1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: an earlier show with one roof love where you Live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: News Talks, there'd be good morning. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Tuesday six. After five we'll speak to an 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: energy sector boss on this Allen g terminal before six 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: this morning. Donald to Mayow in Australia for us, the 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: lawyer on the two hundred thousand dollars they found in 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: the ceiling in their home but couldn't keep the money 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: and top of Clay signs a new deal with the Aussies. 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: What's that about? We'll find out the agenda today of 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: tenth of February. More heat on Starmer this morning. This 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: is now the Scottish labor leader who's coming out against him. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: A Nussawa is his name. He's calling on Starma to 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: stand down over mandals to the nepsteam. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: The situation in Downing Street is not good enough. There 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: have been too many mistakes. Cure Starmer is a decent 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: man and it is no secret they have always got 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: on well with them, and he has dedicated his life 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: to public service. I have also dedicated myself to public 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: service and I need to decide what I'm willing to accept. 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: Are what I'm willing to tolerate. 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: And there's a couple of problems with him saying what 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: he's saying. I'll get to those shortly. Also, the PM's 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: in a circle fitting out. You know, yesterday we heard 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: about the chief staff. He's gone. Now the comms director 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: Tim Allen has gone too. And let's go to Japan. 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: Taki Ichi won with a landslide victory in the snap election. 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: We told you that yesterday. The top concern now, of course, 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: is China. 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: If there is an attack on Taiwan by China, that 31 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: would greatly affect Japan, and more likely than not, there 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: might be an intervention by the United States, and as 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: a treaty ally, Japan would be drawn into such a conflict. 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: But these sort of spats between Japan and China the 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: sort of ebb and flow, and it just seems to 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: be a sort of a never ending issue. 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Would America step in though, And that's the real question 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: is and it let's go there. These Settle Seahawks have 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl, but of course no one cares 40 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: about the actual game. They're talking about the halftime performance 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: from Bad Bunny, Trump calling it the worst halftime show 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: ever for I twe. 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: So Chi. 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, look it was a bit weird. I mean, I 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: don't know him as an artist, so I probably didn't 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: understand that Ricky Martin was there. Lady Gargo. You always 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: get behind a bit of Lady Gaga. 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to start your day. It's 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: early edition with Bryan Bridge and one roofe Love where 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: you Live news talks. 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: He'd be like our colleague Michael, who's a straight man 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: that goes to Lady Gaga concerts and Taylor Swift concerts. 53 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Very odd, very strange behavior, but he'd be into a 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: bit of that too, right. It's nine minutes half to five. 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: A little updates for you this morning, early and this 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: is good news to start your Tuesday. Okay, I wanted 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: to start with something happy, not massive news, but it's 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: just a little sign, a little nice piece of information 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: for you. Early stage angel investment. This is for small 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: startup businesses in New Zealand for the first time is 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: seeing positive growth. First time. Sin's twenty twenty one that 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: they have seen positive growth in early stage angel investment. 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: This is good. This is where great things begin. So 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: new deals attracted eight point six percent more capital overall. 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: Now the amount we're talking about, as I warned you, 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: not massive. It's just over thirteen million dollars. But then 67 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: they are small startups, aren't they, So they don't need 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: much and checks might be smaller. But more companies are 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: getting seated, and they reckon that the investors are holding 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: back for the second round hoping that they do well. 71 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: So that is good news for you, bad news because 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: there's always a double ed sword and you kind of 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: know this already. But yesterday B and Z came out 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: with their predictions for what the Reserve Bank is going 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: to do next week when they have their first OCR 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: review of the year, and surprise, surprise, they are saying 77 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: they will probably lift in September, so they'll hold next month, 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: lived in September, But they won't tell you that that's 79 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: what they're going to do because of what happened last 80 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: time where they said, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna lower 81 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: the rate, but then we're probably going to increase it 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: again later and everyone went, well, hang on, that undoes 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: undoes everything that you've just done. So they're not going 84 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: to make that mistake again, predicts B and Z. By 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: the way, the OCR, if you haven't caught up two 86 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: point two five percent at the moment, and the market's 87 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: pricing in a seventy five percent chance of a jump 88 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: by September. That would take us to two and a 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: half percent. Time is eleven after five, Brian, I'm fascinated 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: by the story out of America. You know Annie Guthrie, 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: who's a very famous newsreader, morning news TV presenter in 92 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: America and gets kidnapped in the middle of the night, 93 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: seven now, eight days on. How do they not know 94 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: anything about where she is, where she's gone. There's no cars, 95 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 2: there's no suspects. I'll running through those details shortly eleven 96 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: after five, The. 