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Speaker 1: This Gentleman Being podcast. Hey, that's us broad to you

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Speaker 1: by Hello Fresh the Experts and Tastes that kiwis love

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Speaker 1: all black legend in Jones joining us.

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Speaker 2: In this studio.

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Speaker 1: And you bought a like I was going to say

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Speaker 1: a little guest, but a big special guest with it

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Speaker 1: with yourself.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much being hay Meaghan. I cannot come just

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Speaker 2: on my own right, I think you'd be fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't bring scones. I bought the Breeders Cup. Pretty

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Speaker 2: special to all backs, pretty special to New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: And it is a huge truffle. I've never like you

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Speaker 1: see it on TV. You see the captains lifting it up,

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Speaker 1: but it is massive.

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Speaker 3: But you gotta remember on TV being the captain's a

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Speaker 3: massive yeah, Karen Reid, Yeah here you know, big men,

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Speaker 3: big trophy.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't lift it above my head. No, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: lift it very far, to be honest, it's very bias.

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Speaker 3: And when you did lift it, you felt on point,

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Speaker 3: You feunta and sink. You felt like you could have

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Speaker 3: been there lifting it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine there's been a few beers over the

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Speaker 1: years drunk out. It would actually hold quite a lot

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Speaker 2: It well being?

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Speaker 3: And the thing about a test match the build up

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Speaker 3: Monday to said that it is heart it is stressful.

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Speaker 3: So yep, when you do win, you have to celebrate,

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Speaker 3: right and that is a message for everyone. Hit a goal,

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Speaker 3: tap yourself on the back, celebrate that goal and yep

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Speaker 3: sometimes that thing does get filled up.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I find confusing though, is the Bleederslow Cup is huge,

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Speaker 4: but then when you see the World Cup it's very little.

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Speaker 2: Mean you're a Lady of the World silver. Yeah, oh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: The World Cup is gold, yeah, gold, blingy and beautiful.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Cup's great. But the World Cup, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got a finer. So All Blacks Experience is something

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Speaker 1: that you're now the general manager of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's superstoke.

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Speaker 3: So All Blacks Experience based in the sky City, pres

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Speaker 3: think come on and they're all the time, come for

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Speaker 3: a chat, even if you have to YouTube who I am,

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Speaker 2: It's this amazing interactive experience. Ben it.

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Speaker 3: It is his fantastic hits to the core. And that's

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Speaker 3: like I say to share my wide, all Blacks wide.

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Speaker 3: You know, you go into the start and you leave

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Speaker 3: just absolutely buzzing and deep to the heart because you

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Speaker 3: take you to the making. How do you make an

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Speaker 3: all black or black fern? Well, how you make a

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Speaker 3: regular player or any sports person or even a radio

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Speaker 3: DJ has let them fall in love with what they do.

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Speaker 3: Once you absolutely love it, you're into it, then we

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Speaker 3: play shape and how do you shape that love into

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Speaker 3: the skills that you two have right here or the

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Speaker 3: all black Black fans have lots of little games and

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Speaker 3: then a real special treat at the end being I

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Speaker 3: want you to bring you in because you sit in

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Speaker 3: the changeings. What is it like being an all black

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Speaker 3: You know, when you put that all black jersey on

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Speaker 3: for the first time, you feel like Superman. You're almost invincible, right,

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Speaker 3: and you walk down the tunnel, start to hear the anthem,

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Speaker 3: start to hear the crowd noise, all those anxieties kind

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Speaker 3: of come back, and then you stand and face the hacker,

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Speaker 3: both all blacks and black Ferns, and it is just

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Speaker 3: mind blowing. So you leave that you are an all

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Speaker 4: Forever do you remember the first moment putting on the

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Speaker 4: jersey and having that moment in yourself the first time

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Speaker 4: you put on the all black jersey.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember absolutely?

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Speaker 3: It was a long time ago, in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: I was actually presented my jersey by Buckshelf of the

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Speaker 3: And you just kind of looked at it and you

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Speaker 3: The instant I put it on, I kind of knew

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Speaker 3: were never going to lose. It was almost that mindset. Okay,

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Speaker 3: clearly sometimes you did, but I never lose this jersey.

