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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp from News Talks at Bay.

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Speaker 2: The house is a hole, even when it's darks, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overgrown.

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Speaker 3: In the yard, even when.

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Speaker 2: A dog is too old to borrow, And when you're

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Speaker 2: sitting at the table trying not to stop in the

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Speaker 2: house scissor home, even when we are band gone, even when.

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Speaker 4: You're there alone, you know.

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Speaker 2: A house sizzle hole, even when those goes, even when.

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Speaker 5: You got around from the world, you love your move.

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Speaker 4: Screamed bling pains being.

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Speaker 6: In fund the world.

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Speaker 2: Locals lisball when they're going.

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Speaker 7: Leaving the.

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Speaker 2: House, even when web Ben love even when you're there.

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Speaker 4: Lone alrighty, oh, good morning.

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Speaker 8: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I hope that you've had a good week.

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Speaker 8: My name is pepe off Camp, the Resident Builder, and

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Speaker 8: this is the Resident Builder on Sunday. So we are

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Speaker 8: here to talk about your place, to talk about all

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Speaker 8: things building and construction. So as I say, I trust

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Speaker 8: that you've had a good week. For those of you, well,

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Speaker 8: I think South Island had a fair amount of rain.

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Speaker 8: We've certainly had well steady rain, which came as a

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Speaker 8: bit of a surprise after what was a tremendous day

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Speaker 8: on Friday. It was hot, it was still, it was light,

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Speaker 8: and then Saturday has been a bit sort of but

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Speaker 8: ho hum, hasn't it And it's still raining this morning,

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Speaker 8: which is probably what do there we say anytime rain

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Speaker 8: comes and it's not too bad, Oh, it's good for

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Speaker 8: the garden. Well it probably has been, so yeah, it

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Speaker 8: was raining last night, which meant that no one could drive,

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Speaker 8: which means in the motorways were all blocked up and

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Speaker 8: trying it. I was just ready to start a couple

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Speaker 8: of jobs around the house, and maybe I'm taking the

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Speaker 8: weather as an excuse not to crack into a few things.

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Speaker 8: So if you're thinking, gosh, my excuse for not getting

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Speaker 8: started is I'm not quite sure what to do, then

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Speaker 8: the show is for you. I'm not offering up other excuses,

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Speaker 8: the other ways of getting out of doing jobs. I'm

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Speaker 8: offering to you the opportunity to talk about a project

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Speaker 8: that you might have or a dilemma that you might

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Speaker 8: be facing around the house, and we can look for

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Speaker 8: some suggestions and some solutions to those challenges that we have.

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Speaker 8: So the lines are open. The number to call, oh

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Speaker 8: eight hundred eighty ten, eighty. You can text, of course,

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Speaker 8: because it is you can text through that's nine two

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Speaker 8: nine two or ZEDBZB from your mobile phone. And if

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Speaker 8: you'd like to send me an email, you're more than welcome.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 8: It's Pete at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz. So Pete

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Speaker 8: at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz. Righty, oh, well, construction

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Speaker 8: has been so much in the news recently, lots of

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Speaker 8: stuff around social housing networks, community housing providers, which is well,

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Speaker 8: it's an important issue. I'm more than happy to talk

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Speaker 8: about it on the show this morning. And also, well,

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Speaker 8: I guess the most significant thing is today is the

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Speaker 8: first of December. So if you start to think about

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Speaker 8: getting the house ready for Christmas, if you're starting to

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Speaker 8: think about perhaps getting some trade, e's in to get

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Speaker 8: been a quiet year, right for most tradespeople. So typically

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Speaker 8: that Christmas rush, which might start sort of late October,

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Speaker 8: sometimes early October if it's been a good year, doesn't

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Speaker 8: really feel that it's there right now. But if you

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Speaker 8: do have a project that you'd like to get started

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Speaker 8: first of December. You need to get underway with it.

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Speaker 8: So if you'd like to call, oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 8: ten eighty is that number to call. We are back

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Speaker 8: to sort of normal scheduling today on the program No

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Speaker 8: Rugby Commentary. The All Blacks obviously have finished their Northern tour,

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Speaker 8: so Rid will join us at as regular time at

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Speaker 8: around eight point thirty this morning through till nine o'clock.

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Speaker 8: We have Bryce McDermott from Razine Paints. He will be

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Speaker 8: seven forty five this morning, Oh eight hundred eighty ten addy. Though,

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Speaker 8: Now if I'm getting some texts already, that's great. If

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Speaker 8: about the song I'm not even going to go there right, yeah,

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Speaker 8: good morning, regular caller. However, throat isn't suitable for radio

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Speaker 8: this morning. Any ideas on this. I have a unit

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Speaker 8: meets a plywood roof and need to sort out a

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Speaker 8: flashing to finish it off. At a loss what to

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Speaker 8: know what might look good or work well? Kind regards

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Speaker 8: from Paul what jumps to mind. So if you've got

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Speaker 8: plasterboard running up to it is if it's already done,

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Speaker 8: it's a little bit too late. But if I was

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Speaker 8: a little negative detail, a little flashing. There's various different

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Speaker 8: jib flashings. They're made by jibs metal flashings that will

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Speaker 8: allow you to have like a little negative detail. So

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Speaker 8: you'd have the plasterboard running into the wall, then you

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Speaker 8: plasterboard or you had to have your plywood rather running

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Speaker 8: guess now, Paul, for you just a scotia and then

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Speaker 8: painted in with the wall color. If you pre paint

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Speaker 8: in becomes a little bit easier as well, especially when

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Speaker 8: you're trying to do paint to plywood, which is probably

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Speaker 8: going to be clear finished. Cutting in along there is

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Speaker 8: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 8: to call. We'll talk all things building construction, and we'll

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Speaker 8: have a crack at a little bit of plumbing as well. Simon,

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Speaker 8: good morning to you. Gosh, there is something with the screen, gotcha? Silent? Simon, Hello, Sorry,

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Speaker 8: go for it.

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Speaker 9: Okay. I have an old brass tap and I removed

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Speaker 9: I wanted to replace the washer if they want. It's

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Speaker 9: not a rubber one. It's one of those light brown ones.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. They almost feel sort of fiberish, don't they.

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Speaker 9: And the old one, I I can't get it off.

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Speaker 9: It just seems to be completely.

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Speaker 9: Ended up up doing was putting a new one over

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Speaker 9: with very little thread to screw the little nut back

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Speaker 9: on the back onto the TAP's the one that closes

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Speaker 9: off the water from coming in. So do you know

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Speaker 8: I would have thought that to be if it was me,

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Speaker 8: I would just attack it with a sharp knife. Right

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Speaker 8: in the sense that the washer itself, the fibrous one,

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Speaker 8: made of brass. So in the end, as long as

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Speaker 8: plunger as such. So I just set to it with

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Speaker 8: wirebrush to clean it up, and then you can seat

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Speaker 8: on the thread of the nut that goes that holds

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Speaker 8: it in place. Yeah, yeah, right, you don't have to

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Speaker 8: be I mean, you have to be a little bit delicate,

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Speaker 9: Oh okay, Can I ask you another quick question, Do

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Speaker 9: you know what a wet back is?

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Speaker 8: Yes, So, a wet back typically is a system where

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Speaker 8: let's say you have a an argur or you know,

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Speaker 8: is they'll set up a system of pipework behind there

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Speaker 8: that will have water flowing through it. The water is

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Speaker 8: then heated by the appliance, by either the ivan or

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Speaker 8: something like that. And what it does is you can

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Speaker 8: use it if you've got sufficient storage for all of

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Speaker 8: it to preheat the water going to the cylinder. So

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Speaker 8: if so, for example, cold water is twenty two or

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Speaker 8: get the temperature up. That's as I understand, that's how

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Speaker 8: the theory, that's how it works. Oh yeah, right, I was.

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Speaker 9: Asking is because my plumber was doing some work under

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Speaker 9: So I've got around the house, I've it's all closed in. Yes,

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Speaker 9: it's raised lawboards, and it was connected to one of

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Speaker 9: the perimitive the house and all the events. So one

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, I mean a flu typically flues run vertically

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Speaker 8: it's quite possible. It's unusual, but it is quite.

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Speaker 9: Possible, Okay, Because I was just wondering whether I could

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Speaker 8: Look, I think I would trace it along from outside

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Speaker 8: to the end of it or where something was attached

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Speaker 8: you could remove it. Yeah, what's your existing hot water system,

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Speaker 8: what's the heating system.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, so that'll have that doesn't need to be flu,

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Speaker 8: but it will have an overflow so that if the

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Speaker 8: water should flow to the outside of the building. Right,

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Speaker 8: So obviously that's a different thing. But yeah, the flu. Look,

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Speaker 8: if it's if it's not attached to anything you've been

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Speaker 8: under there, go ahead and rip it out.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 8: All right, nice to talk to you. Sign all the

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Speaker 8: best by your new salk seed B. If you've got

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Speaker 8: a question of a building nature, eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 8: ten eighty is that number to call. So one good

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Speaker 8: morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Morning.

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Speaker 8: How are you morning, mate, I'm very well in yourself.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna love with them. I'm gonna go doing some

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Speaker 12: Of course, we're looking at if there's any standard costing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the mud or.

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Speaker 8: And this is one of those things that it's often

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Speaker 8: It doesn't feel like forty years ago, but it is.

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Speaker 8: It is timber. Okay, Look, I think the great thing

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Speaker 8: weatherboards that are an issue you could do. I suspect

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Speaker 8: So you could go through if you really wanted to

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Speaker 12: You mentioned something about the metal clanning. We've got to reserve,

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Speaker 8: That would be my approach.

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Speaker 8: Good of you to call take care, enjoy your work today,

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Speaker 8: take care your news, stork seed. But as this is

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Speaker 8: as well. Hey, I'm looking at purchasing a property in Wellington.

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Speaker 13: Very good morning, Peter. I've even intrigued with these packets,

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Speaker 13: We also I asked, you know, I queried it and

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Speaker 13: the gaps, and.

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Speaker 8: Yes, but you imagine if if imagine, if you were

431
00:24:53,855 --> 00:24:55,575
Speaker 8: just to go out and lay decking straight over the

432
00:24:55,615 --> 00:24:59,335
Speaker 8: top ninety degrees to your existing one, every intersection would

433
00:24:59,415 --> 00:25:02,815
Speaker 8: have a space of let's say ninety by ninety where

434
00:25:02,855 --> 00:25:05,295
Speaker 8: the two surfaces would be held together, and you'll get

435
00:25:05,335 --> 00:25:10,255
Speaker 8: moisture trapped in their and you'll get decay. Whereas, I'm

436
00:25:10,295 --> 00:25:13,495
Speaker 8: not necessarily promoting this particular product, but from what I

437
00:25:13,575 --> 00:25:17,415
Speaker 8: can see there is it's elevated, which allows for drainage

438
00:25:17,535 --> 00:25:20,815
Speaker 8: and for ventilation. So yeah, it's to be fair, it's

439
00:25:20,855 --> 00:25:22,895
Speaker 8: not a solution that I've ever thought of, but that's

440
00:25:22,975 --> 00:25:28,535
Speaker 8: quite clever. That's out of the box thinking I can't

441
00:25:28,535 --> 00:25:31,575
Speaker 8: see downside to it. I mean, it would be interesting

442
00:25:31,655 --> 00:25:36,655
Speaker 8: to know what when they say synthetic, you know what

443
00:25:36,895 --> 00:25:37,815
Speaker 8: that actually is.

444
00:25:41,135 --> 00:25:44,175
Speaker 13: Yes, I don't know, but it just says it takes

445
00:25:44,255 --> 00:25:47,055
Speaker 13: heat and that there's a certain amount of expansion and

446
00:25:47,135 --> 00:25:47,575
Speaker 13: that word.

447
00:25:48,415 --> 00:25:50,655
Speaker 8: Oh no, it is a timber, it's and the good

448
00:25:50,695 --> 00:25:55,375
Speaker 8: thing is it's FSC. So this is the Forest Stewardship Council.

449
00:25:55,535 --> 00:25:58,215
Speaker 8: This is actually just isn't aside really important if you're

450
00:25:58,815 --> 00:26:03,335
Speaker 8: ever considering buying timber, perhaps from overseas in particular, or

451
00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:08,895
Speaker 8: timber a product that has timber that has sorn and

452
00:26:09,055 --> 00:26:13,535
Speaker 8: sourced overseas. So the Forest Stewardship Council is a worldwide

453
00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:19,535
Speaker 8: organization that you can apply to have your product sort

454
00:26:19,535 --> 00:26:23,335
Speaker 8: of licensed by them or endorsed by them, And in

455
00:26:23,495 --> 00:26:26,055
Speaker 8: order to do so, you need to prove that it's

456
00:26:26,135 --> 00:26:29,375
Speaker 8: been logged in a sustainable manner and that you've met

457
00:26:29,455 --> 00:26:34,815
Speaker 8: certain environmental requirements. So the fact that this item or

458
00:26:34,855 --> 00:26:40,015
Speaker 8: these products actually have FSC registration is good.

459
00:26:41,735 --> 00:26:42,295
Speaker 14: Is a good right?

460
00:26:42,495 --> 00:26:45,455
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, no, it's good in terms of it's good

461
00:26:45,575 --> 00:26:50,375
Speaker 8: that you know the manufacturer has gone to the Forest

462
00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:54,415
Speaker 8: Stewardship Council to seek their approval for the manner in

463
00:26:54,455 --> 00:26:57,615
Speaker 8: which they harvest the timber, because you know, we've all

464
00:26:57,695 --> 00:27:02,975
Speaker 8: seen pictures from South America and from Southeast Asia where

465
00:27:03,215 --> 00:27:08,615
Speaker 8: you know, indiscriminate logging has destroyed enormous swaths of the planet.

466
00:27:08,695 --> 00:27:11,455
Speaker 8: Right now, you don't want to be buying timber from

467
00:27:11,575 --> 00:27:13,295
Speaker 8: people that collect it in that way. You want to

468
00:27:13,335 --> 00:27:18,095
Speaker 8: be buying timber from companies that do some sort of

469
00:27:18,215 --> 00:27:21,135
Speaker 8: environmental management or they're replanting and that sort of thing,

470
00:27:21,175 --> 00:27:24,615
Speaker 8: and only and those sorts of companies will get this

471
00:27:24,935 --> 00:27:30,655
Speaker 8: FSC registration, which I think is really really important. Yeah, look,

472
00:27:31,535 --> 00:27:33,015
Speaker 8: no reason for me to say you can't do it.

473
00:27:33,095 --> 00:27:33,895
Speaker 8: I think it would work.

474
00:27:35,255 --> 00:27:36,855
Speaker 13: Okay, That's that's all I wanted to know.

475
00:27:37,175 --> 00:27:39,095
Speaker 8: To be fair, it's a solution that I hadn't thought of.

476
00:27:39,215 --> 00:27:40,775
Speaker 8: So I like that as well. And if I steal

477
00:27:40,815 --> 00:27:45,575
Speaker 8: your idea, I'll think of you. Thanks a lot, David,

478
00:27:45,815 --> 00:27:51,575
Speaker 8: you take care. That's great. To be fair, it wouldn't

479
00:27:51,615 --> 00:27:53,495
Speaker 8: be the first idea that I've stolen from this program.

480
00:27:53,615 --> 00:27:56,095
Speaker 8: That is the nature of this program. People offer ideas,

481
00:27:56,135 --> 00:27:57,455
Speaker 8: and every now and then I'll walk away and go

482
00:27:58,055 --> 00:28:00,295
Speaker 8: that's a good one. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

483
00:28:00,375 --> 00:28:01,775
Speaker 8: is the number to call. Will take a short break

484
00:28:02,055 --> 00:28:03,935
Speaker 8: back with philp in just a moment you and new

485
00:28:04,015 --> 00:28:05,535
Speaker 8: talks there'd be The lines are open the number to

486
00:28:05,575 --> 00:28:09,775
Speaker 8: call eight hundre at eighty ten eighty and our expert

487
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:13,575
Speaker 8: guest Bryce McDermott from Razine Paints will join us in

488
00:28:13,615 --> 00:28:16,575
Speaker 8: the next hour. So if you've got any specific painting questions,

489
00:28:16,615 --> 00:28:18,735
Speaker 8: feel free to text those through right now to nine

490
00:28:18,815 --> 00:28:21,535
Speaker 8: to nine two and Bryce will be with us in

491
00:28:21,735 --> 00:28:25,015
Speaker 8: the next hour. A couple of other texts with regard

492
00:28:25,055 --> 00:28:27,735
Speaker 8: to the retaining walls pete retaining Could it be the

493
00:28:27,815 --> 00:28:29,855
Speaker 8: person who alters the natural layer of the land. Yeah,

494
00:28:29,895 --> 00:28:32,495
Speaker 8: that's another way of looking at it, but it's I

495
00:28:32,615 --> 00:28:35,695
Speaker 8: think the clearer way of looking at in terms of

496
00:28:35,775 --> 00:28:38,335
Speaker 8: who would be liable for a retaining wall and who

497
00:28:38,375 --> 00:28:40,255
Speaker 8: would pay for one if there's not one there already

498
00:28:40,775 --> 00:28:43,175
Speaker 8: is sort of who gets the benefit of it, And

499
00:28:43,575 --> 00:28:45,455
Speaker 8: obviously who gets the benefit of it is the one

500
00:28:45,495 --> 00:28:48,175
Speaker 8: who's going to alter it for their benefit. So again,

501
00:28:48,255 --> 00:28:50,735
Speaker 8: if you're on the top and you want to level

502
00:28:50,735 --> 00:28:52,735
Speaker 8: out part of your section and you're going to build

503
00:28:52,735 --> 00:28:55,215
Speaker 8: a retaining wool, then you're going to pay for it,

504
00:28:55,335 --> 00:28:57,695
Speaker 8: and it's going to be on your side of the boundary.

