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Speaker 2: Hell you, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, one eight for Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the sixth of May twenty twenty five. We've just got

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Speaker 2: off here and heard a fantastic story about a woman

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Speaker 2: kicking heir crew in the balls repeatedly, so that's worth

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Speaker 2: the wait. We've also had a bunch of interesting calls

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Speaker 2: around something that happened at the start of the show

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Speaker 2: that I can't remember were first topic was. It was

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Speaker 2: being positive and polish about this great little country. We've

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Speaker 2: got some uplifting stuff at the start of the show,

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Speaker 2: people that love New Zealand and a real push to

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Speaker 2: shut the winges up in this country. And also that

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the meme memes coin shat. So it's

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Speaker 2: a really good show today, Tyler at a good time.

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Speaker 3: Yep, me too, absolutely, and we'll do it all again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So enjoy, sit to down load and follow and

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Speaker 2: such and good taste. KII all right, okay, then love

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Speaker 2: you bye.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 3: We'll get ad you welcome into the show Tuesday afternoon,

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Speaker 3: six past one. Hope you having a great day where

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Speaker 3: ever you're listening in the country. Get a Maddie again,

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Speaker 3: A Tyler. Good everyone. I watched a movie last night

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Speaker 3: that I thought was good. Oh yeah, and I want

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Speaker 3: to tell you about it please.

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Speaker 2: It's What's Inside. That's what the movie is called. I

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Speaker 2: saw it on Netflix and it's a It's a horror

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Speaker 2: slash sci fi. So basically what happens is is a

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Speaker 2: pre reading, pre wedding reunion and then turned it descends

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Speaker 2: into a psychological nightmare. A bunch of college friends and

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Speaker 2: one of them turns up who's become a bit of

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Speaker 2: a tech successful in tech and works had a way

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Speaker 2: to change their personalities between their bodies. So they get

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Speaker 2: involved in a drinking game where say, if you and

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Speaker 2: me were involved with some change personalities, and horror and

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Speaker 2: hilarity ensues.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this feels like a movie that would just create

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Speaker 3: a lot of anxiety.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty complicated. You might want to have

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Speaker 2: a pen and paper to write down who's becoming who, just.

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Speaker 3: So you can follow the characters as they go between bodies.

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Speaker 2: Because some people go between bodies pretend to be someone

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Speaker 2: else to confuse the situation, and some people make pacts

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Speaker 2: to say that they're going to be tend to be

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Speaker 2: that person, and then next thing you know, someone sees

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Speaker 2: their girlfriend heading on someone else and someone else's body,

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Speaker 2: and it's very confusing.

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Speaker 3: It's called it's wats inside. Yeah I've just said, look

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Speaker 3: looks creepy. Yeah, but funny as well. Yeah, yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: But like you know, it's a real comment on the vacuousness,

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Speaker 2: the vacuous, vacosity, viscosity, the vacuousness. Yeah, okay, I'll say

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Speaker 2: that the different way. How vacuous social media influences are. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: love it because there are all a bunch of influencers

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Speaker 3: Things you said were words, by the way, I was

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Speaker 3: quite impressed that you went through those and they were

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Speaker 2: That was briskiness, Yeah, viscosity, viscosity is more around the liquid.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, it was appressive. It was very impressive and a

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Speaker 2: There's some vacuous people in this movie. It's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Right on to today's show, After three

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Speaker 3: o'clock bad behavior on flights on the back of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a bad behavior on flight story. So

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about bad behavior on flights, what

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Speaker 2: their behavior on a flight, and recline when someone's dining.

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Speaker 2: Never recline when someone's trying to dine. I think I

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Speaker 3: Maybe a bit of tasering boot. Yeah, it is after

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Speaker 2: But the thing is, can you write it and make

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Speaker 2: Have you traded in a mean coin? Has it blown up?

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Speaker 2: Or did you make a whole heap of cash? Should

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a good chat, that is after

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Speaker 3: two o'clock, because right now, let's have a chat about

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Speaker 3: how you're feeling about this country at the moment. It's

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Speaker 3: on the back of a comment Sir John Key made

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Speaker 5: You still get that feeling when you come home to

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Speaker 5: New Zealand where this it's more than just look it's

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Speaker 5: a nice place to live in there. Every country you

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Speaker 5: I was primeans lot. We have tyranny of distance, always

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Speaker 5: been our problem. We're at the bottom of the world. Well,

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Speaker 5: actually technology is changing that very rapidly in helping us.

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Speaker 5: We also are very small.

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Speaker 6: So while we, like.

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Speaker 5: You know, I have sympathy for chrys Luxance pem slow

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Speaker 5: to turn around in a bigger country. I mean, can

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Speaker 5: we with the right policies, with the rights of the

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Speaker 5: we actually make New Zealand you know, a fantastic better

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Speaker 5: grow things, We're a beautiful place to visit. Do we

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Speaker 5: be more welcoming to foreign capitals. Smart foreigners want to

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Speaker 5: come and live here. These stupid things like, oh I

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Speaker 5: god's say, if they've got an IQ that's well above

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Speaker 7: But can we do it?

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Speaker 2: The answer is absolutely we can. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean that answer was a long winded way

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Speaker 3: to say that he's very bullish on New Zealand, and

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Speaker 3: I think he had some interesting points as he made

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Speaker 2: Well, we're isolated, but Tecker's changing that to a certain extent.

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Speaker 2: It still takes a long time time for our profits

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Speaker 2: to get somewhere. But yeah, we're definitely changes and technology

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Speaker 2: are making us less isolated in a number of ways.

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Speaker 2: We're small, there's no doubting that, and arguably that does

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Speaker 2: make us nimble. We can grow things, that's for sure. Certainly, again,

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Speaker 2: our agrotech is incredible, and you know, our our agriculture

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Speaker 2: sector is incredibly productive. But are we welcoming to foreign

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Speaker 2: capital and are we welcoming to smart, rich people, as

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Speaker 2: John Key suggests, we need to be. But I think

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Speaker 2: underlying all what John Key's saying there is that if

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Speaker 2: we have the attitude, if we have the attitude to

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Speaker 2: try and make our country a better and more productive place.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we are you getting that vibe

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty because me it's he

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Speaker 2: seems like it's become fashionable in New Zealand and complain

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Speaker 2: and say things are too hard, But are they really

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Speaker 2: that much harder than any other time? Or there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities out there. I mean, you're unlikely

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Speaker 2: to starve to death in New Zealand if things go wrong,

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Speaker 2: try something and they blow up in your face. In fact,

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Speaker 2: if you're poor, you're actually more likely to become a beast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So is it just a mindset thing it is?

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Speaker 3: I mean when you mentioned their ambition and I picked

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Speaker 3: you know, whether that was after COVID.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like we've.

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Speaker 3: Been in this malaise that we like to winge and

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Speaker 3: we think it's never going to be better, and we

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Speaker 3: like to say this country stuff we never used to

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Speaker 3: be like that we used to actually have in most quarters.

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Speaker 3: I meant of part of that.

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Speaker 2: We used to shame people for winging. Winging used to be,

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Speaker 2: but now people seem to be celebrated for winging.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two texts on either side of this. On

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Speaker 2: bullish one hundred percent, I'm just in the process of

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Speaker 2: buying a franchise on top of my business and employing

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Speaker 2: four more staff, going to die wondering. Good on you.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Whereas this person's the opposite end. So

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Speaker 2: where do you sit on this shl waye hundred at

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty? Where do you sit on the spictrum

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Speaker 2: around here? New Zealand is the worst place in the

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Speaker 2: world to do anything. I'm saving up to leave, which

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Speaker 2: is nearly impossible on a benefit. Most I can save

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Speaker 2: it's thirty bucks a week, so ten weeks and I'm out,

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Speaker 2: never looking back. It's crappier. Well, you got to look

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Speaker 2: inside that Text's a couple of things here. Firstly, it

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Speaker 2: can't be the worst place in the world if you've

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Speaker 2: been put on a benefit, because the worst places those

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Speaker 2: places of the world where the textpayer doesn't and hand

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Speaker 2: out a benefits. Right, You've got a safety in it here. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: it seems like they've only just started saving. Most I

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Speaker 2: can save, it's thirty bucks a week, so ten weeks

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Speaker 2: and I'm out. So have they just started saving? And

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Speaker 2: thirty bucks because a flight to Okay, let's assume they're

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Speaker 2: going to Australia. I'm just assumed here that this person's

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Speaker 2: going to Australia.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 2: You can get to Autralia for about a round bucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so they think this is the worst place in the

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Speaker 2: world and they're going to save their benefit to go

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Speaker 2: and that's teen So if they just they haven't even

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Speaker 2: started saving yet.

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Speaker 3: No, And I don't want to be harsh here, but

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Speaker 3: if you're not cracking it here, I mean, are you

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Speaker 3: really going to crack it in Australia?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

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Speaker 3: Are you bullish about New Zealand? And if you think

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Speaker 3: we've lost our ambition? Where did it go? And how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is sixteen past one. Love to hear from

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 3: It'd be good afternoon, eighteen past one. Are you bullish

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Speaker 2: It's interesting? John Key is out of touch. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: John Key didn't start off with fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Now we all know that. You know, he did work

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Speaker 2: Aren't we really saying that we should as a whole

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Speaker 3: It's like breaking up worth a partner. Some people will

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Speaker 3: Some people will go down to the gym and say,

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Speaker 6: I think I am.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, How do you think you changed that attitude so

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Speaker 2: I perceive is a bit of a winging mentality that's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure. Perhaps you could have have a campaign.

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Speaker 2: I think if you call Sharon, I love a Pollyanna.

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Speaker 2: I was going to call her. I was about to say,

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Speaker 2: I think if you call Pollyanna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, wrong, We've been a Pollyanna.

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Speaker 2: We love a Sharon.

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Speaker 3: Just just quickly with Sharon. I think she's still there, Sharon,

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Speaker 3: now creep when if I'm wrong, But you are or

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: And that's see your attitude is particularly good because we

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Speaker 3: I think if you call Sharon Oh, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Here's a text from a Rosie. Let foreign buyers in

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Speaker 2: over one point five mil just charge them in extra

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: John Key as well as do we know where the

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Speaker 2: puck is going? When we've got a bloke in America

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Speaker 5: To describe as unpredictable would be an understatement.

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Speaker 8: But he's put on these massive tariffs and what did

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Speaker 12: An enormous vomit from the stock market.

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Speaker 5: But here's the best predictor I thinks the market.

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Speaker 12: And that is the markets themselves.

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Speaker 5: They are not buying that he's leaving massive tariffs on.

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Speaker 2: When you put them on, they had a child reaction.

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Speaker 13: That's not been the situation for the last twelve days.

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Speaker 2: So these people are pretty.

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Speaker 5: Smart and they've worked out that he's going to negotiate

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: It be afternoon twenty six past one and we're talking. Well,

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Speaker 3: we've asked the question are you bullish on New Zealand?

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Speaker 3: After a response by Sir John Key this morning on

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Speaker 3: Mike's show, he said he was absolutely bullish about New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: But we've just got to do things a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, we've got the tyranny of distance, were isolated,

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Speaker 2: but tech is making that better. We're small, but that

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Speaker 3: We do.

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Speaker 2: But are we welcoming to foreign capital? And should we

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Speaker 2: smart to move to New Zealand. Yeah, Matt, your thoughts.

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Speaker 13: On this, Yeah, I can let the foreigners. We need

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Speaker 13: ringing up in texting giving John Key crap?

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Speaker 12: Who cares if he's rich?

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Speaker 13: It's honestly, but there's there's something wrong with a lot

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I find it really odd when someone says that person

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Speaker 2: to it, like the idea that if you're you're a

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Speaker 2: it could be an argument that if you're rich, you

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Speaker 3: A very strong argument for that.

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Speaker 13: Oh, it's just ridiculous, the mentality of people. That's why

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Speaker 13: I think that a lot of Key we don't like

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Speaker 13: Luckson because he's done well for himself. It's ridiculous. Do

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Speaker 13: we want a loser in charge? Wh Do you want

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because Luxon gets I believe, more hassles for

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Speaker 2: he made it from a state home. He made at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it was a big part about it,

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Speaker 2: It was hard, hard to really kick him when he

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Speaker 13: Oh? There, Yeah, we've got good things going on, but

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Speaker 13: We're not happened. The problem is there's I don't think

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Speaker 13: this happened because there's a coalition you've got that doesn't

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Speaker 13: like investments. So good luck for fat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you think we have lost our confidence Matt or

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Speaker 3: we're always kind of a little bait wingy when things

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Speaker 13: Come to a wingy, bloody nation that has become.

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Speaker 2: How do you think we changed that, Matt?

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Speaker 13: Well, God give themselves an appercuts.

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Speaker 2: I think they can be them. I think shaming people

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Speaker 2: So if someone's winging, if you start just calling them

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Speaker 2: think winging is now being celebrated. If you can five

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Speaker 2: five things to winge about, you get celebrated for it.

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Speaker 2: But if it starts to be a sort of a

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Speaker 2: social cost and political costs for winging, then maybe that'll

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Speaker 2: that'll change people's attitude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shame the winder in your life. Matt, Thanks very much, mate,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you giving us a buzz. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighteen eighty is the number of call love to hear

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Speaker 3: your thoughts. Have we lost our ambition? Are you bullish

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Speaker 3: about New Zealand? Give us a buzz? It is bang on?

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Speaker 3: Help us one headlines with Raylene coming up.

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Speaker 2: Hey, shut up, Matt says this Texter and your magical thinking.

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Speaker 2: You are always telling us, with the right attitude, things

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Speaker 2: will be better. Bollocks. If it's crap, it's crap, no

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Speaker 2: amount of philosophical thinking. Philosophical thinking that's their spelling, are

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Speaker 2: not mere reading it wrong? Okay, we'll change that. Would

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Speaker 2: you know what I'd say to that person? Well, the

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Speaker 2: happiness of your life depends upon the call of your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: As Marcus Ralia.

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Speaker 3: Said, it's beautifully said.

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Speaker 14: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. More than one hundred

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Speaker 14: people are gathered on Parliament's lawn, including Labor and Green

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Speaker 14: MPs and a snack protest called by unions over changes

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Speaker 14: to pay equity claims. The government plans to push through

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Speaker 14: legislation under urgency, skipping the select committee process that will

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Speaker 14: change the claim threshold. It's now paused unfinalized claims. New

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Speaker 14: Zealand's Police commissioner from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty, Mike Bush,

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Speaker 14: is coming out of retirement to lead police across the Ditch.

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Speaker 14: In Victoria. Police are investigating a man in camo clothes

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Speaker 14: trying to force an eight year old boy into his

468
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Speaker 14: car as he walked home from Auckland's Rowindale School in

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Speaker 14: Manoewa yesterday. He drove away in a white sedan with

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Speaker 14: offensive words scrawled on its sides. Parliament's Privileges Committee will

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Speaker 14: today be discussing to part the Maudi MPs who have

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Speaker 14: declined a summons over their protest. Hukker during the Treaty

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Speaker 14: Principal's Bill vote. See how one of New Zealand's biggest

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Speaker 14: property traders made five point four million dollars flipping seventy

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Speaker 14: one homes. You can find out more at Enzenherral Premium.

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Speaker 14: Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean and we've asked the question.

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Speaker 3: Now you bullish on New Zealand after John Key was

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Speaker 3: asked that very question by Mike Costkeen this morning and

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Speaker 3: gave an interesting answer. He was pretty bollish on New

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Speaker 3: Zealand loved it.

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Speaker 8: He was.

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Speaker 2: So I was saying before the John Key gave up

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Speaker 2: his salary when he was Prime minister. This Texas said,

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Speaker 2: that's a lie sless Smith that gets repeated too often.

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Speaker 2: He has only ever gone on record and saying he

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Speaker 2: would donate a portion of a sally, which is basically

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Speaker 2: what we all do. There's no evidence or comment from

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Speaker 2: him ever saying that he would donate his salary. That

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Speaker 2: is interesting on a look into that.

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Speaker 3: Because I was adamant that he donated as salary as

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Speaker 3: prime minister.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I says to Tyler, he definitely said donated sally

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Speaker 2: and you go, you see he says he different did.

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Speaker 2: And now I've just been trying to do some research

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Speaker 2: to find.

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Speaker 3: Out I've found a quote from him. So, okay, that

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Speaker 3: was in two thousand and nine. He was Prime minister

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight. I believe Key. This is

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Speaker 3: the exact quote. Key named in this year's rich list

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Speaker 3: is worth fifty million dollars said he was planning to

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Speaker 3: give away a chunk of the three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: one thousand dollars dollar PM salary if his party won

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Speaker 3: the upcoming election. So he made the promise in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and nine, so he must have been must have

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Speaker 3: been that year that he was elected.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a chunk. Yeah, I said all of it,

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Speaker 2: So I was wrong, and I walk those comments back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: likewise until someone can prove that he gave all of

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Speaker 2: it away. But either way, that still doesn't change my

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Speaker 2: general point that just because the idea that someone should

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Speaker 2: shut up because they're rich is ridiculous. Yeah, exactly, and

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Speaker 2: my opinion. Let's go to the phones. Phil, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 7: Okay, thank you, Our age is both you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, Phil.

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Speaker 15: Excellent, excellent. Now I've got about three points to make

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Speaker 15: here just trying to remember them hopefully, but I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 15: where the bloody how are you attitude? If you remember

520
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Speaker 15: that ad for the Aussie girl? And I say also like, yeah,

521
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Speaker 15: go to the gym. If you break up and go

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Speaker 15: to the gym, take that attitude and the positiveness, you know,

523
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Speaker 15: rather than put yourself in a cave and disappear for

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Speaker 15: months with you.

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Speaker 2: So that was for people that messed up before. That

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Speaker 2: was Tyler's metaphor, wasn't it your analogy? Yeah, there's ways

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Speaker 2: people can face tough times such as a breakup or

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Speaker 2: an economic downturn exactly, and go to the gym, get

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Speaker 2: yourself hot out and move forward. Or you can lock

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Speaker 2: yourself in your bedroom and cry.

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Speaker 3: Two choices.

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Speaker 2: But Phil you'll go to the gym. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, okay, good, Okay, that's the because I think, you know,

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Speaker 15: because I do dwell. Tyler sort of knows me and

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Speaker 15: knows that I battle mental health problems at the moment

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Speaker 15: with depress and stuff like that, and I've had problems

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Speaker 15: with alcoholism. No, I do dwell on the negative a bit,

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Speaker 15: but I know that it's no good that attitude. You know,

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Speaker 15: It's much better to try and be positive and go

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Speaker 15: forward like the lady was with the business that you

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Speaker 15: were talking to. But I'll get onto my points with

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Speaker 15: the like I think one the fellow that texts them

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Speaker 15: with the benefit and city was saving thirty dollars a

544
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Speaker 15: week to bug her off. And I thought, well, that

545
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Speaker 15: in itself says that this is not the worst country

546
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Speaker 15: you can be. And the fact that even on a

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Speaker 15: benefit he can still save some money to go somewhere,

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Speaker 15: that you even get a benefit rather than just being

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Speaker 15: thrown out in the street the thing for yourself like

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Speaker 15: a dog, which happens in other countries. So and I'm

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Speaker 15: not a rich man, but I think what John Key

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Speaker 15: Sears makes Sears said makes a lot of sense. And

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Speaker 15: I agree with him with the foreign investment part, especially

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Speaker 15: you know, let them and buy a house, and let

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Speaker 15: them and create a business and create joys and things

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Speaker 15: like that. And I think too that I think that

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Speaker 15: we have maybe because I'm fifty I'm fifty eight now

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Speaker 15: and growing up in that and sort of over the

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Speaker 15: years now I think we have lost a little bit

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Speaker 15: of that resilience that kind of can do.

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Speaker 7: Key we attitude that was like wow, things mightn't be great,

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Speaker 7: or you're struggling or whatever, but let's just roll up

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Speaker 7: our sleeves and get stuck in and try and make

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Speaker 7: the best of it.

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Speaker 12: I think.

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Speaker 7: Over the generations that has slipped a bit, you know,

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Speaker 7: just my general feeling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well think if you call phil as I've been

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Speaker 2: banging on this week and last week I watched the

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Speaker 2: McLaren documentary, fantastic film made by Roger Donaldson, an incredible director,

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Speaker 2: and boy it was interesting just looking because parts were

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Speaker 2: really hard to get into New Zealand. So if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to make a race car was hard in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: So a bunch of kiwis found out just worked out

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Speaker 2: how to do it with the parts they got, and

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Speaker 2: as a result they became incredibly talented and innovative in

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Speaker 2: making race cars. So when they went to the UK

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Speaker 2: and they had access to the parts and that they

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Speaker 2: could in the US, you know, everyone knows the story

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Speaker 2: of Bruce McLaren, and anyone that watched the f one

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Speaker 2: across the weekend or actually yesterday morning, we'll see how

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Speaker 2: well McLaren is doing to this day. But it was

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Speaker 2: quite eye opening seeing how they saw things that things

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Speaker 2: were hard and complicated, so awesome. Let's let's see what

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Speaker 2: we can do.

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Speaker 3: They embrace those challenges.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what kind of racecar we can put together

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Speaker 2: with the stuff we've got.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of that is right. They can

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Speaker 3: do Kiwi attitude and a lot of people would argue

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Speaker 3: that the government just needs to get out of the way.

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Speaker 3: That is that is the you know, as long as

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Speaker 3: people can try and better themselves in this country and

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Speaker 3: have as little red tape as possible.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this text from Daniel? Here

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Speaker 2: it says, if you're a super sulker, go sulk with

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Speaker 2: your sulkin group. We don't need that here until you

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Speaker 2: make it unconscious, conscious effort. We detect your life and

599
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Speaker 2: you will call it fate. Check your houses in order

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Speaker 2: before you criticize the world. This is not the end.

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Speaker 2: It is the even the beginning. It's not even the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the end. But perhaps it is the end

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Speaker 2: of the beginning. Daniel, I love a series of quotes

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Speaker 2: and cliches, and I think there's a lot very well,

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Speaker 2: how did it start off?

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Speaker 3: If you want to be with your your sulkies, I

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Speaker 3: did like that first part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another thousand texts have come through since I've read that,

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Speaker 2: so it's going to be you want to go with

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Speaker 2: your sulky lot. Yeah, that was something I agree with. Hioys,

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Speaker 2: I'm Australian. I've lived in here in this great country

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Speaker 2: for nearly twenty years. My experience is that kiwis are

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Speaker 2: and understated, unassuming bunch, which is both endearing but can

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Speaker 2: also be in Achilles Hill as it holds us back.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we could learn some from lessons from Australians who

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Speaker 2: tend to be more positive and boisterous about the country.

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Speaker 2: It's not arrogance but positivity. We too need, in our

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Speaker 2: unassuming way shout from the rooftops. We need to, in

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Speaker 2: our unassuming way to shout from the rooftops about New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and New Zealanders who are achieving great things. Maybe

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Speaker 2: some sort of public campaign to promote the change that

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Speaker 2: mindset would help. New Zealand is a fantastic place, with

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Speaker 2: fantastic place, with so many opportunities. We just need to

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Speaker 2: get our mana back to once again make it the

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Speaker 2: envy of the world. Chairs Ossie John.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you go very good, Yeah, very well.

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Speaker 2: Put look look at me like I'm a successful broadcast

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Speaker 2: and I can't even read, so that should be I

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Speaker 2: should be an inspiration to everyone.

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Speaker 3: And we don't need an Australian, you know, telling us

631
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Speaker 3: to be more positive, even though I really like your style.

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Speaker 2: As a John Sir Bob Jones grew up in a

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Speaker 2: state house, as did John Key, chairs Chris, as did

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Speaker 2: John Banks. So there you go. I mean start with

635
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Speaker 2: fifty million. He had to earn out the idea that

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Speaker 2: you would not listen to someone who's had a story

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Speaker 2: of success as crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: Oh, e one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call? Are you bullish on this country? And if

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Speaker 3: you are, why can you hear from you? It is

641
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Speaker 3: nineteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

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Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Sa'd be There's sixteen to two and we've asked the

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Speaker 3: question are you bullish on New Zealand's And a lot

646
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Speaker 3: of people turns out they are bullish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And a lot of people are pointing out though

648
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Speaker 2: that there has been sort of a malaise that's come

649
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Speaker 2: across a country over the last few years. And I

650
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Speaker 2: was pulling to the McLaren film that I watched the

651
00:29:51,933 --> 00:29:55,053
Speaker 2: other day from the twenty seventeen movie about Bruce McLaren

652
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Speaker 2: made by Roger Donson, and a lot of people asking

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Speaker 2: where I watched it. I watched it at in zidfilm

654
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Speaker 2: dot co dot in zi nice can watch it there.

655
00:30:01,573 --> 00:30:03,813
Speaker 2: It's also on Amazon Prime. But it's that tricky thing

656
00:30:03,813 --> 00:30:05,853
Speaker 2: they're doing with the end sertification of the world. I

657
00:30:05,893 --> 00:30:06,293
Speaker 2: hate that.

658
00:30:06,573 --> 00:30:08,693
Speaker 3: Well, Prime Prime is a great thing, but now half

659
00:30:08,733 --> 00:30:10,493
Speaker 3: of their catalog you've got to rent it all by it.

660
00:30:10,733 --> 00:30:13,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's on, but that's all right. You can

661
00:30:13,613 --> 00:30:16,173
Speaker 2: read films, it's fine, you know. So something's a part

662
00:30:16,173 --> 00:30:17,413
Speaker 2: of the streaming and some things you read.

663
00:30:17,733 --> 00:30:22,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I've just yeah, this is

664
00:30:22,533 --> 00:30:24,733
Speaker 3: a problem. It's too easy to just go into this

665
00:30:24,813 --> 00:30:26,853
Speaker 3: winging opportunity.

666
00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:29,053
Speaker 2: Listen to your chiler. There's an opportunity for you to

667
00:30:29,093 --> 00:30:34,493
Speaker 2: watch this movie in your house. Yeah. And and you're going, oh,

668
00:30:34,613 --> 00:30:36,613
Speaker 2: it's too hard. It's going to cost me four dollars

669
00:30:36,653 --> 00:30:37,493
Speaker 2: ninety nine. Who does that?

670
00:30:37,613 --> 00:30:39,733
Speaker 3: Fort dollars ninety nine. Go to oh bays I seeking

671
00:30:39,773 --> 00:30:42,893
Speaker 3: of it. He's successful. One undred eighty ten eighty is

672
00:30:42,933 --> 00:30:45,493
Speaker 3: the number to call Bob, how are you?

673
00:30:46,693 --> 00:30:53,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi guys. Yeah, I'm almost eighty two year old

674
00:30:53,373 --> 00:30:59,213
Speaker 4: Kiwi and a successful business man. I left New Zille

675
00:30:59,293 --> 00:31:05,213
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty four and went to Australia and ended

676
00:31:05,253 --> 00:31:09,973
Speaker 4: up getting involved in the oil and guests industry and

677
00:31:10,813 --> 00:31:18,693
Speaker 4: set up. I developed, invented and developed six different tools

678
00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:24,253
Speaker 4: for the industry and great. I think New Zealand right

679
00:31:24,293 --> 00:31:29,333
Speaker 4: now is an incredible place for opportunity and I think

680
00:31:29,373 --> 00:31:33,933
Speaker 4: if the New Zealand public sticks with Christopher Luxeen, he

681
00:31:34,013 --> 00:31:38,853
Speaker 4: will lead this country into prosperity in the very near future.

682
00:31:40,653 --> 00:31:42,053
Speaker 2: Hanneya, do you think that is, Bob?

683
00:31:43,453 --> 00:31:44,893
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Hanneya.

684
00:31:44,973 --> 00:31:47,373
Speaker 2: Do you think your prosperity is half far around the corner?

685
00:31:48,173 --> 00:31:50,733
Speaker 4: Well? I think he needs at least one more turns

686
00:31:51,253 --> 00:31:54,173
Speaker 4: and he will get things on track. And he's doing

687
00:31:54,213 --> 00:31:59,373
Speaker 4: that already, laying the foundation for that. I think he's remarkable.

688
00:32:00,173 --> 00:32:03,973
Speaker 4: He's got a lot behind him that proves that he's

689
00:32:03,973 --> 00:32:05,373
Speaker 4: capable of doing the job.

690
00:32:05,613 --> 00:32:09,333
Speaker 3: What do you think he's doing well, Bob, him and

691
00:32:09,373 --> 00:32:10,853
Speaker 3: his team. To be fair, you know he's got a

692
00:32:10,853 --> 00:32:13,013
Speaker 3: team behind him which needs to be acknowledged a little bit.

693
00:32:14,693 --> 00:32:18,573
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, Yeah, but you can't run an operation.

694
00:32:18,933 --> 00:32:23,693
Speaker 4: It's a business. Being in control of the government, the administration,

695
00:32:24,173 --> 00:32:28,373
Speaker 4: you're running a business. Yeah, it's not a plaything on

696
00:32:28,453 --> 00:32:30,133
Speaker 4: the side, it's a business.

697
00:32:30,253 --> 00:32:30,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

698
00:32:31,133 --> 00:32:33,853
Speaker 3: Well, Bob, thank you very much for your thoughts. Really

699
00:32:33,893 --> 00:32:36,493
Speaker 3: appreciate it. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

700
00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:39,973
Speaker 3: number to call. I think it's fair to say that

701
00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:44,213
Speaker 3: Christoph Luxen does get a fair wack of criticism, and

702
00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:47,213
Speaker 3: I think some of that would be considered fair because,

703
00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:48,693
Speaker 3: I mean, lock he's got a lot to.

704
00:32:48,773 --> 00:32:51,013
Speaker 2: Do to turn this country around, in the economy around.

705
00:32:51,453 --> 00:32:55,173
Speaker 3: Some would argue that they are starting to make some moves,

706
00:32:55,213 --> 00:32:56,533
Speaker 3: but it's not fast enough.

707
00:32:56,813 --> 00:32:59,173
Speaker 2: It's weird. The criticism that we have for him now

708
00:32:59,413 --> 00:33:01,453
Speaker 2: is a lot of it is style. It's how he

709
00:33:01,493 --> 00:33:04,693
Speaker 2: answers questions, how he presents how and you know, people

710
00:33:04,693 --> 00:33:06,533
Speaker 2: talk about is he winning people over with how he's

711
00:33:06,893 --> 00:33:09,293
Speaker 2: directing his message. I find that the strain and the

712
00:33:09,533 --> 00:33:12,533
Speaker 2: strangest analysis of politics. You know, if you watch a

713
00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:14,813
Speaker 2: debate and afterwards they debate how they came across, they

714
00:33:14,813 --> 00:33:18,293
Speaker 2: don't debate the substance of what they're written down, And

715
00:33:18,293 --> 00:33:20,213
Speaker 2: that's just the way things are these days. I guess,

716
00:33:20,213 --> 00:33:22,093
Speaker 2: and that's part of the game of politics. But I

717
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:26,493
Speaker 2: think so much of the criticism of Chris Luxen is

718
00:33:26,693 --> 00:33:29,333
Speaker 2: on style as opposed to substance. Guys, you're missing the

719
00:33:29,373 --> 00:33:31,213
Speaker 2: obvious point here, says this text to money is not

720
00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:34,693
Speaker 2: the infinite measure of success. Yes, it's a marker, but

721
00:33:34,773 --> 00:33:36,973
Speaker 2: there are far greater things to measure success than how

722
00:33:37,053 --> 00:33:39,213
Speaker 2: much money I've made in my lifetime. Perhaps this is

723
00:33:39,213 --> 00:33:43,533
Speaker 2: why we don't listen or discount those people. Yeah, I

724
00:33:43,573 --> 00:33:45,853
Speaker 2: mean that is one hundred percent true. I think there

725
00:33:45,853 --> 00:33:47,813
Speaker 2: are so many markers of someone being a good person.

726
00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:50,813
Speaker 2: But my argument was the idea that you would rule

727
00:33:50,893 --> 00:33:54,733
Speaker 2: someone out as a bunch of text messages have someone's

728
00:33:54,733 --> 00:33:58,653
Speaker 2: opinion just because they're rich. That seems like a crazy

729
00:33:58,693 --> 00:34:01,693
Speaker 2: idea to me. But absolutely, there are so many more markers.

730
00:34:01,453 --> 00:34:04,173
Speaker 2: There's plenty of evil people that are rich, but there's

731
00:34:04,213 --> 00:34:06,173
Speaker 2: some great people that are rich. There's also a lot

732
00:34:06,213 --> 00:34:07,093
Speaker 2: of evil poor people.

733
00:34:07,253 --> 00:34:08,133
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly.

734
00:34:09,013 --> 00:34:11,493
Speaker 2: So where you sit financially, I don't think has anything

735
00:34:11,533 --> 00:34:13,853
Speaker 2: to do with whether you should be listened to or not.

736
00:34:14,773 --> 00:34:16,053
Speaker 3: Helga, how are you?

737
00:34:16,973 --> 00:34:20,933
Speaker 16: Oh Hello, I'm a city secker for three lamps points

738
00:34:20,973 --> 00:34:24,813
Speaker 16: and I went work in nineteen sixty four when I

739
00:34:24,893 --> 00:34:29,773
Speaker 16: was sixteen, And my opinion now watching the history of

740
00:34:29,893 --> 00:34:33,973
Speaker 16: business and jobs in New Zealand, everyone had a job

741
00:34:34,053 --> 00:34:37,373
Speaker 16: in the sixties and seventies, and I think the business

742
00:34:37,373 --> 00:34:41,253
Speaker 16: has made a big mistake of putting the jobs overseas

743
00:34:41,293 --> 00:34:44,213
Speaker 16: because a lot of New Zealand has lost their jobs.

744
00:34:45,733 --> 00:34:48,893
Speaker 16: And that made a big difference. On the shoe factories.

745
00:34:48,933 --> 00:34:53,013
Speaker 16: They're clothing factories. They made just about everything here except

746
00:34:53,413 --> 00:34:56,013
Speaker 16: humber cars came in and that was the factories.

747
00:34:56,373 --> 00:34:59,373
Speaker 2: So you support you would support Helger, you would support

748
00:34:59,493 --> 00:35:02,933
Speaker 2: Trump style tariffs to bring back manufacturing to New Zealand.

749
00:35:03,773 --> 00:35:06,773
Speaker 16: No, I just think they were very foolish to do that.

750
00:35:06,853 --> 00:35:11,173
Speaker 16: Because I was reading China's made a big ballistic missile.

751
00:35:11,253 --> 00:35:14,652
Speaker 16: It's on the news today. It's huge no Korea, so

752
00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:19,013
Speaker 16: all these people are thinking about war, whereas I think

753
00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:22,293
Speaker 16: giving New Zealanders jobs, we don't want all these people

754
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:25,493
Speaker 16: on the unemployment. I mean I was unemployed the odd tom,

755
00:35:25,533 --> 00:35:27,732
Speaker 16: but I've always got a job. I've got one brother

756
00:35:27,773 --> 00:35:30,853
Speaker 16: who's a millionaire in their sets. I've got a son

757
00:35:30,933 --> 00:35:33,373
Speaker 16: and a grand side geral businessman.

758
00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:37,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you for your Elga Helga Ala Alger's

759
00:35:37,533 --> 00:35:37,733
Speaker 2: not a.

760
00:35:37,773 --> 00:35:40,573
Speaker 3: Name, Helger. But look, I mean to your point about

761
00:35:40,613 --> 00:35:43,053
Speaker 3: what Trump is trying to do in America, I think

762
00:35:43,093 --> 00:35:46,053
Speaker 3: that's exactly what Elga wanted to do in New Zealand. Look,

763
00:35:46,093 --> 00:35:48,173
Speaker 3: and that's you know, part of the point is that

764
00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:50,533
Speaker 3: is what Trump is trying to do is bring manufacturing

765
00:35:50,733 --> 00:35:53,253
Speaker 3: jobs back to America, rightly or wrongly, whether that's a.

766
00:35:53,253 --> 00:35:55,333
Speaker 2: Strategy annoying if you're in New Zealand if he does that,

767
00:35:55,413 --> 00:35:57,493
Speaker 2: especially if you're in the film industry. Yeah, if he

768
00:35:57,573 --> 00:36:00,813
Speaker 2: says that every movie has to be made in America

769
00:36:01,733 --> 00:36:05,093
Speaker 2: instead of overseas, that's a problem for them. But what

770
00:36:05,373 --> 00:36:07,893
Speaker 2: Alga's saying is, you know, that's how you know New

771
00:36:07,973 --> 00:36:09,813
Speaker 2: Zealand to be like that. We did. We used to

772
00:36:09,853 --> 00:36:14,172
Speaker 2: be a very protectionist under Muldoon until eighty four when

773
00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:16,133
Speaker 2: that longer government came in and changed that.

774
00:36:16,373 --> 00:36:19,013
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, it is nine to two. We'll take a

775
00:36:19,013 --> 00:36:21,013
Speaker 3: few more calls very shortly, oh eight hundred and eighty

776
00:36:21,093 --> 00:36:23,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Keen to hear your views on this.

777
00:36:25,213 --> 00:36:28,413
Speaker 1: Mad Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

778
00:36:28,493 --> 00:36:32,172
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

779
00:36:32,293 --> 00:36:33,692
Speaker 1: news TALKSB.

780
00:36:34,093 --> 00:36:36,613
Speaker 3: News talks there be and we're talking about well, we'll

781
00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:38,973
Speaker 3: ask the question, are you bullish on New Zealand get

782
00:36:38,973 --> 00:36:39,333
Speaker 3: a berry?

783
00:36:40,933 --> 00:36:42,893
Speaker 11: Yeah, guys, tell you very good.

784
00:36:42,933 --> 00:36:45,293
Speaker 3: Are you positive about the future of New Zealand.

785
00:36:46,693 --> 00:36:49,893
Speaker 11: I've always been positive at our wonderful country, you know,

786
00:36:50,053 --> 00:36:52,692
Speaker 11: I've been fortunate that the travel of the world being

787
00:36:52,773 --> 00:36:56,093
Speaker 11: at all sorts of places, and frankly speaking, there's a

788
00:36:56,133 --> 00:36:58,773
Speaker 11: lot of people in this country that if only they

789
00:36:58,813 --> 00:37:00,812
Speaker 11: could go to some of these countries and just see

790
00:37:00,813 --> 00:37:03,212
Speaker 11: how the other half live, I think it'd really wake

791
00:37:03,293 --> 00:37:06,172
Speaker 11: them up. But I've got a good idea. Let's put

792
00:37:06,213 --> 00:37:10,413
Speaker 11: all the Polley's on the left, Greeny Green of politicians,

793
00:37:11,053 --> 00:37:14,333
Speaker 11: most of the Labor Party teaparty Mary, get them on

794
00:37:14,413 --> 00:37:17,853
Speaker 11: those seven five seven Air Force chits, fly them off

795
00:37:17,893 --> 00:37:21,333
Speaker 11: to somewhere like Ol Salvador or Iran or something like that,

796
00:37:21,413 --> 00:37:24,013
Speaker 11: and hopefully they break down and they never come back

797
00:37:24,053 --> 00:37:27,053
Speaker 11: because there's a lot of negativity there. They bring nothing

798
00:37:27,173 --> 00:37:30,453
Speaker 11: positive to New Zealand. They're always kicking. And the other

799
00:37:30,533 --> 00:37:33,573
Speaker 11: thing is the TV news. Some of those people on

800
00:37:33,653 --> 00:37:36,133
Speaker 11: TV news, I mean, I don't watch it now, just

801
00:37:36,533 --> 00:37:40,853
Speaker 11: everything's you know, free starts and there's always the next moment.

802
00:37:40,893 --> 00:37:43,773
Speaker 11: It's but this is wrong, but that's wrong.

803
00:37:43,933 --> 00:37:47,292
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's always a but yeah, I agree, Barry.

804
00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:49,453
Speaker 3: And you've got to say, look, we I work in

805
00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:53,013
Speaker 3: the media, obviously, but I came to the conclusion that

806
00:37:53,333 --> 00:37:55,813
Speaker 3: just because media tells me to worry about something, I've

807
00:37:55,853 --> 00:37:58,093
Speaker 3: got to worry about it. I mean, gone to those days,

808
00:37:58,133 --> 00:38:03,133
Speaker 3: because then you fall into that same spiral of negativity,

809
00:38:03,173 --> 00:38:06,333
Speaker 3: that there's always something wrong with with the story. As

810
00:38:06,373 --> 00:38:08,973
Speaker 3: you say, whereas you know we to be I think

811
00:38:08,973 --> 00:38:10,773
Speaker 3: we used to be a country. Maybe I am being

812
00:38:10,773 --> 00:38:12,533
Speaker 3: too much of a Pollyanny here, but we used to

813
00:38:12,613 --> 00:38:15,093
Speaker 3: be more ambitious, and we used to be more confident,

814
00:38:15,093 --> 00:38:16,813
Speaker 3: and we used to back ourselves a lot more.

815
00:38:18,493 --> 00:38:18,732
Speaker 8: Yeah.

816
00:38:18,773 --> 00:38:24,133
Speaker 11: Well, look, look, this country breeds wonderful kids. There's so

817
00:38:24,253 --> 00:38:26,692
Speaker 11: many good, you know, young people that grow up into

818
00:38:26,733 --> 00:38:28,813
Speaker 11: this world. I've got a couple of three myself, and

819
00:38:29,253 --> 00:38:31,813
Speaker 11: you know, you see, you know the schooling, you know,

820
00:38:31,853 --> 00:38:34,493
Speaker 11: buy and buy is excellent. You know, you can go

821
00:38:34,533 --> 00:38:37,813
Speaker 11: to public schools and get a great education. You know,

822
00:38:37,893 --> 00:38:40,933
Speaker 11: the house this system is pretty damn good. Let's face it,

823
00:38:40,973 --> 00:38:44,212
Speaker 11: there will never be enough money, but you know, we're

824
00:38:44,613 --> 00:38:47,093
Speaker 11: a great country and it's you know, we just have

825
00:38:47,213 --> 00:38:52,013
Speaker 11: to get back on track as it were, and and

826
00:38:52,173 --> 00:38:54,373
Speaker 11: just you know, move forward back to the times when

827
00:38:54,453 --> 00:38:56,973
Speaker 11: when we were you know, one of the world leaders,

828
00:38:57,053 --> 00:39:00,893
Speaker 11: which you know, we really haven't lost that unfortunately, you know,

829
00:39:01,013 --> 00:39:03,173
Speaker 11: some of the politicians have put us in a spiral

830
00:39:03,293 --> 00:39:06,493
Speaker 11: and too much debt in the country. But we've just

831
00:39:06,493 --> 00:39:07,493
Speaker 11: got to get on it now.

832
00:39:07,813 --> 00:39:11,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like that. I like that. I like

833
00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:15,293
Speaker 2: that Barry get on with it. Yeah. Yeah, Hey, guys,

834
00:39:15,293 --> 00:39:18,533
Speaker 2: the reason for our social losage is quite simple. A

835
00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:20,533
Speaker 2: certain political group has been trying to convince us that

836
00:39:20,573 --> 00:39:23,773
Speaker 2: we are socially, financially and sexually oppressed. Maybe ignoring or

837
00:39:23,813 --> 00:39:27,053
Speaker 2: silencing this group would help us snap out of it. Dave,

838
00:39:27,213 --> 00:39:29,453
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I support silencing anyone more of

839
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:34,613
Speaker 2: a free speech advocate, but maybe maybe we just need

840
00:39:34,733 --> 00:39:40,573
Speaker 2: to be more positive. It sounds so trite, but do

841
00:39:40,693 --> 00:39:42,893
Speaker 2: things not because they're easy, but because they're hard. As

842
00:39:42,973 --> 00:39:44,053
Speaker 2: JFK would say, you.

843
00:39:44,013 --> 00:39:46,493
Speaker 3: Know, I still like your point. Shame the winges. You know,

844
00:39:46,573 --> 00:39:48,293
Speaker 3: if you've got a winder in your life, just give

845
00:39:48,293 --> 00:39:50,613
Speaker 3: them a bit of shaming at the dinner table. Shut

846
00:39:50,653 --> 00:39:50,973
Speaker 3: them up.

847
00:39:51,293 --> 00:39:53,652
Speaker 2: Shame winges wherever you see them. Don't silence them, just

848
00:39:53,693 --> 00:39:54,172
Speaker 2: shame them.

849
00:39:54,773 --> 00:39:57,053
Speaker 3: It was a great discussion. Thank you very much. Right

850
00:39:57,093 --> 00:39:59,253
Speaker 3: coming up, we want to have a chat about mean coins.

851
00:39:59,293 --> 00:40:01,653
Speaker 3: If you're into mean coins, if you investment mean coins,

852
00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:04,293
Speaker 3: if you've lost a bit of money and mean coins,

853
00:40:04,293 --> 00:40:05,533
Speaker 3: we want to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and

854
00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:06,853
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number.

855
00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:12,053
Speaker 1: To call, talking with you all afternoon against Matt Heathen,

856
00:40:12,173 --> 00:40:14,773
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

857
00:40:14,773 --> 00:40:17,533
Speaker 2: They'd be very good afternoon to you.

858
00:40:17,653 --> 00:40:19,773
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show.

859
00:40:20,413 --> 00:40:22,373
Speaker 2: Just before we move on, Yeah, before we move on,

860
00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:25,253
Speaker 2: Tyler to a new topic which I'm excited about, the

861
00:40:25,533 --> 00:40:27,733
Speaker 2: meme coin topic, and I'm chomping at the book to

862
00:40:27,733 --> 00:40:32,133
Speaker 2: get into that. I've been accused of toxic positivity in

863
00:40:32,173 --> 00:40:34,533
Speaker 2: an amusing text which I thought I responded the first

864
00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:36,293
Speaker 2: someone called my next book toxic positivity.

865
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:37,093
Speaker 3: It's a great book tip.

866
00:40:37,413 --> 00:40:40,293
Speaker 2: Another texta says shut up heath you, Pollyanna. Another one

867
00:40:40,293 --> 00:40:44,293
Speaker 2: says Matt, I'm triggered by your relentless, naive positivity. And

868
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Speaker 2: so I thought, under those accusations, I thought what I'd

869
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Speaker 2: do was I'll double down I'll double down. I'll double

870
00:40:50,773 --> 00:40:53,373
Speaker 2: down on my positivity. And I was asked to write

871
00:40:53,413 --> 00:40:56,813
Speaker 2: something for the on the Up section in the Herald,

872
00:40:59,333 --> 00:41:02,053
Speaker 2: a campaign in the Herald to look at positive stories

873
00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:04,973
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. They asked me to write a little

874
00:41:04,973 --> 00:41:08,853
Speaker 2: bit on how I stay positive. Okay, so I'm going

875
00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:10,813
Speaker 2: to punish you guys by reading it out. All right,

876
00:41:11,253 --> 00:41:13,853
Speaker 2: you can't steals, can't stop me. You can't stop me

877
00:41:13,893 --> 00:41:18,533
Speaker 2: being a Pollyanna. You can't stop my native positivity. I'm

878
00:41:18,573 --> 00:41:21,093
Speaker 2: unstoppable here it is. I am a fan of the

879
00:41:21,133 --> 00:41:25,493
Speaker 2: philosopher William b Irvine's approach. Everyone experiences obstacles professionally and personally.

880
00:41:25,533 --> 00:41:28,212
Speaker 2: We feel set upon by admin, the economy, bad luck,

881
00:41:28,253 --> 00:41:32,213
Speaker 2: and sometimes other humans. Irvine flips this brand. He rebrands

882
00:41:32,253 --> 00:41:36,013
Speaker 2: obstacles as challenges. If you can face a setback with strength, virtue,

883
00:41:36,053 --> 00:41:39,093
Speaker 2: calmness and competence, you pass the test, get stronger and

884
00:41:39,133 --> 00:41:41,053
Speaker 2: earn the right to feel pride in yourself. If you

885
00:41:41,053 --> 00:41:43,613
Speaker 2: freak out, give up, or blame others, you fail the challenges.

886
00:41:43,853 --> 00:41:46,453
Speaker 2: It's a simple perspective trick. You are not set upon

887
00:41:46,533 --> 00:41:48,973
Speaker 2: by events and obstacles in your path. You have been

888
00:41:49,013 --> 00:41:51,573
Speaker 2: gifted opportunity to show yourself what you are made of.

889
00:41:51,893 --> 00:41:55,213
Speaker 2: It sounds simple, but it keeps me positive. With this mindset,

890
00:41:55,493 --> 00:41:58,013
Speaker 2: you almost look forward to the challenges in life.

891
00:41:58,253 --> 00:41:58,453
Speaker 8: Love.

892
00:41:58,493 --> 00:42:01,733
Speaker 2: That's How's that for toxic positivity?

893
00:42:01,813 --> 00:42:04,413
Speaker 3: It take that text us, Yeah, I mean that is

894
00:42:04,413 --> 00:42:06,373
Speaker 3: our show in a nutshell, though, wasn't it. There's always

895
00:42:06,373 --> 00:42:08,692
Speaker 3: a big mountain to climb every day, and we get

896
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:11,413
Speaker 3: through it and we face it with gusta certainly do

897
00:42:11,453 --> 00:42:13,652
Speaker 3: all right, all right, on to this topic, and this

898
00:42:13,693 --> 00:42:16,893
Speaker 3: is going to be an interesting conversation. Meme coins. Now,

899
00:42:17,053 --> 00:42:19,213
Speaker 3: you may or may not have heard of meme coins,

900
00:42:19,213 --> 00:42:22,212
Speaker 3: but it's taken the crypto world by storm. There are

901
00:42:22,453 --> 00:42:25,493
Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of them. But the big ones that

902
00:42:25,533 --> 00:42:31,453
Speaker 3: may come to mind Doge the ogbu inu.

903
00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:34,973
Speaker 2: Which is the type of dog that was in the

904
00:42:35,013 --> 00:42:37,853
Speaker 2: original Doge meme in twenty thirteen, isn't it yeah?

905
00:42:37,853 --> 00:42:40,373
Speaker 3: Correct? Yeah, So that was just a fly on from Doge.

906
00:42:40,013 --> 00:42:42,253
Speaker 2: And doges gets some pretty confusion because it was from

907
00:42:42,333 --> 00:42:47,013
Speaker 2: a meme about a Japanese dog, meme that then became

908
00:42:47,213 --> 00:42:52,173
Speaker 2: a coin and then became the Department of Governor Efficiency.

909
00:42:52,253 --> 00:42:57,253
Speaker 2: So it's swirling around in meme coin exception complexity, isn't it.

