WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: December 1, 2024

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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<v Speaker 1>wolf Camp from News Talks at Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>The house is a hole, even when it's darks, even

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<v Speaker 2>when the grass is overgrown.

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<v Speaker 3>In the yard, even when.

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<v Speaker 2>A dog is too old to borrow, And when you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at the table trying not to stop in the

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<v Speaker 2>house scissor home, even when we are band gone, even when.

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<v Speaker 4>You're there alone, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>A house sizzle hole, even when those goes, even when.

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<v Speaker 5>You got around from the world, you love your move.

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<v Speaker 4>Screamed bling pains being.

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<v Speaker 6>In fund the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Locals lisball when they're going.

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<v Speaker 7>Leaving the.

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<v Speaker 2>House, even when web Ben love even when you're there.

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<v Speaker 4>Lone alrighty, oh, good morning.

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<v Speaker 8>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I hope that you've had a good week.

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<v Speaker 8>My name is pepe off Camp, the Resident Builder, and

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<v Speaker 8>this is the Resident Builder on Sunday. So we are

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<v Speaker 8>here to talk about your place, to talk about all

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<v Speaker 8>things building and construction. So as I say, I trust

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<v Speaker 8>that you've had a good week. For those of you, well,

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<v Speaker 8>I think South Island had a fair amount of rain.

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<v Speaker 8>We've certainly had well steady rain, which came as a

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<v Speaker 8>bit of a surprise after what was a tremendous day

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<v Speaker 8>on Friday. It was hot, it was still, it was light,

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<v Speaker 8>and then Saturday has been a bit sort of but

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<v Speaker 8>ho hum, hasn't it And it's still raining this morning,

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<v Speaker 8>which is probably what do there we say anytime rain

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<v Speaker 8>comes and it's not too bad, Oh, it's good for

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<v Speaker 8>the garden. Well it probably has been, so yeah, it

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<v Speaker 8>was raining last night, which meant that no one could drive,

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<v Speaker 8>which means in the motorways were all blocked up and

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<v Speaker 8>trying it. I was just ready to start a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of jobs around the house, and maybe I'm taking the

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<v Speaker 8>weather as an excuse not to crack into a few things.

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<v Speaker 8>So if you're thinking, gosh, my excuse for not getting

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<v Speaker 8>started is I'm not quite sure what to do, then

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<v Speaker 8>the show is for you. I'm not offering up other excuses,

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<v Speaker 8>the other ways of getting out of doing jobs. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>offering to you the opportunity to talk about a project

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<v Speaker 8>that you might have or a dilemma that you might

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<v Speaker 8>be facing around the house, and we can look for

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<v Speaker 8>some suggestions and some solutions to those challenges that we have.

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<v Speaker 8>So the lines are open. The number to call, oh

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<v Speaker 8>eight hundred eighty ten, eighty. You can text, of course,

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<v Speaker 8>because it is you can text through that's nine two

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<v Speaker 8>nine two or ZEDBZB from your mobile phone. And if

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<v Speaker 8>you'd like to send me an email, you're more than welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that.

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<v Speaker 8>It's Pete at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz. So Pete

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<v Speaker 8>at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz. Righty, oh, well, construction

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<v Speaker 8>has been so much in the news recently, lots of

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<v Speaker 8>stuff around social housing networks, community housing providers, which is well,

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<v Speaker 8>it's an important issue. I'm more than happy to talk

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<v Speaker 8>about it on the show this morning. And also, well,

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<v Speaker 8>I guess the most significant thing is today is the

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<v Speaker 8>first of December. So if you start to think about

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<v Speaker 8>getting the house ready for Christmas, if you're starting to

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<v Speaker 8>think about perhaps getting some trade, e's in to get

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<v Speaker 8>some jobs. This is the classic Christmas rush sort of

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<v Speaker 8>hasn't felt like it's really kicked off this year. It's

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<v Speaker 8>been a quiet year, right for most tradespeople. So typically

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<v Speaker 8>that Christmas rush, which might start sort of late October,

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes early October if it's been a good year, doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>really feel that it's there right now. But if you

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<v Speaker 8>do have a project that you'd like to get started

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<v Speaker 8>and get finished more importantly before Christmas. Well, today's the

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<v Speaker 8>first of December. You need to get underway with it.

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<v Speaker 8>So if you'd like to call, oh, eight hundred eighty

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<v Speaker 8>ten eighty is that number to call. We are back

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<v Speaker 8>to sort of normal scheduling today on the program No

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<v Speaker 8>Rugby Commentary. The All Blacks obviously have finished their Northern tour,

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<v Speaker 8>so Rid will join us at as regular time at

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<v Speaker 8>around eight point thirty this morning through till nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 8>We have Bryce McDermott from Razine Paints. He will be

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<v Speaker 8>available to answer any of your specific painting questions. Let's

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<v Speaker 8>do that at around seven forty five this morning, So

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<v Speaker 8>Bryce at seven forty five this morning. If you've got

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<v Speaker 8>any specific painting questions that you would like to ask

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<v Speaker 8>of Bryce, he will be available, as I say, from

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<v Speaker 8>seven forty five this morning, Oh eight hundred eighty ten addy. Though,

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<v Speaker 8>Now if I'm getting some texts already, that's great. If

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<v Speaker 8>you've got any building questions or want to make some

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<v Speaker 8>comments around building and construction, oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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<v Speaker 8>eighty is the number to call. First text was all

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<v Speaker 8>about the song I'm not even going to go there right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>good morning, regular caller. However, throat isn't suitable for radio

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<v Speaker 8>this morning. Any ideas on this. I have a unit

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<v Speaker 8>with jib painted unit with a jib painted wall that

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<v Speaker 8>meets a plywood roof and need to sort out a

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<v Speaker 8>flashing to finish it off. At a loss what to

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<v Speaker 8>know what might look good or work well? Kind regards

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<v Speaker 8>from Paul what jumps to mind. So if you've got

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<v Speaker 8>plywood ceiling or a plywood roof and then you've got

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<v Speaker 8>plasterboard running up to it is if it's already done,

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<v Speaker 8>it's a little bit too late. But if I was

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<v Speaker 8>building it from scratch, I would probably look at like

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<v Speaker 8>a little negative detail, a little flashing. There's various different

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<v Speaker 8>jib flashings. They're made by jibs metal flashings that will

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<v Speaker 8>allow you to have like a little negative detail. So

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<v Speaker 8>you'd have the plasterboard running into the wall, then you

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<v Speaker 8>put in a little negative detail and then bring your

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<v Speaker 8>plasterboard or you had to have your plywood rather running

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<v Speaker 8>into the wall, put in a negative detail and stop

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<v Speaker 8>up to that, and you end up with like a

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<v Speaker 8>little ten mil bead or ten mil recess running around

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<v Speaker 8>the perimeter that would look really tight and tidy. I

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<v Speaker 8>guess now, Paul, for you just a scotia and then

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<v Speaker 8>painted in with the wall color. If you pre paint

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<v Speaker 8>the scotia before it goes up, then you don't. Cutting

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<v Speaker 8>in becomes a little bit easier as well, especially when

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<v Speaker 8>you're trying to do paint to plywood, which is probably

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<v Speaker 8>going to be clear finished. Cutting in along there is

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<v Speaker 8>always a bit of a challenge. So if you prepaint

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<v Speaker 8>the scotia, it's much easier to tidy that up later on.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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<v Speaker 8>to call. We'll talk all things building construction, and we'll

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<v Speaker 8>have a crack at a little bit of plumbing as well. Simon,

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<v Speaker 8>good morning to you. Gosh, there is something with the screen, gotcha? Silent? Simon, Hello, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 8>go for it.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay. I have an old brass tap and I removed

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<v Speaker 9>I wanted to replace the washer if they want. It's

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<v Speaker 9>not a rubber one. It's one of those light brown ones.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. They almost feel sort of fiberish, don't they.

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<v Speaker 9>That's right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>And the old one, I I can't get it off.

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<v Speaker 9>It just seems to be completely.

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<v Speaker 8>As kind of embedded. Yeah, used together and so I.

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<v Speaker 9>Ended up up doing was putting a new one over

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<v Speaker 9>the top of the old one, but it left me

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<v Speaker 9>with very little thread to screw the little nut back

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<v Speaker 9>on the back onto the TAP's the one that closes

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<v Speaker 9>off the water from coming in. So do you know

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<v Speaker 9>how I can get the old washer off?

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<v Speaker 8>I would have thought that to be if it was me,

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<v Speaker 8>I would just attack it with a sharp knife. Right

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<v Speaker 8>in the sense that the washer itself, the fibrous one,

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<v Speaker 8>sits or beds against a plunger, and the plunger is

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<v Speaker 8>made of brass. So in the end, as long as

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<v Speaker 8>you're a little bit delicate, you can't really damage the

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<v Speaker 8>plunger as such. So I just set to it with

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<v Speaker 8>a knife, cut around the perimeter of it and then

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<v Speaker 8>cut it into pieces, cut it off, maybe use a

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<v Speaker 8>wirebrush to clean it up, and then you can seat

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<v Speaker 8>your new washer onto the plunger and have more turns

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<v Speaker 8>on the thread of the nut that goes that holds

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<v Speaker 8>it in place. Yeah, yeah, right, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 8>be I mean, you have to be a little bit delicate,

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<v Speaker 8>but you know it's it's metal versus fiber, so it'll

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<v Speaker 8>be fine.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh okay, Can I ask you another quick question, Do

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<v Speaker 9>you know what a wet back is?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, So, a wet back typically is a system where

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<v Speaker 8>let's say you have a an argur or you know,

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<v Speaker 8>a type of wood burning fire, you know, either for

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<v Speaker 8>cooking or for heating. And then what people will do

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<v Speaker 8>is they'll set up a system of pipework behind there

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<v Speaker 8>that will have water flowing through it. The water is

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<v Speaker 8>then heated by the appliance, by either the ivan or

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<v Speaker 8>something like that. And what it does is you can

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<v Speaker 8>use it if you've got sufficient storage for all of

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<v Speaker 8>your water supply, or I think most commonly people use

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<v Speaker 8>it to preheat the water going to the cylinder. So

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<v Speaker 8>if so, for example, cold water is twenty two or

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<v Speaker 8>twenty three degrees, typically the maximum temperature we want coming

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<v Speaker 8>out of a cylinder is fifty five degrees. So if

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<v Speaker 8>the water coming in is already at forty degrees, for example,

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<v Speaker 8>because it's passed through the heating system at the back

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<v Speaker 8>of the wet bag, then you're using less energy to

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<v Speaker 8>get the temperature up. That's as I understand, that's how

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<v Speaker 8>the theory, that's how it works. Oh yeah, right, I was.

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<v Speaker 9>Asking is because my plumber was doing some work under

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<v Speaker 9>the house, and there was some kind of flu that

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<v Speaker 9>was under the house that was going out to the side.

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<v Speaker 9>So I've got around the house, I've it's all closed in. Yes,

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<v Speaker 9>it's raised lawboards, and it was connected to one of

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<v Speaker 9>the vents on the underside of the house. So you

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<v Speaker 9>know how you've and you've the in the house when

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<v Speaker 9>you've got raised floor, it's got the concrete around on

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<v Speaker 9>the perimitive the house and all the events. So one

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<v Speaker 9>of the events has this flu attached. And the plumber said, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>that looks as though it might be to do with

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<v Speaker 9>an old wet back, and I was wondering what that was.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, I mean a flu typically flues run vertically

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<v Speaker 8>up right, they don't necessarily run across. Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 8>it's quite possible. It's unusual, but it is quite.

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<v Speaker 9>Possible, Okay, Because I was just wondering whether I could

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<v Speaker 9>just remove it.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, I think I would trace it along from outside

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<v Speaker 8>to underneath the house, and if ultimately, if you get

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<v Speaker 8>to the end of it or where something was attached

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<v Speaker 8>to it, and nothing is attached to it, then yes,

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<v Speaker 8>you could remove it. Yeah, what's your existing hot water system,

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<v Speaker 8>what's the heating system.

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<v Speaker 9>Electric ok yeah, low pressure.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, so that'll have that doesn't need to be flu,

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<v Speaker 8>but it will have an overflow so that if the

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<v Speaker 8>pressure builds up inside the cylinder, it overflows and the

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<v Speaker 8>water should flow to the outside of the building. Right,

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<v Speaker 8>So obviously that's a different thing. But yeah, the flu. Look,

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<v Speaker 8>if it's if it's not attached to anything you've been

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<v Speaker 8>under there, go ahead and rip it out.

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<v Speaker 9>Yep.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, nice to talk to you. Sign all the

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<v Speaker 8>best by your new salk seed B. If you've got

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<v Speaker 8>a question of a building nature, eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 8>ten eighty is that number to call. So one good

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<v Speaker 8>morning to you.

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<v Speaker 10>Morning.

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<v Speaker 8>How are you morning, mate, I'm very well in yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, good.

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<v Speaker 11>Question.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm gonna love with them. I'm gonna go doing some

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<v Speaker 12>work and realize the platting they're still clading is getting

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<v Speaker 12>for us. And I saw some stuff like ants and

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<v Speaker 12>stuff crossing handier and it looks like we need to

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<v Speaker 12>change it. And knowing that lockhood, the builders are quite hesitant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>anything inside outside, So just when I get some some

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<v Speaker 12>ideas though, the people whom I can call or what's it.

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<v Speaker 12>Of course, we're looking at if there's any standard costing.

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<v Speaker 8>When you say that the clouding is starting to deteriorate,

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<v Speaker 8>or you said it's getting poorous, what do you like

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<v Speaker 8>is it? Is it no longer weather type, which would

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<v Speaker 8>be unusual, or is it just an issue around Obviously

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<v Speaker 8>over time, some vermin, you know, some ants and that

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<v Speaker 8>sort of thing I've managed to make their way into.

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<v Speaker 12>It's it's all time issues. A bit of sun and

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<v Speaker 12>what if you are the natural elements working on it,

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<v Speaker 12>I've got to an excellent depend on it. It's still seen,

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<v Speaker 12>but you can see underneath or where the cladding is

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<v Speaker 12>close to the nown you could see again there's a

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<v Speaker 12>lot it's more deterioration there.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the mud or.

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<v Speaker 12>Other boots as well.

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<v Speaker 8>And this is one of those things that it's often

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<v Speaker 8>a maintenance issue over time. And I'm guessing you know,

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<v Speaker 8>if it's an older lockwood home, it could be sort

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<v Speaker 8>of forty years old something like that. Yeah, okay, well

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<v Speaker 8>that's forty years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>It doesn't feel like forty years ago, but it is.

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<v Speaker 8>It's anyway, long story, and sometimes with some of the

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<v Speaker 8>earlier Lockwoods, it was a metal cladding rather than a

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<v Speaker 8>timber cladding. Is it a metal or timber cladding.

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<v Speaker 12>Its timber cladding.

