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Speaker 8: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I hope that you've had a good week.
Speaker 8: My name is pepe off Camp, the Resident Builder, and
Speaker 8: this is the Resident Builder on Sunday. So we are
Speaker 8: here to talk about your place, to talk about all
Speaker 8: things building and construction. So as I say, I trust
Speaker 8: that you've had a good week. For those of you, well,
Speaker 8: I think South Island had a fair amount of rain.
Speaker 8: We've certainly had well steady rain, which came as a
Speaker 8: bit of a surprise after what was a tremendous day
Speaker 8: on Friday. It was hot, it was still, it was light,
Speaker 8: and then Saturday has been a bit sort of but
Speaker 8: ho hum, hasn't it And it's still raining this morning,
Speaker 8: which is probably what do there we say anytime rain
Speaker 8: comes and it's not too bad, Oh, it's good for
Speaker 8: the garden. Well it probably has been, so yeah, it
Speaker 8: was raining last night, which meant that no one could drive,
Speaker 8: which means in the motorways were all blocked up and
Speaker 8: trying it. I was just ready to start a couple
Speaker 8: of jobs around the house, and maybe I'm taking the
Speaker 8: weather as an excuse not to crack into a few things.
Speaker 8: So if you're thinking, gosh, my excuse for not getting
Speaker 8: started is I'm not quite sure what to do, then
Speaker 8: the show is for you. I'm not offering up other excuses,
Speaker 8: the other ways of getting out of doing jobs. I'm
Speaker 8: offering to you the opportunity to talk about a project
Speaker 8: that you might have or a dilemma that you might
Speaker 8: be facing around the house, and we can look for
Speaker 8: some suggestions and some solutions to those challenges that we have.
Speaker 8: So the lines are open. The number to call, oh
Speaker 8: eight hundred eighty ten, eighty. You can text, of course,
Speaker 8: because it is you can text through that's nine two
Speaker 8: nine two or ZEDBZB from your mobile phone. And if
Speaker 8: you'd like to send me an email, you're more than welcome.
Speaker 2: To do that.
Speaker 8: It's Pete at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz. So Pete
Speaker 8: at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz. Righty, oh, well, construction
Speaker 8: has been so much in the news recently, lots of
Speaker 8: stuff around social housing networks, community housing providers, which is well,
Speaker 8: it's an important issue. I'm more than happy to talk
Speaker 8: about it on the show this morning. And also, well,
Speaker 8: I guess the most significant thing is today is the
Speaker 8: first of December. So if you start to think about
Speaker 8: getting the house ready for Christmas, if you're starting to
Speaker 8: think about perhaps getting some trade, e's in to get
Speaker 8: some jobs. This is the classic Christmas rush sort of
Speaker 8: hasn't felt like it's really kicked off this year. It's
Speaker 8: been a quiet year, right for most tradespeople. So typically
Speaker 8: that Christmas rush, which might start sort of late October,
Speaker 8: sometimes early October if it's been a good year, doesn't
Speaker 8: really feel that it's there right now. But if you
Speaker 8: do have a project that you'd like to get started
Speaker 8: and get finished more importantly before Christmas. Well, today's the
Speaker 8: first of December. You need to get underway with it.
Speaker 8: So if you'd like to call, oh, eight hundred eighty
Speaker 8: ten eighty is that number to call. We are back
Speaker 8: to sort of normal scheduling today on the program No
Speaker 8: Rugby Commentary. The All Blacks obviously have finished their Northern tour,
Speaker 8: so Rid will join us at as regular time at
Speaker 8: around eight point thirty this morning through till nine o'clock.
Speaker 8: We have Bryce McDermott from Razine Paints. He will be
Speaker 8: available to answer any of your specific painting questions. Let's
Speaker 8: do that at around seven forty five this morning, So
Speaker 8: Bryce at seven forty five this morning. If you've got
Speaker 8: any specific painting questions that you would like to ask
Speaker 8: of Bryce, he will be available, as I say, from
Speaker 8: seven forty five this morning, Oh eight hundred eighty ten addy. Though,
Speaker 8: Now if I'm getting some texts already, that's great. If
Speaker 8: you've got any building questions or want to make some
Speaker 8: comments around building and construction, oh, eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 8: eighty is the number to call. First text was all
Speaker 8: about the song I'm not even going to go there right, yeah,
Speaker 8: good morning, regular caller. However, throat isn't suitable for radio
Speaker 8: this morning. Any ideas on this. I have a unit
Speaker 8: with jib painted unit with a jib painted wall that
Speaker 8: meets a plywood roof and need to sort out a
Speaker 8: flashing to finish it off. At a loss what to
Speaker 8: know what might look good or work well? Kind regards
Speaker 8: from Paul what jumps to mind. So if you've got
Speaker 8: plywood ceiling or a plywood roof and then you've got
Speaker 8: plasterboard running up to it is if it's already done,
Speaker 8: it's a little bit too late. But if I was
Speaker 8: building it from scratch, I would probably look at like
Speaker 8: a little negative detail, a little flashing. There's various different
Speaker 8: jib flashings. They're made by jibs metal flashings that will
Speaker 8: allow you to have like a little negative detail. So
Speaker 8: you'd have the plasterboard running into the wall, then you
Speaker 8: put in a little negative detail and then bring your
Speaker 8: plasterboard or you had to have your plywood rather running
Speaker 8: into the wall, put in a negative detail and stop
Speaker 8: up to that, and you end up with like a
Speaker 8: little ten mil bead or ten mil recess running around
Speaker 8: the perimeter that would look really tight and tidy. I
Speaker 8: guess now, Paul, for you just a scotia and then
Speaker 8: painted in with the wall color. If you pre paint
Speaker 8: the scotia before it goes up, then you don't. Cutting
Speaker 8: in becomes a little bit easier as well, especially when
Speaker 8: you're trying to do paint to plywood, which is probably
Speaker 8: going to be clear finished. Cutting in along there is
Speaker 8: always a bit of a challenge. So if you prepaint
Speaker 8: the scotia, it's much easier to tidy that up later on.
Speaker 8: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
Speaker 8: to call. We'll talk all things building construction, and we'll
Speaker 8: have a crack at a little bit of plumbing as well. Simon,
Speaker 8: good morning to you. Gosh, there is something with the screen, gotcha? Silent? Simon, Hello, Sorry,
Speaker 8: go for it.
Speaker 9: Okay. I have an old brass tap and I removed
Speaker 9: I wanted to replace the washer if they want. It's
Speaker 9: not a rubber one. It's one of those light brown ones.
Speaker 8: Yeah. They almost feel sort of fiberish, don't they.
Speaker 9: That's right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And the old one, I I can't get it off.
Speaker 9: It just seems to be completely.
Speaker 8: As kind of embedded. Yeah, used together and so I.
Speaker 9: Ended up up doing was putting a new one over
Speaker 9: the top of the old one, but it left me
Speaker 9: with very little thread to screw the little nut back
Speaker 9: on the back onto the TAP's the one that closes
Speaker 9: off the water from coming in. So do you know
Speaker 9: how I can get the old washer off?
Speaker 8: I would have thought that to be if it was me,
Speaker 8: I would just attack it with a sharp knife. Right
Speaker 8: in the sense that the washer itself, the fibrous one,
Speaker 8: sits or beds against a plunger, and the plunger is
Speaker 8: made of brass. So in the end, as long as
Speaker 8: you're a little bit delicate, you can't really damage the
Speaker 8: plunger as such. So I just set to it with
Speaker 8: a knife, cut around the perimeter of it and then
Speaker 8: cut it into pieces, cut it off, maybe use a
Speaker 8: wirebrush to clean it up, and then you can seat
Speaker 8: your new washer onto the plunger and have more turns
Speaker 8: on the thread of the nut that goes that holds
Speaker 8: it in place. Yeah, yeah, right, you don't have to
Speaker 8: be I mean, you have to be a little bit delicate,
Speaker 8: but you know it's it's metal versus fiber, so it'll
Speaker 8: be fine.
Speaker 9: Oh okay, Can I ask you another quick question, Do
Speaker 9: you know what a wet back is?
Speaker 8: Yes, So, a wet back typically is a system where
Speaker 8: let's say you have a an argur or you know,
Speaker 8: a type of wood burning fire, you know, either for
Speaker 8: cooking or for heating. And then what people will do
Speaker 8: is they'll set up a system of pipework behind there
Speaker 8: that will have water flowing through it. The water is
Speaker 8: then heated by the appliance, by either the ivan or
Speaker 8: something like that. And what it does is you can
Speaker 8: use it if you've got sufficient storage for all of
Speaker 8: your water supply, or I think most commonly people use
Speaker 8: it to preheat the water going to the cylinder. So
Speaker 8: if so, for example, cold water is twenty two or
Speaker 8: twenty three degrees, typically the maximum temperature we want coming
Speaker 8: out of a cylinder is fifty five degrees. So if
Speaker 8: the water coming in is already at forty degrees, for example,
Speaker 8: because it's passed through the heating system at the back
Speaker 8: of the wet bag, then you're using less energy to
Speaker 8: get the temperature up. That's as I understand, that's how
Speaker 8: the theory, that's how it works. Oh yeah, right, I was.
Speaker 9: Asking is because my plumber was doing some work under
Speaker 9: the house, and there was some kind of flu that
Speaker 9: was under the house that was going out to the side.
Speaker 9: So I've got around the house, I've it's all closed in. Yes,
Speaker 9: it's raised lawboards, and it was connected to one of
Speaker 9: the vents on the underside of the house. So you
Speaker 9: know how you've and you've the in the house when
Speaker 9: you've got raised floor, it's got the concrete around on
Speaker 9: the perimitive the house and all the events. So one
Speaker 9: of the events has this flu attached. And the plumber said, oh,
Speaker 9: that looks as though it might be to do with
Speaker 9: an old wet back, and I was wondering what that was.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, I mean a flu typically flues run vertically
Speaker 8: up right, they don't necessarily run across. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 8: it's quite possible. It's unusual, but it is quite.
Speaker 9: Possible, Okay, Because I was just wondering whether I could
Speaker 9: just remove it.
Speaker 8: Look, I think I would trace it along from outside
Speaker 8: to underneath the house, and if ultimately, if you get
Speaker 8: to the end of it or where something was attached
Speaker 8: to it, and nothing is attached to it, then yes,
Speaker 8: you could remove it. Yeah, what's your existing hot water system,
Speaker 8: what's the heating system.
Speaker 9: Electric ok yeah, low pressure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, so that'll have that doesn't need to be flu,
Speaker 8: but it will have an overflow so that if the
Speaker 8: pressure builds up inside the cylinder, it overflows and the
Speaker 8: water should flow to the outside of the building. Right,
Speaker 8: So obviously that's a different thing. But yeah, the flu. Look,
Speaker 8: if it's if it's not attached to anything you've been
Speaker 8: under there, go ahead and rip it out.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 8: All right, nice to talk to you. Sign all the
Speaker 8: best by your new salk seed B. If you've got
Speaker 8: a question of a building nature, eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 8: ten eighty is that number to call. So one good
Speaker 8: morning to you.
Speaker 10: Morning.
Speaker 8: How are you morning, mate, I'm very well in yourself.
Speaker 3: Good, good.
Speaker 11: Question.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna love with them. I'm gonna go doing some
Speaker 12: work and realize the platting they're still clading is getting
Speaker 12: for us. And I saw some stuff like ants and
Speaker 12: stuff crossing handier and it looks like we need to
Speaker 12: change it. And knowing that lockhood, the builders are quite hesitant. Yeah,
Speaker 12: anything inside outside, So just when I get some some
Speaker 12: ideas though, the people whom I can call or what's it.
