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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duper Cellen Drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 2: News Talks Heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Police on

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Speaker 3: whether that march across the Auckland Harbor Bridge should go

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Speaker 3: ahead tomorrow morning. Secondary teachers are striking Monday, Wednesday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Wednesday and Thursday next week. I'll get you the details

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Speaker 3: and then we'll talk to the PBTA and former Springbok

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Speaker 3: and Now commentator Hanyaneshamunge on the big game tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cellen, Well.

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Speaker 3: I feel compelled by the boys who are on just

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Speaker 3: ahead of me to have a say on the flying Fox. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you haven't caught up on this, the dealer is

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Speaker 3: there is a flying fox on the carpety coast at

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Speaker 3: Kaitawa Reserve and it is frankly a crappy flying fox

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Speaker 3: by flying fox standards. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like you want a good flying fox, this is a

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Speaker 3: rubbish flying fox. I don't think I've ever seen a

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Speaker 3: flying fox go this slow before. It doesn't even you

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Speaker 3: go down it you get to the end, you don't

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Speaker 3: even get a pendulum swing. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right, because we've all done that.

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Speaker 3: We've been doing the flying foxes since we're about three

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Speaker 3: years old, so we're all experts on the flying Fox.

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Speaker 3: You didn't even get a swing on this one. That's

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Speaker 3: how slow it's going. And yet it's being shut down

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Speaker 3: because it is too fast apparently, which it isn't. So

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Speaker 3: there are three reasons that it's being shut down. Number one,

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Speaker 3: too fast, No, it's not. B because it crosses a

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Speaker 3: shallow creek that looks like it maybe I'm not lying

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Speaker 3: to you, about an inch deep and about a forearm wide,

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Speaker 3: so not a particular hazard, no, a particularly scary hazard.

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Speaker 3: And then the final reason, see, because it's got a

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Speaker 3: fraying cable. Now, fair deal on the fraying cable. That

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Speaker 3: obviously needs to be sorted out, But the councils seem

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Speaker 3: to have used that as an excuse to shut the

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Speaker 3: whole thing down completely and, reading between the lines, replace

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Speaker 3: the flying Fox altogether. Now they will say, and they

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Speaker 3: do say that they have a health and safety obligation,

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Speaker 3: and look, maybe they do. And this is why I

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Speaker 3: hate our current overly conservative health and safety regulations because

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Speaker 3: it's completely taken any kind of common sense of the equation.

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Speaker 3: This flying fox is not too dangerous at all. The

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Speaker 3: one at the park near our house goes about three

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Speaker 3: times as fast, and the three year old's been going

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Speaker 3: on since he was a two year old. Kids need

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Speaker 3: a little bit of risk, right And if you listen

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Speaker 3: to any parenting expert out there, or at least one's

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Speaker 3: worth their soult, you will know there are three problems made,

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Speaker 3: three major problems with the way that we are raising

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Speaker 3: our kids nowadays. Too much screen time, too much gentle

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Speaker 3: little ones, and finally, too much cotton wool. Not enough risk.

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Speaker 3: Kids need risk, especially boys need risk. They need to

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Speaker 3: learn what they should and should not do. They need

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Speaker 3: need to experience the thrills of life to have fun.

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Speaker 3: What kids do, it's what they're supposed to do. Carpety

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Speaker 3: District Council may or may not have a choice here,

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Speaker 3: depending on their health and safety regulations. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: doing the right thing for kids by taking away a

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Speaker 3: comparatively low risk activity and a crappy flying fox that

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Speaker 3: frankly kids can handle together.

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Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two is the text number. Standard text fees

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Speaker 3: apply now the Auckland Harbor Bridge situation. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be closed tomorrow in Auckland, obviously tomorrow morning for a

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Speaker 3: march and support of Palestine. NZTA and the police are

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Speaker 3: shutting down the southbound lanes of the bridge so that

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Speaker 3: is an Auckland City councilor for Howick Warden is with us.

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Speaker 3: Hey Morris, good afternoon, Heather. It's smart idea or not?

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Speaker 4: No, Look, my concern is why does it have to

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Speaker 4: close one of the major transport arterial routes in Auckland.

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Speaker 4: And when you've some of the arguments been while there's

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Speaker 4: not much traffic on a Saturday, that's so wrong in Auckland.

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Speaker 4: You can find parts of Auckland where there are more

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Speaker 4: I'm not against them having a protest. I was a

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Speaker 4: protester against the Vietnam War. I think it's good that

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Speaker 4: you protest, but there are plenty of locations you can

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Speaker 4: the volumes of people, to have your placards up, but

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Speaker 4: and there are going to be a massive number of

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Speaker 4: both motorists and Auckland Transporter put out a big notification

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Speaker 4: It can be well, Victoria Park is a good one,

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Speaker 4: but there's plenty of others and I was very disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that it's on, the fact that it's

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Speaker 3: on the bridge and will cause maximum disruption is the

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Speaker 3: reason that they're doing it right to get maximum publicity,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's not what should be the case. They've got

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Speaker 4: a very big argument about the case they're protesting for.

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Speaker 4: Make their case for it. It'll get the news no

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Speaker 4: matter what. But the idea that you cause disruption to

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Speaker 4: a huge cohort of Auckland is wanting to move about

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Speaker 4: the city on their day and do business. I think

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Speaker 4: it'll actually cost them support. There'll be people who would

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Speaker 4: have been in support of their cause, whatever that may be.

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Speaker 4: I'm not taking a position on the cause. I'm just

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Speaker 4: saying don't do it that does massive disruption. So I

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Speaker 4: actually first of all asked at is this you guys,

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Speaker 4: Agency and said did you make this decision? And I

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Speaker 3: So the police have overridden NZTA.

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Speaker 4: Here, yes, and I made it very clear. I checked

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Speaker 4: that twice and NCTA's response to me was no, we

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Speaker 4: said no to the closing of the bridge, and it

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Speaker 3: Do you think the police have made the wrong decision?

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Speaker 4: Well, yes I do. And again not to do with

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Speaker 4: you're not supporting our cause. It would be any protest

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Speaker 4: I am okay with protesting, and I'm okay with making

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Speaker 4: their business, I object to that, and I most certainly

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Speaker 4: object to closing down the Harbor Bridge just so that

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Speaker 4: you can get your view about a particular issue and

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Speaker 3: Morris, listen, thanks very much for your view. Appreciated. That's

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Speaker 3: Morris Williamson Auckland City Counselor. The police have said that

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Speaker 3: they will be with us after five o'clock. We've got

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Speaker 3: Stefan Cigar. I'm just making that is m factor's name.

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Speaker 3: I'm just double checking that. I was Sega Cigar.

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Speaker 3: I heard him say cigar. Now the German's trying to

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Speaker 3: we will ask them as to whether they've overridden the NZTA. Here,

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Speaker 3: Can I just really quickly say say a happy birthday

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Speaker 3: to somebody who's very important? Aileen Emily carrs New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: oldest living person, has turned one hundred and twelve today.

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Speaker 3: She is celebrating. She's probably actually, to be fair, it's

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Speaker 3: at the Rest Home in Palmiston, AUTH. They made treats

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Speaker 3: so she'll be on round two of the celebrations. She

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Speaker 3: was born in Takumau September twelve, nineteen thirteen. How many

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Speaker 3: And a remarkable well done, Aileen. Four fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine host a weekend sport is with us. Hello Piney,

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Speaker 3: Hello Heather. Right, So what's the conditions for tomorrow night's game?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's beautiful at the moment in Wellington. That'll come

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Speaker 6: as no surprise to anybody from the Wellington region. It's

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Speaker 6: a perfect day. I think it's meant to rain a

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Speaker 6: don't think conditions are going to play a part. It's

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Speaker 5: So that's a good start, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it is nice because the conditions were really

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Speaker 3: part of the game. I would have thought on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: what do you think the All Blacks are work? What

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Speaker 5: Scrums will be one thing.

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Speaker 6: The way that the spring Box pushed them off their

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Speaker 6: for the All Blacks, no Ford pack likes to be

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Speaker 6: one thing that they'd definitely been working on. I think

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Speaker 6: they know they're going to get an aerial assault again.

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Speaker 6: The Springboks are going to kick and kick often, so

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Speaker 6: the likes of Damien McKenzie, Will Jordan and Test debutant

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Speaker 6: Leroy Carter I'm sure will have been doing plenty of

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Speaker 6: plenty of high ball activity. But what I'd like to

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Speaker 6: see Heather is a bit more ambition as well, a

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Speaker 6: bit more I don't know, some back line moves. I

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Speaker 6: know it's a tight game in South Africa make it

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Speaker 6: hard to do that, but I'd like to see some

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Speaker 6: flowing All Blacks back line moves. I might be I

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Speaker 6: might be perhaps being a bit optimistic there, but be

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Speaker 6: nice to think that we could do that tomorrow night

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what are you expecting from the Warriors vi

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Speaker 3: the Panthers?

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Speaker 6: For the Warriors, that's what I'm expecting, a win for

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Speaker 6: the Wars against the Panthers. I know that's not the

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Speaker 6: favored view among most people, but I kind of feel

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Speaker 6: as though I'm gonna sit in the camp that says,

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Speaker 6: on their day, the Warriors can beat anybody, and I'm

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Speaker 3: So he's with Drongo obviously, and so his mates have

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Speaker 9: You about it?

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Speaker 1: Four twenty two hard questions, strong opinion here the dupaicy

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Speaker 10: Do for self whether I.

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Speaker 11: Your friend would reach out for your leg.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you got don't tell the council. Because

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Speaker 3: We've got firsthand, literally got a witness. We rest our case.

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Speaker 3: The Flying Fox needs to stay here the Saturday morning

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Speaker 3: That's about the Harbor Bridge thing. We'll talk about this

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines. It's Heather duplicy Ellen

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Speaker 12: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Always all right, yous just and the organizers of that

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Speaker 3: So because you know, they close Cornwall Park, they shut

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news dogs they'd be drive.

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Speaker 13: But I want to make it crystal clear right now

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Speaker 3: Brazil's former president Bolsonaro is facing the rest of his

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Speaker 1: That's very surprising that that could happen. That's very much

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Speaker 3: And finally, there's a band called Bionic and the Wires,

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Speaker 3: and it's got a member who's a fun guy, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, literally, it's fun guy. Like fungi mushrooms

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Speaker 13: He can.

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Speaker 1: It's being called SPOT or International Correspondence with Ends and

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Curves, the US correspondent with US. Hi, Jonathan Heather,

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Speaker 3: Hello again to you and all the isn't it now

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Speaker 3: that person jumping off the roof? I mean I looked

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, you certainly seem to think that.

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Speaker 15: The longer this.

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Speaker 14: They have fled the scene out the back, scaled down

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Speaker 14: That is why the authorities are pointing out they've had

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Speaker 14: Have you been following this, Yeah, exactly, You've seen a

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Speaker 14: number of them. I mean the latest one that we've

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Speaker 14: seen in the last hour, so is this calls for

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Speaker 14: a secret service agents to be fired after they claimed

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Speaker 14: that the assassination was calmer for Charlie Kirk, somebody who

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Speaker 14: was an advocate of free speech. And it's these sorts

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Speaker 14: of comments that are fueling the right by saying this

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Speaker 14: is the left trying to stir up conflict, trying to,

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Speaker 14: in the words of some right wing commentators, be at war. Now,

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Speaker 14: that is the last thing that this country wants. It

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Speaker 14: is a nation that is already deeply divided, and that

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Speaker 14: golf is only growing by the day. We've seen fights

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Speaker 14: in Idaho after somebody shouted Charlie Kirk profanities. We've seen

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Speaker 14: a bomb threat at the headquarters of the DNC, the

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Speaker 14: Democratic Party in Washington, d C. It is a very

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Speaker 14: anxious time from the President of the United States of America.

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Speaker 14: The words we heard today was not one of unity,

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Speaker 14: was not one of calm, but of warnings to what

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Speaker 14: he called the radical left that he must stop them,

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Speaker 14: essentially in carrying out what he views as causing assassinations

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Speaker 14: like the one we saw yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, now we've had this thing developing where Lord

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Speaker 3: Mandelsson has has obviously left the post, and we've got

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Speaker 3: Trump heading over to the UK and it's the Epstein stone.

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Speaker 3: Is this going to make the whole Trump? Is it

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Speaker 3: really awkward?

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean it could. I mean you've had Lord

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Speaker 14: Mandalston standing side by side with the US President inside

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Speaker 14: the Oval Office when they've been talking about the US

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Speaker 14: UK trade deals. Lord Mandilson resigning over his associations with

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Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein. The Epstein sagary is something Donald Trump has

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Speaker 14: not been able to get away from for weeks and

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Speaker 14: weeks and weeks. Now, the last thing he is going

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Speaker 14: to want to do is to go on a state

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Speaker 14: visit invited by the royal family, stand alongside the King

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Speaker 14: and Camilla and the Prime Minister Sekir Starmer and be

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Speaker 14: asked about the Epstein files. This is the last thing

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Speaker 14: he wants. He wants the invite to be all about history,

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Speaker 14: making the first US president to be given two state visits.

