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Speaker 2: DB, Bolly You and Welcome Today. The oil and gas

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Speaker 2: reputation scrappers. Labor says they will reimpose the licensed ban

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Speaker 2: are the Beme scooter scandal as licenses are canceled. Good

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Speaker 2: Mark and Jindy do politics Wednesday after Right, Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 2: Steve Price, they batter up from offshore as well. Posky

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Speaker 2: the middle of the week. Here we go seven past six.

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Speaker 2: What a weird old world. I'm watching mass protests in

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Speaker 2: Australia yesterday from unionist right. The CFMU has been put

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Speaker 2: into administration by the Australian government. There's a very big

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Speaker 2: controversial step for a couple of reasons. One governments don't

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Speaker 2: normally take over businesses. Unions are otherwise. And two labourers

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Speaker 2: and lockstep of course with the union movement and their

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Speaker 2: mates and bedfellows. A lot of people as a result

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Speaker 2: of lost their job. So if they go yesterday, tools

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Speaker 2: down and the major cities, all the major cities protesting

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Speaker 2: about what's happened now the reason it's happened, if you

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Speaker 2: haven't followed the story, is the Union or a bunch

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Speaker 2: of crooks. Basically there have been extensive and gobsmacking reporting

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Speaker 2: by the Sydney Morning Herald and Channel nine and just

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Speaker 2: what this union's been up to over the years in

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Speaker 2: terms of stand ab a tactics and bravery. In essence,

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Speaker 2: you don't get anything done unless you pay them, hire

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Speaker 2: them and do as you're told. This, when uncovered with

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Speaker 2: such graphic and incontrovertible proof, got exceedingly embarrassing for the government.

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Speaker 2: Given it's not like everyone didn't know this was going

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Speaker 2: about it until of course they had to. Because they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They were all going down together. But ask yourself this,

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Speaker 2: how is it that you work for crooks? How is

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Speaker 2: it you know you belong to a group that's involved

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Speaker 2: in skull daggerish behavior and you're happy to pay your

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Speaker 2: subs to them each and every year, and then when

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Speaker 2: tipped into administration because of the jig's up, you then

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Speaker 2: go and down tools and launch protest to protest what

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Speaker 2: your love of dodgy behavior. It seems Australia knows it's dodgy,

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Speaker 2: accepts it's dodgy, wants to belong to dodgy groups, and

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Speaker 2: get upset when the dodginess is exposed. How mad is that?

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Speaker 2: How do you explain that what's gone so spectacularly wrong

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Speaker 2: for that to be seen as normal? But there it

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Speaker 2: was on the main streets of every Australian city yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the defense of crooked business practice. Go figure who news

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Speaker 2: of the world in ninety seconds. Now we started swiling

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Speaker 2: with Sakia in the garden.

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Speaker 3: A garden and a building there were once used for

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Speaker 3: lockdown parties. Remember the pictures just over there of the

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Speaker 3: wine and the food. Well, this garden and this building

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Speaker 3: and now bucking your service.

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Speaker 2: He was actually the hyperbowl aside to do as while

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Speaker 2: he was telling the boaters the economy shot and come

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Speaker 2: the budget in October, Texas are going up to which

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Speaker 2: Rishie said tod.

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Speaker 4: Keir Starmer's speech today was the clearest indication of what

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Speaker 4: labor has been planning to do all along, raise your taxes.

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Speaker 2: Also in Britain, calls for an inquiry into the Dagenham

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Speaker 2: Town fire we told you about yesterday. One couple's plans

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Speaker 2: have been ruined.

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Speaker 5: Long drama to find us that one special one wedding dress,

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Speaker 5: which she finally did. They finally remake it how it's

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Speaker 5: supposed to be. She was so happy, everything was ready

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Speaker 5: to go to the war. But now we are in

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Speaker 5: dead end. We got no money, nowhere to sleep.

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Speaker 2: To the war. These riellyes have got back another hostage.

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Speaker 6: I congratulate the Idea on another successful liberation operation. We

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Speaker 6: worked tirelessly to return all of our adductees. We will

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Speaker 6: continue to act like this until we get everyone home.

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Speaker 2: Families of hostages, you know.

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Speaker 7: People regarding it like it's a miracle.

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Speaker 4: And we're so thankful that after over three hundred and

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Speaker 4: twenty days in captivity, he managed to come out, and

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Speaker 4: we're so happy for his eleven kids.

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Speaker 2: Into the States with a Hero's camper, running heads about

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Speaker 2: border control. The show shops were sitting.

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Speaker 7: I think there's wide recognition in this country, and we've

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Speaker 7: had some success. I think that a number of illegal

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Speaker 7: and Grant's coming in recently has glid sat down since Satually.

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Speaker 7: That is a major issue and we've got to continue

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Speaker 2: That could be because of the wall. Bernie. Finally, Tiger

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Speaker 2: Woods justin Timberlake and granted a drinks license at their

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Speaker 2: sports bar in Scotland. They're turning the new Picture House

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Speaker 2: in Saint Andrews into a unique bar and restaurant. Aren't

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Speaker 2: We'll start on the new barber the in media, here's

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Speaker 2: the world in ninety six. And by the way, I

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Speaker 2: speaking of the politics in America, Trump has tapped them.

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Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy has a job. He also taped Tossi

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Speaker 2: Gabbett overnight as part of their presidential transitional team. They'll

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Speaker 2: be in charge of staffing policy decisions. He needs to win,

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Speaker 2: of course, but at least I've got work. It is

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Speaker 2: eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: Mike Ceptka runs the unions in Australia like Jimmy Hoffey.

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Speaker 2: Yes he does, but it doesn't explain why people would

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Speaker 2: go and protest and somehow celebrate that a brazen mixture

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Speaker 2: and New Zealand is stark A brazen mixture is one headline,

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Speaker 2: a brazen mixture of flannel, flummery and falsehood. Star has

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Speaker 2: got no blueprint for Britain. The good news they got

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Speaker 2: overnight economically is prices in that particular part of the

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Speaker 2: British retail consortium, driven by clothing and manufacturing. They're plummeting

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Speaker 2: go my Welt Andrew kellerher good morning, very good morning,

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Speaker 2: matt in to you yesterday Vulcan Steal, same sort of

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Speaker 2: business a same sort of problems.

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Speaker 9: That's dead right, So yeah, the reporting season continues that

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Speaker 9: the some key words we're just seeing everywhere, Mike comean

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Speaker 9: you can they sort of.

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Speaker 2: Just roll off the tongue.

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Speaker 9: Now, cost out, challenging, uncertainty and both those terms evident,

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Speaker 9: this morning. So yeah, Vulcan Steel, we covered off steel

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Speaker 9: tough it is in the construction industry. So we've got unsurprisingly,

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Speaker 9: you've got similar themes and the Vulcan result as he

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Speaker 9: Focus for Vulcan, as they are for almost every reporting company,

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Speaker 9: the eponymous cost out line of response in almost every

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Speaker 9: evidence of this sort of economic macro stress in the

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Speaker 9: company announcements they make. Vulcan make the comment that competitors

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Speaker 9: Look they are transitasment operator. They seem to indicate that

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Speaker 9: And response to the announcement, the share price yesterday did

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Speaker 9: last month the share price for Vulcan Stealers lifted from

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Speaker 9: sort of seven dollars to eight dollars. There is evidence

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Speaker 2: So they had a little light on the horizon here.

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Speaker 2: Good tell me about tourism because there are a couple

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Speaker 9: No, so some interesting comments. So this is tourism Holdings,

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Speaker 9: And yeah, the positive here is that the result was

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Speaker 2: So fifty one point eight million underlying net profit after tax.

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Speaker 9: Look Tourism Holdings like they put out there a goal

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty six. They now acknowledge that the prevailing economic

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Speaker 9: a goal as conditions improved, despite current uncertainty. There's the

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Speaker 2: They still believe that.

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Speaker 9: The FY twenty five, the financial year twenty five result

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Speaker 9: will be better than this year. Now, Tourism Holding doesn't

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Speaker 9: Earnings contribution from New Zealand. Australia are the major sources

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Speaker 9: to highlight in their outlook statement, Mike, They said booking

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Speaker 9: intakes in recent weeks indicate that the tourism recovery is slowing.

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Speaker 9: Monthly migration monthly tourism numbers from Stats New Zealand. Those

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Speaker 9: numbers seem to support that observation as well, certainly in

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Speaker 9: terms of New Zealand. Anyway, Now, share price, it's been

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Speaker 9: a tough year for tourism holding shareholders. The share price

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Speaker 9: down almost fifty percent so far this year. Has lifted

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Speaker 9: just keeps sort of bouncing around, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Give me some numbers?

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Speaker 9: So bit of economic data outs in the US, so

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Speaker 9: consumer confidence lifted, So that sort of leans against the

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Speaker 9: recession narrative that this market here is just hanging in there,

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Speaker 9: just waiting for the Nvidia announcement, which will be after.

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Speaker 2: The close Tomorrowity is going to save the world, that's right.

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Speaker 9: All bets are off until the video comes out, but

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Speaker 9: the Dow Jones is down one point at the stage

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Speaker 9: forty one thousand, two hundred and thirty eight s and

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Speaker 9: The forty one hundred gain point two eight three four five,

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Speaker 9: the nikke a gain just under half a percent thirty

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Speaker 9: didn't have a great day, lost one point one percent

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Speaker 2: It be morning, Mike for all the positives. There's an

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Speaker 2: different times. Thank you, Grant. It's nicely put. I heard

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Speaker 2: last night Mike. Supergroup Oasis are getting back together. Correct

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Speaker 2: Is it a multimillion dollar package, Yes, if it goes well.

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Speaker 2: Will it go global? Yes? Will they hold together? Who

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Speaker 2: would know? You like him? You don't like them? Williams Overnight?

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Speaker 2: Why have a driver academy if you don't go and

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Speaker 2: give people the opportunity when the opportunity comes along? Fair enough?

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Speaker 2: Is he good enough? Does he have any experience in

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Speaker 2: Really? Is he as experienced as Lawsome or Schumacher?

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Speaker 2: Are they taking a risk in this? Yes? But that's

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Speaker 2: the news that broke over night six twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five trending now with one Square House, you're one star

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Speaker 2: Understand. I think this is huge news in Britain because

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Speaker 1: When both come together, well greatness.

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Speaker 9: We made people feel something that was indefinable.

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Speaker 11: This is it.

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Speaker 9: People will never ever forget the way that you made

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Speaker 2: This is a touch of Robbie Williams about them, isn't

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Speaker 1: A lot of times a day looking back in anger?

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Speaker 12: But are you happy that Oasis has decided to reform

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Speaker 2: they are getting back together. It is on He's with

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Speaker 2: Over night? The reportage started in Australia. Beam it looks

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Speaker 2: Apple's got some news for us in the wonderful world

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Speaker 2: media reports that she does the company snuck more scooters

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Speaker 13: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: If it hadn't been for the Australian media, would you

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Speaker 13: Yes, Mike, we got there was a blower complaint early

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Speaker 2: So they're CrOx.

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Speaker 8: Well it was.

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Speaker 13: The information provided was misleading and inaccurate.

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Speaker 2: Mic right, So that's against the relationship you have with them.

