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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 2: Ed by doing up the house, storning the garden.

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Speaker 1: Ask Pete for ahead the Resident Builder with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talks edb even

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Speaker 3: even when you got around from the ones you love

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Speaker 5: And a very very good morning and welcome along to

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Speaker 5: the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Peter wolf Camp,

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Speaker 5: the Resident Builder. We are talking all things building construction,

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Speaker 5: the rules, the regulations, the products, the selection of various

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Speaker 5: items that all come together to make your house hopefully

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Speaker 5: a home. We can talk about contractors, we can talk about,

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Speaker 5: like I say, legislation changes, the legislation. There's plenty of

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Speaker 5: that happening at the moment proposed changes, and we can

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Speaker 5: talk about the fact that next weekend is a long weekend,

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Speaker 5: isn't it. It is King's Birthday weekend. So maybe you've

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Speaker 5: got a job that you're thinking, well, I don't really

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Speaker 5: have time to do it in two days, but hey,

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Speaker 5: three days could be the tipping point. Three days could

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Speaker 5: be the opportunity to crack through a particular project. It'd

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Speaker 5: be really interesting to see what projects you've got hopefully

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Speaker 5: long term forecast and look that great for the end

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Speaker 5: you want to try and achieve over the course of

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Speaker 5: next week. A couple of things on the show today.

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Speaker 5: Our painting expert Jay Sharples from Razine Color Shops from

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Speaker 5: Razine Paints, will be back with us from seven to

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Speaker 5: twenty five, so we'll be taking text questions there from

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Speaker 5: you to Jay Tricky the better anything to do with

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Speaker 5: painting preparation, paint selection, those sorts of things probably not

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Speaker 5: going to give you a lot of help in terms

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Speaker 5: But once you've made your color choice, we can certainly

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Speaker 5: help with the technical advice around getting a really good

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Speaker 5: now in terms of this product goes with this one

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Speaker 5: to achieve an end result. And I'm thinking about a

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Speaker 5: job that I finally got finished this week, timber post

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Speaker 5: that needed to be replaced. It was a laminated post,

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Speaker 5: Then I sanded the original primer back and then I

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Speaker 5: a very good morning.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning for you. Good morning, my first time calling.

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Speaker 5: Nice of you to call, nice to hear from you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Hey, look, I want to see

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Speaker 6: and help me. I've got one of these prefabricated cabins

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a couple of things there. So obviously it's

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Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, And how extensive is the rotted part,

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Speaker 6: But on the other corners, it's just a little bit

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Speaker 5: I mean sometimes the challenge with fetching out some rot

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Speaker 5: So as long as it's well supported and there's a

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Speaker 5: wonder whether, if it's like a box corner, for all

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Speaker 5: chances are the timber that you're going to replace it

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Speaker 5: And then my go to in terms of those sorts

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Speaker 5: kind of just figured out the proportions and extruded them out,

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Speaker 5: mixed this together and it's it's has some adhesive qualities

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Speaker 5: get that from the Razine shops.

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Speaker 6: That's fantastic. Yeah, thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's not unfair to say you would

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Speaker 5: irony at the fact that the deck that I built

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Speaker 5: probably ninety percent of those, are actually still in really

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Speaker 5: the number to call. You can text through as well

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Speaker 5: if you've got a comment or a question. That's nine

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Speaker 5: two nine two is ZBZB please text through your painting

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Speaker 5: questions for Jay, our painting expert, and we'll be back

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Speaker 5: to talk to Trevor straight after the break.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting was ceiling, fixing with feds, or wondering

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Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter Wolfgavicle,

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Speaker 5: This is an interesting text that's just come through and

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Speaker 5: I'll dig into it. But hey, Peter w thank you

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Speaker 5: very much. Is there an available database of renovation projects?

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Speaker 5: Looking to use it to estimate a reno project cost

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Speaker 5: and duration? To the best of my knowledge, there isn't

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Speaker 5: one guy that does provide a truckload of data around

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Speaker 5: construction and so on. He's been interviewed, I think on

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Speaker 5: this station a couple of times. Mike Blackburn out of

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Speaker 5: christ Church does analysis of particularly building consents and that

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Speaker 5: but check him out online. He's very very active online

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Speaker 5: with a lot of really really good information. So Mike

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Speaker 5: Blackburn out of christ Church might have something, but that's

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Speaker 5: a I'll bear that in mind. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: there is something like that. Trevor, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 7: Yes, good morning, Peace, from gislon good morning. Thank you

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Speaker 7: for your excellent program. Mate, you're revelating to all other

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Speaker 7: people who haven't got too much knowledge about building.

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Speaker 5: Mate.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my problem is that when we bought our house

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Speaker 7: house was fitted out with this quest Ducks poly beautiy

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Speaker 7: in pipe providing water to various parts of the house. Well,

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Speaker 7: since then we've had five failings of the pipe, which

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Speaker 7: is meant you've had to call in a plumber to

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Speaker 7: come and replace the pipe. And talking to the Laiser

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Speaker 7: plumbing boys, they tell me that there's hundreds and thousands

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Speaker 7: And you know we're pensioners, part up pensioners having to

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Speaker 7: softening up the brawboards around the hot water cylinder where

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Speaker 7: the spare bedroom and we've got writing billboards. And also

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Speaker 7: the last plumber reported black mold and he said that's up.

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Speaker 7: It's pretty toxic and get onto it and get to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well our house is are lockwood, so we don't

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Speaker 8: Good morning pig. I've got a nineteen forty nine house

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Speaker 5: Oh well, look there'll be lots of scaffolders working out

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Speaker 8: And what about safety gear for them to wear them

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Speaker 5: No, I don't believe that you should be supplying any

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Speaker 5: No, it's look, I've got one project that I'm supervising

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Speaker 5: on good luck Ellison sounds thank you very much for

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Speaker 5: all of very best to you. You take care, take care.

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Speaker 5: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call Judy.

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Speaker 5: Good morning to.

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Speaker 9: You, Oh, good morning, thanks for calling back. I'm going

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Speaker 9: And do you have to have scaffolding around the house

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Speaker 5: Not necessarily? And again, like as a homeowner, I guess

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Speaker 9: Well, it seems they've been in the business for since

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Speaker 5: On the seilant right, So is it a concrete tolerance

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Speaker 9: They're spraying to get rid of the like it a

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Speaker 5: Again, No, I mean typically it's up to you, of course,

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Speaker 5: just just a metal roof, okay. And what are you seeing?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Yes, okay, yeah, definitely on one side they say that

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Speaker 5: Okay. So they're going to come along, they're going to

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Speaker 9: Well, we didn't actually explain it. He just said, you know,

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Speaker 5: Sure, that's that's to be expected.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and five hundred dollars. That's a reasonable price.

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Speaker 5: it's five hundred dollars for them to co and treat

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and look like, sorry, I don't have to be there.

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Speaker 5: They said, no, that's fair enough. Look, I tell you what,

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Speaker 5: of someone who has had the work done recently, so

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00:24:34,535 --> 00:24:37,295
Speaker 5: it might be someone like yourself that they did a

432
00:24:37,415 --> 00:24:40,335
Speaker 5: job for three weeks ago, and say, look, could you

433
00:24:40,375 --> 00:24:42,975
Speaker 5: give me a number of someone that is happy to

434
00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,975
Speaker 5: talk to me about your work? And then you wring

435
00:24:46,015 --> 00:24:49,295
Speaker 5: them and you go, Hi, it's you know, duty here,

436
00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:51,815
Speaker 5: and I've got this company coming to do the work.

437
00:24:51,855 --> 00:24:54,055
Speaker 5: They did your job a little while ago. Were you

438
00:24:54,095 --> 00:24:54,655
Speaker 5: happy with it?

439
00:24:55,615 --> 00:24:57,535
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, that's fine.

440
00:24:57,615 --> 00:25:00,215
Speaker 5: Yeah I would do that. But otherwise, and look, it

441
00:25:00,295 --> 00:25:03,335
Speaker 5: is actually important to do it because that like and

442
00:25:03,655 --> 00:25:06,695
Speaker 5: growth will actually start to degrade the coating on the

443
00:25:06,735 --> 00:25:09,215
Speaker 5: iron roof, on the color steel roof or whatever.

444
00:25:09,295 --> 00:25:13,415
Speaker 9: But they have given me explain that, Okay, it's worth doing.

445
00:25:13,975 --> 00:25:14,775
Speaker 11: Yeah, oh I know that.

446
00:25:15,015 --> 00:25:16,215
Speaker 9: Well, thanks for your leisure.

447
00:25:16,335 --> 00:25:19,135
Speaker 5: Nice to talk to you all the best. And I

448
00:25:19,175 --> 00:25:22,535
Speaker 5: don't I guess as consumers, As customers, we shouldn't be

449
00:25:22,535 --> 00:25:25,295
Speaker 5: shy about saying, hey, can I talk to someone who

450
00:25:25,335 --> 00:25:29,335
Speaker 5: you did a job for recently? And you know, if

451
00:25:29,375 --> 00:25:34,055
Speaker 5: a contract is reluctant to hand out a number or

452
00:25:34,055 --> 00:25:36,255
Speaker 5: something like that, it might take them a day or so.

453
00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:39,055
Speaker 5: Maybe they'll ring someone and say, look, do you mind

454
00:25:39,095 --> 00:25:41,895
Speaker 5: if in this case, Judy gives you a call to

455
00:25:41,935 --> 00:25:45,735
Speaker 5: talk about the roof treatment. They might want to give

456
00:25:45,775 --> 00:25:50,375
Speaker 5: the get their permission first, or they might either way.

457
00:25:50,735 --> 00:25:53,575
Speaker 5: I think that if you're working with a contractor and

458
00:25:53,575 --> 00:25:56,335
Speaker 5: they're reluctant to let you talk to someone who they've

459
00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:59,575
Speaker 5: worked for previously. Then that's probably a little bit of

460
00:25:59,615 --> 00:26:02,095
Speaker 5: a red flag around how the job's going to go

461
00:26:02,135 --> 00:26:04,655
Speaker 5: at your place as well. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

462
00:26:04,735 --> 00:26:07,375
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number we need to take a break.

463
00:26:07,415 --> 00:26:09,895
Speaker 5: Should we do that? Let's do that, Paul, we'll talk

464
00:26:09,935 --> 00:26:10,975
Speaker 5: to you straight after the break.

465
00:26:11,575 --> 00:26:13,895
Speaker 2: A squeaky door or it's squeakie floor.

466
00:26:14,095 --> 00:26:17,415
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcap, the resident builder

467
00:26:17,655 --> 00:26:18,615
Speaker 1: on Newstalk SEB.

468
00:26:20,175 --> 00:26:22,415
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking back to last week where I got

469
00:26:22,415 --> 00:26:25,015
Speaker 5: on my hobby horse and I rode it into the

470
00:26:25,055 --> 00:26:28,535
Speaker 5: sunset about that article about that was on the front

471
00:26:28,535 --> 00:26:33,335
Speaker 5: page of the Herald around council telling villa owner that

472
00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:37,415
Speaker 5: they needed to remove double glazing because it didn't comply

473
00:26:37,575 --> 00:26:41,175
Speaker 5: with heritage standards and that's a breach of resource consent ETCA,

474
00:26:41,215 --> 00:26:44,015
Speaker 5: except or they needed to get a retrospective resource consent

475
00:26:44,215 --> 00:26:47,775
Speaker 5: for the work that they'd done. Now, frankly, it was misleading.

476
00:26:48,095 --> 00:26:51,735
Speaker 5: We've been through that in the sense that council don't

477
00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:54,135
Speaker 5: have an issue with double glazing. They have an issue

478
00:26:54,135 --> 00:27:01,175
Speaker 5: with unsympathetic aluminium joinery being installed into heritage into a

479
00:27:01,215 --> 00:27:03,895
Speaker 5: heritage building. Right, So the issue is not the double glazing,

480
00:27:04,175 --> 00:27:06,975
Speaker 5: very clear about that. It's not the double glaze. It

481
00:27:07,055 --> 00:27:10,455
Speaker 5: is absolutely about the way in which they went about

482
00:27:10,695 --> 00:27:12,855
Speaker 5: installing the double glazing and the frames that they went

483
00:27:12,895 --> 00:27:16,335
Speaker 5: into anyway, and then I was thinking, shivers, I've done this.

484
00:27:17,695 --> 00:27:21,695
Speaker 5: So I did a renovation a couple of years ago,

485
00:27:21,855 --> 00:27:24,615
Speaker 5: and we've put it together and put a feature up

486
00:27:24,695 --> 00:27:29,015
Speaker 5: on YouTube. So if you want to see what working

487
00:27:29,055 --> 00:27:31,935
Speaker 5: on double hung sash windows looks like in terms of

488
00:27:32,695 --> 00:27:36,775
Speaker 5: upgrading the glazing, repairing them, making sure they function again

489
00:27:36,855 --> 00:27:40,415
Speaker 5: for another hundred years, check out if you just go

490
00:27:40,455 --> 00:27:44,095
Speaker 5: to YouTube and go resident builder and then host project,

491
00:27:44,175 --> 00:27:47,895
Speaker 5: which is Huis, and search for one that says Heritage

492
00:27:47,935 --> 00:27:50,855
Speaker 5: meets hard Work, roof challenges and window upgrades. There's a

493
00:27:50,855 --> 00:27:54,335
Speaker 5: whole series of little videos about the renovation. There's all

494
00:27:54,415 --> 00:27:58,095
Speaker 5: sorts of videos there about installation and compliance and that

495
00:27:58,175 --> 00:27:59,935
Speaker 5: sort of thing. So there's a whole library that we're

496
00:27:59,935 --> 00:28:03,855
Speaker 5: putting together for you on YouTube. So search for resident builder,

497
00:28:04,775 --> 00:28:07,855
Speaker 5: find that there and then have a look through the video.

498
00:28:08,495 --> 00:28:11,415
Speaker 5: The one that's got me working on some double hung

499
00:28:11,455 --> 00:28:14,655
Speaker 5: sash windows is called Heritage meets hard Work, and it's

500
00:28:14,695 --> 00:28:16,215
Speaker 5: all the things that you need to do to get

501
00:28:16,215 --> 00:28:19,055
Speaker 5: your heritage house up to stand it. So hopefully there's

502
00:28:19,055 --> 00:28:21,375
Speaker 5: a little bit of insight into the fact that you

503
00:28:21,455 --> 00:28:26,455
Speaker 5: can actually quite successfully repair and maintain and keep your

504
00:28:26,455 --> 00:28:30,375
Speaker 5: classic timber joinery, as well as upg grading the the

505
00:28:31,815 --> 00:28:34,615
Speaker 5: glazing as well. Right he six forty one here at Newstalk,

506
00:28:34,655 --> 00:28:36,575
Speaker 5: said be paul A very good morning.

507
00:28:37,335 --> 00:28:43,335
Speaker 12: Oh, good morning, Peter. We'd redecorate in the house and

508
00:28:43,415 --> 00:28:48,015
Speaker 12: I bought an oak bed and inside as a temporary table.

509
00:28:48,095 --> 00:28:50,335
Speaker 12: It's been a bit weathered and I had a jar

510
00:28:50,495 --> 00:28:55,015
Speaker 12: of picks a peanut but steed and grain mix. It

511
00:28:55,135 --> 00:28:57,575
Speaker 12: tipped over and all oil went on the wood. It

512
00:28:57,615 --> 00:29:03,775
Speaker 12: made an awesome stain. It's been there for a while. Also,

513
00:29:04,455 --> 00:29:07,335
Speaker 12: years ago they started making plastic posts at Rammed and

514
00:29:07,415 --> 00:29:11,655
Speaker 12: better than they must have had little steel tips on

515
00:29:11,655 --> 00:29:15,535
Speaker 12: the end of them and are strong. And the thing

516
00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:19,895
Speaker 12: I just wondering, when are they going to make plastic girders,

517
00:29:20,055 --> 00:29:21,495
Speaker 12: even if they had a rod in the middle of

518
00:29:21,495 --> 00:29:22,295
Speaker 12: them or something like that.

519
00:29:24,575 --> 00:29:26,575
Speaker 5: I know, the plastic posts that you're talking about. If

520
00:29:26,615 --> 00:29:29,815
Speaker 5: it's the same thing, that's future post, which is a

521
00:29:29,895 --> 00:29:32,655
Speaker 5: really good end use for lots of types of soft

522
00:29:32,655 --> 00:29:37,135
Speaker 5: plastics can be recycled and made into those. I don't

523
00:29:37,135 --> 00:29:43,415
Speaker 5: believe they've got any sort of qualification, let's say, or

524
00:29:44,455 --> 00:29:46,975
Speaker 5: they don't comply in terms of the building code for

525
00:29:48,215 --> 00:29:51,495
Speaker 5: subfloor piles. But where they are fantastic, and i've seen

526
00:29:51,495 --> 00:29:53,855
Speaker 5: them down at field days for example, is you know

527
00:29:53,935 --> 00:29:56,535
Speaker 5: strain a posts than that. I think their intention was

528
00:29:56,575 --> 00:29:59,575
Speaker 5: that it would be a really good substitute for timber

529
00:29:59,615 --> 00:30:03,255
Speaker 5: posts in farming and agriculture. So certainly in terms of farming,

530
00:30:03,535 --> 00:30:07,215
Speaker 5: certainly in terms of on venue and that sort of thing,

531
00:30:07,255 --> 00:30:09,575
Speaker 5: it's great. And I've noticed that they've started to do

532
00:30:10,855 --> 00:30:13,615
Speaker 5: some retaining timbers as well, so heavier ones that you

533
00:30:13,615 --> 00:30:16,495
Speaker 5: could use for raised gardens and so on. So look,

534
00:30:16,495 --> 00:30:21,615
Speaker 5: it's a good option. Hello, I don't know that they've

535
00:30:21,655 --> 00:30:23,975
Speaker 5: tested them for the load bearing. That's in terms of

536
00:30:24,015 --> 00:30:26,935
Speaker 5: getting them compliant with the building code. I think there's

537
00:30:27,055 --> 00:30:29,295
Speaker 5: enough uses for them outside of that that will stick

538
00:30:29,295 --> 00:30:32,055
Speaker 5: to what we know and trust in terms of building.

539
00:30:32,135 --> 00:30:34,775
Speaker 5: But I mean, look, they're phenomenally strong. I've seen them,

540
00:30:34,775 --> 00:30:36,495
Speaker 5: and I've seen some of the stress testing on it.

541
00:30:36,815 --> 00:30:41,135
Speaker 5: They are phenomenal. But you know, it's just not there

542
00:30:41,135 --> 00:30:43,575
Speaker 5: in the building code at the moment. But really interesting

543
00:30:43,615 --> 00:30:46,455
Speaker 5: issue to raise. Actually, field days is craky. When's that?

544
00:30:47,735 --> 00:30:47,975
Speaker 6: I think?

545
00:30:47,975 --> 00:30:51,095
Speaker 5: I'm down there on the thirteenth of June. Starts on

546
00:30:51,175 --> 00:30:53,535
Speaker 5: the twelfth. I'm going to shoot down for the day.