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Speaker 15: Yet you can.

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Speaker 14: Imagine, given the political climate in the United Kingdom and

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Speaker 14: the question still circling over the Epstein files and the

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Speaker 14: lack of them being made public, despite the wishes of

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Speaker 14: some in the Republican Party, that this could very well

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Speaker 14: be a difficult time, a difficult couple of days, if

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Speaker 14: indeed they wind up do taking questions over the course

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Speaker 14: of this today visit.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan, good to talk to you, mate, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again soon. That's Jonathan Kursley, US correspondent,

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Speaker 3: eighteen away from five ever Ellen, Oh, secondary teachers, I

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Speaker 3: need to get you crosses. Okay. So the secondary teachers

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Speaker 3: have rejected the government's payoffer, which means that they are

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Speaker 3: going to implement that strike. We already know the kind

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Speaker 3: of rough outline of the strike because it's been the

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Speaker 3: details have been floating around for about a week or so.

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Speaker 3: But they have now confirmed they're going to do it.

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Speaker 3: So how it's going to play out next week. Is

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Speaker 3: this On Monday they're not teaching years twelve and thirteen's.

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Speaker 3: On Tuesday they're not teaching year elevens. On Wednesday they're

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Speaker 3: not teaching year tens, and on Thursday they're not teaching

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Speaker 3: year nine. Now, I want to know. I have a

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Speaker 3: vague feeling. What I'm interested in here basically is do

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Speaker 3: they have the public support I do have. I have

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Speaker 3: a feeling in my waters about this, but I want

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Speaker 3: to confirm it. So can you let me know on

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Speaker 3: the text whether you support the teachers here or whether

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Speaker 3: this is just going to absolutely get your goat because

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Speaker 3: the kids at home next week? Nine two is the

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Speaker 3: nine two nine two is the text number? Really quickly,

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Speaker 3: I just want to talk about the Marti party now.

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Speaker 3: Something funny is going on in the Mardi party because

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Speaker 3: Madam and a Kapa KINGI who's the whip, got stood

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Speaker 3: down right and she spoken to the Herald about it.

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Speaker 3: She is basically just saying nothing about it. Seems kind

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Speaker 3: of if I can read between the lines, seems of

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Speaker 3: a little surprised. But as well as that takout, Ferris

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Speaker 3: has now basically tripled down on his comments. He's not storry. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: it's at all stuff caught up in the at the

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Speaker 3: airport last night, and he defended both of his previous

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Speaker 3: posts and then actually basically repeated his views.

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Speaker 16: The post isn't an attack or anything like that on

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Speaker 16: multicultural New Zealand. It's an attack on the way that

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Speaker 16: the major parties in this country use multicultural New Zealand

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Speaker 16: to diminish MALDI rights.

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Speaker 3: So then the question was asked, well, if you're not

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Speaker 3: sorry for it, why did your leaders say that you

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Speaker 3: were sorry? And he kind of tried to do the

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Speaker 3: whole Oh, it is, Everything's fine, wasn't. I wasn't entirely convinced.

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Speaker 16: Look, it's been a very busy few weeks. We've all

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Speaker 16: been together maybe twice in the last few weeks, so

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Speaker 16: I mean, you know, nailing that all down or ironing

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Speaker 16: it all out, it's a work in progress obviously, but

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Speaker 16: the debate, you know, the issue is the issue, and

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Speaker 16: the debate is the debate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get Barry's opers take on it when he's

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Speaker 3: with us. Right after this break sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centrics Credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, I need to talk to you about the

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Speaker 3: woman who got stung for the twenty seven second car park.

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Speaker 3: You've got to hear this. It's nuts thirteen away from

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Speaker 3: five Barry Soapers with me High Barry Good afternoon, Heather,

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Speaker 3: Now Barry So. We've had the standoff for the Cooks resolved?

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Speaker 7: No, we haven't. Interestingly, we saw Chris Luxon with Mark Brown.

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Speaker 7: They seem to be getting on quite well, but the

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Speaker 7: standoff remains that it seems that the two leaders have

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Speaker 7: left it for officials to sort out, which I find

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Speaker 7: quite surprising. Mark Brown has simply been unavailable up until now.

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Speaker 7: He had to obviously talk to Chris Luxon at the

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Speaker 7: Pacific Islands Forum. So they did talk, but was it cordial?

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Speaker 7: Looked cordial, I've got to say, but it didn't really

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Speaker 7: resolve anything. And the Cook Islands are still being very

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Speaker 7: shady about the deal that they did with China. Interestingly,

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Speaker 7: the big players like China and the US were banned

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Speaker 7: by Honi Aarra from the Pacific Islands Forum this year,

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Speaker 7: and normally they have observer's status. So they say that

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Speaker 7: they wanted to concentrate on things in the Pacific rather

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Speaker 7: than looking at the wider picture. But I would have thought,

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Speaker 7: now is the very time that you want dialogue with

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Speaker 7: the big players like China and the US. But anyway,

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Speaker 7: they were reminded of China's influence because the Pacific Islands

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Speaker 7: Forum was right next door to the mammoth ten thousand

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Speaker 7: seat National Stadium, built at a cost of one hundred

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Speaker 7: and seven million dollars by the Chinese and Hollyara. Now

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Speaker 7: back in twenty nineteen, Taiwan had originally offered to build

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Speaker 7: that stadium, but they would have to the Solomon Islands

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Speaker 7: would have to pay the money back, so China jumped

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Speaker 7: in and built it for them. So certainly the presence

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Speaker 7: of Beijing was very much to the four in Honi Arah,

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Speaker 7: but without any representation.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, now, you weren't here yesterday when we were discussing

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Speaker 3: Stuart Nash, So what do you reckon? What's your take

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Speaker 3: on whether he has a future at New Zealand.

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Speaker 7: First, I think, look, Winston Peters. Even though Stuart Nash

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Speaker 7: has made a groveling apology for what was a very

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Speaker 7: unfortunate comment he made about what a woman is, I mean,

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Speaker 7: for goodness sake, I understand that his wife's very upset

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Speaker 7: about it. Not surprisingly, Winston Peters. Though it's a bit

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Speaker 7: like water off a duck's back in a way because

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Speaker 7: I watched him with the media and how he handled it.

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Speaker 7: He's not Stuart Nash's keeper, or certainly at the moment

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Speaker 7: he's not. And I think given watching Winston Peters and

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Speaker 7: I know him pretty well, I don't think this is

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Speaker 7: going to stand in the way. It's Stuart Nash getting

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Speaker 7: the nod for New Zealand first at the next election.

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Speaker 3: What's going on in the Maori Party? Something funny is

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Speaker 3: all on here?

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Speaker 7: Well? Absolutely, the Takuta fires stuff is just pauling. And

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Speaker 7: he tripled down as you played some audio from him

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Speaker 7: at the airport last night. I don't know where this

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Speaker 7: man's head is at, and I certainly don't know where

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Speaker 7: his head was at at midnight when he made the

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Speaker 7: the video in a darkened room, which was rather strange.

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Speaker 7: But look Madame and a cappakinghi, you know, her being

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Speaker 7: stood down as the whip and being taken by de Wi.

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Speaker 3: Wrote I just finished a sentence, Oh.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much for because you know exactly what

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Speaker 7: I'm going to say. But but yeah, and she seemed

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Speaker 7: very disappointed that she had lost that whips job. It

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Speaker 7: was worth an extra twenty grand paypack. Thing that surprises

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Speaker 7: me really is where were the Maori Party this week?

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Speaker 7: They put on a fleeting visit to Parliament and apparently

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Speaker 7: they were out on their electorates. Didn't anybody tell them

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Speaker 7: that Parliament was umed after a recess this week.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why you're upset about this. They never

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Speaker 3: turn up.

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Speaker 7: Well, they should turn up being paid by the tax

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Speaker 7: payer to represent Mardy in Parliament. If they're not there,

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Speaker 7: who are they representing?

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a fair really quickly, I've got only

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Speaker 3: about thirty seconds, but I do want your take on

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Speaker 3: the Greens wanting the Mardi Ward referendum delayed.

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Speaker 7: What do you think, Well, I don't know why they

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Speaker 7: wrote to the Electoral Commission because they have nothing to

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Speaker 7: do with the local body elections. That was a woman

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Speaker 7: that should know better, the former mayor of Wellington. But look,

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Speaker 7: there's about four councils that haven't put the profiles of

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Speaker 7: the candidates standing for the Marii Awards on the ballot papers.

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Speaker 7: Now you know that is a big o mission, but

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Speaker 7: forty two councils have to now go to referendum and

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Speaker 7: put it to the people whether they want mari A Wards,

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Speaker 7: that'll still go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant Barry, thanks very much. We'll wrap the political week

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Speaker 3: that was the quarter past six. Barry Soaper, senior political

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Speaker 3: c correspondent, eight away from five, putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the news bakers The mic Asking.

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Speaker 9: Breakfast the National Curriculum refresh. Education Minister Ericus Stanford is

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Speaker 9: with us, why these specific subjects and how do you

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Speaker 9: choose them?

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Speaker 17: Well, the Ministry of Education have given me quite a

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Speaker 17: lot of advice. But there's also some of things that

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Speaker 17: we've been talking about for a very long time, like Civics,

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Speaker 17: but we've never done and there's been many groups have

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Speaker 17: called for a Civics to be taught in our schools

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Speaker 17: and so that was a no brainer.

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Speaker 9: Growing pushback that appears to be building around general changes

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Speaker 9: too in CEA, is this a fight building?

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Speaker 17: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 18: I think actually things that shifting.

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Speaker 17: I was talking to our principle yesterday who said a

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Speaker 17: lot many of the principals who signed that original letter

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Speaker 17: now have changed their minds, which is encouraging.

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Speaker 9: Back Monday from six am, The mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 9: Mayley's Real Estate News.

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Speaker 3: Talk z b Oh, Well, I've got my answer on

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Speaker 3: whether people support the teachers a lot, Heather, No, I

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Speaker 3: don't support the teachers. No, don't support the teachers. Hither

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Speaker 3: I support the teachers. Hither I get to go skiing

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Speaker 3: with my daughter, that's cool. Whither if the teachers want

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Speaker 3: to go on strike, they should do so during the holidays.

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Speaker 3: Lolls here. The teachers lost my support months ago to

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Speaker 3: too greedy and poor results don't justify what they demand.

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Speaker 3: No support for teachers rejecting that offer as a joke.

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Speaker 3: Nurses would have accepted it in a heartbeat, and goes

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Speaker 3: on and on and on like this. Oh, as a

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Speaker 3: parent of children at high school, I fully support teachers.

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Speaker 3: I guess your children are over fourteen years old, because

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Speaker 3: that'll be the difference. Say, It'll be the ones kids

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Speaker 3: under fourteen who can't stay home. The parents are going

656
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Speaker 3: a Lord, I'm going to tear my hair out because

657
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Speaker 3: someone now has to take a day off work. This

658
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Speaker 3: is the thing that I wanted about, because I was

659
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Speaker 3: thinking for a lot of parents right now who just

660
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: trying to, you know, I don't know, get some work

661
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: done in school time and turn up to the office.

662
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Speaker 3: This must be really grinding the gears that people who

663
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Speaker 3: are going on strik are the very people who've got

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Speaker 3: three months and you will leave every single year. Anyway,

665
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Speaker 3: we're going to talk to the PPTA about it shortly

666
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Speaker 3: after five o'clock. I was going to tell you about

667
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Speaker 3: this woman who parked for twenty seven seconds and then

668
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Speaker 3: got a nearly five hundred dollar bill, but I don't

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Speaker 3: have the time, so I'm going to tell you about

670
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Speaker 3: that shortly. But you'll want to hear it because if

671
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: you hate parking companies already, mate, mate, you're gonna hate

672
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Speaker 3: them more after this. Now Wellington is angsting, I'm told,

673
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Speaker 3: like really angsting, really freaking out, rarely freaking out, because

674
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: some people want to mine for gold in the hills

675
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Speaker 3: right next to Zelandier, the sacred place in Wellington, and

676
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Speaker 3: it's you know how Wellington is They like geez, I

677
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: mean the highest proportion of conservationists in one place. Ah,

678
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Speaker 3: I reckon. Anyway, So we're going to talk to this

679
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Speaker 3: evil person who's got a permit to mine gold. It's

680
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Speaker 3: going to be with us shortly. Stand By News TALKSZ'DB.