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Speaker 2: They're supposed to give you open, honest, detailed data that

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Speaker 13: Yes, I mean, we've got a license. We should be

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Speaker 2: They've said sorry. Have they said sorry because they mean

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Speaker 13: I think that's for Beamed spawn Mike. They've apologized, but

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Speaker 13: from the seriesness of the issues we found, there's no

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Speaker 2: Know if Wellington are going to find the same thing,

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Speaker 2: or that's out of your wheelhouse, it's out.

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Speaker 13: Of our wheel ask We have been in contact with

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Speaker 2: Next, which is Auckland as a city in the East

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Speaker 13: I mean definitely the users of EA scooters in Auckland

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Speaker 13: Mike to fill the gap. We are reviewing new license applications.

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Speaker 13: Ah, that's a really interesting question. In terms of Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Mike, right, I read this morning and this is my

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Speaker 13: I know that that's an operator that we've just issued

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Speaker 2: It might be running and they're trying to pack.

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Speaker 13: It's still it's something that's really you know, recently been introduced.

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Speaker 13: So we were still going to have a look at it,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Meurbin, appreciate your insight very much, Murburn Chitty, I

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Speaker 2: But the US Department of Justice Special Council, that's old Jacksmith.

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Speaker 2: He's gone back again. Hold on, we'll need to we'll

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Speaker 2: need to have another look at that. So that's where

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Speaker 2: that is currently in Florida Court seventeen too.

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Speaker 2: Today the day She's sworn, And so it goes Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 2: how are you? I'm welcome make Apple. What have they

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Speaker 2: got for us?

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Speaker 15: Well, we'll find out fully on September, the tenth of

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Speaker 15: your time, when Apple is going to roll out what

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Speaker 15: they are calling, quote the first generative aiphone. Well we

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Speaker 15: know that. Back in June, Apple unveiled a partnership with

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Speaker 15: Chad GPTV, creators of Open AI. So Apple says new

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Speaker 15: tools will be built into the iPhone sixteen models with

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Speaker 15: the help of the AI developers. Already we have some

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Speaker 15: clue as to what is expected. For one, there's going

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Speaker 15: to be a significantly smarter Siri, which is able to

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Speaker 15: engage in more detailed conversations just you and your phone

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Speaker 15: in private there where Siri will be able to locate

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Speaker 15: photos you're looking for and answer questions about your daily

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Speaker 15: schedule and layout drafts of potential emails you might want

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Speaker 15: to send. So kind of personal AI assistant. But how

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Speaker 15: relationship with Siri only grow over.

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Speaker 13: Number of years.

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Speaker 15: The new iPhone also will be able to generate new

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Speaker 15: personalized emojis. Is there a demand for that? I'm often

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Speaker 15: wrong about.

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Speaker 2: These text things.

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Speaker 15: But there is also a new processing chip will be

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Speaker 15: a chip called the A eighteen Pro. So we'll see

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Speaker 15: what this thing can do. The iPhone camera as well,

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Speaker 15: it's going to get some new AI abilities. It will

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Speaker 15: have an enhanced zoom. It will have a virtual three

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Speaker 15: hundred millimeters zoom capability, so that means you can do

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Speaker 15: with your phone what in the past has required long

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Speaker 15: smallest details you can barec with human eyesight. The AI

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Speaker 15: also will be able to clear up images to improve clarity.

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Speaker 15: So this means there will be enhanced photo processing built in.

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Speaker 15: So will this be a game changer? Apple's iPhone sales

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Speaker 15: have been slumping, say in China, due to growing competition

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Speaker 15: and some troubling economic conditions. As for the cost of

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Speaker 15: iPhone sixteen's family, that's going to increase as well. Currently,

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Speaker 15: the base model of the iPhone fifteen on the American

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Speaker 15: about nine hundred and ninety nine US dollars. This new

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Speaker 15: hundred to one hundred and fifty dollars US, with availability

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Speaker 15: about ten days after the Apple launch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, RFK, Miss Gabbart a couple of jobs.

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Speaker 15: There, Yeah, call this the political party shuffle. Trump was

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Speaker 15: planning to put a couple of former Dems onto his

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Speaker 15: transition team if he needs a transition team. So he's

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Speaker 15: named RFK and Tulsey Gabbett as honorary coach chairs. Who

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Speaker 15: knows what that means? In reality, Trump, of course, typically

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Speaker 15: runs the show himself, and former assistants have had a

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Speaker 15: shall we say, short or troubled lifespan. Think Anthony Scaramucci,

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Speaker 15: Chris Christy, by Pence, We.

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Speaker 12: Could go on.

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Speaker 15: On the Democratic side, more than two hundred former Republican

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Speaker 15: staffers for Bush, Romney, and even the late Senator John

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Speaker 15: McCain have just signed on to a letter supporting Harris.

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Speaker 15: We saw several Republicans speak at the Democratic Convention in

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Speaker 15: here don't ask me why, over the Harris Trump debates

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Speaker 15: set for September the tenth as well. The Harris team

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Speaker 15: Mike's will be left open, left on during the entire debate,

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Speaker 15: instead of being muted as they were the last go around. Kamala.

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Speaker 15: Harris supporters suggest they wanted to be able to fact

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Speaker 15: check Trump instantly, and they speculate that if Harris provokes

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Speaker 15: Trump enough, he might let loose in some way. Trump

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Speaker 15: has been publicly dithering about whether he will debate on

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Speaker 15: American ABC at all.

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Speaker 2: He says, it's the worst of all that work. When

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Speaker 1: That, I said, why am I doing it?

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Speaker 2: Let's do it with another network.

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Speaker 10: I want to do it.

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Speaker 12: So we're thinking about it.

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Speaker 6: We're thinking about it. They also want to change the rules,

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Speaker 6: you know, they dealer as we're keeping the said Rose

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Speaker 10: They want to make a change in the rules because.

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Speaker 15: She can't answer questions that debate all wait, but because

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Speaker 15: they already know everything.

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Speaker 13: They say, Oh, Trumps, you know, I'm not doing the debate.

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Speaker 10: That's the same things they say now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, right now, I said, why should I do

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Speaker 4: a debate? I'm leading in the polls.

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Speaker 15: Is he leaving in the polls anyway? Yes, those are

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Speaker 15: chickens the year in the background, and I'm with the chickens.

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Speaker 15: This seems like political leftovers. You'd think the EUSt too

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Speaker 15: nominees will be compelled to debate.

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Speaker 2: Right, I might see in a couple of days. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: She is also under pressure, of course, Couse she hasn't

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Speaker 2: done a sit down interview in thirty seven days, and

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Speaker 2: some people are counting that. So tomorrow will be thirty

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Speaker 2: eight they claim they've got something sorted and it'll be

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Speaker 2: done before allegedly the end of the month, turn away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike hosting Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement Communities, New Dogs.

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Speaker 2: Be Jeremy Clarkson on social media overnight with a photo

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Speaker 2: with Andy Willman. Who's Andy Wilman. He's the producer of

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Speaker 2: the show, who is producer of top Gear, producer of

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Speaker 2: Grand Tour, producer of Clarkson's Farm. The Dogs pleaded with

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Speaker 2: Andy Willman to be in season five is what Clarkson

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Speaker 2: wright season five being season five with Clarkson's Farm. Threes

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Speaker 2: just dropped. Fall's been filmed so five it could go forever,

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Speaker 2: so people are excited about that. Overnight. Notting Hill Carnival

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Speaker 2: has just wrapped up. They had a long weekend in Britain.

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Speaker 2: I know this because our son lives on the route

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Speaker 2: to the notting Hill Carnibal and a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: it's boarded up in that particular part of the world

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Speaker 2: because it's a family day and family days in Britain

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Speaker 2: are really cool. That's where they roll out lots of

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Speaker 2: police and they bought up the shops because things get

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Speaker 2: slightly out of control on family days. Fourth person's been

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Speaker 2: stabbed this year. What can I tell you about the

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Speaker 2: arrest Sixteen people held for assaulting emergency workers, for for

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Speaker 2: sexual offenses, one for a firearm good family day out.

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Speaker 2: Thousands of officers deployed seize forty one weapons. One of

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Speaker 2: the people arrested was a man wanted for attempted murder.

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Speaker 2: The Met Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner aide Alakin said the

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Speaker 2: carnival was supposed to be a family day but was

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Speaker 2: marred by unacceptable barness.

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Speaker 6: It sounds like there was quite a range of activities

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Speaker 6: and it would have been fun for the entire family.

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Speaker 2: Cool place, Britain, five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs. It's the bizz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber and take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: The insight into how SME is a feeling about our

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Speaker 2: government this morning. Confidence is growing, that's the good news.

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Speaker 2: The general theme mains no shortage of work to do.

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Speaker 2: This is the NYOB survey. More than five hundred SMEs

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Speaker 2: smeeze government gets a median score of six out of ten.

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Speaker 2: Thirty nine percent of neither satisfied nor dissatisfied. Thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent are satisfied twenty seven percent of dissatisfied. Main positive

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Speaker 2: for the government is the overwhelming support for the cutting

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Speaker 2: of the red tape and regulation. They still appear unsure

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Speaker 2: to the Smeeze of how the coalition is going to

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Speaker 2: help them. Forty six percent of respondents are unclear on

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Speaker 2: the strategy to help grow business. That compares with forty

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Speaker 2: one percent who are issues facing Smeeths not change overhead cost,

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Speaker 2: fuel prices, high interest rays, falling revenue the main problems

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Speaker 2: and in terms of preferred Prime Minister Chris Luxen forty

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Speaker 2: five percent, Chris Hipkins twenty one, David Seymour and closed

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Speaker 2: Warbricks six. Winston Peters is on five. So that's your run.

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Speaker 2: That's your view of what's going on as far as

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Speaker 2: the s Smeeths are concerned. Right, so here's your problem

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Speaker 2: with the oil and gas. The ban is being lifted.

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Speaker 2: You can go and explore. This is good. We need

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Speaker 2: to go find some oil and we need to go

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Speaker 2: find some gas because you might not have noticed the

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Speaker 2: reign of the South Actually I'll top you up on

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Speaker 2: that along with the lakes. But a little bit of

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Speaker 2: rain in the South Island's help matters, but right now

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Speaker 2: we simply don't supply enough of what we need in

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Speaker 2: this country. Labor being as helpful as ever, have come

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Speaker 2: out and said if and when we get re elected

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Speaker 2: to government, we will then ban it again. So if

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Speaker 2: you're one of those international operators who goes, shall I

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Speaker 2: invest in New Zealand or shall I not? None of

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Speaker 2: this helped, so we'll look at our international reputation. Also,

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Speaker 2: some very good news around housing. Beans that have had

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Speaker 2: a look at what's going on in the housing market

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Speaker 2: and they're seeing what I'm seeing at the moment. There's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of life there, there's the sniff of

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Speaker 2: optimism in the air, and they think so it's a

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Speaker 2: survival twenty five thing. A lot of listings about the

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Speaker 2: place at the moment, so the increasing demand at the

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Speaker 2: moment will mop up the increased listings. Then we go

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. They're picking seven percent next year,

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Speaker 2: which is getting back to normal. All of this is good,

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Speaker 2: so we'll look at this as well after the news, which.

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Speaker 1: Is next the breakfast show. You can trust the mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the range the Villa designed to intrigue

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Speaker 1: and use togs.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven to on the oil and gas debate,

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Speaker 2: Labours announced that if and when they return to power,

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Speaker 2: they will reimpose the oil and gas band. So what

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Speaker 2: sort of message does that send a potential license operators.