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<v Speaker 8>It is timber. Okay, Look, I think the great thing

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<v Speaker 8>with lockwood is that they're still around, right, So I

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<v Speaker 8>would suggest that your first call is actually to them

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<v Speaker 8>to go, hey, look, I've got an older building. It's

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<v Speaker 8>still in good condition, but I need to do some work.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, are there some local experts that I could

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<v Speaker 8>call on? And I'm sure that within their network of

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<v Speaker 8>builders and so on, they would still have people who

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<v Speaker 8>are involved, So I think that would be a good

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<v Speaker 8>source of information. Otherwise, typically, if the profile of the

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<v Speaker 8>weather board is still available, or if you needed to

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<v Speaker 8>do enough of it that it warranted the cost of

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<v Speaker 8>paying to have the weatherboard's custom made, just fixing the

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<v Speaker 8>weatherboards that are an issue you could do. I suspect

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<v Speaker 8>that the way in which we did vermin treatment forty

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<v Speaker 8>years ago is quite different to today. So today, if

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<v Speaker 8>we've got a cavity on most cladding, which we do,

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<v Speaker 8>there is a little you know, there are a variety

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<v Speaker 8>of pre made strips that will essentially prevent vermin from

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<v Speaker 8>getting in there, saying that ants would get through, but

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<v Speaker 8>other vermin won't. So it's really about mice and other

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<v Speaker 8>creatures like that to get in and nest in the cladding.

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<v Speaker 8>So you could go through if you really wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>and address that. If the ground level, and we see

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<v Speaker 8>this all the time on buildings. You know, a building

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<v Speaker 8>is built and then over time people build up garden

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<v Speaker 8>beds and raise levels and start to get closer and

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<v Speaker 8>closer to the cladding. Ideally, at a bare minimum, you

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<v Speaker 8>should have about a fifty millimeter gap from the bottom

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<v Speaker 8>of your cladding to any other ground surface, right, particularly

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<v Speaker 8>something like a garden bed. So again, if the garden

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<v Speaker 8>beds have grown and raised in height, strip those back

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<v Speaker 8>and lower those levels. Allow those boards to ventilate. If

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<v Speaker 8>those boards have been rotten become rotten, you could replace

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<v Speaker 8>those boards. But I think as the first step i'd know,

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<v Speaker 8>given that the company is still in existence and will

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<v Speaker 8>be for years to come, I'd get in touch with

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<v Speaker 8>Lockwood directly and just go, hey, look, put me in

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<v Speaker 8>touch with someone. Good luck at work today, Yeah, go yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>thank you all the best, go go go.

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<v Speaker 11>Yep.

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<v Speaker 12>You mentioned something about the metal clanning. We've got to reserve,

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<v Speaker 12>to reserve at the back of the house, and more

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<v Speaker 12>than most that's a common problem. The thing is could

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<v Speaker 12>be one of the option if Firings lock with home

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<v Speaker 12>and discuss that, or that's something you wouldn't recommend.

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<v Speaker 8>A look In terms of no, I think I probably.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 8>I'd look at it and go in the end even

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<v Speaker 8>if it, you know, whatever the cost of doing some

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<v Speaker 8>remediation and some repairs, it will be considerably less than

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<v Speaker 8>the cost of a reclad And unless you said to me, look,

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<v Speaker 8>the cladding is an extremely poor condition, I would say

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<v Speaker 8>it doesn't strike me as an economic or environmentally friendly

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<v Speaker 8>solution to rip off a whole bunch of clouding that's

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<v Speaker 8>actually serviceable to replace it with a different type of platting.

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<v Speaker 8>That would be my approach.

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<v Speaker 12>All right, now that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 8>Good of you to call take care, enjoy your work today,

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<v Speaker 8>take care your news, stork seed. But as this is

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<v Speaker 8>quite in contrast to a job that I went to

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<v Speaker 8>look at sort of like a little community project. Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 8>can we do some work on this building to restore

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<v Speaker 8>it and get it more functional for the community, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 8>et cetera. But to be fair, it was in such

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<v Speaker 8>poor condition. You know, there were weather boards that had rotted,

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<v Speaker 8>There were weather boards that had rotted, and fallen off

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<v Speaker 8>or been ripped off by vandals, and then the cladding

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<v Speaker 8>had been or their framing had been exposed for such

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<v Speaker 8>a long period of time that there was extensive rot.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's one of those ones where you go along

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<v Speaker 8>to look at it and people go, oh, can we

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<v Speaker 8>tidy up some weather boards and repaint it? And I'm

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<v Speaker 8>looking at it going, well, probably fifty percent of the

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<v Speaker 8>weather boards on this elevation anyway of the building, on

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<v Speaker 8>one wall of the building are unserviceable. They're either completely

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<v Speaker 8>rotten or they're missing. Then beyond that, I can see

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<v Speaker 8>that in some cases fifty percent of the stud has

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<v Speaker 8>been and is missing, so that's got to then be replaced.

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<v Speaker 8>So what starts as a little job, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 8>for many of us as home owners, this is familiar territory, right,

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<v Speaker 8>what starts as a little job just suddenly just spirals

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<v Speaker 8>out of control in a sense and becomes a much

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<v Speaker 8>much bigger job involving reframing parts of the building, which

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<v Speaker 8>also removes which means you've got to remove the internal lining.

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<v Speaker 8>So suddenly patching a weatherboard becomes replacing studs, replacing internal lining,

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<v Speaker 8>stopping painting inside new weather boards on the outside. Can

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<v Speaker 8>you get that particular profile, you can see how jobs

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<v Speaker 8>grow sometimes, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 8>the number to call. Will come back straight after the break.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you to the texter who's come through and just said, Pete,

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<v Speaker 8>there's a really good Facebook group called DIY Lockwood. I

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<v Speaker 8>haven't looked at it. I can't vouch for it, but

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<v Speaker 8>if it's good and the advice is sound, every now

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<v Speaker 8>and then you do have to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>cautious about the advice. And some of the stuff you

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<v Speaker 8>see online, isn't it. I mean, that's it. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 8>you nothing you don't know. But sometimes in terms of DIY,

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<v Speaker 8>because look, I watch videos online as well of different

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<v Speaker 8>carpenters and different trades people doing things, and every now

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<v Speaker 8>and then I just kind of go, oh, I hope

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<v Speaker 8>people don't follow that particular piece of advice. But then

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<v Speaker 8>I'm playing in that space as well at the moment.

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<v Speaker 8>So we've got a YouTube channel that's being built and

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<v Speaker 8>a library of topics and discussion and top issues for

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<v Speaker 8>discussion are being loaded into that. So I'd like to

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<v Speaker 8>think that I'm a little bit more considered than some

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<v Speaker 8>in terms of the opinions that I might offer. But

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<v Speaker 8>that's up and running on YouTube as well. You search

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<v Speaker 8>for it under resident builder or Peter wolf Camp. You'll

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<v Speaker 8>find it there. Building up a library there quick text

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<v Speaker 8>as well. Hey, I'm looking at purchasing a property in Wellington.

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<v Speaker 8>The property needs a retaining wall to be fair. If

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<v Speaker 8>you've been to Wellington, you'll understand why most properties have

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<v Speaker 8>retaining walls. The property needs a retaining wall between the properties.

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<v Speaker 8>Who pays for it higher the lower or both regards gilly,

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<v Speaker 8>I would suggest that whoever gets the benefit of it

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<v Speaker 8>pays for it. So if you're on the high side,

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<v Speaker 8>and for example, you want to level out your lawn,

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<v Speaker 8>for example, you know where it's sloping at the moment,

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<v Speaker 8>you're thinking, I'd like to have a nice level lawn,

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm going to put a retaining wall on the

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<v Speaker 8>boundary and that will give me a level lawn. Then

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<v Speaker 8>you will pay for it, and it will need to

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<v Speaker 8>be on your side of the fence. If, for example,

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<v Speaker 8>you're on the lower side of the slope and you're thinking, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 8>if I retained a little bit of that bank, I

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<v Speaker 8>could create a level area in there as well. And

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<v Speaker 8>so it's in your benefit, but you're on the lower side,

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<v Speaker 8>then it would be on your side of the boundary

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<v Speaker 8>and you would need to pay for that as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So retaining walls not like fences in terms of being

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<v Speaker 8>able to seek a contribution from a neighbor. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>think oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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<v Speaker 8>to call and David, a very good morning to you, A.

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<v Speaker 13>Very good morning, Peter. I've even intrigued with these packets,

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<v Speaker 13>like from trade tested. I was synthetic decking tiles, you

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<v Speaker 13>know kind of I think met a meter squag about

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<v Speaker 13>ten to a bundle. But I was thinking, I've got

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<v Speaker 13>a decking outside decking. It's twenty five mil highness. And

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<v Speaker 13>when the builder put it in, I queried the you know,

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<v Speaker 13>it's about forty years old. Now I queried the thickness

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<v Speaker 13>and he said no, I've got the bearers closer together

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<v Speaker 13>than normal. So I don't know he's a builder or not.

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<v Speaker 13>And anyway, I just thought, well to reinforce that deck

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<v Speaker 13>and make it newer. Are these synthetic? I don't know

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<v Speaker 13>if that plastic wood or all plastic. Have you any

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<v Speaker 13>dealings with them?

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<v Speaker 8>As in a side I did buy four outdoor chairs

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<v Speaker 8>from trade tested just the other day. But that's not

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<v Speaker 8>really what you're asking about. Very nice cheers by the way,

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<v Speaker 8>But okay, so it's synthetic decking tiles one of the

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<v Speaker 8>issues meter square right, okay, oh yeah, I can see

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<v Speaker 8>them here, so.

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<v Speaker 13>We also I asked, you know, I queried it and

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<v Speaker 13>it said yes, can be laid it straight over top

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<v Speaker 13>of wooden decking.

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<v Speaker 8>I just wanted to job, right, Okay, okay, So I'm

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<v Speaker 8>looking at them now. So what they what they are

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<v Speaker 8>is you've got the decking material, but underneath you've got

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<v Speaker 8>like a plastic grid, right, And that was going to

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<v Speaker 8>be my concern is that if you put you know,

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<v Speaker 8>another surface on the top of your pine and there's

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<v Speaker 8>no ability, like, you won't stop the moisture. So moisture

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<v Speaker 8>will get trapped between the two surfaces and that will

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<v Speaker 8>accelerate the decay. So timber is treated in a different

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<v Speaker 8>way depending on what the conditions of its use are.

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<v Speaker 8>So something that is all going to be saturated like

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<v Speaker 8>it's in the ground or so on, gets treated to

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<v Speaker 8>a higher level. Timber that is treated for outdoor use.

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<v Speaker 8>H three typically is designed to get wet but to

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<v Speaker 8>dry out. But if you ended up sandwiching something over

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<v Speaker 8>the top of your existing decking and it wouldn't dry out,

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<v Speaker 8>then it would accelerate the decay. In this instance, here

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<v Speaker 8>the packs of deck tiles actually have a plastic grid

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<v Speaker 8>underneath them, which means that there will be airflow between

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<v Speaker 8>your new surface and your old surface, in which case, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that would be my primary concern is the airflow.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, the original decking in between the planks, you got

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<v Speaker 13>the gaps, and.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, but you imagine if if imagine, if you were

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<v Speaker 8>just to go out and lay decking straight over the

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<v Speaker 8>top ninety degrees to your existing one, every intersection would

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<v Speaker 8>have a space of let's say ninety by ninety where

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<v Speaker 8>the two surfaces would be held together, and you'll get

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<v Speaker 8>moisture trapped in their and you'll get decay. Whereas, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not necessarily promoting this particular product, but from what I

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<v Speaker 8>can see there is it's elevated, which allows for drainage

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<v Speaker 8>and for ventilation. So yeah, it's to be fair, it's

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<v Speaker 8>not a solution that I've ever thought of, but that's

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<v Speaker 8>quite clever. That's out of the box thinking I can't

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<v Speaker 8>see downside to it. I mean, it would be interesting

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<v Speaker 8>to know what when they say synthetic, you know what

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<v Speaker 8>that actually is.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, I don't know, but it just says it takes

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<v Speaker 13>heat and that there's a certain amount of expansion and

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<v Speaker 13>that word.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, it is a timber, it's and the good

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<v Speaker 8>thing is it's FSC. So this is the Forest Stewardship Council.

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<v Speaker 8>This is actually just isn't aside really important if you're

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<v Speaker 8>ever considering buying timber, perhaps from overseas in particular, or

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<v Speaker 8>timber a product that has timber that has sorn and

0:26:09.055 --> 0:26:13.535
<v Speaker 8>sourced overseas. So the Forest Stewardship Council is a worldwide

0:26:13.655 --> 0:26:19.535
<v Speaker 8>organization that you can apply to have your product sort

0:26:19.535 --> 0:26:23.335
<v Speaker 8>of licensed by them or endorsed by them, And in

0:26:23.495 --> 0:26:26.055
<v Speaker 8>order to do so, you need to prove that it's

0:26:26.135 --> 0:26:29.375
<v Speaker 8>been logged in a sustainable manner and that you've met

0:26:29.455 --> 0:26:34.815
<v Speaker 8>certain environmental requirements. So the fact that this item or

0:26:34.855 --> 0:26:40.015
<v Speaker 8>these products actually have FSC registration is good.

0:26:41.735 --> 0:26:42.295
<v Speaker 14>Is a good right?

0:26:42.495 --> 0:26:45.455
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, no, it's good in terms of it's good

0:26:45.575 --> 0:26:50.375
<v Speaker 8>that you know the manufacturer has gone to the Forest

0:26:50.375 --> 0:26:54.415
<v Speaker 8>Stewardship Council to seek their approval for the manner in

0:26:54.455 --> 0:26:57.615
<v Speaker 8>which they harvest the timber, because you know, we've all

0:26:57.695 --> 0:27:02.975
<v Speaker 8>seen pictures from South America and from Southeast Asia where

0:27:03.215 --> 0:27:08.615
<v Speaker 8>you know, indiscriminate logging has destroyed enormous swaths of the planet.

0:27:08.695 --> 0:27:11.455
<v Speaker 8>Right now, you don't want to be buying timber from

0:27:11.575 --> 0:27:13.295
<v Speaker 8>people that collect it in that way. You want to

0:27:13.335 --> 0:27:18.095
<v Speaker 8>be buying timber from companies that do some sort of

0:27:18.215 --> 0:27:21.135
<v Speaker 8>environmental management or they're replanting and that sort of thing,

0:27:21.175 --> 0:27:24.615
<v Speaker 8>and only and those sorts of companies will get this

0:27:24.935 --> 0:27:30.655
<v Speaker 8>FSC registration, which I think is really really important. Yeah, look,

0:27:31.535 --> 0:27:33.015
<v Speaker 8>no reason for me to say you can't do it.

0:27:33.095 --> 0:27:33.895
<v Speaker 8>I think it would work.

0:27:35.255 --> 0:27:36.855
<v Speaker 13>Okay, That's that's all I wanted to know.

0:27:37.175 --> 0:27:39.095
<v Speaker 8>To be fair, it's a solution that I hadn't thought of.

0:27:39.215 --> 0:27:40.775
<v Speaker 8>So I like that as well. And if I steal

0:27:40.815 --> 0:27:45.575
<v Speaker 8>your idea, I'll think of you. Thanks a lot, David,

0:27:45.815 --> 0:27:51.575
<v Speaker 8>you take care. That's great. To be fair, it wouldn't

0:27:51.615 --> 0:27:53.495
<v Speaker 8>be the first idea that I've stolen from this program.