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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

682
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Speaker 1: dupu Clan drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else Newstalk Vy Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Organizers have called off the Garza protest across Auckland's Harbor

685
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Speaker 3: Bridge tomorrow. They say it's for safety reasons because of

686
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Speaker 3: forecast high winds. A march will still go ahead. It'll

687
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Speaker 3: start at Altar Square and head over to Victoria Park

688
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Speaker 3: in the City Central, a Central City, but organizers say

689
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Speaker 3: they're still committed to making that bridge march happen, just

690
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Speaker 3: on another day. Stephan Cigar is the relieving Wata Matar

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Speaker 3: District commander and with us he Stephan afternoon heaven have

692
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Speaker 3: they made the right call here?

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Speaker 19: Ah, Yes, absolutely and acknowledge the organizers have taken our advice. Afternoon.

694
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Speaker 19: We're expecting some pretty big gust winds tomorrow, seventy commus plus,

695
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Speaker 19: so it's just not a feasible environment for pedestrians on

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Speaker 19: the bridge tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Is it still open to cars?

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Speaker 19: Yes, as far as on were it's still open to

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Speaker 19: cave Okay.

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Speaker 3: Now, is it the case that police that n z

701
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Speaker 3: t A originally said no to this, to opening the

702
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Speaker 3: bridge to the protesters and police overrode that decision.

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Speaker 19: No, that's not quite correct. No permit was issued to

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Speaker 19: the organizers and n ct referred them back to us.

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Speaker 19: But when you have twenty thousand plus and people intent

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Speaker 19: on crossing the bridge, you were left with, you know,

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Speaker 19: balancing out sort of maintaining safety of everyone involved and

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Speaker 19: fatilitating a peaceful protest. So that was sort of the

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Speaker 19: problem we were faced and have been working with those

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Speaker 19: organizers over the last few weeks to plan our response.

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Speaker 3: So let me get this right. So z t A

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Speaker 3: did not issue them a permit.

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Speaker 19: No, that's great correct, Which.

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Speaker 3: Is that nz TA said no.

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Speaker 19: N CTA have referred them back to us.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no per and then they came to you and

717
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Speaker 3: you I said yes.

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Speaker 19: So we're left with that problem of twenty thousand people

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Speaker 19: who are quite intent crossing the bridge what we're seeing

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Speaker 19: internationally in Australia, but significant numbers turned out for that

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Speaker 19: purpose recently, and so we needed to make a plan

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Speaker 19: on how to best facilitate those protesters or sorry, those demonstrators.

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Speaker 3: Isn't what are you saying to me that they would

724
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Speaker 3: have crossed regardless, Like if you guys had said no,

725
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: they would have just gathered and done it.

726
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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 19: Look, our primate role is the safety of everyone involved,

728
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Speaker 19: and that's motorists please stuff. And the people are planning

729
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Speaker 19: to walk, so we would need to put in place

730
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Speaker 19: plans around that. And on this particular occasion, we were

731
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Speaker 19: planning for potential for facilitation across the bridge.

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Speaker 3: Why would you need to shut down the entire like

733
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Speaker 3: the whole southbound lanes Rather the Aukland Marathon just shuts

734
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Speaker 3: a couple, doesn't it.

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Speaker 19: Yes, so obviously the northbound lanes were we're still operating.

736
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Speaker 19: But what we've learnt and the advice from INTOTA is

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Speaker 19: that the clip on lanes there is they termed, aren't

738
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Speaker 19: actually designed for pedestrian traffic and so there's some dangerous

739
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Speaker 19: that and so we needed to use the center span.

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Speaker 3: I see, Okay, Hey, thanks to Stephan, I appreciate it.

741
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Speaker 3: Stefan Sega relieving White to Matar District Commander Heather Do

742
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Speaker 3: for c Ellen. So, yet another round of destructive disruptive

743
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Speaker 3: strikes has been announced, this time from the secondary school teachers.

744
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Speaker 3: They're going to hold rolling strikes from Monday to Thursday

745
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Speaker 3: after rejecting the Education Ministry's new payoffer. Chris Abercrombie is

746
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Speaker 3: the president of the pp T. A Hey, Chris, how

747
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: are you. I'm very well, thank you.

748
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Speaker 7: So what was the.

749
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Speaker 3: Proportion of support for the decision to go ahead and strike.

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Speaker 8: Overwhelming support from our teachers to do this industrial action,

751
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Speaker 8: to reject the offer and engage.

752
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Speaker 20: In industrial election.

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Speaker 3: What is overwhelming?

754
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Speaker 5: We don't release our figures.

755
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Speaker 8: It's just one of our policies, but it was overwhelming

756
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Speaker 8: support for the rejection of the offer and for the

757
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Speaker 8: industrial action.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why are you refusing to agree to the callback days?

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Speaker 3: Why is that a sticking point?

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Speaker 5: Or was this one of many sticking points?

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Speaker 8: There's issues around partial care, around support for curriculum leads,

762
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Speaker 8: et cetera.

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Speaker 5: So it's just one of many areas that still needs

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Speaker 5: some work.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But what's the problem with the callback days?

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Speaker 5: Well, there's two aspects to it.

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Speaker 8: One is the increase, so it's a callback on our terms,

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Speaker 8: and the other is that they're taking away the re

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Speaker 8: embarrassment of expenses related to that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if the expenses came back, would it be okay,

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Speaker 3: would you agree to the callback days?

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Speaker 8: Well, it would be up to our members to decide that,

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Speaker 8: but that is a key part of it is something.

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Speaker 5: That the teachers of visiting schools literally today.

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Speaker 8: Is one of the key things teachers that told me

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Speaker 8: about is they're concerned around the callback days, the removal

777
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Speaker 8: of reimburrassements, but also the lack of government to recognize

778
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Speaker 8: partial care allowances, curriculum leeds.

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Speaker 5: Et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because it was am I getting this right? It

781
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Speaker 3: was ten to eighteen days. Currently ten callback days would

782
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Speaker 3: be moved to eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's that's the current level from the government.

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Speaker 3: And these are Chris days that teachers are already paid

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Speaker 3: to work. The only request is that they are paid

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Speaker 3: to work in the office, not at home those days.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

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Speaker 8: It's anytime the school's closed for instruction, so anytime after

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Speaker 8: four thirty or weekends or holidays.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but they are as in those are days that

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Speaker 3: the teachers are already paid and they would be simply

792
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Speaker 3: required to be at school on days that they are paid.

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Speaker 8: Well, not necessarily the case sometimes yes, but like not

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Speaker 8: paid for satur days, not paid for evenings.

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Speaker 3: Do they ever happen on a Saturday?

796
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Speaker 8: Or they might do that, that's the thing they could

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Speaker 8: do that. So it's and it does say again in

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Speaker 8: evenings as well. So it's not just as clear cut

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Speaker 8: as as you want it to be.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chris, Chris, have a crom VPVTA President thirteen

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Speaker 3: do for cl Good news. If you want to send

802
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Speaker 3: stuff to the US, New Zealand Post has resumed most

803
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: of its parcels sending services. Gifts under one hundred and

804
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: fifty dollars you can now send via the Economy Courier

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Speaker 3: or Express. You don't have to pay any taxes or

806
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: tariffs or anything on that. And if gifts are more,

807
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: if it's not a gift, and if it's worth more

808
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: than one hundred and fifty dollars, it can go via

809
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: New Zealand's a New Zealand Posts Express service and then

810
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Speaker 3: you have to pay the tariff and so on. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: let's talk to Travis next. Travis. Travis has been given

812
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Speaker 3: permission to mine in the hills above Wellington fourteen past five.

813
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Speaker 3: They say in Spain, rain falls mainly on the plains.

814
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: Here in New Zealand, though ranges falls everywhere, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: We have rain on all of the terrain. So with

816
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Speaker 3: all that rain, you'd want a pretty decent spouting system,

817
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Speaker 3: wouldn't you. Well, for over thirty years, Continuous Group have

818
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: been making spouting facia and downpipes right here in New Zealand,

819
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 3: specifically for New Zealand conditions. These guys are the original

820
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: continuous spouting company that brought you the first spouting without

821
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Speaker 3: all those annoying joins, and man was it popular. Thanks

822
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: to Continuous Group, more than three hundred thousand Kiwi homes

823
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Speaker 3: now find rain way less of a pain. If you're

824
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Speaker 3: building a new home or if your existing spouting just

825
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: isn't cutting it, I reckon. What you need to do

826
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Speaker 3: is give the good people at Continuous Group a shout.

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Speaker 3: They are available nationwide. You can find your local continuous

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Speaker 3: spouting specialist at Continuous dot co dot in z. Do

829
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Speaker 3: not let the rain drive you insane. Get yourself the

830
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Speaker 3: original continuous spouting at your home, So contact your local

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Speaker 3: Continuous Group at Continuous dot co dot in z. That's

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Speaker 3: Continuous dot co dot in z.

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Speaker 1: Heather do for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Here the why don't we just give teachers four weeks

835
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Speaker 3: leave like the rest of us, and then this problem

836
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Speaker 3: would disappear. That's a problem solver right there. Thank you, Deborah,

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Speaker 3: seventeen past five. Now there's a bit of angst and

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Speaker 3: Wellington because MB is currently considering a number of applications

839
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Speaker 3: from people who want to explore for gold right next

840
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Speaker 3: to Zelandier. One permit has already been issued and it's

841
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Speaker 3: been issued to Travis MacKaye High. Travis, Hey, mate, I'm

842
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: very well, thank you. So are you going to do

843
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: some mining? Are you?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't call it mining so much, but I would

846
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Speaker 12: if you under some painting.

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Speaker 3: You're going to do some panning?

848
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 20: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Do you think we don't have any interest in doing

850
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Speaker 12: any mining or like digging up the land to pull

851
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 12: out minerals to destroy something that we came here to enjoy.

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Speaker 7: That would be stupid.

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Speaker 3: Your permit is just for panning, is it at the moment?

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Speaker 12: For panning? But we are going for the next level

855
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Speaker 12: of permit, but that's for a different that's for a

856
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 12: different purposes because we have a mining R and D

857
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Speaker 12: company and that company is exploring different ways of non destructive,

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Speaker 12: non toxic ways of recovering minerals. So yeah, very difficulty.

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Speaker 12: It's a stent sort of sluices. So just because you're

860
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Speaker 12: getting all the signs right and anything else and it works out,

861
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 12: you can get the fines out without having to use

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Speaker 12: mercury and things like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, okay, are you Are you convinced that there's

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Speaker 3: gold there?

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Speaker 12: There's gold everywhere, and it's in all the Greek that's

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Speaker 12: where there's allvial gold pretty much everywhere any we're with

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Speaker 12: there's a mineral spring that feeds up through whatever. Then

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Speaker 12: that's that. There's that there gold there, But it's there's

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Speaker 12: no more here than there is anywhere us.

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Speaker 3: Is there enough gold to sort of make a living

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Speaker 3: off or is it just for a bit of a hole?

872
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 21: Oh?

873
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 12: Absolutely absolutely not. This is costom your fortune.

874
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Why are you doing in Travis?

875
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 12: Because I like building stuff and I like to find

876
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 12: a better way of doing it. My son likes it,

877
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 12: and because it's fun. It's singing up my boy.

878
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're just the permits of people in Wellington

879
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: can sett all down. It's just a little bit of

880
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: a bit of panning and digging and nothing massive.

881
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 12: Nothing massive, nothing at all. There's the last thing we

882
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 12: want up here. And last thing one is the whole

883
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 12: few people coming up here thinking that they can do

884
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 12: that up here, because that's not what this place is about.

885
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 12: The space we moved up because it's beautiful, it's an

886
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 12: awesome sposed to live and we have zero interested ashwing

887
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 12: it that anyone that comes up here thinking otherwise, and

888
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 12: I won't swear, but they can go away, okay.

889
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: And even the sluicing stuff that you're going to do

890
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: when you get your next permit, that's not going to

891
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: make the place look ugly.

892
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 7: Is it.

893
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 12: No, it's it's the sue is a dread soluice, so

894
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 12: it would literally be removing as it filled one, so

895
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 12: I can't stuck up any fish or anything like that.

896
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 12: It's it's a it's a soft want to go, it's

897
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 12: gravity feed. It's all done, and it's quite bullying, if

898
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 12: in sess to myself, but it's harmless and it just

899
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 12: takes gravel of a creek and it pushes it down

900
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 12: a little bit further than the cycles back to where

901
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 12: it was. All we do really is take out the

902
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 12: alga and software from the creek, cleans that out and

903
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 12: it's this golden there. It would find it, but we

904
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 12: don't want to do it here anyway. This is frust

905
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 12: and make machines that people can use elsewhere.

906
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Travis, listen, good luck with that. Good luck

907
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: with the angst and Wellington. It's Travis McKay who's the

908
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: director of quicksand Limited here that you should be talking

909
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: about the absolute crap coverage we're giving our black ferns.

910
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: We're in the quarter finals in a Rugby World Cup.

911
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: I'm bloody disappointed, to put it mildly. Please cover them better, Heather, Muzz,

912
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: that actually is if that actually is a fair point

913
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: from you. So we're going to pop that in right now.