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Speaker 12: We're opposed to the removal of the band on new

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Speaker 12: oil and Guess expiration off sure when we would reinstate

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Speaker 12: be again.

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Speaker 2: So the CEO of Echelon Resources formerly New Zealand Oil

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Speaker 2: and Guess, Andrew Jefferies, is with us on This's Andrew

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Speaker 2: Morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mixed messages and does that hurt our reputation internationally?

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Speaker 14: Look, I think the obviously the message there from the

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Speaker 14: Labor Party wasn't particularly mixed. I think there I think

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Speaker 14: it's an enormous shot in the foot for the country

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Speaker 14: because I think it will affect our international reputation. You

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Speaker 14: can't legislate the laws of physics, and if you're going

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Speaker 14: to have a mainly renewable power system, you really need

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Speaker 14: to have secure backup and gas can provide that backup.

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Speaker 14: So locally, gas can provide the backup for us, and

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Speaker 14: you know it can be our gas developed from our fields.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't affect our balance of payments in a negative

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Speaker 14: way provides jobs, it provides taxes, provides us with security.

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Speaker 14: So you know, in low cost cost energy, you can

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Speaker 14: import that energy from overseas, but then you're giving away

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Speaker 14: the jobs. We've got to find the money to pay

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Speaker 14: for the pay for the energy, and you're not raising

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Speaker 14: the taxes likely, so you're going to force down the

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Speaker 14: standard of living for the country.

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Speaker 2: I noticed a twang of Australian there, Andrew, how is

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Speaker 2: it if you can explain to me, the labor government

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Speaker 2: of Australia gets it. The labor government or labor opposition

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand does not.

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Speaker 14: Look I think I'm a engineered by background, Mike. So

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Speaker 14: I think this is going into the realms of psychology

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Speaker 14: than engineering, because look, the labor government in Australia is

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Speaker 14: representing it's it's the people who vote for it, which

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Speaker 14: are generally folks who want to have jobs, and they

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Speaker 14: are they and so they get it. Look, Australia is

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Speaker 14: six yips in coal. It definitely needs a transition and

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Speaker 14: gas is the only means to do it. So the

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Speaker 14: world's largest battery, which is in Adelaide, looks South. Australia

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Speaker 14: has done a great job of becoming renewable, but it

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Speaker 14: relies on electrons that are piped in from other states

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Speaker 14: from coal fire power stations to provide security. And it's

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Speaker 14: also got a very large battery. That very large battery

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Speaker 14: can hold Adelaide for about seven minutes, so you know

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Speaker 14: these are battery technology has not got to the point

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Speaker 14: where it can hold a grid for a long period

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Speaker 14: of time.

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Speaker 2: So here's here's the problem up up until the crisis

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Speaker 2: we're facing at the moment in this country. You can

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Speaker 2: run theory until you blue in the face, and the

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Speaker 2: Labor Party did. But when mills are closing and jobs

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Speaker 2: are being lost because we literally cannot afford power, the

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Speaker 2: system doesn't work. I mean, it's that simple, isn't it.

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Speaker 14: It really that simple. You know, you need cheap energy

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Speaker 14: is at the root of our whole way of life.

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Speaker 14: There's just no way around it. We need that energy

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Speaker 14: for you know, for cooking, for cleaning, for running electric

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Speaker 14: motors and factories, and you need when you build a factory,

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Speaker 14: you not only need reasonably priced energy so that you

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Speaker 14: can run your electric motors, but you also need to

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Speaker 14: know that it's going to be there when when you

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Speaker 14: turn the on switch, so you have to have that

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Speaker 14: liability around your basic energy supply, and there's just nowhere

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Speaker 14: around it. As I say, you can't legislate around the

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Speaker 14: laws of physics.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Good on Andrew, appreciated very much. Andrew Jeffries, who's

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Speaker 2: Echelon Resources CEO, over us this morning. It's eleven minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven. Rain in the South Island, of course, so

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Speaker 2: Meridians need for hydro generation from Wayataki that's been reduced

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Speaker 2: forecast for much of the week and next week at

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Speaker 2: Mount Cook and Techapo good Fjordland Manipuri. Storage that's now

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Speaker 2: above average for the first time since June. A lot

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Speaker 2: of wind too. That's allowed Meridians six wind farms to

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Speaker 2: produce daily totals of nine gigs more than they have

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Speaker 2: been over the last week. So hopefully things are starting

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Speaker 2: to come right. So other matter has got some good

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Speaker 2: news on housing if you want it from ben Z

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Speaker 2: next year we'll see some serious growth and prices they're

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Speaker 2: calling seven percent. The B and Z chief economist Mike

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Speaker 2: Jones is with us on this Mike Morning.

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Speaker 7: To you.

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Speaker 2: It's way Mike, with what level of confidence. Do you

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Speaker 2: say this.

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Speaker 16: Look about the average level of confidence, which is low

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Speaker 16: in terms of the pinpoint number it sounds from. Forecasting

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Speaker 16: house prices as twelve or twelve months or longer in

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Speaker 16: advance is always a tough ass. I think what we're

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Speaker 16: talking about, though, is just factoring in the change and

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Speaker 16: fundamentals that we're seeing, which are lower mortgage rates, and

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Speaker 16: matching those up against what is a pretty dismal set

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Speaker 16: of other fundamentals when it comes to things like the

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Speaker 16: economy and the paper market. So you put all those

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Speaker 16: things together to next year where we are starting the

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Speaker 16: factor in an upturn in house prices. Nothing too spectacular.

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Speaker 16: It's pretty much just an average sort of number when

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Speaker 16: you think about house price increases in New Zealand over

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Speaker 16: the past few.

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Speaker 2: Decades, although seven percent a lot better than what we've had.

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Speaker 2: Do you see any real reaction to the one ocr

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Speaker 2: cut or are we needing to see two, three or

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Speaker 2: four before we're guns are blazing.

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Speaker 16: We haven't really seen anything hard or any hard evidence

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Speaker 16: so far. Certainly some sine anecdote and some speculation and

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Speaker 16: perhaps a bit more confidence on the part of buyers

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Speaker 16: as you might expect, But we have seen really that

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Speaker 16: come through in the numbers just yet, and lot our

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Speaker 16: expectation for this year is that housing market stayed more

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Speaker 16: or less in the same position that it's been for

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Speaker 16: the past couple of years, which is not really going

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Speaker 16: anywhere fast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, supply side on construction, so if we start buying houses,

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Speaker 2: start getting a bit of a fizzle on the builders

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Speaker 2: start swinging hammers.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Look, I would expect that impact to come through eventually.

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Speaker 16: It's going to take some time, Certainly. All the anecdote

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Speaker 16: feed that we get and the numbers as well say,

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Speaker 16: at the moment it's just the numbers don't add up

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Speaker 16: for construction and the cash flow impacts are too great,

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Speaker 16: and so I think it's going to take some time.

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Speaker 16: It's going to take the housing market to turn and

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Speaker 16: just rates to come down further before we start to

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Speaker 16: see that feed through onto the supply side and construction activity.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Mike, appreciate your expertise, Mike Jones, Ben said

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Speaker 2: cheap Economist, How funny was Andrew Jeffies Australian Labor Party

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Speaker 2: tend to be supported in both for by people who

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Speaker 2: like jobs. Jinny Anderson's got a hard road to Hoe

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Speaker 2: after can tell you that fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: Shake up and the aviation industry, both from the CIA's

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Speaker 2: point of view and airlines point of view, Prices on

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Speaker 2: time off, time, cancel flights, all that stuff was announced yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get some detail for you after seven to

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Speaker 2: thirty meantime at seventeen past amid the chaos and catastrophe

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Speaker 2: of this dreadful rummer rummer triple fatal crash that we're

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Speaker 2: finding out that witnesses are filming and streaming the wreckage.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was disgusting.

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Speaker 3: There were close ups with people to cease in the

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Speaker 3: van and injured long on the road, and I say to.

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Speaker 10: The people that are filming there, how did you feel

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Speaker 10: if that was your family?

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Speaker 2: A good question. That's the police, of course. So what's

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Speaker 2: the say about us? Clinical psychologist Google Sutherlands where this's

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Speaker 2: Gogle morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: What's the say about us in very general terms? Or

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Speaker 2: is it just a small group of us that would

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Speaker 2: I mean, I find it abhorrent, weird, unusual, nutty, strange.

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Speaker 2: Is that for most of us or what.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think there's a strong human interest in death

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Speaker 4: and sex, and if you go back historically, people were

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Speaker 4: always into looking for things like public execution. So I

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Speaker 4: think there's a human, innate human interest in death. But

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Speaker 4: I think what we see in this situation is this

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Speaker 4: real gratuitous use of cell phones and social media to

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Speaker 4: broadcast that further. So I think you've got that innate

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Speaker 4: human interest, and then mixed on top of that, you've

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Speaker 4: got this, you know, you've got this social media pressure

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Speaker 4: where we do everything we can for clicks and likes,

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Speaker 4: and that makes us popular. And I think you know

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Speaker 4: now it's sort of the thing to do if you're

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Speaker 4: at a public event, you pull out a cell phone

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Speaker 4: and start filming it, whether that's good or bad. And

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Speaker 4: I think it's a salutary reminder for us to actually

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Speaker 4: stop and check what the heck we're doing when we're

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Speaker 4: enter something like this and we've got our cell phone

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Speaker 4: with us.

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Speaker 2: So it's where the line. Do you film somebody who's

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Speaker 2: slightly old looking down the street? Then do you film

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Speaker 2: the fight that breaks out all the knife and then

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Speaker 2: do you stop on the motor and film the death?

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Speaker 2: And so we're discovering where that line and maybe there

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Speaker 2: is no line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. I actually there was an incident. There

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Speaker 4: was a police incident outside my workplace a couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, and you know there were thirty people standing

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Speaker 4: around and half of them would have had a cell

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Speaker 4: phone with them. Look, and I think we need to

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Speaker 4: take responsibility. Obviously, those people that are filming need to

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Speaker 4: take responsibility. But we have some power too in this

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Speaker 4: as consumers. We can block people, and we can unfriend them,

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Speaker 4: and we can report them to the social media platforms

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Speaker 4: for filming this kind of stuff. The last thing we

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Speaker 4: want to do is comment on their social media posts,

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Speaker 4: even if it's negative, because that will just feed the

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Speaker 4: algorithm and make them more and more popular, which is

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Speaker 4: what really helped drive some of that behavior.

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Speaker 2: Good tips, Dogle, appreciate it, Google Southerland. Political psychologists, Come on, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you must know Labors right and we're all wrong. It's

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Speaker 2: the way it works in the socialists. Well, this is

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Speaker 2: this is the thing that absolutely fascinates me. And you've

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Speaker 2: you've got to listen to Question Time as well. People

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Speaker 2: like Chloe you can allant most excuse her because she's

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Speaker 2: so blinded the real world. But this has gone from theory.

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Speaker 2: This is what fascinates me. This has gone from theory

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Speaker 2: to reality right in theory. And this is the other

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Speaker 2: odd thing about it. There's nothing wrong with renewables. We

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Speaker 2: all like renewables. Renewables are fantastic. Let's be one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent renewable until we work out we can't because it's

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Speaker 2: too expensive. But let's be as renewable as we possibly can.

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Speaker 2: We're all on board with that, we all agree with it.