505
00:28:58,015 --> 00:29:00,735
Speaker 8: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

506
00:29:01,015 --> 00:29:04,175
Speaker 8: Call Phil A very good morning to you.

507
00:29:05,735 --> 00:29:11,575
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, look, this might be something for Bryce. I

508
00:29:11,695 --> 00:29:14,015
Speaker 7: just he'll be on later on. But I've got a

509
00:29:14,055 --> 00:29:18,615
Speaker 7: Galvani signed roof yep that I was wanting to get painted.

510
00:29:18,695 --> 00:29:22,895
Speaker 7: But I've been hearing them advertising about sealing a roof

511
00:29:23,055 --> 00:29:25,695
Speaker 7: rather than painting it, and I wasn't too sure what

512
00:29:25,815 --> 00:29:28,375
Speaker 7: that was about, or whether one was better than the other.

513
00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:33,015
Speaker 8: Maybe you could help, Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting thing

514
00:29:33,095 --> 00:29:35,175
Speaker 8: that's kind of a It's obviously a new product and

515
00:29:35,255 --> 00:29:43,655
Speaker 8: a new notion around what do we do to protect roofs? Right? Look,

516
00:29:43,735 --> 00:29:46,535
Speaker 8: I've painted any number of roofs over the years, and

517
00:29:47,815 --> 00:29:50,215
Speaker 8: you know, typically what we would do is clean off

518
00:29:50,415 --> 00:29:53,735
Speaker 8: any rust, do some spot prime, applying the Titian primer,

519
00:29:53,815 --> 00:29:55,895
Speaker 8: and then apply a couple of top coats over the top.

520
00:29:56,495 --> 00:30:00,335
Speaker 8: And without a doubt I know that when I have

521
00:30:00,535 --> 00:30:02,855
Speaker 8: done it, or when other people that I've been involved

522
00:30:02,855 --> 00:30:05,575
Speaker 8: with have have painted roofs, it does protect the roof

523
00:30:05,695 --> 00:30:09,455
Speaker 8: and extend it's life, right, which is what it's all about,

524
00:30:10,295 --> 00:30:13,055
Speaker 8: the notion of sealing it is doing exactly the same thing.

525
00:30:13,295 --> 00:30:15,655
Speaker 8: But I think what they're looking at is the application

526
00:30:15,775 --> 00:30:18,615
Speaker 8: of the product. The final coat might be a little

527
00:30:18,615 --> 00:30:20,655
Speaker 8: bit thicker or would be a little bit thicker, so

528
00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:26,415
Speaker 8: we're talking microns here. Ultimately, this is what I think

529
00:30:26,455 --> 00:30:29,775
Speaker 8: it all comes down to is the preparation. Right. So,

530
00:30:30,935 --> 00:30:33,815
Speaker 8: if you've got an old roof which is in poor condition,

531
00:30:34,815 --> 00:30:37,135
Speaker 8: and you're thinking, I want to extend the life of

532
00:30:37,255 --> 00:30:41,335
Speaker 8: the roof and push back that time that you have

533
00:30:41,415 --> 00:30:43,895
Speaker 8: to spend the money and do the reroof, and you're

534
00:30:43,895 --> 00:30:45,455
Speaker 8: looking at it and you're going, okay, well, look what

535
00:30:45,535 --> 00:30:48,015
Speaker 8: I'll do is I'll get it sealed, for example, and

536
00:30:48,175 --> 00:30:50,895
Speaker 8: that will give me more time. It's still going to

537
00:30:50,975 --> 00:30:54,655
Speaker 8: be about the preparation. So you know, you still need

538
00:30:54,735 --> 00:30:56,535
Speaker 8: to remove the rust, you still need to do the

539
00:30:56,695 --> 00:30:58,735
Speaker 8: treatment of the rust. You still need to have an

540
00:30:58,735 --> 00:31:01,735
Speaker 8: adhesion primer, you need to make sure the surface is

541
00:31:01,815 --> 00:31:04,895
Speaker 8: thoroughly cleaned. And then yes, if you apply a sealer

542
00:31:04,935 --> 00:31:08,095
Speaker 8: coat over there that's of ational thickness, it will in

543
00:31:08,255 --> 00:31:12,455
Speaker 8: my mind, that will give you more time. Yeah, So

544
00:31:13,015 --> 00:31:16,175
Speaker 8: I think it's it's always about preparation, and that would

545
00:31:16,215 --> 00:31:20,535
Speaker 8: be doubly true because you know, particularly if the notion

546
00:31:20,735 --> 00:31:25,375
Speaker 8: is that somehow. You know, a viscous material, a liquid

547
00:31:25,455 --> 00:31:28,175
Speaker 8: material is applied over the top and that will address

548
00:31:28,255 --> 00:31:31,135
Speaker 8: your issues with a gulf sized ball hole in the roof, right,

549
00:31:32,255 --> 00:31:34,495
Speaker 8: you know, I don't I don't think that's reasonable to that.

550
00:31:36,215 --> 00:31:39,255
Speaker 8: But if if she was even I was looking at

551
00:31:39,295 --> 00:31:41,175
Speaker 8: my garage roof. So here's me talking about roofs. But

552
00:31:41,215 --> 00:31:43,335
Speaker 8: I've never painted the garage roof because it was always

553
00:31:43,375 --> 00:31:46,535
Speaker 8: my intention to replace it. It's got you know, rust

554
00:31:46,615 --> 00:31:48,855
Speaker 8: all over the top of it. It's not leaking, but

555
00:31:49,055 --> 00:31:52,655
Speaker 8: eventually it will deteriorate. So you know, if I was

556
00:31:52,775 --> 00:31:54,695
Speaker 8: to paint that, I'd want to make sure that I

557
00:31:54,895 --> 00:31:57,695
Speaker 8: got rid of the surface rust, that I applied some

558
00:31:57,895 --> 00:32:00,535
Speaker 8: rust primer to those areas or rust treatment to it,

559
00:32:00,935 --> 00:32:03,255
Speaker 8: and then the adhesion primer and then the top coats,

560
00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:05,095
Speaker 8: and that would be the same all over the place.

561
00:32:06,455 --> 00:32:08,975
Speaker 7: Yeah, because from from what I sort of heard, it

562
00:32:09,135 --> 00:32:12,295
Speaker 7: was it had it was part of it was a

563
00:32:12,375 --> 00:32:13,255
Speaker 7: rubber compound.

564
00:32:13,375 --> 00:32:16,495
Speaker 8: So you know, again it's that it's a viscous material,

565
00:32:16,775 --> 00:32:18,975
Speaker 8: like a thicker material that will go over the top

566
00:32:19,095 --> 00:32:23,175
Speaker 8: and that will work as long as it sticks right,

567
00:32:23,295 --> 00:32:25,815
Speaker 8: as long as it bonds to the surface, And that's

568
00:32:25,895 --> 00:32:29,295
Speaker 8: always about the preparation. So I think if you if

569
00:32:29,335 --> 00:32:31,935
Speaker 8: you were making inquiries about it, the question would be

570
00:32:32,255 --> 00:32:34,295
Speaker 8: how do you do the preparation? How do I know

571
00:32:34,415 --> 00:32:36,815
Speaker 8: that that you know, what are the guarantees that sort

572
00:32:36,855 --> 00:32:37,055
Speaker 8: of thing.

573
00:32:38,375 --> 00:32:40,815
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've seen sort of you know, like on an

574
00:32:40,855 --> 00:32:43,935
Speaker 7: old roof that's been painted. When it deteriorates, you get

575
00:32:44,615 --> 00:32:47,775
Speaker 7: the paint will start to flake, but you can usually

576
00:32:48,495 --> 00:32:50,775
Speaker 7: sort of paint over that. And I was thinking, oh, well,

577
00:32:50,815 --> 00:32:53,615
Speaker 7: if that happened with a something that had a rubber

578
00:32:53,695 --> 00:32:57,415
Speaker 7: sort of coaching on it, then that might be you know,

579
00:32:57,495 --> 00:33:00,415
Speaker 7: the roof might have to be replaced. Then you know

580
00:33:00,535 --> 00:33:03,775
Speaker 7: that that would be much too much of a job

581
00:33:03,895 --> 00:33:06,975
Speaker 7: to sort of see it again, to reprepare it. I suppose.

582
00:33:08,215 --> 00:33:10,295
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there probably has to be a point

583
00:33:10,335 --> 00:33:13,295
Speaker 8: at which you say, look the substrate, the actual metal

584
00:33:13,575 --> 00:33:17,135
Speaker 8: underneath the roof, it has deterior to such a point

585
00:33:17,175 --> 00:33:19,615
Speaker 8: that no matter how much more material I put over

586
00:33:19,695 --> 00:33:22,295
Speaker 8: the top of it, it's still going to need replacement. Right,

587
00:33:24,655 --> 00:33:27,255
Speaker 8: But then it's amazing how long you can eke things

588
00:33:27,295 --> 00:33:30,215
Speaker 8: out for. So again, there's a property that I look

589
00:33:30,295 --> 00:33:32,535
Speaker 8: after which has got it's only a small roof on

590
00:33:32,615 --> 00:33:35,375
Speaker 8: a little lean to at the back of a bricontile unit.

591
00:33:35,855 --> 00:33:38,215
Speaker 8: It had metal on it. It's got very low fall

592
00:33:39,015 --> 00:33:41,895
Speaker 8: ponds with water. I've put so many coats of various

593
00:33:42,055 --> 00:33:45,455
Speaker 8: liquid membranes over the top, but hey, fingers crossed right now,

594
00:33:45,615 --> 00:33:47,495
Speaker 8: it's still weather type, you know. So all I've been

595
00:33:47,535 --> 00:33:49,775
Speaker 8: able to do is just push back that inevitable date

596
00:33:50,215 --> 00:33:56,535
Speaker 8: that I might have to say it's time to replace it. Yeah, preparation, preparation, preparation.

597
00:33:57,815 --> 00:33:58,375
Speaker 6: Just well, I.

598
00:33:58,375 --> 00:34:02,015
Speaker 7: Suppose one thing, Dad, when we got the new roofine

599
00:34:02,015 --> 00:34:04,535
Speaker 7: it was galvanized then, yes, sold just to let it

600
00:34:05,095 --> 00:34:08,655
Speaker 7: you make use of the of the oxidation protection from

601
00:34:08,695 --> 00:34:12,175
Speaker 7: the galvanizing. And I suppose we've done that but probably

602
00:34:12,735 --> 00:34:15,055
Speaker 7: left it, you know, sort of ten years.

603
00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:19,015
Speaker 8: But this is your the roof. Is it galvanized or

604
00:34:19,095 --> 00:34:19,855
Speaker 8: is it zincaloom?

605
00:34:21,855 --> 00:34:25,495
Speaker 7: Some are zinc aloon and some as galvanized. Right, it

606
00:34:25,895 --> 00:34:30,455
Speaker 7: all looks about the same now. So it's got a

607
00:34:30,575 --> 00:34:34,295
Speaker 7: few russ areas I suppose around some of the screw

608
00:34:34,375 --> 00:34:39,055
Speaker 7: and our hold, but yeah, generally it's not too bad

609
00:34:39,175 --> 00:34:41,295
Speaker 7: that it's probably the time it needs some sort of

610
00:34:41,375 --> 00:34:45,095
Speaker 7: treatment on it, just to let a roof oxidize for

611
00:34:45,175 --> 00:34:45,775
Speaker 7: a few years.

612
00:34:45,895 --> 00:34:52,615
Speaker 8: Is that a Well, that's absolutely fine. Yeah, absolutely, Bearing

613
00:34:52,695 --> 00:34:57,055
Speaker 8: in mind that galvanized roofing iron and zincaloo roofing iron

614
00:34:57,175 --> 00:35:02,335
Speaker 8: are two different products, right, and they perform over time differently.

615
00:35:02,455 --> 00:35:06,615
Speaker 8: So again, as it happens when we did the roof

616
00:35:06,695 --> 00:35:08,535
Speaker 8: on our own home and when I did the extension,

617
00:35:08,655 --> 00:35:10,855
Speaker 8: I just wanted zincaloom, right, I just wanted it to

618
00:35:10,975 --> 00:35:14,535
Speaker 8: be and I've left it and I could leave that

619
00:35:14,895 --> 00:35:17,015
Speaker 8: as it is for the forever, right and until the

620
00:35:17,095 --> 00:35:21,575
Speaker 8: roof needs replacing and shivers. It's already almost twenty years old, right,

621
00:35:22,335 --> 00:35:25,735
Speaker 8: and that's zincaloom, right, and I've got no deterioration. But

622
00:35:25,855 --> 00:35:29,535
Speaker 8: that's because it's zincaloom. Galvanized iron works differently because it's

623
00:35:29,575 --> 00:35:33,255
Speaker 8: a galvanized coating to the iron, and so once that

624
00:35:34,175 --> 00:35:38,935
Speaker 8: the corrosion starts to penetrate through the galvanizing gets into

625
00:35:38,975 --> 00:35:43,015
Speaker 8: the actual iron, that's where you'll get rust happening. Okay, Yeah,

626
00:35:43,215 --> 00:35:45,095
Speaker 8: so worth having a bit of a read around the

627
00:35:45,135 --> 00:35:48,935
Speaker 8: difference between galvanized iron and zincloom. There are two different products.

628
00:35:49,735 --> 00:35:52,935
Speaker 7: Okay, And if you went for the painting, that'll be

629
00:35:53,015 --> 00:35:54,735
Speaker 7: the same thing. Again, make sure it's all.

630
00:35:54,695 --> 00:36:00,055
Speaker 8: Preparation, preparation, preparation, absolutely, yeah, always as shortcuts there. Nice

631
00:36:00,095 --> 00:36:02,495
Speaker 8: of you to call Phil. Thanks, you have a great

632
00:36:02,535 --> 00:36:05,135
Speaker 8: day to take care all of this. It is coming

633
00:36:05,215 --> 00:36:07,775
Speaker 8: up eleven minutes away from seven o'clock. We'll be back

634
00:36:07,895 --> 00:36:11,215
Speaker 8: with Tony after the break. You would talk, it'd be

635
00:36:11,255 --> 00:36:13,055
Speaker 8: we've got news coming up top of the hour at seven.

636
00:36:13,095 --> 00:36:15,815
Speaker 8: But right now, Tony, good morning, Good morning, Peter.

637
00:36:15,895 --> 00:36:19,095
Speaker 15: It's good to talk to you again. And you I

638
00:36:19,295 --> 00:36:20,935
Speaker 15: rang you about a year ago and we had a

639
00:36:20,975 --> 00:36:25,095
Speaker 15: flooded house. It's now being bought out Category three and

640
00:36:25,815 --> 00:36:28,255
Speaker 15: I've bought another property, which is good news. I've got

641
00:36:28,295 --> 00:36:31,375
Speaker 15: to move on with my life. And I had a

642
00:36:31,415 --> 00:36:35,935
Speaker 15: building inspection done, but we've purchased it anyway. But there's

643
00:36:35,975 --> 00:36:38,615
Speaker 15: a concrete landing and steps which goes up to the

644
00:36:38,655 --> 00:36:44,575
Speaker 15: front door, and the underneath concrete landing you can see

645
00:36:44,695 --> 00:36:50,055
Speaker 15: all of the reinforcing has become exposed. And when they

646
00:36:50,095 --> 00:36:52,695
Speaker 15: did a building inspection, they said to me, water has

647
00:36:52,775 --> 00:36:57,895
Speaker 15: been penetrating through the concrete, causing the rust in the steel,

648
00:36:58,375 --> 00:37:02,615
Speaker 15: and then then some of the not much just like

649
00:37:02,735 --> 00:37:06,175
Speaker 15: the surface of the concrete has fallen away. Now he's

650
00:37:06,335 --> 00:37:09,375
Speaker 15: suggestion was that I needed to take all of the paint.

651
00:37:09,455 --> 00:37:12,375
Speaker 15: That's because it's fifty one years oldest house, take all

652
00:37:12,375 --> 00:37:15,895
Speaker 15: the paint off the landing, and then put a he said,

653
00:37:16,375 --> 00:37:19,735
Speaker 15: a good quality celant on and then obviously paint it

654
00:37:19,815 --> 00:37:22,095
Speaker 15: over the top. But I haven't got a clue what

655
00:37:22,255 --> 00:37:23,935
Speaker 15: sort of product put on there.

656
00:37:24,055 --> 00:37:28,655
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, that's that's reasonably sound advice. So

657
00:37:29,775 --> 00:37:32,175
Speaker 8: how many like how big is the stairs? Is it

658
00:37:32,295 --> 00:37:33,775
Speaker 8: like two steps up to the front.

659
00:37:33,575 --> 00:37:36,375
Speaker 15: Door or I know there's about the steps seem to

660
00:37:36,455 --> 00:37:38,215
Speaker 15: be all right, there's about ten.

661
00:37:38,175 --> 00:37:40,375
Speaker 8: Steps, okay, all right, so that's great.

662
00:37:40,575 --> 00:37:42,775
Speaker 15: And then you've got this landing, which is a normal

663
00:37:42,855 --> 00:37:46,335
Speaker 15: sized concrete landing. When it goes penetrates just into a

664
00:37:46,455 --> 00:37:49,615
Speaker 15: recess for the front door, and it's the area underneath

665
00:37:49,655 --> 00:37:54,375
Speaker 15: where the steels exposed is about about a foot by a.