Speaker 12: Of course, we're looking at if there's any standard costing.
Speaker 8: When you say that the clouding is starting to deteriorate,
Speaker 8: or you said it's getting poorous, what do you like
Speaker 8: is it? Is it no longer weather type, which would
Speaker 8: be unusual, or is it just an issue around Obviously
Speaker 8: over time, some vermin, you know, some ants and that
Speaker 8: sort of thing I've managed to make their way into.
Speaker 12: It's it's all time issues. A bit of sun and
Speaker 12: what if you are the natural elements working on it,
Speaker 12: I've got to an excellent depend on it. It's still seen,
Speaker 12: but you can see underneath or where the cladding is
Speaker 12: close to the nown you could see again there's a
Speaker 12: lot it's more deterioration there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the mud or.
Speaker 12: Other boots as well.
Speaker 8: And this is one of those things that it's often
Speaker 8: a maintenance issue over time. And I'm guessing you know,
Speaker 8: if it's an older lockwood home, it could be sort
Speaker 8: of forty years old something like that. Yeah, okay, well
Speaker 8: that's forty years ago.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 8: It doesn't feel like forty years ago, but it is.
Speaker 8: It's anyway, long story, and sometimes with some of the
Speaker 8: earlier Lockwoods, it was a metal cladding rather than a
Speaker 8: timber cladding. Is it a metal or timber cladding.
Speaker 12: Its timber cladding.
Speaker 8: It is timber. Okay, Look, I think the great thing
Speaker 8: with lockwood is that they're still around, right, So I
Speaker 8: would suggest that your first call is actually to them
Speaker 8: to go, hey, look, I've got an older building. It's
Speaker 8: still in good condition, but I need to do some work.
Speaker 8: You know, are there some local experts that I could
Speaker 8: call on? And I'm sure that within their network of
Speaker 8: builders and so on, they would still have people who
Speaker 8: are involved, So I think that would be a good
Speaker 8: source of information. Otherwise, typically, if the profile of the
Speaker 8: weather board is still available, or if you needed to
Speaker 8: do enough of it that it warranted the cost of
Speaker 8: paying to have the weatherboard's custom made, just fixing the
Speaker 8: weatherboards that are an issue you could do. I suspect
Speaker 8: that the way in which we did vermin treatment forty
Speaker 8: years ago is quite different to today. So today, if
Speaker 8: we've got a cavity on most cladding, which we do,
Speaker 8: there is a little you know, there are a variety
Speaker 8: of pre made strips that will essentially prevent vermin from
Speaker 8: getting in there, saying that ants would get through, but
Speaker 8: other vermin won't. So it's really about mice and other
Speaker 8: creatures like that to get in and nest in the cladding.
Speaker 8: So you could go through if you really wanted to
Speaker 8: and address that. If the ground level, and we see
Speaker 8: this all the time on buildings. You know, a building
Speaker 8: is built and then over time people build up garden
Speaker 8: beds and raise levels and start to get closer and
Speaker 8: closer to the cladding. Ideally, at a bare minimum, you
Speaker 8: should have about a fifty millimeter gap from the bottom
Speaker 8: of your cladding to any other ground surface, right, particularly
Speaker 8: something like a garden bed. So again, if the garden
Speaker 8: beds have grown and raised in height, strip those back
Speaker 8: and lower those levels. Allow those boards to ventilate. If
Speaker 8: those boards have been rotten become rotten, you could replace
Speaker 8: those boards. But I think as the first step i'd know,
Speaker 8: given that the company is still in existence and will
Speaker 8: be for years to come, I'd get in touch with
Speaker 8: Lockwood directly and just go, hey, look, put me in
Speaker 8: touch with someone. Good luck at work today, Yeah, go yeah,
Speaker 8: thank you all the best, go go go.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 12: You mentioned something about the metal clanning. We've got to reserve,
Speaker 12: to reserve at the back of the house, and more
Speaker 12: than most that's a common problem. The thing is could
Speaker 12: be one of the option if Firings lock with home
Speaker 12: and discuss that, or that's something you wouldn't recommend.
Speaker 8: A look In terms of no, I think I probably.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 8: I'd look at it and go in the end even
Speaker 8: if it, you know, whatever the cost of doing some
Speaker 8: remediation and some repairs, it will be considerably less than
Speaker 8: the cost of a reclad And unless you said to me, look,
Speaker 8: the cladding is an extremely poor condition, I would say
Speaker 8: it doesn't strike me as an economic or environmentally friendly
Speaker 8: solution to rip off a whole bunch of clouding that's
Speaker 8: actually serviceable to replace it with a different type of platting.
Speaker 8: That would be my approach.
Speaker 12: All right, now that makes sense.
Speaker 8: Good of you to call take care, enjoy your work today,
Speaker 8: take care your news, stork seed. But as this is
Speaker 8: quite in contrast to a job that I went to
Speaker 8: look at sort of like a little community project. Hey, look,
Speaker 8: can we do some work on this building to restore
Speaker 8: it and get it more functional for the community, et cetera,
Speaker 8: et cetera. But to be fair, it was in such
Speaker 8: poor condition. You know, there were weather boards that had rotted,
Speaker 8: There were weather boards that had rotted, and fallen off
Speaker 8: or been ripped off by vandals, and then the cladding
Speaker 8: had been or their framing had been exposed for such
Speaker 8: a long period of time that there was extensive rot.
Speaker 8: So it's one of those ones where you go along
Speaker 8: to look at it and people go, oh, can we
Speaker 8: tidy up some weather boards and repaint it? And I'm
Speaker 8: looking at it going, well, probably fifty percent of the
Speaker 8: weather boards on this elevation anyway of the building, on
Speaker 8: one wall of the building are unserviceable. They're either completely
Speaker 8: rotten or they're missing. Then beyond that, I can see
Speaker 8: that in some cases fifty percent of the stud has
Speaker 8: been and is missing, so that's got to then be replaced.
Speaker 8: So what starts as a little job, and I'm sure
Speaker 8: for many of us as home owners, this is familiar territory, right,
Speaker 8: what starts as a little job just suddenly just spirals
Speaker 8: out of control in a sense and becomes a much
Speaker 8: much bigger job involving reframing parts of the building, which
Speaker 8: also removes which means you've got to remove the internal lining.
Speaker 8: So suddenly patching a weatherboard becomes replacing studs, replacing internal lining,
Speaker 8: stopping painting inside new weather boards on the outside. Can
Speaker 8: you get that particular profile, you can see how jobs
Speaker 8: grow sometimes, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 8: the number to call. Will come back straight after the break.
Speaker 8: Thank you to the texter who's come through and just said, Pete,
Speaker 8: there's a really good Facebook group called DIY Lockwood. I
Speaker 8: haven't looked at it. I can't vouch for it, but
Speaker 8: if it's good and the advice is sound, every now
Speaker 8: and then you do have to be a little bit
Speaker 8: cautious about the advice. And some of the stuff you
Speaker 8: see online, isn't it. I mean, that's it. I'm telling
Speaker 8: you nothing you don't know. But sometimes in terms of DIY,
Speaker 8: because look, I watch videos online as well of different
Speaker 8: carpenters and different trades people doing things, and every now
Speaker 8: and then I just kind of go, oh, I hope
Speaker 8: people don't follow that particular piece of advice. But then
Speaker 8: I'm playing in that space as well at the moment.
Speaker 8: So we've got a YouTube channel that's being built and
Speaker 8: a library of topics and discussion and top issues for
Speaker 8: discussion are being loaded into that. So I'd like to
Speaker 8: think that I'm a little bit more considered than some
Speaker 8: in terms of the opinions that I might offer. But
Speaker 8: that's up and running on YouTube as well. You search
Speaker 8: for it under resident builder or Peter wolf Camp. You'll
Speaker 8: find it there. Building up a library there quick text
Speaker 8: as well. Hey, I'm looking at purchasing a property in Wellington.
Speaker 8: The property needs a retaining wall to be fair. If
Speaker 8: you've been to Wellington, you'll understand why most properties have
Speaker 8: retaining walls. The property needs a retaining wall between the properties.
Speaker 8: Who pays for it higher the lower or both regards gilly,
Speaker 8: I would suggest that whoever gets the benefit of it
Speaker 8: pays for it. So if you're on the high side,
Speaker 8: and for example, you want to level out your lawn,
Speaker 8: for example, you know where it's sloping at the moment,
Speaker 8: you're thinking, I'd like to have a nice level lawn,
Speaker 8: So I'm going to put a retaining wall on the
Speaker 8: boundary and that will give me a level lawn. Then
Speaker 8: you will pay for it, and it will need to
Speaker 8: be on your side of the fence. If, for example,
Speaker 8: you're on the lower side of the slope and you're thinking, well, actually,
Speaker 8: if I retained a little bit of that bank, I
Speaker 8: could create a level area in there as well. And
Speaker 8: so it's in your benefit, but you're on the lower side,
Speaker 8: then it would be on your side of the boundary
Speaker 8: and you would need to pay for that as well.
Speaker 8: So retaining walls not like fences in terms of being
Speaker 8: able to seek a contribution from a neighbor. I don't
Speaker 8: think oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
Speaker 8: to call and David, a very good morning to you, A.
Speaker 13: Very good morning, Peter. I've even intrigued with these packets,
Speaker 13: like from trade tested. I was synthetic decking tiles, you
Speaker 13: know kind of I think met a meter squag about
Speaker 13: ten to a bundle. But I was thinking, I've got
Speaker 13: a decking outside decking. It's twenty five mil highness. And
Speaker 13: when the builder put it in, I queried the you know,
Speaker 13: it's about forty years old. Now I queried the thickness
Speaker 13: and he said no, I've got the bearers closer together
Speaker 13: than normal. So I don't know he's a builder or not.
Speaker 13: And anyway, I just thought, well to reinforce that deck
Speaker 13: and make it newer. Are these synthetic? I don't know
Speaker 13: if that plastic wood or all plastic. Have you any
Speaker 13: dealings with them?
Speaker 8: As in a side I did buy four outdoor chairs
Speaker 8: from trade tested just the other day. But that's not
Speaker 8: really what you're asking about. Very nice cheers by the way,
Speaker 8: But okay, so it's synthetic decking tiles one of the
Speaker 8: issues meter square right, okay, oh yeah, I can see
Speaker 8: them here, so.
Speaker 13: We also I asked, you know, I queried it and
Speaker 13: it said yes, can be laid it straight over top
Speaker 13: of wooden decking.
Speaker 8: I just wanted to job, right, Okay, okay, So I'm
Speaker 8: looking at them now. So what they what they are
Speaker 8: is you've got the decking material, but underneath you've got
Speaker 8: like a plastic grid, right, And that was going to
Speaker 8: be my concern is that if you put you know,
Speaker 8: another surface on the top of your pine and there's
Speaker 8: no ability, like, you won't stop the moisture. So moisture
Speaker 8: will get trapped between the two surfaces and that will
Speaker 8: accelerate the decay. So timber is treated in a different
Speaker 8: way depending on what the conditions of its use are.
Speaker 8: So something that is all going to be saturated like
Speaker 8: it's in the ground or so on, gets treated to
Speaker 8: a higher level. Timber that is treated for outdoor use.
Speaker 8: H three typically is designed to get wet but to
Speaker 8: dry out. But if you ended up sandwiching something over
Speaker 8: the top of your existing decking and it wouldn't dry out,
Speaker 8: then it would accelerate the decay. In this instance, here
Speaker 8: the packs of deck tiles actually have a plastic grid
Speaker 8: underneath them, which means that there will be airflow between
Speaker 8: your new surface and your old surface, in which case, yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean that would be my primary concern is the airflow.
