1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Welcome along to the unnamed podcast Thursday the seventh of 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: November twenty twenty four, one of my favorites. Yeah, what 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the seventh seventh November? Yeah, November. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's you know what like the you guy folks? 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're what's that horse race? They're all out of 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: the way. 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then just before the Christmas parties 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: start yesterday on the agenda podcast available, We're all good 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: podcasts are sold. G Lane asked me, when's an appropriate 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: date to stick it into neutral? 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Now? The problem there is he's my manager. 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, a sports podcast ostensibly, I don't know, it's the sports. 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: We describe it as a sports adjacent podcast. 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a good, good description. Yeah, sports adjacent. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, we okay, that's that's complicated. Well when you've 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: got your manager asking yeah, I was like, this is entrapment. Yeah, 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: good point, sir, So what did you what did you say? 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: I'd sort of try to take his lead on it. 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: I was like me, Lane, I'm spreading through the finish line, 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: you know, man. 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: For you now, but what about you? What are you 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: when you're sort of the thinking of checking it in neutral? Yeah? 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Good call, just lie, he said, December, he said, December. 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: First, I said, I'm probably pushing the I'm probably pushing 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: the clutch. 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks out from December first, I 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: think it's good to change down, you know, I think 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: it's it's not just put it in neutral. I think 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: you've got to change down. G Lane has never put 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: a neutral in his life. You know, he's he's the 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: kind of guy that he gets he goes first, second, third, fourth, fifth, 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: and he just he's he flows it in fifth. Well, 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: I would even just his vibe. He's a floor it 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: in fifth guy. 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: I would even describe it as almost flooring it in 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: third to where he's redlining at the hole up against 37 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: the limitter. Well, at least when you're flooring in third 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: that I would say. 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: The thing with him and flooring in the fifth is 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: you just use a lot of gas and you don't 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: go that much faster, do you know what I mean? 42 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: You've plant your foot and the gas just floods into 43 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: the into the motor, but you don't really because you 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: haven't got the revs going you actually, I don't go anywhere. 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: So ge Lane's always got the foot on the floor 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: using a heap of gas but oftentimes it takes a 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: long time to actually, you know, accelerate up to the 48 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: speed that you want to get to. 49 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: So what happens when g Lane puts it into reverse, 50 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: like slams it really hard into reverse? What sort of 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: circumstances lead up to that happening. 52 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Ge Lane in reverse? When has ever gone in reverse? 53 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: I feel like I don't think of it, feel like 54 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: quite often, for instance, after the radio, would I feel 55 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: like when he came into the building approximately three in 56 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: the morning and my little Kip on the couch and 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: him going and reverse, was him actually collapsing onto the 58 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: kitchen floor and in the radio? 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Again, I mean that's interesting. I wouldn't say that 60 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: he ever got into reverse. Then I think that that 61 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: was possibly neutral slash forth. But but you find that 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: he would have got straight back up again and away 63 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: he goes from that position. I don't know. I never 64 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: known Glane to reverse. He goes into car parks, frontwayst Yes, 65 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: he went back into it. 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: I would say that he would have been It's like 67 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: he was in neutral with a brick on the accelerator, 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: you know, so the car. 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah go nowhere, but going nowhere? Yeah, Yeah, it's a good, 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: good analogy for his life. Actually, just flooring it and 71 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: going nowhere is the title of his book, Flooring It 72 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: and Going Nowhere. What would the title of your book? Bed? 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: You have? 74 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: You have? 75 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: You put much thought into that. Slow and Steady Wins 76 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the Race. A really exciting book that so many people 77 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: would want to read. No, I'd like a cricketing part 78 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: of some kind, like you know, balls out, two league stumps. Yeah, 79 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: two league stumps. I'll be happy with that. Yeah, you 80 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: also be let through. Let that one through to the keeper. 81 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Let it through to the keeper. 82 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 5: Left that one through the keep because you just always 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 5: just leaving. 