WEBVTT - Leighton Smith Podcast #274 - March 5th 2025 - James Roguski 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:12.693 You're listening to a podcast from News Talks B. Follow 0:00:12.773 --> 0:00:16.173 this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:16.693 --> 0:00:19.733 It's time for all the attitude, all the opinion, all 0:00:19.773 --> 0:00:24.813 the information, all the debate of the now, the Layton 0:00:24.933 --> 0:00:27.653 Smith Podcast powered by News Talks ed B. 0:00:28.173 --> 0:00:31.373 Welcome to podcast two hundred and seventy four for March five, 0:00:31.493 --> 0:00:36.373 twenty twenty five. Ever heard of James Roguski? Maybe yes, 0:00:36.573 --> 0:00:40.213 maybe no? Now. I spoke with James Rogowski earlier in 0:00:40.253 --> 0:00:44.333 the year. He is an interesting character fighting a battle 0:00:44.493 --> 0:00:49.293 that he's passionate about. And more on Rogowski shortly. First, 0:00:49.773 --> 0:00:52.733 there is the story that's spoken this morning of Richard 0:00:52.773 --> 0:00:56.253 Prebble's resignation from the White Tangi Tribunal. I didn't even 0:00:56.293 --> 0:00:58.773 know that he was on the tribunal. He's only been 0:00:58.813 --> 0:01:02.773 there about, i'm told, four months. Nevertheless, having read the 0:01:02.893 --> 0:01:06.813 letter of resignation, I have to say, Richard Prebble has 0:01:06.893 --> 0:01:10.293 not let us down. It is a brilliant letter. It 0:01:10.413 --> 0:01:14.133 tells the truth about the situation, and if it doesn't 0:01:14.133 --> 0:01:17.053 make politicians in this country pull their socks up and 0:01:17.173 --> 0:01:22.173 actually get some guts, then this country may well be 0:01:22.493 --> 0:01:26.573 in an attempted to say terminal trouble, but certainly serious 0:01:26.613 --> 0:01:30.733 trouble if it's not already now. Leaving that aside, it'll 0:01:30.773 --> 0:01:34.293 be everywhere for the next few weeks, I would imagine, 0:01:34.453 --> 0:01:37.893 and it will cause some disruption, But let's deal with 0:01:37.933 --> 0:01:41.253 the small matter of the rest of the world. We 0:01:41.293 --> 0:01:44.093 went to bed last night with one story, we woke 0:01:44.173 --> 0:01:48.693 to another, all together different version of the lay of 0:01:48.733 --> 0:01:52.733 the land. Now, in the period since the oval office 0:01:52.973 --> 0:01:57.173 verbal battle that ended in total chaos, we've had commentary 0:01:57.213 --> 0:02:00.973 from all sundry, everybody, all over the world. Everybody has 0:02:01.373 --> 0:02:04.173 how to say about it. There have been arguments I've 0:02:04.173 --> 0:02:07.733 had to extract myself from some because people have different opinions, 0:02:08.013 --> 0:02:12.453 different versions, and different interpretations of what's happened, mostly based 0:02:12.533 --> 0:02:14.813 on their understanding of what this is all about in 0:02:14.813 --> 0:02:17.773 the first place, and variations on the theme it has 0:02:17.813 --> 0:02:21.213 become once again a social crisis. Very good friend and 0:02:21.253 --> 0:02:23.493 I agreed that we would not talk about it anymore 0:02:23.973 --> 0:02:27.133 on the basis that we couldn't come to we couldn't 0:02:27.173 --> 0:02:30.453 come to a mutual anything. My argument is and always 0:02:30.453 --> 0:02:33.173 has been that when there is a crisis like this, 0:02:33.653 --> 0:02:37.253 you cannot rush to judgment. My opinion is it always 0:02:37.253 --> 0:02:39.493 has been for as long as I can remember, is 0:02:39.533 --> 0:02:42.333 that when there is a crisis of this nature, and 0:02:42.373 --> 0:02:44.173 this is probably the worst one we've had for a 0:02:44.213 --> 0:02:46.973 long long time. But when there's the crisis of this nature, 0:02:47.493 --> 0:02:52.813 you cannot garner all the information at once. You have 0:02:52.933 --> 0:02:55.253 to wait for it to be revealed. You have to 0:02:55.293 --> 0:02:59.453 get different opinions. Doesn't matter what you thought before. Unless 0:02:59.493 --> 0:03:02.933 you're in receipt of all the detail, you can't really 0:03:03.053 --> 0:03:05.973 make a decision about how you feel. Oh, you could 0:03:06.013 --> 0:03:09.693 arrive at one, but you might be deceiving yourself. And 0:03:09.813 --> 0:03:12.973 