666
00:37:54,375 --> 00:38:01,055
Speaker 8: Foot, right, okay, all right, Well, look I think treating

667
00:38:01,215 --> 00:38:03,535
Speaker 8: the corrosion would be a good idea as well.

668
00:38:03,975 --> 00:38:05,255
Speaker 15: So what's oh yeah, I'm trying to do that.

669
00:38:05,455 --> 00:38:09,455
Speaker 8: Yeah right, great, okay, so you kind of strip back

670
00:38:09,455 --> 00:38:14,695
Speaker 8: any loose material and then treat the corrosion, so a

671
00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:17,695
Speaker 8: rust converter and then some russ primer. Then you'll need

672
00:38:17,735 --> 00:38:21,055
Speaker 8: to do some patching, so you'll need a sementitious based

673
00:38:21,135 --> 00:38:24,575
Speaker 8: product that you can use with some adhesion to patch

674
00:38:24,655 --> 00:38:27,695
Speaker 8: the area and make the steps and the rises smooth again.

675
00:38:28,695 --> 00:38:30,815
Speaker 15: And then so what is a semious?

676
00:38:30,935 --> 00:38:31,055
Speaker 6: Oh?

677
00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:35,175
Speaker 8: So, like there's there's lots of products. They're almost like

678
00:38:35,215 --> 00:38:37,935
Speaker 8: a powder that you can mix up now that are

679
00:38:38,055 --> 00:38:42,775
Speaker 8: designed for repairing masonry. Right, so if you've got gaps

680
00:38:42,855 --> 00:38:46,415
Speaker 8: and cracks and masonry, you can use different products. Typically

681
00:38:46,495 --> 00:38:49,495
Speaker 8: they're either Seeker or see Mix and so on. Are

682
00:38:49,575 --> 00:38:52,735
Speaker 8: two brand names that do this sort of thing. Then

683
00:38:53,855 --> 00:38:55,975
Speaker 8: so are they painted at the moment or are they

684
00:38:56,455 --> 00:38:58,615
Speaker 8: just exposed painted?

685
00:38:58,695 --> 00:39:01,815
Speaker 15: The steps are not painted, it's the top landings painted

686
00:39:02,015 --> 00:39:07,335
Speaker 15: and it's like the paints cracked. I would say it's

687
00:39:07,375 --> 00:39:09,695
Speaker 15: a good ten years since thenybody painted it at least

688
00:39:10,135 --> 00:39:12,575
Speaker 15: and then obviously water's got in under the paint and

689
00:39:12,735 --> 00:39:13,615
Speaker 15: some of it's blistered.

690
00:39:13,775 --> 00:39:13,975
Speaker 11: Yeap.

691
00:39:15,775 --> 00:39:18,255
Speaker 15: Would I take all the paint off completely, like put

692
00:39:18,295 --> 00:39:18,935
Speaker 15: a grind on it?

693
00:39:19,295 --> 00:39:23,255
Speaker 8: I probably would, because of course, what you know, inevitably

694
00:39:23,295 --> 00:39:28,935
Speaker 8: what happens is the paint deteriorates with the paint surface

695
00:39:28,975 --> 00:39:34,415
Speaker 8: deteriorates and loses its grip. On the concrete below. So

696
00:39:34,535 --> 00:39:36,735
Speaker 8: if you just supply paint over the top of paint

697
00:39:36,815 --> 00:39:38,095
Speaker 8: that might flake off later on.

698
00:39:38,655 --> 00:39:40,295
Speaker 15: Then yeah, that's my thinking.

699
00:39:40,495 --> 00:39:44,215
Speaker 8: Yeah, saying that if and I've only got thirty seconds,

700
00:39:44,255 --> 00:39:48,215
Speaker 8: So if if the paint doesn't come off, let's say,

701
00:39:48,215 --> 00:39:50,615
Speaker 8: if you hit it with a tungsten scraper or some

702
00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:53,495
Speaker 8: coarse sand paper or something like that, then it's probably

703
00:39:53,615 --> 00:39:56,535
Speaker 8: sound enough. But you would need a primer that will

704
00:39:56,615 --> 00:40:01,015
Speaker 8: adhere to the existing paint and also penetrate your new masonry,

705
00:40:01,015 --> 00:40:04,175
Speaker 8: which will be a pigmented seiler. And then you could

706
00:40:04,335 --> 00:40:07,135
Speaker 8: use paving paint over the top of the and then

707
00:40:07,295 --> 00:40:09,615
Speaker 8: I would add some grip to that to make sure

708
00:40:09,655 --> 00:40:14,215
Speaker 8: that it doesn't get slippery. But stay tuned for with Bryce,

709
00:40:14,295 --> 00:40:16,535
Speaker 8: we'll talk about that as well. We are back with

710
00:40:17,015 --> 00:40:20,015
Speaker 8: after the new sport and weather. Remember Painting Expert next.

711
00:40:19,895 --> 00:40:50,975
Speaker 16: Hour, Yvonne wobblock Crown because the charge Jesus cousin lies

712
00:40:51,135 --> 00:40:51,935
Speaker 16: the may.

713
00:40:54,735 --> 00:41:00,015
Speaker 4: Then he sends him to the final school and RDIO.

714
00:41:00,135 --> 00:41:02,055
Speaker 8: Welcome back to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp.

715
00:41:02,135 --> 00:41:04,975
Speaker 8: This is the resident builder on Sunday. We are here

716
00:41:05,095 --> 00:41:08,295
Speaker 8: to talk about your projects, about your house in the

717
00:41:08,375 --> 00:41:11,495
Speaker 8: nicest possible way, of course, I think tasks that you

718
00:41:11,615 --> 00:41:13,655
Speaker 8: might want to do, tasks that you might want to

719
00:41:13,775 --> 00:41:15,895
Speaker 8: get others to do. So we're talking about, you know,

720
00:41:16,095 --> 00:41:18,895
Speaker 8: the sort of the difference between ceiling roof ceiling and

721
00:41:19,095 --> 00:41:22,215
Speaker 8: roof painting. Earlier on, just before the break there, Tony

722
00:41:22,735 --> 00:41:25,335
Speaker 8: with a set of concrete stairs that have had a

723
00:41:25,495 --> 00:41:28,615
Speaker 8: bit of deterioration over time. So again, you know, if

724
00:41:28,695 --> 00:41:33,695
Speaker 8: moisture gets into and I'm sure engineers describe it differently,

725
00:41:33,775 --> 00:41:37,175
Speaker 8: but the common phrase is what we call concrete cancer,

726
00:41:38,215 --> 00:41:42,255
Speaker 8: where moisture has got through the surface of the masonry

727
00:41:42,255 --> 00:41:46,615
Speaker 8: because masonry is always typically slightly porous, and it's the

728
00:41:46,695 --> 00:41:50,895
Speaker 8: moisture has absorbed far enough into the masonry to then

729
00:41:51,015 --> 00:41:55,415
Speaker 8: activate rust in the steel and the steel reinforcing that

730
00:41:55,615 --> 00:41:58,735
Speaker 8: then as it starts to starts to expand slightly and

731
00:41:58,855 --> 00:42:03,175
Speaker 8: it pushes the masonry surface off, and that typically happens

732
00:42:03,175 --> 00:42:06,695
Speaker 8: if the reinforcing is too close to the surface of

733
00:42:06,935 --> 00:42:10,975
Speaker 8: the concrete. So if you're doing you know, foundations, for example,

734
00:42:11,455 --> 00:42:14,615
Speaker 8: then typically the inspector will check that you're reinforcing's not

735
00:42:14,775 --> 00:42:20,575
Speaker 8: sitting on the ground right, especially in foundations for houses

736
00:42:20,615 --> 00:42:22,055
Speaker 8: and something you want to have that I think it's

737
00:42:22,095 --> 00:42:24,655
Speaker 8: typically seventy five millimeters up. You want to make sure

738
00:42:24,655 --> 00:42:27,575
Speaker 8: that you're reinforcing is fifty mili in from the edge

739
00:42:27,615 --> 00:42:29,495
Speaker 8: of the concrete, whether that's in the ground or in

740
00:42:29,575 --> 00:42:32,535
Speaker 8: a wall, etc. Etc. There are rules around this to

741
00:42:32,695 --> 00:42:36,775
Speaker 8: prevent what is exactly has happened at Tony's place, saying

742
00:42:36,855 --> 00:42:40,095
Speaker 8: that not a significant issue for Tony. It's relatively minor.

743
00:42:40,215 --> 00:42:42,535
Speaker 8: But treat the rust to the patch, apply a new

744
00:42:42,575 --> 00:42:44,295
Speaker 8: coat of paint over the top. And the grit that

745
00:42:44,375 --> 00:42:50,215
Speaker 8: I'm talking about is I've done it on concrete stairs

746
00:42:50,335 --> 00:42:54,055
Speaker 8: leading up to entrance ways and landings. Is if you

747
00:42:54,215 --> 00:42:57,775
Speaker 8: just paint concrete, typically it gets quite slippery. So I

748
00:42:58,015 --> 00:43:01,255
Speaker 8: do the adhesion primer. I do a first coat, then

749
00:43:01,295 --> 00:43:04,935
Speaker 8: I mix up some paint and I make it into

750
00:43:04,975 --> 00:43:08,015
Speaker 8: a slurry with some in it, and then I'll paint

751
00:43:08,095 --> 00:43:10,895
Speaker 8: the surface of the stair where you're putting your foot

752
00:43:11,335 --> 00:43:13,615
Speaker 8: with the paint that's got some grit in it, which

753
00:43:13,735 --> 00:43:16,215
Speaker 8: means that it's a little bit more slip resistant, which

754
00:43:16,255 --> 00:43:19,135
Speaker 8: is really important. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

755
00:43:19,375 --> 00:43:25,215
Speaker 8: the number. Call cricky. People aren't liking the music today,

756
00:43:26,415 --> 00:43:28,775
Speaker 8: Thank goodness. It's not a music show. Eh, it's a

757
00:43:28,815 --> 00:43:31,775
Speaker 8: building show. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number?

758
00:43:31,855 --> 00:43:33,735
Speaker 8: Call quick couple of texts actually before we go to

759
00:43:33,815 --> 00:43:37,055
Speaker 8: the calls, PETE, what house size or what size house

760
00:43:37,095 --> 00:43:38,935
Speaker 8: is permitted without a permit? Zero?

761
00:43:40,335 --> 00:43:40,495
Speaker 6: Right?

762
00:43:40,855 --> 00:43:43,455
Speaker 8: You can't build a house without a permit right now.

763
00:43:44,975 --> 00:43:49,335
Speaker 8: And it's slightly worrying in the sector that people think

764
00:43:49,415 --> 00:43:53,215
Speaker 8: that what is being talked about is actually law at

765
00:43:53,255 --> 00:43:56,375
Speaker 8: the moment it is not. You need a building consent

766
00:43:56,495 --> 00:44:02,215
Speaker 8: to build a house. End of story. And then another

767
00:44:02,295 --> 00:44:05,975
Speaker 8: question with upgrading a bathroom which has a toilet that

768
00:44:06,095 --> 00:44:08,775
Speaker 8: is entered from the inside, we are unable to find

769
00:44:08,775 --> 00:44:11,935
Speaker 8: a replacement for the same type of system. Any suggestions.

770
00:44:12,335 --> 00:44:15,895
Speaker 8: So typically, if you go back to thinking sort of

771
00:44:15,975 --> 00:44:20,455
Speaker 8: nineteen seventy ish, often toilets will have a e vent

772
00:44:20,655 --> 00:44:24,735
Speaker 8: that comes from the system itself, right, so that the

773
00:44:26,455 --> 00:44:29,415
Speaker 8: basically air is allowed to be drawn into the system

774
00:44:30,055 --> 00:44:33,655
Speaker 8: via a duct or an opening in the side of

775
00:44:33,695 --> 00:44:36,655
Speaker 8: the system that is vented to the outside. Now we

776
00:44:36,735 --> 00:44:39,655
Speaker 8: don't do that anymore. We tend to vent the entire

777
00:44:40,095 --> 00:44:43,815
Speaker 8: drainage system so that individual toilets don't have their own vents.

778
00:44:44,175 --> 00:44:46,175
Speaker 8: So I think the answer to your question there, Dave,

779
00:44:46,335 --> 00:44:49,055
Speaker 8: is that when your plumber comes to replace the toilet,

780
00:44:49,575 --> 00:44:52,375
Speaker 8: they will need to do some work on the actual

781
00:44:52,575 --> 00:44:56,335
Speaker 8: drainage the wastewater system in the house to provide a

782
00:44:56,495 --> 00:45:00,215
Speaker 8: terminal vent to the system in order to ensure that

783
00:45:00,695 --> 00:45:04,735
Speaker 8: when as water is being sucked out of the traps,

784
00:45:05,255 --> 00:45:07,375
Speaker 8: that air is allowed to come in so that the

785
00:45:07,495 --> 00:45:09,935
Speaker 8: water doesn't get sucked out completely. That's what the terminal

786
00:45:09,975 --> 00:45:12,095
Speaker 8: vent does. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

787
00:45:12,095 --> 00:45:14,735
Speaker 8: the number to call. Lou A very good morning to you.

788
00:45:16,015 --> 00:45:19,575
Speaker 8: Hang on. The fingers don't work. The mouse works, but

789
00:45:19,615 --> 00:45:22,015
Speaker 8: the fingers don't work. Lou Good morning, good morning.

790
00:45:22,775 --> 00:45:24,215
Speaker 7: Good morning, morning preach.

791
00:45:25,215 --> 00:45:26,735
Speaker 15: What can you tell me about bora?

792
00:45:26,895 --> 00:45:27,135
Speaker 11: Mate?

793
00:45:27,695 --> 00:45:34,015
Speaker 8: Bora a small bug typically on the wing about October.

794
00:45:35,015 --> 00:45:35,575
Speaker 13: October.

795
00:45:36,095 --> 00:45:39,815
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's fly spray will kills.

796
00:45:40,695 --> 00:45:43,655
Speaker 8: Oh no, I think I'd go to the hardware store

797
00:45:43,935 --> 00:45:46,935
Speaker 8: and go and get products that are specifically for bora.

798
00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:48,855
Speaker 8: And I mean back in the day, it used to

799
00:45:48,895 --> 00:45:51,695
Speaker 8: be bora bombs that you lit right, Do you remember those?

800
00:45:53,015 --> 00:45:53,215
Speaker 6: Yeah?

801
00:45:53,335 --> 00:45:57,215
Speaker 8: Yeah, alright, they don't exist anymore, thankfully, because they can

802
00:45:57,295 --> 00:46:00,615
Speaker 8: be quite explosive. Well, I do have a funny story

803
00:46:00,655 --> 00:46:02,895
Speaker 8: to tell about those, but I probably won't tell it

804
00:46:03,015 --> 00:46:09,535
Speaker 8: on the radio. So you can buy either injected systems now.

805
00:46:09,655 --> 00:46:12,735
Speaker 8: So if you if you're trying to treat individual borer,

806
00:46:13,095 --> 00:46:15,975
Speaker 8: let's say in a piece of furniture, you can go

807
00:46:16,215 --> 00:46:23,135
Speaker 8: with a nozzle and inject borer killer basically into individual openings,

808
00:46:23,735 --> 00:46:26,615
Speaker 8: or you can use a sort of a more extensive treatment,

809
00:46:26,695 --> 00:46:29,335
Speaker 8: which is like an aerosol can that you'll put into

810
00:46:29,375 --> 00:46:32,415
Speaker 8: an enclosed space and just release that and try and

811
00:46:32,495 --> 00:46:35,255
Speaker 8: treat them. But typically listening to RID for all of

812
00:46:35,335 --> 00:46:39,575
Speaker 8: these years, borer are on the wing around September October,

813
00:46:39,775 --> 00:46:41,055
Speaker 8: so possibly a little.

814
00:46:40,895 --> 00:46:46,095
Speaker 11: Bit late, right now, Alkova, Alko, Yeah, good.

815
00:46:47,535 --> 00:46:51,775
Speaker 8: And look, while like I've seen, I've seen some timber

816
00:46:51,855 --> 00:46:56,575
Speaker 8: that has decayed to the point of collapse right from bora,

817
00:46:56,975 --> 00:47:00,535
Speaker 8: but it's it is relatively uncommon, and it's it's not

818
00:47:00,695 --> 00:47:03,175
Speaker 8: as much of an issue now because obviously in the

819
00:47:03,255 --> 00:47:06,735
Speaker 8: last forty odd years we've been using treated timber and

820
00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:13,095
Speaker 8: timber treatment that's designed to prevent insects from making a

821
00:47:13,135 --> 00:47:15,815
Speaker 8: home in it. So it'll it'll be older timber that's

822
00:47:15,815 --> 00:47:16,255
Speaker 8: an issue.

823
00:47:18,295 --> 00:47:19,375
Speaker 6: Okay, Pete, Yeah.

824
00:47:19,375 --> 00:47:21,935
Speaker 8: Okay, all best you lou, thank you you have a

825
00:47:21,975 --> 00:47:24,175
Speaker 8: great day. All of best. Oh eight hundred and eighty

826
00:47:24,215 --> 00:47:27,695
Speaker 8: ten eighty the number to call. Remember any specific painting

827
00:47:27,815 --> 00:47:31,375
Speaker 8: questions send them through text to nine to ninety two

828
00:47:31,535 --> 00:47:34,055
Speaker 8: and Bryce, our painting expert, will be with us at

829
00:47:34,135 --> 00:47:37,055
Speaker 8: around seven forty five this morning. Cody, you're very good

830
00:47:37,055 --> 00:47:37,535
Speaker 8: morning to you.