914
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: We're going to email the people on the sports Hudle

915
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: who are going to be us short now and we're

916
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: gonna be, like Muzz has said, we're talking about the

917
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: black Ferns. So consider it done and stay tuned. Five

918
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: to twenty one the.

919
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: Day's newspeakers talk to Heather first, Heather Duplice, Ellen Drive

920
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: with One New Zealand and the power of Satellite Mobile.

921
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: You saw said the five twenty three. By the way,

922
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: we're going to a big, big game in Wellington tomorrow.

923
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: We're going to have a chat to han Yani Shimunge,

924
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: who's a former springboker now a commentator who's going to

925
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 3: be with us straight after the half past five News

926
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: five to twenty three Now look, we're the resite. I

927
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: actually think police did do the right thing saying yes

928
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: to that march taking place across the harbor Bridge, which

929
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: will now not take place tomorrow about at a later date.

930
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: My biggest problem with it would be that it would

931
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: set a precedent, but it's actually not setting a precedent

932
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: because the president was probably already set last year by

933
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: the anti Treaty Principle's hikoy, which happened in November. And

934
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: now as a result, we are dealing with the predictable

935
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: problem of letting one protest walk across, which means that

936
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: we have to let every major protest walk across if

937
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: they want to. So here we find ourselves. But I

938
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: do think having said all of that, I do think

939
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: it is the right thing to do, because what it

940
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: is doing is allowing a controlled protest to take place

941
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: that will achieve what the protest organizers want, which is

942
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 3: big publicity to draw attention to what's happening in Gaza. Now,

943
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: a protest across the Harbour Bridge is sure a better

944
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: outcome than protest is finding other ways to get the

945
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: same kind of publicity. I mean, this week in Spain,

946
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: look what's happened. The protest has disrupted the Grand Tour

947
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: so many times that there is now talk that the

948
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: race may be abandoned before the final League is finished

949
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: on Sunday. I would much rather just have a march

950
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: across the harbor Bridge. A lawyer in Auckland has just

951
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: been convicted for vandalizing politicians, electorate officers and red paint,

952
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: including Christopher Luxen's. I would rather that she just put

953
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: down her paint and went for a march across the

954
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: harbor Bridge. In a way, the real precedent actually has

955
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: been set by Sydney where they allowed the protesters protesters

956
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: to cross their harbor Bridge in August. Now, really put

957
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: yourself in the position of the police. How could they

958
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: say no when it had already happened in Sydney? So

959
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: I know whenever this finally does happen, it's not going

960
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: to be popular. Disruptions never are popular. But all things considered,

961
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: with their available options, I think it was the right

962
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: thing to do.

963
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: Hever duplicy Ellen right here we go.

964
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: This is what happened to the woman who parked in

965
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: the car park for twenty seven seconds and then ended

966
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: up with a one hundred and seventy dollar bill. So

967
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: Lauren Phillips pulled into a laundromat car park, so the

968
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: car park is set aside for the laundromat people in

969
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: Rickerton on April twenty three. She pulled in because she

970
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: was planning to just reverse out again and head back

971
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: down the road. So she's just using it for a

972
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: three point turn basically, But then what were U turn

973
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: or whatever? But then basically what happened was she spotted

974
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: that there was another driver who seemed to be leaving

975
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: a spot, so she stopped her car, got out briefly

976
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: to check yep, got back into the car, reversed out.

977
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: The whole thing takes twenty seven seconds, right, she's out

978
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: of the car for fourteen seconds, and then she's back

979
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: in the car thirteen seconds, waiting for another car to

980
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: pull out before she pulls out. A week later, she

981
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: gets a ninety five dollar ticket in the mail from

982
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 3: the company that manages the car park, Parking Service Limited.

983
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: She obviously thought, well, well that's a mistake. I didn't

984
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: actually park, so she appealed it. They said no, So

985
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: then she and her husband exchange a series of emails

986
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: with Parking Services Limited disputing the ticket. Meanwhile, Parking Service

987
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: is Limited is charging them late fees, interest and the

988
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: cost of debt collectors, so eventually it's four hundred and

989
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 3: seventy dollars. So it goes to the Disputes Tribunal and

990
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: a hearing is held. When this happens last week fifth

991
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 3: of September, Parking Services Limited argued that she had parked

992
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: her car. It was a park. She had parked her

993
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: car because she got out of it, so that's technically

994
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 3: parking your car and parking for any length of time,

995
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 3: even if it is twenty seven seconds, is a breach.

996
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 3: The tribunal obviously rules in this woman's favor because Parking

997
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 3: Services Limited has lost their minds and say she's not

998
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: committed to leaving her car in the parking space, so

999
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: she doesn't have to pay anything. But what is bonkers

1000
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: about that is despite the fact that everybody can see

1001
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: how ridiculous this is from Parking Services Limited, they still

1002
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: stand by their position on this. They say it's a

1003
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: shame that Miss Phillips cannot understand and sympathize with our

1004
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: clients and the person that pays and has rights to

1005
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: use the land that they wish it to be available

1006
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: for their business use. Anyway, keep an eye out for

1007
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: parking services limited. My advice would be, if you get

1008
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: a ticket from them and you feel like you should

1009
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: dispute it, dispute it, take it, take it all the way,

1010
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: fight them all the way, just to ruin their days. Anyway,

1011
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: Let's talk sport next.

1012
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

1013
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: it's Heather duplicl and drive with one New Zealand coverage

1014
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: like no one else used talks.

1015
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 12: They'd be.

1016
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 17: To have the ware to have It.

1017
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: Looks like maybe the retailer is a What am I

1018
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: talking about people going into retail starting to spend third

1019
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: month in a row. We've got the card spending going up,

1020
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: so we'll talk to retail New Zealand about that. After

1021
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 3: six o'clock hither I marched across and supported the farmers

1022
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: under the Jacinda regime and they only closed off two

1023
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: southbound lanes. Interesting, so it wasn't the president wasn't even

1024
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: set by the treaty principles March. It was set by

1025
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: maybe even going back to the ground swell thing twenty

1026
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: four away from six sports huddle is going to be

1027
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: with us shortly got the second All Black Spring Box game.

1028
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 3: Tomorrow night's happening in Wellington. All Blacks have made six

1029
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 3: changes to the starting side. South Africa have made seven changes.

1030
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 3: Former Springbok and Supersport commentator Hanyana Shimonge has been following

1031
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: the box. Hanyana Hello, Hello, I Heather. How are you

1032
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: feeling about going in this week? Are you guys ready

1033
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: for a drubbing? No?

1034
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 7: No, none at all.

1035
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 21: Look, it's it's exciting. I think in New Zealand, South Africa.

1036
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 21: I did the commentary last year when the All Blacks

1037
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 21: were in Cape Town. I think that cave that cave

1038
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 21: Ton test. I've never seen a demand for tickets like

1039
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 21: ats for any game, and it's just the respect, the rival,

1040
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 21: the interest in this game and obviously without super Ugly,

1041
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 21: we only see each other twice a year, so this

1042
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 21: is going to be one of those those occasions. You

1043
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 21: guys got us aid E didn't park. The record stands.

1044
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 21: But you're confident for tomorrow?

1045
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: Why why so confident?

1046
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 21: I think you know that the eras last week, we're twelve.

1047
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 21: If you look at the overall statsure side the scoreboard,

1048
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 21: the twelve entries last week into the New Zealand or thirteen.

1049
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 21: We just didn't convert those. You go at fifty percent,

1050
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 21: that's four or five trials, you know in New Zealand,

1051
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 21: and they look at the differential it was a seven

1052
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 21: point difference.

1053
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 20: So there are.

1054
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 21: Mistakes that we made last week in New Zealand were

1055
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 21: very good. But it's stuff that is flexible within a

1056
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 21: week and if we get it, can get our execution

1057
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 21: right will be good.

1058
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: Do you think it was a surprise that the All

1059
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: Blacks won last week? I mean, I get the feeling

1060
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: judging by some of the adverts coming out of South Africa,

1061
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: you guys really believed it was possible to roll the

1062
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: All Blacks of even pac Yeah, if.

1063
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 21: If you look at it, I mean it's it's it's

1064
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 21: you know, you gotta look at it both sides. South

1065
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 21: Africa's won two World Cups, British and Irish Lions who

1066
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 21: got good depth, number one team in the world, and

1067
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 21: New Zealand team that just come off a loss against Argentina,

1068
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 21: almost struggled against the France B team. So if in

1069
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 21: terms of that, you know that the fourth or fifth

1070
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 21: choice come off who played very well, you know, a

1071
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 21: New Zealand team that was probably vulnerable and a South

1072
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 21: African team that you know that's probably was prep for it,

1073
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 21: so that's probably where the confidence came from. But again,

1074
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 21: you know, to be to win that game in New

1075
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 21: Zealand or to win at eden Park, you have to

1076
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 21: be on top of your game and the Springboks probably aren't.

1077
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: What is your take because the winning in at Eden

1078
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: Park has sort of given something of a reprieve to Raiser, However,

1079
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 3: I think it will probably pack up again at the

1080
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: next loss. What does your take on him looking from

1081
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: the outside as a coach.

1082
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 21: Oh, he's an incredible coach. I think if you're a

1083
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 21: Crusader supporter, you know Raiser has done so much in

1084
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 21: terms for the Canterby Crusaders. I think coming into the

1085
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 21: All Blacks, you know everyone thought it was just going

1086
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 21: to be at an automatic step for the results he

1087
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 21: got against Kantby to the Or Blacks where his test

1088
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 21: match rugby is different, you know, it is completely different.

1089
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 21: But he's a phenomenal coach. He's got a proven record.

1090
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 21: You can see what he's trying to do with this

1091
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 21: All Black Team's introduced new bladd who He's doing it slowly.

1092
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 21: You know, he's made one or two changes and you'll

1093
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 21: see hill style coming through and there've been glimpses of it.

1094
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 21: So Raiser is the right guy. Is definitely the right

1095
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 21: guy for the job. But I think New Zealand, like

1096
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 21: South Africa, I've got a demanding, a demanding, a debanding public.

1097
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 21: I think you sort of after the Argentina again, it

1098
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 21: almost felt from a South African point of view that

1099
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 21: the honeymoon period was over the Raiser and people started

1100
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 21: asking the hard questions, what's going on? Why aren't we

1101
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 21: getting the results? It was another sort of sad record

1102
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 21: that was broken by Argentina. All Blacks had never won

1103
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 21: in Argentina. You know, I remember stage when you never

1104
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 21: saw the All Blacks lose again against Argentina. So it

1105
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 21: was probably one of those and there was the reaction

1106
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 21: to it. I think if they had lost in Eden

1107
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 21: Park the thirty year record or what I think fifty

1108
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 21: Test match record gone, then there have been real problems.

1109
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 21: But I think the pressure rule is the international right

1110
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 21: purely because of the legacy, the history of both teams

1111
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 21: and what they've managed to do.

1112
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: Hanyana, it's very good to have you take on it.

1113
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: Thanks Hanya Ne Himange, former Springbok and of course supersport commentator.

1114
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: Coming up twenty away from six.

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00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Friday Sports with New Zealand Soubody's International Realty, Find your

1116
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: one of a kind?

1117
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 11: Another shower sweeps across Eden Park and the old Black

1118
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 11: sweep over the ball.

1119
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 7: They just need to get it out, They just need

1120
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 7: to get.

1121
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 8: It into touch back for Preston Turnerckenzie into the stands

1122
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 8: and the old Black stuffing the Fortress.

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Speaker 7: Twenty four seventeen, You wild on the world cut, get

1124
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 7: back on the top of the world.

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00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 18: So much of a ju to knowling t.

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00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: Bright on the sports title. That's this evening we have

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 3: Jeff mctange's rugby commentator, Nicky Stey, a sports journalist. Hello,

1128
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: you two think okay Jeffy calling the game this week?

1129
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 20: I'm not.

1130
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: No, I've got quite a weekend. So I've got the

1131
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: Black Funds South Africa quarter final on that Saturday nights

1132
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: from Sky.

1133
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: Well that's what you thought going into last week here?

1134
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: How long did is it true that they gave you

1135
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: forty five minute warning?

1136
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: Oh it was a bit more than that, but it

1137
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of a lot of notice. So yeah,

1138
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: certainly the teacher. He was, he was a bit cropped,

1139
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: he had a virus. I think of some description, but.

1140
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: That earlier in the day.

1141
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure you'd have to ask.

1142
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: You know what.

1143
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: I know the answer to that, Jeff. It's because he's

1144
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: a man. He was like, fine, I'll be fine. And

1145
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: then at about six o'clock they were like, obviously not

1146
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: called Jeff. That's what happened though.

1147
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'm not too sure what the bosses were thinking,

1148
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: but I certainly answered the call and was a pleasure

1149
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: to pepe there and do the job.

