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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsweakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge on Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: New Stalk said, be good afternoon. At a seven after four,

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Speaker 3: the government is shutting down a one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: million dollar industry. Greyhound racing gone. Winston Peters made the call,

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Speaker 3: he's with us. After five. Supermarkets could be facing criminal

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Speaker 3: charges over pricing, but will they actually care? Plus eighty

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Speaker 3: four percent of us want physical cash to stay put,

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Speaker 3: to stay in circulation for privacy reasons. So what on

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Speaker 3: earth are we buying? We asked the Reserve Bank after.

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Speaker 1: Six, Ryan Bridge?

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Speaker 3: Why do we in this country, Ryan Bridge, keep kidding

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Speaker 3: ourselves that we can take on the big corporates and win.

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Speaker 3: Why do we keep doing this? Big banks, big supermarkets,

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Speaker 3: big petrol, big tech, big insert anything you hate paying

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Speaker 3: size of Sydney at the bottom of the world. Stuff

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Speaker 3: is more to get here, and in revenue terms, we're

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Speaker 3: a blip on the radar to multinationals. We're an afterthought.

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Speaker 3: I'm not opposed to beefing up kibibank and accepting the

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Speaker 3: ComCom recommendations. But can we stop kidding ourselves that this

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Speaker 3: will make a significant or even material difference to our

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Speaker 3: day to day lives. What did the retail fuel crackdown

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Speaker 3: get us? The supermarkets that report reckoned we were being

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Speaker 3: overcharged a million bucks a day, a million bucks a

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Speaker 3: day in excess profits. They said, whatever that means, So

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Speaker 3: even if we had perfect competition in the market, we

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Speaker 3: would still only get a dollar forty extra per week

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Speaker 3: per person. Sure it all adds up, but come on,

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Speaker 3: if that's everything they reckon going well in an ideal world?

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Speaker 3: Is it going to make a difference? Plus? Our response

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Speaker 3: is often does the opposite. It's more tax and regulation.

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Speaker 3: Is meta Facebook's parent company going to stomach paying a

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Speaker 3: media tax without cutting services or a digital services tax

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Speaker 3: like Labour wanted before the last. Could we whack social

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Speaker 3: media with that and not face retaliatory action. No, we're small,

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Speaker 3: they're big. It's David and Goliath. But we keep kidding ourselves,

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Speaker 3: and our politicians keep giving us this false hope that

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Speaker 3: we can punch above our weight and win. No, we

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Speaker 3: can't and we won't, And when politicians tell us we can,

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Speaker 3: it's retail politics. It's basically nothing. It makes us feel

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Speaker 3: like we have control over something that we don't. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's time we stop the policies of false hope and

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Speaker 3: the politics of false hope, and the politics of bashing

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Speaker 3: big business and started cutting red tape and taxes for

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Speaker 3: them instead. Now here's a radical idea, roll out the

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Speaker 3: red carpet. That's what Ireland did. And now they have

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Speaker 3: so much tax revenue pouring into their coffers they literally

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Speaker 3: don't know what to do with it. They are drowning

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Speaker 3: quite happy with that. They even went to the EU's

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Speaker 3: highest court a couple of months ago. Apple was going

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Speaker 3: to have to pay them twenty three billion dollars in

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Speaker 3: not wanting twenty three billion dollars in tax revenue. That

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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge, this.

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Speaker 3: Gone ten after four News Talk, said b There are

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Speaker 3: z's been given permission to close Gloria Vale's bank accounts.

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Speaker 3: Gloria Vale's lawyer said last month that the loss of

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Speaker 3: banking services will effectively end the community. Benz has made

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Speaker 3: the call after the Employment Court found a number of

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Speaker 3: former Gloria Ail members had worked since the age of

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Speaker 3: six and were subject to physical punishment. Brian Henry was

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Speaker 3: the lawyer who represented those former members and he's with

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Speaker 3: me this afternoon. Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Ryan, Brian. You

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Speaker 3: want the government to step in here, What exactly do

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Speaker 3: you want them to do?

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: Gloriavale is a group of people. There's a leadership who

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Speaker 5: I consider to be part of the dark arts of

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Speaker 5: Gloriavale's assets are their life's work. It is their superannuation scheme,

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Speaker 5: it is their asset. It's hidden trust by the leadership

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: Gloriavale needs to have a statutory manager appointed who takes

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Speaker 5: over control. They need a plan similar to Lake Elis,

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Speaker 5: where they look at all the families help them in

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Speaker 5: Then you look after the victims at the moment. The

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Speaker 5: lot of people inside there still are victims of these perpetrators.

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Speaker 3: So you were saying that the people on the outside

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Speaker 3: money that is owed to them through this organization. It's

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Speaker 5: That there are people inside there who need to be

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Speaker 5: life as free people, not as people with free will

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Speaker 5: it's a double edged sort here. There are people inside

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Speaker 3: What about those who might say, well, the people who

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Speaker 3: are still there, that's their choice. Their adults, No, there's

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Speaker 5: They can't leave. They have practices on them from birth

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Speaker 5: to break their free will. They and I've got evens

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Speaker 5: just recently of girls practicing a dance and the dance

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Speaker 5: is an interpretation of the Bible. If you go to Hell,

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Speaker 5: if you leave Gloriolal. This is a community that is

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Speaker 5: very controlled. They do not have free will in there

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Speaker 5: at all. In fact, free will is driven out of them.

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Speaker 5: They have to be in what's called unity and in

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Speaker 5: submission to the overseeing shepherd, full stop. They have no

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Speaker 3: Okay? Can we so that aside? The BE and Z

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Speaker 3: next year they could be without a bank. Their lawyers

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Speaker 3: say this could end the community as we know it.

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Speaker 3: Can we rule out another bank coming into you give

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Speaker 5: The BE and Z hasn't acted in a capricious manner

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Speaker 5: international law is quite clear you do not have child labor,

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Speaker 5: you do not have forced child labor in banking arrangements.

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Speaker 5: That is well understood international law. But in New Zealand

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Speaker 5: that should not be happening in a first world country,

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Speaker 5: and here it is still going on today, nothing done

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Speaker 5: about it. It's time someone stood up and became accountable

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Speaker 3: Brian, thank you very much for your time this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate it. That's Brian Henry. He's the lawyer who

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Speaker 3: represented those former members of Gloria Vail. Of course there

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Speaker 3: are many still there, hundreds of children still there as well.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen nineteen is the number to text. Lots of feedback

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Speaker 3: coming in on greyhound racing. The industry has been canceled.

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Speaker 3: We're also going to talk to Darcy Watergrave next. He

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Speaker 3: has information on how the industry is reacting to this.

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Speaker 2: All ahead, who will take the White House results and

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Speaker 2: analysis of the US election? On Heather Duplessy Alan Drive

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Speaker 2: with one New Zealand, Let's get connected News Talk, said

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Speaker 2: B Sport with TB get your bed one bit responsibly.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen after four News Talk ZBB. This is a texta

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Speaker 3: has come in excellent about the people are celebrating around

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Speaker 3: the country. Excellent news about the greyhound racing industry being

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Speaker 3: shut down. Now to do the same with the rodeo

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Speaker 3: and the reintroduction of live animal exports. Darcy Watergrave is

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Speaker 3: Talk ZIB Darcy, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 7: And good after baboon to you as well. Look, I'm

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Speaker 7: broadcasting with Ryan Bridge. The things that happen in this industry.

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Speaker 7: A great to have you on board, the depth you

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Speaker 7: are having to don't say that.

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Speaker 4: Don't rip on yourself for a lot. It's a bad idea.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are going to be and are.

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Speaker 3: They're coming in the text are coming and thick and

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Speaker 3: us very happy with us. How's the industry responding to it?

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Speaker 7: Well, we'll find out more about that. Ebl R Now,

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Speaker 7: the CEO of Greyhound Racing, Enz joins the show stub

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Speaker 7: after seven o'clock tonight to talk about Look, it struck

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Speaker 7: them out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: It was a slap in the fact they didn't know.

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Speaker 7: They found out one o'clock this afternoon when everyone else

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Speaker 7: found out, Like I'm sorry, you what you got? Twenty

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Speaker 7: months and we're gone. But they have been investigated now

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Speaker 7: for quite some time, and the push has been toward

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Speaker 7: depowering the industry at least make it safer for the

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Speaker 7: livestock involved. And I've looked at the report and it

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Speaker 7: said it's not safe enough. You're working really hard to

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Speaker 7: do it, but simply it's not working. So you've got

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Speaker 7: twenty months. There are nearly three thousand dogs out there.

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Speaker 7: They've got to be rehomed. They're going to try and

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Speaker 7: help them twenty months to rehome them. They can't be euthanized.

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Speaker 7: There's a quick law, and that's saying you cannot shoot

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Speaker 7: your dogs. And there's about one thousand people involved.

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Speaker 3: In many of them part time apparently, but that's by

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Speaker 3: the by. It's still a thousand people in their jobs.

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Speaker 3: Here's my thing about all of this. It's happened so quickly,

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Speaker 3: you know. They literally Winston Peter's announced it at one

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Speaker 3: o'clock and the legislation has been introduced into the House

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. The idea was that it would stop these

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Speaker 3: dog owners from euthanizing their own dogs.

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Speaker 4: You'd think they wouldn't want to.

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Speaker 7: And every greyhound person you talk to says, we love

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Speaker 7: the industry because we love our dogs. We love breeding

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Speaker 7: our dogs. It's all about our dogs. So from that side, know,

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Speaker 7: why would they wouldn't do it. You've got twenty nine

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Speaker 7: hundred dogs fighting around out there. What do you do

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Speaker 7: with them? Or where do they go? How do they

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Speaker 7: re home? Twenty nine hundred greyhound I don't know how

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Speaker 7: it operates, but they've got twenty months to do it.

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Speaker 7: And I'd say you're devastating for a lot of people,

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Speaker 7: but falling very much in line with the glibal expectations

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Speaker 7: around greyhound racing. There are only five countries left that's

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Speaker 7: say it's.

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Speaker 3: Try to do it, so we're real out in Australia

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Speaker 3: one of them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, of interest, So there's I suppose then you look

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Speaker 7: at the death toll, if you will, and then you

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Speaker 7: look to the bloodstock industry, and I wonder in horse

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Speaker 7: racing how many horses also and whether that expand to that?

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Speaker 7: Now would you see on some peters there's a friend

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Speaker 7: of the industry's turning around and going, you know what,

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Speaker 7: no more horse racing.

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Speaker 3: I don't see that happens competers on the program, So

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Speaker 3: we'll put that to him. Do you all blacks have

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Speaker 3: unveiled their scheduled for next year. Any big surprises, We're

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Speaker 3: not really a surprise.

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Speaker 7: More probably the most keenly anticipated test on his zeland soiling.

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Speaker 3: Can't you tell Darcy's with you? After seven on News Talk,

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Speaker 2: Hard questions, strong opinion, Ryan Bridge on Heather do for

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Speaker 1: News Talk zed B across.

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected and use talks.

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Speaker 2: The'd be no, it ain't like ducking bankers can that's

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Speaker 1: Don't back that help me?

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Speaker 3: It's great to have you come me. Barry Slope is

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Speaker 3: going to be with us shortly. Who could forget this

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on newstalgs Eddy Drive.

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Speaker 3: The NYPD is talking tough after the arrest of a

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Speaker 3: His name is Luigi Manguoni. He's been arrested and charged

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Speaker 11: Here's a message to the criminal element that think that

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Speaker 3: Israel's going on the attack inside Syria. The Israeli Defense

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Speaker 12: I don't think it's set our interest to go through details,

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Speaker 3: Finally, this afternoon, the oldest known wild bird in the

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of mind

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Speaker 3: Australian correspondent to Marry Olds's with us this afternoon, Murray,

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Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank, I've held steady, Yes.

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Speaker 9: Indeed they have very good afternoon, Ryan. The Reserve Bank

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Speaker 9: There's going to be an appeal that would be fascinating.