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Speaker 2: But not when the lights don't work, not when the

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Speaker 2: jobs get lost, not when the mills don't open anymore.

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Speaker 2: The system literally doesn't work. So we've gone from theory. Oh,

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Speaker 2: will ban oil and gas and we'll have some solaro

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Speaker 2: really cool to reality. What's Oh, you've lost your job,

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Speaker 2: have you? And then still at that point, they still

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Speaker 2: not happy about their lack have been put into the

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Speaker 2: government's foreshore plan to revert a court ruling back to

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Speaker 2: the original intent of the law as it was passed

871
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Speaker 2: in two thousand eleven. Goldsmith it was reported said customary

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Speaker 2: title will drop to five percent. TV one fell over

873
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Speaker 2: themselves breathlessly reporting this as some sort of scandal on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Come Monday, in the PM's post cabinet session, they try

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Speaker 2: and get more detail. The PM quite clearly says the

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Speaker 2: reason the government are doing what they're doing is because

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Speaker 2: the court is overreached and what the Government of the

878
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Speaker 2: day intended has been distorted. An amendment of Section fifty

879
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Speaker 2: eight is how they're going to address this. The original

880
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Speaker 2: law was simple, if you can prove you had uninterrupted

881
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Speaker 2: access to the foreshaw since eighteen forty, you've got a case.

882
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Speaker 2: If you can't, you haven't. Groups who didn't like the

883
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Speaker 2: law or the government went to court. The court, being activist,

884
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Speaker 2: got overly involved and we ended up where we are.

885
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Speaker 2: All The government, as the PM was it pains to

886
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Speaker 2: tell the assembled press wanted to do was make the

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Speaker 2: law the law, and why are because they're the government

888
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Speaker 2: and that's what governments do. As far as I am

889
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Speaker 2: aware as a consumer of the news that but wasn't

890
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Speaker 2: reported by yesterday some media I notatee both state funded. Funly,

891
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Speaker 2: we're still banging on about Goldsmith and as five percent.

892
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Speaker 2: The point they're missing and I suspected is courts don't

893
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Speaker 2: make the law. Governments do. If you want to mark

894
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Speaker 2: Goldsmith down a bit, I mean maybe he shouldn't free

895
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Speaker 2: wheel with numbers given if you apply just a little

896
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Speaker 2: bit of brain power to it. No one knows what

897
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Speaker 2: the actual number by way of a percentage will be

898
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Speaker 2: when it comes to access. But it wasn't a scandal,

899
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Speaker 2: It wasn't a gotcha moment. It was a passing comment

900
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Speaker 2: in a meeting about the intent of the government of

901
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Speaker 2: the day and what they were going to do to

902
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Speaker 2: address what they see as an activist court that had

903
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: distorted intent around an increasingly fractious subject. This would be

904
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Speaker 2: another example I think of an activist media taking the

905
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Speaker 2: side of an activist court and trying to drum up

906
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Speaker 2: scandal around a government They don't like on a law

907
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: they like even less. And if you apply logic and

908
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: follow it as I have, failing ask the New Zealand

909
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: media should be bombarding Chippy about why he effectively advocates

910
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: for the burning of dirty imported coal plus the ongoing

911
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: loss of New Zealander's jobs due to their stance on gas.

912
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Speaker 2: How you stand up and defend the loss of jobs

913
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Speaker 2: right here, right now, not down not you know, oh

914
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Speaker 2: one day when all the wind is blowing and all

915
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Speaker 2: the windmills are out to see, not one day right here,

916
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Speaker 2: right now. How do you defend your stance when people

917
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Speaker 2: are losing jobs? And that's the other irony, of course

918
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Speaker 2: they never address. It's the importation of coal because we've

919
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: got no gas and we still need the lights. What

920
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Speaker 2: do they do? They go for the colt I knowe

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Speaker 2: the Wellington Regional Council, by the way, have decided in

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Speaker 2: their wisdom that they will be going to a vote

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Speaker 2: next year as part of the local body elections on

924
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Speaker 2: these Maori wards. So once again to reiterate, councils under

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Speaker 2: a new law have to one get rid of Marie

926
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Speaker 2: Ward's next election or if they want maray wards. And

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Speaker 2: what to see them potentially continue. They've got to hold

928
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Speaker 2: a referendum. Locally, Wellington Greater Council has decided they want

929
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Speaker 2: to continue them. They like them, they're good, so they're

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Speaker 2: going to hold a vote. And I think, in the

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Speaker 2: grand ole of things, I probably support it. Not the

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Speaker 2: marray Wards obviously, but the right to vote. I think

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Speaker 2: if I was going to do one of two things,

934
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Speaker 2: do you just kill them and save a bit of

935
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Speaker 2: money fair enough, not a bad argument, or do you

936
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Speaker 2: actually put it to the people, I'd put it to

937
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Speaker 2: the people because I'm a fan of democracy. What they'll find,

938
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Speaker 2: of course, is when they do put it to the people,

939
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Speaker 2: between seventy and eighty percent will say no, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We don't want Mary Wards because history tells us this.

941
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Speaker 2: But at least you had the chance to have a say,

942
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Speaker 2: and you can't really argue against democracy. Can you stand

943
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Speaker 2: by for the news? Which is next? Your news talks

944
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Speaker 2: Edben What.

945
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: Big News, Bold opinions, the Mic Hosking, Breakfast with Bailey's

946
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Speaker 1: Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial and rural

947
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Speaker 1: news talks head Been.

948
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Speaker 2: Jane Politics Wednesday after eight twenty three. Away from it

949
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Speaker 2: Now for a man who seems to have a lot

950
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Speaker 2: of portfolios that require a lot of change. Simmy and

951
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: Brown strikes again. This time Aviation airlines are going to

952
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: be required to give monthly reports on flight delays and

953
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Speaker 2: cancelations as well as the fares they're charging. Transport Minister

954
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Speaker 2: Simeon Brown with us good morning, good morning as regards

955
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Speaker 2: aviation the several moving parts to this and will work

956
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: our way through it. In general, how much does the

957
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Speaker 2: sector need a shake up?

958
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Speaker 10: Oh?

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00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 12: Look, I think coming out of COVID this the sector

960
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 12: is needing a shake up in terms of whether it's

961
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 12: CIA needing to be back on to on time performance.

962
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Speaker 12: When it comes to as abset qs certifying their clients.

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00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 12: In regards to aviation bodies who are trying to get

964
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Speaker 12: licenses tofy and do business in New Zealand, I think

965
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Speaker 12: it's getting too hard. So we need them to be

966
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Speaker 12: actually more responsive to the needs of our industry. And

967
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Speaker 12: also we need airlines to be making sure that they're

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Speaker 12: actually operating on time and there's more transparency around price.

969
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 12: Yesterday's announcements, we're all around saying look, we've come from COVID.

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00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 12: We know it's been tough, but actually Aviation plays a

971
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Speaker 12: critical role in our economy and we need to be

972
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Speaker 12: a competitive player and every single part of the industry

973
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 12: needs to be doing. It's a bit government and industry,

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Speaker 12: so sure we are a competitive country to do business

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Speaker 12: with and to grow the sector.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to the planes in the moment.

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Speaker 2: As regards the CIA, all their problems, their fees and culture,

978
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Speaker 2: are they up to it?

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Speaker 12: Well, we'll replaced the board. We've put a new board

980
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 12: in place with some red experienced people there to help

981
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Speaker 12: bride close outcomes around on time performance for air seek,

982
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Speaker 12: making sure that we have a much faster certification time

983
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Speaker 12: frames for aviation players in New Zealand, and also to

984
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Speaker 12: address some of those challenges that have been in the

985
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Speaker 12: media around culture. So new board, they've got a very

986
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 12: clear task as to what they need to do and

987
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Speaker 12: they certainly up to it to make those changes.

988
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: All right, the planes when they report and say that

989
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: the X procedage didn't turn up on time, then what happens, Well,

990
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Speaker 2: oftenly it's.

991
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 12: About public reporting. It's about providing transparency that we don't

992
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 12: have at this stage. This is sort of what we're

993
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 12: doing at this stage, just saying it look a bit

994
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 12: more transparency. We're not putting any anything further in beyond

995
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 12: that at the stage, but I think the first step

996
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 12: is in the public want to see is what is

997
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 12: the actual on time performance of airlines in New Zealand.

998
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 12: So that's what the Ministry of Transport. They're already collecting

999
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 12: the data. They're going to be publishing the first report

1000
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 12: next month to help provide that transparency. And I said

1001
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 12: also looking at getting greater transparency around airfares so the

1002
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 12: public can actually stand what are the prices that people

1003
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Speaker 12: are paying.

1004
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but once you've got that transparency and I tell

1005
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: you it's too expensive and there are a crap airline,

1006
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: are we going to do anything about it or just

1007
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: put up with it?

1008
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 12: Well, I think then we can look at what other

1009
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 12: options there are that we can look at it this

1010
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 12: stage and know Australia has been looking at this, United

1011
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 12: States has. I think a step which we've here is

1012
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 12: if you when you start publishing that data many countries

1013
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 12: have been doing this since the nineteen nineties and when

1014
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 12: you catch that, all.

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00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: Right, appreciate it to me and Brown Aviation Aviation Minister,

1016
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: Transport Minister twenty minutes away from a past Quite recently

1017
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Speaker 2: at a zoo trip, my daughter in law took a

1018
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: heavy fall with her little boy on her shoulders. All

1019
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: of her friends took out their phones and filmed it.

1020
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Speaker 2: So something weird. I just because I don't film and

1021
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: do well. I'm not a tech person. I just it's

1022
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Speaker 2: just beyond me.

1023
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: Do you know how to open the camera on your phone?

1024
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Speaker 2: That's one of the major issues. So here's the irony

1025
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Speaker 2: of ironies talking about oil and gas across the testment

1026
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Speaker 2: in Australia, there is quote unquote this is what I'm

1027
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: reading just yesterday. One of the fuel giants in that

1028
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Speaker 2: particular part of the world, Weber Energy. They own a

1029
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Speaker 2: July oil refinery, they own Shell they owned Liberty petrol

1030
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Speaker 2: station chains. Anyway, they've got major Well, let me explain

1031
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: growing recognition that time is running out to stop crippling

1032
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: gas shortages heading homes and businesses as it prepares to

1033
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: resubmit a bid for approval to start importing liquefied gas

1034
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: into Geelong. Rapid declines from the giant offshore gas fields

1035
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: and Bass Strait intensified warnings that supplies the tightening in Victoria,

1036
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Speaker 2: New South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania during winter and

1037
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Speaker 2: could be in deficit by twenty twenty eight. Large volumes

1038
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: of Queensland production locked into long term export contracts, Pipeline

1039
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: limitations restrict how much gas can flow south on days

1040
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: of heavy demand, and gas from Wa cannot be transported east.

1041
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: It was close to submitting fever resubmitting its environmental studies

1042
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 2: to extend a refinery peer at Corrier Bay to park

1043
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: a vessel capable of receiving LNG cargoes from other parts

1044
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: of Australia or overseas and turn it back into vapor.

1045
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: So they've got a problem. They've worked out the problem.

1046
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: They're trying to solve the problem. Meantime, Old Dumpty Doo

1047
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: New Zealand has completely run out. Now in relation to that,

1048
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: the LNG, the stuff that we're looking at, I'm assuming

1049
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 2: we're looking to get it from Australia if we build

1050
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: the infrastructure, clear of the regulatory hurdles and get on

1051
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: with it. But you can see that they've got problems.