1150
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, Nikki. Now what do you reckon?

1151
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: Have we got two from two for the All Blacks here?

1152
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 10: Yeah? I thought you were going to start with the

1153
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 10: black fans after that text message you got here.

1154
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: I know no masses and I'm teasing muzz. I'm keeping

1155
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: him because I know Mars is going to keep listening

1156
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: until we talk about the the last thing.

1157
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 10: All right, Well let's let's tease them and good good

1158
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 10: news style. Actually no, I'm going to go against the

1159
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 10: All Blacks. I actually think they potentially might just let

1160
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 10: their guard down this week. I think there was so

1161
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 10: much riding on that game last week. You know that

1162
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 10: the Fortress that the All Black legacy, they had to

1163
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 10: stand up. They did stand up. And I also think

1164
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 10: that South Africa won't make as many errors as they

1165
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 10: made last week. So you know, they showed how strong

1166
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 10: they are up front. Their scrums, you know, pushed us

1167
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 10: back but led to one of their tries. We are

1168
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 10: going to need big game players like the Ardie sav As,

1169
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 10: the Boat and Barratts to step up again, and we

1170
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 10: can't make those eras. It's going to be tight, no

1171
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 10: doubt about that. But yeah, I'm thinking the spring Box

1172
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 10: might sneak on, sneak in on this one.

1173
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is the worry, isn't it, Jeff,

1174
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 3: that that the All Blacks have played their final ready.

1175
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 21: O yess.

1176
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: In some ways you could look at it that way,

1177
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: but I think on the other side of it, you

1178
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: could also argue that the All Blacks the pressure valve

1179
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: and some ways has been released. There was a lot

1180
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: of anticipation and noise and expectation going into that test

1181
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: at Eden Parking and rightly so, and a lot of

1182
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: scrutiny of Scott Robertson and some of the players. But

1183
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: I think, as Nikki said, the said Africans had better

1184
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: of a lot of that game. You know, certainly at

1185
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: scrum time. You know they bossed the All Blacks at

1186
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: times and they were hand there around the park. But

1187
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: I think the fact that the All Blacks managed to

1188
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: get out of Eden Park with the wind and negotiate

1189
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: the spring box the way that they did was very,

1190
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: very impressive. So I think on the other side of

1191
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: it heading to Wellington. Now with that one in the bag,

1192
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: you look at the changes that Russia Erasmus has made.

1193
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: He had two players over the age of well under

1194
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: the age of thirty and that test at even Park

1195
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 2: and now it's the other way around, just two over

1196
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: the age. So's certainly looking at blooding players with a

1197
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: mindset towards twenty seven Wheel Cup. So I think with

1198
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: that in mind and the All Blacks wanting to make

1199
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: it two from two and show that it wasn't a fluke,

1200
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: got I think they'll be too strong.

1201
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: Hey listen, tell me quickly, nicky, what are you going

1202
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: to do in your house? Are you watching the first

1203
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: half of the Warriors the Panthers and then you switch over?

1204
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 20: Do you know what?

1205
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: All week?

1206
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 10: I have said to my friends, what are you doing?

1207
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 20: For the rugby in the league.

1208
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 10: What are you doing for the rugby in the league?

1209
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 10: And all of them are are bloody busy, you know,

1210
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 10: and it's just like this is not on. So anyway,

1211
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 10: my husband is going off to play golf in the

1212
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 10: afternoon's at stripped instructions. He needs to be back here

1213
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 10: by six o'clock so that the pair of us, because

1214
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 10: it'll just be us two, will sit down because we

1215
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 10: are ultimately Warriors fans, you know, long suffering thirty one years,

1216
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 10: and we would love to see them go through. And

1217
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 10: if someone said to me, you've got a choice out

1218
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 10: of one or the two winning, I would take I

1219
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 10: would definitely take the Warriors over the All Blacks. I know,

1220
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 10: I know what.

1221
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: Your mouth is going to make you. So what are

1222
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: you doing? Are you doing one and one for the

1223
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: whole Warriors game and then the second half of the

1224
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: or are you watching the All Black n.

1225
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 10: Look, I'm going to be honest, you know, I'm going

1226
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 10: to We're going to watch that hour and see how

1227
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 10: it plays out closed and it's tight and it's fun. Yeah, absolutely,

1228
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 10: we're into the hall. If we're getting pants by the panther,

1229
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 10: then potentially, yes, we will turn it over. I would say,

1230
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 10: that's how it goes.

1231
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: It's not a bad idea, it's a good plan. I

1232
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: was thinking the same thing.

1233
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 20: Worries go on.

1234
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: If it's an absolute pant thing by the time the

1235
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: All Blecks come to play, then we switch over to

1236
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: the Test match. But otherwise, you know, just maybe just

1237
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: on the phone and just sort of see how things

1238
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: go so that we can multitask. Not very good at that, Yeah,

1239
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 2: double screen.

1240
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: Then all right, guys, we'll take a little break. Come

1241
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: back to you short and got to talk to netball obviously,

1242
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,560
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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the sports huddle, Nikki starrus Jeff mctage. Now, Nikki,

1246
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: what do you make of the situation with Dame Knowles.

1247
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 10: Well, it's a tricky one to comment on because we

1248
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 10: don't have all the details. But from what I'm hearing,

1249
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 10: I think there definitely is a communication breakdown, and I

1250
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 10: don't know the problem is that do they need a

1251
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 10: reality to check these young players. I'm pretty old school,

1252
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 10: so my view is pretty much the same as Laura

1253
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 10: Langman and a few You know, the even wantings of

1254
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 10: this world elite sport is just that it's elite. To

1255
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 10: get there, to stay there, you need to be tough,

1256
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 10: you need to be thick skinned, you need to be

1257
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 10: resilient and you don't need to crumble at the first

1258
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 10: signs of the personal affront. And I think that that's

1259
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 10: what we're seeing now. You could argue there has definitely

1260
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 10: been sort of a cultural shift, and I guess the

1261
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 10: way you can see this, Heather, is if you look

1262
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 10: at all the player coach conflicts that have occurred recently.

1263
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 10: They have been in New Zealand women's team, cycling, hockey, swimming.

1264
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 10: Because we're emotional creatures and we and we respond to

1265
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 10: leadership differently to men. You've only got to ask an

1266
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 10: ex player male who goes into coaching a female top

1267
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 10: level team, and they will tell you or they're quite different.

1268
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 10: You know, they don't respond in the same way, and

1269
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 10: you can't upset them. You've got to set them aside

1270
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 10: and you've got to have a nice little chat. So

1271
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 10: you know, there needs to I guess the solution is

1272
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 10: quite You've just got to have more training, more conflict

1273
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 10: management education for coaches, more training and communications. Yeah, that's

1274
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 10: my take on it.

1275
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 3: Now, Jeff, I know you're not going to want to

1276
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: say because you're a bloke, you're not going to be

1277
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: you don't want to get involved in this lady chat.

1278
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: I know that, but can you at least give me

1279
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: your take them whether it's a generational problem here, you know, like,

1280
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 3: are these players just just that they're off the generation

1281
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 3: that doesn't like a tough.

1282
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 2: Go Well, I think firstly you have to look at

1283
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: Dame Nolean's track record and the fact is twenty eighteen,

1284
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: the Silver Ferns don't meddle at the Commonwealth Games. Ten

1285
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: months later they want a World Cup, you know, so

1286
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: she has the goods as a coach. Now, Catherine Tvat

1287
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: has made a good point. You know, maybe the landscape

1288
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: has changed in the last five years. I'm sure it has,

1289
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: but you know that is that to sacrifice success? You know,

1290
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: if you're not born New Zealand. I think, as as

1291
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: Nicky says, it's like, you know, you have to start

1292
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: asking those questions. Is it having a good coach that's

1293
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: going to get you these results, that has a proven

1294
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: track record or has the power swung too much the

1295
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: way of the players, And that's a question the neat

1296
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: for New Zealand needs to be asking themselves, you know,

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Speaker 2: who do we go with here? Because you know a

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Speaker 2: little bit of hard work is going to get you

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Speaker 2: somewhere if you work hard and at the first, as

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Speaker 2: you say, Nikki, at the first sign of something getting

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Speaker 2: getting a little bit tough, and again without knowing the

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Speaker 2: ins and outs and the and the and the end

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Speaker 2: of details of what's happened here, I think that is

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Speaker 2: the question. There's no no question. I think it's just

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Speaker 2: incredibly sad because she's a wonderful coach, a wonderful person,

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: and Laura Langman's message on social media was just so

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Speaker 2: moving because look what she did with those players that team.

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Speaker 2: You know, they had to work hard, they didn't always

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Speaker 2: like her training methods, but it led to a World

1310
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Speaker 2: Cup and ultimately, as a professional sports person, you want

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Speaker 2: to succeed at the highest level and you can't be

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Speaker 2: that Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Very fair point. Okay, let's do it for us now.

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Speaker 3: Mars has got a fair point, hasn't he, Niki? That

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Speaker 3: we are How have we allowed them to get into

1316
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 3: the quarterfinals and we're hardly even talking about it.

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Speaker 10: Oh look hither it's Look, it's a really simple answer.

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Speaker 10: Haven't been covered much because AID has been very little urgency.

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 10: First of all, the time zone is dreadful. It's in

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Speaker 10: the middle of the night. Secondly, it's sorry about that, Jeff. Secondly,

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01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 10: at this stage, you know through the group stages are

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Speaker 10: a weak part, so it loses that urgency and the

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01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 10: results have been so one side is that, you know,

1324
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 10: it's like, you know, sax Foons do it again. So look,

1325
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Speaker 10: the difference is that now, as Jeff will tell you,

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Speaker 10: we are now down at the business end. So you know,

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Speaker 10: New Zealand place South Africa. You know South Africa made

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Speaker 10: a quarter finals. It won't be necessarily the one sided

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Speaker 10: result that we've seen today. So the urgency will increase,

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Speaker 10: and I do hope that we get more coverage, more talk,

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Speaker 10: more chat around it. To me, England will be England

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Speaker 10: New Zealand. We're going to see that. That's going to

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Speaker 10: be the final. And yet there'll be plenty of attention

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Speaker 10: around that.

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Speaker 8: Je.

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Speaker 3: If I don't have long beginning, you'll take on it.

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Speaker 2: What do you think I think the black funds one

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Speaker 2: come to me and so ever. But I think in Nick,

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Speaker 2: you say this is right, it's the factor that's going

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Speaker 2: to come under the semi five and final for them.

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Speaker 2: They've cruised through. Paul played notice respect to South Africa.

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Speaker 2: They had a good one over at Italy, but a

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Speaker 2: second game we've played them in twenty ten we were

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Speaker 2: heavy favorites on that occasion rightly so, so I think

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01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: they cruised through. But this whole tournament has been so good,

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Speaker 2: not just for the women's game, but the game of

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Speaker 2: rugby in general. And I think we can learn a

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Speaker 2: lot from the way that Black Ferns have promoted the game,

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Speaker 2: the way they do things on social media. I think

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Speaker 2: that the men's side of it can learn from that too.

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Speaker 2: But ultimately, thirty thousand tickets I think the last time

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Speaker 2: in the World Cup was in England. This time pre

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01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: sold three hundred thousand, and globally the audience has been massive,

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Speaker 2: So it's a good thing for the game.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, brilliant, You guys, enjoy your weekend of sport.

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Speaker 3: Jeff mctangs, Nikki Styris Sports Huddle.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drave Full Show podcast

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: on my Hard Radio powered by News Talk zb either.

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Speaker 3: The question you didn't ask is can Dame Knowles come

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Speaker 3: back from this in my view? Not a chance Ken

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Speaker 3: my view as well, And actually that was something we

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Speaker 3: did discuss earlier this week. Now listen, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you're aware of this. Gregle Paul has written a

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: wonderful piece in The Herald about a couple of the players,

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Speaker 3: the debutantes in the All Blacks, and where they come from.

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of surprising two of them. So when

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Speaker 3: I say two of them, I mean Kyle Preston and

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Speaker 3: Leroy Carter are both tradees. So Kyle Preston is a

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Speaker 3: roofer and he only finished his apprenticeship in March last year,

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Speaker 3: and this time last year he was still making his

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Speaker 3: living as a roofer. He would be, says Gregor Paul,

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Speaker 3: the first All Black in many years not to have

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Speaker 3: trodden the manicured and sanitized path to the international arena,

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Speaker 3: the one that starts by making age grade representative sides

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Speaker 3: at school and graduating to a provincial or super Rugby

1376
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 3: academy and effectively living in a high performance bubble from

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Speaker 3: the age of eighteen. Leroy Carter, former electrician, while his

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 3: elite peers were living in their coosets at high performance

1379
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: wells and buoyed by knowing that, on statistical probabilities, they

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Speaker 3: were designed to make the big time. Carter was clocking

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Speaker 3: in for a hard day's grind, and he was fitting

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Speaker 3: and training around his work while carrying the mental burden

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Speaker 3: of knowing that he was statistically unlikely to make the

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Speaker 3: big time. And as Greegle Paul points out, isn't it

1385
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: nice to have a couple of cases of people who

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 3: don't come through the age grade stuff but actually just

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Speaker 3: work bloody hard and make it in the side. It's

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Speaker 3: still possible in this day and age. Wonderful. I'm so

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Speaker 3: these are my two new favorite players, just based on

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Speaker 3: that anyway. And we're going to talk to retail New

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Speaker 3: Zealand about what they're seeing in the spending and whether

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Speaker 3: it's a good sign. News talks.