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: News you need this morning and the in depth analysis 98 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Root Love Where 99 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: you Live News Talks. 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: That'd be just before six News Talks AB it's thirteen 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: minutes after five, just before six, we will talk about 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: this new al terminal that the government announced yesterday. If 103 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: you didn't catch the press conference, there was a lot 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: of this talk is type of talk coming from the 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: Prime Minister. 106 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 6: And as a result, and so it's an and and. 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an and and and result that we're getting 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: apparently out of this LNG terminal in Tantanhago that. 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 7: Will be subject to commercial negotion negation which is underway. 110 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: But you're looking at north of a billion dollars okay, 111 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: four four. 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: And fifty million, and savings a year, sorry, savings in 113 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: terms of net savings, so that is benefits are less. 114 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: Costs in the region are two hundred and seventy five 115 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 4: million dollars. 116 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: Now we're not quite sure about that number. That was 117 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: Simon Watt's Energy minister. We're not quite sure about that 118 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: number because it's all based on advice and advice courses 119 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: often not that reliable. We'll talk to John Carnegie, whose 120 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: energy resources are tore to are after just before six 121 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: o'clock this morning. 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge. 123 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: First, though, the government signed a new standards agreement with Australia. 124 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: It covers areas like AI, data management and cybersecurity. Scott 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: Simpson did this. He's our Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister. 126 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: He says it's going to lower costs for businesses. Brad 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: Olson Informetrics with us this morning. Hey Brad, good morning, 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: what is it? What is this thing? 129 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 5: Well, it's effectively making sure that all of this sort 130 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: of real base level standards. So the various things that 131 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: businesses have to do when they're operating in either New 132 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 5: Zealand or Australia are aligned. So if you're you know, 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 5: someone who's offering services or try and offer services in 134 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 5: both countries, you don't want to have to fill out 135 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 5: two sets of paperwork and sort of conform to two 136 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: different standards to do effectively the same work. We're so 137 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: close with Australia. They are one of our biggest trading partners, 138 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 5: certainly in the services industry, and so effectively this is 139 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 5: meant to allow a lot of businesses who do with 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: trans Tasmin to do that a whole lot more efficiently. Whereas, 141 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: and this is the challenge that we continue to hear 142 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 5: from businesses otherwise sort of start doing all that paperwork. 143 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: They're trying to sort of figure out how they do 144 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: the base stuff. They don't actually have the time to 145 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: do actual work and then make money. So this is 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 5: a good move. It's not something that I don't think 147 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: consumers are going to notice a whole lot. They're not 148 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: going to be looking at ENZ Standard three zero one 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 5: eighty five, but it's going to make a difference to 150 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: businesses not having all that admin to do in the background. 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Which way does more business go trans tasmin wise from 152 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: US to them or them to us. 153 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: Looking at services activity, the Australia is the second largest 154 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: export or area that we export our services too, so 155 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 5: we send services over there now that includes things like 156 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: tourism as well. And it's a little bit tricky on 157 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: the services side to break down other bits and pieces, 158 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 5: but in terms of overall trade they're sort of second 159 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: or third largest after China and the US, so they 160 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 5: are vitally important. And I think the other big reason 161 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 5: that these sort of changes make such a difference is 162 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: because we've obviously seen such a big flow of New 163 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 5: Zealanders who go across to Australia and they sort of 164 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 5: often take their skills at points in the past, maybe 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: not so much at the moment, but they do often 166 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: then come back or you know, have families back in 167 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 5: New Zealand and the like. So there is some real 168 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: importance here and some of the areas that the government 169 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 5: are noting they should make a bit of a difference 170 