let's not forget it's where you get your information from 0:03:13.373 --> 0:03:16.853 that is vitally important. Let me give you some examples 0:03:16.893 --> 0:03:21.573 of what's been published in the last few days. Europe 0:03:21.693 --> 0:03:26.213 is falling. Martin Armstrong warns, that's why they need war 0:03:26.493 --> 0:03:30.333 with Russia. Zelensky goes to town. If the President of 0:03:30.453 --> 0:03:33.533 Ukraine Zelensky were on my Christmas list, I think I 0:03:33.613 --> 0:03:36.493 might give him a copy of Through Sidade's History of 0:03:36.573 --> 0:03:43.293 the Peloponnesian War, Zelensky has finally and fatally misstepped. Seldom 0:03:43.333 --> 0:03:45.093 in modern times has the fate of a whole nation 0:03:45.253 --> 0:03:48.653 been so dependent on a single meeting and on a 0:03:48.693 --> 0:03:52.613 single relationship. When Zelensky entered the Oval Office on Friday, 0:03:52.693 --> 0:03:56.013 he had one job to repair a deep and catastrophic 0:03:56.093 --> 0:04:00.053 rift between him and Donald Trump, who the previous week 0:04:00.133 --> 0:04:03.813 had called the Ukrainian president a dictator. Zelensky held the 0:04:03.853 --> 0:04:07.573 future of US support for his country's defense against Russia 0:04:07.973 --> 0:04:12.813 in his hands. Cutting Zelensky down to size, President Trump 0:04:12.893 --> 0:04:16.533 and Vice President Vance's combative meeting with the Zelensky today 0:04:17.093 --> 0:04:20.013 was an important first step in preparing the American people 0:04:20.053 --> 0:04:22.733 for peace. It's a different sort of a different sort 0:04:22.733 --> 0:04:27.053 of article. It has a perspective Trump, Vance and the 0:04:27.133 --> 0:04:30.733 New World Order by Stephen Sukup. We had Stephen Sukop 0:04:30.773 --> 0:04:33.093 on the podcast a couple of years back on his 0:04:33.213 --> 0:04:38.533 book on Wokeism, and he was very good. This opening paragraph, 0:04:38.813 --> 0:04:41.413 least part of it, I think is essential. Quoting this 0:04:41.493 --> 0:04:45.653 past week, the venerable A. Mutton Wolf, chief economics commentator 0:04:45.693 --> 0:04:48.933 for The Financial Times, used his column to declare the 0:04:48.973 --> 0:04:53.213 Trump administration and by extension, the United States, the enemy 0:04:53.533 --> 0:04:59.693 of the West today. He wrote, autocracies are increasingly confident 0:04:59.893 --> 0:05:03.133 in the United States is moving to their side. According 0:05:03.133 --> 0:05:06.413 to the subhead on the column Washington has decided to 0:05:06.533 --> 0:05:10.933 abandon its post war role in the world. Meanwhile, Wolf 0:05:11.173 --> 0:05:16.733 cites the in his estimation August Franklin Roosevelt as he 0:05:16.813 --> 0:05:20.813 complains that the United States has decided instead to become 0:05:20.973 --> 0:05:23.853 just another great power, indifferent to anything but its short 0:05:23.933 --> 0:05:30.413 term interests, to which Sukup starts his response. The ironies here, 0:05:30.973 --> 0:05:35.973 as well as the historical ignorance abound, And having read it, 0:05:36.173 --> 0:05:38.413 I can tell you that Sukip's right. And I've never 0:05:38.453 --> 0:05:41.173 had much regard for Martin Wolf, and there are many 0:05:41.213 --> 0:05:43.413 many others that I could quote you. Now let me 0:05:43.453 --> 0:05:46.693 cut to the quick disaster in the Oval Office. DEM's 0:05:46.853 --> 0:05:51.413 lead Zelensky and Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to 0:05:51.493 --> 0:05:56.173 reject mineral deal. Written by Michael Goodwin, a senior journalist 0:05:56.493 --> 0:05:59.973 with the New York Post. Now this is worthy of 0:06:00.333 --> 0:06:05.453 some quoting. A common criticism of Zelensky's disastrous Friday performance 0:06:05.493 --> 0:06:08.133 in the Oval Office is that he failed to read 0:06:08.133 --> 0:06:12.293 the room. Actually, the Ukrainian president did read a room, 0:06:12.573 --> 0:06:15.853 but it was the wrong room. Before we go any further, 0:06:16.173 --> 0:06:19.653 let me just say that the war of words between 0:06:19.973 --> 0:06:23.773 opinion makers has largely been based on who caused this 0:06:23.933 --> 0:06:28.253 ruction to kick off and the left scribblers have gone 0:06:28.253 --> 