1052
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: And if they've got problems and a lot of their

1053
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Speaker 2: stuff is locked into long term contracts, we might end

1054
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: up having problems getting access to it. So that's that's

1055
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Speaker 2: a red flag. Remember where you heard it first?

1056
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Speaker 1: Eighteen two good the Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

1057
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at b.

1058
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Certain forty five. Tail of two stories. So a little

1059
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Speaker 2: bit of reporterage just handed to me this morning from

1060
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Speaker 2: our very good friends at the state funded Radio New

1061
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Speaker 2: Zealand headline. Low pass rates in new online NCEEA Literacy

1062
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Speaker 2: numeracy and tests worry secondary teachers. So I go to

1063
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Speaker 2: the story. This is the latest NCEEA literacy and numeracy tests.

1064
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Speaker 2: A lot of people have failed. Most recent round of

1065
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Speaker 2: testing was in May in maths fifty four hundred sixty

1066
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Speaker 2: eight SAT the test, thirty one hundred ninety six failed,

1067
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Speaker 2: or in other words, fifty four percent failed. In reading.

1068
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Speaker 2: This is the second part of the story. In reading,

1069
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Speaker 2: fifty four percent of MARI students and sixty three percent

1070
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Speaker 2: of Pacific students failed. In writing, fifty five and fifty

1071
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Speaker 2: six percent failed. So I'm immediately looking for where are

1072
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: all the rest of the people, and in this is

1073
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: the tale of the two stories. One the reportage on

1074
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Speaker 2: the failure rates or pass rates if you like, of

1075
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Speaker 2: the latest NCEEA literacy reading testing and two, the media's

1076
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: ongoing fascination worth culture and race. So one I'm suggesting

1077
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: to you is I'm immediately looking for all the other

1078
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Speaker 2: students who don't happen to be Maria Pacific Island. Where

1079
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: are their results? And there aren't any. You cannot see

1080
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Speaker 2: them in the story. They have disappeared from the story

1081
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: because they were never there. So what is this ongoing?

1082
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: So in other words, the media's problem is they immediately

1083
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: hone into the negative, hence low pass rates in new

1084
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: online NCA literacy. So, according to Radius zeal And, all

1085
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: you need to know about is how Mari have done

1086
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: and how Pacific Island have failed. How everyone else has

1087
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: done is completely irrelevant because it's not in the story.

1088
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: So I say to the appropriate people on this program,

1089
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: go find me the real facts. So here are the

1090
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: real facts. In reading European sixty eight percent pass rate,

1091
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: Asian fifty six percent, mariy forty six and Pacific IEM

1092
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: thirty seven. That's a complete picture. That's what you want?

1093
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: Is that not what you want? Do you want the

1094
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: complete picture or do you just want the Radio New

1095
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: Zealand version, which is just the cultural picture? In writing

1096
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: European sixty two percent, Asian fifty three percent, Maurray forty five,

1097
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Pacific forty four, numerously European fifty three, Asian fifty two,

1098
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Marray twenty nine, Pacific twenty three. Now, the interesting thing

1099
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: about those numbers is this is the part that's open

1100
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: to interpretation. At a pass rate of sixty eight percent,

1101
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: are you going to yourself not bad or are you

1102
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: going jeez, there's still a long way to go. That's

1103
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 2: up to you to decide for yourself. But at least

1104
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: it gives you a comprehensive picture. So if you want

1105
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: to write a story about how Mari and Pacific are failing,

1106
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: fair enough, that's all you're interested in doing. Or if

1107
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: you're more interested in the whole picture, then maybe things

1108
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: are starting to improve. This is the important part here.

1109
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: Maybe things are starting to improve. The next testing is

1110
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: coming in September, so it'll be fascinating to see if

1111
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: things are improving. Some of the changes being made at

1112
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: the moment in education, whether or not in the curriculum

1113
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 2: and the testing, whether or not that's coming or bearing fruit.

1114
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: So writing European pass rate of sixty two percent, is

1115
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: that reasonable? I mean, when I was at school, if

1116
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: I got sixty two percent, I mean, little chort of

1117
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: the miracle. I'd be happy Asian fifty three percent. So

1118
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: you've you've got a race based problem. I fully accept that,

1119
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: but it's not the whole picture, and you need to

1120
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: know the whole picture. So in other words, what they

1121
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: try and paint is a story of a failing education

1122
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: system of people who, if they go to school, go

1123
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: to fail. And when you look at the complete numbers,

1124
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: doesn't appear to be as bad as they've made out.

1125
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: Maybe things are on the improve. A pass rate to

1126
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: my eye of sixty eight percent not bad. In writing

1127
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: sixty two percent not bad. Numeracy is a problem. Fifty

1128
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: three percent your best number. That's not good, but maybe

1129
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: not as bad as they make out. So once again,

1130
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: the more you know, the better off you are. A

1131
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: living away from eight.

1132
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: Cost breakfast with the range rover Villa, news from it

1133
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: instead of looking back in anger and all the other

1134
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: musical related cliches we could use.

1135
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: The reunion isabek on oas have announced the European too

1136
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: the next year. First shows in sixteen years, if Liam

1137
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: and Nole can keep it together, got fourteen performances planning

1138
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: for Cardiff, Manchester, London, Edinburgh and Dublin. Jonathan Deane is

1139
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: the Times Executive Culture editor, anders with us good morning,

1140
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Good morning. Was there a moment that this was inevitably

1141
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: going to come together or should we all be surprised

1142
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 2: and grateful?

1143
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 6: I think the big moment came well. I think the

1144
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 6: confirmation before the official confirmation came when Liam Gallagher responded

1145
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 6: on Twitter to somebody on Saturday and I basically see

1146
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 6: you down the front with then some expletives, but yes,

1147
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 6: once Liam had said see you down the front, I

1148
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 6: think everyone knew that this was happening. I think the

1149
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 6: inevitability possibly, I think it's so inevitable for a while,

1150
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 6: you know, the glory of the story are the warring brothers.

1151
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 6: But people get older, people move on, and I do

1152
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 6: I just believe it did feel like something's going to happen,

1153
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 6: and it seems like the world's very happy that it is.

1154
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: To make the stick, do they need to be in

1155
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: a room together for a while, answer a few questions

1156
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: and we can get a vibe as to whether they

1157
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: can stand each other or does a photo shoot as

1158
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: the pictures I've been looking at this morning do it?

1159
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 6: I think they will probably get together and do an

1160
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 6: interview together. Like the thing about the Gallagher brothers, which

1161
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 6: I think has always been a glory thank you for journalists,

1162
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 6: is that they like being interviewed. They're brilliant interviews. They

1163
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 6: understand the power of the press. So it isn't even

1164
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 6: so much that they obviously don't need help to sell

1165
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 6: tickets because those tickets are going to fly on Saturday.

1166
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 6: But I think kind of, you know, they need to

1167
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 6: get together and just talk about it, talk about because

1168
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 6: people want to know, and I think they want to

1169
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 6: tell their story. I think also, what's actually the thing

1170
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 6: you said about? You know, are they getting on etc.

1171
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 6: I don't really think that matters with them. They're not

1172
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 6: particularly playful with each other on stage, they never were

1173
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 6: in interviews. They often, like most siblings do, snipe at

1174
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 6: each other. So I think in a way, if they've

1175
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 6: got a truce that will hold in order for them

1176
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 6: to play the gigs, they can be getting on just

1177
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 6: about okay without the need to frankly be best of friends.

1178
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: Do is this a one off to the extent there

1179
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: it is, will do some shows, or is this we're

1180
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: back together, this is a band and we can do

1181
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: this for years to come.

1182
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 6: This is the fascinating question here because I think because

1183
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 6: they've obviously said they definitely going to be doing European

1184
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 6: dates towards the end of the year, I'd be very

1185
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 6: surprised if that doesn't then an extent to outside Europe,

1186
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 6: probably next year, partly because you know, this is the

1187
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 6: huge cavet that they are enjoying it and they haven't

1188
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 6: fallen out on the first show. If they If that

1189
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 6: hasn't happened, I think they will continue. I think it'll

1190
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 6: become a world tour, and then I think the interesting

1191
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 6: thing becomes what do they do about music, because nobody knows,

1192
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 6: which is the big unknown question is like will they

1193
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 6: release new music? Blur died last year and it was

1194
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 6: very good, so will they go down that route? Because

1195
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 6: this is the thing Like to me, part of the

1196
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 6: reason this happened is that Liam has been enjoying a

1197
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 6: very successful run through definitely maybe some huge crowds this year,

1198
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 6: and I think Noel got a little bit jealous of

1199
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 6: his songs being sung to huge crowd but not by himself.

1200
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 6: I think that's part of the reason. But Noel is

1201
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 6: still a very good and very active songwriter, and I

1202
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 6: just feel he might get bored just playing old songs

1203
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 6: again and again. I would bet there'd be an Oasis tracks,

1204
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 6: which would inevitably mean it goes on for longer and longer.

1205
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 2: Which then leads to the question are they still good?

1206
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 6: Oh, it's just as magic if that is the word

1207
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 6: is that? And I think also the reason this will

1208
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 6: work so well is frankly, because nobody has replaced them.

1209
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 6: It's this really interesting thing in pop music in general,

1210
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 6: it's gone towards solo artists, it's gone towards quite instant music.

1211
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 6: What Oasis did was make this music, especially the first

1212
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 6: album and the second to an extent, that was about release.

1213
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 6: It was about freedom. It's about kind of here's the

1214
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 6: drudgery of life. Here's some big anthems to make us

1215
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 6: feel fantastic about our lives and quite hopeful. Nobody's really

1216
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 6: replaced them since they went away, And I think the

1217
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 6: question about whether they're good or not is is it's

1218
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 6: a really tricky one because people say Blur, more intricate songs,

1219
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 6: albums are better lyricists or radio had. Obviously we're more

1220
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 6: pioneering pulp with smart all of this stuff. But those

1221
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 6: people have tiny crowds compared to Oasis. And what's really

1222
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 6: key is that these gigs are going to be packed

1223
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 6: full of people in their teens, people in their twenties,

1224
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 6: because this isn't just a nosalgia thing. Oasis are very,

1225
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 6: very big among a very young audience. And that's that's because,

1226
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 6: like I said, the music does something that hasn't really

1227
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 6: been replaced. It's simple, which I don't mean in an

1228
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 6: insulting way, anthemic rock music, and so yeah, it hasn't

1229
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: been replaced since they went away. So that's why they're

1230
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 6: arguably bigger than ever, which is slightly bizarre. So then

1231
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 6: I guess that kind of does make them good.

1232
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: All right, Jonathan go well with Jonathan Dean. So we

1233
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: got the shows on that part of the world for now.

1234
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I go around the rest of the world.