831
00:47:38,935 --> 00:47:42,615
Speaker 3: Good morning, Peter, good morning. I'll describe the layout of

832
00:47:42,735 --> 00:47:45,535
Speaker 3: the house before I ask the question if I made

833
00:47:45,655 --> 00:47:51,055
Speaker 3: sure we have a small guarade, the sidewall of which

834
00:47:51,655 --> 00:47:54,695
Speaker 3: forms this is attached to the sidewall of the house,

835
00:47:55,735 --> 00:47:58,775
Speaker 3: so that the side door of the house as it

836
00:47:58,935 --> 00:48:04,455
Speaker 3: comes down makes the roof of the roof of the garage.

837
00:48:05,455 --> 00:48:09,495
Speaker 3: The side wall of the house was repaired with weather board,

838
00:48:10,135 --> 00:48:14,615
Speaker 3: and I want to law how far away from the

839
00:48:14,895 --> 00:48:19,135
Speaker 3: roof of the guarages would be the law border of

840
00:48:19,335 --> 00:48:20,215
Speaker 3: the weather boards.

841
00:48:23,175 --> 00:48:26,415
Speaker 8: So the door has been taken out and replaced with.

842
00:48:26,495 --> 00:48:32,535
Speaker 3: Weatherboards the wall that part of the wall was damaged

843
00:48:32,575 --> 00:48:38,575
Speaker 3: weather boards. Yes, and as you come down it is

844
00:48:39,575 --> 00:48:44,255
Speaker 3: very close to the roof of the small garage which

845
00:48:44,375 --> 00:48:45,215
Speaker 3: is attached to.

846
00:48:45,255 --> 00:48:49,255
Speaker 8: The house, right, okay, yes, And then where that junction

847
00:48:49,495 --> 00:48:51,895
Speaker 8: is between the roof of the garage and the house,

848
00:48:52,535 --> 00:48:55,815
Speaker 8: is there a flashing on top of the roof, and

849
00:48:56,015 --> 00:49:01,655
Speaker 8: then the weatherboards come down and stop above that flashing. Correct, Okay,

850
00:49:02,255 --> 00:49:05,775
Speaker 8: Typically we'd aim to have a gap there of about well,

851
00:49:06,375 --> 00:49:09,055
Speaker 8: it can be as little as twenty to thirty millimeters,

852
00:49:09,175 --> 00:49:12,015
Speaker 8: but it should be something like that. It should be

853
00:49:12,015 --> 00:49:14,615
Speaker 8: a gap of about at least twenty to thirty milimeters

854
00:49:14,695 --> 00:49:18,095
Speaker 8: to allow for airflow, right, because what we don't want

855
00:49:18,135 --> 00:49:20,455
Speaker 8: to do is bring our weather boards down hard on

856
00:49:20,575 --> 00:49:22,815
Speaker 8: top of the flashing and then it traps water in

857
00:49:22,895 --> 00:49:26,495
Speaker 8: there and then it soaks up into the cuttage of

858
00:49:26,535 --> 00:49:29,455
Speaker 8: the weather board sometimes and that will accelerate decay.

859
00:49:30,775 --> 00:49:33,335
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in my concern. I'm not a builder, but

860
00:49:33,535 --> 00:49:38,775
Speaker 3: a general common senses that weatherboard is in contact with

861
00:49:38,935 --> 00:49:42,255
Speaker 3: this flashing, it will be in contact with water and

862
00:49:42,415 --> 00:49:43,215
Speaker 3: the course damage.

863
00:49:43,535 --> 00:49:47,095
Speaker 8: No, it shouldn't be so ideally, you know, twenty to

864
00:49:47,215 --> 00:49:52,615
Speaker 8: thirty milimeters will prevent that, but you know even ten

865
00:49:52,695 --> 00:49:55,415
Speaker 8: milimeters will, But anything less than that and you're likely

866
00:49:55,535 --> 00:49:58,175
Speaker 8: to get water that's trapped there and soaks up into

867
00:49:58,215 --> 00:49:58,615
Speaker 8: the timber.

868
00:50:00,055 --> 00:50:05,655
Speaker 3: Yeah. How can I get a building inspector to come

869
00:50:05,775 --> 00:50:09,255
Speaker 3: and do you report on this? How do I set

870
00:50:09,295 --> 00:50:09,695
Speaker 3: about that?

871
00:50:09,855 --> 00:50:09,895
Speaker 5: So?

872
00:50:10,855 --> 00:50:14,135
Speaker 8: Was this work done? Did you and did someone come

873
00:50:14,175 --> 00:50:16,615
Speaker 8: and do the work? And now you've realized that it's

874
00:50:16,655 --> 00:50:19,455
Speaker 8: been done like this? Or is this has the is

875
00:50:19,535 --> 00:50:20,695
Speaker 8: this existing work?

876
00:50:22,055 --> 00:50:26,655
Speaker 3: No, this was repaired nine months ago, one year ago.

877
00:50:26,735 --> 00:50:29,495
Speaker 3: But I couldn't have a crosser look right because of

878
00:50:29,575 --> 00:50:31,095
Speaker 3: the risk on the roll.

879
00:50:31,255 --> 00:50:34,135
Speaker 8: Yeah, fair enough too. I would suggest that you go

880
00:50:34,375 --> 00:50:38,695
Speaker 8: back to the contractor that did the work and you know,

881
00:50:38,815 --> 00:50:41,015
Speaker 8: get them to come back and fix it. And the

882
00:50:41,135 --> 00:50:46,295
Speaker 8: simplest thing might be to simply remove that weather well,

883
00:50:46,695 --> 00:50:50,895
Speaker 8: try and pop that weather board out and cut it

884
00:50:51,015 --> 00:50:55,055
Speaker 8: down then replace it. But that's not always that easy

885
00:50:55,135 --> 00:50:57,615
Speaker 8: to do. If it's only three or four weather boards,

886
00:50:57,655 --> 00:51:00,015
Speaker 8: then maybe the contractor has to strip all of the

887
00:51:00,095 --> 00:51:03,655
Speaker 8: weather boards off and replace them. But certainly having a

888
00:51:03,775 --> 00:51:08,615
Speaker 8: gap in there is not suitable. Having no gap it's

889
00:51:08,655 --> 00:51:10,015
Speaker 8: not suitable, sorry.

890
00:51:10,415 --> 00:51:15,695
Speaker 3: Because because of the slope of the restrove that the

891
00:51:15,815 --> 00:51:21,575
Speaker 3: weatherboard come to rest or stand next to it involt

892
00:51:21,695 --> 00:51:26,935
Speaker 3: several pieces of weatherboard because of the stope. So it

893
00:51:27,015 --> 00:51:30,695
Speaker 3: did not removing just one weather board. It has to

894
00:51:30,815 --> 00:51:34,655
Speaker 3: be a series of weatherboard needs to be removed to

895
00:51:35,015 --> 00:51:35,655
Speaker 3: rectify this.

896
00:51:37,175 --> 00:51:39,615
Speaker 8: See again, what I would say is that you know,

897
00:51:39,695 --> 00:51:43,055
Speaker 8: given that the work was done. You instructed a carpenter,

898
00:51:43,415 --> 00:51:45,855
Speaker 8: a builder to do the work about nine months ago.

899
00:51:47,015 --> 00:51:52,415
Speaker 8: Builders should builders should know what the requirements are. Now.

900
00:51:54,015 --> 00:51:56,735
Speaker 8: You know, if the builder can come back and prove

901
00:51:56,895 --> 00:51:59,615
Speaker 8: to you that it meets the requirements of the building

902
00:51:59,735 --> 00:52:03,495
Speaker 8: Code and provide evidence for that, then maybe you need

903
00:52:03,615 --> 00:52:07,135
Speaker 8: to accept that. But I suspect that the per will.

904
00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:14,815
Speaker 8: I suspect that the builder might find it difficult to

905
00:52:15,015 --> 00:52:22,935
Speaker 8: prove that what they've done is compliant. Yeah, I'm just

906
00:52:23,015 --> 00:52:26,695
Speaker 8: looking at a couple of the brand's pages at the

907
00:52:26,775 --> 00:52:33,935
Speaker 8: moment right, So for example, I'm just looking at some

908
00:52:34,055 --> 00:52:36,495
Speaker 8: detail on the brand's website. Now. So Brands is the

909
00:52:36,615 --> 00:52:42,735
Speaker 8: Building Research Association of New Zealand. They provide evidence and

910
00:52:42,855 --> 00:52:48,415
Speaker 8: research to the government around building durability and product performance,

911
00:52:48,455 --> 00:52:51,255
Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. So you know, typical detail here

912
00:52:51,415 --> 00:52:54,535
Speaker 8: is that you've got roofing coming up to weatherboard cladding,

913
00:52:54,855 --> 00:52:58,095
Speaker 8: You've got a flashing and then they are saying you

914
00:52:58,215 --> 00:53:01,495
Speaker 8: need a thirty five millimeter gap to the apron flashing.

915
00:53:01,615 --> 00:53:06,015
Speaker 8: So and I would agree with that. So that's I've found.

916
00:53:06,095 --> 00:53:09,175
Speaker 8: The interesting thing is it took me while we were talking,

917
00:53:09,295 --> 00:53:13,975
Speaker 8: took me what fifteen twenty seconds to find that information online.

918
00:53:14,135 --> 00:53:17,495
Speaker 8: So if your builders saying no, no, no, there's no

919
00:53:17,655 --> 00:53:20,895
Speaker 8: rules around it, or I've done it right, then I

920
00:53:21,015 --> 00:53:23,215
Speaker 8: think they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

921
00:53:24,215 --> 00:53:26,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we had a build a wisiting voice and

922
00:53:26,455 --> 00:53:29,495
Speaker 3: a different purpose covered from about a week ago and

923
00:53:29,655 --> 00:53:31,815
Speaker 3: he put his arms up in horror and said this

924
00:53:31,895 --> 00:53:33,335
Speaker 3: should be thirty five milimeters.

925
00:53:33,775 --> 00:53:35,935
Speaker 8: Well, and that's exactly what I've found on the on

926
00:53:36,055 --> 00:53:38,895
Speaker 8: the brand's website, and it's taken me, you know, a

927
00:53:39,015 --> 00:53:42,775
Speaker 8: minute to find it. So yeah, yeah, I think go

928
00:53:42,895 --> 00:53:45,695
Speaker 8: back to your builder and look if you like, where

929
00:53:45,735 --> 00:53:51,095
Speaker 8: did I I've gone to? If you search flashings brands

930
00:53:51,455 --> 00:53:54,895
Speaker 8: or brand's website and then search for flashings and weatherboards,

931
00:53:54,935 --> 00:53:59,295
Speaker 8: you'll find it print off the pdf. In fact, it's

932
00:53:59,335 --> 00:54:03,775
Speaker 8: in build article one six two. There you go, Build

933
00:54:03,895 --> 00:54:08,255
Speaker 8: article one six two. That information there, the builder comes back,

934
00:54:08,335 --> 00:54:11,695
Speaker 8: you go, here's the documentation. This is what should have

935
00:54:11,735 --> 00:54:13,735
Speaker 8: been done. You haven't done it. I want you to

936
00:54:13,855 --> 00:54:15,735
Speaker 8: do it, and I'm certainly not paying for it. Is

937
00:54:15,855 --> 00:54:18,095
Speaker 8: the way that I would approach it. Cody, thank you

938
00:54:18,215 --> 00:54:20,455
Speaker 8: and good luck with that. It's you know, from a

939
00:54:20,535 --> 00:54:24,175
Speaker 8: trades point of view. It is always disappointing when you

940
00:54:24,215 --> 00:54:26,775
Speaker 8: know we're involved in discussions looking at work that is

941
00:54:26,935 --> 00:54:33,295
Speaker 8: relatively straightforward with that's just done poorly or without lack

942
00:54:33,335 --> 00:54:37,695
Speaker 8: of understanding, And this to me shows a lack of understanding,

943
00:54:37,895 --> 00:54:40,415
Speaker 8: lack of understanding about building science, a lack of understanding

944
00:54:40,455 --> 00:54:45,255
Speaker 8: about you know, basic ways that we build in order

945
00:54:45,335 --> 00:54:49,055
Speaker 8: to prevent to decay. So if you're going to jam

946
00:54:49,175 --> 00:54:53,295
Speaker 8: your weather boards hard down onto your flashing, it's going

947
00:54:53,335 --> 00:54:56,335
Speaker 8: to rot over time. That's why we have a thirty

948
00:54:56,335 --> 00:54:58,535
Speaker 8: five mire gap. It's as simple as that. Oh eight,

949
00:54:58,535 --> 00:55:00,255
Speaker 8: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

950
00:55:00,335 --> 00:55:02,855
Speaker 8: call if you've got building questions, we'll take those. If

951
00:55:02,855 --> 00:55:07,135
Speaker 8: you've got any specific painting questions. Bryce McDermott, our painting expert,

952
00:55:07,175 --> 00:55:09,335
Speaker 8: will join us at around seven forty five this morning.

953
00:55:09,415 --> 00:55:12,175
Speaker 8: So got some good ones already trickier the better to

954
00:55:12,295 --> 00:55:14,895
Speaker 8: be fair. I quite like the tricky ones. Text them

955
00:55:14,935 --> 00:55:17,935
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956
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960
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961
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962
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964
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965
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966
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967
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968
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970
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971
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Speaker 8: B that'd be me. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

972
00:56:28,575 --> 00:56:33,695
Speaker 8: eighty is the number to call a text message. There's

973
00:56:33,735 --> 00:56:36,215
Speaker 8: no excuse for that, whether or detail. This is referring

974
00:56:36,255 --> 00:56:40,055
Speaker 8: to Cody's call a moment ago. Everything can be googled

975
00:56:40,055 --> 00:56:42,615
Speaker 8: to get the correct information that builders should be on

976
00:56:42,655 --> 00:56:45,015
Speaker 8: a blacklist and there needs to be a fine for

977
00:56:45,175 --> 00:56:50,695
Speaker 8: work like that. I'm in I'm a lab oh been laborer.

978
00:56:51,415 --> 00:56:54,335
Speaker 8: I'm a laborer. I presume been doing this thirty five years.

979
00:56:54,375 --> 00:56:56,175
Speaker 8: And if I come across something I don't know, I

980
00:56:56,255 --> 00:56:58,375
Speaker 8: simply google it. Well, you're right, I mean, that's the thing.

981
00:56:58,455 --> 00:57:01,575
Speaker 8: There is so much good information out there. There's also

982
00:57:01,615 --> 00:57:03,855
Speaker 8: some pretty rubbish information out there. But if you go

983
00:57:03,975 --> 00:57:07,095
Speaker 8: to a trusted source like, for example, brands, then you'll

984
00:57:07,135 --> 00:57:12,055
Speaker 8: find information that's been well researched. And again, what I

985
00:57:12,175 --> 00:57:15,415
Speaker 8: do find useful with some of the brand's documents that

986
00:57:15,455 --> 00:57:17,935
Speaker 8: are available. And this isn't just available you know, to

987
00:57:18,055 --> 00:57:20,735
Speaker 8: me as an LBP or anything like this. I searched

988
00:57:20,735 --> 00:57:24,055
Speaker 8: for it online. Found that detail, like I say, within

989
00:57:24,655 --> 00:57:26,815
Speaker 8: forty seconds or fifty seconds or something like that to

990
00:57:27,095 --> 00:57:31,255
Speaker 8: get the detail is that it's public, it's well researched typically,

991
00:57:32,415 --> 00:57:36,255
Speaker 8: and it's available to all of us online. So that

992
00:57:36,335 --> 00:57:39,615
Speaker 8: whole issue around what distance should you have between cladding

993
00:57:39,655 --> 00:57:42,895
Speaker 8: and flashing? There it is, and also some really good

994
00:57:42,975 --> 00:57:46,575
Speaker 8: pictures as well, and it's all available. Oh, eight hundred

995
00:57:46,615 --> 00:57:48,735
Speaker 8: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call if

996
00:57:48,855 --> 00:57:51,655
Speaker 8: you've got a painting question. We're getting some great questions.

997
00:57:51,695 --> 00:57:54,335
Speaker 8: Feel free to text for a couple more. Bryce will

998
00:57:54,335 --> 00:57:57,375
Speaker 8: be joining us at around calld to seven This coord

999
00:57:57,415 --> 00:57:59,895
Speaker 8: to W eight. This morning, Catherine, A very good morning

1000
00:57:59,975 --> 00:58:00,135
Speaker 8: to you.

1001
00:58:00,935 --> 00:58:05,975
Speaker 5: Oh good morning Page. My toilet is one of the

1002
00:58:06,095 --> 00:58:09,455
Speaker 5: old score ones with the side vents at the side

1003
00:58:09,495 --> 00:58:11,935
Speaker 5: of the bowl. And I just got the tail end

1004
00:58:12,095 --> 00:58:16,055
Speaker 5: of the conversation you had with that people having trouble

1005
00:58:16,175 --> 00:58:18,935
Speaker 5: trying to find a new toilet to six. Could you

1006
00:58:19,095 --> 00:58:23,175
Speaker 5: please just run over sation again from they please so

1007
00:58:23,695 --> 00:58:24,695
Speaker 5: in your situation.

1008
00:58:25,095 --> 00:58:28,655
Speaker 8: And I've seen them, you know, basically in most houses

1009
00:58:28,735 --> 00:58:32,815
Speaker 8: before the nineteen seventies, is my guess. I did a

1010
00:58:32,855 --> 00:58:37,335
Speaker 8: bathroom in a nineteen sixties bricantile unit a couple of

1011
00:58:37,415 --> 00:58:39,535
Speaker 8: years ago, and it had exactly that. It had the

1012
00:58:39,615 --> 00:58:43,695
Speaker 8: old you know, wooden system or wood covered system with

1013
00:58:43,815 --> 00:58:46,215
Speaker 8: a nice copper insert, and you've got a pipe that

1014
00:58:46,295 --> 00:58:49,375
Speaker 8: drops down into the back of the pan, and then

1015
00:58:49,495 --> 00:58:52,175
Speaker 8: out of the side of the pan was another vent

1016
00:58:52,535 --> 00:58:56,455
Speaker 8: that went into the wall and then outside up the

1017
00:58:56,535 --> 00:58:58,215
Speaker 8: wall and out through the roof. I think it was

1018
00:58:58,775 --> 00:59:04,615
Speaker 8: so typically today, when we're doing wastewater systems inside a house,

1019
00:59:05,255 --> 00:59:07,655
Speaker 8: let's say, you know, we typically we know where the

1020
00:59:07,695 --> 00:59:10,695
Speaker 8: connection is to outside, right, so we've got one hundred

1021
00:59:10,735 --> 00:59:13,815
Speaker 8: mil wastewater pipe in the ground, might have a gully dish,

1022
00:59:14,015 --> 00:59:16,815
Speaker 8: and then you'll have a connections that run through the house.

1023
00:59:17,575 --> 00:59:19,975
Speaker 8: One hundred milli line running to a toilet, then a

1024
00:59:20,375 --> 00:59:23,095
Speaker 8: maybe a sixty milli line running to a shower. And

1025
00:59:23,415 --> 00:59:27,215
Speaker 8: it's like a imagine the roots of a tree. Right,

1026
00:59:27,255 --> 00:59:28,575
Speaker 8: you got the tree trunk, and you got all the

1027
00:59:28,615 --> 00:59:32,095
Speaker 8: branches that go to the different fittings around the house.

1028
00:59:32,615 --> 00:59:36,735
Speaker 8: And typically one of those lines will extend past and

1029
00:59:36,975 --> 00:59:40,135
Speaker 8: go up and that one is just open to the air,

1030
00:59:40,855 --> 00:59:45,135
Speaker 8: so that when you use the toilet use a hand

1031
00:59:45,175 --> 00:59:48,655
Speaker 8: basin that's got a p trap on it, air is

1032
00:59:48,735 --> 00:59:51,495
Speaker 8: allowed into the system, which means that the water as

1033
00:59:51,535 --> 00:59:55,135
Speaker 8: it's rushing out doesn't suck all of the water out

1034
00:59:55,175 --> 00:59:59,375
Speaker 8: of the traps. Right, So every basin that we have

1035
00:59:59,615 --> 01:00:02,575
Speaker 8: has a trap below it and that holds water in

1036
01:00:02,695 --> 01:00:05,575
Speaker 8: the base of the trap, and that stops the foul

1037
01:00:05,775 --> 01:00:09,055
Speaker 8: air that's in the wastewater line from coming out in

1038
01:00:09,135 --> 01:00:11,295
Speaker 8: the bathroom. Right, it's the water in the trap that

1039
01:00:11,655 --> 01:00:16,215
Speaker 8: stops the foul vapors from coming into the house. So

1040
01:00:16,695 --> 01:00:20,775
Speaker 8: without a vent, that water will get sucked out. Now

1041
01:00:21,575 --> 01:00:24,295
Speaker 8: that's how we do it today. That's sort of modern plumbing,

1042
01:00:24,655 --> 01:00:27,495
Speaker 8: I guess back then with toilets, and that they vented

1043
01:00:27,815 --> 01:00:31,535
Speaker 8: them individually. You can't buy, to the best of my knowledge,

1044
01:00:31,535 --> 01:00:35,735
Speaker 8: you can't buy toilets anymore that vent individually. So you

1045
01:00:35,855 --> 01:00:41,335
Speaker 8: need to make sure that your your wastewater pipework inside

1046
01:00:41,375 --> 01:00:44,655
Speaker 8: the house has a terminal vent on it. And that's

1047
01:00:44,695 --> 01:00:47,575
Speaker 8: what you've got to talk to your plumber about. And

1048
01:00:47,695 --> 01:00:50,375
Speaker 8: that might just mean that where the connection, for example,

1049
01:00:50,455 --> 01:00:54,055
Speaker 8: to the toilet is is in your instance, is the

1050
01:00:54,135 --> 01:00:56,895
Speaker 8: toilet on a timber floor, a suspended floor, so the

1051
01:00:57,015 --> 01:01:01,015
Speaker 8: drainage connection is accessible and it's below there. Yeah, okay,

1052
01:01:01,455 --> 01:01:04,935
Speaker 8: So it might be that a junction is added underneath

1053
01:01:04,975 --> 01:01:08,095
Speaker 8: the floor penetrate out through the wall and up the

1054
01:01:08,175 --> 01:01:11,095
Speaker 8: outside of the house and that becomes your terminal vent.

1055
01:01:12,175 --> 01:01:14,735
Speaker 8: Great something like that. But you know, this is work

1056
01:01:14,815 --> 01:01:19,975
Speaker 8: that should be done to ensure that the system works properly.

1057
01:01:20,095 --> 01:01:22,495
Speaker 8: And of course this is work that should only be

1058
01:01:22,575 --> 01:01:23,735
Speaker 8: done by a registered plumber.

1059
01:01:24,335 --> 01:01:29,255
Speaker 5: Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, there's a lot of

1060
01:01:29,335 --> 01:01:31,815
Speaker 5: people out there masquerading as plumbers.

1061
01:01:31,935 --> 01:01:34,815
Speaker 8: Yeah. Well again, the great thing with you know, plumbers

1062
01:01:34,855 --> 01:01:37,575
Speaker 8: and electricians and gas fitters and drain layers. Is that

1063
01:01:37,695 --> 01:01:42,055
Speaker 8: they are all registered trades, right, so anyone who is

1064
01:01:42,455 --> 01:01:45,775
Speaker 8: qualified should be able to provide you with their license,

1065
01:01:46,295 --> 01:01:49,335
Speaker 8: and all of their information is provided on a database

1066
01:01:49,415 --> 01:01:52,655
Speaker 8: which you could search. So again, you know, never allow

1067
01:01:52,855 --> 01:01:56,615
Speaker 8: someone who is seemingly masquerading as a plumber or an

1068
01:01:56,655 --> 01:02:00,175
Speaker 8: electrician to come and do what is restricted work without

1069
01:02:00,295 --> 01:02:04,255
Speaker 8: proving their identity. If you don't know them, well that's it.

1070
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Speaker 5: And sometimes even recommend for friends of friends can prove

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01:02:09,095 --> 01:02:10,015
Speaker 5: fatal as well.

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01:02:10,255 --> 01:02:14,335
Speaker 8: So it's always a tricky thing recommending people. And you know,

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01:02:14,455 --> 01:02:16,975
Speaker 8: I obviously I get asked every now and then, you know,

1074
01:02:17,215 --> 01:02:19,535
Speaker 8: and most of the time the people that I recommend

1075
01:02:19,575 --> 01:02:21,135
Speaker 8: do a great job, but every now and then we

1076
01:02:21,295 --> 01:02:26,095
Speaker 8: all make mistakes, right, So it's a bit anyway, that's

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01:02:26,095 --> 01:02:30,015
Speaker 8: another matter, but that basically is the system. So if

1078
01:02:30,415 --> 01:02:35,775
Speaker 8: your older plumbing system has event on on an individual toilet,

1079
01:02:36,015 --> 01:02:38,015
Speaker 8: you just need to adjust the way that the plumbing

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01:02:38,015 --> 01:02:39,015
Speaker 8: has worked out in the house.

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01:02:39,775 --> 01:02:42,895
Speaker 5: Great, I kind of thought that, but these days I

1082
01:02:43,135 --> 01:02:45,095
Speaker 5: like to triple check everything.

1083
01:02:45,975 --> 01:02:47,455
Speaker 8: Put on you too, good on you?

1084
01:02:48,295 --> 01:02:50,215
Speaker 5: Oh well, look you have a nice Christmas?

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01:02:50,455 --> 01:02:53,375
Speaker 11: Thank you? Okay, and thank you?

1086
01:02:53,575 --> 01:02:55,655
Speaker 8: And is it too early to say yeah, I think

1087
01:02:55,695 --> 01:02:58,415
Speaker 8: it has feel. I know it's the first of December,

1088
01:02:58,815 --> 01:03:06,215
Speaker 8: which is scary in its own way. Yeah, it is scary,

1089
01:03:06,295 --> 01:03:09,175
Speaker 8: isn't it first to December already? I just thinking about

1090
01:03:09,175 --> 01:03:10,815
Speaker 8: all those jobs that I wrote down on a piece

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01:03:10,855 --> 01:03:13,975
Speaker 8: of paper that I would get done this year. To

1092
01:03:14,095 --> 01:03:17,135
Speaker 8: be fair, I haven't got a lot of them done.

1093
01:03:17,975 --> 01:03:21,415
Speaker 8: Other things have gotten away, including making giant hats for plays,

1094
01:03:22,215 --> 01:03:23,975
Speaker 8: which worked out quite well. It was quite nice to

1095
01:03:24,055 --> 01:03:27,295
Speaker 8: see that, just in a quiet moment, roll out onto

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01:03:27,375 --> 01:03:30,255
Speaker 8: the stage at the Artea Center. I mentioned last week

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01:03:30,335 --> 01:03:33,015
Speaker 8: that I had spent quite a happy sort of day

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01:03:33,015 --> 01:03:36,335
Speaker 8: in a bit making a giant top hat as a

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01:03:36,615 --> 01:03:40,735
Speaker 8: mad Hatter as in Alice in Wonderland in my workshop

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01:03:41,295 --> 01:03:43,935
Speaker 8: last week, and then I had to make a few adjustments.

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01:03:44,015 --> 01:03:46,615
Speaker 8: To be fair, there was some creative differences, so I

1102
01:03:46,655 --> 01:03:49,455
Speaker 8: went back on the Monday, made some adjustments to the hat,

1103
01:03:49,535 --> 01:03:53,815
Speaker 8: and then yesterday at the Artea Center during National Youth

1104
01:03:53,895 --> 01:03:58,735
Speaker 8: Theater's performance of Alice a Wonderland Music Hall, out rolled

1105
01:03:58,775 --> 01:04:01,415
Speaker 8: the hat. I'm not giving anything away. I'm just saying

1106
01:04:01,455 --> 01:04:03,655
Speaker 8: that if you want to go, there are still tickets

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01:04:03,655 --> 01:04:06,375
Speaker 8: available today. Two shows today and then that's it for

1108
01:04:06,455 --> 01:04:09,255
Speaker 8: the kids, all two hundred and something of them who

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01:04:09,335 --> 01:04:12,175
Speaker 8: are proud of this musical theater. It was great, actually,

1110
01:04:12,215 --> 01:04:14,775
Speaker 8: it was wonderful last night. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1111
01:04:14,855 --> 01:04:16,695
Speaker 8: eighty is the number to call. We'll take a break,

1112
01:04:16,735 --> 01:04:19,055
Speaker 8: then we'll talk to Neville. If you are at all

1113
01:04:19,215 --> 01:04:22,295
Speaker 8: idly curious about the hat that I made, I did

1114
01:04:22,375 --> 01:04:26,655
Speaker 8: put some post pictures up on Instagram. Actually, so if

1115
01:04:26,695 --> 01:04:29,095
Speaker 8: you just search resident builder on Instagram you'll find them

1116
01:04:29,255 --> 01:04:32,455
Speaker 8: there me working away on the giant hat. It's a

1117
01:04:32,495 --> 01:04:34,975
Speaker 8: lot of fun. Actually, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1118
01:04:35,175 --> 01:04:40,455
Speaker 8: the number to call. Neville. Greetings, Hi, Peter, how Neville? Good,

1119
01:04:40,455 --> 01:04:40,695
Speaker 8: thank you.

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Speaker 17: I've got a house with a two story house scott

1121
01:04:49,015 --> 01:04:53,215
Speaker 17: block basement, and then it's got a large window that

1122
01:04:53,335 --> 01:04:59,575
Speaker 17: goes right up to the apex, and the window is

1123
01:04:59,775 --> 01:05:04,055
Speaker 17: writting out down the bottom right. It's also cancidly that

1124
01:05:04,255 --> 01:05:06,295
Speaker 17: over the block work.

1125
01:05:06,535 --> 01:05:09,295
Speaker 8: Yes a foot and then you've.

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01:05:09,215 --> 01:05:13,895
Speaker 17: Got a deck which is coming through the bottom. The

1127
01:05:14,055 --> 01:05:17,255
Speaker 17: bearers are coming through and meeting the bearers of the house,

1128
01:05:19,015 --> 01:05:27,975
Speaker 17: which has caused all the rotting. Right yep, there's two

1129
01:05:28,135 --> 01:05:34,215
Speaker 17: beams going through the roof that is parallel with the ridge.

1130
01:05:35,895 --> 01:05:39,615
Speaker 17: Ridge line and they're held up in the middle of

1131
01:05:39,815 --> 01:05:44,975
Speaker 17: the living room with two posts and then it goes

1132
01:05:45,015 --> 01:05:50,135
Speaker 17: to the other side above the window. So I've had

1133
01:05:50,175 --> 01:05:52,695
Speaker 17: Address to a look at about a year ago, and

1134
01:05:52,855 --> 01:05:57,615
Speaker 17: he took too long to do anything about your record.

1135
01:05:57,655 --> 01:06:00,255
Speaker 17: He couldn't get the engineer to sort of want to

1136
01:06:00,295 --> 01:06:04,895
Speaker 17: look at it, so it sort of.

1137
01:06:05,055 --> 01:06:12,175
Speaker 8: Sat here and yeah, that's all right. I mean, I'm

1138
01:06:12,215 --> 01:06:16,455
Speaker 8: pleased that you've engaged a professional, so to speak, because

1139
01:06:16,935 --> 01:06:19,975
Speaker 8: you know, it sounds like the scope of the repair

1140
01:06:20,415 --> 01:06:24,575
Speaker 8: is slightly beyond just a repair in terms of you've

1141
01:06:24,655 --> 01:06:29,815
Speaker 8: now got to move into that remediation phase. And you know,

1142
01:06:29,935 --> 01:06:32,855
Speaker 8: one of the things that I guess in modern building

1143
01:06:33,215 --> 01:06:36,455
Speaker 8: methodology we spend a lot of time focused on is

1144
01:06:36,895 --> 01:06:40,215
Speaker 8: moisture ingress for obvious reasons, but also flashing details. And

1145
01:06:40,255 --> 01:06:43,535
Speaker 8: we were talking about that earlier with Cody. So you know,

1146
01:06:43,815 --> 01:06:47,255
Speaker 8: in I'm assuming from what you're saying that the way

1147
01:06:47,335 --> 01:06:49,855
Speaker 8: in which it was constructed in the past, where you've

1148
01:06:49,895 --> 01:06:53,335
Speaker 8: got beams that run from inside the building to outside

1149
01:06:53,335 --> 01:06:57,095
Speaker 8: of the building, that flashing that detail is really critical.

1150
01:06:57,215 --> 01:07:00,615
Speaker 8: Now today you can buy you can either have made

1151
01:07:00,695 --> 01:07:03,615
Speaker 8: custom made flashings or you can buy proprietary ones that

1152
01:07:03,735 --> 01:07:07,415
Speaker 8: allow you to seal that penetration really well. That stops

1153
01:07:07,495 --> 01:07:10,255
Speaker 8: water effectively sitting on top of the beam that can't

1154
01:07:10,375 --> 01:07:13,535
Speaker 8: leavers tracking along the top and going straight inside the building,

1155
01:07:14,615 --> 01:07:17,175
Speaker 8: which is probably what's happened.

1156
01:07:17,935 --> 01:07:21,055
Speaker 17: The thing is that I want to swap out that window.

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01:07:21,535 --> 01:07:24,735
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, bind snyder in.

1158
01:07:24,815 --> 01:07:33,135
Speaker 17: Then whether the existing blocks will take that weight, what

1159
01:07:33,415 --> 01:07:38,215
Speaker 17: has to be done around supporting a larger sort of

1160
01:07:39,215 --> 01:07:43,575
Speaker 17: you know, a full length it's probably about six meters,

1161
01:07:44,775 --> 01:07:45,535
Speaker 17: right window.

1162
01:07:47,655 --> 01:07:51,495
Speaker 8: Okay, that's that's fairly significant. I think, you know, if

1163
01:07:51,535 --> 01:07:54,095
Speaker 8: you've got I'm just thinking about work that you can

1164
01:07:54,175 --> 01:07:57,375
Speaker 8: do without necessarily requiring a consent, versus work that does

1165
01:07:57,495 --> 01:08:00,015
Speaker 8: require a consent. So, for example, if you've got an

1166
01:08:00,055 --> 01:08:04,055
Speaker 8: existing window and you want to change that to a door,

1167
01:08:05,215 --> 01:08:08,255
Speaker 8: typically you can do that without necessarily requiring a consent

1168
01:08:08,935 --> 01:08:12,015
Speaker 8: as long as you don't extend the width of the opening, right,

1169
01:08:12,455 --> 01:08:14,375
Speaker 8: So you can take out the framing below, but you

1170
01:08:14,455 --> 01:08:16,215
Speaker 8: can't extend the width. As soon as you extend the

1171
01:08:16,255 --> 01:08:19,175
Speaker 8: width triggers requirement for building consent. So if that's what

1172
01:08:19,255 --> 01:08:21,335
Speaker 8: you're thinking about doing, you'll need to get a consent.

1173
01:08:23,495 --> 01:08:25,655
Speaker 8: If you're just taking out a window and putting in

1174
01:08:25,735 --> 01:08:28,335
Speaker 8: a set of a sliding door into the existing opening.

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01:08:30,335 --> 01:08:32,775
Speaker 8: I guess doing that amount of work will also allow

1176
01:08:32,895 --> 01:08:36,015
Speaker 8: you to expose those cant leave a jost and assess

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01:08:36,095 --> 01:08:41,015
Speaker 8: their condition. It sounds like if there is significant decay

1178
01:08:41,135 --> 01:08:43,615
Speaker 8: in there, you're probably going to have to replace those,

1179
01:08:43,735 --> 01:08:47,295
Speaker 8: which means replacing timber well back inside the building. That's

1180
01:08:47,375 --> 01:08:50,455
Speaker 8: then a structural issue, So I think I would get

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01:08:50,535 --> 01:08:53,615
Speaker 8: specific engineering advice on that. Have it drafted up.

1182
01:08:53,655 --> 01:08:56,615
Speaker 17: I think the actual house barers are okay.

1183
01:08:56,895 --> 01:09:01,415
Speaker 8: Yeah, in terms of bearing on top of the concrete wall,

1184
01:09:01,495 --> 01:09:05,095
Speaker 8: I think the concrete wall would probably be okay. Again,

1185
01:09:05,535 --> 01:09:09,895
Speaker 8: worth getting specific advice, but typically they're okay. If you

1186
01:09:10,095 --> 01:09:12,215
Speaker 8: needed to, you could solid fill some of it, but

1187
01:09:13,095 --> 01:09:14,015
Speaker 8: typically they're okay.

1188
01:09:14,815 --> 01:09:20,015
Speaker 17: So a slide away then, because you've got high windows

1189
01:09:20,055 --> 01:09:23,815
Speaker 17: as well above right the actual you know you've got

1190
01:09:23,975 --> 01:09:26,775
Speaker 17: like a V yes of windows.

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01:09:27,615 --> 01:09:29,815
Speaker 8: Surely if you were looking at replacing it, you would

1192
01:09:29,855 --> 01:09:33,655
Speaker 8: replace the entire joinery section. So you take out everything

1193
01:09:33,735 --> 01:09:36,775
Speaker 8: that's there, including the V shape or that runs to

1194
01:09:36,815 --> 01:09:40,295
Speaker 8: an apex, and replace it all with a new set

1195
01:09:40,335 --> 01:09:43,615
Speaker 8: of joinery rather than just trying to keep the original

1196
01:09:43,735 --> 01:09:46,935
Speaker 8: windows upstairs more in the upper part and replace the

1197
01:09:47,015 --> 01:09:52,335
Speaker 8: slider downstairs, right, I would have thought, because then you know,

1198
01:09:52,455 --> 01:09:57,215
Speaker 8: if you're trying to put new joinery into existing joinery effectively,

1199
01:09:57,335 --> 01:09:59,855
Speaker 8: then you've also got you know, flashing details that you

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01:09:59,935 --> 01:10:03,375
Speaker 8: have to address there, because what you don't want is

1201
01:10:03,495 --> 01:10:06,535
Speaker 8: that a leak occurs at that junction between you new

1202
01:10:06,615 --> 01:10:09,295
Speaker 8: joinery and your older existing joinery above it, and if

1203
01:10:09,335 --> 01:10:12,415
Speaker 8: you haven't flashed it properly, that's what will happen over time.

1204
01:10:12,975 --> 01:10:16,615
Speaker 17: So this window, like these two beams that are on

1205
01:10:16,735 --> 01:10:22,415
Speaker 17: the outside the roof, they go straight up from this

1206
01:10:22,655 --> 01:10:24,895
Speaker 17: window and they're sitting on the window sill.

1207
01:10:25,935 --> 01:10:30,535
Speaker 8: Right, Okay, look, I think definitely you're going to need

1208
01:10:30,615 --> 01:10:34,895
Speaker 8: to get specific design on this because you know, and

1209
01:10:35,055 --> 01:10:39,815
Speaker 8: I've seen this before sometimes with older construction, where you know,

1210
01:10:39,935 --> 01:10:43,535
Speaker 8: the window itself is offering up support to the structure

1211
01:10:43,575 --> 01:10:46,775
Speaker 8: above it, so you'll you'll have a wall that's literally

1212
01:10:46,935 --> 01:10:51,135
Speaker 8: resting on you know, the mullions of the existing joinery,

1213
01:10:51,335 --> 01:10:53,455
Speaker 8: and when you take that out, you find that actually

1214
01:10:53,575 --> 01:10:57,375
Speaker 8: the lintel is insufficient and it's loading up or it

1215
01:10:57,535 --> 01:11:01,095
Speaker 8: won't take the load of the roof above it. I

1216
01:11:02,015 --> 01:11:04,095
Speaker 8: very much am getting the impression that you're going to

1217
01:11:04,175 --> 01:11:07,055
Speaker 8: need to get specific design and and do that. It's

1218
01:11:07,175 --> 01:11:10,695
Speaker 8: going to end up being I think a fairly significant

1219
01:11:10,895 --> 01:11:13,375
Speaker 8: job by the sound of it. I wish you well

1220
01:11:13,535 --> 01:11:16,655
Speaker 8: with all of that, Neville, good luck, but do get

1221
01:11:16,695 --> 01:11:19,175
Speaker 8: specific design. Thanks for you call. Radio. We're going to

1222
01:11:19,255 --> 01:11:21,375
Speaker 8: take very short break. Do we need to take a

1223
01:11:21,415 --> 01:11:21,775
Speaker 8: break now?

1224
01:11:23,175 --> 01:11:23,335
Speaker 2: Ah?

1225
01:11:23,575 --> 01:11:25,415
Speaker 8: Yeah we can. Okay, let's do that. Then we've got

1226
01:11:25,455 --> 01:11:28,455
Speaker 8: Bryce who is going to answer your painting question straight

1227
01:11:28,495 --> 01:11:32,455
Speaker 8: after the break, Radio, Bryce McDermott, Welcome to the show.

1228
01:11:32,655 --> 01:11:34,495
Speaker 8: As always, lovely to have you with us on a

1229
01:11:34,535 --> 01:11:35,775
Speaker 8: Sunday morning. How are you, Bryce?

1230
01:11:36,455 --> 01:11:37,295
Speaker 14: Not too bad mate?

1231
01:11:37,295 --> 01:11:37,935
Speaker 10: Yourself good?

1232
01:11:38,055 --> 01:11:40,215
Speaker 8: Yeah, not too shabby at all. Actually, thank you very much.

1233
01:11:40,815 --> 01:11:41,215
Speaker 14: That's good.

1234
01:11:41,775 --> 01:11:44,135
Speaker 8: Now we talk about painting, but we should actually take

1235
01:11:44,175 --> 01:11:47,855
Speaker 8: a step back and just go let's do the safety

1236
01:11:47,935 --> 01:11:51,695
Speaker 8: stuff and take a break and just take a moment

1237
01:11:52,775 --> 01:11:55,775
Speaker 8: to think about doing the job safely. Give us some tips.

1238
01:11:56,695 --> 01:11:59,975
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Well, you know, if you're thinking about painting

1239
01:12:00,015 --> 01:12:01,855
Speaker 14: a certain section of your house, you know, you think,

1240
01:12:01,895 --> 01:12:03,375
Speaker 14: how am I going to do this? It's going to

1241
01:12:03,415 --> 01:12:05,935
Speaker 14: get in the way. What could happen to me if

1242
01:12:05,975 --> 01:12:07,775
Speaker 14: I fall all off and all that sort of stuff.

1243
01:12:07,935 --> 01:12:10,055
Speaker 14: You know, don't work at home on your own. Make

1244
01:12:10,135 --> 01:12:14,655
Speaker 14: sure there's somebody homekeeping an eye on you. Especially if

1245
01:12:14,655 --> 01:12:17,255
Speaker 14: you're going to work around where the power into the building,

1246
01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:21,335
Speaker 14: you'll have to have that isolated, yes, or even disconnected.

1247
01:12:21,415 --> 01:12:23,335
Speaker 14: You can contact your power company and they can do

1248
01:12:23,455 --> 01:12:25,015
Speaker 14: that for you. So you don't want to go up

1249
01:12:25,055 --> 01:12:28,775
Speaker 14: and smoke on your holidays, So it's important that you

1250
01:12:29,975 --> 01:12:34,295
Speaker 14: consider that, you know, it's quite dangerous. You've also got

1251
01:12:34,335 --> 01:12:36,735
Speaker 14: to check out your access equipment, you know, and make

1252
01:12:36,815 --> 01:12:40,295
Speaker 14: sure that you've got a reasonable equipment to get you

1253
01:12:40,415 --> 01:12:42,855
Speaker 14: to what you want to do, you know, not Granddad's

1254
01:12:42,855 --> 01:12:44,815
Speaker 14: old ladder that's been sitting in the shed for one

1255
01:12:44,855 --> 01:12:47,095
Speaker 14: hundred years or whatever. Ye you know, you've got to

1256
01:12:47,135 --> 01:12:51,095
Speaker 14: have good safe equipment, you know, good aluminium ladders, scaffolds

1257
01:12:51,255 --> 01:12:53,295
Speaker 14: or what have you, just to get you up there.

1258
01:12:53,335 --> 01:12:55,295
Speaker 14: And it's a lot more fun rather than having your

1259
01:12:55,335 --> 01:12:57,815
Speaker 14: knees tremble while you're up a rickety ladder or something

1260
01:12:57,935 --> 01:12:58,135
Speaker 14: like that.

1261
01:12:59,855 --> 01:13:04,375
Speaker 8: Absolutely. Look, I'll tell a story after the news about,

1262
01:13:04,455 --> 01:13:06,895
Speaker 8: you know, watching a guy tumble from a roof and

1263
01:13:08,255 --> 01:13:10,855
Speaker 8: it's still in my mind. I can still hear the thud.

1264
01:13:11,215 --> 01:13:14,455
Speaker 8: Right to be a graphic and no one wants to

1265
01:13:14,495 --> 01:13:16,655
Speaker 8: be in that situation, So you're absolutely right. You know,

1266
01:13:16,855 --> 01:13:19,655
Speaker 8: check your leads, make sure that that's safe. If you're

1267
01:13:19,735 --> 01:13:23,015
Speaker 8: using power tools outside and they're corded, make sure they're

1268
01:13:23,055 --> 01:13:26,415
Speaker 8: running through a proper RCD to ensure that if you

1269
01:13:26,615 --> 01:13:29,415
Speaker 8: cut the cord or something like that, then you're going

1270
01:13:29,495 --> 01:13:33,535
Speaker 8: to be protected. And you write old ladders, go treat

1271
01:13:33,535 --> 01:13:36,135
Speaker 8: yourself to a new one this Christmas. Because I stood

1272
01:13:36,175 --> 01:13:38,935
Speaker 8: on one the other day whether the aluminium had decayed

1273
01:13:39,055 --> 01:13:42,535
Speaker 8: to the point or deterior to the point where the

1274
01:13:42,975 --> 01:13:46,775
Speaker 8: tread gave way under my foot right, and I was

1275
01:13:48,095 --> 01:13:49,455
Speaker 8: in the end. I just cut it in half and

1276
01:13:49,535 --> 01:13:51,655
Speaker 8: I took it and recycled it. That's the best thing

1277
01:13:51,735 --> 01:13:53,975
Speaker 8: for old ladders. Go and get yourself a ladder.

1278
01:13:54,855 --> 01:13:56,615
Speaker 14: A lot of people don't realize you can just whip

1279
01:13:56,695 --> 01:14:00,055
Speaker 14: the old ladder down to the and they'll give you

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Speaker 14: some money for it.

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01:14:00,975 --> 01:14:03,215
Speaker 8: That's right. In the old days, it was beer money.

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01:14:03,255 --> 01:14:06,015
Speaker 8: Now it's money for a chai late. Right, let's get

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Speaker 8: into a couple of tigs. Fence painting. Hey, I want

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01:14:09,375 --> 01:14:12,735
Speaker 8: to paint a fence black stain or acrylic paint an

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01:14:12,815 --> 01:14:16,695
Speaker 8: opinion on it about maybe warping or cost from Stephen

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01:14:18,175 --> 01:14:21,375
Speaker 8: So beatimber, let's say, and you want to make it black.

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01:14:23,215 --> 01:14:26,295
Speaker 14: Well, in terms of maintenance, paintings that probably the better option.

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01:14:26,535 --> 01:14:28,935
Speaker 14: You know, with stains, they do to tear right after

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01:14:29,015 --> 01:14:31,575
Speaker 14: a couple of years, especially if they're in full sun. Right,

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Speaker 14: So you've got to consider whether you want to spend

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Speaker 14: you know, every couple of years out there repainting your fence.

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Speaker 11: Yep.

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01:14:40,015 --> 01:14:43,375
Speaker 14: Cost wise, there's probably not much in it. But in

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01:14:43,495 --> 01:14:46,655
Speaker 14: the long term, paintings probably the better option because you're

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01:14:46,695 --> 01:14:49,015
Speaker 14: not out there redoing it every couple of years. So

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01:14:49,775 --> 01:14:53,055
Speaker 14: if you're looking at labor, maybe in terms of redoing it,

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01:14:53,695 --> 01:14:59,535
Speaker 14: painting is probably the more cost effective option. And there's

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Speaker 14: a multitude of colors that you can use, but you

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01:15:01,775 --> 01:15:03,655
Speaker 14: know black, you know, you can buy a ten lead

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Speaker 14: bucket of lumbersider and black and put it on the

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01:15:06,415 --> 01:15:07,775
Speaker 14: way you go perfect.

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Speaker 8: So over being timber. Primer first, then top coat.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't know if it's if it's super important,

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01:15:14,535 --> 01:15:18,615
Speaker 14: but if it's freshly canalized and stuff like that, yes

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Speaker 14: I would. I would prime it just to keep the

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01:15:21,855 --> 01:15:25,895
Speaker 14: cannalizing sort of blocked out from the top coats. If

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01:15:25,935 --> 01:15:29,855
Speaker 14: it's painted already then, and you know, in sound condition.

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01:15:30,375 --> 01:15:31,975
Speaker 14: You know, you could just go over the top of it.

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Speaker 14: A fence after all. I mean, it's you know, you

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Speaker 14: do have to do certain sensibilities and things, but it

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Speaker 14: is a fence at the end of the day.

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Speaker 8: Ye perfect right. Someone would like to stain a front

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01:15:44,375 --> 01:15:48,255
Speaker 8: door slightly darker without having to stand it back completely.

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Speaker 8: It has a varnish on top, it's weathered, hoping for

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Speaker 8: a special prime. I think they're hoping for a shortcut,

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01:15:54,415 --> 01:15:55,615
Speaker 8: but I'm not sure that there is one.

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Speaker 14: There probably isn't.

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Speaker 9: Really.

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Speaker 14: We can tint up our water borne polyurethane and with

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Speaker 14: a slight amount of tin by the little bottles tint

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01:16:07,655 --> 01:16:10,575
Speaker 14: that you can pour into it, but it's not really

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01:16:10,695 --> 01:16:15,735
Speaker 14: meant for an exterior situation. If you wanted to change

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Speaker 14: the color, it's I don't think there's much option but

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01:16:19,575 --> 01:16:21,975
Speaker 14: to strip it back and start again, especially if it's

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Speaker 14: deteriorated a bit. You know, you've got staining on the

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01:16:26,175 --> 01:16:30,855
Speaker 14: probably on the door, you've got opaque polyurethane, you've got cracks,

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01:16:30,935 --> 01:16:33,255
Speaker 14: you've got things, all sorts of things. I don't know

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Speaker 14: without looking at the person's door, but you know, it

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Speaker 14: may be more sensible to strip it off, stand it up,

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Speaker 14: stain it to the color you want, and re polyurythane,

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Speaker 14: maybe with a marine vanish.

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Speaker 8: Right over the top. Brilliant. Now this is an interesting

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Speaker 8: one morning. We've had a rat infestation in our ceiling

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Speaker 8: last year, which we've now dealt with. We have had

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01:16:54,175 --> 01:16:57,975
Speaker 8: rat urine stains on some of the ceilings. How can

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Speaker 8: we treat those areas in order to repaint successfully?

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Speaker 14: From Marie hmm, Well, we do have a product of

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01:17:07,895 --> 01:17:10,015
Speaker 14: now is called stain lock that you can you can

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Speaker 14: put on stains on ceilings or stain on paint in

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01:17:12,975 --> 01:17:15,095
Speaker 14: general to can't block it out you know, felt pen

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01:17:15,215 --> 01:17:18,095
Speaker 14: marks and stuff like that. It will absorb the stain,

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Speaker 14: but it won't go any further. And then you know

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01:17:20,775 --> 01:17:22,375
Speaker 14: you could quick try over the top of that and

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01:17:22,455 --> 01:17:26,455
Speaker 14: proceed with repainting, or you could you know, if it's

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01:17:26,575 --> 01:17:28,975
Speaker 14: dry and not too bad and things like that, you

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01:17:29,375 --> 01:17:32,215
Speaker 14: put the good old solvable and sure seal on it

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01:17:32,415 --> 01:17:35,975
Speaker 14: block it out. But yes, I think sure seel or

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Speaker 14: stain lock would be the option.

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Speaker 8: Okay. Now, in terms of quela, for example, like if

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01:17:43,895 --> 01:17:47,255
Speaker 8: you've got a new piece of quila, they're asking how

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01:17:47,335 --> 01:17:49,935
Speaker 8: long do you leave it before putting a coat on it?

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01:17:50,775 --> 01:17:54,615
Speaker 8: M And I guess dress as general for all hardwoods.

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01:17:55,735 --> 01:17:59,015
Speaker 14: Yeah, because you've got the little the tenons and everything

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01:17:59,135 --> 01:18:00,735
Speaker 14: running out of it as soon as it gets wet,

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01:18:01,495 --> 01:18:03,855
Speaker 14: and people like to stop that because it can driple

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01:18:03,935 --> 01:18:06,655
Speaker 14: over the place. And you know, especially if you've got

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01:18:06,695 --> 01:18:09,135
Speaker 14: a deck above a patio below, you up all these

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01:18:09,215 --> 01:18:11,415
Speaker 14: brown stains and nice neat lines everywhere.

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Speaker 5: M hm.

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Speaker 14: Not a great deal you can do about it. Generally,

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Speaker 14: you've got to leave timber or timber decks the weather

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01:18:19,735 --> 01:18:22,935
Speaker 14: for about three months before you can put a stain

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01:18:23,015 --> 01:18:26,375
Speaker 14: on them, just to let them settle, you know, allow

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01:18:26,415 --> 01:18:29,055
Speaker 14: the timber to expand and do its business and just

1365
01:18:29,175 --> 01:18:33,495
Speaker 14: generally settle in and then you can put the We

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01:18:33,615 --> 01:18:35,655
Speaker 14: do have a cooiler decking stain that you can put

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01:18:35,735 --> 01:18:38,295
Speaker 14: on that you know, sort of retains the color of

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01:18:38,335 --> 01:18:41,055
Speaker 14: the coiler, you know, sort of an orange sort of

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01:18:41,135 --> 01:18:45,055
Speaker 14: red color. But yeah, I would, you know, there's not

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01:18:45,135 --> 01:18:46,735
Speaker 14: a great deal you can do about it. I would

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01:18:46,775 --> 01:18:48,375
Speaker 14: just leave it to weather, and leave it.

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01:18:48,415 --> 01:18:52,215
Speaker 8: To weather first and then apply it's.

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01:18:51,575 --> 01:18:55,495
Speaker 14: An issue of it dripping on areas below. Then you know,

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01:18:55,775 --> 01:18:57,855
Speaker 14: just the if it's just going straight onto the ground.

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01:18:57,895 --> 01:19:00,775
Speaker 14: It shouldn't be a problem. But then just after three months,

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01:19:00,935 --> 01:19:02,935
Speaker 14: just you know, give it a code of coiler decking stain.

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01:19:03,815 --> 01:19:05,135
Speaker 14: It's put the instructions and.

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01:19:05,375 --> 01:19:05,855
Speaker 17: Away you go.

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Speaker 8: Now here's a classic. Recently, been painting skirting boards with

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01:19:10,775 --> 01:19:14,415
Speaker 8: an acrylic the painter has touched up the lino as well.

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Speaker 8: Is there an easy way to get in this case

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01:19:17,455 --> 01:19:19,815
Speaker 8: acrylic off the lino floor.

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01:19:21,335 --> 01:19:26,895
Speaker 14: Me misilated spirits will will will soften, and acrylics and

1384
01:19:26,975 --> 01:19:33,175
Speaker 14: things like that. Failing that, we do have a proprietary

1385
01:19:34,015 --> 01:19:37,055
Speaker 14: paint remover latex paint remover as the Americans call it,

1386
01:19:38,655 --> 01:19:43,215
Speaker 14: that will remove acrylic paint off surfaces. So if you

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01:19:43,375 --> 01:19:45,255
Speaker 14: nip into one of our shops and you can. It

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01:19:45,415 --> 01:19:49,135
Speaker 14: comes in a spray bottle, and you know that should

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01:19:49,255 --> 01:19:50,735
Speaker 14: do the trick. You know, you just spread it on,

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01:19:50,935 --> 01:19:52,495
Speaker 14: leave it for a bit and then wipe it off.

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01:19:54,135 --> 01:19:56,375
Speaker 8: I'm writing that down because the number of times I've

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01:19:56,415 --> 01:19:58,375
Speaker 8: had calls from people going, you know, the paint has

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01:19:58,415 --> 01:20:00,455
Speaker 8: been or I've been painting and I've got, you know,

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01:20:00,615 --> 01:20:03,855
Speaker 8: splashes of acrylic paint on aluminium jewelery, for example, how

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01:20:03,895 --> 01:20:06,575
Speaker 8: do I get it off? So this latex paint. It

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01:20:06,695 --> 01:20:07,815
Speaker 8: might be the solution there.

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01:20:08,575 --> 01:20:12,015
Speaker 14: Yeah, but you know, if something's been sitting on the

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01:20:12,055 --> 01:20:15,495
Speaker 14: aluminum joinal for quite some time, you know it's probably

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01:20:15,575 --> 01:20:18,615
Speaker 14: not going to do the trick, right might you might

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01:20:18,695 --> 01:20:20,935
Speaker 14: have to look at some form of solvent like go

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01:20:21,295 --> 01:20:23,455
Speaker 14: our number twelve center or something which is a good

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01:20:23,575 --> 01:20:24,415
Speaker 14: general cleaner.

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01:20:24,535 --> 01:20:28,015
Speaker 8: Sounds good, Bryce, We're right on top of the news. Fantastic,

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01:20:28,095 --> 01:20:31,055
Speaker 8: Thank you you're a News Talks there'd be welcome back

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01:20:31,055 --> 01:20:34,095
Speaker 8: to the show. Bryce mcdommott, our painting expert just before

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01:20:34,215 --> 01:20:38,655
Speaker 8: the news and really appreciate his insights as always. I'm

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01:20:38,695 --> 01:20:40,215
Speaker 8: just trying to think whether that might be the last

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01:20:40,295 --> 01:20:44,175
Speaker 8: show with Bryce this year, because suddenly all of those

1409
01:20:44,255 --> 01:20:48,215
Speaker 8: deadlines are looming, aren't they. You know, December the first today?

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Speaker 8: How many couple more shows? As it happens, I'll carry

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01:20:52,695 --> 01:20:57,175
Speaker 8: on doing Sundays through the Christmas and New Year break.

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01:20:58,215 --> 01:21:00,295
Speaker 8: Looking forward to that. Actually, I'll be working here on

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01:21:00,415 --> 01:21:03,335
Speaker 8: Christmas Day. I'm going to be doing i think eleven

1414
01:21:03,415 --> 01:21:05,975
Speaker 8: to one on Christmas Day, so looking forward to that

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01:21:06,055 --> 01:21:08,695
Speaker 8: as well a couple of other quick painting ones. Just

1416
01:21:08,735 --> 01:21:11,295
Speaker 8: before we move back into the building, Can I paint

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01:21:11,335 --> 01:21:14,055
Speaker 8: the inside of a color steel fence straight away. Yep,

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01:21:14,135 --> 01:21:17,095
Speaker 8: pretty much wash it down, apply an adhesion primer. So

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01:21:17,135 --> 01:21:20,495
Speaker 8: there's a very specific razine primer for that that you

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01:21:20,615 --> 01:21:21,175
Speaker 8: need to use.

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01:21:21,855 --> 01:21:22,055
Speaker 10: Um.

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01:21:23,015 --> 01:21:27,375
Speaker 8: And what's the other one that came Ah, remove roof

1423
01:21:27,575 --> 01:21:32,415
Speaker 8: paint spray that has drifted onto plastic outdoor chairs. I'm

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01:21:32,455 --> 01:21:37,095
Speaker 8: wondering whether that latex paint remover which comes in a

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01:21:37,135 --> 01:21:40,215
Speaker 8: little spray bottle might be the go there. It'll soften

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01:21:40,255 --> 01:21:42,695
Speaker 8: it up and then allow you to scrape it off,

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01:21:42,775 --> 01:21:46,135
Speaker 8: depending on how much there is. I have to say

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01:21:46,215 --> 01:21:53,815
Speaker 8: spray drift from roof painting is a little bit uncommon. Yeah,

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01:21:54,215 --> 01:21:57,135
Speaker 8: that would have been annoying. I would have imagined eight

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Speaker 8: hundred and eighty eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Another quick couple of texts that came through. I live

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Speaker 8: in christ Church. Can I replace my toilet with a

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Speaker 8: composting toilet? I wonder whether the local council might have

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01:22:10,855 --> 01:22:13,335
Speaker 8: some issues around that in terms of if you were

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01:22:13,415 --> 01:22:17,615
Speaker 8: in an urban area, I think you would have to

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01:22:17,815 --> 01:22:21,335
Speaker 8: prove compliance. You'd have to prove that it's not going

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Speaker 8: to inadvertently become a nuisance to your neighbors. In the

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01:22:27,655 --> 01:22:31,455
Speaker 8: same way that something that's sort of come up. I

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01:22:31,575 --> 01:22:35,455
Speaker 8: know Auckland Council, but probably other councils as well have

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Speaker 8: started to introduce sort of a maintenance schedule for septic

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01:22:40,935 --> 01:22:45,655
Speaker 8: tanks as well within the Auckland city boundaries, which is

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01:22:45,735 --> 01:22:49,775
Speaker 8: reasonably large. So people are having to get an independent

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01:22:49,975 --> 01:22:54,815
Speaker 8: assessment and maintenance done of their septic systems. And I

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01:22:54,855 --> 01:22:58,975
Speaker 8: would imagine the same thing would would apply here if

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01:22:59,055 --> 01:23:03,495
Speaker 8: you were doing a composting toilet. Great idea, but it's

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Speaker 8: going to be a christ Church City Council question. Another

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01:23:07,335 --> 01:23:09,055
Speaker 8: quick text that came through love the show Thank You

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01:23:09,175 --> 01:23:11,375
Speaker 8: very Much. I want to repair my old letterbox. The

1450
01:23:11,415 --> 01:23:14,535
Speaker 8: wood is old and cracked. Would putty be enough to

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01:23:14,615 --> 01:23:17,255
Speaker 8: make small repairs to the cracks? The issue sometimes with

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01:23:17,335 --> 01:23:19,175
Speaker 8: putty is if you use too much of it'll just

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01:23:19,295 --> 01:23:24,135
Speaker 8: fall out. So for larger cracks, I tend to use

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01:23:24,575 --> 01:23:28,375
Speaker 8: specific products like repair Care, which is a two part

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01:23:28,815 --> 01:23:32,735
Speaker 8: adhesive and filler so it'll stick to the area, but

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01:23:32,855 --> 01:23:34,975
Speaker 8: also you can use it to build up areas. There's

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01:23:34,975 --> 01:23:36,655
Speaker 8: a couple of similar products out there. The one that

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01:23:36,735 --> 01:23:39,255
Speaker 8: I happen to use is repair Care. In fact, I've

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01:23:39,295 --> 01:23:43,135
Speaker 8: got a job for that shortly where power has been undergrounded,

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01:23:44,095 --> 01:23:46,495
Speaker 8: and so I've got you know, where the large screw

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01:23:46,615 --> 01:23:49,895
Speaker 8: goes into the facier board of an older house, the

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01:23:49,935 --> 01:23:52,775
Speaker 8: big hook that they hang the power on, and then

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01:23:52,815 --> 01:23:55,375
Speaker 8: the junction box with the terminal box that hangs next

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01:23:55,415 --> 01:23:57,695
Speaker 8: to it, and then of course there's the chorus connection

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01:23:57,855 --> 01:24:02,215
Speaker 8: that used to go under overhead has now come an underground.

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01:24:02,215 --> 01:24:04,215
Speaker 8: So I've got to get up there safely. As per

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01:24:04,295 --> 01:24:07,975
Speaker 8: the discussion with Bryce just for the news around working

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Speaker 8: at heights at home. So I've actually got a small

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01:24:10,255 --> 01:24:13,935
Speaker 8: mobile scaffold. I'll take that to the job. Get up there,

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Speaker 8: unscrew these fittings now that they've been deleted, they're no

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Speaker 8: longer live. And then you know, I've got like a

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Speaker 8: ten twelve millimeter hole where the screw fitting when in

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01:24:25,015 --> 01:24:27,615
Speaker 8: for the overhead power line. I'll back that out. Hopefully

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01:24:27,615 --> 01:24:29,375
Speaker 8: i can get that out in one piece, and then

1475
01:24:29,375 --> 01:24:32,855
Speaker 8: I'll use something like repair Care there to fill that hole.

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01:24:33,255 --> 01:24:35,655
Speaker 8: You can also fetch in a new piece of timber,

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01:24:35,695 --> 01:24:37,975
Speaker 8: but the repair Care should do that job all in

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01:24:38,055 --> 01:24:40,495
Speaker 8: One oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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01:24:40,615 --> 01:24:44,455
Speaker 8: the number to call, and Dave a very good morning

1480
01:24:44,495 --> 01:24:48,815
Speaker 8: to you. How are you this morning, Dave. Hello, Dave,

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01:24:49,575 --> 01:24:55,335
Speaker 8: why is that not happening for me? There we go, Dave, greetings, greeting. Sorry,

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01:24:56,055 --> 01:24:57,575
Speaker 8: technical issues on my side.

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01:24:58,535 --> 01:25:00,815
Speaker 10: That's all right. I'll just tear a hole of the

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01:25:00,895 --> 01:25:04,415
Speaker 10: windows replaced with double glazing. Yes, and now that's where

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01:25:04,455 --> 01:25:06,695
Speaker 10: they come and then cut them on the inside and

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01:25:06,775 --> 01:25:08,935
Speaker 10: pushed them out and slide.

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Speaker 8: The new ones and into timber joinery.

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01:25:12,375 --> 01:25:18,455
Speaker 10: Well, on my brick tile aluminium house, it's between the brickworks.

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01:25:18,935 --> 01:25:21,855
Speaker 8: Yes, but there must be a frame that the double glazing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the frame was built into the window, and I

1491
01:25:27,455 --> 01:25:29,855
Speaker 10: think they just slide the new one into place.

1492
01:25:30,215 --> 01:25:32,695
Speaker 8: And the frame is timber or aluminium.

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01:25:34,175 --> 01:25:34,495
Speaker 10: Timber?

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01:25:35,775 --> 01:25:38,655
Speaker 8: Okay, like it was.

1495
01:25:38,855 --> 01:25:44,895
Speaker 10: I guess. My question is on the outside they put

1496
01:25:44,935 --> 01:25:48,015
Speaker 10: a ceiling along the top, but between the brick and

1497
01:25:48,095 --> 01:25:51,095
Speaker 10: aluminium down the sides there is a like a little

1498
01:25:51,175 --> 01:25:56,015
Speaker 10: gap where you can see the cavity behind it. Should

1499
01:25:56,015 --> 01:25:58,735
Speaker 10: there be ceiling? The old ones didn't look like they

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01:25:58,815 --> 01:26:00,455
Speaker 10: had it. I don't know.

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01:26:01,935 --> 01:26:01,975
Speaker 5: No.

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01:26:02,295 --> 01:26:06,855
Speaker 8: Typically, because the way that you know brick cavities work

1503
01:26:06,935 --> 01:26:10,575
Speaker 8: or brickwork is typically done is you've got your timber framing,

1504
01:26:11,415 --> 01:26:13,895
Speaker 8: then you have building wrap. Then you'll have a cavity

1505
01:26:14,215 --> 01:26:16,935
Speaker 8: forty millimeters, and then you'll have your brickwork, and you

1506
01:26:17,095 --> 01:26:19,815
Speaker 8: tend to put the windows in first. This is from

1507
01:26:20,135 --> 01:26:22,935
Speaker 8: new right. You put the windows in first, you flash

1508
01:26:23,095 --> 01:26:27,735
Speaker 8: behind the windows onto the timber framing, and then you

1509
01:26:27,895 --> 01:26:31,855
Speaker 8: bring your bricks up to it. And typically we don't

1510
01:26:32,055 --> 01:26:35,655
Speaker 8: seal a vertical seal a bead of sealant between the

1511
01:26:35,695 --> 01:26:39,415
Speaker 8: aluminium joinery or the joinery and the brickwork, because the

1512
01:26:39,455 --> 01:26:42,775
Speaker 8: small amount of moisture that might get through there enters

1513
01:26:43,015 --> 01:26:46,615
Speaker 8: the cavity and drains out through there. So no, there's

1514
01:26:46,655 --> 01:26:48,735
Speaker 8: no requirement there to fill that.

1515
01:26:48,895 --> 01:26:51,295
Speaker 10: Gap up helpsolute of breathe. I guess two.

1516
01:26:51,335 --> 01:26:54,215
Speaker 8: The wall inside, Yeah, that's certainly part of it. In

1517
01:26:54,295 --> 01:26:56,055
Speaker 8: the same way that you know, at the bottom of

1518
01:26:56,135 --> 01:26:59,175
Speaker 8: the brickwork, you'll find that there is some joints raked

1519
01:26:59,175 --> 01:27:02,055
Speaker 8: out that allows air to enter. And then typically at

1520
01:27:02,095 --> 01:27:05,055
Speaker 8: the top the brickwork stops either a little bit shy

1521
01:27:05,455 --> 01:27:08,855
Speaker 8: of the feet lining or the whatever cladding there is

1522
01:27:08,895 --> 01:27:11,655
Speaker 8: above to allow air to enter at the bottom and

1523
01:27:11,935 --> 01:27:13,775
Speaker 8: vent at the top. That's really important.

1524
01:27:14,255 --> 01:27:14,455
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1525
01:27:14,615 --> 01:27:18,135
Speaker 10: Okay, so because my neighbor, I followed my neighbor, she

1526
01:27:18,215 --> 01:27:20,615
Speaker 10: had it done as well, right, now she said, some

1527
01:27:20,735 --> 01:27:24,055
Speaker 10: other work just recently done, and they've talked to her

1528
01:27:24,215 --> 01:27:27,775
Speaker 10: into ceiling the whole window, and they've gone around ceiling

1529
01:27:27,815 --> 01:27:30,655
Speaker 10: all the windows, all full sides.