0:06:31.813 straight for the jugular with the president the Vice President 0:06:31.853 --> 0:06:34.733 of America. Listen to what Michael Goodwin has to say. 0:06:35.173 --> 0:06:40.293 Before meeting President Trump, Zelensky met with anti Trump Democrats 0:06:40.693 --> 0:06:43.373 who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral 0:06:43.413 --> 0:06:47.653 deal that the President was offering. According to Senator Chris Murphy, 0:06:48.173 --> 0:06:53.053 Democrat Connecticut, quote, just finished a meeting with President Zelenski 0:06:53.133 --> 0:06:57.093 here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will 0:06:57.133 --> 0:07:00.173 not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything 0:07:00.213 --> 0:07:03.293 he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine. 0:07:03.733 --> 0:07:06.573 He posts that on x at eleven to fifteen am 0:07:06.573 --> 0:07:10.453 on Friday, which a picture of Zelensky at a conference 0:07:10.533 --> 0:07:14.813 table with Murphy seated on the opposite side. Forty minutes later, 0:07:14.853 --> 0:07:18.173 Zelenski arrived at the White House, where Trump met his car, smiled, 0:07:18.213 --> 0:07:20.973 shook his hand, and walked him to the Oval Office. 0:07:21.013 --> 0:07:23.493 The meeting, as the world now knows, quickly went off 0:07:23.573 --> 0:07:28.493 rails and ended with Trump angrily rejecting the arrogant ingrate 0:07:28.693 --> 0:07:33.533 from the White House. The earlier meeting with Dems. The 0:07:33.533 --> 0:07:37.773 Democrats undercuts wild claims that Trump and Vice President J. D. 0:07:37.973 --> 0:07:42.573 Vance staged, staged in ambush. In fact, it was Zelensky 0:07:42.973 --> 0:07:48.013 who came with an ulterior motive, And the piece goes 0:07:48.053 --> 0:07:52.053 on and gives much more detail. Now there is a 0:07:52.053 --> 0:07:55.333 second from the New York Post from I say our 0:07:55.453 --> 0:07:57.813 very own Miranda Devine. She is astray and of course 0:07:57.933 --> 0:08:00.493 we had her on the podcast a few years ago, 0:08:00.773 --> 0:08:03.533 and shortly after she moved to New York and has 0:08:03.533 --> 0:08:07.653 stayed there ever since. Zelensky was the true instigator of 0:08:07.693 --> 0:08:12.453 the Oval Office fracas, not the ambush from Trump. Anyone 0:08:12.453 --> 0:08:15.453 who watched the entire Oval Office meeting between Trump and 0:08:15.613 --> 0:08:19.693 Ukraine President Zelensky would know that it was not an 0:08:19.773 --> 0:08:23.453 ambush or a set up by Trump, as characterized by 0:08:23.493 --> 0:08:28.453 Democrats and malign media entities. It was the opposite. If 0:08:28.453 --> 0:08:30.373 anyone came to that meeting in bad faith, it was 0:08:30.373 --> 0:08:35.133 clearly a Zelenski whose body language and attitude was negative 0:08:35.133 --> 0:08:37.933 from the start. Trump could not have been more cordial, 0:08:38.013 --> 0:08:41.973 having steered the complex negotiations with Russia and Ukraine to 0:08:42.093 --> 0:08:45.733 a first step where he believed peace was a real possibility. 0:08:46.533 --> 0:08:51.573 But Zelensky had other ideas. He contradicted, interrupted and insulted 0:08:51.613 --> 0:08:54.853 Trump even before Vice President J. D. Vant said a word. 0:08:55.213 --> 0:09:00.773 Now there's plenty more like I say, Miranda Divine and 0:09:00.933 --> 0:09:04.013 Michael Goodwin from the New York Post you can find 0:09:04.013 --> 0:09:06.533 them online. But there is one opinion piece that I 0:09:06.573 --> 0:09:11.453 want to emphasize that the only Trump, not Zelensky, can 0:09:11.493 --> 0:09:15.653 say Ukraine. I have known Vladimir A. Zelensky very well 0:09:15.693 --> 0:09:19.493 for years as a senior official personally appointed by Zelensky. 