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Speaker 5: And a very very good morning and welcome along to
Speaker 5: the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Peter wolf Camp,
Speaker 5: the Resident Builder. We are talking all things building construction,
Speaker 5: the rules, the regulations, the products, the selection of various
Speaker 5: items that all come together to make your house hopefully
Speaker 5: a home. We can talk about contractors, we can talk about,
Speaker 5: like I say, legislation changes, the legislation. There's plenty of
Speaker 5: that happening at the moment proposed changes, and we can
Speaker 5: talk about the fact that next weekend is a long weekend,
Speaker 5: isn't it. It is King's Birthday weekend. So maybe you've
Speaker 5: got a job that you're thinking, well, I don't really
Speaker 5: have time to do it in two days, but hey,
Speaker 5: three days could be the tipping point. Three days could
Speaker 5: be the opportunity to crack through a particular project. It'd
Speaker 5: be really interesting to see what projects you've got hopefully
Speaker 5: long term forecast and look that great for the end
Speaker 5: of this week, but there might be some indoor jobs
Speaker 5: you want to try and achieve over the course of
Speaker 5: next week. A couple of things on the show today.
Speaker 5: Our painting expert Jay Sharples from Razine Color Shops from
Speaker 5: Razine Paints, will be back with us from seven to
Speaker 5: twenty five, so we'll be taking text questions there from
Speaker 5: you to Jay Tricky the better anything to do with
Speaker 5: painting preparation, paint selection, those sorts of things probably not
Speaker 5: going to give you a lot of help in terms
Speaker 5: of choosing the color. That's very much up to you.
Speaker 5: But once you've made your color choice, we can certainly
Speaker 5: help with the technical advice around getting a really good
Speaker 5: painting job. And to be I think we're starting to
Speaker 5: get the message that really painting is all about systems
Speaker 5: now in terms of this product goes with this one
Speaker 5: to achieve an end result. And I'm thinking about a
Speaker 5: job that I finally got finished this week, timber post
Speaker 5: that needed to be replaced. It was a laminated post,
Speaker 5: it had already been primed. I had to do some shamfering.
Speaker 5: I had to make some decorative elements to it. I
Speaker 5: had to cut the top and the bottom off, et cetera,
Speaker 5: half house the top and then seal all of that.
Speaker 5: Then I sanded the original primer back and then I
Speaker 5: applied a new coat of oil based primer on it
Speaker 5: to lock it all in place. Then went ahead and
Speaker 5: put a water borne primer over the top, which is
Speaker 5: a good adhesion primer to my eventual top coat. So
Speaker 5: it's all around systems sometimes with painting. So we can
Speaker 5: talk about that as well. And then we're into the
Speaker 5: garden of course with through climb pass from around seven
Speaker 5: point thirty as well. But if if you've got a
Speaker 5: building question, let's get into it. Oh eight hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call, and Rod
Speaker 5: a very good morning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning for you. Good morning, my first time calling.
Speaker 5: Nice of you to call, nice to hear from you.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Hey, look, I want to see
Speaker 6: and help me. I've got one of these prefabricated cabins
Speaker 6: in our garden and it's rot has set into some
Speaker 6: of the corners. So it's some of these ones which
Speaker 6: has got like the corner's over lock and a T shape,
Speaker 6: so it's it's got like three corners on it. But
Speaker 6: the rain has got into it and it's got a
Speaker 6: bit of rot. And I was thinking to basically break
Speaker 6: out the rot and then fill it with bog. But
Speaker 6: what would you recommend? Is there some sort of preservative
Speaker 6: or something I should put in?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a couple of things there. So obviously it's
Speaker 5: it's timber on the exterior. How old's the cabin because
Speaker 5: realistically it's shouldn't rot that any.
Speaker 6: It's only four years old. It's only been in for
Speaker 6: four years. But yeah, it's I think, well, it's been
Speaker 6: fully painted and everything in the time it's been in.
Speaker 6: But I think it's a bit of a floor and
Speaker 6: the sign perhaps, Yeah, sure, it just gets under those
Speaker 6: those external external corners. There's no flashings or things on
Speaker 6: the corners.
Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, And how extensive is the rotted part,
Speaker 5: the part that's gone soft your.
Speaker 6: Fist or yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 6: smaller than my head. Actually, there's two parts to one
Speaker 6: is on the back corner. Yes, it had it had
Speaker 6: it had no down pipe on it, so it's off
Speaker 6: the ground there and that's right. It out pretty bad.
Speaker 6: But on the other corners, it's just a little bit
Speaker 6: in some of the other corners, okay.
Speaker 5: I mean sometimes the challenge with fetching out some rot
Speaker 5: and filling it with a product something you mix up
Speaker 5: right and mad in there is whether or not there's
Speaker 5: enough solid material for that to hold on to. Right,
Speaker 5: So as long as it's well supported and there's a
Speaker 5: small area of decay, but it's surrounded by an area
Speaker 5: that you're whatever bonding agent you're going to use or
Speaker 5: whatever filling agent you're going to use, can actually stick
Speaker 5: to something, then that's a good approach to take. Sometimes
Speaker 5: you might find that exactly what I well, in a sense,
Speaker 5: what I had there a little while ago. So I
Speaker 5: was picking out a little bit of rot on a
Speaker 5: veranda post right by the time I picked it out,
Speaker 5: my putty knife had gone from one side to the other.
Speaker 5: I went right through it, and I thought, well, I
Speaker 5: can cut the post off and put in a piece
Speaker 5: and make a join that will be strong and all
Speaker 5: the rest of it, or I'll just pull the whole
Speaker 5: post out, which is what I ended up doing. So
Speaker 5: I pulled the post out, got another one, copied all
Speaker 5: the detail, put the new one in. So I just
Speaker 5: wonder whether, if it's like a box corner, for all
Speaker 5: of the time and effort that you might spend fetching
Speaker 5: out a little piece of rot and filling it and
Speaker 5: so on and so forth, could you look at or
Speaker 5: maybe get some advice on it. You know, pull the
Speaker 5: box corner off, buy some new timber, replace that, and
Speaker 5: chances are the timber that you're going to replace it
Speaker 5: with will have a higher treatment level than what they
Speaker 5: might have used, So you might want to use H
Speaker 5: three point two. But let's say there's just a small
Speaker 5: area of ro that you want to fix out. You
Speaker 5: can cut out or just scrape out any loose material.
Speaker 5: There are some timber preservatives like metal X for example,
Speaker 5: that will help prevent further rot to that area. There's
Speaker 5: also a product that I picked up the other day
Speaker 5: called basically wood hardener, right, which you just flood the
Speaker 5: area with this product and you don't let it dry.
Speaker 5: You keep applying it until it gets like a gloss
Speaker 5: on it, and then once it's saturated, you let it
Speaker 5: dry and it literally hardens up all of that slightly
Speaker 5: soft fibrous material around the edge of the rotten area.
Speaker 5: And then my go to in terms of those sorts
Speaker 5: of repairs is a product called repair Care, which is
Speaker 5: a two part compound. They both come in a tube,
Speaker 5: so like a corking tube, you mix them together. If
Speaker 5: you're doing a lot of it, you can buy a
Speaker 5: special corking gun that's got two pistons in it so
Speaker 5: you can discharge it at the same time. Otherwise, I've
Speaker 5: kind of just figured out the proportions and extruded them out,
Speaker 5: mixed this together and it's it's has some adhesive qualities
Speaker 5: to it, but also once it hardens, you can sand
Speaker 5: it and paint it. So that's Repair Care and you
Speaker 5: get that from the Razine shops.
Speaker 6: That's fantastic. Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: So there's a little bit.
Speaker 5: Of stuff in there, but you know, if you're going
Speaker 5: to open up that area, do make sure you add
Speaker 5: a timber preservative, just to stop any rot that might
Speaker 5: still be there from extending. Okay, all the best, take care.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's not unfair to say you would
Speaker 5: expect the exterior cladding to last longer than four years,
Speaker 5: even if it is getting saturated with stormwater coming off
Speaker 5: the roof that doesn't have a downpipe. But I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm still grizzling at the fact that I'm replacing decking
Speaker 5: boards that are twenty years old because it was LSOP
Speaker 5: treated timber and it just hasn't lasted. There's a slight
Speaker 5: irony at the fact that the deck that I built
Speaker 5: at the back of the house twenty something years ago,
Speaker 5: the boards have started to rot. When I step out
Speaker 5: the front of the house onto the calorie boards that
Speaker 5: were put down in nineteen oh five, the majority of those,
Speaker 5: probably ninety percent of those, are actually still in really
Speaker 5: good condition and untreated. Of course, it is sixteen minutes
Speaker 5: after six oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 5: the number to call. You can text through as well
Speaker 5: if you've got a comment or a question. That's nine
Speaker 5: two nine two is ZBZB please text through your painting
Speaker 5: questions for Jay, our painting expert, and we'll be back
Speaker 5: to talk to Trevor straight after the break.
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting was ceiling, fixing with feds, or wondering
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter Wolfgavicle,
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Speaker 5: This is an interesting text that's just come through and
Speaker 5: I'll dig into it. But hey, Peter w thank you
Speaker 5: very much. Is there an available database of renovation projects?
Speaker 5: Looking to use it to estimate a reno project cost
Speaker 5: and duration? To the best of my knowledge, there isn't
Speaker 5: one guy that does provide a truckload of data around
Speaker 5: construction and so on. He's been interviewed, I think on
Speaker 5: this station a couple of times. Mike Blackburn out of
Speaker 5: christ Church does analysis of particularly building consents and that
Speaker 5: sort of thing. Whether or not he's got data around that,
Speaker 5: but check him out online. He's very very active online
Speaker 5: with a lot of really really good information. So Mike
Speaker 5: Blackburn out of christ Church might have something, but that's
Speaker 5: a I'll bear that in mind. I don't know if
Speaker 5: there is something like that. Trevor, very good morning to you.
Speaker 7: Yes, good morning, Peace, from gislon good morning. Thank you
Speaker 7: for your excellent program. Mate, you're revelating to all other
Speaker 7: people who haven't got too much knowledge about building.
Speaker 5: Mate.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my problem is that when we bought our house
Speaker 7: in September twenty and twelve, we were unaware that the
Speaker 7: house was fitted out with this quest Ducks poly beautiy
Speaker 7: in pipe providing water to various parts of the house. Well,
Speaker 7: since then we've had five failings of the pipe, which
Speaker 7: is meant you've had to call in a plumber to
Speaker 7: come and replace the pipe. And talking to the Laiser
Speaker 7: plumbing boys, they tell me that there's hundreds and thousands
Speaker 7: of people have been affected by the failure of this pipe.
Speaker 7: And you know we're pensioners, part up pensioners having to
Speaker 7: fork out money each time the pipe fails. It's caused
Speaker 7: softening up the brawboards around the hot water cylinder where
Speaker 7: it do birth. And just recently another pipe burst underneath
Speaker 7: the spare bedroom and we've got writing billboards. And also
Speaker 7: the last plumber reported black mold and he said that's up.
Speaker 7: It's pretty toxic and get onto it and get to
Speaker 7: get rid of it if you can. But you know,
Speaker 7: I'm a seventy five year old pension and I'm not
Speaker 7: calling underneath the house or have that ability as well,
Speaker 7: you know, and we've had news from a couple in
Speaker 7: Hawk's Bad that the actual these pipes are in the
Speaker 7: walls of the house and the total replacement was eighty
Speaker 7: thousand dollars. Now, when you do a Google search, they
Speaker 7: reckon between three thousand and seven thousand dollars to work.
Speaker 7: In the situation, I think it's worthwhile claiming to our
Speaker 7: insurance company about this.
Speaker 5: Well, that was going to be my next question. Actually,
Speaker 5: what's been the response from your insurer? Because typically insurers
Speaker 5: will pay out on this, but because it is a
Speaker 5: well and I'm basing this off sort of firsthand experience
Speaker 5: in the sense that I know someone who has that
Speaker 5: system inside their house, the first couple of claims were like,
Speaker 5: oh gosh, I wonder what happened here, and then a
Speaker 5: growing awareness that it was essentially a systemic failure to
Speaker 5: use that well known phrase around the Ducks quest or
Speaker 5: the quix Ducks system. So the approach from that particular
Speaker 5: insurer was, you know, will will pay out one more time,
Speaker 5: but thereafter we're not going to pay out because it's
Speaker 5: just a maintenance issue. Now you know that you've got
Speaker 5: something that's not working, We're not going to keep paying
Speaker 5: you out every time an elbow bursts. The solution for
Speaker 5: them was to work with their plumber and builder to
Speaker 5: find a way of re routing or replacing pipework in
Speaker 5: the most cost effective way that they could. But the
Speaker 5: ultimately the only solution is to replace it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we've got a five hundred dollars access on
Speaker 7: our building insurance anyway, so more than five hundred dollars to.
Speaker 5: It probably will. But there's a couple of things that
Speaker 5: might make it a little bit more affordable. So for example,
Speaker 5: if there's an accessible roof space like trusses that you
Speaker 5: can get around in. If for example, there's an underfloor
Speaker 5: crawl space so that you know, plumbers can come along,
Speaker 5: get access to the underside of the house, get access
Speaker 5: to the attic, and in some cases, yet where it
Speaker 5: gets disruptive is, for example, I had my plumber around
Speaker 5: on Friday to a job and we place to basin tap.
Speaker 5: Now I know that the pipes come up from underneath
Speaker 5: the floor into the wall to a wing back behind
Speaker 5: the cabinet, and so if there was a fault with that. Essentially,
Speaker 5: i'd need to take the vanity off the wall, maybe
Speaker 5: cut through the tiles a bit, take the wing back off,
Speaker 5: pull the pipe down, slide a new one up, make
Speaker 5: the crimp onto the wing back. So you know, it's
Speaker 5: the cutting through plaster board, opening up walls, patching that
Speaker 5: that makes it a more expensive project. I don't know
Speaker 5: that on a relatively straightforward house, I can't see it
Speaker 5: being a fifty or sixty thousand dollar job. So I
Speaker 5: guess if you can make a claim to your insurer,
Speaker 5: be really honest with them, and then take that money
Speaker 5: and go right, I'm going to use that to part
Speaker 5: fund the work, and then working with a couple of
Speaker 5: smart plumbers and chippy's, you might be able to find
Speaker 5: that you can get the bulk of the work done
Speaker 5: for what your insurance pay out. That's probably your best
Speaker 5: case scenario.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well our house is are lockwood, so we don't
Speaker 7: have any cavity.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, all right. That does make it more challenging.
Speaker 7: But a good calling space for a midget plumber.
Speaker 5: Yeah, young foot, energetic, young plumber. They'll be in there
Speaker 5: like a raight up a drain pipe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just out of school mate.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, you don't want someone who's distracted by
Speaker 5: scrolling Instagram on their phone. You want someone who's in
Speaker 5: there and just going for it. But look, I think Trevor,
Speaker 5: unfortunately the best solution going forward is to do a
Speaker 5: replacement because in the end, you know, the bit that
Speaker 5: doesn't break will break later on. That's the really, really
Speaker 5: frustrating thing about it, right, Good luck with that, mate,
Speaker 5: all the best and thanks for calling. Oh eight hundred
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Twenty
Speaker 5: six minutes after six Ellison, good morning.
Speaker 8: Good morning pig. I've got a nineteen forty nine house
Speaker 8: and the south side timber is rotting and I'm getting
Speaker 8: it replaced in the next year twelve months time, when
Speaker 8: I've got the money. What I'm ringing about is I
Speaker 8: have to get scaffolding for the people to climb up.
Speaker 8: Who supplies to safety get? And where do I get that?
Speaker 8: If buy have to supply it?
Speaker 5: Sure? Roughly where are you in the country.
Speaker 8: Nine to nine?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: Oh well, look there'll be lots of scaffolders working out
Speaker 5: of either Wellington or in the hut. I was in
Speaker 5: the hut the other day. I'm sure there were scaffolders there.
Speaker 5: So it depends a little bit on in some ways.
Speaker 5: It's actually well, I know, you as the householder might
Speaker 5: want to provide scaffolding for the contractors, but really the
Speaker 5: contractors could include the price of the scaffolding in their
Speaker 5: work right, and so most contractors we might have a
Speaker 5: couple of mobile towers for example, you know the aluminium
Speaker 5: towers that knock down. Almost all builders that I know
Speaker 5: have got their own set of you know, relatively small
Speaker 5: tower that means you can get up and do maintenance
Speaker 5: work to a certain height. Now, if, for example, you
Speaker 5: need to scaffold an entire elevation because it's weather boards
Speaker 5: and you want to get from one end to a board,
Speaker 5: then typically you'll just go out and get pricing from
Speaker 5: a scaffolder for that work. Prices do vary quite a lot.
Speaker 5: One of the things I've noticed recently is over the years,
Speaker 5: typically if you booked scaffolding, there would be an upfront
Speaker 5: cost that would be for them to arrive, assemble all
Speaker 5: of the scaffolding, ticket it and get it ready, and
Speaker 5: then typically you would have one month's rent included in
Speaker 5: that right, and thereafter you pay on a weekly basis
Speaker 5: for the rent. I've noticed that that one month is
Speaker 5: shortened to one week, so just beware of that too.
Speaker 5: And it's really important that you say to your contractor
Speaker 5: when they're coming to do the work. If I'm going
Speaker 5: to put the scaffolding up, for example, on the first
Speaker 5: of May, I want you there on the first of May.
Speaker 5: I don't want you turning up ten days later, because
Speaker 5: that's that's going to cost you in the long run.
Speaker 5: So I think if it's I would talk to your
Speaker 5: contractor first and go can you provide your own scaffolding,
Speaker 5: which is not uncommon otherwise it is work done by
Speaker 5: qualified people. And they'll come, they'll set it up, they'll
Speaker 5: make sure that there's safe access onto the platform, so
Speaker 5: whether that's a ladder or a platform or set of stairs,
Speaker 5: it doesn't sound like it needs to be that extensive.
Speaker 5: And then they'll come and take it away at the
Speaker 5: end as well.
Speaker 8: And what about safety gear for them to wear them
Speaker 8: when they're up.
Speaker 5: No, I don't believe that you should be supplying any
Speaker 5: safety gear to your contractors. That's their responsibility or that's
Speaker 5: that's the attitude that I would take. And also if
Speaker 5: they're on the scaffold. They don't need to be harnessed
Speaker 5: or anything like that if they're on the scaffold.
Speaker 8: And the scaffolding guy could tell me on this, Oh absolutely.
Speaker 5: But you know, ideally with this sort of thing, you know,
Speaker 5: chances are when you get your builder or your contractor
Speaker 5: to do the work, they will already have contacts and
Speaker 5: relationships with scaffolding contractors. They should be able to help
Speaker 5: you out.
Speaker 8: I just thought i'd give you a corner and good,
Speaker 8: But somebody was up on a roof somewhere and they
Speaker 8: fell off and their love stars not too pretty. Now.
Speaker 5: No, it's look, I've got one project that I'm supervising
Speaker 5: at the moment where the guys will need to be
Speaker 5: on a roof. It's only first floor. And I had
Speaker 5: the guys from Orange Scaffold and on Friday doing edge
Speaker 5: protection all the way around, because I want them to
Speaker 5: be able to work safely, that's the most important thing,
Speaker 5: but also efficiently and not be thinking about, gosh, what
Speaker 5: happens if I slip or whatever, especially at this time
Speaker 5: of year, so edge protection is really important. But it
Speaker 5: sounds like most of the work that you need done
Speaker 5: will be off a scaffold, not necessarily off the roof
Speaker 5: on good luck Ellison sounds thank you very much for
Speaker 5: all of very best to you. You take care, take care.
Speaker 5: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call Judy.
Speaker 5: Good morning to.
Speaker 9: You, Oh, good morning, thanks for calling back. I'm going
Speaker 9: to have my roof sprayed for mold and moss yep.
Speaker 9: And do you have to have scaffolding around the house
Speaker 9: for them to do that?
Speaker 5: Not necessarily? And again, like as a homeowner, I guess
Speaker 5: you've got a duty of care to make sure that
Speaker 5: people are safe. But ultimately the contractors themselves, they should
Speaker 5: actually be saying to you, this is how we're going
Speaker 5: to do the job safely. So a lot of contractors
Speaker 5: who will do like roof spraying and treatment and that
Speaker 5: sort of thing, they will wear a harness, they'll have
Speaker 5: an anchor point, they'll have a system, they'll have a
Speaker 5: methodology for going This is how we secure our ropes.
Speaker 5: This is this is the training that we've given to
Speaker 5: our contractors in order for them to act and be
Speaker 5: safe on the roof. And because they're moving around a lot,
Speaker 5: often they will just go ahead and do that with
Speaker 5: a harness for example, and that's completely up to them. Certainly,
Speaker 5: whatever anyone does on the roof, they do need to
Speaker 5: prove that what they're doing is safe right now, whether
Speaker 5: that's edge protection or a harness, that's up to them
Speaker 5: to sort out.
Speaker 9: Well, it seems they've been in the business for since
Speaker 9: nineteen fifty nine and they say there's only one year's guarantee.
Speaker 5: On the seilant right, So is it a concrete tolerance
Speaker 5: for me?
Speaker 9: They're spraying to get rid of the like it a
Speaker 9: moss growing all overrom one side of the house. The
Speaker 9: others are right because one side never gets the sun
Speaker 9: because there's trees about four meters right, and I'm really
Speaker 9: below that as well. So you wouldn't need to be
Speaker 9: paying five hundred dollars every year to get it done.
Speaker 5: Again, No, I mean typically it's up to you, of course,
Speaker 5: but I know that typically if you're going to do that.
Speaker 5: So it's a concrete tile roof, isn't it. No, it's
Speaker 5: just just a metal roof, okay. And what are you seeing?
Speaker 5: Are you seeing like and growing on top of the roof?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, yeah, definitely on one side they say that
Speaker 9: they use a bron mentally ye, that it's.
Speaker 5: Okay. So they're going to come along, they're going to
Speaker 5: treat it. Are they then going to actively remove it?
Speaker 5: Like is it a two step process or is it
Speaker 5: a one step process? They apply something and then.
Speaker 9: Well, we didn't actually explain it. He just said, you know,
Speaker 9: they were just going to spray it and that would
Speaker 9: take a while for you to see it dying.
Speaker 5: Sure, that's that's to be expected.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and five hundred dollars. That's a reasonable price.
Speaker 5: Yes, I think so. Sorry in my notes, it's is
Speaker 5: that it's five thousand dollars, but it's not as that
Speaker 5: it's five hundred dollars for them to co and treat
Speaker 5: the roof.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and look like, sorry, I don't have to be there.
Speaker 5: They said, no, that's fair enough. Look, I tell you what,
Speaker 5: And I think this is good advice, hopefully for anyone,
Speaker 5: you know, working with someone that they're not familiar with.
Speaker 5: Let's say, is to ask them for a telephone number
Speaker 5: of someone who has had the work done recently, so
Speaker 5: it might be someone like yourself that they did a
Speaker 5: job for three weeks ago, and say, look, could you
Speaker 5: give me a number of someone that is happy to
Speaker 5: talk to me about your work? And then you wring
Speaker 5: them and you go, Hi, it's you know, duty here,
Speaker 5: and I've got this company coming to do the work.
Speaker 5: They did your job a little while ago. Were you
Speaker 5: happy with it?
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah I would do that. But otherwise, and look, it
Speaker 5: is actually important to do it because that like and
Speaker 5: growth will actually start to degrade the coating on the
Speaker 5: iron roof, on the color steel roof or whatever.
Speaker 9: But they have given me explain that, Okay, it's worth doing.
Speaker 11: Yeah, oh I know that.
Speaker 9: Well, thanks for your leisure.
Speaker 5: Nice to talk to you all the best. And I
Speaker 5: don't I guess as consumers, As customers, we shouldn't be
Speaker 5: shy about saying, hey, can I talk to someone who
Speaker 5: you did a job for recently? And you know, if
Speaker 5: a contract is reluctant to hand out a number or
Speaker 5: something like that, it might take them a day or so.
Speaker 5: Maybe they'll ring someone and say, look, do you mind
Speaker 5: if in this case, Judy gives you a call to
Speaker 5: talk about the roof treatment. They might want to give
Speaker 5: the get their permission first, or they might either way.
Speaker 5: I think that if you're working with a contractor and
Speaker 5: they're reluctant to let you talk to someone who they've
Speaker 5: worked for previously. Then that's probably a little bit of
Speaker 5: a red flag around how the job's going to go
Speaker 5: at your place as well. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number we need to take a break.
Speaker 5: Should we do that? Let's do that, Paul, we'll talk
Speaker 5: to you straight after the break.
Speaker 2: A squeaky door or it's squeakie floor.
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcap, the resident builder
Speaker 1: on Newstalk SEB.
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking back to last week where I got
Speaker 5: on my hobby horse and I rode it into the
Speaker 5: sunset about that article about that was on the front
Speaker 5: page of the Herald around council telling villa owner that
Speaker 5: they needed to remove double glazing because it didn't comply
Speaker 5: with heritage standards and that's a breach of resource consent ETCA,
Speaker 5: except or they needed to get a retrospective resource consent
Speaker 5: for the work that they'd done. Now, frankly, it was misleading.
Speaker 5: We've been through that in the sense that council don't
Speaker 5: have an issue with double glazing. They have an issue
Speaker 5: with unsympathetic aluminium joinery being installed into heritage into a
Speaker 5: heritage building. Right, So the issue is not the double glazing,
Speaker 5: very clear about that. It's not the double glaze. It
Speaker 5: is absolutely about the way in which they went about
Speaker 5: installing the double glazing and the frames that they went
Speaker 5: into anyway, and then I was thinking, shivers, I've done this.
Speaker 5: So I did a renovation a couple of years ago,
Speaker 5: and we've put it together and put a feature up
Speaker 5: on YouTube. So if you want to see what working
Speaker 5: on double hung sash windows looks like in terms of
Speaker 5: upgrading the glazing, repairing them, making sure they function again
Speaker 5: for another hundred years, check out if you just go
Speaker 5: to YouTube and go resident builder and then host project,
Speaker 5: which is Huis, and search for one that says Heritage
Speaker 5: meets hard Work, roof challenges and window upgrades. There's a
Speaker 5: whole series of little videos about the renovation. There's all
Speaker 5: sorts of videos there about installation and compliance and that
Speaker 5: sort of thing. So there's a whole library that we're
Speaker 5: putting together for you on YouTube. So search for resident builder,
Speaker 5: find that there and then have a look through the video.
Speaker 5: The one that's got me working on some double hung
Speaker 5: sash windows is called Heritage meets hard Work, and it's
Speaker 5: all the things that you need to do to get
Speaker 5: your heritage house up to stand it. So hopefully there's
Speaker 5: a little bit of insight into the fact that you
Speaker 5: can actually quite successfully repair and maintain and keep your
Speaker 5: classic timber joinery, as well as upg grading the the
Speaker 5: glazing as well. Right he six forty one here at Newstalk,
Speaker 5: said be paul A very good morning.
Speaker 12: Oh, good morning, Peter. We'd redecorate in the house and
Speaker 12: I bought an oak bed and inside as a temporary table.
Speaker 12: It's been a bit weathered and I had a jar
Speaker 12: of picks a peanut but steed and grain mix. It
Speaker 12: tipped over and all oil went on the wood. It
Speaker 12: made an awesome stain. It's been there for a while. Also,
Speaker 12: years ago they started making plastic posts at Rammed and
Speaker 12: better than they must have had little steel tips on
Speaker 12: the end of them and are strong. And the thing
Speaker 12: I just wondering, when are they going to make plastic girders,
Speaker 12: even if they had a rod in the middle of
Speaker 12: them or something like that.
Speaker 5: I know, the plastic posts that you're talking about. If
Speaker 5: it's the same thing, that's future post, which is a
Speaker 5: really good end use for lots of types of soft
Speaker 5: plastics can be recycled and made into those. I don't
Speaker 5: believe they've got any sort of qualification, let's say, or
Speaker 5: they don't comply in terms of the building code for
Speaker 5: subfloor piles. But where they are fantastic, and i've seen
Speaker 5: them down at field days for example, is you know
Speaker 5: strain a posts than that. I think their intention was
Speaker 5: that it would be a really good substitute for timber
Speaker 5: posts in farming and agriculture. So certainly in terms of farming,
Speaker 5: certainly in terms of on venue and that sort of thing,
Speaker 5: it's great. And I've noticed that they've started to do
Speaker 5: some retaining timbers as well, so heavier ones that you
Speaker 5: could use for raised gardens and so on. So look,
Speaker 5: it's a good option. Hello, I don't know that they've
Speaker 5: tested them for the load bearing. That's in terms of
Speaker 5: getting them compliant with the building code. I think there's
Speaker 5: enough uses for them outside of that that will stick
Speaker 5: to what we know and trust in terms of building.
Speaker 5: But I mean, look, they're phenomenally strong. I've seen them,
Speaker 5: and I've seen some of the stress testing on it.
Speaker 5: They are phenomenal. But you know, it's just not there
Speaker 5: in the building code at the moment. But really interesting
Speaker 5: issue to raise. Actually, field days is craky. When's that?
Speaker 6: I think?
Speaker 5: I'm down there on the thirteenth of June. Starts on
Speaker 5: the twelfth. I'm going to shoot down for the day.
Speaker 5: Heaps to see lots of people to talk to. I've
Speaker 5: only been going for the last couple of years, but
Speaker 5: I really really enjoy it when i'm down there. Had
Speaker 5: a fantastic day on Friday too, wandering through the Stark
Speaker 5: factory looking at how you PVC windows are made. It
Speaker 5: was really fantay. I'll tell you a bit more about
Speaker 5: later on. Oh eight hundred eighteen eighty is the number
Speaker 5: to call. Hey, Harry, good morning to you. Good morning, Harry.
Speaker 13: How are you.
Speaker 5: I'm very well, thanks, sir Bitter.
Speaker 13: I've got a Brivy central heating system in my house.
Speaker 13: It is a twenty kilover high efficiency MULTIPLEX series. Yeah,
Speaker 13: built in two thousand and six, nineteen years ago, and
Speaker 13: every two years they have to service the thing. Yes,
Speaker 13: So when they did it this time, the man said
Speaker 13: that now you have to replace the Fenness, right, that
Speaker 13: is what's available. So I said, you know that's only
Speaker 13: nineteen years old. Oh, they said, we have to replace
Speaker 13: it and to make the meta worse. He said that
Speaker 13: where you got the ceiling entry point, we can't do
Speaker 13: it from there. You have to hear to have a
Speaker 13: new entry point made near the where the fairness is. Right,
Speaker 13: So does the fairness only last nineteen years?
Speaker 5: From my own experience, I'm not particularly familiar with them.
Speaker 5: I think that you know, for something that I guess
Speaker 5: when it's on, like over winter, gets a lot of use,
Speaker 5: then yes, I can imagine that maybe it has reached
Speaker 5: the end of its serviceable life. The challenge, too, is
Speaker 5: that it might be serviceable if you could get parts,
Speaker 5: but not all manufacturers provide parts beyond a certain time,
Speaker 5: which you know is an issue, right, And I think
Speaker 5: there is talk about some government legislation that will mean
Speaker 5: that if you're going to bring a product into the country,
Speaker 5: you're going to have to provide service for it's It
Speaker 5: shouldn't be acceptable. This is just a general thing, not
Speaker 5: necessarily related to what you're talking about. But you know,
Speaker 5: the frustration is, Let's say you buy a toaster, for example,
Speaker 5: and after two years the spring goes in it, and
Speaker 5: you ring the importer and you say, can I have
Speaker 5: a new spring? And they go no, we don't sell
Speaker 5: parts for that, and so the whole thing's rubbish and
Speaker 5: you've been it after a short period of time. Whether
Speaker 5: or not that applies to something that's twenty years old,
Speaker 5: The only thing I could suggest, Harry, is that I'm
Speaker 5: sure there are more than one provider of servicing for
Speaker 5: these units, right, And I would go to another supplier
Speaker 5: or another service provider and say could you please come
Speaker 5: and assess it, and they might say to you, actually,
Speaker 5: you know, we've got some parts for that, and we'll
Speaker 5: keep it going for the next five years. So I
Speaker 5: think my advice would be try and find another contractor
Speaker 5: who could come and have a look at it. You
Speaker 5: may well find that you get a slightly different response
Speaker 5: from them, but otherwise, yes, these things do wear out.
Speaker 5: Ventilation systems, heating systems have an end of life. Be
Speaker 5: nice more than twenty years. But it may well be
Speaker 5: that twenty years is reasonable. But get two people to
Speaker 5: give you advice on that would be my advice. Oh,
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 5: Thanks for you call Harry. We'll talk to Grant after
Speaker 5: the break.
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident
Speaker 1: builder with Peter WOLFCAF call Oh eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 1: eighty Youth Talk ZB.
Speaker 5: Must be my tune. OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty
Speaker 5: is the number to call. Remember we've got Jay from Razine,
Speaker 5: our painting expert, available to take your text questions at
Speaker 5: around seven twenty five this morning. So any specific painting
Speaker 5: questions might be about paint as in the actual paint,
Speaker 5: the right type of paint to use in the right situation, application, preparation,
Speaker 5: those sorts of things. So fleck through those texts to
Speaker 5: nine to nine two. Jay from Razine will be with
Speaker 5: us at seven twenty five and a very good warning
Speaker 5: to you, Grant. How are you doing?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Good, thanks Peter. I've got a one challenge. I've just
Speaker 15: built two brand new townhouses Dupilus Monoclis plaster down the bottom.
Speaker 15: The top floor is new or aluminium platting, and the
Speaker 15: platting is a gray for ice are quite dark. When
Speaker 15: you're outside the townhouses, you hear a constant cracking, which
Speaker 15: I guess is expansion contraction in the sunlight or not
Speaker 15: even sunlight, just in the in the day and inside
Speaker 15: it sounds like you've got fire where it's going off
Speaker 15: outside in terms of the noise, and when I talk
Speaker 15: to my architect who's they specify the product and try
Speaker 15: to chase up with the manufacturer, there's no engagement on this.
Speaker 15: And is it a implementation challenge I've got or is
Speaker 15: this a consequence of the product that's been specified.
Speaker 5: All metal expands and contracts, right, whether it's aluminum or
Speaker 5: zincaloom or whatever, And so certainly I've heard it where
Speaker 5: roofs will expand and contract and as they do, so
Speaker 5: you you'll hear a noise. I've had it on metal
Speaker 5: cladding as a not aluminium, but metal cladding on the
Speaker 5: exterior of a building, and I think from my experience
Speaker 5: pretty much all of the cladding manufacturers who do various
Speaker 5: types of this type of cladding will say you can
Speaker 5: expect that there will be expansion and contraction and sometimes
Speaker 5: that generates a noise. So it's not uncommon. And I
Speaker 5: guess if it's a darker color and it's facing north
Speaker 5: and it's a particularly long hot summer, then I think
Speaker 5: you'll you'll that will be more noticeable. There's also ways
Speaker 5: of ensuring that you like. For example, it's really important
Speaker 5: with the installation of some of these systems, and each
Speaker 5: system is different, right, so I can only make broad comments,
Speaker 5: but I know for some systems they work on the
Speaker 5: basis that the actual cladding, the bit that you see
Speaker 5: is while it's fixed, it's not fastened, so there is
Speaker 5: room for to move. Other systems where they're they're direct
Speaker 5: fixed in you'll have tension and compression because they're fixed
Speaker 5: at either end, and you'll have some movement in between there,
Speaker 5: and that can generate some noise. These So it was
Speaker 5: specified by the architect you've had it installed. Was it
Speaker 5: installed by the contractor provided by the supplier of the
Speaker 5: product or was it a separate contractor who did it.
Speaker 15: A separate contractor did it licensed building practitioner?
Speaker 5: Okay? Do you know whether they did it in accordance
Speaker 5: with the specifications from the product supplier.
Speaker 15: The contract required them to do so, and they receive
Speaker 15: the specifications from the architect.
Speaker 5: But did they do it?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's that's going to be your first thing to
Speaker 5: look at, right. So, and this is again this is
Speaker 5: a general comments. As contractors, we might get specifications for
Speaker 5: all sorts of products and and like you know, doing
Speaker 5: your earfix model as a kid, you don't always read
Speaker 5: the instructions to be blunt. So I would go back
Speaker 5: in the first instance to the person that installed it
Speaker 5: and say, did you install it exactly as per the
Speaker 5: instructions and as per the specifications, And then if they're
Speaker 5: saying that it is, then maybe you have someone come
Speaker 5: and independently check that in fact they have done the
Speaker 5: installation correctly, because again, and I'm not suggesting it's the
Speaker 5: case in your specific instance, but I do know of
Speaker 5: situations where a contractor has not followed the instructions, has
Speaker 5: installed the product, has installed it on the wrong type
Speaker 5: of bat and use the wrong type of fixing those
Speaker 5: sorts of things, and it's been effectively non compliant as
Speaker 5: a result. So a little bit of detective work, I'm
Speaker 5: afraid on your part and check that first, maybe get
Speaker 5: someone else who's experience with the system to come out
Speaker 5: and have a look and determine whether there's any initial faults.
Speaker 5: And then, as per the article that was in the
Speaker 5: paper yesterday, I think the comment from the supplier there was,
Speaker 5: you know, we we do know that it does expand
Speaker 5: and contract and that causes noise. Most of that noise
Speaker 5: is within a certain tolerance level. Right, So if you
Speaker 5: feel it's outside of that tolerance level, then you'd go
Speaker 5: back to the installer and to the manufacturer and go, hey,
Speaker 5: let's come out, let's do some testing and see what
Speaker 5: is causing the issues. Okay, yeah, good approach, Thank you,
Speaker 5: good luck, all right, all the best. But first stoppers
Speaker 5: is to go back and talk to the guy that
Speaker 5: installed it and go how'd you do it? And did
Speaker 5: you do it correctly?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 5: All right, all the best, Thanks a lot, take care.
Speaker 5: And I say this because you know, increasingly, lots of
Speaker 5: systems that we use in construction are you know, they've
Speaker 5: been specifically designed to perform in a particular way when
Speaker 5: you build it as per the specification. So you know,
Speaker 5: if the boffins that have developed cladding system or a
Speaker 5: bracing system or whatever type of system that we might
Speaker 5: have in terms of house building, there'll be you know,
Speaker 5: specific fastness, specific types of brackets, specific distances, all of
Speaker 5: these things. All of these tolerances are developed during the
Speaker 5: product development and then that's included in the specifications and
Speaker 5: the installation guides, and the expectation is that then when
Speaker 5: it gets to site, that it's done as per the
Speaker 5: specifications and to be fair. It's not uncommon to find
Speaker 5: that products have been installed not as per the specification,
Speaker 5: and it's no surprises then that we might have issues
Speaker 5: with it. Right, We'll continue talking all things building and
Speaker 5: construction after the news at seven o'clock. If you'd like
Speaker 5: to join us pon us now, oh eight hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty, feel free to send your texts to
Speaker 5: nine two niney two and remember Jay our painting expert.
Speaker 5: At around seven twenty five.
Speaker 16: I want to be nowhere, but here with it now,
Speaker 16: Liby one in this speech.
Speaker 1: Measure twice God was but maybe called Pete first, Peter
Speaker 1: Wolfkev the resident builder news talks.
Speaker 5: That'd be your news talks. That'd be welcome back to
Speaker 5: the show. It is almost seven minutes after seven. Remember
Speaker 5: around seven twenty five this morning, Jay our painting expert
Speaker 5: from Razine will be joining us. So if you've got
Speaker 5: any specific painting questions, feel free to text those through.
Speaker 5: Thank you too to a number of people that text
Speaker 5: through with actually really simple and useful solutions. For one
Speaker 5: of our earlier callers, that was Trevor, he was talking
Speaker 5: about the fact that they've actually it turns out they're
Speaker 5: in a Lockwood Home, so you know circa sometime late
Speaker 5: nineteen seventies early or eighties roughly, and it has a
Speaker 5: plumbing as in a piping system called Duck's Quest. It's
Speaker 5: well known for failures, and I think it's not un
Speaker 5: to say that almost everyone who has had it installed
Speaker 5: or it was in their house as part of the
Speaker 5: new build or innovation, has had problems with it. So
Speaker 5: a couple of people have suggested, well, here's a good one.
Speaker 5: Lockwood's packed the wall out fifty mili overlay with matching
Speaker 5: timberge and then just move the bath. Done it a
Speaker 5: couple of times. It's easy enough. I thought that was
Speaker 5: very good. Someone asking did the previous owner know about that? Well,
Speaker 5: I think he's owned the house for a number of
Speaker 5: years twenty twelve. I mean, look, any liability would be
Speaker 5: long past, and I think too the disclosure duty to
Speaker 5: disclose was probably quite different in twenty twelve than it
Speaker 5: might be today in terms of real estate. Thanks for
Speaker 5: the advice Rey the Ducks or Quest Ducks pipe failure.
Speaker 5: Our plumber said that if we ever wanted to sell
Speaker 5: our house, we'd have to inform the buyer that the
Speaker 5: house still has some of that ducks in it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I tend to agree. It'll be that sort of thing
Speaker 5: that if the real estate agent sits down with you
Speaker 5: when they do their sale and purchase agreement or when
Speaker 5: they you've got a contract with them, they will say
Speaker 5: to you, is there anything about the house that you
Speaker 5: need to disclose? And if you are aware and you
Speaker 5: choose not to disclose it, then you could be held
Speaker 5: liable for that. I understand later on. So yeah, if
Speaker 5: you know it's a problem, then you have to disclose
Speaker 5: the fact that it's it is a problem. Or if
Speaker 5: it was a problem and you've fixed it, then that's great.
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty eighty is that number to call?
Speaker 5: Don A very good morning to you.
Speaker 16: Yes, good morning to you, Peter. I was on your
Speaker 16: show a couple of weeks ago talking about our central districts.
Speaker 5: And online and it looked like a fantastic event.
Speaker 16: Yes it did. We got eight hundred people through the
Speaker 16: door wow to the event, and we've got a huge
Speaker 16: crowd watching the main event, which is the wood turning competition,
Speaker 16: and we had eighteen wood turning took part and there
Speaker 16: were three heats and the person that person that won
Speaker 16: in the final turn the bowl out in three and
Speaker 16: a half minutes.
Speaker 5: Three minutes thirty seconds for a bowl that had impressive that.
Speaker 16: It was impressive, and that included you have to take
Speaker 16: them the inside of the bottle and then you go
Speaker 16: turn it over into the upside and so forth. So
Speaker 16: we'll be syvesa. But yeah, no, it was a really
Speaker 16: good event. And we're going to run the game next
Speaker 16: year on the seventeenth and May, which will be twelve months.
Speaker 16: And yeah, it was really very popular and it's surprising
Speaker 16: how many people came in and wanted to have a
Speaker 16: look at it.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 16: It was really the sweet thing. Really. I think that
Speaker 16: brought the people in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, because actually I was going to ask
Speaker 5: in terms of like okay, so you know I could
Speaker 5: bash something out super fast, right, but it'll be rubbish.
Speaker 5: There is there a bit of a it's got to
Speaker 5: be at least half way reasonable in terms of quality.
Speaker 16: Oh yes, in judgment and it you know, right, you
Speaker 16: turn the body out and it's so much for becoming
Speaker 16: off fairs, but of course it's a there's the shape
Speaker 16: of the ball comes into consideration by the judge and
Speaker 16: also the consistency through the thickness and all that. They
Speaker 16: get points off for all of that, so it's got
Speaker 16: to be a reasonable sort of ball that comes off
Speaker 16: of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And they're all using the same size stock, aren't they.
Speaker 16: Yes, Yeah, yes, yes, they went through with it. I
Speaker 16: think it was seventy five millimeters what by one hundred
Speaker 16: and fifty millimeters and it was and all the blinks
Speaker 16: were the same. It was mecro carp Yeah.
Speaker 5: Nice, nice, look. I think it's a fabulous event. And
Speaker 5: I think too, you kind of get a sense that
Speaker 5: lots of people are looking to return to I guess
Speaker 5: traditional crafts like wood turning. Of wood turning has been
Speaker 5: around for hundreds of years in various forms. And also
Speaker 5: the sheer pleasure of making something. You know that in
Speaker 5: a world where more and more people make things for
Speaker 5: you and things are not made to last and all
Speaker 5: the rest of it, it's it's that that kind of
Speaker 5: inherent pleasure in making, you know, whether it's doing your
Speaker 5: own baking or whether it's pottery, or whether it's wood
Speaker 5: turning or whether it's weaving and that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: There's there is, I think just a general sense that
Speaker 5: people want to uncover those skills again. And yeah, keep
Speaker 5: them alive.
Speaker 16: I guess, and some of the balls were given out
Speaker 16: to the brilliant.
Speaker 5: I've written the date down so if the lines I mean,
Speaker 5: it's the sort of thing I would love to get to.
Speaker 5: I'm not making any promises, but I put the date
Speaker 5: in the calendar already.
Speaker 16: All right then, thank you very much, stay.
Speaker 5: In touch, Thank you all the best. What Don was
Speaker 5: talking about was a competition in the Wairapa, so in Palmerston,
Speaker 5: I think is where it was. No might not have
Speaker 5: been parmised over the weekend wood Turners Guild or festival.
Speaker 5: And the competition was to turn out a bowl. They
Speaker 5: all had exactly the same size piece of macrocarpa and
Speaker 5: it was a speed test and we know that you know,
Speaker 5: crafting things is not about speed, but it's a fantastic
Speaker 5: thing to watch as as very accomplished and experienced wood
Speaker 5: turners all have a go at trying to produce a
Speaker 5: bowl in a limited amount of time three minutes thirty
Speaker 5: seconds is phenomenal. So that would have been great to watch.
Speaker 5: And eight hundred people through the door. That's tremendous community engagement,
Speaker 5: So congratulations to you guys. It is thirteen minutes after seven.
Speaker 5: If you've got a building question. Oh, eight hundred eighty
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number to call. A couple of
Speaker 5: painting questions coming through, which is really really good as well,
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for those. A couple of questions
Speaker 5: about cladding roof treatments. This is an interesting one, hey,
Speaker 5: In reply to the woman who has some concerns about
Speaker 5: the roof treatments, this is someone who operates a business.
Speaker 5: I operate my business in South Waikato. I do all
Speaker 5: of it with an ecosoftwash and the buildings are performing well,
Speaker 5: the roof and the hard With the roof and hard
Speaker 5: surface treatments, I offer a guarantee that it will clear
Speaker 5: the growth, and I photograph all the work so comparison
Speaker 5: can be made at any time. If there are areas
Speaker 5: where it's deemed not to be working, I return it
Speaker 5: no additional charge. Photographic history and years of reputation does
Speaker 5: provide peace of mind. Good on you, Chris. That sounds
Speaker 5: really thorough and really professional. So that's Chris from X
Speaker 5: Factor in Tokoro, South Waikato. So X factor so ex
Speaker 5: mold roof treatments. Good on you, and it is really important.
Speaker 5: And I was reading a condition report for a building
Speaker 5: the other day, and the building surveyor who was commissioned
Speaker 5: to do the report pointed out the fact that there
Speaker 5: was the beginning of some like that was growing on
Speaker 5: the roof and the recommendations removed that before it impacts
Speaker 5: on the coating and potentially shortens the life span of
Speaker 5: the roof. So if it is on your roof, you
Speaker 5: should get it treated and obviously get it treated by
Speaker 5: someone who knows what they're doing. Oh eight hundred eighty
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number to call. We'll take your
Speaker 5: calls right now. We've got a spare line right now.
Speaker 5: It is coming up fifteen minutes after seven.
Speaker 1: Doing other house extorting the guard and asked Fete for
Speaker 1: a hand as a resident builder with Peter Wolfcap Call
Speaker 1: oh eight eighty ten eighty newstalgs EDB.
Speaker 5: Your news talks dB A couple of minutes away from
Speaker 5: our painting expert J from Razine and some really good
Speaker 5: curly questions coming in on the text machine, so feel
Speaker 5: free to send through another question for J. We'll try
Speaker 5: and get through most of those in a moment. Some
Speaker 5: great questions to via the text that I'll come to,
Speaker 5: particularly around insurances or warranties for buildings. So we'll have
Speaker 5: a look at that in a minute. But first up Bernie,
Speaker 5: good morning, Yeah.
Speaker 17: Good morning, pick. Just having a query on I just
Speaker 17: had a kitchen greenow done and basically I had the
Speaker 17: equal put HBO and all the kitchen stuff in and
Speaker 17: the sparking that did the young Fellows been back through
Speaker 17: times to deal with the issues with it just not
Speaker 17: fitting in probably or had me fitting in properly, and
Speaker 17: I'm just wanting to know where do I stand in
Speaker 17: this issue. I'm going to go back to this spark
Speaker 17: you tomorrow. You know, one of the people that are
Speaker 17: based on whoever was put on to me, they have
Speaker 17: a lot to see what I can do with it,
Speaker 17: you know, because it's not not very satisfactory. It's just
Speaker 17: he's where he's tolled the holes in his head and
Speaker 17: put the brackets on the back of the wall, you
Speaker 17: know that, and it just looked ugly. It wasn't even
Speaker 17: you know, for the money I've paid paid the spark
Speaker 17: you to do the job. I don't think you should
Speaker 17: be paid because it's just a shocking workmanship on behalf
Speaker 17: of the worker.
Speaker 5: I think in the first instance, if he's an employee
Speaker 5: of a firm, right, I would get in touch with
Speaker 5: the boss and get the boss out immediately. And then
Speaker 5: if you feel that you're still getting the run around,
Speaker 5: basically I'd be inclined maybe to get a registered electrical
Speaker 5: inspector to come out and determine have a look at
Speaker 5: the work, because electricians are interesting for a number of
Speaker 5: different reasons, but as a trade they self certify, right,
Speaker 5: So if you're building a house or doing a renovation,
Speaker 5: no one other than the electrician and an electrical inspector
Speaker 5: will determine whether or not the work is compliant, right, Yes,
Speaker 5: So it's a little bit different too. Let's say builders,
Speaker 5: for example, and even plumbers where typically will do the
Speaker 5: work and then a building inspector or a plumbing inspector
Speaker 5: will determine and whether or not the work is up
Speaker 5: to standard and sure pass right. So, in that sense,
Speaker 5: there is more responsibility on electricians to do work according
Speaker 5: to their regulations correctly all of the time. So if
Speaker 5: for example, the young fellow who's been on site hasn't
Speaker 5: done a great job, talk to the boss. If the
Speaker 5: boss is unresponsive, I would go to an electrical inspector
Speaker 5: and then they have their own disciplinary process after that.
Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, yeah, because I did. The boss had come
Speaker 17: out and have look at yourself, get it right for
Speaker 17: your Friday. And then he did come out and wasn't
Speaker 17: really happy to do the job, you know, like refix
Speaker 17: it all up and where he put the screw holes
Speaker 17: and they went even even nothing like that, and they
Speaker 17: went the proper screws that they were with the kiss
Speaker 17: ringing over that, and so I unscrewed it like Friday
Speaker 17: night and just said, oh, I'm not putting it up.
Speaker 17: Whether I took photos and I asked him to left
Speaker 17: a note from him to take photos off the start
Speaker 17: job and that, and he wasn't happy to do even that,
Speaker 17: and yeah, he reckons you seek the photos for me?
Speaker 17: Who he hasn't done that at all, And I think
Speaker 17: he has one to show his boss.
Speaker 5: And also I think it's I think it's time to
Speaker 5: get the boss out.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I think I need to go get him
Speaker 17: back out again, absolutely and do it because it's just
Speaker 17: a lot of money if paid out for it. It's
Speaker 17: my wave, a home at the stage.
Speaker 7: And you want it to be right.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I need to get it right. Yeah, definitely, right.
Speaker 5: Get the boss out in the first instance, and then
Speaker 5: electrical inspector after that, and then there is actually a
Speaker 5: disciplinary board that they have as I understand it as well.
Speaker 5: So good luck with that, Bernie and Mike.
Speaker 18: Get oh how are you this morning?
Speaker 5: Very well? How can I help?
Speaker 18: Yeah? Look, I've got a property account for about thirty years.
Speaker 18: Thinking about two thousand and eighteen, I think it was
Speaker 18: we we did some innovations in the building of a
Speaker 18: bit of a shorty job yep, and we never got
Speaker 18: to build a building code tients. And when I say
Speaker 18: shotty jobs's things like some of the fleshings don't go
Speaker 18: past the windows and that's them. There's a deck that's
Speaker 18: it comes off. That's the second story which is not
Speaker 18: low enough.
Speaker 5: And a quick question, the work that was done in
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, was it done with a building consent? So
Speaker 5: a building consent was issued for the work and then
Speaker 5: the work was done, Yes, it was, yes, okay, And
Speaker 5: the building consent didn't get signed off the building.
Speaker 18: The building consent inspections some of them got signed off,
Speaker 18: but the coding compliance we just knew got it was
Speaker 18: to bands like with the builder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it's me so we're looking looking to.
Speaker 18: Sell the place, and the building inspector's been out and
Speaker 18: he's gone around and given a solista some of the
Speaker 18: things that he's seen a.
Speaker 5: Building inspectors in the council Building inspector.
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, yes, and so we can get those fixed.
Speaker 18: But I'm still unsure as to you know, when I
Speaker 18: go back and sell down all these senisters. Someone said
Speaker 18: to me, well, you know you might have to. Actually
Speaker 18: they might still not pass it because the whole house
Speaker 18: wouldn't be compliant now because it's top so long go,
Speaker 18: the insulation wouldn't very right. And do I have to
Speaker 18: bring it all up to speed or is it just
Speaker 18: what the building the council buildings peck yourselves and what
Speaker 18: I have to do.
Speaker 5: Just do what the building inspector asked you to do.
Speaker 5: So if you've gone effectively you've asked for a final
Speaker 5: inspection again, they've come out, they've given you a list
Speaker 5: of things to do. Do exactly what's on the list.
Speaker 5: Try and get the same building inspector back. They will
Speaker 5: tick that off and then you can make an application
Speaker 5: for a CCC. Now that process is always the homeowner's responsibility,
Speaker 5: and twenty eighteen not actually that long ago. They will
Speaker 5: want things like producer statements, record of works from your builder.
Speaker 5: They'll want certain warranty documents and so on. Get it
Speaker 5: done because I guess, and this is me speaking professionally
Speaker 5: as well, I will do pre purchase inspections from time
Speaker 5: to time. My attitude years ago was, if you've had
Speaker 5: a building like yours, you could make a determination and
Speaker 5: go look on the balance of probabilities. You could sort
Speaker 5: it out later on if you bought it right. My
Speaker 5: advice these days is to say to someone who's looking
Speaker 5: at a building, So if I was acting for someone
Speaker 5: who might be interested in your house, I would say
Speaker 5: to them, make sure that you might get the CCC
Speaker 5: for it. Don't take on that responsibility later on because
Speaker 5: it can be difficult. So I think it any money
Speaker 5: that you spend getting your house up and getting a
Speaker 5: CCC for it is money well spent.
Speaker 18: It would be my advice, right, And is there other
Speaker 18: people that can, like, can I go and get someone
Speaker 18: else that comes and speaks it and gives me a
Speaker 18: producer savment or something that sees that you know that
Speaker 18: it's wanted, which means.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the best people to engage for that,
Speaker 5: but there are fees involved. Obviously would be a building
Speaker 5: survey as a registered building surveyor, because they're obviously familiar
Speaker 5: with the code and the code requirements and they will also,
Speaker 5: like I'm contracting a building surveyor at the moment to
Speaker 5: prepare a report that I can give to counsel to
Speaker 5: prove to counsel that the cladding is going to be
Speaker 5: durable and complies with the durability requirements of the code. Right,
Speaker 5: so it performs. Okay, now that's something that I'm familiar with,
Speaker 5: but I don't have the level of qualification in order
Speaker 5: to do that, and so I've contracted on behalf of
Speaker 5: my client to get a registered building surveyor to undertake that.
Speaker 5: So you may find that you end up getting a
Speaker 5: registered building survey. So it's either just go to ends
Speaker 5: ibs dot org so use it or building survey dot
Speaker 5: org dot enz scroll through and you'll find people in
Speaker 5: your area and then then go from there.
Speaker 18: Okay, all right, okay, but.
Speaker 5: You know it's it's a lot of work, but I
Speaker 5: assure you if you get it done, it's it's so
Speaker 5: much in your interest to get it done. Okay, all right,
Speaker 5: all the very best to you. Take care. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: there's a bit of work involved in that, right to you.
Speaker 5: Let's talk painting, and I'm going to start off by going, Jay,
Speaker 5: how are you mate?
Speaker 4: Just listening to the last couple of questions, it sounds
Speaker 4: like it's a curly morning, and to.
Speaker 5: Be fair, it's it's only going to get curlier. I'll
Speaker 5: tell you what actually, just can we get a comment
Speaker 5: from you. The other day, I've been doing some work
Speaker 5: and I had some decking timber that turned up unprimed, right,
Speaker 5: So that was it's simple. It's it's h three point
Speaker 5: two timber. It's it's all dressed and ready to go,
Speaker 5: so obviously it needs a primer. So I used an
Speaker 5: oil based primer. Then, as for your advice, I've I've
Speaker 5: applied another coat of quick dry over the top of that.
Speaker 5: Then once it went down and I'd done all the priming,
Speaker 5: I've I've put my lumbersider over the top. So, but
Speaker 5: then the other day I bought a post that was
Speaker 5: pre primed, and a lot of timber that supplied for
Speaker 5: exterior cladding comes pre primed. I took the approach that
Speaker 5: that's kind of just a factory coat, and so once
Speaker 5: i'd finished working on the post, I gave it a
Speaker 5: light sand and take much to sand some of that
Speaker 5: primer off, and then re primed it with oil base. Again,
Speaker 5: is that generally what you would advise for pre primed boards.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 4: A lot of the pre prime timber is just like
Speaker 4: a transportation primer to the timber and transit. It's not
Speaker 4: a primer designed be kind of painted over. So you
Speaker 4: need to give it a sand re prime with an
Speaker 4: oil based primer, and then you get to go. There
Speaker 4: is some primer out there. There's true Prime from Razine
Speaker 4: and some of the other manufacturers do primers as well
Speaker 4: on certain weather boards and timbers. Yes, that will be
Speaker 4: there'll be stickers on the back of the boards around
Speaker 4: preparation and what you need to do, and some of
Speaker 4: those primers you can paint over. Yes, but the vast
Speaker 4: majority of pre prime timber you need to sand and reprime.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's good advice. And I know, like I've worked
Speaker 5: with timber clouting systems where they are prime undercodd and
Speaker 5: have a first code on them, so you know that's
Speaker 5: slightly different, but they will tell you that. So I
Speaker 5: think the safe assumption is if it's just got a
Speaker 5: primer on it, a factory primer on it. You should
Speaker 5: send it and reprime that.
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, you gave it a sand
Speaker 4: and it was just turning to dust essentially. So yeah,
Speaker 4: if you want to get through that and actually get
Speaker 4: a decent primer on there, the primers like the whole
Speaker 4: anchor right coat for the whole system. So that's the
Speaker 4: one coat that needs to be done really really well.
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh and look, it didn't take in this instance,
Speaker 5: didn't take a lot of time, and you know, I
Speaker 5: feel a lot more confident about it going forward. So
Speaker 5: that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Let's rip into some texts of Vitex sticks that has
Speaker 5: been Vitex that's been oiled twice. The last time was
Speaker 5: ten years ago. Now more than well weared, weathered, no
Speaker 5: surprise there can I clean and put a water based
Speaker 5: stain on it? So what are the issues there? If
Speaker 5: it's been oiled ten years ago?
Speaker 2: What can I do?
Speaker 4: Really depends depends on what oil was used. If it's
Speaker 4: a mineral oil, like you've got a couple out there,
Speaker 4: wood X Dryden CD fifty, you need to stick with
Speaker 4: those right on the timber. If it's an oil like
Speaker 4: our razine solvent blen Woodsman. Then yes, you could clean
Speaker 4: it and go over with the water Born Woodsman or
Speaker 4: the solvent board Woodsman again. So to clean it it
Speaker 4: would be scrub it with rasine, timber and backwash.
Speaker 18: Yep.
Speaker 4: And then if you're not sure, ten years a long
Speaker 4: time of finding out what was on there. Pretty slim,
Speaker 4: So I'd say try one of our water Born Woodsman
Speaker 4: test spots in if you can, in an inconspicuous area, yes,
Speaker 4: and then just give it a couple of days see
Speaker 4: if it penetrates and dries, and if it does, you
Speaker 4: should be okay to restain over over that old oil.
Speaker 4: If it doesn't, then it stays on the surface and
Speaker 4: it's still tacky. Yes, then unfortunately you're going to have
Speaker 4: to stick with like a mineral oil.
Speaker 5: On that, i'ld say, right, So it's about compatibility between
Speaker 5: the different paint systems, right, Oh, painting question. I've got
Speaker 5: a soft ball sized hole in a hatch board wall
Speaker 5: in my garage. Once repaired with a small piece of
Speaker 5: GiB and plaster, I'd don't want to repaint the wall.
Speaker 5: Any tips for paintings leans in good fuck the size
Speaker 5: hole sounds awfully similar to a first size hole.
Speaker 4: Or ahead or a football really, so master painters and
Speaker 4: they're fat sheets. You say, anything bigger than a postage stamp,
Speaker 4: you're not really going to be able to touch up
Speaker 4: that area, right, So when you start getting bigger than
Speaker 4: that and lochine paint, you're you're going to struggle without
Speaker 4: doing corner to corner on the wall. Yeah, and our
Speaker 4: advices really always go corner to corner to try and
Speaker 4: blend it all in.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the sort of thing you might get
Speaker 5: away with a touch up of a job that's recently
Speaker 5: being done, you know, like if you've got the same same.
Speaker 4: Role of application, then you might. But like I said,
Speaker 4: master painters say anything she wise greater than a flat
Speaker 4: or matt finish, you're going to struggle when it's bigger
Speaker 4: than a postage stamp.
Speaker 5: So yeah, paint and it might show up corner to
Speaker 5: corner absolutely. Yeah, we're painters not magicians. Yeah, that's it right.
Speaker 5: Getting some window frames done dark blue? What is the
Speaker 5: process to ensure that the paint lasts so dark blue
Speaker 5: window frames? And actually tell us what the light reflectance
Speaker 5: value is, so every.
Speaker 4: Color has got the value of the amount of light
Speaker 4: it reflects, and obviously the darker the color, it's going
Speaker 4: to absorb more light and more heat, and then that
Speaker 4: heat transfers obviously into the substrate the paints on. With
Speaker 4: timber windows, obviously the darker you go, the more heat
Speaker 4: it's going to absorb, and then the more movement you're
Speaker 4: likely to get in the timber yep. So ideally going
Speaker 4: lighter would be better.
Speaker 2: Yes, Obviously, if you're going to go dark.
Speaker 4: We'd always recommend using the cool colored version of the
Speaker 4: color so that that helps reflect more of the heat
Speaker 4: out from entering the substrate. That makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, In terms of the numbers, because some like with
Speaker 5: the boards for example, they'll the manufacturer will say, if
Speaker 5: you paint a color that has a number above thirty
Speaker 5: five I think is typically where it cuts off, then
Speaker 5: it's forty five.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's around forty forty five. As usually the.
Speaker 5: Cutoff white as sort of one and black is one hundred.
Speaker 2: Is that how it works?
Speaker 4: It is near enough for blacks about four percent or something.
Speaker 4: In white's probably ninety five or something either way around.
Speaker 5: Okay, So higher the number, the lighter the color, and
Speaker 5: so going below forty five is not advisable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, are you under check head?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never convinced that I've got it.
Speaker 4: It's more heat, it reflects less light. So the darker
Speaker 4: is going to absorb more and the light is going
Speaker 4: to reflect more.
Speaker 5: Okay, So in this situation, they're wedded to the dark color.
Speaker 5: They love it. What's the best thing to do?
Speaker 4: So, I mean it depends. So say it's timber weather,
Speaker 4: timber window. It's in pretty good condition at the moment.
Speaker 4: I'm presuming it's painted already, so it's kind of sand.
Speaker 16: What's on there?
Speaker 4: To de gloss?
Speaker 6: What's on there?
Speaker 4: Spot prime? Many bear areas would resime quick dry or
Speaker 4: Rasine wood primal, then the full coat of the Razine
Speaker 4: quick dry, and then i'd say used to lust the
Speaker 4: quill in that in the color they've chosen. But if
Speaker 4: it's forty or more like reflectance value, which kind of
Speaker 4: a darkish blue, will be used to call color version.
Speaker 5: Yess okay, brilliant stand the light. We're going to take
Speaker 5: short break. We'll be back with Jay from Razine after
Speaker 5: the break.
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give feeder,
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Speaker 2: The resident builder on news dogs.
Speaker 5: B Jay Sharples from Razine is with us this morning
Speaker 5: taking your painting questions. Oh, here's a goodie painting a
Speaker 5: thirty one year old cedar house which has only been
Speaker 5: stained once when it was first built in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5: What is the preparation required before painting? How many coats
Speaker 5: of paint and a suitable paint for a cedar house
Speaker 5: that is north facing and exposed built on a hill?
Speaker 4: Anything again? Like the kind of vile earlier? Like if
Speaker 4: it's been oiled.
Speaker 5: Initially thirty one years with no log, go.
Speaker 4: Back to stain. Our recommendations for stain is staining every
Speaker 4: sort of two to three summers. Yep, So it's thirty
Speaker 4: one years for nothing. There's no protection on the cedar.
Speaker 4: What state is that cladenine to even look at?
Speaker 5: It's not going to be pretty.
Speaker 4: No, So system is razine, timber and deck quarters to
Speaker 4: give it a good clean. I'd imagine a moss and
Speaker 4: mold treatment as well. You're looking at a full coat
Speaker 4: of razine wood primer and then two coats of lumbersider.
Speaker 4: But I've seen old seedar houses that haven't had any
Speaker 4: sort of love for a number of years, where the
Speaker 4: ceedar gets very profiled and you get those peaks and
Speaker 4: troughs and what you can get when you paint it,
Speaker 4: which isn't visible really when you stain it is a
Speaker 4: lot of shadowing from those peaks and troughs on profile timber.
Speaker 4: So then if you get painters in paint it, the
Speaker 4: homeowner thinks the painters haven't put enough paint on because
Speaker 4: the house looks really patchy. But a lot of the
Speaker 4: time it's just those pigs and troughs in the in
Speaker 4: the profile of the timber.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that that's the system is give
Speaker 4: it a good clean down and then in wood primer
Speaker 4: and two coats of lumbersider. Or you're looking at restaining
Speaker 4: it and then restaining it every few years, yeah, or
Speaker 4: looking at recladding.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, ultimately you're right, it may well need it. So
Speaker 5: you know, I suppose what it is is have realistic expectations.
Speaker 5: So if it's thoroughly cleaned, the right paint system, it
Speaker 5: will help protect it for some time. Like the house
Speaker 5: will love it, but don't expect to get a quality finish.
Speaker 5: Like you might have got off new cedar boards or
Speaker 5: new weather boards.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely. Last one is someone who's noticed mold ink
Speaker 5: like stains on the ceiling they painted with kitchen and
Speaker 5: bathroom paint. Wipe the ceiling, but it seems to be
Speaker 5: under the paint. Did they paint over the mold in
Speaker 5: the first place?
Speaker 4: Potentially, yes, I suppose if it's if it's bleeding through
Speaker 4: them paint, then yeah. We always recommend using rasime, moss
Speaker 4: and mold killer because it's it kills the spores of
Speaker 4: the mold, and if you just wipe it, it looks
Speaker 4: like you've removed it with just just wipe it with
Speaker 4: right or anything else, it looks like you've removed the mold,
Speaker 4: but the spores are still there. Yep, So you really
Speaker 4: need to use the bleach. In our opinion, a bleach
Speaker 4: based cleanhad like razine, moss and molecular to kill those
Speaker 4: spores so that when you do paint it they're not
Speaker 4: still there and bleeding through the coating.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: Now it's then you've noticed it. You can it might
Speaker 4: take multiple sort of treatments, but you can just keep
Speaker 4: cleaning it with the moss and molecular and hopefully it
Speaker 4: should get through and sort of help solve the issue.
Speaker 5: Yeah awesome, Okay, well right, do it right and do
Speaker 5: it once and do it right?
Speaker 7: Is the key is?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Isn't that the mental Absolutely? Hey j thank you
Speaker 5: very much for all your advice this morning. Much appreciated.
Speaker 5: Have a great day, take care all the best, I think,
Speaker 5: And actually the Razine people are at the Home and
Speaker 5: Garden Show which is on at Eden Park today, so
Speaker 5: last day to day. It's been on Thursday, Friday, Saturday
Speaker 5: and again today. So the Home and Garden Show. They've
Speaker 5: got sort of an experienced area for the kids, which
Speaker 5: is great fun. Some of the experts are presenting today.
Speaker 5: I happen to be in the expert line up today
Speaker 5: as well. So if you're at the Home and Garden
Speaker 5: Show today around twelve o'clock, make your way to the
Speaker 5: little sort of auditorium area. They've got a presentation area there,
Speaker 5: not far from the entrance way, and do a little
Speaker 5: presentation on sort of my take on changes to building
Speaker 5: because there's so much change, what's changing? What's it about?
Speaker 5: It's a fast and furious thirty minute presentation from twelve
Speaker 5: o'clock today at the Home and Garden Show. Thereafter I
Speaker 5: will cruise down to the food court because man, there's
Speaker 5: some good food on offer at the Home and Garden
Speaker 5: Show today. Great exhibitors too, and actually had a really
Speaker 5: cool conversation with Flexi Abode.
Speaker 2: I'll check that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Flexi Homes who do sort of modular construction, so
Speaker 5: off site construction assembly on site, interestingly enough, using jaframe
Speaker 5: as their preferred framing timber that they use for it,
Speaker 5: which is really really cool, and then using Stark Joinery
Speaker 5: in most of their projects as well, which is the
Speaker 5: high performance uPVC joinery that they incorporate in order to
Speaker 5: get really high performing homes. Actually, I had a just
Speaker 5: quickly for the breaky Friday. I spent the morning going
Speaker 5: through the factory actually at Stark Joinery, so they make
Speaker 5: the uPVC joinery. The whole process from the essentially the
Speaker 5: stock the blanks coming out into a highly automated system
Speaker 5: that cuts everything, drills all the holes, goes through reinforcement,
Speaker 5: goes into the assembly of the actual frames themselves, which
Speaker 5: is done with heat, so their heat welded in the
Speaker 5: corners and then automatically cleaned up, and then the assembly
Speaker 5: of the hardware and the process out the door. So
Speaker 5: fascinating insight into some of the technology and clever thinking
Speaker 5: that goes into these high performance uPVC windows. So that
Speaker 5: was great. Actually really enjoyed my time out there at Stark.
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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfgaf, the resident builder
Speaker 1: on news Talk seb and A very good morning, John.
Speaker 10: How are you doing, Pete?
Speaker 13: Very well?
Speaker 10: I got really excited when I heard that text question, yes,
Speaker 10: and then I was bitterly disappointed about the razine guy's
Speaker 10: answer to it. Right, remember describing to you how I
Speaker 10: did my place.
Speaker 5: You sended it right back, and you ground it and
Speaker 5: you polished it and you honed it and you looked
Speaker 5: at it with a microscope and you applied fifty six
Speaker 5: coats of paint and it looks magnificent.
Speaker 10: Well, I don't think that description would help the personist
Speaker 10: exactly how to do it? Do me to describe it?
Speaker 5: I remember what you talking about, and look at it
Speaker 5: if in your instance, and I really admire the application, right,
Speaker 5: So the dedication to it, I guess it's the sort
Speaker 5: of thing that you know, You and I as homeowners
Speaker 5: tend to pour our heart and soul into these processes
Speaker 5: and we can achieve great results. But from a commercial
Speaker 5: point of view, can you pay someone to put as
Speaker 5: much time and effort in Well, yes you can, but
Speaker 5: it tends to be a bit cost prohibitive. But look,
Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying, John, And for listeners who
Speaker 5: don't recall the conversation, you know, John put a lot
Speaker 5: of time and effort into standing, prepping and restoring the
Speaker 5: timber joinery, and I'm sure it looks absolutely magnificent. So
Speaker 5: it can be done, but it comes down to perhaps
Speaker 5: the amount of time, and typically the amount of time
Speaker 5: ends up being the amount of money. John really lovely
Speaker 5: to talk to you, and it was actually John that
Speaker 5: I sat with for a little while at the Home
Speaker 5: and Garden John Wellington a week while ago and it
Speaker 5: was a great conversation, so really appreciate it. It is
Speaker 5: ten minutes away from eight today. We're looking into tryboard
Speaker 5: as a lining option. So it comes in two point
Speaker 5: four or three point six meter sheets. It's ten mil.
Speaker 5: It's got two MDF outer layers in a strand board
Speaker 5: inner layer, light durable, can handle the NOOX. It's pretty tough,
Speaker 5: so it's perfect for renovations and for new builds. Joining
Speaker 5: us this morning is Brendan Maroney from Store in z Now.
Speaker 5: You specialize in kitchens, cabins and custom builds based up
Speaker 5: in Northland. You've been using it for a couple of years.
Speaker 5: How did you get interested in tryboard.
Speaker 11: I started using trybards just after the COVID lockdowns. And
Speaker 11: the reason I started using it is because Plywoods became
Speaker 11: quite inconsistent, just availability and also the varying price and
Speaker 11: the quality as well. The quality really planted a little bit,
Speaker 11: I think, just due to availability.
Speaker 5: Sure, so in terms of the installation process, this is
Speaker 5: your life over conventional timber framing, speed, complexity. Walk us
Speaker 5: through it.
Speaker 11: So yeah, it's pretty it's pretty simple. We just we
Speaker 11: do our framing and insulation and cabling, and then the
Speaker 11: triboarders glued to our timber framing, and then pins and
Speaker 11: then also screwed, just just to compress the glue and
Speaker 11: give it a good fixing. It's not used as a
Speaker 11: bracing element, but it definitely does add a bracing element
Speaker 11: to the structure.
Speaker 5: In terms of selection of links, what do you typically use?
Speaker 11: I use both the two point four and the three
Speaker 11: point six one. I find the two point four mainly
Speaker 11: for the wall linings, and then also if I build
Speaker 11: a higher units, I can cut down the three point
Speaker 11: six yep. But then the three point six is ideal
Speaker 11: for going across the ceiling long ways. Just less less boards,
Speaker 11: less work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're using it a nicer finish walls and ceilings.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 5: In terms of of coating it, what what would your
Speaker 5: top tips for coating it be.
Speaker 11: I don't really have many top tips for courting as
Speaker 11: to come in and do it. As far as the
Speaker 11: courting goes, it's it's a lot nicer than than a
Speaker 11: plywood finish. It's there's no inconsistencies or not so it
Speaker 11: definitely comes up really nice once it's finished, and we
Speaker 11: put a little chamfur on the giint yes, and line
Speaker 11: them up with the ceiling, and yeah, it looks stunny.
Speaker 5: And because with the NDF skin on it, it does
Speaker 5: give you a really really smooth finish, doesn't it It does?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's when you look side by side with
Speaker 11: NDF and fire, would you get a really nice finish.
Speaker 15: Nice.
Speaker 5: In terms of some projects coming up, where do you
Speaker 5: think you'll be using Tribwald next.
Speaker 11: I use triboard on I'd say ninety five percent of
Speaker 11: my cabins, so I'll be using it this week. I
Speaker 11: buy it quite quite regularly, probably buy a pack of
Speaker 11: fifty every two weeks. Yes, yeah, so that's I was
Speaker 11: in stock in my in my workshop.
Speaker 5: That's brilliant. It's become sort of an integral part of
Speaker 5: the buildings that you do.
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely. It's just that consistency and consistency and product
Speaker 11: price and availability and.
Speaker 5: A finish that you're really happy with.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and also the customers love that they come and
Speaker 11: they're always impressed with the finish. So that's I I
Speaker 11: was a bonus good to hear.
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Speaker 8: Z B.
Speaker 5: Just finishing a snack right, Oh, it is six minutes away.
Speaker 5: Terribly unprofessional of me. Six minutes away from eight o'clock.
Speaker 5: If you've got a question, Oh, eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 5: ten eighty is that number to call. We'll take your
Speaker 5: calls right through till eight thirty this morning, when we'll
Speaker 5: jump into the garden with Rud. A couple of texts
Speaker 5: that have come through as well. Pete, can I paint
Speaker 5: a nineteen seventies brick house? Yes, you can, Bob rob
Speaker 5: So it's all about the primer, and interestingly enough, typically
Speaker 5: it's a pigmented Seala as the recommended primer onto brick
Speaker 5: so clean it thoroughly pigmented seila top coats over the
Speaker 5: top of that. Whether you do it with a brush
Speaker 5: or a roller or potentially even spray, it is completely
Speaker 5: up to you as well. Someone has text through this
Speaker 5: an interesting one. It was a painting question, but it
Speaker 5: kind of isn't. So they have a large house at
Speaker 5: ground level with internal guttering that sort of class facier
Speaker 5: type arrangement and replacing it has been quoted out at
Speaker 5: a rate that they can't afford. Seemingly, it's sound and
Speaker 5: I'd like to preserve it by painting it on the inside.
Speaker 5: Can you paint it? There are coatings that you could use,
Speaker 5: and I was talking to the guys from Polymer Systems
Speaker 5: who do Injuris as a coating that you could apply
Speaker 5: to extend the life. So have a look for in
Speaker 5: Juris e n d urs. That might be a product
Speaker 5: that you could apply to the inside. Tricky in those
Speaker 5: spaces sometimes, but it will probably extend the life of it. Otherwise,
Speaker 5: have a look at some of the really clever systems
Speaker 5: that are available for swapping this out. I know it's
Speaker 5: been a bit of a perennial topic on the show.
Speaker 5: The whole internal what we call internal spouting, so you'll
Speaker 5: have a facier board that's metal and then the spouting
Speaker 5: is clipped into the inside of it. They can be
Speaker 5: problematic and I noticed even actually at the Home Show
Speaker 5: Home and Garden Show continuous group of there and they've
Speaker 5: got a system which allows replacement that comes off facier
Speaker 5: goes on, external spouting goes on, so there is ready
Speaker 5: made systems available to swap those out.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: We are going to talk all things building and construction
Speaker 5: for the next half hour through to late thirty. Then
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Speaker 5: to thirty. Your news talks, B News, Sport and weather
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Speaker 1: Were helping you get those DIY projects done right. The
Speaker 1: resident builder with Beta WOLFCAF call OH eight hundred eighty
Speaker 1: ten eighty US talk ZV.
Speaker 5: Well, very good morning, welcome back to the program. Oh
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 5: That's for all of your calls abround building regulations, products, contractors, rules, regulations.
Speaker 5: Were talked a little bit about COCs and sorry not COCs, Yeah,
Speaker 5: COCs for electrical work, coas for building work, Certificate of
Speaker 5: Code compliance on the program this morning, talking a little
Speaker 5: bit about weather boards. We had jur painting expert on,
Speaker 5: so it's your opportunity to ask questions of a building
Speaker 5: nature right through to eight thirty and then we will
Speaker 5: jump into the garden with a ret climb pass. From
Speaker 5: eight point thirty as well. Quick couple of texts as
Speaker 5: well before we took to Lewis two large double glazed
Speaker 5: windows and endorsed stacker that are fogging inside between the
Speaker 5: glass panels. It happens after it's been sunny and then
Speaker 5: starts cooling down the cooler months of the year. Is
Speaker 5: this normal or perhaps a sign of faulty seals? We
Speaker 5: had them installed about eight years ago, but the fogging
Speaker 5: has just started in the last year. What are our
Speaker 5: options and your advice to remedy this. Well, unfortunately, there
Speaker 5: probably is no remedy apart from replacement, so it's reasonable
Speaker 5: to expect the DJ units not to perform like that
Speaker 5: within eight years. So I think if you know who
Speaker 5: installed them or more importantly, who manufactured them, well probably
Speaker 5: both things are actually important. So one of the things
Speaker 5: with double glazed units is when they're installed you need
Speaker 5: to make sure that they are gapped at the bottom
Speaker 5: because if they're just installed hard down onto the frame,
Speaker 5: they are likely to absorb more or it can penetrate
Speaker 5: the selant. So installation might have been the issue, or
Speaker 5: it might have been a manufacturing fault. Either way, find
Speaker 5: out who the manufacturer was and invite them back to
Speaker 5: have a look at it and see what you can do.
Speaker 5: In terms of replacement, Do you need a building consent
Speaker 5: to replace a wooden sash single glazed window with new
Speaker 5: uPVC double glazed windows. This is for a non heritage
Speaker 5: listed or zoned house. No, you don't. So what you're
Speaker 5: talking about there is the insert might be the insert
Speaker 5: system where timber frame you keep, You remove the sashes
Speaker 5: and the mullions and any fixed sashes, and a new
Speaker 5: uPVC insert is fitted into that. I was talking actually
Speaker 5: with sort of a mate who wanted to do something
Speaker 5: similar the other day. Put them in touch with Stark Windows.
Speaker 5: They've got a contractor who specialize in this sort of thing.
Speaker 5: So yes, it's definitely doable. If you're not changing the window,
Speaker 5: Even if you were taking the entire window out and
Speaker 5: replacing it with one pretty much the same size, If
Speaker 5: you're not altering the width of the opening, you don't
Speaker 5: need a building consent for that type of work. It's
Speaker 5: done under shood. You're one of the building acts. And look,
Speaker 5: the performance games are significant obviously with the uPVC but
Speaker 5: also with the double blazing. Put those two together, it'll
Speaker 5: transform the house. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 2: Hello, Lewis good a Peter.
Speaker 14: I'd like to talk to you about the Fencing Act,
Speaker 14: sure if I may. I live in North wite Kadow.
Speaker 14: I looked up the White Kadow website and they told
Speaker 14: me the Fencing Act was nineteen seventy nine, and I
Speaker 14: couldn't find any update date for the current Fencing Act,
Speaker 14: which is, as you know, six hundred diameter, six hundred
Speaker 14: deep footings, one hundred posts, two two meters center, maximum
Speaker 14: free rails, etc. Could you give me that date that
Speaker 14: come into forest please.
Speaker 5: I don't know that there's actually been an update since
Speaker 5: the date that you mentioned. I think what might have
Speaker 5: changed is the definition of a standard fence, because prior
Speaker 5: to that time a standard fence was actually I think
Speaker 5: it was a couple of warritas and three rows of
Speaker 5: number eight fencing wire that was considered a standard fence.
Speaker 5: So now it is as you've described it. Good on
Speaker 5: you for reading through it. I'm a little bit intrigued
Speaker 5: about the six hundred diameter hole for the post to
Speaker 5: sit in. That seems a bit excessive, like that's a
Speaker 5: lot of concrete around one hundred bi hundred post.
Speaker 14: Yes, well that's what that's where I believe the requirement is.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, that's interesting. I'm a little bit skeptical, to
Speaker 5: be fair, that seems like a very detailed and very
Speaker 5: and quite an excessive I mean, if I'm doing a fence,
Speaker 5: I'm not using a six hundred orger and then putting
Speaker 5: one hundred bye hundred posts in there. You know, I
Speaker 5: might be using a three hundred orger and then may
Speaker 5: be squaring it off a bit, but it ain't going
Speaker 5: to be six hundred but either way, So I think
Speaker 5: what it is is the definition of a standard fence
Speaker 5: has changed, but the act in terms of you know,
Speaker 5: having to write a letter, in terms of engagement with
Speaker 5: the neighbor, their contribution and so on, that stayed the same.
Speaker 5: The principles have stayed the same. It's only the specifics
Speaker 5: around what is a standard fence that's changed.
Speaker 14: Oh, I'm surprised that I've built a few offences in
Speaker 14: my time on why Hickey had a whole lot of
Speaker 14: special requirements for putting in fences, even had to get
Speaker 14: the council to come out and verify where you're going
Speaker 14: to dig the holes for the posts. And you've got
Speaker 14: to dig them by hand. They were all three hundred
Speaker 14: diameter posts. The last fence I built on my Hickey,
Speaker 14: I was under the new system of two meter maximum centers.
Speaker 14: They required six hundred diameter footings poured in plastic bags.
Speaker 14: At the moment, I couldn't find any date where this
Speaker 14: new requirement come into force, but I think it was
Speaker 14: about two thousand and two thousand and five somewhere around there.
Speaker 5: So I've just had a look. So there's the Fencing
Speaker 5: Act nineteen seventy eight is still called the Fencing Act
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy eight, but there is a version, an updated
Speaker 5: version twenty thirty December twenty twenty three, twenty three.
Speaker 14: I was right on the money twenty twenty three. Well
Speaker 14: that's what I'm at.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But just just for clarity, I think if you know,
Speaker 5: like if counsel are involved in the fence, then I
Speaker 5: wonder whether that fence is then part of a building consent,
Speaker 5: in which case you know there will be specific design
Speaker 5: and so on. Typically you don't need a building consent
Speaker 5: to do a boundary fence between two neighbors. If it's
Speaker 5: not retaining or it's not it doesn't have a surcharge,
Speaker 5: or it's not over a certain height and that sort
Speaker 5: of thing. Yeah, it won't get specific design.
Speaker 14: Right. Well, the situation I'm in, I've got a neighbor
Speaker 14: who's removed the support from the ground around right the
Speaker 14: area up underneath the fence posts into our by at
Speaker 14: least fifty millimeters, and he's removed all the support around
Speaker 14: the foundations of the fence, which are six hundred diameter
Speaker 14: with one hundred posts. The builder had recently replaced a
Speaker 14: fence which was built in nineteen ninety five, and this
Speaker 14: was done about six months ago. That seems all right.
Speaker 14: This neighbor has cut the back of the fence. He's
Speaker 14: removed all the support, exposed all the fence foundations. He's
Speaker 14: taking a dry concrete cutting sare or whatever, and he's
Speaker 14: cut down the back of the posts. So he's cut
Speaker 14: two hundred and fifty millimeters off the back of the
Speaker 14: concrete foundations and then knocked it off with a sledgehammer,
Speaker 14: and he's taken it down about four hundred and fifty
Speaker 14: millim meters in some places. I haven't measured any of
Speaker 14: these because I haven't been over there. I've just been
Speaker 14: looking over the since I've sewn the council and they've
Speaker 14: basically done nothing.
Speaker 5: No, they'll regard it as a civil matter.
Speaker 7: So where do I go?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 14: Go to the courts?
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 7: So there is.
Speaker 5: Under the property law, so Property Act right, there is
Speaker 5: some provision around you know, if a neighbor undermines you fence,
Speaker 5: you can make a claim against the neighbor. And that
Speaker 5: sounds exactly like what they've done, you know, And I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, what you would hope is that if for example,
Speaker 5: they were doing some earthworks on their side to get
Speaker 5: a driveway, and for example, and they needed to get
Speaker 5: the levels down and they were going to have to
Speaker 5: undermine your fence, they would also put in a retaining
Speaker 5: wall that would then offer some support to the fence.
Speaker 5: But that comes a civil matter. So yeah, it is,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean the you might want to get
Speaker 5: your lawyer involved, or you might want to do your
Speaker 5: own sort of legal research and then take a claim
Speaker 5: through the disputes tribunal to see whether or not you
Speaker 5: can get a contribution for a new retaining wall, or
Speaker 5: just go over have a conversation and go look, you've
Speaker 5: obviously dug down the fence is going to fall over.
Speaker 5: Can you do a retaining wall there? And you might
Speaker 5: contribute to it, you might not, but it'll it'll always
Speaker 5: be just a discussion between you and the neighbor.
Speaker 14: I actually live in a retirement village.
Speaker 5: Whoever you're you're acting for might be you know, whoever
Speaker 5: you whoever the interested parties are, they'll have to have
Speaker 5: a bit of a discussion and determine how they're going
Speaker 5: to resolve that. But you know, look, I get the frustration,
Speaker 5: and it happens a lot with developments. There's a big
Speaker 5: article in the paper the other day a family came
Speaker 5: home find their hedge, their four meter high hedge had
Speaker 5: been removed right because the builder next door cut through
Speaker 5: all the roots and then thought, oh, it looks like
Speaker 5: they're going to fall over. I'll just take them out. Well,
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. Have the conversation first seems to
Speaker 5: be the answer. Good luck with all of that, Lewis,
Speaker 5: and good on you for looking after somebody else as well.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
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Speaker 5: He might have wandered off, Well, come back with Helen
Speaker 5: after the break. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're
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Speaker 5: We are talking all things building and construction right up
Speaker 5: to a thirty Helen greetings to you.
Speaker 19: Good morning to you.
Speaker 5: Indeed, how can I help?
Speaker 19: I've got a thirty three year old house. I've got
Speaker 19: a balcony out of my upstairs bedroom which is some tiles.
Speaker 19: It's a wooden balcony. It's good tiles which and I
Speaker 19: think you know underneath ye. Over the last eighty months
Speaker 19: I've had a huge subdivision development going on less than
Speaker 19: three meters away, so hence wild there was a couple
Speaker 19: of cracktailes. I've got, you know, really bad cracktailes, and
Speaker 19: the groutings are loose and everything else. I'm looking at
Speaker 19: selling shortly. Do I when do I replace it? Before
Speaker 19: I fell on two I have had one quote which
Speaker 19: is about twenty fourced out. Is there something cheaper you
Speaker 19: can do it with? About maybe the tiling or do
Speaker 19: I need to replate the waterproofine.
Speaker 5: I guess the first question is does it leak.
Speaker 19: Downstairs? Yeah, there's one week occasionally when the wind blows
Speaker 19: ways that I've had it tested three or four years
Speaker 19: ago and the guys couldn't find a leak by actually screwting.
Speaker 18: The deck.
Speaker 19: The deck type thing.
Speaker 5: So in most instances, because again, if you're going to sell,
Speaker 5: it's going to be one of the questions, and certainly
Speaker 5: any halfway decent pre purchase inspection person who comes to
Speaker 5: look at it will go okay. So what we see
Speaker 5: here is you know, timber, substrate, butanol application direct fix tile. Now,
Speaker 5: even if the job was done really, really well, there's
Speaker 5: a couple of things. One is you're not allowed to
Speaker 5: build like that anymore for a number of good reasons.
Speaker 5: The other one is that it's possibly reaching the end
Speaker 5: of its life, and serviceability is difficult because if there's
Speaker 5: a problem with the waterproofing, you can't get to it
Speaker 5: because the tiles are stuck down to it. Certainly removing
Speaker 5: the tiles is going to damage the waterproofing, in which
Speaker 5: case you need to replace or repair the waterproofing membrane,
Speaker 5: and then you can't direct fixed tiles down to waterproofing
Speaker 5: membrane anymore. So you could do like a timber deck,
Speaker 5: or you could use jacks with tiles.
Speaker 19: Yeah, so that legally that you can't now direct.
Speaker 5: Well, it's certainly not compliant with the building code anymore
Speaker 5: to direct fix it. And to be fair, I'd be
Speaker 5: disappointed if a contractor came along and did what was
Speaker 5: there already, even if they said, look, it's maintenance, I'm
Speaker 5: doing like for like. The reality is we know that
Speaker 5: these things cause a problem, and so you don't want
Speaker 5: to leave that problem with somebody else. In fact, if
Speaker 5: they were to do it and you sold the house
Speaker 5: and there's a problem with it, they would be I
Speaker 5: think liable for the repairs. So I mean there are
Speaker 5: some systems whereby you could, for example, have the tiles removed.
Speaker 5: There will likely be some damage to the butteanyl if
Speaker 5: the buttanyle generally is in reasonable condition, as in it's
Speaker 5: still well adhered to the substrate, you could do a
Speaker 5: coating over the top of that and then place what
Speaker 5: they could like booz on jacks or they're like a
Speaker 5: plastic jack that you can put down on top, and
Speaker 5: then you can get some of them which allow you
Speaker 5: to put tiles directly on them, so thickt tiles like
Speaker 5: a nineteen mill tile and have effectively a floating deck
Speaker 5: or floating surface over the top of the waterproofing. The
Speaker 5: advantage of that is that if there was ever a
Speaker 5: problem with the waterproofing, you can lift those out and
Speaker 5: get access to the waterproofing for repair. So that would
Speaker 5: be a much more cost effective solution, you know, But
Speaker 5: there's you've got to be realistic around the limitations of
Speaker 5: how waterproof that might be. If you had extensive waterproofing issues,
Speaker 5: and you know, in all fairness to the contractors, typically
Speaker 5: if you were doing that work and you wanted to
Speaker 5: do a sort of absolute belt embraces approach, you might
Speaker 5: be taking the joinery out, you'd be taking the lower
Speaker 5: parts of the cladding off, you'd be stripping off the
Speaker 5: waterproofing completely. You might find for that vintage that the
Speaker 5: plywood that's underneath it will be untreated. In some cases,
Speaker 5: I've seen that plywood fix down with clouds. The clouds
Speaker 5: work their way out of the joist and then the
Speaker 5: head pops up above the plywood and is visible, and
Speaker 5: that can be I've seen it cut through the waterproofing.
Speaker 5: So then you say, okay, well then my ply would's
Speaker 5: no good, So I'm going to rip up all the ply,
Speaker 5: would replace that, maybe increase the fall threshold might not
Speaker 5: be one hundred and fifty millimeters, which it's required by
Speaker 5: the code. Now you can see how these things get complicated.
Speaker 14: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 19: Yeah, sorry, But in terms of a straightforw.
Speaker 5: Would repair, it would be remove the tiles, apply waterproofing
Speaker 5: coating that is compatible with the bututinyl, and there are
Speaker 5: some of those. There's one product called Injurist that I've
Speaker 5: used recently, not for that application, but a similar type thing.
Speaker 5: Then you know the jacks and the tiles, that'll give
Speaker 5: you a finish that's maintainable, attractive to look at, and
Speaker 5: you know it's a reasonable solution.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 19: Is there any other sort of like I was sort
Speaker 19: of looking like a place called Superior Waterproofing of something.
Speaker 19: Is there any other besides putting tiles down? Any other options?
Speaker 5: Well, essentially you either tend to go tiles or timber. Right,
Speaker 5: so you might make up a raft like a timber
Speaker 5: raft that sits on these jacks on these pedestals. The
Speaker 5: whole thing is whatever we put over waterproofing in that
Speaker 5: situation where it's protecting a habitable space below has to
Speaker 5: be serviceable. So whatever decking system, whether it's tiles or timber,
Speaker 5: that you put down, has to be designed in such
Speaker 5: a way as it can be demountable, can be lifted up,
Speaker 5: and you can get access to the waterproofing for maintenance.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you can do timber or you can do tiles.
Speaker 5: All right, all right, couple of options therefore you okay,
Speaker 5: thank you very much, good luck all the us. Take
Speaker 5: care of them, all of us. Quick text before we
Speaker 5: get rid. Actually this is really interesting. One morning, I've
Speaker 5: sold part of my land so the neighbors can create
Speaker 5: a driveway for better access to their property. We had
Speaker 5: someone come over quote the work, accepted it and it
Speaker 5: got underway. Halfway through, they realized that a retaining war
Speaker 5: was needed and wanted to charge us an extra thirty
Speaker 5: grand to complete this. Where do myself and the contractors stand.
Speaker 5: The contractor has taken some ownership, but the quote has
Speaker 5: changed significantly since then. It's a really challenging one because
Speaker 5: you know, like a reconably well informed contractor will know
Speaker 5: what the heights will be, and you know it's not
Speaker 5: like a retaining wall magically suddenly becomes necessary. So you know,
Speaker 5: was there a problem with the scope of works? You know,
Speaker 5: when asking the contractor to price for work, did the
Speaker 5: floor levels or the finished ground levels not be clearly
Speaker 5: identified or did he just simply or they not take
Speaker 5: responsibility take due care here to ensure that if they
Speaker 5: were going to excavate down half a meter, for example,
Speaker 5: then you're going to need a retaining wall. But of
Speaker 5: course if it's not in their quote, if they didn't
Speaker 5: quote for a retaining wall, then it becomes a kind
Speaker 5: of ethical thing as to should they have informed you
Speaker 5: that a retaining war was likely so that you could
Speaker 5: price it into the job. Be interesting to know how
Speaker 5: you get on with that one. Rdio, let's jump into
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