1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Well. Oral hearings for the Treaty Principal's Bill get underway today, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: marking the start of eighty hours worth of hearings over 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: the course of a month. The total number of online 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: submissions received isn't known yet as processing continues. Author of 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: the bill and AT Party leader David Seymour will be 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: the first to give his submission later this morning. A 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: total of fifty oral submissions will be heard on day one. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Lady Turditi Moxon is the managing director of tair Kahual 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Health and we'll be speaking at Parliament later this morning. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: And she joins me, now, a very good morning to. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: You, very good morning to you too. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Look, thanks so much for getting up early in joining us. 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: What are you expecting today? How are you expecting things 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: to go? 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: Well? I think it should go pretty smoothly. I think 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: they've got a lot to do. But our submission is 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: basically we're saying what what we believe needs to happen 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: in terms of this bill and the fact that we 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: reject it, both reject and oppose. 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: It's been a heck of a process, hasn't How have 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: you found the process to get to this point? 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Well, it has been a heck of a process, and 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: the worst of it is there's a waste of time 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: simply because labor are sorry national and and you said 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: the first have both said that they won't they weren't, 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: they weren't supported beyond this process. How ridiculous is that? 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: Why would you put us through that process? Is that 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: if you have no intention of supporting it going forward. 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: So you know, we're pleased about that, don't get me wrong, 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: but I'm sure we could be spending a lot of that. 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: All that money and all that time and resource aren't 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: better things? 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: Okay, well, there's a fair point. I think you're making 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: a good point. So what is the point and you 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: making a submission today with a bill that's going nowhere. 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Well, simply because we must be heard. And you'll find 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: that the other people behind me, or forty nine other 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: people behind me will feel the same way. And you know, 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: you've got to remember too that we had the largest 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: protests in the country in terms of the Treaty Principles bill, 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: and so you know, forty two thousand people got out 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: and spoke to their feet. So you know, I actually 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: think that there. 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: Is it's important to be able to say to them 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: and all of those yet to come in our future 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: that we try to do something. 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Do you think it, Well, look, it's a fair point, 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people would love to 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: be there listening to what's going on, or maybe not. 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think there was widely a 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: misinterpretation of what the treaty Principal's Bill was wanting to achieve. 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Do you think it was widely misunderstood by the majority 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: of people? 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think for a lot number of people who 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: do not understand what the treaty means and have nounderstanding 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: of what history history of this country is or even 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: the plight of Mardi in our country, I would say, very, 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: very categorically, there's a lot of people who have put 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: in submissions, will have submitted have a misunderstanding of what 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: it means. 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I know you're going to be speaking very early this morning. 62 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I think you're on at eight thirty this morning, aren't you. 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: That's correct? 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Yes, Can you give us a little bit of a 65 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: taster about what you'll be saying. 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, definitely, I'll be saying that we rejected and opposed 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: the at the and also I think that that it 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: should be rejected and opposed by the Select Committee. But 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: more over than that than not, I really think that 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: that you know that this is a breach of the 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: three too white tonguey and and it will and it 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: will be a breach forever no matter how they try 73 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: to reinterpret the principles and pretty basically take over from 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: the courts. You know, there's a difference between the courts 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: interpreting this, you know, the principles from the acts. You know, 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: government react ax and the court's interpret the acts and 77 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: the police enforce the acts. So here we are we've 78 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: got a government trying to do both. 79 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Lady Turdyt Moxham, thank you so much for your time 80 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: and all the very best this morning. And it's an 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: early start your submission at eight thirty this morning. Thanks 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: for your time. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks it be from five am weekdays, 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.