0:09:19.933 --> 0:09:22.533 I spoke to him many times a day and observed 0:09:22.613 --> 0:09:25.813 him closely, both in public and privately. We parted on 0:09:26.013 --> 0:09:30.093 good terms and without rancor. I have no personal act 0:09:30.093 --> 0:09:34.333 to grind, but today I cannot This was written by 0:09:34.333 --> 0:09:37.133 the way On, published on February twenty five, which was 0:09:37.213 --> 0:09:41.373 before before the Overloffice blow up. But today I cannot 0:09:41.373 --> 0:09:45.653 remain silent about how Zelensky is weakening Ukraine under the 0:09:45.653 --> 0:09:49.253 guise of war. As a result of this new climate 0:09:49.253 --> 0:09:51.973 of fear, I must write these words under the veil 0:09:52.093 --> 0:09:57.453 of anonymity, a necessary precaution against retaliation from the very 0:09:57.533 --> 0:10:01.253 regime I once served. It pains me to admit that 0:10:01.293 --> 0:10:03.773 at least some of what Donald Trump said about Zelensky 0:10:03.853 --> 0:10:08.053 is true. While Western politicians have rushed to condemn Trump 0:10:08.053 --> 0:10:11.973 and his vice president's remarks, a quiet ripple of approval 0:10:12.133 --> 0:10:16.093 ran through large parts of Ukrainian society. Ukraine has become 0:10:16.093 --> 0:10:19.933 a paradox, a nation fighting for its sovereignty while dismantling 0:10:20.093 --> 0:10:25.173 its own democratic foundations. Four years, the West has indulged 0:10:25.173 --> 0:10:28.613 in the illusion of Zelensky as the faiths of democracy. 0:10:29.133 --> 0:10:34.013 In reality, he has undermined our democracy, institutions and economy, 0:10:34.573 --> 0:10:38.653 making Ukraine much weaker in the face of an existential threat, 0:10:39.333 --> 0:10:42.973 and in the process destroying our nation's motivation to fight 0:10:43.533 --> 0:10:47.693 the Russian aggressor. Now one two, three and a half pages, 0:10:48.333 --> 0:10:51.413 so I'm not going to quote at all, but let 0:10:51.453 --> 0:10:55.453 me choose some segments. His first presidential term ended in 0:10:55.493 --> 0:10:58.653 May twenty twenty four, but with the war ongoing, no 0:10:58.773 --> 0:11:03.213 elections were held. Zelensky who prolongs martial law every three 0:11:03.213 --> 0:11:06.733 months and has never sought about easing it. As European 0:11:06.773 --> 0:11:11.693 politicians are suggesting claims that the people don't want elections. 0:11:12.253 --> 0:11:15.813 The recent Ukrainian survey confirms this, with sixty five percent 0:11:15.813 --> 0:11:18.453 of Ukrainians not wanting to have elections throughout the war, 0:11:18.733 --> 0:11:21.533 but over half of Ukrainians want to see the end 0:11:21.653 --> 0:11:24.453 of the conflict as soon as possible. According to the 0:11:24.493 --> 0:11:29.733 Gallop polling last year, that percentage might be higher now. Moreover, 0:11:30.013 --> 0:11:33.613 I often doubt we can trust current polls from Ukraine Today. 0:11:33.773 --> 0:11:37.653 Fear rules over a country where elections are indefinitely postponed, 0:11:38.093 --> 0:11:42.933 human rights are systematically eroded, and fear dictates daily life. 0:11:43.413 --> 0:11:47.453 As Zelensky's authoritarian instincts were already becoming clear even before 0:11:47.493 --> 0:11:51.413 Putin's invasion. As early as twenty nineteen, I listened as 0:11:51.453 --> 0:11:55.453 he demanded propaganda from his subordinates to flood the media 0:11:55.533 --> 0:11:59.613 with praise when his policies failed. Today he's achieved that, 0:12:00.053 --> 0:12:02.853 a vast army of voices branding him the face of 0:12:02.893 --> 0:12:07.413 democracy and the very embodiments of Ukraine itself. War has 0:12:07.573 --> 0:12:11.893 provided Zelensky with unchecked power, enabling his security forces to 0:12:11.933 --> 0:12:16.253 act with impunity in at least eight front line regions. 0:12:16.773 --> 0:12:20.253 Martial law has given rise to police and military excesses 0:12:20.773 --> 0:12:24.693 under the pretext of hunting down collaborators. State forces raid homes, 0:12:24.813 --> 0:12:30.133 search phones and laptops, and detain civilians arbitrarily. In such areas, 0:12:30.173 --> 0:12:33.253 people and people will never reveal their true thoughts to 0:12:33.333 --> 0:12:37.413 a journalist or a poster, they will parrot the state's 0:12:37.413 --> 0:12:42.213 approved rhetoric. Zelensky is a hero, Ukraine is unbreakable, and 0:12:42.373 --> 0:12:45.213 then in private they will say what they really think, 0:12:45.373 --> 0:12:48.213 that they want him gone. The war has given Zelenski 0:12:48.293 --> 0:12:52.053 everything he ever wanted, absolute power, control over billions in 0:12:52.213 --> 0:12:55.373 foreign aid and standing ovations from the world. From his 0:12:55.693 --> 0:12:58.333 very first day in office, which I witnessed first hand, 0:12:58.813 --> 0:13:04.253 he was fixated on securing a second term. Publicly, he 0:13:04.293 --> 0:13:07.413 dismissed any talk of reelection, insisting it was too early. 