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: under the hood for a lot of businesses. You know, 171 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 5: you're talking about the likes of electrical installations, you're looking 172 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 5: at civil engineering, you know, parts around building design and construction, 173 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 5: And probably the biggest one is that there's actually twenty 174 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: four standards that previously we had in certain areas that 175 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: we sort of got out of kilter. The Aussies went 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 5: one way, we'd gone another, and so again you're probably 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: having businesses out there that are effectively having to employ 178 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 5: a whole other person just to sort out the paperwork 179 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 5: on this stuff. Now at least they'll be a little 180 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: bit more aligned. And look, talking of businesses, there's a 181 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 5: whole lot of stuff they want to do more, better, faster, stronger, 182 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: But these sort of things they are the I guess 183 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: that the main app below the surface issue that if 184 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: you don't get them right, they're just such an immediate 185 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 5: barrier to a lot of businesses. Oftentimes people go, it's 186 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 5: not worth it to do that work. So this should 187 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 5: free up a lot of capacity across the system as 188 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: we go forward. 189 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: All right, Brad, appreciate that update this morning, Brad Elson Informetrics. 190 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: It is eighteen minutes half five, Ryan Bridge, Ryan bad bunny. 191 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: You must be getting old if you don't know who 192 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: that is, And yeah, I mean I'm not that old, bust. 193 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: It must be getting a bit. But even Mackenzie, he's 194 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: a producer. She doesn't know and she's like just got 195 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: out of school A Kent's she doesn't know who he 196 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: is are it doesn't know much about him. Someone here 197 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: was saying it was most of it was pre filmed, 198 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: but it was a great show. Yeah, I mean into 199 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: each of their own I suppose, And you can I 200 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: guess it's halftime, so you can always just go make 201 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: a cup of tea, can't you. Eighteen minutes after five 202 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: News Talks AB did you hear about that couple that 203 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: found two hundred thousand dollars in cash in the roof 204 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: of their home and first thing they did was ring 205 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: the police. Now they want a bit of the money, 206 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: thank you very much, but they can't have it. We'll 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: speak to a former copp And lawyer. 208 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Next, the first Word on the News of the Day 209 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route Love Where 210 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: You Live, News. 211 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: Talks B News Talk SAIB. It's five twenty one over. 212 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: You might have heard about it this in America, but 213 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: they the American military started giving because they had such 214 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: a problem with soldiers coming home with PTSD. They started 215 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: giving and trialing MDMA treatments. For returning servicemen and women, 216 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: and actually turns out it is quite an effective medication. 217 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: The Australian government is just putting a whole bunch of 218 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: money into doing this. We'll talk to Donnal tomorrow, who's 219 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: our Australia correspondent to back Quarter to six, find out 220 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: exactly what they're doing there, whether we should maybe look 221 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: at doing something similar here if needs be. Bran brich 222 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: shaw I mentioned this earlier fascinating story about any Guthrie 223 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: over in the US. We're now and her mum, Nancy, 224 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: who's eighty four years old, who was kidnapped middle of 225 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: the night from her home and Tucson in Arizona, nice 226 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: little rural looking property just from the photos that you 227 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: can see of it. So we're now entering day eight 228 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: of her being kidnapped, and they have this is the FBI, 229 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: no suspects and no leads. How can you And it 230 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: just baffles the mind. And you know, with all the 231 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: modern technology and all the cameras, they don't even have 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: a vehicle of interest. Now the FBI was seen searching 233 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: any Guthrie's home. That's the daughter the newsreader, the famous 234 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: one from the Today Show over in America, seen searching 235 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: her home she lives about. Her house is about six 236 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: k's from her mum's house. January thirty, first taken in 237 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: the middle of the night. They suspect no vehicles identified. 238 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: Ransom note was sent to the media. It gave some 239 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: dates of pay us this amount by this date, etc. 240 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Second date apparently to pay is coming up to day, 241 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: but they still have no idea where it's come from. 242 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: There was blood nancymer Nancy's blood was found in a 243 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: trail on the front porch, the front door. You know, 244 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: you have your doorbell and it has a ring camera 245 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: in it that was actually removed. That might have given 246 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: them some clothes that was gone. Nancy had a pacemaker, 247 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: And this part is fascinating too because you can't you 248 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: can't actually use a pacemaker, although it's a technological device. 