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Speaker 1: Big news, bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the

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Speaker 2: Edben morning and welcome today. The police are really with

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Speaker 2: the lemon homicides and the month of your Blacks. Have

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Speaker 2: a few of us a little bit angsty over the

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Speaker 2: old win loss record of the Labor Party are trying

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Speaker 2: to start a tax debate, and the lads are and

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Speaker 2: the commisary box after eight are Richard Arnold and Karen Gilbert.

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Speaker 2: Is the internation of bus missus wicks PASKI. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the new week seven pass six. The Bloomberg New Energy

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Speaker 2: Finance people have issued a warning to Australians and in

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Speaker 2: that warning is the reality basically of the whole world.

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Speaker 2: To reach the climate target that Australia set for itself

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Speaker 2: by twenty thirty i e. About five years away, they

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Speaker 2: will need to increase the share of renewables that feeds

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Speaker 2: the power grid by eighty seven percent, not eight or

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Speaker 2: seven eighty seven. Obviously they're not going to do it.

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Speaker 2: It reminded me of our New Zealand's call the other

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Speaker 2: week in dropping some of their climate targets. Reality came

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Speaker 2: knocking in Instead of lying or greenwashing their way around it,

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Speaker 2: they told the truth. And the truth is they can't

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Speaker 2: do it. Small clue. Neither can Australia. Neither will the

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Speaker 2: United States or China, or India or Brazil or any

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Speaker 2: number of other major polluters who either can't or won't,

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Speaker 2: which then brings in the age old question, doesn't it

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Speaker 2: How hard should a country like ours try to do

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Speaker 2: something that will, in all reality make no difference. Now,

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Speaker 2: up to this point, I've largely argued we should at

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Speaker 2: and be seen to be doing our part. It's good

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Speaker 2: to be a good citizen, to be on the right

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Speaker 2: side of history. But as each day passes, and each

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Speaker 2: report is produced, and each alarmist utterance issued by people

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Speaker 2: like a terrace at the UN about the world burning,

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Speaker 2: as problematic as the environment might be, it's increasingly clear

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Speaker 2: a lot of people will not be walking the walk old.

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Speaker 2: The talk was easy, The rest is falling by the wayside.

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Speaker 2: It's like the twenty twenty argument. Remember that turned into

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Speaker 2: a farce. How different everything would be by the time

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty as the next twenty twenty in Australia, our neighbor,

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Speaker 2: one of our biggest trading partners, needs to boost the

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Speaker 2: renewables by an amount they are simply not able to. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the argument will be repeated as we reached the famed

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Speaker 2: Paris twenty to fifty tagging. So if we can, but

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Speaker 2: it counts for nothing. Should we? If we pay an

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Speaker 2: economic price for doing the right thing while others don't,

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Speaker 2: should we?

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety.

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Speaker 2: Six couple bides riding in Britain as well over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: the new government trying and still struggling really to justify

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Speaker 2: the accoutting of heating payments to pinchoners. Their own Health

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Speaker 2: Minister isn't convinced.

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Speaker 3: I'm not remotely happy about it, and I'm not remotely

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Speaker 3: happy about having to save some of my constituents. I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry that I'm going into work this week to vote

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Speaker 3: for something that will take money away from you.

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Speaker 2: Ah The Unions of Widen with the idea that a

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Speaker 2: good old tax rise might help.

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Speaker 3: Why do those who get their income from shares and

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Speaker 2: In this contact, which leads us to the Tories who

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Speaker 2: are linking tax increases to health waiting lists.

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Speaker 4: For report, I fear is cover for the Labor Party

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Speaker 4: we need to have a grown up conversation about the NHS.

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Speaker 4: But this is not the way to go about it.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, the NHS. Are they going to plan to

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Speaker 2: drop the waiting time to eighteen weeks? You know one

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Speaker 2: thing that works is what's called elective hubs. These are

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Speaker 3: Now we know they're twenty percent more efficient, but we

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Speaker 2: We need twice as many of those if we're going

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Speaker 2: Georgia school shooter. Many people are in the country, they're

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Speaker 5: They wanted to turn So if the.

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Speaker 2: Does come flow through looking for to prosecute the parents

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Speaker 6: That's one way to do it.

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Speaker 2: And it's debate week Wednesday our time, of course, Trumpet

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Speaker 2: Heiri's the only one officially lined up. Actually, there's only

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Speaker 2: one debate coming anyway. Some questions around how Harris defends

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Speaker 7: Does she still think Afghanistan was a success? Does she

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Speaker 7: still want to take away Guess powered cars? Does she

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Speaker 7: still support the ninety three trillion dollar Green New Deal?

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Speaker 7: She still want to take away your health insurance?

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Speaker 2: Finally, the latest influencer health fad that's got the medical

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Speaker 2: of drinking dead bacteria. They calling it post biotics. So

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Speaker 2: weight loss. Doctors say, well, that's crap. It could damage

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Speaker 2: your gap function, calls vowel issues, and if you have

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Speaker 2: near to the world of ninety zecond quick up day.

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Speaker 2: By the way, when Joe was on the show Thursday

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Speaker 2: Zip Meantime in Venezuela, they got a bunch of the

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Speaker 2: to you morning. Right, jobs, how'd they read them in

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Speaker 8: Not so well from markets perspective, So these and ple

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Speaker 8: The previous two months saw substantial downward revisions, and this

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Speaker 2: Here's your problem, though from all the reading I did,

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Speaker 2: it's not there for meat. It is there for trees.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem I read in this report from last week,

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Speaker 15: No, that's you know, your bike shop, your events, all

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Speaker 2: And as far as lamb's concerned, what's holding that down?

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Speaker 15: slow down in China. Who aren't they as much sheep

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Speaker 6: Price and we want your business.

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Speaker 15: They're targeting that high in New York market. Everybody wants.

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Speaker 15: producing anything the world needs anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, it makes sense to me. Toby go, well, appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. Good and so Toby Williams Federated Farmers

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Speaker 2: Like him? Nineteen minutes away from seven hust get the

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Speaker 2: pole out of Australia. The Greens this morning on thirteen percent.

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Speaker 2: ever going to happen. Twenty eight for labor. That primary

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Speaker 2: vote for labor is the lowest since the Resolve polls

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Speaker 2: began in twenty twenty one. If your preference it they

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Speaker 2: get up to fifty one percent on the preferences of

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Speaker 2: last time. Preferences of this time they're only at forty nine.

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Speaker 2: The Coalition wins fifty one to forty nine. So the

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Speaker 2: That's true, Mike. You need to get verdie on. They've

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Speaker 2: Cardwood to damand morning, Hey, Mike, Mike's muted was standing by.

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Speaker 16: Two days of the big debate. Yes, stakes could not

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Speaker 16: be higher. A New York Times poll out today shows

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Speaker 16: Trump ahead nationally over Harris by one point, forty eight

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Speaker 16: to forty seven. The Democratic surge that we've seen in

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Speaker 16: recent times has given way to this pause. In a CNA,

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Speaker 16: CNN Pollar polls out today, Harris is are here by

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Speaker 16: forty nine to forty seven percent. But none of this

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Speaker 16: really is a clear indicator, and neither is polling in

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Speaker 16: the various battleground states in a way that is persuasive.

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Speaker 16: In almost all of these places Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia,

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Speaker 16: the mugin's about a point either way, except for Wisconsin.

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Speaker 16: With the polling is Harris a larger lead, but they

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Speaker 16: undercounted the Trump support last time, So Nick and Neck,

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Speaker 16: Harris says of her debate theme page, to move on

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Speaker 16: from the visit of government. She's saying, Harris met with

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Speaker 16: voters in Pennsylvania, where she's been camped out since last week, basically.

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Speaker 13: Best prior debate pred so far.

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Speaker 16: While Donald Trump is threatening to go after his opponent's

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Speaker 16: campaign donors in quote retribution if they play a role

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Speaker 16: in what he's already taking a possible election Steel and

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Speaker 16: he says, we're.

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Speaker 5: Run by stupid people, stupid, stupid people, and.

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Speaker 2: We found that out at the debate.

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Speaker 9: Jill, how did that work out?

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Speaker 16: So this could be the most important presidential debate in

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Speaker 16: the US of A well since.

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Speaker 2: The last one.

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Speaker 16: Right meantime, there are remarkable political terms almost daily. Former

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Speaker 16: President George W. Bush says he will not make any

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Speaker 16: formal endorsement this go around, so Trump not being backed

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Speaker 16: by the only other living Republican former president, and Liz

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Speaker 16: Cheney and her father Dick Cheney, who used to be called,

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Speaker 16: of course, Darth Vader by Democratic foes, now say they

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Speaker 16: will vote for Harris. In an interview today, Liz Cheney

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Speaker 16: says this.

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Speaker 11: I've never voted for a Democrat. It tells you I

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Speaker 11: think the stakes in this election.

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Speaker 16: She says also that if Ronald Reagan still was alive,

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Speaker 16: he would not be on the Trump train either.

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Speaker 11: In her view, there is absolutely no chance that Ronald

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Speaker 11: Reagan would be supporting Donald Trump.

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Speaker 16: And she says of Trump himself and his policies.

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Speaker 11: He's not a conservative. The policies that we're seeing him

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Speaker 11: put forward, including you know, again on an almost daily basis,

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Speaker 11: this notion of embracing global tariffs, we'll choke off global

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Speaker 11: trade will likely lead us down the path that we've

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Speaker 11: seen before, for example, in the nineteen thirties, lead to

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Speaker 11: at that point it was a depression.

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Speaker 16: Well, she calls Trump a deviant and says he would

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Speaker 16: bring quote catastrophe on the US if re elected. In

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Speaker 16: his statement, dick Cheney says, quote, there has never been

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Speaker 16: an individual who is a greater threat to the Republic

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Speaker 16: than Donald Trump. He adds, quote he tried to steal

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Speaker 16: the last election using lies and violence to keep himself

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Speaker 16: in power after the voters had rejected him. Who can

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Speaker 16: never be trusted with power again, so says dick Cheney,

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Speaker 16: who now says he too, will vote for the Democrats. So, Mike,

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Speaker 16: what next?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Hey, listen, I'm watching the video. So he's on

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Speaker 2: the ground and the cops are on top of him,

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Speaker 2: and they look at what happened.

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Speaker 16: We don't fully know, but this is certainly stirring up

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Speaker 16: the start of the NFL season. Right before the Jacksonville

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Speaker 16: Jaguars versus Miami Golfin's name game and the Miami's best player,

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Speaker 16: Tyreek Hill was stopped at a traffic stop for some

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Speaker 16: moving violation. We don't know the details the police siders yet,

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Speaker 16: but a thirty year old Dolphins star was handcuffed and

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Speaker 16: forced onto the ground. As you say, police appeared to

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Speaker 16: scream at him. His agent Drew Rosenhaus is saying this.