0:13:07.813 --> 0:13:11.573 Privately he never stopped preparing. Zelensky is obsessed with his 0:13:11.613 --> 0:13:14.453 approval ratings. Even now he is laying the groundwork for 0:13:14.493 --> 0:13:18.733 his campaign. Since September of twenty four, his administration has 0:13:18.773 --> 0:13:23.293 been funneling extra payments to those who promote his image online, 0:13:23.653 --> 0:13:28.293 flooding social media with thousands of carefully curated videos showing 0:13:28.373 --> 0:13:32.573 him as the charming actor turned wartime leader clad in 0:13:32.693 --> 0:13:36.653 his signature khaki T shirt. But his more decisive strategy 0:13:36.693 --> 0:13:41.253 has been the systematic elimination of political opponents, and the 0:13:41.453 --> 0:13:44.693 author goes on, shall I conclude with the final paragraph, 0:13:45.173 --> 0:13:48.813 Ukrainians are not cowards but they don't want to die 0:13:48.893 --> 0:13:52.653 for Zelensky's government drowning in corruption scandals day after day. 0:13:53.333 --> 0:13:57.093 Only ending the war and restoring democracy and the economy 0:13:57.133 --> 0:14:01.493 can preserve Ukraine. Continued war will not lead to victory, 0:14:01.613 --> 0:14:05.253 but to the collapse of our nation. Power must change hands, 0:14:05.533 --> 0:14:08.733 and if Donald Trump does not make that happen, then 0:14:08.933 --> 0:14:13.293 Ukraine has no hope. Now, just to wrap this up today, 0:14:13.293 --> 0:14:18.053 of course, this morning's news was that Zelensky is full 0:14:18.053 --> 0:14:20.893 of apologies, desperate to go back to Washington sort this 0:14:20.973 --> 0:14:24.853 out and get the benefits that Trump was offering. So 0:14:24.973 --> 0:14:27.573 if you look at all this in order of how 0:14:27.613 --> 0:14:32.333 it happened, particularly the discovery that Zelensky went and negotiated 0:14:32.453 --> 0:14:35.173 or talked or got coached or however you want to 0:14:35.213 --> 0:14:40.853 interpret it by some undesirable democrats as opposed to more 0:14:40.893 --> 0:14:45.373 desirable democrats. Murphy is one of those, a less desirable democrat, 0:14:46.053 --> 0:14:49.173 then when you can see that things need a different 0:14:49.213 --> 0:14:52.933 interpretation to the one that they were banging on about 0:14:53.013 --> 0:14:57.333 on MSNBC and CNN and other places. Now you can 0:14:57.333 --> 0:15:02.133 find that article only Trump, not Zelensky, can save Ukraine 0:15:03.053 --> 0:15:07.613 on the Spectator dot com, not the Australian Spectator the 0:15:07.853 --> 0:15:13.093 Spectator dot com. If you want to find any of 0:15:13.133 --> 0:15:16.173 those other articles, you want any more information than write 0:15:16.213 --> 0:15:19.533 to me and I'll happily provide them. You could argue 0:15:19.613 --> 0:15:23.413 that because it's anonymous, it's not reliable, and I agree 0:15:23.413 --> 0:15:28.573 that there is a sceric of that. However, I however, 0:15:28.653 --> 0:15:31.413 as you know, I have great respect for the Spectator, 0:15:32.613 --> 0:15:34.853 and I don't believe for a moment they would be 0:15:34.853 --> 0:15:37.093 printing something if they didn't know what the source was. 0:15:37.453 --> 0:15:40.573 And I might just note that the Australian Spectator this 0:15:40.613 --> 0:15:45.013 week is printing opposing viewpoints. It's interesting to note the 0:15:45.053 --> 0:15:48.453 war of words that has developed between some shall we say, 0:15:48.773 --> 0:15:52.613 highly respected high flyers in the world of academia and 0:15:52.693 --> 0:15:56.893 business over this whole issue. Interesting to see it. I 0:15:56.973 --> 0:16:00.853 sort of feel sad that it's happening. On the other hand, 0:16:00.973 --> 0:16:05.653 I think it's great that there is actually full fledged 0:16:05.853 --> 0:16:11.373 and articulate disagreements being publicly discussed, which, in the manner 0:16:11.373 --> 0:16:16.093 of free speech, is highly desirable now. James Raguski is 0:16:16.173 --> 0:16:20.093 a researcher, an author, a natural health