0:27:53.615 --> 0:27:56.095
<v Speaker 8>That is the nature of this program. People offer ideas,

0:27:56.135 --> 0:27:57.455
<v Speaker 8>and every now and then I'll walk away and go

0:27:58.055 --> 0:28:00.295
<v Speaker 8>that's a good one. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

0:28:00.375 --> 0:28:01.775
<v Speaker 8>is the number to call. Will take a short break

0:28:02.055 --> 0:28:03.935
<v Speaker 8>back with philp in just a moment you and new

0:28:04.015 --> 0:28:05.535
<v Speaker 8>talks there'd be The lines are open the number to

0:28:05.575 --> 0:28:09.775
<v Speaker 8>call eight hundre at eighty ten eighty and our expert

0:28:09.855 --> 0:28:13.575
<v Speaker 8>guest Bryce McDermott from Razine Paints will join us in

0:28:13.615 --> 0:28:16.575
<v Speaker 8>the next hour. So if you've got any specific painting questions,

0:28:16.615 --> 0:28:18.735
<v Speaker 8>feel free to text those through right now to nine

0:28:18.815 --> 0:28:21.535
<v Speaker 8>to nine two and Bryce will be with us in

0:28:21.735 --> 0:28:25.015
<v Speaker 8>the next hour. A couple of other texts with regard

0:28:25.055 --> 0:28:27.735
<v Speaker 8>to the retaining walls pete retaining Could it be the

0:28:27.815 --> 0:28:29.855
<v Speaker 8>person who alters the natural layer of the land. Yeah,

0:28:29.895 --> 0:28:32.495
<v Speaker 8>that's another way of looking at it, but it's I

0:28:32.615 --> 0:28:35.695
<v Speaker 8>think the clearer way of looking at in terms of

0:28:35.775 --> 0:28:38.335
<v Speaker 8>who would be liable for a retaining wall and who

0:28:38.375 --> 0:28:40.255
<v Speaker 8>would pay for one if there's not one there already

0:28:40.775 --> 0:28:43.175
<v Speaker 8>is sort of who gets the benefit of it, And

0:28:43.575 --> 0:28:45.455
<v Speaker 8>obviously who gets the benefit of it is the one

0:28:45.495 --> 0:28:48.175
<v Speaker 8>who's going to alter it for their benefit. So again,

0:28:48.255 --> 0:28:50.735
<v Speaker 8>if you're on the top and you want to level

0:28:50.735 --> 0:28:52.735
<v Speaker 8>out part of your section and you're going to build

0:28:52.735 --> 0:28:55.215
<v Speaker 8>a retaining wool, then you're going to pay for it,

0:28:55.335 --> 0:28:57.695
<v Speaker 8>and it's going to be on your side of the boundary.

0:28:58.015 --> 0:29:00.735
<v Speaker 8>Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

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<v Speaker 8>Call Phil A very good morning to you.

0:29:05.735 --> 0:29:11.575
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, look, this might be something for Bryce. I

0:29:11.695 --> 0:29:14.015
<v Speaker 7>just he'll be on later on. But I've got a

0:29:14.055 --> 0:29:18.615
<v Speaker 7>Galvani signed roof yep that I was wanting to get painted.

0:29:18.695 --> 0:29:22.895
<v Speaker 7>But I've been hearing them advertising about sealing a roof

0:29:23.055 --> 0:29:25.695
<v Speaker 7>rather than painting it, and I wasn't too sure what

0:29:25.815 --> 0:29:28.375
<v Speaker 7>that was about, or whether one was better than the other.

0:29:28.975 --> 0:29:33.015
<v Speaker 8>Maybe you could help, Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting thing

0:29:33.095 --> 0:29:35.175
<v Speaker 8>that's kind of a It's obviously a new product and

0:29:35.255 --> 0:29:43.655
<v Speaker 8>a new notion around what do we do to protect roofs? Right? Look,

0:29:43.735 --> 0:29:46.535
<v Speaker 8>I've painted any number of roofs over the years, and

0:29:47.815 --> 0:29:50.215
<v Speaker 8>you know, typically what we would do is clean off

0:29:50.415 --> 0:29:53.735
<v Speaker 8>any rust, do some spot prime, applying the Titian primer,

0:29:53.815 --> 0:29:55.895
<v Speaker 8>and then apply a couple of top coats over the top.

0:29:56.495 --> 0:30:00.335
<v Speaker 8>And without a doubt I know that when I have

0:30:00.535 --> 0:30:02.855
<v Speaker 8>done it, or when other people that I've been involved

0:30:02.855 --> 0:30:05.575
<v Speaker 8>with have have painted roofs, it does protect the roof

0:30:05.695 --> 0:30:09.455
<v Speaker 8>and extend it's life, right, which is what it's all about,

0:30:10.295 --> 0:30:13.055
<v Speaker 8>the notion of sealing it is doing exactly the same thing.

0:30:13.295 --> 0:30:15.655
<v Speaker 8>But I think what they're looking at is the application

0:30:15.775 --> 0:30:18.615
<v Speaker 8>of the product. The final coat might be a little

0:30:18.615 --> 0:30:20.655
<v Speaker 8>bit thicker or would be a little bit thicker, so

0:30:20.735 --> 0:30:26.415
<v Speaker 8>we're talking microns here. Ultimately, this is what I think

0:30:26.455 --> 0:30:29.775
<v Speaker 8>it all comes down to is the preparation. Right. So,

0:30:30.935 --> 0:30:33.815
<v Speaker 8>if you've got an old roof which is in poor condition,

0:30:34.815 --> 0:30:37.135
<v Speaker 8>and you're thinking, I want to extend the life of

0:30:37.255 --> 0:30:41.335
<v Speaker 8>the roof and push back that time that you have

0:30:41.415 --> 0:30:43.895
<v Speaker 8>to spend the money and do the reroof, and you're

0:30:43.895 --> 0:30:45.455
<v Speaker 8>looking at it and you're going, okay, well, look what

0:30:45.535 --> 0:30:48.015
<v Speaker 8>I'll do is I'll get it sealed, for example, and

0:30:48.175 --> 0:30:50.895
<v Speaker 8>that will give me more time. It's still going to

0:30:50.975 --> 0:30:54.655
<v Speaker 8>be about the preparation. So you know, you still need

0:30:54.735 --> 0:30:56.535
<v Speaker 8>to remove the rust, you still need to do the

0:30:56.695 --> 0:30:58.735
<v Speaker 8>treatment of the rust. You still need to have an

0:30:58.735 --> 0:31:01.735
<v Speaker 8>adhesion primer, you need to make sure the surface is

0:31:01.815 --> 0:31:04.895
<v Speaker 8>thoroughly cleaned. And then yes, if you apply a sealer

0:31:04.935 --> 0:31:08.095
<v Speaker 8>coat over there that's of ational thickness, it will in

0:31:08.255 --> 0:31:12.455
<v Speaker 8>my mind, that will give you more time. Yeah, So

0:31:13.015 --> 0:31:16.175
<v Speaker 8>I think it's it's always about preparation, and that would

0:31:16.215 --> 0:31:20.535
<v Speaker 8>be doubly true because you know, particularly if the notion

0:31:20.735 --> 0:31:25.375
<v Speaker 8>is that somehow. You know, a viscous material, a liquid

0:31:25.455 --> 0:31:28.175
<v Speaker 8>material is applied over the top and that will address

0:31:28.255 --> 0:31:31.135
<v Speaker 8>your issues with a gulf sized ball hole in the roof, right,

0:31:32.255 --> 0:31:34.495
<v Speaker 8>you know, I don't I don't think that's reasonable to that.

0:31:36.215 --> 0:31:39.255
<v Speaker 8>But if if she was even I was looking at

0:31:39.295 --> 0:31:41.175
<v Speaker 8>my garage roof. So here's me talking about roofs. But

0:31:41.215 --> 0:31:43.335
<v Speaker 8>I've never painted the garage roof because it was always

0:31:43.375 --> 0:31:46.535
<v Speaker 8>my intention to replace it. It's got you know, rust

0:31:46.615 --> 0:31:48.855
<v Speaker 8>all over the top of it. It's not leaking, but

0:31:49.055 --> 0:31:52.655
<v Speaker 8>eventually it will deteriorate. So you know, if I was

0:31:52.775 --> 0:31:54.695
<v Speaker 8>to paint that, I'd want to make sure that I

0:31:54.895 --> 0:31:57.695
<v Speaker 8>got rid of the surface rust, that I applied some

0:31:57.895 --> 0:32:00.535
<v Speaker 8>rust primer to those areas or rust treatment to it,

0:32:00.935 --> 0:32:03.255
<v Speaker 8>and then the adhesion primer and then the top coats,

0:32:03.255 --> 0:32:05.095
<v Speaker 8>and that would be the same all over the place.

0:32:06.455 --> 0:32:08.975
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because from from what I sort of heard, it

0:32:09.135 --> 0:32:12.295
<v Speaker 7>was it had it was part of it was a

0:32:12.375 --> 0:32:13.255
<v Speaker 7>rubber compound.

0:32:13.375 --> 0:32:16.495
<v Speaker 8>So you know, again it's that it's a viscous material,

0:32:16.775 --> 0:32:18.975
<v Speaker 8>like a thicker material that will go over the top

0:32:19.095 --> 0:32:23.175
<v Speaker 8>and that will work as long as it sticks right,

0:32:23.295 --> 0:32:25.815
<v Speaker 8>as long as it bonds to the surface, And that's

0:32:25.895 --> 0:32:29.295
<v Speaker 8>always about the preparation. So I think if you if

0:32:29.335 --> 0:32:31.935
<v Speaker 8>you were making inquiries about it, the question would be

0:32:32.255 --> 0:32:34.295
<v Speaker 8>how do you do the preparation? How do I know

0:32:34.415 --> 0:32:36.815
<v Speaker 8>that that you know, what are the guarantees that sort

0:32:36.855 --> 0:32:37.055
<v Speaker 8>of thing.

0:32:38.375 --> 0:32:40.815
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I've seen sort of you know, like on an

0:32:40.855 --> 0:32:43.935
<v Speaker 7>old roof that's been painted. When it deteriorates, you get

0:32:44.615 --> 0:32:47.775
<v Speaker 7>the paint will start to flake, but you can usually

0:32:48.495 --> 0:32:50.775
<v Speaker 7>sort of paint over that. And I was thinking, oh, well,

0:32:50.815 --> 0:32:53.615
<v Speaker 7>if that happened with a something that had a rubber

0:32:53.695 --> 0:32:57.415
<v Speaker 7>sort of coaching on it, then that might be you know,

0:32:57.495 --> 0:33:00.415
<v Speaker 7>the roof might have to be replaced. Then you know

0:33:00.535 --> 0:33:03.775
<v Speaker 7>that that would be much too much of a job

0:33:03.895 --> 0:33:06.975
<v Speaker 7>to sort of see it again, to reprepare it. I suppose.

0:33:08.215 --> 0:33:10.295
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think there probably has to be a point

0:33:10.335 --> 0:33:13.295
<v Speaker 8>at which you say, look the substrate, the actual metal

0:33:13.575 --> 0:33:17.135
<v Speaker 8>underneath the roof, it has deterior to such a point

0:33:17.175 --> 0:33:19.615
<v Speaker 8>that no matter how much more material I put over

0:33:19.695 --> 0:33:22.295
<v Speaker 8>the top of it, it's still going to need replacement. Right,

0:33:24.655 --> 0:33:27.255
<v Speaker 8>But then it's amazing how long you can eke things

0:33:27.295 --> 0:33:30.215
<v Speaker 8>out for. So again, there's a property that I look

0:33:30.295 --> 0:33:32.535
<v Speaker 8>after which has got it's only a small roof on

0:33:32.615 --> 0:33:35.375
<v Speaker 8>a little lean to at the back of a bricontile unit.

0:33:35.855 --> 0:33:38.215
<v Speaker 8>It had metal on it. It's got very low fall

0:33:39.015 --> 0:33:41.895
<v Speaker 8>ponds with water. I've put so many coats of various

0:33:42.055 --> 0:33:45.455
<v Speaker 8>liquid membranes over the top, but hey, fingers crossed right now,

0:33:45.615 --> 0:33:47.495
<v Speaker 8>it's still weather type, you know. So all I've been

0:33:47.535 --> 0:33:49.775
<v Speaker 8>able to do is just push back that inevitable date

0:33:50.215 --> 0:33:56.535
<v Speaker 8>that I might have to say it's time to replace it. Yeah, preparation, preparation, preparation.

0:33:57.815 --> 0:33:58.375
<v Speaker 6>Just well, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Suppose one thing, Dad, when we got the new roofine

0:34:02.015 --> 0:34:04.535
<v Speaker 7>it was galvanized then, yes, sold just to let it

0:34:05.095 --> 0:34:08.655
<v Speaker 7>you make use of the of the oxidation protection from

0:34:08.695 --> 0:34:12.175
<v Speaker 7>the galvanizing. And I suppose we've done that but probably

0:34:12.735 --> 0:34:15.055
<v Speaker 7>left it, you know, sort of ten years.

0:34:16.255 --> 0:34:19.015
<v Speaker 8>But this is your the roof. Is it galvanized or

0:34:19.095 --> 0:34:19.855
<v Speaker 8>is it zincaloom?

0:34:21.855 --> 0:34:25.495
<v Speaker 7>Some are zinc aloon and some as galvanized. Right, it

0:34:25.895 --> 0:34:30.455
<v Speaker 7>all looks about the same now. So it's got a

0:34:30.575 --> 0:34:34.295
<v Speaker 7>few russ areas I suppose around some of the screw

0:34:34.375 --> 0:34:39.055
<v Speaker 7>and our hold, but yeah, generally it's not too bad

0:34:39.175 --> 0:34:41.295
<v Speaker 7>that it's probably the time it needs some sort of

0:34:41.375 --> 0:34:45.095
<v Speaker 7>treatment on it, just to let a roof oxidize for

0:34:45.175 --> 0:34:45.775
<v Speaker 7>a few years.

0:34:45.895 --> 0:34:52.615
<v Speaker 8>Is that a Well, that's absolutely fine. Yeah, absolutely, Bearing

0:34:52.695 --> 0:34:57.055
<v Speaker 8>in mind that galvanized roofing iron and zincaloo roofing iron

0:34:57.175 --> 0:35:02.335
<v Speaker 8>are two different products, right, and they perform over time differently.

0:35:02.455 --> 0:35:06.615
<v Speaker 8>So again, as it happens when we did the roof

0:35:06.695 --> 0:35:08.535
<v Speaker 8>on our own home and when I did the extension,

0:35:08.655 --> 0:35:10.855
<v Speaker 8>I just wanted zincaloom, right, I just wanted it to

0:35:10.975 --> 0:35:14.535
<v Speaker 8>be and I've left it and I could leave that

0:35:14.895 --> 0:35:17.015
<v Speaker 8>as it is for the forever, right and until the

0:35:17.095 --> 0:35:21.575
<v Speaker 8>roof needs replacing and shivers. It's already almost twenty years old, right,

0:35:22.335 --> 0:35:25.735
<v Speaker 8>and that's zincaloom, right, and I've got no deterioration. But

0:35:25.855 --> 0:35:29.535
<v Speaker 8>that's because it's zincaloom. Galvanized iron works differently because it's

0:35:29.575 --> 0:35:33.255
<v Speaker 8>a galvanized coating to the iron, and so once that

0:35:34.175 --> 0:35:38.935
<v Speaker 8>the corrosion starts to penetrate through the galvanizing gets into

0:35:38.975 --> 0:35:43.015
<v Speaker 8>the actual iron, that's where you'll get rust happening. Okay, Yeah,

0:35:43.215 --> 0:35:45.095
<v Speaker 8>so worth having a bit of a read around the

0:35:45.135 --> 0:35:48.935
<v Speaker 8>difference between galvanized iron and zincloom. There are two different products.

0:35:49.735 --> 0:35:52.935
<v Speaker 7>Okay, And if you went for the painting, that'll be

0:35:53.015 --> 0:35:54.735
<v Speaker 7>the same thing. Again, make sure it's all.