Speaker 13: Well, the original decking in between the planks, you got
Speaker 13: the gaps, and.
Speaker 8: Yes, but you imagine if if imagine, if you were
Speaker 8: just to go out and lay decking straight over the
Speaker 8: top ninety degrees to your existing one, every intersection would
Speaker 8: have a space of let's say ninety by ninety where
Speaker 8: the two surfaces would be held together, and you'll get
Speaker 8: moisture trapped in their and you'll get decay. Whereas, I'm
Speaker 8: not necessarily promoting this particular product, but from what I
Speaker 8: can see there is it's elevated, which allows for drainage
Speaker 8: and for ventilation. So yeah, it's to be fair, it's
Speaker 8: not a solution that I've ever thought of, but that's
Speaker 8: quite clever. That's out of the box thinking I can't
Speaker 8: see downside to it. I mean, it would be interesting
Speaker 8: to know what when they say synthetic, you know what
Speaker 8: that actually is.
Speaker 13: Yes, I don't know, but it just says it takes
Speaker 13: heat and that there's a certain amount of expansion and
Speaker 13: that word.
Speaker 8: Oh no, it is a timber, it's and the good
Speaker 8: thing is it's FSC. So this is the Forest Stewardship Council.
Speaker 8: This is actually just isn't aside really important if you're
Speaker 8: ever considering buying timber, perhaps from overseas in particular, or
Speaker 8: timber a product that has timber that has sorn and
Speaker 8: sourced overseas. So the Forest Stewardship Council is a worldwide
Speaker 8: organization that you can apply to have your product sort
Speaker 8: of licensed by them or endorsed by them, And in
Speaker 8: order to do so, you need to prove that it's
Speaker 8: been logged in a sustainable manner and that you've met
Speaker 8: certain environmental requirements. So the fact that this item or
Speaker 8: these products actually have FSC registration is good.
Speaker 14: Is a good right?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, no, it's good in terms of it's good
Speaker 8: that you know the manufacturer has gone to the Forest
Speaker 8: Stewardship Council to seek their approval for the manner in
Speaker 8: which they harvest the timber, because you know, we've all
Speaker 8: seen pictures from South America and from Southeast Asia where
Speaker 8: you know, indiscriminate logging has destroyed enormous swaths of the planet.
Speaker 8: Right now, you don't want to be buying timber from
Speaker 8: people that collect it in that way. You want to
Speaker 8: be buying timber from companies that do some sort of
Speaker 8: environmental management or they're replanting and that sort of thing,
Speaker 8: and only and those sorts of companies will get this
Speaker 8: FSC registration, which I think is really really important. Yeah, look,
Speaker 8: no reason for me to say you can't do it.
Speaker 8: I think it would work.
Speaker 13: Okay, That's that's all I wanted to know.
Speaker 8: To be fair, it's a solution that I hadn't thought of.
Speaker 8: So I like that as well. And if I steal
Speaker 8: your idea, I'll think of you. Thanks a lot, David,
Speaker 8: you take care. That's great. To be fair, it wouldn't
Speaker 8: be the first idea that I've stolen from this program.
Speaker 8: That is the nature of this program. People offer ideas,
Speaker 8: and every now and then I'll walk away and go
Speaker 8: that's a good one. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
Speaker 8: is the number to call. Will take a short break
Speaker 8: back with philp in just a moment you and new
Speaker 8: talks there'd be The lines are open the number to
Speaker 8: call eight hundre at eighty ten eighty and our expert
Speaker 8: guest Bryce McDermott from Razine Paints will join us in
Speaker 8: the next hour. So if you've got any specific painting questions,
Speaker 8: feel free to text those through right now to nine
Speaker 8: to nine two and Bryce will be with us in
Speaker 8: the next hour. A couple of other texts with regard
Speaker 8: to the retaining walls pete retaining Could it be the
Speaker 8: person who alters the natural layer of the land. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's another way of looking at it, but it's I
Speaker 8: think the clearer way of looking at in terms of
Speaker 8: who would be liable for a retaining wall and who
Speaker 8: would pay for one if there's not one there already
Speaker 8: is sort of who gets the benefit of it, And
Speaker 8: obviously who gets the benefit of it is the one
Speaker 8: who's going to alter it for their benefit. So again,
Speaker 8: if you're on the top and you want to level
Speaker 8: out part of your section and you're going to build
Speaker 8: a retaining wool, then you're going to pay for it,
Speaker 8: and it's going to be on your side of the boundary.
Speaker 8: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.
Speaker 8: Call Phil A very good morning to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, look, this might be something for Bryce. I
Speaker 7: just he'll be on later on. But I've got a
Speaker 7: Galvani signed roof yep that I was wanting to get painted.
Speaker 7: But I've been hearing them advertising about sealing a roof
Speaker 7: rather than painting it, and I wasn't too sure what
Speaker 7: that was about, or whether one was better than the other.
Speaker 8: Maybe you could help, Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting thing
Speaker 8: that's kind of a It's obviously a new product and
Speaker 8: a new notion around what do we do to protect roofs? Right? Look,
Speaker 8: I've painted any number of roofs over the years, and
Speaker 8: you know, typically what we would do is clean off
Speaker 8: any rust, do some spot prime, applying the Titian primer,
Speaker 8: and then apply a couple of top coats over the top.
Speaker 8: And without a doubt I know that when I have
Speaker 8: done it, or when other people that I've been involved
Speaker 8: with have have painted roofs, it does protect the roof
Speaker 8: and extend it's life, right, which is what it's all about,
Speaker 8: the notion of sealing it is doing exactly the same thing.
Speaker 8: But I think what they're looking at is the application
Speaker 8: of the product. The final coat might be a little
Speaker 8: bit thicker or would be a little bit thicker, so
Speaker 8: we're talking microns here. Ultimately, this is what I think
Speaker 8: it all comes down to is the preparation. Right. So,
Speaker 8: if you've got an old roof which is in poor condition,
Speaker 8: and you're thinking, I want to extend the life of
Speaker 8: the roof and push back that time that you have
Speaker 8: to spend the money and do the reroof, and you're
Speaker 8: looking at it and you're going, okay, well, look what
Speaker 8: I'll do is I'll get it sealed, for example, and
Speaker 8: that will give me more time. It's still going to
Speaker 8: be about the preparation. So you know, you still need
Speaker 8: to remove the rust, you still need to do the
Speaker 8: treatment of the rust. You still need to have an
Speaker 8: adhesion primer, you need to make sure the surface is
Speaker 8: thoroughly cleaned. And then yes, if you apply a sealer
Speaker 8: coat over there that's of ational thickness, it will in
Speaker 8: my mind, that will give you more time. Yeah, So
Speaker 8: I think it's it's always about preparation, and that would
Speaker 8: be doubly true because you know, particularly if the notion
Speaker 8: is that somehow. You know, a viscous material, a liquid
Speaker 8: material is applied over the top and that will address
Speaker 8: your issues with a gulf sized ball hole in the roof, right,
Speaker 8: you know, I don't I don't think that's reasonable to that.
Speaker 8: But if if she was even I was looking at
Speaker 8: my garage roof. So here's me talking about roofs. But
Speaker 8: I've never painted the garage roof because it was always
Speaker 8: my intention to replace it. It's got you know, rust
Speaker 8: all over the top of it. It's not leaking, but
Speaker 8: eventually it will deteriorate. So you know, if I was
Speaker 8: to paint that, I'd want to make sure that I
Speaker 8: got rid of the surface rust, that I applied some
Speaker 8: rust primer to those areas or rust treatment to it,
Speaker 8: and then the adhesion primer and then the top coats,
Speaker 8: and that would be the same all over the place.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because from from what I sort of heard, it
Speaker 7: was it had it was part of it was a
Speaker 7: rubber compound.
Speaker 8: So you know, again it's that it's a viscous material,
Speaker 8: like a thicker material that will go over the top
Speaker 8: and that will work as long as it sticks right,
Speaker 8: as long as it bonds to the surface, And that's
Speaker 8: always about the preparation. So I think if you if
Speaker 8: you were making inquiries about it, the question would be
Speaker 8: how do you do the preparation? How do I know
Speaker 8: that that you know, what are the guarantees that sort
Speaker 8: of thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've seen sort of you know, like on an
Speaker 7: old roof that's been painted. When it deteriorates, you get
Speaker 7: the paint will start to flake, but you can usually
Speaker 7: sort of paint over that. And I was thinking, oh, well,
Speaker 7: if that happened with a something that had a rubber
Speaker 7: sort of coaching on it, then that might be you know,
Speaker 7: the roof might have to be replaced. Then you know
Speaker 7: that that would be much too much of a job
Speaker 7: to sort of see it again, to reprepare it. I suppose.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there probably has to be a point
Speaker 8: at which you say, look the substrate, the actual metal
Speaker 8: underneath the roof, it has deterior to such a point
Speaker 8: that no matter how much more material I put over
Speaker 8: the top of it, it's still going to need replacement. Right,
Speaker 8: But then it's amazing how long you can eke things
Speaker 8: out for. So again, there's a property that I look
Speaker 8: after which has got it's only a small roof on
Speaker 8: a little lean to at the back of a bricontile unit.
Speaker 8: It had metal on it. It's got very low fall
Speaker 8: ponds with water. I've put so many coats of various
Speaker 8: liquid membranes over the top, but hey, fingers crossed right now,
Speaker 8: it's still weather type, you know. So all I've been
Speaker 8: able to do is just push back that inevitable date
Speaker 8: that I might have to say it's time to replace it. Yeah, preparation, preparation, preparation.
Speaker 6: Just well, I.
Speaker 7: Suppose one thing, Dad, when we got the new roofine
Speaker 7: it was galvanized then, yes, sold just to let it
Speaker 7: you make use of the of the oxidation protection from
Speaker 7: the galvanizing. And I suppose we've done that but probably
Speaker 7: left it, you know, sort of ten years.
Speaker 8: But this is your the roof. Is it galvanized or
Speaker 8: is it zincaloom?
Speaker 7: Some are zinc aloon and some as galvanized. Right, it
Speaker 7: all looks about the same now. So it's got a
Speaker 7: few russ areas I suppose around some of the screw
Speaker 7: and our hold, but yeah, generally it's not too bad
Speaker 7: that it's probably the time it needs some sort of
Speaker 7: treatment on it, just to let a roof oxidize for
Speaker 7: a few years.
Speaker 8: Is that a Well, that's absolutely fine. Yeah, absolutely, Bearing
Speaker 8: in mind that galvanized roofing iron and zincaloo roofing iron
Speaker 8: are two different products, right, and they perform over time differently.
Speaker 8: So again, as it happens when we did the roof
Speaker 8: on our own home and when I did the extension,
Speaker 8: I just wanted zincaloom, right, I just wanted it to
Speaker 8: be and I've left it and I could leave that
Speaker 8: as it is for the forever, right and until the
Speaker 8: roof needs replacing and shivers. It's already almost twenty years old, right,
Speaker 8: and that's zincaloom, right, and I've got no deterioration. But
Speaker 8: that's because it's zincaloom. Galvanized iron works differently because it's
Speaker 8: a galvanized coating to the iron, and so once that
Speaker 8: the corrosion starts to penetrate through the galvanizing gets into
Speaker 8: the actual iron, that's where you'll get rust happening. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 8: so worth having a bit of a read around the
Speaker 8: difference between galvanized iron and zincloom. There are two different products.
Speaker 7: Okay, And if you went for the painting, that'll be
Speaker 7: the same thing. Again, make sure it's all.
