1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,933 Speaker 1: from News Talks AB. 3 00:00:13,253 --> 00:00:15,173 Speaker 2: And it is time to talk money. And joining me 4 00:00:15,213 --> 00:00:18,253 Speaker 2: now is Ed McKnight from Opie's Partners. And there might 5 00:00:18,253 --> 00:00:21,133 Speaker 2: be some good news on the horinas. On the horizon 6 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:22,653 Speaker 2: for homeowner's Ed. 7 00:00:23,253 --> 00:00:26,413 Speaker 3: There is, and it's all to do with the income 8 00:00:26,453 --> 00:00:29,973 Speaker 3: side of your mortgage application. And the impact of it 9 00:00:30,013 --> 00:00:32,933 Speaker 3: is that first home buyers, investors, and anybody looking to 10 00:00:32,973 --> 00:00:35,573 Speaker 3: take out a lot at a loan might find it 11 00:00:35,733 --> 00:00:39,533 Speaker 3: slightly easier. And it's not even just on the horizon, 12 00:00:39,853 --> 00:00:43,293 Speaker 3: it's already happened. So for example, we've just had National's 13 00:00:43,333 --> 00:00:47,373 Speaker 3: tax cuts come in and that gives some people twenty 14 00:00:47,413 --> 00:00:50,573 Speaker 3: dollars a week extra in their pocket. Well, if both 15 00:00:50,613 --> 00:00:53,013 Speaker 3: you and your partner get that twenty dollars a week 16 00:00:53,173 --> 00:00:55,813 Speaker 3: and you're a first home buyer, that could help your 17 00:00:55,813 --> 00:01:00,173 Speaker 3: mortgage application to the tune of about twenty two thousand dollars. 18 00:01:00,533 --> 00:01:03,493 Speaker 3: So if you're a bit tight on income that's what's 19 00:01:03,613 --> 00:01:06,053 Speaker 3: stopping the bank from giving you a mortgage, might help 20 00:01:06,053 --> 00:01:08,493 Speaker 3: you out a little bit there For invests slightly more, 21 00:01:08,773 --> 00:01:10,813 Speaker 3: that same twenty dollars a week each for a couple 22 00:01:10,853 --> 00:01:13,773 Speaker 3: that could give you an extra thirty two thousand dollars. 23 00:01:14,453 --> 00:01:17,373 Speaker 2: So is there any other criteria around getting a mortgage 24 00:01:17,453 --> 00:01:18,333 Speaker 2: changing at the moment. 25 00:01:19,253 --> 00:01:21,093 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because, of course, 26 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:23,733 Speaker 3: there are two sides to a mortgage application. You've got 27 00:01:23,773 --> 00:01:26,333 Speaker 3: to have enough deposit and you've got to have enough income, 28 00:01:26,373 --> 00:01:29,693 Speaker 3: and the tax can't certainly help the income side. On 29 00:01:29,733 --> 00:01:32,773 Speaker 3: the deposit side, though, the Reserve Bank has changed some 30 00:01:32,893 --> 00:01:35,653 Speaker 3: of the rules. I think it was later earlier this month, 31 00:01:35,733 --> 00:01:38,413 Speaker 3: maybe the month before, that just went that first time 32 00:01:38,493 --> 00:01:40,733 Speaker 3: buyers a few more of them will be able to 33 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:44,573 Speaker 3: get lower deposits, So that means that it's a bit 34 00:01:44,653 --> 00:01:46,653 Speaker 3: more likely that they'll be able to get a mortgage 35 00:01:46,693 --> 00:01:49,853 Speaker 3: with a ten percent deposit. One other change that I 36 00:01:49,853 --> 00:01:52,773 Speaker 3: want to highlight that literally happens this week is that 37 00:01:52,813 --> 00:01:56,053 Speaker 3: when you put in your mortgage application, the bank's not 38 00:01:56,293 --> 00:01:58,733 Speaker 3: going to see if you can afford it based on 39 00:01:58,773 --> 00:02:00,853 Speaker 3: the interest rate you're actually going to pay, which might 40 00:02:00,893 --> 00:02:04,253 Speaker 3: be call it six and a half percent. Up until recently, 41 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:08,573 Speaker 3: they've been testing your mortgage application at nine percent. Well 42 00:02:08,653 --> 00:02:10,853 Speaker 3: that's all changed this week. It's come down by a 43 00:02:10,933 --> 00:02:13,493 Speaker 3: little bit, and the impact is that for a first 44 00:02:13,493 --> 00:02:16,813 Speaker 3: home buyer, if you could borrow five hundred k before, 45 00:02:17,053 --> 00:02:18,733 Speaker 3: you're now going to be able to afford an extra 46 00:02:18,773 --> 00:02:20,853 Speaker 3: eleven k. And for an investor, it's about in an 47 00:02:20,973 --> 00:02:22,413 Speaker 3: extra eighteen grand. 