0:35:54.695 --> 0:36:00.055
<v Speaker 8>Preparation, preparation, preparation, absolutely, yeah, always as shortcuts there. Nice

0:36:00.095 --> 0:36:02.495
<v Speaker 8>of you to call Phil. Thanks, you have a great

0:36:02.535 --> 0:36:05.135
<v Speaker 8>day to take care all of this. It is coming

0:36:05.215 --> 0:36:07.775
<v Speaker 8>up eleven minutes away from seven o'clock. We'll be back

0:36:07.895 --> 0:36:11.215
<v Speaker 8>with Tony after the break. You would talk, it'd be

0:36:11.255 --> 0:36:13.055
<v Speaker 8>we've got news coming up top of the hour at seven.

0:36:13.095 --> 0:36:15.815
<v Speaker 8>But right now, Tony, good morning, Good morning, Peter.

0:36:15.895 --> 0:36:19.095
<v Speaker 15>It's good to talk to you again. And you I

0:36:19.295 --> 0:36:20.935
<v Speaker 15>rang you about a year ago and we had a

0:36:20.975 --> 0:36:25.095
<v Speaker 15>flooded house. It's now being bought out Category three and

0:36:25.815 --> 0:36:28.255
<v Speaker 15>I've bought another property, which is good news. I've got

0:36:28.295 --> 0:36:31.375
<v Speaker 15>to move on with my life. And I had a

0:36:31.415 --> 0:36:35.935
<v Speaker 15>building inspection done, but we've purchased it anyway. But there's

0:36:35.975 --> 0:36:38.615
<v Speaker 15>a concrete landing and steps which goes up to the

0:36:38.655 --> 0:36:44.575
<v Speaker 15>front door, and the underneath concrete landing you can see

0:36:44.695 --> 0:36:50.055
<v Speaker 15>all of the reinforcing has become exposed. And when they

0:36:50.095 --> 0:36:52.695
<v Speaker 15>did a building inspection, they said to me, water has

0:36:52.775 --> 0:36:57.895
<v Speaker 15>been penetrating through the concrete, causing the rust in the steel,

0:36:58.375 --> 0:37:02.615
<v Speaker 15>and then then some of the not much just like

0:37:02.735 --> 0:37:06.175
<v Speaker 15>the surface of the concrete has fallen away. Now he's

0:37:06.335 --> 0:37:09.375
<v Speaker 15>suggestion was that I needed to take all of the paint.

0:37:09.455 --> 0:37:12.375
<v Speaker 15>That's because it's fifty one years oldest house, take all

0:37:12.375 --> 0:37:15.895
<v Speaker 15>the paint off the landing, and then put a he said,

0:37:16.375 --> 0:37:19.735
<v Speaker 15>a good quality celant on and then obviously paint it

0:37:19.815 --> 0:37:22.095
<v Speaker 15>over the top. But I haven't got a clue what

0:37:22.255 --> 0:37:23.935
<v Speaker 15>sort of product put on there.

0:37:24.055 --> 0:37:28.655
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean, look, that's that's reasonably sound advice. So

0:37:29.775 --> 0:37:32.175
<v Speaker 8>how many like how big is the stairs? Is it

0:37:32.295 --> 0:37:33.775
<v Speaker 8>like two steps up to the front.

0:37:33.575 --> 0:37:36.375
<v Speaker 15>Door or I know there's about the steps seem to

0:37:36.455 --> 0:37:38.215
<v Speaker 15>be all right, there's about ten.

0:37:38.175 --> 0:37:40.375
<v Speaker 8>Steps, okay, all right, so that's great.

0:37:40.575 --> 0:37:42.775
<v Speaker 15>And then you've got this landing, which is a normal

0:37:42.855 --> 0:37:46.335
<v Speaker 15>sized concrete landing. When it goes penetrates just into a

0:37:46.455 --> 0:37:49.615
<v Speaker 15>recess for the front door, and it's the area underneath

0:37:49.655 --> 0:37:54.375
<v Speaker 15>where the steels exposed is about about a foot by a.

0:37:54.375 --> 0:38:01.055
<v Speaker 8>Foot, right, okay, all right, Well, look I think treating

0:38:01.215 --> 0:38:03.535
<v Speaker 8>the corrosion would be a good idea as well.

0:38:03.975 --> 0:38:05.255
<v Speaker 15>So what's oh yeah, I'm trying to do that.

0:38:05.455 --> 0:38:09.455
<v Speaker 8>Yeah right, great, okay, so you kind of strip back

0:38:09.455 --> 0:38:14.695
<v Speaker 8>any loose material and then treat the corrosion, so a

0:38:14.775 --> 0:38:17.695
<v Speaker 8>rust converter and then some russ primer. Then you'll need

0:38:17.735 --> 0:38:21.055
<v Speaker 8>to do some patching, so you'll need a sementitious based

0:38:21.135 --> 0:38:24.575
<v Speaker 8>product that you can use with some adhesion to patch

0:38:24.655 --> 0:38:27.695
<v Speaker 8>the area and make the steps and the rises smooth again.

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<v Speaker 15>And then so what is a semious?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>So, like there's there's lots of products. They're almost like

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<v Speaker 8>a powder that you can mix up now that are

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<v Speaker 8>designed for repairing masonry. Right, so if you've got gaps

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<v Speaker 8>and cracks and masonry, you can use different products. Typically

0:38:46.495 --> 0:38:49.495
<v Speaker 8>they're either Seeker or see Mix and so on. Are

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<v Speaker 8>two brand names that do this sort of thing. Then

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<v Speaker 8>so are they painted at the moment or are they

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<v Speaker 8>just exposed painted?

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<v Speaker 15>The steps are not painted, it's the top landings painted

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<v Speaker 15>and it's like the paints cracked. I would say it's

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<v Speaker 15>a good ten years since thenybody painted it at least

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<v Speaker 15>and then obviously water's got in under the paint and

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<v Speaker 15>some of it's blistered.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeap.

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<v Speaker 15>Would I take all the paint off completely, like put

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<v Speaker 15>a grind on it?

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<v Speaker 8>I probably would, because of course, what you know, inevitably

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<v Speaker 8>what happens is the paint deteriorates with the paint surface

0:39:28.975 --> 0:39:34.415
<v Speaker 8>deteriorates and loses its grip. On the concrete below. So

0:39:34.535 --> 0:39:36.735
<v Speaker 8>if you just supply paint over the top of paint

0:39:36.815 --> 0:39:38.095
<v Speaker 8>that might flake off later on.

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<v Speaker 15>Then yeah, that's my thinking.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, saying that if and I've only got thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 8>So if if the paint doesn't come off, let's say,

0:39:48.215 --> 0:39:50.615
<v Speaker 8>if you hit it with a tungsten scraper or some

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<v Speaker 8>coarse sand paper or something like that, then it's probably

0:39:53.615 --> 0:39:56.535
<v Speaker 8>sound enough. But you would need a primer that will

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<v Speaker 8>adhere to the existing paint and also penetrate your new masonry,

0:40:01.015 --> 0:40:04.175
<v Speaker 8>which will be a pigmented seiler. And then you could

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<v Speaker 8>use paving paint over the top of the and then

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<v Speaker 8>I would add some grip to that to make sure

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<v Speaker 8>that it doesn't get slippery. But stay tuned for with Bryce,

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<v Speaker 8>we'll talk about that as well. We are back with

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<v Speaker 8>after the new sport and weather. Remember Painting Expert next.

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<v Speaker 16>Hour, Yvonne wobblock Crown because the charge Jesus cousin lies

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<v Speaker 16>the may.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he sends him to the final school and RDIO.

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<v Speaker 8>Welcome back to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the resident builder on Sunday. We are here

0:41:05.095 --> 0:41:08.295
<v Speaker 8>to talk about your projects, about your house in the

0:41:08.375 --> 0:41:11.495
<v Speaker 8>nicest possible way, of course, I think tasks that you

0:41:11.615 --> 0:41:13.655
<v Speaker 8>might want to do, tasks that you might want to

0:41:13.775 --> 0:41:15.895
<v Speaker 8>get others to do. So we're talking about, you know,

0:41:16.095 --> 0:41:18.895
<v Speaker 8>the sort of the difference between ceiling roof ceiling and

0:41:19.095 --> 0:41:22.215
<v Speaker 8>roof painting. Earlier on, just before the break there, Tony

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<v Speaker 8>with a set of concrete stairs that have had a

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<v Speaker 8>bit of deterioration over time. So again, you know, if

0:41:28.695 --> 0:41:33.695
<v Speaker 8>moisture gets into and I'm sure engineers describe it differently,

0:41:33.775 --> 0:41:37.175
<v Speaker 8>but the common phrase is what we call concrete cancer,

0:41:38.215 --> 0:41:42.255
<v Speaker 8>where moisture has got through the surface of the masonry

0:41:42.255 --> 0:41:46.615
<v Speaker 8>because masonry is always typically slightly porous, and it's the

0:41:46.695 --> 0:41:50.895
<v Speaker 8>moisture has absorbed far enough into the masonry to then

0:41:51.015 --> 0:41:55.415
<v Speaker 8>activate rust in the steel and the steel reinforcing that

0:41:55.615 --> 0:41:58.735
<v Speaker 8>then as it starts to starts to expand slightly and

0:41:58.855 --> 0:42:03.175
<v Speaker 8>it pushes the masonry surface off, and that typically happens

0:42:03.175 --> 0:42:06.695
<v Speaker 8>if the reinforcing is too close to the surface of

0:42:06.935 --> 0:42:10.975
<v Speaker 8>the concrete. So if you're doing you know, foundations, for example,

0:42:11.455 --> 0:42:14.615
<v Speaker 8>then typically the inspector will check that you're reinforcing's not

0:42:14.775 --> 0:42:20.575
<v Speaker 8>sitting on the ground right, especially in foundations for houses

0:42:20.615 --> 0:42:22.055
<v Speaker 8>and something you want to have that I think it's

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<v Speaker 8>typically seventy five millimeters up. You want to make sure

0:42:24.655 --> 0:42:27.575
<v Speaker 8>that you're reinforcing is fifty mili in from the edge

0:42:27.615 --> 0:42:29.495
<v Speaker 8>of the concrete, whether that's in the ground or in

0:42:29.575 --> 0:42:32.535
<v Speaker 8>a wall, etc. Etc. There are rules around this to

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<v Speaker 8>prevent what is exactly has happened at Tony's place, saying

0:42:36.855 --> 0:42:40.095
<v Speaker 8>that not a significant issue for Tony. It's relatively minor.

0:42:40.215 --> 0:42:42.535
<v Speaker 8>But treat the rust to the patch, apply a new

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<v Speaker 8>coat of paint over the top. And the grit that

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<v Speaker 8>I'm talking about is I've done it on concrete stairs

0:42:50.335 --> 0:42:54.055
<v Speaker 8>leading up to entrance ways and landings. Is if you

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<v Speaker 8>just paint concrete, typically it gets quite slippery. So I

0:42:58.015 --> 0:43:01.255
<v Speaker 8>do the adhesion primer. I do a first coat, then

0:43:01.295 --> 0:43:04.935
<v Speaker 8>I mix up some paint and I make it into

0:43:04.975 --> 0:43:08.015
<v Speaker 8>a slurry with some in it, and then I'll paint

0:43:08.095 --> 0:43:10.895
<v Speaker 8>the surface of the stair where you're putting your foot

0:43:11.335 --> 0:43:13.615
<v Speaker 8>with the paint that's got some grit in it, which

0:43:13.735 --> 0:43:16.215
<v Speaker 8>means that it's a little bit more slip resistant, which

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<v Speaker 8>is really important. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 8>the number. Call cricky. People aren't liking the music today,

0:43:26.415 --> 0:43:28.775
<v Speaker 8>Thank goodness. It's not a music show. Eh, it's a

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<v Speaker 8>building show. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number?

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<v Speaker 8>Call quick couple of texts actually before we go to

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<v Speaker 8>the calls, PETE, what house size or what size house

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<v Speaker 8>is permitted without a permit? Zero?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>You can't build a house without a permit right now.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's slightly worrying in the sector that people think

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<v Speaker 8>that what is being talked about is actually law at

0:43:53.255 --> 0:43:56.375
<v Speaker 8>the moment it is not. You need a building consent

0:43:56.495 --> 0:44:02.215
<v Speaker 8>to build a house. End of story. And then another

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<v Speaker 8>question with upgrading a bathroom which has a toilet that

0:44:06.095 --> 0:44:08.775
<v Speaker 8>is entered from the inside, we are unable to find

0:44:08.775 --> 0:44:11.935
<v Speaker 8>a replacement for the same type of system. Any suggestions.

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<v Speaker 8>So typically, if you go back to thinking sort of

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<v Speaker 8>nineteen seventy ish, often toilets will have a e vent

0:44:20.655 --> 0:44:24.735
<v Speaker 8>that comes from the system itself, right, so that the

0:44:26.455 --> 0:44:29.415
<v Speaker 8>basically air is allowed to be drawn into the system

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<v Speaker 8>via a duct or an opening in the side of

0:44:33.695 --> 0:44:36.655
<v Speaker 8>the system that is vented to the outside. Now we

0:44:36.735 --> 0:44:39.655
<v Speaker 8>don't do that anymore. We tend to vent the entire

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<v Speaker 8>drainage system so that individual toilets don't have their own vents.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think the answer to your question there, Dave,

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<v Speaker 8>is that when your plumber comes to replace the toilet,

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<v Speaker 8>they will need to do some work on the actual

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<v Speaker 8>drainage the wastewater system in the house to provide a

0:44:56.495 --> 0:45:00.215
<v Speaker 8>terminal vent to the system in order to ensure that

0:45:00.695 --> 0:45:04.735
<v Speaker 8>when as water is being sucked out of the traps,

0:45:05.255 --> 0:45:07.375
<v Speaker 8>that air is allowed to come in so that the

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<v Speaker 8>water doesn't get sucked out completely. That's what the terminal

0:45:09.975 --> 0:45:12.095
<v Speaker 8>vent does. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 8>the number to call. Lou A very good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 8>Hang on. The fingers don't work. The mouse works, but

0:45:19.615 --> 0:45:22.015
<v Speaker 8>the fingers don't work. Lou Good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, morning preach.

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<v Speaker 15>What can you tell me about bora?

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<v Speaker 11>Mate?

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<v Speaker 8>Bora a small bug typically on the wing about October.

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<v Speaker 13>October.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's fly spray will kills.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, I think I'd go to the hardware store

0:45:43.935 --> 0:45:46.935
<v Speaker 8>and go and get products that are specifically for bora.

0:45:47.135 --> 0:45:48.855
<v Speaker 8>And I mean back in the day, it used to

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<v Speaker 8>be bora bombs that you lit right, Do you remember those?

0:45:53.015 --> 0:45:53.215
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, alright, they don't exist anymore, thankfully, because they can

0:45:57.295 --> 0:46:00.615
<v Speaker 8>be quite explosive. Well, I do have a funny story

0:46:00.655 --> 0:46:02.895
<v Speaker 8>to tell about those, but I probably won't tell it

0:46:03.015 --> 0:46:09.535
<v Speaker 8>on the radio. So you can buy either injected systems now.

0:46:09.655 --> 0:46:12.735
<v Speaker 8>So if you if you're trying to treat individual borer,

0:46:13.095 --> 0:46:15.975
<v Speaker 8>let's say in a piece of furniture, you can go

0:46:16.215 --> 0:46:23.135
<v Speaker 8>with a nozzle and inject borer killer basically into individual openings,

0:46:23.735 --> 0:46:26.615
<v Speaker 8>or you can use a sort of a more extensive treatment,

0:46:26.695 --> 0:46:29.335
<v Speaker 8>which is like an aerosol can that you'll put into

0:46:29.375 --> 0:46:32.415
<v Speaker 8>an enclosed space and just release that and try and

0:46:32.495 --> 0:46:35.255
<v Speaker 8>treat them. But typically listening to RID for all of

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<v Speaker 8>these years, borer are on the wing around September October,

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<v Speaker 8>so possibly a little.