Speaker 8: Preparation, preparation, preparation, absolutely, yeah, always as shortcuts there. Nice
Speaker 8: of you to call Phil. Thanks, you have a great
Speaker 8: day to take care all of this. It is coming
Speaker 8: up eleven minutes away from seven o'clock. We'll be back
Speaker 8: with Tony after the break. You would talk, it'd be
Speaker 8: we've got news coming up top of the hour at seven.
Speaker 8: But right now, Tony, good morning, Good morning, Peter.
Speaker 15: It's good to talk to you again. And you I
Speaker 15: rang you about a year ago and we had a
Speaker 15: flooded house. It's now being bought out Category three and
Speaker 15: I've bought another property, which is good news. I've got
Speaker 15: to move on with my life. And I had a
Speaker 15: building inspection done, but we've purchased it anyway. But there's
Speaker 15: a concrete landing and steps which goes up to the
Speaker 15: front door, and the underneath concrete landing you can see
Speaker 15: all of the reinforcing has become exposed. And when they
Speaker 15: did a building inspection, they said to me, water has
Speaker 15: been penetrating through the concrete, causing the rust in the steel,
Speaker 15: and then then some of the not much just like
Speaker 15: the surface of the concrete has fallen away. Now he's
Speaker 15: suggestion was that I needed to take all of the paint.
Speaker 15: That's because it's fifty one years oldest house, take all
Speaker 15: the paint off the landing, and then put a he said,
Speaker 15: a good quality celant on and then obviously paint it
Speaker 15: over the top. But I haven't got a clue what
Speaker 15: sort of product put on there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, that's that's reasonably sound advice. So
Speaker 8: how many like how big is the stairs? Is it
Speaker 8: like two steps up to the front.
Speaker 15: Door or I know there's about the steps seem to
Speaker 15: be all right, there's about ten.
Speaker 8: Steps, okay, all right, so that's great.
Speaker 15: And then you've got this landing, which is a normal
Speaker 15: sized concrete landing. When it goes penetrates just into a
Speaker 15: recess for the front door, and it's the area underneath
Speaker 15: where the steels exposed is about about a foot by a.
Speaker 8: Foot, right, okay, all right, Well, look I think treating
Speaker 8: the corrosion would be a good idea as well.
Speaker 15: So what's oh yeah, I'm trying to do that.
Speaker 8: Yeah right, great, okay, so you kind of strip back
Speaker 8: any loose material and then treat the corrosion, so a
Speaker 8: rust converter and then some russ primer. Then you'll need
Speaker 8: to do some patching, so you'll need a sementitious based
Speaker 8: product that you can use with some adhesion to patch
Speaker 8: the area and make the steps and the rises smooth again.
Speaker 15: And then so what is a semious?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 8: So, like there's there's lots of products. They're almost like
Speaker 8: a powder that you can mix up now that are
Speaker 8: designed for repairing masonry. Right, so if you've got gaps
Speaker 8: and cracks and masonry, you can use different products. Typically
Speaker 8: they're either Seeker or see Mix and so on. Are
Speaker 8: two brand names that do this sort of thing. Then
Speaker 8: so are they painted at the moment or are they
Speaker 8: just exposed painted?
Speaker 15: The steps are not painted, it's the top landings painted
Speaker 15: and it's like the paints cracked. I would say it's
Speaker 15: a good ten years since thenybody painted it at least
Speaker 15: and then obviously water's got in under the paint and
Speaker 15: some of it's blistered.
Speaker 11: Yeap.
Speaker 15: Would I take all the paint off completely, like put
Speaker 15: a grind on it?
Speaker 8: I probably would, because of course, what you know, inevitably
Speaker 8: what happens is the paint deteriorates with the paint surface
Speaker 8: deteriorates and loses its grip. On the concrete below. So
Speaker 8: if you just supply paint over the top of paint
Speaker 8: that might flake off later on.
Speaker 15: Then yeah, that's my thinking.
Speaker 8: Yeah, saying that if and I've only got thirty seconds,
Speaker 8: So if if the paint doesn't come off, let's say,
Speaker 8: if you hit it with a tungsten scraper or some
Speaker 8: coarse sand paper or something like that, then it's probably
Speaker 8: sound enough. But you would need a primer that will
Speaker 8: adhere to the existing paint and also penetrate your new masonry,
Speaker 8: which will be a pigmented seiler. And then you could
Speaker 8: use paving paint over the top of the and then
Speaker 8: I would add some grip to that to make sure
Speaker 8: that it doesn't get slippery. But stay tuned for with Bryce,
Speaker 8: we'll talk about that as well. We are back with
Speaker 8: after the new sport and weather. Remember Painting Expert next.
Speaker 16: Hour, Yvonne wobblock Crown because the charge Jesus cousin lies
Speaker 16: the may.
Speaker 4: Then he sends him to the final school and RDIO.
Speaker 8: Welcome back to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp.
Speaker 8: This is the resident builder on Sunday. We are here
Speaker 8: to talk about your projects, about your house in the
Speaker 8: nicest possible way, of course, I think tasks that you
Speaker 8: might want to do, tasks that you might want to
Speaker 8: get others to do. So we're talking about, you know,
Speaker 8: the sort of the difference between ceiling roof ceiling and
Speaker 8: roof painting. Earlier on, just before the break there, Tony
Speaker 8: with a set of concrete stairs that have had a
Speaker 8: bit of deterioration over time. So again, you know, if
Speaker 8: moisture gets into and I'm sure engineers describe it differently,
Speaker 8: but the common phrase is what we call concrete cancer,
Speaker 8: where moisture has got through the surface of the masonry
Speaker 8: because masonry is always typically slightly porous, and it's the
Speaker 8: moisture has absorbed far enough into the masonry to then
Speaker 8: activate rust in the steel and the steel reinforcing that
Speaker 8: then as it starts to starts to expand slightly and
Speaker 8: it pushes the masonry surface off, and that typically happens
Speaker 8: if the reinforcing is too close to the surface of
Speaker 8: the concrete. So if you're doing you know, foundations, for example,
Speaker 8: then typically the inspector will check that you're reinforcing's not
Speaker 8: sitting on the ground right, especially in foundations for houses
Speaker 8: and something you want to have that I think it's
Speaker 8: typically seventy five millimeters up. You want to make sure
Speaker 8: that you're reinforcing is fifty mili in from the edge
Speaker 8: of the concrete, whether that's in the ground or in
Speaker 8: a wall, etc. Etc. There are rules around this to
Speaker 8: prevent what is exactly has happened at Tony's place, saying
Speaker 8: that not a significant issue for Tony. It's relatively minor.
Speaker 8: But treat the rust to the patch, apply a new
Speaker 8: coat of paint over the top. And the grit that
Speaker 8: I'm talking about is I've done it on concrete stairs
Speaker 8: leading up to entrance ways and landings. Is if you
Speaker 8: just paint concrete, typically it gets quite slippery. So I
Speaker 8: do the adhesion primer. I do a first coat, then
Speaker 8: I mix up some paint and I make it into
Speaker 8: a slurry with some in it, and then I'll paint
Speaker 8: the surface of the stair where you're putting your foot
Speaker 8: with the paint that's got some grit in it, which
Speaker 8: means that it's a little bit more slip resistant, which
Speaker 8: is really important. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 8: the number. Call cricky. People aren't liking the music today,
Speaker 8: Thank goodness. It's not a music show. Eh, it's a
Speaker 8: building show. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number?
Speaker 8: Call quick couple of texts actually before we go to
Speaker 8: the calls, PETE, what house size or what size house
Speaker 8: is permitted without a permit? Zero?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 8: You can't build a house without a permit right now.
Speaker 8: And it's slightly worrying in the sector that people think
Speaker 8: that what is being talked about is actually law at
Speaker 8: the moment it is not. You need a building consent
Speaker 8: to build a house. End of story. And then another
Speaker 8: question with upgrading a bathroom which has a toilet that
Speaker 8: is entered from the inside, we are unable to find
Speaker 8: a replacement for the same type of system. Any suggestions.
Speaker 8: So typically, if you go back to thinking sort of
Speaker 8: nineteen seventy ish, often toilets will have a e vent
Speaker 8: that comes from the system itself, right, so that the
Speaker 8: basically air is allowed to be drawn into the system
Speaker 8: via a duct or an opening in the side of
Speaker 8: the system that is vented to the outside. Now we
Speaker 8: don't do that anymore. We tend to vent the entire
Speaker 8: drainage system so that individual toilets don't have their own vents.
Speaker 8: So I think the answer to your question there, Dave,
Speaker 8: is that when your plumber comes to replace the toilet,
Speaker 8: they will need to do some work on the actual
Speaker 8: drainage the wastewater system in the house to provide a
Speaker 8: terminal vent to the system in order to ensure that
Speaker 8: when as water is being sucked out of the traps,
Speaker 8: that air is allowed to come in so that the
Speaker 8: water doesn't get sucked out completely. That's what the terminal
Speaker 8: vent does. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 8: the number to call. Lou A very good morning to you.
Speaker 8: Hang on. The fingers don't work. The mouse works, but
Speaker 8: the fingers don't work. Lou Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 7: Good morning, morning preach.
Speaker 15: What can you tell me about bora?
Speaker 11: Mate?
Speaker 8: Bora a small bug typically on the wing about October.
Speaker 13: October.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's fly spray will kills.
Speaker 8: Oh no, I think I'd go to the hardware store
Speaker 8: and go and get products that are specifically for bora.
Speaker 8: And I mean back in the day, it used to
Speaker 8: be bora bombs that you lit right, Do you remember those?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, alright, they don't exist anymore, thankfully, because they can
Speaker 8: be quite explosive. Well, I do have a funny story
Speaker 8: to tell about those, but I probably won't tell it
Speaker 8: on the radio. So you can buy either injected systems now.
Speaker 8: So if you if you're trying to treat individual borer,
Speaker 8: let's say in a piece of furniture, you can go
Speaker 8: with a nozzle and inject borer killer basically into individual openings,
Speaker 8: or you can use a sort of a more extensive treatment,
Speaker 8: which is like an aerosol can that you'll put into
Speaker 8: an enclosed space and just release that and try and
Speaker 8: treat them. But typically listening to RID for all of
Speaker 8: these years, borer are on the wing around September October,
Speaker 8: so possibly a little.
Speaker 11: Bit late, right now, Alkova, Alko, Yeah, good.
Speaker 8: And look, while like I've seen, I've seen some timber
Speaker 8: that has decayed to the point of collapse right from bora,
Speaker 8: but it's it is relatively uncommon, and it's it's not
Speaker 8: as much of an issue now because obviously in the
Speaker 8: last forty odd years we've been using treated timber and
Speaker 8: timber treatment that's designed to prevent insects from making a
Speaker 8: home in it. So it'll it'll be older timber that's
Speaker 8: an issue.
Speaker 6: Okay, Pete, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Okay, all best you lou, thank you you have a
Speaker 8: great day. All of best. Oh eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 8: ten eighty the number to call. Remember any specific painting
Speaker 8: questions send them through text to nine to ninety two
Speaker 8: and Bryce, our painting expert, will be with us at
Speaker 8: around seven forty five this morning. Cody, you're very good
Speaker 8: morning to you.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Peter, good morning. I'll describe the layout of
Speaker 3: the house before I ask the question if I made
Speaker 3: sure we have a small guarade, the sidewall of which
Speaker 3: forms this is attached to the sidewall of the house,
Speaker 3: so that the side door of the house as it
Speaker 3: comes down makes the roof of the roof of the garage.
Speaker 3: The side wall of the house was repaired with weather board,
Speaker 3: and I want to law how far away from the
Speaker 3: roof of the guarages would be the law border of
Speaker 3: the weather boards.