249 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: You can't track a person using a pacemaker, but you 250 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: can tell a few other things about them, including obviously 251 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: their heart activity. And you remember the actor Gene Hackman 252 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: who died and everyone was sort of baffling for a while, 253 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: and they used his pacemaker to figure out that he 254 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: died ten days before they found his body. So they're 255 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: using the pacemaker to try and figure out, you know, 256 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: what was her heart rate like, what was her heart 257 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: activity like, But they can't actually track her using the pacemaker. 258 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: Forgive me, I Savannah Guthrie is her name. I've confused 259 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: her with the sister that's the news reader, but the 260 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: mom is Nancy. Someone's just texting to clarify. I appreciate 261 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: that so baffling that they still have no idea. Well, 262 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: at least they're not telling us that they have any 263 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: clues into where the eighty four year old Nancy is. 264 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes after five, News Talks, aid B, I'll 265 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: run you through the Alleen g terminal decision when we 266 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: come back. You're on news Talk SEB. By the way, 267 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: we won't be talking to the former police officer come 268 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: lawyer about the two hundred thousand dollars found in this selling, 269 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: but we may bring you some more detail on that 270 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: afternoons at five point thirty the. 271 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: Early Edition Full show podcast on Irradio Power by News. 272 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: Talks ATV five twenty six. This government's running into similar problems. 273 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: I reckon is to send us one did on energy. 274 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: They're getting too much advice, official advice, and too many reports. 275 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: The problem when you ask the experts for advice on 276 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: every thought that pops into your head is that they 277 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: tend to agree with it, and if they don't, you 278 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: tend to ignore them. And what does that tell you 279 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: about the need for the advice in the first place. 280 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: The latest case in point is this alng terminal in 281 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: Tartanaki billion bucks. They reckon it's going to cost we'll 282 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: all be paying a levy on our power bills to 283 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: fund it, though they reckon we'll save in the long run. 284 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: Big announcement at the Beehive Theater at yesterday and the 285 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: official advice from MB and the rest was that this 286 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: is the way to go. This will save us all 287 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: on our bridge apparently fifty bucks a year on electricity 288 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: if we're lucky. Because remember, as with all advice, there 289 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: are caveats. The caveats are depends on this, depends on that. 290 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: So we've got an announcement. We hope for the best, 291 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: and this thing will be built. Come hallo high water 292 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: bar a change in government. By twenty twenty seven, when 293 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine, we 294 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: will import along and keep the lights on. That's the theory. 295 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: But last year we had the Frontier Economics report, same issue, 296 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: different set of advisors. They were an independent global consultancy 297 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: crowd looking at the wider market. What they said about 298 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: ALNG was quite different. They told us it would basically 299 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: be a dumb idea to build an import terminal because 300 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: you've got a massive fixed cost that you then spread 301 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: over a relatively small amount of output because you're only 302 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: using this as a backup, and you can't sell an 303 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: ALNG terminal once you've finished with it and you have 304 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: no need for it anymore. These particular advisors made the 305 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: point it's quite a specific piece of kit, isn't It 306 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: could well turn into one of this country's biggest white 307 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: elephant investments. Yet here we are less than a year later, 308 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: with a different set of advice and a different plan. 309 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: There's no doubt the country needs a plan to deal 310 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: with energy security. Everyone knows that. But depending on who 311 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: you ask, this is either brilliant or batshit. Bryan Bridge, 312 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: it is twenty eight minutes after five. I mentioned earlier 313 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: about the Scottish labor leader who's saying Starma needs to 314 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: go because the whole Mandelson issues become a distraction. Well, 315 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: there's two reasons to maybe take what he says with 316 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: the grain of salt. One is that he has himself 317 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: said he used to he was an old mate of Mandelssyn's, 318 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: so I mean, go figure, would he not have appointed 319 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: him to the same job. The other reason is that 320 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: he's got an election coming up in May, and certainly 321 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: the tenor of the question that he was being this 322 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: is Arnus Sawa, the Scottish Labor Leader. The tenor of 323 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: the questions was, are you sure you're not just butt 324 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: covering here in case you lose that election and you 325 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: need someone that you had that you could blame for 326 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: that loss. A starmer getting in the way. So a 327 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: couple of reasons to be a little skeptical and maybe 328 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: not quite the drama that we thought it might be 329 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: with the Scottish Labor Leader this morning, coming up to 330 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: half pass to our Ossie Corry. 