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Speaker 1: You're trusted o the news for its entertainment's opinion and

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Speaker 1: fighting a Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, the Art of

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Speaker 2: A terror fount on the letter of expectation around their attitude,

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Speaker 2: their defensiveness and the treaty. It is CPI Wednesday. Of

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Speaker 2: course we as inflation at are we about to change

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Speaker 2: new bill that you did? Mark Mitchell Duncan web line

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Speaker 2: it up for the politics Wednesday after right, Richard Arnold

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Speaker 2: on the convention in Milwaukee, Steve Price out of us,

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Speaker 2: Spiradia Hosking, Welcome to the middle of the week, seven

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Speaker 2: past six. Welcome to CPI Wednesday, in fact, the day

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Speaker 2: in which we find out what happened to inflation in

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Speaker 2: the June quarter. What's different about this time is the

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank last week changed their tune. Until recently. The

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Speaker 2: misery they've inflicted upon the economy was good news as

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Speaker 2: far as they were concerned. They were squeezing the for

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Speaker 2: Jesus out of the place, and this was going to

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Speaker 2: have the desired effect on inflation. Inflation, remember, needs to

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Speaker 2: return to two percent on average when they feel it's

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Speaker 2: a arrived they can start cutting the cash rate. Cutting

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Speaker 2: the cash rate as the signal that the gargantuan cock

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Speaker 2: up of an economic experiment is finally coming to a close.

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Speaker 2: The consensus among the elites who ponder the stuff on

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Speaker 2: a full time basis is it will have reached about

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Speaker 2: three and a half percent, maybe a little bit lower.

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Speaker 2: That would mean a quarterly figure of about zero point

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Speaker 2: an ongoing basis, it's not long before you work it

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Speaker 2: out that we're back in that one to three percent band. Now,

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Speaker 2: there are several questions, and indeed a very big issue

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Speaker 2: lying next to these figures. If the experts are right,

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Speaker 2: it merely means the cuts might might come late this

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Speaker 2: year as opposed to next year. But the big part,

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Speaker 2: the big question, is when a cut comes, maybe two cuts,

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Speaker 2: what then happens? What profoundly changes to make our lives

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Speaker 2: less backward and miserable? And the answer, of course is nothing.

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Speaker 2: This is not a game of jabbing you in the eye,

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Speaker 2: whereby when you stop jabbing, the pain is over. No,

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Speaker 2: the pain goes on. A cut or who alleviates the

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Speaker 2: ongoing misery, but the doer nature and state of the

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Speaker 2: place doesn't transform overnight into a palm springs like Wonderland.

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Speaker 2: People don't start hiring and spending and partying. At best,

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Speaker 2: they stopped bleeding. Even if the number today is a

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Speaker 2: decent one. We are into this I think for most of,

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Speaker 2: if not all, of this year, and I reckon into

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Speaker 2: next year as well. The damage is so great. It's

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Speaker 2: like Ukraine. The bombing stops good news, but the rebuild,

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Speaker 2: the work to be done. That's your next story, and

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Speaker 2: it's a long one.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds now.

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Speaker 2: It is quite the scene of Milwaukee. If you've been

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Speaker 2: watching his Tim Scott who didn't get the VP not

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Speaker 2: of course, Timers tell us to whipping up the crowd.

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Speaker 3: On Saturday, the devil came to Pennsylvania holding a rifle,

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Speaker 3: but an American lion got back up on.

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Speaker 4: His feet and.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what. I watched about eight hours of that yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and it was like it was like that for eight

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Speaker 2: long hours. JD. Varanes gave insight into what Trump said

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Speaker 2: on the phone call.

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Speaker 5: He just said, look, I think I'm gonna go see

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Speaker 5: this country. I think you're the guy who could help

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Speaker 5: me in the best way. You can help me govern,

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Speaker 5: and you can help me win. You could help me

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Speaker 5: in some of these Midwestern states like Pennsylvania, miss again

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Speaker 5: and so forth.

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Speaker 2: I'll come back to that interview later. China has a

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Speaker 2: pollution report out this morning. Guess what not good?

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Speaker 6: China accounts for thirty percent of annual global greenhouse gars emission,

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Speaker 6: and China currently doesn't have any headline targets for any

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Speaker 7: It's apart from CO two.

