1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,827 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:18,587 Speaker 2: Ed B Arena in London. These the stunning scenes this morning. 4 00:00:20,987 --> 00:00:31,227 Speaker 3: Size that shot dead play everyway battles you won. Sorry, 5 00:00:32,307 --> 00:00:39,587 Speaker 3: that is a syn very savage growling. 6 00:00:39,267 --> 00:00:44,787 Speaker 2: A fan and baby lolad rage upbeating and Suner. 7 00:00:45,347 --> 00:00:51,667 Speaker 3: That's the opportunity of challenging for the undescuted Evyweight Championship 8 00:00:51,747 --> 00:00:54,307 Speaker 3: of the World that was. 9 00:00:54,387 --> 00:00:58,147 Speaker 2: On design this morning. Joseph Parker beat him this morning 10 00:00:58,227 --> 00:01:02,107 Speaker 2: in stunning scenes at the Oto Arena in London against 11 00:01:02,147 --> 00:01:05,347 Speaker 2: Farbio Wardley. This is obviously a vital fight for Parker 12 00:01:05,947 --> 00:01:09,107 Speaker 2: and Wardley of course, as to whether who was going 13 00:01:09,187 --> 00:01:11,947 Speaker 2: to get that spot for the world title fight against 14 00:01:12,027 --> 00:01:17,307 Speaker 2: Alexander Usik and Joseph Parker loses in the eleventh round 15 00:01:17,427 --> 00:01:20,507 Speaker 2: via TKO. Joining us now from the Go To Arena 16 00:01:20,587 --> 00:01:24,267 Speaker 2: in London is Liam Napier, who was on the ground. Liam. 17 00:01:24,307 --> 00:01:28,507 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time afternoon, Elliott. Were you stunned by 18 00:01:28,587 --> 00:01:29,147 Speaker 2: that result? 19 00:01:31,867 --> 00:01:35,427 Speaker 4: Well, it's heavyweight boxing. Anything's possible, but there was certainly 20 00:01:35,467 --> 00:01:37,987 Speaker 4: an upset. Joe Parker was a hot favorite with the 21 00:01:38,027 --> 00:01:43,067 Speaker 4: bookies and on paper he had all the experience, and 22 00:01:43,747 --> 00:01:47,147 Speaker 4: he was widely considered to be the superior skilled boxer. 23 00:01:47,227 --> 00:01:51,627 Speaker 4: But everyone also knew that Fabia Wadley has equalizing power, 24 00:01:51,787 --> 00:01:56,387 Speaker 4: devastating right hands, and that's ultimately how he got the 25 00:01:56,467 --> 00:01:56,907 Speaker 4: job done. 26 00:01:57,467 --> 00:01:59,947 Speaker 2: It felt like Parker and looking at the scoring, at 27 00:02:00,027 --> 00:02:02,547 Speaker 2: least they were doing undersign with the commentators that Parker 28 00:02:02,627 --> 00:02:04,947 Speaker 2: was ahead of the game to that point, at least 29 00:02:04,987 --> 00:02:06,147 Speaker 2: on points lad in the fight was. 30 00:02:06,147 --> 00:02:10,347 Speaker 5: That's all right? Yes, I think he was well up 31 00:02:10,507 --> 00:02:12,747 Speaker 5: on all cards, probably four. 32 00:02:12,747 --> 00:02:19,027 Speaker 4: Maybe even five rounds with the judges. But look, it 33 00:02:19,147 --> 00:02:22,387 Speaker 4: was a very back and forth contest. Joe came out 34 00:02:22,427 --> 00:02:24,307 Speaker 4: with a flurry in the first round, but then he 35 00:02:24,427 --> 00:02:27,427 Speaker 4: was stunned in the second and actually lost his mouth 36 00:02:27,467 --> 00:02:30,227 Speaker 4: guard which allowed him time to recover. Then I think 37 00:02:30,267 --> 00:02:33,987 Speaker 4: he dominated largely the middle rounds and then Fabio Wadly 38 00:02:34,187 --> 00:02:37,547 Speaker 4: Justice he did in his last fight against Australian Justice 39 00:02:37,587 --> 00:02:43,627 Speaker 4: Hooney rallied late, landed those devastating punches and Joe was stopped. 40 00:02:44,067 --> 00:02:46,867 Speaker 4: I think it was one minute's fifty odd seconds into 41 00:02:46,947 --> 00:02:50,387 Speaker 4: the penultimate round too. Yeah, rob him, will not rob 42 00:02:50,467 --> 00:02:55,587 Speaker 4: him to take away that elusive crack at the undisputed 43 00:02:55,667 --> 00:02:57,307 Speaker 4: heavyweight king Alexander Usik. 44 00:02:57,547 --> 00:03:00,547 Speaker 2: Were you surprised by the decision to wave off the fight? 45 00:03:00,627 --> 00:03:02,707 Speaker 2: Gavin Parker was ahead on points at that point, and 46 00:03:03,387 --> 00:03:06,267 Speaker 2: there was no eight count. It was basically fights done. 47 00:03:07,867 --> 00:03:08,067 Speaker 5: Yeah. 48 00:03:08,107 --> 00:03:09,907 Speaker 4: Look, I think it was an early stoppage. I don't 49 00:03:09,907 --> 00:03:11,427 Speaker 4: think there's any disputing that. 50 00:03:12,107 --> 00:03:15,747 Speaker 5: But was on the ropes. He was taking a lot 51 00:03:15,787 --> 00:03:18,427 Speaker 5: of punishment and he wasn't firing a lot back. 52 00:03:18,507 --> 00:03:22,547 Speaker 4: I think one of the issues, one of the question 53 00:03:22,667 --> 00:03:26,067 Speaker 4: marks is Waterley's last little flurry. Probably his last three 54 00:03:26,107 --> 00:03:29,987 Speaker 4: punches were blocked, they didn't actually connect. Maybe in hindsight, 55 00:03:30,067 --> 00:03:33,027 Speaker 4: Parker could have should have taken a knee that would 56 00:03:33,027 --> 00:03:35,267 Speaker 4: have allowed him time to recover, and he was a 57 00:03:35,347 --> 00:03:38,187 Speaker 4: hit on all the cards, so he still could have 58 00:03:38,227 --> 00:03:41,587 Speaker 4: won the fights. But I think when you look around 59 00:03:41,627 --> 00:03:43,867 Speaker 4: the world that there is a bit of an outcry 60 00:03:43,987 --> 00:03:48,667 Speaker 4: from a lot of noted but boxing pundits and certainly 61 00:03:48,707 --> 00:03:51,227 Speaker 4: New Zealand fans who felt that stoppage was too early. 62 00:03:51,827 --> 00:03:54,187 Speaker 2: Have you spoken to the Parker camp, what's their reaction 63 00:03:54,307 --> 00:03:54,867 Speaker 2: to the defeat. 64 00:03:56,027 --> 00:03:59,347 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've just emerged from the post fight press conferences, 65 00:03:59,467 --> 00:04:05,147 Speaker 4: and Parker's obviously very disappointed with the result. He was 66 00:04:06,587 --> 00:04:09,387 Speaker 4: he credited Fabia Wadley with the victory and committed him 67 00:04:09,427 --> 00:04:11,667 Speaker 4: on that but he said he felt fine, that he 68 00:04:11,827 --> 00:04:13,787 Speaker 4: wanted to carry on at the time of the stoppage. 69 00:04:13,867 --> 00:04:18,107 Speaker 4: So I guess you could say he was disappointed or 70 00:04:18,147 --> 00:04:22,467 Speaker 4: begrudging of the way the fight finished, but I guess 71 00:04:22,507 --> 00:04:23,667 Speaker 4: it was taken out of his hands. 