331 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 8: Next you're in. 332 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: Get Ahead of the Headlines on early edition with Ryan 333 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof Love. 334 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: Where you live used talks, it'd be pretty far away 335 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: from the six News talks. It'd be on your Tuesday morning. 336 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: Great to have your company. We'll speak to Donald tomorrow 337 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: out of Australia shortly. Also, energy was also zelted or 338 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: on this LNG terminal in Taranaki that we will hope 339 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: to have by twenty twenty seven. Lots of feedback on this, 340 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: Mike says, morning, Ryan, How on earth are we going 341 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: to build this terminal before twenty twenty seven when it's 342 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: taken three years to do a widening of a motorway 343 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: exercise near Drury in Oakland? Good point, But this from 344 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: another text at Ryan, I work for a big gas 345 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: company that has been part of this ALERNG process, and 346 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: so much work has already gone into the project. Yes, 347 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: there is a risk, but isn't it worth it if 348 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: it gives energy security over winter months and leads to 349 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: savings for each household? Yeah? That I mean, that is 350 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: definitely the argument for it. And if you look at 351 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: Labour's solution, labor solution was basically Lake Onslow, which was 352 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: somewhere between eight they weren't quite sure, but somewhere between 353 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: eight and potentially as much as twenty eight billion dollars 354 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: to do Lake Onslow, and the timeframe to build it 355 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: was seven to nine years twenty three to six in 356 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: bread Brech go to our reporters color and to need morning, Colum. 357 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: Morning. 358 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: Right now, this new dialysis unit in south and sounds 359 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: like good news, Yes it is. 360 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 7: It's a new purpose built unit at open yesterday at 361 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 7: Invercargo's Southern Hospital and what it offers is five treatment 362 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 7: spaces for outpatients and eligible in patients along with the 363 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 7: dedicated area for dialysis training and follow up care. The 364 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 7: Health Minister, Simeon Brown says the facility marks a major 365 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 7: step forward for renal care in the South and he 366 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 7: says many southend Is up until now have had to 367 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 7: travel to Dunedin three times a week for dialysis up 368 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 7: until now, so those days are gone. This new unit 369 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 7: increases patient capacity from two chairs to five. It supports 370 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 7: six to eight patients weekly. The numbers are expected to 371 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 7: grow ryan over the next six months. 372 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather. 373 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 7: Both for in Vicargol and Andeede An occasional rain possibly 374 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 7: heavy this afternoon in Cargo twenty one and twenty. 375 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Two today, nice one, cheers Callum and clear and christ 376 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: this morning. 377 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 9: Claire, good morning. 378 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on in the central city. 379 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, we've got a police guard in place outside April 380 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 10: on Fitzgerald Avenue. Police were called to a block of 381 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 10: flats there just south of the Beeley Avenue intersection. Just 382 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 10: after midday yesterday, a man was found at the scene 383 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 10: in a critical condition. Initial reports suggests one person was 384 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 10: taken into custody. There are also reports a rubbish truck 385 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 10: driver was seen doing first aid on a man lying 386 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 10: out the front of the property. Detective Sergeant Caroline Johnson 387 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 10: says police do have increased visibility in the area overnight 388 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 10: and today while a scene examination is continuing. She does 389 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 10: say there's no indication of any ongoing risk to the 390 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 10: wider public. 391 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: All right, and how's your weather. 392 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 10: A bit of cloud about this morning, but clearing to 393 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 10: mainly fine, A bit of passing high cloud northeasterly's turning 394 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 10: northwest late and the high should be twenty seven. 395 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Claire. Morning Max, Good morning. Andrew Little's had 396 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: his meeting with the PM. 397 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 10: What do we know? 398 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, he met with Chris Luxan last night. It seems 399 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 6: Andrew Little did get his wish that the government will 400 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 6: initiate an independent requiry regarding the awful sewage leakun Wastewater 401 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 6: Treatment plant debacle. Remediation work at the plant won't even 402 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 6: start for a few weeks. They're still cleaning the things 403 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 6: they can get in there and look at what went wrong. 404 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: What did go wrong? 405 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 6: Apparently, Yeah, we need an investigation to really dig into 406 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: it because we still have no real idea why this 407 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 6: plant stopped working and tens of millions of liters of 408 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 6: the rural sewage flowed into the sea for several days 409 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 6: in a row. Also important, says Andrew Little, is making 410 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 6: sure the council looks after people on the south coast 411 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 6: odor minimizing measures. Apparently, public health information being distributed regularly. 