84 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: You've got to let a ball. You've got to know 85 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: where you're off stumpers, and you've got to let it go. 86 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: Every good batsman knows. 87 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: That sneck him out. Actually know, maybe caught in bold 88 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 5: might be yours, because you know. 89 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: What, I don't think I've ever been caught in bold. 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: Really, it's the worst feeling. 91 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: I've never I've never been caught in bold. I've been 92 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: bold a lot, I've never been caught in bold. Anyone 93 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: else ever been caught in bold? 94 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? A couple of times. Yeah, I tend to drive 95 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 5: on the app spoon it. 96 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: You'll sps timing and drive on the up. So I 97 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: missed those and I get bald. Yeah, yes, that's w 98 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: league before. I remember once I shouldered arms to swing 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: and how did that go? I got out? Yeah, Kevin 100 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: Jeremy Dunn who was the first living captain at the time. 101 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: It was a it was a club game, and he 102 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: didn't want to find me because he's a good friend, 103 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: and he just went, I just shut shaking his head 104 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: and he went, that's absolutely plumb slowly put his finger up. 105 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: Do you know what? I think? 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 5: It's actually not okay what you have to do here 107 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 5: in New Zealand when it comes to cricket umpiring, but 108 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 5: the fact that you have to umpire for some of 109 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 5: your best friends and then at least once or twice 110 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: in your life having to give them one of them 111 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 5: at ALBW because it's just like a refusable decision, and 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: it's just I hate it so much. I think I'm 113 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 5: I'm poring your own game of crickett is the worse thing. 114 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I hate it. Yeah, it is hard, it's a hard 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: thing to do, but I think there's a greater thing 116 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: that you have to work towards in those situations and 117 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: LBW for me, it's it's clear, it's pretty clear. If 118 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: there's a real if there's any doubt, and there's oftentimes 119 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: a good reason for there to be some doubt, then 120 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: it's not out. Yeah I know. And so if it's out, 121 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: it's out. And now you go one hundred percent sure 122 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: that it's out. And in that case, you've got to 123 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: give someone out. It's it's a tough thing to do, 124 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: but it's not right. What it does is if you 125 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: don't give that person out. Of my experience, it's generally 126 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: people who don't know the rules who actually struggle with it, 127 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: you know, who don't actually know the LBW rule. But 128 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: if you don't give that out, what happens after that? 129 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Generally you get reprisals going on. You'll get other people 130 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: that when they then come to one, they decided that 131 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: they're not going to give it out, and you get 132 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: the next behind that are clearly out, and then the 133 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: game just falls to bits completely. 134 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: The last game of competitive cricket I played, I was 135 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: filling in for a mate's team and the guy the 136 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: Batsman hit it and it got lodged behind his pad 137 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: between his knee and his pad and the keeper ran 138 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: around and pulled it out and then appealed, well, there 139 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: was one umpire from our team, one umpire from their team. 140 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: But then about fifteen dudes from the sides of who 141 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: were watching the game ran onto the pitch with their 142 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 2: phones and they googled the rules and blah blah blah. 143 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: And I was thinking, I was on the fielding team. 144 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: I was like, is this how we want to win 145 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: this game of cricket? They were, they were It was 146 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: their mates who were running on saying, oh, it's actually 147 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: technically out, and then the other team I was technically 148 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: not out. No, no, no, Well that just googled like 149 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: whatever rules, you can google anything and confirm you Yeah, 150 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: you're Specially. 151 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that's I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but 152 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: I would always say that's that's not out. Also, it's 153 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: not in the. 154 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: Spirit of did ball. Yeah, it's dead ball. It's not 155 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: in the spirit of the game. Also, like, is that 156 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: how you want to win? I know, like if we 157 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: won that game, we go back into the pavilion like yes, boys, 158 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: good work. 159 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd feel disgusting. I had a situation where I 160 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: was umpiring on Saturday. Actually kids cricket under thirteens and 161 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: one of the kids did a man cad on, which 162 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: is you know where you run out the non strike 163 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: or as you're running into bowl. How old are they thirteen? 164 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: I'd look straight at the parents, by the way, they 165 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 5: need to have a good heart, look at themselves. I've 166 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: got a kid going around me and kidding people. 167 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Well, but I was umpiring and the kid was out 168 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: men care and I and they and they the kids 169 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: were like, it's out, and I said, yeah, technically speaking, 170 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: but let's not do man kids. You know, it's not 171 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: in the spirit of the increase. And then they're like, 172 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: but it's out, and I said, as I said, it's 173 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: not in the spread of the game. Let's just give 174 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: them a warning and let's move on with the game. 175 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: And there were some kids that were like pretty hard 176 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: pushing it to be out, and I said, I'm the 177 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: umpire here, yeah, and very calmly, and I said, I'm 178 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: the umpire here. And if you want to warn someone, 179 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, because as a batsman you can't do that. 180 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: You can't know it's not good to do that. As 181 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: a batsman there needs to be repercussions for it. But 182 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: as a bowler and a person who played a bit 183 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: of cricket, but you know, never to a high standard, 184 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: but a bit of cricket. I would never. I would 185 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: never man kid anyone, and I wouldn't want a man kit, 186 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: and I never I've never threatened to do it. I've 187 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: never done it and then gone like taking the balls off, 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: run through taking the balls off, and then gone, that's 189 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: a warning. I would if someone was taking a head start, 190 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: I'd run through the crease. Yeah, but I would never 191 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: take the bails off or even shape to take the 192 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: balls off. You say, look, you've because when you run 193 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: through the crease that the non striker knows that they've 194 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: made a mistake. At that point. 195 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 5: It's such an easy fix though, because you know, as 196 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: a bowler from the limited amount of bowling that I did, 197 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: but I was down the non struggers in quite a 198 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 5: lot as you just at some point the battler just says, 199 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: go to the batsman and the umpire like, hey mate, 200 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: come on, can we just yeah, you're cheating a little 201 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 5: bit here, tighten that up and happy days. And then 202 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: if a man kid comes along, then fucking deal with that. 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Then I'm okay with the man cat after a warning. 204 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: Same Actually, weirdly. 205 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: If you give them a brushback, you run through your 206 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: crazy tenrouds, like, look, mate, I don't mind you're backing up, 207 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: but you're halfway down the pitch before I'm even at 208 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: the stumps. Then if they're doing it again, yeah, I'm 209 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: okay with just a. 210 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in that situation. Otherwise, what do you 211 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 1: do at some point there has to be some repercussions 212 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: otherwise because otherwise, yeah, yeah, I agree, But yeah, it's 213 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: hard explaining to thirteen year olds that this is just 214 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: not really a way you want to get anyone out, 215 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: because they're still trying to get someone out and trying 216 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: as hard as they can to get someone out. What 217 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: they don't realize is that it doesn't matter. But how 218 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: do you tell someone that it doesn't really matter. 219 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 5: Cricket's also a tough game for this because there's just 220 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 5: a lot of gray area and a lot of these rules, 221 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: And we went on a lot about it being a 222 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 5: gentleman's game, and of course it's not really, but at 223 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: the same time it kind of is. So it's quite 224 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 5: weird teaching people. How do you teach a kid about 225 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: things being half out? Yeah, it's the same thing with 226 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: the w W win. It pictures in line during when 227 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: you take it upstairs for if you know it and 228 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 5: you go upstairs and if the impact is with it, 229 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 5: the umpires cool part of the. 230 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yes, it was going to have the workouts, 231 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: but he's not out. 232 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 233 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 5: I think that that's the toughest part about cricket, and 234 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 5: the same with the man ketting situation, same with Wappam 235 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 5: with Johnny Bisto and all that with England. Is there 236 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 5: both sides to each argument, which is strange that a 237 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 5: sport can be played such a high level with that 238 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: going on. 239 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh, this was great about the sport. There's a whole 240 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: lot of gray in it. Yeah, it's it's always been. 241 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: I love those little bits of cricket because that's where 242 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: you really find out about someone. 243 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I can see why people hate it, but 244 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: the same I like it as well. 245 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: It's like learning English. 246 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: I'd say, if you didn't speak English, you learn English 247 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: before except I have to see. But then there's all these exceptions. 248 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes this would not. 249 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: That much game. It's just you're right English. But I 250 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: reckon that thing that they've done with alreally going deep 251 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: into this book. The three listeners left with the thing 252 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: they're doing with League, like you know, going back and 253 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: reviews and stuff over over the bunker. I know that 254 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: it's frustrating, but like, was it really like. 255 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: I would say the bunker does need to go, but 256 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: I would say that ninety Like for the most part, 257 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: League is adjudicated on vibe. If you dropped the ball 258 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: and went straight down, that's still considered a knock on. 259 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: Even if it backwards. The viber is you're holding it. 260 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: You fucking would dropped other guys ball, I know exactly. Yeah, 261 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: And I think that I like, I liked it like that, 262 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, I like that. 263 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: I like that part of it. And forward passes are 264 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: a bit bit like that because live when you and rugby, 265 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: you can just tell a forward past. It just feels 266 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: it feels forward. There's something about it. It just you 267 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: just know that it's not quite right. That's the rhythm 268 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. Yeah. 269 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: The thing that I find about the bunker, because I'm 270 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: probably more of a Warriors fan than a Rugby League fan, 271 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: I think it'd be fair to say, and I find 272 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: that if there's a Bunker decision that goes against the Warriors, 273 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: then I am like, fuck the bunker, why are you 274 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: going back so far? This is really stupid. But if 275 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: it goes in the Warriors favor, I'm like, you go 276 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: all the way back. You check that mistake from one 277 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: hundred meters away because I beat you, and there we go. 278 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: It is going back miles and miles, Like how far 279 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: do you want to go? Oh? 280 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: It tells you because they score a try and then 281 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: you're like, oh wait, but six phases also because like 282 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: only at the top level do they have the bunker, 283 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: but it even really club ground around the country, they 284 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: don't have a bunker. They just got a couple of 285 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: touches who you know, sons are playing in the game world, 286 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: and it all evens out. 287 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: I know this is that's and that's totally true. And 288 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: some people have more like than other people. Yeah good, Yeah, 289 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: definitely some people have more like than other people. 290 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 6: But that's life. 291 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: Got the same message in football at the moment, it's 292 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: driven me absolutely nuts. I've got the VAI that essentially 293 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 5: is just second referee to the game, so you've got 294 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 5: a referee out in the field and then everything is 295 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 5: so Also the v I can contact the reff mid 296 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 5: game and go, hey, mate, look, we're just going to 297 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: show you something that happened, you know, five minutes to go. 298 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: On the stream. 299 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 5: We've been checking it out, so could you just pause 300 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: the game, come and never look at And then the 301 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: referee is then been told him is he to come 302 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 5: check this out? So he's already thinking, fuck, I'm probably 303 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 5: going to have to lean to the side of the 304 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 5: var that you know that recommended me to have a 305 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 5: look at this. It's probably going to And then you 306 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 5: slow it down and it's like, funk. Now it looks 307 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: like every down, yeah, and you're just dealing with this. 308 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 5: And then it's the same thing like people will score 309 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 5: a goal and then you have to wait five minutes 310 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: to check whether or not it was on or off site, 311 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: and it's like this guy has just celebrated it, then 312 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 5: he's not, and then he has and fans fans are 313 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: sitting there in the stadium having a ship time. It's 314 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 5: a disaster what we're doing with just in terms of 315 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: all sport. 316 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: Well, there's another weird thing that's happening to And I 317 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: know that people listening to this six people left will 318 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: agree if they've seen it. But in kids cricket now 319 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and all kids, cricket you have, you're scored by an app. 320 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: So there's an app that the score is used crik 321 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: nore HQ HQ or you used to pick Cricket HQ 322 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: and I can't remember which one it is. It's either 323 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: player HQ or Cricket h Q. 324 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 5: It was just coming in as I was finishing up 325 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 5: my career. 326 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it sucks and it never works, and 327 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: it was always trying to tell you that the person 328 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: who's on strikes not on strike, so that the game 329 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: is now being controlled by people with this app on 330 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: the sideline. So two parents who are sitting there, one 331 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: will work, one at works, and one doesn't, so the 332 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: game constantly has to stop. It's so annoying. 333 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 5: Whoever, I'm sorry mate, whoever actually drives me nuts, whoever 334 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 5: invented the cricket score book. It's fine. It's the fucking 335 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 5: second best thing with the wheel, so good, and it 336 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 5: works so clearly because. 337 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: You follow along and if the play keeps going and 338 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: you muck it up as a scorer, you just GISs 339 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: and you put down a number. 340 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: I don't get why we're stepping away from this thing. 341 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 5: It really doesn't make sense to. 342 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: Go back to the good old days of having just 343 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: some autistic bloke on the sideline with the scorebook. 344 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Fine, same go everywhere. Scoring was never a problem in 345 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the game. The scoring bit was annoying for but some 346 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: people quite like doing it. You can talk and score 347 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: at the same time. You get quite good at it 348 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: once you score a bit, but you cannot talk and 349 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: do the player hq app at the same time. It 350 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: is absolutely impossible, So for anybody doing it, no parent 351 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: wants to do it. Every parent hates doing it. And 352 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: the other thing is the game has the rhythm of 353 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: the game. Rhythm of a cricket game is a crucial thing. 354 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: When you're the bowling team, you set the rhythm of 355 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: the game. You can either bowl your overs quickly, you 356 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: can bowl them slowly, but ultimately it starts with the bowler. 357 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: You decide the rhythm of the game. That fucking app 358 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: should not be deciding the rhythm of it. Currently, that 359 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: app is deciding the rhythm of the game. It's so 360 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: bloody annoying, and the kids have to stand around sometimes 361 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: five minutes and they're just sitting there so they wait 362 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: and it ruins it just it's so annoying. One of it. 363 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: I hate it, and it's because some parents want to 364 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: know some fucking stats. 365 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 5: One of the best memories I've got is around a 366 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 5: cricket school book. It was I was playing a game 367 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 5: against Amberly at of all places down there in North Canterbury. 368 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: We were up there for a country game, and I 369 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 5: bet it quite well. I was opening the Bedding Classic 370 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: hard and fast out of the gates. I had about 371 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: forty off twenty and then gave up, look it away 372 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: and goring a quarter as I always did. Sorry, Gordon Ketty, 373 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 5: I know you drove meny a mile just to see 374 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 5: me get caught in the boundary. But I then was out, 375 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: and I was quite kind of disappointed because I thought 376 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: I was going to kick on him and back quite well. 377 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 5: I was feeling good and I was fucking fuming, and 378 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: I went into this. I went in and say, you 379 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 5: know what, I found it to be my happy place scoring. 380 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 5: I always enjoyed scoring. It kind of worked well with 381 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 5: my personality. I enjoyed like the satisfying nature of you know, 382 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: writing numbers down and it all looking nice and trains love. 383 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Did you missturbate like four times a day? 384 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: It feels like a separate issue, and I'm happy to 385 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: cover that up after the break later on. 386 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 6: But that's a different people to know. 387 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: It's different. 388 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: That was so many unders, you be sorry, and. 389 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 6: Six pairs of undies for a three day trip. 390 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 5: We're walking off after getting forty off twenty odd and 391 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: I went to go and do the scoring and I 392 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: jumped in the car with the other guy from the 393 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 5: other team that was scoring in the car. Yep, so 394 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 5: it was me and this other guy. 395 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: Hot boxing a car while he's scoring. 396 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: Oh funny you say this. And then after a while 397 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 5: we just got chatting and I was talking to him 398 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 5: about upset I was, and he was like, oh yeah, 399 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 5: and he started coaching me and he was. He started 400 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: talking about technique and things like that's just the other 401 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 5: guy in the car, the other score from the other team, 402 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 5: So who the fuck is this guy? Who the fuck 403 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 5: are you? Anyway, we start talking and then he starts 404 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: talking about his son and I'm like, oh, yeah, something 405 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: sounds like a handy cricketer. Anyway, I've just been sitting 406 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: in the car with Shane Bond's dad for the last 407 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 5: four hours scoring a game of cricket and ambly there 408 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: and I realized after I'd got out of the car 409 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: that it was Shane Bond's dad. And to this day 410 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 5: I think to myself, half I had that four hours again, 411 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 5: would have been fucking punished. But instead he was just 412 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 5: helping me out in my bedding. What a great man 413 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: Shaneburn's I did. 414 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: You always find though, when you're betting, like when you 415 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: when you're going really well and you felt really good, 416 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: you never scored a mini runcke. 417 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was more to do with my own 418 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: technical deficiencies. 419 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: I felt when you're feeling the best, it is always 420 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: like you get a really good looking sixteen. Yeah, you know, 421 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: good out. 422 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 5: A good sixteen is nothing quite like I got a 423 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 5: good six I was so good at getting a good sixteen. 424 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: A good sixteen, and then could have kicked on that's 425 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: my day. And then I scratched your way to forty 426 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: eight and you go, oh Jesus, better terribly. Next thing, 427 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, you you know, that's the day when you 428 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: score one hundred is when you're scratching your weight. 429 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 5: And that's your one score, and that's your one score 430 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: for the season. That justifies you betting three. That's kind 431 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: of buying a new bet. 432 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: The next season. 433 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what didn't Kezy and the ACC eleven versus 434 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: the du Lux eleven games, didn't he bet through the 435 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: T twenty innings right opening. 436 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 6: And get twenty eight years or something. 437 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: Yes, he did, and he came off with a bad 438 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: in the air and we were like, yeah, okay, very 439 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: proud of you. Your run rate was so slow that 440 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: you have single handedly lost us to this game. 441 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: Great for him. He scored twenty odd my first. 442 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: Time not out, first time he'd played cricket, I think 443 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: basically since high school. Well, yeah, great, the Keys Show 444 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: was amazing. We've lost the game now, Keezy Show, because 445 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: we went at two. We went to and over for 446 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: twenty overs. 447 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: I watched that game, to be fair, I watched that 448 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: game on a live stream, and I was laughing out loud, 449 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying if I was playing, I'd be 450 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: any better because I'm rubbish, but I was. I was 451 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: laughing out loud at some of the things that were 452 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: going on. It was genuinely fund the slowness the pace 453 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: of that game, like how slow everything was in between 454 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: the overs, people just dawdling around the place. You don't 455 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: even normally watch something like that on TV and the Catchers, 456 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: eleven dropped catchers. Not a single catch was taken fifteen. 457 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: It was fifteen And the worst part is I took 458 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: one of them. You took a catch. 459 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: We don't keep on the dropped to catches, not in 460 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: when you're keeping you haven't dropped it. 461 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Rubbish. 462 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: I don't think I can think of a time of 463 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 5: drop catching game. 464 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: What I thought, we didn't make it. 465 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: He really took. 466 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: You do have good hands each you, mish. I saw 467 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: you under a couple of chaingers. You do have good hands. Well, 468 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: we know he took a stumping you and I took 469 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: a stump. That's right, Sorry, I took everyone dropped one 470 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: hands man, the notorious pants man, Joel Harrison, his hands 471 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: like feet. It was just him, It was he. It 472 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: was Lane dropped one. Yeah, Lane. Lane sort of pretended 473 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: that he didn't want to get around underneath one and 474 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: then but he accidentally found himself underneath the catch. You know, 475 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: you clearly didn't want to for a man that's. 476 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: So aggressive, Why is he such a pussy under a highble? 477 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: He used to have good hands. 478 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 5: And now something's happened. 479 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: Small hands, small hands. 480 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: So I think once the once the reactions go just 481 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: a fraction. Then the small hands start coming in. But 482 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: Joel Harrison's got no excuses. He's got shovels for mates. 483 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: You know he does. He's got big ye know. Ju 484 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: Laine had nothing wrong with his hands. I'm playing his 485 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: quick to good good hands. 486 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 5: The pantsman was too kind of rugby league focus. He 487 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 5: was trying to take it on his chest, was getting 488 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: the front knee up and it was causing him all 489 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 5: kinds of trouble. 490 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: He's one of those that ran real fast and then 491 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: stopped and then ran again, and then back and then backwards, 492 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: and then it's like, no, you've misjudged that man. I 493 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: I overran one. 494 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: I was down at bloody fine league and then one 495 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: was coming towards and I just sprinted as hard as 496 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: I could. 497 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Dove. 498 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: I haven't played on a pitch that nice who at 499 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: bay Oval and I actually slid past the ball that 500 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: went behind me and. 501 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Then over the bound There's nothing worse than a running 502 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: in attacking it, because I got big chain of coming 503 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: at you. You're in boundary running in attacking it, and 504 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: then it goes over your head. But it doesn't go 505 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: for six. It goes for two. Bounces for four. That's 506 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: that's bad. 507 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 5: I just remember with the one catch, I can think 508 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 5: of me dropping and these allegations that might have dropped short. 509 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 5: And that was the one out of the spa. And 510 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 5: that's why I'm still generally about a black leash infamous 511 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 5: catch where I leaped out of the spar keysy and 512 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: I kind of, you know, went flying after it. I 513 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: took a lunging dive forward. Unfortunately the ball just dropped short. 514 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 5: But that's the closest thing I've got to drop. 515 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: I think you misjudged it. You needed to get yourself 516 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: into a bit of position. I mean, there's no point 517 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: in lunging at the last second. You have plenty of 518 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: time out there on the boundary. Mate, I was in 519 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: a fucking spark pall. Yeah, but you had plenty of 520 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: time once you actually once you actually got out. I 521 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: think you watch flight down the ground. You need to 522 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: get out of the sparkle quicker'n mesh from the Meat 523 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: and Jerry breakfast on right now, I've got to see 524 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: it getting in the getting in the name of the 525 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: show and there. 526 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 5: Wait for the replay boys. Tell me this didn't drop short, 527 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: Jerry drop short? 528 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: We have a game on our hands. There's a meeting 529 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: going on. But you should have got out of the 530 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: spark clicker. 531 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: Look at the fucking dive, Jerry. 532 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: You needed to get out of the spark quicker, and 533 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: then you wouldn't have dropped short. You would have been 534 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: a meter further forward. 535 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 5: This is from a man that thinks fucking fielding and 536 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 5: slips as a mother's meeting. Like I've had to be 537 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 5: the keeper for you before in the slaps, and you're 538 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 5: one of those people that forgets that. You know, as 539 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 5: a slipsman, you've actually got Judy's Now. 540 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: I dropped that. I dropped that absolute and slap. Do 541 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: you remember that? 542 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 5: Isn't it funny? 543 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: Marshal? 544 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 5: Always remember the things they dropped. There was three or 545 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 5: four years ago straight. 546 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: I watched it. I saw it off the bat as 547 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: twine in the year. I thought as he went forward, 548 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: I thought, this is a great opportunity. This might he 549 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: might neck this and it might come right down my 550 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: throat that straw. I saw it all the way off 551 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: the bat and in and out. 552 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 6: Who was the bowler? Do you remember who the bowler was? 553 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 6: Ha muh Marshall, Oh, he was the bowler? 