1530
01:27:30,735 --> 01:27:34,055
Speaker 8: So again depending on you know, like if, for example,

1531
01:27:34,095 --> 01:27:36,935
Speaker 8: if it was double brick without a cavity, or if

1532
01:27:36,975 --> 01:27:39,775
Speaker 8: it was solid masonry you know that it and the

1533
01:27:39,855 --> 01:27:42,895
Speaker 8: window was inserted into the solid masonry, then I'd probably

1534
01:27:42,895 --> 01:27:46,775
Speaker 8: apply a seilant. But if it's conventional timber framing, building

1535
01:27:46,855 --> 01:27:50,615
Speaker 8: wrap cavity and then brickwork, I wouldn't be too concerned

1536
01:27:50,695 --> 01:27:53,055
Speaker 8: as long as Now this is where it gets tricky

1537
01:27:53,135 --> 01:27:58,615
Speaker 8: because if you're retrofitting right, so you're you're not taking

1538
01:27:58,695 --> 01:28:03,095
Speaker 8: the brickwork away, but you're changing the joinery. Basically, once

1539
01:28:03,175 --> 01:28:06,095
Speaker 8: you put the joinery in place, you can't flash behind it, right,

1540
01:28:07,375 --> 01:28:10,975
Speaker 8: So if you can't flash behind it, then you try

1541
01:28:11,055 --> 01:28:14,415
Speaker 8: and stop water entering the cavity by sealing the front.

1542
01:28:16,255 --> 01:28:19,615
Speaker 8: But if in your instance, they haven't changed the frame,

1543
01:28:19,855 --> 01:28:22,735
Speaker 8: They've just taken the glazing out, deepened the rebates and

1544
01:28:22,855 --> 01:28:24,575
Speaker 8: inserted the double glazing.

1545
01:28:25,055 --> 01:28:25,455
Speaker 5: Then.

1546
01:28:27,255 --> 01:28:29,935
Speaker 10: The tumbeln cut cut round the window.

1547
01:28:31,095 --> 01:28:33,655
Speaker 8: But have they actually taken the window frame that the

1548
01:28:33,775 --> 01:28:36,495
Speaker 8: double glaze that sits out.

1549
01:28:37,295 --> 01:28:40,775
Speaker 10: Yes, and then pushed the new one which has already

1550
01:28:41,655 --> 01:28:44,695
Speaker 10: bumped into the aluminium winder.

1551
01:28:45,015 --> 01:28:49,055
Speaker 8: Think, yeah, see in that instance there, because you know,

1552
01:28:49,255 --> 01:28:52,655
Speaker 8: practically speaking, you can't once it goes in, you can't

1553
01:28:53,055 --> 01:28:56,215
Speaker 8: deal with the flashings behind it. And you know, in

1554
01:28:56,735 --> 01:29:00,695
Speaker 8: some situations when the joinery goes in, the flashing behind

1555
01:29:00,735 --> 01:29:05,975
Speaker 8: it is just some DPC right, some dampproof course that

1556
01:29:06,135 --> 01:29:08,975
Speaker 8: is stapled in and tucked in behind there, and that's

1557
01:29:09,095 --> 01:29:12,175
Speaker 8: enough to prevent water getting into the gap between your

1558
01:29:12,215 --> 01:29:15,615
Speaker 8: timber framing and your jowinery. You can do that from

1559
01:29:15,735 --> 01:29:17,935
Speaker 8: you but you can't do that as retrofit. So maybe

1560
01:29:17,975 --> 01:29:21,495
Speaker 8: if it is a retrofit in this instance, ceiling around

1561
01:29:21,575 --> 01:29:24,935
Speaker 8: the outside would be required. Look, simple thing is to

1562
01:29:25,015 --> 01:29:27,295
Speaker 8: go back to the contractor and go is there you know,

1563
01:29:27,535 --> 01:29:31,615
Speaker 8: what's your methodology? Have you followed the process that you've

1564
01:29:31,735 --> 01:29:34,615
Speaker 8: established that you know is going to work, And if

1565
01:29:34,975 --> 01:29:37,055
Speaker 8: that requires selent, then they need to come back and

1566
01:29:37,095 --> 01:29:42,335
Speaker 8: do selant. All right, I hope that helps enjoy the

1567
01:29:42,375 --> 01:29:47,735
Speaker 8: double glazing. It'll make a big difference. Really, Okay, that's good,

1568
01:29:49,135 --> 01:29:53,735
Speaker 8: all right, all the rest if you take care, I mean,

1569
01:29:53,775 --> 01:29:55,575
Speaker 8: that's one of the benefits of double glazing, isn't it?

1570
01:29:56,135 --> 01:29:58,335
Speaker 8: You know you had some single glazing, then you've got

1571
01:29:58,375 --> 01:30:02,535
Speaker 8: double glazing. You know the benefit the day after because

1572
01:30:02,575 --> 01:30:04,335
Speaker 8: it's going to be warmer. Oh, weight one hundred and

1573
01:30:04,375 --> 01:30:13,455
Speaker 8: eighty ten eighty is the number two. All pete spelt

1574
01:30:13,495 --> 01:30:16,975
Speaker 8: the old way like my dad's name. My daughter has

1575
01:30:17,015 --> 01:30:20,695
Speaker 8: inherited a nineteen sixties house with asbestos in some of

1576
01:30:20,735 --> 01:30:23,815
Speaker 8: the ceilings. Are there other options than removing it? The

1577
01:30:23,935 --> 01:30:26,655
Speaker 8: kitchen one is badly stained from cooking, and the lounge

1578
01:30:26,775 --> 01:30:33,735
Speaker 8: is looking very sooty from Connie encapsulating. It is okay

1579
01:30:34,215 --> 01:30:38,855
Speaker 8: in the sense that with some decent advice. In fact,

1580
01:30:38,895 --> 01:30:42,735
Speaker 8: I think Asbestos Awareness Week was last week and there's

1581
01:30:42,735 --> 01:30:46,735
Speaker 8: a whole lot of new guidance. It's quite digestible, it's

1582
01:30:46,815 --> 01:30:50,335
Speaker 8: quite readable. You'll find it on the work Safe website.

1583
01:30:50,375 --> 01:30:53,175
Speaker 8: So there's new guidance for homeowners around sort of dealing

1584
01:30:53,255 --> 01:30:55,935
Speaker 8: with asbestos in your house. So in this instance here,

1585
01:30:56,935 --> 01:30:59,295
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, option one would be pull the

1586
01:30:59,335 --> 01:31:04,375
Speaker 8: ceilings down, remove the material and replace the ceilings. If

1587
01:31:04,655 --> 01:31:08,175
Speaker 8: the other option is to encapture, so essentially to put

1588
01:31:08,375 --> 01:31:12,175
Speaker 8: a new layer of plasterboard underneath the existing ceilings, you

1589
01:31:12,255 --> 01:31:14,655
Speaker 8: got to be a little bit careful about that and

1590
01:31:15,335 --> 01:31:19,135
Speaker 8: then stop and paint that. So those, broadly speaking, are

1591
01:31:19,175 --> 01:31:22,015
Speaker 8: your options, but neither of them is a cheap option.

1592
01:31:22,655 --> 01:31:26,575
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1594
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1595
01:31:30,935 --> 01:31:33,455
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1615
01:32:49,015 --> 01:32:51,295
Speaker 8: But right now we're still talking building. Oh eight hundred

1616
01:32:51,335 --> 01:32:54,055
Speaker 8: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call for

1617
01:32:54,095 --> 01:32:56,215
Speaker 8: your building questions, Peter, A very good morning to you.

1618
01:32:57,335 --> 01:33:01,975
Speaker 11: Good morning, Peter Lock. I'm looking to project manage my

1619
01:33:02,695 --> 01:33:08,735
Speaker 11: house and it comes back to the LPP. Now, the

1620
01:33:08,855 --> 01:33:12,215
Speaker 11: individual trades, they will sign off their own work, is

1621
01:33:12,295 --> 01:33:13,375
Speaker 11: that correct? Yes?

1622
01:33:14,655 --> 01:33:14,855
Speaker 8: Right?

1623
01:33:15,375 --> 01:33:17,695
Speaker 11: And the bill and the builder hey will go.

1624
01:33:19,335 --> 01:33:19,855
Speaker 17: His part.

1625
01:33:20,215 --> 01:33:25,415
Speaker 11: But when do I need an lp B to oversee

1626
01:33:25,935 --> 01:33:26,855
Speaker 11: all of the work.

1627
01:33:28,935 --> 01:33:36,215
Speaker 8: It's a very good question. No don't, No, you don't

1628
01:33:36,295 --> 01:33:41,695
Speaker 8: so in terms of so restricting building work in most

1629
01:33:41,775 --> 01:33:45,295
Speaker 8: cases needs to be done or supervised by a licensed

1630
01:33:45,335 --> 01:33:49,335
Speaker 8: building practitioner. So what's the scale of your projects? Peter?

1631
01:33:50,855 --> 01:33:53,975
Speaker 11: So, we too be droom greennie flattyp.

1632
01:33:53,815 --> 01:34:00,335
Speaker 8: With building consent. Yes, okay, all right, So the restricted

1633
01:34:00,415 --> 01:34:08,055
Speaker 8: trades that will be involved will be foundations, framing, cladding, roofing, waterproofing,

1634
01:34:08,255 --> 01:34:11,735
Speaker 8: those sorts of things. Right, So each of those contractors

1635
01:34:11,975 --> 01:34:15,655
Speaker 8: you could manage them, and each of them will provide

1636
01:34:15,695 --> 01:34:18,295
Speaker 8: you with either a producer statement or a record of

1637
01:34:18,375 --> 01:34:21,295
Speaker 8: works or a memorandum of work that you can then

1638
01:34:21,415 --> 01:34:27,375
Speaker 8: provide to counsel when you apply for your Code Compliance Certificate.

1639
01:34:27,455 --> 01:34:30,815
Speaker 8: You'r CCC at the end of the job. Yes, right,

1640
01:34:34,055 --> 01:34:34,575
Speaker 8: you go ahead.

1641
01:34:35,775 --> 01:34:38,135
Speaker 11: What I was saying is that, yeah, I thought that

1642
01:34:38,175 --> 01:34:41,455
Speaker 11: would be the case, but when it comes to the

1643
01:34:41,695 --> 01:34:50,455
Speaker 11: final the builder, hey, will give me his certificate and

1644
01:34:50,535 --> 01:34:52,975
Speaker 11: then all I have to do is take them all

1645
01:34:53,175 --> 01:34:55,695
Speaker 11: to the council to correct. Yeah.

1646
01:34:56,095 --> 01:35:00,055
Speaker 8: So what the builder should do, your licensed building practitioner

1647
01:35:00,615 --> 01:35:03,135
Speaker 8: is they will issue you with a record of works

1648
01:35:03,215 --> 01:35:05,655
Speaker 8: for all of the restricted building work that they do.

1649
01:35:05,935 --> 01:35:10,695
Speaker 8: So their record of works will if they've done the foundations,

1650
01:35:10,735 --> 01:35:15,015
Speaker 8: they'll include the foundations, they'll include the framing. So you know,

1651
01:35:15,095 --> 01:35:17,295
Speaker 8: I've done the framing in accordance with the building Code.

1652
01:35:18,095 --> 01:35:21,095
Speaker 8: I've done the cavity system if required, I've done the cladding,

1653
01:35:21,295 --> 01:35:26,335
Speaker 8: I've installed the joinery, I've done you know the roof framing.

1654
01:35:26,575 --> 01:35:29,735
Speaker 8: I've done the internal bracing. So you know, if you've

1655
01:35:29,775 --> 01:35:33,495
Speaker 8: got a jib bracing system and it's a b LH

1656
01:35:33,855 --> 01:35:36,655
Speaker 8: one to one point two meters, they'll say, yep, I've

1657
01:35:36,735 --> 01:35:40,655
Speaker 8: installed that correctly. That's the restricted building work and all

1658
01:35:40,735 --> 01:35:42,975
Speaker 8: of that should be covered off on their record of works.

1659
01:35:43,975 --> 01:35:44,895
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

1660
01:35:45,015 --> 01:35:48,415
Speaker 8: All right, good luck with the project. Thank you all

1661
01:35:48,455 --> 01:35:50,255
Speaker 8: the very best to you. Bother then, and a quick

1662
01:35:50,295 --> 01:35:51,815
Speaker 8: one from you, Bruce, how are you?

1663
01:35:52,095 --> 01:35:55,455
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, good good Figus. Hey, my questions this. I've

1664
01:35:55,495 --> 01:35:59,895
Speaker 6: got three houses of just relocated a new site and

1665
01:36:01,295 --> 01:36:04,375
Speaker 6: Evian's going well. That's the power which was put down

1666
01:36:04,415 --> 01:36:07,735
Speaker 6: the driveway, all went well, and then the electrical inspector

1667
01:36:07,815 --> 01:36:10,775
Speaker 6: came out through that last week and said, no, there's

1668
01:36:10,855 --> 01:36:15,695
Speaker 6: moisture in the power cable. What the remedy for that?

1669
01:36:16,855 --> 01:36:19,255
Speaker 8: Look to be fair, you know, you need to get

1670
01:36:19,695 --> 01:36:22,775
Speaker 8: specific advice on that. When they say moisture, is there

1671
01:36:22,855 --> 01:36:26,855
Speaker 8: moisture in the cable or in the deducting for the

1672
01:36:26,935 --> 01:36:28,735
Speaker 8: cable in the contract?

1673
01:36:29,535 --> 01:36:31,895
Speaker 6: He just indicated that that the power's coming from the streets.

1674
01:36:32,135 --> 01:36:35,895
Speaker 6: But then there's no power at the top of the

1675
01:36:36,015 --> 01:36:37,815
Speaker 6: driveway and there's no power at the bottom of the

1676
01:36:37,895 --> 01:36:42,295
Speaker 6: driveway to get this sixty meter driveway, and he said

1677
01:36:42,295 --> 01:36:45,895
Speaker 6: that the cable's broken or there's moisture that's stopping the

1678
01:36:46,455 --> 01:36:49,575
Speaker 6: movement of power. Okay, but I've got I've got to

1679
01:36:49,615 --> 01:36:51,735
Speaker 6: meet I've got my ectrician coming to myrow morning.

1680
01:36:52,095 --> 01:36:54,135
Speaker 8: I was going to say, ultimately, it's going to be

1681
01:36:54,255 --> 01:36:57,055
Speaker 8: a discussion with the contractor who installed it, you know,

1682
01:36:57,135 --> 01:36:58,775
Speaker 8: and if they've done it in such a way that

1683
01:36:59,255 --> 01:37:02,695
Speaker 8: you know, I know, it seems really scary, and I

1684
01:37:02,815 --> 01:37:05,815
Speaker 8: still get scared about this, but apparently it's completely legitimate.

1685
01:37:06,455 --> 01:37:10,015
Speaker 8: Is you know, certain types of power cable for Maine

1686
01:37:10,055 --> 01:37:13,175
Speaker 8: supply are just laid in the trench, right, They're not

1687
01:37:13,495 --> 01:37:15,575
Speaker 8: protected by condurit And I always kind of look at

1688
01:37:15,615 --> 01:37:18,135
Speaker 8: that and go, jeepers. I think I'd prefer to have

1689
01:37:18,215 --> 01:37:21,295
Speaker 8: mine in the conduit. And then, you know, if contractors

1690
01:37:21,375 --> 01:37:24,575
Speaker 8: have not paid attention while they're backfilling and they've used

1691
01:37:24,615 --> 01:37:28,815
Speaker 8: the wrong material, then yeah, inadvertently they may well have

1692
01:37:28,935 --> 01:37:32,255
Speaker 8: damaged that MAINZ cable, which would be a real big issue,

1693
01:37:34,175 --> 01:37:37,095
Speaker 8: especially in terms of identifying where the damage might be,

1694
01:37:37,775 --> 01:37:40,895
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, and digging up and redoing

1695
01:37:40,975 --> 01:37:45,175
Speaker 8: sixty meters of cable, because sixty meters of cable, you'll

1696
01:37:45,255 --> 01:37:46,335
Speaker 8: know that's not cheap.

1697
01:37:47,055 --> 01:37:48,535
Speaker 6: No, it's right, it's three house.

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Speaker 8: It become I wateringly expensive, isn't it? That cable? Yeah? Look,

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Speaker 8: I think it's all going to come back on your contractor,

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Speaker 8: because it's simple. You've asked them to do a job,

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Speaker 8: run power from the road to the house, and then

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Speaker 8: they've done it and it's been backfilled. Now they might say, look,

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Speaker 8: I didn't do the back it's not my problem. But

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Speaker 8: you can argue that later on. Did you do the

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Speaker 8: trenching yourself or did the contractors do the trenching?

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Speaker 6: Another contract? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Okay, okay, let us know how you get on. I'd

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Speaker 8: be fascinated to know what the discussion tomorrow, how that

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Speaker 8: got resolved.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I will all right, Okay, Pete appreciate that.

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Speaker 8: Bruce, good luck with it. Take care Criche To be fair,

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Speaker 8: it's not one that I'm particularly familiar with, righty. Oh,

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Speaker 8: If you would like to talk to rut and I'm

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Speaker 8: sure you would because some of you have already started

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Speaker 8: to call, the lines are open. The number to call

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Speaker 8: is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty back in a moment.

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