. Keeping the cost

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Speaker 2: of living low housing and rental accessibility is second at

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Speaker 2: ten percent. So next to no one worries about that.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's worried about the cost of living and everything's gone up.

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Speaker 2: See it's not as it's not the green grass you

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Speaker 2: think it is. The CPI. The inflo rate rose nineteen

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Speaker 2: percent over the last four years right in Australia, nineteen percent,

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Speaker 2: our wages fourteen percent. So they've gone backwards materially in

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Speaker 2: the last four years. All the stuff that we worry about,

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Speaker 2: they've got exactly the same problem across their eggs up

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Speaker 2: fifty percent, oils and fats up fifty percent, bred up

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Speaker 2: thirty percent, diry up twenty five percent, insurance up forty percent,

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Speaker 2: household fuels up thirty eight percent, automotive fuels up twenty

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Speaker 2: four percent. And here's the insight, and this is why

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Speaker 2: it's psychological. This is an economist. Consumers will basically look

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Speaker 2: at a few key anchor prices, things like utility bills,

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Speaker 2: petrol prices, groceries or rent and those things leave an

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: outsized impression on them. And that's why everyone worries about

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01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: the cost of living. It means one it's real, but

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Speaker 2: two you've focused in You've got your rates bill the

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Speaker 2: other day and you're thinking that's a disaster, that's a

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Speaker 2: massive increase. I can't afford it. It's dreadful, and you're

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Speaker 2: focus in on that, or your powerbil or your butter price,

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Speaker 2: that obsession we had with butter a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: If you're under forty, they say, you probably haven't seen

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01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: anything like this there where you don't understand it. Therefore

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Speaker 2: it must be dreadful. Half the respondents in another survey,

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Speaker 2: this is the NAB, the nab, the big Bank. They've

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Speaker 2: denied themselves micro treats. We're talking about this earlier on

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Speaker 2: in the program. You know, the conscientious saber slash spender.

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Speaker 2: You deny yourself micro treats. Four and ten had delayed

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Speaker 2: or made more modest holiday plans, and one and three

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Speaker 2: had delayed a medical appointments. So everything that we're sort

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Speaker 2: of anxsting about in the country at the moment is

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Speaker 2: going on across there, And that's before you get to

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Speaker 2: the fact that the medium price in a place like

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Speaker 2: Auckland at the moment is eight hundred and something thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars for a house in Australia's one point sevens twice

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Speaker 2: the price. So you go, oh, yeah, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be a nurse and I earned thirty percent more. Well,

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Speaker 2: you don't earn twice as much to pay for your house.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting, isn't it. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: It's AFL Grand Final announcement time this morning and one

1805
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Speaker 2: of the things they do at the AFL Grand Final

1806
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Speaker 2: is they have a half time show and they do

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Speaker 2: tend to get some reasonably big names. And the name

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Speaker 2: they've announced this morning for the halftime show is Snoop

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Speaker 2: Doll and seems to turn up literally everywhere. I saw

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Speaker 2: him on the back of the bus yesterday was it

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Speaker 2: the day before, next to Martha Stewart and they were

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Speaker 2: advertising was it big lighters? They're advertising? How the hell

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Speaker 2: does any how you strike a deal when you're one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twelve like Martha Stewart and you're off your

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 2: head like Snoop Dolly, let's do a deal with the

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Speaker 2: big lighters and you end up on the back of

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Speaker 2: a bus and music and advertising book lighters. Anyway, part

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Speaker 2: of the problem with the halftime shows at the AFL

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Speaker 2: is they tend to be fairly low ren and not

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Speaker 2: that good. It is claimed, and have a listen to

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Speaker 2: this and see whether you agree, is claim that in

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven when Meat Loafs did it, this is the

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Speaker 2: worst AFL halftime show of all time. Yeah, you're thinking that,

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Speaker 2: like we are, that's not bad. It's not great, but

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Speaker 2: it's not bad. But here's the problem. If you take

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Speaker 2: the things that you're listening to now that are actually good,

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Speaker 2: which is the band and the backing singers and the

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01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: eve old meat by himself, here's what you get. He's

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Speaker 2: he's at the stage of his career at that point

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Speaker 2: clearly where it didn't matter and he had never heard

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Speaker 2: of Australia and there was money in the band council.

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Speaker 10: What did he get?

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Speaker 2: I do remember I was telling you I reckon twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: It's probably when he came and saw money because of

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Speaker 2: wed him on the show twenty eleven. What was there?

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Speaker 2: Fourteen fifteen years ago. It's about righting. It roughly feels

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Speaker 2: about right to me. And he came and he's on

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Speaker 2: a walking stick, but he was full of the joys

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Speaker 2: of life. He was very nine. Was it twenty ten? Hey?

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Speaker 2: That wasn't there?

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Speaker 5: Was I?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Within a year, it's those my guard railty statesmen. I

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Speaker 2: do the Needi guars, Liza within a year. It's about

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01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: right anyway. He's likable guy. Old met plenty of me

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Speaker 2: for the day. Surely you can't handle anymore? Can you can?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 2: Can you back tomorrow? Happy Days.

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