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<v Speaker 11>Bit late, right now, Alkova, Alko, Yeah, good.

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<v Speaker 8>And look, while like I've seen, I've seen some timber

0:46:51.855 --> 0:46:56.575
<v Speaker 8>that has decayed to the point of collapse right from bora,

0:46:56.975 --> 0:47:00.535
<v Speaker 8>but it's it is relatively uncommon, and it's it's not

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<v Speaker 8>as much of an issue now because obviously in the

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<v Speaker 8>last forty odd years we've been using treated timber and

0:47:07.375 --> 0:47:13.095
<v Speaker 8>timber treatment that's designed to prevent insects from making a

0:47:13.135 --> 0:47:15.815
<v Speaker 8>home in it. So it'll it'll be older timber that's

0:47:15.815 --> 0:47:16.255
<v Speaker 8>an issue.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Pete, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, all best you lou, thank you you have a

0:47:21.975 --> 0:47:24.175
<v Speaker 8>great day. All of best. Oh eight hundred and eighty

0:47:24.215 --> 0:47:27.695
<v Speaker 8>ten eighty the number to call. Remember any specific painting

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<v Speaker 8>questions send them through text to nine to ninety two

0:47:31.535 --> 0:47:34.055
<v Speaker 8>and Bryce, our painting expert, will be with us at

0:47:34.135 --> 0:47:37.055
<v Speaker 8>around seven forty five this morning. Cody, you're very good

0:47:37.055 --> 0:47:37.535
<v Speaker 8>morning to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Peter, good morning. I'll describe the layout of

0:47:42.735 --> 0:47:45.535
<v Speaker 3>the house before I ask the question if I made

0:47:45.655 --> 0:47:51.055
<v Speaker 3>sure we have a small guarade, the sidewall of which

0:47:51.655 --> 0:47:54.695
<v Speaker 3>forms this is attached to the sidewall of the house,

0:47:55.735 --> 0:47:58.775
<v Speaker 3>so that the side door of the house as it

0:47:58.935 --> 0:48:04.455
<v Speaker 3>comes down makes the roof of the roof of the garage.

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<v Speaker 3>The side wall of the house was repaired with weather board,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to law how far away from the

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<v Speaker 3>roof of the guarages would be the law border of

0:48:19.335 --> 0:48:20.215
<v Speaker 3>the weather boards.

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<v Speaker 8>So the door has been taken out and replaced with.

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<v Speaker 3>Weatherboards the wall that part of the wall was damaged

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<v Speaker 3>weather boards. Yes, and as you come down it is

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<v Speaker 3>very close to the roof of the small garage which

0:48:44.375 --> 0:48:45.215
<v Speaker 3>is attached to.

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<v Speaker 8>The house, right, okay, yes, And then where that junction

0:48:49.495 --> 0:48:51.895
<v Speaker 8>is between the roof of the garage and the house,

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<v Speaker 8>is there a flashing on top of the roof, and

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<v Speaker 8>then the weatherboards come down and stop above that flashing. Correct, Okay,

0:49:02.255 --> 0:49:05.775
<v Speaker 8>Typically we'd aim to have a gap there of about well,

0:49:06.375 --> 0:49:09.055
<v Speaker 8>it can be as little as twenty to thirty millimeters,

0:49:09.175 --> 0:49:12.015
<v Speaker 8>but it should be something like that. It should be

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<v Speaker 8>a gap of about at least twenty to thirty milimeters

0:49:14.695 --> 0:49:18.095
<v Speaker 8>to allow for airflow, right, because what we don't want

0:49:18.135 --> 0:49:20.455
<v Speaker 8>to do is bring our weather boards down hard on

0:49:20.575 --> 0:49:22.815
<v Speaker 8>top of the flashing and then it traps water in

0:49:22.895 --> 0:49:26.495
<v Speaker 8>there and then it soaks up into the cuttage of

0:49:26.535 --> 0:49:29.455
<v Speaker 8>the weather board sometimes and that will accelerate decay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's in my concern. I'm not a builder, but

0:49:33.535 --> 0:49:38.775
<v Speaker 3>a general common senses that weatherboard is in contact with

0:49:38.935 --> 0:49:42.255
<v Speaker 3>this flashing, it will be in contact with water and

0:49:42.415 --> 0:49:43.215
<v Speaker 3>the course damage.

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<v Speaker 8>No, it shouldn't be so ideally, you know, twenty to

0:49:47.215 --> 0:49:52.615
<v Speaker 8>thirty milimeters will prevent that, but you know even ten

0:49:52.695 --> 0:49:55.415
<v Speaker 8>milimeters will, But anything less than that and you're likely

0:49:55.535 --> 0:49:58.175
<v Speaker 8>to get water that's trapped there and soaks up into

0:49:58.215 --> 0:49:58.615
<v Speaker 8>the timber.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. How can I get a building inspector to come

0:50:05.775 --> 0:50:09.255
<v Speaker 3>and do you report on this? How do I set

0:50:09.295 --> 0:50:09.695
<v Speaker 3>about that?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 8>Was this work done? Did you and did someone come

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<v Speaker 8>and do the work? And now you've realized that it's

0:50:16.655 --> 0:50:19.455
<v Speaker 8>been done like this? Or is this has the is

0:50:19.535 --> 0:50:20.695
<v Speaker 8>this existing work?

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<v Speaker 3>No, this was repaired nine months ago, one year ago.

0:50:26.735 --> 0:50:29.495
<v Speaker 3>But I couldn't have a crosser look right because of

0:50:29.575 --> 0:50:31.095
<v Speaker 3>the risk on the roll.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, fair enough too. I would suggest that you go

0:50:34.375 --> 0:50:38.695
<v Speaker 8>back to the contractor that did the work and you know,

0:50:38.815 --> 0:50:41.015
<v Speaker 8>get them to come back and fix it. And the

0:50:41.135 --> 0:50:46.295
<v Speaker 8>simplest thing might be to simply remove that weather well,

0:50:46.695 --> 0:50:50.895
<v Speaker 8>try and pop that weather board out and cut it

0:50:51.015 --> 0:50:55.055
<v Speaker 8>down then replace it. But that's not always that easy

0:50:55.135 --> 0:50:57.615
<v Speaker 8>to do. If it's only three or four weather boards,

0:50:57.655 --> 0:51:00.015
<v Speaker 8>then maybe the contractor has to strip all of the

0:51:00.095 --> 0:51:03.655
<v Speaker 8>weather boards off and replace them. But certainly having a

0:51:03.775 --> 0:51:08.615
<v Speaker 8>gap in there is not suitable. Having no gap it's

0:51:08.655 --> 0:51:10.015
<v Speaker 8>not suitable, sorry.

0:51:10.415 --> 0:51:15.695
<v Speaker 3>Because because of the slope of the restrove that the

0:51:15.815 --> 0:51:21.575
<v Speaker 3>weatherboard come to rest or stand next to it involt

0:51:21.695 --> 0:51:26.935
<v Speaker 3>several pieces of weatherboard because of the stope. So it

0:51:27.015 --> 0:51:30.695
<v Speaker 3>did not removing just one weather board. It has to

0:51:30.815 --> 0:51:34.655
<v Speaker 3>be a series of weatherboard needs to be removed to

0:51:35.015 --> 0:51:35.655
<v Speaker 3>rectify this.

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<v Speaker 8>See again, what I would say is that you know,

0:51:39.695 --> 0:51:43.055
<v Speaker 8>given that the work was done. You instructed a carpenter,

0:51:43.415 --> 0:51:45.855
<v Speaker 8>a builder to do the work about nine months ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Builders should builders should know what the requirements are. Now.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if the builder can come back and prove

0:51:56.895 --> 0:51:59.615
<v Speaker 8>to you that it meets the requirements of the building

0:51:59.735 --> 0:52:03.495
<v Speaker 8>Code and provide evidence for that, then maybe you need

0:52:03.615 --> 0:52:07.135
<v Speaker 8>to accept that. But I suspect that the per will.

0:52:11.375 --> 0:52:14.815
<v Speaker 8>I suspect that the builder might find it difficult to

0:52:15.015 --> 0:52:22.935
<v Speaker 8>prove that what they've done is compliant. Yeah, I'm just

0:52:23.015 --> 0:52:26.695
<v Speaker 8>looking at a couple of the brand's pages at the

0:52:26.775 --> 0:52:33.935
<v Speaker 8>moment right, So for example, I'm just looking at some

0:52:34.055 --> 0:52:36.495
<v Speaker 8>detail on the brand's website. Now. So Brands is the

0:52:36.615 --> 0:52:42.735
<v Speaker 8>Building Research Association of New Zealand. They provide evidence and

0:52:42.855 --> 0:52:48.415
<v Speaker 8>research to the government around building durability and product performance,

0:52:48.455 --> 0:52:51.255
<v Speaker 8>et cetera, et cetera. So you know, typical detail here

0:52:51.415 --> 0:52:54.535
<v Speaker 8>is that you've got roofing coming up to weatherboard cladding,

0:52:54.855 --> 0:52:58.095
<v Speaker 8>You've got a flashing and then they are saying you

0:52:58.215 --> 0:53:01.495
<v Speaker 8>need a thirty five millimeter gap to the apron flashing.

0:53:01.615 --> 0:53:06.015
<v Speaker 8>So and I would agree with that. So that's I've found.

0:53:06.095 --> 0:53:09.175
<v Speaker 8>The interesting thing is it took me while we were talking,

0:53:09.295 --> 0:53:13.975
<v Speaker 8>took me what fifteen twenty seconds to find that information online.

0:53:14.135 --> 0:53:17.495
<v Speaker 8>So if your builders saying no, no, no, there's no

0:53:17.655 --> 0:53:20.895
<v Speaker 8>rules around it, or I've done it right, then I

0:53:21.015 --> 0:53:23.215
<v Speaker 8>think they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

0:53:24.215 --> 0:53:26.455
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because we had a build a wisiting voice and

0:53:26.455 --> 0:53:29.495
<v Speaker 3>a different purpose covered from about a week ago and

0:53:29.655 --> 0:53:31.815
<v Speaker 3>he put his arms up in horror and said this

0:53:31.895 --> 0:53:33.335
<v Speaker 3>should be thirty five milimeters.

0:53:33.775 --> 0:53:35.935
<v Speaker 8>Well, and that's exactly what I've found on the on

0:53:36.055 --> 0:53:38.895
<v Speaker 8>the brand's website, and it's taken me, you know, a

0:53:39.015 --> 0:53:42.775
<v Speaker 8>minute to find it. So yeah, yeah, I think go

0:53:42.895 --> 0:53:45.695
<v Speaker 8>back to your builder and look if you like, where

0:53:45.735 --> 0:53:51.095
<v Speaker 8>did I I've gone to? If you search flashings brands

0:53:51.455 --> 0:53:54.895
<v Speaker 8>or brand's website and then search for flashings and weatherboards,

0:53:54.935 --> 0:53:59.295
<v Speaker 8>you'll find it print off the pdf. In fact, it's

0:53:59.335 --> 0:54:03.775
<v Speaker 8>in build article one six two. There you go, Build

0:54:03.895 --> 0:54:08.255
<v Speaker 8>article one six two. That information there, the builder comes back,

0:54:08.335 --> 0:54:11.695
<v Speaker 8>you go, here's the documentation. This is what should have

0:54:11.735 --> 0:54:13.735
<v Speaker 8>been done. You haven't done it. I want you to

0:54:13.855 --> 0:54:15.735
<v Speaker 8>do it, and I'm certainly not paying for it. Is

0:54:15.855 --> 0:54:18.095
<v Speaker 8>the way that I would approach it. Cody, thank you

0:54:18.215 --> 0:54:20.455
<v Speaker 8>and good luck with that. It's you know, from a

0:54:20.535 --> 0:54:24.175
<v Speaker 8>trades point of view. It is always disappointing when you

0:54:24.215 --> 0:54:26.775
<v Speaker 8>know we're involved in discussions looking at work that is

0:54:26.935 --> 0:54:33.295
<v Speaker 8>relatively straightforward with that's just done poorly or without lack

0:54:33.335 --> 0:54:37.695
<v Speaker 8>of understanding, And this to me shows a lack of understanding,

0:54:37.895 --> 0:54:40.415
<v Speaker 8>lack of understanding about building science, a lack of understanding

0:54:40.455 --> 0:54:45.255
<v Speaker 8>about you know, basic ways that we build in order

0:54:45.335 --> 0:54:49.055
<v Speaker 8>to prevent to decay. So if you're going to jam

0:54:49.175 --> 0:54:53.295
<v Speaker 8>your weather boards hard down onto your flashing, it's going

0:54:53.335 --> 0:54:56.335
<v Speaker 8>to rot over time. That's why we have a thirty

0:54:56.335 --> 0:54:58.535
<v Speaker 8>five mire gap. It's as simple as that. Oh eight,

0:54:58.535 --> 0:55:00.255
<v Speaker 8>one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

0:55:00.335 --> 0:55:02.855
<v Speaker 8>call if you've got building questions, we'll take those. If

0:55:02.855 --> 0:55:07.135
<v Speaker 8>you've got any specific painting questions. Bryce McDermott, our painting expert,

0:55:07.175 --> 0:55:09.335
<v Speaker 8>will join us at around seven forty five this morning.

0:55:09.415 --> 0:55:12.175
<v Speaker 8>So got some good ones already trickier the better to

0:55:12.295 --> 0:55:14.895
<v Speaker 8>be fair. I quite like the tricky ones. Text them

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<v Speaker 8>Find it at your favorite hardware store or garden retailer.

0:56:24.935 --> 0:56:28.455
<v Speaker 8>B that'd be me. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

0:56:28.575 --> 0:56:33.695
<v Speaker 8>eighty is the number to call a text message. There's

0:56:33.735 --> 0:56:36.215
<v Speaker 8>no excuse for that, whether or detail. This is referring

0:56:36.255 --> 0:56:40.055
<v Speaker 8>to Cody's call a moment ago. Everything can be googled

0:56:40.055 --> 0:56:42.615
<v Speaker 8>to get the correct information that builders should be on

0:56:42.655 --> 0:56:45.015
<v Speaker 8>a blacklist and there needs to be a fine for

0:56:45.175 --> 0:56:50.695
<v Speaker 8>work like that. I'm in I'm a lab oh been laborer.

0:56:51.415 --> 0:56:54.335
<v Speaker 8>I'm a laborer. I presume been doing this thirty five years.

0:56:54.375 --> 0:56:56.175
<v Speaker 8>And if I come across something I don't know, I

0:56:56.255 --> 0:56:58.375
<v Speaker 8>simply google it. Well, you're right, I mean, that's the thing.