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Speaker 17: Apparently he got a ticket for moving violation entering the stadium.

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Speaker 17: How things escalated into the situation that they were in

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Speaker 17: handcuffs and being held on the ground with police mind

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Speaker 17: boggling to me. I'm deeply concerned by that very trouble.

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Speaker 17: We will be looking into it. We will be investigating this.

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Speaker 17: We will look out for Tyree.

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Speaker 16: Like I say, make not all the video is released yet,

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Speaker 16: but there is said to be a clip showing a

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Speaker 16: police officer kicking Tyreek Hill. He was shaken but went

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Speaker 16: on to playing the game. This is a fellow who

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Speaker 16: was in the winning Super Bowl side Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 16: and he's just in his third season with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 16: It was the top receiver in the league last season.

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Speaker 16: Halftime Dolphins trailing jag He was seventeen to seven, So

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Speaker 16: we don't know how much stat is are playing to

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Speaker 16: This brings to mind doesn't know what happened to golfer

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Speaker 16: Scotty Scheffer, the top rating golfer who was detained by

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Speaker 16: police watching to get to a PGA event in Louisville

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Speaker 16: a few months back. Police say they are investigating as

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Speaker 16: leaders see Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Mate Richard Arnold states, just on that poll, by the way,

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Speaker 2: which is the New York Times Ciena poll, so forty

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Speaker 2: seven forty eight. I mean, you know it's time. What's

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Speaker 2: interesting is the right track wrong track numbers. And you

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Speaker 2: go back to June, twenty two percent of people thought

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Speaker 2: the country was on the right track, which is not

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Speaker 2: many twenty two to sixty nine wrong track. It's now

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Speaker 2: up to twenty eight on the right track. So they're

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Speaker 2: thinking things are improving. If they think things are improving,

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Speaker 2: that would generally correlate with things improving for the Democrats camp,

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Speaker 2: because they are, of course, as we currently speak, in

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Speaker 2: charge of the economy. Night Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: On my costume, Breakfast with the Jaguar f base news

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Speaker 1: talks eNB unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: The heads of MI six and CIA over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: both countries stand together in resisting an assert of Russia

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Speaker 2: and Putin's war of progression in the Ukraine. What were

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Speaker 2: they talking about. They're worried about the global order under

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Speaker 2: threaten the way that we haven't seen since the Cold War.

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Speaker 2: This was a Financial Time event, our first ever joint

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Speaker 2: article written for the Financial Times by Sir Richard Moore

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Speaker 2: and William Burns, who had the MI six and the CIA. Basically,

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Speaker 2: there is no question they say that the international world order,

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Speaker 2: the balance system that has led to relative peace and

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Speaker 2: stability and delivered rising living standards, opportunities and prosperity, is

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Speaker 2: under threat in a way we haven't seen since the

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Speaker 2: Cold War. And I suspect they're probably right five away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 2: Now, I got to building numbers from stats n zenty

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Speaker 2: of this morning. These the seasonally adjusted volume numbers. Stats

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Speaker 2: remove the effects of price changed typical seasonal patterns. All

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Speaker 2: that stuff. June quarter eight point two billion worth of

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Speaker 2: building work, which is down zero point two percent compared

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Speaker 2: with Q one this year. Zero point two Does that

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Speaker 2: sound a lot, Well, it's the lowest volume of building

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Speaker 2: activity for a June quarter since twenty twenty, so it's

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Speaker 2: not good. And back in twenty twenty was all being

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Speaker 2: decimated by COVID. Of course, Residential building workers down zero

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Speaker 2: point seven percent to five point two billion, non residential

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Speaker 2: down zero point one to three billion. For the year

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Speaker 2: ending June, we did thirty six billion worth of building

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Speaker 2: work over the year, down zero point one competed with

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Speaker 2: last year. Residential was twenty three billion for the year,

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Speaker 2: down four point one. Non residential up, so that commercial

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Speaker 2: stuff and all that sort of thing seven point eight

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Speaker 2: percent up to thirteen billion. Cost increases were about the

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Speaker 2: same for both, up three point six for residential construction,

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Speaker 2: up three point seven for non residential. The important thing

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Speaker 2: there is that the prices are still rising, but they're

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Speaker 2: not rising anywhere near where they used to, so those

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Speaker 2: increases are slowly but surely coming under control. As well.

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Speaker 2: Eleven homicides in the last month. Do we get all

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Speaker 2: angsty about this? From and I'll talk to the police

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Speaker 2: about it in a couple of moments. From my cursorround,

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Speaker 2: I've never been fascinated by crime, so that pulking horn

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Speaker 2: thing is like every time I go to Greg at

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Speaker 2: the Headdresser. It's like and he says, literally literally everyone

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Speaker 2: is gripped by the Polkinghorn trial except me, but apart

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Speaker 2: from because the either did it or he didn't, and

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Speaker 2: the judicial process will sort that out. And that's about

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Speaker 2: as interested as I am in it. But nevertheless, I'm

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Speaker 2: a lone wolf on that. So anyway, eleven homicides and

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Speaker 2: we I mean, from my curse regards, they all seem

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Speaker 2: to know each other as my guest. But we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to the police about that in the next half. Our

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Speaker 2: Ian Jones on the All Blacks, we need to get

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Speaker 2: angsty about that. Do we get angsty about anything anymore?

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Speaker 2: I thought we got angsty that everything these days. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but is it real ankst though, Glenn, or is it

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Speaker 2: just like faux ancs that we go We better be

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Speaker 2: a bit angsty, you know. It's like, Ye, there's two

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Speaker 2: little anks to go around, isn't there. That's what That's

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Speaker 2: what's going on anyway, all of that more after the news,

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. We seem to be and some sort

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Speaker 2: of homicide spiral. We've got eleven in the past month,

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Speaker 2: the latter and Kaitia Saturday night shootings to stabbings. People

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Speaker 2: are ending up dead. The Police Assistant Commissioner for Auckland

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Speaker 2: at North and Sam hoils with the same morning to

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Speaker 2: you very well, indeed, thank you and numerically speaking, how

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Speaker 2: unusual is this, No.

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Speaker 6: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 18: This is a big month for homicides. Usually we need

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Speaker 18: a much longer time period for before we can kind

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Speaker 18: of reach any conclusions around where this is hitded. But

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Speaker 18: no doubt about it. Even in a month is a

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Speaker 18: big month for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: And it's just one of those things. I take it.

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Speaker 2: There is no obvious connection, There is no obvious reason.

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Speaker 2: It just happens to crime and levoles and you know unfolds.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, look West getting across these as they happen, obviously

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Speaker 18: to see if we can pick up any early trends

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Speaker 18: or connections. It's on the Facebook, the normal mix of

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Speaker 18: organized crime and gangs and it can be harm which

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Speaker 18: has been with us since a mankind.

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Speaker 2: Can we say by some sort of level of reassurance

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Speaker 2: that the people are almost always known to each other.

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Speaker 18: Yes, it's a really good point, Mike. It is very

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Speaker 18: very rare that someone has murdered in New Zealand by

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Speaker 18: a complete stranger. There's relationships, whether they're through organized crime,

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Speaker 18: familiar relationships, neighbors. It is, you know, almost unheard of

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Speaker 18: a complete stranger is killed in the New Zealand context.

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Speaker 2: How much resource do you throw it a homicide? And

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Speaker 2: given there's eleven, is that stretching you.

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Speaker 18: We throw a lot of resources at these, you know,

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Speaker 18: when you look at the Auckland picture, we throw resources

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Speaker 18: at those that have occurred in the city from South Auckland.

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Speaker 18: Materiable engin and helped the team have done the heavy

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Speaker 18: lifting over the last couple of weekends, but right around

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Speaker 18: the countrary. You know, I'm really proud of the teams

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Speaker 18: that we've stood up of really smashed them working over

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Speaker 18: last month, and I'll have you know they'll be taking

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Speaker 18: those trolls forward over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 2: I wish you're the best one, so I'm appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much. The insight Sam Hoyle, who's the Police Assistant

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Speaker 2: commissioner of This morning nine and it's past seven a

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Speaker 2: new research into long COVID. Could it suggest to be

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Speaker 2: costing US two billion dollars a year in lost productivity?

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Speaker 2: That number doesn't take into account, by the way health costs.

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Speaker 2: University of Auckland health economist Paula Lageli is with us

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Speaker 2: on this. Paula, Good morning, Mornina. Mike, what is long

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Speaker 2: COVID and what's the definition? And do we have a

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Speaker 2: definite definition of what it is?

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Speaker 10: There is a WHO definition and there's a definition from

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Speaker 10: a group of scientific academies in the US, and it

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Speaker 10: is these sometimes new but often persistent symptoms of COVID

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Speaker 10: that still exist around twelve twelve weeks, three months after

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Speaker 10: your COVID infection.

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Speaker 2: And is that definitive enough for you as an economist

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Speaker 2: to put a number around it.

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Speaker 10: It's as good as we're going to get, Mike, So,

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Speaker 10: so I think we need to put a number on it.

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Speaker 10: And so at the moment without a diagnosis, there's no

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Speaker 10: clinical tool to diagnose from COVID. This is what we use.

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Speaker 2: How do you come up with two billion?

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Speaker 10: Well, we used we don't have any information from New Zealand,

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Speaker 10: so we used information from Australia. Australia had a really

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Speaker 10: similar pandemic experience to New Zealand. Obviously we closed our borders,

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Speaker 10: we lock down. Other countries have done similar estimates, and

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Speaker 10: the OECD has done an estimate, but that includes countries

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Speaker 10: where they had much bigger numbers of infections in the

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Speaker 10: early waves before we had vaccination. And so we've taken

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Speaker 10: the percentage from Australia from this paper that was published

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Speaker 10: in the Medical Journal of Australia and applied it to

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Speaker 10: New Zealand context. So that's how we come up with

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Speaker 10: two billion per year.

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Speaker 2: I happened to read that report the other day out

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Speaker 2: of Australia when it made news, and it interested to

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Speaker 2: me to the extent that what is I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're not well and you can't work, I mean, what

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Speaker 2: are we supposed.

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Speaker 6: To do with that?

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Speaker 10: I know, well, we need to support these people, right,

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Speaker 10: we need to make sure that they can get disability support,

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Speaker 10: or we can help manage and manage and treat them

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Speaker 10: providing long COVID support services. And obviously also we want

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Speaker 10: to avoid people more people getting long COVID, so we

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Speaker 10: need to look at prevention as well.

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Speaker 2: I reckon we've gone past that, haven't we. I mean

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Speaker 2: there's COVID in my eye or ear or feel a

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Speaker 2: vibe or whatever has gone into the category of it's

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Speaker 2: it's another thing that you get. It's like the flu.

