1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Numbers out of ordering a tamadiki getting bleaker. The Independent 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Children's Monitor says abuse in state here is rising. Five 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty children are harmed in twenty four to 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: twenty five. That's up from five hundred and seven the 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: year before. That's ten percent of the kids totally in care. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Medipecket Okawa Tate is fun at Order Commission Agency chair 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: with us this morning Medipica. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Ryan. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Now this picture hasn't moved in the six years of 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: this report. Now it was bad under labor, bad under national. 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Is anyone around the world doing this better? 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Well, certainly I'd like to think so, because I can't 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: understand why the dial hasn't moved for our children in 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: care in New Zealand, and unfortunately, as the report just says, 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: things have not improved. All the attention that seems to 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: come on to removing the children from their families and 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: yet when they do come into care, first of all, 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: they get abused in care and the minimum standards of 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: care are not adhered to. So rather than kicking the 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: can down the road, I think it's giving the child 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: down the road and things are just not changing. 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I suppose nine. I mean, let's look, the 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: ten percent are being abused or neglected in state care, 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: which is terrible, but that means ninety percent aren't. Does 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: that mean that they are better off you know what 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, better off than being in the home. 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: No, it's not really, because what the report clearly says 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: is that for a lot of the children in care, 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: their educational requirements are not being met. Certainly, then their 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: health needs are not being met. And so we've we've 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: got a number of agencies that know that they are 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: paid to do a particular job for children who are 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: already in a vulnerable situation, who need their care and 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: attention and are not being prioritized. So it does not 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: look good for those that should be making every effort 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: to change and turn around the lives of children who 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: are already in a vulnerable position. 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: No, their lives have been terrible already because this will 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: They got there in the first place because they were, 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: as the report says, you know, sexually abuse by a 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: family member or they had a parent on meth who 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: just didn't care about them is terrible. 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Well, it is, but sometimes I think we should be 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: actually looking at what are we doing to change those 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: uh and those issues as well, those factors, I mean, 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: because those factors haven't changed either. So all we're doing, 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: we're reacting when something happens putting the child in a 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: situation where we know from the continuation of the reports 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: that we receive that we see that nothing will change 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: for them in state care anyway. So you know, if 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: you don't if you don't start to address those those 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: factors in the home that are causing children to be 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: at risk, that's one thing. And if you don't address 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: and make sure that the minimum standards of care that 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: they should be receiving when they go into care are 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: happening and being prioritized, then it's just going to be 57 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: one report after another, a lot of dollars going in 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: with no positive outcomes for the children. And this has 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: happening year after year. 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, six years on the Trump Medipecker, appreciate your time 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you many. You Get oka with Tate For. 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: More from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live to 63 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: news Talks. 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