0:56:58.455 --> 0:57:01.575
<v Speaker 8>There is so much good information out there. There's also

0:57:01.615 --> 0:57:03.855
<v Speaker 8>some pretty rubbish information out there. But if you go

0:57:03.975 --> 0:57:07.095
<v Speaker 8>to a trusted source like, for example, brands, then you'll

0:57:07.135 --> 0:57:12.055
<v Speaker 8>find information that's been well researched. And again, what I

0:57:12.175 --> 0:57:15.415
<v Speaker 8>do find useful with some of the brand's documents that

0:57:15.455 --> 0:57:17.935
<v Speaker 8>are available. And this isn't just available you know, to

0:57:18.055 --> 0:57:20.735
<v Speaker 8>me as an LBP or anything like this. I searched

0:57:20.735 --> 0:57:24.055
<v Speaker 8>for it online. Found that detail, like I say, within

0:57:24.655 --> 0:57:26.815
<v Speaker 8>forty seconds or fifty seconds or something like that to

0:57:27.095 --> 0:57:31.255
<v Speaker 8>get the detail is that it's public, it's well researched typically,

0:57:32.415 --> 0:57:36.255
<v Speaker 8>and it's available to all of us online. So that

0:57:36.335 --> 0:57:39.615
<v Speaker 8>whole issue around what distance should you have between cladding

0:57:39.655 --> 0:57:42.895
<v Speaker 8>and flashing? There it is, and also some really good

0:57:42.975 --> 0:57:46.575
<v Speaker 8>pictures as well, and it's all available. Oh, eight hundred

0:57:46.615 --> 0:57:48.735
<v Speaker 8>and eighty ten eighty is the number to call if

0:57:48.855 --> 0:57:51.655
<v Speaker 8>you've got a painting question. We're getting some great questions.

0:57:51.695 --> 0:57:54.335
<v Speaker 8>Feel free to text for a couple more. Bryce will

0:57:54.335 --> 0:57:57.375
<v Speaker 8>be joining us at around calld to seven This coord

0:57:57.415 --> 0:57:59.895
<v Speaker 8>to W eight. This morning, Catherine, A very good morning

0:57:59.975 --> 0:58:00.135
<v Speaker 8>to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh good morning Page. My toilet is one of the

0:58:06.095 --> 0:58:09.455
<v Speaker 5>old score ones with the side vents at the side

0:58:09.495 --> 0:58:11.935
<v Speaker 5>of the bowl. And I just got the tail end

0:58:12.095 --> 0:58:16.055
<v Speaker 5>of the conversation you had with that people having trouble

0:58:16.175 --> 0:58:18.935
<v Speaker 5>trying to find a new toilet to six. Could you

0:58:19.095 --> 0:58:23.175
<v Speaker 5>please just run over sation again from they please so

0:58:23.695 --> 0:58:24.695
<v Speaker 5>in your situation.

0:58:25.095 --> 0:58:28.655
<v Speaker 8>And I've seen them, you know, basically in most houses

0:58:28.735 --> 0:58:32.815
<v Speaker 8>before the nineteen seventies, is my guess. I did a

0:58:32.855 --> 0:58:37.335
<v Speaker 8>bathroom in a nineteen sixties bricantile unit a couple of

0:58:37.415 --> 0:58:39.535
<v Speaker 8>years ago, and it had exactly that. It had the

0:58:39.615 --> 0:58:43.695
<v Speaker 8>old you know, wooden system or wood covered system with

0:58:43.815 --> 0:58:46.215
<v Speaker 8>a nice copper insert, and you've got a pipe that

0:58:46.295 --> 0:58:49.375
<v Speaker 8>drops down into the back of the pan, and then

0:58:49.495 --> 0:58:52.175
<v Speaker 8>out of the side of the pan was another vent

0:58:52.535 --> 0:58:56.455
<v Speaker 8>that went into the wall and then outside up the

0:58:56.535 --> 0:58:58.215
<v Speaker 8>wall and out through the roof. I think it was

0:58:58.775 --> 0:59:04.615
<v Speaker 8>so typically today, when we're doing wastewater systems inside a house,

0:59:05.255 --> 0:59:07.655
<v Speaker 8>let's say, you know, we typically we know where the

0:59:07.695 --> 0:59:10.695
<v Speaker 8>connection is to outside, right, so we've got one hundred

0:59:10.735 --> 0:59:13.815
<v Speaker 8>mil wastewater pipe in the ground, might have a gully dish,

0:59:14.015 --> 0:59:16.815
<v Speaker 8>and then you'll have a connections that run through the house.

0:59:17.575 --> 0:59:19.975
<v Speaker 8>One hundred milli line running to a toilet, then a

0:59:20.375 --> 0:59:23.095
<v Speaker 8>maybe a sixty milli line running to a shower. And

0:59:23.415 --> 0:59:27.215
<v Speaker 8>it's like a imagine the roots of a tree. Right,

0:59:27.255 --> 0:59:28.575
<v Speaker 8>you got the tree trunk, and you got all the

0:59:28.615 --> 0:59:32.095
<v Speaker 8>branches that go to the different fittings around the house.

0:59:32.615 --> 0:59:36.735
<v Speaker 8>And typically one of those lines will extend past and

0:59:36.975 --> 0:59:40.135
<v Speaker 8>go up and that one is just open to the air,

0:59:40.855 --> 0:59:45.135
<v Speaker 8>so that when you use the toilet use a hand

0:59:45.175 --> 0:59:48.655
<v Speaker 8>basin that's got a p trap on it, air is

0:59:48.735 --> 0:59:51.495
<v Speaker 8>allowed into the system, which means that the water as

0:59:51.535 --> 0:59:55.135
<v Speaker 8>it's rushing out doesn't suck all of the water out

0:59:55.175 --> 0:59:59.375
<v Speaker 8>of the traps. Right, So every basin that we have

0:59:59.615 --> 1:00:02.575
<v Speaker 8>has a trap below it and that holds water in

1:00:02.695 --> 1:00:05.575
<v Speaker 8>the base of the trap, and that stops the foul

1:00:05.775 --> 1:00:09.055
<v Speaker 8>air that's in the wastewater line from coming out in

1:00:09.135 --> 1:00:11.295
<v Speaker 8>the bathroom. Right, it's the water in the trap that

1:00:11.655 --> 1:00:16.215
<v Speaker 8>stops the foul vapors from coming into the house. So

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<v Speaker 8>without a vent, that water will get sucked out. Now

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<v Speaker 8>that's how we do it today. That's sort of modern plumbing,

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<v Speaker 8>I guess back then with toilets, and that they vented

1:00:27.815 --> 1:00:31.535
<v Speaker 8>them individually. You can't buy, to the best of my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 8>you can't buy toilets anymore that vent individually. So you

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<v Speaker 8>need to make sure that your your wastewater pipework inside

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<v Speaker 8>the house has a terminal vent on it. And that's

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<v Speaker 8>what you've got to talk to your plumber about. And

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<v Speaker 8>that might just mean that where the connection, for example,

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<v Speaker 8>to the toilet is is in your instance, is the

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<v Speaker 8>toilet on a timber floor, a suspended floor, so the

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<v Speaker 8>drainage connection is accessible and it's below there. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>So it might be that a junction is added underneath

1:01:04.975 --> 1:01:08.095
<v Speaker 8>the floor penetrate out through the wall and up the

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<v Speaker 8>outside of the house and that becomes your terminal vent.

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<v Speaker 8>Great something like that. But you know, this is work

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<v Speaker 8>that should be done to ensure that the system works properly.

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<v Speaker 8>And of course this is work that should only be

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<v Speaker 8>done by a registered plumber.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people out there masquerading as plumbers.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. Well again, the great thing with you know, plumbers

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<v Speaker 8>and electricians and gas fitters and drain layers. Is that

1:01:37.695 --> 1:01:42.055
<v Speaker 8>they are all registered trades, right, so anyone who is

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<v Speaker 8>qualified should be able to provide you with their license,

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<v Speaker 8>and all of their information is provided on a database

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<v Speaker 8>which you could search. So again, you know, never allow

1:01:52.855 --> 1:01:56.615
<v Speaker 8>someone who is seemingly masquerading as a plumber or an

1:01:56.655 --> 1:02:00.175
<v Speaker 8>electrician to come and do what is restricted work without

1:02:00.295 --> 1:02:04.255
<v Speaker 8>proving their identity. If you don't know them, well that's it.

1:02:04.415 --> 1:02:08.935
<v Speaker 5>And sometimes even recommend for friends of friends can prove

1:02:09.095 --> 1:02:10.015
<v Speaker 5>fatal as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's always a tricky thing recommending people. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I obviously I get asked every now and then, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and most of the time the people that I recommend

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<v Speaker 8>do a great job, but every now and then we

1:02:21.295 --> 1:02:26.095
<v Speaker 8>all make mistakes, right, So it's a bit anyway, that's

1:02:26.095 --> 1:02:30.015
<v Speaker 8>another matter, but that basically is the system. So if

1:02:30.415 --> 1:02:35.775
<v Speaker 8>your older plumbing system has event on on an individual toilet,

1:02:36.015 --> 1:02:38.015
<v Speaker 8>you just need to adjust the way that the plumbing

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<v Speaker 8>has worked out in the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Great, I kind of thought that, but these days I

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<v Speaker 5>like to triple check everything.

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<v Speaker 8>Put on you too, good on you?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, look you have a nice Christmas?

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you? Okay, and thank you?

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<v Speaker 8>And is it too early to say yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 8>it has feel. I know it's the first of December,

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<v Speaker 8>which is scary in its own way. Yeah, it is scary,

1:03:06.295 --> 1:03:09.175
<v Speaker 8>isn't it first to December already? I just thinking about

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<v Speaker 8>all those jobs that I wrote down on a piece

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<v Speaker 8>of paper that I would get done this year. To

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<v Speaker 8>be fair, I haven't got a lot of them done.

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<v Speaker 8>Other things have gotten away, including making giant hats for plays,

1:03:22.215 --> 1:03:23.975
<v Speaker 8>which worked out quite well. It was quite nice to

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<v Speaker 8>see that, just in a quiet moment, roll out onto

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<v Speaker 8>the stage at the Artea Center. I mentioned last week

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<v Speaker 8>that I had spent quite a happy sort of day

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<v Speaker 8>in a bit making a giant top hat as a

1:03:36.615 --> 1:03:40.735
<v Speaker 8>mad Hatter as in Alice in Wonderland in my workshop

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<v Speaker 8>last week, and then I had to make a few adjustments.

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<v Speaker 8>To be fair, there was some creative differences, so I

1:03:46.655 --> 1:03:49.455
<v Speaker 8>went back on the Monday, made some adjustments to the hat,

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<v Speaker 8>and then yesterday at the Artea Center during National Youth

1:03:53.895 --> 1:03:58.735
<v Speaker 8>Theater's performance of Alice a Wonderland Music Hall, out rolled

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<v Speaker 8>the hat. I'm not giving anything away. I'm just saying

1:04:01.455 --> 1:04:03.655
<v Speaker 8>that if you want to go, there are still tickets

1:04:03.655 --> 1:04:06.375
<v Speaker 8>available today. Two shows today and then that's it for

1:04:06.455 --> 1:04:09.255
<v Speaker 8>the kids, all two hundred and something of them who

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<v Speaker 8>are proud of this musical theater. It was great, actually,

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<v Speaker 8>it was wonderful last night. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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<v Speaker 8>eighty is the number to call. We'll take a break,

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<v Speaker 8>then we'll talk to Neville. If you are at all

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<v Speaker 8>idly curious about the hat that I made, I did

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<v Speaker 8>put some post pictures up on Instagram. Actually, so if

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<v Speaker 8>you just search resident builder on Instagram you'll find them

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<v Speaker 8>there me working away on the giant hat. It's a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of fun. Actually, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 8>the number to call. Neville. Greetings, Hi, Peter, how Neville? Good,

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<v Speaker 8>thank you.

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<v Speaker 17>I've got a house with a two story house scott

1:04:49.015 --> 1:04:53.215
<v Speaker 17>block basement, and then it's got a large window that

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<v Speaker 17>goes right up to the apex, and the window is

1:04:59.775 --> 1:05:04.055
<v Speaker 17>writting out down the bottom right. It's also cancidly that

1:05:04.255 --> 1:05:06.295
<v Speaker 17>over the block work.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes a foot and then you've.

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<v Speaker 17>Got a deck which is coming through the bottom. The

1:05:14.055 --> 1:05:17.255
<v Speaker 17>bearers are coming through and meeting the bearers of the house,

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<v Speaker 17>which has caused all the rotting. Right yep, there's two

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<v Speaker 17>beams going through the roof that is parallel with the ridge.

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<v Speaker 17>Ridge line and they're held up in the middle of

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<v Speaker 17>the living room with two posts and then it goes

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<v Speaker 17>to the other side above the window. So I've had

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<v Speaker 17>Address to a look at about a year ago, and

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<v Speaker 17>he took too long to do anything about your record.

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<v Speaker 17>He couldn't get the engineer to sort of want to

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<v Speaker 17>look at it, so it sort of.

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<v Speaker 8>Sat here and yeah, that's all right. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>pleased that you've engaged a professional, so to speak, because

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it sounds like the scope of the repair

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<v Speaker 8>is slightly beyond just a repair in terms of you've

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<v Speaker 8>now got to move into that remediation phase. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>one of the things that I guess in modern building

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<v Speaker 8>methodology we spend a lot of time focused on is

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<v Speaker 8>moisture ingress for obvious reasons, but also flashing details. And

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<v Speaker 8>we were talking about that earlier with Cody. So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>in I'm assuming from what you're saying that the way

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<v Speaker 8>in which it was constructed in the past, where you've

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<v Speaker 8>got beams that run from inside the building to outside

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<v Speaker 8>of the building, that flashing that detail is really critical.

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<v Speaker 8>Now today you can buy you can either have made

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<v Speaker 8>custom made flashings or you can buy proprietary ones that

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<v Speaker 8>allow you to seal that penetration really well. That stops

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<v Speaker 8>water effectively sitting on top of the beam that can't

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<v Speaker 8>leavers tracking along the top and going straight inside the building,

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<v Speaker 8>which is probably what's happened.

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<v Speaker 17>The thing is that I want to swap out that window.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, bind snyder in.

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<v Speaker 17>Then whether the existing blocks will take that weight, what

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<v Speaker 17>has to be done around supporting a larger sort of

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<v Speaker 17>you know, a full length it's probably about six meters,

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<v Speaker 17>right window.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, that's that's fairly significant. I think, you know, if

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<v Speaker 8>you've got I'm just thinking about work that you can

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<v Speaker 8>do without necessarily requiring a consent, versus work that does

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<v Speaker 8>require a consent. So, for example, if you've got an

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<v Speaker 8>existing window and you want to change that to a door,

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<v Speaker 8>typically you can do that without necessarily requiring a consent

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<v Speaker 8>as long as you don't extend the width of the opening, right,

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<v Speaker 8>So you can take out the framing below, but you

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<v Speaker 8>can't extend the width. As soon as you extend the

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<v Speaker 8>width triggers requirement for building consent. So if that's what

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<v Speaker 8>you're thinking about doing, you'll need to get a consent.

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<v Speaker 8>If you're just taking out a window and putting in

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<v Speaker 8>a set of a sliding door into the existing opening.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess doing that amount of work will also allow

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<v Speaker 8>you to expose those cant leave a jost and assess

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<v Speaker 8>their condition. It sounds like if there is significant decay

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<v Speaker 8>in there, you're probably going to have to replace those,

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<v Speaker 8>which means replacing timber well back inside the building. That's

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<v Speaker 8>then a structural issue, So I think I would get

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<v Speaker 8>specific engineering advice on that. Have it drafted up.

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<v Speaker 17>I think the actual house barers are okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, in terms of bearing on top of the concrete wall,

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<v Speaker 8>I think the concrete wall would probably be okay. Again,

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<v Speaker 8>worth getting specific advice, but typically they're okay. If you

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<v Speaker 8>needed to, you could solid fill some of it, but

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<v Speaker 8>typically they're okay.