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Speaker 7: He'd be.

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Speaker 1: Post a Mazon, what's fun? What's down one with the

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Speaker 1: major cause and how will it affect the economy? The

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Speaker 1: big business questions on the Business Hour with Heather duplessy

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01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: Ellen and mas for insurance investments and uya, you're in

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Speaker 1: good hands. News talks.

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Speaker 19: He'd be.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up to the next hour. Peter Lewis

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 3: will explain why Japan is letting the US decide where

1402
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: Japan invests its money. Barrysopah will wrap the political week

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Speaker 3: that was, and we'll go to Gavin Gray in the UK.

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Speaker 3: It's now seven pass six. Now retailers reckon they're finally

1405
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: seeing some green shoots, at least the hope. So card

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01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: spending data shows that we've been spending more money for

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01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 3: the third month in a row. Spending in the retail

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Speaker 3: industries was up zero point seven percent in August compared

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Speaker 3: to July. And Carolyn Young is the chief executive at

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Speaker 3: Retail New Zealand. Hey, Carolyn, sure, how are we doing

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01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 3: very well? Thank you? Now spending more? Absolutely, But is

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Speaker 3: it possible we're actually buying the same things and they're

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01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: just costing more.

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Speaker 20: Well, there's obviously an inflationary factor, and we know that

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Speaker 20: groceries have been up and the electricity has been up,

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01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 20: so there is a little bit of that. We know

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01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 20: that the average sale price has been the same, So

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01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 20: what that means that is that there's been more transactions

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01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 20: that have occurred. So does give us the sense that

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01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 20: maybe some of those people that have been there had

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Speaker 20: the opportunity to refix their mortgages, have got a little

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01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 20: bit more cash and have been able to go and

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01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 20: buy some things, but it's still quite tight. Obviously, there's

1424
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Speaker 20: been a lot of news this week about how difficult

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01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 20: the reporting season has been for retailers and some retailers

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Speaker 20: closing doors and liquidation still. But maybe we're turning that corner,

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 20: and of course there are less retailers there, so those

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01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 20: retailers are hopefully getting more consumers cut on customers coming

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Speaker 20: through their doors.

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Speaker 3: Explain to me what's going on here. We've got hospitality

1431
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Speaker 3: up one point four percent, apparel up one point eight percent,

1432
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: but then the spend on fuel is down.

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01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 20: Yeah, the fuel and vehicles is really lumpy, and we

1434
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 20: know that fuel has been really competitively priced in August.

1435
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 20: I think you'll know that various places around Auckland and

1436
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Speaker 20: around the country has had huge discounts at different times

1437
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 20: and has been queues outside some mobile stores and some

1438
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 20: by tomos and stuff as they had their regular discounts

1439
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 20: on and so that you know, that can drive some

1440
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 20: sales in those perspectives, but fuel can be a little

1441
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 20: bit lumpy alongside vehicles.

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Speaker 3: Now, what do you make of the fact that we've

1443
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 3: had a bunch quite prominent retailers go into liquidation or

1444
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 3: go under recently.

1445
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 20: So it's a reflection of how difficult it's been and

1446
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 20: how long they've held on for but just couldn't quite

1447
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 20: get over the line. What we don't know with any

1448
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 20: of these businesses is you know what loans they might

1449
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 20: have had, You know what their depth levels were, how

1450
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 20: their cash flow was looking, which obviously wasn't great. But

1451
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 20: you know, some of those things. If you're on old leases,

1452
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 20: if your insurance has gone skyrocketing, if you're locked into

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01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 20: some six costs that you just can't move from. In

1454
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 20: this environment where you need to be agile and you

1455
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 20: need to be able to adapt and adjust to change

1456
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 20: moods and spending habits, then you know it's making it

1457
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Speaker 20: really difficult.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Carolyn, best of luck with everything, and thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for your time. It's Carolyn Young, Retail New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Chief Executive. Ten paus six, Heather Duplicy Allen Heather

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Speaker 3: the Great Aaron Smith was a headdresser and fielding for

1462
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Speaker 3: three years. The best example of not being identified, that's

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Speaker 3: from Hamish. Thank you Hamish.

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Speaker 7: Is it true?

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Speaker 3: Actually Hamish. Is it true that Aaron was cutting their

1466
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Speaker 3: hair until recently, because if he was, it might suggest

1467
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: he was a better rugby player than hairdresser. I'd love

1468
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 3: to know. Can I just say this, I'd loved to

1469
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: what the hell is going on with the rugby league players?

1470
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: Have you noticed the thing that they're all doing at

1471
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Speaker 3: the moment. They're shaving off their side burns. Do you

1472
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: know the side burnie bit above the ear? You know,

1473
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: they sort of just like it's like they draw a

1474
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: line from I guess like they're up a temple down

1475
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: to just above their ear and they go shave it off.

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: Tack it off. Is very remember when they did that

1477
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 3: in the eighties. It was hideous then and it's hideous now.

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01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 3: And I was watching the Warriors. My mum's not a

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01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 3: Warrior's watcher, she's not a rugby league woman. I'm trying

1480
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 3: and I was watching it with her the other day

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01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: and she's like, yes, the air is very ugly, all

1482
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: the hair, and I was like, this is a good point.

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 3: I looked at them and I thought, there is not

1484
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 3: a man in this team who's got a decent haircut.

1485
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of tolerance for Dellen's hair, because look,

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 3: I mean, the man has been blessed with some wonderful locks.

1487
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 3: But even then, I think I would go for a

1488
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 3: different long look, do you know what I mean? Rather

1489
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 3: than the like it's the best. It's definitely the best

1490
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 3: because of what God has blessed him with. But wow,

1491
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 3: you could you could it could be better, couldn't it.

1492
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 3: There's something that's happening in Rugby League where it just

1493
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 3: feels like like a like a fashion has washed over

1494
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: that place and it's a hideous fashion and I can't

1495
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: wait for it to end.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: If there's some explanation as to what the hell's going

1498
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 3: on there, I'd love to know. Don't tell me who

1499
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Speaker 3: the barber is. Well, actually, do tell me who the

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Speaker 3: barber is, because I will make sure to avoid that

1501
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 3: place for everybody in my family. I'm responsible for a

1502
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 3: number of haircuts amongst the men there. Now, Harry's turned

1503
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 3: up in Ukraine. That was unexpected, but as I've told

1504
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: you before, it always is unexpected when somebody of profile

1505
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 3: turns up in Ukraine. But he's turned up in Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: and he's done it in his capacity as the you know,

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Speaker 3: founder and whatever role he plays still with the Invictors

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Speaker 3: Games Foundation. He says he wants to do everything possible

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Speaker 3: to help the recovery of the veterans. You know, the

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Speaker 3: personnel who've been seriously injured, and there are thousands of

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Speaker 3: them who have been in in Ukraine. And how he

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Speaker 3: got there was he flew into Poland and then caught

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Speaker 3: a train to Kiev. The fact that you know that

1514
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Speaker 3: he was there means he's already out. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray about that when he's with us later on

1516
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Speaker 3: in the show. Thirteen past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplicy Allan Drive full show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1518
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:22,280
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1519
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: playing economics, it's all on the Business Hour with Heather

1520
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: Duplicy Allen and to Mass for Insurance Investments and Kilie Safer.

1521
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: You're in good hands NEWSTALKSB.

1522
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 3: Hither it's called a low taper and it is in

1523
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: capitals the rage. Thank you, Mark, sixteen past six. Now

1524
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Speaker 3: let's wrap the political week that was with Barry Soper,

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent. Welcome back, Barry, Hello again, Heather, Barry.

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Speaker 3: Really everything has been dominated by Tom Phillips this week,

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Speaker 3: isn't it?

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's been. It's a tragic, awful story, but you

1529
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 7: know it's one that people are interested up and down

1530
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 7: the country in. I mean, how on earth anyone can

1531
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 7: defy the police for four years in the bush with

1532
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 7: three children is beyond most imaginations. And I think the

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Speaker 7: good thing about this, Heather, is that by week's end,

1534
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Speaker 7: Tom Phillips is not seen as the Great Robin Hood

1535
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 7: if you liked that he was by some earlier in

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Speaker 7: the week. The fact that he shot a police officer

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 7: who's going to be in hospital, I would imagine for

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 7: some considerable time says one thing about him. But to

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Speaker 7: do so in front of his twelve year old daughter

1540
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 7: is another thing. And you know there are suppression orders

1541
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 7: around all of this and the things that we can't

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 7: talk about. But this man, I think has been described

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01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 7: by the Minister of Police Mark Mitchell as a monster,

1544
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 7: and I think that's an apt description.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you might be right. Listen. I've been

1546
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: thinking a lot since we last talked about the Maori Party,

1547
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 3: and I think what's happened in the last week, which

1548
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 3: I think is quite notable, is the fact that the

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Speaker 3: relationship between the Maori Party and the Press Gallery seems

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01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: to have soured quite BADLYO.

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Speaker 7: Well, yes, normally they were certainly going to and from

1552
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 7: the debating chamber very available, but look they have been

1553
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 7: avoiding the place this week. And you know they didn't

1554
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 7: double down on their apology for Takuta Ferris, which is

1555
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 7: indeed what the leadership should have done. But not only that,

1556
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 7: they displaced one of their whips and she lost to

1557
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 7: twenty thousand dollars as a result of it a paypacket

1558
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Speaker 7: and it's been taken over by Debbie no rewa packer,

1559
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 7: which is surprising. I mean, normally you don't have a

1560
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 7: leader that is also a whip of a party. But look,

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 7: this party, to me is a basically a party of protesters,

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01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 7: and I think Takuta Ferris has shown really what this

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01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 7: party has been about ever since it was elected into

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Speaker 7: the House. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree with me though, that the souring of

1566
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 3: the relationship with the press gallery really doesn't affect the

1567
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: Marori Party negatively because they never really reach their audience

1568
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 3: through the mainstream media. I mean largely they get to

1569
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 3: the audience through social media and that will continue unfettered.

1570
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 3: Who this hurts the most is Labor because now that

1571
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 3: the press gallery is going to start interrogating the positions

1572
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: of the Marty Party and find them wanting it's just

1573
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: going to the people. It will pot off as Labour's

1574
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: voters who know Labor requires the Mary Party to govern.

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Speaker 7: Oh. Absolutely, It's going to be very difficult for Chris

1576
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 7: Hopkins to say that if they do go into coalition,

1577
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 7: there are only two options for them. One is the

1578
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 7: Maldi Party, the other is the Greens. And you know

1579
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 7: there's plenty of criticism floating around about the Greens, but

1580
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 7: the Mardi Party, they've shown themselves at times not fit

1581
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 7: to be in the place.

1582
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 3: Now Stuart Nash, you say, you say he's got a

1583
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 3: future in New Zealand.

1584
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Speaker 7: First, oh yes, look, you know it was a very

1585
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 7: injudicious comment that he made about what is a woman?

1586
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,480
Speaker 7: And it's something of an irony had that. Winston Peters

1587
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 7: on Newstalalk Z had been neck Mills and Wellington just

1588
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 7: a few hours earlier, had been talking about the Labor

1589
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 7: Party leader not knowing what a woman is and we

1590
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 7: have Stuart Nash coming out giving what a pairy rude

1591
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 7: description of what a woman. What he sees a woman

1592
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 7: as being not good for his wife. She's not happy apparently,

1593
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 7: Winston Peters, it's a bit like water off the duck's back.

1594
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 7: I mean, he's got Shane Jones and his party and

1595
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 7: he's been fairly injudicious at times himself. So look, I

1596
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 7: think Winston will turn a blind eye to it, and

1597
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 7: Stuart Nash he will be fairly valuable to the New

1598
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 7: Zealand First Party because you know, the blue collar vote

1599
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 7: is what they want. They've got the elderly vote generally,

1600
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 7: so you know, I think he will be in addition

1601
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 7: to that party.

1602
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 3: Very very quickly. That opinion poll and many opinion polls

1603
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 3: at the moment that are coming out are giving it

1604
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: to the left. At the moment, I tend to feel

1605
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 3: that this is a protest vote against the government. It's

1606
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 3: not an indication that the Left is doing anything great

1607
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: because they haven't even got policies out really from labor.