412 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 6: No update on Polyduo, which you covered yesterday. It does 413 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 6: seem though that the overflow there has stopped. The teams 414 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 6: are still monitoring the site along manor Esplanade. All right, 415 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: how's your weather mostly find strong and northern least twenty 416 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 6: one okay. 417 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: Max, thank you and neighbors and Auckland morning. 418 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 9: Now, good morning. 419 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: You have a South Auckland Business Association who says, surprise, surprise, 420 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: Auckland Transport's got too many regulations. 421 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 11: Well, that's right, and delaying the installation of CCTV cameras. Now, 422 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 11: the witty business association claims, look these at rules. Uh, 423 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 11: this is around encroachment on roads. Which means a process 424 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 11: used to take days now takes months. So Gary Holmes, 425 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 11: he's the general manager, saying that there's a lot of 426 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 11: technical reports that need to be carried out. He says, look, 427 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 11: there's a particular camera which has been delayed for months, 428 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 11: and Homes says they want to target a specific intersection 429 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 11: there in Witty which sees burnouts from boy races. So 430 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 11: a bit frustrating for those guys. Delay delay, delay, Yeah, and. 431 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: What's the delay? Why are they being delayed? That just 432 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: computer says no type things. 433 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 11: I'm not sure about that. I mean we are news 434 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 11: apparently has gone to AT because this is all to 435 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 11: do with. 436 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: AT, and for me, they'll do a statement terribly. 437 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 11: We're still waiting because I said, what's going on there? Well, 438 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 11: we have gone to AT. We're just waiting. Went oh yeah, okay, 439 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 11: don't hold your breath. 440 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: Do AT will Well? Wayne Brown would have blown AT 441 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: up before you get a response from the money. How's 442 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: that weather, Bartley? 443 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 9: Cloudy? 444 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 11: Still muggy? Twenty seven is a high here at Auckland. 445 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: Nice one, never thank you. It is nineteen minutes away 446 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: from six. Now we'll get to Donald Demo out of Australia. 447 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Next International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of 448 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business six stand. 449 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: Away from sixth on Newstalk ZIB, we'll go to Donnadamayo, 450 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: our Australia correspondent. Donna, good morning, good morning to you. 451 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: Tell us about the money that's going to help veterans, 452 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: and this is the transition from military life to civilian 453 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: life and quite an interesting drug that they're looking at here. 454 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 12: They're going to spend seven hundred and thirty nine million dollars. 455 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 12: This is a huge package, a huge announcement and the 456 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 12: Department of Veteran Affairs says that it will fund quite 457 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 12: a number of different ideas and concepts and including funding 458 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 12: of medicinal cannabis but also psychedelic treatments such as MDMA 459 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 12: treatments and combined with intensive psychotherapy. And they want to 460 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 12: help veterans who are suffering with PTSD. So these other offerings, 461 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 12: I suppose it will include yoga and they'll be serf therapy, 462 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 12: they'll be cooking lessons apparently and short courses. I'm not 463 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 12: sure exactly what in but they also may develop other 464 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 12: modern treatments, so very interesting to hear what they might 465 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 12: develop with that. 466 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 8: Quite a hefty sum of money. 467 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 12: Now, this is in response to a Royal Commission into 468 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 12: Defense and Veterans suicide, and the commission found that better 469 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 12: support is desperately needed for service people who are transitioning 470 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 12: out of defense, and the department's chief psychiatrists actually said 471 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 12: that helping veterans find new purpose is what's actually quite 472 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 12: critical for them, and it's very important that these earlier 473 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 12: interventions are implemented and they're desperately needed before their conditions 474 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 12: deteriorate or even become chronic. 475 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: There's a hell of a lot of money, isn't that. 476 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: But as you say, it's one of those issues we've 477 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: spoken about before where it bubbles away and it bubbles away, 478 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: and no one wants to see the suicides that you 479 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: see within military families. So doing something. 480 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 12: About it absolutely absolutely, Yes, I mean to be commended in. 481 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 8: A way of course. 482 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now tell us about that they're trying to help. 483 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: They are. Tell us about this investigation into conditions on 484 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: a luxury cruise liner in Darwin. 485 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 8: I found this fascinating. I hope you do too. 486 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 12: Investigators from the Australian Maritime Safety Authority. 487 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 8: Have boarded a luxury cruise ship. It's called the Carnival Encounter. 488 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 8: It's Doctor Darwin. 489 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 12: And we've heard via the ABC that the Maritime Union 490 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 12: of Australia says there've been reports. 491 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 8: From an anonymous crew member mind you on board. 492 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 12: These allegations are that workers are being forced to live 493 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 12: in overcrowded conditions below deck without safe drinking water. Now 494 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 12: I don't know, it's a bit of a human right 495 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 12: as far as I'm aware. 