proponent and an 0:16:20.133 --> 0:16:23.733 activist who believes that the old systems are rightfully crumbling, 0:16:24.213 --> 0:16:27.453 so we must build their replacements quickly. In March of 0:16:27.773 --> 0:16:32.893 twenty two, he uncovered documents regarding proposed amendments to the 0:16:32.973 --> 0:16:38.413 International Health Regulations and was instrumental in raising awareness about them, 0:16:38.813 --> 0:16:44.053 which resulted in the amendments being rejected. James is now 0:16:44.093 --> 0:16:47.853 doing everything possible to expose the World Health Organization's hidden 0:16:47.893 --> 0:16:52.053 the gender behind their proposed pandemic treaty, as well as 0:16:52.093 --> 0:16:56.173 the who's ongoing attempt to amend the International Health Regulations. 0:16:56.653 --> 0:16:59.453 His vision for the future can be summarized by the 0:16:59.453 --> 0:17:03.853 phrase out of the WHO and in with the New 0:17:04.613 --> 0:17:07.053 Now at the book title, Your doctor is a liar. 0:17:08.533 --> 0:17:12.413 He is undoubtedly controversial, and he will upset some people 0:17:12.453 --> 0:17:17.693 probably and attract others. But nevertheless, I thought and think 0:17:17.813 --> 0:17:21.413 that his opinions are worthy of airing. We shall talk 0:17:21.453 --> 0:17:42.853 with mister Rauguski next. James Ragaski is a researcher and author, 0:17:42.973 --> 0:17:46.373 a natural health proponent, and an activist who believes that 0:17:46.413 --> 0:17:50.213 the old systems are rightfully crumbling, so that we must 0:17:50.253 --> 0:17:53.093 build their replacements quickly. In March of twenty two, James 0:17:53.173 --> 0:17:58.373 uncovered documents regarding proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations 0:17:58.573 --> 0:18:02.133 and was instrumental in raising awareness about them, which resulted 0:18:02.253 --> 0:18:06.373 in the amendments being rejected. James is now doing everything 0:18:06.413 --> 0:18:10.373 possible to expose the World Health Organization, the who's hidden 0:18:10.413 --> 0:18:15.053 the gender behind their proposed pandemic treaty, as well as 0:18:15.093 --> 0:18:19.973 the who's ongoing attempts to amend the international health regulations. 0:18:20.653 --> 0:18:23.413 His vision for the future can be summarized by the 0:18:23.453 --> 0:18:27.573 phrase out of the WHO and in with the New. 0:18:28.213 --> 0:18:30.133 James is very good to have you on the Latensmith 0:18:30.173 --> 0:18:31.413 podcast and I appreciate it. 0:18:31.453 --> 0:18:34.413 Thank you well, thank you very much for having me. 0:18:34.973 --> 0:18:38.293 There's a lot of issues to discuss going on in 0:18:38.333 --> 0:18:41.133 the world. I think most people are on overload. Where 0:18:41.133 --> 0:18:42.013 would you like to start. 0:18:42.213 --> 0:18:44.333 I'd like to start with me sitting up in bed 0:18:45.413 --> 0:18:50.253 yesterday morning actually and opening up my laptop as is usual, 0:18:50.973 --> 0:18:54.933 and reading a piece about you, a short piece information 0:18:55.053 --> 0:18:58.533 piece about you and what you wrote, what your latest 0:18:58.573 --> 0:19:04.333 activity is. And you've opened up a something that I 0:19:04.333 --> 0:19:07.733 would call an asset to the many people who care 0:19:07.773 --> 0:19:10.893 about the sort of things that the DURAN don't involved 0:19:10.893 --> 0:19:14.373 with the sort of things that we discuss constantly, and 0:19:14.453 --> 0:19:18.653 that is the World Health Organization, matters, COVID and all 0:19:18.733 --> 0:19:23.693 related to it. Now you've set up this new website, 0:19:24.453 --> 0:19:25.253 just give us a brief. 