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Speaker 9: But like I say, mate, wouldn't it be fun to

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Speaker 3: I certainly would be. I bet the food would be good. Murray,

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Speaker 3: thank you for that, Murray. Old see Australia Correspondent with

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Speaker 3: us at eighteen minutes away from five and bread bread

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Speaker 3: Really interesting. What's happening in Europe as a result of

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Speaker 3: what's happening in Syria. So obviously in Syria, the Assad

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Speaker 3: regime has fallen, and every one who fled Syria and

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Speaker 3: fled the regime now living in places like Germany and Austria.

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Speaker 3: What happens to them? The place that they've fled is

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Speaker 3: now a very different landscape. Germany and Austria have paused

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Speaker 3: their asylum applications for Syrians. Isn't that fascinating? And to

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Speaker 3: different degrees, the Austrians have gone a lot harder on

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Speaker 3: this than the Germans have at the moment anyway, So

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Speaker 3: the Interior Minister for Austria says, I have instructed the

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Speaker 3: ministry to prepare an orderly repatriation and deportation program to Syria.

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Speaker 3: Family reunions have been suspended because obviously you've got the

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Speaker 3: far right taking over it in some corners of these countries.

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Speaker 3: Right The problem is much greater in Germany, much bigger

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Speaker 3: in Germany. Roughly ninety five thousand Syrians in Austria, but

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Speaker 3: remember Anglo Merkle took a million Syrians, so the problems

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Speaker 3: much bigger there, and they are going a little bit

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Speaker 3: softer on it, saying we'll wait and see. But in

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Speaker 3: Austria they're already talking about kicking people out. Some right

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Speaker 3: wing politicians in Germany are talking about cash payments to

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Speaker 3: get Syrians out of Germany back to Syria. So a

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Speaker 3: lot happening. There are seventeen minutes away from five news talks, heib.

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Speaker 2: Barry Soper next politics was Centrics credit, check your customers

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Speaker 2: and get payment certainty news talks.

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Speaker 3: Heb it is fourteen away from five. And in parliament

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Speaker 3: that hacker that went around the world many many times.

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Speaker 3: Those who took part now being disciplined. Barry Soper, senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondent with us this afternoon, Burry good get.

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Speaker 14: A and rightly so right, good afternoon. I said at

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Speaker 14: the time that I thought it was the most disgraceful

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Speaker 14: performance I've ever seen in a parliament in my more

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Speaker 14: than forty years of covering it. It was totally totally disorderly.

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Speaker 14: Parliament should never be reduced to that, and the Parliament

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Speaker 14: has to have some sort of sanctity and they just

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Speaker 14: blew it out of the water. And don't be surprised

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Speaker 14: if you see them doing it again because they're being

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Speaker 14: very defined even though they are going before the privileges

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Speaker 14: come out. So parliament began today with the Speaker Jerry

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Speaker 14: Browne rightly saying that the behavior of Labour's PENNI henare

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Speaker 14: now henare didn't go up and remonstrate right in the

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Speaker 14: front of the desk of David Seymour. But he got

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Speaker 14: out into the the corps of Parliament, which he shouldn't be.

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Speaker 14: He should remain in a seat. Debbie Naiwa Packer, who

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Speaker 14: looked as though she was firing a pistol at David Seymour.

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Speaker 14: She denied that, of course, but that's what it certainly

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Speaker 14: looked like. Rawai Waye Tea. He's going to the Privilege

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Speaker 14: Privileges Committee. Hannah Raffiti, myp Clark. She's the one that

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Speaker 14: started it all, although apparently she wasn't meant to begin it.

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Speaker 14: She was handed the legislation and then took it upon

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Speaker 14: herself to do the haka. And look, it was disgraceful

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Speaker 14: and I think they should be dealt with firmly by

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Speaker 14: the Privileges Committee, but as we know, it'll be a

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Speaker 14: slap on the wrist of the old proverbial wet bust ticket.

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Speaker 15: Well.

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Speaker 14: Jerry Brownie, of course, he stood frustrated while they're up

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Speaker 14: to their antics. He had no choice essentially to take

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Speaker 14: the action as he did. As Parliament resumed today.

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Speaker 16: The issues of members leaving their seats to participate in

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Speaker 16: an activity that was disorderly and disruptive to the procedure

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Speaker 16: of the House is something that should be considered further.

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Speaker 16: And I have determined that the actions of the Penna

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Speaker 16: hannare Debi were packer rowery and Hannah Rafitti might be

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Speaker 16: clark and participating in a disruptive activity on the floor

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Speaker 16: of the House on the fourteenth of November gave rise

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Speaker 16: to a question of privilege, which stands referred to the

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Speaker 16: Privileg's Committee.

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Speaker 3: Oh there you go, is going Have they spoken yet

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Speaker 3: about changing the upping the fines the penalties.

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Speaker 14: They in fact they will be talking about They're having

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Speaker 14: a meeting today enough, but that's really more to see

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Speaker 14: whether the huka can be used in the future under

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Speaker 14: the Tea Kunger of right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and look at it.

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Speaker 14: It can be used now, but it's got to be

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Speaker 14: a arrangement with this.

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Speaker 3: Got to be planned, be a ferry decision now. Nicola

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Speaker 3: Willis told us yesterday that Winston's a man of his word,

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Speaker 3: and Winston said it would happen by wednesday. So do

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Speaker 3: we get something by tomorrow.

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Speaker 14: Well, we're getting it this week. Let's say that. And

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Speaker 14: if Winston is amount of us, then we will see

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Speaker 14: it tomorrow, so it's imminent. The you know, the boats

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Speaker 14: that we were buying were far too big, and I

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Speaker 14: think most people accept that because the infrastructure on either

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Speaker 14: side of the Strait couldn't handle these big roll on

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Speaker 14: roll off rail ferries. So I would think you'll see

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Speaker 14: smaller fairies. But it blew out from seven hundred odd

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Speaker 14: million to over three billion dollars and the government was

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Speaker 14: presented with it immediately on taking the Treasury benches. It's

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Speaker 14: been suggested the break fee with the South Ends, because

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Speaker 14: they had started building them, will be in the order

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Speaker 14: of three hundred million dollars, So that's virtually money down

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Speaker 14: the gurgler, which is bloody terrible, but essentially Willis told

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Speaker 14: Parliament today the government had to act, as I said,

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Speaker 14: very quickly on becoming the government because the commitment labor

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Speaker 14: had just made it.

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Speaker 17: It would not have been a good deal for New

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Speaker 17: Zealanders to have shoveled more cash at a failing project

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Speaker 17: which had blown out to more than three billion dollars

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Speaker 17: in cost, and I would say was destined to blow

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Speaker 17: out even further where there were still questions about whether

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Speaker 17: the ships could pass through the Tory Channel. It was

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Speaker 17: a failed project, and the member's defense of it tells

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Speaker 17: me that she does not take value for taxpayers money.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, three billion dollars, Barry, I would expect a bridge

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Speaker 3: across the cook That's right, hed greyhound racing. We've got

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Speaker 3: about a minute left. But this is fascinating from Winston

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Speaker 3: Peter's one hundred and fifty million dollar industry gone.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well here he is giving your leg up to

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Speaker 14: the tab given the exclusive gambling rights yesterday, and then

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Speaker 14: announcing that greyhound racing is for the chop. It's interesting

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Speaker 14: that greyhound racing. It started in my home province of

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Speaker 14: Southland in eighteen seventy six, so it's almost one hundred

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Speaker 14: and fifty years old. I was going to play some audio,

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Speaker 14: but I won't. I know, we're running out of time yet,

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Speaker 14: not of that exactly, but look, I find it really

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Speaker 14: interesting that I tried to find out the figures when

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Speaker 14: it came to greyhound racing that the dog deaths are

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Speaker 14: very very low though a percentage of the dogs that

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Speaker 14: do race point zero three six percent, so it's a

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Speaker 14: very low number. But I tried to find out then

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Speaker 14: the horse racing deaths, they would appear to me to

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Speaker 14: be much higher, although the percentages are not there. They

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Speaker 14: have cardiac arrest, they have a lot of broken limbs.

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Speaker 14: So anyway, Winston is an infinite wisdom has decided over

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Speaker 14: the next twenty months, though, debating a legislation in the

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Speaker 14: House today to say that greyhound owners aren't going to

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Speaker 14: be able to euthanize the greyhounds without reason. If they're

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Speaker 14: not sick, they'll be re homed. There's about two thy

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Speaker 14: nine hundred of them. I've got a friend, Old Ellen Bollard,

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Speaker 14: the former Government of the Reserve Bank. He's got a greyhound.

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Speaker 14: He parades it beautifully along Oriental Bay in Wellington with

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Speaker 14: a nice little dotted cover. I'm not raising it.

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Speaker 3: He will rehomed, yes, exactly. Oh that's lovely. Well, there'd

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Speaker 3: be twoenty nine hundred more where that came from.

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Speaker 14: Yes, there will be. So if you want one, right

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Speaker 14: there you go.

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Speaker 3: You can be honest with you. I don't think they're

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Speaker 3: particularly pretty beautiful.

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Speaker 4: We've got really high.

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Speaker 3: Archers, skinny and ugly. Barry Soper, thank you very much

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Speaker 3: for that, Senior political correspondent for News Talks, he'd b

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Speaker 3: it is eight away from five after five Winston Peters

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Speaker 3: on exactly this and after six reaction from the industry, putting.

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Speaker 2: The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic Hosking Breakfast,

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Speaker 2: it's a.

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Speaker 1: Tough old year for Air New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: The man in charge, Greg four in us with us

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Speaker 3: now listen.

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Speaker 1: The thing that is getting the goes of your customers.

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Speaker 18: It's the pricing obviously, but I reckon it might actually

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Speaker 18: be the on time performance.

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Speaker 19: Do you reckon you can fix that.

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Speaker 20: I can tell you we are doing everything we can,

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Speaker 20: and I'd go a step further and say to you, actually,

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Speaker 20: cancelations is a thing that gives me greatest concern at

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Speaker 20: the moment. A fair amount of it is just simply

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Speaker 20: getting the part. We often have to wait for an

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Speaker 20: aircraft to be what they call on ground before the

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Speaker 20: supply will release a part to us. Yes, now we're

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Speaker 20: working hard on those things. We've got to do better,

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Speaker 20: and I do apologize because it's not where we want

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Speaker 20: it to be either.

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Speaker 2: Duplessy on the mic Hosking Breakfast back tomorrow at six

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Speaker 2: am with the Jaguar f Pace on News Talks.

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Speaker 3: V great to have your company just gone four minutes

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Speaker 3: away from five o'clock now we're getting loads of feedback

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Speaker 3: on the gray hounds, the greyhound racing. These are the

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Speaker 3: numbers for euthanasia due to race injury or sudden death

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Speaker 3: after a race for the twenty three to twenty four

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Speaker 3: season thirteen greyhounds. The year before that, seven greyhounds. The

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Speaker 3: year before that seven greyhounds. Actually twenty twenty one it

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Speaker 3: was twenty seven greyhounds, so they have brought that number

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Speaker 3: down dramatically. Harness racing, this is horses fatalities twenty three,

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Speaker 3: twenty four to five, twenty two to twenty three two. Now,

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Speaker 3: obviously the important thing here is how much of what

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Speaker 3: proportion is that of overall racing that's going on, and

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Speaker 3: how does that compare between the different types of racing.

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Speaker 3: We'll look at this after five. Also, we'll ask Winston

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Speaker 3: Peters about it. These supermarkets also, we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: about this story after five because they're being taken to

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Speaker 3: court facing potentially facing criminal charges over their pricing. One

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Speaker 3: will they care? And two will it make a difference

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Speaker 3: to your life? We'll ask those questions ahead on Newstalks in.

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Speaker 1: Drama.

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Speaker 8: Drama.

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Speaker 2: Drama the only drive show you can trust to ask

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Speaker 2: the questions get the answers, find the facts and give

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Speaker 2: the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridgjohn here the Duplessy Allen Drive.

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Speaker 2: With one New Zealand let's get connected news talk as they'd.

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Speaker 3: Be good eating Nega seven after five and a huge

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Speaker 3: shop for the racing industry. The government has announced a

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Speaker 3: ban on greyhound racing this afternoon. The racing will be

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Speaker 3: phased out over the next twenty months. But they have

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Speaker 3: moved quickly from announcement to parliament and urgent laws are

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Speaker 3: being passed right now in our Parliament and Wellington to

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Speaker 3: prevent the unnecessary killing of racing dog dogs. Winston Peters

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Speaker 3: is the Racing Minister. Minister welcome to the program. The

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Speaker 3: industry says they've been basically blindsided by this.