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Speaker 8: So there is slightly concerning.

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Speaker 2: Then several things in Britain. One South Goat's quit the

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Speaker 2: football so they need a new coach, and the new

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Speaker 2: coach needs to find a goal scorer to replace Harry Kane.

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Speaker 10: We need another goal scorer, like we have this waiting

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Speaker 10: room need like we've got with Ary to replace him,

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Speaker 10: good talent, but not the sort of talent that scores

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Speaker 2: And then two, the new Defense Secretary is launched day

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Speaker 2: defense review into Britain's military capability.

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Speaker 11: The world is changing fast, the threats are growing. In

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Speaker 11: those circumstances, it's right we take a look at the threats,

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Speaker 11: the capabilities we need, the state of our armed forces

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Speaker 11: as well as the money that's available to fund those.

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Speaker 2: In three, the scandal arounds Strictly Come Dancing. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't followed this, there's well there's a scandal around Strictly

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Speaker 2: Come Dancing where a bloke called the Palmer are left

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Speaker 2: the show because he treated contestants are badly allegedly anyway,

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Speaker 2: BBC have got new rules.

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Speaker 12: It says that there will be a production team member

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Speaker 12: present during training room rehearsals at all times. They're also

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Speaker 12: going to create two new roles, a celebrity welfare producer

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Speaker 2: Ian the BBC could come up with that. Finally, Biscuit

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Speaker 2: news frits each an average of three biscuits a day,

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Speaker 2: so we've got a new survey that shows the three

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Speaker 2: worst biscuits are, perhaps unsurprisingly, Figure Rolls, the pink wafers

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Speaker 2: because they're disgusting and rich Tea biscuits, and another special

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Speaker 2: award went to Gobaldi's. They're the ones with the meshed

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Speaker 2: up raisins and sultanas Between the two thin crackers and

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Speaker 2: food scientists from London and the Netherlands have actually looked

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Speaker 2: into the best biscuit to have with a cup of tea,

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Speaker 2: and it's earthy oat based biscuits such as digestives or

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Speaker 2: indeed hob knobs, and that as used the world in

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Speaker 2: ninety seconds. I am f by the way, speaking of Britain,

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Speaker 2: we seem to have a fascination with Britain. They upgraded

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Speaker 2: again go the Labor Party raise the UK growth forecast

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Speaker 2: to zero point seven percent for the year. This is

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Speaker 2: on the back of a string of upgrades. Gold and

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Speaker 2: increased their forecast by zero point one percent up. UK

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Speaker 2: inflation has already arrived at the two percent in May,

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Speaker 2: leading to the fact that they're probably going to cut shortly.

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Speaker 2: So things economically speaking, much to Rishi's chagrin, seem to

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Speaker 2: be coming right. Twelve past six, The make Costing Breakfast

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Speaker 2: is that the Democrats need Richard Ardeler had more on this,

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Speaker 2: butause if the Democrats need more bad news, Bob and

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Speaker 2: Nendez unsurprisingly but nevertheless, they need this like a hole

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Speaker 2: in the head. He's the New York Senator, New Jersey

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Speaker 2: Senator accused by New York of a whole bunch of things,

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Speaker 2: including bribery, fraud, acting as a foreign agent, obstruction, sixteen

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Speaker 2: one of them. Fifteen past money can now form Devin

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Speaker 2: Funds Management. Greg Smith is with us this Wednesday morning. Morning, Mate, Morning, Mike,

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Speaker 2: doing some of the regular this morning. It's all good news,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Morgan Stanley, Bank of America. They've also to

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Speaker 13: Oh, it's all great news. So the use markets is

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Speaker 13: surged once again. This time it's not led by the

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Speaker 13: up over six hundred points. It's a new record high

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Speaker 13: and older economy stocks to the fore. So you common's

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Speaker 13: exits at a record high. Use They reported a one

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Speaker 13: hundred and fifty percent increase in it think quarter inning, sir,

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Speaker 13: so yeah, confidence on all streets helping to drive profits.

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Speaker 13: Other old fashion names also doing well, so United Health

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Speaker 13: But yeah, are we seeing a bit of a rotation.