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<v Speaker 17>So a slide away then, because you've got high windows

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<v Speaker 17>as well above right the actual you know you've got

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<v Speaker 17>like a V yes of windows.

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<v Speaker 8>Surely if you were looking at replacing it, you would

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<v Speaker 8>replace the entire joinery section. So you take out everything

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<v Speaker 8>that's there, including the V shape or that runs to

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<v Speaker 8>an apex, and replace it all with a new set

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<v Speaker 8>of joinery rather than just trying to keep the original

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<v Speaker 8>windows upstairs more in the upper part and replace the

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<v Speaker 8>slider downstairs, right, I would have thought, because then you know,

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<v Speaker 8>if you're trying to put new joinery into existing joinery effectively,

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<v Speaker 8>then you've also got you know, flashing details that you

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<v Speaker 8>have to address there, because what you don't want is

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<v Speaker 8>that a leak occurs at that junction between you new

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<v Speaker 8>joinery and your older existing joinery above it, and if

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<v Speaker 8>you haven't flashed it properly, that's what will happen over time.

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<v Speaker 17>So this window, like these two beams that are on

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<v Speaker 17>the outside the roof, they go straight up from this

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<v Speaker 17>window and they're sitting on the window sill.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, Okay, look, I think definitely you're going to need

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<v Speaker 8>to get specific design on this because you know, and

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<v Speaker 8>I've seen this before sometimes with older construction, where you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the window itself is offering up support to the structure

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<v Speaker 8>above it, so you'll you'll have a wall that's literally

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<v Speaker 8>resting on you know, the mullions of the existing joinery,

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<v Speaker 8>and when you take that out, you find that actually

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<v Speaker 8>the lintel is insufficient and it's loading up or it

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<v Speaker 8>won't take the load of the roof above it. I

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<v Speaker 8>very much am getting the impression that you're going to

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<v Speaker 8>need to get specific design and and do that. It's

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<v Speaker 8>going to end up being I think a fairly significant

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<v Speaker 8>job by the sound of it. I wish you well

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<v Speaker 8>with all of that, Neville, good luck, but do get

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<v Speaker 8>specific design. Thanks for you call. Radio. We're going to

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<v Speaker 8>take very short break. Do we need to take a

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<v Speaker 8>break now?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah we can. Okay, let's do that. Then we've got

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<v Speaker 8>Bryce who is going to answer your painting question straight

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<v Speaker 8>after the break, Radio, Bryce McDermott, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 8>As always, lovely to have you with us on a

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<v Speaker 8>Sunday morning. How are you, Bryce?

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<v Speaker 14>Not too bad mate?

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<v Speaker 10>Yourself good?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, not too shabby at all. Actually, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 14>That's good.

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<v Speaker 8>Now we talk about painting, but we should actually take

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<v Speaker 8>a step back and just go let's do the safety

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<v Speaker 8>stuff and take a break and just take a moment

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<v Speaker 8>to think about doing the job safely. Give us some tips.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, Well, you know, if you're thinking about painting

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<v Speaker 14>a certain section of your house, you know, you think,

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<v Speaker 14>how am I going to do this? It's going to

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<v Speaker 14>get in the way. What could happen to me if

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<v Speaker 14>I fall all off and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, don't work at home on your own. Make

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<v Speaker 14>sure there's somebody homekeeping an eye on you. Especially if

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<v Speaker 14>you're going to work around where the power into the building,

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<v Speaker 14>you'll have to have that isolated, yes, or even disconnected.

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<v Speaker 14>You can contact your power company and they can do

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<v Speaker 14>that for you. So you don't want to go up

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<v Speaker 14>and smoke on your holidays, So it's important that you

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<v Speaker 14>consider that, you know, it's quite dangerous. You've also got

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<v Speaker 14>to check out your access equipment, you know, and make

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<v Speaker 14>sure that you've got a reasonable equipment to get you

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<v Speaker 14>to what you want to do, you know, not Granddad's

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<v Speaker 14>old ladder that's been sitting in the shed for one

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<v Speaker 14>hundred years or whatever. Ye you know, you've got to

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<v Speaker 14>have good safe equipment, you know, good aluminium ladders, scaffolds

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<v Speaker 14>or what have you, just to get you up there.

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<v Speaker 14>And it's a lot more fun rather than having your

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<v Speaker 14>knees tremble while you're up a rickety ladder or something

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<v Speaker 14>like that.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely. Look, I'll tell a story after the news about,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, watching a guy tumble from a roof and

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<v Speaker 8>it's still in my mind. I can still hear the thud.

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<v Speaker 8>Right to be a graphic and no one wants to

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<v Speaker 8>be in that situation, So you're absolutely right. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>check your leads, make sure that that's safe. If you're

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<v Speaker 8>using power tools outside and they're corded, make sure they're

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<v Speaker 8>running through a proper RCD to ensure that if you

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<v Speaker 8>cut the cord or something like that, then you're going

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<v Speaker 8>to be protected. And you write old ladders, go treat

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<v Speaker 8>yourself to a new one this Christmas. Because I stood

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<v Speaker 8>on one the other day whether the aluminium had decayed

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<v Speaker 8>to the point or deterior to the point where the

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<v Speaker 8>tread gave way under my foot right, and I was

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<v Speaker 8>in the end. I just cut it in half and

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<v Speaker 8>I took it and recycled it. That's the best thing

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<v Speaker 8>for old ladders. Go and get yourself a ladder.

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<v Speaker 14>A lot of people don't realize you can just whip

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<v Speaker 14>the old ladder down to the and they'll give you

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<v Speaker 14>some money for it.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right. In the old days, it was beer money.

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<v Speaker 8>Now it's money for a chai late. Right, let's get

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<v Speaker 8>into a couple of tigs. Fence painting. Hey, I want

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<v Speaker 8>to paint a fence black stain or acrylic paint an

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<v Speaker 8>opinion on it about maybe warping or cost from Stephen

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<v Speaker 8>So beatimber, let's say, and you want to make it black.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, in terms of maintenance, paintings that probably the better option.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, with stains, they do to tear right after

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<v Speaker 14>a couple of years, especially if they're in full sun. Right,

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<v Speaker 14>So you've got to consider whether you want to spend

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<v Speaker 14>you know, every couple of years out there repainting your fence.

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<v Speaker 11>Yep.

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<v Speaker 14>Cost wise, there's probably not much in it. But in

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<v Speaker 14>the long term, paintings probably the better option because you're

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<v Speaker 14>not out there redoing it every couple of years. So

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<v Speaker 14>if you're looking at labor, maybe in terms of redoing it,

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<v Speaker 14>painting is probably the more cost effective option. And there's

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<v Speaker 14>a multitude of colors that you can use, but you

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<v Speaker 14>know black, you know, you can buy a ten lead

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<v Speaker 14>bucket of lumbersider and black and put it on the

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<v Speaker 14>way you go perfect.

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<v Speaker 8>So over being timber. Primer first, then top coat.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I don't know if it's if it's super important,

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<v Speaker 14>but if it's freshly canalized and stuff like that, yes

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<v Speaker 14>I would. I would prime it just to keep the

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<v Speaker 14>cannalizing sort of blocked out from the top coats. If

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<v Speaker 14>it's painted already then, and you know, in sound condition.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, you could just go over the top of it.

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<v Speaker 14>A fence after all. I mean, it's you know, you

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<v Speaker 14>do have to do certain sensibilities and things, but it

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<v Speaker 14>is a fence at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 8>Ye perfect right. Someone would like to stain a front

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<v Speaker 8>door slightly darker without having to stand it back completely.

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<v Speaker 8>It has a varnish on top, it's weathered, hoping for

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<v Speaker 8>a special prime. I think they're hoping for a shortcut,

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<v Speaker 8>but I'm not sure that there is one.

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<v Speaker 14>There probably isn't.

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<v Speaker 9>Really.

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<v Speaker 14>We can tint up our water borne polyurethane and with

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<v Speaker 14>a slight amount of tin by the little bottles tint

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<v Speaker 14>that you can pour into it, but it's not really

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<v Speaker 14>meant for an exterior situation. If you wanted to change

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<v Speaker 14>the color, it's I don't think there's much option but

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<v Speaker 14>to strip it back and start again, especially if it's

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<v Speaker 14>deteriorated a bit. You know, you've got staining on the

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<v Speaker 14>probably on the door, you've got opaque polyurethane, you've got cracks,

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<v Speaker 14>you've got things, all sorts of things. I don't know

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<v Speaker 14>without looking at the person's door, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 14>may be more sensible to strip it off, stand it up,

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<v Speaker 14>stain it to the color you want, and re polyurythane,

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<v Speaker 14>maybe with a marine vanish.

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<v Speaker 8>Right over the top. Brilliant. Now this is an interesting

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<v Speaker 8>one morning. We've had a rat infestation in our ceiling

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<v Speaker 8>last year, which we've now dealt with. We have had

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<v Speaker 8>rat urine stains on some of the ceilings. How can

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<v Speaker 8>we treat those areas in order to repaint successfully?

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<v Speaker 14>From Marie hmm, Well, we do have a product of

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<v Speaker 14>now is called stain lock that you can you can

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<v Speaker 14>put on stains on ceilings or stain on paint in

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<v Speaker 14>general to can't block it out you know, felt pen

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<v Speaker 14>marks and stuff like that. It will absorb the stain,

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<v Speaker 14>but it won't go any further. And then you know

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<v Speaker 14>you could quick try over the top of that and

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<v Speaker 14>proceed with repainting, or you could you know, if it's

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<v Speaker 14>dry and not too bad and things like that, you

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<v Speaker 14>put the good old solvable and sure seal on it

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<v Speaker 14>block it out. But yes, I think sure seel or

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<v Speaker 14>stain lock would be the option.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay. Now, in terms of quela, for example, like if

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<v Speaker 8>you've got a new piece of quila, they're asking how

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<v Speaker 8>long do you leave it before putting a coat on it?

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<v Speaker 8>M And I guess dress as general for all hardwoods.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, because you've got the little the tenons and everything

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<v Speaker 14>running out of it as soon as it gets wet,

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<v Speaker 14>and people like to stop that because it can driple

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<v Speaker 14>over the place. And you know, especially if you've got

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<v Speaker 14>a deck above a patio below, you up all these

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<v Speaker 14>brown stains and nice neat lines everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>M hm.

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<v Speaker 14>Not a great deal you can do about it. Generally,

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<v Speaker 14>you've got to leave timber or timber decks the weather

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<v Speaker 14>for about three months before you can put a stain

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<v Speaker 14>on them, just to let them settle, you know, allow

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<v Speaker 14>the timber to expand and do its business and just

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<v Speaker 14>generally settle in and then you can put the We

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<v Speaker 14>do have a cooiler decking stain that you can put

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<v Speaker 14>on that you know, sort of retains the color of

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<v Speaker 14>the coiler, you know, sort of an orange sort of

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<v Speaker 14>red color. But yeah, I would, you know, there's not

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<v Speaker 14>a great deal you can do about it. I would

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<v Speaker 14>just leave it to weather, and leave it.

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<v Speaker 8>To weather first and then apply it's.

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<v Speaker 14>An issue of it dripping on areas below. Then you know,

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<v Speaker 14>just the if it's just going straight onto the ground.

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<v Speaker 14>It shouldn't be a problem. But then just after three months,

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<v Speaker 14>just you know, give it a code of coiler decking stain.

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<v Speaker 14>It's put the instructions and.

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<v Speaker 17>Away you go.

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<v Speaker 8>Now here's a classic. Recently, been painting skirting boards with

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<v Speaker 8>an acrylic the painter has touched up the lino as well.

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<v Speaker 8>Is there an easy way to get in this case

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<v Speaker 8>acrylic off the lino floor.

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<v Speaker 14>Me misilated spirits will will will soften, and acrylics and

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<v Speaker 14>things like that. Failing that, we do have a proprietary

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<v Speaker 14>paint remover latex paint remover as the Americans call it,

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<v Speaker 14>that will remove acrylic paint off surfaces. So if you

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<v Speaker 14>nip into one of our shops and you can. It

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<v Speaker 14>comes in a spray bottle, and you know that should

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<v Speaker 14>do the trick. You know, you just spread it on,

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<v Speaker 14>leave it for a bit and then wipe it off.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm writing that down because the number of times I've

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<v Speaker 8>had calls from people going, you know, the paint has

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<v Speaker 8>been or I've been painting and I've got, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>splashes of acrylic paint on aluminium jewelery, for example, how

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<v Speaker 8>do I get it off? So this latex paint. It

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<v Speaker 8>might be the solution there.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, but you know, if something's been sitting on the

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<v Speaker 14>aluminum joinal for quite some time, you know it's probably

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<v Speaker 14>not going to do the trick, right might you might

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<v Speaker 14>have to look at some form of solvent like go

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<v Speaker 14>our number twelve center or something which is a good

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<v Speaker 14>general cleaner.

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<v Speaker 8>Sounds good, Bryce, We're right on top of the news. Fantastic,

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you you're a News Talks there'd be welcome back

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<v Speaker 8>to the show. Bryce mcdommott, our painting expert just before

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<v Speaker 8>the news and really appreciate his insights as always. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>just trying to think whether that might be the last

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<v Speaker 8>show with Bryce this year, because suddenly all of those

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<v Speaker 8>deadlines are looming, aren't they. You know, December the first today?

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<v Speaker 8>How many couple more shows? As it happens, I'll carry

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<v Speaker 8>on doing Sundays through the Christmas and New Year break.

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<v Speaker 8>Looking forward to that. Actually, I'll be working here on

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<v Speaker 8>Christmas Day. I'm going to be doing i think eleven

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<v Speaker 8>to one on Christmas Day, so looking forward to that

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<v Speaker 8>as well a couple of other quick painting ones. Just

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<v Speaker 8>before we move back into the building, Can I paint

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<v Speaker 8>the inside of a color steel fence straight away. Yep,

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<v Speaker 8>pretty much wash it down, apply an adhesion primer. So

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<v Speaker 8>there's a very specific razine primer for that that you

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<v Speaker 8>need to use.

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<v Speaker 10>Um.