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Speaker 21: Was that the intention, No, it wasn't the intention, and

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Speaker 21: they shouldn't have been blindsided given that there have been

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Speaker 21: three reviews two thousand and thirteen, two seventeen, twenty twenty

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Speaker 21: one which all pointed to the need to act in

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Speaker 21: the interests of the dogs.

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Speaker 3: How many of them are dying or being injured?

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Speaker 21: Well, the percentage is far too high. It's about sixteen

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Speaker 21: and a half percent higher than would be any acceptable rate,

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Speaker 21: and those are the most recent findings comparative over the

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Speaker 21: last few years, and as a consequence, we've how to

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Speaker 21: do the responsible and the right thing.

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Speaker 3: How does that compare to say, horse racing.

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Speaker 21: Well, they're totally different animals, that's the point, and you

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Speaker 21: know they're not the same. There are injuries always in

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Speaker 21: all sorts of racing, so to speak, as they will

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Speaker 21: be in any leisurely or recreational use of animals in

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Speaker 21: that context. But these levels of injury and things going wrong,

653
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Speaker 21: we're just too high, too unacceptable. And the hands in

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Speaker 21: report in particular is spelled out what had to be

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Speaker 21: done and that wasn't done.

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Speaker 3: So just to be clear that the death and injury

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Speaker 3: rates in greyhounds is higher, much higher than it is

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Speaker 3: for horse racing.

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Speaker 21: It is in this context, so they're definite animals entirely,

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Speaker 21: But we also had animals being unaccounted for paper. We're

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Speaker 21: not being done and we were alluded to that and

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Speaker 21: we asked that this will be fixed up. And there

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Speaker 21: were two too many things that weren't done properly.

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Speaker 3: Eight and a half percent of economic output for the

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Speaker 3: racing industry generally. Do you know what that is in

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Speaker 3: dollar terms? What it's going to cost, well, it's about.

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Speaker 21: One fifty million, but that'll be spread over the rest

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Speaker 21: of the industry over the next ten years, where we

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Speaker 21: hope to be bringing more than a billion dollar extra

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Speaker 21: into the racing industry. And I't forget, when we're talking

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Speaker 21: about dogs, we're talking about serious injuries here some days,

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Speaker 21: so that they've got to be put down, and that

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Speaker 21: sort of record was just too high.

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Speaker 3: When you talk about the money, what about the people,

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Speaker 3: the thousand people who are employed in this area.

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Speaker 21: Well, don't forget, that's about three per dog, so rather

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Speaker 21: one per three dogs. And as a consequence, many of

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Speaker 21: those are casuals. But we've given them twenty months to

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Speaker 21: reposition themselves. The rest of the season will continue. Then

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Speaker 21: one last season mid twenty five to twenty six to

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Speaker 21: the middle twenty six, and it'll be over and they'll

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Speaker 21: have time to relocate. Two new forms have been working,

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Speaker 21: including some of the existing industry and fracing that still survives.

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Speaker 3: You've announced this and your rushing legislation through the House

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Speaker 3: this afternoon very quickly. Why is that To.

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Speaker 21: Ensure that dogs are not euthanized by people at home,

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Speaker 21: they're going to be required to do that by bet

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Speaker 21: in the future all the safety messages, who the dog's

689
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Speaker 21: welfare has looked after? And we've got one hundred and

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Speaker 21: twenty two votes in Parliament cross pays bought for that

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Speaker 21: to happen.

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Speaker 3: Is your confidence in this industry so low that you

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Speaker 3: don't trust them even if you left it a week

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Speaker 3: that they wouldn't euthanize their own dogs at home?

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Speaker 21: There are, of course people you can trust, and then

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Speaker 21: there are some people that don't war on trust. That's

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Speaker 21: the record, and our job is to ensure that the

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Speaker 21: over or welfare of their industry is treated as a

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Speaker 21: collective not just individual cases.

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Speaker 3: Minister, thank you very much, you try and really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: That's Winston Peters. The Racing Minister will look at the

702
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Speaker 3: proportion of deaths in dog racing, particularly greyhound racing versus

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Speaker 3: horse racing and just staff to twenty past five this evening,

704
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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge, the Commerce Commission is going to file criminal

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Speaker 3: charges against Woolworst New Zealand and two individual Pack and

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Speaker 3: Save supermarkets. The ComCom has accused the supermarkets of having

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Speaker 3: inaccurate pricing and misleading specials. John Duffy is the CEO

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Speaker 3: of Consumer and z John, Welcome to the show. Do

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Speaker 3: we know exactly what the supermarkets are alleged to have

710
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Speaker 3: done here?

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Speaker 22: The commers quission's media release is a little bit they

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Speaker 22: but based on the complaint that Consumer n Z put

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Speaker 22: in that kicked this whole thing off, it looks like

714
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Speaker 22: there's a range of conduct involved.

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Speaker 13: So it could be.

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Speaker 22: From something as simple as the shelf an item on

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Speaker 22: the shelf at the supermarket, the shelf price not matching

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Speaker 22: what you're charged at the till, through to sight more

719
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Speaker 22: complicated potential offending around misleading promotions. So examples where the

720
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Speaker 22: on special price is actually more expensive than it was

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Speaker 22: the item was originally, or where you know two for

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Speaker 22: one deals, when you buy the twin pack, it's actually

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Speaker 22: more expensive than buying each item individually.

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Speaker 3: Is it fair to say this is minor stuff in

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Speaker 3: terms of a shopper's bill.

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Speaker 22: Well, for each individual shopper who turns up and I

727
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Speaker 22: know it's charged fifty cents extra for their tin of

728
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Speaker 22: baked beans, it might appear minor in isolation. But if

729
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Speaker 22: you expand that out across all shoppers nationwide every day,

730
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Speaker 22: if every shoppers you know, going to one of the

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Speaker 22: other supermarkets has been charged fifty cents extra that they

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Speaker 22: shouldn't have been charged for their baked beans. Actually that

733
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Speaker 22: really adds up, and there's potentially millions of dollars.

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Speaker 13: But over the course of a year.

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Speaker 3: Except that these charges and Will put Will Worse to

736
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Speaker 3: assigned for a second, but Pack and say it is

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Speaker 3: named specific stores because you know, obviously they are franchises.

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Speaker 3: So you've got Silverdale and you've got one in Hamilton.

739
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Speaker 3: So that's only two stores that they've managed to come

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Speaker 3: up with from that entire business.

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Speaker 22: Well, the Commission's media release also notes that there's more

742
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Speaker 22: to come, so that they're saying their investigations are ongoing.

743
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Speaker 22: So based on what we've seen, we would expect more

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Speaker 22: food stuffs, brands, supermarkets.

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Speaker 13: So that's Pack and.

746
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Speaker 22: Save for Square and a New World to be involved

747
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Speaker 22: in this enforcement action.

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Speaker 13: Enough have to wait and see.

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Speaker 3: It's will Worse because Will Worst has come out and said, look,

750
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Speaker 3: obviously we will cooperate. We don't know what's happening yet.

751
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Speaker 3: We're waiting to find out ourselves. But sometimes errors happen.

752
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Speaker 3: We're updating our technology, we have a refund policy. We're

753
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Speaker 3: a big business. We make mistakes.

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Speaker 22: What are you saying, well, to be frank, the supermarkets

755
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Speaker 22: have been running that line for years, but nothing has improved,

756
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Speaker 22: so you know, this isn't new news. People have been

757
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Speaker 22: being overpared to the supermarkets for years and rather than

758
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Speaker 22: investing in technology that could improve this. I mean, it's

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Speaker 22: twenty twenty four. Getting the price on the shelf the

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Speaker 22: same as the price in your database. It's not rocket science.

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Speaker 22: It's it's actually one of the fundamentals have been a grosser.

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Speaker 1: Is there enough getting this wrong?

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Speaker 3: I guess for people who are listening to this, it's

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Speaker 3: not going to make a huge I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: going to be in the district court. Cases like this

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Speaker 3: are usually settled. It might be a million bucks for them,

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Speaker 3: you know, whack on the back of the hand with

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Speaker 3: a wet bus ticket. But for most consumers it's annoying

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Speaker 3: when they do it. But it's not going to save

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Speaker 3: the bank, is it?

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Speaker 13: At an individual level?

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Speaker 22: You're right, although actually, you know, thirty percent of consumers

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Speaker 22: we've surveyed tell us that they notice pricing discrepancies, but

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Speaker 22: they move on. That means, you know, seventy percent of

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Speaker 22: consumers are not noticing these discrepancies, So we don't actually

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Speaker 22: know what the cost of the economy, or cost to

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Speaker 22: New Zealand consumers of overcharging is when you extrapolate that

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Speaker 22: out across everybody who's shopping every day. Anything that we

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Speaker 22: can do that actually reduces the amount, the excessive amounts

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Speaker 22: that the supermarkets are profiting and actually leaves money and

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Speaker 22: consumers back pockets is a good thing. Ultimately, we shouldn't

782
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Speaker 22: be sitting aside and letting major businesses consistently mislead consumers

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Speaker 22: about the price of their goods.

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Speaker 3: John, thank you very much for joining me. John Duffy,

785
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Speaker 3: the CEO of Consumer in ZET if you're just joining us.

786
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Speaker 3: The Commerce Commission is going to file criminal charges against

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Speaker 3: Woolworst New Zealand and two Pack and Safe supermarkets over

788
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Speaker 3: their pricing. We don't exactly know what they have done

789
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Speaker 3: wrong at this point, but we will find out in

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Speaker 3: due course. Coming up next, if you have kids going

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Speaker 3: to a summer music festival and you're worried about them

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Speaker 3: taking drugs, or perhaps you yourself are going to a

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Speaker 3: sum music festival, stay tuned. When we come back. We're

794
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Speaker 3: Rewards and Airpoints Bryan Bridge drug testing at summer festivals

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Speaker 3: has had a bit of a snag. The testing agency

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Speaker 3: Know your Stuff says it doesn't have enough equipment to

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Speaker 3: provide a number of New Year's festivals with drug checks.

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Speaker 3: One of them is Rhythm and ELTs. The general manager

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Speaker 3: there is Harry Gorrin. She's with me this evening, Harry,

817
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Speaker 3: good evening, Harry. Have I got you there?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? You do?

819
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Speaker 23: Tell me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got you. Tell me. Why haven't you got

821
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Speaker 3: the testing kits?

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Speaker 23: It's not so much a kit as it is quite

823
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Speaker 23: an expensive piece of equipment called a spectrometer. We don't

824
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Speaker 23: have one, or we're not allowed the use of one

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Speaker 23: because there are not enough left in this area of

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Speaker 23: the country during the New Year's area New Year's time periods.

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Speaker 3: Basically, there's too much demand. And know your stuff's a charity,

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Speaker 3: they've only got so much resource, right. I think there's

829
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Speaker 3: one in Nelson that's going to get it over New Years.

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Speaker 3: How many people do you have coming to your festival.

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Speaker 23: Ten thousand to day?

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Speaker 3: Do you have a health and safety requirement? What if

833
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Speaker 3: somebody overdosed on your watch?

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Speaker 23: A health and safety requirement doesn't stretch as far as

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Speaker 23: as drug testing per se. Our drug management plan is

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Speaker 23: very detailed, and I think if you wanted to use

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Speaker 23: an analogy it might be that you're adding sort of layers.

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Speaker 15: Of protection.

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Speaker 23: For our patrons and those are present with a sort

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Speaker 23: of communication strategy as well as Saint John being on

841
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Speaker 23: site and our Angels tent as well as a detox tent.

842
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Speaker 3: So we do keep a.

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Speaker 23: Very good eye on our customers, but another layer of

844
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Speaker 23: protection and a safe place for people to check drugs

845
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Speaker 23: would go a long way for sure.

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Speaker 3: Is there anywhere to check drugs around where the festival

847
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Speaker 3: is being held over that period?

848
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Speaker 23: Yes, certainly we've got testing stations courtesy of all your

849
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Speaker 23: stuff on the twenty eighth and twenty ninth of Deceit

850
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Speaker 23: in one Acare and in Queenstown.