72 00:04:24,067 --> 00:04:26,147 Speaker 2: So we're too now for Joseph Parker. Do you think 73 00:04:26,227 --> 00:04:30,387 Speaker 2: Liam that was a shot at the undisputed heavyweight World 74 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:34,187 Speaker 2: Championship about against Alexander USA. So where does Joseph Parker 75 00:04:34,267 --> 00:04:34,587 Speaker 2: go now? 76 00:04:36,347 --> 00:04:40,507 Speaker 4: Look, it is a devastating blow outlet because Parker, over 77 00:04:40,587 --> 00:04:43,387 Speaker 4: the course of since twenty twenty two, has last loss 78 00:04:43,627 --> 00:04:45,907 Speaker 4: to Joe Joyce, has gone on a six fight wind streak. 79 00:04:46,867 --> 00:04:52,307 Speaker 4: He's beaten some of the most vaunted, avoided heavyweights to put. 80 00:04:52,227 --> 00:04:56,147 Speaker 5: Himself right in the queue for that shot. 81 00:04:56,187 --> 00:05:00,307 Speaker 4: At Usik, he was undeniably the second best heavyweight on 82 00:05:00,427 --> 00:05:03,187 Speaker 4: the planet in terms of his status at least and 83 00:05:03,347 --> 00:05:05,227 Speaker 4: now he really does go back to the pack, and 84 00:05:05,307 --> 00:05:08,027 Speaker 4: it is a very congest pack. He has one more 85 00:05:08,347 --> 00:05:12,347 Speaker 4: fight on his contract with Frank Warren and Queensberry Promotions. 86 00:05:12,867 --> 00:05:16,867 Speaker 4: So and Parker at the press Currant said he still 87 00:05:16,947 --> 00:05:18,947 Speaker 4: is the hunger and heart and desire to carry on. 88 00:05:19,747 --> 00:05:21,507 Speaker 4: But he's been in a lot of wars, and he's 89 00:05:21,507 --> 00:05:24,907 Speaker 4: thirty three years old, and while he's probably in the 90 00:05:24,987 --> 00:05:29,347 Speaker 4: prime of his career, he also has his faculties and 91 00:05:29,387 --> 00:05:31,987 Speaker 4: everything to consider. He's got five kids and a wife. 92 00:05:32,547 --> 00:05:35,787 Speaker 4: So I think he'll have one more fight and depending 93 00:05:35,827 --> 00:05:38,667 Speaker 4: on that, how that goes will very much determine its future. 94 00:05:38,747 --> 00:05:42,907 Speaker 4: But it is hard to see him, you know, going 95 00:05:43,027 --> 00:05:46,467 Speaker 4: back and trying to go on another run to get 96 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,947 Speaker 4: a second crack at another world title shot. 97 00:05:50,307 --> 00:05:52,387 Speaker 2: Well, we see what's he going to do? I mean, 98 00:05:52,667 --> 00:05:54,107 Speaker 2: what's the quality of fighter he's going to have to 99 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:56,387 Speaker 2: fight in that next fight to put himself back up there? 100 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:58,067 Speaker 2: Can he do it on one fighter line? Or is 101 00:05:58,107 --> 00:06:00,467 Speaker 2: it back to the bottom of the pack for Joseph Parker. 102 00:06:01,667 --> 00:06:02,187 Speaker 5: Potentially. 103 00:06:02,747 --> 00:06:04,547 Speaker 4: I don't think he goes back to the bottom of 104 00:06:04,587 --> 00:06:07,547 Speaker 4: the pack, won'ty stretch, but it is a big setback. 105 00:06:08,027 --> 00:06:11,227 Speaker 5: Look, there's a number of desirable fights out there he. 106 00:06:12,987 --> 00:06:16,747 Speaker 4: From a rematch perspective, there's marketable fights potentially against guys 107 00:06:16,827 --> 00:06:21,867 Speaker 4: like Joshua Dillian White, a number of those British fighters, 108 00:06:22,707 --> 00:06:27,107 Speaker 4: Derrek Trasaer he's fought twice before, and that was mentioned 109 00:06:27,267 --> 00:06:29,747 Speaker 4: of a potential rematch with Wardley at some point. I 110 00:06:29,827 --> 00:06:33,267 Speaker 4: think