496 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 8: They are allowed. 497 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 12: To or they get access to safe water by buying it, 498 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 12: but wait for it, they're paid as little as two 499 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 12: dollars fifty. 500 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 8: An hour allegedly. 501 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 12: Now the Maritime Authority has confirmed it's now looking into 502 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 12: these claims related to workers welfare, and we've heard further 503 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 12: from a union spokesperson that over the last six months 504 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 12: there've been hundreds of complaints about this particular international cruise 505 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 12: line and workers have described horrifying conditions. 506 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 8: These allegations include crew. 507 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 12: Members forced to work despite suffering from serious illnesses. Now 508 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 12: the union is claiming the company uses a loophole to 509 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 12: employ foreign workers who are excluded from Australia's employment laws. 510 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 12: So interesting to hear what investigators find after they've boordered 511 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 12: that luxury cruise ship. 512 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: And thank you, Donna. Donald Demara, Australia Correspondent thirteen to six. 513 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: Ryan brig Government's given the all creator build and ling 514 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: import facility. This is to help with energy security in 515 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: the dry years. It will cost north of a billion dollars, 516 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: hopefully set up in tallahak you by next year or 517 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: early twenty twenty eight. John Carnegie is Energy Resources down 518 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: to at chieved executive with me this morning, John, Good morning, Yes, 519 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 2: good morning. Your thoughts on that? 520 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 13: Oh, well, look, we think it's a necessary dry year 521 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 13: insurance policy that's required because New Zealand actually faces a 522 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 13: massive fuel shortage with lower than anticipated domestic gas supply 523 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 13: and the constant risk of dry years. 524 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Is the LNG terminal the right call, though, because that 525 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: Frontier Economics report last year said it could be basically 526 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: a white elephant. You've spent a billion bucks on this thing, 527 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: and then what do you do with it after? 528 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 13: Oh, look, there's obviously a large upfront infrastructure costs of this, 529 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 13: but officials have assured us all that this is going 530 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 13: to be more than offset by the downward pressure on 531 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 13: future wholesale electricity prices and are reduced and will reduce 532 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 13: the risk premium in our years. So what this investment 533 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 13: will affect we do is take the heat out of 534 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 13: the electricity market and lower peak prices compared to those 535 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 13: without the investment. And of course this is great news 536 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 13: for anyone who cares about our major industrials, our energy 537 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 13: intensive industries which will benefit from both moderated future electricity 538 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 13: prices in dry years and the potential availability of freed 539 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 13: up domestic domestic natural gas. 540 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: Will this stop the do you think will stop the 541 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: closures the plant closures? 542 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 13: Well, it will certainly contribute to doing that, you know, 543 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 13: It's certainly not a silver bullet, but it will take 544 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 13: some stress off while we work to bring more domestic 545 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 13: gas online in a medium term. And I think what 546 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 13: we know is that New Zealand's energy system will be 547 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 13: at its most effective when renewable generation and firming fuels 548 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 13: like energy and domestic natural gas actually work in harmony. 549 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 13: And we need to stop having binary good deth This 550 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 13: is bad conversations. All fuel options need to be on 551 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 13: the table. 552 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: John, Why don't your members pay for stuff like this? 553 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: Why do we users have to pay a levy? 554 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I mean, I think the key thing is 555 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 13: that it's the reason the crown has a role here 556 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 13: is an acknowledgment, due to the absence of cross party support, 557 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 13: that this vital investment wouldn't actually proceed without the Crown 558 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 13: taking a position to secure it. So, you know, it's 559 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 13: just a recognition that the market risk of an investor 560 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 13: to come in and invest a billion dollars with the 561 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 13: prospect that, however, many years later, it might become a 562 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 13: white elephant due to government policy settings just predicates the 563 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 13: needs of the ground to be involved. 564 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: But won't it. So you're saying, if because our politicians 565 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: can't agree on stuff, we're having to pay. 566 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 13: For it, well we'd have to pay for for it 567 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 13: anyway in all likelihood with our declining supply of domestic gas. 568 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 13: And what this what the crown's involvement is just to 569 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 13: bring it, to bring it forward, to provide the investor 570 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 13: with the eventual investor, with some comfort. 