Speaker 8: So the door has been taken out and replaced with.
Speaker 3: Weatherboards the wall that part of the wall was damaged
Speaker 3: weather boards. Yes, and as you come down it is
Speaker 3: very close to the roof of the small garage which
Speaker 3: is attached to.
Speaker 8: The house, right, okay, yes, And then where that junction
Speaker 8: is between the roof of the garage and the house,
Speaker 8: is there a flashing on top of the roof, and
Speaker 8: then the weatherboards come down and stop above that flashing. Correct, Okay,
Speaker 8: Typically we'd aim to have a gap there of about well,
Speaker 8: it can be as little as twenty to thirty millimeters,
Speaker 8: but it should be something like that. It should be
Speaker 8: a gap of about at least twenty to thirty milimeters
Speaker 8: to allow for airflow, right, because what we don't want
Speaker 8: to do is bring our weather boards down hard on
Speaker 8: top of the flashing and then it traps water in
Speaker 8: there and then it soaks up into the cuttage of
Speaker 8: the weather board sometimes and that will accelerate decay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in my concern. I'm not a builder, but
Speaker 3: a general common senses that weatherboard is in contact with
Speaker 3: this flashing, it will be in contact with water and
Speaker 3: the course damage.
Speaker 8: No, it shouldn't be so ideally, you know, twenty to
Speaker 8: thirty milimeters will prevent that, but you know even ten
Speaker 8: milimeters will, But anything less than that and you're likely
Speaker 8: to get water that's trapped there and soaks up into
Speaker 8: the timber.
Speaker 3: Yeah. How can I get a building inspector to come
Speaker 3: and do you report on this? How do I set
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 8: Was this work done? Did you and did someone come
Speaker 8: and do the work? And now you've realized that it's
Speaker 8: been done like this? Or is this has the is
Speaker 8: this existing work?
Speaker 3: No, this was repaired nine months ago, one year ago.
Speaker 3: But I couldn't have a crosser look right because of
Speaker 3: the risk on the roll.
Speaker 8: Yeah, fair enough too. I would suggest that you go
Speaker 8: back to the contractor that did the work and you know,
Speaker 8: get them to come back and fix it. And the
Speaker 8: simplest thing might be to simply remove that weather well,
Speaker 8: try and pop that weather board out and cut it
Speaker 8: down then replace it. But that's not always that easy
Speaker 8: to do. If it's only three or four weather boards,
Speaker 8: then maybe the contractor has to strip all of the
Speaker 8: weather boards off and replace them. But certainly having a
Speaker 8: gap in there is not suitable. Having no gap it's
Speaker 8: not suitable, sorry.
Speaker 3: Because because of the slope of the restrove that the
Speaker 3: weatherboard come to rest or stand next to it involt
Speaker 3: several pieces of weatherboard because of the stope. So it
Speaker 3: did not removing just one weather board. It has to
Speaker 3: be a series of weatherboard needs to be removed to
Speaker 3: rectify this.
Speaker 8: See again, what I would say is that you know,
Speaker 8: given that the work was done. You instructed a carpenter,
Speaker 8: a builder to do the work about nine months ago.
Speaker 8: Builders should builders should know what the requirements are. Now.
Speaker 8: You know, if the builder can come back and prove
Speaker 8: to you that it meets the requirements of the building
Speaker 8: Code and provide evidence for that, then maybe you need
Speaker 8: to accept that. But I suspect that the per will.
Speaker 8: I suspect that the builder might find it difficult to
Speaker 8: prove that what they've done is compliant. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 8: looking at a couple of the brand's pages at the
Speaker 8: moment right, So for example, I'm just looking at some
Speaker 8: detail on the brand's website. Now. So Brands is the
Speaker 8: Building Research Association of New Zealand. They provide evidence and
Speaker 8: research to the government around building durability and product performance,
Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. So you know, typical detail here
Speaker 8: is that you've got roofing coming up to weatherboard cladding,
Speaker 8: You've got a flashing and then they are saying you
Speaker 8: need a thirty five millimeter gap to the apron flashing.
Speaker 8: So and I would agree with that. So that's I've found.
Speaker 8: The interesting thing is it took me while we were talking,
Speaker 8: took me what fifteen twenty seconds to find that information online.
Speaker 8: So if your builders saying no, no, no, there's no
Speaker 8: rules around it, or I've done it right, then I
Speaker 8: think they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we had a build a wisiting voice and
Speaker 3: a different purpose covered from about a week ago and
Speaker 3: he put his arms up in horror and said this
Speaker 3: should be thirty five milimeters.
Speaker 8: Well, and that's exactly what I've found on the on
Speaker 8: the brand's website, and it's taken me, you know, a
Speaker 8: minute to find it. So yeah, yeah, I think go
Speaker 8: back to your builder and look if you like, where
Speaker 8: did I I've gone to? If you search flashings brands
Speaker 8: or brand's website and then search for flashings and weatherboards,
Speaker 8: you'll find it print off the pdf. In fact, it's
Speaker 8: in build article one six two. There you go, Build
Speaker 8: article one six two. That information there, the builder comes back,
Speaker 8: you go, here's the documentation. This is what should have
Speaker 8: been done. You haven't done it. I want you to
Speaker 8: do it, and I'm certainly not paying for it. Is
Speaker 8: the way that I would approach it. Cody, thank you
Speaker 8: and good luck with that. It's you know, from a
Speaker 8: trades point of view. It is always disappointing when you
Speaker 8: know we're involved in discussions looking at work that is
Speaker 8: relatively straightforward with that's just done poorly or without lack
Speaker 8: of understanding, And this to me shows a lack of understanding,
Speaker 8: lack of understanding about building science, a lack of understanding
Speaker 8: about you know, basic ways that we build in order
Speaker 8: to prevent to decay. So if you're going to jam
Speaker 8: your weather boards hard down onto your flashing, it's going
Speaker 8: to rot over time. That's why we have a thirty
Speaker 8: five mire gap. It's as simple as that. Oh eight,
Speaker 8: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
Speaker 8: call if you've got building questions, we'll take those. If
Speaker 8: you've got any specific painting questions. Bryce McDermott, our painting expert,
Speaker 8: will join us at around seven forty five this morning.
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Speaker 8: B that'd be me. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 8: eighty is the number to call a text message. There's
Speaker 8: no excuse for that, whether or detail. This is referring
Speaker 8: to Cody's call a moment ago. Everything can be googled
Speaker 8: to get the correct information that builders should be on
Speaker 8: a blacklist and there needs to be a fine for
Speaker 8: work like that. I'm in I'm a lab oh been laborer.
Speaker 8: I'm a laborer. I presume been doing this thirty five years.
Speaker 8: And if I come across something I don't know, I
Speaker 8: simply google it. Well, you're right, I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 8: There is so much good information out there. There's also
Speaker 8: some pretty rubbish information out there. But if you go
Speaker 8: to a trusted source like, for example, brands, then you'll
Speaker 8: find information that's been well researched. And again, what I
Speaker 8: do find useful with some of the brand's documents that
Speaker 8: are available. And this isn't just available you know, to
Speaker 8: me as an LBP or anything like this. I searched
Speaker 8: for it online. Found that detail, like I say, within
Speaker 8: forty seconds or fifty seconds or something like that to
Speaker 8: get the detail is that it's public, it's well researched typically,
Speaker 8: and it's available to all of us online. So that
Speaker 8: whole issue around what distance should you have between cladding
Speaker 8: and flashing? There it is, and also some really good
Speaker 8: pictures as well, and it's all available. Oh, eight hundred
Speaker 8: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call if
Speaker 8: you've got a painting question. We're getting some great questions.
Speaker 8: Feel free to text for a couple more. Bryce will
Speaker 8: be joining us at around calld to seven This coord
Speaker 8: to W eight. This morning, Catherine, A very good morning
Speaker 8: to you.
Speaker 5: Oh good morning Page. My toilet is one of the
Speaker 5: old score ones with the side vents at the side
Speaker 5: of the bowl. And I just got the tail end
Speaker 5: of the conversation you had with that people having trouble
Speaker 5: trying to find a new toilet to six. Could you
Speaker 5: please just run over sation again from they please so
Speaker 5: in your situation.
Speaker 8: And I've seen them, you know, basically in most houses
Speaker 8: before the nineteen seventies, is my guess. I did a
Speaker 8: bathroom in a nineteen sixties bricantile unit a couple of
Speaker 8: years ago, and it had exactly that. It had the
Speaker 8: old you know, wooden system or wood covered system with
Speaker 8: a nice copper insert, and you've got a pipe that
Speaker 8: drops down into the back of the pan, and then
Speaker 8: out of the side of the pan was another vent
Speaker 8: that went into the wall and then outside up the
Speaker 8: wall and out through the roof. I think it was
Speaker 8: so typically today, when we're doing wastewater systems inside a house,
Speaker 8: let's say, you know, we typically we know where the
Speaker 8: connection is to outside, right, so we've got one hundred
Speaker 8: mil wastewater pipe in the ground, might have a gully dish,
Speaker 8: and then you'll have a connections that run through the house.
Speaker 8: One hundred milli line running to a toilet, then a
Speaker 8: maybe a sixty milli line running to a shower. And
Speaker 8: it's like a imagine the roots of a tree. Right,
Speaker 8: you got the tree trunk, and you got all the
Speaker 8: branches that go to the different fittings around the house.
Speaker 8: And typically one of those lines will extend past and
Speaker 8: go up and that one is just open to the air,
Speaker 8: so that when you use the toilet use a hand
Speaker 8: basin that's got a p trap on it, air is
Speaker 8: allowed into the system, which means that the water as
Speaker 8: it's rushing out doesn't suck all of the water out
Speaker 8: of the traps. Right, So every basin that we have
Speaker 8: has a trap below it and that holds water in
Speaker 8: the base of the trap, and that stops the foul
Speaker 8: air that's in the wastewater line from coming out in
Speaker 8: the bathroom. Right, it's the water in the trap that
Speaker 8: stops the foul vapors from coming into the house. So
Speaker 8: without a vent, that water will get sucked out. Now
Speaker 8: that's how we do it today. That's sort of modern plumbing,
Speaker 8: I guess back then with toilets, and that they vented
Speaker 8: them individually. You can't buy, to the best of my knowledge,
Speaker 8: you can't buy toilets anymore that vent individually. So you
Speaker 8: need to make sure that your your wastewater pipework inside
Speaker 8: the house has a terminal vent on it. And that's
Speaker 8: what you've got to talk to your plumber about. And
Speaker 8: that might just mean that where the connection, for example,
Speaker 8: to the toilet is is in your instance, is the
Speaker 8: toilet on a timber floor, a suspended floor, so the
Speaker 8: drainage connection is accessible and it's below there. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 8: So it might be that a junction is added underneath
Speaker 8: the floor penetrate out through the wall and up the
Speaker 8: outside of the house and that becomes your terminal vent.
Speaker 8: Great something like that. But you know, this is work
Speaker 8: that should be done to ensure that the system works properly.
Speaker 8: And of course this is work that should only be
Speaker 8: done by a registered plumber.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: people out there masquerading as plumbers.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Well again, the great thing with you know, plumbers
Speaker 8: and electricians and gas fitters and drain layers. Is that
Speaker 8: they are all registered trades, right, so anyone who is
Speaker 8: qualified should be able to provide you with their license,
Speaker 8: and all of their information is provided on a database
Speaker 8: which you could search. So again, you know, never allow
Speaker 8: someone who is seemingly masquerading as a plumber or an
Speaker 8: electrician to come and do what is restricted work without
Speaker 8: proving their identity. If you don't know them, well that's it.