1235
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: Four minutes away from eighty? Do you need to go

1236
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 2: one step further? How hard is the test? You say,

1237
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: sixty percent pass is not a bad right, but it's

1238
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: pretty simple test. It's interesting you should say that as

1239
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: I've sitt on this pretty good mini many times, father

1240
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: of five, it's not hard to get into EA and

1241
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: the country, and that's what shocks, appalls and saddens me

1242
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: that the pass rate is so abysmally bad because having

1243
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: seen and lived through n CEA Level one, level two,

1244
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: and level three numerous times over, you do wonder just

1245
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: what's going on in schools, whether it be the kid

1246
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: who's not soaking it up, whether it be the teachers

1247
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: not imparting it properly, whether it's the school it's not

1248
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: running the place properly, whether it's parents who don't give

1249
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: the monkey's But you know, to get in CEA is

1250
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: not that hard, Mike. You know that the logic of

1251
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: fighting the Chinese market for wholesale LNG needs to be

1252
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: seriously tested before a dollar is spent. It would be

1253
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: better if we stood on our own feet. However, it

1254
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: will take a lot to retract the global a lot

1255
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: to attract the global explorers. So we'll talk about oil

1256
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: and gas next. After the news.

1257
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic asking

1258
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: breakfast with Veda, retirement, communities, Life your Way, News togs b.

1259
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: To me devon to the girling fantasy. It's a long

1260
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: time getting in, the getting out the the others is

1261
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three Breakthrough Artist of the Year from

1262
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: the ARIA Awards. Australian, of course, are teenage dads. This

1263
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: is their sophomore album. It's called major Domo and the

1264
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: sophomore album comes six years after the release of their

1265
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: debut album, which was back in twenty eighteen. Major Domo,

1266
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: by the way, as a person whose job is to

1267
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: make arrangements or take charge for another who runs the enterprise.

1268
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: We wanted to take that word and explore themes of control.

1269
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes you might be the major Domo season the day,

1270
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: and others you are falling from the sky in a box,

1271
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: unable to do ten to them. It's pasted. Oh well, sorry,

1272
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: said there was a thirteen tracks, forty two minutes Politics Time,

1273
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday, Jimmy Anderson with us along with Mark Mitchell.

1274
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: Morning to both of you, Journey Mark, I'll ask both

1275
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: of you, but given you on the role currently Mark,

1276
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: this this headhunter's thing. Yesterday, fifteen million dollars worth of

1277
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: assets are having to be seized, et cetera, et cetera.

1278
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: How is there something wrong with the law in this

1279
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: country that needs amending that you can surely see an

1280
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: operation of that size and ask yourself the obvious question,

1281
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: which is I wonder if they went to work to

1282
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: earn all that money, and then having answered it with

1283
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 2: the word no, why isn't that stuff enacted faster?

1284
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it is. The law has changed back

1285
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 8: in two thousand and nine around that the round proceeds

1286
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 8: of crime. So the outcome that the judges ruling is

1287
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 8: very very good. Sends a very clear message to gains

1288
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 8: that if they want to appropriate property through ill gotten games,

1289
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 8: then the state and the police are going to take

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Speaker 8: ettion on that. But of course we're constantly sort of

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Speaker 8: scanning the horizon and looking at legislation and seeing whether

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Speaker 8: or not it needs improvement, especially in justice and public safety.

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Speaker 2: Jinny, do you argue the laws are fine the way they.

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Speaker 17: Are changed them after most recently in the last couple

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Speaker 17: of years, so that we slipped the owner. So the

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Speaker 17: criminal their cues has to prove what they got was

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Speaker 17: got legally. Was previously you needed forensic accountants to try

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Speaker 17: improve that they'd got it illegally. So it is much

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Speaker 17: easier now for those processes for restraining and forfeiting illegal

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Speaker 17: foot and gains.

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Speaker 2: So is it mark just the wheels of justice turned

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Speaker 2: too slowly? Because I mean that building that's been seized

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Speaker 2: now that that's been there for years.

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Speaker 17: Yes, teams.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So the short answer is yes, the wheels of

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Speaker 8: justice are turning too slowly, and obviously there's there's a

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Speaker 8: big folks we're doing as the incoming government to make

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Speaker 8: that more efficient.

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Speaker 2: Because it just it's almost struck me as a sort

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Speaker 2: of ironic jinny that I know where these guys get

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Speaker 2: their Harley Davidson's from, and it's not from good legitimate work,

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Speaker 2: so why are they driving them?

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Speaker 17: Were pleased to a good dob and I think flipping

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Speaker 17: that owners so the cronal now has to prove they've

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Speaker 17: got it legally makes it a lot easier for police.

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Speaker 17: I've been to the warehouse where they have all the

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Speaker 17: stuff that have had and they hold it there until

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Speaker 17: the court case is completed. So while they'll take it

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Speaker 17: put it in the warehouse, they still have to go

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Speaker 17: through that process of proving it before they can sell it,

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Speaker 17: and the problem often is it depreciates over that time.

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Speaker 17: But just interestingly in that warehouse is actually a tank.

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Speaker 17: The police have confiscated a tank of someone and it's

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Speaker 17: sitting in there, so waiting for that one to make

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Speaker 17: that soul.

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Speaker 2: Trade me, yeah, you could. You never know what you

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Speaker 2: get for a tank mark, are you sorry? Carry on?

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Speaker 8: Just the other thing that we are doing is that

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Speaker 8: when that legislation went through, a part of the legislation

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Speaker 8: that Jill he was talking about, went through the government's

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Speaker 8: the threshold of thirty thousand dollars above the advice against

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Speaker 8: the advice of the police. The police says we won't.

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Speaker 8: So we're looking at changing that because you know it'll

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Speaker 8: be it'll mean that it's far more effective in terms

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Speaker 8: of being able to cusses ginny.

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Speaker 2: This oil and gas debate, Hipkins comes out yesterday say,

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Speaker 2: if you get back into power, you're going to ban

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Speaker 2: it once again. What do you tell the people who

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Speaker 2: are losing their jobs, you know right now, literally losing

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Speaker 2: their jobs because their employer can't afford to pay power.

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Speaker 2: We don't have the gas, we don't have the supply,

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Speaker 2: and what you were advocating for maybe one day works,

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Speaker 2: that's fantastic. Right now it doesn't. What do you say

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Speaker 2: to them?

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Speaker 17: The problem we have is that there hasn't been any

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Speaker 17: new discovery of guests for over twenty years, and it's

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Speaker 17: not for lack of trying but even if we did

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Speaker 17: find a natural guess, it'd be another five to ten

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Speaker 17: years before it came online. So just pointing to LNG

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Speaker 17: as a solution, it's not going to affect that. The

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Speaker 17: problem we've got is those large generator retailers who are

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Speaker 17: focused on max to my profits and when we have

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Speaker 17: a cold, dry windterilt we've got, they rub their hands

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Speaker 17: because they make a good profit on that. That's the

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Speaker 17: market that's broken.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's okay, So why didn't you fix the market

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Speaker 2: when you had six years to do it?

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Speaker 17: This has been an ongoing This has been an ongoing

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Speaker 17: issue of the generation. And part of the issue is

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Speaker 17: that we need a variety of different ways of addressing it.

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Speaker 17: So you need solar, you need one, you need GFRM

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Speaker 17: or and so there are a number of projects that

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Speaker 17: have been consented that are a new ways of generating electricity.

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Speaker 2: Genny, this is all the theory. This is what I've

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Speaker 2: been hearing from you for the last six years. And

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Speaker 2: I get I mean, I disagree with you that the

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Speaker 2: market's broken, but be that as it may. The fact

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Speaker 2: is right here, right now, we cannot produce power in

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Speaker 2: this country that companies can afford and people are losing

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Speaker 2: their jobs to those people.

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Speaker 17: You say, what, it's a significant problem for New Zealand,

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Speaker 17: and we need to invest in more solar, more people

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Speaker 17: being able to generate schools, hospitals. That's that's the way

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Speaker 17: forward is to have other forms of generation that's not

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Speaker 17: relyingt on hydro and to diversify that. And we will

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Speaker 17: have we need to have more cross hardy agreement on

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Speaker 17: how we get here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mark, I'll give you your say in a moment,

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Speaker 2: Mark Minchell, Jinny Anderson, thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iheartradiow it by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks it Be you talked to me sixteen past eight

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Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson, Mark, you say what

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Speaker 2: in the oil and.

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Speaker 8: Gas a look, energy shortages are driving electricity prices higher,

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Speaker 8: so you know we have to take it. Should secure abundant,

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Speaker 8: affordable energy that families and businesses can rely on and

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Speaker 8: actually have certainty around. And luckily most families have been

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Speaker 8: insulated by the recent price sites, but the impact on

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Speaker 8: businesses has been significant. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 8: our plan is to unleash the energy we need. Mike

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Speaker 8: whether it's renewable soul or wind and hydro or the

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Speaker 8: natural guests. We need to keep your light on instead

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Speaker 8: of dirty Indonesian cold.

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Speaker 2: Problem you've got now is in trying and Shane Jones

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Speaker 2: has talked about this a lot in the house. Is

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Speaker 2: the problem is you've got to go out into the

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Speaker 2: world and you go, right, we're open for business, come

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Speaker 2: on and there as the lice and start exploring why

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Speaker 2: would they When Hipkins yesterday said, the moment we get back,

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Speaker 2: it's off.

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Speaker 8: So Jinny Anderson just said this should be a bipartisan

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Speaker 8: approach to this. Totally agree. So let's see them step

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Speaker 8: forward so that we'll agree to give us some certainly,

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Speaker 8: so that we can get the investment that we need

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Speaker 8: our energy sector, so that we're not placed in a

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Speaker 8: position like we're a banana a public and we can't

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Speaker 8: deliver the energy that we need in our country.

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem though, Jinny, isn't it with with

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Speaker 2: bipartisan approaches, you've got to be sort of in the

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Speaker 2: same room on this. You're not, you do you do?

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Speaker 17: And part of the aue we have is the fact

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Speaker 17: that they haven't found any LNG for twenty years and

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Speaker 17: even if you forget it, it's not going to suck

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Speaker 17: the current problem. So you need a mixture. And I

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Speaker 17: think that's we're investing in bigger solar projects and wind

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Speaker 17: is important to New Zealand given our geography and the

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Speaker 17: benefits we have for generating energy. But I think it's

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Speaker 17: it's unacceptable. It's completely unacceptable that we have big scale

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Speaker 17: businesses in New Zealand that's limiting productivity because we weren't

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Speaker 17: there and able to get the power. They need to

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Speaker 17: keep it exactly.

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Speaker 8: But do we accept it all your energy policies.

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Speaker 17: No, I do not think that. Mark You know that

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Speaker 17: because you know the twenty years we didn't put LNG.

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Speaker 17: So you can cross fingers and hope they're going to

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Speaker 17: find some LNG and great, you know if you do that,

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Speaker 17: but the chances are pretty limited. That's not the solution

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Speaker 17: to the problem we're face. And if you think it's,

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Speaker 17: we're never going to move.

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Speaker 2: But here, just let me step in the middle. You

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Speaker 2: guys seem to be an agreement. We're all actually, we

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Speaker 2: all seem to be an agreement. Renewables are a good idea,

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Speaker 2: and if we all had solar and we all had wind,

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Speaker 2: and we all had some hydro and stuff. All of

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Speaker 2: that's fantastic, but the problem is we don't and we've

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Speaker 2: been caught badly short in the transitionary period. And part

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Speaker 2: of the answers lerg and part of the answers something

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Speaker 2: you see what I'm see what I'm saying. So what

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Speaker 2: you're still arguing ideology, Jinny, But people are losing their

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Speaker 2: jobs while you argue it.

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Speaker 8: That's right, and you need a transition fuel and we

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Speaker 8: do have natural guests and that's what we should be

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Speaker 8: using instead of uh coal, and that's it's just it's

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Speaker 8: it's ironic. It's ridiculous that you've got, especially a labor

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Speaker 8: government supported by the Greens, that we're having to important

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Speaker 8: news coal when we've got natural guess. So there is

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Speaker 8: natural guess available and it's our transition energy and we

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Speaker 8: should have been using it instead of having I don't

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Speaker 8: know it and canceled and you and you canceled any

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Speaker 8: exploration or any harvesting of a get a fuel that

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Speaker 8: we actually need.

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Speaker 13: In no, we didn't.

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Speaker 9: We stopped.

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Speaker 17: We stopt new license. So I was looking at you, Jilly.

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Speaker 2: Once again, that's ideology. All the people with licenses gave

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Speaker 2: them back. They're packed up and went home. They saw

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Speaker 2: there's no fu We're gone.

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Speaker 8: What would you so?

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Speaker 17: What what isn't your government addressed in solar power? Why

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Speaker 17: don't we give schools hospital.

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Speaker 8: We're first, but they're a large but they're a lug

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Speaker 8: process problems. But the problem is the problem is this

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Speaker 8: j If there's no sun and there's no rain and

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Speaker 8: there's no wind, then what do you need a transition

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Speaker 8: energy that is able to fill the gap? And policies

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Speaker 8: put us in an awful position.

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Speaker 2: Quick question before we end, Mark Carmel Seppaloni double dipping

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Speaker 2: on Treasure Island scandal or not?

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Speaker 8: No comment?

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Speaker 2: Why if she wants to, if she wants to as

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Speaker 2: a politician. If you want to go and do some

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Speaker 2: television and get paid for that while you're being paid

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Speaker 2: as an MP, that's okay according to you.

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Speaker 8: That's something for the Labor Party and for the lead

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Speaker 8: of the Labor Party to sort out and figure out.

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Speaker 8: But you know, we're paid to do a job. It's

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Speaker 8: a serious job and you should take it seriously.

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Speaker 17: She donates for that time to charity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's once everyone said, hey, how come you

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Speaker 2: double dipping? She and she suddenly discovered a charity she

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Speaker 2: was going to give to.

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Speaker 17: Her appearance and too salary at the time.

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Speaker 2: Right, do you have time to appear on television reality television?

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Speaker 17: I know, but I would definitely watch it if you

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Speaker 17: were on Mike, because if you're Entry Royland, I think

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Speaker 17: everyone would watch that.

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Speaker 8: It would be really you'd take it out more. It's

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Speaker 8: no question, there's no question.

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Speaker 2: That's no question. I wanted, of course so great and

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you give you guys, you're so

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Speaker 2: off track. Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: It is a twenty one The Mike Costing Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: entered so far, By the way, is still in the

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Speaker 2: lot of fragrances for five thousand dollars. News talk zib

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Speaker 2: dot co dot m z Ford slash win is where

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Speaker 2: you're going. Use talk zibb co dot mz for a

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Speaker 2: slash win. Today's question for the five hundred dollars draw

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Speaker 2: that will announce the winner of tomorrow, Which former Hurricane

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Speaker 2: and Taranaki rugby player is dadah to three current All

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Speaker 2: Blacks including the team captain. So answer that on the

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Speaker 2: website and we'll make the draw tomorrow for five hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars and everyone goes into the draw for Friday for

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Speaker 2: the five thousand dollars worth the compliments of the very

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Speaker 2: nice people. Father's Day at Chemist Warehouse A twenty five. Now, Mike,

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Speaker 2: there's no chance of finding Ellen Gee. Why the labor

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Speaker 2: government gets looking for it?

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Speaker 8: That was it?

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Speaker 2: If I could be bother making the point, I would

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01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,799
Speaker 2: have made the point, and that is as a government,

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Speaker 2: I would take the exploratory license fee. Plenty of people

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01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: in the world want to pay you money to go

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Speaker 2: and have a look. You go, no problem at all,

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01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: go have a look at They don't find anything. They

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 2: don't find anything, the risk is on them and so

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: there's no harm to the environment looking And so why

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 2: they didn't do that, I don't know. And you never know,

1526
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 2: you might find some gas and you might actually solve

1527
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: the problem. Is this a scandal? And this goes back

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Speaker 2: to what we were talking about to a degree yesterday

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: with Brook van Velden, who's announced Part two of the

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Speaker 2: COVID inquiry in this country. Part one, of course not

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01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: being remotely comprehensive, but not covering some of the issues

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Speaker 2: that we want to cover. So they've had to introduce

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Speaker 2: Part two and that will deal with vaccines and all

1534
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Zuckerberg this morning, in a letter

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Speaker 2: to the American Authorities. US House Committee chair, has said

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: he regrets bowing to what he calls pressure from the

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01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 2: Biden administration to sense a content during the pandemic. Some material,

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: including human satire, was taken down in twenty twenty one,

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01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: under pressure, his firm briefly demoted content. Now this is

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01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: this is where it gets separated out and slightly scandalous.

1541
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: His firm briefly demoted content relating to Hunter Biden ahead

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty election. After the FBI warned of

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: a potential Russian disinformation operation. I think the inferences there.

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01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: The FBI came to them and said, hey, listen all

1545
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 2: the stuff on Hunter. We suspect it could well be Russian.

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01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to be pumping that left

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,480
Speaker 2: right and center because an election coming up. Did Zuckerberg

1548
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: go it's not Russian, Hunter's crook? Or did he go, well,

1549
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: it could be Russian, so I might do something about it.

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: It later became clear the content was not part of

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 2: such an operation. It should not have been temporarily taken down.

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: He now argues Government Pressurrey says was wrong. We made

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,879
Speaker 2: some choices that, with the benefit of hindsight and new information,

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Speaker 2: we would not make today. I think that's the whole

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: lesson of COVID, really, isn't it. You know, how much

1556
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: would we do differently today with the benefit of hindsight,

1557
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 2: And so that applies to government, it depies to social media,

1558
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,440
Speaker 2: it applies to conspiracy theorists. The whole kitten kaboodle Australia

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Speaker 2: and Stephen Price is but moments away after the news,

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Speaker 2: which is next. You're on the mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fused the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with the range Rover vi La designed to intrigue

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Speaker 1: and use togs EDB.

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Speaker 2: Mike went to Christape at Minute Maid Stadium in Houston

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Speaker 2: Saturday night. The Man has the Voice of an Angel

1566
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Speaker 2: played all the hits, opened with White Horse, finished with

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Whiskey, before returning to play Traveler for an uncore

1568
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Speaker 2: Miranda Lambert. You never heard of her. There's a voice.

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 2: She opens. She has a lot of fun, huge catalog

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: work from the last twenty years. They sung together later

1571
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: in the evening. Country music renaissance will carry on for

1572
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Speaker 2: a long time with the current crop of artists collaborating together,

1573
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: enjoying and sharing their talents with the world. A very

1574
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: special night. Glad He's coming to New Zealand next year.

1575
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: Yes he is and I am super super Jelly twenty

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Speaker 2: three minutes away from.

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Speaker 11: Nine International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 11: mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: The table Street last morning to you, hey, back to

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Speaker 2: the morning now. The Greens and the Unions and how

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,560
Speaker 2: just tell me about the protest yesterday and all the

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01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: unions and the Greens tie up on the main and

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: all that, where are we at with that?

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 10: The union protest was to see a f MEU around

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 10: the country. Biggest turn out not surprisingly Melbourne. They expected

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Speaker 10: eight thousand. I think they got sixty. Pretty peaceful, but

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Speaker 10: it meant that there was no building activity at all

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01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 10: across Victoria yesterday they warned any building side you pour concrete,

1590
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 10: then you'd have us to answer for. This is not surprising.

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Speaker 10: I mean to see if they used people put into administration.

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 10: Two hundred and seventy of their executives or people that

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 10: run the front office have been stood down. They've got

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01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 10: a job no longer. And this is Canberra flexing muscles

1595
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 10: over that nine report that you and I spoke about

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01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 10: where Vikings had got involved and the whole corruption in construction.

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 10: So they're not going to go away. They're not going

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 10: to go quietly. The biggest impact on federal labor will

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01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 10: be if they withhold any political donations. Now will they

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01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 10: do that potentially? And if they do, there's a big

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01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 10: hole in an election budget that the Labor Party would

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 10: want to use and that applies to every state government

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01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 10: the country as well as for the Greens. Now, Adam

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 10: Van's going to make a speech at the Press Club

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 10: in Canberra today. The Australian has got a prevy of

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01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 10: that speech and I just filled with horror at the

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 10: prospect that Australia in an election might end up with

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01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 10: a minority Labor government. Now that's a real possibility. All

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01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 10: the Poles are saying, Mike, that's probably what will happen.

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01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 10: So how would that look? Well, Labor claims it will

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01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 10: never deal with the Greens. Maybe this speech today will

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01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 10: convince Antony alberniez he not only to say that, but

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Speaker 10: to do that. He's got the option of dealing with

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 10: the Teals. But it depends how the cards fall. Banned

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01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,959
Speaker 10: will say today he wants a five hundred and fourteen

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01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 10: billion dollar tax hit surprise, surprise, on big business in

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01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 10: return for the Greens supporting any Labor government in a

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01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 10: hung parliament. It's been called the robin Hood Reform. And

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01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 10: he will say in the Press Club today that forty

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01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 10: percent tax will be put on companies who have excessive profits.

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01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 10: Now this includes and he named them in this speech.

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Speaker 10: According to today's report, West Farmers that owns Bunnings, Telstra, Woolworths, Coles, JB,

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Speaker 10: High Fight and Ampop. Now I'm no economist, as you know,

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01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 10: but if you run through that line, that's going to

1625
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 10: mean your petrol's more expensive, all of your electronics are

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01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 10: more expensive, your food, your phone bill and anything you'd

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01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 10: go to Bunnings to buy at the weekend. I mean,

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01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 10: this bloke is a lunatic. He tried to do this

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01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 10: in the last selection with his mining super profits tax

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01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 10: and that just ended disaster with the mining industry running

1631
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 10: a big ad campaign. So Adam Bant typically what he

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01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 10: says he needs to do is rob from the rich

1633
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 10: or take from the rich and give to the poor.

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Speaker 2: And what is excessive and who decides and how do

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01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: you measure it?

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Speaker 10: Well, he'll put a number on it. He will say

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 10: that the big four banks, for example, are making billions

1638
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 10: of dollars in profits. That's not healthy, so we need

1639
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 10: to tax them more. So he will put a ceiling

1640
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 10: on he Adam Bant, a Green member for Melbourne. We

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01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 10: will decide how much money, how much profit a company

1642
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 10: can they?

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, unreal, then we got the gold mine. See I

1644
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: can never quite work out. And I was ringing the

1645
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: BHP result yesterday and all the mining you do in

1646
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: the iron, all you make the et cetera, et cetera.

1647
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you go down and

1648
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 2: close a close a billion dollar gold mine because one

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Speaker 2: person mins yep.

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Speaker 10: And this is in New South Wales, central West. There's

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 10: lots of mining activity out there. It's a company called

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01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 10: Regius Resources. They had this gold mine project. They thought

1653
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 10: it'd been tipped up, all the environmental ticks, and then

1654
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 10: along came the nearly installed Environment Minister, Tanya Pu the

1655
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 10: sex She said she had spoken to the local indigenous

1656
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 10: grouping and they have told her that the tailings dam

1657
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 10: on this mine is on indigenous land that needs to

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01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 10: be protected. No one else, including the local community of

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01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 10: the indigenous elders, has complained about it. They were all

1660
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 10: looking forward to the jobs and so this billion dollar

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 10: mine goes out the window. Prime Minister has asked about

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01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 10: it yesterday and he said, oh, well, you know it's

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01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 10: not all over. We can potentially still you put this

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01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 10: mine on if we find an alternative for this tailing

1665
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 10: stamd Well, the mining company says, hang on, there is

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01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 10: no alternative. We've been through all these processes. The locals

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01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 10: in that area screaming people in the pub last night

1668
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 10: when interviewed saying well, we only stayed in this community

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01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 10: because we thought this project was going to go ahead.

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01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 10: It is just that if you look at the wider problem,

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01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 10: the Environment Minister has far too much power and she's

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01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 10: using what's called a Section ten and the mining industry

1673
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 10: in this country today is very upset.

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01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: Where broadly does Australia sit on mining and digging stuff

1675
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: out of the ground and oil and gas and is

1676
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: it out of step with the labor government of the day.

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, the majority of people love it. I mean it

1678
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 10: provides unbelievable jobs. Without mining royalties, the governments of Queensland

1679
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 10: and Wa would be broke. They're not. They're actually the

1680
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,879
Speaker 10: best economies in the country because of those mining royalties.

1681
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 10: You've got the green movement that is vocal. You've got

1682
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 10: younger Australians who have been brainwashed into thinking anything out

1683
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 10: of the ground's a bad thing to do. But the

1684
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 10: Australian economy used to rely on the back of a

1685
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 10: sheet that now relies on mining. Without mining, we can't

1686
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 10: provide the hospitals and the education that Australians need. It's

1687
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 10: just a simple argument, mister.

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01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: Are you have they found the people who had a

1689
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: go at him.

1690
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 10: No, and will they probably not Tarek Aub you speak

1691
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 10: of now. The reason this story is so intriguing for

1692
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 10: all of us is he was known as quote the

1693
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 10: angel of Death. Now that's quite a nickname, isn't it.

1694
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 10: He was gunned down three point thirty in the morning.

1695
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 10: I love this how this has described. He was gunned

1696
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 10: down as he left the apartment of a female acquaintance,

1697
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 10: so clearly these boats have been tailing him for some time.

1698
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 8: He was involved in the death of a bloke called.

1699
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 10: Alan Moradian at Bondi Junction. You might remember those TV picus,

1700
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 10: Remember the guy sitting having breakfast, Yes, and suddenly a

1701
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 10: gunman turned up and let loose and shot this blot.

1702
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 10: Well Ames killing has shot the police because he was

1703
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 10: shot thirty times and it was such a forceful attack

1704
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 10: on him with this fire of these firearms there was

1705
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 10: two of them, that parts of his body were actually

1706
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 10: dismembered as this shooting took place.

1707
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:28,839
Speaker 14: Police.

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01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 10: Look, the police don't mind crooks shooting crooks, but this

1709
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 10: was very blatant. Luckily it was three thirty in the

1710
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 10: morning and they're now confident they can try and track

1711
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 10: these people down. They were driving a stolen Audi that

1712
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 10: had been pinched about six months ago and lay in

1713
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 10: storage until they needed to use it.

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01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: It was a pleasure make go. Well, we'll see your

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Speaker 2: Friday stea price out of Australia this Wednesday morning for us.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just to wrap up Australia, they kept

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Speaker 2: yesterday highly political debate this and it dubtails into what

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Speaker 2: we've been talking about lately of international students, revenue from universities,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. They kept international enrollments yesterday two hundred seventy

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Speaker 2: thousand for next year, which will be they claim roughly

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01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: the same as this year. But a lot of the

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Speaker 2: universities who rely very very heavily on the income from

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Speaker 2: international students are ropeable. Eight forty five The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: A B from nine. I dug up given the beam

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Speaker 2: scandal in Auckland, probably in Wellington, various parts of Australia,

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Speaker 2: and the et scooters. I dug up the piece I

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Speaker 2: read the other day on ees scooters around the world.

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Speaker 2: London's really interesting. London. You don't bother toughest rules of

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Speaker 2: any city in Europe. Basically you can't get one because

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Speaker 2: you've got to download the app, You've got to complete

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Speaker 2: a registration process, you got to verify your age, you

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01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: got to prove your hold a driver's license, and you

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01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 2: then have to do a mandatory course on safe riding

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01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: before you get the first right. So you've given up

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01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:49,560
Speaker 2: ages ago. Barcelona pretty liberal. You can ride on the

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Speaker 2: roads or cycle paths. You can travel up to thirty

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01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 2: k's an hour if you're on a cycle path. The

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Speaker 2: speed's innlimited to twenty five. If the cycle path is

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Speaker 2: on a cycle track or on a footpath or in

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Speaker 2: a pedestrian zones down to ten k's. Gotta wear a helmet,

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01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: got to be fifteen. If you don't follow any of

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01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 2: those rules, they'll ping you between three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: and eight hundred bucks. Paris ban them, good New York sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Nothing on the sidewalk that you can go to forty

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Speaker 2: eight k's so you're flying and you can only hire

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Speaker 2: and return them from the operator's agency. A number of

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Speaker 2: people do that. You can't just leave them on the

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Speaker 2: street the way they do here. You've got to take

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01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 2: them back from where you got them. Copenhagen hopeless introduce

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01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 2: them in twenty eighteen, banned them two years later, then

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01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 2: reintroduce them again a year later, so they've capped the

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01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: number got to be fifteen. Gotta wear a helmet, cannot

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01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 2: be rented from the central part of the city at all,

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01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: and has to be parked in designated zones. Rome. It

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01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 2: was an alternative to public transport in the pandemic. They

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01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: thought that was pretty good. Four people died. Very Italian,

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01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 2: isn't it? Get my way? Must be parked in designated spots.

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Speaker 2: It's tracked. They're all tracked, and it will charge you

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01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: and continue to charge you forever if you don't park

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Speaker 2: it back in the right place. That's an incentive, isn't

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Speaker 2: ten to nine the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News TOG said, you're.

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Speaker 2: Just trying to work my way through the couple of

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Speaker 2: results this morning. As we look at results season, as

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Speaker 2: they call it in the business world, precinct to a

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Speaker 2: property commercial property, net property income is up five point

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Speaker 2: eight percent. Occupancy, which is always interesting to me, is

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Speaker 2: at ninety eight percent six point six years average lease term,

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 2: which is good. Rental growth has been strong in new

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01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: office Lee steals up fifteen point nine percent, rent reviews

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01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: achieving an average of three point four percent reasonable completed

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Speaker 2: forty four Bowen Streets, capital occupancy rates now one hundred

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01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: percent complete redevelopment of Deloitte Center. That's one Queen Street

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Speaker 2: and Aukland. So that's all encouraging. So if you do,

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Speaker 2: if you do commercial property, well, in other words, it's

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Speaker 2: flash place. People are prepared paper at meridianum Meridian, the

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Speaker 2: old power. Let's see how they've done in these very

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01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 2: difficult times. Oh, net profits up after tax from ninety

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01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: five million to four hundred and twenty nine million. There's

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01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 2: a bit of hedging in there, and I won't explain that,

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01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: but don't worry about It's not that they didn't sort

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01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 2: of get it all from us. Ibat DAAR was up

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01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: sixteen percent. Underlying net profits up fourteen percent. Final ordinary dibdend.

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Speaker 2: This is the part I mean. Look, don't know, I'm

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Speaker 2: not anti business, I'm pro business, but it's just these

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01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: these are awkward, awkward times in this country. And when

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Speaker 2: you're handing out dividends of twenty one cents a share,

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01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: you know someone's making some money. And it's called the

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01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: investor in the investor, Well, the investor invests so they

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01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: can go and build some more dams and wind mills

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01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and they get all of that.

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01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: But it's just awkward at this particular time in the

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Speaker 2: economic cycle when there are certain businesses who are just

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01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 2: like going, oh, look at the money. And there are

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01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: other people, of course, as a result of that, looking

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Speaker 2: for work. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now ms Warehouse, the Real House of Fragrances, Making

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Speaker 1: your Money.

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01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 2: Travis and Jason, who are a couple of brothers, not Oasis.

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01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: There are a couple of brothers. They're returning tomorrow for

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01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: the third season of the podcast. That's what they do.

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Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome, whoolcome.

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01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: Was going to bring the James. Why didn't Jason bring

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01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 2: jeans for Jason? You celebrated my touchdown by taking off

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01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: your shirt. This is part of the Jason Kelsey chart.

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01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 10: I knew he had space to score a touchdown.

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01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 2: Show me the aliens, I mean, where are they? Have

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01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: you seen more men cry up? It feels like it's complete.

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 2: It was a funance journey to watch. Oh my god,

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01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 2: you finally did it. What is this looked like the

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01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: thing of goonies man the.

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Speaker 6: Golden baby fist dries.

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01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: Look at that big, ugly baby. I'll be back. Where

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01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: is this show going to go next year? These the

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: Kelsey brothers. One of them plays football, one of them

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01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: used to play football. Trevis plays and he hangs out

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Speaker 2: with a woman you probably heard of. And Jason's the

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Speaker 2: guy and the brains and the one you probably want

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Speaker 2: to listen to. They've just done it.

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Speaker 7: Did we decide that Jason was the better singer of

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Speaker 7: the two when they did?

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Speaker 2: I can't remember. I think Jason's the better everything. He's

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01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: the better bloke, he's the better singer, he's the better podcaster.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't the better player. To be fair, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty million dollar deal, this is Amazon, one hundred

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01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: and sixty million over three years. Do the math that'll

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01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: get They get the money And if you want to

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01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 2: pay for that, you can get it AD free. If

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01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 2: you don't want to get it AD free, then you

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01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: can get it on other platforms. They are the most

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01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: listened to podcast in the US and Canada. They've also

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Speaker 2: been ranked number one sports podcast on Apple in the

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Speaker 2: US and Australia, in Mexico, in Peru, the Philippines, and

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Speaker 2: the Dominican Republic. So good luck with that. Also today,

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Speaker 2: while I'm just on the subject of football of endless

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Speaker 2: interest to me, the NFL they're voting today, the owners

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Speaker 2: are voting today to open the sport up to private equity,

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01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: as in private equity firms, and they can take up

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Speaker 2: to ten percent of a team. In fact, they can

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01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: take up to ten percent. My reading of it is

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01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: they can take up to ten percent of six teams.

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Speaker 2: So football is really owned by individuals. Just they are

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01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 2: largely old white blokes who made a lot of money,

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01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: probably from oil, and they went and bought themselves football

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01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 2: team and they're all worth anywhere between six and about

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01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: ten billion dollars. And so they're trying to bring more

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01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 2: money into the game. And it's a fantastic game, and

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: it's been leveraged up the wazoo. Basketball's done at baseball's

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01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: done at Hockey's done it very successfully. So the football

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01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: are finally going to get around today allegedly wants the

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01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 2: owner's vote for it to bring in the private equity

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01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 2: money as well. It is a big, big booming business.

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01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 2: The wonderful world of sport, and Jason and Travis will

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01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: tell you all about it because they're sharing and the riches.

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01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: It's almost like being an investor in a power company.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

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