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Speaker 2: It's like a cold's taking a day off work. Who

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Speaker 2: cares whether it's a cold or COVID or flu? Do

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Speaker 2: you see what I mean? And that's people's mentality.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 11: I mean.

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Speaker 10: And we've all just watched the Olympics, haven't we, And

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Speaker 10: how many Olympians were in the Tour de France. How

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Speaker 10: many cyclists and olympians were at their profession and the

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Speaker 10: peak of their profession, but performing with COVID and we

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Speaker 10: know that they shouldn't be doing that because that actually

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Speaker 10: exists a the chances of getting long COVID.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So if you can take some time off and you

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Speaker 10: can isolate, great, If you can wear a mask, if

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Speaker 10: you know that you're infectious, great. I mean, let's try

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Speaker 10: and avoid giving it to somebody and therefore lessening the

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Speaker 10: chance of giving somebody what may be a lifelong debility

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Speaker 10: to excuse me, debilitating illness.

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Speaker 2: All right, Paul, appreciate it very much. PAULA. Lad Gilly,

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Speaker 2: University of Auckland health economist, it's twelve minutes past seven, Pasky,

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Speaker 2: Like I thought the church and the state was supposed

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Speaker 2: to be separated. What are the Christians doing getting involved

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Speaker 2: in the government. This is the open letter this morning

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Speaker 2: from four hundred church leaders religious leaders around the country. First,

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Speaker 2: first thing is, as Glenn pointed out to me this

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Speaker 2: morning quite correctly, in an early sign that he's alert

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Speaker 2: and awake for the week and ready to make a

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Speaker 2: contribution to the program. He said to me, he said,

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Speaker 2: surely we need to bring an end to this open

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Speaker 2: letter fanaticism that we have in this country, and on

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Speaker 2: that I could not agree with them more. Second point

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Speaker 2: he made, and yet another sign that he could actually

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Speaker 2: be on fire for the week, he said, how the

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Speaker 2: hell do we get four hundred religious leaders in this country?

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Speaker 2: Which I thought was a very very very good question.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's uncharacteristically on form? For me for

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Speaker 2: a moment, it's not uncharacteristic. It's unheard off, is what

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Speaker 2: that is. And that was Can I just say it

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Speaker 2: was like barely at six o'clock, It was like five

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Speaker 2: minutes past six. The contribution was flowing in a way

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Speaker 2: that I could barely comprehend, and I've been around here

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Speaker 2: a while. I've not seen the like they changed the

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Speaker 2: coffee or there's something going on there. You're on the

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Speaker 2: you're on the shrooms or something.

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Speaker 18: But it was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, i've heard nothing from you since, so it's

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Speaker 2: an hour of quietness. But that first, like, I've fulfilled

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Speaker 2: my quota for the week.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm taking the rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: That early contribution was all we needed. Thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: Said, be it a sixteen past seven. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this Hipkins debate around tax and whether we need more

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Speaker 2: tax in this country will crunch a few numbers for

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Speaker 2: you in the next half hour of the program. Seven

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Speaker 2: a guy with us in the commentary box after rights,

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Speaker 2: speaking of thought the All Blacks heading home, of course,

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Speaker 2: having lost both upside as they will be taking on

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Speaker 2: Australia next to a turning out to be even more

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Speaker 2: useless than previously thought or seen. Ian Jones is back

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Speaker 2: with us on All of the Sea and morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning, Mike, and wanting to your listeners.

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Speaker 2: The quality of the game itself. What's your assessment.

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Speaker 6: Off fast intensity watching as a spectator, you're absolutely why

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Speaker 6: I do anyway might get exhausted because you're so in

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Speaker 6: the moment, and so you know, we've got a bit

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Speaker 6: frantic forward the end, which kind of going please is

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Speaker 6: calm if down people out there, and we needed those

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Speaker 6: clear heads, especially from Body, especially from TJ. But it

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Speaker 6: actually looked like all of it weren't at last ten minutes, Mike.

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 2: People if you reckon Body was on the bench for

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Speaker 2: too long and his head exploded a bit and he

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Speaker 2: needed to get all that energy out all in one

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Speaker 2: crazy sort of movement.

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Speaker 6: I kind of think, not just exactly Body, but you

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Speaker 6: know Darry as well. These big impact players very hard

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Speaker 6: in the frantic situation, regardless of where you are, Mike.

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Speaker 6: But to come on in those last ten minutes make

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Speaker 6: a difference. You need a little bit of time's been

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Speaker 6: starting the game to sixty. You know what subtle changes

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Speaker 6: can make. But we didn't make those when that was

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Speaker 6: an impact from the touching staff of the week before,

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Speaker 6: when those people came on and we gave away a

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Speaker 6: few penalties, et cetera, et cetera, didn't have conference. But

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Speaker 6: at the moment, I mean, the surbrogance are ruthless. They

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Speaker 6: are physically strong, They dominate you, they're weie you down.

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Speaker 6: I guess they got to measure at the moment and

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Speaker 6: they just hold intensity for longer periods than we are.

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Speaker 6: When we were at our peak a few years ago,

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Speaker 6: we could do that to opposition. At the moment, we're

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Speaker 6: just not there.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a very good point. And I

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Speaker 2: think we've got to give credit to the South Africans.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't one of those games where every now and again,

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Speaker 2: at the right time, the right place, at altitude, whatever

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Speaker 2: they happen to win. They are consistent winners. They're World

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Speaker 2: Cup champions for a reason. They are the best side

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Speaker 2: in the world and they need to be congratulated for that,

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Speaker 2: don't they absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Mike can remember also so playing away from home in

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Speaker 6: front of their fanatical fans, it is an absolutely tense quadron.

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Speaker 6: We want to win those matches. We went good enough

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Speaker 6: for the last two and my god, we've given away

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Speaker 6: the freedom cap. We've had that for a long long time,

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Speaker 6: and you're right in you're intro we have to hold

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Speaker 6: on to that. There's a cup and we have to

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Speaker 6: get some momentum before we go to Europe at the

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Speaker 6: end of the year. But man, what games of football.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm biased, Mike. When rugby's played at that level,

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Speaker 6: it's the greatest game in the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very high quality. I'll give you that one.

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Speaker 2: Although I could talk to you about Damien, Christy, Chanelle,

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Speaker 2: Harris Devita came to mind all of a sudden, I thought,

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Speaker 2: what's happened to people trying to kick the ball between

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Speaker 2: the sticks? Ian Jones with us. By the way, labor

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Speaker 2: really triggers me, Mike. While simultaneously spending all our money

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Speaker 2: and stuffing our economy last time round and appearing to

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Speaker 2: learn nothing from it, they want us to give even

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Speaker 2: more money for their next turn. Hopefully that's many, many

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Speaker 2: years away. It's that discussion to be held in about

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Speaker 2: tim and it's time nineteen past.

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Speaker 2: Damien McKenzie is who I was referring to. Of course,

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890
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: nine SCAR seven twenty three. Last year was the first

891
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: time in twenty years there were fewer cafes in this

892
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: country than the year before. Now that isn't a reality

893
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Speaker 2: check on the state of our economy. Nothing is so Yes,

894
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: we're starting to see some light I think some confidence

895
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Speaker 2: here and interest rate cut there. But the tail end,

896
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Speaker 2: I hope it's the tail end of what is likely

897
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: three recessions and two years has taken a catastrophic chunk

898
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Speaker 2: out of the economy. I read a piece on an

899
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Speaker 2: international site over the weekend about the quote unquote economic

900
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: refugees who are fleeing New Zealand and record numbers. The

901
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: most appressing stories about this country are the ones written

902
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: by offshore operators. We only make the news around the

903
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: world for exceptional stuff, exceptionally good or in this case,

904
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: exceptionally bad. Let's do a piece on a basket case.

905
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: Who's the basket case we can fight?

906
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 6: Oh?

907
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: Oh good Old New Zealand. Pandoro announced on Friday that

908
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: they're closing in Wellington. Now they aren't the first, obviously,

909
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: they've been a growing business lately. On stories about closing

910
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: hospow businesses in the capitol. The owner I thought was

911
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: interesting though it seems for him to be a mix

912
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: of COVID as people went home and not everyone came

913
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: back also of cycle ways and bus lanes killing the traffic,

914
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: and road cones and construction who are actually closing roads

915
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Speaker 2: and therefore access. So obviously the economy is in there

916
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: as well. So the question then becomes just how badly

917
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 2: do you want to hobble your city's prospects for goodness sake?

918
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: In Wellington they are laying them off left, right and

919
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: center as well. So a lot of people going home

920
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: forced home, a lot of people losing their job, a

921
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: lot of places you can't get to. An economy going backwards.

922
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: I mean, good luck selling Chibata for goodness sake. On

923
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: the hospital scene, a lot of people come and go,

924
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: always have. Really, it's like construction. But when the names

925
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: are a bit well known, it always strikes me. It

926
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Speaker 2: sort of catches you a little bit, doesn't it. Remember

927
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: Smith and Coey or in Wellington's case, it was Kircaldy's Pandora.

928
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: I mean names that have been around, survived a lot,

929
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Speaker 2: seen hard times, and yet this time they can't do it.

930
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: What's that tell you about how badly this place has

931
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Speaker 2: been wrecked? So badly in fact, we make international headlines

932
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: out of it. Pasking Doug what was Dougie's last name

933
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Speaker 2: Dougie Martin. Dougie Martin has just broken the world record

934
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Speaker 2: for pull ups. Is that the same as chin ups?

935
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Speaker 2: So he's done nine thousand, two hundred and fifty of

936
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Speaker 2: them in twenty four hours, which obviously what you then

937
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Speaker 2: do is go, well, jeez, that sounds like a how

938
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Speaker 2: many is that an hour? And the answer is three

939
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five, three hundred and eighty five an hour.

940
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Speaker 2: Once you've done three hundred and eighty five an hour, Yes,

941
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Speaker 2: that seems like that seems quiet. How many is that

942
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Speaker 2: a minute? It's six a minute? Six a minute? Is

943
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Speaker 2: I mean you want to do it's doable for a minute,

944
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Speaker 2: one every ten seconds for a minute, and after that

945
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Speaker 2: you're starting to work a bit of a sweat up.

946
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Speaker 2: You want to drink, you want to pause, and really

947
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Speaker 2: the second minutes touch and go. I mean that's that's

948
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Speaker 2: me speaking to be honest.

949
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Speaker 14: I wouldn't have made it through the first minute. But

950
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Speaker 14: congratulations to you.

951
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Speaker 2: But Dougie, Dougie's done hours of it for twenty four hours,

952
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: and he's what's he look like? You're a photo? He's

953
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Speaker 2: quite wide at the top.

954
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got and his hands are not in

955
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Speaker 1: good shape at the moment.

956
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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised he had blisters. Was he wearing gloves, well,

957
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, bare hand chin ups, which does remind me.

958
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Speaker 2: I need you to watch that video again of Simone Biles,

959
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: who is married to what's his name, doesn't matter, she's

960
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: married to a football player, NFL football player. They were

961
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Speaker 2: at the gym with the rope hanging rope from the ceiling,

962
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Speaker 2: and they did a contest whereby they pulled themselves up

963
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Speaker 2: just with their arms, nothing else, pulled themselves up the

964
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Speaker 2: rope to the top. And she not only won. And

965
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Speaker 2: remember he's an elite athlete and strong and powerful, or

966
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Speaker 2: so you would think. And so she not only won,

967
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Speaker 2: but she won by so far it was embarrassing. Yeah,

968
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Speaker 2: but he'd way heats more than her, wouldn't he. Yeah,

969
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Speaker 2: he's got bigger arms then, so I mean.

970
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Speaker 1: I'd been more impressed as she had pulled him up

971
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Speaker 1: the rope.

972
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Speaker 2: You don't know that they don't do that for fun,

973
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 2: But anyway, on this particular video, she is just a freak.

974
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's uplifting to watch. You get puffed watching it.

975
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Speaker 2: You're wear yourself out just looking at it right. Tax

976
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: Chris Hopkins is having a crack at a tax conversation.

977
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: Do we want to partake on this? Is this going anywhere?

978
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: We'll crunch a few numbers for you. Up in the

979
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Speaker 2: news which is next there are news talks.

980
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: EDB setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

981
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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut

982
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: from a different clath news togs EDB.

983
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: The reference I made to the piece I read over

984
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Speaker 2: the weekend economic refugees flee from New Zealander's cost of

985
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: living crisis deepens. I'll work you through the article because

986
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: a it's well worth reading and be mainly because it's

987
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: sort of unfortunately how at least some of the rest

988
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: of the world is seeing us. But speaking of the

989
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: economic trouble, Sasin Bide, which is a relatively well known

990
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: Genes manufacturer clothes manufacturer, is closing at Auckland store next

991
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: month along with nine outlets in Australia as well owned

992
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: by Meyer. There's only going to be four stores left.

993
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: They talk about online stuff and I just don't know

994
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: how much how much run while they got with that,

995
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: but they were founded back in nineteen ninety nine as

996
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: a denim label, so sold out of Portabello Market in Britain.

997
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Maya bought sixty five percent of them for forty million

998
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven and then they were so excited about

999
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: that they bought the rest of them. Now, unfortunately it's

1000
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: just been closed down twenty two minutes away from eight

1001
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: plenty of sport. The lads the commentary box after right

1002
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: Andrews Savile Guy have eld. Of course, meantime in a way,

1003
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Speaker 2: I guess you've got to admire and Cris Hopkins has

1004
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: begun won the long road back to power by two

1005
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: talking about taxing us more trouble as he sees it,

1006
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: because more of us are getting old.

1007
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: You can't say to people over the age of sixty

1008
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: five that they can have everything that we gave to

1009
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: people when there were fourteen percent of them, When there's

1010
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: twenty one percent and not increased government spending. The numbers

1011
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: just simply won't out up.

1012
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: So the Labor Party trying to work out what sort

1013
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: of tax policy they take to the campaign of twenty six.

1014
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: Denton's Kensington Swan partner and tax expert Bruce Banakis, Well,

1015
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: there's Bruce, very good morning to you.

1016
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 6: Good morning.

1017
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: Is there a case can you make a cogent coach

1018
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: piece of case to take more money from me?

1019
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 19: Oh?

1020
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 20: Look, I think there is a case there that Hipkins

1021
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 20: has raised that in ten years time, we're going to

1022
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 20: have you know, three workers for every retired person compared

1023
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 20: to four today, and in forty years time we'll have

1024
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 20: only two working age people for every one retired person.

1025
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 20: So there is a case for looking at our tax

1026
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 20: system and trying to raise more revenue to pay for that,

1027
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 20: because in our current settings it is unaffordable. But I

1028
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 20: think what Hipkins has disingenuously not talked about is the

1029
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 20: fundamentals of the underlying system, the fact, you know, we've

1030
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 20: got a relatively low entitlement age now by world standards

1031
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 20: at sixty five, and the fact it's not means tested.

1032
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 20: So he's wanting to tax us more without looking at

1033
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 20: the overall design of the system.

1034
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: Right, So there are plenty of ways to skin a cat,

1035
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: is what you're suggesting.

1036
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Speaker 20: Yeah, look, I think when you think about this, it's

1037
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 20: probably six levres a government can poll, right, so you know,

1038
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 20: it can tax us more, you can borrow more, which

1039
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 20: is what Hipkins has faulted to. You can raise the

1040
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 20: entitlement AIDS, which was labor. You know, labor has been

1041
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 20: in favor of in the past, and that's actually did

1042
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 20: in twenty seventeen legislated that and then it got unwhelmed.

1043
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 20: You can you can, you know means test. You could

1044
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 20: reintroduce the curve tax that we had back in the eighties.

1045
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 20: You can raise the immigration levels, bring in a lot

1046
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 20: more working age people to support the tax space, or

1047
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 20: you can you know hard, but you can try, and

1048
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 20: you know, governments can try and do something to increase

1049
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 20: birth rates.

1050
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 18: And so it's not just a.

1051
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 20: Tax and borrow discussion.

1052
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 18: It's like, let's have a look.

1053
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 20: At the overall design of the system and how we're

1054
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 20: going to afford it.

1055
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Speaker 21: Yeah.

1056
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 2: See, I'd been favor of growing stuff and making more

1057
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: and just keeping tax the way it is because and

1058
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: we don't seem to talk about that enough. But that's

1059
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: as doable as grabbing money off of the small you know,

1060
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: the smaller piece of pie, so to speak, isn't it.

1061
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 20: Yeah, absolutely it is. And you know, the projections going

1062
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 20: forward over the next ten years, the cost of superannuation

1063
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 20: is a percentage of the tax take will go from

1064
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 20: seventeen percent to twenty one percent, and that's what the

1065
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 20: cost of super doubling over that period. But assuming an

1066
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 20: increase in the size of the tax take. Now, if

1067
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 20: you can actually make this country a more business friendly

1068
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 20: place to do business, get more activity, grow the tax base,

1069
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 20: and that will also, as you say, become more affordable.

1070
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: So the politics of it all then comes into it,

1071
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: doesn't it. I mean the idea that I mean. It's

1072
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: the selling of the idea, not the mathematical mechanics of it,

1073
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: isn't it really, I mean that's the crux of it.

1074
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1075
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Speaker 20: And as I said, I think our politicians have done

1076
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 20: us a disservice in this regard. I mean everyone now

1077
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 20: seems too too scared to face into this issue to

1078
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 20: start talking about raising the entitlement age again, to look

1079
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 20: at means testing, and to have an honest discussion maybe

1080
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Speaker 20: about things like capital gains tax. You know, we've had

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Speaker 20: a full review of the tax system we did back

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Speaker 20: in twenty nineteen where the Tax Working Group recommended a

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Speaker 20: capital gains tax. We've got offshore organizations IMFOECD saying we're

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Speaker 20: an outlier and not having a capital gains tax. I

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Speaker 20: think we need to have an honest discussion as a

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Speaker 20: country about how we're going to afford this and making

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Speaker 20: sure people have dignity and retirement while not you know,

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Speaker 20: strangling the life out of the economy.

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Speaker 2: Isn't there a sort of some cute dos to be

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Speaker 2: gained by being an outlier just because somebody's got a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of taxes, Why do you automatically want to

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Speaker 2: join that club?

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Speaker 20: Well, because I think it shows it's effective, and personally,

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Speaker 20: I would be far more in favor of having a

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Speaker 20: capital gains tax, which has proven worldwide that it works,

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Speaker 20: as opposed to going down the rabbit holes of wealth

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Speaker 20: taxes and inheritance taxes and messing with the GST system

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Speaker 20: and all these other weird and wonderful ideas that cropped

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Speaker 20: up at the last election, and you know, continue to

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Speaker 20: pop up. I think a capital gains tax works and

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00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 20: are shown to be works and be far more, far

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Speaker 20: less disruptive and potentially economically damaging than a wealth tax.

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Speaker 2: This could be one of those things that you know,

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Speaker 2: when they talk about infrastructure and getting cross party support,

1105
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: this is a cross party support type discussion. So you

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Speaker 2: send it off to a bunch of experts to have

1107
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Speaker 2: a look at it. They make a recommendation. Two main

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00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: parties go actually in the you know, for the benefit

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Speaker 2: of this country overall. This is the bit we agree

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Speaker 2: on because that's the only way you're going to get

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00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: across the line, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: I think so.

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Speaker 20: And as I said, this has been a political football

1114
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 20: for too long. I have vague recollections of the superinnuation

1115
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 20: of cordback in the early nineties and Bolder and war

1116
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 20: and getting together, and it's like, well, it's obviously all

1117
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 20: fallen apart. We need something like that. We need some

1118
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 20: settings that are there for the long term and are

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00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 20: taken out of politics. And you know, people can disagree

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Speaker 20: about the specifics of the tax system and how we

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00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 20: pay for it, but in terms of things like means testing,

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00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 20: entitlement ages and basic design settings, you know, we need

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Speaker 20: bipartisan support on that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Bruce, preciate your expertise. Bruce Bernaki, who's Denton's Kensington Swan

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Speaker 2: partner and tax experts seventeen away from eight tasking Mike

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Speaker 2: I was informed over the weekend that Auckland University is

1127
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Speaker 2: introducing a compulsory undergraduate course for all in the first year.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at it. Funnily enough that you text

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Speaker 2: me about that, I have because we've been involved in

1130
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: this very thing. So when you say you're informed, I

1131
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: can confirm it's real. It is what nonsense and brainwashing.

1132
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: Universities are supposed to ignite hypothesis driven learning and research,

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Speaker 2: not in doctrination. It doesn't surprise me Auckland, like many

1134
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: other universities, have become intoxicated with power that they were

1135
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Speaker 2: given during the adern era. Yeah, it came as a

1136
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Speaker 2: surprise to us. And that's a discussion we've held at

1137
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Speaker 2: our household recently. And I tell you more in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen too, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

1139
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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by the News.

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Speaker 2: Talks that'd be Mike, why would we not make quy

1141
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: sober compulsory and also somehow make it an untouchable part

1142
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: of social welfare payments because we don't want compulsion in

1143
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: this country. Maybe you want to run your own life,

1144
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: make your own decisions. I'm not in QI sober, never

1145
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: had been, because I decided a long time ago I

1146
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: could do things differently, and I'm perfectly happy to have

1147
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: done that. And why wouldn't I want to have the

1148
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: choice and be able to have the choice. Mike, if

1149
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: there's going to be a capital gains tax, will there

1150
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: also be a capital loss tax? I could go down

1151
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: that rabbit hole forever. But you know what the answer

1152
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: to that particular question is yes. So the university. University

1153
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: has had open days recently and one of the ones

1154
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: we discovered Auckland's got this new compulsory course, which came

1155
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: as a real surprise to us because one of the

1156
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: great things about university is you can essentially do what

1157
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: you want. You go from the cloistered environs of secondary school,

1158
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: where you it's a little bit different these days in

1159
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: the year thirteen. You can pretty much take whatever you want,

1160
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: but you can find you still can fine, whereas university

1161
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: the whole idea as you go into this this wonderful

1162
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 2: space where you can study what you want, when you want,

1163
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 2: how you want, why you want, and you know, develop

1164
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: yourself into the wider world until now, of course, when

1165
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they say, well this is the

1166
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: course that you need to take. What we found interesting

1167
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: is when we were presented with this particular course, we said,

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Speaker 2: what what is it? And what we discovered that was

1169
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Speaker 2: fascinating is no one could explain what it was and

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Speaker 2: what it is. It's a Maori based course. They didn't

1171
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Speaker 2: want to say that, of course it's but it's about

1172
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: being Maray, knowing Mari, understanding maor understanding the Mari language,

1173
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Speaker 2: how Mari language and culture interrelates with you know, everything

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Speaker 2: else going on in the world. But they couldn't. They

1175
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: couldn't articulate that because that might be a bit you know,

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00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: I don't embarrassing anyway, So they sort of said, it's

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Speaker 2: sort of to do with society and how society integrates

1178
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: and works and stuff like that. So even they appeared

1179
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: to be moderately embarrassed by what they were doing. But

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Speaker 2: what you know about universities, it was once upon a

1181
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: time free choice because after all, you're paying. But not anymore,

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Speaker 2: not at Auckland, which is most upsetting, Mike. You're dreaming

1183
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: if you think that this is the tail end of

1184
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: the downturn, a rate cut or two or three will

1185
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: make no real material difference. This as a global issue.

1186
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: Germany and China are on the brink of and all

1187
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: out collapse. That's bollocks. And the US is only months

1188
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: away now from seeing the effects of this rubbish, and

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Speaker 2: it will be in recession before you know it. It's

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Speaker 2: very alarmed. It's nonsense, isn't it. China's got troubles, Germany's

1191
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: run by a basket case coalition of three, but they're

1192
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: still a fairly robust sort of economy. And as for

1193
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Speaker 2: the US, there's a bit of debate around where the

1194
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Speaker 2: Powell needs to go a quarter point and a half point,

1195
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: but you know, the size and the robustness of the

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Speaker 2: American economy is going to see no such trauma as

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Speaker 2: far as I can work out. We're off to the

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Speaker 2: Aims Games in a moment. Turn away from eight the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate hues talk said be.

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Speaker 2: Given away from it. Twong is a big week out.

1201
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Speaker 2: Thirteen thousand kids hit the Bay for the Ames Games,

1202
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Speaker 2: of course, three hundred and ninety Ish schools, twenty four

1203
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Speaker 2: thousand visitors in totally The Games. Games tournament director was

1204
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Speaker 2: Kelly Shiska, who is with us.

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Speaker 22: Kelly morning, Good morning, how am i.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, indeed bigger and better than ever.

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Speaker 13: Bigger and better than ever, as we are every year.

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Speaker 2: Good so the socio. I don't even know how to

1209
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: the economy. I mean, people having trouble raising money to

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00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: get their schools and all that sort of stuff, or

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Speaker 2: as it seemed to work out.

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Speaker 13: Okay, oh look, I think it's it's really tough for

1213
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 13: everyone at the moment, isn't it that. I think we're

1214
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Speaker 13: incredibly lucky with this event. You know, it's such a

1215
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 13: good thing for the kids who participate, and you know,

1216
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Speaker 13: the ones that are here have been really lucky to

1217
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Speaker 13: have their communities and their schools behind them in terms

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00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 13: of you know, sun raising that kind of kicked off

1219
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 13: with them in Sebrey this year. So so a year

1220
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Speaker 13: of training and a year of fundraising and now it's

1221
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Speaker 13: time to have a week long sleeper with their friends.

1222
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: What's the weather and track for the week?

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00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 13: We that is looking fantastic. Yeah, we've had a couple

1224
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 13: of really amazing days and it is magical down here today.

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Speaker 2: And the impact, I mean, the city must love you guys.

1226
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean the number of people in restaurants and sausage

1227
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 2: rolls and sandwiches and trips and stuff that are sold.

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00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 13: Incredible bananas, big markets are bananas this week on.

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Speaker 2: I mean it must be hugin put into the city

1230
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: though it is.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean last year estimated you know, estimated figures.

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Speaker 13: We're just under seventy five thousand mid nights to the

1233
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 13: city over the course of the week and six point

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00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 13: five million dollars bumped into the economy. So yeah, incredible

1235
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Speaker 13: for the city. But we're also really lucky because the

1236
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 13: city does embrace the event and really does welcome out

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Speaker 13: as it is and make them feel welcome while they're here.

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Speaker 2: Funnily enough, we were having a discussion now wider family's

1239
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: partially involved. We got somebody down there and we were

1240
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: trying to work out and trying to remember from our

1241
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: own is it about is how elite are these people

1242
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: or do you have to basically just the top team

1243
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: from the school.

1244
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 13: Well depends on the sport and the course. Schools approach

1245
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 13: it differently, you know. Just because we are at capacity

1246
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 13: in some of the team sports, schools can only enter

1247
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 13: one team in a lot of the team sports, or

1248
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 13: or at least in one division. But you know, absolutely

1249
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 13: across the twenty seven sporting codes, there's a lot of

1250
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 13: those sports that are uncapped, so schools can enter as

1251
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 13: many kids as they like. You know, and it's really

1252
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 13: dependent on the size and scale of the school as well.

1253
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 13: Some schools don't have many year sevens in year acts

1254
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 13: and they're sending their whole contingent. So yeah, well.

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Speaker 6: You have that.

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Speaker 2: You have the best of time, Kelly. Nice to catch

1257
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: up with you as always, Kelly Shishka, who's the AIMS

1258
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Speaker 2: Games tournament director. Five minutes away from asking of Regional

1259
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Speaker 2: New Zealand. One of the more interesting pieces I read

1260
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 2: in the Herald over the weekend was the story about

1261
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: Hawk's Bay. And I'm sure it's applicable all over the place,

1262
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: but all these jobs are available in Hawk's Bay that

1263
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: you would think, why are they still available? So, for example,

1264
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: you're looking for a boss of the airport CEO of

1265
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: the airport. That job's been opened for nine months. That's

1266
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: the point of this. This is not just a job.

1267
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: It's a job that's been opened for nine months. Why

1268
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: is it taking nine months to find a CEO for

1269
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: an airport? Is there something wrong with the airport? There's

1270
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: something wrong with Hawk's Bay. They're not a lot of

1271
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 2: people who want to get into aviation. Generally, there's a

1272
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: sider maker who's looking for a new chief executive called Zephyr.

1273
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: They can't find anybody the Cape Kidnappers, which is a

1274
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: beautiful place, fabulous place. They're looking for an executive assistant

1275
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: manager that they can't find. If you want to be

1276
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: a wildlife manager, do you know for the Department of

1277
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Conservation you were in one hundred and sixty one thousand

1278
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 2: dollars a year as a wildlife manager in Hawk's Bay.

1279
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: That's good money to be a while I've manager. They

1280
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: can't fill a job. Why not a whole bunch of

1281
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: health roles, ear nose and throats specialist. Can't find one

1282
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: for love nor money. Then I get round to Peter Hughes,

1283
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: who you won't remember, but he was the head of

1284
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: the public service. He was the Public Service Commissioner and

1285
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: he left at the beginning of the year. In fact,

1286
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: he told as he was leaving last year and left

1287
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year. They still haven't filled

1288
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: that job. Now, I can, I mean, who wants to

1289
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 2: be the head of the public service? I mean, really

1290
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: I think I can. You can see it if I

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Speaker 2: was going to be, if they said Mike pick a job,

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Speaker 2: I'd be the boss of the airport in Hawk's Bay.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, that'd be awesome, whereas being the head of

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Speaker 2: the public service and be boring airs. But that's just

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Speaker 2: me and there must be people. So how is it

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Speaker 2: that we have the situation whereby we literally and I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't assume it's not money. I'm ssuming there's

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Speaker 2: good money to be head of the public service. How

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Speaker 2: come we can't find people to do these job? What's

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Speaker 2: going on there? Let's do some sport with the lads

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Speaker 2: after the news, You're.

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Speaker 1: Trusted home the news Sport Entertainment's Opinion and Mike Mike

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs.

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Speaker 4: That'd be erspro's no.

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Speaker 3: No r comptor towards the upright and that's over, Tasamin Tesmon.

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Speaker 8: When the Red.

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Speaker 16: Belly shield for the first time in their young history,

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Speaker 16: can't don turn a.

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Speaker 18: Brigand side and I'll take it out.

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Speaker 6: And south.

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Speaker 15: Beat the old Blacks eighteen pills and for the.

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Speaker 5: First time, and siventy.

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Speaker 22: Finds the old Blacks close. Four Straights turn their old foes.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with asset and equipment finance.

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Speaker 2: Even seven past side guys Belt. This was as a

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Speaker 2: song with Andrew Sevil. Good morning to you Burday morning.

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Speaker 2: Didn't I ask you last week? Go house your new

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Speaker 2: job going.

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Speaker 21: It's great, Thank you. Had a very big weekend doing

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Speaker 21: uh well co hosting I suppose Saturday coverage and then

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Speaker 21: we hit our first edition of our new show Weighan

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Speaker 21: on Treckside one morning and then yesterday I m Seed

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Speaker 21: co em Seed the Horse of the Year awards down

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Speaker 21: in Hamilton. So it's been a big couple of days

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Speaker 21: but it's been outstand.

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Speaker 22: Who he's still allowed to gamble?

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Speaker 2: Good question? Good quite can Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I'm allowed? Yeah yeah?

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Speaker 21: Who won the award? Imperators did probably no surprise to

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Speaker 21: people who follow racing. She was outstanding last season. I

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 21: went to Australia and beat their best sprinters and was

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Speaker 21: rated the highest rated mayor in the.

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Speaker 6: World at one point.

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Speaker 21: She is a phenomenal horse and so she scoops a

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Speaker 21: lot of the awards. But it was a great night.

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Speaker 21: Peter and Dawn Williams, who have been long servants to

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Speaker 21: New Zealand racing, won the Contribution to Racing Award, which

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Speaker 21: I think was a whole lot highlight for many.

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Speaker 22: The We noticed Tarah's voices changed a bit. Mike a

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Speaker 22: racing commentator and they're coming around the bend and.

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Speaker 2: He's a different He's a different person.

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Speaker 8: Speak.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of celebrations, I sad you cannot beat the reaction

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Speaker 2: that you saw with the Ranfay Shield. I mean when

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Speaker 2: they one night, that's just like everything, isn't it.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, no matter what people say about it, and how

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Speaker 22: many people turn up to watch these shield games, I

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Speaker 22: think it was a good crowd in Napier two unbeaten teams.

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Speaker 22: Tasman never won it before. I think they started in

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Speaker 22: six when Nelson and Mulbrey combined. But yeah, just to

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Speaker 22: see the delight on the players faces, it was a

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Speaker 22: fantastic kick to win the game. So there's still a

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Speaker 22: romanticism about the Ranfordy Shield. It means a heck of

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Speaker 22: a lot to provincial teams and players, and we saw

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Speaker 22: that on Saturday night, and then when they brought it

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Speaker 22: back to Nelson yesterday, there was a lot of fan

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Speaker 22: fear and a lot of locals out to support them.

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Speaker 22: So I thought it was fantastic, fantastic, it's funny.

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Speaker 21: It's funny. I couldn't give a toss about provincial rugby

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Speaker 21: in these days. I really struggle with it. I find

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Speaker 21: it quite boring. I struggle with the product. But I

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Speaker 21: saw that pop up on my social media. I think

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Speaker 21: it was didn't see the game live, and it kind

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Speaker 21: of did stir these emotions, like just seeing a team

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Speaker 21: get so wild about a trophy that's been around for

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Speaker 21: so long. There is still something in some mystique about

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Speaker 21: the ram threw lea shield that just draws you in, doesn't.

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Speaker 22: There wasn't, and there was an intensity in that game,

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Speaker 22: just different to a usual provincial game.

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Speaker 2: And that's what the shield does exactly right, which which

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01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: pales into insignificance despite its excitement to what I saw

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Speaker 2: my highlight of the weekend that I discovered purely by accident,

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Speaker 2: and okay, you hit the buzzer if you know the answer.

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Speaker 2: It is a game played in front of a full crowd.

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Speaker 2: It's the culmination of almost the culmination of the season.

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Speaker 2: It was a preliminary final. It's the biggest sport in

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Speaker 2: that particular country, and it was probably the greatest game

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01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 2: of that particular sport you will ever see. What did

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Speaker 2: I watch was Ossie ruled well done, very well done.

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01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 2: It was Swan's v. Giants, and the Giants led the

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Speaker 2: entire game, and not by a bit, by a lot,

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Speaker 2: and so it was over till it wasn't. And then

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Speaker 2: the Swan started coming back and it was like it

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Speaker 2: was like a fifteen to twenty minute comeback and it's good.

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Speaker 2: They kept coming back and kept coming back and kept

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Speaker 2: coming back until they scored the goal that equaled the

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Speaker 2: game with only about a minute left. And then they

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Speaker 2: scored the goal that won the game, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: it's it's one for the ages. It's going to come back.

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Speaker 22: As you will see. Yeah, and we'll see that in

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Speaker 22: the NRL in the coming weeks too. What about that

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Speaker 22: opening game of the NFL, the Toe nail in it?

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Speaker 2: It was brilliant, great.

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Speaker 22: Game, the Kansas City game, Yep, that was that was.

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Speaker 2: That was a TV until you saw us toe where

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Speaker 2: it wasn't. It was the difference between it was a

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Speaker 2: game one versus we just lost.

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Speaker 22: If ever you wanted a game to open your regular

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Speaker 22: season and attract even more attention, that.

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Speaker 14: Was the game.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. And in fact that the game on Saturday

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Speaker 2: our time, the Eagles Packers, that was equally good too. Yep,

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Speaker 2: so they're underway for another season. And let me tell you.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what else I watched over the weekend

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Speaker 2: which you cannot see on New Zealand television, which is

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Speaker 2: a crime. Was the snooker in Saudi Arabia. Now, why,

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Speaker 2: when there's so many channels to watch bought, you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have a tournament that big that you can't watch.

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Speaker 22: Was a world series.

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Speaker 2: It was the Saudi Arabian master's biggest prize money ever.

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: The Saudis have bought the sport basically, and you go

1414
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: there and win a million bucks and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But all the players were there. Every player in the

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Speaker 2: world was there, Every single player, the best players in

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Speaker 2: the world was there, were there, and you just cannot

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Speaker 2: see it on New Zealand television at all.

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Speaker 22: Isn't a sport that Saudis haven't purchased exactly?

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Speaker 2: That's I see. I was thinking. I was thinking about that,

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, does it do you? Does anyone? Honestly?

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01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the it's the it's the politically correct

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01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: thing to go or it's not very acceptable. But honestly,

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01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: does anyone care if they've got the money and they aren't, not.

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Speaker 21: Not these days. And it's not as if China's above

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Speaker 21: borders it and they and they get a few sports

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Speaker 21: events as well. I think it's only a matter of time.

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Speaker 21: And I don't know how long this will be, maybe

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Speaker 21: another thirty years or so until Saudi Arabia is hosting

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Speaker 21: every Olympics they can afford it. They'll have, you know,

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Speaker 21: all these amazing venues.

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Speaker 2: All that Middle East. It won't be Saudi Arabia will

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Speaker 2: be the Middle East in general. But I mean, right now,

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Speaker 2: I think I think the start of it was the

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Speaker 2: World Cup, wasn't it? And yep, once you pay for

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01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: that and you can play it in the heat, that's

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: in human and no one seems to care. And you're

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: just build an indoor stadium or seven. You sort it,

1439
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: don't you? As simple as that? Should we talk about

1440
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: the all blacks? I think that I feel like we

1441
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: have to. Andrew Sevil, Guy have Bilt More. Shortly thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: Eight the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1443
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,640
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Speaker 2: It Balks B sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mic Hosking breakfast

1446
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with asset and equipment finance.

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Speaker 2: Right, save your take on the All Blacks.

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Speaker 22: I thought it was an outstanding game, again like joe Burg,

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01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 22: but very very similar. There are some glimmers of hope

1450
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 22: in this All Black team, but there's also some ongoing concern,

1451
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 22: clearly that they're not scoring in the last quarter of games.

1452
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 22: There's there's a there's a mental breakdown, there's a there's

1453
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 22: a I think there's a breakdown between some of the players.

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 22: The use of the bench is curious. I thought they

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01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 22: brought some players on too early in Johannesburg and then

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01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 22: and Cape, and I thought they brought a couple on

1457
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 22: too late. So that's a real balancing act which I

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 22: think the new coaches aren't getting right. There seems to

1459
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 22: be patches of the game where they're indecisive. The high ball,

1460
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 22: they weren't very good under. They didn't claim reclaim high kicks.

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Speaker 22: There's there's a few fair few issues in there.

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Speaker 14: Mike.

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Speaker 22: Will they sort it out against the Wallabies, I'd say so.

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01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 22: If they can't beat the Wallabies twice, then there has

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01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 22: to be even more serious questions asked, but there are some.

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01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 22: It's it's concerning because the same thing seems to be

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01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 22: happening over and over again.

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Speaker 21: I agree with that last point. I mean, look for me,

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Speaker 21: I go back to it again. Discipline, and yes, they

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01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 21: didn't concede as many penalties in terms of the discrepancy

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 21: between the two sites, so their discipline against South Africa

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Speaker 21: in that regardless, probably they've given away fo penalties exactly

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01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 21: and to yellow cards. You cannot hope to beat South

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01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 21: Africa in South Africa with fourteen men on the park

1475
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 21: for twenty minutes of the game. It's just not going

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01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 21: to happen. And they were dumb yellow cards as well.

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 21: Just so silly what I would say though, and I

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 21: tend to agree with sav there are some big questions

1479
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 21: around not being able to finish games, but they've got

1480
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 21: bloody close to beating what is clearly the best team

1481
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 21: in the world two games in a row now in

1482
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 21: South Africa. They haven't won them. I get that, but

1483
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 21: it's not as if I mean, you don't have to

1484
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 21: go and change everything that you're doing. They're not that bad.

1485
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 21: They're still a pretty good team, and I think once

1486
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 21: they can figure out a few issues here and there,

1487
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 21: I think they'll.

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 2: Be a very frequent thing.

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Speaker 22: The new coaches, Mike is still betting in. I think

1490
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 22: the new management is still betting in. Things appear to

1491
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 22: be a little more calm, but that just takes time.

1492
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 22: I think it's been still a massive wake up call

1493
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 22: going from Super rugby into test match football for a

1494
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 22: lot of these coaches and management.

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Speaker 21: Look.

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01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 22: I looked at that game and I came away in

1497
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 22: that game thinking if the All Blacks would lose three

1498
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 22: or four of those key players, I think this team's stuffed.

1499
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 22: I don't know if the players are coming through in

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01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 22: great numbers. I have a concern for that long term

1501
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 22: future of the All Black team. Let's face it, if

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 22: the All Blacks keep on losing, it loses the luster

1503
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 22: of that jersey.

1504
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: Hold on before you get two despondent. I mean they've

1505
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: lost to South Africa, who are the best side in

1506
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: the world. I mean, they beat England, they beat fig

1507
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: they tripped up again.

1508
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 22: Started I'm looking at I'm looking at that team on

1509
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 22: the field that I'm looking long term and taking a

1510
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 22: few of those names out, thinking what does what future

1511
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 22: look like. And yes, the South Africans they're an extraordinary team.

1512
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 22: They're on a massive high. They've got huge depth, very

1513
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 22: well coached and every word that comes out of Seaclisi's

1514
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 22: mouth is inspirational, isn't it. You go over the top

1515
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 22: for that captain. And then someone in Rugby said recently

1516
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 22: to me that it looks as though clearly the South

1517
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 22: Africans are playing for fifty five million and a huge

1518
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 22: passionate about that. The All Blacks appear to be playing

1519
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 22: to win.

1520
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 21: I think your depth point that you were just talking about,

1521
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 21: I think we're seeing at the moment in terms of

1522
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 21: they've got fifteen players there that they can put on

1523
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 21: the park at any time, but then they have to

1524
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 21: put some of them on the bench, and whoever they

1525
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 21: put on the bench in whatever capacity, whatever combination, they

1526
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 21: don't seemingly have enough players. This is what I'm trying

1527
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 21: to say. They don't simminly have enough players to sustain

1528
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 21: at twenty three right now, to be right at the

1529
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 21: top level. I think that's the concern. And then the

1530
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 21: other when as.

1531
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 22: You look at the South Africans, they've probably got three

1532
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 22: they've got two or three starting fifteen, which which you

1533
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 22: look back to twenty eleven, twenty fifteen, maybe twenty nineteen

1534
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 22: with the All Blacks. That's what the All Blacks ad

1535
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 22: as well.

1536
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 21: And then that's the other concern for me. They're going

1537
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 21: to have to keep trying to find the perfect combination,

1538
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 21: so that's going to mean more changes every week. And

1539
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 21: you can't get much consistency for these players if they're

1540
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 21: not playing with the same combinations every week. So that's

1541
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 21: where the concern for me comes. How on earth they

1542
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 21: balance finding the right combination but not making too many

1543
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 21: changes week to week.

1544
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: Dallas open this afternoon. I'll be watching that. Dak Prescott's

1545
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: been paid sixty million bucks a year.

1546
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 18: What's he?

1547
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 6: What's he?

1548
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 22: It's an extraordinary salary for guy.

1549
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 18: What had he done?

1550
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 2: It's very good question, and that's one of the great

1551
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: debates in the Generally, a quarterback's worth fifty million ish

1552
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: a year and he's worth sixty and they haven't won anything.

1553
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know how you explain it.

1554
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explained Jerry Jones either. But

1555
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: therefore he's the man with the money, so he does

1556
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: what he wants.

1557
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 22: Every Monday for you now through until December January.

1558
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, it's Friday, Monday and Tuesday.

1559
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 22: But for cards blends into the NFL blend.

1560
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's just I'm living the dream.

1561
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 21: Nice.

1562
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 6: You're off to Oasis, Well we go.

1563
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: Why do you need to bring up domestic matters? Why

1564
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 2: do you need to just get that little knife out

1565
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: and prick me in on Monday morning? Having Look, I

1566
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not going to Oasis. The question is

1567
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: whether we go to Britain as some sort of helicopter arrangement.

1568
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 21: But all you're doing is I want to sell a ticket.

1569
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 21: You got to go and where's where's the concert?

1570
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: Manchester?

1571
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 22: That's the end I'd be sending. I'd be sending both

1572
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 22: parents and Manchester. You've ever been to Manchester?

1573
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1574
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 22: My god.

1575
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: I stayed at a hotel outside across the road from

1576
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: the stadium, Manchester United Stadium, and at the back of

1577
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: the hotel was a canal and I lost count the

1578
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: number of condoms bodies just like back in of Manchester. Really,

1579
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: you know, I want to go. They're nice to see you, guys.

1580
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: Andrew Sevil guy had Belt two.

1581
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: Call the my costume breakfast with Alveda retirement giving the

1582
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: news togs Head.

1583
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: Be my is very good point. Do you know what

1584
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: I watched that you can't watch here in New Zealand?

1585
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 2: To watch the Bully horse trials? Tim Price actually came second.

1586
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: It's a very good point. There was a little bit

1587
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: of cabbage on that in sports news, but it's it's

1588
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: a weird old thing, the future streaming. I get all

1589
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: of that. Somebody goes, look, Snooer's available live on match

1590
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: room for ten dollars a month. But of course, is

1591
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: this really the future? So you're paying ten dollars a

1592
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: month for the snooker, X number of dollars for the NFL?

1593
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: Why number of dollars for the Burley horse Trials and

1594
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: all this stuff? You know what I'm saying, has thought

1595
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: becomes so segregated that we no longer collectively watch really

1596
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: anything together because we're all wandering down the road doing it.

1597
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean the Sydney Swans, I mean, how niche is

1598
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 2: that for me to watch that? For goodness sake? Somebody

1599
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: takes Sydney's one games was superb footy. Australian rules is

1600
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 2: the best football, et cetera. But I mean, how many things?

1601
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: Why would you.

1602
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: There's a whole virtually on Saturday, there's a whole channel

1603
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: dedicated to Australian rules football on Sky. Now Sky can

1604
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: do whatever they want. I don't care, but how many

1605
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: people are actually watching Australian rules football on any given day?

1606
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: And is that more popular than the Burly horse trials?

1607
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: For goodness sake, where New Zealand traditionally historically does particularly well.

1608
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 2: Kieren Gilbert is doing the business for us from across

1609
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: the Tasman. I gave you that polling out earlier on

1610
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: this morning that shows increasingly that the Labor government of

1611
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 2: elban easy looks very much like a one term government.

1612
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: Unusual for a government to only go one too, but

1613
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: it looks increestingly like he's got major, major problems. That's

1614
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: before we get to yet more developments in the CFM

1615
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: EU debate. This is the scandal around the unions, and

1616
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: the unions are starting to play this game whereby because

1617
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: they hate Labor. Now that Labour's sort of done something

1618
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: about them and put them into administration, they're going to

1619
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: raise money for the Greens and so the Greens of

1620
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: course potentially hold the balance of power on the coming

1621
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: election and could up end everything. So she's she's interesting

1622
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: times here and Gilbert after the news for you.

1623
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: The newspakers and the personalities, the big names. Talk to Mike,

1624
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: my costing, Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement Communities, Life, Your Way, News,

1625
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: Togs head.

1626
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: B Kendrick Lamar. By the way, it has been named

1627
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: as the headline act for the Super Bowl super Bowls

1628
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 2: not until next year, so don't get too excited. But

1629
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: when they do get around to it. Kendrick Lamar's your man,

1630
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: It's in New Orleans the super Bowl. Yeah, I'm almost

1631
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 2: certain it's in New Orleans. Incight into hawks Bay from

1632
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: an email over twelve staff Mike have left. This was

1633
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: why they haven't been able to find a CEO for

1634
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 2: the last nine months. Twelve senior staff have left hawks

1635
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: By Airport since twenty twenty one. Locals Knights are poisoned, Chalice.

1636
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: The board wants the airport to be an international airport

1637
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 2: like Auckland. Their expectations are not aligned with the little

1638
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,440
Speaker 2: regional airport that Hawks Bay is. They've had four CEOs

1639
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 2: since since twenty twenty one, four of them Finances The

1640
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 2: claim hearers are mismanaged the new airport builders mismanaged. They've

1641
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: created an extra road in front of the new airport building.

1642
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 2: They put the wrong entrance doors to the new building.

1643
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: They're being pulled out and redone millions being lost for

1644
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: the wrong design. It's interesting that might go some way

1645
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: to explaining what's gone wrong. They're twenty two minutes away

1646
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: from nine.

1647
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 9: International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance peace of mind

1648
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 9: for New Zealand business.

1649
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: So Australian we go to Few News anchor ex Guy

1650
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: News is Kieran Gilbert, who is with us in the

1651
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. Kuren, Morning to you, Mike.

1652
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 14: Mate.

1653
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: Now we got the government coming back this week. This

1654
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: debate that's been going on between the government you're spending

1655
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: too much money and therefore it's inflationary against the Reserve Bank.

1656
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 2: Who's winning that one in the minds of Australians? Do

1657
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: you reckon?

1658
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 14: Definitely? The RBA is winning in a sense because the

1659
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 14: polls out today show that the voters of blaming the

1660
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 14: government Mike for the cost of living pressures, for the

1661
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 14: inflation environment. The government's trying to shift a bit of

1662
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 14: blame onto the RBA for where interest rates are They've

1663
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 14: got a bit of flack over it, Mike, because the

1664
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 14: RBA is meant to be this independent above politics institution,

1665
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 14: but the Treasurer has had a red hot crack at

1666
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 14: the RBA, saying that the rates are smashing the economy

1667
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 14: and households right now.

1668
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 2: How's the economy tracked in your view, because I've been

1669
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: following it closely. We've already gone, We've had one cut,

1670
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 2: that's more to come. And for a while there, you

1671
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: guys look to be better off economically than us. You

1672
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: look to be landing softly and things were going well,

1673
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 2: and sort of it's all got a little bit crunchy

1674
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: of late.

1675
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 14: It is a bit. Yeah, it's really it's a two

1676
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 14: track economy. You've got people absolutely hurting right now who

1677
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 14: have mortgages on variable rates, and a lot of those

1678
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 14: people are well and truly hurting. Then you've got those

1679
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 14: that have paid off homes, the boomers and others that

1680
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 14: are well off, paid off homes and actually doing quite

1681
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 14: well from a high interest rates environment. And then our

1682
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 14: growth rate was anemic in the most recent quarter overall,

1683
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 14: but unemployment stays low. So yeah, it's a bit of

1684
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 14: a mixed picture. I've got to say, I think politically,

1685
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 14: if the government can get one interest rate cut, maybe

1686
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 14: two before the election next year, they should be fine

1687
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 14: and they should win reelection. But really so much of

1688
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 14: it comes down to that interest rate question, and that's

1689
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 14: why we're seeing a fair bit of jaw boning, a

1690
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 14: bit of pressure on the RBA right now.

1691
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: As regards the election, what's your call? When is it?

1692
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: You reckon?

1693
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 14: It'll be in April or May of next year, I reckon,

1694
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 14: And I think there'll be a March budget in the

1695
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 14: lead up to it, so the government can help try

1696
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 14: and set a narrative a message for their second term

1697
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 14: via the budget, and then they'll crack on into an

1698
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 14: election campaign. So I'm saying sometime April or May of

1699
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 14: twenty twenty five.

1700
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: Okay, this Royal Commission report into the veterans today to

1701
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: be given to the government. And do we know anything

1702
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: of it in terms of what it's found and what

1703
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: it sees and more importantly, what the government are going

1704
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: to do with it?

1705
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, we do. Actually, this has been three years in

1706
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 14: the making into veterans suicide. It's a shocking situation where

1707
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 14: the rate of suicide has been way above the rest

1708
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 14: of society in among veterans and serving personnel. It's been

1709
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 14: the Royal Commission overseen by a well respected long serving

1710
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 14: police officer, Nick Calvis, and it found that quite frankly,

1711
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 14: there needs to be a massive shift in the culture

1712
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 14: in the ADF. And Nick Caldas is saying he believes

1713
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 14: this is at once in a lifetime opportunity to boost

1714
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 14: the well being and health of our service men and women.

1715
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: Indeed, so there will be some sort of expectation that

1716
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 2: the government comes to the party in some way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form.

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Speaker 14: Yes, they're going to deliver this to the Governor General

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Speaker 14: this morning. I would imagine the government will respond almost

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Speaker 14: immediately as well, probably Ya the Prime Minister or Deputy

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Speaker 14: Prime Minister who is also the Defense Minister, Richard Marles,

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Speaker 14: and there's going to have to be some announcement and

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Speaker 14: almost immediately as certainly a response maybe they say, look,

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Speaker 14: we're looking at the recommendations. But either way, I would

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Speaker 14: imagine a bipartisan commitment to deal with because quite frankly,

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Speaker 14: it's somewhat of a national shame what we've seen in

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Speaker 14: recent times for our servicemen and women.