910
00:42:57,373 --> 00:43:00,413
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hook Tour was another recent one. You may have

911
00:43:00,573 --> 00:43:03,653
Speaker 3: seen that particular. I can't remember her name, Haley Welsh

912
00:43:03,653 --> 00:43:06,493
Speaker 3: I think is her name, but she became very famous

913
00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:08,173
Speaker 3: from one tiny week clip. We don't need to go

914
00:43:08,213 --> 00:43:09,573
Speaker 3: in to what that clip is, but you can look

915
00:43:09,573 --> 00:43:11,853
Speaker 3: it up Hook to a Girl if you're interested. But

916
00:43:11,933 --> 00:43:14,253
Speaker 3: that was another mean coin into it. It didn't me too.

917
00:43:14,293 --> 00:43:16,053
Speaker 3: That didn't work out for her. She got a lot

918
00:43:16,093 --> 00:43:18,533
Speaker 3: of stick because that was a meme coin that went

919
00:43:18,613 --> 00:43:22,333
Speaker 3: up very rapidly and declined very rapidly. They called it

920
00:43:22,373 --> 00:43:22,893
Speaker 3: the rug pull.

921
00:43:23,013 --> 00:43:25,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, But this is what I really

922
00:43:25,413 --> 00:43:27,853
Speaker 2: want to talk about, And people that have delved into

923
00:43:27,933 --> 00:43:31,413
Speaker 2: meme coinage can help me out here in eight hundred

924
00:43:31,453 --> 00:43:34,652
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty, because I think it's unfair that

925
00:43:34,693 --> 00:43:37,613
Speaker 2: she got slammed for that, Because isn't the whole thing

926
00:43:37,653 --> 00:43:39,893
Speaker 2: of a meme coin. It's sort of a who can

927
00:43:39,933 --> 00:43:41,933
Speaker 2: get in first and who can get out first? And

928
00:43:41,973 --> 00:43:45,453
Speaker 2: if you get out first, then then you make the money.

929
00:43:45,533 --> 00:43:45,692
Speaker 9: Yeah.

930
00:43:45,693 --> 00:43:48,692
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all tied to jokes and trends and

931
00:43:48,853 --> 00:43:52,692
Speaker 2: celebrity endorsements, and they will almost certainly blow up, you know,

932
00:43:52,773 --> 00:43:55,692
Speaker 2: and the people that get angry I could be wrong here,

933
00:43:56,013 --> 00:43:58,493
Speaker 2: but the people that get angry about it's just because

934
00:43:58,533 --> 00:44:00,773
Speaker 2: they didn't get out quick enough and rip the other

935
00:44:00,813 --> 00:44:06,053
Speaker 2: people off. Yeah. Yeah, it's a form of form of gambling. Yeah,

936
00:44:06,093 --> 00:44:08,573
Speaker 2: but they are ridiculous. I mean, and people go, well,

937
00:44:08,573 --> 00:44:11,172
Speaker 2: who are these idiots that are investing in the tour coin?

938
00:44:11,413 --> 00:44:11,613
Speaker 8: Right?

939
00:44:11,613 --> 00:44:13,813
Speaker 2: Who are these people that investing in the Trump coin

940
00:44:13,893 --> 00:44:16,172
Speaker 2: or the Millennia coin or the or you know, dog

941
00:44:16,293 --> 00:44:19,933
Speaker 2: is actually still valued at about thirty nine billion I believe,

942
00:44:20,053 --> 00:44:22,773
Speaker 2: Yeah that, you know, which was the original meme coin.

943
00:44:23,253 --> 00:44:26,893
Speaker 2: But isn't that the whole thing, the humorous, humorous origins,

944
00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:30,133
Speaker 2: the community driven. They're obviously high volatilility, and they have

945
00:44:30,213 --> 00:44:35,533
Speaker 2: no practical use. They're not like bitcoin. They have no

946
00:44:35,613 --> 00:44:39,493
Speaker 2: functionality these coins. So that's what a meme coin is.

947
00:44:39,853 --> 00:44:42,732
Speaker 2: It's a pump full of hype and can you make

948
00:44:42,773 --> 00:44:45,173
Speaker 2: the money now, it's like a collectible. Yeah, you know,

949
00:44:45,213 --> 00:44:46,413
Speaker 2: it's not far off in NFT.

950
00:44:46,933 --> 00:44:48,652
Speaker 3: You want to get it on the ground floor and

951
00:44:48,693 --> 00:44:52,533
Speaker 3: you hope that it goes viral. Then other people start

952
00:44:52,573 --> 00:44:55,293
Speaker 3: getting into it. The value of that meme coin goes up,

953
00:44:55,373 --> 00:44:57,933
Speaker 3: and then you've got to get out before it hits

954
00:44:57,973 --> 00:44:59,893
Speaker 3: The peak is effectively the strategy, right.

955
00:44:59,853 --> 00:45:02,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there isn't that. They think a lot of

956
00:45:02,213 --> 00:45:05,093
Speaker 2: the reason why this is so popular with young people

957
00:45:05,453 --> 00:45:08,973
Speaker 2: is because they feel like they have been locked out

958
00:45:09,093 --> 00:45:14,933
Speaker 2: of the traditional ways to get rich. They feel locked

959
00:45:14,933 --> 00:45:16,933
Speaker 2: out of the property market. They may be running a

960
00:45:16,973 --> 00:45:21,093
Speaker 2: lot of debt, and they are living their lives online

961
00:45:21,453 --> 00:45:23,692
Speaker 2: and they see these meme coins. They see the humor

962
00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:25,933
Speaker 2: of it, but they also have seen people that have

963
00:45:26,013 --> 00:45:28,533
Speaker 2: made millions and millions of dollars. And you read about

964
00:45:28,533 --> 00:45:30,333
Speaker 2: the person that's made millions and millions of dollars, you

965
00:45:30,373 --> 00:45:31,973
Speaker 2: get fomo and you want to get involved in this

966
00:45:32,093 --> 00:45:36,533
Speaker 2: latest stupid coin before everyone jumps out of it and

967
00:45:37,333 --> 00:45:40,252
Speaker 2: you don't, you know, And of course, like all these things,

968
00:45:40,373 --> 00:45:43,212
Speaker 2: most people lose. Yeah, but you know people that hate

969
00:45:43,213 --> 00:45:44,933
Speaker 2: the meme coin. For me, it's kind of like when

970
00:45:45,013 --> 00:45:46,973
Speaker 2: you bet on a horse and your horse doesn't come true.

971
00:45:47,573 --> 00:45:49,773
Speaker 2: You're like, well, was I ripped off? Or did I

972
00:45:49,813 --> 00:45:50,533
Speaker 2: just picked the wrong horse?

973
00:45:50,613 --> 00:45:52,172
Speaker 3: It was worth a gamble and it didn't work out

974
00:45:52,213 --> 00:45:54,213
Speaker 3: for me. But yeah, the story it is in the Herald,

975
00:45:54,493 --> 00:45:57,933
Speaker 3: but it quotes Uva Mendoza and she's twenty five. She

976
00:45:58,013 --> 00:46:01,213
Speaker 3: earns six figures in the state. She's in the Bay Area,

977
00:46:01,253 --> 00:46:03,333
Speaker 3: and she says, I quote, nobody can afford to buy

978
00:46:03,333 --> 00:46:05,973
Speaker 3: a house, she said, of her generation, so we feel

979
00:46:06,173 --> 00:46:08,253
Speaker 3: like we need to do something a bit more risky.

980
00:46:08,493 --> 00:46:11,573
Speaker 3: She is among the young investors seeking out that incredible

981
00:46:11,573 --> 00:46:14,493
Speaker 3: wealth sometimes by investing in these a meme coins. It

982
00:46:14,533 --> 00:46:18,733
Speaker 3: is effectively a get rich quick scheme, but one that

983
00:46:19,133 --> 00:46:22,533
Speaker 3: there are a handful of people that get incredibly incredibly wealthy,

984
00:46:22,973 --> 00:46:26,853
Speaker 3: and far more that probably missmiss out if they invest.

985
00:46:26,893 --> 00:46:29,453
Speaker 3: But keen to hear from you on on oh eight

986
00:46:29,533 --> 00:46:32,253
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty have you given a crack on

987
00:46:32,373 --> 00:46:34,133
Speaker 3: a meme coin? Putting some money into a mean coin?

988
00:46:34,253 --> 00:46:36,973
Speaker 2: And isn't it interesting? So you might be a bitcoin

989
00:46:37,053 --> 00:46:41,013
Speaker 2: investor and you might be thinking, oh my god, meme

990
00:46:41,053 --> 00:46:43,853
Speaker 2: coin is crazy in the same way that people that

991
00:46:43,893 --> 00:46:47,973
Speaker 2: are property investors or share market investors think that just

992
00:46:48,093 --> 00:46:51,253
Speaker 2: in a solid crypto coin, investing of that is as crazy.

993
00:46:51,613 --> 00:46:54,293
Speaker 2: So I love your thoughts on meme coins. Eight hundred

994
00:46:54,373 --> 00:46:55,813
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty.

995
00:46:56,133 --> 00:46:59,733
Speaker 3: It is thirteen past two, back very shortly.

996
00:47:00,213 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk. Mad Heathen Tyler Adams

997
00:47:04,813 --> 00:47:08,533
Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk.

998
00:47:08,453 --> 00:47:13,893
Speaker 3: Said, afternoon, sixteen past two. We're talking about meme coins.

999
00:47:13,933 --> 00:47:18,732
Speaker 3: These are effectively cryptocurrencies. They don't have any inherent value

1000
00:47:18,773 --> 00:47:20,173
Speaker 3: apart from being funny.

1001
00:47:20,413 --> 00:47:20,613
Speaker 2: Ah.

1002
00:47:20,693 --> 00:47:22,893
Speaker 3: But if you get in early on the ground floor

1003
00:47:22,933 --> 00:47:25,732
Speaker 3: and the particular meme coin that you've put money into

1004
00:47:25,893 --> 00:47:28,573
Speaker 3: goes viral and other people buy it, then you can

1005
00:47:28,733 --> 00:47:30,253
Speaker 3: make an awful lot of money.

1006
00:47:31,253 --> 00:47:33,453
Speaker 2: Yes so, And look, I'd love to hear from someone

1007
00:47:33,453 --> 00:47:35,813
Speaker 2: that that points out this is wrong. But isn't there

1008
00:47:35,893 --> 00:47:39,732
Speaker 2: volunteer volatility and the lack of functionality the whole point

1009
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,373
Speaker 2: of the meme coin and why the money can be

1010
00:47:41,413 --> 00:47:44,253
Speaker 2: made because it is all hype and it all is

1011
00:47:44,293 --> 00:47:47,573
Speaker 2: all pumped up by whatever joke is involved and whatever.

1012
00:47:48,773 --> 00:47:50,813
Speaker 2: You know, if you could call the hawk toy girl

1013
00:47:50,893 --> 00:47:54,613
Speaker 2: a celebrity, whatever cultural capital someone has at a certain

1014
00:47:54,933 --> 00:47:55,733
Speaker 2: certain time.

1015
00:47:55,933 --> 00:47:57,613
Speaker 3: The higher the risk, the higher reward.

1016
00:47:57,653 --> 00:48:00,413
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so you don't mind me saying you were

1017
00:48:00,413 --> 00:48:03,172
Speaker 2: telling me over a coffee before that you bought a

1018
00:48:03,173 --> 00:48:05,653
Speaker 2: meme coin at one point, yes, yeah, money into it.

1019
00:48:05,693 --> 00:48:06,813
Speaker 2: And why did you put money into it?

1020
00:48:07,333 --> 00:48:10,773
Speaker 3: Because I thought it was going to make me money? Fast, right, yeah, fast.

1021
00:48:11,053 --> 00:48:13,293
Speaker 3: So I had it in bitcoin, and I'm not sure,

1022
00:48:13,293 --> 00:48:14,933
Speaker 3: you know, I've said that before that I had a

1023
00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:17,453
Speaker 3: little bit of money in bitcoin, sold the bitcoin, put

1024
00:48:17,493 --> 00:48:20,652
Speaker 3: it into this mean coin called Pepe because I'd read

1025
00:48:20,773 --> 00:48:23,133
Speaker 3: that it had just come to the market, so to speak,

1026
00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:27,293
Speaker 3: and it might go up exponentially, and it did. But

1027
00:48:27,373 --> 00:48:29,333
Speaker 3: I didn't get out early enough, so I off money.

1028
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:33,093
Speaker 3: But the point is I didn't put any more around

1029
00:48:33,093 --> 00:48:34,133
Speaker 3: than I could afford to lose.

1030
00:48:34,653 --> 00:48:37,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you got out, and look, I want

1031
00:48:37,733 --> 00:48:41,893
Speaker 2: to differentiate this between putting money in a savings account, well,

1032
00:48:42,013 --> 00:48:44,533
Speaker 2: I don't know, buying gold or investing in property, all

1033
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:49,133
Speaker 2: these different things slower burns, especially in property these days.

1034
00:48:49,653 --> 00:48:52,493
Speaker 2: But you were in there to make a quick money,

1035
00:48:52,613 --> 00:48:55,413
Speaker 2: a quick amount of money. So someone was going to

1036
00:48:55,453 --> 00:48:56,813
Speaker 2: lose money. You just didn't want it to be you.

1037
00:48:57,013 --> 00:48:58,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a mess of Campbell and I knew that.

1038
00:48:58,973 --> 00:49:01,413
Speaker 3: That's why I think it was. So it's roughly about

1039
00:49:01,453 --> 00:49:03,172
Speaker 3: two hundred bucks because a.

1040
00:49:03,173 --> 00:49:05,773
Speaker 2: Mean coin, and I'm not saying this for crypto in general,

1041
00:49:06,373 --> 00:49:09,533
Speaker 2: is a it's close the gambling than it is to

1042
00:49:10,253 --> 00:49:10,693
Speaker 2: invest in.

1043
00:49:10,973 --> 00:49:14,133
Speaker 3: Definitely, it was like me putting money on you know,

1044
00:49:14,453 --> 00:49:16,813
Speaker 3: a pony to win the Melbourne Cup. It's it's coming

1045
00:49:16,853 --> 00:49:19,292
Speaker 3: in at one hundred to one. It's not likely to work,

1046
00:49:19,413 --> 00:49:20,692
Speaker 3: but there's a possibility.

1047
00:49:21,813 --> 00:49:25,693
Speaker 2: All right, Kim, you've bought mean coins?

1048
00:49:26,213 --> 00:49:29,733
Speaker 17: Yeah I have. Hey, it's risk and rewards and basically

1049
00:49:29,773 --> 00:49:32,772
Speaker 17: all over to say, when I've bought the trump fit coin,

1050
00:49:33,213 --> 00:49:36,533
Speaker 17: which is you know, ma, it was I'm not I'm

1051
00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:41,293
Speaker 17: not particularly worried about that. And the second mind is

1052
00:49:41,293 --> 00:49:42,053
Speaker 17: the trump Fit.

1053
00:49:41,973 --> 00:49:42,773
Speaker 9: Point buck.

1054
00:49:44,333 --> 00:49:44,533
Speaker 8: That?

1055
00:49:44,613 --> 00:49:45,293
Speaker 3: What was that one?

1056
00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:46,453
Speaker 2: Say that one again?

1057
00:49:46,493 --> 00:49:49,333
Speaker 17: It's the trump It's the trump Fit point bucks.

1058
00:49:49,973 --> 00:49:53,413
Speaker 3: Oh that's the trump mean coin is it?

1059
00:49:53,413 --> 00:49:58,453
Speaker 17: It's not a court buck and one hundred foot point

1060
00:49:58,493 --> 00:50:02,973
Speaker 17: notes and it's gold and it is absolutely gorgeous and I'm.

1061
00:50:02,853 --> 00:50:03,652
Speaker 18: Never selling them.

1062
00:50:04,213 --> 00:50:06,853
Speaker 2: That sounds like, So you you have bought it as

1063
00:50:06,853 --> 00:50:09,053
Speaker 2: a collectible yea, I have.

1064
00:50:10,693 --> 00:50:14,453
Speaker 17: There's only a finite amount, and yeah they are they.

1065
00:50:14,333 --> 00:50:15,613
Speaker 12: Are done, mate.

1066
00:50:15,933 --> 00:50:17,373
Speaker 2: And what's the value at now?

1067
00:50:20,893 --> 00:50:23,373
Speaker 3: Oh we just lost your kim Met just asked what's

1068
00:50:23,453 --> 00:50:24,333
Speaker 3: the value at now?

1069
00:50:26,453 --> 00:50:30,613
Speaker 17: I haven't actually lost his off this week. It's still Yeah,

1070
00:50:30,693 --> 00:50:32,333
Speaker 17: I'm gonna have to have to go on mine. But

1071
00:50:32,413 --> 00:50:35,453
Speaker 17: as I say, I'll quite have you sell the bitcoin coin.

1072
00:50:35,973 --> 00:50:39,093
Speaker 17: But I won't sell the bucks. I'll take those for sure.

1073
00:50:39,373 --> 00:50:39,613
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1074
00:50:39,733 --> 00:50:42,732
Speaker 3: Oh well, I think if you call him, I mean,

1075
00:50:42,773 --> 00:50:44,773
Speaker 3: that does sound like a clickable. So that was a

1076
00:50:44,813 --> 00:50:47,773
Speaker 3: physical note? Was it that Kim got sent?

1077
00:50:47,973 --> 00:50:50,013
Speaker 2: Is that I think she got a natural buck, which

1078
00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:51,813
Speaker 2: is which is a Trump buck, which is which is

1079
00:50:51,813 --> 00:50:56,013
Speaker 2: different from the Trump Mean coin. Yeah, or the Millennia

1080
00:50:56,133 --> 00:50:56,653
Speaker 2: Mean coin.

1081
00:50:57,613 --> 00:50:59,493
Speaker 3: And I will say I was reading the story in

1082
00:50:59,533 --> 00:51:01,893
Speaker 3: the Herald about the Trump Mean coin and a lot

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00:51:01,933 --> 00:51:04,093
Speaker 3: of these meme coins do absolutely nothing and they never

1084
00:51:04,093 --> 00:51:07,733
Speaker 3: claim to be. But for that particular coin at the moment,

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00:51:08,453 --> 00:51:10,333
Speaker 3: I think if you buy enough of them, then you're

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00:51:10,373 --> 00:51:13,373
Speaker 3: going to be invited to a private garlet dinner with

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Speaker 3: the president. So you get something out of that if

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00:51:15,613 --> 00:51:19,213
Speaker 3: you if you want to risk quite a substantial amount

1089
00:51:19,213 --> 00:51:21,373
Speaker 3: of money buying that coin, then you might get to

1090
00:51:21,413 --> 00:51:22,333
Speaker 3: have dinner with the president.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, there you go.

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00:51:24,093 --> 00:51:26,293
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1093
00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:29,493
Speaker 3: to call if you've purchased meme coins before. Love to

1094
00:51:29,493 --> 00:51:32,853
Speaker 3: hear from you if you think it is a good strategy,

1095
00:51:32,893 --> 00:51:34,652
Speaker 3: if it's worked out for you, or if you've lost a.

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00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:36,493
Speaker 2: Bit of money. Yeah, yeah, and just you only what

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00:51:36,533 --> 00:51:38,732
Speaker 2: you think about meme coins and I'd like to hear

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00:51:38,773 --> 00:51:41,693
Speaker 2: from some crypto people that are judgmental of meme coins

1099
00:51:42,053 --> 00:51:44,133
Speaker 2: that are just straight lined the doubt, straight down the

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00:51:44,173 --> 00:51:47,053
Speaker 2: line bitcoin and the solid solid crypto.

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00:51:47,213 --> 00:51:49,973
Speaker 3: Yep. It is twenty one past two back very shortly.

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00:51:50,853 --> 00:51:53,893
Speaker 3: Great news New Zealand homeowners or want to be homeowners.

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00:51:53,973 --> 00:51:55,893
Speaker 3: Dosh has started doing home loans.

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00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:58,573
Speaker 2: Not your standard run of the mill set up. These

1105
00:51:58,693 --> 00:52:01,133
Speaker 2: are freaking great home loans.

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00:52:00,813 --> 00:52:03,813
Speaker 3: And better yet, they come with Dosh streak. You can

1107
00:52:03,853 --> 00:52:08,093
Speaker 3: get cash back every single year you stick with them catching.

1108
00:52:08,053 --> 00:52:10,133
Speaker 2: So literally get paid to strenk.

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00:52:10,293 --> 00:52:13,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dosh didn't stop there. Dosh home loans are also

1110
00:52:13,413 --> 00:52:15,853
Speaker 3: freking easy to apply online.

1111
00:52:15,453 --> 00:52:17,733
Speaker 2: And there's no paperwork to apply. It's all online. You

1112
00:52:17,733 --> 00:52:19,933
Speaker 2: can apply for a home loan in your slippers.

1113
00:52:19,933 --> 00:52:22,813
Speaker 3: Not on Dosh yet, just go to Dosh dot Nz

1114
00:52:23,053 --> 00:52:25,733
Speaker 3: to check out their freaking great home loans.

1115
00:52:25,773 --> 00:52:28,533
Speaker 2: Dosh home Loans approved, issued and managed by Westpac New

1116
00:52:28,613 --> 00:52:30,493
Speaker 2: Zealand Limited and promoted by Dosh.

1117
00:52:30,653 --> 00:52:33,253
Speaker 3: The Street Cash Bank is subject to terms and conditions

1118
00:52:33,253 --> 00:52:37,813
Speaker 3: and provided exclusively by Dosh. Lending and eligibility criteria and

1119
00:52:37,973 --> 00:52:39,413
Speaker 3: terms and conditions apply.

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00:52:43,773 --> 00:52:47,133
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

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00:52:47,133 --> 00:52:48,893
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on news Talk.

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00:52:48,853 --> 00:52:52,133
Speaker 3: ZB twenty four past two. We're talking about meme coins.

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00:52:52,293 --> 00:52:55,212
Speaker 3: They have taken the crypto world by storm. There's thousands

1124
00:52:55,293 --> 00:52:58,093
Speaker 3: of them, and it turns out there are many young

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00:52:58,133 --> 00:53:00,533
Speaker 3: people in the US and here in New Zealand that

1126
00:53:01,253 --> 00:53:04,533
Speaker 3: are looking to meme coins to make money because the

1127
00:53:04,613 --> 00:53:07,053
Speaker 3: traditional route of the housing market has let them down. Yeah,

1128
00:53:07,053 --> 00:53:07,813
Speaker 3: they can't get into it.

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00:53:07,893 --> 00:53:10,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it just what this Texas says, don't

1130
00:53:10,773 --> 00:53:13,133
Speaker 2: chase rainbows are full of rainbows are full and his

1131
00:53:13,253 --> 00:53:17,172
Speaker 2: money are easily parted. There was phone cards and where

1132
00:53:17,213 --> 00:53:19,893
Speaker 2: are they now? They're worthless? Yeah, I mean.

1133
00:53:19,973 --> 00:53:21,453
Speaker 3: That is a fair point. I mean a lot of

1134
00:53:21,653 --> 00:53:23,853
Speaker 3: people have called it a bubble, but I think to

1135
00:53:23,933 --> 00:53:27,212
Speaker 3: your point, if you know it's a gamble and it's

1136
00:53:27,293 --> 00:53:31,413
Speaker 3: highly likely you'll lose the money that you put into it,

1137
00:53:31,493 --> 00:53:32,493
Speaker 3: is there anything wrong with it?

1138
00:53:32,853 --> 00:53:33,093
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1139
00:53:33,133 --> 00:53:35,453
Speaker 2: I mean if you're buying sad Hamster coins and you

1140
00:53:35,573 --> 00:53:39,453
Speaker 2: lose the money, or pizza coins, surely you know what

1141
00:53:39,453 --> 00:53:41,693
Speaker 2: you're getting into, or the Pooh coin.

1142
00:53:41,653 --> 00:53:43,853
Speaker 3: Or like me, Peppy I didn't even know what Peppee was.

1143
00:53:44,133 --> 00:53:46,133
Speaker 3: It just It just sounded like a thre potential.

1144
00:53:46,333 --> 00:53:48,373
Speaker 2: If you're dropping big money on the poo coin and

1145
00:53:48,413 --> 00:53:51,093
Speaker 2: you lose money, I mean, I'm not sure how much

1146
00:53:51,573 --> 00:53:55,253
Speaker 2: symphony symphony sympathy I have for you.

1147
00:53:55,453 --> 00:53:58,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't go to your financial what happened here?

1148
00:53:58,293 --> 00:53:59,973
Speaker 3: It was a done deal. I thought there was a guarantee.

1149
00:54:00,053 --> 00:54:04,773
Speaker 2: I mean, it's on the blockchain. Here you go, Pawin,

1150
00:54:05,253 --> 00:54:08,013
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Are your thoughts on mean coins?

1151
00:54:08,733 --> 00:54:09,013
Speaker 4: Hello?

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00:54:09,133 --> 00:54:09,373
Speaker 8: Yes?

1153
00:54:09,453 --> 00:54:12,933
Speaker 19: Yes, actually I was trading in meme coin, but the

1154
00:54:13,013 --> 00:54:17,133
Speaker 19: trump mime coin gave me some money, but I lost

1155
00:54:17,453 --> 00:54:21,293
Speaker 19: all money on ethereum when like the price dropped from

1156
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:22,533
Speaker 19: twenty eight hundred.

1157
00:54:23,413 --> 00:54:26,093
Speaker 2: Right right, and ethereum is is considered one of the

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00:54:26,093 --> 00:54:29,653
Speaker 2: more solid you know, one of the more solid points.

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00:54:29,973 --> 00:54:33,013
Speaker 19: Yeah, but I think all of the crypto concepts like

1160
00:54:33,173 --> 00:54:37,573
Speaker 19: mime coin, you know, because what happens, like some guys

1161
00:54:37,693 --> 00:54:40,773
Speaker 19: who got a lot of followers and they got like

1162
00:54:40,853 --> 00:54:44,692
Speaker 19: groups in telegram and all sorts of stuff over there,

1163
00:54:44,693 --> 00:54:46,813
Speaker 19: like the message or this is gonna drop, so a

1164
00:54:46,893 --> 00:54:52,093
Speaker 19: lot of people they just sell the coin and all,

1165
00:54:52,253 --> 00:54:55,413
Speaker 19: so the price going down. Some people like they they

1166
00:54:55,413 --> 00:54:58,253
Speaker 19: send the message in their groups or price going up

1167
00:54:58,493 --> 00:55:01,493
Speaker 19: so people start buying, so how it's like going up

1168
00:55:01,493 --> 00:55:05,613
Speaker 19: and down. So a lot of people like they yeah,

1169
00:55:05,733 --> 00:55:09,773
Speaker 19: controlling the price on the co and all good stuff.

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00:55:10,373 --> 00:55:14,253
Speaker 2: So you you made a lot on Trump you lost

1171
00:55:14,293 --> 00:55:17,773
Speaker 2: on a lot on Ethereum. Where are you sitting? Are

1172
00:55:17,773 --> 00:55:20,173
Speaker 2: you even or you are you down? Overall?

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00:55:21,293 --> 00:55:25,133
Speaker 19: I like, I'm out from the game because it liquidated

1174
00:55:25,253 --> 00:55:29,493
Speaker 19: of everything because on Etherium, like I was putting more

1175
00:55:29,573 --> 00:55:34,413
Speaker 19: money to save that. Yeah, but Etherium was on twenty

1176
00:55:34,973 --> 00:55:42,453
Speaker 19: one hundred. I was liquidated on the Etherium yeah, thirteen

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00:55:42,813 --> 00:55:43,813
Speaker 19: and fifteen hundred, I think.

1178
00:55:43,693 --> 00:55:46,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, when did that crash? Was that at the start

1179
00:55:46,293 --> 00:55:46,853
Speaker 3: of the year?

1180
00:55:46,893 --> 00:55:47,652
Speaker 2: Was it one?

1181
00:55:48,013 --> 00:55:48,252
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1182
00:55:48,293 --> 00:55:54,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah right yeah, so it's currently sitting at

1183
00:55:54,653 --> 00:55:56,413
Speaker 3: three thy and thirteen.

1184
00:55:58,213 --> 00:56:03,613
Speaker 19: Yeah yeah, I like all of the coins or even Etherium,

1185
00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:07,133
Speaker 19: like they have people control, some of the people controlling them,

1186
00:56:07,173 --> 00:56:07,533
Speaker 19: you know.

1187
00:56:07,853 --> 00:56:10,453
Speaker 3: Just what they the Trump coin and I take it

1188
00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:13,893
Speaker 3: you knew it was a gamble per want you Yeah? Yeah?

1189
00:56:14,013 --> 00:56:15,373
Speaker 19: I think so yeah, yeah.

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00:56:15,133 --> 00:56:16,733
Speaker 3: But it sounds like you've got to be in the

1191
00:56:16,853 --> 00:56:20,893
Speaker 3: right Internet groups right to find out or hear about

1192
00:56:20,893 --> 00:56:25,533
Speaker 3: these things, because if you're not first, you're highly likely

1193
00:56:25,653 --> 00:56:26,533
Speaker 3: to lose money.

1194
00:56:27,733 --> 00:56:31,773
Speaker 19: Yes, yes, yeah, like e when trump coin? Was it

1195
00:56:32,133 --> 00:56:36,013
Speaker 19: a ten or twelve that time I entered, and I

1196
00:56:36,573 --> 00:56:40,813
Speaker 19: around fifty or fifty two? It was, Yeah, it went

1197
00:56:40,893 --> 00:56:42,533
Speaker 19: to ninety or night.

1198
00:56:42,613 --> 00:56:46,253
Speaker 3: I think was that just before the election, was it?

1199
00:56:48,453 --> 00:56:48,692
Speaker 2: I think?

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00:56:48,693 --> 00:56:48,773
Speaker 9: So?

1201
00:56:48,853 --> 00:56:49,893
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah?

1202
00:56:49,973 --> 00:56:50,893
Speaker 19: Around the elections?

1203
00:56:51,853 --> 00:56:53,573
Speaker 2: I mean, is that any different too?

1204
00:56:53,613 --> 00:56:56,413
Speaker 3: Because you could bet on the election result, right, whether

1205
00:56:56,453 --> 00:56:59,172
Speaker 3: it was going to be Trump or Karmela. And as

1206
00:56:59,213 --> 00:57:02,853
Speaker 3: it got closer, it became pretty evident that that Trump was,

1207
00:57:02,973 --> 00:57:05,693
Speaker 3: you know, good odds to take the presidency. That's effectively

1208
00:57:06,053 --> 00:57:07,692
Speaker 3: what it was, right that if you put money into

1209
00:57:07,693 --> 00:57:11,053
Speaker 3: this mean coin, it was effectively gambling on Trump winning

1210
00:57:11,093 --> 00:57:11,733
Speaker 3: the presidency.

1211
00:57:13,773 --> 00:57:17,773
Speaker 19: No, I think Trump worn. I think, Oh, I actually

1212
00:57:17,813 --> 00:57:20,893
Speaker 19: I don't remember now because I'm not doing anything now

1213
00:57:21,133 --> 00:57:24,053
Speaker 19: about I think I forgot that.

1214
00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:25,613
Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know, you know.

1215
00:57:25,773 --> 00:57:28,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, well, very good to check with you, and

1216
00:57:28,733 --> 00:57:30,693
Speaker 3: and good to hear that. So you're pretty much even

1217
00:57:30,733 --> 00:57:36,653
Speaker 3: Stevens or a little bit up. He's out, Oh you'd but.

1218
00:57:36,693 --> 00:57:37,733
Speaker 19: Yeah, liquidated.

1219
00:57:37,813 --> 00:57:38,453
Speaker 12: So I'm out now.

1220
00:57:38,533 --> 00:57:41,853
Speaker 19: So I'm just doing my job. Yeah, so I'm not

1221
00:57:41,893 --> 00:57:43,573
Speaker 19: on not trading anymore.

1222
00:57:43,933 --> 00:57:45,933
Speaker 3: Last question for you, have you got a partner or

1223
00:57:45,973 --> 00:57:46,373
Speaker 3: a wife?

1224
00:57:46,493 --> 00:57:46,773
Speaker 20: Paun?

1225
00:57:47,493 --> 00:57:49,813
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, I got.

1226
00:57:49,013 --> 00:57:51,173
Speaker 3: How did she feel about this invecement strategy?

1227
00:57:52,973 --> 00:57:57,653
Speaker 19: Nolet case, yes, ses, she was all right, like we

1228
00:57:58,013 --> 00:58:02,573
Speaker 19: tried something and but I found like one thing from trading,

1229
00:58:02,933 --> 00:58:06,293
Speaker 19: like if you want to do trading like sport trading

1230
00:58:06,413 --> 00:58:11,653
Speaker 19: instead of decent one, you know, like a sports trading

1231
00:58:11,693 --> 00:58:13,613
Speaker 19: like it, you might take sometimes like a one year

1232
00:58:13,733 --> 00:58:16,413
Speaker 19: or two years to get the price back, but in

1233
00:58:16,453 --> 00:58:19,093
Speaker 19: the liquidation it will be like maybe in the one

1234
00:58:19,133 --> 00:58:21,693
Speaker 19: month like it will You're all many gone.

1235
00:58:21,773 --> 00:58:24,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting, great to chat with you for one.

1236
00:58:24,573 --> 00:58:26,213
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for giving us a call.

1237
00:58:26,613 --> 00:58:30,053
Speaker 2: Should we start a z b coin? So we've basically

1238
00:58:30,093 --> 00:58:33,253
Speaker 2: got a funny, engage engaging meme. Yeah, I know something

1239
00:58:34,253 --> 00:58:37,013
Speaker 2: around you probably you're pretty funny and engaging tyler. We'll

1240
00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:37,693
Speaker 2: call it coin.

1241
00:58:37,773 --> 00:58:40,533
Speaker 3: We could have your face on it, okay, yeah, matt coin, yeah,

1242
00:58:40,613 --> 00:58:42,653
Speaker 3: heath coin, Heathorium.

1243
00:58:43,413 --> 00:58:45,893
Speaker 2: We'll choose a blockchain, I think well, we'll put it

1244
00:58:45,933 --> 00:58:49,613
Speaker 2: on the Ethereum blockchain. This is coming together very fast.

1245
00:58:50,213 --> 00:58:53,253
Speaker 2: We'll create a token, yep, this token mint, you can

1246
00:58:53,293 --> 00:58:56,813
Speaker 2: do that. We'll set the parameters, we'll make it how

1247
00:58:56,893 --> 00:59:01,173
Speaker 2: much the number of decimals just well, well, and then

1248
00:59:01,213 --> 00:59:02,253
Speaker 2: promote it on social media.

1249
00:59:02,293 --> 00:59:04,213
Speaker 3: We'll have some utility and then if you buy enough

1250
00:59:04,213 --> 00:59:06,213
Speaker 3: of them, you get to lunch with met Heath.

1251
00:59:06,333 --> 00:59:08,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we'll pump and dump it on the

1252
00:59:08,413 --> 00:59:12,413
Speaker 2: mattin Tyler afternoons and then any suckers that by that

1253
00:59:12,573 --> 00:59:14,533
Speaker 2: coin deserve to lose everything they've got.

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Speaker 3: Exactly you knew what you were doing. Oh, one hundred

1255
00:59:16,693 --> 00:59:18,293
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It

1256
00:59:18,333 --> 00:59:19,893
Speaker 3: has bang on to thirty.

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Speaker 14: Youth talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1258
00:59:26,013 --> 00:59:29,293
Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Auditor General's putting

1259
00:59:29,333 --> 00:59:33,613
Speaker 14: the government's school lunches program under the microscope, probing its

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00:59:33,653 --> 00:59:39,013
Speaker 14: planning contracts, nutritional value and procurement. People are protesting on

1261
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Speaker 14: Parliament grounds after the Government's announced it will make public

1262
00:59:42,013 --> 00:59:46,853
Speaker 14: pay equity claims harder by lifting the threshold. The legislation

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00:59:46,973 --> 00:59:50,653
Speaker 14: will be passed under urgency, skipping the select Committee process.

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00:59:51,013 --> 00:59:55,213
Speaker 14: Claims not finalized will have to be resubmitted. The Social

1265
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Speaker 14: Development Ministry can't confirm if its sanctions on beneficiaries, which

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00:59:59,733 --> 01:00:03,533
Speaker 14: were almost eighty percent on last quarter, have led people

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Speaker 14: directly into work. Police are investigating a man's death in

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Speaker 14: Southwark Manoe with this morning on Mahia Road. They say

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Speaker 14: it is a homicide. Police are asking for sightings of

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Speaker 14: a man thought to have burnt a ute on Bluff's

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Speaker 14: Marine Parade on Sunday afternoon. They say a man was

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Speaker 14: seen running from the burning vehicle with a red petrol

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01:00:24,173 --> 01:00:28,853
Speaker 14: can and collected in a dark colored vehicle. For her sake,

1274
01:00:29,053 --> 01:00:32,173
Speaker 14: Liam Lawson needs to tidy up his Formula one act.

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Speaker 14: You can see Alex Phel's story at end, said Herald Premium.

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Speaker 14: Now back to matte Ethan Tyner Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we're talking about

1278
01:00:39,493 --> 01:00:43,293
Speaker 3: mean coins. These are part of the cryptocurrency space, but

1279
01:00:43,373 --> 01:00:47,213
Speaker 3: they're not your Bitcoin or ethereum type token.

1280
01:00:47,453 --> 01:00:50,373
Speaker 2: Yeah. This after a really interesting article on the Herald

1281
01:00:50,413 --> 01:00:57,013
Speaker 2: about a Hooters coin. This Smisson's making six figures from

1282
01:00:57,053 --> 01:01:00,053
Speaker 2: starting the Hood's coin. But it's about young people who

1283
01:01:00,853 --> 01:01:03,733
Speaker 2: they're calling them financial nihilists. They don't believe in the

1284
01:01:03,773 --> 01:01:07,173
Speaker 2: financial system anymore because they don't think that they can

1285
01:01:07,213 --> 01:01:09,773
Speaker 2: get on the property ladder, and they don't think that

1286
01:01:09,773 --> 01:01:11,533
Speaker 2: they're going to have a job for life, and they

1287
01:01:11,573 --> 01:01:14,213
Speaker 2: just don't think that the current system is set up

1288
01:01:14,213 --> 01:01:16,773
Speaker 2: to make them succeed in their way that their parents

1289
01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:20,613
Speaker 2: did or their grandparents did, so they're doing crazy things.

1290
01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:24,653
Speaker 2: And a mean coin doesn't really have any functionality. It's

1291
01:01:24,773 --> 01:01:28,813
Speaker 2: just a it's all hype. Really, it's a you know

1292
01:01:29,533 --> 01:01:33,213
Speaker 2: a lot of like bitcoin has a functionality, right, and

1293
01:01:33,893 --> 01:01:36,973
Speaker 2: XRP has a functionality, but mean coins do not have

1294
01:01:36,973 --> 01:01:41,253
Speaker 2: a functionality. They are just hype, yeah and pump and

1295
01:01:41,253 --> 01:01:42,013
Speaker 2: don't really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they are. I mean, it's a massive gamble, high risk,

1297
01:01:44,893 --> 01:01:47,293
Speaker 3: high reward. But a lot of these young people quoted

1298
01:01:47,333 --> 01:01:50,253
Speaker 3: in the story who are all about the mean coins

1299
01:01:50,293 --> 01:01:52,213
Speaker 3: to try and make some quick cash because they can't

1300
01:01:52,213 --> 01:01:54,853
Speaker 3: get into the housing market. They go on to talk

1301
01:01:54,853 --> 01:01:59,693
Speaker 3: about the game Stop situation, which is very similar as

1302
01:01:59,733 --> 01:02:03,373
Speaker 3: in putting money into a stock like game Stop, which

1303
01:02:03,413 --> 01:02:06,413
Speaker 3: was effectively this is where you go to buy games

1304
01:02:06,413 --> 01:02:08,813
Speaker 3: for your Xbox or your PlayStation. By all counts, that

1305
01:02:09,013 --> 01:02:11,293
Speaker 3: was a business that was on the down and out,

1306
01:02:11,333 --> 01:02:13,253
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, one person says buy some

1307
01:02:13,293 --> 01:02:17,333
Speaker 3: game Stop shares. Boom, the value skyrocketed, and it became

1308
01:02:17,373 --> 01:02:20,573
Speaker 3: a bit of a meme, like a you know, a

1309
01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:23,493
Speaker 3: whole group of young Internet users just saying yep, I'm

1310
01:02:23,493 --> 01:02:25,293
Speaker 3: getting on this train because it's a fast way to

1311
01:02:25,333 --> 01:02:25,733
Speaker 3: make catch.

1312
01:02:26,373 --> 01:02:29,173
Speaker 2: Matthew says these meme coins have no tangible value in

1313
01:02:29,213 --> 01:02:31,333
Speaker 2: nothing of any substance backing them. They are a pyramid

1314
01:02:31,373 --> 01:02:33,893
Speaker 2: scheme for the gullible and desperate. I nearly put money

1315
01:02:33,933 --> 01:02:37,373
Speaker 2: into Solana, not a mean coin, but probably similar in substance.

1316
01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:39,933
Speaker 2: Before I could buy I watched its value dive over

1317
01:02:39,973 --> 01:02:42,013
Speaker 2: a couple of months. So grateful I didn't put But

1318
01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:45,133
Speaker 2: who knows. It's a crazy world. It could go absolutely

1319
01:02:45,173 --> 01:02:47,413
Speaker 2: ballistic from my point of view, and this is at

1320
01:02:47,413 --> 01:02:49,533
Speaker 2: the far end of the scale. If you invest a

1321
01:02:49,573 --> 01:02:53,333
Speaker 2: lot of money in poo coin, which exists, and you

1322
01:02:53,413 --> 01:02:58,253
Speaker 2: lose your money, then is there any sympathy there because

1323
01:02:58,573 --> 01:03:00,493
Speaker 2: you're just involved. You're just trying to get in and

1324
01:03:00,493 --> 01:03:04,493
Speaker 2: get your money when you can. Ah Morris, welcome to

1325
01:03:04,533 --> 01:03:05,653
Speaker 2: the show. It's been a while.

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01:03:06,773 --> 01:03:09,573
Speaker 8: Ah. That word busy time of the year for us.

1327
01:03:09,573 --> 01:03:14,653
Speaker 8: But anyway, I think it's all hub of we're all

1328
01:03:14,653 --> 01:03:17,733
Speaker 8: waste the time. If you want tom a house, we'll

1329
01:03:17,773 --> 01:03:21,053
Speaker 8: give someone the b of advice. A young noodle lunatic,

1330
01:03:21,973 --> 01:03:24,813
Speaker 8: don't have a coffee every morning that costs you seven bucks?

1331
01:03:24,853 --> 01:03:26,413
Speaker 8: Then they have one at morning tea, then they have

1332
01:03:26,493 --> 01:03:29,333
Speaker 8: one at lunch in there one going home twenty eight bucks.

1333
01:03:29,533 --> 01:03:31,893
Speaker 8: Don't bund sushi every second day because you think it's

1334
01:03:31,933 --> 01:03:35,253
Speaker 8: healthy at fourteen dollars. It actually save your money. Go

1335
01:03:35,413 --> 01:03:38,293
Speaker 8: shop and get some groceries, learn out cop and take

1336
01:03:38,413 --> 01:03:41,253
Speaker 8: lunch to work with you in drink t bags or

1337
01:03:41,373 --> 01:03:42,373
Speaker 8: instant coffee.

1338
01:03:42,573 --> 01:03:46,493
Speaker 2: And do you think week? Do you think? How quickly

1339
01:03:46,573 --> 01:03:48,373
Speaker 2: do you reckon? They'll get you on your prop marketing

1340
01:03:48,613 --> 01:03:51,933
Speaker 2: mark the property market. No, no, no coffee, is no

1341
01:03:51,933 --> 01:03:53,493
Speaker 2: no sushi.

1342
01:03:54,493 --> 01:03:56,613
Speaker 8: You'll save six hundred bucks a week if you actually

1343
01:03:56,813 --> 01:03:58,933
Speaker 8: and you live properly and you don't spend your money

1344
01:03:58,973 --> 01:04:01,333
Speaker 8: on nonsense. And if you save six hundred bucks a week,

1345
01:04:01,333 --> 01:04:02,973
Speaker 8: then I'll make your thirty grand a year. So over

1346
01:04:03,053 --> 01:04:06,093
Speaker 8: five years or one hundred and fifty grand. Well, I

1347
01:04:06,133 --> 01:04:10,133
Speaker 8: have a daughter on a six figure salary, reading poverty,

1348
01:04:10,373 --> 01:04:13,333
Speaker 8: I can't live. He was living with her mate when

1349
01:04:13,373 --> 01:04:15,533
Speaker 8: you were making seven hundred bucks for her shoe of

1350
01:04:15,613 --> 01:04:18,133
Speaker 8: the rent, literally just like that, never had a dollar

1351
01:04:18,213 --> 01:04:19,853
Speaker 8: a week to week, look from week to week, and

1352
01:04:19,893 --> 01:04:21,053
Speaker 8: she was claiming poverty.

1353
01:04:22,413 --> 01:04:22,693
Speaker 3: MM.

1354
01:04:22,813 --> 01:04:25,133
Speaker 8: Just ridiculous. And they want it all now, they don't

1355
01:04:25,133 --> 01:04:27,613
Speaker 8: want to work for it in the world, ows and something,

1356
01:04:27,693 --> 01:04:30,573
Speaker 8: and then they take these hit the credit borrow money

1357
01:04:30,573 --> 01:04:32,133
Speaker 8: and put it on these weird things.

1358
01:04:32,413 --> 01:04:34,373
Speaker 2: Would you admit, though, Morris, that it's harder to get

1359
01:04:34,373 --> 01:04:37,173
Speaker 2: on the property ladder now than it was when you did.

1360
01:04:39,053 --> 01:04:42,013
Speaker 8: Have a son who's tight, miserable and everything. He got

1361
01:04:42,013 --> 01:04:43,013
Speaker 8: on the property letter of all the time.

1362
01:04:43,013 --> 01:04:44,253
Speaker 2: He's thirty two, Is he happy?

1363
01:04:45,693 --> 01:04:45,853
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1364
01:04:45,933 --> 01:04:47,773
Speaker 8: Yes, years he's got married now with a couple of

1365
01:04:47,853 --> 01:04:49,493
Speaker 8: kids and over the moon happy years.

1366
01:04:49,613 --> 01:04:51,133
Speaker 2: So you think you could be Do you think, Maris,

1367
01:04:51,133 --> 01:04:52,253
Speaker 2: you can be tight and happy?

1368
01:04:54,133 --> 01:04:55,373
Speaker 20: What I call them tight?

1369
01:04:55,853 --> 01:04:58,093
Speaker 8: And this is this is it. You guys are little

1370
01:04:58,093 --> 01:05:00,253
Speaker 8: pretentious yuppy. So you like your coffees in the morning

1371
01:05:00,293 --> 01:05:03,133
Speaker 8: and all that bench and stuff. But do you need

1372
01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:04,933
Speaker 8: a seven dollar coffee on the way to work? Then

1373
01:05:04,973 --> 01:05:07,333
Speaker 8: I'll go down for lunch, sniff the coffee every day

1374
01:05:07,373 --> 01:05:10,253
Speaker 8: of the week, three times day. We'll sin washoe twenty

1375
01:05:10,253 --> 01:05:12,453
Speaker 8: one dollars a day, which is one hundred bucks a week.

1376
01:05:12,453 --> 01:05:14,973
Speaker 8: Do you need that? What's wrong with Inston coffee?

1377
01:05:15,493 --> 01:05:17,533
Speaker 3: Well, Mett's doing pretty well actually, because I bo't buy

1378
01:05:17,613 --> 01:05:20,253
Speaker 3: most of the coffees. Morris say, he's got me, He's

1379
01:05:20,293 --> 01:05:20,533
Speaker 3: got me.

1380
01:05:20,573 --> 01:05:23,773
Speaker 2: There I'm saving coffee, and I'm saving.

1381
01:05:26,013 --> 01:05:27,293
Speaker 8: Then you go out just for a little laps.

1382
01:05:27,293 --> 01:05:29,413
Speaker 19: I'm just getting can I.

1383
01:05:28,493 --> 01:05:30,213
Speaker 2: Just I'm just going to hold you up there for

1384
01:05:30,253 --> 01:05:32,413
Speaker 2: a second, Morris, seven dollars fifty coffee. I think you

1385
01:05:32,493 --> 01:05:35,253
Speaker 2: might be exaggerating the crust of coffee. I don't know,

1386
01:05:35,253 --> 01:05:37,973
Speaker 2: because my coffee. How much are you paying for my coffees?

1387
01:05:38,413 --> 01:05:41,933
Speaker 3: For your one? Yeah, your one's five twenty. My one

1388
01:05:42,013 --> 01:05:43,893
Speaker 3: is four dollars seventy. I just go long black. You

1389
01:05:43,893 --> 01:05:46,133
Speaker 3: know they's fancy for me. Okay, they're a little splash

1390
01:05:46,133 --> 01:05:47,253
Speaker 3: of cream. You're getting yours there?

1391
01:05:47,293 --> 01:05:48,053
Speaker 2: Really? Okay?

1392
01:05:48,093 --> 01:05:50,413
Speaker 8: So where are you guys getting them from? Where I go?

1393
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:51,653
Speaker 8: Seven bucks?

1394
01:05:51,973 --> 01:05:54,533
Speaker 2: What we're like, Adam, we're about to you you're.

1395
01:05:56,093 --> 01:05:56,413
Speaker 8: Mokey?

1396
01:05:56,693 --> 01:05:58,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'll go back to the tea bags, Morris.

1397
01:05:58,853 --> 01:06:00,693
Speaker 3: I mean, you're paying seven bucks for a coffee.

1398
01:06:00,733 --> 01:06:03,013
Speaker 2: You're getting ripped off because I have a fancy coffee

1399
01:06:03,053 --> 01:06:04,413
Speaker 2: that I get tiling to buy me every day, and

1400
01:06:04,453 --> 01:06:05,453
Speaker 2: there's only five to twenty.

1401
01:06:05,493 --> 01:06:06,653
Speaker 3: They saw you coming, Morris.

1402
01:06:08,573 --> 01:06:09,853
Speaker 8: But you know when you look at it, but all

1403
01:06:09,893 --> 01:06:12,293
Speaker 8: those little bits ed up and what happens that it's

1404
01:06:12,413 --> 01:06:15,253
Speaker 8: just the coffee. It's just soush. It's just that, and

1405
01:06:15,253 --> 01:06:16,613
Speaker 8: then I don't need it, hope any more. The eat

1406
01:06:16,613 --> 01:06:19,253
Speaker 8: takeaways and shit like that, or or I go here

1407
01:06:19,373 --> 01:06:22,573
Speaker 8: or they so the next thing, you know, like I

1408
01:06:22,693 --> 01:06:25,893
Speaker 8: proved to my daughter, I ate where you really well

1409
01:06:25,893 --> 01:06:27,893
Speaker 8: for one week on one hundred and fifty seven bucks

1410
01:06:27,893 --> 01:06:30,053
Speaker 8: for a week when I did the shopping started a

1411
01:06:30,093 --> 01:06:31,853
Speaker 8: new place and they've done a hundred and fifty seven

1412
01:06:31,893 --> 01:06:34,653
Speaker 8: bucks a week, And she couldn't believe it. And I had,

1413
01:06:34,733 --> 01:06:37,893
Speaker 8: you know, like ham sandwiches with lendus and tomatoes for lunch.

1414
01:06:37,973 --> 01:06:39,813
Speaker 8: You had stuff like that, and you can do that

1415
01:06:39,853 --> 01:06:41,973
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty seven bucks a week for one person,

1416
01:06:42,333 --> 01:06:44,693
Speaker 8: ate broccoli and coulie flower, you know, you get to

1417
01:06:44,693 --> 01:06:48,813
Speaker 8: beat or vegetables and you cook it home. What onlass?

1418
01:06:48,853 --> 01:06:50,573
Speaker 2: What about your entertainment? Marris?

1419
01:06:50,613 --> 01:06:51,013
Speaker 19: Were you?

1420
01:06:51,053 --> 01:06:51,293
Speaker 8: Were you?

1421
01:06:51,333 --> 01:06:53,053
Speaker 2: What do you say? One glass of wine a week?

1422
01:06:53,973 --> 01:06:55,933
Speaker 8: No? No, well you don't go out for that, just

1423
01:06:55,973 --> 01:06:57,053
Speaker 8: one glass that comes sex?

1424
01:06:57,173 --> 01:06:57,853
Speaker 21: You know how it is?

1425
01:06:58,493 --> 01:07:01,453
Speaker 8: Yes, but what you do and if you want entertainment, seriously,

1426
01:07:01,573 --> 01:07:04,733
Speaker 8: go and join a sports god and player sport so

1427
01:07:05,573 --> 01:07:05,933
Speaker 8: you can do.

1428
01:07:06,253 --> 01:07:07,973
Speaker 3: But I think your figures are a little bit out

1429
01:07:07,973 --> 01:07:10,373
Speaker 3: forget about the coffee. But you see it's by not

1430
01:07:10,413 --> 01:07:12,493
Speaker 3: buying a coffee you saved six hundred bucks a week.

1431
01:07:12,733 --> 01:07:14,453
Speaker 3: I mean six hundred bucks a week. You've got to

1432
01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:15,853
Speaker 3: cut out a lot of spending to save that.

1433
01:07:16,853 --> 01:07:18,693
Speaker 8: No, No, what she did when she cut all the

1434
01:07:18,733 --> 01:07:20,533
Speaker 8: crap out that she wasted the money on, she saved

1435
01:07:20,533 --> 01:07:21,493
Speaker 8: six hundred bucks a week.

1436
01:07:21,733 --> 01:07:22,613
Speaker 2: So what was she buying?

1437
01:07:22,653 --> 01:07:25,973
Speaker 3: I mean coffee is aside, that's a lot of expenditure.

1438
01:07:26,973 --> 01:07:28,493
Speaker 8: Was she week for four coffees a week? To goo

1439
01:07:28,533 --> 01:07:30,613
Speaker 8: for pizzas two nights a week? You'd eat out most

1440
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:33,613
Speaker 8: every other night. When you went through the whole how

1441
01:07:33,693 --> 01:07:37,053
Speaker 8: she lived? She said, you know, she was on over

1442
01:07:37,093 --> 01:07:39,493
Speaker 8: one hundred a year and she's week to.

1443
01:07:39,453 --> 01:07:44,733
Speaker 2: Week And what was her happiness levels? Like between the

1444
01:07:44,813 --> 01:07:48,453
Speaker 2: rampant spending and then when she tightened about Morris.

1445
01:07:48,973 --> 01:07:50,853
Speaker 8: When she had money in the bank, could she get

1446
01:07:50,893 --> 01:07:51,893
Speaker 8: to see some positivity?

1447
01:07:52,413 --> 01:07:55,253
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think this. I think there's some truth in

1448
01:07:55,293 --> 01:07:57,253
Speaker 2: that Morris. I think that there's some truth. And when

1449
01:07:57,293 --> 01:07:59,693
Speaker 2: you're when you're just burning money, you may feel like

1450
01:07:59,733 --> 01:08:01,973
Speaker 2: you're having a good time, but there's that sinking feeling

1451
01:08:02,173 --> 01:08:05,173
Speaker 2: of just money flying away from your directions. And I'm

1452
01:08:05,173 --> 01:08:06,773
Speaker 2: a but like this, I mean, I won't buy the coffee.

1453
01:08:06,813 --> 01:08:09,213
Speaker 2: That's up to you. Tyler. You're lucky to have a

1454
01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:12,413
Speaker 2: job working with me. So you're still in a trial period.

1455
01:08:12,413 --> 01:08:13,653
Speaker 2: Has it been ninety days yet?

1456
01:08:13,893 --> 01:08:16,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, been far past ninety days down. I think I'm

1457
01:08:16,613 --> 01:08:17,612
Speaker 3: only a three yearly try.

1458
01:08:17,733 --> 01:08:19,293
Speaker 2: I missed that. But as I said the other day,

1459
01:08:19,293 --> 01:08:21,813
Speaker 2: I spray money around like a fire hose, and it

1460
01:08:21,853 --> 01:08:23,173
Speaker 2: does It doesn't make me feel good.

1461
01:08:23,773 --> 01:08:25,972
Speaker 3: I had one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1462
01:08:26,053 --> 01:08:29,213
Speaker 3: of cors. I guarantee Morris has made a crazy gamble

1463
01:08:29,253 --> 01:08:31,652
Speaker 3: at some stage in this life. Morris is still there,

1464
01:08:31,853 --> 01:08:33,652
Speaker 3: Morris at some stage, I mean, forget about the mean

1465
01:08:33,732 --> 01:08:35,492
Speaker 3: come yet. I think a lot of people can agree

1466
01:08:35,492 --> 01:08:38,092
Speaker 3: it's it's it's not a good strategy for getting wealthy

1467
01:08:38,093 --> 01:08:40,053
Speaker 3: in the long term. But you must have been a

1468
01:08:40,053 --> 01:08:41,213
Speaker 3: bit of a gambler in your youth.

1469
01:08:42,492 --> 01:08:45,692
Speaker 8: No never, or it just worked and saved and worked

1470
01:08:45,692 --> 01:08:47,293
Speaker 8: and put it into bricks and mortar. Because I was told,

1471
01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:49,412
Speaker 8: you know, the only milliar gambler in the head. I said,

1472
01:08:49,412 --> 01:08:51,412
Speaker 8: a horse that we raced an alancy. She paid ninety

1473
01:08:51,412 --> 01:08:53,933
Speaker 8: two dollars. Then we took the grain each way and

1474
01:08:54,093 --> 01:08:56,812
Speaker 8: we put these o our equipments and it bolted in

1475
01:08:56,812 --> 01:08:59,173
Speaker 8: an alsie. Her name was Morris Less. She was a

1476
01:08:59,213 --> 01:09:02,013
Speaker 8: person over here. And the funny thing about that, my

1477
01:09:02,093 --> 01:09:03,692
Speaker 8: daughter wants to put the money on at the pub

1478
01:09:03,732 --> 01:09:06,053
Speaker 8: and there is TV because that's how it was, and

1479
01:09:06,133 --> 01:09:08,012
Speaker 8: she said, can I borrow twenty off you? I said,

1480
01:09:08,013 --> 01:09:10,572
Speaker 8: what's for the doors? Because you're doing it, I'm going

1481
01:09:10,652 --> 01:09:10,933
Speaker 8: to do it.

1482
01:09:11,053 --> 01:09:14,012
Speaker 3: That's gambling, Morris, thank you very I'm sorry. I asked.

1483
01:09:14,572 --> 01:09:16,412
Speaker 2: I've got a pook coin for you, Morris, if you

1484
01:09:16,452 --> 01:09:19,253
Speaker 2: want to put some a you're good on that. Guys.

1485
01:09:19,293 --> 01:09:21,572
Speaker 2: My local coffee shop charges seven dollars for a rigidar

1486
01:09:21,572 --> 01:09:24,372
Speaker 2: flat rite. Younger people at work will get uber eats

1487
01:09:24,412 --> 01:09:26,572
Speaker 2: from three hundred meters down the road instead of going

1488
01:09:26,612 --> 01:09:29,692
Speaker 2: and getting it down. True boy, I found out and

1489
01:09:29,772 --> 01:09:32,052
Speaker 2: uber eats from one of my cats that was about

1490
01:09:32,213 --> 01:09:33,812
Speaker 2: I think forty five meters from home.

1491
01:09:36,532 --> 01:09:39,093
Speaker 3: Well, you can't talk, you spray the catch around like

1492
01:09:39,213 --> 01:09:39,772
Speaker 3: father lu likes.

1493
01:09:39,973 --> 01:09:40,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible example.

1494
01:09:41,253 --> 01:09:43,213
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1495
01:09:43,253 --> 01:09:46,492
Speaker 3: to call mean coins and in the crypto space, if

1496
01:09:46,532 --> 01:09:48,772
Speaker 3: you're involved in the NFTs as well, love to hear

1497
01:09:48,772 --> 01:09:49,133
Speaker 3: from you.

1498
01:09:49,293 --> 01:09:51,732
Speaker 2: Tell you this, Texas is trump coin went ten x

1499
01:09:51,772 --> 01:09:55,412
Speaker 2: on on inauguration. And that's the thing with a mean coin,

1500
01:09:55,572 --> 01:09:58,293
Speaker 2: like the Trump coin, for example, it's not about the

1501
01:09:58,333 --> 01:10:00,452
Speaker 2: substance or the functionality at about it. It's about the

1502
01:10:00,532 --> 01:10:03,972
Speaker 2: hype around it. And so even though Trump's inauguration had

1503
01:10:03,973 --> 01:10:06,612
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the value of the coin really,

1504
01:10:06,893 --> 01:10:09,293
Speaker 2: but the perception of his name and therefore the hype

1505
01:10:09,293 --> 01:10:13,012
Speaker 2: went up at the on inauguration day, so the Trump

1506
01:10:13,053 --> 01:10:13,572
Speaker 2: coin went up.

1507
01:10:13,652 --> 01:10:17,253
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. It is seventeen to three. Beg very shortly.

1508
01:10:18,372 --> 01:10:22,333
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on mad Heath and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons News Talk zed B.

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Speaker 3: News Talk zed B. James, Good afternoon, Yeah, good, here's

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Speaker 3: go very good. So you're involved in NFTs.

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Speaker 20: Is that right?

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: It's the funny thing about NFTs is people look at

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Speaker 22: things like the mean coins or the thing that you know,

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Speaker 22: like Justin Bieber bought a dancing monkey or something for

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Speaker 22: thirty five thousand dollars or something like that, and it's

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Speaker 22: kind of given NFTs a bit of a bad name,

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Speaker 22: and people think that, you know, they're a better rubbish,

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Speaker 22: but what they basically are is the something that's digitally unique.

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Speaker 22: So so what what my company does. We do events

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Speaker 22: and memberships, and we use the NFTs to create unique

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Speaker 22: things like you know, an admission, an admission ticket or

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Speaker 22: a membership card for your club, and the whole thing

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Speaker 22: can be stored inside your phone.

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Speaker 2: So that so as you're you're the n f ts,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about more functional than they are collectible.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, a lot, you know, like you wouldn't when you

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Speaker 22: buy a piece of art, where you say I bought art,

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Speaker 22: You don't say I bought a paper, you know, or

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Speaker 22: a canvas, you know. And that's that's the playing The

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Speaker 22: n f T is just the means of storing the

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Speaker 22: information as opposed to doing the thing.

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Speaker 2: Itself makes it's on the blockchain.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 22: So people only associated with you know, with with a

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Speaker 22: value like a coin or a or you know, the

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Speaker 22: meme or anything. It's actually that the n FT itself

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Speaker 22: doesn't hold a lot of value with the content that does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what we're saying. It's it's it's it's functional.

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Speaker 2: So how do you get around are you, you know,

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Speaker 2: in your business because n f ts are running up

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Speaker 2: a bit of a stigma. Stigma now and they've sort

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Speaker 2: of become the buzzword for for for things in a

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Speaker 2: digital space blowing up.

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Speaker 22: You know, the with with my with my business. The

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Speaker 22: the user doesn't actually have to muck around with blockchains

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Speaker 22: or anything that it will just you download the app

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Speaker 22: and then your membership card or whatever you will arrive

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Speaker 22: in your in your digital wallet. So because the users

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Speaker 22: don't have to touch it, it's it's really really simple.

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Speaker 22: And also the merchant, the people who like the club

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Speaker 22: or the organization that use our software, they they're just

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Speaker 22: using the I guess the functional part of it, the

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Speaker 22: the minting on the on the blockchain. That sort of

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Speaker 22: stuff all happens in the background. So so all the

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Speaker 22: all the all the people, all the users are saying

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Speaker 22: is the end results. But but but by using the

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Speaker 22: n f T, like like I say, it makes it

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Speaker 22: makes them in digitally unique. So so for instance, you know,

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Speaker 22: like a like an event ticket or something like that,

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Speaker 22: you don't want you don't want to have a p

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Speaker 22: D sent to your email, you know, because they can

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Speaker 22: be infinitely sold on trade me like they have been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't, yeah, I mean people don't often talk

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Speaker 2: about the functionality of these things. There was some talks

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Speaker 2: going back to crypto that you could imbard people's bonuses

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Speaker 2: into the coins that you're paying someone, and there's there's

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Speaker 2: all that kind of functionality in this world. James, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 22: And also like like after a concert, for instance, we

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Speaker 22: can then air drop memorabilia for the for the concert

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Speaker 22: to the the people who went to it, right well,

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Speaker 22: so which which would be unique to the people who

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Speaker 22: went there, you know. So you know, I don't know

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Speaker 22: about you, but I can't stand it when people just

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Speaker 22: hold their phone up the whole the whole concert.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's incredible.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you have they go and leave your phone in

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Speaker 22: your pocket for goodness sake, hopefully people are listening. And

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Speaker 22: and then you know, after the fact, you know, if

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Speaker 22: you get sent some some really cool pictures and that

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Speaker 22: sort of thing because you're an event, because you went

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Speaker 22: to the event, then you know that that sort of

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Speaker 22: thing that gates the need to be stood there trying

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Speaker 22: to record a whole concert on your phone, you know.

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Speaker 3: James, do you think when n f t's first launched

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Speaker 3: and you talked about the board ape and the Justin

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Speaker 3: Bieber's paying three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for one

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Speaker 3: of those images NFTs. Do you think it was over hyped?

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Speaker 3: Does it found a better floor so to speak, now

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Speaker 3: that the hyper has died down.

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Speaker 22: I think it's because it was new, you know, and

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Speaker 22: people thought it was the new space, and it is

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Speaker 22: and it is fantastic. It's just been given it's just

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Speaker 22: been given quite a bad rep from because everyone refers

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Speaker 22: to it as an NFT, whereas the like I say,

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Speaker 22: when you're selling, when you're selling paintings, you're not saying

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Speaker 22: I'm buying a canvas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And how's how's your business going, James.

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Speaker 22: We're just launched. We're just launching the last week or two. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: so it's very very very new to the market, and

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Speaker 22: so yeah, we're working on getting it out there.

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Speaker 2: What do you call, James, It's called.

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Speaker 22: Xpunge and for if you dissect the name, it's because

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Speaker 22: it's non fungible, so x funge. It's xpunge dot com.

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Speaker 22: And so yeah, anything from a small club with one

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Speaker 22: hundred members right through to a multinational can can use.

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Speaker 2: Their software expunge dot com. Thanks, you call James all

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Speaker 2: the best. Paul here again, don't use my name, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Peter here again, don't want to talk as my wife

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Speaker 2: doesn't know about well, let's call him something else. Simon

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Speaker 2: Simon Simon here again. I don't want to talk because

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Speaker 2: my wife doesn't know about my crypto as she is

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Speaker 2: anti it. I have over sixty k currently and started

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Speaker 2: at five K. Made some good calls on Sologenic and

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Speaker 2: scurium and XRP. Now I'm earning weekly for stacking scoriam.

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Speaker 2: So there are people out there that are that are

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Speaker 2: making money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good game from five K to sixty k.

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Speaker 2: But he's not. He's not in the meme coin industry.

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Speaker 2: That was he He's not. Those aren't meme coins.

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Speaker 3: I don't it didn't sound like it didn't sound like

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Speaker 3: pow coin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's slightly different than pizza coin.

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Speaker 3: Or coin yeah, or curly snake or whatever you want

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Speaker 3: to call some of these meat coins, right O. One

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine

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Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text number. It is eight,

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Speaker 3: But it's the three.

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Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

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Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 3: B News Talks it is five to two three and we've

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Speaker 3: been talking about meme coins.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this this person has been on your coin

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Speaker 2: is the one that you lost some money on, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: I got involved in a pre launch for a coin

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Speaker 2: called Mpeppie. The website looked professional and the ideas behind

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Speaker 2: the coin were out there. It appeared to be a

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Speaker 2: crypto gaming sports betting site. During the pre launch, you

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Speaker 2: could play free games and win more tokens that you

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Speaker 2: could buy more coins with. The Telegram group was full

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Speaker 2: of hype and enthusiasm. When it came to launch day,

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Speaker 2: the cread has disappeared with everyone dollars. I lost my

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Speaker 2: fifty dollars on that, But I think that might be

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Speaker 2: different even from this, even a step back from your

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Speaker 2: pipe coin, I think it is.

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Speaker 3: I think'st that I also lost money on and then

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Speaker 3: came along and turned out it was the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Mett and Tyler. It's all like buying n FT's

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Speaker 2: non fungible tokens. Thousands got into it, but nothing has

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Speaker 2: changed over the centuries. Just like lemmings falling off a cliff,

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Speaker 2: we seem to be slow luners. That's from Dave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good and guys, These mean coins have no

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Speaker 3: tangible value. We already read that one, Tyler. Oh, we've

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Speaker 3: read that one. Oh that's from Matthew.

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Speaker 2: You need to turn that one to an NFT and

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Speaker 2: follow the blockchain so you don't read it twice.

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Speaker 3: This is the one I wanted. Mean coins are toxic

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Speaker 3: to religious people and impressionable people. Bearst for enlightened liberals

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Speaker 3: who are aware of the risks. Anyone conned by it

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Speaker 3: as simply idiots.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go. Yeah, yeah, I agree. If you

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Speaker 2: lose money on sad Hamster, pizza coin, sponge coin or

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Speaker 2: poop coin or winer ai, I think you're probably getting

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Speaker 2: what you deserve.

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Speaker 3: We will start work on Heaththereum as we're gonna call

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Speaker 3: it with his face right on that and we'll see

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Speaker 3: how we go.

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler pucoin.

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Speaker 3: Right coming up after three o'clock, we want to talk

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Speaker 3: about bad behavior on flights. What is the bad behavior

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Speaker 3: you've seen? We're keen on your stories. Soight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call at nine two,

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Speaker 3: nine two. If you want to flick us a text,

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Speaker 3: it is three minutes to three. You support and weather

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Speaker 3: on its way.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, your new home for insightful and entertaining talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Matte and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk. Sebby,

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Speaker 1: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 1: Seven past three. This is gonna be a good hour.

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Speaker 3: Bad behavior on flights story today in New Zealand. I

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Speaker 3: had to delay one of their flights to our lay

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Speaker 3: due to disruptive behavior from a passenger. Now, as quite

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Speaker 3: often is the case, I didn't say what exactly this

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Speaker 3: passenger did, but if you have a look at the

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Speaker 3: Air New Zealand Code of Carriage, it'll are several potential

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Speaker 3: reasons for refusing service to a passenger who is unruly.

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Speaker 3: So that includes the passenger refusing to obey instruction, instructions

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Speaker 3: causing offense or discomfort to others, or causing or involving

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Speaker 3: risks to themselves or others. So highly likely it was

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Speaker 3: one of those situations in this case.

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Speaker 2: So have you seen bad behavior on planes? Weight one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. We want to head about

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Speaker 2: disruptions on planes, what causes them, what you've seen, and

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Speaker 2: what you've done, Because I've seen some pretty terrible things

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Speaker 2: on planes.

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Speaker 3: Let's just start with Actually, I've done some terrible things

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Speaker 3: on plane. I've heard the story here. I can imagine that.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the reclining of seats, though, because you

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Speaker 3: had a we are we rhyme, which may makes.

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Speaker 2: Me think you've talked about this many, many, many times.

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Speaker 2: When it's time to dine, you don't recline.

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Speaker 3: That's a good way to remember it.

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Speaker 2: I had someone recline on me and a flight out

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Speaker 2: of Paris about a year and a half ago, and

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Speaker 2: that turned into a It turned into a sort of

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Speaker 2: a tug of war where I just kept pushing the

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Speaker 2: chairback up. Some reason, there'd been some kind of era

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Speaker 2: and I'd been bopped at the wrong end of the plane.

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Speaker 3: You're in kettle class, and I'm so sorry to hear.

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Speaker 2: It was a terrible eraror it's crazy. I couldn't believe

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Speaker 2: it when I turned the wrong way when I got

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Speaker 2: on the plane. It was shocking. But then there was

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Speaker 2: this woman that it was some intent of reclining when

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Speaker 2: I was trying to dine. You don't recline when it's

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Speaker 2: time to dine. And I think that plane should be

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Speaker 2: turned down and turned around and taken back to the port.

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Speaker 2: Of exit and people should be taken off and tasered

1720
01:20:53,293 --> 01:20:54,133
Speaker 2: for doing that kind of thing.

1721
01:20:54,173 --> 01:20:56,492
Speaker 3: Just dropped out of the emergency door midflight.

1722
01:20:57,452 --> 01:20:58,093
Speaker 2: What did you do?

1723
01:20:58,253 --> 01:21:00,133
Speaker 3: Is it kind of that pessive aggressive that you just

1724
01:21:00,173 --> 01:21:01,812
Speaker 3: put your knees up or your hand up, or do

1725
01:21:01,812 --> 01:21:04,012
Speaker 3: you actually say something to that person and say, hey,

1726
01:21:04,532 --> 01:21:05,372
Speaker 3: I'm trying to eat here.

1727
01:21:05,692 --> 01:21:09,213
Speaker 2: I did. I said to her, you can't recline, I'm

1728
01:21:09,213 --> 01:21:11,772
Speaker 2: trying to dine. And she said, I can do whatever

1729
01:21:11,772 --> 01:21:15,053
Speaker 2: I want. And I said, well, yeah, yeah you can,

1730
01:21:15,133 --> 01:21:19,013
Speaker 2: but like I've got a meal here, you know, you're

1731
01:21:19,093 --> 01:21:20,933
Speaker 2: right up in my face. I can't eat it. And

1732
01:21:20,973 --> 01:21:24,053
Speaker 2: she goes, well, if you weren't allowed to cry and recline,

1733
01:21:24,412 --> 01:21:27,772
Speaker 2: why would the chairs be able to recline? There? Oh

1734
01:21:27,853 --> 01:21:29,933
Speaker 2: one of those people, and I see it, and I

1735
01:21:29,973 --> 01:21:32,293
Speaker 2: see it. Well, there's a lot of things. There's a

1736
01:21:32,293 --> 01:21:34,253
Speaker 2: lot of functionality and a lot of things that you

1737
01:21:34,333 --> 01:21:37,173
Speaker 2: have to use discretion around. You know, just because something

1738
01:21:37,213 --> 01:21:38,973
Speaker 2: can do something doesn't mean it has to do that

1739
01:21:39,013 --> 01:21:39,812
Speaker 2: whenever you want it to.

1740
01:21:39,853 --> 01:21:42,053
Speaker 3: It's a good morality lesson for that woman. Oh one

1741
01:21:42,133 --> 01:21:43,812
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty what was.

1742
01:21:43,933 --> 01:21:45,412
Speaker 2: Actually I'm actually glad there was no one got a

1743
01:21:45,412 --> 01:21:47,532
Speaker 2: phone out. I think I think that incident on that

1744
01:21:47,572 --> 01:21:49,852
Speaker 2: particular fly could have easily turned into one of those

1745
01:21:49,933 --> 01:21:53,612
Speaker 2: humiliating techtok sort of stories that go viral with it

1746
01:21:54,133 --> 01:21:55,933
Speaker 2: on on plane altercation.

1747
01:21:56,372 --> 01:21:58,812
Speaker 3: The one that really does my head, and it's when

1748
01:21:58,933 --> 01:22:03,132
Speaker 3: you're come in to land and just as they switch

1749
01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:07,813
Speaker 3: off the seat belt sign and everybody, well actually not everybody,

1750
01:22:07,853 --> 01:22:10,013
Speaker 3: the good piece people just stay in their seats, but

1751
01:22:10,053 --> 01:22:13,013
Speaker 3: the real punishers get up, stand up and get into

1752
01:22:13,053 --> 01:22:14,852
Speaker 3: the middle of the aisle so they can be first

1753
01:22:14,853 --> 01:22:16,932
Speaker 3: off the plane. What is that about? Just take your

1754
01:22:16,973 --> 01:22:19,973
Speaker 3: seat and wait. It will be an orderly progression of

1755
01:22:20,013 --> 01:22:22,772
Speaker 3: who gets off the plane based on where you're seated.

1756
01:22:22,893 --> 01:22:25,012
Speaker 3: You can't just get up and barge your way through.

1757
01:22:25,093 --> 01:22:27,372
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. People should be tasted and thrown off

1758
01:22:27,412 --> 01:22:30,293
Speaker 2: the plane for that and returned back to the.

1759
01:22:31,692 --> 01:22:33,852
Speaker 3: Port of origin exactly one week in jail.

1760
01:22:33,893 --> 01:22:38,852
Speaker 2: Minimum goes like this, left has priority yep, and all

1761
01:22:38,893 --> 01:22:41,092
Speaker 2: the way down the plane you don't get to go further.

1762
01:22:41,173 --> 01:22:43,093
Speaker 2: Everyone all the way down the plane gets to get

1763
01:22:43,133 --> 01:22:45,532
Speaker 2: their bag and get off in order. Left first.

1764
01:22:45,572 --> 01:22:46,253
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1765
01:22:46,333 --> 01:22:48,253
Speaker 2: I mean you were allowed to be polite if say

1766
01:22:48,253 --> 01:22:51,253
Speaker 2: there's a pregnant woman or someone with children, yep, and

1767
01:22:51,452 --> 01:22:52,652
Speaker 2: you might make it easier for them.

1768
01:22:52,772 --> 01:22:55,013
Speaker 3: A very elderly person, you can go.

1769
01:22:55,173 --> 01:22:57,492
Speaker 2: You can go first, absolutely, but that's how the right

1770
01:22:57,532 --> 01:23:01,213
Speaker 2: of way works. And anyone that does that then breaks

1771
01:23:01,253 --> 01:23:03,012
Speaker 2: that as a bad person. Absolutely.

1772
01:23:03,093 --> 01:23:05,492
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1773
01:23:05,492 --> 01:23:08,412
Speaker 3: call bad behavior on flights? What have you experienced and

1774
01:23:08,492 --> 01:23:10,293
Speaker 3: what does you'll hear and love to hear from you?

1775
01:23:10,372 --> 01:23:13,932
Speaker 3: It is eleven past three news talks there we're talking

1776
01:23:13,973 --> 01:23:17,412
Speaker 3: about the worst behavior on flights that you've experienced. There's

1777
01:23:17,412 --> 01:23:20,213
Speaker 3: a little annoying things that other passengers do that just

1778
01:23:20,333 --> 01:23:21,492
Speaker 3: really wind you up.

1779
01:23:21,572 --> 01:23:23,093
Speaker 2: And if you want to rap out if you were

1780
01:23:23,093 --> 01:23:25,293
Speaker 2: on that plane or know anything about that, why that

1781
01:23:25,372 --> 01:23:28,972
Speaker 2: plane was delayed from leaving Auckland for nearly two hours?

1782
01:23:29,053 --> 01:23:33,253
Speaker 2: We need details as a misbehaving passenger was disembarked. Ye

1783
01:23:33,692 --> 01:23:36,812
Speaker 2: how humiliated that? I mean? That's if Look, we don't

1784
01:23:36,812 --> 01:23:38,812
Speaker 2: know any details, so there might be another reason, but

1785
01:23:39,213 --> 01:23:41,333
Speaker 2: I understand it's what are the words that have been

1786
01:23:41,412 --> 01:23:42,173
Speaker 2: used there? Tyler?

1787
01:23:43,173 --> 01:23:46,813
Speaker 3: So it was an incident involving a disruptive passenger.

1788
01:23:47,053 --> 01:23:51,013
Speaker 2: So the disruptive suggests that they are misbehaving. I mean,

1789
01:23:51,053 --> 01:23:54,253
Speaker 2: you can be disruptive by I don't know, being sick

1790
01:23:55,933 --> 01:23:57,333
Speaker 2: or something about that's.

1791
01:23:57,093 --> 01:23:59,812
Speaker 3: Not a medical event. Usually they say if it's a

1792
01:23:59,853 --> 01:24:01,213
Speaker 3: medical events like being sick.

1793
01:24:01,293 --> 01:24:04,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how humiliating to be marched off a plane

1794
01:24:04,692 --> 01:24:07,612
Speaker 2: for disruptive behavior normally involves the drink, doesn't it.

1795
01:24:07,692 --> 01:24:09,293
Speaker 3: So at that point do you just tie them up

1796
01:24:09,293 --> 01:24:11,532
Speaker 3: at the front of the plane and there's everyone leaves.

1797
01:24:11,572 --> 01:24:14,333
Speaker 3: They get one free shot at that for an hour

1798
01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:14,732
Speaker 3: and a half.

1799
01:24:15,253 --> 01:24:19,972
Speaker 2: That fields the welcome Alvin, you've got a story about

1800
01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:20,852
Speaker 2: my bad behavior.

1801
01:24:22,013 --> 01:24:24,053
Speaker 20: Well, I'm just driving along and I heard and I said, yeah,

1802
01:24:24,093 --> 01:24:26,452
Speaker 20: I know, beauty. In the days I used to travel

1803
01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:29,812
Speaker 20: back and forth from Japan the n usual, I used

1804
01:24:29,812 --> 01:24:33,532
Speaker 20: to stop the Fiji on the way back, so you

1805
01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:35,532
Speaker 20: got to judy free and you were allowed to take

1806
01:24:35,572 --> 01:24:39,572
Speaker 20: it on board. So a couple of hours out of Auckland,

1807
01:24:40,333 --> 01:24:43,013
Speaker 20: this character that managed to drink the whole bottle of

1808
01:24:43,093 --> 01:24:46,933
Speaker 20: vodka and others, and he got into a fight with

1809
01:24:47,013 --> 01:24:49,612
Speaker 20: a passenger behind him. The next thing is there in

1810
01:24:49,652 --> 01:24:52,173
Speaker 20: the aisle of having a real go at each other.

1811
01:24:52,893 --> 01:24:55,133
Speaker 20: So the cabin cruise said, we've got to take him down.

1812
01:24:55,452 --> 01:24:58,293
Speaker 20: So we did, and we sat on him until we

1813
01:24:58,372 --> 01:24:59,212
Speaker 20: landed in Auckland.

1814
01:24:59,692 --> 01:25:01,532
Speaker 2: Wow how long? How long were you sitting on them?

1815
01:25:01,532 --> 01:25:02,092
Speaker 2: For Alvin?

1816
01:25:03,213 --> 01:25:06,692
Speaker 20: I don't know how well now in the bet was

1817
01:25:06,692 --> 01:25:09,612
Speaker 20: he comfy? But it was papers should be reported to

1818
01:25:09,853 --> 01:25:10,852
Speaker 20: but I do remember it.

1819
01:25:11,133 --> 01:25:14,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what year was this?

1820
01:25:16,933 --> 01:25:20,853
Speaker 20: Oh? Look, I'm saying it's probably early nineties, nineties.

1821
01:25:21,173 --> 01:25:24,652
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you can still take your b

1822
01:25:24,772 --> 01:25:28,093
Speaker 2: why you know, you're your alcohol you can't take you can?

1823
01:25:28,173 --> 01:25:31,133
Speaker 2: You can if you buy it at at a Judy

1824
01:25:31,133 --> 01:25:33,012
Speaker 2: free you can take on the plane. But you can't

1825
01:25:33,053 --> 01:25:34,572
Speaker 2: just be drinking straight out of you one one, two

1826
01:25:34,572 --> 01:25:35,932
Speaker 2: five of kidneymore, can you?

1827
01:25:37,213 --> 01:25:37,412
Speaker 4: Well?

1828
01:25:37,412 --> 01:25:40,173
Speaker 20: I do remember the stun has told him he wasn't

1829
01:25:40,213 --> 01:25:41,213
Speaker 20: allowed to drink out of them.

1830
01:25:41,652 --> 01:25:43,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I mean, I think it's been

1831
01:25:43,333 --> 01:25:44,772
Speaker 2: a long time since you've been allowed to do that.

1832
01:25:45,173 --> 01:25:48,093
Speaker 2: So so did the person that was fighting him on

1833
01:25:48,133 --> 01:25:51,612
Speaker 2: the path behind? Was he a good person? Was he

1834
01:25:51,692 --> 01:25:53,333
Speaker 2: in the right? Was he just trying to calm this

1835
01:25:53,372 --> 01:25:56,372
Speaker 2: person down or was he also ended up in trouble?

1836
01:25:57,812 --> 01:26:01,932
Speaker 20: No, he was. I think he was trying to maybe

1837
01:26:02,013 --> 01:26:05,852
Speaker 20: something like your seat adjustment. And then the guy got upset,

1838
01:26:05,893 --> 01:26:09,053
Speaker 20: and then the two of them really got into each other.

1839
01:26:10,372 --> 01:26:12,173
Speaker 2: When you're in a first fight on a plane, you've

1840
01:26:12,173 --> 01:26:15,732
Speaker 2: gotta sort of ask yourself, you know, how's this going

1841
01:26:15,732 --> 01:26:18,932
Speaker 2: to end? That's always the thing that I wonder because

1842
01:26:19,133 --> 01:26:23,053
Speaker 2: there was such strict laws around and rolls around how

1843
01:26:23,093 --> 01:26:24,692
Speaker 2: you can play it behave on a plane. So when

1844
01:26:24,692 --> 01:26:26,333
Speaker 2: you're in a first fight, you're going this is not

1845
01:26:26,372 --> 01:26:27,293
Speaker 2: going to end well for me.

1846
01:26:27,372 --> 01:26:29,652
Speaker 3: There's no getting away. You can't you can't scarp her

1847
01:26:29,732 --> 01:26:31,652
Speaker 3: off after you have your wee misty cuffs.

1848
01:26:31,772 --> 01:26:33,852
Speaker 2: Not only am I going to be in trouble, but

1849
01:26:33,933 --> 01:26:36,173
Speaker 2: it's going to be public trouble. As you say, Elvin,

1850
01:26:36,173 --> 01:26:37,092
Speaker 2: that's going to make the news.

1851
01:26:37,173 --> 01:26:41,612
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's not the only one. I tell you. The

1852
01:26:41,732 --> 01:26:45,452
Speaker 20: head of Well have a big corporation in Japan, he

1853
01:26:45,572 --> 01:26:47,612
Speaker 20: got rotten drunk on and then ms on the flight

1854
01:26:47,692 --> 01:26:51,013
Speaker 20: and we had to contain him on the floor. Literally,

1855
01:26:51,293 --> 01:26:52,652
Speaker 20: he went to sleep on the floor.

1856
01:26:53,933 --> 01:26:57,532
Speaker 2: You are you You're just a passenger on these planes

1857
01:27:00,452 --> 01:27:03,852
Speaker 2: every couple of weeks, so you've you've had to restrain

1858
01:27:03,973 --> 01:27:07,372
Speaker 2: two different people on two different flights in your time.

1859
01:27:08,973 --> 01:27:13,532
Speaker 20: Oh more than that, America that was I can tell

1860
01:27:13,572 --> 01:27:15,692
Speaker 20: you a story of America. But look that's just a

1861
01:27:15,732 --> 01:27:16,173
Speaker 20: few of them.

1862
01:27:17,293 --> 01:27:19,772
Speaker 3: So just on the guy who smashed back the vodka

1863
01:27:19,812 --> 01:27:22,492
Speaker 3: and got into a wrestle with another persenger. Was that

1864
01:27:22,652 --> 01:27:23,372
Speaker 3: on in New Zealand?

1865
01:27:23,412 --> 01:27:23,572
Speaker 8: Was it?

1866
01:27:23,612 --> 01:27:24,852
Speaker 3: I'm going to try and find that story.

1867
01:27:25,812 --> 01:27:33,972
Speaker 20: It was DC tens of memory. That's not the date throng,

1868
01:27:34,053 --> 01:27:36,052
Speaker 20: but I do remember it anyway.

1869
01:27:36,253 --> 01:27:38,213
Speaker 3: That's a doozy help and thank you very much.

1870
01:27:38,293 --> 01:27:42,452
Speaker 20: The Japanese one that was in New Zealand as well. Yeah,

1871
01:27:42,933 --> 01:27:44,733
Speaker 20: he was the head of the Big Steel corporation.

1872
01:27:47,173 --> 01:27:48,692
Speaker 2: So if you you want to be on a flight

1873
01:27:48,692 --> 01:27:51,213
Speaker 2: with Alvin, if any trouble goes down, then he'll sit

1874
01:27:51,293 --> 01:27:54,652
Speaker 2: on the person until your land and that person could

1875
01:27:54,652 --> 01:27:56,172
Speaker 2: be safely removed by authorities.

1876
01:27:56,173 --> 01:27:58,013
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of experience. By the sound of it.

1877
01:27:58,173 --> 01:28:00,052
Speaker 2: You were never allowed to drink your own Judy Free,

1878
01:28:00,093 --> 01:28:03,053
Speaker 2: I started as an air flight attendant in nineteen eighty four.

1879
01:28:03,133 --> 01:28:05,093
Speaker 2: Yeah I knew because I was on a plane with

1880
01:28:05,093 --> 01:28:09,532
Speaker 2: a mate and he started drinking his beers. So we've

1881
01:28:09,532 --> 01:28:11,412
Speaker 2: been delayed and he started drinking. He was just cracking

1882
01:28:11,412 --> 01:28:12,053
Speaker 2: the bottles and I.

1883
01:28:12,013 --> 01:28:13,293
Speaker 3: Was like, hey, what are you doing.

1884
01:28:13,333 --> 01:28:15,412
Speaker 2: I was like, spoos, you can't do that, and he said,

1885
01:28:15,412 --> 01:28:16,973
Speaker 2: you you can. I was allowed to bring them on

1886
01:28:16,973 --> 01:28:19,452
Speaker 2: the plane. I was like, no, you can't, can't. And

1887
01:28:19,452 --> 01:28:21,133
Speaker 2: then I think some of his bottles rolled down the

1888
01:28:21,133 --> 01:28:22,052
Speaker 2: aisle and then he got.

1889
01:28:22,333 --> 01:28:26,253
Speaker 3: The game over. Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty couple, one

1890
01:28:26,372 --> 01:28:28,852
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call the

1891
01:28:28,893 --> 01:28:32,333
Speaker 3: worst behavior on flights. Love to hear your stories and

1892
01:28:32,372 --> 01:28:35,053
Speaker 3: what really does you hid in when you see it

1893
01:28:35,093 --> 01:28:37,333
Speaker 3: on a flight? It is nineteen past.

1894
01:28:37,093 --> 01:28:45,293
Speaker 1: Three matd Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

1895
01:28:45,333 --> 01:28:47,533
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1896
01:28:47,652 --> 01:28:51,133
Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. We're talking about bad behavior on flights.

1897
01:28:51,412 --> 01:28:53,012
Speaker 3: This is on the back of any New Zealand flight

1898
01:28:53,053 --> 01:28:55,213
Speaker 3: to la It was delayed by an hour and a

1899
01:28:55,253 --> 01:28:59,972
Speaker 3: half after a disruptive passenger incident. That's how they've described it.

1900
01:29:00,253 --> 01:29:01,253
Speaker 3: No other details.

1901
01:29:01,372 --> 01:29:03,452
Speaker 2: Yes, we want to hear your complaints about people's but

1902
01:29:03,772 --> 01:29:06,892
Speaker 2: other people's behavior on planes, although we did a entire

1903
01:29:06,893 --> 01:29:08,133
Speaker 2: hour at the start of the show and people not

1904
01:29:08,133 --> 01:29:12,213
Speaker 2: when but anyway, your complaints of people on planes and

1905
01:29:12,812 --> 01:29:15,732
Speaker 2: oh look at this, Cheryl, you had a friend that

1906
01:29:15,853 --> 01:29:16,492
Speaker 2: was on that flight.

1907
01:29:17,173 --> 01:29:19,972
Speaker 23: Yes, I got a text at twenty past two yesterday

1908
01:29:20,013 --> 01:29:22,852
Speaker 23: from my friend right and it says what a journey

1909
01:29:23,572 --> 01:29:26,973
Speaker 23: flight to San Francisco was canceled When I started to

1910
01:29:26,973 --> 01:29:30,012
Speaker 23: write to check in, that was like an eight o'clock flight.

1911
01:29:30,452 --> 01:29:32,452
Speaker 23: The next flight was eight o'clock in the morning. They

1912
01:29:32,452 --> 01:29:35,772
Speaker 23: were told next day, but then they got a message

1913
01:29:35,772 --> 01:29:39,293
Speaker 23: to say they actually could travel by LA. Right, so

1914
01:29:39,372 --> 01:29:41,732
Speaker 23: the plane was due to go at nine ten didn't

1915
01:29:41,812 --> 01:29:44,932
Speaker 23: leave to ten o'clock. Many from my flight were all

1916
01:29:44,933 --> 01:29:48,852
Speaker 23: downgraded to economy business as well as premium because my

1917
01:29:48,853 --> 01:29:51,732
Speaker 23: friend always travels premier economy. So they all got got

1918
01:29:51,772 --> 01:29:54,932
Speaker 23: on this flight, but we're all downgraded. One man met

1919
01:29:54,933 --> 01:29:58,772
Speaker 23: ballistic and became very beligerent and aggressive, so the flight

1920
01:29:58,812 --> 01:30:01,812
Speaker 23: captain wasn't having it, so he taxi back to the

1921
01:30:01,853 --> 01:30:05,333
Speaker 23: airport and after I'd loaded him and his luggage. Wow,

1922
01:30:05,532 --> 01:30:08,732
Speaker 23: So La my worst night were in airport. And then

1923
01:30:08,732 --> 01:30:11,133
Speaker 23: because she had trouble with the ongoing bookings, got nothing

1924
01:30:11,173 --> 01:30:14,052
Speaker 23: matched and you know she's got that sat. The dramas

1925
01:30:14,053 --> 01:30:16,452
Speaker 23: went on for her from there. You know, they didn't

1926
01:30:16,492 --> 01:30:18,852
Speaker 23: recognize the flight because things were changing. All of that.

1927
01:30:19,213 --> 01:30:22,133
Speaker 23: She had all nightmare and seven hours in LA. So

1928
01:30:22,173 --> 01:30:25,773
Speaker 23: that's how her right when you started.

1929
01:30:25,492 --> 01:30:27,372
Speaker 2: So your friend was downgraded as well.

1930
01:30:27,893 --> 01:30:30,133
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, but she she took it an economy and

1931
01:30:30,173 --> 01:30:30,893
Speaker 23: the plane.

1932
01:30:30,612 --> 01:30:32,493
Speaker 2: So she but she took it with good grace.

1933
01:30:33,812 --> 01:30:38,012
Speaker 23: Obviously not very happily, but she didn't want any Zealand

1934
01:30:38,133 --> 01:30:41,132
Speaker 23: cancers on her last year when she went, and because

1935
01:30:41,133 --> 01:30:43,052
Speaker 23: she had ongoing book and she ended up paying another

1936
01:30:43,053 --> 01:30:45,572
Speaker 23: four grand has to go business class because there's an

1937
01:30:45,612 --> 01:30:48,133
Speaker 23: option to get there. So this is second time, and

1938
01:30:48,253 --> 01:30:50,253
Speaker 23: he didn't vetted down by canceling a flight.

1939
01:30:50,612 --> 01:30:54,173
Speaker 2: When they downgrade, do they say you'll get a refund?

1940
01:30:54,532 --> 01:30:56,612
Speaker 23: Oh, I don't know. I don't know she's get a

1941
01:30:56,612 --> 01:30:59,173
Speaker 23: refund on that. She just had flight connections. And you

1942
01:30:59,253 --> 01:31:01,133
Speaker 23: when you're going for a short time and got the

1943
01:31:01,173 --> 01:31:04,532
Speaker 23: rest of your holiday planned, did not going days later?

1944
01:31:04,652 --> 01:31:07,812
Speaker 23: Do you a day later? Because there's nothing nothing did

1945
01:31:07,853 --> 01:31:08,173
Speaker 23: she did?

1946
01:31:08,173 --> 01:31:13,012
Speaker 2: She sherel Did you have any more details on how

1947
01:31:13,053 --> 01:31:14,892
Speaker 2: disruptive this particular individual got.

1948
01:31:15,572 --> 01:31:18,173
Speaker 23: No, I don't know how much she saw. She just

1949
01:31:18,213 --> 01:31:22,372
Speaker 23: said he went blistered, became very bligerate and aggressive. Well,

1950
01:31:22,412 --> 01:31:24,692
Speaker 23: I don't know what his problem was, Probably because he

1951
01:31:24,812 --> 01:31:26,532
Speaker 23: was possibly down the back of the plane when he

1952
01:31:26,692 --> 01:31:29,293
Speaker 23: was originally booked to go to the front of the plane.

1953
01:31:29,333 --> 01:31:32,452
Speaker 23: I don't know it sounds like it is usually quite

1954
01:31:32,853 --> 01:31:36,693
Speaker 23: My friend is usually quite eloquent in her texts and language,

1955
01:31:36,933 --> 01:31:39,932
Speaker 23: so yeah, yeah, and of course then are other dramas,

1956
01:31:40,013 --> 01:31:42,093
Speaker 23: you know, because then she's trying to unbook her other

1957
01:31:42,133 --> 01:31:43,892
Speaker 23: flights and you know, so.

1958
01:31:44,013 --> 01:31:44,772
Speaker 8: You have its sister.

1959
01:31:45,612 --> 01:31:47,412
Speaker 23: Not easy when you're a mature lady.

1960
01:31:47,572 --> 01:31:50,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, oll think if you call Cheryl.

1961
01:31:50,652 --> 01:31:52,812
Speaker 3: Well, we asked and and Cheryl delivered.

1962
01:31:53,333 --> 01:31:56,572
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that person has been downgraded from business

1963
01:31:56,572 --> 01:32:00,093
Speaker 2: class to cattle class. Right to go that to go?

1964
01:32:00,173 --> 01:32:04,652
Speaker 2: That become belligerent and cause enough problems to.

1965
01:32:04,853 --> 01:32:06,853
Speaker 3: Be ballistic just for being downgraded.

1966
01:32:07,053 --> 01:32:09,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the thing is, you know, how much worse

1967
01:32:09,333 --> 01:32:12,333
Speaker 2: are the consequences of anger than the causes, if you

1968
01:32:12,412 --> 01:32:14,933
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So he's angry about this situation

1969
01:32:15,013 --> 01:32:18,053
Speaker 2: that he's been downgraded from business or premium economy, but

1970
01:32:18,293 --> 01:32:20,613
Speaker 2: to me, it seems like business to get that angry.

1971
01:32:21,173 --> 01:32:25,293
Speaker 2: And then so his situation has become worse than worse. Yes,

1972
01:32:25,372 --> 01:32:28,213
Speaker 2: he was looking forward to traveling in business, but not

1973
01:32:28,293 --> 01:32:31,932
Speaker 2: as bad as the plane taxigain And you're getting kicked

1974
01:32:31,973 --> 01:32:35,173
Speaker 2: off exactly, And then muppets on the radio laughing about you.

1975
01:32:36,652 --> 01:32:38,612
Speaker 3: So Cheryl, thank you very much. Can I just go

1976
01:32:38,692 --> 01:32:42,173
Speaker 3: one further. If you know the individual involved and who

1977
01:32:42,253 --> 01:32:45,092
Speaker 3: went ballistic, we we'd love to hear game and shame.

1978
01:32:45,492 --> 01:32:47,732
Speaker 3: Who was it? Who was it? Someone famous? We want

1979
01:32:47,732 --> 01:32:47,973
Speaker 3: to hear.

1980
01:32:48,093 --> 01:32:50,572
Speaker 2: I you're assuming that someone famous?

1981
01:32:50,612 --> 01:32:51,893
Speaker 3: Now, well, you know, if they've got a bit of

1982
01:32:51,893 --> 01:32:53,732
Speaker 3: money up the off the front of the plane, you

1983
01:32:53,812 --> 01:32:56,732
Speaker 3: never know, all right, I one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1984
01:32:56,772 --> 01:33:00,732
Speaker 3: But we're also talking about bad behavior on airplanes in general.

1985
01:33:00,812 --> 01:33:02,093
Speaker 3: What are the things that.

1986
01:33:02,133 --> 01:33:04,013
Speaker 2: Really do your head? And if you're flying, keen to

1987
01:33:04,053 --> 01:33:04,572
Speaker 2: hear from.

1988
01:33:04,452 --> 01:33:07,293
Speaker 3: You, I hually will take one more before the headline,

1989
01:33:07,293 --> 01:33:08,293
Speaker 3: because we've got a bit of time.

1990
01:33:08,732 --> 01:33:12,973
Speaker 2: Paul, Paul, you want to talk about recliners.

1991
01:33:12,973 --> 01:33:15,612
Speaker 21: Some years ago, I was on a flight walk into

1992
01:33:15,812 --> 01:33:20,253
Speaker 21: LA and the meal got served and before I could

1993
01:33:20,293 --> 01:33:23,852
Speaker 21: even pick up my knife and fork right back.

1994
01:33:24,093 --> 01:33:26,732
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I.

1995
01:33:26,812 --> 01:33:30,173
Speaker 21: Grabbed the head wrist and I started shaking up from

1996
01:33:30,213 --> 01:33:36,093
Speaker 21: all I was worth. Got to the nixtuor of Russians back,

1997
01:33:36,612 --> 01:33:38,692
Speaker 21: asked the lady to put his seat up, sit up,

1998
01:33:39,692 --> 01:33:41,372
Speaker 21: and then just gave me a sort of a knowing

1999
01:33:41,492 --> 01:33:44,532
Speaker 21: smile and a nod and keep on going. Problem solved.

2000
01:33:46,253 --> 01:33:49,892
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that is it's an effective strategy clearly, Paul.

2001
01:33:50,013 --> 01:33:52,932
Speaker 3: So the hostess didn't ever go for going Well, Paul

2002
01:33:53,013 --> 01:33:53,652
Speaker 3: was in the right here.

2003
01:33:53,772 --> 01:33:58,213
Speaker 2: So Paul was effectively doing the stewart's job because you're

2004
01:33:58,253 --> 01:34:00,133
Speaker 2: not allowed to recline when it's time to die.

2005
01:34:00,293 --> 01:34:02,133
Speaker 3: I said it was an effective strategy, but Paul, it

2006
01:34:02,372 --> 01:34:04,572
Speaker 3: was you know, you went straight for ten, didn't you,

2007
01:34:04,973 --> 01:34:07,972
Speaker 3: Rather than than just go slowly, you just start shaking

2008
01:34:08,013 --> 01:34:10,892
Speaker 3: the head that will get the job done. Or nine

2009
01:34:10,973 --> 01:34:13,532
Speaker 3: I didn't clock her, okay, yeah, nine, No, it's there.

2010
01:34:13,652 --> 01:34:18,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well see, you get what you deserve if

2011
01:34:18,452 --> 01:34:22,492
Speaker 2: you recline when it's time to dine. Yeah.

2012
01:34:22,652 --> 01:34:26,452
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, you seep as if I'm ever in front

2013
01:34:26,492 --> 01:34:28,652
Speaker 3: of you guys on a plane, I'm deeply not reclining.

2014
01:34:28,853 --> 01:34:30,732
Speaker 2: Pulls the good guy in the situation. He's a hero.

2015
01:34:31,333 --> 01:34:33,772
Speaker 2: He's a hero. If someone reclines when it's time to dine,

2016
01:34:33,973 --> 01:34:37,732
Speaker 2: then shake shake that there needs to be a you know,

2017
01:34:38,093 --> 01:34:40,732
Speaker 2: public service announcement, you know the opposite of shake the baby,

2018
01:34:40,772 --> 01:34:43,732
Speaker 2: shake the seat. Someone reclines when it's time to dine,

2019
01:34:43,893 --> 01:34:44,572
Speaker 2: shake the seat.

2020
01:34:45,333 --> 01:34:45,572
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2021
01:34:45,973 --> 01:34:48,013
Speaker 2: A lot of people are angry at my take on that.

2022
01:34:48,333 --> 01:34:50,612
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eight. If you want to give me

2023
01:34:50,732 --> 01:34:53,333
Speaker 3: a bit of stick you more than welcome is twenty

2024
01:34:53,372 --> 01:34:54,133
Speaker 3: seven past three.

2025
01:34:57,093 --> 01:34:57,852
Speaker 2: US Talk said.

2026
01:34:57,893 --> 01:35:01,532
Speaker 14: The headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with

2027
01:35:01,652 --> 01:35:05,333
Speaker 14: a blue bubble. Labour's leaders says women have every right

2028
01:35:05,452 --> 01:35:08,253
Speaker 14: to be furious, so the government moves to make pay

2029
01:35:08,333 --> 01:35:12,213
Speaker 14: the equity claims harder. The government will pass legislation under

2030
01:35:12,333 --> 01:35:16,293
Speaker 14: urgency this month and is pausing unresolved claims of sex

2031
01:35:16,412 --> 01:35:20,812
Speaker 14: based discrimination, which will have to be refiled. The order

2032
01:35:20,893 --> 01:35:24,652
Speaker 14: to general public sector watchdogs putting the much criticized cut

2033
01:35:24,772 --> 01:35:29,893
Speaker 14: price government school lunches under the microscope, probing the planning contracts,

2034
01:35:30,253 --> 01:35:34,732
Speaker 14: nutritional value and procurement. A twenty five year old man's

2035
01:35:34,732 --> 01:35:37,372
Speaker 14: appeared in court after a shot was fired at a

2036
01:35:37,452 --> 01:35:42,212
Speaker 14: person in Masterton's Ministry of Social Development office yesterday. Nobody

2037
01:35:42,412 --> 01:35:46,452
Speaker 14: was hurt. A Keywi film and television producer says Donald

2038
01:35:46,452 --> 01:35:50,293
Speaker 14: Trump's latest taroff plans may go against a law passed

2039
01:35:50,372 --> 01:35:54,372
Speaker 14: by the US Congress barring a president regulating import or

2040
01:35:54,532 --> 01:35:57,293
Speaker 14: export of things like movies, books and music.

2041
01:35:58,372 --> 01:35:58,732
Speaker 2: TESLA.

2042
01:35:58,853 --> 01:36:02,732
Speaker 14: New Zealand's revenue fell sixty percent last year after government

2043
01:36:02,853 --> 01:36:07,532
Speaker 14: incentives were cut. Nearly five hundred thousand people behind on

2044
01:36:07,772 --> 01:36:11,452
Speaker 14: loan payments. Mortgage areas had an eight year high. You

2045
01:36:11,532 --> 01:36:14,612
Speaker 14: can read more at enzid Herald Premium. Now back to

2046
01:36:14,772 --> 01:36:16,052
Speaker 14: Matt Teeth and Tyler Adams.

2047
01:36:16,293 --> 01:36:18,452
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about bad

2048
01:36:18,612 --> 01:36:22,892
Speaker 3: behavior on flights on the back of a story there

2049
01:36:22,973 --> 01:36:25,412
Speaker 3: in New Zealand flight to la had to be delayed

2050
01:36:25,973 --> 01:36:28,612
Speaker 3: due to, as we now know, thanks to Sheryl one

2051
01:36:28,652 --> 01:36:30,932
Speaker 3: of our callers, a man who went the listick because

2052
01:36:30,933 --> 01:36:31,692
Speaker 3: he got downgraded.

2053
01:36:31,772 --> 01:36:31,932
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2054
01:36:31,933 --> 01:36:34,772
Speaker 2: Ah, lot of people got downgraded, but one person was

2055
01:36:35,253 --> 01:36:39,452
Speaker 2: became belligerent and got downgraded again off the plane, which

2056
01:36:39,532 --> 01:36:41,093
Speaker 2: wasn't great for the people on the plane because the

2057
01:36:41,093 --> 01:36:44,812
Speaker 2: plane was delayed for ninety five minutes. So good on you, mate,

2058
01:36:44,933 --> 01:36:46,892
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate for messing around with a whole

2059
01:36:47,013 --> 01:36:50,253
Speaker 2: a bunch of other people. But whenever there is a

2060
01:36:50,572 --> 01:36:55,532
Speaker 2: disruption on a plane, I always think of this moment

2061
01:36:55,732 --> 01:36:58,293
Speaker 2: from Meet the Parents, when Ben Stiller's characters trying to

2062
01:36:58,333 --> 01:36:59,572
Speaker 2: stow his luggage on a plane.

2063
01:36:59,732 --> 01:37:01,532
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Sarah, you're going to have to check out.

2064
01:37:02,173 --> 01:37:03,492
Speaker 18: No, I'm sorry that bad won't.

2065
01:37:03,652 --> 01:37:05,652
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not I'm not checking my back.

2066
01:37:05,732 --> 01:37:07,932
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, there's no need to raise your voice, sir.

2067
01:37:08,213 --> 01:37:10,013
Speaker 2: I'm not raising my voice. This would be raising my

2068
01:37:10,133 --> 01:37:12,772
Speaker 2: voice to you. Okay, I don't want to check my bag. Okay.

2069
01:37:13,053 --> 01:37:16,293
Speaker 10: And by the way, your airline, you suck at checking bags, okay,

2070
01:37:16,333 --> 01:37:18,013
Speaker 10: because I already did that once and you lost it,

2071
01:37:18,213 --> 01:37:20,692
Speaker 10: and then I had everything screwed up very badly for me.

2072
01:37:20,893 --> 01:37:21,732
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I can.

2073
01:37:21,732 --> 01:37:23,932
Speaker 18: Assure you that your bag, we'll we play safely below

2074
01:37:24,013 --> 01:37:25,132
Speaker 18: deck with the other luggage.

2075
01:37:25,213 --> 01:37:27,093
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how do you know my bag will be

2076
01:37:27,133 --> 01:37:28,372
Speaker 2: safe below with the other luggage.

2077
01:37:28,652 --> 01:37:28,812
Speaker 9: Huh?

2078
01:37:29,053 --> 01:37:30,652
Speaker 10: Are you physically gonna take my bag and put it

2079
01:37:30,692 --> 01:37:32,612
Speaker 10: beneath the plane? Are you gonna go right now outside

2080
01:37:32,732 --> 01:37:34,093
Speaker 10: with the guys with the ear muffs and go put

2081
01:37:34,133 --> 01:37:36,852
Speaker 10: it in there? No? No, Okay, then shut your pie

2082
01:37:36,893 --> 01:37:39,612
Speaker 10: hole and listen to me when I say that I

2083
01:37:39,692 --> 01:37:42,653
Speaker 10: am finished with the checking of the bags conversation.

2084
01:37:43,853 --> 01:37:43,973
Speaker 4: Sir.

2085
01:37:44,133 --> 01:37:46,052
Speaker 2: We have a policy on this airline get a bag

2086
01:37:46,093 --> 01:37:46,932
Speaker 2: at this lodge, Okay.

2087
01:37:47,173 --> 01:37:47,372
Speaker 4: You know what.

2088
01:37:49,213 --> 01:37:52,133
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not like I have a bomb in here.

2089
01:37:52,333 --> 01:37:53,772
Speaker 3: It's not like I want to blow a plane.

2090
01:37:53,853 --> 01:37:56,293
Speaker 10: I just want to stole my bag according to your

2091
01:37:56,333 --> 01:37:59,293
Speaker 10: safety regulation, sir. Hey, sir, you would take a second

2092
01:37:59,372 --> 01:38:01,093
Speaker 10: and take a little sticks out of your head, clean

2093
01:38:01,133 --> 01:38:02,772
Speaker 10: at your ears, and maybe you would see that I'm

2094
01:38:02,772 --> 01:38:04,173
Speaker 10: a person who has feelings.

2095
01:38:03,853 --> 01:38:05,412
Speaker 2: And all I have to do is do what I

2096
01:38:05,532 --> 01:38:05,893
Speaker 2: want to do.

2097
01:38:06,053 --> 01:38:07,973
Speaker 10: And all I want to do is hold onto my

2098
01:38:08,053 --> 01:38:10,452
Speaker 10: bag and not listen to you. And the only way

2099
01:38:10,452 --> 01:38:12,052
Speaker 10: that I would ever let go in my back would

2100
01:38:12,053 --> 01:38:13,852
Speaker 10: be if you came over here right now and tried

2101
01:38:13,893 --> 01:38:17,372
Speaker 10: to pry it from my dead, lifeless fingers. Okay, if

2102
01:38:17,372 --> 01:38:19,133
Speaker 10: you can get it from my kung fu grip, then

2103
01:38:19,173 --> 01:38:22,092
Speaker 10: you can come and have it, Okay. Otherwise, step off.

2104
01:38:23,492 --> 01:38:26,333
Speaker 2: Such a good say, that's so far striting. You're raising

2105
01:38:26,372 --> 01:38:29,933
Speaker 2: your voice now, I'm not. It's a classic Kathy. What

2106
01:38:30,213 --> 01:38:34,293
Speaker 2: you got physically thrown off a plane? I understand I did.

2107
01:38:34,652 --> 01:38:37,092
Speaker 18: I sure did. And I was seventy three.

2108
01:38:37,013 --> 01:38:37,572
Speaker 20: At the time.

2109
01:38:38,053 --> 01:38:38,852
Speaker 2: Wow what did you do?

2110
01:38:39,412 --> 01:38:40,612
Speaker 18: Wow, I'm not.

2111
01:38:40,692 --> 01:38:43,133
Speaker 17: I'm a tiny person seventy three years old.

2112
01:38:43,253 --> 01:38:49,933
Speaker 18: Well, my fishirt had a stroke and I got the

2113
01:38:50,053 --> 01:38:51,893
Speaker 18: first plan I could get out of New Zealand to

2114
01:38:52,093 --> 01:38:55,053
Speaker 18: the United States because it was a midnight's light I

2115
01:38:55,213 --> 01:38:56,652
Speaker 18: know that I get up in the middle of the

2116
01:38:56,732 --> 01:38:59,133
Speaker 18: night to go to the bathroom. So I got to

2117
01:38:59,333 --> 01:39:03,012
Speaker 18: the airport very early to make sure that I could

2118
01:39:03,053 --> 01:39:06,333
Speaker 18: get an aisle seat, and I did get an aisle seat,

2119
01:39:06,893 --> 01:39:08,572
Speaker 18: and I got on the plane one of the first

2120
01:39:08,612 --> 01:39:10,053
Speaker 18: people on the plane because I was one of the

2121
01:39:10,093 --> 01:39:13,452
Speaker 18: first people up the gate, and I was old, here,

2122
01:39:13,452 --> 01:39:15,933
Speaker 18: I have my bag put away, and it was the

2123
01:39:16,013 --> 01:39:19,572
Speaker 18: right place bent and I was sitting there for about

2124
01:39:19,612 --> 01:39:22,213
Speaker 18: ten minutes when a young couple came up and they said,

2125
01:39:22,253 --> 01:39:24,133
Speaker 18: we're sorry, but you seem to be in our seat,

2126
01:39:24,652 --> 01:39:28,333
Speaker 18: and I showed them my boarding pass and the person

2127
01:39:28,452 --> 01:39:33,213
Speaker 18: had duplicated passes, so I said, well, I'm sorry, I

2128
01:39:33,333 --> 01:39:35,572
Speaker 18: been here for ten minutes. And they went and they complained,

2129
01:39:35,652 --> 01:39:38,333
Speaker 18: and a steward came and he was very nice. He

2130
01:39:38,412 --> 01:39:41,173
Speaker 18: squatted down next to me and he quietly said, could

2131
01:39:41,253 --> 01:39:42,652
Speaker 18: we ask you to move to the back of the

2132
01:39:42,692 --> 01:39:44,973
Speaker 18: plane freeze And I said, look, if you can get

2133
01:39:45,013 --> 01:39:47,333
Speaker 18: me and i'll see, I'm happy to move. And he said, well,

2134
01:39:47,412 --> 01:39:49,612
Speaker 18: we can't promise that, and I said, well, I can't

2135
01:39:49,652 --> 01:39:51,372
Speaker 18: get stuck at a one tow see when I got

2136
01:39:51,452 --> 01:39:51,852
Speaker 18: a peep in.

2137
01:39:51,853 --> 01:39:53,213
Speaker 11: The middle of the night, you know.

2138
01:39:53,612 --> 01:39:56,692
Speaker 18: So he bought another man, and that other man towered

2139
01:39:56,812 --> 01:39:59,812
Speaker 18: over me and kind of pointed his finger down at

2140
01:39:59,853 --> 01:40:02,173
Speaker 18: me and he said, well, my stack tells you to move,

2141
01:40:02,572 --> 01:40:06,732
Speaker 18: you move, and people started looking at me. And I said,

2142
01:40:06,772 --> 01:40:09,892
Speaker 18: but but I was here first. I have a farting path.

2143
01:40:10,333 --> 01:40:12,652
Speaker 18: And he said, you get there and you go to

2144
01:40:12,732 --> 01:40:15,293
Speaker 18: the back of the plane and you move, or you

2145
01:40:15,412 --> 01:40:18,253
Speaker 18: get off the plane. And I said, but why, And

2146
01:40:18,372 --> 01:40:20,372
Speaker 18: that's only this. I didn't yell at. I said, but why,

2147
01:40:20,692 --> 01:40:22,452
Speaker 18: And he said that's it. You're off and he threw

2148
01:40:22,492 --> 01:40:27,012
Speaker 18: his hands in the air and I was escorted off wow,

2149
01:40:27,412 --> 01:40:31,372
Speaker 18: with everybody looking. Everybody looking and go, you know, whispering

2150
01:40:31,412 --> 01:40:34,093
Speaker 18: about me. And I got to the exit of the

2151
01:40:34,133 --> 01:40:36,372
Speaker 18: plane and I started crying and I said, my sister

2152
01:40:36,532 --> 01:40:39,612
Speaker 18: is dying and I have to I have to be there.

2153
01:40:39,652 --> 01:40:41,133
Speaker 18: And he said, well, then you get back there and

2154
01:40:41,213 --> 01:40:43,133
Speaker 18: you keep you know, he didn't keep your mouth shut.

2155
01:40:43,173 --> 01:40:45,772
Speaker 18: He said, you get back there and you behave yourself.

2156
01:40:46,293 --> 01:40:47,933
Speaker 18: And I said, but I just he said you, I

2157
01:40:47,973 --> 01:40:51,652
Speaker 18: don't want to hear anything from you and I and

2158
01:40:51,772 --> 01:40:54,613
Speaker 18: I got back on the plane. And when I complained

2159
01:40:54,772 --> 01:40:57,652
Speaker 18: to AM, I like to say the name of the airlines, yeah,

2160
01:40:57,692 --> 01:41:02,213
Speaker 18: get U. When I complained to Hawaiian Airlines about it,

2161
01:41:02,732 --> 01:41:05,652
Speaker 18: I said, my my concern is that I would like this.

2162
01:41:06,093 --> 01:41:08,213
Speaker 18: He was a senior person. I looked at his badge

2163
01:41:08,213 --> 01:41:10,213
Speaker 18: and he said, that's right. My name is such and

2164
01:41:10,293 --> 01:41:12,932
Speaker 18: such an. I am the senior supervisor of the senior

2165
01:41:13,013 --> 01:41:16,893
Speaker 18: steward here. And I said, well, okay, I said, you know,

2166
01:41:16,933 --> 01:41:19,732
Speaker 18: if you've got a senior steward, that was not only

2167
01:41:20,013 --> 01:41:22,933
Speaker 18: humiliating to me, but it was humiliating to your airline.

2168
01:41:23,053 --> 01:41:27,213
Speaker 18: Everybody was watching how I was being treated, and they

2169
01:41:27,333 --> 01:41:30,133
Speaker 18: offered me one hundred dollars discount on my next life.

2170
01:41:30,293 --> 01:41:34,293
Speaker 2: Right, So, after all that, did you so you didn't

2171
01:41:34,333 --> 01:41:36,612
Speaker 2: you got physically moved down the plane, but did you

2172
01:41:36,732 --> 01:41:39,452
Speaker 2: actually go back to your seat a seat afterwards?

2173
01:41:41,532 --> 01:41:41,572
Speaker 10: No?

2174
01:41:41,732 --> 01:41:45,372
Speaker 18: No, I got I had to go. I got back

2175
01:41:45,452 --> 01:41:48,612
Speaker 18: into the airplane and they put me in a middle

2176
01:41:48,652 --> 01:41:51,293
Speaker 18: steed at the very back row of the airplane. And

2177
01:41:51,372 --> 01:41:52,932
Speaker 18: the guy who was sitting on the aisle, I said,

2178
01:41:52,973 --> 01:41:54,572
Speaker 18: would you want to change with me because I'm going

2179
01:41:54,612 --> 01:41:57,212
Speaker 18: to have to distribute at night to go to the bathroom.

2180
01:41:57,253 --> 01:41:59,892
Speaker 18: And he said no, you know, he didn't want to change.

2181
01:42:00,612 --> 01:42:03,852
Speaker 3: Oh well that was sorry.

2182
01:42:03,893 --> 01:42:04,093
Speaker 4: You go.

2183
01:42:05,692 --> 01:42:07,812
Speaker 16: Well, I was just going to say that the.

2184
01:42:07,893 --> 01:42:12,092
Speaker 18: Person in my situation that was the aggressor was the Steward.

2185
01:42:12,452 --> 01:42:15,572
Speaker 18: He was under pressure, it was getting late. But I

2186
01:42:15,732 --> 01:42:18,173
Speaker 18: have never been treated like that by a professional ever

2187
01:42:18,532 --> 01:42:20,213
Speaker 18: in my life, and I hope never to be again.

2188
01:42:20,492 --> 01:42:22,692
Speaker 2: Oh thank you for sharing your story with us.

2189
01:42:23,652 --> 01:42:25,972
Speaker 3: That was a very well told story. But it sounds

2190
01:42:26,053 --> 01:42:29,932
Speaker 3: like two alpha personalities coming against each other. Now unfortunately

2191
01:42:29,973 --> 01:42:30,933
Speaker 3: in Cakes Care for you.

2192
01:42:31,013 --> 01:42:34,492
Speaker 2: Lost that one. This person says absolute fat passengers turn

2193
01:42:34,492 --> 01:42:36,532
Speaker 2: into five year olds having tantrums when they bought an

2194
01:42:36,572 --> 01:42:42,372
Speaker 2: aircraft behavior wise and a mentality wise. Yeah, very true. Boys.

2195
01:42:42,412 --> 01:42:45,013
Speaker 2: When I was loading, when we had a guy who

2196
01:42:45,093 --> 01:42:47,372
Speaker 2: refused to get off the plane until the police came

2197
01:42:47,572 --> 01:42:50,293
Speaker 2: and got him. The captain was trying to calm him down.

2198
01:42:50,452 --> 01:42:52,173
Speaker 2: One of our boys tried to talk to him and

2199
01:42:52,253 --> 01:42:54,972
Speaker 2: he got told to us off. The hostesses were standing

2200
01:42:55,013 --> 01:42:57,893
Speaker 2: outside the plane. Security came along and they failed. The

2201
01:42:57,973 --> 01:43:00,893
Speaker 2: police turned up and he went freely with them. That

2202
01:43:01,053 --> 01:43:02,532
Speaker 2: was before it even took off.

2203
01:43:02,612 --> 01:43:05,173
Speaker 3: There you go, keep those stories coming through on oh

2204
01:43:05,213 --> 01:43:08,692
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty worse behavior on a

2205
01:43:08,772 --> 01:43:11,732
Speaker 3: flight that you've experienced. Keen to get your stories. And

2206
01:43:11,853 --> 01:43:14,213
Speaker 3: also if you've been booted off a flight like Kathy,

2207
01:43:14,492 --> 01:43:15,372
Speaker 3: where can to hear from you?

2208
01:43:15,492 --> 01:43:18,293
Speaker 2: What happened. Yeah, I'm interesting to hear the other side

2209
01:43:18,293 --> 01:43:18,812
Speaker 2: of that story.

2210
01:43:19,173 --> 01:43:21,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk to the steward. It is

2211
01:43:21,732 --> 01:43:22,572
Speaker 3: twenty two to four.

2212
01:43:23,732 --> 01:43:26,732
Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heathen,

2213
01:43:26,853 --> 01:43:30,612
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty

2214
01:43:30,732 --> 01:43:32,093
Speaker 1: ten eighty news talk they'd be.

2215
01:43:32,412 --> 01:43:34,933
Speaker 3: It's nineteen to four and we're talking about bad behavior

2216
01:43:35,053 --> 01:43:38,533
Speaker 3: on flights and get in some great stories, Tony.

2217
01:43:38,532 --> 01:43:39,333
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

2218
01:43:40,093 --> 01:43:41,172
Speaker 24: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

2219
01:43:41,772 --> 01:43:43,213
Speaker 3: Hey back in me.

2220
01:43:43,452 --> 01:43:47,213
Speaker 24: It was between nineteen eighty and eighty five. I worked

2221
01:43:47,213 --> 01:43:49,972
Speaker 24: for a hairdresser in town. We won't mention their names.

2222
01:43:51,732 --> 01:43:54,253
Speaker 24: The husband and wife flew to Las Vegas for the

2223
01:43:54,372 --> 01:43:59,973
Speaker 24: World Hairdressing Champs. The husband became belligerent after all the

2224
01:44:00,093 --> 01:44:03,213
Speaker 24: free grog which they served in those days, and he

2225
01:44:03,333 --> 01:44:06,812
Speaker 24: got really aggressive, and I believe the purser was the

2226
01:44:06,893 --> 01:44:10,692
Speaker 24: only one allowed to restrain him. He restrained him and

2227
01:44:11,412 --> 01:44:14,772
Speaker 24: there was a bit of argiebargie. So they made an

2228
01:44:15,013 --> 01:44:20,293
Speaker 24: unscheduled stop in Hawaii, and when the plane came to

2229
01:44:20,372 --> 01:44:23,333
Speaker 24: a standstill, the stairs went down. The cops were at

2230
01:44:23,372 --> 01:44:26,572
Speaker 24: the bottom. They took them away in cuffs. She flew

2231
01:44:26,612 --> 01:44:30,492
Speaker 24: onto Las Vegas and attended the champs on her own.

