1 00:00:06,813 --> 00:00:10,653 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin 2 00:00:10,813 --> 00:00:12,053 Speaker 1: from News Talks edb. 3 00:00:23,893 --> 00:00:28,173 Speaker 2: Mission Impossible Scene There Chris Shaltz joins me now to 4 00:00:28,253 --> 00:00:33,373 Speaker 2: talk entertainment. Good morning, Good morning, the Final Reckoning. This 5 00:00:33,613 --> 00:00:36,013 Speaker 2: was released. There was a preview of it on Friday night. 6 00:00:36,533 --> 00:00:39,173 Speaker 2: Took most of our Friday night, two hours and fifty 7 00:00:39,213 --> 00:00:41,813 Speaker 2: minutes of it. I didn't wait for the burgers and 8 00:00:41,813 --> 00:00:43,413 Speaker 2: the chips. I just went straight to the there and 9 00:00:43,453 --> 00:00:47,853 Speaker 2: got my fantastic seat. This is the final last film 10 00:00:47,893 --> 00:00:49,973 Speaker 2: in the Mission Impossible series, and I'm going to be 11 00:00:49,973 --> 00:00:52,933 Speaker 2: honest with you, Chris. As far as thrillers and action 12 00:00:53,093 --> 00:00:57,973 Speaker 2: flex go, I do appreciate and really enjoy the silliness, 13 00:00:58,013 --> 00:01:02,613 Speaker 2: the escapism, and the incredible kind of stunts and the 14 00:01:02,733 --> 00:01:05,013 Speaker 2: thrill that's presented to us in a cinema. 15 00:01:05,013 --> 00:01:08,893 Speaker 3: This does the job right the action set pieces a 16 00:01:08,973 --> 00:01:11,173 Speaker 3: way you're going to these things, You're not going there 17 00:01:11,213 --> 00:01:14,853 Speaker 3: to try and understand what's going on because the backs, 18 00:01:15,453 --> 00:01:18,253 Speaker 3: oh my god, there's there are hard drives and USB 19 00:01:18,413 --> 00:01:21,213 Speaker 3: flash drives that need to be combined with a poison pill. 20 00:01:21,773 --> 00:01:24,733 Speaker 2: That is ai that someone I'm not entirely can't really 21 00:01:24,733 --> 00:01:27,373 Speaker 2: remember who created which is going to take over the 22 00:01:27,373 --> 00:01:29,973 Speaker 2: world and we're all going to be like control. They've 23 00:01:30,013 --> 00:01:32,253 Speaker 2: got the nukes. What we know, Chris is the world's 24 00:01:32,253 --> 00:01:34,613 Speaker 2: going to explore. So this is part two. This finale 25 00:01:34,653 --> 00:01:36,533 Speaker 2: has been done in two parts, hasn't it? So part 26 00:01:36,613 --> 00:01:39,293 Speaker 2: one Dead Reckoning was that last year or the year 27 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:42,133 Speaker 2: before twenty three? Yeah, so this is this is final 28 00:01:42,213 --> 00:01:44,533 Speaker 2: and they do take quite a lot of time to 29 00:01:44,653 --> 00:01:46,813 Speaker 2: set it up. So if you can't quite remember the 30 00:01:46,933 --> 00:01:51,773 Speaker 2: end of reading, there's a lot of reminiscing about where 31 00:01:51,813 --> 00:01:52,693 Speaker 2: we're at, Like. 32 00:01:52,653 --> 00:01:55,253 Speaker 3: An entire hour of backstory, I want to say, but 33 00:01:55,293 --> 00:01:58,493 Speaker 3: not just backstory for the seventh film, the last film, 34 00:01:58,533 --> 00:02:01,253 Speaker 3: this backstory for the whole series. They're going back to 35 00:02:01,293 --> 00:02:02,853 Speaker 3: some of the first films. 36 00:02:03,173 --> 00:02:04,493 Speaker 2: Nostalgia, isn't it. 37 00:02:04,293 --> 00:02:06,213 Speaker 3: It's almost like a greatest it. So I felt too 38 00:02:06,573 --> 00:02:08,653 Speaker 3: like some of those first set pieces they were almost 39 00:02:08,653 --> 00:02:11,973 Speaker 3: HARKing back, like when Tom Cruise ethan hunt the spy 40 00:02:12,093 --> 00:02:14,133 Speaker 3: is tied up in a chair and he can't find 41 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:17,133 Speaker 3: his lock packs and he's about to be tortured, Like 42 00:02:17,173 --> 00:02:20,413 Speaker 3: I've seen that scene before, right, like several times, Like 43 00:02:20,453 --> 00:02:24,813 Speaker 3: this felt like a greatest sets But then they get 44 00:02:25,093 --> 00:02:27,773 Speaker 3: to the set pieces, the action set pieces. In the 45 00:02:27,813 --> 00:02:30,933 Speaker 3: middle of the film, they put Ethan Hunt on a 46 00:02:30,973 --> 00:02:34,453 Speaker 3: sunken submarine, and that is one of the most spectacular 47 00:02:34,733 --> 00:02:38,133 Speaker 3: cinematic sequences. I think I'll see all yet. For twenty minutes, 48 00:02:38,173 --> 00:02:40,453 Speaker 3: I just sat back in my seat and went, Wow, 49 00:02:40,573 --> 00:02:44,493 Speaker 3: he's he's trying to make his way through a submerged 50 00:02:44,493 --> 00:02:49,213 Speaker 3: submarine abandoned, right, But there's missiles going around like pickup sticks. 51 00:02:49,213 --> 00:02:52,733 Speaker 3: So he's got this face helmet diving suit thing on, 52 00:02:52,893 --> 00:02:55,813 Speaker 3: so you can't really see him properly, but it's spectacular. 53 00:02:56,013 --> 00:02:58,813 Speaker 2: Five hundred meters you know, on the ocean, will sort 54 00:02:58,853 --> 00:02:59,853 Speaker 2: of on an ocean floor. 55 00:02:59,893 --> 00:03:00,053 Speaker 1: You know. 56 00:03:00,333 --> 00:03:03,973 Speaker 2: The whole thing is ridiculous, but as you say, absolutely thrilling. 57 00:03:04,493 --> 00:03:06,253 Speaker 3: Why you're going yeah, and do you know what? 58 00:03:06,613 --> 00:03:09,373 Speaker 2: It was long and it was probably too long, but 59 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:11,653 Speaker 2: these days the price of a movie ticket is twenty 60 00:03:11,693 --> 00:03:13,933 Speaker 2: five bucks, and he is going to give you bang 61 00:03:13,973 --> 00:03:15,093 Speaker 2: for your back totally. 62 00:03:15,133 --> 00:03:17,173 Speaker 3: Also, I've got a hot tape. If you get bored, 63 00:03:17,613 --> 00:03:21,813 Speaker 3: just watch Tom Cruise's hair. It changes scene to scene, 64 00:03:21,813 --> 00:03:24,733 Speaker 3: and I think that's because they shot this over two 65 00:03:24,853 --> 00:03:27,573 Speaker 3: years in different countries. He must have changed hair dresses 66 00:03:27,653 --> 00:03:31,133 Speaker 3: multiple times because it's wafty and breezy in some scenes 67 00:03:31,173 --> 00:03:32,893 Speaker 3: and it's longer, and then it's like cut back to 68 00:03:32,973 --> 00:03:35,613 Speaker 3: like it's shorter like the Tom Cruise we know, and 69 00:03:35,693 --> 00:03:37,573 Speaker 3: other scenes, and then he's on the flight and it's 70 00:03:37,613 --> 00:03:40,213 Speaker 3: like helmet here right, like it's all down over his 71 00:03:40,293 --> 00:03:40,893 Speaker 3: face and the. 72 00:03:40,933 --> 00:03:42,813 Speaker 2: Way you usually make comments about it, Oh, I like 73 00:03:42,813 --> 00:03:44,493 Speaker 2: your hair longer, And I did wonder if that was 74 00:03:44,533 --> 00:03:46,173 Speaker 2: a bit of a joke, like hang on in the 75 00:03:46,213 --> 00:03:47,413 Speaker 2: scene before, wasn't it shorter? 76 00:03:48,093 --> 00:03:48,333 Speaker 3: Look? 77 00:03:48,413 --> 00:03:50,573 Speaker 2: I love watching him do his own stunts as well. 78 00:03:50,573 --> 00:03:53,453 Speaker 2: There is something old fashioned about it. You know that 79 00:03:53,493 --> 00:03:56,573 Speaker 2: what you were seeing is being shot in camera on 80 00:03:56,613 --> 00:03:59,613 Speaker 2: a location, and he's not afraid that he looks so 81 00:03:59,773 --> 00:04:02,133 Speaker 2: funny because his hair has been blown into, you know, 82 00:04:02,253 --> 00:04:04,973 Speaker 2: into strange sort of shapes, and his face and his 83 00:04:05,093 --> 00:04:06,813 Speaker 2: cheeks are all sort of wabbler around. 84 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:10,453 Speaker 3: Gives it a spectacle, right. Shit, it's exhausting, it's exhausted. 85 00:04:10,533 --> 00:04:13,573 Speaker 3: I did love this, this whole hunt to bring down AI, 86 00:04:13,893 --> 00:04:17,533 Speaker 3: which is like kind of what Tom Cruiser's mission impossible 87 00:04:17,573 --> 00:04:20,053 Speaker 3: in film is. You know, we saw Harrison Ford get 88 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:23,933 Speaker 3: deaged in the last Indiana Jones movie. I really hope 89 00:04:24,013 --> 00:04:25,853 Speaker 3: Tom Cruise just sticks to his guns here and he 90 00:04:26,413 --> 00:04:29,173 Speaker 3: doesn't go down that roade. I don't know, he's sixty three. 91 00:04:29,213 --> 00:04:30,813 Speaker 3: I don't know how long he can keep doing this. 92 00:04:31,653 --> 00:04:34,693 Speaker 3: Probably not that long. But you know, I'd hate to 93 00:04:34,693 --> 00:04:39,053 Speaker 3: see him pop up like daged with AI, I know. 94 00:04:38,493 --> 00:04:40,053 Speaker 2: Because he's really stuck to his guns. I mean, he 95 00:04:40,133 --> 00:04:43,653 Speaker 2: is single handedly trying to save Cinema Cinema's theaters. You know, 96 00:04:43,733 --> 00:04:45,653 Speaker 2: he's trying to keep us going. 97 00:04:45,973 --> 00:04:47,453 Speaker 3: That really is a mission impossible. 98 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:51,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure enough. Hey tell me about something a little 99 00:04:51,453 --> 00:04:55,653 Speaker 2: bit different. This is dark Field. It's a live theater experience. 100 00:04:55,813 --> 00:04:58,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've been down to Artier Square in Auckland, 101 00:04:58,453 --> 00:05:00,853 Speaker 3: or if you're coming up soon, you'll see these two 102 00:05:00,973 --> 00:05:03,813 Speaker 3: huge shipping containers that bright white, you can't miss them, 103 00:05:04,413 --> 00:05:06,613 Speaker 3: and one's got flight written on a side of it 104 00:05:06,653 --> 00:05:09,613 Speaker 3: and the other one's got seance. These are I want 105 00:05:09,613 --> 00:05:15,133 Speaker 3: to call them immersive experiences that they're sensory deprivation experiences. 106 00:05:15,213 --> 00:05:18,493 Speaker 3: So you buy a ticket q up and you go 107 00:05:18,573 --> 00:05:20,613 Speaker 3: in and so I did the flight one last week, 108 00:05:20,893 --> 00:05:23,973 Speaker 3: and it's set up like a plane. You go in 109 00:05:24,013 --> 00:05:27,173 Speaker 3: and you go through the normal routine of going on 110 00:05:27,213 --> 00:05:30,573 Speaker 3: a flight, and then they turn the lights off and 111 00:05:30,613 --> 00:05:34,973 Speaker 3: you put headphones on and things get weird. So it's 112 00:05:35,013 --> 00:05:39,253 Speaker 3: sensory deprivation. Your ears start hearing more, okay, And so 113 00:05:39,293 --> 00:05:43,573 Speaker 3: they're playing with audio. There's things that you hear, people whispering, 114 00:05:44,653 --> 00:05:47,373 Speaker 3: and the flight itself is quite messed up and it 115 00:05:47,373 --> 00:05:49,493 Speaker 3: gets trippier and tripier. 116 00:05:49,573 --> 00:05:52,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you're afraid of flying, would this be triggering? Okay, 117 00:05:52,733 --> 00:05:54,533 Speaker 2: we don't go anywhere near and if you're afraid, well. 118 00:05:54,493 --> 00:05:56,613 Speaker 3: If you're afraid of fright flying, if you don't like 119 00:05:56,653 --> 00:05:59,733 Speaker 3: being in enclosed, dark spaces as well. Yeah, Like so 120 00:05:59,813 --> 00:06:02,893 Speaker 3: I went with my wife. She hated it, like the 121 00:06:02,933 --> 00:06:05,773 Speaker 3: worst thing ever for her. For me, I was grinning 122 00:06:05,813 --> 00:06:08,693 Speaker 3: the entire time. I actually loved it. I don't think 123 00:06:08,733 --> 00:06:11,693 Speaker 3: it's a complete experience that you hear. In the UK 124 00:06:11,853 --> 00:06:14,613 Speaker 3: they have these like immersive theater experiences. They set up 125 00:06:14,613 --> 00:06:17,773 Speaker 3: a whole house, like you know Georgian Times with you 126 00:06:17,813 --> 00:06:20,453 Speaker 3: know old you know you're in a murder mystery or something. 127 00:06:21,173 --> 00:06:24,173 Speaker 3: This isn't that. This is about twenty five minutes, but 128 00:06:24,213 --> 00:06:26,493 Speaker 3: it is trippy. It does change your reality you come 129 00:06:26,533 --> 00:06:28,093 Speaker 3: out of it. I did feel like i'd been on 130 00:06:28,133 --> 00:06:31,213 Speaker 3: a bit of a journey and it had had changed 131 00:06:31,253 --> 00:06:33,733 Speaker 3: things for me, so yeah, no, it's definitely worth checking 132 00:06:33,733 --> 00:06:34,453 Speaker 3: out interesting. 133 00:06:34,493 --> 00:06:35,693 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Chris. 134 00:06:36,933 --> 00:06:40,093 Speaker 1: For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen 135 00:06:40,213 --> 00:06:42,773 Speaker 1: live to news talks that'd be from nine am Sunday, 136 00:06:43,013 --> 00:06:45,293 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.