1608
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 7: The thing is hither that, you know, I think people expected,

1609
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 7: and indeed they were led to believe by the National

1610
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 7: Party or the National Coalition that things would be right

1611
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 7: by this time. But they're far from being right. I

1612
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 7: think though there are certainly they call it green shoots.

1613
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 7: The economists do, and I think they are starting to show,

1614
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 7: and I think by certainly early next year you'll see

1615
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 7: a very different mood in the country. Is pretty dismal

1616
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 7: at the moment, and when the mood is dismal, it's

1617
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 7: not good for the government. But as long as the

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01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 7: all blacks keep one, I think they'll be quite happy.

1619
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 3: All right, very so, well, then we'll see what we

1620
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 3: feel like. On Sunday, Barry Sooper, senior political correspondent, rapping

1621
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 3: the political week that was, Hey, do you remember Jane

1622
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 3: Hurdlicka who ran a two milk? She was running a

1623
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: two milk for a week while there and then stood

1624
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,520
Speaker 3: down just before COVID and headed back over to Australia.

1625
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 3: Just been revealed how much and as she went over

1626
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 3: to Virgin Australia by the way, and has just been

1627
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: revealed how much she was paid on her departure from

1628
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 3: Virgin Australia cash and shares worth more than fifty million dollars.

1629
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 3: How good is that It's come out in the group's

1630
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: annual report that was released today cash payments of more

1631
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 3: than twenty million dollars shares currently worth about thirty three

1632
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 3: million dollars. I am not an expert, but I would

1633
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: say sell up, lady, take it. That seems like it's

1634
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 3: a high to me. She's going over to Endeavor. Are

1635
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 3: going to be the CEO there. They're the liquor and

1636
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 3: the pubs and the Poke's Giant six twenty two, everything.

1637
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: From SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour with

1638
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: Hither Duplicla and Masters for insurance investments and the Kiwi Savor.

1639
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,919
Speaker 12: You're in good hands news.

1640
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: Togs'd be six twenty four. By the way, have to

1641
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 3: mention this. I don't know if you've seen this, but

1642
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: fantastic idea has objectively a fantastic idea has come from

1643
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,440
Speaker 3: the golf warehouse as to what to do with Takapuna

1644
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: golf course. Because if you've been following this has been

1645
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 3: such a kerfuffle over on the north shore of Auckland

1646
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: about what to do here. There's an eighteen hole course

1647
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 3: there and the council wants to shut it down and

1648
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 3: turn nine holes, save nine holes, then save the wetland,

1649
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 3: and that's designed to kind of stop flooding events and

1650
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Anyway, these guys have come in. They

1651
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: say they're prepared to do this, put twenty million bucks

1652
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 3: in it and redevelop it. Keep nine holes that would

1653
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 3: be a world class nine hole golf course with native planting.

1654
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: Then have a nine hole par three community short course

1655
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: flood lit to allow evening play. Have a larger new

1656
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: stadium built on a raised platform. Have a driving range

1657
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 3: with one hundred bays two hundred and fifty meters, a

1658
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 3: thirty six hole flood lit mini golf course, and a

1659
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 3: large practice putting green. Multipurpose community clubhouse with hospitality and retail,

1660
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 3: a base for golf. New Zealand's Auckland entry level participation

1661
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 3: and talent development programs, extra car parking, a twelve court

1662
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 3: indoor pickleball facility, a pump track for bikes, scooters and skateboards.

1663
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 3: A shared path for walking and cycling running the length

1664
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 3: of the park from north to south. Would you say

1665
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 3: no to that? I mean, Auckland Council has said no

1666
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 3: to some pretty great ideas, so don't put it beyond them.

1667
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 3: But that sounds pretty great, doesn't it. Six twenty six,

1668
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 3: Now here's some showbiz news for you. You know what

1669
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: that is. That's down to Nabbey isn't it a secret marriage?

1670
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 3: Sounds like a plot line right out of a soap

1671
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: like down Tonabbey, but it actually has happened in real

1672
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 3: life as well. It turns out two of the cast

1673
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 3: members have tied the knot in private. Laura Carmichael, who

1674
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 3: plays Lady Edith, and Michael C. Fox, who plays Andrew Parker,

1675
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 3: met on the set of the show in twenty eleven,

1676
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 3: and they got together in twenty fourteen, and then they

1677
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: welcomed their first child in twenty twenty one, but they

1678
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 3: only revealed their after he'd already turned one, And at

1679
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: the moment the cast is on the pressed off were

1680
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: down to abby the Grand Finale movie and they needed

1681
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 3: something to talk about, so they decided to drop the

1682
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: bomb that they actually got married.

1683
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 17: After fifteen years, we all still really like hanging out

1684
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 17: with each other, even outside work.

1685
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: A lot to get this show.

1686
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: I think like so much of my life has been

1687
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: shaped around the show.

1688
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 7: What about if somebody said you are going to actually

1689
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 7: find your way and with a child's incredible changing stuff.

1690
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, was that the most British sounding interview ever?

1691
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 3: It sounded like the Royals talking to each other like lovely,

1692
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 3: lovely for that. I mean, it's the vibe. It is

1693
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 3: the vibe, isn't it? It is the vibe. I would

1694
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 3: love to see them interviewed by some sort of a

1695
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 3: crass Australian and see how that got, just just for

1696
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 3: you know, just for something different. Anyway, send them over

1697
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 3: to Jackie Owen. What's his name? Kyle?

1698
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 10: Is it?

1699
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 3: Kyle is Kyle? And Jackie or Lord? They make Stewart

1700
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 3: Nash look tame. Anyway, the movies and cinemas now it'll

1701
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: be your last chance to catch these characters on screen

1702
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: because the fourteen year long franchise is finally coming to

1703
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 3: a close. And we shall be sad. We shall be

1704
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 3: very sad, won't we. Anyway. Peter Lewis is with us

1705
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 3: out of Hong Kong shortly to talk about Japan and

1706
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 3: all of that investment money going into the US. And

1707
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 3: if I have time, which I now am going to

1708
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 3: have to find, we're gonna have to talk about the

1709
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 3: dog situation. There's a dog, young you've got. It's not

1710
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 3: a good, good yan, but you got to hear this one.

1711
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: News is next.

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01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1713
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: Your business hour we're the head of Duple C Allen

1714
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: and Mas for insurance investments and Huie Safer and you're

1715
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: in good hands. News talks dea'd be.

1716
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 3: We have got Adrianall's new job, so we read you

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Speaker 3: what Business Desk is just reporting. Adrianaw's first commercial engagement

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Speaker 3: since this dramatic early departure of March as Governor of

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Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank will be of New Zealand. Will be

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Speaker 3: to market a long gestating Maori led bioforestry venture to

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Speaker 3: international investors, New Zealand Bioforestry. That's what he's going to

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Speaker 3: be doing. So good luck to them and good.

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Speaker 7: Luck to him.

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Speaker 3: I suppose twenty four away from seven, Peter Lewis Asia

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Speaker 3: Business correspondenters with us. Hello Peter, Hello Heather. Right, Well,

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Speaker 3: who do you think is going to be Japan's next

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister?

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Speaker 15: Well, the chances are it's going to be a rather

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Speaker 15: elderly man who's been around in politics for probably too long.

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Speaker 15: Because that's the way it normally works in Japan. They're

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Speaker 15: all sort of jockeying up for position they've got to get.

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Speaker 15: If you want to be the contender for this LDP election,

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Speaker 15: you've got to get twenty other lawmakers to support you,

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Speaker 15: and then you have to win first of all, that

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Speaker 15: leadership vote within the LDP itself. But even then it's

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Speaker 15: not enough. You've got to then go to Parliament and

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Speaker 15: be voted by a majority in Parliament in the upper

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Speaker 15: and lower houses. And this is where it could be tricky,

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Speaker 15: because this isn't guaranteed either, because the problem is the

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Speaker 15: LDP has lost its majority in both the Upper House

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Speaker 15: and the Lower House, which is why we're having this

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Speaker 15: election in the first place. And then maybe having been

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Speaker 15: appointed prime minister, your chances of survival are not great

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Speaker 15: because Japan has had eighteen prime ministers since nineteen ninety

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Speaker 15: and eleven of them have lasted only one year. So

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Speaker 15: the candidates, the main two is first of all, Shinjiro Koizumi.

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Speaker 15: Now here's the son of a former prime minister, so

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Speaker 15: he has name recognition amongst the public within Japan. He

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Speaker 15: is also the agricultural minister, and he has got some

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Speaker 15: credit because he managed to drive down rice prices over

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Speaker 15: the summer. One of the things that was really led

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01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 15: to the LDP losing their majority was surging inflation, particularly rice,

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01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 15: which in the space of just a few months while

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Speaker 15: he managed to get to grips to that, so he's

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Speaker 15: certainly going to be within the race. The other candidates

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Speaker 15: who breaks the mold of elderly men running for to

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Speaker 15: be prime minister is Takai Sanai, who is a proge

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Speaker 15: of the lates prime minister Shinzo are they and she's

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Speaker 15: a woman, so Japan could conceivably have its first female

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Speaker 15: prime minister. She's a conservative, so she would attract obviously

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Speaker 15: the sort of the middle ground, the right wing base,

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Speaker 15: many of whom have defected to some of these protest parties.

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Speaker 15: So she is definitely a name to watch and she

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Speaker 15: certainly has a chance.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting stuff, Now, why is Japan allowing Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: to decide where Japan invests its money.

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Speaker 15: This is an extraordinarily one sided deal, to the point

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Speaker 15: of which you almost have to believe that maybe Donald

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Speaker 15: Trump is not a bad trade negotetesa. After all. What

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Speaker 15: they are doing is they got this as part of

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Speaker 15: the trade deal which got tariffs reduced on the country,

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Speaker 15: particularly on auto ed exports, down to fifteen percent. Japan

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Speaker 15: agreed to invest five hundred and fifty billion dollars into

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Speaker 15: the US. Now it seems as details of that emerge

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Speaker 15: that really the US has total control over where Japan's

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Speaker 15: money is going to be invested. They're going to set

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Speaker 15: up an investment committee which will be run by US

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Speaker 15: Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik, and they will decide where that

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Speaker 15: money is going to go. And what's more, once the

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Speaker 15: original investment has been paid back, the US is going

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Speaker 15: to keep ninety percent of the profits. This is an

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Speaker 15: extraordinary deal, to the point that you wonder what on

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Speaker 15: earth is Japan thinking in negotiating that, or former Prime

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Speaker 15: Minister Sheiba thinking. You can only imagine that maybe they

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Speaker 15: are just so desperate for this trade deal, particularly the

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Speaker 15: reduction in tariff's on the auto set, so because that's

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Speaker 15: the main part of Japan's economy that they're taking the

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Speaker 15: view that maybe five hundred and fifty billion dollars over

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Speaker 15: three years for Japan is not an awful lot of money,

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Speaker 15: and it will save them an awful lot of economic damage.

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Speaker 15: But nevertheless, this is a very very one sided deal.

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Speaker 15: The US has total discretion to decide if Japan is

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Speaker 15: keeping to that deal as well, and if they don't

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Speaker 15: get the money or don't feel that it's the deal

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Speaker 15: is being upheld, they can go at their discretion reimpose

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Speaker 15: all these tariffs on Japan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, thanks very much, Peter, really appreciate it. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk to you next week again. That's Peter Lewis, our

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Speaker 3: Asia business correspondent coming up nineteen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Ever do for ZLS.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if you listen to the show, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think we're not tough enough on dogs, right, and

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Speaker 3: I think this is an example of us being tough

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Speaker 3: on a dog. But maybe also I mean, let me

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01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 3: talk you through it, draw your own conclusion. So last

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01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 3: year in July, an American football terrier crossbreed attacked a

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Speaker 3: boy and put her to her on the street. What's

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01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 3: happened is the boy and his family were coming out

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Speaker 3: of their home. They were walking to the car. The

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Speaker 3: car was parked on the road outside. They had a

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Speaker 3: family dog. Family dog was on a lead as they

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Speaker 3: were making the way to the car. The attacking dog

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Speaker 3: is called Lucius. So as they're making their way to

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Speaker 3: the car, Lucius comes comes up the road chasing someone else.

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Speaker 3: The boy yells out to his mum, and the dog

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Speaker 3: then clocks the boy and starts coming at the boy.