it was an amazing fight, back and forth, brilliant, 111 00:06:33,307 --> 00:06:36,067 Speaker 4: absorbing contest. I think people would love to see it again, 112 00:06:36,587 --> 00:06:40,387 Speaker 4: but who knows what happens between Wardley and Usik. So 113 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:43,667 Speaker 4: for now, Joe, I guess we'll take time to recover 114 00:06:43,787 --> 00:06:46,827 Speaker 4: and take stock and we will see him again, but 115 00:06:47,427 --> 00:06:49,267 Speaker 4: it'll probably take him some time to get over this 116 00:06:49,387 --> 00:06:52,307 Speaker 4: first and foremost and it is a major, major setback 117 00:06:52,347 --> 00:06:52,907 Speaker 4: for his career. 118 00:06:53,107 --> 00:06:56,027 Speaker 2: And will we get that Wardley fight after all? 119 00:06:57,227 --> 00:07:00,747 Speaker 5: I think we will. Yes, there's no one else really. 120 00:07:02,147 --> 00:07:05,347 Speaker 4: That Usak could fight, and if he doesn't, then he 121 00:07:05,387 --> 00:07:08,827 Speaker 4: will have to vacate the WBO title. Wardley will probably 122 00:07:08,867 --> 00:07:13,387 Speaker 4: be elevated straight to champion. Joe was that the interim champion, 123 00:07:13,747 --> 00:07:17,827 Speaker 4: so he's lost that status. But I think now particularly 124 00:07:18,347 --> 00:07:21,067 Speaker 4: Wardley's a very exciting fighter and he's someone that people 125 00:07:21,147 --> 00:07:24,867 Speaker 4: want to see, and I think that fight could easily 126 00:07:24,987 --> 00:07:28,907 Speaker 4: be put at a stadium like Wembley. Usik he's fought 127 00:07:28,947 --> 00:07:31,747 Speaker 4: in the UK number of times, so in many ways 128 00:07:31,787 --> 00:07:34,947 Speaker 4: it's a much easier fight to market than a park 129 00:07:35,027 --> 00:07:38,267 Speaker 4: of the Usk fight, and Usik has come out and 130 00:07:38,307 --> 00:07:40,027 Speaker 4: said that he wants to fight on for another couple 131 00:07:40,027 --> 00:07:41,987 Speaker 4: of years, that he wants to remain undisputed. 132 00:07:42,067 --> 00:07:44,667 Speaker 5: So if he's a man of his words, he will 133 00:07:44,707 --> 00:07:45,267 Speaker 5: fight Wardley. 134 00:07:45,827 --> 00:07:47,587 Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be fascinated to see what happens 135 00:07:47,747 --> 00:07:50,307 Speaker 2: with both of those fighters. Legham Napier, thanks so much 136 00:07:50,347 --> 00:07:52,867 Speaker 2: for joining us at early hours of the morning in London. 137 00:07:53,147 --> 00:07:55,427 Speaker 2: Save travels. We'll see you in Chicago in a few days. 138 00:07:56,547 --> 00:07:57,307 Speaker 5: Will in the cheers. 139 00:07:57,347 --> 00:07:59,947 Speaker 2: Elliott, thank you very much, sir Liam Napier joining us 140 00:08:00,187 --> 00:08:04,307 Speaker 2: on the program this afternoon. He has covered at for 141 00:08:04,387 --> 00:08:05,987 Speaker 2: the New Zealand Herald as well, and you can view 142 00:08:05,987 --> 00:08:08,867 Speaker 2: as match report from the Two Arena or the fight 143 00:08:08,987 --> 00:08:11,867 Speaker 2: report I should say from the Two Arena in London. 144 00:08:12,627 --> 00:08:15,827 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 145 00:08:15,907 --> 00:08:19,187 Speaker 1: to News Talks it B weekends from midday or follow 146 00:08:19,267 --> 00:08:20,827 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio