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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Oliver Peterson sixty hour per life

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Speaker 1: resenters with us Aloali. Hello, Heather, So why did he

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Speaker 1: go for the old um non parole then.

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Speaker 2: Well, as you heard him explain, there she'll be in

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Speaker 2: twenty two hours a day of solitary confinements. So they're

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Speaker 2: harsh and strict conditions. But you know what, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's enough. I really do not think it is enough.

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Speaker 2: Because he also goes on to say that this falls

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Speaker 2: into the worst category for murder and attempted murder. The

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Speaker 2: victim impacts statement read in court revealed the immense the

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Speaker 2: ongoing suffering felt by the loved ones of Patterson's victims.

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Speaker 2: Now this happens, It's not as though this hasn't been

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Speaker 2: a judgment that has been made in a sentencing. But

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Speaker 2: in thirty three years time, all of a sudden, there

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Speaker 2: will be the realization that it is not long enough.

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Speaker 2: They will she will never be released. But could put

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Speaker 2: the family sor all this pain in this anguish again

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Speaker 2: unnecessarily in twenty and twenty five years time. So from

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Speaker 2: my point of view, it should be life should be life.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Patterson has never revealed exactly her motivation as to

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Speaker 2: why she did this, and she is the only one

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Speaker 2: who knows why she actually committed these crimes. She didn't

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Speaker 2: even reveal anything during the sentencing process or during the

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Speaker 2: court case. But you've heard there from the judge. She'll

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Speaker 2: be in solitary confinement for twenty two hours a day

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Speaker 2: for the next thirty three years. And the only other

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Speaker 2: person in that cell that or in that particular part

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Speaker 2: of the prison that she is going to be and

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Speaker 2: if she's not successful on some sort of appeal, is

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Speaker 2: a terrorist. So there wouldn't be a great conversation to

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Speaker 2: be out the next.

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Speaker 1: A terrorist who has a history of attacking other inmates.

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Speaker 1: So why did they decide that these are the two

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Speaker 1: that need to have little chats with each other?

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Speaker 2: Exactly right? I don't get that. I just think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, he talks tough. He delivered it for fifty minutes,

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Speaker 2: Justice Christopher Beale, But I just think he could have

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Speaker 2: been a bit tougher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, you're a tough man to please, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, how do you guys feel about the Sydney at

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Speaker 1: I a getting a million bucks from the Aussie government.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is all part of the building relations is

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Speaker 2: in it between our countries. And you might think that

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Speaker 2: I'm joining some pretty wild conspiracy theories or dots here, Heather,

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Speaker 2: but hear me out for a moment. We're about to

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Speaker 2: open a brand new airport in Western Sydney which does

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Speaker 2: not at this stage you'll have a confirmed airline flying

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Speaker 2: in and out. Air New Zealand have said they'll do it,

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Speaker 2: so has Singapore Airline, so has Quantus. But I believe

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Speaker 2: this is all about also creating a little bit of traffic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's not going to be any issue in

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Speaker 2: terms of obviously Kiweis wanted to come to Australia and

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Speaker 2: vice versa. But if you think about it, you've got

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Speaker 2: something like six hundred odd thousand New Zealanders living in

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Speaker 2: this country, a lot of them in Western Sydney, so

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Speaker 2: that does make sense opening this airport next year. We

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Speaker 2: need to make sure that Air New Zealand wants to

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Speaker 2: fly to Sydney and back out over in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and keep bringing Kiwis across the ditch. That's my joining

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Speaker 2: at the dots as to why this is happening. It's

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Speaker 2: not getting I'll be blunt front page news here in

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Speaker 2: Australia or widely discussed on talk back around the country

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Speaker 2: at the moment. But I think it's just about building

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Speaker 2: better relations.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, okay, Now what's your problem with the Aussie

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Speaker 1: flag business.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's unfortunately becoming a symbol of division personally,

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Speaker 2: and you send that sort of hijacked at those rallies

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Speaker 2: last weekend. You just sent a price last week take

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Speaker 2: it into the Senate. She's told it's a prop. She

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Speaker 2: can't take it in there. Warren Mundin, who is now

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Speaker 2: of the Center of Independent Studies, he was a Liberal

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Speaker 2: Party candidate. He believes that it is an Australian that

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Speaker 2: we're banning the Australian flag from the Senate because you

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Speaker 2: can take all sorts of props, like you could take

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Speaker 2: a fish into the Senate if you're like you'd got

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Speaker 2: a whole fish or a surfboard, but you can't take

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Speaker 2: it in the Australian flag, which look, yeah, there's an

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Speaker 2: argument that's a bit stupid. Let's be blunts. But unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: the whole idea of this flag obviously is to unite

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Speaker 2: our country and it just seems to be being used

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Speaker 2: as a symbol of division, and that is making it

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Speaker 2: a lot harder I think for all Australians to well,

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Speaker 2: ultimately what they want to do is unite under that flag.

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Speaker 1: Well, who do you blame for that? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Now, honestly everybody. I also blame the Prime Minister for

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Speaker 2: this because he stands with three flags behind himself, so

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Speaker 2: he's prepared to basically say this flag doesn't represent all.

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Speaker 2: So that gives everybody else the opportunity to say this

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Speaker 2: flag doesn't represent all. And fortunately that flag our flag,

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Speaker 2: the national flag.

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Speaker 1: I see what you were saying. Sorry, when you said

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Speaker 1: three flags, I thought three Australian flags, but you're saying

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Speaker 1: three different kinds of flags.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, he stands out of the vigenous flag, the

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Speaker 2: Torristatee Islander flag. And the fact that you know, even

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Speaker 2: you go back five years ago here that on Australia Day,

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Speaker 2: everybody had a flag on their car. Now nobody does

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Speaker 2: because you're almost embarrassed to hold the flag upcause you think,

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Speaker 2: well they might think I'm a racist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we lost the plot.

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Speaker 2: YEP.

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Speaker 1: I think it does start with the politicians. Actually, Ollie,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much appreciate it, mate, look after yourself. Oliver

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