48 00:02:22,933 --> 00:02:26,293 Speaker 2: So ed, why were they calculating that on such a 49 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:27,293 Speaker 2: high rate to begin with? 50 00:02:28,413 --> 00:02:30,773 Speaker 3: Well, the banks want to make sure that even if 51 00:02:30,893 --> 00:02:34,173 Speaker 3: interest rates go up, that you can still afford that mortgage, 52 00:02:34,213 --> 00:02:37,853 Speaker 3: and that's really important. We've seen why that's so important recently. 53 00:02:38,093 --> 00:02:40,453 Speaker 3: You know, back when interest rates were two point two 54 00:02:40,573 --> 00:02:43,653 Speaker 3: two point three percent, the banks we're using about a 55 00:02:43,733 --> 00:02:46,413 Speaker 3: six percent what we call a test rate, and that's 56 00:02:46,453 --> 00:02:48,533 Speaker 3: just to make sure that as interest rates go up 57 00:02:48,533 --> 00:02:51,693 Speaker 3: and they have recently, that you'd still be able to 58 00:02:52,093 --> 00:02:54,973 Speaker 3: make those mortgage payments and that you wouldn't have to 59 00:02:54,973 --> 00:02:56,853 Speaker 3: go to mortgage g sales. So it's very important that 60 00:02:56,893 --> 00:02:59,253 Speaker 3: the banks do this. But now that they're seeing those 61 00:02:59,293 --> 00:03:02,093 Speaker 3: interest rates come down, they're starting to say, hey, we 62 00:03:02,133 --> 00:03:03,573 Speaker 3: can use a lower test rate. 63 00:03:04,413 --> 00:03:08,493 Speaker 2: Have I gone far enough with these changes, do you think? Well? 64 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:11,813 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing some more changes. I think 65 00:03:11,813 --> 00:03:14,813 Speaker 3: we'd all like to see those test rates even lower. 66 00:03:15,093 --> 00:03:17,213 Speaker 3: But the banks need to be cautious and it's important 67 00:03:17,253 --> 00:03:19,573 Speaker 3: that they are. There are some other changes coming on 68 00:03:19,573 --> 00:03:22,733 Speaker 3: the horizon, the Triple CFA. That's the law that do 69 00:03:22,733 --> 00:03:25,533 Speaker 3: you remember back on the day for a couple of 70 00:03:25,573 --> 00:03:28,493 Speaker 3: years ago, we had all of these articles about if 71 00:03:28,493 --> 00:03:30,773 Speaker 3: you spent too much on coffee or you spent too 72 00:03:30,853 --> 00:03:31,893 Speaker 3: much on Uber each. 73 00:03:31,853 --> 00:03:34,013 Speaker 2: I've got too many streaming services? 74 00:03:34,253 --> 00:03:36,773 Speaker 3: Ed, Oh, do you know what? I was applied for 75 00:03:36,973 --> 00:03:40,493 Speaker 3: wokts the other day for Chesca, and the walk breaker 76 00:03:40,573 --> 00:03:42,933 Speaker 3: comes back to me and says, can you please explain 77 00:03:43,053 --> 00:03:46,373 Speaker 3: the nature of these expenses? And one of them was Netflix, 78 00:03:46,453 --> 00:03:47,893 Speaker 3: And I said, I'm not sure what you want me 79 00:03:48,053 --> 00:03:53,373 Speaker 3: to explain, pretty straightforward, but we are sex of changes 80 00:03:53,493 --> 00:03:56,533 Speaker 3: already come and west Pax loosen some of the criteria 81 00:03:56,653 --> 00:03:59,533 Speaker 3: specifically for investors. That means an investor might be able 82 00:03:59,533 --> 00:04:02,573 Speaker 3: to borrow extra eighty thousand dollars. I'm looking forward to 83 00:04:02,573 --> 00:04:05,493 Speaker 3: seeing some changes once the law is actually passed, or 84 00:04:05,533 --> 00:04:08,133 Speaker 3: the updated laws actually passed. It's going to be really 85 00:04:08,133 --> 00:04:10,013 Speaker 3: good for the first time buyas Ed. 86 00:04:10,093 --> 00:04:12,293 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your thoughts this morning. Appreciate it. 87 00:04:12,733 --> 00:04:13,413 Speaker 3: Thanks Francis. 88 00:04:14,853 --> 00:04:17,973 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 89 00:04:18,053 --> 00:04:20,893 Speaker 1: to news talks. ED b from nine am Saturday, or 90 00:04:20,933 --> 00:04:22,853 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio