WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 25 May 2025 0:00:06.815 --> 0:00:10.375 You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf 0:00:10.415 --> 0:00:11.975 Camp from News Talks. 0:00:11.775 --> 0:00:14.975 Ed by doing up the house, storning the garden. 0:00:15.095 --> 0:00:18.535 Ask Pete for ahead the Resident Builder with Peter wolf 0:00:18.575 --> 0:00:22.335 Camp Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talks edb even 0:00:22.375 --> 0:00:24.455 when the grass is overgrown in the. 0:00:24.535 --> 0:00:29.815 Yard, even when the dog is too old to borrow, 0:00:31.335 --> 0:00:34.375 and when you're sitting at the table trying not to 0:00:34.495 --> 0:00:42.935 stop scissor home even when we are benn, even when 0:00:43.055 --> 0:00:59.975 you're therellone house is a hold, even when those ghost 0:01:00.535 --> 0:01:03.215 even when you got around from the ones you love 0:01:03.255 --> 0:01:08.815 your most, you scream it does broken pans being in Fundel. 0:01:10.815 --> 0:01:13.575 Locals West when they're gone, even never. 0:01:14.775 --> 0:01:23.735 Has even when will Ravne, even when you're in their lone. 0:01:33.055 --> 0:01:35.375 And a very very good morning and welcome along to 0:01:35.415 --> 0:01:38.415 the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Peter wolf Camp, 0:01:38.455 --> 0:01:42.695 the Resident Builder. We are talking all things building construction, 0:01:43.455 --> 0:01:47.415 the rules, the regulations, the products, the selection of various 0:01:47.455 --> 0:01:50.775 items that all come together to make your house hopefully 0:01:50.895 --> 0:01:54.375 a home. We can talk about contractors, we can talk about, 0:01:54.975 --> 0:01:58.135 like I say, legislation changes, the legislation. There's plenty of 0:01:58.175 --> 0:02:01.095 that happening at the moment proposed changes, and we can 0:02:01.095 --> 0:02:03.695 talk about the fact that next weekend is a long weekend, 0:02:03.735 --> 0:02:06.895 isn't it. It is King's Birthday weekend. So maybe you've 0:02:06.935 --> 0:02:09.095 got a job that you're thinking, well, I don't really 0:02:09.255 --> 0:02:11.015 have time to do it in two days, but hey, 0:02:11.055 --> 0:02:14.215 three days could be the tipping point. Three days could 0:02:14.215 --> 0:02:18.415 be the opportunity to crack through a particular project. It'd 0:02:18.455 --> 0:02:22.495 be really interesting to see what projects you've got hopefully 0:02:23.335 --> 0:02:25.695 long term forecast and look that great for the end 0:02:25.735 --> 0:02:28.295 of this week, but there might be some indoor jobs 0:02:28.375 --> 0:02:30.775 you want to try and achieve over the course of 0:02:30.815 --> 0:02:33.535 next week. A couple of things on the show today. 0:02:34.135 --> 0:02:38.175 Our painting expert Jay Sharples from Razine Color Shops from 0:02:38.255 --> 0:02:41.015 Razine Paints, will be back with us from seven to 0:02:41.055 --> 0:02:45.175 twenty five, so we'll be taking text questions there from 0:02:45.375 --> 0:02:48.615 you to Jay Tricky the better anything to do with 0:02:48.735 --> 0:02:53.615 painting preparation, paint selection, those sorts of things probably not 0:02:53.655 --> 0:02:55.295 going to give you a lot of help in terms 0:02:55.335 --> 0:02:58.015 of choosing the color. That's very much up to you. 0:02:58.095 --> 0:03:01.335 But once you've made your color choice, we can certainly 0:03:01.335 --> 0:03:04.655 help with the technical advice around getting a really good 0:03:04.735 --> 0:03:08.375 painting job. And to be I think we're starting to 0:03:08.455 --> 0:03:12.735 get the message that really painting is all about systems 0:03:12.775 --> 0:03:16.535 now in terms of this product goes with this one 0:03:16.975 --> 0:03:19.015 to achieve an end result. And I'm thinking about a 0:03:19.095 --> 0:03:23.335 job that I finally got finished this week, timber post 0:03:23.375 --> 0:03:27.055 that needed to be replaced. It was a laminated post, 0:03:27.095 --> 0:03:30.775 it had already been primed. I had to do some shamfering. 0:03:30.775 --> 0:03:33.255 I had to make some decorative elements to it. I 0:03:33.295 --> 0:03:35.135 had to cut the top and the bottom off, et cetera, 0:03:35.575 --> 0:03:38.855 half house the top and then seal all of that. 0:03:39.295 --> 0:03:42.015 Then I sanded the original primer back and then I 0:03:42.055 --> 0:03:45.495 applied a new coat of oil based primer on it 0:03:45.575 --> 0:03:49.615 to lock it all in place. Then went ahead and 0:03:49.695 --> 0:03:53.335 put a water borne primer over the top, which is 0:03:53.375 --> 0:03:56.335 a good adhesion primer to my eventual top coat. So 0:03:56.575 --> 0:03:59.095 it's all around systems sometimes with painting. So we can 0:03:59.095 --> 0:04:02.655 talk about that as well. And then we're into the 0:04:02.655 --> 0:04:04.935 garden of course with through climb pass from around seven 0:04:04.935 --> 0:04:06.695 point thirty as well. But if if you've got a 0:04:06.695 --> 0:04:09.455 building question, let's get into it. Oh eight hundred and 0:04:09.495 --> 0:04:12.935 eighty ten eighty is the number to call, and Rod 0:04:13.095 --> 0:04:14.135 a very good morning. 0:04:15.015 --> 0:04:17.695 Yeah, good morning for you. Good morning, my first time calling. 0:04:18.135 --> 0:04:19.615 Nice of you to call, nice to hear from you. 0:04:20.655 --> 0:04:22.695 Thank you very much. Hey, look, I want to see 0:04:22.695 --> 0:04:25.215 and help me. I've got one of these prefabricated cabins 0:04:25.255 --> 0:04:28.695 in our garden and it's rot has set into some 0:04:28.735 --> 0:04:30.935 of the corners. So it's some of these ones which 0:04:30.935 --> 0:04:33.575 has got like the corner's over lock and a T shape, 0:04:33.575 --> 0:04:36.255 so it's it's got like three corners on it. But 0:04:36.295 --> 0:04:39.575 the rain has got into it and it's got a 0:04:39.575 --> 0:04:43.055 bit of rot. And I was thinking to basically break 0:04:43.055 --> 0:04:45.215 out the rot and then fill it with bog. But 0:04:46.455 --> 0:04:48.815 what would you recommend? Is there some sort of preservative 0:04:48.855 --> 0:04:49.855 or something I should put in? 0:04:50.055 --> 0:04:53.535 Yeah, there's a couple of things there. So obviously it's 0:04:53.575 --> 0:04:57.535 it's timber on the exterior. How old's the cabin because 0:04:57.895 --> 0:05:02.375 realistically it's shouldn't rot that any. 0:05:01.455 --> 0:05:03.735 It's only four years old. It's only been in for 0:05:03.815 --> 0:05:07.895 four years. But yeah, it's I think, well, it's been 0:05:07.935 --> 0:05:10.255 fully painted and everything in the time it's been in. 0:05:10.335 --> 0:05:12.655 But I think it's a bit of a floor and 0:05:12.695 --> 0:05:15.175 the sign perhaps, Yeah, sure, it just gets under those 0:05:15.535 --> 0:05:18.615 those external external corners. There's no flashings or things on 0:05:18.615 --> 0:05:19.455 the corners. 0:05:19.095 --> 0:05:23.695 So yeah, okay, And how extensive is the rotted part, 0:05:23.775 --> 0:05:28.015 the part that's gone soft your. 0:05:27.935 --> 0:05:32.855 Fist or yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's it's 0:05:32.895 --> 0:05:35.775 smaller than my head. Actually, there's two parts to one 0:05:35.855 --> 0:05:38.335 is on the back corner. Yes, it had it had 0:05:38.535 --> 0:05:41.255 it had no down pipe on it, so it's off 0:05:41.255 --> 0:05:43.255 the ground there and that's right. It out pretty bad. 0:05:43.455 --> 0:05:45.455 But on the other corners, it's just a little bit 0:05:45.455 --> 0:05:47.655 in some of the other corners, okay. 0:05:48.375 --> 0:05:52.055 I mean sometimes the challenge with fetching out some rot 0:05:52.215 --> 0:05:55.535 and filling it with a product something you mix up 0:05:55.575 --> 0:05:57.535 right and mad in there is whether or not there's 0:05:57.655 --> 0:06:01.655 enough solid material for that to hold on to. Right, 0:06:02.815 --> 0:06:05.535 So as long as it's well supported and there's a 0:06:05.655 --> 0:06:10.015 small area of decay, but it's surrounded by an area 0:06:10.095 --> 0:06:12.815 that you're whatever bonding agent you're going to use or 0:06:12.815 --> 0:06:15.415 whatever filling agent you're going to use, can actually stick 0:06:15.455 --> 0:06:20.335 to something, then that's a good approach to take. Sometimes 0:06:20.375 --> 0:06:24.335 you might find that exactly what I well, in a sense, 0:06:24.375 --> 0:06:26.375 what I had there a little while ago. So I 0:06:26.495 --> 0:06:28.175 was picking out a little bit of rot on a 0:06:28.255 --> 0:06:31.495 veranda post right by the time I picked it out, 0:06:31.775 --> 0:06:34.135 my putty knife had gone from one side to the other. 0:06:34.295 --> 0:06:36.455 I went right through it, and I thought, well, I 0:06:36.455 --> 0:06:39.815 can cut the post off and put in a piece 0:06:40.695 --> 0:06:42.935 and make a join that will be strong and all 0:06:42.975 --> 0:06:44.615 the rest of it, or I'll just pull the whole 0:06:44.655 --> 0:06:46.375 post out, which is what I ended up doing. So 0:06:46.415 --> 0:06:48.735 I pulled the post out, got another one, copied all 0:06:48.735 --> 0:06:51.815 the detail, put the new one in. So I just 0:06:51.855 --> 0:06:55.455 wonder whether, if it's like a box corner, for all 0:06:55.455 --> 0:06:58.175 of the time and effort that you might spend fetching 0:06:58.175 --> 0:07:00.575 out a little piece of rot and filling it and 0:07:00.655 --> 0:07:03.015 so on and so forth, could you look at or 0:07:03.055 --> 0:07:04.935 maybe get some advice on it. You know, pull the 0:07:04.935 --> 0:07:08.175 box corner off, buy some new timber, replace that, and 0:07:08.255 --> 0:07:10.415 chances are the timber that you're going to replace it 0:07:10.535 --> 0:07:13.095 with will have a higher treatment level than what they 0:07:13.215 --> 0:07:16.615 might have used, So you might want to use H 0:07:16.695 --> 0:07:18.975 three point two. But let's say there's just a small 0:07:19.015 --> 0:07:20.935 area of ro that you want to fix out. You 0:07:20.975 --> 0:07:24.495 can cut out or just scrape out any loose material. 0:07:24.975 --> 0:07:28.135 There are some timber preservatives like metal X for example, 0:07:28.215 --> 0:07:33.375 that will help prevent further rot to that area. There's 0:07:33.415 --> 0:07:35.175 also a product that I picked up the other day 0:07:35.215 --> 0:07:39.815 called basically wood hardener, right, which you just flood the 0:07:39.935 --> 0:07:43.095 area with this product and you don't let it dry. 0:07:43.295 --> 0:07:45.975 You keep applying it until it gets like a gloss 0:07:46.095 --> 0:07:49.535 on it, and then once it's saturated, you let it 0:07:49.615 --> 0:07:52.655 dry and it literally hardens up all of that slightly 0:07:52.735 --> 0:07:56.655 soft fibrous material around the edge of the rotten area. 0:07:57.135 --> 0:08:02.215 And then my go to in terms of those sorts 0:08:02.215 --> 0:08:05.895 of repairs is a product called repair Care, which is 0:08:06.375 --> 0:08:08.775 a two part compound. They both come in a tube, 0:08:09.415 --> 0:08:13.735 so like a corking tube, you mix them together. If 0:08:13.735 --> 0:08:15.215 you're doing a lot of it, you can buy a 0:08:15.215 --> 0:08:17.975 special corking gun that's got two pistons in it so 0:08:18.015 --> 0:08:20.655 you can discharge it at the same time. Otherwise, I've 0:08:20.735 --> 0:08:25.215 kind of just figured out the proportions and extruded them out, 0:08:25.455 --> 0:08:30.695 mixed this together and it's it's has some adhesive qualities 0:08:30.735 --> 0:08:34.215 to it, but also once it hardens, you can sand 0:08:34.255 --> 0:08:37.215 it and paint it. So that's Repair Care and you 0:08:37.295 --> 0:08:38.935 get that from the Razine shops. 0:08:39.775 --> 0:08:41.855 That's fantastic. Yeah, thank you very much. 0:08:41.935 --> 0:08:42.655 So there's a little bit. 0:08:42.575 --> 0:08:44.495 Of stuff in there, but you know, if you're going 0:08:44.535 --> 0:08:47.495 to open up that area, do make sure you add 0:08:47.495 --> 0:08:50.375 a timber preservative, just to stop any rot that might 0:08:50.455 --> 0:08:56.095 still be there from extending. Okay, all the best, take care. 0:08:57.255 --> 0:08:59.575 I mean, look, it's not unfair to say you would 0:08:59.575 --> 0:09:03.935 expect the exterior cladding to last longer than four years, 0:09:03.975 --> 0:09:07.815 even if it is getting saturated with stormwater coming off 0:09:07.815 --> 0:09:11.175 the roof that doesn't have a downpipe. But I mean, 0:09:11.215 --> 0:09:13.615 I'm still grizzling at the fact that I'm replacing decking 0:09:13.935 --> 0:09:17.375 boards that are twenty years old because it was LSOP 0:09:17.535 --> 0:09:21.895 treated timber and it just hasn't lasted. There's a slight 0:09:21.975 --> 0:09:24.295 irony at the fact that the deck that I built 0:09:24.335 --> 0:09:27.175 at the back of the house twenty something years ago, 0:09:27.615 --> 0:09:29.695 the boards have started to rot. When I step out 0:09:29.695 --> 0:09:31.735 the front of the house onto the calorie boards that 0:09:31.775 --> 0:09:35.575 were put down in nineteen oh five, the majority of those, 0:09:36.175 --> 0:09:38.975 probably ninety percent of those, are actually still in really 0:09:38.975 --> 0:09:43.175 good condition and untreated. Of course, it is sixteen minutes 0:09:43.255 --> 0:09:46.535 after six oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:09:46.575 --> 0:09:48.735 the number to call. You can text through as well 0:09:48.735 --> 0:09:51.415 if you've got a comment or a question. That's nine 0:09:51.495 --> 0:09:55.055 two nine two is ZBZB please text through your painting 0:09:55.175 --> 0:09:58.215 questions for Jay, our painting expert, and we'll be back 0:09:58.255 --> 0:09:59.975 to talk to Trevor straight after the break. 0:10:00.135 --> 0:10:03.015 Whether you're painting was ceiling, fixing with feds, or wondering 0:10:03.055 --> 0:10:05.935 how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter Wolfgavicle, 0:10:08.295 --> 0:10:11.735 the resident builder on Youth Dogs two. 0:10:11.855 --> 0:10:13.735 This is an interesting text that's just come through and 0:10:13.735 --> 0:10:15.855 I'll dig into it. But hey, Peter w thank you 0:10:15.935 --> 0:10:19.735 very much. Is there an available database of renovation projects? 0:10:19.735 --> 0:10:23.135 Looking to use it to estimate a reno project cost 0:10:23.295 --> 0:10:29.215 and duration? To the best of my knowledge, there isn't 0:10:30.775 --> 0:10:34.655 one guy that does provide a truckload of data around 0:10:35.255 --> 0:10:37.975 construction and so on. He's been interviewed, I think on 0:10:38.015 --> 0:10:40.815 this station a couple of times. Mike Blackburn out of 0:10:40.895 --> 0:10:45.255 christ Church does analysis of particularly building consents and that 0:10:45.335 --> 0:10:49.335 sort of thing. Whether or not he's got data around that, 0:10:49.455 --> 0:10:53.455 but check him out online. He's very very active online 0:10:53.815 --> 0:10:56.175 with a lot of really really good information. So Mike 0:10:56.255 --> 0:11:00.655 Blackburn out of christ Church might have something, but that's 0:11:00.695 --> 0:11:03.975 a I'll bear that in mind. I don't know if 0:11:03.975 --> 0:11:07.695 there is something like that. Trevor, very good morning to you. 0:11:09.255 --> 0:11:13.175 Yes, good morning, Peace, from gislon good morning. Thank you 0:11:13.255 --> 0:11:16.415 for your excellent program. Mate, you're revelating to all other 0:11:16.455 --> 0:11:19.535 people who haven't got too much knowledge about building. 0:11:19.575 --> 0:11:21.175 Mate. 0:11:22.055 --> 0:11:24.855 Yeah, my problem is that when we bought our house 0:11:24.895 --> 0:11:29.535 in September twenty and twelve, we were unaware that the 0:11:29.615 --> 0:11:33.495 house was fitted out with this quest Ducks poly beautiy 0:11:33.535 --> 0:11:37.295 in pipe providing water to various parts of the house. Well, 0:11:37.935 --> 0:11:41.535 since then we've had five failings of the pipe, which 0:11:41.615 --> 0:11:44.215 is meant you've had to call in a plumber to 0:11:44.295 --> 0:11:49.455 come and replace the pipe. And talking to the Laiser 0:11:49.575 --> 0:11:52.655 plumbing boys, they tell me that there's hundreds and thousands 0:11:52.695 --> 0:11:56.415 of people have been affected by the failure of this pipe. 0:11:56.895 --> 0:12:03.975 And you know we're pensioners, part up pensioners having to 0:12:04.055 --> 0:12:08.375 fork out money each time the pipe fails. It's caused 0:12:09.055 --> 0:12:13.055 softening up the brawboards around the hot water cylinder where 0:12:13.055 --> 0:12:17.935 it do birth. And just recently another pipe burst underneath 0:12:17.935 --> 0:12:23.855 the spare bedroom and we've got writing billboards. And also 0:12:24.575 --> 0:12:29.015 the last plumber reported black mold and he said that's up. 0:12:29.015 --> 0:12:31.615 It's pretty toxic and get onto it and get to 0:12:31.655 --> 0:12:34.615 get rid of it if you can. But you know, 0:12:34.895 --> 0:12:36.975 I'm a seventy five year old pension and I'm not 0:12:37.055 --> 0:12:41.295 calling underneath the house or have that ability as well, 0:12:41.335 --> 0:12:46.975 you know, and we've had news from a couple in 0:12:47.055 --> 0:12:50.015 Hawk's Bad that the actual these pipes are in the 0:12:50.055 --> 0:12:54.575 walls of the house and the total replacement was eighty 0:12:54.615 --> 0:12:56.975 thousand dollars. Now, when you do a Google search, they 0:12:57.015 --> 0:13:02.895 reckon between three thousand and seven thousand dollars to work. 0:13:04.055 --> 0:13:10.095 In the situation, I think it's worthwhile claiming to our 0:13:10.095 --> 0:13:11.375 insurance company about this. 0:13:13.095 --> 0:13:14.855 Well, that was going to be my next question. Actually, 0:13:14.855 --> 0:13:18.655 what's been the response from your insurer? Because typically insurers 0:13:18.655 --> 0:13:21.255 will pay out on this, but because it is a 0:13:21.295 --> 0:13:25.375 well and I'm basing this off sort of firsthand experience 0:13:25.415 --> 0:13:28.455 in the sense that I know someone who has that 0:13:28.775 --> 0:13:33.175 system inside their house, the first couple of claims were like, 0:13:33.295 --> 0:13:36.135 oh gosh, I wonder what happened here, and then a 0:13:36.215 --> 0:13:39.855 growing awareness that it was essentially a systemic failure to 0:13:39.975 --> 0:13:45.575 use that well known phrase around the Ducks quest or 0:13:45.575 --> 0:13:51.815 the quix Ducks system. So the approach from that particular 0:13:51.895 --> 0:13:56.535 insurer was, you know, will will pay out one more time, 0:13:56.615 --> 0:14:00.255 but thereafter we're not going to pay out because it's 0:14:00.495 --> 0:14:02.855 just a maintenance issue. Now you know that you've got 0:14:02.895 --> 0:14:04.735 something that's not working, We're not going to keep paying 0:14:04.735 --> 0:14:09.335 you out every time an elbow bursts. The solution for 0:14:09.415 --> 0:14:12.295 them was to work with their plumber and builder to 0:14:12.415 --> 0:14:17.695 find a way of re routing or replacing pipework in 0:14:17.735 --> 0:14:19.855 the most cost effective way that they could. But the 0:14:20.455 --> 0:14:23.295 ultimately the only solution is to replace it. 0:14:25.735 --> 0:14:29.095 Yeah, well, we've got a five hundred dollars access on 0:14:29.135 --> 0:14:34.935 our building insurance anyway, so more than five hundred dollars to. 0:14:35.815 --> 0:14:38.295 It probably will. But there's a couple of things that 0:14:38.815 --> 0:14:41.655 might make it a little bit more affordable. So for example, 0:14:41.695 --> 0:14:44.495 if there's an accessible roof space like trusses that you 0:14:44.535 --> 0:14:48.655 can get around in. If for example, there's an underfloor 0:14:48.735 --> 0:14:52.535 crawl space so that you know, plumbers can come along, 0:14:53.095 --> 0:14:55.855 get access to the underside of the house, get access 0:14:55.895 --> 0:14:59.535 to the attic, and in some cases, yet where it 0:14:59.535 --> 0:15:04.055 gets disruptive is, for example, I had my plumber around 0:15:04.055 --> 0:15:07.415 on Friday to a job and we place to basin tap. 0:15:07.495 --> 0:15:09.895 Now I know that the pipes come up from underneath 0:15:09.895 --> 0:15:12.935 the floor into the wall to a wing back behind 0:15:12.935 --> 0:15:17.095 the cabinet, and so if there was a fault with that. Essentially, 0:15:17.135 --> 0:15:20.695 i'd need to take the vanity off the wall, maybe 0:15:20.895 --> 0:15:23.655 cut through the tiles a bit, take the wing back off, 0:15:23.775 --> 0:15:26.215 pull the pipe down, slide a new one up, make 0:15:26.255 --> 0:15:28.855 the crimp onto the wing back. So you know, it's 0:15:28.935 --> 0:15:33.095 the cutting through plaster board, opening up walls, patching that 0:15:33.095 --> 0:15:36.535 that makes it a more expensive project. I don't know 0:15:36.615 --> 0:15:39.815 that on a relatively straightforward house, I can't see it 0:15:39.855 --> 0:15:43.455 being a fifty or sixty thousand dollar job. So I 0:15:43.455 --> 0:15:45.375 guess if you can make a claim to your insurer, 0:15:45.615 --> 0:15:48.735 be really honest with them, and then take that money 0:15:48.855 --> 0:15:50.935 and go right, I'm going to use that to part 0:15:50.975 --> 0:15:53.655 fund the work, and then working with a couple of 0:15:53.655 --> 0:15:56.975 smart plumbers and chippy's, you might be able to find 0:15:57.135 --> 0:15:59.695 that you can get the bulk of the work done 0:15:59.695 --> 0:16:01.815 for what your insurance pay out. That's probably your best 0:16:01.855 --> 0:16:02.575 case scenario. 0:16:03.495 --> 0:16:05.655 Yeah, well our house is are lockwood, so we don't 0:16:05.695 --> 0:16:08.055 have any cavity. 0:16:08.215 --> 0:16:11.375 Oh okay, all right. That does make it more challenging. 0:16:11.975 --> 0:16:15.695 But a good calling space for a midget plumber. 0:16:15.775 --> 0:16:19.895 Yeah, young foot, energetic, young plumber. They'll be in there 0:16:19.935 --> 0:16:21.335 like a raight up a drain pipe. 0:16:22.055 --> 0:16:24.295 Yeah, just out of school mate. 0:16:25.095 --> 0:16:28.655 No, no, no, you don't want someone who's distracted by 0:16:29.335 --> 0:16:31.775 scrolling Instagram on their phone. You want someone who's in 0:16:31.815 --> 0:16:35.215 there and just going for it. But look, I think Trevor, 0:16:35.295 --> 0:16:38.055 unfortunately the best solution going forward is to do a 0:16:38.095 --> 0:16:40.375 replacement because in the end, you know, the bit that 0:16:40.455 --> 0:16:43.455 doesn't break will break later on. That's the really, really 0:16:43.495 --> 0:16:46.735 frustrating thing about it, right, Good luck with that, mate, 0:16:46.735 --> 0:16:48.535 all the best and thanks for calling. Oh eight hundred 0:16:48.535 --> 0:16:50.655 and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Twenty 0:16:50.655 --> 0:16:53.255 six minutes after six Ellison, good morning. 0:16:54.015 --> 0:16:59.095 Good morning pig. I've got a nineteen forty nine house 0:16:59.575 --> 0:17:05.015 and the south side timber is rotting and I'm getting 0:17:05.015 --> 0:17:11.415 it replaced in the next year twelve months time, when 0:17:11.455 --> 0:17:15.055 I've got the money. What I'm ringing about is I 0:17:15.135 --> 0:17:18.215 have to get scaffolding for the people to climb up. 0:17:18.615 --> 0:17:22.935 Who supplies to safety get? And where do I get that? 0:17:22.935 --> 0:17:24.295 If buy have to supply it? 0:17:24.655 --> 0:17:27.775 Sure? Roughly where are you in the country. 0:17:29.455 --> 0:17:30.055 Nine to nine? 0:17:30.295 --> 0:17:30.535 Okay? 0:17:30.615 --> 0:17:32.855 Oh well, look there'll be lots of scaffolders working out 0:17:32.895 --> 0:17:35.735 of either Wellington or in the hut. I was in 0:17:35.775 --> 0:17:37.895 the hut the other day. I'm sure there were scaffolders there. 0:17:38.175 --> 0:17:44.015 So it depends a little bit on in some ways. 0:17:44.015 --> 0:17:46.695 It's actually well, I know, you as the householder might 0:17:46.735 --> 0:17:49.815 want to provide scaffolding for the contractors, but really the 0:17:49.855 --> 0:17:53.095 contractors could include the price of the scaffolding in their 0:17:53.135 --> 0:17:58.015 work right, and so most contractors we might have a 0:17:58.015 --> 0:18:00.615 couple of mobile towers for example, you know the aluminium 0:18:00.695 --> 0:18:03.455 towers that knock down. Almost all builders that I know 0:18:03.535 --> 0:18:07.295 have got their own set of you know, relatively small 0:18:07.375 --> 0:18:10.335 tower that means you can get up and do maintenance 0:18:10.375 --> 0:18:14.695 work to a certain height. Now, if, for example, you 0:18:14.775 --> 0:18:18.375 need to scaffold an entire elevation because it's weather boards 0:18:18.375 --> 0:18:19.975 and you want to get from one end to a board, 0:18:20.375 --> 0:18:23.655 then typically you'll just go out and get pricing from 0:18:23.655 --> 0:18:27.895 a scaffolder for that work. Prices do vary quite a lot. 0:18:27.935 --> 0:18:30.895 One of the things I've noticed recently is over the years, 0:18:30.975 --> 0:18:36.335 typically if you booked scaffolding, there would be an upfront 0:18:36.375 --> 0:18:39.655 cost that would be for them to arrive, assemble all 0:18:39.695 --> 0:18:42.695 of the scaffolding, ticket it and get it ready, and 0:18:42.735 --> 0:18:46.095 then typically you would have one month's rent included in 0:18:46.135 --> 0:18:50.455 that right, and thereafter you pay on a weekly basis 0:18:51.175 --> 0:18:53.335 for the rent. I've noticed that that one month is 0:18:53.375 --> 0:18:57.935 shortened to one week, so just beware of that too. 0:18:58.495 --> 0:19:01.055 And it's really important that you say to your contractor 0:19:01.055 --> 0:19:03.295 when they're coming to do the work. If I'm going 0:19:03.335 --> 0:19:05.895 to put the scaffolding up, for example, on the first 0:19:05.935 --> 0:19:07.935 of May, I want you there on the first of May. 0:19:07.975 --> 0:19:11.615 I don't want you turning up ten days later, because 0:19:11.615 --> 0:19:13.375 that's that's going to cost you in the long run. 0:19:13.735 --> 0:19:16.135 So I think if it's I would talk to your 0:19:16.135 --> 0:19:19.175 contractor first and go can you provide your own scaffolding, 0:19:19.175 --> 0:19:23.175 which is not uncommon otherwise it is work done by 0:19:23.335 --> 0:19:27.615 qualified people. And they'll come, they'll set it up, they'll 0:19:27.615 --> 0:19:30.735 make sure that there's safe access onto the platform, so 0:19:30.775 --> 0:19:33.695 whether that's a ladder or a platform or set of stairs, 0:19:34.935 --> 0:19:37.135 it doesn't sound like it needs to be that extensive. 0:19:37.975 --> 0:19:39.695 And then they'll come and take it away at the 0:19:39.775 --> 0:19:40.335 end as well. 0:19:41.375 --> 0:19:43.775 And what about safety gear for them to wear them 0:19:43.775 --> 0:19:44.295 when they're up. 0:19:44.535 --> 0:19:47.255 No, I don't believe that you should be supplying any 0:19:47.255 --> 0:19:50.535 safety gear to your contractors. That's their responsibility or that's 0:19:50.575 --> 0:19:54.775 that's the attitude that I would take. And also if 0:19:54.775 --> 0:19:58.415 they're on the scaffold. They don't need to be harnessed 0:19:58.495 --> 0:20:00.735 or anything like that if they're on the scaffold. 0:20:02.695 --> 0:20:06.255 And the scaffolding guy could tell me on this, Oh absolutely. 0:20:06.415 --> 0:20:10.255 But you know, ideally with this sort of thing, you know, 0:20:10.415 --> 0:20:13.735 chances are when you get your builder or your contractor 0:20:13.775 --> 0:20:16.535 to do the work, they will already have contacts and 0:20:16.575 --> 0:20:21.095 relationships with scaffolding contractors. They should be able to help 0:20:21.135 --> 0:20:21.455 you out. 0:20:21.975 --> 0:20:25.575 I just thought i'd give you a corner and good, 0:20:25.615 --> 0:20:27.895 But somebody was up on a roof somewhere and they 0:20:27.975 --> 0:20:32.895 fell off and their love stars not too pretty. Now. 0:20:33.255 --> 0:20:37.775 No, it's look, I've got one project that I'm supervising 0:20:37.775 --> 0:20:39.615 at the moment where the guys will need to be 0:20:39.735 --> 0:20:43.095 on a roof. It's only first floor. And I had 0:20:43.175 --> 0:20:46.855 the guys from Orange Scaffold and on Friday doing edge 0:20:46.855 --> 0:20:50.175 protection all the way around, because I want them to 0:20:50.215 --> 0:20:52.695 be able to work safely, that's the most important thing, 0:20:52.695 --> 0:20:55.615 but also efficiently and not be thinking about, gosh, what 0:20:55.655 --> 0:20:58.375 happens if I slip or whatever, especially at this time 0:20:58.415 --> 0:21:00.695 of year, so edge protection is really important. But it 0:21:00.695 --> 0:21:02.575 sounds like most of the work that you need done 0:21:02.775 --> 0:21:05.095 will be off a scaffold, not necessarily off the roof 0:21:06.575 --> 0:21:09.255 on good luck Ellison sounds thank you very much for 0:21:09.375 --> 0:21:11.455 all of very best to you. You take care, take care. 0:21:11.695 --> 0:21:14.735 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call Judy. 0:21:14.735 --> 0:21:15.335 Good morning to. 0:21:15.295 --> 0:21:20.455 You, Oh, good morning, thanks for calling back. I'm going 0:21:20.495 --> 0:21:23.615 to have my roof sprayed for mold and moss yep. 0:21:24.175 --> 0:21:28.255 And do you have to have scaffolding around the house 0:21:28.295 --> 0:21:29.055 for them to do that? 0:21:31.295 --> 0:21:36.695 Not necessarily? And again, like as a homeowner, I guess 0:21:36.695 --> 0:21:39.775 you've got a duty of care to make sure that 0:21:39.815 --> 0:21:44.055 people are safe. But ultimately the contractors themselves, they should 0:21:44.055 --> 0:21:46.615 actually be saying to you, this is how we're going 0:21:46.655 --> 0:21:50.015 to do the job safely. So a lot of contractors 0:21:50.055 --> 0:21:52.415 who will do like roof spraying and treatment and that 0:21:52.495 --> 0:21:55.455 sort of thing, they will wear a harness, they'll have 0:21:55.495 --> 0:21:59.055 an anchor point, they'll have a system, they'll have a 0:21:59.095 --> 0:22:01.855 methodology for going This is how we secure our ropes. 0:22:01.935 --> 0:22:04.495 This is this is the training that we've given to 0:22:04.575 --> 0:22:08.695 our contractors in order for them to act and be 0:22:08.775 --> 0:22:11.775 safe on the roof. And because they're moving around a lot, 0:22:11.975 --> 0:22:14.775 often they will just go ahead and do that with 0:22:15.575 --> 0:22:19.535 a harness for example, and that's completely up to them. Certainly, 0:22:20.135 --> 0:22:22.695 whatever anyone does on the roof, they do need to 0:22:22.775 --> 0:22:25.815 prove that what they're doing is safe right now, whether 0:22:25.895 --> 0:22:28.495 that's edge protection or a harness, that's up to them 0:22:28.535 --> 0:22:29.095 to sort out. 0:22:29.815 --> 0:22:33.575 Well, it seems they've been in the business for since 0:22:33.695 --> 0:22:40.135 nineteen fifty nine and they say there's only one year's guarantee. 0:22:40.055 --> 0:22:43.175 On the seilant right, So is it a concrete tolerance 0:22:43.215 --> 0:22:43.495 for me? 0:22:43.935 --> 0:22:46.055 They're spraying to get rid of the like it a 0:22:46.175 --> 0:22:48.815 moss growing all overrom one side of the house. The 0:22:48.855 --> 0:22:52.095 others are right because one side never gets the sun 0:22:52.135 --> 0:22:55.895