2232
01:44:32,452 --> 01:44:35,412
Speaker 2: Imagine that hangover. You've drunk too much on a plane,

2233
01:44:35,452 --> 01:44:38,572
Speaker 2: you've become belligerent, you've been restrained, and then you've been

2234
01:44:38,652 --> 01:44:40,933
Speaker 2: dumped in a different location than you meant to be.

2235
01:44:41,173 --> 01:44:44,452
Speaker 2: In custody, you would wake up and like such a loser.

2236
01:44:45,372 --> 01:44:48,612
Speaker 24: We never would known about it, except we had quite

2237
01:44:48,652 --> 01:44:52,852
Speaker 24: a few stewards and stewardess's coming in for haircuts, right,

2238
01:44:52,933 --> 01:44:54,893
Speaker 24: and one of them sort of said, hey, did you

2239
01:44:54,973 --> 01:44:59,052
Speaker 24: hear about And so all of a sudden, the whole world,

2240
01:45:00,013 --> 01:45:05,772
Speaker 24: our world knew about it. So yeah, quite an entertaining story. Myself.

2241
01:45:05,853 --> 01:45:08,013
Speaker 24: I've never flown. I've never been on an airplane.

2242
01:45:08,333 --> 01:45:10,773
Speaker 2: Don't you never even not even domestically.

2243
01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:14,612
Speaker 3: Is there a fear of it, Tony?

2244
01:45:14,772 --> 01:45:15,972
Speaker 2: Or you're just not interested?

2245
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:20,652
Speaker 24: Well right now because I'm so old. It's on the

2246
01:45:20,732 --> 01:45:24,293
Speaker 24: bucket list previously. I mean, I live in the best

2247
01:45:24,372 --> 01:45:26,053
Speaker 24: country in the world. Why the hell would I want

2248
01:45:26,053 --> 01:45:26,812
Speaker 24: to go anywhere else?

2249
01:45:26,893 --> 01:45:29,572
Speaker 2: I love that good answer. I love that that answer.

2250
01:45:29,612 --> 01:45:31,732
Speaker 2: Whereabouts do you live? If you don't mind me asking, Tony,

2251
01:45:31,732 --> 01:45:34,492
Speaker 2: I'm in north code Auckland, North Code Aukland. How does

2252
01:45:34,532 --> 01:45:36,612
Speaker 2: the North Coke. Tevin, you don't need to go anywhere. Hey,

2253
01:45:36,692 --> 01:45:38,452
Speaker 2: thank you so much for Thank you so much for

2254
01:45:38,492 --> 01:45:42,333
Speaker 2: you call Tony. Appreciate that. I imagine being that. You know, So,

2255
01:45:42,492 --> 01:45:46,213
Speaker 2: you're the wife and your husband's got drunk and belligeon.

2256
01:45:46,293 --> 01:45:48,852
Speaker 2: He's gone to a fight, he's been restrained, the plane

2257
01:45:49,372 --> 01:45:52,852
Speaker 2: has been diverted, your husband's been taken off. Of course

2258
01:45:52,933 --> 01:45:55,492
Speaker 2: you've got to continue on. That's you've got to get

2259
01:45:55,492 --> 01:45:58,253
Speaker 2: out of there. But how embarrassed would you be.

2260
01:45:58,452 --> 01:46:01,173
Speaker 3: The anxiety of the husband? I'll be through the roof.

2261
01:46:02,412 --> 01:46:04,173
Speaker 2: Pete. You've got another story for us.

2262
01:46:05,853 --> 01:46:10,173
Speaker 12: Yeah, guys. I used to be head of security for

2263
01:46:10,293 --> 01:46:14,692
Speaker 12: a major international airline for fifteen years, and I could

2264
01:46:14,732 --> 01:46:18,492
Speaker 12: write several books because I had the pleasure of man

2265
01:46:18,572 --> 01:46:23,372
Speaker 12: handling people physically for writing to them saying you're no

2266
01:46:23,532 --> 01:46:30,133
Speaker 12: longer welcome, including quite several New Zealand identities and pop

2267
01:46:30,253 --> 01:46:34,173
Speaker 12: celebrities from around the world, and getting abusive phone calls

2268
01:46:34,213 --> 01:46:37,372
Speaker 12: from their so called bodyguards in the middle of the night.

2269
01:46:37,452 --> 01:46:44,452
Speaker 12: But anyway, I won't distract that personally in my personal

2270
01:46:44,532 --> 01:46:49,092
Speaker 12: observation I encountered before I worked in the airline security

2271
01:46:49,812 --> 01:46:52,372
Speaker 12: industry in the late eighties. There was a lady on

2272
01:46:52,492 --> 01:46:56,053
Speaker 12: a flight. I think she was a young backpacker on

2273
01:46:56,213 --> 01:46:59,652
Speaker 12: a flight on Air Olympia. I think it was Greek.

2274
01:47:00,492 --> 01:47:04,253
Speaker 12: She I don't know whether she'd had a romantic liaison

2275
01:47:04,452 --> 01:47:07,652
Speaker 12: in the bathroom, but she brought her smalls and draped

2276
01:47:07,732 --> 01:47:11,133
Speaker 12: them over for the head wrest next to her seat,

2277
01:47:11,893 --> 01:47:19,892
Speaker 12: which still had some sanguine stains evident to everyone. Truth beautiful,

2278
01:47:20,293 --> 01:47:21,293
Speaker 12: So thanks for that.

2279
01:47:22,093 --> 01:47:27,333
Speaker 2: There you go. Did she get did she get escorted

2280
01:47:27,372 --> 01:47:28,812
Speaker 2: off the plane or is that okay?

2281
01:47:29,173 --> 01:47:30,052
Speaker 13: I have no idea.

2282
01:47:30,173 --> 01:47:30,612
Speaker 6: I didn't.

2283
01:47:31,013 --> 01:47:33,293
Speaker 12: I was too busy taking my gas canisters off.

2284
01:47:36,652 --> 01:47:43,372
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call. Pete. If you're hanging up, yeah yeah, yeah, gruts,

2285
01:47:43,652 --> 01:47:47,932
Speaker 2: yeah on someone else's seat, that's a freedom camping. That's

2286
01:47:47,973 --> 01:47:52,492
Speaker 2: not on. That is absolutely not on. I had an

2287
01:47:52,772 --> 01:47:54,492
Speaker 2: in New Zealand flight in two thousand and nine from

2288
01:47:54,492 --> 01:47:56,652
Speaker 2: Hong Kong to Auckland where a Kiwi guy who was

2289
01:47:56,732 --> 01:47:59,133
Speaker 2: on transit got very drunk before getting on the plane.

2290
01:48:00,173 --> 01:48:02,732
Speaker 2: There's a common denominator and all these stories where he

2291
01:48:02,772 --> 01:48:05,412
Speaker 2: continued to drink more than he started annoying a girl.

2292
01:48:05,732 --> 01:48:08,133
Speaker 2: After a few requests to stop his behavior, staff took

2293
01:48:08,213 --> 01:48:09,692
Speaker 2: him down the back of the plane where he was

2294
01:48:09,772 --> 01:48:12,692
Speaker 2: strapped down for the right home. Police took him off

2295
01:48:12,732 --> 01:48:14,852
Speaker 2: the plane in Auckland and he was charged. He had

2296
01:48:14,853 --> 01:48:17,173
Speaker 2: a problem getting back to Christs that day, as in

2297
01:48:17,293 --> 01:48:20,852
Speaker 2: New Zealand refused him from flying with them getting strapped

2298
01:48:20,933 --> 01:48:21,972
Speaker 2: up at the back of the plane.

2299
01:48:22,772 --> 01:48:24,892
Speaker 3: So have they got specific straps or as you see

2300
01:48:24,893 --> 01:48:26,932
Speaker 3: in the movies, they just get the seat belt straps

2301
01:48:26,933 --> 01:48:29,293
Speaker 3: and they just kind of tie you up as bits

2302
01:48:29,412 --> 01:48:32,452
Speaker 3: they can until they can get on the ground. Yeah,

2303
01:48:32,612 --> 01:48:35,013
Speaker 3: if you're in the game, how do you restrain them?

2304
01:48:35,053 --> 01:48:37,452
Speaker 3: Have you got like handcuffs of the plane somewhere that

2305
01:48:37,532 --> 01:48:39,492
Speaker 3: you can put on an unruly passenger?

2306
01:48:39,732 --> 01:48:39,892
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2307
01:48:40,333 --> 01:48:43,093
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know you have to be. Yeah,

2308
01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:47,333
Speaker 2: some pretty strong people out there, and not all aircrew,

2309
01:48:47,893 --> 01:48:52,132
Speaker 2: are you know buff? Yeah, So you know who restrains

2310
01:48:52,173 --> 01:48:53,652
Speaker 2: them or do you get I mean we've had a

2311
01:48:53,692 --> 01:48:58,253
Speaker 2: few call smily from people that are restrained. A lot

2312
01:48:58,293 --> 01:49:00,852
Speaker 2: of people in his time when he was flying, he

2313
01:49:01,293 --> 01:49:06,652
Speaker 2: was restraining them by sitting on them. Jennifer, Hi, Hello,

2314
01:49:06,853 --> 01:49:08,972
Speaker 2: you've experienced some unruly behavior on planes?

2315
01:49:09,812 --> 01:49:12,852
Speaker 25: Well, one was unruly one with somebody that was usual

2316
01:49:12,893 --> 01:49:16,093
Speaker 25: flying and didn't know what to do. The unruly one was.

2317
01:49:16,213 --> 01:49:18,412
Speaker 25: I was was back in the seventies when things were

2318
01:49:18,452 --> 01:49:22,053
Speaker 25: not taken as seriously as they are now. And I

2319
01:49:22,213 --> 01:49:24,892
Speaker 25: was in the by the window and the person next

2320
01:49:24,973 --> 01:49:27,612
Speaker 25: to me was an old lady and everybody was putting

2321
01:49:27,652 --> 01:49:30,213
Speaker 25: their seat thoughts on when she suddenly surged up into

2322
01:49:30,253 --> 01:49:32,492
Speaker 25: the aisle and yelled at the top top of her voice,

2323
01:49:32,772 --> 01:49:36,933
Speaker 25: this is that that she was going. Jad Tate was

2324
01:49:37,013 --> 01:49:40,732
Speaker 25: taking over the plane and I said to her, you'd

2325
01:49:40,772 --> 01:49:42,612
Speaker 25: probably have been and it was a hush it which

2326
01:49:42,692 --> 01:49:44,973
Speaker 25: yielded it was a hijack. And I said, if this

2327
01:49:45,133 --> 01:49:46,693
Speaker 25: was a mirror for somebody would probably.

2328
01:49:46,412 --> 01:49:46,812
Speaker 8: Have shot you.

2329
01:49:46,933 --> 01:49:50,732
Speaker 2: At this point, it wasn't a hijack. It was it

2330
01:49:50,893 --> 01:49:52,893
Speaker 2: was was she doing? What a joke? Hijack? What was

2331
01:49:52,933 --> 01:49:53,213
Speaker 2: she doing?

2332
01:49:53,412 --> 01:49:54,692
Speaker 25: She'd always wanted to do this.

2333
01:49:57,772 --> 01:49:58,532
Speaker 2: On your bucket list?

2334
01:49:59,732 --> 01:49:59,932
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2335
01:50:00,093 --> 01:50:02,173
Speaker 25: Rather odd, But if I say, in those days, people

2336
01:50:02,173 --> 01:50:04,812
Speaker 25: wouldn't make such a fuss about someone doing something like that.

2337
01:50:05,173 --> 01:50:10,372
Speaker 25: So so nobody complained that the other one was not released.

2338
01:50:10,452 --> 01:50:14,412
Speaker 25: It was understanding. I was going back down to Varsity

2339
01:50:14,532 --> 01:50:17,372
Speaker 25: on the plane and this girl of about sixteen was

2340
01:50:17,452 --> 01:50:19,812
Speaker 25: in the seat next to me, and she said, I've

2341
01:50:19,893 --> 01:50:22,412
Speaker 25: never flown before but I'm quite confident. I'm not at

2342
01:50:22,452 --> 01:50:25,293
Speaker 25: all worried. Anyway, We're just about to take off, and

2343
01:50:25,372 --> 01:50:28,213
Speaker 25: she suddenly got down and got under her seat, and

2344
01:50:28,293 --> 01:50:30,173
Speaker 25: I said, what earth are you doing? She said, I'm

2345
01:50:30,213 --> 01:50:33,853
Speaker 25: just getting my parachute. I said, they don't issue parachutes

2346
01:50:33,973 --> 01:50:36,412
Speaker 25: to passengers. That's when she got worried.

2347
01:50:40,692 --> 01:50:42,732
Speaker 3: They are great stories, thank you very much.

2348
01:50:42,893 --> 01:50:46,052
Speaker 2: Imagine if they did try and run parachutes on a plane,

2349
01:50:46,093 --> 01:50:48,892
Speaker 2: considering how long it takes for people to disembark, if

2350
01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:50,692
Speaker 2: you're going down, and everyone had to get their parachute

2351
01:50:50,692 --> 01:50:51,692
Speaker 2: out and try and get out the door.

2352
01:50:52,013 --> 01:50:52,412
Speaker 3: Good luck.

2353
01:50:52,853 --> 01:50:55,412
Speaker 2: I can't see that one working. I didn't. Yeah, we'll

2354
01:50:55,452 --> 01:50:56,972
Speaker 2: go one more, Chris, get a Chris.

2355
01:50:58,812 --> 01:51:01,933
Speaker 12: The base out and very trivial, I know it is,

2356
01:51:02,532 --> 01:51:04,692
Speaker 12: but I was on a flight from the christ Church

2357
01:51:05,053 --> 01:51:08,893
Speaker 12: and you know, in the middle seat, you know, you

2358
01:51:09,053 --> 01:51:12,293
Speaker 12: look at cramped. It's sort of an unwritten rule that

2359
01:51:12,452 --> 01:51:16,692
Speaker 12: you get both elbows, you know, on the homo sides

2360
01:51:16,772 --> 01:51:19,813
Speaker 12: of the whether those things are in between.

2361
01:51:19,572 --> 01:51:23,612
Speaker 3: You yep, the armories you're talking about, Yeah, the armory.

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01:51:24,253 --> 01:51:24,452
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:51:25,372 --> 01:51:25,572
Speaker 19: Yeah.

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01:51:25,652 --> 01:51:29,452
Speaker 12: So about quart of the way through flight, I felt

2365
01:51:30,173 --> 01:51:33,133
Speaker 12: around picking up a magazine or something like that, and

2366
01:51:33,213 --> 01:51:36,492
Speaker 12: then both of these ladies that I didn't know took

2367
01:51:36,612 --> 01:51:39,412
Speaker 12: them off me on each side, and then I was

2368
01:51:39,492 --> 01:51:44,053
Speaker 12: stuck there, you know, with my shoulders clenched inwards, you know,

2369
01:51:44,213 --> 01:51:46,333
Speaker 12: like sort of like a pencil for the rest of

2370
01:51:46,412 --> 01:51:48,572
Speaker 12: the flights. Not wanting to be rude, I was like,

2371
01:51:49,173 --> 01:51:52,173
Speaker 12: that's poor etiquette from these two Shielers. But I don't

2372
01:51:52,213 --> 01:51:54,172
Speaker 12: want to be rude because I don't want the coppers

2373
01:51:54,253 --> 01:51:58,053
Speaker 12: coming for me. Thinking what I'm thinking to say, I

2374
01:51:58,173 --> 01:51:59,692
Speaker 12: had absolutely self control.

2375
01:51:59,933 --> 01:52:01,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, well good on you. But you've got to establish

2376
01:52:01,772 --> 01:52:03,893
Speaker 3: your real estate real fast. When you sit down, you

2377
01:52:04,013 --> 01:52:06,093
Speaker 3: pick your arm rest that you need gress, and you

2378
01:52:06,732 --> 01:52:09,532
Speaker 3: you claim that real estate for everything you got.

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01:52:09,572 --> 01:52:10,253
Speaker 2: Well, I think the roof.

2380
01:52:10,333 --> 01:52:11,133
Speaker 3: Can you give up both?

2381
01:52:11,492 --> 01:52:12,933
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is a I don't know

2382
01:52:12,973 --> 01:52:15,452
Speaker 2: if there's a set rule that the airline's told, but

2383
01:52:15,612 --> 01:52:18,013
Speaker 2: I believe and I would. I would fight for my

2384
01:52:18,173 --> 01:52:20,972
Speaker 2: territory to the point of getting the plane turned around.

2385
01:52:21,692 --> 01:52:24,053
Speaker 2: If you're in the middle seat, you get your what

2386
01:52:24,253 --> 01:52:26,773
Speaker 2: you want off both armrests.

2387
01:52:26,492 --> 01:52:27,732
Speaker 3: Or can you get both of them so you're in

2388
01:52:27,732 --> 01:52:29,612
Speaker 3: the middle, and then the one on the left gets

2389
01:52:29,692 --> 01:52:31,972
Speaker 3: the left one towards the window. And the other person

2390
01:52:32,013 --> 01:52:32,732
Speaker 3: gets the oil one.

2391
01:52:32,893 --> 01:52:34,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're in the middle, you get both armrests.

2392
01:52:36,093 --> 01:52:37,893
Speaker 3: It does sound fear, I'm just trying to think in

2393
01:52:37,973 --> 01:52:39,093
Speaker 3: their official you don't.

2394
01:52:39,213 --> 01:52:41,532
Speaker 2: You don't need to be a dick about it. Yeah,

2395
01:52:41,692 --> 01:52:44,093
Speaker 2: but your arms at the back there because you're in

2396
01:52:44,133 --> 01:52:46,973
Speaker 2: the middle. Otherwise you've got you don't have nearly as

2397
01:52:47,053 --> 01:52:50,532
Speaker 2: much sort of room to move. Yeah, you know you're

2398
01:52:50,732 --> 01:52:53,852
Speaker 2: you're you're sting to be you know you're stuck in there.

2399
01:52:54,173 --> 01:52:55,932
Speaker 3: So what would you do if you're in Chris's situation?

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01:52:55,973 --> 01:52:58,213
Speaker 3: Would you just give the nice weed tap, just the

2401
01:52:58,333 --> 01:53:01,492
Speaker 3: slow push off your arm wrest, start.

2402
01:53:01,333 --> 01:53:03,692
Speaker 2: With a full chicken wings bang out to the side.

2403
01:53:04,013 --> 01:53:07,053
Speaker 3: You just take it straight to the extreme And sorry, ladies.

2404
01:53:06,853 --> 01:53:11,213
Speaker 2: I open with elbows. Oh I think you I think

2405
01:53:11,372 --> 01:53:13,492
Speaker 2: I mean? Am I wrong? One hundred eighty ten eighty

2406
01:53:13,572 --> 01:53:15,173
Speaker 2: nine two nine two? I'm pretty sure that.

2407
01:53:15,652 --> 01:53:15,892
Speaker 8: I mean.

2408
01:53:15,933 --> 01:53:17,492
Speaker 2: I've always taken that as the rule that if in

2409
01:53:17,532 --> 01:53:19,452
Speaker 2: you're in the middle, you get both armories. Yeah, tell

2410
01:53:19,492 --> 01:53:22,492
Speaker 2: us what you think it is. I could be wrong.

2411
01:53:22,772 --> 01:53:25,213
Speaker 3: Nine minutes to four oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

2412
01:53:25,333 --> 01:53:26,213
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

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01:53:27,213 --> 01:53:30,612
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2414
01:53:30,973 --> 01:53:34,732
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

2415
01:53:34,772 --> 01:53:37,173
Speaker 1: talks EDB, news talk ZEDB.

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01:53:37,452 --> 01:53:39,572
Speaker 3: Just quickly a bunch of people who work in the

2417
01:53:39,612 --> 01:53:40,333
Speaker 3: industry of teachs.

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01:53:40,333 --> 01:53:40,492
Speaker 12: Three.

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01:53:40,572 --> 01:53:43,532
Speaker 3: Yes, they do have handcuffs and cable ties on boards.

2420
01:53:43,772 --> 01:53:48,253
Speaker 3: Yeah goodness, yeah absolutely yeah. Uh Peter, you used to

2421
01:53:48,333 --> 01:53:48,932
Speaker 3: be Kevin crew.

2422
01:53:50,053 --> 01:53:53,213
Speaker 9: Yeah no, I was Flate teck ah And what was

2423
01:53:53,372 --> 01:53:57,093
Speaker 9: the situation training check? One of the last whites out

2424
01:53:57,133 --> 01:54:00,093
Speaker 9: of Willings on the DCA flight check just across the

2425
01:54:00,173 --> 01:54:04,372
Speaker 9: ditch James to Sydney, and we had a lady who

2426
01:54:04,532 --> 01:54:07,333
Speaker 9: was drunk a skunk and running off with her toy

2427
01:54:07,412 --> 01:54:10,452
Speaker 9: boy who was three feets ahead of hers, and he

2428
01:54:10,692 --> 01:54:13,093
Speaker 9: was egging her on and she was just getting more

2429
01:54:13,133 --> 01:54:17,213
Speaker 9: and more wound up. And in the end she kicked

2430
01:54:17,253 --> 01:54:19,973
Speaker 9: one of the stewards in the ball and put him

2431
01:54:20,133 --> 01:54:27,812
Speaker 9: out and they wave waved that he got up, and

2432
01:54:27,933 --> 01:54:30,333
Speaker 9: then they called the captain. He was a check captain

2433
01:54:30,772 --> 01:54:33,053
Speaker 9: and the rest of us were laughing at heads off.

2434
01:54:33,093 --> 01:54:35,932
Speaker 9: Actually put the captain and I said, don't forget your hat,

2435
01:54:36,173 --> 01:54:38,493
Speaker 9: don't forget your book of rules, and take a baton

2436
01:54:38,533 --> 01:54:40,852
Speaker 9: with her and hit it between the eyes and wake her.

2437
01:54:40,812 --> 01:54:43,173
Speaker 13: Up, and he said, I couldn't do that.

2438
01:54:43,772 --> 01:54:44,253
Speaker 4: I'm joking.

2439
01:54:44,693 --> 01:54:47,493
Speaker 9: Anyway, he went down and he got kicked in the

2440
01:54:47,533 --> 01:54:54,333
Speaker 9: balls as well, and he went down. Male stewards jumped

2441
01:54:54,333 --> 01:54:57,253
Speaker 9: on told him and cuffed him. I cussed her and

2442
01:54:57,893 --> 01:55:01,253
Speaker 9: put her in her feet way down the back. The

2443
01:55:01,333 --> 01:55:06,733
Speaker 9: cops got on and the cops dragged her off, and

2444
01:55:06,973 --> 01:55:10,772
Speaker 9: first of all, shot had a girl down next to her,

2445
01:55:11,013 --> 01:55:13,613
Speaker 9: a female cop, and the rest of them were heavy,

2446
01:55:14,133 --> 01:55:20,052
Speaker 9: big guys, I mean big, big guys, cuffy. They said

2447
01:55:20,093 --> 01:55:23,133
Speaker 9: to her, you're going to behave of course, and then

2448
01:55:23,213 --> 01:55:25,613
Speaker 9: this girl sat down beside her. She still was cuffed

2449
01:55:25,933 --> 01:55:30,373
Speaker 9: in front bow. Anyway, she was nice as high and

2450
01:55:30,453 --> 01:55:32,693
Speaker 9: all the rest of it. And then as soon as

2451
01:55:33,053 --> 01:55:36,173
Speaker 9: they started moving all the passengers off, she turned to

2452
01:55:36,253 --> 01:55:39,613
Speaker 9: the cops sitting next to us and put the cuffs

2453
01:55:39,693 --> 01:55:42,573
Speaker 9: across the side of the chart of her cheek and

2454
01:55:42,693 --> 01:55:46,573
Speaker 9: opened it up right to the bone. Wow, that was

2455
01:55:46,693 --> 01:55:50,173
Speaker 9: New Wales, please, because they picked her up about six

2456
01:55:50,253 --> 01:55:52,413
Speaker 9: feet in the air and threw her onto the deck.

2457
01:55:53,413 --> 01:55:56,373
Speaker 9: All the pasteonts were going on this stage, and they

2458
01:55:57,173 --> 01:56:00,253
Speaker 9: took her off the back stairs on the DC eight

2459
01:56:00,693 --> 01:56:03,373
Speaker 9: and they grabbed it by the legs and dragged it

2460
01:56:03,453 --> 01:56:04,172
Speaker 9: down the stairs.

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01:56:04,293 --> 01:56:05,013
Speaker 3: I bet they did.

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01:56:05,133 --> 01:56:07,852
Speaker 2: I mean that is uninged. Well, that's that's quite a story. Yeah,

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01:56:08,573 --> 01:56:10,493
Speaker 2: that's all from us. The fabulous hit The Doup of

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01:56:10,533 --> 01:56:13,772
Speaker 2: c Ellen is up after news until tomorrow.

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01:56:13,812 --> 01:56:14,052
Speaker 20: Irvo.

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01:56:14,173 --> 01:56:16,053
Speaker 2: Wherever you are, whatever you're doing for the rest of

2467
01:56:16,093 --> 01:56:17,973
Speaker 2: the day, give them a taste of Kiwi. Thanks for

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01:56:18,053 --> 01:56:21,373
Speaker 2: listening to you, great New Zealanders, and don't tell your mama.

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01:56:28,493 --> 01:56:31,413
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