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Speaker 2: It's gone reading about over the week in Mark Irvin

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Speaker 2: k C Senior barrister, is looking into the cfmups from

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Speaker 2: this side of the tasman Kiiren. It's like I just

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Speaker 2: cannot get my hit around how crooked these people are,

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Speaker 2: how much damage they've done, how we've all seemingly known

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Speaker 2: about it, including the labor government, for years, and now

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Speaker 2: it's all you know. I mean, it's what a miss.

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Speaker 14: It's such a mess. It's a shocker. And in the

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Speaker 14: construction space you would remember Mike as well as many

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Speaker 14: of your listeners, this has been a problem going back

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Speaker 14: to the Hawk government, so they had to dis mantle

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Speaker 14: leg Construction Union at that time. And under the nose

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Speaker 14: of industrial watchdogs governments, this mob have been able to

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Speaker 14: be infiltrated by bikis, other criminals, standover people. And it's

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Speaker 14: not just if it's it's just them dealing with themselves,

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Speaker 14: it's fine, but you know, okay, well maybe we can

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Speaker 14: just let them damage themselves that they're actually damaging the

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Speaker 14: broader economy because they're driving up costs in construction and

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Speaker 14: it ends up hitting mums and dads and households anyway.

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Speaker 14: So I think, yeah, you're right, it is extraordinary that

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Speaker 14: it's gone on for as long as it has and

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Speaker 14: now this administrator gets in there and he's saying it's

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Speaker 14: worse than actually has been reported.

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Speaker 2: All right, mate, we'll catch up here one Wednesday. Apreciated

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Speaker 2: very much, Kier and Gilbert, who's the cheap news anchor

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Speaker 2: at Sky newsing for the next couple of weeks on

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Speaker 2: the program that, by the way, it is sixteen away

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Speaker 2: from nine Sky Irving's worth reading about. So he says,

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Speaker 2: his words, the monumental and massive, his words, task of

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Speaker 2: tackling the infiltration of the bikes and the underworld figures

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Speaker 2: and the broader building sector was going to be the

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Speaker 2: hardest job of my life by a long shot. On

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Speaker 2: the information I've seen, the union went very bad. It

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Speaker 2: went worse than what has previously been reported. They, he

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Speaker 2: refers to, the police, have been nowhere near close enough

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Speaker 2: to where they've needed to be. They've been ineffective in

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Speaker 2: this space, and they need to be better. Hard to

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Speaker 2: argue with that, isn't it? Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b where I was thirteen away from nine earlier

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Speaker 2: reference on this program to this piece I read over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Economic headline economic refugees flee from New Zealand

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Speaker 2: as cost of living crisis deepens. And that's kind of

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Speaker 2: the last headline you want to read about your own

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Speaker 2: country written internationally because it was on CNBC. You who

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Speaker 2: are a major operator amid high price is steep interest rates,

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Speaker 2: unemployment worries a record one hundred and thirty one thy

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Speaker 2: two hundred of its citizens have moved overseas in the

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Speaker 2: past twelve months. A lack of quality jobs for kiwis,

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Speaker 2: especially in New Zealand as younger generations, is accelerating the exodus,

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Speaker 2: with the trend unlikely to stop anytime soon. Once recognized

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Speaker 2: by the world as a picturesque and progressive safe haven,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's frail economy has pushed many of its citizens

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Speaker 2: to leave the country. Isn't that a depressing thing to say?

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Speaker 2: And it's from the outside looking and they quoted NYE.

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Speaker 2: Now this goes back to my sort of overarching vibe

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Speaker 2: that if you're down on a place, you're down on

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Speaker 2: a place, and your argument actually doesn't literally factually make sense.

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Speaker 2: They quote a guy called Wilson Ong who's thirty two

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Speaker 2: works as a manager in a buyer in New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: fashion retail industry. In New Zealand, you feel limited in

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Speaker 2: terms of job opportunities and what you can gain in

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Speaker 2: work experience. Fair enough, it's his opinion. He's entitled to it.

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Speaker 2: They talk about the number of people who are young

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Speaker 2: who have left. They talk about the New Zealand government

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Speaker 2: response to the pandemic, the lockdowns, the mandatary fourteen day

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Speaker 2: managed isolation facility and all the damage that's caused to

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Speaker 2: the country. But they then go on quoting this guy

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Speaker 2: on who says, I think a feature of a bad

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Speaker 2: economy is a lack of opportunity to raise your way

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Speaker 2: just relative to the cost of living. Now, that simply

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Speaker 2: isn't true, because one of the things that has got

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Speaker 2: us in the maya that we're in currently is that

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Speaker 2: instead of being disciplined about it fiscally, we then handed

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Speaker 2: out in the last couple of years just ridiculous pay rises,

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Speaker 2: absurd pay rises, and that just stoked inflation. So to

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Speaker 2: say you didn't get major pay rises above and beyond

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Speaker 2: the inflation rate simply isn't true. So he's down on

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Speaker 2: the country. He doesn't think there's much opportunity here and

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Speaker 2: he doesn't think he got a pay rise. Maybe he didn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But just last week I told you

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Speaker 2: about Woolwis who as part of their annual report, were

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Speaker 2: handing out eighteen percent pay rises in the last two years,

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Speaker 2: nine percent a year. Meanwhile, as the country's economy has

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Speaker 2: been sputtering in and out of recession, they talk about

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Speaker 2: the low wages generally and how people can broadly speaking

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Speaker 2: earn more in Australia. Then they go and quote an

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Speaker 2: economist who goes, there is little that New Zealand can

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Speaker 2: do in the short term to improve its economic conditions.

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Speaker 2: So by the time you get to the end of that,

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Speaker 2: as seen by the rest of the world, world, do

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Speaker 2: you think, boy, our image has taken a battering Ten

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Speaker 2: Away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike hosting Breakfast with the Jaguar f Base News

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Speaker 1: talks d's.

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Speaker 2: Living away from nine. Are you were wondering why tourism

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Speaker 2: is down in New Zealand? Might see him as the

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Speaker 2: article gives you a window on how the world views

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Speaker 2: as well. I mean, really, if a country's a bit

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Speaker 2: down on it's lucky economically, does that affect whether you

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Speaker 2: go and go a bit of fly fishing and Tapa.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought so did they say a doom

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Speaker 2: was one of the ones who'd fleed the country. So true,

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Speaker 2: so true. The Prince Harry of New Zealand politics Kiwi

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Speaker 2: billionaire Bruce Plestad Mike backs a wealth tax with a catch.

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Speaker 2: I see radio in New Zealand have started the propaganda

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Speaker 2: campaign on behalf of the Labor Party. They should be

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Speaker 2: called out. John. I think you're probably overreading it slightly.

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Speaker 2: I've read the story this morning. It's all over the place.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been reprinted in the here all this morning.

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Speaker 2: Plus it's an interesting guy, a very likable guy. But

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Speaker 2: the catch, and that's the critical point. And he makes

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Speaker 2: the point I would make if you want to go

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Speaker 2: down this whole Chris Hepkins, let's have a discussion about time,

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01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: at age and tax. It's not a matter of simply

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01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 2: grabbing more money, as Plus did quite rightly points out,

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01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: it's the wastage that worries people. You don't need more money.

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01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: It's like the health debate that we've been talking about lately.

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01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: I think Luxon, who's back on the program tomorrow, By

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Speaker 2: the way, I think Luckson's got a spot on in

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01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: the sense that you know, how much more do you

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Speaker 2: need for health? For example, thirty billion dollars a year

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Speaker 2: for a population of five million people. That's plenty of money.

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Speaker 2: So you've got to look at then. Instead of calling

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Speaker 2: for yet more, what you do is say, what are

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Speaker 2: we doing with what we currently got? And that's Bruce

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Speaker 2: plus Dad's problem. It's all very well asking for more

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Speaker 2: tax and paying more, but where's the wastage? How much

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01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: wastage is there and how much you you know, literally

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01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: throwing down the toilet that you could save and spend

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Speaker 2: more efficiently elsewhere. I think that's probably worth having a

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Speaker 2: conversation about five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 9: Trending now will Chemist ware House the home of big

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Speaker 9: brand fate amens.

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Speaker 2: But I do maintain I think I said it the

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Speaker 2: other day. If Hipkins really is determined to go to

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Speaker 2: the next election campaign in twenty six a within a

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Speaker 2: gen of more taxes, he literally is writing his death

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Speaker 2: warrant if he lasts as long as as that as leader,

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Speaker 2: And then his big idea to get back into power

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six is to go, guys, here's what

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Speaker 2: we've been doing for the last three years, having buggered

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Speaker 2: the economy completely. What I'd like to do now is

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Speaker 2: raide your pockets just a bit further. Do you think

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Speaker 2: that is a recipe for any sort of electoral success

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Speaker 2: at all? I don't think so. Five minutes away from Night.

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Speaker 1: Trending now the home of Big Brand Cosmetics.

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Speaker 2: Elton John he's been talking about Donald Trump. He's done

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Speaker 2: an interview for Variety and Trump and Kim John Ung

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Speaker 2: came up and he said previously he's not a massive

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Speaker 2: fan of Trump and his politics, but here's what he

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Speaker 2: says today.

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Speaker 23: You're not a supporter of Donald Trump's He loves your music.

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Speaker 23: How did it feel when he took the lyrics to

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Speaker 23: rocket Man and he used it as a nickname for

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Speaker 23: Kim Jong Un, and then he gave Kim Jung Un.

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Speaker 19: I laughed, was brilliant. I just good on your Donald.

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Speaker 19: I'm the rocket Man. Yeah. Donald's always been a fan

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Speaker 19: of mine and he's been to my concerts many, many times.

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Speaker 19: So I mean, I've always been friendly towards him, and

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Speaker 19: I thank him for his support. Yeah, when he did that,

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Speaker 19: I just thought it was hilarious. It made me laugh.

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Speaker 5: He gave Kim John and the signed CD. Yes you

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Speaker 5: know which, Yeah, I know. Because he hasn't heard of me,

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Speaker 5: he can do it. May be very surprised if he had.

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Speaker 5: I've never toured North Korea and I have no intention

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Speaker 5: of doing so. But it was I thought it was

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Speaker 5: a light moment and it.

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Speaker 2: Was fun exactly, and that's the way to you life.

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Speaker 2: When was that done? Was that recently? Does he talk

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Speaker 2: about his anything in there or not? We don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So it's current because he's got I'm reading over the

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Speaker 2: week and he's got some sort of eye he calls

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Speaker 2: a fairly serious eye problem. So it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see where that goes. Richard Quest looking Forward to his

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Speaker 2: Company on the program tomorrow will sort of go around

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Speaker 2: the world with Richard because he's a good brain in

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Speaker 2: terms of the geopolitics of the world at the moment.

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Speaker 2: So Richard Quest on the program tomorrow and Graham our

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Speaker 2: old mate. We'll be catching up with him on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Morning's program. Sobers a week on the Mike Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: Look Forward to Your Company from six o'clock tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: As always, Happy Days.

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