547
00:30:54,735 --> 00:30:57,935
Speaker 5: Heaps to see lots of people to talk to. I've

548
00:30:57,975 --> 00:30:59,615
Speaker 5: only been going for the last couple of years, but

549
00:30:59,695 --> 00:31:03,215
Speaker 5: I really really enjoy it when i'm down there. Had

550
00:31:03,215 --> 00:31:07,015
Speaker 5: a fantastic day on Friday too, wandering through the Stark

551
00:31:08,135 --> 00:31:12,415
Speaker 5: factory looking at how you PVC windows are made. It

552
00:31:12,535 --> 00:31:14,895
Speaker 5: was really fantay. I'll tell you a bit more about

553
00:31:14,975 --> 00:31:17,415
Speaker 5: later on. Oh eight hundred eighteen eighty is the number

554
00:31:17,455 --> 00:31:21,655
Speaker 5: to call. Hey, Harry, good morning to you. Good morning, Harry.

555
00:31:21,695 --> 00:31:22,215
Speaker 13: How are you.

556
00:31:22,455 --> 00:31:24,935
Speaker 5: I'm very well, thanks, sir Bitter.

557
00:31:25,135 --> 00:31:28,175
Speaker 13: I've got a Brivy central heating system in my house.

558
00:31:28,575 --> 00:31:34,455
Speaker 13: It is a twenty kilover high efficiency MULTIPLEX series. Yeah,

559
00:31:34,615 --> 00:31:38,215
Speaker 13: built in two thousand and six, nineteen years ago, and

560
00:31:38,375 --> 00:31:42,135
Speaker 13: every two years they have to service the thing. Yes,

561
00:31:42,255 --> 00:31:45,655
Speaker 13: So when they did it this time, the man said

562
00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:50,015
Speaker 13: that now you have to replace the Fenness, right, that

563
00:31:50,215 --> 00:31:53,775
Speaker 13: is what's available. So I said, you know that's only

564
00:31:53,895 --> 00:31:57,495
Speaker 13: nineteen years old. Oh, they said, we have to replace

565
00:31:57,575 --> 00:32:01,455
Speaker 13: it and to make the meta worse. He said that

566
00:32:01,535 --> 00:32:04,815
Speaker 13: where you got the ceiling entry point, we can't do

567
00:32:04,895 --> 00:32:07,935
Speaker 13: it from there. You have to hear to have a

568
00:32:07,935 --> 00:32:12,335
Speaker 13: new entry point made near the where the fairness is. Right,

569
00:32:13,575 --> 00:32:18,335
Speaker 13: So does the fairness only last nineteen years?

570
00:32:20,015 --> 00:32:23,535
Speaker 5: From my own experience, I'm not particularly familiar with them.

571
00:32:23,895 --> 00:32:26,615
Speaker 5: I think that you know, for something that I guess

572
00:32:26,695 --> 00:32:30,135
Speaker 5: when it's on, like over winter, gets a lot of use,

573
00:32:30,735 --> 00:32:34,935
Speaker 5: then yes, I can imagine that maybe it has reached

574
00:32:34,975 --> 00:32:38,135
Speaker 5: the end of its serviceable life. The challenge, too, is

575
00:32:38,175 --> 00:32:41,415
Speaker 5: that it might be serviceable if you could get parts,

576
00:32:41,455 --> 00:32:46,575
Speaker 5: but not all manufacturers provide parts beyond a certain time,

577
00:32:46,895 --> 00:32:51,535
Speaker 5: which you know is an issue, right, And I think

578
00:32:51,615 --> 00:32:54,895
Speaker 5: there is talk about some government legislation that will mean

579
00:32:54,935 --> 00:32:57,375
Speaker 5: that if you're going to bring a product into the country,

580
00:32:57,815 --> 00:33:01,215
Speaker 5: you're going to have to provide service for it's It

581
00:33:01,255 --> 00:33:03,975
Speaker 5: shouldn't be acceptable. This is just a general thing, not

582
00:33:04,015 --> 00:33:06,695
Speaker 5: necessarily related to what you're talking about. But you know,

583
00:33:07,015 --> 00:33:11,255
Speaker 5: the frustration is, Let's say you buy a toaster, for example,

584
00:33:11,575 --> 00:33:13,655
Speaker 5: and after two years the spring goes in it, and

585
00:33:13,695 --> 00:33:15,695
Speaker 5: you ring the importer and you say, can I have

586
00:33:15,735 --> 00:33:17,495
Speaker 5: a new spring? And they go no, we don't sell

587
00:33:17,535 --> 00:33:20,055
Speaker 5: parts for that, and so the whole thing's rubbish and

588
00:33:20,295 --> 00:33:23,015
Speaker 5: you've been it after a short period of time. Whether

589
00:33:23,095 --> 00:33:25,575
Speaker 5: or not that applies to something that's twenty years old,

590
00:33:26,015 --> 00:33:28,055
Speaker 5: The only thing I could suggest, Harry, is that I'm

591
00:33:28,095 --> 00:33:31,615
Speaker 5: sure there are more than one provider of servicing for

592
00:33:31,655 --> 00:33:35,735
Speaker 5: these units, right, And I would go to another supplier

593
00:33:36,415 --> 00:33:39,335
Speaker 5: or another service provider and say could you please come

594
00:33:39,335 --> 00:33:41,695
Speaker 5: and assess it, and they might say to you, actually,

595
00:33:41,735 --> 00:33:43,695
Speaker 5: you know, we've got some parts for that, and we'll

596
00:33:43,775 --> 00:33:46,535
Speaker 5: keep it going for the next five years. So I

597
00:33:46,575 --> 00:33:49,495
Speaker 5: think my advice would be try and find another contractor

598
00:33:49,495 --> 00:33:51,175
Speaker 5: who could come and have a look at it. You

599
00:33:51,295 --> 00:33:54,935
Speaker 5: may well find that you get a slightly different response

600
00:33:54,935 --> 00:33:57,775
Speaker 5: from them, but otherwise, yes, these things do wear out.

601
00:33:58,775 --> 00:34:02,135
Speaker 5: Ventilation systems, heating systems have an end of life. Be

602
00:34:02,255 --> 00:34:04,615
Speaker 5: nice more than twenty years. But it may well be

603
00:34:04,815 --> 00:34:08,415
Speaker 5: that twenty years is reasonable. But get two people to

604
00:34:08,495 --> 00:34:11,015
Speaker 5: give you advice on that would be my advice. Oh,

605
00:34:11,095 --> 00:34:13,055
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

606
00:34:13,095 --> 00:34:15,295
Speaker 5: Thanks for you call Harry. We'll talk to Grant after

607
00:34:15,295 --> 00:34:16,255
Speaker 5: the break.

608
00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:20,135
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

609
00:34:20,175 --> 00:34:23,295
Speaker 1: builder with Peter WOLFCAF call Oh eight hundred eighty ten

610
00:34:23,295 --> 00:34:24,695
Speaker 1: eighty Youth Talk ZB.

611
00:34:26,895 --> 00:34:29,575
Speaker 5: Must be my tune. OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty

612
00:34:29,695 --> 00:34:33,215
Speaker 5: is the number to call. Remember we've got Jay from Razine,

613
00:34:33,255 --> 00:34:37,695
Speaker 5: our painting expert, available to take your text questions at

614
00:34:37,735 --> 00:34:41,575
Speaker 5: around seven twenty five this morning. So any specific painting

615
00:34:41,695 --> 00:34:45,895
Speaker 5: questions might be about paint as in the actual paint,

616
00:34:45,935 --> 00:34:50,375
Speaker 5: the right type of paint to use in the right situation, application, preparation,

617
00:34:50,855 --> 00:34:52,855
Speaker 5: those sorts of things. So fleck through those texts to

618
00:34:53,015 --> 00:34:55,855
Speaker 5: nine to nine two. Jay from Razine will be with

619
00:34:55,935 --> 00:34:59,015
Speaker 5: us at seven twenty five and a very good warning

620
00:34:59,175 --> 00:35:00,935
Speaker 5: to you, Grant. How are you doing?

621
00:35:02,015 --> 00:35:02,215
Speaker 14: Yeah?

622
00:35:02,255 --> 00:35:05,935
Speaker 15: Good, thanks Peter. I've got a one challenge. I've just

623
00:35:05,975 --> 00:35:11,415
Speaker 15: built two brand new townhouses Dupilus Monoclis plaster down the bottom.

624
00:35:11,535 --> 00:35:16,735
Speaker 15: The top floor is new or aluminium platting, and the

625
00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:20,055
Speaker 15: platting is a gray for ice are quite dark. When

626
00:35:20,095 --> 00:35:23,535
Speaker 15: you're outside the townhouses, you hear a constant cracking, which

627
00:35:23,815 --> 00:35:27,375
Speaker 15: I guess is expansion contraction in the sunlight or not

628
00:35:27,455 --> 00:35:31,135
Speaker 15: even sunlight, just in the in the day and inside

629
00:35:31,455 --> 00:35:33,935
Speaker 15: it sounds like you've got fire where it's going off

630
00:35:34,015 --> 00:35:37,175
Speaker 15: outside in terms of the noise, and when I talk

631
00:35:37,215 --> 00:35:40,815
Speaker 15: to my architect who's they specify the product and try

632
00:35:40,815 --> 00:35:44,495
Speaker 15: to chase up with the manufacturer, there's no engagement on this.

633
00:35:45,295 --> 00:35:48,935
Speaker 15: And is it a implementation challenge I've got or is

634
00:35:48,975 --> 00:35:51,535
Speaker 15: this a consequence of the product that's been specified.

635
00:35:53,255 --> 00:35:57,495
Speaker 5: All metal expands and contracts, right, whether it's aluminum or

636
00:35:57,895 --> 00:36:02,215
Speaker 5: zincaloom or whatever, And so certainly I've heard it where

637
00:36:02,415 --> 00:36:06,015
Speaker 5: roofs will expand and contract and as they do, so

638
00:36:06,095 --> 00:36:10,775
Speaker 5: you you'll hear a noise. I've had it on metal

639
00:36:10,815 --> 00:36:13,895
Speaker 5: cladding as a not aluminium, but metal cladding on the

640
00:36:13,935 --> 00:36:19,135
Speaker 5: exterior of a building, and I think from my experience

641
00:36:19,215 --> 00:36:22,815
Speaker 5: pretty much all of the cladding manufacturers who do various

642
00:36:22,855 --> 00:36:25,615
Speaker 5: types of this type of cladding will say you can

643
00:36:25,695 --> 00:36:29,375
Speaker 5: expect that there will be expansion and contraction and sometimes

644
00:36:29,375 --> 00:36:34,375
Speaker 5: that generates a noise. So it's not uncommon. And I

645
00:36:34,415 --> 00:36:38,335
Speaker 5: guess if it's a darker color and it's facing north

646
00:36:38,535 --> 00:36:41,735
Speaker 5: and it's a particularly long hot summer, then I think

647
00:36:41,815 --> 00:36:45,415
Speaker 5: you'll you'll that will be more noticeable. There's also ways

648
00:36:45,415 --> 00:36:48,415
Speaker 5: of ensuring that you like. For example, it's really important

649
00:36:48,935 --> 00:36:51,495
Speaker 5: with the installation of some of these systems, and each

650
00:36:51,575 --> 00:36:55,295
Speaker 5: system is different, right, so I can only make broad comments,

651
00:36:55,335 --> 00:36:58,135
Speaker 5: but I know for some systems they work on the

652
00:36:58,175 --> 00:37:01,695
Speaker 5: basis that the actual cladding, the bit that you see

653
00:37:02,295 --> 00:37:05,495
Speaker 5: is while it's fixed, it's not fastened, so there is

654
00:37:05,655 --> 00:37:09,735
Speaker 5: room for to move. Other systems where they're they're direct

655
00:37:09,775 --> 00:37:14,135
Speaker 5: fixed in you'll have tension and compression because they're fixed

656
00:37:14,135 --> 00:37:17,335
Speaker 5: at either end, and you'll have some movement in between there,

657
00:37:17,335 --> 00:37:22,335
Speaker 5: and that can generate some noise. These So it was

658
00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:25,775
Speaker 5: specified by the architect you've had it installed. Was it

659
00:37:25,815 --> 00:37:30,895
Speaker 5: installed by the contractor provided by the supplier of the

660
00:37:30,935 --> 00:37:33,495
Speaker 5: product or was it a separate contractor who did it.

661
00:37:34,335 --> 00:37:37,335
Speaker 15: A separate contractor did it licensed building practitioner?

662
00:37:37,535 --> 00:37:39,975
Speaker 5: Okay? Do you know whether they did it in accordance

663
00:37:40,015 --> 00:37:42,535
Speaker 5: with the specifications from the product supplier.

664
00:37:43,775 --> 00:37:46,455
Speaker 15: The contract required them to do so, and they receive

665
00:37:46,535 --> 00:37:48,135
Speaker 15: the specifications from the architect.

666
00:37:49,415 --> 00:37:50,575
Speaker 5: But did they do it?

667
00:37:51,655 --> 00:37:52,135
Speaker 7: I don't know.

668
00:37:52,615 --> 00:37:55,935
Speaker 5: Okay, that's that's going to be your first thing to

669
00:37:55,975 --> 00:37:59,295
Speaker 5: look at, right. So, and this is again this is

670
00:37:59,295 --> 00:38:04,175
Speaker 5: a general comments. As contractors, we might get specifications for

671
00:38:04,215 --> 00:38:08,655
Speaker 5: all sorts of products and and like you know, doing

672
00:38:08,695 --> 00:38:10,695
Speaker 5: your earfix model as a kid, you don't always read

673
00:38:10,735 --> 00:38:14,135
Speaker 5: the instructions to be blunt. So I would go back

674
00:38:14,175 --> 00:38:16,695
Speaker 5: in the first instance to the person that installed it

675
00:38:17,215 --> 00:38:20,175
Speaker 5: and say, did you install it exactly as per the

676
00:38:20,215 --> 00:38:24,175
Speaker 5: instructions and as per the specifications, And then if they're

677
00:38:24,215 --> 00:38:26,455
Speaker 5: saying that it is, then maybe you have someone come

678
00:38:26,495 --> 00:38:30,095
Speaker 5: and independently check that in fact they have done the

679
00:38:30,135 --> 00:38:33,975
Speaker 5: installation correctly, because again, and I'm not suggesting it's the

680
00:38:34,015 --> 00:38:37,695
Speaker 5: case in your specific instance, but I do know of

681
00:38:37,975 --> 00:38:42,655
Speaker 5: situations where a contractor has not followed the instructions, has

682
00:38:42,735 --> 00:38:45,495
Speaker 5: installed the product, has installed it on the wrong type

683
00:38:45,495 --> 00:38:48,095
Speaker 5: of bat and use the wrong type of fixing those

684
00:38:48,135 --> 00:38:51,655
Speaker 5: sorts of things, and it's been effectively non compliant as

685
00:38:51,655 --> 00:38:54,215
Speaker 5: a result. So a little bit of detective work, I'm

686
00:38:54,255 --> 00:38:59,215
Speaker 5: afraid on your part and check that first, maybe get

687
00:38:59,215 --> 00:39:01,935
Speaker 5: someone else who's experience with the system to come out

688
00:39:02,015 --> 00:39:05,255
Speaker 5: and have a look and determine whether there's any initial faults.

689
00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:10,375
Speaker 5: And then, as per the article that was in the

690
00:39:10,375 --> 00:39:13,775
Speaker 5: paper yesterday, I think the comment from the supplier there was,

691
00:39:13,895 --> 00:39:17,135
Speaker 5: you know, we we do know that it does expand

692
00:39:17,175 --> 00:39:20,415
Speaker 5: and contract and that causes noise. Most of that noise

693
00:39:20,495 --> 00:39:23,295
Speaker 5: is within a certain tolerance level. Right, So if you

694
00:39:23,335 --> 00:39:26,175
Speaker 5: feel it's outside of that tolerance level, then you'd go

695
00:39:26,295 --> 00:39:29,295
Speaker 5: back to the installer and to the manufacturer and go, hey,

696
00:39:29,375 --> 00:39:31,695
Speaker 5: let's come out, let's do some testing and see what

697
00:39:31,895 --> 00:39:35,695
Speaker 5: is causing the issues. Okay, yeah, good approach, Thank you,

698
00:39:35,695 --> 00:39:38,575
Speaker 5: good luck, all right, all the best. But first stoppers

699
00:39:38,775 --> 00:39:40,175
Speaker 5: is to go back and talk to the guy that

700
00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:42,735
Speaker 5: installed it and go how'd you do it? And did

701
00:39:42,815 --> 00:39:43,535
Speaker 5: you do it correctly?

702
00:39:44,775 --> 00:39:44,975
Speaker 2: Great?

703
00:39:45,095 --> 00:39:47,535
Speaker 5: All right, all the best, Thanks a lot, take care.

704
00:39:48,615 --> 00:39:51,215
Speaker 5: And I say this because you know, increasingly, lots of

705
00:39:51,255 --> 00:39:55,775
Speaker 5: systems that we use in construction are you know, they've

706
00:39:55,815 --> 00:39:59,695
Speaker 5: been specifically designed to perform in a particular way when

707
00:39:59,815 --> 00:40:02,775
Speaker 5: you build it as per the specification. So you know,

708
00:40:02,815 --> 00:40:06,815
Speaker 5: if the boffins that have developed cladding system or a

709
00:40:06,975 --> 00:40:10,215
Speaker 5: bracing system or whatever type of system that we might

710
00:40:10,255 --> 00:40:14,735
Speaker 5: have in terms of house building, there'll be you know,

711
00:40:14,895 --> 00:40:20,215
Speaker 5: specific fastness, specific types of brackets, specific distances, all of

712
00:40:20,255 --> 00:40:24,895
Speaker 5: these things. All of these tolerances are developed during the

713
00:40:24,935 --> 00:40:29,255
Speaker 5: product development and then that's included in the specifications and

714
00:40:29,295 --> 00:40:32,855
Speaker 5: the installation guides, and the expectation is that then when

715
00:40:32,895 --> 00:40:35,375
Speaker 5: it gets to site, that it's done as per the

716
00:40:35,415 --> 00:40:39,335
Speaker 5: specifications and to be fair. It's not uncommon to find

717
00:40:39,375 --> 00:40:42,775
Speaker 5: that products have been installed not as per the specification,

718
00:40:43,175 --> 00:40:45,615
Speaker 5: and it's no surprises then that we might have issues

719
00:40:45,615 --> 00:40:48,735
Speaker 5: with it. Right, We'll continue talking all things building and

720
00:40:48,815 --> 00:40:52,095
Speaker 5: construction after the news at seven o'clock. If you'd like

721
00:40:52,135 --> 00:40:53,815
Speaker 5: to join us pon us now, oh eight hundred and

722
00:40:53,815 --> 00:40:56,455
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty, feel free to send your texts to

723
00:40:56,535 --> 00:40:59,615
Speaker 5: nine two niney two and remember Jay our painting expert.