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Speaker 3: You look around these men and you literally do grow

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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm nearly there, yeah quite tall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you feel so strong, so powerful, and so connected.

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Speaker 3: It has an amazing experience. And yet you come down

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Speaker 3: here you go from good to great? Is handle those

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Speaker 3: some people tense up and never hit your peek. Well

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Speaker 3: that's what people find out walking down the tun It

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Speaker 3: is so so inspiring.

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Speaker 1: A very cool thing, a very unique thing that we

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Speaker 1: have here. On offer in New zeal And the all

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Speaker 1: Blacks experience and you being in charge. Now, what are

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Speaker 1: they getting here? Like putting a paper in the photocopy,

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Speaker 1: cleaning the bathrooms? I mean, what's the things you.

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Speaker 2: Have to do? But I opened up this morning.

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Speaker 3: I'm there dust tackling people coming out they come on in.

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Speaker 3: But the best thing we've got coming out there school holidays.

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Speaker 3: Of course, because I'm there, I can do things.

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Speaker 2: I want to do.

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Speaker 3: Right, So hey, kids come free or one kid per

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Speaker 3: I want them to kind of feel the all Blacks

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Speaker 3: and the Black fans values. But you've heard about the

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Speaker 3: week book stat attacks, right, big cards been around a

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Speaker 3: long long time on Wednesday and Thursday of this week.

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Speaker 2: So ten am through to five pm, come along. They

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Speaker 2: can weep big stat attacks, big activation. There.

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Speaker 3: Kids can make up their own cards, so you might

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Speaker 3: have a Ben Boys Legends.

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Speaker 2: Card or make your own.

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Speaker 3: It's a thing here we're giving away because this is

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Speaker 3: me being we can give away things when the general manager.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be some gold cards.

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Speaker 3: So if into the week Big stat attack and you

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Speaker 3: know who the gold card is, Doctor far Apartment, his

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Speaker 3: do the tour, buy yourself a jersey, get into the week,

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Speaker 3: big stat attack, be inspired and you may even recognize

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Speaker 3: who I am.

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Speaker 1: And obviously though people can see like the letters of

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Speaker 1: a cup and other trophies on display.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's one of the best things about opening the

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Speaker 3: All Black experience up until then, and not just New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby, but all organizations around the world. We used

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Speaker 3: to hide our trophies in the corporate offices. Now we

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Speaker 3: can display them. So I'm going to have the breathers

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Speaker 3: a cup out during the week. I even rang Richard

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Speaker 3: World Cup, so you can come along take a photo

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Speaker 3: of that, which he said, no problems whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Just don't letting the Australians to touch it was his message.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't hold on to it the different World Cups.

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Speaker 3: So for every time you win a Wi Cup eighty

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Speaker 2: Fifteen, you get the real, the gold one megan.

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Speaker 3: For a year with security guards, then you get this

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I rang.

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Speaker 3: Up Richie because he was a captain of course, Hey Richie,

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Speaker 3: can we display and for these people who come along

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Speaker 3: for the week bookstat attack Wednesday Thursday, can they take

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Speaker 2: So there we go.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have the better of the cup, have

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Speaker 3: a photo with it once again, no Australians to touch

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Speaker 3: and we'll have the World Cup. But come along man

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Speaker 3: and all this week. Parents if you know, or caregivers, grandparents,

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Speaker 3: what do you want to do with those kids in

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Speaker 3: the holidays? Bring them down, We'll look after them for

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Speaker 3: a couple of hours. They'll have the time of their life.

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Speaker 2: It's a really cool thing.

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Speaker 1: You can see how excited you are now doing it,

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Speaker 1: which is great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's just so powerful.

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Speaker 3: It's not just about rugby, right, It's just about who

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Speaker 3: we are as keywis the values that we share, the.