571 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: Is it not because does the government not have to 572 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: get involved because no private investor would do this because 573 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: it will become a white elephant because our energy security 574 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 2: problem is a medium term not a long term one. 575 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 13: Oh lookly, yeah, there are a lot of earth and 576 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 13: buts in their rhyme. As I said, I think what 577 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 13: we need is system. 578 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: Ji, can I ask you when as it stands, Yes, 579 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: I know that, But as it stands, how far do 580 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: we need to leap to to get you know, to 581 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: bridge this gap? How big is the gap? When will 582 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: we have enough energy security or do we just need 583 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: to keep adding and you know forever in the in 584 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: the day. 585 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 13: Well, I mean, the good news is that we're growing 586 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 13: our renewable base. But the issue was growing more renewables 587 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 13: such as wind and solar and batteries, is that their 588 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 13: growth also by definition exacerbates the problem of being too 589 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 13: weather depend them. So actually, what we do need is 590 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 13: a reliable fuel, and we will always need a reliable 591 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 13: fuel to fill the gaps which domestic and natural guests 592 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 13: previously filled. And you know, eventually we will get other fuels, 593 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 13: We will get biomass and biomethane and all the alternatives, 594 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 13: but at the moment it falls to domestic natural gas 595 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 13: and daring gen. 596 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: John, appreciate your time this morning, John Carnegie Energy Resources 597 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: are our chief executive. It's eight to six news talk, 598 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: said b. 599 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with 600 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and One Route Love where You Live. 601 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: News talk s ed B five to six. Glain Maxwell 602 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: is going to appear before on virtually via video link 603 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: the Houseover Committee today on EPSTEIN, but we won't get 604 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: to see it. They might relex latest and footage. Anyway, 605 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: She's expected to deplete the fifth so they won't say much. 606 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: But this was they were talking about the Clinton's coming 607 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: in for a grilling, so they got her and for 608 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: a grilling about the Clinton's coming in for a grilling. 609 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: And now that Clintons have said they will come in, 610 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: so the whole thing seems to be a waste of time. Anyway, Mike, 611 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: good morning, greetings, How are we very well? 612 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 9: In a couple of questions for you around the LNG. 613 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 9: First of all, how's it taken us so long to 614 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 9: get here? Because you'll remember Simme and Brown when he 615 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 9: was the Energy Minister in the winter of twenty four 616 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 9: said I reckon we should do something about LNGM We 617 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 9: felt fair enough, why not? And so here we are 618 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 9: a year and a half, almost two years later, for 619 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 9: just what really is an announcement and nothing more than 620 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 9: that second second point. Second point is do you honestly 621 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 9: believe they can build a facility by next year. 622 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: Well that's what our texts is saying. This is not 623 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: a hope. 624 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 9: And I mean sure they're being sort of it already 625 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 9: there and they need to put a flag on top. 626 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 9: There is no way we're building something in this country 627 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 9: ambitious within a year. 628 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: But also and remembering them interim, we had the report 629 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: from Frontier Economics last which said the opposite said it 630 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: would be a white elephant, don't build it. 631 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 9: Next problem and it wasn't dealt with in the press 632 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 9: conference yesterday, yet again let down by the media of 633 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 9: this country. First question, you ask, if you're going to 634 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 9: build a facility that you're going to dip into the 635 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 9: LNG market periodically, just what level of availability is there 636 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 9: an LLERG Because one of the things you should know 637 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 9: about Australia, the Eastern Seaboard has a lot of trouble 638 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 9: with allergy getting it out of West Australia because the 639 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 9: West Australians are very keen on selling it to the 640 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 9: world at much higher prices than the Eastern Seaboard's prepared 641 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 9: to pay. So along comes New Zealand in the middle 642 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 9: of some dry winter and goes, hello, we want some Yeah, exactly, 643 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 9: they pay through the notes exactly. I mean, how much 644 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 9: are we paying for that if they work that out? 645 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 9: And of course the answer is they haven't, And how 646 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 9: much is it going to save us a dollar or 647 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 9: a week? That's the hopefully should everyone be paying for 648 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 9: it as post? 649 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: But then we can't just do nothing, can we? That? 650 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 9: Well, that's the point, because I I thought Huntley had 651 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 9: solved the problem, the deal they had done on Huntley 652 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 9: and Cole. 653 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: I was led to believe you've covered it. Apparently lots 654 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: of people that talk to about this this morning. Y good, 655 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: Have a great day everyone. Mike's with you next. 656 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 657 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 658 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.