724
00:40:59,855 --> 00:41:01,015
Speaker 5: At around seven twenty five.

725
00:41:03,135 --> 00:41:05,775
Speaker 16: I want to be nowhere, but here with it now,

726
00:41:07,175 --> 00:41:13,255
Speaker 16: Liby one in this speech.

727
00:41:12,375 --> 00:41:16,135
Speaker 1: Measure twice God was but maybe called Pete first, Peter

728
00:41:16,255 --> 00:41:18,615
Speaker 1: Wolfkev the resident builder news talks.

729
00:41:18,615 --> 00:41:21,255
Speaker 5: That'd be your news talks. That'd be welcome back to

730
00:41:21,295 --> 00:41:24,655
Speaker 5: the show. It is almost seven minutes after seven. Remember

731
00:41:24,695 --> 00:41:27,815
Speaker 5: around seven twenty five this morning, Jay our painting expert

732
00:41:27,855 --> 00:41:30,095
Speaker 5: from Razine will be joining us. So if you've got

733
00:41:30,135 --> 00:41:34,375
Speaker 5: any specific painting questions, feel free to text those through.

734
00:41:34,975 --> 00:41:36,975
Speaker 5: Thank you too to a number of people that text

735
00:41:36,975 --> 00:41:41,135
Speaker 5: through with actually really simple and useful solutions. For one

736
00:41:41,175 --> 00:41:44,615
Speaker 5: of our earlier callers, that was Trevor, he was talking

737
00:41:44,655 --> 00:41:47,175
Speaker 5: about the fact that they've actually it turns out they're

738
00:41:47,175 --> 00:41:51,095
Speaker 5: in a Lockwood Home, so you know circa sometime late

739
00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:55,295
Speaker 5: nineteen seventies early or eighties roughly, and it has a

740
00:41:56,015 --> 00:42:00,815
Speaker 5: plumbing as in a piping system called Duck's Quest. It's

741
00:42:01,335 --> 00:42:06,215
Speaker 5: well known for failures, and I think it's not un

742
00:42:06,615 --> 00:42:09,935
Speaker 5: to say that almost everyone who has had it installed

743
00:42:10,055 --> 00:42:11,975
Speaker 5: or it was in their house as part of the

744
00:42:11,975 --> 00:42:14,855
Speaker 5: new build or innovation, has had problems with it. So

745
00:42:14,895 --> 00:42:19,495
Speaker 5: a couple of people have suggested, well, here's a good one.

746
00:42:19,575 --> 00:42:22,215
Speaker 5: Lockwood's packed the wall out fifty mili overlay with matching

747
00:42:22,255 --> 00:42:24,935
Speaker 5: timberge and then just move the bath. Done it a

748
00:42:25,015 --> 00:42:28,655
Speaker 5: couple of times. It's easy enough. I thought that was

749
00:42:28,815 --> 00:42:33,855
Speaker 5: very good. Someone asking did the previous owner know about that? Well,

750
00:42:34,055 --> 00:42:35,575
Speaker 5: I think he's owned the house for a number of

751
00:42:35,695 --> 00:42:38,895
Speaker 5: years twenty twelve. I mean, look, any liability would be

752
00:42:38,935 --> 00:42:43,295
Speaker 5: long past, and I think too the disclosure duty to

753
00:42:43,375 --> 00:42:47,695
Speaker 5: disclose was probably quite different in twenty twelve than it

754
00:42:47,775 --> 00:42:50,695
Speaker 5: might be today in terms of real estate. Thanks for

755
00:42:50,735 --> 00:42:55,175
Speaker 5: the advice Rey the Ducks or Quest Ducks pipe failure.

756
00:42:55,175 --> 00:42:58,055
Speaker 5: Our plumber said that if we ever wanted to sell

757
00:42:58,095 --> 00:43:00,495
Speaker 5: our house, we'd have to inform the buyer that the

758
00:43:00,535 --> 00:43:04,695
Speaker 5: house still has some of that ducks in it. Yeah,

759
00:43:04,735 --> 00:43:07,175
Speaker 5: I tend to agree. It'll be that sort of thing

760
00:43:07,175 --> 00:43:09,375
Speaker 5: that if the real estate agent sits down with you

761
00:43:10,175 --> 00:43:12,615
Speaker 5: when they do their sale and purchase agreement or when

762
00:43:12,975 --> 00:43:15,215
Speaker 5: they you've got a contract with them, they will say

763
00:43:15,215 --> 00:43:17,615
Speaker 5: to you, is there anything about the house that you

764
00:43:17,655 --> 00:43:19,855
Speaker 5: need to disclose? And if you are aware and you

765
00:43:19,935 --> 00:43:22,375
Speaker 5: choose not to disclose it, then you could be held

766
00:43:22,495 --> 00:43:26,575
Speaker 5: liable for that. I understand later on. So yeah, if

767
00:43:26,695 --> 00:43:29,815
Speaker 5: you know it's a problem, then you have to disclose

768
00:43:29,855 --> 00:43:32,575
Speaker 5: the fact that it's it is a problem. Or if

769
00:43:32,575 --> 00:43:35,175
Speaker 5: it was a problem and you've fixed it, then that's great.

770
00:43:35,815 --> 00:43:38,775
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty eighty is that number to call?

771
00:43:38,895 --> 00:43:40,575
Speaker 5: Don A very good morning to you.

772
00:43:41,535 --> 00:43:44,095
Speaker 16: Yes, good morning to you, Peter. I was on your

773
00:43:44,135 --> 00:43:47,455
Speaker 16: show a couple of weeks ago talking about our central districts.

774
00:43:48,855 --> 00:43:54,615
Speaker 5: And online and it looked like a fantastic event.

775
00:43:55,735 --> 00:43:57,775
Speaker 16: Yes it did. We got eight hundred people through the

776
00:43:57,815 --> 00:44:00,495
Speaker 16: door wow to the event, and we've got a huge

777
00:44:00,495 --> 00:44:04,135
Speaker 16: crowd watching the main event, which is the wood turning competition,

778
00:44:04,335 --> 00:44:07,215
Speaker 16: and we had eighteen wood turning took part and there

779
00:44:07,255 --> 00:44:10,935
Speaker 16: were three heats and the person that person that won

780
00:44:11,015 --> 00:44:13,815
Speaker 16: in the final turn the bowl out in three and

781
00:44:13,855 --> 00:44:15,055
Speaker 16: a half minutes.

782
00:44:16,215 --> 00:44:20,095
Speaker 5: Three minutes thirty seconds for a bowl that had impressive that.

783
00:44:20,255 --> 00:44:25,535
Speaker 16: It was impressive, and that included you have to take

784
00:44:25,535 --> 00:44:27,255
Speaker 16: them the inside of the bottle and then you go

785
00:44:27,615 --> 00:44:29,455
Speaker 16: turn it over into the upside and so forth. So

786
00:44:29,775 --> 00:44:32,655
Speaker 16: we'll be syvesa. But yeah, no, it was a really

787
00:44:32,695 --> 00:44:34,415
Speaker 16: good event. And we're going to run the game next

788
00:44:34,495 --> 00:44:37,495
Speaker 16: year on the seventeenth and May, which will be twelve months.

789
00:44:37,695 --> 00:44:42,375
Speaker 16: And yeah, it was really very popular and it's surprising

790
00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:44,695
Speaker 16: how many people came in and wanted to have a

791
00:44:44,735 --> 00:44:45,095
Speaker 16: look at it.

792
00:44:45,135 --> 00:44:45,295
Speaker 12: You know.

793
00:44:45,335 --> 00:44:47,015
Speaker 16: It was really the sweet thing. Really. I think that

794
00:44:47,055 --> 00:44:47,695
Speaker 16: brought the people in.

795
00:44:48,735 --> 00:44:51,735
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, because actually I was going to ask

796
00:44:52,055 --> 00:44:54,615
Speaker 5: in terms of like okay, so you know I could

797
00:44:54,655 --> 00:44:57,495
Speaker 5: bash something out super fast, right, but it'll be rubbish.

798
00:44:58,015 --> 00:45:01,655
Speaker 5: There is there a bit of a it's got to

799
00:45:01,655 --> 00:45:04,015
Speaker 5: be at least half way reasonable in terms of quality.

800
00:45:04,815 --> 00:45:09,055
Speaker 16: Oh yes, in judgment and it you know, right, you

801
00:45:09,135 --> 00:45:10,935
Speaker 16: turn the body out and it's so much for becoming

802
00:45:10,935 --> 00:45:14,095
Speaker 16: off fairs, but of course it's a there's the shape

803
00:45:14,095 --> 00:45:16,175
Speaker 16: of the ball comes into consideration by the judge and

804
00:45:16,215 --> 00:45:19,775
Speaker 16: also the consistency through the thickness and all that. They

805
00:45:19,775 --> 00:45:21,575
Speaker 16: get points off for all of that, so it's got

806
00:45:21,615 --> 00:45:23,375
Speaker 16: to be a reasonable sort of ball that comes off

807
00:45:23,375 --> 00:45:23,535
Speaker 16: of it.

808
00:45:23,655 --> 00:45:23,855
Speaker 2: Yeah.

809
00:45:23,935 --> 00:45:27,295
Speaker 5: Yeah, And they're all using the same size stock, aren't they.

810
00:45:28,055 --> 00:45:31,255
Speaker 16: Yes, Yeah, yes, yes, they went through with it. I

811
00:45:31,255 --> 00:45:35,295
Speaker 16: think it was seventy five millimeters what by one hundred

812
00:45:35,295 --> 00:45:37,815
Speaker 16: and fifty millimeters and it was and all the blinks

813
00:45:37,815 --> 00:45:39,535
Speaker 16: were the same. It was mecro carp Yeah.

814
00:45:39,735 --> 00:45:43,975
Speaker 5: Nice, nice, look. I think it's a fabulous event. And

815
00:45:44,015 --> 00:45:47,935
Speaker 5: I think too, you kind of get a sense that

816
00:45:48,095 --> 00:45:51,935
Speaker 5: lots of people are looking to return to I guess

817
00:45:51,975 --> 00:45:54,735
Speaker 5: traditional crafts like wood turning. Of wood turning has been

818
00:45:54,775 --> 00:45:59,095
Speaker 5: around for hundreds of years in various forms. And also

819
00:45:59,295 --> 00:46:04,455
Speaker 5: the sheer pleasure of making something. You know that in

820
00:46:04,495 --> 00:46:08,215
Speaker 5: a world where more and more people make things for

821
00:46:08,295 --> 00:46:10,535
Speaker 5: you and things are not made to last and all

822
00:46:10,575 --> 00:46:14,415
Speaker 5: the rest of it, it's it's that that kind of

823
00:46:14,495 --> 00:46:18,335
Speaker 5: inherent pleasure in making, you know, whether it's doing your

824
00:46:18,375 --> 00:46:21,575
Speaker 5: own baking or whether it's pottery, or whether it's wood

825
00:46:21,615 --> 00:46:25,415
Speaker 5: turning or whether it's weaving and that sort of thing.

826
00:46:25,415 --> 00:46:27,775
Speaker 5: There's there is, I think just a general sense that

827
00:46:27,815 --> 00:46:34,495
Speaker 5: people want to uncover those skills again. And yeah, keep

828
00:46:34,535 --> 00:46:35,415
Speaker 5: them alive.

829
00:46:35,335 --> 00:46:38,455
Speaker 16: I guess, and some of the balls were given out

830
00:46:38,495 --> 00:46:42,575
Speaker 16: to the brilliant.

831
00:46:43,055 --> 00:46:47,015
Speaker 5: I've written the date down so if the lines I mean,

832
00:46:47,055 --> 00:46:48,535
Speaker 5: it's the sort of thing I would love to get to.

833
00:46:48,575 --> 00:46:52,655
Speaker 5: I'm not making any promises, but I put the date

834
00:46:52,695 --> 00:46:53,655
Speaker 5: in the calendar already.

835
00:46:54,455 --> 00:46:56,415
Speaker 16: All right then, thank you very much, stay.

836
00:46:56,215 --> 00:46:59,575
Speaker 5: In touch, Thank you all the best. What Don was

837
00:46:59,615 --> 00:47:04,855
Speaker 5: talking about was a competition in the Wairapa, so in Palmerston,

838
00:47:04,935 --> 00:47:07,295
Speaker 5: I think is where it was. No might not have

839
00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:12,895
Speaker 5: been parmised over the weekend wood Turners Guild or festival.

840
00:47:13,055 --> 00:47:15,455
Speaker 5: And the competition was to turn out a bowl. They

841
00:47:15,495 --> 00:47:18,255
Speaker 5: all had exactly the same size piece of macrocarpa and

842
00:47:18,295 --> 00:47:21,575
Speaker 5: it was a speed test and we know that you know,

843
00:47:21,655 --> 00:47:24,895
Speaker 5: crafting things is not about speed, but it's a fantastic

844
00:47:24,935 --> 00:47:28,695
Speaker 5: thing to watch as as very accomplished and experienced wood

845
00:47:28,695 --> 00:47:31,495
Speaker 5: turners all have a go at trying to produce a

846
00:47:31,495 --> 00:47:34,655
Speaker 5: bowl in a limited amount of time three minutes thirty

847
00:47:34,855 --> 00:47:38,575
Speaker 5: seconds is phenomenal. So that would have been great to watch.

848
00:47:38,655 --> 00:47:42,295
Speaker 5: And eight hundred people through the door. That's tremendous community engagement,

849
00:47:42,375 --> 00:47:46,855
Speaker 5: So congratulations to you guys. It is thirteen minutes after seven.

850
00:47:46,895 --> 00:47:49,455
Speaker 5: If you've got a building question. Oh, eight hundred eighty

851
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:51,575
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number to call. A couple of

852
00:47:51,575 --> 00:47:55,295
Speaker 5: painting questions coming through, which is really really good as well,

853
00:47:55,335 --> 00:48:01,015
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for those. A couple of questions

854
00:48:01,015 --> 00:48:05,775
Speaker 5: about cladding roof treatments. This is an interesting one, hey,

855
00:48:05,815 --> 00:48:08,775
Speaker 5: In reply to the woman who has some concerns about

856
00:48:08,815 --> 00:48:11,615
Speaker 5: the roof treatments, this is someone who operates a business.

857
00:48:12,175 --> 00:48:15,615
Speaker 5: I operate my business in South Waikato. I do all

858
00:48:15,655 --> 00:48:19,495
Speaker 5: of it with an ecosoftwash and the buildings are performing well,

859
00:48:19,535 --> 00:48:21,535
Speaker 5: the roof and the hard With the roof and hard

860
00:48:21,615 --> 00:48:25,695
Speaker 5: surface treatments, I offer a guarantee that it will clear

861
00:48:25,735 --> 00:48:28,735
Speaker 5: the growth, and I photograph all the work so comparison

862
00:48:28,815 --> 00:48:31,415
Speaker 5: can be made at any time. If there are areas

863
00:48:31,455 --> 00:48:34,895
Speaker 5: where it's deemed not to be working, I return it

864
00:48:35,015 --> 00:48:38,855
Speaker 5: no additional charge. Photographic history and years of reputation does

865
00:48:38,895 --> 00:48:43,015
Speaker 5: provide peace of mind. Good on you, Chris. That sounds

866
00:48:43,095 --> 00:48:46,535
Speaker 5: really thorough and really professional. So that's Chris from X

867
00:48:46,615 --> 00:48:51,735
Speaker 5: Factor in Tokoro, South Waikato. So X factor so ex

868
00:48:51,815 --> 00:48:55,135
Speaker 5: mold roof treatments. Good on you, and it is really important.

869
00:48:55,135 --> 00:48:58,335
Speaker 5: And I was reading a condition report for a building

870
00:48:58,415 --> 00:49:02,055
Speaker 5: the other day, and the building surveyor who was commissioned

871
00:49:02,055 --> 00:49:04,615
Speaker 5: to do the report pointed out the fact that there

872
00:49:04,815 --> 00:49:08,215
Speaker 5: was the beginning of some like that was growing on

873
00:49:08,255 --> 00:49:11,895
Speaker 5: the roof and the recommendations removed that before it impacts

874
00:49:11,895 --> 00:49:15,295
Speaker 5: on the coating and potentially shortens the life span of

875
00:49:15,335 --> 00:49:17,495
Speaker 5: the roof. So if it is on your roof, you

876
00:49:17,535 --> 00:49:20,095
Speaker 5: should get it treated and obviously get it treated by

877
00:49:20,175 --> 00:49:22,855
Speaker 5: someone who knows what they're doing. Oh eight hundred eighty

878
00:49:22,935 --> 00:49:24,975
Speaker 5: ten eighty is the number to call. We'll take your

879
00:49:24,975 --> 00:49:26,895
Speaker 5: calls right now. We've got a spare line right now.

880
00:49:27,135 --> 00:49:29,655
Speaker 5: It is coming up fifteen minutes after seven.

881
00:49:30,135 --> 00:49:32,655
Speaker 1: Doing other house extorting the guard and asked Fete for

882
00:49:32,695 --> 00:49:35,895
Speaker 1: a hand as a resident builder with Peter Wolfcap Call

883
00:49:35,975 --> 00:49:38,615
Speaker 1: oh eight eighty ten eighty newstalgs EDB.

884
00:49:40,855 --> 00:49:42,975
Speaker 5: Your news talks dB A couple of minutes away from

885
00:49:43,255 --> 00:49:47,255
Speaker 5: our painting expert J from Razine and some really good

886
00:49:47,415 --> 00:49:50,615
Speaker 5: curly questions coming in on the text machine, so feel

887
00:49:50,615 --> 00:49:53,855
Speaker 5: free to send through another question for J. We'll try

888
00:49:53,895 --> 00:49:56,415
Speaker 5: and get through most of those in a moment. Some

889
00:49:56,455 --> 00:50:00,335
Speaker 5: great questions to via the text that I'll come to,

890
00:50:00,415 --> 00:50:04,255
Speaker 5: particularly around insurances or warranties for buildings. So we'll have

891
00:50:04,255 --> 00:50:05,895
Speaker 5: a look at that in a minute. But first up Bernie,

892
00:50:05,935 --> 00:50:07,415
Speaker 5: good morning, Yeah.

893
00:50:07,295 --> 00:50:11,055
Speaker 17: Good morning, pick. Just having a query on I just

894
00:50:11,095 --> 00:50:14,215
Speaker 17: had a kitchen greenow done and basically I had the

895
00:50:14,255 --> 00:50:19,575
Speaker 17: equal put HBO and all the kitchen stuff in and

896
00:50:19,935 --> 00:50:24,455
Speaker 17: the sparking that did the young Fellows been back through

897
00:50:24,575 --> 00:50:28,495
Speaker 17: times to deal with the issues with it just not

898
00:50:28,615 --> 00:50:31,895
Speaker 17: fitting in probably or had me fitting in properly, and

899
00:50:32,055 --> 00:50:35,775
Speaker 17: I'm just wanting to know where do I stand in

900
00:50:35,855 --> 00:50:37,575
Speaker 17: this issue. I'm going to go back to this spark

901
00:50:37,615 --> 00:50:41,295
Speaker 17: you tomorrow. You know, one of the people that are

902
00:50:42,055 --> 00:50:46,135
Speaker 17: based on whoever was put on to me, they have

903
00:50:46,255 --> 00:50:48,375
Speaker 17: a lot to see what I can do with it,

904
00:50:48,455 --> 00:50:52,415
Speaker 17: you know, because it's not not very satisfactory. It's just

905
00:50:52,895 --> 00:50:54,575
Speaker 17: he's where he's tolled the holes in his head and

906
00:50:54,615 --> 00:50:56,335
Speaker 17: put the brackets on the back of the wall, you

907
00:50:56,375 --> 00:50:59,815
Speaker 17: know that, and it just looked ugly. It wasn't even

908
00:51:00,535 --> 00:51:02,935
Speaker 17: you know, for the money I've paid paid the spark

909
00:51:02,935 --> 00:51:06,015
Speaker 17: you to do the job. I don't think you should

910
00:51:06,015 --> 00:51:10,295
Speaker 17: be paid because it's just a shocking workmanship on behalf

911
00:51:10,335 --> 00:51:10,855
Speaker 17: of the worker.

912
00:51:11,655 --> 00:51:15,015
Speaker 5: I think in the first instance, if he's an employee

913
00:51:15,015 --> 00:51:17,335
Speaker 5: of a firm, right, I would get in touch with

914
00:51:17,375 --> 00:51:21,695
Speaker 5: the boss and get the boss out immediately. And then

915
00:51:21,895 --> 00:51:24,975
Speaker 5: if you feel that you're still getting the run around,

916
00:51:24,975 --> 00:51:30,415
Speaker 5: basically I'd be inclined maybe to get a registered electrical

917
00:51:30,615 --> 00:51:33,935
Speaker 5: inspector to come out and determine have a look at

918
00:51:33,935 --> 00:51:38,615
Speaker 5: the work, because electricians are interesting for a number of

919
00:51:38,615 --> 00:51:44,095
Speaker 5: different reasons, but as a trade they self certify, right,

920
00:51:44,215 --> 00:51:46,615
Speaker 5: So if you're building a house or doing a renovation,

921
00:51:47,255 --> 00:51:50,895
Speaker 5: no one other than the electrician and an electrical inspector

922
00:51:51,095 --> 00:51:54,855
Speaker 5: will determine whether or not the work is compliant, right, Yes,

923
00:51:55,855 --> 00:52:00,495
Speaker 5: So it's a little bit different too. Let's say builders,

924
00:52:00,495 --> 00:52:03,295
Speaker 5: for example, and even plumbers where typically will do the

925
00:52:03,335 --> 00:52:05,695
Speaker 5: work and then a building inspector or a plumbing inspector

926
00:52:05,735 --> 00:52:07,535
Speaker 5: will determine and whether or not the work is up

927
00:52:07,575 --> 00:52:11,455
Speaker 5: to standard and sure pass right. So, in that sense,

928
00:52:11,535 --> 00:52:16,175
Speaker 5: there is more responsibility on electricians to do work according

929
00:52:16,215 --> 00:52:20,415
Speaker 5: to their regulations correctly all of the time. So if

930
00:52:20,775 --> 00:52:23,455
Speaker 5: for example, the young fellow who's been on site hasn't

931
00:52:23,455 --> 00:52:25,175
Speaker 5: done a great job, talk to the boss. If the

932
00:52:25,215 --> 00:52:28,255
Speaker 5: boss is unresponsive, I would go to an electrical inspector

933
00:52:28,535 --> 00:52:31,335
Speaker 5: and then they have their own disciplinary process after that.

934
00:52:31,575 --> 00:52:34,295
Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, yeah, because I did. The boss had come

935
00:52:34,295 --> 00:52:35,855
Speaker 17: out and have look at yourself, get it right for

936
00:52:35,975 --> 00:52:40,295
Speaker 17: your Friday. And then he did come out and wasn't

937
00:52:40,335 --> 00:52:43,015
Speaker 17: really happy to do the job, you know, like refix

938
00:52:43,095 --> 00:52:46,135
Speaker 17: it all up and where he put the screw holes

939
00:52:46,175 --> 00:52:48,935
Speaker 17: and they went even even nothing like that, and they

940
00:52:49,055 --> 00:52:52,375
Speaker 17: went the proper screws that they were with the kiss

941
00:52:52,415 --> 00:52:56,135
Speaker 17: ringing over that, and so I unscrewed it like Friday

942
00:52:56,255 --> 00:52:58,295
Speaker 17: night and just said, oh, I'm not putting it up.

943
00:52:58,295 --> 00:53:02,095
Speaker 17: Whether I took photos and I asked him to left

944
00:53:02,095 --> 00:53:04,415
Speaker 17: a note from him to take photos off the start

945
00:53:04,495 --> 00:53:07,935
Speaker 17: job and that, and he wasn't happy to do even that,

946
00:53:08,095 --> 00:53:11,015
Speaker 17: and yeah, he reckons you seek the photos for me?

947
00:53:11,495 --> 00:53:13,375
Speaker 17: Who he hasn't done that at all, And I think

948
00:53:13,415 --> 00:53:15,335
Speaker 17: he has one to show his boss.

949
00:53:15,135 --> 00:53:18,335
Speaker 5: And also I think it's I think it's time to

950
00:53:18,335 --> 00:53:19,015
Speaker 5: get the boss out.

951
00:53:19,655 --> 00:53:21,175
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I think I need to go get him

952
00:53:21,175 --> 00:53:24,535
Speaker 17: back out again, absolutely and do it because it's just

953
00:53:24,535 --> 00:53:27,175
Speaker 17: a lot of money if paid out for it. It's

954
00:53:27,655 --> 00:53:30,455
Speaker 17: my wave, a home at the stage.

955
00:53:30,215 --> 00:53:31,975
Speaker 7: And you want it to be right.

956
00:53:32,735 --> 00:53:35,215
Speaker 17: Yeah, I need to get it right. Yeah, definitely, right.

957
00:53:35,175 --> 00:53:37,135
Speaker 5: Get the boss out in the first instance, and then

958
00:53:37,255 --> 00:53:39,775
Speaker 5: electrical inspector after that, and then there is actually a

959
00:53:39,815 --> 00:53:42,495
Speaker 5: disciplinary board that they have as I understand it as well.

960
00:53:42,575 --> 00:53:45,415
Speaker 5: So good luck with that, Bernie and Mike.

961
00:53:46,255 --> 00:53:49,055
Speaker 18: Get oh how are you this morning?

962
00:53:49,295 --> 00:53:50,375
Speaker 5: Very well? How can I help?

963
00:53:50,695 --> 00:53:54,335
Speaker 18: Yeah? Look, I've got a property account for about thirty years.

964
00:53:55,775 --> 00:53:58,415
Speaker 18: Thinking about two thousand and eighteen, I think it was

965
00:53:58,495 --> 00:54:01,975
Speaker 18: we we did some innovations in the building of a

966
00:54:02,055 --> 00:54:05,015
Speaker 18: bit of a shorty job yep, and we never got

967
00:54:05,015 --> 00:54:07,535
Speaker 18: to build a building code tients. And when I say

968
00:54:07,535 --> 00:54:09,855
Speaker 18: shotty jobs's things like some of the fleshings don't go

969
00:54:09,975 --> 00:54:13,735
Speaker 18: past the windows and that's them. There's a deck that's

970
00:54:14,575 --> 00:54:16,655
Speaker 18: it comes off. That's the second story which is not

971
00:54:16,895 --> 00:54:17,415
Speaker 18: low enough.

972
00:54:18,415 --> 00:54:22,015
Speaker 5: And a quick question, the work that was done in

973
00:54:22,095 --> 00:54:27,175
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, was it done with a building consent? So

974
00:54:27,415 --> 00:54:30,055
Speaker 5: a building consent was issued for the work and then

975
00:54:30,135 --> 00:54:33,335
Speaker 5: the work was done, Yes, it was, yes, okay, And

976
00:54:33,455 --> 00:54:37,215
Speaker 5: the building consent didn't get signed off the building.

977
00:54:37,015 --> 00:54:40,775
Speaker 18: The building consent inspections some of them got signed off,

978
00:54:40,935 --> 00:54:43,695
Speaker 18: but the coding compliance we just knew got it was

979
00:54:43,735 --> 00:54:46,335
Speaker 18: to bands like with the builder.

980
00:54:46,415 --> 00:54:48,895
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it's me so we're looking looking to.

981
00:54:48,935 --> 00:54:51,095
Speaker 18: Sell the place, and the building inspector's been out and

982
00:54:51,175 --> 00:54:53,535
Speaker 18: he's gone around and given a solista some of the

983
00:54:53,575 --> 00:54:55,575
Speaker 18: things that he's seen a.

984
00:54:55,615 --> 00:54:57,935
Speaker 5: Building inspectors in the council Building inspector.

985
00:54:58,335 --> 00:55:02,375
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, yes, and so we can get those fixed.

986
00:55:03,175 --> 00:55:06,815
Speaker 18: But I'm still unsure as to you know, when I

987
00:55:06,895 --> 00:55:10,775
Speaker 18: go back and sell down all these senisters. Someone said

988
00:55:10,775 --> 00:55:13,015
Speaker 18: to me, well, you know you might have to. Actually

989
00:55:13,615 --> 00:55:16,255
Speaker 18: they might still not pass it because the whole house

990
00:55:16,255 --> 00:55:18,695
Speaker 18: wouldn't be compliant now because it's top so long go,

991
00:55:18,815 --> 00:55:22,895
Speaker 18: the insulation wouldn't very right. And do I have to

992
00:55:22,935 --> 00:55:24,535
Speaker 18: bring it all up to speed or is it just

993
00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:27,055
Speaker 18: what the building the council buildings peck yourselves and what

994
00:55:27,175 --> 00:55:27,575
Speaker 18: I have to do.

995
00:55:28,535 --> 00:55:30,615
Speaker 5: Just do what the building inspector asked you to do.

996
00:55:30,855 --> 00:55:34,215
Speaker 5: So if you've gone effectively you've asked for a final

997
00:55:34,295 --> 00:55:37,455
Speaker 5: inspection again, they've come out, they've given you a list

998
00:55:37,535 --> 00:55:40,615
Speaker 5: of things to do. Do exactly what's on the list.

999
00:55:40,935 --> 00:55:44,215
Speaker 5: Try and get the same building inspector back. They will

1000
00:55:44,335 --> 00:55:47,215
Speaker 5: tick that off and then you can make an application

1001
00:55:47,495 --> 00:55:53,375
Speaker 5: for a CCC. Now that process is always the homeowner's responsibility,

1002
00:55:53,575 --> 00:55:57,175
Speaker 5: and twenty eighteen not actually that long ago. They will

1003
00:55:57,295 --> 00:56:02,055
Speaker 5: want things like producer statements, record of works from your builder.

1004
00:56:03,135 --> 00:56:07,455
Speaker 5: They'll want certain warranty documents and so on. Get it

1005
00:56:07,615 --> 00:56:14,095
Speaker 5: done because I guess, and this is me speaking professionally

1006
00:56:14,175 --> 00:56:18,135
Speaker 5: as well, I will do pre purchase inspections from time

1007
00:56:18,215 --> 00:56:21,495
Speaker 5: to time. My attitude years ago was, if you've had

1008
00:56:21,535 --> 00:56:26,055
Speaker 5: a building like yours, you could make a determination and

1009
00:56:26,135 --> 00:56:28,535
Speaker 5: go look on the balance of probabilities. You could sort

1010
00:56:28,575 --> 00:56:30,815
Speaker 5: it out later on if you bought it right. My

1011
00:56:30,975 --> 00:56:34,655
Speaker 5: advice these days is to say to someone who's looking

1012
00:56:34,695 --> 00:56:37,015
Speaker 5: at a building, So if I was acting for someone

1013
00:56:37,055 --> 00:56:39,415
Speaker 5: who might be interested in your house, I would say

1014
00:56:39,455 --> 00:56:42,895
Speaker 5: to them, make sure that you might get the CCC

1015
00:56:43,135 --> 00:56:47,055
Speaker 5: for it. Don't take on that responsibility later on because

1016
00:56:47,095 --> 00:56:53,455
Speaker 5: it can be difficult. So I think it any money

1017
00:56:53,535 --> 00:56:56,415
Speaker 5: that you spend getting your house up and getting a

1018
00:56:56,495 --> 00:56:58,975
Speaker 5: CCC for it is money well spent.

1019
00:57:00,295 --> 00:57:04,375
Speaker 18: It would be my advice, right, And is there other

1020
00:57:04,415 --> 00:57:07,415
Speaker 18: people that can, like, can I go and get someone

1021
00:57:07,495 --> 00:57:12,455
Speaker 18: else that comes and speaks it and gives me a

1022
00:57:12,575 --> 00:57:14,775
Speaker 18: producer savment or something that sees that you know that

1023
00:57:14,855 --> 00:57:16,535
Speaker 18: it's wanted, which means.

1024
00:57:17,295 --> 00:57:20,455
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the best people to engage for that,

1025
00:57:22,175 --> 00:57:26,615
Speaker 5: but there are fees involved. Obviously would be a building

1026
00:57:26,695 --> 00:57:31,175
Speaker 5: survey as a registered building surveyor, because they're obviously familiar

1027
00:57:31,255 --> 00:57:35,535
Speaker 5: with the code and the code requirements and they will also,

1028
00:57:37,095 --> 00:57:40,335
Speaker 5: like I'm contracting a building surveyor at the moment to

1029
00:57:40,455 --> 00:57:43,695
Speaker 5: prepare a report that I can give to counsel to

1030
00:57:44,375 --> 00:57:46,815
Speaker 5: prove to counsel that the cladding is going to be

1031
00:57:47,015 --> 00:57:50,775
Speaker 5: durable and complies with the durability requirements of the code. Right,

1032
00:57:50,855 --> 00:57:54,735
Speaker 5: so it performs. Okay, now that's something that I'm familiar with,

1033
00:57:55,095 --> 00:57:57,255
Speaker 5: but I don't have the level of qualification in order

1034
00:57:57,335 --> 00:58:00,055
Speaker 5: to do that, and so I've contracted on behalf of

1035
00:58:00,135 --> 00:58:04,015
Speaker 5: my client to get a registered building surveyor to undertake that.

1036
00:58:05,175 --> 00:58:07,935
Speaker 5: So you may find that you end up getting a

1037
00:58:08,055 --> 00:58:11,695
Speaker 5: registered building survey. So it's either just go to ends

1038
00:58:11,855 --> 00:58:15,775
Speaker 5: ibs dot org so use it or building survey dot

1039
00:58:15,855 --> 00:58:19,055
Speaker 5: org dot enz scroll through and you'll find people in

1040
00:58:19,135 --> 00:58:21,135
Speaker 5: your area and then then go from there.

1041
00:58:21,855 --> 00:58:23,135
Speaker 18: Okay, all right, okay, but.

1042
00:58:23,895 --> 00:58:25,655
Speaker 5: You know it's it's a lot of work, but I

1043
00:58:25,815 --> 00:58:28,695
Speaker 5: assure you if you get it done, it's it's so

1044
00:58:28,935 --> 00:58:31,975
Speaker 5: much in your interest to get it done. Okay, all right,

1045
00:58:32,175 --> 00:58:35,975
Speaker 5: all the very best to you. Take care. Oh yeah,

1046
00:58:35,975 --> 00:58:37,815
Speaker 5: there's a bit of work involved in that, right to you.

1047
00:58:38,855 --> 00:58:43,095
Speaker 5: Let's talk painting, and I'm going to start off by going, Jay,

1048
00:58:44,215 --> 00:58:45,175
Speaker 5: how are you mate?

1049
00:58:46,415 --> 00:58:48,655
Speaker 4: Just listening to the last couple of questions, it sounds

1050
00:58:48,655 --> 00:58:52,055
Speaker 4: like it's a curly morning, and to.

1051
00:58:52,135 --> 00:58:55,615
Speaker 5: Be fair, it's it's only going to get curlier. I'll

1052
00:58:55,655 --> 00:58:57,535
Speaker 5: tell you what actually, just can we get a comment

1053
00:58:57,615 --> 00:59:02,615
Speaker 5: from you. The other day, I've been doing some work

1054
00:59:02,655 --> 00:59:05,655
Speaker 5: and I had some decking timber that turned up unprimed, right,

1055
00:59:05,735 --> 00:59:08,015
Speaker 5: So that was it's simple. It's it's h three point

1056
00:59:08,055 --> 00:59:11,535
Speaker 5: two timber. It's it's all dressed and ready to go,

1057
00:59:12,135 --> 00:59:14,615
Speaker 5: so obviously it needs a primer. So I used an

1058
00:59:14,615 --> 00:59:18,175
Speaker 5: oil based primer. Then, as for your advice, I've I've

1059
00:59:18,215 --> 00:59:20,895
Speaker 5: applied another coat of quick dry over the top of that.

1060
00:59:21,455 --> 00:59:23,735
Speaker 5: Then once it went down and I'd done all the priming,

1061
00:59:23,935 --> 00:59:26,975
Speaker 5: I've I've put my lumbersider over the top. So, but

1062
00:59:27,135 --> 00:59:29,535
Speaker 5: then the other day I bought a post that was

1063
00:59:29,775 --> 00:59:33,375
Speaker 5: pre primed, and a lot of timber that supplied for

1064
00:59:33,535 --> 00:59:37,695
Speaker 5: exterior cladding comes pre primed. I took the approach that

1065
00:59:37,855 --> 00:59:41,735
Speaker 5: that's kind of just a factory coat, and so once

1066
00:59:41,815 --> 00:59:43,895
Speaker 5: i'd finished working on the post, I gave it a

1067
00:59:43,975 --> 00:59:46,175
Speaker 5: light sand and take much to sand some of that

1068
00:59:46,255 --> 00:59:50,375
Speaker 5: primer off, and then re primed it with oil base. Again,

1069
00:59:51,175 --> 00:59:55,735
Speaker 5: is that generally what you would advise for pre primed boards.

1070
00:59:57,295 --> 00:59:57,455
Speaker 2: Ok.

1071
00:59:58,015 --> 01:00:00,295
Speaker 4: A lot of the pre prime timber is just like

1072
01:00:00,375 --> 01:00:04,415
Speaker 4: a transportation primer to the timber and transit. It's not

1073
01:00:04,815 --> 01:00:08,615
Speaker 4: a primer designed be kind of painted over. So you

1074
01:00:08,775 --> 01:00:11,135
Speaker 4: need to give it a sand re prime with an

1075
01:00:11,175 --> 01:00:14,735
Speaker 4: oil based primer, and then you get to go. There

1076
01:00:14,935 --> 01:00:18,895
Speaker 4: is some primer out there. There's true Prime from Razine

1077
01:00:18,975 --> 01:00:21,775
Speaker 4: and some of the other manufacturers do primers as well

1078
01:00:22,095 --> 01:00:25,695
Speaker 4: on certain weather boards and timbers. Yes, that will be

1079
01:00:26,015 --> 01:00:28,415
Speaker 4: there'll be stickers on the back of the boards around

1080
01:00:28,695 --> 01:00:31,335
Speaker 4: preparation and what you need to do, and some of

1081
01:00:31,415 --> 01:00:34,255
Speaker 4: those primers you can paint over. Yes, but the vast

1082
01:00:34,335 --> 01:00:37,735
Speaker 4: majority of pre prime timber you need to sand and reprime.

1083
01:00:37,975 --> 01:00:41,255
Speaker 5: Okay, that's good advice. And I know, like I've worked

1084
01:00:41,295 --> 01:00:44,495
Speaker 5: with timber clouting systems where they are prime undercodd and

1085
01:00:44,575 --> 01:00:46,415
Speaker 5: have a first code on them, so you know that's

1086
01:00:46,455 --> 01:00:49,415
Speaker 5: slightly different, but they will tell you that. So I

1087
01:00:49,455 --> 01:00:51,535
Speaker 5: think the safe assumption is if it's just got a

1088
01:00:51,655 --> 01:00:54,215
Speaker 5: primer on it, a factory primer on it. You should

1089
01:00:54,255 --> 01:00:55,415
Speaker 5: send it and reprime that.

1090
01:00:55,855 --> 01:00:57,375
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, you gave it a sand

1091
01:00:57,455 --> 01:01:00,335
Speaker 4: and it was just turning to dust essentially. So yeah,

1092
01:01:01,535 --> 01:01:03,335
Speaker 4: if you want to get through that and actually get

1093
01:01:03,335 --> 01:01:06,615
Speaker 4: a decent primer on there, the primers like the whole

1094
01:01:06,895 --> 01:01:10,295
Speaker 4: anchor right coat for the whole system. So that's the

1095
01:01:11,135 --> 01:01:13,375
Speaker 4: one coat that needs to be done really really well.

1096
01:01:14,215 --> 01:01:16,775
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh and look, it didn't take in this instance,

1097
01:01:16,855 --> 01:01:18,695
Speaker 5: didn't take a lot of time, and you know, I

1098
01:01:18,775 --> 01:01:22,055
Speaker 5: feel a lot more confident about it going forward. So

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01:01:22,295 --> 01:01:22,855
Speaker 5: that's awesome.

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01:01:23,135 --> 01:01:23,295
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:01:23,655 --> 01:01:28,255
Speaker 5: Let's rip into some texts of Vitex sticks that has

1102
01:01:28,335 --> 01:01:31,055
Speaker 5: been Vitex that's been oiled twice. The last time was

1103
01:01:31,175 --> 01:01:35,375
Speaker 5: ten years ago. Now more than well weared, weathered, no

1104
01:01:35,535 --> 01:01:38,215
Speaker 5: surprise there can I clean and put a water based

1105
01:01:38,335 --> 01:01:40,695
Speaker 5: stain on it? So what are the issues there? If

1106
01:01:40,775 --> 01:01:42,855
Speaker 5: it's been oiled ten years ago?

1107
01:01:43,295 --> 01:01:43,815
Speaker 2: What can I do?

1108
01:01:43,975 --> 01:01:48,055
Speaker 4: Really depends depends on what oil was used. If it's

1109
01:01:48,775 --> 01:01:52,695
Speaker 4: a mineral oil, like you've got a couple out there,

1110
01:01:53,175 --> 01:01:56,815
Speaker 4: wood X Dryden CD fifty, you need to stick with

1111
01:01:56,935 --> 01:02:01,095
Speaker 4: those right on the timber. If it's an oil like

1112
01:02:01,255 --> 01:02:04,855
Speaker 4: our razine solvent blen Woodsman. Then yes, you could clean

1113
01:02:04,935 --> 01:02:09,415
Speaker 4: it and go over with the water Born Woodsman or

1114
01:02:09,455 --> 01:02:13,295
Speaker 4: the solvent board Woodsman again. So to clean it it

1115
01:02:13,295 --> 01:02:15,935
Speaker 4: would be scrub it with rasine, timber and backwash.

1116
01:02:16,135 --> 01:02:16,295
Speaker 18: Yep.

1117
01:02:18,295 --> 01:02:20,855
Speaker 4: And then if you're not sure, ten years a long

1118
01:02:20,895 --> 01:02:24,335
Speaker 4: time of finding out what was on there. Pretty slim,

1119
01:02:24,615 --> 01:02:27,815
Speaker 4: So I'd say try one of our water Born Woodsman

1120
01:02:27,935 --> 01:02:31,335
Speaker 4: test spots in if you can, in an inconspicuous area, yes,

1121
01:02:31,855 --> 01:02:33,855
Speaker 4: and then just give it a couple of days see

1122
01:02:33,895 --> 01:02:37,335
Speaker 4: if it penetrates and dries, and if it does, you

1123
01:02:37,375 --> 01:02:40,695
Speaker 4: should be okay to restain over over that old oil.

1124
01:02:42,655 --> 01:02:44,855
Speaker 4: If it doesn't, then it stays on the surface and

1125
01:02:44,935 --> 01:02:48,615
Speaker 4: it's still tacky. Yes, then unfortunately you're going to have

1126
01:02:48,695 --> 01:02:50,495
Speaker 4: to stick with like a mineral oil.

1127
01:02:50,335 --> 01:02:53,415
Speaker 5: On that, i'ld say, right, So it's about compatibility between

1128
01:02:53,455 --> 01:02:58,855
Speaker 5: the different paint systems, right, Oh, painting question. I've got

1129
01:02:58,895 --> 01:03:02,775
Speaker 5: a soft ball sized hole in a hatch board wall

1130
01:03:02,855 --> 01:03:05,295
Speaker 5: in my garage. Once repaired with a small piece of

1131
01:03:05,375 --> 01:03:07,535
Speaker 5: GiB and plaster, I'd don't want to repaint the wall.

1132
01:03:07,935 --> 01:03:13,535
Speaker 5: Any tips for paintings leans in good fuck the size

1133
01:03:13,575 --> 01:03:16,695
Speaker 5: hole sounds awfully similar to a first size hole.

1134
01:03:18,455 --> 01:03:26,775
Speaker 4: Or ahead or a football really, so master painters and

1135
01:03:26,895 --> 01:03:30,295
Speaker 4: they're fat sheets. You say, anything bigger than a postage stamp,

1136
01:03:30,415 --> 01:03:32,415
Speaker 4: you're not really going to be able to touch up

1137
01:03:32,495 --> 01:03:35,015
Speaker 4: that area, right, So when you start getting bigger than

1138
01:03:35,095 --> 01:03:39,055
Speaker 4: that and lochine paint, you're you're going to struggle without

1139
01:03:39,135 --> 01:03:42,335
Speaker 4: doing corner to corner on the wall. Yeah, and our

1140
01:03:42,415 --> 01:03:44,855
Speaker 4: advices really always go corner to corner to try and

1141
01:03:44,975 --> 01:03:45,655
Speaker 4: blend it all in.

1142
01:03:46,815 --> 01:03:48,295
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the sort of thing you might get

1143
01:03:48,335 --> 01:03:51,495
Speaker 5: away with a touch up of a job that's recently

1144
01:03:51,615 --> 01:03:56,855
Speaker 5: being done, you know, like if you've got the same same.

1145
01:03:56,735 --> 01:04:00,815
Speaker 4: Role of application, then you might. But like I said,

1146
01:04:00,895 --> 01:04:05,695
Speaker 4: master painters say anything she wise greater than a flat

1147
01:04:05,855 --> 01:04:10,055
Speaker 4: or matt finish, you're going to struggle when it's bigger

1148
01:04:10,095 --> 01:04:11,055
Speaker 4: than a postage stamp.

1149
01:04:11,175 --> 01:04:14,215
Speaker 5: So yeah, paint and it might show up corner to

1150
01:04:14,375 --> 01:04:19,175
Speaker 5: corner absolutely. Yeah, we're painters not magicians. Yeah, that's it right.

1151
01:04:19,895 --> 01:04:23,535
Speaker 5: Getting some window frames done dark blue? What is the

1152
01:04:23,655 --> 01:04:29,455
Speaker 5: process to ensure that the paint lasts so dark blue

1153
01:04:29,695 --> 01:04:33,415
Speaker 5: window frames? And actually tell us what the light reflectance

1154
01:04:33,575 --> 01:04:36,615
Speaker 5: value is, so every.

1155
01:04:36,455 --> 01:04:39,815
Speaker 4: Color has got the value of the amount of light

1156
01:04:39,895 --> 01:04:44,735
Speaker 4: it reflects, and obviously the darker the color, it's going

1157
01:04:44,815 --> 01:04:47,535
Speaker 4: to absorb more light and more heat, and then that

1158
01:04:47,695 --> 01:04:52,775
Speaker 4: heat transfers obviously into the substrate the paints on. With

1159
01:04:52,935 --> 01:04:56,095
Speaker 4: timber windows, obviously the darker you go, the more heat

1160
01:04:56,135 --> 01:04:58,975
Speaker 4: it's going to absorb, and then the more movement you're

1161
01:04:59,055 --> 01:05:03,375
Speaker 4: likely to get in the timber yep. So ideally going

1162
01:05:03,495 --> 01:05:04,495
Speaker 4: lighter would be better.

1163
01:05:04,935 --> 01:05:07,815
Speaker 2: Yes, Obviously, if you're going to go dark.

1164
01:05:07,775 --> 01:05:11,895
Speaker 4: We'd always recommend using the cool colored version of the

1165
01:05:12,015 --> 01:05:15,215
Speaker 4: color so that that helps reflect more of the heat

1166
01:05:16,015 --> 01:05:19,015
Speaker 4: out from entering the substrate. That makes sense.

1167
01:05:19,335 --> 01:05:23,815
Speaker 5: Yeah, In terms of the numbers, because some like with

1168
01:05:23,935 --> 01:05:27,415
Speaker 5: the boards for example, they'll the manufacturer will say, if

1169
01:05:27,575 --> 01:05:30,175
Speaker 5: you paint a color that has a number above thirty

1170
01:05:30,255 --> 01:05:32,615
Speaker 5: five I think is typically where it cuts off, then

1171
01:05:33,415 --> 01:05:34,095
Speaker 5: it's forty five.

1172
01:05:34,255 --> 01:05:37,495
Speaker 4: Okay, it's around forty forty five. As usually the.

1173
01:05:37,535 --> 01:05:41,255
Speaker 5: Cutoff white as sort of one and black is one hundred.

1174
01:05:41,375 --> 01:05:42,055
Speaker 2: Is that how it works?

1175
01:05:42,695 --> 01:05:47,975
Speaker 4: It is near enough for blacks about four percent or something.

1176
01:05:48,055 --> 01:05:51,895
Speaker 4: In white's probably ninety five or something either way around.

1177
01:05:51,975 --> 01:05:57,655
Speaker 5: Okay, So higher the number, the lighter the color, and

1178
01:05:57,775 --> 01:06:03,655
Speaker 5: so going below forty five is not advisable.

1179
01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:07,895
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, are you under check head?

1180
01:06:10,175 --> 01:06:11,815
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never convinced that I've got it.

1181
01:06:12,775 --> 01:06:16,495
Speaker 4: It's more heat, it reflects less light. So the darker

1182
01:06:16,655 --> 01:06:18,935
Speaker 4: is going to absorb more and the light is going

1183
01:06:18,975 --> 01:06:19,575
Speaker 4: to reflect more.

1184
01:06:19,695 --> 01:06:22,575
Speaker 5: Okay, So in this situation, they're wedded to the dark color.

1185
01:06:22,975 --> 01:06:25,375
Speaker 5: They love it. What's the best thing to do?

1186
01:06:26,455 --> 01:06:30,055
Speaker 4: So, I mean it depends. So say it's timber weather,

1187
01:06:30,615 --> 01:06:33,895
Speaker 4: timber window. It's in pretty good condition at the moment.

1188
01:06:34,615 --> 01:06:39,815
Speaker 4: I'm presuming it's painted already, so it's kind of sand.

1189
01:06:39,975 --> 01:06:40,615
Speaker 16: What's on there?

1190
01:06:40,655 --> 01:06:41,335
Speaker 4: To de gloss?

1191
01:06:41,455 --> 01:06:42,055
Speaker 6: What's on there?

1192
01:06:43,735 --> 01:06:47,055
Speaker 4: Spot prime? Many bear areas would resime quick dry or

1193
01:06:47,175 --> 01:06:51,735
Speaker 4: Rasine wood primal, then the full coat of the Razine

1194
01:06:51,855 --> 01:06:55,695
Speaker 4: quick dry, and then i'd say used to lust the

1195
01:06:55,775 --> 01:06:59,615
Speaker 4: quill in that in the color they've chosen. But if

1196
01:06:59,695 --> 01:07:04,295
Speaker 4: it's forty or more like reflectance value, which kind of

1197
01:07:04,375 --> 01:07:07,415
Speaker 4: a darkish blue, will be used to call color version.

1198
01:07:07,735 --> 01:07:11,935
Speaker 5: Yess okay, brilliant stand the light. We're going to take

1199
01:07:11,975 --> 01:07:14,215
Speaker 5: short break. We'll be back with Jay from Razine after

1200
01:07:14,335 --> 01:07:14,655
Speaker 5: the break.

1201
01:07:14,895 --> 01:07:17,775
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

1202
01:07:17,815 --> 01:07:19,935
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give feeder,

1203
01:07:19,975 --> 01:07:21,055
Speaker 1: wolf gabber, call on.

1204
01:07:23,095 --> 01:07:24,895
Speaker 2: The resident builder on news dogs.

1205
01:07:25,095 --> 01:07:28,975
Speaker 5: B Jay Sharples from Razine is with us this morning

1206
01:07:29,535 --> 01:07:34,615
Speaker 5: taking your painting questions. Oh, here's a goodie painting a

1207
01:07:34,775 --> 01:07:37,455
Speaker 5: thirty one year old cedar house which has only been

1208
01:07:37,535 --> 01:07:41,135
Speaker 5: stained once when it was first built in nineteen ninety four.

1209
01:07:41,335 --> 01:07:45,055
Speaker 5: What is the preparation required before painting? How many coats

1210
01:07:45,095 --> 01:07:48,135
Speaker 5: of paint and a suitable paint for a cedar house

1211
01:07:48,215 --> 01:07:52,295
Speaker 5: that is north facing and exposed built on a hill?

1212
01:07:53,975 --> 01:08:00,575
Speaker 4: Anything again? Like the kind of vile earlier? Like if

1213
01:08:00,615 --> 01:08:02,335
Speaker 4: it's been oiled.

1214
01:08:01,975 --> 01:08:07,335
Speaker 5: Initially thirty one years with no log, go.

1215
01:08:07,455 --> 01:08:10,615
Speaker 4: Back to stain. Our recommendations for stain is staining every

1216
01:08:11,335 --> 01:08:14,015
Speaker 4: sort of two to three summers. Yep, So it's thirty

1217
01:08:14,055 --> 01:08:17,095
Speaker 4: one years for nothing. There's no protection on the cedar.

1218
01:08:18,055 --> 01:08:21,095
Speaker 4: What state is that cladenine to even look at?

1219
01:08:21,335 --> 01:08:22,415
Speaker 5: It's not going to be pretty.

1220
01:08:23,295 --> 01:08:28,455
Speaker 4: No, So system is razine, timber and deck quarters to

1221
01:08:28,455 --> 01:08:31,695
Speaker 4: give it a good clean. I'd imagine a moss and

1222
01:08:31,735 --> 01:08:35,735
Speaker 4: mold treatment as well. You're looking at a full coat

1223
01:08:35,815 --> 01:08:39,815
Speaker 4: of razine wood primer and then two coats of lumbersider.

1224
01:08:41,335 --> 01:08:46,735
Speaker 4: But I've seen old seedar houses that haven't had any

1225
01:08:47,135 --> 01:08:49,415
Speaker 4: sort of love for a number of years, where the

1226
01:08:49,455 --> 01:08:52,695
Speaker 4: ceedar gets very profiled and you get those peaks and

1227
01:08:52,775 --> 01:08:55,935
Speaker 4: troughs and what you can get when you paint it,

1228
01:08:56,175 --> 01:08:59,775
Speaker 4: which isn't visible really when you stain it is a

1229
01:08:59,895 --> 01:09:04,095
Speaker 4: lot of shadowing from those peaks and troughs on profile timber.

1230
01:09:04,855 --> 01:09:07,575
Speaker 4: So then if you get painters in paint it, the

1231
01:09:07,695 --> 01:09:10,695
Speaker 4: homeowner thinks the painters haven't put enough paint on because

1232
01:09:10,735 --> 01:09:13,055
Speaker 4: the house looks really patchy. But a lot of the

1233
01:09:13,135 --> 01:09:16,095
Speaker 4: time it's just those pigs and troughs in the in

1234
01:09:16,255 --> 01:09:17,455
Speaker 4: the profile of the timber.

1235
01:09:17,815 --> 01:09:18,015
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1236
01:09:20,055 --> 01:09:23,615
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that that's the system is give

1237
01:09:23,655 --> 01:09:25,735
Speaker 4: it a good clean down and then in wood primer

1238
01:09:25,855 --> 01:09:29,655
Speaker 4: and two coats of lumbersider. Or you're looking at restaining

1239
01:09:29,695 --> 01:09:34,455
Speaker 4: it and then restaining it every few years, yeah, or

1240
01:09:34,615 --> 01:09:35,535
Speaker 4: looking at recladding.

1241
01:09:35,855 --> 01:09:36,055
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1242
01:09:37,055 --> 01:09:37,255
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1243
01:09:37,855 --> 01:09:40,495
Speaker 5: Look, ultimately you're right, it may well need it. So

1244
01:09:40,975 --> 01:09:44,815
Speaker 5: you know, I suppose what it is is have realistic expectations.

1245
01:09:45,295 --> 01:09:48,215
Speaker 5: So if it's thoroughly cleaned, the right paint system, it

1246
01:09:48,335 --> 01:09:52,295
Speaker 5: will help protect it for some time. Like the house

1247
01:09:52,335 --> 01:09:56,615
Speaker 5: will love it, but don't expect to get a quality finish.

1248
01:09:56,775 --> 01:09:58,935
Speaker 5: Like you might have got off new cedar boards or

1249
01:09:59,015 --> 01:09:59,695
Speaker 5: new weather boards.

1250
01:10:00,415 --> 01:10:00,615
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1251
01:10:00,975 --> 01:10:06,015
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely. Last one is someone who's noticed mold ink

1252
01:10:06,495 --> 01:10:09,575
Speaker 5: like stains on the ceiling they painted with kitchen and

1253
01:10:09,655 --> 01:10:12,375
Speaker 5: bathroom paint. Wipe the ceiling, but it seems to be

1254
01:10:12,615 --> 01:10:16,775
Speaker 5: under the paint. Did they paint over the mold in

1255
01:10:16,855 --> 01:10:17,535
Speaker 5: the first place?

1256
01:10:18,135 --> 01:10:21,295
Speaker 4: Potentially, yes, I suppose if it's if it's bleeding through

1257
01:10:21,375 --> 01:10:27,095
Speaker 4: them paint, then yeah. We always recommend using rasime, moss

1258
01:10:27,135 --> 01:10:30,415
Speaker 4: and mold killer because it's it kills the spores of

1259
01:10:30,455 --> 01:10:33,735
Speaker 4: the mold, and if you just wipe it, it looks

1260
01:10:33,775 --> 01:10:36,735
Speaker 4: like you've removed it with just just wipe it with

1261
01:10:37,095 --> 01:10:40,695
Speaker 4: right or anything else, it looks like you've removed the mold,

1262
01:10:40,815 --> 01:10:43,295
Speaker 4: but the spores are still there. Yep, So you really

1263
01:10:43,375 --> 01:10:46,055
Speaker 4: need to use the bleach. In our opinion, a bleach

1264
01:10:46,135 --> 01:10:49,895
Speaker 4: based cleanhad like razine, moss and molecular to kill those

1265
01:10:49,935 --> 01:10:52,415
Speaker 4: spores so that when you do paint it they're not

1266
01:10:52,855 --> 01:10:54,975
Speaker 4: still there and bleeding through the coating.

1267
01:10:55,335 --> 01:10:55,495
Speaker 2: Yep.

1268
01:10:57,015 --> 01:10:59,855
Speaker 4: Now it's then you've noticed it. You can it might

1269
01:10:59,935 --> 01:11:03,535
Speaker 4: take multiple sort of treatments, but you can just keep

1270
01:11:03,575 --> 01:11:06,855
Speaker 4: cleaning it with the moss and molecular and hopefully it

1271
01:11:06,895 --> 01:11:09,695
Speaker 4: should get through and sort of help solve the issue.

1272
01:11:09,935 --> 01:11:14,935
Speaker 5: Yeah awesome, Okay, well right, do it right and do

1273
01:11:15,015 --> 01:11:16,015
Speaker 5: it once and do it right?

1274
01:11:16,375 --> 01:11:16,895
Speaker 7: Is the key is?

1275
01:11:17,455 --> 01:11:21,775
Speaker 5: Yeah? Isn't that the mental Absolutely? Hey j thank you

1276
01:11:22,015 --> 01:11:24,295
Speaker 5: very much for all your advice this morning. Much appreciated.

1277
01:11:25,215 --> 01:11:27,535
Speaker 5: Have a great day, take care all the best, I think,

1278
01:11:28,415 --> 01:11:31,255
Speaker 5: And actually the Razine people are at the Home and

1279
01:11:31,295 --> 01:11:34,255
Speaker 5: Garden Show which is on at Eden Park today, so

1280
01:11:34,375 --> 01:11:37,175
Speaker 5: last day to day. It's been on Thursday, Friday, Saturday

1281
01:11:37,215 --> 01:11:40,135
Speaker 5: and again today. So the Home and Garden Show. They've

1282
01:11:40,135 --> 01:11:42,615
Speaker 5: got sort of an experienced area for the kids, which

1283
01:11:42,655 --> 01:11:45,495
Speaker 5: is great fun. Some of the experts are presenting today.

1284
01:11:46,295 --> 01:11:48,215
Speaker 5: I happen to be in the expert line up today

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Speaker 5: as well. So if you're at the Home and Garden

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Speaker 5: Show today around twelve o'clock, make your way to the

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Speaker 5: little sort of auditorium area. They've got a presentation area there,

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Speaker 5: not far from the entrance way, and do a little

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Speaker 5: presentation on sort of my take on changes to building

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01:12:06,935 --> 01:12:10,095
Speaker 5: because there's so much change, what's changing? What's it about?

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01:12:10,975 --> 01:12:14,255
Speaker 5: It's a fast and furious thirty minute presentation from twelve

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Speaker 5: o'clock today at the Home and Garden Show. Thereafter I

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Speaker 5: will cruise down to the food court because man, there's

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01:12:20,655 --> 01:12:22,615
Speaker 5: some good food on offer at the Home and Garden

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Speaker 5: Show today. Great exhibitors too, and actually had a really

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Speaker 5: cool conversation with Flexi Abode.

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Speaker 2: I'll check that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Flexi Homes who do sort of modular construction, so

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Speaker 5: off site construction assembly on site, interestingly enough, using jaframe

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Speaker 5: as their preferred framing timber that they use for it,

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Speaker 5: which is really really cool, and then using Stark Joinery

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Speaker 5: in most of their projects as well, which is the

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Speaker 5: high performance uPVC joinery that they incorporate in order to

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Speaker 5: get really high performing homes. Actually, I had a just

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01:13:00,415 --> 01:13:04,175
Speaker 5: quickly for the breaky Friday. I spent the morning going

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Speaker 5: through the factory actually at Stark Joinery, so they make

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Speaker 5: the uPVC joinery. The whole process from the essentially the

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Speaker 5: stock the blanks coming out into a highly automated system

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01:13:19,855 --> 01:13:24,695
Speaker 5: that cuts everything, drills all the holes, goes through reinforcement,

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Speaker 5: goes into the assembly of the actual frames themselves, which

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Speaker 5: is done with heat, so their heat welded in the

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Speaker 5: corners and then automatically cleaned up, and then the assembly

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Speaker 5: of the hardware and the process out the door. So

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01:13:38,935 --> 01:13:42,655
Speaker 5: fascinating insight into some of the technology and clever thinking

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01:13:42,735 --> 01:13:46,055
Speaker 5: that goes into these high performance uPVC windows. So that

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01:13:46,175 --> 01:13:48,455
Speaker 5: was great. Actually really enjoyed my time out there at Stark.

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Speaker 5: It is quarter to eight already. Remember through climb past

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Speaker 5: will be along straight after at eight thirty. This morning.

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01:13:57,175 --> 01:14:00,735
Speaker 5: Will take your calls right through till eight thirty in

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01:14:00,855 --> 01:14:05,095
Speaker 5: terms of building, construction, legislation, rules and regulations, all things

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01:14:05,175 --> 01:14:08,775
Speaker 5: building and construction. But if you'd liked and if you'd

1322
01:14:08,815 --> 01:14:10,535
Speaker 5: like to give us a call, you can text. You

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01:14:10,615 --> 01:14:12,895
Speaker 5: can phone now on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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01:14:12,935 --> 01:14:16,415
Speaker 5: You can also text nine to nine two and we

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01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:18,495
Speaker 5: will talk all things building in construction.

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Speaker 2: Squeaky door or squeaky floor?

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01:14:21,775 --> 01:14:25,055
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfgaf, the resident builder

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01:14:25,335 --> 01:14:28,095
Speaker 1: on news Talk seb and A very good morning, John.

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Speaker 10: How are you doing, Pete?

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Speaker 13: Very well?

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01:14:30,975 --> 01:14:36,415
Speaker 10: I got really excited when I heard that text question, yes,

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01:14:36,695 --> 01:14:40,055
Speaker 10: and then I was bitterly disappointed about the razine guy's

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01:14:40,735 --> 01:14:44,735
Speaker 10: answer to it. Right, remember describing to you how I

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Speaker 10: did my place.

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Speaker 5: You sended it right back, and you ground it and

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Speaker 5: you polished it and you honed it and you looked

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Speaker 5: at it with a microscope and you applied fifty six

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Speaker 5: coats of paint and it looks magnificent.

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't think that description would help the personist

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Speaker 10: exactly how to do it? Do me to describe it?

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Speaker 5: I remember what you talking about, and look at it

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Speaker 5: if in your instance, and I really admire the application, right,

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01:15:13,695 --> 01:15:17,015
Speaker 5: So the dedication to it, I guess it's the sort

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01:15:17,055 --> 01:15:19,815
Speaker 5: of thing that you know, You and I as homeowners

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01:15:19,935 --> 01:15:22,855
Speaker 5: tend to pour our heart and soul into these processes

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01:15:22,975 --> 01:15:26,135
Speaker 5: and we can achieve great results. But from a commercial

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01:15:26,215 --> 01:15:29,135
Speaker 5: point of view, can you pay someone to put as

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01:15:29,215 --> 01:15:31,415
Speaker 5: much time and effort in Well, yes you can, but

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01:15:31,535 --> 01:15:34,335
Speaker 5: it tends to be a bit cost prohibitive. But look,

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Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying, John, And for listeners who

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01:15:36,735 --> 01:15:39,455
Speaker 5: don't recall the conversation, you know, John put a lot

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Speaker 5: of time and effort into standing, prepping and restoring the

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01:15:44,055 --> 01:15:47,495
Speaker 5: timber joinery, and I'm sure it looks absolutely magnificent. So

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01:15:48,575 --> 01:15:52,535
Speaker 5: it can be done, but it comes down to perhaps

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01:15:52,935 --> 01:15:55,215
Speaker 5: the amount of time, and typically the amount of time

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01:15:55,455 --> 01:15:57,815
Speaker 5: ends up being the amount of money. John really lovely

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01:15:57,895 --> 01:15:59,455
Speaker 5: to talk to you, and it was actually John that

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01:15:59,535 --> 01:16:01,175
Speaker 5: I sat with for a little while at the Home

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Speaker 5: and Garden John Wellington a week while ago and it

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Speaker 5: was a great conversation, so really appreciate it. It is

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Speaker 5: ten minutes away from eight today. We're looking into tryboard

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01:16:12,295 --> 01:16:16,375
Speaker 5: as a lining option. So it comes in two point

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Speaker 5: four or three point six meter sheets. It's ten mil.

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Speaker 5: It's got two MDF outer layers in a strand board

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01:16:23,175 --> 01:16:27,335
Speaker 5: inner layer, light durable, can handle the NOOX. It's pretty tough,

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Speaker 5: so it's perfect for renovations and for new builds. Joining

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Speaker 5: us this morning is Brendan Maroney from Store in z Now.

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Speaker 5: You specialize in kitchens, cabins and custom builds based up

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Speaker 5: in Northland. You've been using it for a couple of years.

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Speaker 5: How did you get interested in tryboard.

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Speaker 11: I started using trybards just after the COVID lockdowns. And

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Speaker 11: the reason I started using it is because Plywoods became

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01:16:51,775 --> 01:16:56,935
Speaker 11: quite inconsistent, just availability and also the varying price and

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Speaker 11: the quality as well. The quality really planted a little bit,

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01:17:00,495 --> 01:17:01,895
Speaker 11: I think, just due to availability.

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Speaker 5: Sure, so in terms of the installation process, this is

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01:17:05,895 --> 01:17:10,415
Speaker 5: your life over conventional timber framing, speed, complexity. Walk us

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Speaker 5: through it.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, it's pretty it's pretty simple. We just we

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01:17:15,295 --> 01:17:20,495
Speaker 11: do our framing and insulation and cabling, and then the

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01:17:20,575 --> 01:17:23,135
Speaker 11: triboarders glued to our timber framing, and then pins and

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01:17:23,215 --> 01:17:26,015
Speaker 11: then also screwed, just just to compress the glue and

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01:17:26,055 --> 01:17:28,815
Speaker 11: give it a good fixing. It's not used as a

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01:17:29,015 --> 01:17:31,935
Speaker 11: bracing element, but it definitely does add a bracing element

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01:17:32,015 --> 01:17:32,655
Speaker 11: to the structure.

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01:17:34,135 --> 01:17:38,895
Speaker 5: In terms of selection of links, what do you typically use?

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Speaker 11: I use both the two point four and the three

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01:17:43,055 --> 01:17:47,055
Speaker 11: point six one. I find the two point four mainly

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Speaker 11: for the wall linings, and then also if I build

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Speaker 11: a higher units, I can cut down the three point

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Speaker 11: six yep. But then the three point six is ideal

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01:17:55,095 --> 01:17:58,735
Speaker 11: for going across the ceiling long ways. Just less less boards,

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01:17:59,015 --> 01:17:59,495
Speaker 11: less work.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're using it a nicer finish walls and ceilings.

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01:18:03,775 --> 01:18:04,535
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's correct.

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01:18:05,815 --> 01:18:08,775
Speaker 5: In terms of of coating it, what what would your

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Speaker 5: top tips for coating it be.

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Speaker 11: I don't really have many top tips for courting as

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01:18:14,815 --> 01:18:17,455
Speaker 11: to come in and do it. As far as the

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Speaker 11: courting goes, it's it's a lot nicer than than a

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01:18:20,055 --> 01:18:23,935
Speaker 11: plywood finish. It's there's no inconsistencies or not so it

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01:18:24,255 --> 01:18:26,415
Speaker 11: definitely comes up really nice once it's finished, and we

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01:18:26,655 --> 01:18:29,455
Speaker 11: put a little chamfur on the giint yes, and line

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01:18:29,495 --> 01:18:31,855
Speaker 11: them up with the ceiling, and yeah, it looks stunny.

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01:18:32,495 --> 01:18:35,495
Speaker 5: And because with the NDF skin on it, it does

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Speaker 5: give you a really really smooth finish, doesn't it It does?

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01:18:38,895 --> 01:18:41,655
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's when you look side by side with

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01:18:41,815 --> 01:18:44,335
Speaker 11: NDF and fire, would you get a really nice finish.

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01:18:45,175 --> 01:18:45,415
Speaker 15: Nice.

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01:18:47,055 --> 01:18:49,415
Speaker 5: In terms of some projects coming up, where do you

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01:18:49,455 --> 01:18:50,895
Speaker 5: think you'll be using Tribwald next.

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01:18:52,255 --> 01:18:55,695
Speaker 11: I use triboard on I'd say ninety five percent of

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01:18:55,775 --> 01:18:59,975
Speaker 11: my cabins, so I'll be using it this week. I

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01:19:00,095 --> 01:19:03,055
Speaker 11: buy it quite quite regularly, probably buy a pack of

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01:19:03,135 --> 01:19:07,575
Speaker 11: fifty every two weeks. Yes, yeah, so that's I was

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01:19:07,615 --> 01:19:09,095
Speaker 11: in stock in my in my workshop.

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01:19:09,295 --> 01:19:11,775
Speaker 5: That's brilliant. It's become sort of an integral part of

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01:19:11,855 --> 01:19:12,695
Speaker 5: the buildings that you do.

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01:19:13,615 --> 01:19:17,535
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely. It's just that consistency and consistency and product

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01:19:17,735 --> 01:19:19,735
Speaker 11: price and availability and.

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01:19:20,135 --> 01:19:21,495
Speaker 5: A finish that you're really happy with.

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01:19:22,295 --> 01:19:24,335
Speaker 11: Yeah, and also the customers love that they come and

1423
01:19:24,375 --> 01:19:27,615
Speaker 11: they're always impressed with the finish. So that's I I

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01:19:27,775 --> 01:19:28,775
Speaker 11: was a bonus good to hear.

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01:19:28,775 --> 01:19:31,015
Speaker 5: If you want to look at some of Brendan's projects.

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01:19:31,215 --> 01:19:33,855
Speaker 5: Have a look at store dot co dot nz. That's

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01:19:34,055 --> 01:19:36,975
Speaker 5: s t o R dot co dot nz. To find

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01:19:37,015 --> 01:19:39,935
Speaker 5: out more about tryboard, go to j now dot co

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01:19:40,135 --> 01:19:40,615
Speaker 5: dot nz.

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01:19:42,295 --> 01:19:42,655
Speaker 8: Z B.

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01:19:46,935 --> 01:19:49,775
Speaker 5: Just finishing a snack right, Oh, it is six minutes away.

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01:19:50,375 --> 01:19:54,015
Speaker 5: Terribly unprofessional of me. Six minutes away from eight o'clock.

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01:19:54,975 --> 01:19:56,815
Speaker 5: If you've got a question, Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1434
01:19:56,895 --> 01:19:59,135
Speaker 5: ten eighty is that number to call. We'll take your

1435
01:19:59,175 --> 01:20:02,215
Speaker 5: calls right through till eight thirty this morning, when we'll

1436
01:20:02,255 --> 01:20:04,535
Speaker 5: jump into the garden with Rud. A couple of texts

1437
01:20:04,575 --> 01:20:06,735
Speaker 5: that have come through as well. Pete, can I paint

1438
01:20:06,855 --> 01:20:11,655
Speaker 5: a nineteen seventies brick house? Yes, you can, Bob rob

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01:20:12,495 --> 01:20:16,655
Speaker 5: So it's all about the primer, and interestingly enough, typically

1440
01:20:16,815 --> 01:20:21,895
Speaker 5: it's a pigmented Seala as the recommended primer onto brick

1441
01:20:22,335 --> 01:20:25,855
Speaker 5: so clean it thoroughly pigmented seila top coats over the

1442
01:20:25,935 --> 01:20:27,815
Speaker 5: top of that. Whether you do it with a brush

1443
01:20:27,935 --> 01:20:32,375
Speaker 5: or a roller or potentially even spray, it is completely

1444
01:20:32,455 --> 01:20:35,695
Speaker 5: up to you as well. Someone has text through this

1445
01:20:35,775 --> 01:20:38,135
Speaker 5: an interesting one. It was a painting question, but it

1446
01:20:38,295 --> 01:20:42,215
Speaker 5: kind of isn't. So they have a large house at

1447
01:20:42,295 --> 01:20:46,255
Speaker 5: ground level with internal guttering that sort of class facier

1448
01:20:46,295 --> 01:20:52,175
Speaker 5: type arrangement and replacing it has been quoted out at

1449
01:20:52,415 --> 01:20:56,295
Speaker 5: a rate that they can't afford. Seemingly, it's sound and

1450
01:20:56,415 --> 01:20:58,855
Speaker 5: I'd like to preserve it by painting it on the inside.

1451
01:20:58,975 --> 01:21:02,895
Speaker 5: Can you paint it? There are coatings that you could use,

1452
01:21:03,815 --> 01:21:08,215
Speaker 5: and I was talking to the guys from Polymer Systems

1453
01:21:08,215 --> 01:21:11,975
Speaker 5: who do Injuris as a coating that you could apply

1454
01:21:12,175 --> 01:21:14,815
Speaker 5: to extend the life. So have a look for in

1455
01:21:15,055 --> 01:21:20,135
Speaker 5: Juris e n d urs. That might be a product

1456
01:21:20,175 --> 01:21:22,815
Speaker 5: that you could apply to the inside. Tricky in those

1457
01:21:22,855 --> 01:21:27,255
Speaker 5: spaces sometimes, but it will probably extend the life of it. Otherwise,

1458
01:21:28,095 --> 01:21:29,975
Speaker 5: have a look at some of the really clever systems

1459
01:21:30,015 --> 01:21:32,655
Speaker 5: that are available for swapping this out. I know it's

1460
01:21:32,655 --> 01:21:35,495
Speaker 5: been a bit of a perennial topic on the show.

1461
01:21:35,815 --> 01:21:38,935
Speaker 5: The whole internal what we call internal spouting, so you'll

1462
01:21:38,975 --> 01:21:42,095
Speaker 5: have a facier board that's metal and then the spouting

1463
01:21:42,215 --> 01:21:44,935
Speaker 5: is clipped into the inside of it. They can be

1464
01:21:45,055 --> 01:21:48,855
Speaker 5: problematic and I noticed even actually at the Home Show

1465
01:21:49,175 --> 01:21:52,535
Speaker 5: Home and Garden Show continuous group of there and they've

1466
01:21:52,575 --> 01:21:57,735
Speaker 5: got a system which allows replacement that comes off facier

1467
01:21:57,815 --> 01:22:00,575
Speaker 5: goes on, external spouting goes on, so there is ready

1468
01:22:00,615 --> 01:22:03,295
Speaker 5: made systems available to swap those out.

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01:22:03,735 --> 01:22:03,855
Speaker 2: Right.

1470
01:22:04,255 --> 01:22:07,215
Speaker 5: We are going to talk all things building and construction

1471
01:22:07,375 --> 01:22:09,135
Speaker 5: for the next half hour through to late thirty. Then

1472
01:22:09,135 --> 01:22:11,215
Speaker 5: we're into the garden with red climb pass from eight

1473
01:22:11,255 --> 01:22:14,135
Speaker 5: to thirty. Your news talks, B News, Sport and weather

1474
01:22:14,215 --> 01:22:16,135
Speaker 5: top of the hour at eight o'clock back after that.

1475
01:22:16,495 --> 01:22:20,015
Speaker 1: Were helping you get those DIY projects done right. The

1476
01:22:20,215 --> 01:22:23,575
Speaker 1: resident builder with Beta WOLFCAF call OH eight hundred eighty

1477
01:22:23,655 --> 01:22:24,935
Speaker 1: ten eighty US talk ZV.

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01:22:26,375 --> 01:22:28,455
Speaker 5: Well, very good morning, welcome back to the program. Oh

1479
01:22:28,535 --> 01:22:31,095
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1480
01:22:31,255 --> 01:22:39,575
Speaker 5: That's for all of your calls abround building regulations, products, contractors, rules, regulations.

1481
01:22:39,615 --> 01:22:44,895
Speaker 5: Were talked a little bit about COCs and sorry not COCs, Yeah,

1482
01:22:44,975 --> 01:22:48,775
Speaker 5: COCs for electrical work, coas for building work, Certificate of

1483
01:22:48,895 --> 01:22:52,255
Speaker 5: Code compliance on the program this morning, talking a little

1484
01:22:52,255 --> 01:22:54,775
Speaker 5: bit about weather boards. We had jur painting expert on,

1485
01:22:54,895 --> 01:22:57,415
Speaker 5: so it's your opportunity to ask questions of a building

1486
01:22:57,535 --> 01:22:59,775
Speaker 5: nature right through to eight thirty and then we will

1487
01:22:59,815 --> 01:23:02,175
Speaker 5: jump into the garden with a ret climb pass. From

1488
01:23:02,255 --> 01:23:07,095
Speaker 5: eight point thirty as well. Quick couple of texts as

1489
01:23:07,135 --> 01:23:10,135
Speaker 5: well before we took to Lewis two large double glazed

1490
01:23:10,175 --> 01:23:14,095
Speaker 5: windows and endorsed stacker that are fogging inside between the

1491
01:23:14,175 --> 01:23:17,495
Speaker 5: glass panels. It happens after it's been sunny and then

1492
01:23:17,575 --> 01:23:20,615
Speaker 5: starts cooling down the cooler months of the year. Is

1493
01:23:20,735 --> 01:23:23,655
Speaker 5: this normal or perhaps a sign of faulty seals? We

1494
01:23:23,735 --> 01:23:26,895
Speaker 5: had them installed about eight years ago, but the fogging

1495
01:23:26,935 --> 01:23:29,855
Speaker 5: has just started in the last year. What are our

1496
01:23:29,935 --> 01:23:34,095
Speaker 5: options and your advice to remedy this. Well, unfortunately, there

1497
01:23:34,135 --> 01:23:40,575
Speaker 5: probably is no remedy apart from replacement, so it's reasonable

1498
01:23:40,655 --> 01:23:43,455
Speaker 5: to expect the DJ units not to perform like that

1499
01:23:43,655 --> 01:23:46,255
Speaker 5: within eight years. So I think if you know who

1500
01:23:46,375 --> 01:23:51,255
Speaker 5: installed them or more importantly, who manufactured them, well probably

1501
01:23:51,295 --> 01:23:56,095
Speaker 5: both things are actually important. So one of the things

1502
01:23:56,095 --> 01:23:58,295
Speaker 5: with double glazed units is when they're installed you need

1503
01:23:58,335 --> 01:24:00,135
Speaker 5: to make sure that they are gapped at the bottom

1504
01:24:01,135 --> 01:24:04,215
Speaker 5: because if they're just installed hard down onto the frame,

1505
01:24:04,775 --> 01:24:07,615
Speaker 5: they are likely to absorb more or it can penetrate

1506
01:24:07,695 --> 01:24:11,935
Speaker 5: the selant. So installation might have been the issue, or

1507
01:24:11,975 --> 01:24:15,095
Speaker 5: it might have been a manufacturing fault. Either way, find

1508
01:24:15,135 --> 01:24:18,055
Speaker 5: out who the manufacturer was and invite them back to

1509
01:24:18,175 --> 01:24:20,295
Speaker 5: have a look at it and see what you can do.

1510
01:24:20,375 --> 01:24:23,695
Speaker 5: In terms of replacement, Do you need a building consent

1511
01:24:23,815 --> 01:24:27,135
Speaker 5: to replace a wooden sash single glazed window with new

1512
01:24:27,415 --> 01:24:31,535
Speaker 5: uPVC double glazed windows. This is for a non heritage

1513
01:24:32,615 --> 01:24:37,215
Speaker 5: listed or zoned house. No, you don't. So what you're

1514
01:24:37,215 --> 01:24:40,215
Speaker 5: talking about there is the insert might be the insert

1515
01:24:40,455 --> 01:24:45,855
Speaker 5: system where timber frame you keep, You remove the sashes

1516
01:24:45,935 --> 01:24:48,815
Speaker 5: and the mullions and any fixed sashes, and a new

1517
01:24:49,495 --> 01:24:54,495
Speaker 5: uPVC insert is fitted into that. I was talking actually

1518
01:24:54,535 --> 01:24:56,975
Speaker 5: with sort of a mate who wanted to do something

1519
01:24:57,015 --> 01:25:00,615
Speaker 5: similar the other day. Put them in touch with Stark Windows.

1520
01:25:00,975 --> 01:25:03,775
Speaker 5: They've got a contractor who specialize in this sort of thing.

1521
01:25:03,895 --> 01:25:08,135
Speaker 5: So yes, it's definitely doable. If you're not changing the window,

1522
01:25:08,255 --> 01:25:10,415
Speaker 5: Even if you were taking the entire window out and

1523
01:25:10,495 --> 01:25:13,415
Speaker 5: replacing it with one pretty much the same size, If

1524
01:25:13,415 --> 01:25:16,495
Speaker 5: you're not altering the width of the opening, you don't

1525
01:25:16,535 --> 01:25:20,175
Speaker 5: need a building consent for that type of work. It's

1526
01:25:20,935 --> 01:25:23,455
Speaker 5: done under shood. You're one of the building acts. And look,

1527
01:25:23,535 --> 01:25:28,255
Speaker 5: the performance games are significant obviously with the uPVC but

1528
01:25:28,375 --> 01:25:31,575
Speaker 5: also with the double blazing. Put those two together, it'll

1529
01:25:31,655 --> 01:25:34,095
Speaker 5: transform the house. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten

1530
01:25:34,175 --> 01:25:35,095
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call.

1531
01:25:35,215 --> 01:25:38,655
Speaker 2: Hello, Lewis good a Peter.

1532
01:25:39,735 --> 01:25:42,455
Speaker 14: I'd like to talk to you about the Fencing Act,

1533
01:25:42,735 --> 01:25:47,935
Speaker 14: sure if I may. I live in North wite Kadow.

1534
01:25:48,615 --> 01:25:52,535
Speaker 14: I looked up the White Kadow website and they told

1535
01:25:52,615 --> 01:25:58,575
Speaker 14: me the Fencing Act was nineteen seventy nine, and I

1536
01:25:58,815 --> 01:26:04,535
Speaker 14: couldn't find any update date for the current Fencing Act,

1537
01:26:04,695 --> 01:26:08,735
Speaker 14: which is, as you know, six hundred diameter, six hundred

1538
01:26:08,815 --> 01:26:14,455
Speaker 14: deep footings, one hundred posts, two two meters center, maximum

1539
01:26:15,775 --> 01:26:18,695
Speaker 14: free rails, etc. Could you give me that date that

1540
01:26:18,935 --> 01:26:20,215
Speaker 14: come into forest please.

1541
01:26:20,375 --> 01:26:22,775
Speaker 5: I don't know that there's actually been an update since

1542
01:26:22,815 --> 01:26:27,335
Speaker 5: the date that you mentioned. I think what might have

1543
01:26:27,535 --> 01:26:31,735
Speaker 5: changed is the definition of a standard fence, because prior

1544
01:26:31,855 --> 01:26:35,415
Speaker 5: to that time a standard fence was actually I think

1545
01:26:35,455 --> 01:26:39,015
Speaker 5: it was a couple of warritas and three rows of

1546
01:26:39,175 --> 01:26:42,175
Speaker 5: number eight fencing wire that was considered a standard fence.

1547
01:26:42,695 --> 01:26:46,095
Speaker 5: So now it is as you've described it. Good on

1548
01:26:46,175 --> 01:26:48,015
Speaker 5: you for reading through it. I'm a little bit intrigued

1549
01:26:48,055 --> 01:26:52,055
Speaker 5: about the six hundred diameter hole for the post to

1550
01:26:52,135 --> 01:26:55,575
Speaker 5: sit in. That seems a bit excessive, like that's a

1551
01:26:55,695 --> 01:26:58,655
Speaker 5: lot of concrete around one hundred bi hundred post.

1552
01:26:59,935 --> 01:27:05,495
Speaker 14: Yes, well that's what that's where I believe the requirement is.

1553
01:27:05,695 --> 01:27:10,535
Speaker 5: Okay, well, that's interesting. I'm a little bit skeptical, to

1554
01:27:10,615 --> 01:27:13,655
Speaker 5: be fair, that seems like a very detailed and very

1555
01:27:14,455 --> 01:27:16,575
Speaker 5: and quite an excessive I mean, if I'm doing a fence,

1556
01:27:16,655 --> 01:27:20,655
Speaker 5: I'm not using a six hundred orger and then putting

1557
01:27:20,655 --> 01:27:23,655
Speaker 5: one hundred bye hundred posts in there. You know, I

1558
01:27:23,735 --> 01:27:25,855
Speaker 5: might be using a three hundred orger and then may

1559
01:27:25,935 --> 01:27:27,735
Speaker 5: be squaring it off a bit, but it ain't going

1560
01:27:27,815 --> 01:27:30,455
Speaker 5: to be six hundred but either way, So I think

1561
01:27:30,495 --> 01:27:32,935
Speaker 5: what it is is the definition of a standard fence

1562
01:27:32,975 --> 01:27:35,775
Speaker 5: has changed, but the act in terms of you know,

1563
01:27:35,895 --> 01:27:38,055
Speaker 5: having to write a letter, in terms of engagement with

1564
01:27:38,255 --> 01:27:41,775
Speaker 5: the neighbor, their contribution and so on, that stayed the same.

1565
01:27:41,935 --> 01:27:44,695
Speaker 5: The principles have stayed the same. It's only the specifics

1566
01:27:44,735 --> 01:27:46,975
Speaker 5: around what is a standard fence that's changed.

1567
01:27:48,815 --> 01:27:52,135
Speaker 14: Oh, I'm surprised that I've built a few offences in

1568
01:27:52,295 --> 01:27:57,895
Speaker 14: my time on why Hickey had a whole lot of

1569
01:27:58,495 --> 01:28:04,375
Speaker 14: special requirements for putting in fences, even had to get

1570
01:28:04,415 --> 01:28:07,695
Speaker 14: the council to come out and verify where you're going

1571
01:28:07,775 --> 01:28:10,015
Speaker 14: to dig the holes for the posts. And you've got

1572
01:28:10,135 --> 01:28:13,815
Speaker 14: to dig them by hand. They were all three hundred

1573
01:28:13,935 --> 01:28:18,295
Speaker 14: diameter posts. The last fence I built on my Hickey,

1574
01:28:20,375 --> 01:28:24,295
Speaker 14: I was under the new system of two meter maximum centers.

1575
01:28:25,295 --> 01:28:30,335
Speaker 14: They required six hundred diameter footings poured in plastic bags.

1576
01:28:33,895 --> 01:28:38,295
Speaker 14: At the moment, I couldn't find any date where this

1577
01:28:38,575 --> 01:28:42,895
Speaker 14: new requirement come into force, but I think it was

1578
01:28:43,015 --> 01:28:48,775
Speaker 14: about two thousand and two thousand and five somewhere around there.

1579
01:28:48,935 --> 01:28:51,895
Speaker 5: So I've just had a look. So there's the Fencing

1580
01:28:51,935 --> 01:28:54,655
Speaker 5: Act nineteen seventy eight is still called the Fencing Act

1581
01:28:54,735 --> 01:28:58,495
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy eight, but there is a version, an updated

1582
01:28:58,575 --> 01:29:04,735
Speaker 5: version twenty thirty December twenty twenty three, twenty three.

1583
01:29:07,815 --> 01:29:12,335
Speaker 14: I was right on the money twenty twenty three. Well

1584
01:29:12,375 --> 01:29:13,215
Speaker 14: that's what I'm at.

1585
01:29:13,415 --> 01:29:17,855
Speaker 5: Yeah, But just just for clarity, I think if you know,

1586
01:29:18,575 --> 01:29:22,135
Speaker 5: like if counsel are involved in the fence, then I

1587
01:29:22,255 --> 01:29:26,255
Speaker 5: wonder whether that fence is then part of a building consent,

1588
01:29:27,495 --> 01:29:30,575
Speaker 5: in which case you know there will be specific design

1589
01:29:30,655 --> 01:29:33,975
Speaker 5: and so on. Typically you don't need a building consent

1590
01:29:34,255 --> 01:29:37,255
Speaker 5: to do a boundary fence between two neighbors. If it's

1591
01:29:37,575 --> 01:29:40,255
Speaker 5: not retaining or it's not it doesn't have a surcharge,

1592
01:29:40,335 --> 01:29:42,535
Speaker 5: or it's not over a certain height and that sort

1593
01:29:42,575 --> 01:29:47,815
Speaker 5: of thing. Yeah, it won't get specific design.

1594
01:29:49,015 --> 01:29:54,455
Speaker 14: Right. Well, the situation I'm in, I've got a neighbor

1595
01:29:54,575 --> 01:30:01,335
Speaker 14: who's removed the support from the ground around right the

1596
01:30:01,535 --> 01:30:07,695
Speaker 14: area up underneath the fence posts into our by at

1597
01:30:07,815 --> 01:30:12,975
Speaker 14: least fifty millimeters, and he's removed all the support around

1598
01:30:13,055 --> 01:30:18,415
Speaker 14: the foundations of the fence, which are six hundred diameter

1599
01:30:18,535 --> 01:30:22,535
Speaker 14: with one hundred posts. The builder had recently replaced a

1600
01:30:22,655 --> 01:30:26,535
Speaker 14: fence which was built in nineteen ninety five, and this

1601
01:30:26,815 --> 01:30:30,415
Speaker 14: was done about six months ago. That seems all right.

1602
01:30:32,415 --> 01:30:36,295
Speaker 14: This neighbor has cut the back of the fence. He's

1603
01:30:36,415 --> 01:30:41,575
Speaker 14: removed all the support, exposed all the fence foundations. He's

1604
01:30:41,775 --> 01:30:51,495
Speaker 14: taking a dry concrete cutting sare or whatever, and he's

1605
01:30:51,655 --> 01:30:56,015
Speaker 14: cut down the back of the posts. So he's cut

1606
01:30:56,135 --> 01:30:59,055
Speaker 14: two hundred and fifty millimeters off the back of the

1607
01:30:59,215 --> 01:31:04,615
Speaker 14: concrete foundations and then knocked it off with a sledgehammer,

1608
01:31:05,135 --> 01:31:08,415
Speaker 14: and he's taken it down about four hundred and fifty

1609
01:31:08,535 --> 01:31:12,135
Speaker 14: millim meters in some places. I haven't measured any of

1610
01:31:12,255 --> 01:31:14,495
Speaker 14: these because I haven't been over there. I've just been

1611
01:31:14,575 --> 01:31:19,935
Speaker 14: looking over the since I've sewn the council and they've

1612
01:31:20,015 --> 01:31:21,255
Speaker 14: basically done nothing.

1613
01:31:22,295 --> 01:31:24,455
Speaker 5: No, they'll regard it as a civil matter.

1614
01:31:26,775 --> 01:31:27,735
Speaker 7: So where do I go?

1615
01:31:27,935 --> 01:31:28,095
Speaker 6: Now?

1616
01:31:28,255 --> 01:31:29,095
Speaker 14: Go to the courts?

1617
01:31:29,455 --> 01:31:30,175
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much.

1618
01:31:31,055 --> 01:31:32,975
Speaker 7: So there is.

1619
01:31:34,695 --> 01:31:38,575
Speaker 5: Under the property law, so Property Act right, there is

1620
01:31:38,695 --> 01:31:41,975
Speaker 5: some provision around you know, if a neighbor undermines you fence,

1621
01:31:42,095 --> 01:31:44,055
Speaker 5: you can make a claim against the neighbor. And that

1622
01:31:44,215 --> 01:31:48,575
Speaker 5: sounds exactly like what they've done, you know, And I mean,

1623
01:31:48,895 --> 01:31:51,375
Speaker 5: you know, what you would hope is that if for example,

1624
01:31:51,455 --> 01:31:53,615
Speaker 5: they were doing some earthworks on their side to get

1625
01:31:53,615 --> 01:31:56,055
Speaker 5: a driveway, and for example, and they needed to get

1626
01:31:56,095 --> 01:31:58,495
Speaker 5: the levels down and they were going to have to

1627
01:31:59,015 --> 01:32:01,455
Speaker 5: undermine your fence, they would also put in a retaining

1628
01:32:01,535 --> 01:32:03,895
Speaker 5: wall that would then offer some support to the fence.

1629
01:32:04,975 --> 01:32:09,095
Speaker 5: But that comes a civil matter. So yeah, it is,

1630
01:32:10,415 --> 01:32:12,455
Speaker 5: you know, I mean the you might want to get

1631
01:32:12,455 --> 01:32:14,815
Speaker 5: your lawyer involved, or you might want to do your

1632
01:32:14,855 --> 01:32:17,415
Speaker 5: own sort of legal research and then take a claim

1633
01:32:17,535 --> 01:32:21,335
Speaker 5: through the disputes tribunal to see whether or not you

1634
01:32:21,335 --> 01:32:24,215
Speaker 5: can get a contribution for a new retaining wall, or

1635
01:32:24,655 --> 01:32:27,295
Speaker 5: just go over have a conversation and go look, you've

1636
01:32:27,295 --> 01:32:29,615
Speaker 5: obviously dug down the fence is going to fall over.

1637
01:32:30,175 --> 01:32:33,615
Speaker 5: Can you do a retaining wall there? And you might

1638
01:32:33,735 --> 01:32:37,735
Speaker 5: contribute to it, you might not, but it'll it'll always

1639
01:32:37,815 --> 01:32:39,895
Speaker 5: be just a discussion between you and the neighbor.

1640
01:32:42,975 --> 01:32:46,655
Speaker 14: I actually live in a retirement village.

1641
01:32:47,175 --> 01:32:51,655
Speaker 5: Whoever you're you're acting for might be you know, whoever

1642
01:32:51,695 --> 01:32:54,175
Speaker 5: you whoever the interested parties are, they'll have to have

1643
01:32:54,215 --> 01:32:57,015
Speaker 5: a bit of a discussion and determine how they're going

1644
01:32:57,095 --> 01:33:00,215
Speaker 5: to resolve that. But you know, look, I get the frustration,

1645
01:33:00,535 --> 01:33:02,815
Speaker 5: and it happens a lot with developments. There's a big

1646
01:33:03,415 --> 01:33:05,935
Speaker 5: article in the paper the other day a family came

1647
01:33:05,975 --> 01:33:09,215
Speaker 5: home find their hedge, their four meter high hedge had

1648
01:33:09,295 --> 01:33:13,895
Speaker 5: been removed right because the builder next door cut through

1649
01:33:13,935 --> 01:33:15,535
Speaker 5: all the roots and then thought, oh, it looks like

1650
01:33:15,575 --> 01:33:17,535
Speaker 5: they're going to fall over. I'll just take them out. Well,

1651
01:33:18,135 --> 01:33:21,135
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. Have the conversation first seems to

1652
01:33:21,215 --> 01:33:23,735
Speaker 5: be the answer. Good luck with all of that, Lewis,

1653
01:33:23,815 --> 01:33:26,135
Speaker 5: and good on you for looking after somebody else as well.

1654
01:33:26,375 --> 01:33:28,975
Speaker 5: Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1655
01:33:28,975 --> 01:33:34,735
Speaker 5: to call quick one from you, Bob? How are you hello, Bob?

1656
01:33:38,375 --> 01:33:40,895
Speaker 5: He might have wandered off, Well, come back with Helen

1657
01:33:41,015 --> 01:33:43,495
Speaker 5: after the break. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're

1658
01:33:43,535 --> 01:33:46,935
Speaker 5: taking building calls right through eight thirty. Rit climb passed

1659
01:33:46,975 --> 01:33:49,495
Speaker 5: from eight thirty this morning measure twice.

1660
01:33:49,975 --> 01:33:52,935
Speaker 1: God was but maybe call Pete first for your Wolf

1661
01:33:52,975 --> 01:33:55,415
Speaker 1: gave the Resident Builder News Talk said be.

1662
01:33:57,455 --> 01:34:00,015
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1663
01:34:00,015 --> 01:34:01,855
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1664
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1666
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1667
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1668
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1669
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1670
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1672
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1673
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1674
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1676
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1677
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1678
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1679
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1680
01:35:02,095 --> 01:35:06,815
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1681
01:35:06,935 --> 01:35:08,415
Speaker 5: do it dot co dot nz.

1682
01:35:10,015 --> 01:35:11,855
Speaker 2: Zibbie righty oh.

1683
01:35:12,015 --> 01:35:15,415
Speaker 5: We are talking all things building and construction right up

1684
01:35:15,455 --> 01:35:18,215
Speaker 5: to a thirty Helen greetings to you.

1685
01:35:19,495 --> 01:35:20,255
Speaker 19: Good morning to you.

1686
01:35:20,815 --> 01:35:22,135
Speaker 5: Indeed, how can I help?

1687
01:35:23,895 --> 01:35:28,615
Speaker 19: I've got a thirty three year old house. I've got

1688
01:35:28,655 --> 01:35:35,335
Speaker 19: a balcony out of my upstairs bedroom which is some tiles.

1689
01:35:36,335 --> 01:35:40,895
Speaker 19: It's a wooden balcony. It's good tiles which and I

1690
01:35:40,935 --> 01:35:45,975
Speaker 19: think you know underneath ye. Over the last eighty months

1691
01:35:46,015 --> 01:35:48,935
Speaker 19: I've had a huge subdivision development going on less than

1692
01:35:49,055 --> 01:35:52,975
Speaker 19: three meters away, so hence wild there was a couple

1693
01:35:52,975 --> 01:35:55,855
Speaker 19: of cracktailes. I've got, you know, really bad cracktailes, and

1694
01:35:56,015 --> 01:35:58,975
Speaker 19: the groutings are loose and everything else. I'm looking at

1695
01:35:59,095 --> 01:36:04,335
Speaker 19: selling shortly. Do I when do I replace it? Before

1696
01:36:04,375 --> 01:36:08,255
Speaker 19: I fell on two I have had one quote which

1697
01:36:08,295 --> 01:36:13,935
Speaker 19: is about twenty fourced out. Is there something cheaper you

1698
01:36:14,015 --> 01:36:17,135
Speaker 19: can do it with? About maybe the tiling or do

1699
01:36:17,295 --> 01:36:19,735
Speaker 19: I need to replate the waterproofine.

1700
01:36:21,415 --> 01:36:24,175
Speaker 5: I guess the first question is does it leak.

1701
01:36:29,895 --> 01:36:34,775
Speaker 19: Downstairs? Yeah, there's one week occasionally when the wind blows

1702
01:36:35,135 --> 01:36:37,735
Speaker 19: ways that I've had it tested three or four years

1703
01:36:37,775 --> 01:36:41,975
Speaker 19: ago and the guys couldn't find a leak by actually screwting.

1704
01:36:41,575 --> 01:36:42,095
Speaker 18: The deck.

1705
01:36:43,615 --> 01:36:44,775
Speaker 19: The deck type thing.

1706
01:36:45,295 --> 01:36:49,455
Speaker 5: So in most instances, because again, if you're going to sell,

1707
01:36:49,695 --> 01:36:52,295
Speaker 5: it's going to be one of the questions, and certainly

1708
01:36:53,055 --> 01:36:57,335
Speaker 5: any halfway decent pre purchase inspection person who comes to

1709
01:36:57,375 --> 01:36:59,935
Speaker 5: look at it will go okay. So what we see

1710
01:36:59,975 --> 01:37:06,655
Speaker 5: here is you know, timber, substrate, butanol application direct fix tile. Now,

1711
01:37:07,535 --> 01:37:09,895
Speaker 5: even if the job was done really, really well, there's

1712
01:37:09,895 --> 01:37:12,095
Speaker 5: a couple of things. One is you're not allowed to

1713
01:37:12,095 --> 01:37:14,215
Speaker 5: build like that anymore for a number of good reasons.

1714
01:37:14,335 --> 01:37:16,575
Speaker 5: The other one is that it's possibly reaching the end

1715
01:37:16,615 --> 01:37:20,695
Speaker 5: of its life, and serviceability is difficult because if there's

1716
01:37:20,735 --> 01:37:23,775
Speaker 5: a problem with the waterproofing, you can't get to it

1717
01:37:23,815 --> 01:37:26,655
Speaker 5: because the tiles are stuck down to it. Certainly removing

1718
01:37:26,735 --> 01:37:29,375
Speaker 5: the tiles is going to damage the waterproofing, in which

1719
01:37:29,455 --> 01:37:34,335
Speaker 5: case you need to replace or repair the waterproofing membrane,

1720
01:37:34,855 --> 01:37:39,455
Speaker 5: and then you can't direct fixed tiles down to waterproofing

1721
01:37:39,535 --> 01:37:43,975
Speaker 5: membrane anymore. So you could do like a timber deck,

1722
01:37:44,095 --> 01:37:46,135
Speaker 5: or you could use jacks with tiles.

1723
01:37:47,455 --> 01:37:51,575
Speaker 19: Yeah, so that legally that you can't now direct.

1724
01:37:54,095 --> 01:37:57,175
Speaker 5: Well, it's certainly not compliant with the building code anymore

1725
01:37:57,255 --> 01:37:59,615
Speaker 5: to direct fix it. And to be fair, I'd be

1726
01:37:59,655 --> 01:38:05,055
Speaker 5: disappointed if a contractor came along and did what was

1727
01:38:05,135 --> 01:38:07,455
Speaker 5: there already, even if they said, look, it's maintenance, I'm

1728
01:38:07,495 --> 01:38:09,975
Speaker 5: doing like for like. The reality is we know that

1729
01:38:10,095 --> 01:38:13,015
Speaker 5: these things cause a problem, and so you don't want

1730
01:38:13,015 --> 01:38:15,815
Speaker 5: to leave that problem with somebody else. In fact, if

1731
01:38:15,855 --> 01:38:17,655
Speaker 5: they were to do it and you sold the house

1732
01:38:17,695 --> 01:38:20,055
Speaker 5: and there's a problem with it, they would be I

1733
01:38:20,175 --> 01:38:28,015
Speaker 5: think liable for the repairs. So I mean there are

1734
01:38:28,135 --> 01:38:32,855
Speaker 5: some systems whereby you could, for example, have the tiles removed.

1735
01:38:32,935 --> 01:38:36,495
Speaker 5: There will likely be some damage to the butteanyl if

1736
01:38:36,535 --> 01:38:39,895
Speaker 5: the buttanyle generally is in reasonable condition, as in it's

1737
01:38:39,975 --> 01:38:44,055
Speaker 5: still well adhered to the substrate, you could do a

1738
01:38:44,175 --> 01:38:47,735
Speaker 5: coating over the top of that and then place what

1739
01:38:47,855 --> 01:38:50,695
Speaker 5: they could like booz on jacks or they're like a

1740
01:38:50,895 --> 01:38:53,615
Speaker 5: plastic jack that you can put down on top, and

1741
01:38:53,695 --> 01:38:55,735
Speaker 5: then you can get some of them which allow you

1742
01:38:55,815 --> 01:38:58,375
Speaker 5: to put tiles directly on them, so thickt tiles like

1743
01:38:58,455 --> 01:39:02,895
Speaker 5: a nineteen mill tile and have effectively a floating deck

1744
01:39:03,175 --> 01:39:06,335
Speaker 5: or floating surface over the top of the waterproofing. The

1745
01:39:06,375 --> 01:39:08,575
Speaker 5: advantage of that is that if there was ever a

1746
01:39:08,735 --> 01:39:11,295
Speaker 5: problem with the waterproofing, you can lift those out and

1747
01:39:11,455 --> 01:39:16,535
Speaker 5: get access to the waterproofing for repair. So that would

1748
01:39:16,575 --> 01:39:20,855
Speaker 5: be a much more cost effective solution, you know, But

1749
01:39:20,975 --> 01:39:25,095
Speaker 5: there's you've got to be realistic around the limitations of

1750
01:39:25,575 --> 01:39:30,215
Speaker 5: how waterproof that might be. If you had extensive waterproofing issues,

1751
01:39:31,415 --> 01:39:34,615
Speaker 5: and you know, in all fairness to the contractors, typically

1752
01:39:34,695 --> 01:39:36,535
Speaker 5: if you were doing that work and you wanted to

1753
01:39:36,575 --> 01:39:40,055
Speaker 5: do a sort of absolute belt embraces approach, you might

1754
01:39:40,135 --> 01:39:42,375
Speaker 5: be taking the joinery out, you'd be taking the lower

1755
01:39:42,455 --> 01:39:44,655
Speaker 5: parts of the cladding off, you'd be stripping off the

1756
01:39:44,975 --> 01:39:49,655
Speaker 5: waterproofing completely. You might find for that vintage that the

1757
01:39:49,775 --> 01:39:53,175
Speaker 5: plywood that's underneath it will be untreated. In some cases,

1758
01:39:53,295 --> 01:39:57,255
Speaker 5: I've seen that plywood fix down with clouds. The clouds

1759
01:39:57,535 --> 01:40:01,135
Speaker 5: work their way out of the joist and then the

1760
01:40:01,215 --> 01:40:04,415
Speaker 5: head pops up above the plywood and is visible, and

1761
01:40:04,895 --> 01:40:08,415
Speaker 5: that can be I've seen it cut through the waterproofing.

1762
01:40:08,815 --> 01:40:11,175
Speaker 5: So then you say, okay, well then my ply would's

1763
01:40:11,215 --> 01:40:12,695
Speaker 5: no good, So I'm going to rip up all the ply,

1764
01:40:12,815 --> 01:40:17,535
Speaker 5: would replace that, maybe increase the fall threshold might not

1765
01:40:17,615 --> 01:40:20,135
Speaker 5: be one hundred and fifty millimeters, which it's required by

1766
01:40:20,175 --> 01:40:25,015
Speaker 5: the code. Now you can see how these things get complicated.

1767
01:40:25,335 --> 01:40:26,295
Speaker 14: Yes, exactly.

1768
01:40:26,735 --> 01:40:32,495
Speaker 19: Yeah, sorry, But in terms of a straightforw.

1769
01:40:31,935 --> 01:40:36,335
Speaker 5: Would repair, it would be remove the tiles, apply waterproofing

1770
01:40:36,455 --> 01:40:39,175
Speaker 5: coating that is compatible with the bututinyl, and there are

1771
01:40:39,255 --> 01:40:42,775
Speaker 5: some of those. There's one product called Injurist that I've

1772
01:40:42,895 --> 01:40:46,455
Speaker 5: used recently, not for that application, but a similar type thing.

1773
01:40:48,255 --> 01:40:51,015
Speaker 5: Then you know the jacks and the tiles, that'll give

1774
01:40:51,055 --> 01:40:55,855
Speaker 5: you a finish that's maintainable, attractive to look at, and

1775
01:40:56,415 --> 01:40:58,815
Speaker 5: you know it's a reasonable solution.

1776
01:41:00,055 --> 01:41:00,255
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1777
01:41:00,935 --> 01:41:03,015
Speaker 19: Is there any other sort of like I was sort

1778
01:41:03,055 --> 01:41:09,335
Speaker 19: of looking like a place called Superior Waterproofing of something.

1779
01:41:09,455 --> 01:41:14,255
Speaker 19: Is there any other besides putting tiles down? Any other options?

1780
01:41:14,775 --> 01:41:18,495
Speaker 5: Well, essentially you either tend to go tiles or timber. Right,

1781
01:41:18,615 --> 01:41:21,055
Speaker 5: so you might make up a raft like a timber

1782
01:41:21,175 --> 01:41:25,615
Speaker 5: raft that sits on these jacks on these pedestals. The

1783
01:41:25,695 --> 01:41:29,895
Speaker 5: whole thing is whatever we put over waterproofing in that

1784
01:41:30,055 --> 01:41:33,415
Speaker 5: situation where it's protecting a habitable space below has to

1785
01:41:33,495 --> 01:41:37,295
Speaker 5: be serviceable. So whatever decking system, whether it's tiles or timber,

1786
01:41:37,695 --> 01:41:40,255
Speaker 5: that you put down, has to be designed in such

1787
01:41:40,255 --> 01:41:43,175
Speaker 5: a way as it can be demountable, can be lifted up,

1788
01:41:43,255 --> 01:41:47,055
Speaker 5: and you can get access to the waterproofing for maintenance.

1789
01:41:47,815 --> 01:41:50,255
Speaker 5: So yeah, you can do timber or you can do tiles.

1790
01:41:52,895 --> 01:41:56,415
Speaker 5: All right, all right, couple of options therefore you okay,

1791
01:41:56,535 --> 01:41:58,575
Speaker 5: thank you very much, good luck all the us. Take

1792
01:41:58,615 --> 01:42:05,295
Speaker 5: care of them, all of us. Quick text before we

1793
01:42:05,335 --> 01:42:07,495
Speaker 5: get rid. Actually this is really interesting. One morning, I've

1794
01:42:07,535 --> 01:42:09,415
Speaker 5: sold part of my land so the neighbors can create

1795
01:42:09,455 --> 01:42:12,055
Speaker 5: a driveway for better access to their property. We had

1796
01:42:12,095 --> 01:42:14,815
Speaker 5: someone come over quote the work, accepted it and it

1797
01:42:14,895 --> 01:42:17,695
Speaker 5: got underway. Halfway through, they realized that a retaining war

1798
01:42:17,815 --> 01:42:20,615
Speaker 5: was needed and wanted to charge us an extra thirty

1799
01:42:20,695 --> 01:42:24,135
Speaker 5: grand to complete this. Where do myself and the contractors stand.

1800
01:42:24,575 --> 01:42:27,295
Speaker 5: The contractor has taken some ownership, but the quote has

1801
01:42:27,815 --> 01:42:32,215
Speaker 5: changed significantly since then. It's a really challenging one because

1802
01:42:32,815 --> 01:42:36,455
Speaker 5: you know, like a reconably well informed contractor will know

1803
01:42:36,615 --> 01:42:42,775
Speaker 5: what the heights will be, and you know it's not

1804
01:42:42,895 --> 01:42:48,255
Speaker 5: like a retaining wall magically suddenly becomes necessary. So you know,

1805
01:42:48,535 --> 01:42:52,775
Speaker 5: was there a problem with the scope of works? You know,

1806
01:42:53,295 --> 01:42:56,495
Speaker 5: when asking the contractor to price for work, did the

1807
01:42:56,575 --> 01:42:59,735
Speaker 5: floor levels or the finished ground levels not be clearly

1808
01:42:59,935 --> 01:43:03,615
Speaker 5: identified or did he just simply or they not take

1809
01:43:04,135 --> 01:43:09,615
Speaker 5: responsibility take due care here to ensure that if they

1810
01:43:09,655 --> 01:43:11,775
Speaker 5: were going to excavate down half a meter, for example,

1811
01:43:11,815 --> 01:43:15,255
Speaker 5: then you're going to need a retaining wall. But of

1812
01:43:15,335 --> 01:43:17,135
Speaker 5: course if it's not in their quote, if they didn't

1813
01:43:17,175 --> 01:43:19,255
Speaker 5: quote for a retaining wall, then it becomes a kind

1814
01:43:19,295 --> 01:43:22,255
Speaker 5: of ethical thing as to should they have informed you

1815
01:43:22,535 --> 01:43:24,535
Speaker 5: that a retaining war was likely so that you could

1816
01:43:24,575 --> 01:43:28,015
Speaker 5: price it into the job. Be interesting to know how

1817
01:43:28,055 --> 01:43:30,735
Speaker 5: you get on with that one. Rdio, let's jump into

1818
01:43:30,815 --> 01:43:34,855
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1819
01:43:35,015 --> 01:43:37,375
Speaker 5: rut in just a moment viewing of.

1820
01:43:37,455 --> 01:43:40,015
Speaker 2: The house extorting the garden, asked Pete for a hand.

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