0:19:27.053 --> 0:19:30.253 Well, you know, your use of the word asset makes 0:19:30.293 --> 0:19:34.133 me feel very good that that was the first thought 0:19:34.253 --> 0:19:37.493 or word that you use for this. The phrase I 0:19:37.613 --> 0:19:40.893 use is a resource center, but I think those two 0:19:40.933 --> 0:19:46.013 phrases are very very similar. It's called not safe and 0:19:46.333 --> 0:19:51.133 not Effective dot com and it actually is just a 0:19:51.213 --> 0:19:54.773 domain name that points to a series of twenty six 0:19:55.293 --> 0:20:00.733 and potentially more articles that I've written on my substack account, 0:20:01.413 --> 0:20:05.973 and not safe and not Effective dot com is a 0:20:06.053 --> 0:20:10.773 direct pushback against the claims that many people have heard, 0:20:11.053 --> 0:20:14.773 mostly relating to the COVID nineteen injections. I refuse to 0:20:14.773 --> 0:20:17.893 call them vaccines, where everyone keeps saying, oh, they're safe 0:20:17.893 --> 0:20:21.133 and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective, Well they're not. 0:20:21.773 --> 0:20:26.013 They're not safe, they're not effective. And what I've been 0:20:26.053 --> 0:20:29.573 doing for the last months, because I've been publishing these 0:20:29.613 --> 0:20:35.773 one per day, is just essentially collecting the evidence that 0:20:35.853 --> 0:20:41.133 anyone could use to buttress their well founded belief that 0:20:41.213 --> 0:20:45.333 these products are not vaccines. They are not beneficial, they 0:20:45.333 --> 0:20:48.053 are dangerous, and quite frankly, if you look at it, 0:20:48.133 --> 0:20:53.413 very clearly, they are really biological weapons designed to harm you. Now, 0:20:53.693 --> 0:20:57.453 if that shocks you, I encourage you to dig into 0:20:57.493 --> 0:21:00.533 the information because I don't say anything unless I can 0:21:00.573 --> 0:21:04.733 back it up with documentations. This is evidence, not speculation. 0:21:05.533 --> 0:21:07.773 When did you begin this journey? 0:21:08.453 --> 0:21:13.253 Well, you know, if you want to get spiritual about it, 0:21:13.693 --> 0:21:17.213 you know, I was born in nineteen sixty. I was 0:21:17.293 --> 0:21:19.893 born with club feet, and I spent a lot of 0:21:19.933 --> 0:21:25.773 time in you know, orthopedic surgeon offices as a child 0:21:25.973 --> 0:21:29.253 wearing casts and braces. If anybody has watched the movie 0:21:29.333 --> 0:21:33.293 Forrest Gump, Forrest Gump was running with braces on his legs, 0:21:33.293 --> 0:21:37.093 and you know I grew up with those, So I can, 0:21:37.293 --> 0:21:41.333 you know, give testament to the fact that wonderful things 0:21:41.493 --> 0:21:44.693 can be done to help, you know, people improve their lives. 0:21:44.973 --> 0:21:47.933 As far as I'm concerned, you know, I overcame that problem. 0:21:48.293 --> 0:21:52.773 I don't have any issues with my feet or legs 0:21:52.853 --> 0:21:56.853 or whatever. But after the age of nineteen, so approximately 0:21:56.893 --> 0:21:59.533 forty five years ago, I'm sixty four going on sixty five. 0:22:00.213 --> 0:22:03.213 Since the age of nineteen, I have not set foot 0:22:03.253 --> 0:22:07.173 in a doctor's office. You could not pain me to 0:22:07.253 --> 0:22:10.933 go to a medical doctor or take a pharmaceutical drug 0:22:11.133 --> 0:22:14.253 you couldn't pay me to take an aspirin or a 0:22:14.293 --> 0:22:18.413 time and all because I know too much. I've studied 0:22:18.813 --> 0:22:23.213 natural ways of healing, and there are things out there 0:22:23.253 --> 0:22:26.573 that your doctor will never tell you because it's just 0:22:26.653 --> 0:22:31.733 simply not part of their business model. And so to 0:22:31.813 --> 0:22:35.453 fast forward to you know, current times, when all of 0:22:35.493 --> 0:22:39.093 this craziness started happening in twenty twenty, you know, I 0:22:39.093 --> 0:22:42.053 had a lifetime of learning to understand that we were 0:22:42.093 --> 0:22:46.893 being lied to, but unfortunately many people fall for the propaganda. 0:22:46.973 --> 0:22:50.213 The last article that I published is really all about 0:22:50.333 --> 0:22:55.813 how people fall for, you know, sweet sounding lies that 0:22:55.973 --> 0:22:58.893 you know both give you the idea that someone is 0:22:58.933 --> 0:23:02.013 there to try to help you while making you scared 0:23:02.053 --> 0:23:05.093 of an invisible boogeyman. You know that you have to, 0:23:05.253 --> 0:23:07.173 you know, do something to your body to try to 0:23:07.173 --> 0:23:11.173 prevent a problem that you don't actually have. It's marvelous 0:23:11.213 --> 0:23:16.013 how people's minds have been manipulated by what I call 0:23:16.853 --> 0:23:23.213 the Pharmaceutical Hospital Emergency Industrial Complex pH EIC. And the 0:23:23.293 --> 0:23:26.653 reason why I use that phrase is it ties in 0:23:27.213 --> 0:23:32.533 to the other PHEIC from the who they have the 0:23:32.613 --> 0:23:36.653 authority under the International Health Regulations to declare a public 0:23:36.693 --> 0:23:42.413 health emergency of international concern or fake. So when you 0:23:42.533 --> 0:23:44.493 fall for one fake and then you go to the 0:23:44.493 --> 0:23:49.253 pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex and fall for another fake, 0:23:50.053 --> 0:23:54.333 thinking that swallowing or injecting poison into your body is 0:23:54.373 --> 0:23:57.093 the pathway to health. If you don't wake up to 0:23:57.293 --> 0:24:02.453 that reality that they profit from your ill health, that 0:24:02.613 --> 0:24:05.893 is the problem that we face. And the who is just, 0:24:06.013 --> 0:24:09.253 quite frankly, a tiny little piece of that complicated puzzle. 0:24:09.653 --> 0:24:14.373 You write a book a few years ago with regard 0:24:14.413 --> 0:24:17.093 to doctors and the cholesterol. 0:24:18.453 --> 0:24:24.493 I did. I was managing a small herb nutrition, homeopathic 0:24:24.813 --> 0:24:29.973 aromatherapy store here in California and had many many conversations 0:24:30.013 --> 0:24:32.533 with you know, the customers who would come in, and 0:24:33.093 --> 0:24:35.133 one too many of them said, oh, Jim, you ought 0:24:35.133 --> 0:24:38.333 to write a book, okay, And so that was about 0:24:38.373 --> 0:24:41.693 nineteen years ago. I've always given it away. You can 0:24:41.733 --> 0:24:45.293 download the PDF for free. It's entitled and you can 0:24:45.293 --> 0:24:48.093 go to the website by the same name. Your doctor 0:24:48.413 --> 0:24:53.093 is a liar dot com And so cholesterol is just 0:24:53.093 --> 0:24:55.853 a flat out lie, and it's older than I am. 0:24:56.133 --> 0:25:00.213 The lie began in the nineteen fifties, and so that's 0:25:00.253 --> 0:25:02.933 a rabbit hole that. You know, we could go down 0:25:03.053 --> 0:25:05.973 if you want to, but I think there's more current 0:25:06.213 --> 0:25:11.293 problematic things. But it does together because when you look 0:25:11.333 --> 0:25:15.733 at the people who died and their deaths were I 0:25:15.773 --> 0:25:21.493 think inaccurately inappropriately attributed to COVID. You've probably heard the 0:25:21.533 --> 0:25:28.013 phrase co morbidity. Well, morbidity means disease, and so you 0:25:28.013 --> 0:25:30.213 know what percentage of people, let's just say, in the 0:25:30.253 --> 0:25:36.413 United States are diagnosed as having high cholesterol or high 0:25:36.453 --> 0:25:41.013 blood pressure or high blood sugar, diabetes or whatever, and 0:25:41.133 --> 0:25:44.133 what that really means. You know, the people who died 0:25:44.413 --> 0:25:47.093 and their deaths were attributed to COVID, but they had 0:25:47.133 --> 0:25:51.653 all these co morbidities. What is really going on there 0:25:52.053 --> 0:25:55.373 is because they were told they had a problem that 0:25:55.533 --> 0:25:58.653 wasn't really a problem, and the solution that they were 0:25:58.693 --> 0:26:03.413 given wasn't really a solution. These people were being poisoned 0:26:03.493 --> 0:26:08.013 in multiple ways with a cholesterol lowering medication, a stat 0:26:08.373 --> 0:26:11.173 or a high blood pressure medication, or some sort of 0:26:11.253 --> 0:26:17.413 sugar you know, blood sugar management poison and they were suffering, 0:26:17.813 --> 0:26:21.493 you know, liver damage and kidney damage from the poisons 0:26:21.493 --> 0:26:24.853 that they were being given. And when whatever happened to 0:26:24.933 --> 0:26:30.653 them and then they were treated inaccurately and appropriately with 0:26:32.533 --> 0:26:37.933 ventilators and high concentrations of oxygen or rem decivir or whatever. 0:26:38.453 --> 0:26:43.293 They were murdered by the pharmaceutical industry under the guise 0:26:44.053 --> 0:26:47.733 of you know, oh well, this is the approved therapy, 0:26:47.813 --> 0:26:53.093 the approved treatment, the standard protocol. And the problem is 0:26:53.893 --> 0:26:59.253 those standard protocols do not address the cause of the problem. 0:26:59.853 --> 0:27:04.813 And when you know, your doctor or healthcare practitioner puts 0:27:04.853 --> 0:27:11.493