Speaker 5: And sometimes even recommend for friends of friends can prove
Speaker 5: fatal as well.
Speaker 8: So it's always a tricky thing recommending people. And you know,
Speaker 8: I obviously I get asked every now and then, you know,
Speaker 8: and most of the time the people that I recommend
Speaker 8: do a great job, but every now and then we
Speaker 8: all make mistakes, right, So it's a bit anyway, that's
Speaker 8: another matter, but that basically is the system. So if
Speaker 8: your older plumbing system has event on on an individual toilet,
Speaker 8: you just need to adjust the way that the plumbing
Speaker 8: has worked out in the house.
Speaker 5: Great, I kind of thought that, but these days I
Speaker 5: like to triple check everything.
Speaker 8: Put on you too, good on you?
Speaker 5: Oh well, look you have a nice Christmas?
Speaker 11: Thank you? Okay, and thank you?
Speaker 8: And is it too early to say yeah, I think
Speaker 8: it has feel. I know it's the first of December,
Speaker 8: which is scary in its own way. Yeah, it is scary,
Speaker 8: isn't it first to December already? I just thinking about
Speaker 8: all those jobs that I wrote down on a piece
Speaker 8: of paper that I would get done this year. To
Speaker 8: be fair, I haven't got a lot of them done.
Speaker 8: Other things have gotten away, including making giant hats for plays,
Speaker 8: which worked out quite well. It was quite nice to
Speaker 8: see that, just in a quiet moment, roll out onto
Speaker 8: the stage at the Artea Center. I mentioned last week
Speaker 8: that I had spent quite a happy sort of day
Speaker 8: in a bit making a giant top hat as a
Speaker 8: mad Hatter as in Alice in Wonderland in my workshop
Speaker 8: last week, and then I had to make a few adjustments.
Speaker 8: To be fair, there was some creative differences, so I
Speaker 8: went back on the Monday, made some adjustments to the hat,
Speaker 8: and then yesterday at the Artea Center during National Youth
Speaker 8: Theater's performance of Alice a Wonderland Music Hall, out rolled
Speaker 8: the hat. I'm not giving anything away. I'm just saying
Speaker 8: that if you want to go, there are still tickets
Speaker 8: available today. Two shows today and then that's it for
Speaker 8: the kids, all two hundred and something of them who
Speaker 8: are proud of this musical theater. It was great, actually,
Speaker 8: it was wonderful last night. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 8: eighty is the number to call. We'll take a break,
Speaker 8: then we'll talk to Neville. If you are at all
Speaker 8: idly curious about the hat that I made, I did
Speaker 8: put some post pictures up on Instagram. Actually, so if
Speaker 8: you just search resident builder on Instagram you'll find them
Speaker 8: there me working away on the giant hat. It's a
Speaker 8: lot of fun. Actually, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 8: the number to call. Neville. Greetings, Hi, Peter, how Neville? Good,
Speaker 8: thank you.
Speaker 17: I've got a house with a two story house scott
Speaker 17: block basement, and then it's got a large window that
Speaker 17: goes right up to the apex, and the window is
Speaker 17: writting out down the bottom right. It's also cancidly that
Speaker 17: over the block work.
Speaker 8: Yes a foot and then you've.
Speaker 17: Got a deck which is coming through the bottom. The
Speaker 17: bearers are coming through and meeting the bearers of the house,
Speaker 17: which has caused all the rotting. Right yep, there's two
Speaker 17: beams going through the roof that is parallel with the ridge.
Speaker 17: Ridge line and they're held up in the middle of
Speaker 17: the living room with two posts and then it goes
Speaker 17: to the other side above the window. So I've had
Speaker 17: Address to a look at about a year ago, and
Speaker 17: he took too long to do anything about your record.
Speaker 17: He couldn't get the engineer to sort of want to
Speaker 17: look at it, so it sort of.
Speaker 8: Sat here and yeah, that's all right. I mean, I'm
Speaker 8: pleased that you've engaged a professional, so to speak, because
Speaker 8: you know, it sounds like the scope of the repair
Speaker 8: is slightly beyond just a repair in terms of you've
Speaker 8: now got to move into that remediation phase. And you know,
Speaker 8: one of the things that I guess in modern building
Speaker 8: methodology we spend a lot of time focused on is
Speaker 8: moisture ingress for obvious reasons, but also flashing details. And
Speaker 8: we were talking about that earlier with Cody. So you know,
Speaker 8: in I'm assuming from what you're saying that the way
Speaker 8: in which it was constructed in the past, where you've
Speaker 8: got beams that run from inside the building to outside
Speaker 8: of the building, that flashing that detail is really critical.
Speaker 8: Now today you can buy you can either have made
Speaker 8: custom made flashings or you can buy proprietary ones that
Speaker 8: allow you to seal that penetration really well. That stops
Speaker 8: water effectively sitting on top of the beam that can't
Speaker 8: leavers tracking along the top and going straight inside the building,
Speaker 8: which is probably what's happened.
Speaker 17: The thing is that I want to swap out that window.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, bind snyder in.
Speaker 17: Then whether the existing blocks will take that weight, what
Speaker 17: has to be done around supporting a larger sort of
Speaker 17: you know, a full length it's probably about six meters,
Speaker 17: right window.
Speaker 8: Okay, that's that's fairly significant. I think, you know, if
Speaker 8: you've got I'm just thinking about work that you can
Speaker 8: do without necessarily requiring a consent, versus work that does
Speaker 8: require a consent. So, for example, if you've got an
Speaker 8: existing window and you want to change that to a door,
Speaker 8: typically you can do that without necessarily requiring a consent
Speaker 8: as long as you don't extend the width of the opening, right,
Speaker 8: So you can take out the framing below, but you
Speaker 8: can't extend the width. As soon as you extend the
Speaker 8: width triggers requirement for building consent. So if that's what
Speaker 8: you're thinking about doing, you'll need to get a consent.
Speaker 8: If you're just taking out a window and putting in
Speaker 8: a set of a sliding door into the existing opening.
Speaker 8: I guess doing that amount of work will also allow
Speaker 8: you to expose those cant leave a jost and assess
Speaker 8: their condition. It sounds like if there is significant decay
Speaker 8: in there, you're probably going to have to replace those,
Speaker 8: which means replacing timber well back inside the building. That's
Speaker 8: then a structural issue, So I think I would get
Speaker 8: specific engineering advice on that. Have it drafted up.
Speaker 17: I think the actual house barers are okay.
Speaker 8: Yeah, in terms of bearing on top of the concrete wall,
Speaker 8: I think the concrete wall would probably be okay. Again,
Speaker 8: worth getting specific advice, but typically they're okay. If you
Speaker 8: needed to, you could solid fill some of it, but
Speaker 8: typically they're okay.
Speaker 17: So a slide away then, because you've got high windows
Speaker 17: as well above right the actual you know you've got
Speaker 17: like a V yes of windows.
Speaker 8: Surely if you were looking at replacing it, you would
Speaker 8: replace the entire joinery section. So you take out everything
Speaker 8: that's there, including the V shape or that runs to
Speaker 8: an apex, and replace it all with a new set
Speaker 8: of joinery rather than just trying to keep the original
Speaker 8: windows upstairs more in the upper part and replace the
Speaker 8: slider downstairs, right, I would have thought, because then you know,
Speaker 8: if you're trying to put new joinery into existing joinery effectively,
Speaker 8: then you've also got you know, flashing details that you
Speaker 8: have to address there, because what you don't want is
Speaker 8: that a leak occurs at that junction between you new
Speaker 8: joinery and your older existing joinery above it, and if
Speaker 8: you haven't flashed it properly, that's what will happen over time.
Speaker 17: So this window, like these two beams that are on
Speaker 17: the outside the roof, they go straight up from this
Speaker 17: window and they're sitting on the window sill.
Speaker 8: Right, Okay, look, I think definitely you're going to need
Speaker 8: to get specific design on this because you know, and
Speaker 8: I've seen this before sometimes with older construction, where you know,
Speaker 8: the window itself is offering up support to the structure
Speaker 8: above it, so you'll you'll have a wall that's literally
Speaker 8: resting on you know, the mullions of the existing joinery,
Speaker 8: and when you take that out, you find that actually
Speaker 8: the lintel is insufficient and it's loading up or it
Speaker 8: won't take the load of the roof above it. I
Speaker 8: very much am getting the impression that you're going to
Speaker 8: need to get specific design and and do that. It's
Speaker 8: going to end up being I think a fairly significant
Speaker 8: job by the sound of it. I wish you well
Speaker 8: with all of that, Neville, good luck, but do get
Speaker 8: specific design. Thanks for you call. Radio. We're going to
Speaker 8: take very short break. Do we need to take a
Speaker 8: break now?
Speaker 2: Ah?
Speaker 8: Yeah we can. Okay, let's do that. Then we've got
Speaker 8: Bryce who is going to answer your painting question straight
Speaker 8: after the break, Radio, Bryce McDermott, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: As always, lovely to have you with us on a
Speaker 8: Sunday morning. How are you, Bryce?
Speaker 14: Not too bad mate?
Speaker 10: Yourself good?
Speaker 8: Yeah, not too shabby at all. Actually, thank you very much.
Speaker 14: That's good.
Speaker 8: Now we talk about painting, but we should actually take
Speaker 8: a step back and just go let's do the safety
Speaker 8: stuff and take a break and just take a moment
Speaker 8: to think about doing the job safely. Give us some tips.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Well, you know, if you're thinking about painting
Speaker 14: a certain section of your house, you know, you think,
Speaker 14: how am I going to do this? It's going to
Speaker 14: get in the way. What could happen to me if
Speaker 14: I fall all off and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 14: You know, don't work at home on your own. Make
Speaker 14: sure there's somebody homekeeping an eye on you. Especially if
Speaker 14: you're going to work around where the power into the building,
Speaker 14: you'll have to have that isolated, yes, or even disconnected.
Speaker 14: You can contact your power company and they can do
Speaker 14: that for you. So you don't want to go up
Speaker 14: and smoke on your holidays, So it's important that you
Speaker 14: consider that, you know, it's quite dangerous. You've also got
Speaker 14: to check out your access equipment, you know, and make
Speaker 14: sure that you've got a reasonable equipment to get you
Speaker 14: to what you want to do, you know, not Granddad's
Speaker 14: old ladder that's been sitting in the shed for one
Speaker 14: hundred years or whatever. Ye you know, you've got to
Speaker 14: have good safe equipment, you know, good aluminium ladders, scaffolds
Speaker 14: or what have you, just to get you up there.
Speaker 14: And it's a lot more fun rather than having your
Speaker 14: knees tremble while you're up a rickety ladder or something
Speaker 14: like that.
Speaker 8: Absolutely. Look, I'll tell a story after the news about,
Speaker 8: you know, watching a guy tumble from a roof and
Speaker 8: it's still in my mind. I can still hear the thud.
Speaker 8: Right to be a graphic and no one wants to
Speaker 8: be in that situation, So you're absolutely right. You know,
Speaker 8: check your leads, make sure that that's safe. If you're
Speaker 8: using power tools outside and they're corded, make sure they're
Speaker 8: running through a proper RCD to ensure that if you
Speaker 8: cut the cord or something like that, then you're going
Speaker 8: to be protected. And you write old ladders, go treat
Speaker 8: yourself to a new one this Christmas. Because I stood
Speaker 8: on one the other day whether the aluminium had decayed
Speaker 8: to the point or deterior to the point where the
Speaker 8: tread gave way under my foot right, and I was
Speaker 8: in the end. I just cut it in half and
Speaker 8: I took it and recycled it. That's the best thing
Speaker 8: for old ladders. Go and get yourself a ladder.