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Speaker 3: So somebody was to know in God forbid this whatever happen.

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Speaker 3: But if something was bad was to happen involving drugs

853
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Speaker 3: in one of your festival goers, would you know, have

854
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Speaker 3: you had legal advice? What is the potential repercussions for you?

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Speaker 23: Look, we do everything we can to eliminate drugs from

856
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Speaker 23: entering our festival site. Obviously, is that there is a

857
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Speaker 23: limit to resources and how much we can sort of

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Speaker 23: prevent from entering. And it as a music festival, we

859
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Speaker 23: know it happens we have medical staff, security staff, police

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Speaker 23: on site to sort of maintain and watch the intox

861
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Speaker 23: level of patients of patrons. We're keeping a very close

862
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Speaker 23: eye on everyone at all times, and we like to

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Speaker 23: stop things from becoming problems before their problems. So it's

864
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Speaker 23: not so much it's a treatment, not so much treatment,

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Speaker 23: it's prevention.

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Speaker 3: How much does a spectrometer cost? Do you know?

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Speaker 24: Ah?

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Speaker 23: Look, by no means an authority on science equipment. On

869
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Speaker 23: a music promoter, I've been told brand new that they're

870
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Speaker 23: about quarter of a million dollars.

871
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, so there's a not cheap at piece

872
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Speaker 3: is a kit? Harry good, Harry good to know. Thank

873
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Speaker 3: you very much and good luck with your festival this summer,

874
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: by pleasure, thank you so much. Harry gorrins with us.

875
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: Who's the general manager at Rhythman else in the South Island.

876
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: Ten thousand young people Redlers will head there for their

877
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: New Year's celebrations this year. Twenty two minutes after five

878
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: news Talks, he'd be.

879
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Speaker 2: The day's newsmakers talk to Ryan First, Ryan Bridge, John

880
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: Heather Duper c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand let's

881
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: get connected at news talk, as they'd be.

882
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: Today is a perfect example at twenty five after five way.

883
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: Winston Peters is just a great politician because you never

884
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: really can predict what he will do, and you don't

885
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: expect the Minister of Racing, and he's been the Minister

886
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: of Racing in various capacities since two thousand and five,

887
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: on and off. You never really expect someone like that

888
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: who champions the industry, to come out and shut down

889
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: a one hundred and fifty million dollar tap of cash overnight.

890
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: They are passing the legislation in parliament. They're having their

891
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: first reading in parliament today. It's going to be phased

892
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: in over twenty months. But it's bye bye to greyhound

893
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: racing in New Zealand. And that begs the question, doesn't it.

894
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: How does greyhound racing compare because this is about safety,

895
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: this is about animal welfare, it's about deaths and it's

896
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: about injuries. How do they compare to other parts of

897
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: the racing industry, thoroughbred racing, harness racing, you know, dogs

898
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Speaker 3: versus horses. We have some numbers for you. This is

899
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: the from the greyhound racing industry. So euthanasia due to

900
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Speaker 3: race injury or sudden death after a race in the

901
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: last financial year thirteen greyhounds thoroughbred racing. This is according

902
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 3: to the Coalition Against Horse Racing. Thoroughbred racing for the

903
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: last financial year twenty one deaths. Harness racing five deaths

904
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Speaker 3: for the same period. So and obviously we're not talking

905
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: portions there of overall numbers. But if your concern is

906
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: animal welfare, do you not have to be concerned about

907
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: all animals equally. The minister who was on the show

908
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: after five said, actually no, they are different animals and

909
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: you have to treat them as separate cases. Do you

910
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: agree with that? You know, how serious are we about

911
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: animal welfare? Are dogs lives worth more to humans than horses?

912
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: I guess it depends on whether you're a harsey person

913
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: or whether you're a dog person perhaps, but you know,

914
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: should we be making a distinction? Nine ninety two is

915
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Speaker 3: the numbered textill we're going to have the reaction from

916
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Speaker 3: industry after six on news Talk set b Ray and Bridge.

917
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: Lots of your feedback coming in on that. Also lots

918
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 3: coming in on supermarkets and I love the examples people

919
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Speaker 3: are sending them through.

920
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Speaker 9: Run.

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Speaker 3: I shop at Pack and Save most days. I always

922
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Speaker 3: check the prices my mom does that too. Often the

923
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Speaker 3: mistake is in the favor of the shopper. For example,

924
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: today the special price for Ingham's Butterfly chicken was nine

925
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: dollars ninety five. The price at the checkout seven ninety five.

926
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Speaker 3: We are always ready to cry cheat. Often it's just

927
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Speaker 3: human error. Interesting that is thank you for that text.

928
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Speaker 3: That is exactly what Wilwas has said. It's often just

929
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Speaker 3: human era and we're a big business and we can't

930
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Speaker 3: control everything. Ninety is the number of text coming up.

931
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Speaker 3: After six. We've got the Reserve Bank on. Apparently we're

932
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Speaker 3: very worried about keeping cash in circulation and our privacy

933
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Speaker 3: the big concern. I'll tell you why.

934
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Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

935
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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge on, Heather Dupers Ellen Dry with one New

936
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: Zealand let's get connected and news talk as that'd be.

937
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: Getting twenty four away from six. After six, we're going

938
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Speaker 3: to talk to the Reserve Bank about cash and why

939
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: we should keep it. Many of you think we should.

940
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 3: You know that it is physical cash in our wallets.

941
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Speaker 3: If you're still one of those people over in the

942
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Speaker 3: United States, this is the planned attack on the healthcare

943
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: boss over in Manhattan. The guy who was killed murdered,

944
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Speaker 3: gunned down just before seven in the morning by the

945
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Speaker 3: Hilton Hotel in New York City. I know it's a

946
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: wild story. And now we know more about Luigi Mangioni.

947
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: He's the guy who has been arrested and charged with

948
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Speaker 3: murdering the Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. So his former flatmate's

949
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: been talking to CNN. He said that the alleged murderer

950
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Speaker 3: had chronic back pain.

951
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 24: I was interviewed him before he moved in. I remember

952
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 24: he said he had a back issue and he was

953
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Speaker 24: hoping to get stronger in Hawaii.

954
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Speaker 3: So he's always Yeah, so he lived in Hawaii.

955
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Speaker 24: When he first came, he went on a surf lesson

956
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 24: with other members and unfortunately just a basic surf lesson.

957
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 24: He was in bed for about a week.

958
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Speaker 1: We had to get a different.

959
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 24: Bed for him that was more firm, and I know

960
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 24: it was really traumatic and difficult.

961
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he lived in Hawaii for a little while, and

962
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: some interesting stuff about him. You know, you ask why.

963
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: Apparently they found on him a manifesto, according to CNN,

964
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: including words like these parasites had it coming. I do

965
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: apologize for the strife and trauma, but it had to

966
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: be done. He had a problem with corporate America. But

967
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Speaker 3: then he was rich. According to the CNN reports, he

968
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Speaker 3: went to an Ivy League school, he got a master's degree.

969
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: He lived in multiple different states. His dad was a

970
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Speaker 3: property developer. His mum was a philanthropist. She died last year.

971
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: And also the how is interesting? A ghost gun? Have

972
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 3: you heard of one of these? A ghost gun? He

973
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 3: was found with one apparently that's what was used in

974
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: the shooting as well. A largely untraceable firearm that can

975
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Speaker 3: be assembled at home using kits, largely manufactured on a

976
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 3: three D printer. And in America, because they're so good

977
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Speaker 3: with guns and regulations in America, anyone, it's called a

978
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Speaker 3: privately made firearm. Anyone can get a ghost gun. Two

979
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: to six. Back here in New Zealand, the Education Minister

980
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: has announced a refresh of the sex ed curriculum in school.

981
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Speaker 3: The existing curriculum was designed in two thousand and seven

982
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Speaker 3: and a recent era report found that there are lots

983
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Speaker 3: of problems with the way it's implemented. A draft of

984
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: the new topic areas will be available to be taught

985
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Speaker 3: in Term one next year. Debbie Tohill is from the

986
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Speaker 3: Rape Prevention Education and she joins me, Now, Debbie, good evening. Sure,

987
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 3: thank you for being with me. What needs I were surprised,

988
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 3: as I think the minister was, to hear that consent

989
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: wasn't in the curriculum. It's not compulsory to be taught

990
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: in all schools to all students. Were you surprised to

991
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: hear that?

992
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 5: No?

993
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 18: I wasn't surprised. It's an area that we work in.

994
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 18: We educate a lot of schools in the Auckland area.

995
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: And what do you think needs to be in this curriculum?

996
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 18: Absolutely, we need to ensure, particularly the work that I do,

997
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 18: as in high schools, we need to make sure that

998
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 18: young people have really got understanding of what a healthy

999
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 18: relationship looks like and have already got understanding of what

1000
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Speaker 18: consent mean.

1001
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: What age should we be teaching kids about this stuff?

1002
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 3: Do you do you think, oh.

1003
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Speaker 18: Look, we can't begin early enough. I don't think to

1004
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 18: be talking to our children about consent. But as I say,

1005
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 18: we work particularly with high school students in years nineteen

1006
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 18: and thirteen.

1007
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: Right because some parents I imagine and I don't know.

1008
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: I'm not a parent myself, so I don't know, but

1009
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: I imagine some parents would have would be uncomfortable with

1010
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: talking with their kids that young talking about sexual stuff.

1011
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 18: That may be true, but the reality is that all

1012
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 18: of our almost of our young people are going to

1013
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 18: become sexually active at some stage, and probably in their teens.

1014
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 18: So it's really good that they have the knowledge and

1015
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 18: skills and know what it is that they're getting themselves into. Basically,

1016
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 18: I think it's really important to have those conversations.

1017
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Speaker 3: And if you don't want your kid to have them,

1018
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 3: then you basically have to take your kid out of school.

1019
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 18: You can have them removed from that class if that's

1020
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Speaker 18: what you choose.

1021
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 3: Should we be including things like sexuality and gender identity

1022
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: in this.

1023
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 18: Oh yes, absolutely, yeah. I think you know, young people

1024
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 18: at that age are exploring what the thoughts and feelings

1025
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 18: are around gender and sexuality. It's something that they see

1026
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 18: more and more on social media, and the better inform

1027
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Speaker 18: they are, the better decisions they're going to be able

1028
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 18: to make.

1029
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Speaker 3: Debbi, thank you very much for your time. Appreciate it.

1030
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Speaker 3: Debbie Toehill is from Rape Prevention Education and it is

1031
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: nineteen away from six.

1032
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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, local and

1033
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: global exposure like no other.

1034
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: Joining the Huddle tonight David Farah, the Kiwi Blog and

1035
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Speaker 3: Curry Opolster. David, good evening to you. Great to have

1036
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: you on the show, and Allie Jones read pr IS

1037
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Speaker 3: with us too. Hey, Allie, Hi Ryan, Great to have

1038
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: you here. So David will start with you. You've been

1039
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 3: doing polling for Hobson's Pledge, looking into support fore and

1040
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 3: against the Treaty principles builders is David's Animals Bill. Are

1041
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: you surprised by what you found?

1042
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Speaker 13: Not entirely.

1043
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 19: It wasn't so much on the bill itself, but what

1044
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 19: we asked was, if there's a disagreement between bodies about

1045
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 19: what the principles of the treaty are, who should have

1046
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 19: the final say? Should it be Parliament, a referendum, the

1047
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 19: judiciary or the Waitingi Tribunal. And a clear majority said

1048
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 19: it should be the people, either Parliament or a referendum.

1049
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 19: So it wasn't about the detail of the bill, but

1050
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 19: very clearly people were saying it is appropriate for Parliament

1051
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 19: to have a role here. It's not just something ly.

1052
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 19: The other thing that was very interesting was we asked

1053
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 19: the question and ask people to agree. You want to

1054
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 19: honor the treaty, but only if you can do it

1055
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 19: so it doesn't breach fundamental human rights like quality of suffrage.

1056
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 19: And that's actually the issue that's getting under all this.

1057
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Speaker 19: In the last three years before the change of government,

1058
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Speaker 19: a lot of stuff happened under the name of the treaty.

1059
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 19: You had the co governance of water.

1060
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Speaker 20: You head.