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Speaker 2: Culture of the team, of the country every step of

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Speaker 3: I don't actually say our guides are world class because

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Speaker 3: they're not. They are all black class and that is

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Speaker 3: high and you could ever get and they just share

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Speaker 3: about different things. We've got jes Zys here that they

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Speaker 3: want that buzz. You know when you go to a

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Speaker 2: That's what we want to feel every time.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's so cool and to see not just kids,

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Speaker 3: who New Zealand Rugby is all Blacks, the Black Ferns,

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Speaker 2: It is beautiful. Man. I am so proud when people

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Speaker 4: To me, you're You're a legend as well.

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Speaker 1: Like when I first started wanted to get into TV,

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Speaker 1: I was I made a crappy pilot for a pop sport,

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Speaker 1: you know the show that I have the first Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: and well that was the thing, but no experience. Really

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Speaker 1: rang around a few people to make this pilot for

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Speaker 1: free and in Jones, one of my heroes, said yes

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Speaker 2: Pilot for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Came along to a flat, a scungy flat in the

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Speaker 1: amazing what you did and you know, I think we

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Speaker 2: But it was a wonderful thing that you did, so

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Speaker 2: thank you. And the one I loved about that was

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Speaker 2: the lighthouse. Yeah, it was just so tall. It was

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Speaker 2: all about the fact you were so tall. Next door,

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Speaker 2: so no, come along.

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Speaker 3: I mean absolutely phenomenal to just come up and say

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Speaker 3: I'm always there are lots of all blacks and black

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Speaker 3: ferns just come walking around the place because the all

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Speaker 3: Blacks experience was built on the legacy of all the

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Speaker 3: players have worn black, so it's their space and Auckland,

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Speaker 3: so there's lots of players was coming around using my office,

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Speaker 3: using using my ten coffee.

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Speaker 4: So if you see Ian Jones there, ask him if

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Speaker 4: you can use his wife.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all black experience. I've got some dub so passes,

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Speaker 1: some family passes to give away. Just before you go,

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Speaker 1: we talk about weep bik stats. Do you remember some

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Speaker 1: of your stats? And my three some questions yep, go away?

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Speaker 1: How many tests did you play?

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Speaker 2: Was it seventy nine, Yes, it was, so.

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Speaker 1: How many games did you play for New Zealm?

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Speaker 2: I know that one hundred and five? Well don't yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you go. Okay are your all black debut? Do

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Speaker 2: you remember what year it was? Yep?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty nine. It was against the Cardiff Rugby Club

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, and your actually all black test? It

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Speaker 2: was the year after, yeah, nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 3: The unique thing about my all black debut was in

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Speaker 3: a white all black jersey. Oh, Scotland, I scored a

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Speaker 3: try on debut fifty tests later.

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Speaker 2: On the same ground, on the same blader grass. It

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Speaker 2: is the same opposition. Scotland scored another try. So you

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Speaker 2: know your stats? How many test drice did you overall? Nine? Yeah? Nine?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And finally you scored three tries in a Super rugby game,

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Speaker 1: a Super twelve rugby game in nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 2: Who are you playing a game? I do remember? That

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Speaker 2: was at and Hamilton against New South Wales. Was the words.

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Speaker 1: There you go? You know, hey, wonderful to see you again.

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Speaker 1: It's really really awesome what you're doing. And people should

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Speaker 1: get along school holidays sounds like a great time.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Come on down, got blas her cap, got the World Cup,

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Speaker 3: got the week books that attack. Of course, we've also

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Speaker 3: got some signed jerseys that we can give away plenty

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Speaker 3: to do so Sky said, you pre think and the

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Speaker 3: other thing because I'm just at Libert now and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure Sky said, you will be happy with this.

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Speaker 2: Free parking on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I'll give them free parking if they come down, do

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Speaker 3: a tour well off in free parking the details later

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Speaker 3: to just tell.

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Speaker 1: Them the Camo kids just come again, the All Blakes experience,

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Speaker 1: go along the school holidays and this week of course

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Speaker 1: the special wheetbooks thing they're doing as well.

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Speaker 2: Sounds awesome. Nice to see you again, Thanks very much,