Speaker 14: A lot of people don't realize you can just whip
Speaker 14: the old ladder down to the and they'll give you
Speaker 14: some money for it.
Speaker 8: That's right. In the old days, it was beer money.
Speaker 8: Now it's money for a chai late. Right, let's get
Speaker 8: into a couple of tigs. Fence painting. Hey, I want
Speaker 8: to paint a fence black stain or acrylic paint an
Speaker 8: opinion on it about maybe warping or cost from Stephen
Speaker 8: So beatimber, let's say, and you want to make it black.
Speaker 14: Well, in terms of maintenance, paintings that probably the better option.
Speaker 14: You know, with stains, they do to tear right after
Speaker 14: a couple of years, especially if they're in full sun. Right,
Speaker 14: So you've got to consider whether you want to spend
Speaker 14: you know, every couple of years out there repainting your fence.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 14: Cost wise, there's probably not much in it. But in
Speaker 14: the long term, paintings probably the better option because you're
Speaker 14: not out there redoing it every couple of years. So
Speaker 14: if you're looking at labor, maybe in terms of redoing it,
Speaker 14: painting is probably the more cost effective option. And there's
Speaker 14: a multitude of colors that you can use, but you
Speaker 14: know black, you know, you can buy a ten lead
Speaker 14: bucket of lumbersider and black and put it on the
Speaker 14: way you go perfect.
Speaker 8: So over being timber. Primer first, then top coat.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't know if it's if it's super important,
Speaker 14: but if it's freshly canalized and stuff like that, yes
Speaker 14: I would. I would prime it just to keep the
Speaker 14: cannalizing sort of blocked out from the top coats. If
Speaker 14: it's painted already then, and you know, in sound condition.
Speaker 14: You know, you could just go over the top of it.
Speaker 14: A fence after all. I mean, it's you know, you
Speaker 14: do have to do certain sensibilities and things, but it
Speaker 14: is a fence at the end of the day.
Speaker 8: Ye perfect right. Someone would like to stain a front
Speaker 8: door slightly darker without having to stand it back completely.
Speaker 8: It has a varnish on top, it's weathered, hoping for
Speaker 8: a special prime. I think they're hoping for a shortcut,
Speaker 8: but I'm not sure that there is one.
Speaker 14: There probably isn't.
Speaker 9: Really.
Speaker 14: We can tint up our water borne polyurethane and with
Speaker 14: a slight amount of tin by the little bottles tint
Speaker 14: that you can pour into it, but it's not really
Speaker 14: meant for an exterior situation. If you wanted to change
Speaker 14: the color, it's I don't think there's much option but
Speaker 14: to strip it back and start again, especially if it's
Speaker 14: deteriorated a bit. You know, you've got staining on the
Speaker 14: probably on the door, you've got opaque polyurethane, you've got cracks,
Speaker 14: you've got things, all sorts of things. I don't know
Speaker 14: without looking at the person's door, but you know, it
Speaker 14: may be more sensible to strip it off, stand it up,
Speaker 14: stain it to the color you want, and re polyurythane,
Speaker 14: maybe with a marine vanish.
Speaker 8: Right over the top. Brilliant. Now this is an interesting
Speaker 8: one morning. We've had a rat infestation in our ceiling
Speaker 8: last year, which we've now dealt with. We have had
Speaker 8: rat urine stains on some of the ceilings. How can
Speaker 8: we treat those areas in order to repaint successfully?
Speaker 14: From Marie hmm, Well, we do have a product of
Speaker 14: now is called stain lock that you can you can
Speaker 14: put on stains on ceilings or stain on paint in
Speaker 14: general to can't block it out you know, felt pen
Speaker 14: marks and stuff like that. It will absorb the stain,
Speaker 14: but it won't go any further. And then you know
Speaker 14: you could quick try over the top of that and
Speaker 14: proceed with repainting, or you could you know, if it's
Speaker 14: dry and not too bad and things like that, you
Speaker 14: put the good old solvable and sure seal on it
Speaker 14: block it out. But yes, I think sure seel or
Speaker 14: stain lock would be the option.
Speaker 8: Okay. Now, in terms of quela, for example, like if
Speaker 8: you've got a new piece of quila, they're asking how
Speaker 8: long do you leave it before putting a coat on it?
Speaker 8: M And I guess dress as general for all hardwoods.
Speaker 14: Yeah, because you've got the little the tenons and everything
Speaker 14: running out of it as soon as it gets wet,
Speaker 14: and people like to stop that because it can driple
Speaker 14: over the place. And you know, especially if you've got
Speaker 14: a deck above a patio below, you up all these
Speaker 14: brown stains and nice neat lines everywhere.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 14: Not a great deal you can do about it. Generally,
Speaker 14: you've got to leave timber or timber decks the weather
Speaker 14: for about three months before you can put a stain
Speaker 14: on them, just to let them settle, you know, allow
Speaker 14: the timber to expand and do its business and just
Speaker 14: generally settle in and then you can put the We
Speaker 14: do have a cooiler decking stain that you can put
Speaker 14: on that you know, sort of retains the color of
Speaker 14: the coiler, you know, sort of an orange sort of
Speaker 14: red color. But yeah, I would, you know, there's not
Speaker 14: a great deal you can do about it. I would
Speaker 14: just leave it to weather, and leave it.
Speaker 8: To weather first and then apply it's.
Speaker 14: An issue of it dripping on areas below. Then you know,
Speaker 14: just the if it's just going straight onto the ground.
Speaker 14: It shouldn't be a problem. But then just after three months,
Speaker 14: just you know, give it a code of coiler decking stain.
Speaker 14: It's put the instructions and.
Speaker 17: Away you go.
Speaker 8: Now here's a classic. Recently, been painting skirting boards with
Speaker 8: an acrylic the painter has touched up the lino as well.
Speaker 8: Is there an easy way to get in this case
Speaker 8: acrylic off the lino floor.
Speaker 14: Me misilated spirits will will will soften, and acrylics and
Speaker 14: things like that. Failing that, we do have a proprietary
Speaker 14: paint remover latex paint remover as the Americans call it,
Speaker 14: that will remove acrylic paint off surfaces. So if you
Speaker 14: nip into one of our shops and you can. It
Speaker 14: comes in a spray bottle, and you know that should
Speaker 14: do the trick. You know, you just spread it on,
Speaker 14: leave it for a bit and then wipe it off.
Speaker 8: I'm writing that down because the number of times I've
Speaker 8: had calls from people going, you know, the paint has
Speaker 8: been or I've been painting and I've got, you know,
Speaker 8: splashes of acrylic paint on aluminium jewelery, for example, how
Speaker 8: do I get it off? So this latex paint. It
Speaker 8: might be the solution there.
Speaker 14: Yeah, but you know, if something's been sitting on the
Speaker 14: aluminum joinal for quite some time, you know it's probably
Speaker 14: not going to do the trick, right might you might
Speaker 14: have to look at some form of solvent like go
Speaker 14: our number twelve center or something which is a good
Speaker 14: general cleaner.
Speaker 8: Sounds good, Bryce, We're right on top of the news. Fantastic,
Speaker 8: Thank you you're a News Talks there'd be welcome back
Speaker 8: to the show. Bryce mcdommott, our painting expert just before
Speaker 8: the news and really appreciate his insights as always. I'm
Speaker 8: just trying to think whether that might be the last
Speaker 8: show with Bryce this year, because suddenly all of those
Speaker 8: deadlines are looming, aren't they. You know, December the first today?
Speaker 8: How many couple more shows? As it happens, I'll carry
Speaker 8: on doing Sundays through the Christmas and New Year break.
Speaker 8: Looking forward to that. Actually, I'll be working here on
Speaker 8: Christmas Day. I'm going to be doing i think eleven
Speaker 8: to one on Christmas Day, so looking forward to that
Speaker 8: as well a couple of other quick painting ones. Just
Speaker 8: before we move back into the building, Can I paint
Speaker 8: the inside of a color steel fence straight away. Yep,
Speaker 8: pretty much wash it down, apply an adhesion primer. So
Speaker 8: there's a very specific razine primer for that that you
Speaker 8: need to use.
Speaker 10: Um.
Speaker 8: And what's the other one that came Ah, remove roof
Speaker 8: paint spray that has drifted onto plastic outdoor chairs. I'm
Speaker 8: wondering whether that latex paint remover which comes in a
Speaker 8: little spray bottle might be the go there. It'll soften
Speaker 8: it up and then allow you to scrape it off,
Speaker 8: depending on how much there is. I have to say
Speaker 8: spray drift from roof painting is a little bit uncommon. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that would have been annoying. I would have imagined eight
Speaker 8: hundred and eighty eighty is that number to call?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 8: Another quick couple of texts that came through. I live
Speaker 8: in christ Church. Can I replace my toilet with a
Speaker 8: composting toilet? I wonder whether the local council might have
Speaker 8: some issues around that in terms of if you were
Speaker 8: in an urban area, I think you would have to
Speaker 8: prove compliance. You'd have to prove that it's not going
Speaker 8: to inadvertently become a nuisance to your neighbors. In the
Speaker 8: same way that something that's sort of come up. I
Speaker 8: know Auckland Council, but probably other councils as well have
Speaker 8: started to introduce sort of a maintenance schedule for septic
Speaker 8: tanks as well within the Auckland city boundaries, which is
Speaker 8: reasonably large. So people are having to get an independent
Speaker 8: assessment and maintenance done of their septic systems. And I
Speaker 8: would imagine the same thing would would apply here if
Speaker 8: you were doing a composting toilet. Great idea, but it's
Speaker 8: going to be a christ Church City Council question. Another
Speaker 8: quick text that came through love the show Thank You
Speaker 8: very Much. I want to repair my old letterbox. The
Speaker 8: wood is old and cracked. Would putty be enough to
Speaker 8: make small repairs to the cracks? The issue sometimes with
Speaker 8: putty is if you use too much of it'll just
Speaker 8: fall out. So for larger cracks, I tend to use
Speaker 8: specific products like repair Care, which is a two part
Speaker 8: adhesive and filler so it'll stick to the area, but
Speaker 8: also you can use it to build up areas. There's
Speaker 8: a couple of similar products out there. The one that
Speaker 8: I happen to use is repair Care. In fact, I've
Speaker 8: got a job for that shortly where power has been undergrounded,
Speaker 8: and so I've got you know, where the large screw
Speaker 8: goes into the facier board of an older house, the
Speaker 8: big hook that they hang the power on, and then
Speaker 8: the junction box with the terminal box that hangs next
Speaker 8: to it, and then of course there's the chorus connection
Speaker 8: that used to go under overhead has now come an underground.
Speaker 8: So I've got to get up there safely. As per
Speaker 8: the discussion with Bryce just for the news around working
Speaker 8: at heights at home. So I've actually got a small
Speaker 8: mobile scaffold. I'll take that to the job. Get up there,
Speaker 8: unscrew these fittings now that they've been deleted, they're no
Speaker 8: longer live. And then you know, I've got like a
Speaker 8: ten twelve millimeter hole where the screw fitting when in
Speaker 8: for the overhead power line. I'll back that out. Hopefully
Speaker 8: i can get that out in one piece, and then
Speaker 8: I'll use something like repair Care there to fill that hole.
Speaker 8: You can also fetch in a new piece of timber,
Speaker 8: but the repair Care should do that job all in
Speaker 8: One oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 8: the number to call, and Dave a very good morning
Speaker 8: to you. How are you this morning, Dave. Hello, Dave,
Speaker 8: why is that not happening for me? There we go, Dave, greetings, greeting. Sorry,
Speaker 8: technical issues on my side.