1061
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 19: Wrotea a district council there we're going to have like

1062
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 19: a voter on the general role with thy nine percent

1063
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 19: of the vota Marol, and people didn't like that. So

1064
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 19: what you've now got is people saying, well, you know,

1065
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 19: we want to honor the treaty, but we want to

1066
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 19: find out what the limits are. Is the treaty supreme

1067
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 19: law or are there other things more important?

1068
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: Do you think Ellie that particularly the taxpayers in your

1069
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Speaker 3: curer pole that came out yesterday that had Seymour taking

1070
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: four and a half points off the National Party. Is

1071
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 3: this proof that Seymour's strategy is working, I mean, not

1072
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: just in terms of having the debate but actually getting

1073
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: support for his party in the process.

1074
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Speaker 21: No, not at all.

1075
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Speaker 25: I think what's really important actually is what David didn't say,

1076
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Speaker 25: and I think you know, when you talked about the

1077
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Speaker 25: question around what bodies should determine the principles of the treaty.

1078
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Speaker 25: I'm not great with maths, but when I looked at

1079
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Speaker 25: the figures there, David, of the people who responded, there

1080
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Speaker 25: appears to be around sixty nine percent missing. So you've

1081
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Speaker 25: got twenty five percent to agreed that there should be

1082
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Speaker 25: a referendum, twenty one percent that said it should be parliament,

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Speaker 25: sixteen percent, why tonguey tribunal?

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Speaker 15: You did?

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Speaker 25: Judiciary seven percent? Where's the other sixty nine percent?

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Speaker 19: Well, not sixty nine, I'm sorry, it's thirty one.

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Speaker 25: It's thirty one. That's sixty nine percent there, So there's

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Speaker 25: thirty one percent missing?

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Speaker 14: Where are they?

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Speaker 13: They're called undecides.

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Speaker 19: They're probably the ones who just don't really understand the soul.

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Speaker 19: I understand there's a treaty, but they're not actually in

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Speaker 19: the day today just they probably don't even understand what

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Speaker 19: just talk about the prince.

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Speaker 25: So so that's the key. And I think that you're

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Speaker 25: really simplifying this and that that thirty one percent of

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Speaker 25: undecided is actually the story, and that's what's important. And

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Speaker 25: I also think when you talk about upholding fundamental human rights.

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Speaker 25: You know, sixty two percent you said support honoring the

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Speaker 25: Treaty of White Tongy provided it upholds fundamental human rights,

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Speaker 25: with only two twelve percent disagreeing. What do people think

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Speaker 25: fundament intil human rights are? Is it an example of freedom, expression, liberty,

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Speaker 25: conscious religion? I mean, I think the problem here, David

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Speaker 25: is with respect. I think you're cherry picking. And when

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Speaker 25: you do surveys like this, you are wanting a certain outcome.

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Speaker 25: And when you've got a really large percentage, like you know,

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Speaker 25: thirty one percent of undecideds, that's really bloody important. I

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Speaker 25: think you have to explore that.

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Speaker 19: Under mental human rights. That example was given the quality

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Speaker 19: of suffrage.

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Speaker 1: It's the idea.

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Speaker 19: Katherine Mansfield didn't campaign for a woman's vote to be

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Speaker 19: half a man's vote. She campaigned for votes to be equal,

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Speaker 19: and that is a fundamental human rights and international treaties

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Speaker 19: re signed up to. It's in the Build Rights Act.

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Speaker 19: But you've got people saying the treaty means that New

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Speaker 19: Zealand should be govern fifty percent by MARI, fifty percent

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Speaker 19: by non MARI, which means sixteen percent of the population

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00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 19: has fifty percent of the voting power. Now you can

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Speaker 19: believe that, but also means that you be breaching international

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Speaker 19: human rights treat and that's what's actually the debate ultimately

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Speaker 19: is about.

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Speaker 25: And where does that come under the fundamental human rights

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Speaker 25: part of the survey that you asked though, I mean,

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Speaker 25: what do people understand what they were actually voting?

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Speaker 3: That man just one man, one voteesn't I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think that's what you're getting at. But have an example?

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Speaker 3: Do you have an example for us, David of you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned co governance, but actually where there

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Speaker 3: would be a fifty to fifty you would elect and

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Speaker 3: they would fifty to fifty be able to vote on

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Speaker 3: something that would you know, have an actual effect on

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Speaker 3: an individual.

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Speaker 19: The last Labor government's review of local government recommended that

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Speaker 19: all local government go to fifty to fifty co governments.

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Speaker 13: You had a build.

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Speaker 3: But that it wasn't happening, was it. I mean it.

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Speaker 19: Was but the fact that, yeah, this was recommended by

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Speaker 19: a body set up by the other They introduced a

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Speaker 19: billn to Parliament to bring that in for Rocha Rua.

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Speaker 3: They backed down because there.

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Speaker 1: Was enough noise.

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Speaker 19: But I meant, there's NPC you who who don't believe

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Speaker 19: in the collige of So all right, we have.

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Speaker 3: To go to a break. I'm about to be in

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01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: big trouble apparently, so I'll quickly go to a break

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Speaker 3: and we'll come back with David Farah and Ellie Jones.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate the

1149
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: marketing of your home.

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01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: It is eleven away from six News Talks. He'd be

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Speaker 3: David Farah, Kiemi Blogg and carry Upholster with me on

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Speaker 3: the show, and Ellie Jones read pr welcome back to

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01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: both of you. Let's move to greyhound racing. Look, I'm surprised,

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 3: to be honest, to see Winston Peters the Racing Minutes

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01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: to stand up and say I am canceling an industry

1156
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Speaker 3: with one hundred and fifty million dollars greyhound racing. It's

1157
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: going to be phased in over twenty months. What did

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01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 3: you make of that, David.

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Speaker 19: I'm amazingly good and very surprising because Winston has been

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01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 19: seeing very much as yo, this is what we want

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01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 19: how high? He is clearly the most pro racing MP

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Speaker 19: in Parliament. He always asks me racing minute, we might.

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Speaker 3: Have dropped to David off there, Ellie, are you there

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Speaker 3: with them?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 3: And there we go? Do you agree with David because

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Speaker 3: I mean you see him as the czar of racing, really,

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: don't you? And here he is, yes, taking the boot

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Speaker 3: to part of his of the own industry.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 25: To be honest, I'm a huge greyhound fan and so

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Speaker 25: I don't care whether this is surprising or something that

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Speaker 25: people weren't expecting from Winston and I heard were your

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01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 25: comments earlier? Ryan, I think you are barking up the

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01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 25: wrong tree. You see what I did there. I don't

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Speaker 25: think this is about what happens on the track, both

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Speaker 25: with the greyhounds and the horses. I've heard your comparisons.

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Speaker 25: I think there, it's what happens off the track. You know,

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01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 25: there are dogs that are disappearing. You can't make fifty

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Speaker 25: horses disappear. There are some owners that have got hundreds

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 25: and hundreds of dogs and if they don't run, then

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Speaker 25: they cull them. So I think I did hear Peters

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Speaker 25: refer to that. I think that's the difference here between

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01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 25: greyhound racing and horse racing.

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Speaker 3: Did you say you're into greyhound racing?

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Speaker 21: Oh?

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 25: No, into greyhounds. Oh you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we've

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Speaker 25: had I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not this is a one eighty. This is not what

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Speaker 3: I expected from you, Ellie.

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Speaker 25: No, no, we adopt them. So our last one, Billy,

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Speaker 25: died in February at the age of ten.

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Speaker 3: No, it was really really Ellie. Honestly, I had you

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Speaker 3: down at the tab, I had the track racing on.

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Speaker 25: I don't even go to cap Dave Ryan, No, it's

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Speaker 25: not it's not me.

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Speaker 3: Hey, just before we go cash, I think we've got

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Speaker 3: David fairback with us. David the cash thing. So the

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Speaker 3: Reserve banksy is they're going to bring in and they

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Speaker 3: the most feedback the Reserve Bank has ever had on

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01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: anything they've taken to the public. Eighty four percent of

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01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: us want to keep physical cash because safety a security

1203
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 3: rather privacy. We don't want people knowing what we're spending

1204
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Speaker 3: our money on. Isn't that interesting?

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01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 19: Yeah, as a security blanket, I think most people will

1206
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 19: be like me. I pay cash once or twice a

1207
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 19: year only if I have to. But people like the

1208
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 19: idea that if there's a problem they can pull the

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01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 19: cash out of a bank, they can stick it under

1210
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Speaker 19: their bed etce the thought of like all your wealth

1211
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 19: is tied up a digital currency which might be could

1212
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Speaker 19: be hacked, etc. I think is definitely a factor.

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Speaker 3: Ellie, what about you, I suppose you need your cash

1214
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Speaker 3: for your tab bets?

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Speaker 25: No, No, it's all done online, right, and all done online.

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Speaker 25: I do actually carry cash around with me, and the

1217
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 25: reason I do, and I use it maybe two to

1218
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 25: three times a week, is that I will not I

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01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 25: refuse to pay the surcharge on payWave cards to access

1220
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Speaker 25: my own money. So you know, when I got to

1221
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 25: pay for something and they say that's an extra dollar fifty, gosh,

1222
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 25: that makes me sound really petty, But I refuse to

1223
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Speaker 25: hand more money to the banks who are already making

1224
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Speaker 25: huge profits from us. So I will use my cash

1225
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 25: if there's a surcharge on something for my card. So

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01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 25: that's the reason I do it. Do people really still

1227
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 25: stick money under their mattresses datement? Do you think that's

1228
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 25: a thing?

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Speaker 19: I not that mean, but there are definitely still people

1230
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 19: who don't trust the banks.

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Speaker 1: Ye know and day but with them.

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Speaker 3: Oh totally. And if eighty four percent of the people

1233
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Speaker 3: who submitted on this set actually privacy knowing no one

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01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: else knowing what I'm doing with my money, is the

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01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: most important factor. Guys thinking what are they spending it on?

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Speaker 2: There?

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Speaker 25: That makes me really curious?

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Speaker 3: Terrorism, you know, prostitute and drugs. I don't know. Ellie,

1239
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Speaker 3: thank you for their Ellie Jones, red PR, David farrykiv

1240
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 3: blog and carry Opolster. It is seven away from six.

1241
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: The Reserve Bank talks to us after six about exactly

1242
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: this about cash and what are we spending our money on?

1243
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: And if we go to a digital currency, will the

1244
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank be able to see what you're spending? We

1245
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: asked that question after six.

1246
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: Red or Blue, Trump or Harris? Who will win the

1247
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,479
Speaker 2: battleground states? The latest on the US election, It's Heather

1248
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Speaker 2: Duplicy Alan Drive with one.

1249
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Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected. These talk'd be.

1250
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Speaker 3: After six on news Talk ZIB. Paul Bloxham out of Australia.

1251
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: The Reserve Bank holding their ocr steady at four point

1252
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: three five percent this afternoon, just gone four away from six.

1253
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,479
Speaker 3: In Syria, the United States is bombing ISIS targets right now.

1254
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: And the reason they're doing that is because you have ISIS.

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, everyone at least I thought everybody

1256
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 3: was under the impression that ISIS was wiped off the

1257
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: face of the map. Apparently there's ten thousand fighters still

1258
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 3: in Syria. Those are numbers from May this year. The

1259
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 3: big worry is not just the fact that ISIS is there,

1260
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: but that there might be hidden stockpiles of chemical weapons,

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01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: because Assad was a lovely man who used those on

1262
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Speaker 3: his people. So you've got stockpiles of chemical weapons plus

1263
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: ISIS fighters equals bad. Hence, you have America in there

1264
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: right now bombing the hell out of these ISIS training

1265
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: camps that they have the coordinates for. You also have

1266
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Speaker 3: Israel involved in bombing as far in as Damascus at

1267
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Speaker 3: the moment. Obviously they've gotter in the goal and height.

1268
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: Everybody seems to have an interest in Syria, don't they,

1269
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Speaker 3: And that is on display for the world to see

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Speaker 3: right now. Three away from six when we come back

1271
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Speaker 3: after the news, we're talking to the boss of the industry.

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Speaker 3: That's just being wiped off the face of New Zealand

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 3: and that's Greyhound racing.

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Speaker 1: Up. What's down? What were the major calls and how

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: will it affect the economy of big business?

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01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Questions on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and my

1277
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: Ator on News Talks at.

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Speaker 3: B seven after six welcome to the show. Great to

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Speaker 3: have your company this evening, and boy is this a

1280
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 3: big story in business, but also for the people who

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 3: are involved. Greyhound racing will be phased out over the

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Speaker 3: next twenty months. It's an industry worth one hundred and

1283
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars a year. The racing minister Winston Peters

1284
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: was on the show earlier. He told me this shouldn't

1285
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Speaker 3: come as a surprise to the industry.

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Speaker 21: They shouldn't have been blindsided, given that there have been

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Speaker 21: three reviews two and thirteen twenty one which all pointed

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Speaker 21: to the need to act in the interest of the dogs.

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Speaker 21: And I forget when we're talking about dogs, we're talking

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Speaker 21: about serious injuries here. Some need so that they've got

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Speaker 21: to be put down and that sort of record was

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Speaker 21: just too high.

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Speaker 3: Edward Reynolds, the CEO of greyhound Racing in z he's

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Speaker 3: with me this evening. Edward. Good evening to you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, good evening, Ryan, good evening, listeners.

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Speaker 3: You sound a bit upset.

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Speaker 6: Oh, look, we're clearly we'd never stayed and very disappointed

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Speaker 6: with the decision, but you know it has come as

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Speaker 6: a surprise to us. But we're just looking to process.

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Speaker 6: But clearly, our concerns are with putting the right support

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Speaker 6: programs around the twenty fifty four people that derive their

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Speaker 6: income and loverhood from the industry say yeah, that that's

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Speaker 6: our immediate concern is for people.

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Speaker 3: You say you didn't see it coming. But there have

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Speaker 3: been three reviews over ten years and they've all been

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Speaker 3: highly critical. They've made significant recommendations and the Minister says

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Speaker 3: you haven't followed through.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not right. So there have been three reviews,

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Speaker 6: they have identified areas of concern and if we look

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Speaker 6: at the progress over the last three years, it's been significant.

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Speaker 6: The last significant review on twenty twenty Robertson reviewed raised

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Speaker 6: concerns around the youth in Asia of dogs after their

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Speaker 6: careers were finished. Also raised concern around the traceability of

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Speaker 6: dogs after their careers, the rehoming and the level of

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Speaker 6: race day ethan Asians. So in the last two years

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Speaker 6: significant steps have been taken. And if we look at

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Speaker 6: the last independent report on from the Racy Integrity Board,

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Speaker 6: who have been appointed by the government to independently monitor

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Speaker 6: our performance, the last report that went in noted that

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Speaker 6: the progress was very good.

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Speaker 3: The twenty seventeen report by the High Court judge that

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Speaker 3: found there were high numbers of unaccounted for dogs. Where

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Speaker 3: were these dogs going?

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Speaker 6: Well, this was at that time, you know that there

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Speaker 6: was probably dogs when their careers were finished that the

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Speaker 6: people a number of dogs we're being.

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Speaker 3: Euthanized at that point, hundreds of dogs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so we now had a hundreds of dogs.

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Speaker 3: Were being euthanized because they just weren't good at racing

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Speaker 3: anymore of that child.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So we now have a euthan age policy rhyme

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Speaker 6: where a dog cannot be euthanized for any other reason

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Speaker 6: apart from welfare.

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Speaker 3: Do you see how that's a bit of a problem?

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Speaker 6: Home six hundred last year we rehumed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that in the last year or two

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Speaker 3: you've done something to turn it around. But prior to that,

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Speaker 3: and it's not that long ago, is that? Do you

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Speaker 3: think you've dug your own grave?

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Speaker 9: Here?

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Speaker 6: Look, hindsight's great and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: we can only you know, we've got to live in

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Speaker 6: the present and I can look him in the iron

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Speaker 6: So that we now in many areas, lead the racing

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Speaker 6: industry of New Zealand in terms of animal welfare. We're

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Speaker 6: the only racing code where the animal has a committed

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Speaker 6: commitment that has a life once it's racing career is finished.

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Speaker 6: So every dog that's raced goes into where rehoming program

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Speaker 6: and is rehomed. And say, last year we re home

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Speaker 6: six hundred and seventy three dogs and we brewd it

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Speaker 6: just over five hundred. So you know, it was a

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Speaker 6: significant achievement and it highlights our commitment too welfare in

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Speaker 6: the interest of the dogs.

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Speaker 3: And now you've got twenty months to re home twenty

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Speaker 3: nine hundred do you think that's possible?

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Speaker 6: And twenty months?

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Speaker 20: Now how long?

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Speaker 3: How long would it take?

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Speaker 6: Issue? That's the issues that need to be where throughs.

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Speaker 6: So this decisions has been announced today. We just have

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Speaker 6: to process that and consider the implications. But from our perspective,

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Speaker 6: this will where are change to the racing industry at

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Speaker 6: so we clearly will be looking to outline through the

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Speaker 6: slect committey process what we believe is that there is

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Speaker 6: a future for grayhound racing that we have taken.

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Speaker 3: You are you going to lawyer up?

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Speaker 6: I think we will certainly go through a sleek committee

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Speaker 6: process and outline and why we believe there is a

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Speaker 6: place for grayhand racing and why we believe it should

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Speaker 6: continue is.

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Speaker 3: If you don't get your way. If you don't get

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Speaker 3: your way, do you think we'll have black market racing?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't believe that's a risk. But no,

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Speaker 6: I don't believe that's a risk, and certainly it's something

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Speaker 6: we wouldn't condain. We believe as a legitimate place for

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Speaker 6: grayhand racing. It's certainly where if its will be around

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Speaker 6: in terms of talking to politicians and correcting some of

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Speaker 6: the misinformation that's out there, in terms of what we're

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Speaker 6: doing to try and ensure that the interest of the

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Speaker 6: dogs a paramount. Last year we had nine youth in

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Speaker 6: Asias from racing incidents.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that four years ago at level was

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Speaker 3: sixty but to put out in respective, we'red thirty six

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Speaker 3: thousand start it's now.

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Speaker 6: Level was half what the Thoroughbary code was, So you know,

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Speaker 6: unfortunately there are some instances and racing where that will

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Speaker 6: happen that we have certainly worked hard to try and

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Speaker 6: get that level down right, and our jury levels from

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Speaker 6: a benchmark perspective of lower than Australia.

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Speaker 3: All right, would we have to leave it there? But

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Speaker 3: I thank you very much for your time and best

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Speaker 3: of luck with that Select Committee process Edward Reynold, the

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Speaker 3: Greyhound Racing New Zealand CEO. It is thirteen minutes after

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Speaker 3: six that bill passing its first reading in the House

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. You're a newstalk, said b and coming up

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Speaker 3: next we're talking well, whole bunch of stuff, including we'll

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Speaker 3: get to the cash on your Person story, how much

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Speaker 3: New Zealanders love.

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Speaker 2: Cash analysis from the experts, bringing you everything you need

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Speaker 2: to know on the US election. It's The Business Now

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Speaker 2: with Heather Duplicy Allen and my Hr EHR solution for

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Speaker 2: busy SMEs news talks.

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Speaker 9: They'd be.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and my Hr The

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Speaker 2: HR solution for busy smys on news Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Bad news for alb and Easy, bad news for homeowners.

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Speaker 3: In Australia, the Reserve Bank over there is kept the

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Speaker 3: OCR steady. We'll talk to our correspondent over in Sydney

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Speaker 3: about that. Just after the News at six thirty this evening.

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Speaker 3: Right now, the Reserve Bank says most of us are

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Speaker 3: still keen on using physical cash. It recently asked for

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Speaker 3: feedback on making cash available in a digital form, and

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Speaker 3: the bank says it drew the highest number of responses

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Speaker 3: it has ever received on anything it is asked for.

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Speaker 3: Eighty four percent of us we're worried about losing access

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Speaker 3: to physical cash, with big concerns around the privacy of

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Speaker 3: how we spend our money. The Reserve Banks Director of

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Speaker 3: Money and Cash is Ian Wilfred and thanks for being

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Speaker 3: on the show. Why do people want the secrecy of cash?

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Speaker 15: I think there are good reasons why people worry about

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Speaker 15: their privacy, and it's you know, it's a personal choice.

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Speaker 15: Is is quite a personal thing, and you know, I

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Speaker 15: think it's quite natural for people to have concerns about

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Speaker 15: people monitoring their use.

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Speaker 3: Is that what would happen with a digital currency?

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Speaker 15: No, No, not at all. In fact, you know, we've

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Speaker 15: been very clear that privacy is is really important to us.

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Speaker 15: We put out a big paper on it when we

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Speaker 15: did our consultation. This is why we call it digital cash.

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Speaker 15: It's to replicate cash. You know, it's private, it's quick,

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Speaker 15: you know you can it's fast direct, you can use

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Speaker 15: it offline. That's why we call it digital cash.

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Speaker 3: And what what am I what am I holding or

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Speaker 3: how do how do I pay with it?

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Speaker 15: Well, just as you you use different ways of paying

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Speaker 15: using your private bank account. Now you might use a

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Speaker 15: digital wallet, you might use a card, you might just

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Speaker 15: plug it into the internet. It would be the same

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Speaker 15: with digital cash, right so might just be a choice that.

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Speaker 3: You have my debit card right now? You know I

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Speaker 3: have cash in my bank account. Well I don't. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's the thing. Really, I don't do I had There's

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Speaker 3: a number on a screen. I mean, how is it?

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Speaker 3: How is it different? I guess? How is digital cash

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Speaker 3: different to what I do with my debit card right now?

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Speaker 15: Well, there are a few differences. One is you could

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Speaker 15: use it person to person, So rather than transferring money

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Speaker 15: from your bank to another person's bank and then eventually

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Speaker 15: they get it, you could just do it direct. So

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Speaker 15: you've got your digital wallet on your phone, someone else

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Speaker 15: has got a phone. That's what we call peer to peer.

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Speaker 15: It's direct. You could do it offline, so when the

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Speaker 15: power is out, internet's down, you'd still have that functionality.

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Speaker 15: You can't do that at the moment. You can do

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Speaker 15: it with cash, but you can't do that with your

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Speaker 15: private flack of bank accounts.

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Speaker 3: What about then, I think I get my head around that.

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Speaker 3: What about the privacy issue people have with digital cash?

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Speaker 3: Then how do you a we no one will know

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Speaker 3: even though it's digital, no one will know what you're

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Speaker 3: spending your money on.

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Speaker 15: So at the moment, you know, when you do any

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Speaker 15: form of digital transaction, it leads, it leads a trail. Right,

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Speaker 15: there's a footprint there. But what we've said is the

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Speaker 15: reserve bank who will issue the digital cash, won't see

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Speaker 15: any of the transactions because the way you'll do the

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Speaker 15: transactions is using a digital wallet, So the reserve bank

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Speaker 15: won't see the details of.

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Speaker 3: That, right.

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Speaker 15: So that's the point that we're making.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you won't, but someone will, which I guess

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Speaker 3: is what people are worried about, which is why they

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Speaker 3: like physical cash, because you know you have complets at all. Right,

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Speaker 3: So will you ever take physical cash away from us?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 15: In fact, the two things that really matter to people

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Speaker 15: are privacy and we care about that as well, and

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Speaker 15: keeping physical cash and we care about that as well.

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Speaker 15: We're doing a lot of work on cash trials and

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Speaker 15: rural community. We're looking at how do we make the

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Speaker 15: cash system continue to be there for people? So digital

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Speaker 15: cash is not an attempt to replace physical cash. It's

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Speaker 15: to give people choice of do you want digital or

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Speaker 15: physical or do you just want to use your bank

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Speaker 15: account money.

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Speaker 3: Currently in New Zealand you only have to accept cash

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Speaker 3: as a business for debt. That's my understanding of it.

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Speaker 3: In Norway, because of the risk of Russia and cyber attacks, etc.

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Speaker 3: They're actually moving back towards cash and they're changing the

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Speaker 3: law to make it compulsory for food outlets like a

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Speaker 3: supermarket or a petrol station to accept cash in order

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Speaker 3: that they encourage cash and society. You know, should they

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Speaker 3: need it, should the power goo art, et cetera. Would

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Speaker 3: we look at something similar here. Not that Russia is

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Speaker 3: a concern, but we have frequent weather events.