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Speaker 3: The boy brave little guy gives the family dog to

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Speaker 3: the mum, so the family dog is safe. Not the

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Speaker 3: boy Lucius grabs him from behind, starts tearing chunks out

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Speaker 3: of his thighs thigh. Now it's grim man like. There

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01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 3: are bits of his flesh lying around on like on

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Speaker 3: the footpath outside. So it is a horrific attack, right,

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Speaker 3: So he's taken to hospital. He survives, but you know,

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Speaker 3: the whole thing is just takes a very long time

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Speaker 3: for him to recover. He's in and out of hospital

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Speaker 3: all the time. And of course, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 3: he's young, so he's gonna have a lot of trauma

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Speaker 3: from it, and his parents are gonna have trauma, and

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Speaker 3: everybody's gonna have trauma for seeing this thing happen. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: the day after the attack, the porty Doo, a city

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Speaker 3: council dog pound guys come and take the dog. Now,

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Speaker 3: first problem I have with it, as wise, at the

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Speaker 3: day after, I'd be there within five minutes, dogs in

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01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 3: the van, off we go, bye bye. Anyway, they come

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Speaker 3: and sees the dog. I've got give them a bit

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Speaker 3: of a break, I suppose, for you know, the admin

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01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 3: and stuff. They sees the dog and the thing goes

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Speaker 3: to court. The judge the owner's in trouble for being

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01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: the owner of a dog who attacked and injured. And

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01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: then the judge, sentencing judge makes an order dog's got

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01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 3: to be put down. Owner objects. Owner says these were

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01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: exceptional circumstances. A friend had been trying to take Lucius

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01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 3: for a walk. The harness broke. Lucius was a beloved

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01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: pet to which she was very attached, and she regarded

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01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 3: as more than a pet and central to her mental health.

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01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Judge doesn't care. Judge says, put the dog down. Owner

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01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 3: appeals to the High Court. Goes to the High Court.

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01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 3: She says to the judge and the High Court, Lucius

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 3: has supported her through trauma, mental health struggle, always made

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01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 3: her feel safe. The fact that the dog has to

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01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 3: be put down causes her extreme distress, appetite, lost, depression,

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01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: and constant emotional suffering. Now I'm sure that all of

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01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 3: this is true. I am sure all of it's true

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01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 3: because you love your pet. But loving your pet, I'm sorry,

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 3: does not outweigh the fact that children have a right

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01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 3: to be safe not attacked by the dog. Anyway, turns

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01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,520
Speaker 3: out as well, this is the second time that Lucius

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01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 3: has left the property and rushed towards a person and

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01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 3: their dog. February last year, Lucius ran and a woman

1860
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 3: grabbed her towel ripped a large hole in it before

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01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 3: the owner could get control of the dog anyway. Again,

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01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 3: the judges, as you can imagine, not swayed, says the

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01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 3: dog has got to be put down now. There is

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01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: twenty working days at which the owner can reappeal if

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01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 3: she wants to take it to the appeal court. That

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01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 3: period runs out later this month, and at that point

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Speaker 3: the dog will be put down. Now. While I have

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01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 3: sympathy for the owner, this dog needs to be put down.

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01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 3: I mean this is a slam dunk case, isn't it.

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01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 3: You've got a dog that goes and rips flesh out

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Speaker 3: of a little boy's thigh. Yeah. I mean I wouldn't

1872
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 3: even wait for it if I was the I think

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01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 3: we should need an automatic rule, Like I literally think

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01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 3: we need an automatic rule here in the country. Change

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01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 3: the law. Make it like this dog puts teeth around

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01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 3: a human being. Dog has taken out the back and

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01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 3: shot quickly. Don't we don't need to fight in the

1878
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 3: courts about it. The minute that a dog bites somebody,

1879
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 3: a human. It's out the back, It's gone anyway, And

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01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 3: I do want to extend my sympathies to her because

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01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 3: she will be very upset about this. Sixteen away from

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Speaker 3: seven croaging.

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01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results. It's Heather duplicy Ellen

1884
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: with the business hour and mass for insurance investments and

1885
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: Quie Saber, you're in good hands.

1886
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: News dog said be here that we had a similar

1887
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 3: situation ins Holdranger with the dog attacking evet insane court fiasgo.

1888
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 3: I'm a dog lover, but this is a no brainer, Hey, Heather, Yes,

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01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. Dog bites man. Dog is gone within

1890
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 3: the hour, Yes, Heather, automatic rule, no debate, Yes, Heather,

1891
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 3: shoot the dog, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, at

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01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 3: least I'm not alone and at thirteen away from seven.

1893
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 3: Gavin Gray UK correspondence with me Evan Iiver heard that Okay,

1894
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 3: so has kyistarma explained everything that he knows about Mandelssohn

1895
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 3: and Epstein.

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Speaker 18: No, and there's huge pressure now on him to do more,

1897
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 18: particularly with the Times newspapers this morning reporting that Peter

1898
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 18: Mandilson is not happy with the sacking. Of course, that

1899
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 18: sort of sounds a bit silly, but in this instance,

1900
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,520
Speaker 18: normally it's seat of you know, ambassadors go quite quietly

1901
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 18: and diplomatically and everything sort of then gets back to normal.

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01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 18: I don't think it's going to happen here. Peter Mandilson

1903
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 18: was sacked. Lord Mandleson sacked as the ambassador for the

1904
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 18: UK in the US just days before Donald Trump visits

1905
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 18: London here in order for a state visit to take place.

1906
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 18: And the pair Mandalson and Trump that is get on

1907
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 18: quite well. So this is a highest stakes move by

1908
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 18: this government. And he's been sacked rather than resigned, and

1909
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 18: that apparent is because he's annoyed that he feels he's

1910
01:31:55,960 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 18: been ill treated in that Apparently he claims he told

1911
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Speaker 18: the Prime Minister in the vetting process that he continued

1912
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 18: his relationship with the disgraced and financier Jeffrey Epstein for

1913
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 18: many years, not just until the point at which Epstein

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01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 18: started to be questioned by police or face charges. So

1915
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 18: this idea that their relationship their friendship carried on, according

1916
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 18: to some, is nothing new. But the Prime Minister knowing

1917
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 18: it should he have then appointed him as the UK

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Speaker 18: ambassador in washing It so plenty of questions for secure

1919
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 18: Starman to answer. And this is the second big loss

1920
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 18: of a major member of the upper echelons of this

1921
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 18: labor party in the week. So two big one sacking,

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01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 18: one resignation, really really big stuff here.

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Speaker 3: It is. Now, look, I see that there are a

1924
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 3: bunch of NATO members that are sending the troops and

1925
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 3: the artillery and the air defense systems to secure the

1926
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 3: eastern flank. Is this because they seriously, I mean, do

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Speaker 3: they believe Russia is seriously up to something here?

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Speaker 20: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: And this will really follows those drones being downed over

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Speaker 18: Polish airspace. Now Russia hasn't really commented this. Some suggestion

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Speaker 18: this might have been an accident, but Heather, the drones

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Speaker 18: from Russia were not just you know, half a kilometer

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Speaker 18: a kilometer into Poland. They were you know, several several

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Speaker 18: kilometers into Poland. It caused the airspace for four airports,

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Speaker 18: including Warsaw's main airport, to be shut and many people

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Speaker 18: think this is Russia Vladimir Putin testing Poland, testing NATO

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Speaker 18: about what they are willing and capable of doing. Some incidentally,

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Speaker 18: it sort did not get shot down, so that doesn't

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Speaker 18: suggest incidentally that the defense systems are up to scratch either.

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Speaker 18: But Poland is requesting a UN Security Council session that

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Speaker 18: would take place in about twelve hours time from now,

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Speaker 18: and that is to discuss this further. In the meantime,

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Speaker 18: the Dutch are sending troops to an air defense system

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Speaker 18: of three hundred troops and artillery to Poland. The Czech

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Speaker 18: Republic is sending helicopters around one hundred soldiers. So not

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Speaker 18: all out in everyone jumping in. But the French and

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Speaker 18: British also said to be on the verge of or

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Speaker 18: offering to deploy aircraft to secure NATO's eastern flank, so yes,

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Speaker 18: they are taking this extremely seriously. The missiles. Although the

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Speaker 18: drones had missiles trespassed into some native countries before, this

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Speaker 18: was certainly the most serious incident of its kind since

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Speaker 18: the full scale invasion of Ukraine back in February twenty

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Speaker 18: twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Very fascinating Allisen, Thank you so much, Gavin, as always,

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Speaker 3: have a lovely weekend, Gavin Gray are UK corresponding. By

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Speaker 3: the way, just a little update on the Tom Phillips situation.

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Speaker 3: The cops are getting ready to dismantle the camps, so

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Speaker 3: if you've seen the Heralds coverage today and I highly

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Speaker 3: recommend it just if you want a really good update

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Speaker 3: on what is going on. It looks Heralds chuckter chopper

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Speaker 3: or a drone or something up in the air, and

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Speaker 3: seeing that the cops have basically created like a like

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Speaker 3: a stockpile of stuff that they're bringing out of the

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Speaker 3: camps and they've dumped it all in one spot. And

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Speaker 3: it is a hell of a lot of stuff that

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Speaker 3: Tom Phillips had in there, bikes and generators and all

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Speaker 3: kinds of stuff. So they've got that all together. Once

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Speaker 3: they've collected all of the items and photographed it and

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Speaker 3: done all the forensic stuff that they need to do,

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Speaker 3: they're going to dismantle the camps and then that is

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Speaker 3: going to be the end of it. Eight away from seven,

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Speaker 3: it's the.

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Speaker 1: Heather Tooper see Alan Drive Full show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by news Dog ZB Heather.

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Speaker 3: The Floor with your Dog. Theory is that on occasions

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Speaker 3: when intruders with dishonest intention enter a private property you

1977
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Speaker 3: know slash break ins, and the owner is defended by

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Speaker 3: their loyal canine. I personally think good job. This also

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Speaker 3: includes police dogs who do buit criminals on the run.

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Speaker 3: My point is there does need to be exceptions to

1981
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Speaker 3: your blanket rule, Karen, I will make those exceptions. I

1982
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Speaker 3: think that this is a good idea. We've brainstormed it,

1983
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Speaker 3: We've reached a good solution. Now. Karmala Harris. Carmala Harris

1984
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Speaker 3: is releasing a book. It's called one hundred and seven Days,

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Speaker 3: which I think is a reference to how long she

1986
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Speaker 3: had to run for the presidency. It's a memoir, and

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Speaker 3: she has gone quite hard on Joe Well, you know, no, actually,

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Speaker 3: I think you could say that she's gone quite hard

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Speaker 3: on Joe Biden.

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Speaker 7: In it, she.

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Speaker 3: Says Joe Biden's second presidential run was recklessness. She says

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Speaker 3: she made a colossal mistake in not telling him to

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Speaker 3: give it up, and that it was a choice that

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Speaker 3: should not have been left to an individual's ego, which

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Speaker 3: is pretty bruising. So, as a result, has people have

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Speaker 3: started taking her down. They've started briefing the media that

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Speaker 3: she actually is not that flash as well, his aides

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Speaker 3: told Axios Vice President Harris was simply not good at

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Speaker 3: the job. She had basically zero substantive role in any

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Speaker 3: of the administration's key work. Streams and instead would just

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Speaker 3: dive bomb in for stilted photo ops that exposed how

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Speaker 3: out of depth she was. Biden is not the reason

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Speaker 3: she struggled in office or tanked her twenty nineteen campaign

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Speaker 3: or lost the twenty four ten twenty twenty four campaign.

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Speaker 3: For that matter, the independent variable there is the vice President,

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Speaker 3: not Biden or his ais. A dozen aids accused Harris

2007
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Speaker 3: of trying to blame Biden for her defeat, and.

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Speaker 7: On and on.

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Speaker 3: Ago isn't it isn't it free? Isn't it interesting? Isn't

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Speaker 3: it interesting? How quickly? I mean even I find this remarkable,

2011
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Speaker 3: how quickly these guys have turned on each other. It's

2012
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Speaker 3: talk about trying to save your own skin. Libby, whatever

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Speaker 3: you goes.

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Speaker 11: I've got a bit of ad share in for us,

2015
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Speaker 11: who's just released his eighth album. It's called Play, and

2016
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Speaker 11: I guess this will be the final one before he

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Speaker 11: switches to country.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, I know that's it. And remember what he said?

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Speaker 3: Did you hear what he said? He said, if once

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Speaker 3: you switch to country, you can't switch backus? What ominus? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: ominous and scary. Libby obviously as did not give you

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Speaker 3: a handover about aireda no. So the vibe on the

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Speaker 3: show is that we only went Heather hates Heed, not personally.

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Speaker 3: He seems like a really nice guy, but his music

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Speaker 3: is just credible but also math and so you only

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Speaker 3: play it when you're trolling me. So it's very early

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Speaker 3: to be trolling.

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Speaker 7: I love it, noted.

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Speaker 3: You know, Libby, you should just play Trot. You should

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Speaker 3: play it every single name day next week to get

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Speaker 3: me back. Obviously, obviously obviously. Yeah, Okay, thank you, Libby,

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Speaker 3: bless you. I don't for your first week has been

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Speaker 3: awesome by yourself without training wheels. By the way, have

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Speaker 3: a lovely weekend. We'll see you'll see you on Monday.

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Speaker 19: For all it's Hearance.

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