Speaker 10: That's all right. I'll just tear a hole of the
Speaker 10: windows replaced with double glazing. Yes, and now that's where
Speaker 10: they come and then cut them on the inside and
Speaker 10: pushed them out and slide.
Speaker 8: The new ones and into timber joinery.
Speaker 10: Well, on my brick tile aluminium house, it's between the brickworks.
Speaker 8: Yes, but there must be a frame that the double glazing.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the frame was built into the window, and I
Speaker 10: think they just slide the new one into place.
Speaker 8: And the frame is timber or aluminium.
Speaker 10: Timber?
Speaker 8: Okay, like it was.
Speaker 10: I guess. My question is on the outside they put
Speaker 10: a ceiling along the top, but between the brick and
Speaker 10: aluminium down the sides there is a like a little
Speaker 10: gap where you can see the cavity behind it. Should
Speaker 10: there be ceiling? The old ones didn't look like they
Speaker 10: had it. I don't know.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 8: Typically, because the way that you know brick cavities work
Speaker 8: or brickwork is typically done is you've got your timber framing,
Speaker 8: then you have building wrap. Then you'll have a cavity
Speaker 8: forty millimeters, and then you'll have your brickwork, and you
Speaker 8: tend to put the windows in first. This is from
Speaker 8: new right. You put the windows in first, you flash
Speaker 8: behind the windows onto the timber framing, and then you
Speaker 8: bring your bricks up to it. And typically we don't
Speaker 8: seal a vertical seal a bead of sealant between the
Speaker 8: aluminium joinery or the joinery and the brickwork, because the
Speaker 8: small amount of moisture that might get through there enters
Speaker 8: the cavity and drains out through there. So no, there's
Speaker 8: no requirement there to fill that.
Speaker 10: Gap up helpsolute of breathe. I guess two.
Speaker 8: The wall inside, Yeah, that's certainly part of it. In
Speaker 8: the same way that you know, at the bottom of
Speaker 8: the brickwork, you'll find that there is some joints raked
Speaker 8: out that allows air to enter. And then typically at
Speaker 8: the top the brickwork stops either a little bit shy
Speaker 8: of the feet lining or the whatever cladding there is
Speaker 8: above to allow air to enter at the bottom and
Speaker 8: vent at the top. That's really important.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Okay, so because my neighbor, I followed my neighbor, she
Speaker 10: had it done as well, right, now she said, some
Speaker 10: other work just recently done, and they've talked to her
Speaker 10: into ceiling the whole window, and they've gone around ceiling
Speaker 10: all the windows, all full sides.
Speaker 8: So again depending on you know, like if, for example,
Speaker 8: if it was double brick without a cavity, or if
Speaker 8: it was solid masonry you know that it and the
Speaker 8: window was inserted into the solid masonry, then I'd probably
Speaker 8: apply a seilant. But if it's conventional timber framing, building
Speaker 8: wrap cavity and then brickwork, I wouldn't be too concerned
Speaker 8: as long as Now this is where it gets tricky
Speaker 8: because if you're retrofitting right, so you're you're not taking
Speaker 8: the brickwork away, but you're changing the joinery. Basically, once
Speaker 8: you put the joinery in place, you can't flash behind it, right,
Speaker 8: So if you can't flash behind it, then you try
Speaker 8: and stop water entering the cavity by sealing the front.
Speaker 8: But if in your instance, they haven't changed the frame,
Speaker 8: They've just taken the glazing out, deepened the rebates and
Speaker 8: inserted the double glazing.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 10: The tumbeln cut cut round the window.
Speaker 8: But have they actually taken the window frame that the
Speaker 8: double glaze that sits out.
Speaker 10: Yes, and then pushed the new one which has already
Speaker 10: bumped into the aluminium winder.
Speaker 8: Think, yeah, see in that instance there, because you know,
Speaker 8: practically speaking, you can't once it goes in, you can't
Speaker 8: deal with the flashings behind it. And you know, in
Speaker 8: some situations when the joinery goes in, the flashing behind
Speaker 8: it is just some DPC right, some dampproof course that
Speaker 8: is stapled in and tucked in behind there, and that's
Speaker 8: enough to prevent water getting into the gap between your
Speaker 8: timber framing and your jowinery. You can do that from
Speaker 8: you but you can't do that as retrofit. So maybe
Speaker 8: if it is a retrofit in this instance, ceiling around
Speaker 8: the outside would be required. Look, simple thing is to
Speaker 8: go back to the contractor and go is there you know,
Speaker 8: what's your methodology? Have you followed the process that you've
Speaker 8: established that you know is going to work, And if
Speaker 8: that requires selent, then they need to come back and
Speaker 8: do selant. All right, I hope that helps enjoy the
Speaker 8: double glazing. It'll make a big difference. Really, Okay, that's good,
Speaker 8: all right, all the rest if you take care, I mean,
Speaker 8: that's one of the benefits of double glazing, isn't it?
Speaker 8: You know you had some single glazing, then you've got
Speaker 8: double glazing. You know the benefit the day after because
Speaker 8: it's going to be warmer. Oh, weight one hundred and
Speaker 8: eighty ten eighty is the number two. All pete spelt
Speaker 8: the old way like my dad's name. My daughter has
Speaker 8: inherited a nineteen sixties house with asbestos in some of
Speaker 8: the ceilings. Are there other options than removing it? The
Speaker 8: kitchen one is badly stained from cooking, and the lounge
Speaker 8: is looking very sooty from Connie encapsulating. It is okay
Speaker 8: in the sense that with some decent advice. In fact,
Speaker 8: I think Asbestos Awareness Week was last week and there's
Speaker 8: a whole lot of new guidance. It's quite digestible, it's
Speaker 8: quite readable. You'll find it on the work Safe website.
Speaker 8: So there's new guidance for homeowners around sort of dealing
Speaker 8: with asbestos in your house. So in this instance here,
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, option one would be pull the
Speaker 8: ceilings down, remove the material and replace the ceilings. If
Speaker 8: the other option is to encapture, so essentially to put
Speaker 8: a new layer of plasterboard underneath the existing ceilings, you
Speaker 8: got to be a little bit careful about that and
Speaker 8: then stop and paint that. So those, broadly speaking, are
Speaker 8: your options, but neither of them is a cheap option.
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Speaker 8: your building questions, Peter, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 11: Good morning, Peter Lock. I'm looking to project manage my
Speaker 11: house and it comes back to the LPP. Now, the
Speaker 11: individual trades, they will sign off their own work, is
Speaker 11: that correct? Yes?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 11: And the bill and the builder hey will go.
Speaker 17: His part.
Speaker 11: But when do I need an lp B to oversee
Speaker 11: all of the work.
Speaker 8: It's a very good question. No don't, No, you don't
Speaker 8: so in terms of so restricting building work in most
Speaker 8: cases needs to be done or supervised by a licensed
Speaker 8: building practitioner. So what's the scale of your projects? Peter?
Speaker 11: So, we too be droom greennie flattyp.
Speaker 8: With building consent. Yes, okay, all right, So the restricted
Speaker 8: trades that will be involved will be foundations, framing, cladding, roofing, waterproofing,
Speaker 8: those sorts of things. Right, So each of those contractors
Speaker 8: you could manage them, and each of them will provide
Speaker 8: you with either a producer statement or a record of
Speaker 8: works or a memorandum of work that you can then
Speaker 8: provide to counsel when you apply for your Code Compliance Certificate.
Speaker 8: You'r CCC at the end of the job. Yes, right,
Speaker 8: you go ahead.
Speaker 11: What I was saying is that, yeah, I thought that
Speaker 11: would be the case, but when it comes to the
Speaker 11: final the builder, hey, will give me his certificate and
Speaker 11: then all I have to do is take them all
Speaker 11: to the council to correct. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So what the builder should do, your licensed building practitioner
Speaker 8: is they will issue you with a record of works
Speaker 8: for all of the restricted building work that they do.
Speaker 8: So their record of works will if they've done the foundations,
Speaker 8: they'll include the foundations, they'll include the framing. So you know,
Speaker 8: I've done the framing in accordance with the building Code.
Speaker 8: I've done the cavity system if required, I've done the cladding,
Speaker 8: I've installed the joinery, I've done you know the roof framing.
Speaker 8: I've done the internal bracing. So you know, if you've
Speaker 8: got a jib bracing system and it's a b LH
Speaker 8: one to one point two meters, they'll say, yep, I've
Speaker 8: installed that correctly. That's the restricted building work and all
Speaker 8: of that should be covered off on their record of works.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
Speaker 8: All right, good luck with the project. Thank you all
Speaker 8: the very best to you. Bother then, and a quick
Speaker 8: one from you, Bruce, how are you?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, good good Figus. Hey, my questions this. I've
Speaker 6: got three houses of just relocated a new site and
Speaker 6: Evian's going well. That's the power which was put down
Speaker 6: the driveway, all went well, and then the electrical inspector
Speaker 6: came out through that last week and said, no, there's
Speaker 6: moisture in the power cable. What the remedy for that?
Speaker 8: Look to be fair, you know, you need to get
Speaker 8: specific advice on that. When they say moisture, is there
Speaker 8: moisture in the cable or in the deducting for the
Speaker 8: cable in the contract?
Speaker 6: He just indicated that that the power's coming from the streets.
Speaker 6: But then there's no power at the top of the
Speaker 6: driveway and there's no power at the bottom of the
Speaker 6: driveway to get this sixty meter driveway, and he said
Speaker 6: that the cable's broken or there's moisture that's stopping the
Speaker 6: movement of power. Okay, but I've got I've got to
Speaker 6: meet I've got my ectrician coming to myrow morning.
Speaker 8: I was going to say, ultimately, it's going to be
Speaker 8: a discussion with the contractor who installed it, you know,
Speaker 8: and if they've done it in such a way that
Speaker 8: you know, I know, it seems really scary, and I
Speaker 8: still get scared about this, but apparently it's completely legitimate.
Speaker 8: Is you know, certain types of power cable for Maine
Speaker 8: supply are just laid in the trench, right, They're not
Speaker 8: protected by condurit And I always kind of look at
Speaker 8: that and go, jeepers. I think I'd prefer to have
Speaker 8: mine in the conduit. And then, you know, if contractors
Speaker 8: have not paid attention while they're backfilling and they've used
Speaker 8: the wrong material, then yeah, inadvertently they may well have
Speaker 8: damaged that MAINZ cable, which would be a real big issue,
Speaker 8: especially in terms of identifying where the damage might be,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, and digging up and redoing
Speaker 8: sixty meters of cable, because sixty meters of cable, you'll
Speaker 8: know that's not cheap.
Speaker 6: No, it's right, it's three house.
Speaker 8: It become I wateringly expensive, isn't it? That cable? Yeah? Look,
Speaker 8: I think it's all going to come back on your contractor,
Speaker 8: because it's simple. You've asked them to do a job,
Speaker 8: run power from the road to the house, and then
Speaker 8: they've done it and it's been backfilled. Now they might say, look,
Speaker 8: I didn't do the back it's not my problem. But
Speaker 8: you can argue that later on. Did you do the
Speaker 8: trenching yourself or did the contractors do the trenching?
Speaker 6: Another contract? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, let us know how you get on. I'd
Speaker 8: be fascinated to know what the discussion tomorrow, how that
Speaker 8: got resolved.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will all right, Okay, Pete appreciate that.
Speaker 8: Bruce, good luck with it. Take care Criche To be fair,
Speaker 8: it's not one that I'm particularly familiar with, righty. Oh,
Speaker 8: If you would like to talk to rut and I'm
Speaker 8: sure you would because some of you have already started
Speaker 8: to call, the lines are open. The number to call
Speaker 8: is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty back in a moment.
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