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Speaker 15: We are looking at all of those issues right at

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Speaker 15: the moment. So we did a big consultation a few

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Speaker 15: years ago saying, you know, there's a whole lot of

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Speaker 15: issues in the cash system at the moment. We need

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Speaker 15: to look at things like cash acceptance and cash availability.

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Speaker 15: So we're looking at all of those issues and in fact,

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Speaker 15: a lot of countries around the world are getting more serious.

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Speaker 15: Australia has just made announcements about retailers having to accept cash.

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Speaker 15: So we're definitely looking at all of that because we

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Speaker 15: care about the cash system.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Ian.

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Speaker 3: That's in Wolford with me, the Reserve Bank Director of

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Speaker 3: Money and Cash, talking about well the latter cash. The

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Speaker 3: thing is I went down to Napier right after cycling

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 3: Gabrielle and anyone who was there will be able to

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01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: tell you you can't do anything without cash, and who

1514
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: has cash on them these days? That's why in Sweden

1515
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 3: right now the government has issued a booklet, a war

1516
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 3: booklet that says you should keep cash on your person,

1517
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 3: cash in your home, different denominations, and we're forcing you

1518
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: if you're a business that sells basics necessities, we're forcing

1519
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: you to accept cash if someone wants to pay with it,

1520
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 3: because we needed in circulation. So it's interesting to hear

1521
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 3: that they are actually looking at that because at the moment,

1522
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 3: the only thing in New Zealand that is required to

1523
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 3: take your cash is debt. Everything else it's up to them.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two after six News Talk said be coming up next,

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01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: Farmers Feeling Good, Jamie mckaye's life.

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Speaker 1: The Rural Report on hither d for see Allen.

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: Drive twenty four after six news talks, there'd be I'm

1528
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 3: Ryan Bridgin for Heather today. Great to have your company,

1529
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 3: and joining us is Jamie mckaye, host of the Country, Jamie.

1530
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 3: Good evening to you.

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01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 9: Hi's the chat.

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01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 3: Great to have you on. And farmers are feeling good.

1533
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 3: Confidence is up, in fact, highest since mid twenty seventeen.

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01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I don't know whether it's a coincidence or not. Ryan,

1535
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 10: the guess who was in power and mid twenty seventeen. Yeah,

1536
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 10: so it's a bit of a tale of the tape really,

1537
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,839
Speaker 10: like farmer confidence has taken a bit of a battering.

1538
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 10: Obviously COVID happened during labour six year in power, but

1539
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 10: it'll be fair say that they didn't really have the

1540
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 10: back of farmers. So this is the latest Rabobank rural

1541
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 10: confidence survey, best since mid twenty seventeen. Reasons for optimism

1542
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 10: higher commodity prices and they've even got higher Ryan, By

1543
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 10: the way, since this survey has been completed, we've had

1544
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 10: that ten dollars announcement from Fonterra and obviously falling interest rates,

1545
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 10: so the other big one. But they're still the major

1546
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 10: concern in terms of farmer confidence and would be the

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01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 10: same for anyone in business or owning a house. I

1548
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 10: guess is rising input costs. No surprise. When it came

1549
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 10: to a differing farming sectors, it was the dairy farmers

1550
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 10: who were the most confident. And why wouldn't you be

1551
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 10: with ten dollar milk price? Sheep farmers, the red meat

1552
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 10: farmers are more confident because they're coming off a real

1553
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 10: low water culture perhaps other than key we fruit just

1554
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 10: sort of treading water.

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01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: At the moment.

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01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 10: And the other positive to come out of this, unless

1557
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 10: you're in the market to buy a farm, of course,

1558
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 10: is that farmers are expecting land values to rise in

1559
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 10: the coming year.

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 8: And I bet.

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 10: That is pretty much what a lot of homeowners are

1562
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 10: thinking as well.

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01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit of confidence there. Farmers not so happy

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01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: with their banks though.

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,919
Speaker 10: No, what did Nikola Willis call it a cozy pillow fight? Yeah,

1566
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 10: so this is Federated farmers who are on the warpath.

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01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 10: And my understanding, Ryan, and you heard it first on

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 10: your Higher Rating show, there is some big announcement from

1569
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 10: Federated Farmers on this one tomorrow. They've come out today.

1570
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 10: They've surveyed more than six hundred farmers, only fifty three

1571
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 10: percent of respondents are currently satisfied with their banking relationship.

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01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 10: That's a huge drop from the eighty percent in twenty seventeen.

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01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 10: Sheer milkers are the most concerns. They've got more at

1574
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 10: risk and they've got less security. Thirty five percent of

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 10: them are feeling undue pressure from their bank. Alarmingly, almost

1576
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 10: a quarter of us feel their bank doesn't allow them

1577
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:07,520
Speaker 10: to structure their death efficiently. I making them use overdraft

1578
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 10: facilities at very high in punitive rates to farm the

1579
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 10: capital projects. And Richard McIntyre from Federated Farmers is saying

1580
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 10: this doesn't just drive up interest rates for farmers and

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:23,799
Speaker 10: costs for farmers, it also unjustifiably drives up the profit

1582
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 10: for the banks. Now, it's not all bad news. If

1583
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 10: you're banking with Rabobank, well, you're probably doing okay or

1584
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 10: better than the average bear. Because I've got twenty three

1585
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 10: percent of the rural market. They've slowly climbed. They do

1586
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 10: nothing else but finance rural and farming. Are their satisfaction

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01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 10: rates are at seventy point one percent, and that's well

1588
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 10: ahead of the four Burgussi banks.

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Speaker 3: Well that says at all, doesn't it Jamie, Thank you

1590
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 3: very much for that. Jamie mckaye, host of the Country

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01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 3: with US. Can I just say what a little bit

1592
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 3: starstruck there, Jamie McKay A big fan of his. Nice

1593
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: to have them on the program and nice to have

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Speaker 3: you listening as well. Coming up after the News at

1595
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 3: six thirty, we've got a lot more to get to,

1596
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 3: including that RBA decision out of Australia.

1597
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 2: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge

1598
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: with the Business Hour thanks to my HR, the HR

1599
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: solution for busy sms on News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, it is twenty four away from seven your

1601
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. I'm Ryan Bridge. Trade chip war is

1602
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 3: going on between Washington and Beijing in case you weren't

1603
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 3: aware of this, and it's affecting in video now. In

1604
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 3: video you will notice the world's most valuable company in

1605
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: terms of market capitalization, and I'll tell you about that

1606
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 3: in just a second. But basically what happened last week

1607
01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 3: was the US did this crackdown on Chinese conductor companies.

1608
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: Washington puts some restrictions on about one hundred and forty companies,

1609
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 3: including chip equipment makers out of China. Some tariffs are

1610
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 3: basically been getting stuck into them a little bit, and

1611
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 3: so China has now hit back and it has imposed

1612
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 3: what it says is a well, it's accused in video

1613
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 3: of violating anti monopoly laws in the move that's widely

1614
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 3: been seen as retaliation for what Washington did last week.

1615
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 3: Right in Video's value and it's just wild to think

1616
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: about how valuable the market capitalization on this company three

1617
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 3: point four trillion US dollars. It is worth more than Meta,

1618
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 3: which owns Facebook, Tesla, Netflix, Intel, IBM combined. Incredibly incredibly

1619
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 3: valuable company and all of that, basically all that value

1620
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: basically coming in the last four years. It's known for

1621
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: its AI and its gaming chips. And here's the interesting

1622
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: thing about what's going on between and America rein video,

1623
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 3: China about seventeen percent of in Vidia's revenue, so it's

1624
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 3: not insignificant. And for China, Invidia supplies about ninety percent

1625
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 3: of its AI chips, so they're obviously trying to get

1626
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 3: their domestic production of this stuff going and encourage a

1627
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: local industry. It is twenty two to seven. Brian Bridge,

1628
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 3: the Australian Reserve Bank has ended the year where it

1629
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,839
Speaker 3: began with a cash rate of four point three five percent,

1630
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: disappointing many, no more so than Albanesi, who wants to

1631
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 3: get re elected. The bank softened its language a little bit,

1632
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 3: saying the board had gained some confidence that inflation was

1633
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 3: heading back to target. Paul Bloxham is the HSBC Chief

1634
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 3: executive in Sydney. Paul, good evening, Thanks for being with me,

1635
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 3: good day, Great to have you on the show. Let's

1636
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 3: start with what the bank was saying. What was the message, Well.

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 8: The message was that where they're making progress, inflation is

1638
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 8: heading towards their target, albeit very slowly. It's a very

1639
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 8: slow grind for getting care inflation, the underlying measures that

1640
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 8: the RBA focuses on back to the RBA's target. And

1641
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 8: so because it's a slow grind, they didn't cut interest

1642
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 8: rates today. They didn't feel that they could do that.

1643
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 8: But they are starting to hint that they're getting closer

1644
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 8: and closer and just a bit more confident that inflation

1645
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 8: will get back to where they need it to be,

1646
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 8: and so the next move is more likely to be

1647
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 8: down than up. Now, keep in mind, not long ago

1648
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 8: the RBA was still talking about having options in both directions.

1649
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 8: They were talking about not ruling in anything or ruling

1650
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 8: out anything, and they've dropped that line line of phrasing,

1651
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 8: and they're starting to talk more about the idea that

1652
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 8: rates are likely to come down but not quite yet.

1653
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 8: And then in terms of when, well it's likely to

1654
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 8: be in twenty twenty five. Obviously they haven't got another

1655
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 8: meeting this year. But the question then is sort of

1656
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 8: what is the timing in twenty twenty five And that

1657
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 8: bit is a bit harder because there's so much yet

1658
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 8: to happen, and there's so much data flow to happen

1659
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 8: even before the next RBA meeting, which is now ten

1660
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 8: We still ten ten weeks away in late February.

1661
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Speaker 3: To be fair to the RBA our perspective, I mean,

1662
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: we went much higher and earlier than they did.

1663
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 8: Right, Yes, So the approach that was taken to dealing

1664
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 8: with the high inflation challenge that both New Zealand and

1665
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 8: Australia based both countries faced the same challenge, the approach

1666
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 8: was very different across both sides of the Tasman. So

1667
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 8: as you say the ENZ had lifted interest rates early,

1668
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 8: they lifted them a lot more. Five hundred and twenty

1669
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 8: five basis points went hard, pushed the economy into a downturn.

1670
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 8: You've been in a downturn for two years, and that

1671
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 8: got inflation down quite quickly, or quicker at least. And

1672
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 8: so because inflation came down enough after being in a

1673
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 8: downturn for two years, the RBNZ has been able to

1674
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 8: start cutting rates. And they've done it, you know, quite

1675
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 8: a substantial amountment cut one hundred and twenty five basis

1676
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 8: points already. The RBA took the slow road. They lifted

1677
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 8: rates by left. They intentionally prioritized trying to stay close

1678
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 8: to full employment and to deliver a soft economic landing

1679
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 8: and not have a recession. And in doing that, of course,

1680
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 8: the trade off was always going to be that inflation

1681
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 8: would fall more slowly, and so it has. Inflation hasn't

1682
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 8: yet gotten down to where the RBA is comfortable, and

1683
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 8: we're sitting here and the RBA still hasn't had interest

1684
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 8: rates and so, yeah, very different pathways to sort of

1685
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 8: achieving their mandates from both the RBNZ and the RBA.

1686
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 3: Whose was the better approach or is it too early?

1687
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 3: Is it too early to tell? Because I mean, you

1688
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: look over here, and yes, we are dropping our rates

1689
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 3: and we're dropping them quicker than you can you know,

1690
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 3: your neckers after a night out going home side. But

1691
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, but over here it's like trying to revive

1692
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 3: a corpse. I mean, the economy feels so beaten and

1693
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 3: downtrodden that no matter how low they drop the rates

1694
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: at the moment, we're going to take a while to

1695
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: dig our way out of this.

1696
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 8: So two things. I think it's hard to like determining

1697
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 8: which one's a better approach is really it really depends

1698
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 8: on how much weight you put on how much preference

1699
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 8: you've got to keeping full employment everyone in a job,

1700
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 8: versus keeping getting inflation down. So you know, the RBNZ

1701
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 8: decided the priority was getting to get inflation down and

1702
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 8: to get it down quickly, and that was the way

1703
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 8: they approached it. But the cost has been that the

1704
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 8: unemployment rate has gone up a lot more. It's gone

1705
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 8: from three point two to four point six percent. The

1706
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 8: RBA their choice was, well, actually, know, we want to

1707
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 8: keep the unemployment fairly low, and so it's gone from

1708
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 8: three and a half to four point one. But of

1709
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 8: course that has meant that inflation has come down more slowly,

1710
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 8: so we've had more inflation for more persistent inflation for longer.

1711
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 8: In New Zealand you've gone the other direction. So it

1712
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 8: really depends on where which you prioritize. I'm a bit

1713
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 8: more confident about New Zealand than you're describing. I think

1714
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 8: the primary thing that's been constraining the economy really getting

1715
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 8: the slow down, has been the high interest rates. And

1716
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 8: now that they're going quickly in that, you know, down

1717
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 8: in that direction, I think it's going to turn around

1718
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 8: quite quickly. I think twenty twenty five you're going to

1719
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 8: get quite a recovery in growth in New Zealand as

1720
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 8: interest rates come down and households respond and the having

1721
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 8: market responds and so on. So we'll see. But that's

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Speaker 8: my forecast in New Zealand, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Paul Brilliant. And for Australia, the swaps are saying

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Speaker 3: it's a split chance of a drop in February.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's right about that for February. Our central cases

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Speaker 8: they won't cut till the second quarter of next year,

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Speaker 8: sor April or May. But well there's a lot of

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Speaker 8: data yet to come between now and then, and so

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Speaker 8: we'll move towards it and see what happens. But Ray

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Speaker 8: cuts in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: CEM likely brilliant.

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Speaker 19: Paul.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you on the show as always, Paul

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Speaker 3: Blocks and Ahspecies, chief economist out of Sydney. It is

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Speaker 3: seventeen minutes away from seven News Talk CB. We're going

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Speaker 3: to go to our UK correspondent coming up just before

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Speaker 3: seven o'clock as well. What's going on in the stay

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Speaker 3: with us.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics.

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Speaker 2: It's all on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and

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01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 2: my HR the HR solution for busy SMEs News TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen away from seven. What is Donald Trump saying about

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Speaker 3: Prince William. I'll tell you that in just a second

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Speaker 3: right now, though in the Brady is with us, our

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent, and thank you so much for being with

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Speaker 3: me this evening. Britain wants to negotiat the Brecks deal.

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Speaker 13: Here we go again, Ryan, Yeah, this will be fun.

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Speaker 13: So they finally realized that well, they're seeing the impact

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Speaker 13: in the economy. Breggsit has been an absolute disaster for

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Speaker 13: the UK. So Rachel Reeves is now the Finance Minister,

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Speaker 13: or Chancellor of the Exchequer as they call her. She

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Speaker 13: has been to Europe the last couple of days she's

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Speaker 13: been to a meeting of the Euro's own finance ministers.

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Speaker 13: That in itself is significant because no British cabinet finance

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Speaker 13: minister has done this since the bregsit deal previously was agreed.

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Speaker 13: And she has turned up and she's been made welcome

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Speaker 13: and she has called for a renegotiation. So what Britain

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Speaker 13: wants is less paperwork, less of the checks on British

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Speaker 13: goods going into the European Union. What the Europeans will

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Speaker 13: want is more access to the UK fishing waters and

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Speaker 13: a youth mobility scheme so young people across Europe can

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Speaker 13: come to the UK easier, more easily to study and

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Speaker 13: to work and to have a life here. So there

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Speaker 13: is a deal to be done. The last one was

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Speaker 13: done by Boris Johnson in twenty twenty. It was not

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Speaker 13: a good one. It was done very very quickly and hastily.

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Speaker 13: He described it as oven ready. Well, in the end,

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Speaker 13: nobody wanted to eat what came out with that oven,

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Speaker 13: that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: No, Hey, let's talk about what Donald Trump's been saying

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Speaker 3: after his meeting with Prince William, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: get to what he said about Prince William a little

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Speaker 3: later on, but what does he said about the king

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Speaker 3: in Paris?

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Speaker 13: So we're always under the impression that private audiences with

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Speaker 13: senior members of the royal family behind closed doors should

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Speaker 13: remain private. Not so when Donald Trump is involved. He

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Speaker 13: has blabbed pretty much everything that was said. He had

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Speaker 13: a half hour sit down with William in private in

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Speaker 13: Paris at the opening of the Notre Dame Cathedral, and

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Speaker 13: he said that he asked questions about Charles's health and

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Speaker 13: the Princess of Wales's health, and with relation to the king.

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Speaker 13: Apparently William said the Trump that his dad is fighting hard. Now,

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Speaker 13: William said, this is a positive. Trump then blabbed it

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Speaker 13: off to reporters in New York the other day. It

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Speaker 13: is absolutely everywhere now in the media. Buckingham Palace have

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Speaker 13: had to come out and just kind of clarify and

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Speaker 13: say when William said his dad is fighting hard, he's

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Speaker 13: staying active, he's working, he's getting out there, that's what

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Speaker 13: he meant by fighting hard. It's not as if he's in,

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Speaker 13: you know, the last throws of cancer treatment that he's

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Speaker 13: doing his absolute utmost to stay active, keep busy and

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Speaker 13: fulfill his duty. So I would imagine people in the

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Speaker 13: Palace behind closed doors are not massively pleased with Trump.

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Speaker 13: My only kind of curiosity about this is, at what

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Speaker 13: point does someone high profile realize that everything you say

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Speaker 13: to Trump will get repeated for his own benefits. Sometime

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Speaker 13: in front of a microphone and somebody tells him a huge,

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Speaker 13: big whopper that just makes him look like an idiot.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a good point, actually, it must be. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Palace must have known the risk when you talk

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Speaker 3: to someone like Donald Trump, but the risk that that

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Speaker 3: would be spread around the world because yeah, he has

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Speaker 3: formed for it, right, Yeah, but what about.

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Speaker 13: This real I do think one thing, one thing, right,

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Speaker 13: I do think that it's good that William sat down

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Speaker 13: with him and not Harry. William has half a brain.

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Speaker 3: That you can say that the top Premier League referee

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Speaker 3: that's been set what's going on here?

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Speaker 13: Yes, so this is really interesting. A very strange video

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Speaker 13: came out a couple of weeks ago. The guy called

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Speaker 13: David Coot, a forty two year old Premier League referee,

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Speaker 13: so on the top soccer referees in Europe, and he

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Speaker 13: was on a video with some men and they were

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Speaker 13: asking him questions It was all filmed on someone's mobile phone.

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Speaker 13: By the way, these are not journalists or broadcasters. This

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Speaker 13: was hanging out with some very kind of odd guys,

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Speaker 13: and I would say and suggest a very strict lesson

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Speaker 13: in choose your friends better or choose better friends. He

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Speaker 13: made very disparaging remarks about Jurgen Klopp, who at the

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Speaker 13: time was the Liverpool manager. I can't rep on the

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Speaker 13: family radio station what was said, but it was really

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Speaker 13: really awful to hear these words out of the mouth

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Speaker 13: of a referee who referees Liverpool matches. Then if that

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Speaker 13: wasn't bad enough, a couple of weeks later, a video

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Speaker 13: came out showing this guy Coot in Germany snorting through

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Speaker 13: a US dollar bill note what appeared to be a

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Speaker 13: white substance off a table during the Euro twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: four Championships and then the Capitol Off. A series of

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Speaker 13: text messages with a so called friend came out in

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Speaker 13: the papers the other day where he discussed in advance

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Speaker 13: of a match about a certain lead United player getting

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Speaker 13: a yellow card. The match was played the next day

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Speaker 13: and the named player in the text conversation guess what

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Speaker 13: he got a yellow card and the referee was David

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Speaker 13: coot So it's the end of his career. The Premier

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Speaker 13: League have sacked him and it's an absolute shame and

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Speaker 13: the guy is the author of his own misfortune. It

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Speaker 13: wasn't just one incident, it was several and these are

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Speaker 13: just the ones we know about. And a great shame

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Speaker 13: for him because what a privilege to be a top

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Speaker 13: class referee at that level.

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Speaker 3: Goodness me, what that is three stripes? You're out, doesn't it?

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Speaker 3: And thank you very much for your trying this evening.

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Speaker 3: That is our UK correspondent, Ender Brady. It is now

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Speaker 3: nine minutes away from seven on news. Talks have been

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Speaker 3: and I tell you what we're going to do now,

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01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 3: is Donald Trump? More of Trump talking about Prince William.

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Speaker 3: So he obviously spilled the beans on what on what

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Speaker 3: his father is going through, the King's going through. But

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Speaker 3: he also said this about Prince William. I'll just read

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Speaker 3: you the story because you don't need me to embalance anything.

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Speaker 3: It's that of speaks for itself. Donald Trump has described

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Speaker 3: the Prince of Wales as quote a good looking guy

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Speaker 3: after meeting with him in Paris at the weekend. He

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Speaker 3: looked really very handsome. Last night people seem to look

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Speaker 3: better in person. He looked great, He looked really nice.

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Speaker 3: And I told him that. Seriously, can you imagine any

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Speaker 3: other president saying that, or just any other politician. It

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Speaker 3: sounds so weird. But Donald Trump has formed for this.

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Speaker 3: And get me wrong, I find Trump hilarious. I find

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Speaker 3: him so entertaining. But he's he's got formed for this.

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Speaker 3: Where he meets guys normally the sort of big military

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Speaker 3: guys that he would sort of look up to, and

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Speaker 3: he tells them that they're good looking.

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Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of people over the years, big people.

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Speaker 7: I have a friend, big guy, one of the biggest

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Speaker 7: in the world, this big strong friend of money wed

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Speaker 7: like two fifty then which two fifty then is big?

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Speaker 14: That's like three ten now right, this was a long

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Speaker 14: time ago.

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Speaker 4: A lot of big people. I'm standing next.

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Speaker 1: That's some big people behind.

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Speaker 3: Me, big strong man. Eight to seven.

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Speaker 1: His talks it b getting ready for a new administration

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Speaker 1: in the US. What will be the impact?

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Speaker 2: It's the Business Hour with Hither Duplessy Allen and my HR.

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Speaker 2: The HR solution for busy SMS news talks.

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Speaker 3: It be news talks. It be just gone five minutes away.

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Speaker 3: From seven, and I can tell you that Cabinet has agreed.

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Speaker 3: This is according to a Stuff report tonight, Cabinet has

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Speaker 3: agreed to set aside nine hundred million dollars to buy

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Speaker 3: the new cook straight fairies. This is an announcement that

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Speaker 3: we're expecting, according to Winston, to come tomorrow. But guess

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Speaker 3: what once Peters gets out of this, because remember he

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Speaker 3: wants the rail enabled feries and for nine hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 3: are you going to get drive on drive off rail?

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Speaker 3: I highly doubt it. Winston is going to become the

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Speaker 3: new Minister for Rail. He's going to get a cushy

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Speaker 3: new job. He wants Minister a responsibility for Rail, and

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Speaker 3: Stuff says that the Prime Minister, Christopher Luxon, has agreed

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Speaker 3: to give it to him. So there you go. The ships,

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Speaker 3: the smaller will be a lot smaller than the five

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollar ships that were previously planned.

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Speaker 3: But remember that the costs blew out because of the

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Speaker 3: land side infrastructure, which went north of three billion dollars,

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Speaker 3: and that we don't know yet quite how much the

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Speaker 3: landside development cost is going to be, and that's the

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Speaker 3: crucial question. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. What's our

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Speaker 3: song Tonight.

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Speaker 12: A's Dilemma by Nelly and Kelly Rowland to play us

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Speaker 12: out tonight. News out today that Nelly will be coming

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Speaker 12: back to New Zealand to play a show. Was just

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Speaker 12: one show unfortunately you have to get all to Spark Arena.

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Speaker 12: But the Where the Party Act tour will be March

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Speaker 12: twenty first and next year.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good. Might just be here. Enjoy everyone, I'm running Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Great to be with you. See you tomorrow. We will

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