554 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: Have you done anything to work on you out of 555 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: the spar speed. No, No, it's probably a bit longer 556 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: than you'd like it to be. 557 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 5: At the stage I have had a chat to I 558 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 5: think it was Andy Ellis who was heading that who 559 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: hit that shot. Yeah, and then I've also had a 560 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: chat to Nathan McCallum. I'm not sure if those boys 561 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 5: are locked in this year yet, but they have said 562 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 5: that if they do participate in this year's Black Class 563 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 5: that we maybe we should take a look at setting 564 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 5: something up again in that area. But I do need 565 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 5: to Braaktice. Maybe Jerry, we could get you. 566 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: You're talking to the wrong people, mate. You need to 567 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: talk to someone from the spar pools. 568 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 5: Well in terms of something some kind of contraption to 569 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: get me out of the. 570 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: Spark training regime, to just bring that out the spar 571 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: time down. 572 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: A little bit. 573 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 5: I think that's all I'm missing in the aulciousness night, Like, 574 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 5: if I get out of that spar. 575 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: You need to get out quicker. But but to do that, 576 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: you've got to be You've got to think that the 577 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: wall was coming to you. Before you get out of 578 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the spar. You were probably relaxing and the spa, probably 579 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: with an erection, let's be honest. And so when you 580 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: got out of the spa you were sort of you know, 581 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: half cocked and a little bit slow. 582 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: Well, I had to tuck things into the belt and 583 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 5: then you know, lunch for it. 584 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Imagine and all of a sudden you got something poking 585 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: out that. 586 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 5: Actually there's a little nugget for the podcast listeners there there. 587 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: Maybe next maybe this year at the Black Class, we'll 588 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: run a bit of you're in the spars here, you know, 589 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 5: you're not mania. You might be commentating. Is it announced 590 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 5: or if I just let something I don't know pretty sure? 591 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: Then maybe if I run a bit of a sock 592 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 5: down the front of the pants in just in case 593 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 5: if I have to lunge out of the spar again, 594 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 5: that there's no questions about, you know, or any issues 595 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: around the size of the package. 596 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: I saw. I saw where you were operating down that pee. 597 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: There's no need to from the country. There's no need 598 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: to run or something. There's no need to run. 599 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about. I don't mind you springing out 600 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: of the hot bring sparkle on the sideline with a 601 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: half mongrel. I'd just like you to bring the time down, 602 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 2: you know, and if you need to, if you need 603 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: to come to fall, you know, then so bad. But 604 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: I just need you to just shorten that distance up 605 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: a little bit. And you know, we're having an open, 606 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: honest conversation here, Mash. That's always been the knock on 607 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: you slow out of the spars what they say, is 608 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: there anything. 609 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: That will knock an erection down quicker other than possibly 610 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: your grandparents walking in on you then having to take 611 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: a catch down on the ground when you've got a 612 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: half mongrel. 613 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 5: That's a great question. 614 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: I think it'll knock it so quickly. 615 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: I'm trying to find the team talk that Gulane had 616 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: with us in the sheds after this game, because if 617 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 5: you haven't heard it, it is something else. 618 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: Hey, I need to go because I need to go. 619 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Where's really desperately? Okay, by the way, you so you 620 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: wrap things up, because I'm about actually about to wean myself. 621 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: I'll give you the cliff notes. 622 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: Lane just turned to the guy next to him, who 623 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: was a prize when I listening to the sec so 624 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: fuck you, and that was basically that. 625 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: What are you gonna say for yourselves? I gotta forgive 626 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: n two catchers, three maybe four eleven catchers. 627 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: I'll make it so fuckingthing for you, Broakes, say your 628 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: mother fucking you. 629 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Fucking hopeless, that was you? And I fuck what how. 630 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 4: Many fucking caches did you chop fucking here? I'm mag 631 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: it for you, fucking Luke, not one fucking game, and run, 632 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: not fucking run. 633 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 5: Then he slams the door as Hamish Marshall just walks 634 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 5: past and locks and going, what the folks has happened 635 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 5: in there? 636 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow? 637 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: We shout out to the guy he called a funk 638 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 2: with who was he? He won the chance to come 639 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: and play for the ace? 640 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: That was his prize? 641 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: Gelane screaming forward in his face. 642 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: All right boys, all right there, okay