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<v Speaker 8>And what's the other one that came Ah, remove roof

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<v Speaker 8>paint spray that has drifted onto plastic outdoor chairs. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>wondering whether that latex paint remover which comes in a

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<v Speaker 8>little spray bottle might be the go there. It'll soften

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<v Speaker 8>it up and then allow you to scrape it off,

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<v Speaker 8>depending on how much there is. I have to say

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<v Speaker 8>spray drift from roof painting is a little bit uncommon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>that would have been annoying. I would have imagined eight

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<v Speaker 8>hundred and eighty eighty is that number to call?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Another quick couple of texts that came through. I live

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<v Speaker 8>in christ Church. Can I replace my toilet with a

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<v Speaker 8>composting toilet? I wonder whether the local council might have

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<v Speaker 8>some issues around that in terms of if you were

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<v Speaker 8>in an urban area, I think you would have to

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<v Speaker 8>prove compliance. You'd have to prove that it's not going

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<v Speaker 8>to inadvertently become a nuisance to your neighbors. In the

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<v Speaker 8>same way that something that's sort of come up. I

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<v Speaker 8>know Auckland Council, but probably other councils as well have

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<v Speaker 8>started to introduce sort of a maintenance schedule for septic

1:22:40.935 --> 1:22:45.655
<v Speaker 8>tanks as well within the Auckland city boundaries, which is

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<v Speaker 8>reasonably large. So people are having to get an independent

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<v Speaker 8>assessment and maintenance done of their septic systems. And I

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<v Speaker 8>would imagine the same thing would would apply here if

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<v Speaker 8>you were doing a composting toilet. Great idea, but it's

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<v Speaker 8>going to be a christ Church City Council question. Another

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<v Speaker 8>quick text that came through love the show Thank You

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<v Speaker 8>very Much. I want to repair my old letterbox. The

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<v Speaker 8>wood is old and cracked. Would putty be enough to

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<v Speaker 8>make small repairs to the cracks? The issue sometimes with

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<v Speaker 8>putty is if you use too much of it'll just

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<v Speaker 8>fall out. So for larger cracks, I tend to use

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<v Speaker 8>specific products like repair Care, which is a two part

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<v Speaker 8>adhesive and filler so it'll stick to the area, but

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<v Speaker 8>also you can use it to build up areas. There's

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<v Speaker 8>a couple of similar products out there. The one that

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<v Speaker 8>I happen to use is repair Care. In fact, I've

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<v Speaker 8>got a job for that shortly where power has been undergrounded,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I've got you know, where the large screw

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<v Speaker 8>goes into the facier board of an older house, the

1:23:49.935 --> 1:23:52.775
<v Speaker 8>big hook that they hang the power on, and then

1:23:52.815 --> 1:23:55.375
<v Speaker 8>the junction box with the terminal box that hangs next

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<v Speaker 8>to it, and then of course there's the chorus connection

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<v Speaker 8>that used to go under overhead has now come an underground.

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<v Speaker 8>So I've got to get up there safely. As per

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<v Speaker 8>the discussion with Bryce just for the news around working

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<v Speaker 8>at heights at home. So I've actually got a small

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<v Speaker 8>mobile scaffold. I'll take that to the job. Get up there,

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<v Speaker 8>unscrew these fittings now that they've been deleted, they're no

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<v Speaker 8>longer live. And then you know, I've got like a

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<v Speaker 8>ten twelve millimeter hole where the screw fitting when in

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<v Speaker 8>for the overhead power line. I'll back that out. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 8>i can get that out in one piece, and then

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<v Speaker 8>I'll use something like repair Care there to fill that hole.

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<v Speaker 8>You can also fetch in a new piece of timber,

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<v Speaker 8>but the repair Care should do that job all in

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<v Speaker 8>One oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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<v Speaker 8>the number to call, and Dave a very good morning

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<v Speaker 8>to you. How are you this morning, Dave. Hello, Dave,

1:24:49.575 --> 1:24:55.335
<v Speaker 8>why is that not happening for me? There we go, Dave, greetings, greeting. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 8>technical issues on my side.

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<v Speaker 10>That's all right. I'll just tear a hole of the

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<v Speaker 10>windows replaced with double glazing. Yes, and now that's where

1:25:04.455 --> 1:25:06.695
<v Speaker 10>they come and then cut them on the inside and

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<v Speaker 10>pushed them out and slide.

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<v Speaker 8>The new ones and into timber joinery.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, on my brick tile aluminium house, it's between the brickworks.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, but there must be a frame that the double glazing.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, the frame was built into the window, and I

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<v Speaker 10>think they just slide the new one into place.

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<v Speaker 8>And the frame is timber or aluminium.

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<v Speaker 10>Timber?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, like it was.

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<v Speaker 10>I guess. My question is on the outside they put

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<v Speaker 10>a ceiling along the top, but between the brick and

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<v Speaker 10>aluminium down the sides there is a like a little

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<v Speaker 10>gap where you can see the cavity behind it. Should

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<v Speaker 10>there be ceiling? The old ones didn't look like they

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<v Speaker 10>had it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 8>Typically, because the way that you know brick cavities work

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<v Speaker 8>or brickwork is typically done is you've got your timber framing,

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<v Speaker 8>then you have building wrap. Then you'll have a cavity

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<v Speaker 8>forty millimeters, and then you'll have your brickwork, and you

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<v Speaker 8>tend to put the windows in first. This is from

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<v Speaker 8>new right. You put the windows in first, you flash

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<v Speaker 8>behind the windows onto the timber framing, and then you

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<v Speaker 8>bring your bricks up to it. And typically we don't

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<v Speaker 8>seal a vertical seal a bead of sealant between the

1:26:35.695 --> 1:26:39.415
<v Speaker 8>aluminium joinery or the joinery and the brickwork, because the

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<v Speaker 8>small amount of moisture that might get through there enters

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<v Speaker 8>the cavity and drains out through there. So no, there's

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<v Speaker 8>no requirement there to fill that.

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<v Speaker 10>Gap up helpsolute of breathe. I guess two.

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<v Speaker 8>The wall inside, Yeah, that's certainly part of it. In

1:26:54.295 --> 1:26:56.055
<v Speaker 8>the same way that you know, at the bottom of

1:26:56.135 --> 1:26:59.175
<v Speaker 8>the brickwork, you'll find that there is some joints raked

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<v Speaker 8>out that allows air to enter. And then typically at

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<v Speaker 8>the top the brickwork stops either a little bit shy

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<v Speaker 8>of the feet lining or the whatever cladding there is

1:27:08.895 --> 1:27:11.655
<v Speaker 8>above to allow air to enter at the bottom and

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<v Speaker 8>vent at the top. That's really important.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, so because my neighbor, I followed my neighbor, she

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<v Speaker 10>had it done as well, right, now she said, some

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<v Speaker 10>other work just recently done, and they've talked to her

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<v Speaker 10>into ceiling the whole window, and they've gone around ceiling

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<v Speaker 10>all the windows, all full sides.

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<v Speaker 8>So again depending on you know, like if, for example,

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<v Speaker 8>if it was double brick without a cavity, or if

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<v Speaker 8>it was solid masonry you know that it and the

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<v Speaker 8>window was inserted into the solid masonry, then I'd probably

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<v Speaker 8>apply a seilant. But if it's conventional timber framing, building

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<v Speaker 8>wrap cavity and then brickwork, I wouldn't be too concerned

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<v Speaker 8>as long as Now this is where it gets tricky

1:27:53.135 --> 1:27:58.615
<v Speaker 8>because if you're retrofitting right, so you're you're not taking

1:27:58.695 --> 1:28:03.095
<v Speaker 8>the brickwork away, but you're changing the joinery. Basically, once

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<v Speaker 8>you put the joinery in place, you can't flash behind it, right,

1:28:07.375 --> 1:28:10.975
<v Speaker 8>So if you can't flash behind it, then you try

1:28:11.055 --> 1:28:14.415
<v Speaker 8>and stop water entering the cavity by sealing the front.

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<v Speaker 8>But if in your instance, they haven't changed the frame,

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<v Speaker 8>They've just taken the glazing out, deepened the rebates and

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<v Speaker 8>inserted the double glazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Then.

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<v Speaker 10>The tumbeln cut cut round the window.

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<v Speaker 8>But have they actually taken the window frame that the

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<v Speaker 8>double glaze that sits out.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, and then pushed the new one which has already

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<v Speaker 10>bumped into the aluminium winder.

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<v Speaker 8>Think, yeah, see in that instance there, because you know,

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<v Speaker 8>practically speaking, you can't once it goes in, you can't

1:28:53.055 --> 1:28:56.215
<v Speaker 8>deal with the flashings behind it. And you know, in

1:28:56.735 --> 1:29:00.695
<v Speaker 8>some situations when the joinery goes in, the flashing behind

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<v Speaker 8>it is just some DPC right, some dampproof course that

1:29:06.135 --> 1:29:08.975
<v Speaker 8>is stapled in and tucked in behind there, and that's

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<v Speaker 8>enough to prevent water getting into the gap between your

1:29:12.215 --> 1:29:15.615
<v Speaker 8>timber framing and your jowinery. You can do that from

1:29:15.735 --> 1:29:17.935
<v Speaker 8>you but you can't do that as retrofit. So maybe

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<v Speaker 8>if it is a retrofit in this instance, ceiling around

1:29:21.575 --> 1:29:24.935
<v Speaker 8>the outside would be required. Look, simple thing is to

1:29:25.015 --> 1:29:27.295
<v Speaker 8>go back to the contractor and go is there you know,

1:29:27.535 --> 1:29:31.615
<v Speaker 8>what's your methodology? Have you followed the process that you've

1:29:31.735 --> 1:29:34.615
<v Speaker 8>established that you know is going to work, And if

1:29:34.975 --> 1:29:37.055
<v Speaker 8>that requires selent, then they need to come back and

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<v Speaker 8>do selant. All right, I hope that helps enjoy the

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<v Speaker 8>double glazing. It'll make a big difference. Really, Okay, that's good,

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<v Speaker 8>all right, all the rest if you take care, I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>that's one of the benefits of double glazing, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 8>You know you had some single glazing, then you've got

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<v Speaker 8>double glazing. You know the benefit the day after because

1:30:02.575 --> 1:30:04.335
<v Speaker 8>it's going to be warmer. Oh, weight one hundred and

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<v Speaker 8>eighty ten eighty is the number two. All pete spelt

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<v Speaker 8>the old way like my dad's name. My daughter has

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<v Speaker 8>inherited a nineteen sixties house with asbestos in some of

1:30:20.735 --> 1:30:23.815
<v Speaker 8>the ceilings. Are there other options than removing it? The

1:30:23.935 --> 1:30:26.655
<v Speaker 8>kitchen one is badly stained from cooking, and the lounge

1:30:26.775 --> 1:30:33.735
<v Speaker 8>is looking very sooty from Connie encapsulating. It is okay

1:30:34.215 --> 1:30:38.855
<v Speaker 8>in the sense that with some decent advice. In fact,

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<v Speaker 8>I think Asbestos Awareness Week was last week and there's

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<v Speaker 8>So there's new guidance for homeowners around sort of dealing

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<v Speaker 8>with asbestos in your house. So in this instance here,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, you know, option one would be pull the

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<v Speaker 8>ceilings down, remove the material and replace the ceilings. If

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<v Speaker 8>the other option is to encapture, so essentially to put

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<v Speaker 8>got to be a little bit careful about that and

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<v Speaker 8>then stop and paint that. So those, broadly speaking, are

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<v Speaker 11>Good morning, Peter Lock. I'm looking to project manage my

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<v Speaker 11>house and it comes back to the LPP. Now, the

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<v Speaker 11>individual trades, they will sign off their own work, is

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<v Speaker 11>that correct? Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 11>And the bill and the builder hey will go.

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<v Speaker 17>His part.

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<v Speaker 11>But when do I need an lp B to oversee

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<v Speaker 11>all of the work.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a very good question. No don't, No, you don't

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<v Speaker 8>so in terms of so restricting building work in most

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<v Speaker 8>cases needs to be done or supervised by a licensed

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<v Speaker 8>building practitioner. So what's the scale of your projects? Peter?

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<v Speaker 11>So, we too be droom greennie flattyp.

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<v Speaker 8>With building consent. Yes, okay, all right, So the restricted

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<v Speaker 8>trades that will be involved will be foundations, framing, cladding, roofing, waterproofing,

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<v Speaker 8>those sorts of things. Right, So each of those contractors

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<v Speaker 8>you could manage them, and each of them will provide

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<v Speaker 8>you with either a producer statement or a record of

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<v Speaker 8>works or a memorandum of work that you can then

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<v Speaker 8>provide to counsel when you apply for your Code Compliance Certificate.

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<v Speaker 8>You'r CCC at the end of the job. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 8>you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 11>What I was saying is that, yeah, I thought that

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<v Speaker 11>would be the case, but when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 11>final the builder, hey, will give me his certificate and

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<v Speaker 11>then all I have to do is take them all

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<v Speaker 11>to the council to correct. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So what the builder should do, your licensed building practitioner

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<v Speaker 8>is they will issue you with a record of works

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<v Speaker 8>for all of the restricted building work that they do.

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<v Speaker 8>So their record of works will if they've done the foundations,

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<v Speaker 8>they'll include the foundations, they'll include the framing. So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I've done the framing in accordance with the building Code.

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<v Speaker 8>I've done the cavity system if required, I've done the cladding,

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<v Speaker 8>I've installed the joinery, I've done you know the roof framing.

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<v Speaker 8>I've done the internal bracing. So you know, if you've

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<v Speaker 8>got a jib bracing system and it's a b LH

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<v Speaker 8>one to one point two meters, they'll say, yep, I've

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<v Speaker 8>installed that correctly. That's the restricted building work and all

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<v Speaker 8>of that should be covered off on their record of works.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, good luck with the project. Thank you all

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<v Speaker 8>the very best to you. Bother then, and a quick

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<v Speaker 8>one from you, Bruce, how are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah, good good Figus. Hey, my questions this. I've

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<v Speaker 6>got three houses of just relocated a new site and

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<v Speaker 6>Evian's going well. That's the power which was put down

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<v Speaker 6>the driveway, all went well, and then the electrical inspector

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<v Speaker 6>came out through that last week and said, no, there's

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<v Speaker 6>moisture in the power cable. What the remedy for that?

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<v Speaker 8>Look to be fair, you know, you need to get

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<v Speaker 8>specific advice on that. When they say moisture, is there

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<v Speaker 8>moisture in the cable or in the deducting for the

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<v Speaker 8>cable in the contract?

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<v Speaker 6>He just indicated that that the power's coming from the streets.

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<v Speaker 6>But then there's no power at the top of the

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<v Speaker 6>driveway and there's no power at the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 6>driveway to get this sixty meter driveway, and he said

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<v Speaker 6>that the cable's broken or there's moisture that's stopping the

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<v Speaker 6>movement of power. Okay, but I've got I've got to

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<v Speaker 6>meet I've got my ectrician coming to myrow morning.

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<v Speaker 8>I was going to say, ultimately, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 8>a discussion with the contractor who installed it, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and if they've done it in such a way that

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I know, it seems really scary, and I

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<v Speaker 8>still get scared about this, but apparently it's completely legitimate.

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<v Speaker 8>Is you know, certain types of power cable for Maine

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<v Speaker 8>supply are just laid in the trench, right, They're not

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<v Speaker 8>protected by condurit And I always kind of look at

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<v Speaker 8>that and go, jeepers. I think I'd prefer to have

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<v Speaker 8>mine in the conduit. And then, you know, if contractors

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<v Speaker 8>have not paid attention while they're backfilling and they've used

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<v Speaker 8>the wrong material, then yeah, inadvertently they may well have

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<v Speaker 8>damaged that MAINZ cable, which would be a real big issue,

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<v Speaker 8>especially in terms of identifying where the damage might be,

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<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean, and digging up and redoing

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<v Speaker 8>sixty meters of cable, because sixty meters of cable, you'll

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<v Speaker 8>know that's not cheap.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's right, it's three house.

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<v Speaker 8>It become I wateringly expensive, isn't it? That cable? Yeah? Look,

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's all going to come back on your contractor,

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<v Speaker 8>because it's simple. You've asked them to do a job,

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<v Speaker 8>run power from the road to the house, and then

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<v Speaker 8>they've done it and it's been backfilled. Now they might say, look,

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't do the back it's not my problem. But

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<v Speaker 8>you can argue that later on. Did you do the

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<v Speaker 8>trenching yourself or did the contractors do the trenching?

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<v Speaker 6>Another contract? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, okay, let us know how you get on. I'd

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<v Speaker 8>be fascinated to know what the discussion tomorrow, how that

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<v Speaker 8>got resolved.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I will all right, Okay, Pete appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 8>Bruce, good luck with it. Take care Criche To be fair,

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<v Speaker 8>it's not one that I'm particularly familiar with, righty. Oh,

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