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Speaker 13: Maybe it's a a little bit early to say there,

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Speaker 2: See, okay, and then we come to Trump and you've

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Speaker 2: got to say, he's got momentum of nothing else. So

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Speaker 13: there's a few things to look at here, but yeah,

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Speaker 13: obviously there is momentum.

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Speaker 13: Some good news of course of Florida Jojes dismissed the

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Speaker 13: classified documents case. And it's good as nearly four decades

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Speaker 13: younger running mate, she has many of its views, So

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Speaker 13: you know, that's sort of providing a bit of a

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Speaker 13: floating around Mike saying that they did pretty well after

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Speaker 13: his last victory. So the rustle two thousand and that's

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Speaker 13: over two and a half percent overnight. It's up over

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Speaker 13: ten percent over the past months. But maybe is there

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Speaker 13: something else driving us? I mean, she is of Trump's

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Speaker 13: media company actually down almost ten percent overnight. The more

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Speaker 13: the head obviously Jeron Poell come out and say they

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Speaker 13: don't need the senslation hit two percent before they start

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Speaker 13: cutting rates. The odds of a rate cut in September,

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Speaker 13: MIC is now being assigned one hundred percent probabilities that's

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Speaker 13: being locked in, and there's actually a ten percent chance

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Speaker 13: according to futures, that we might even get a fifty

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Speaker 13: think that's probably a lot of what's driving. It's the

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Speaker 13: soft landing scenario. You prap Palell talked about that and

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Speaker 13: that also continued in terms of data overnight. It's the

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Speaker 13: US retail sales. They came in better they've expected flat

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Speaker 13: in June. Maybe not all about Trump. Perhaps a coincidence,

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Speaker 13: but certainly will have implications alone.

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Speaker 2: In there right, I need some numbers, please, no problems to.

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Speaker 13: The doubt is up one point six percent. It's a

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Speaker 5: Legit the same tubbleware I give my five year old

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Speaker 6: Say it again, Tumbleware, Say it again?

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Speaker 18: Look, we get both. We get a plan that is

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Speaker 18: aimed to try and maintain a bit of pragmatism in

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Speaker 18: terms in terms of that plan. But as I say,

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Speaker 18: we are on track to hit our domestic targets based

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time. Simon wants who's the climate Minister? Mike?

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Speaker 2: How can Tanna stayin parliament is an independent when she

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Speaker 2: is only a List MP with no electric to represent Ah,

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Speaker 2: you don't understand the rules more shortly eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The make costing breakfast just before.

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Speaker 2: We leave climate by the way, I know with the

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Speaker 2: grade ele ofmentterest. The head of Bathurst Resources, one of

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Speaker 2: the coal producers in the country, said Cole's got a

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Speaker 2: life well past twenty fifty. He did argue that it's

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Speaker 2: going to be or should we use more for steel

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Speaker 2: making than for heating houses, and Huntley should be a

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Speaker 2: last resort and all that sort of stuff. But this

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Speaker 2: whole idea that coal's gone, fossil fuels are gone is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And the ideaogy that's got us in this trouble is

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Speaker 2: why we can barely put the power on during winter.

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Speaker 2: And we've got to be a little bit more realistic

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Speaker 2: about it in Bathroostar. And yes they'll be using it

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Speaker 2: for steelmaking and not heating houses, but twenty fifty is

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Speaker 2: a long time away. And when they're saying that Cole's

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Speaker 2: still going to be used, the so called the end

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Speaker 2: of fossil fuels is not happening. It's not real.

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Speaker 4: Six forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 4: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business bid Richard.

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Speaker 2: Arnold, what do you, Mike Touble time for the Dems.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Medendez hasn't helped.

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Speaker 15: That's right.

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Speaker 19: They breaking news here is that one of this country's

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Speaker 19: top senators, in the shape of Robert Menendez, has just

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Speaker 19: been found guilty of selling his office to foreign governments

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Speaker 19: for hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and gold

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Speaker 19: bars that gold sealed in plastic baggies or crammed into boots.

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Speaker 19: We're here in a closet in the home. It's pretty bizarre,

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Speaker 19: says US attorney Damian Williams.

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Speaker 5: This case has always been about sharking levels of corruption,

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Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes in the forum

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Speaker 5: of cash, gore bars, Mercedes bands.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't politics as usual. This was politics for profit.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: Menindus has been found guilty on sixteen counts. He was

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Speaker 19: tried along with two other individuals. His wife also is

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Speaker 19: facing charges, but her case has been delayed because she

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Speaker 19: has cancer. This senator was found guilty of taking payoffs

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Speaker 19: to cross convictions in his home state, New Jersey, then

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Speaker 19: seeking to cover all that up. He was also found

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Speaker 19: to have met with Egyptian intelligence officials and help that

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Speaker 19: country access millions of dollars in US military aid in Israel.

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Speaker 19: As head of the Senate Foreign Relations, emerging from Courtman

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Speaker 19: Indez pressed his claim to be innocent and said he

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Speaker 19: will appeal.

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Speaker 9: I have never been anything but a patriot of my

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Speaker 9: country and for my country. I have never ever been.

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Speaker 20: A foreign agent.

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Speaker 9: And the decision rated by the jury today would put

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Speaker 9: at risk every member of the United States Senate in

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Speaker 9: terms of what they think a foreign agent would be.

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Speaker 19: So that's his argument. Everyone does it. I mean, indus

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Speaker 19: is seventy. He could face up to twenty years and

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Speaker 19: is for this the top Senate democrat is calling on

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Speaker 19: him to quit the U S Senate. Menendez could stay

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Speaker 19: on in theory until the appeals processes through. Meantime. That

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Speaker 19: other court case you were mentioning involving US national security

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Speaker 19: is the Trump Classify document situation, where the Trump appointed

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Speaker 19: Florida Judge Aileen Cannon. Throughout the case, Trump of course

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Speaker 19: had piles of papers in his bathroom and elsewhere, secret papers,

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Speaker 19: including materials on US nuclear programs, lying around in parts

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Speaker 19: of marro Lago where visitors could just walk in. This

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Speaker 19: Trump judge says that the special council in the case

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Speaker 19: is unconstitutional, had not been confirmed by the Senate, and

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Speaker 19: so on. This gets down to the gritty netty. But

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Speaker 19: the law professor Michael Gerhad says, the ruling of this judge,

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Speaker 19: who has issued a number of rulings in the case

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Speaker 19: favorable to Trump, is unlikely to stand.

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Speaker 21: In his view, really a terrible opinion, has very little support,

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Speaker 21: and I think is likely to be overturned on a queue.

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Speaker 19: But the bottom line is, as you put it, this

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Speaker 19: holts the case all after the election. So another victory

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Speaker 19: for Trump and his lawyers pers exactly.

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Speaker 2: Then we come to JD. Vance, who turned up yesterday

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Speaker 2: at the of Course Games first interview. What's America making

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Speaker 2: of him?

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Speaker 19: Well, it's early, but you know, it's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: Little surprise.

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Speaker 19: Although when Trump first met Vance, whose middle name was

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Speaker 19: Donald before he changed it to David, when they first

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Speaker 19: met at Mari Lago a few years back, Trump had

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Speaker 19: copies of all the slams Advance that taken against him

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Speaker 19: by calling him, you know, I quite moral disaster and

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Speaker 19: possibly America's hitler. Advans immediately apologize, So things like this

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Speaker 19: no longer operating.

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Speaker 5: The can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and

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Speaker 5: is leading the white working class to a very dark please.

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Speaker 19: So now the never Trump guy is all in. Things

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Speaker 19: have changed dramatically.

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Speaker 5: I was certainly skeptical of Donald Trump in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 5: But President Trump was a great president and he changed

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Speaker 5: one mote.

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Speaker 19: But who is vance. He was in the Marines, where

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Speaker 19: his job was to escore civilian press basically and gather

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Speaker 19: some info and a few articles from military news service.

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Speaker 19: His wife is an Indian immigrant lawyer who worked for

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Speaker 19: a couple of Supreme Court justicees Spread Cavanon and John Roberts.

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Speaker 17: The chief.

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Speaker 19: Vans himself went into venture capitalism. Policy wise, he says

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Speaker 19: Latin American immigration is killing jobs for folks in his

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Speaker 19: home state, Ohio and letting more Democratic voters pour into

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Speaker 19: the land. On foreign policy, he's in America first, says

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Speaker 19: he quote doesn't really care what happens in Ukraine one

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Speaker 19: way or another. In the Middle East, he says, quote

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Speaker 19: his heart goes out to civilians in Gaza, but he

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Speaker 19: still fully supports Israel.

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Speaker 2: And abortion.

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Speaker 19: Vans opposes abortion rights even in cases of rape or incest.

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Speaker 19: Victims of rape or incests should be compelled to have

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Speaker 19: those babies, apparently on climate change. He says that's not

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Speaker 19: a real threat. He wants increasing tariffs on imports from

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Speaker 19: other countries and is not interested in traditional conservative small

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Speaker 19: government priorities. He is thirty nine years old, so half

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Speaker 19: the age of Trump. He calls people convicted of crimes

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Speaker 19: during the attack on the US Capitol on January the

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Speaker 19: sixth political prisoners, so echoing his boss. He says the

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Speaker 19: twenty twenty election was not a real election and says

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Speaker 19: he will not commit to the results of the coming

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Speaker 19: up elections this year. He says he had had he

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Speaker 19: been vice president in twenty twenty one, unlike Mike Pence,

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Speaker 19: he would have thrown out the real electoral votes in

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Speaker 19: place of Trump proxy. So even though he ditched that

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Speaker 19: middle name Donald, he has embraced the mega campaign virtually

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Speaker 19: in every other one.

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Speaker 2: Richardame, we'll back on Friday on the program Morning consopt

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Speaker 2: to first poll out post shooting that I can find

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Speaker 2: hasn't moved the needle, so of course, the reference being

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Speaker 2: that when Ronald Reagan was shot, he went up twenty

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Speaker 2: two points, still early days, but to Trump on forty six.

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Speaker 2: Butard and forty five. These are national numbers. I'm not

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Speaker 2: a big fan of national numbers because it's swing states

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Speaker 2: that count. But the previous poll was forty four to

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Speaker 2: forty two to Trump. Now it's forty six forty five

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Speaker 2: to Trump. Mike, and the US is as intractably polarized,

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Speaker 2: then the margins and the presidential election will be incredibly fine.

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Speaker 2: Way too early to pretic Trump win, as the current

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Speaker 2: polarization will prevent a landslide. You missed one critical point,

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Speaker 2: and I'll explain the moment nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike hosting Racist with Jaguar News.

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Speaker 2: You'll mind on Trump winning. It doesn't matter what Trump

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Speaker 2: wins by. If he wins, he can win by one.

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Speaker 2: You race to two seventy and that's all you need.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter whether you win by a landslide, to win

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Speaker 2: by one vote, you win, you win. So the big story,

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Speaker 2: the real story is if this momentum continues, what does

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Speaker 2: it do for the House of Reps? What's to doe

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Speaker 2: for the Senate? Can the Republicans get all three? The

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Speaker 2: presidency in other words, the White House, the House of Reps,

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Speaker 2: and the Senate. And that's the big fear for the

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Speaker 2: Democrats at the moment because of all those people who

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Speaker 2: went home. The Democrats went home and they were thinking, suddenly,

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Speaker 2: my seats in trouble come November. It's not about the presidency.

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Speaker 2: It's my seat in the House of Reps. My seat

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Speaker 2: in the Senate is Biden, the man that's where the

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Speaker 2: problem lies, five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the inns are the outs.

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Speaker 17: It's the biz.

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Speaker 1: With business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now it turns out the euro has been very good

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Speaker 2: for food in Britain from the period beginning from the tournament,

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Speaker 2: which was June fourteen to the seventh of July. So

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Speaker 2: that's not the whole tournament because the complete tournament numbers

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Speaker 2: aren't out yet, but to this point, sales at supermarkets

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Speaker 2: are up two point two percent year on the ear

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Speaker 2: driven by beer, potato, chips and snacks. Also, Brick's made

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Speaker 2: two percent more trips than usual to the shops because

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Speaker 2: they ran out of beer, potato, chips and snacks. So

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Speaker 2: if you break it down to individual days, beer sales

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Speaker 2: were up thirteen percent on the days that England played

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Speaker 2: and no alcohol and low alcohol it was up thirty

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Speaker 2: eight percent because Most of the England games were played

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Speaker 2: on weeknights. You don't want to get tanked on a

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Speaker 2: weeknight because you've got a gap. Only go work tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Don't running in sick. Well, not the football. They got

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Speaker 2: the wet summer problems at the moment, you got sales

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Speaker 2: of artificial tan. Artificial tan Sharon has increased sixteen percent

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Speaker 2: in the four week period. Ten percent drop in demand

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Speaker 2: for sunscreen, No one want sunscreen. Cold and flu medicine

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Speaker 2: sales they're up thirty five percent on peak summer. So

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Speaker 2: it hadn't been overly warm. Its continuing to rain. And

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Speaker 2: my forecast to Nick Cassidy yesterday for the Formula E

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Speaker 2: this weekend was completely and utterly wrong. I mean it

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Speaker 2: was right at the time I gave it to them,

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Speaker 2: but it's been chain changed. They thought it was going

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Speaker 2: to be there was a heat wave coming and it

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Speaker 2: was going to be super hot by the weekend. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to be super hot at all. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be about twenty one degrees in cloudy. So sort

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Speaker 2: of thing.

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Speaker 15: You're saying that they did a weather forecast that it

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Speaker 15: turned out to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what happened. Glynn was at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the week they were talking about the weather and by

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Speaker 2: the next day it change the like change completely.

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Speaker 15: See this is what I'm saying. With the news, you're

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Speaker 15: going to get rid of the weather and bring a

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Speaker 15: more horoscope.

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Speaker 2: I reckon you need more Tash Cash or whatever whatever

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Speaker 2: her name. One Channel seven was get old Tash on

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Speaker 2: board of stuff. Thought of that yet, given they had

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Speaker 2: given their trials and tribulations, I mean that they thought

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Speaker 2: of bringing in a little bit of horoscope action at

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Speaker 2: six o'clock at night on on TV three. I haven't

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Speaker 2: got to your Tanna question. How can Tarna stay in Parliament?

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Speaker 2: It's a very fair question. I do have an answer

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Speaker 2: for you, and I'll give it to you after the News,

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Speaker 2: which is.

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Speaker 1: Next the breakfast show You Can Trust the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News togs.

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Speaker 2: D B seven past seven. So as we previewed by

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Speaker 2: the Acting Prime Minister on the show yesterday at about

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Speaker 2: this time David Seymour's farm app Then I see yesterday

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Speaker 2: afternoon fired off the letter of expectation to his agency.

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Speaker 2: They need to improve culture and public perception. The tricky

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Speaker 2: why TANGI also gets to mention and in charge of

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Speaker 2: making this regalousy is the FIREMAC chair of course, Paula Bennett, who.

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Speaker 22: Is with us.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 23: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Are you aligned with the minister?

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Speaker 23: Yes, the mist has laid out his expectations very clearly

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Speaker 23: and it's now my job to try and implement that

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Speaker 23: into the organization.

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Speaker 2: Do you have an executive aligned with your and his view?

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Speaker 23: Yes, yes, I believe so. I mean we're having discussions

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Speaker 23: and you know there's different views, and you know, people

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Speaker 23: have been under one sort of regime and one letter

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Speaker 23: of expectation from a very different minister, and now they

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Speaker 23: have put one, so there's a lot of discussions still

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Speaker 23: go on.

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Speaker 2: I think do you agree with the letter in the

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Speaker 2: sense that FARMAC have been troubled, they've been needlessly defensive.

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Speaker 23: Well, I mean I definitely would say that they have

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Speaker 23: been somewhat defensive, and I don't know if i'd use

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Speaker 23: the word needlessly. I mean they're having to say no

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Speaker 23: more than they can say yes. They do care about

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Speaker 23: New Zealanders, want to deliver more medicines, and they haven't

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Speaker 23: had the budget to do that, and so as a consequence,

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Speaker 23: there's a lot of frustration and there's a lot of

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Speaker 23: anger and they've perhaps closed themselves in instead of going

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Speaker 23: more openly outward, which is what I think we'd all

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Speaker 23: like to see.

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Speaker 2: What I've found fascinating about public servants and I look

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Speaker 2: at I talk them as fit particularly she can be

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Speaker 2: something and then something completely different. How do you do that?

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Speaker 23: I don't know how to answer that. I would just

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Speaker 23: say that I think Sarah cares a lot about delivering

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Speaker 23: for New Zealanders. She's incredibly smart and intelligent and knowledgeable

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Speaker 23: about medicines and medical devices and the role that she's in,

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Speaker 23: and certainly she's been a great help to me in

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Speaker 23: the last couple of months as I've been in the role.

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Speaker 2: What do you see The problem has been with the

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Speaker 2: treaty Wheitangi, and it's obsessioned by various government departments and

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Speaker 2: specifically in your role farmic.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Well, I mean they were given a commendate from the

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Speaker 23: previous government that they were to implement the treaty throughout

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Speaker 23: the organization and how they make decisions, and they put

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Speaker 23: a lot of effort into that. You know, I think

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Speaker 23: the Minister is quite clear and that that's, you know,

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Speaker 23: not the main mandate for the organization, and instead they

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Speaker 23: need to be looking at, you know, the need of

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Speaker 23: medicines for all New Zealanders, irrelevant of race.

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Speaker 2: Could they, in your experience in looking into the organization,

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Speaker 2: point to anything tangible that as a result of dealing

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Speaker 2: with the treaty in the way they did that they

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Speaker 2: improved the outcome for anybody in this country at all.

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Speaker 23: Not not something that I can point to. You know,

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Speaker 23: I do think there's something. You know, we are responsible

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Speaker 23: as well for access, and there's something in those more

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Speaker 23: rural communities you get a different standard of gear, if

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Speaker 23: you like in Auckland because of your access to hospitals

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Speaker 23: and medicines, and we want to make sure that those

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Speaker 23: medicines are getting to the more rural areas and being

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Speaker 23: administered to the right people. So in that consequence, I

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Speaker 23: think it could be affecting Mary that you know traditionally

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Speaker 23: do live more rural areas.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes when can I get you on the program and

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Speaker 2: you can go, Mike, it's working.

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Speaker 23: Look, every day, it's going to improve. That's how I work.

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Speaker 23: I believe in continuous improvements. You know, it's not going

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Speaker 23: to happen overnight, but if every day we're making better decisions.

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Speaker 23: And you can see the speed that with the money

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Speaker 23: that they've got that they're rolling out new medicines is

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Speaker 23: just really impressive. They are working incredibly hard. I know

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Speaker 23: that that's what they want to do. We've got the

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Speaker 23: option as well in the letter as to how we

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Speaker 23: look at, if you like embiedding that social investment modeling

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Speaker 23: as well, so thinking that if we get medicines sooner

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Speaker 23: to the right people, then they may not need operations

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Speaker 23: as much hospitalizations. That's making savings right across the sector.

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Speaker 23: And I think that we can move on that sort

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Speaker 23: of stuff pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. We'll stay in touch and go well with

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Speaker 2: Paul Bennett, who's the FARMAC chair with us this morning,

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes past seven hundred percent, right when he says

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Speaker 2: the treaty has been distracting FARMAC, I think that's the

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Speaker 2: case throughout all central and local government. I don't think

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Speaker 2: there'll be many people who won't disagree with that. Now

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Speaker 2: other matters CPI Wednesday, welcome to it where a lot

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Speaker 2: of people hope and hold their breath that inflation are

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Speaker 2: showing genuine signs are falling, thus leading sooner or rather

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Speaker 2: than later to the Reserve Bank entering the elusive world

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Speaker 2: of the rate cut. West Paxtief economist Kelly E. Colder

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Speaker 2: is with us. Kelly, very good morning to you morning

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Speaker 2: zero point six. You're a little higher than the others,

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Speaker 2: you little doer than the others. What's driving that?

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Speaker 24: Well, we think that the services sector inflation is still

752
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Speaker 24: going to remain reasonably chunky, So we're in line with

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Speaker 24: where the Reserve Bank was forecasting things would be when

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Speaker 24: they told us back in May, although probably since then

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Speaker 24: it sounds like they're maybe expecting something a little lighter.

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Speaker 2: The non tradeable worry you.

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Speaker 24: Still, that is basically what the services sector stuff is about.

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Speaker 24: I mean, obviously there's a few high profiles stickier things

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Speaker 24: like rates and insurance, which are going to take a

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Speaker 24: while to adjust, But it's all the other things in

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Speaker 24: the services sector that I'm watching particularly closely because those

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Speaker 24: have been robust now for a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Do we see ford beyond today? In other words, this

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Speaker 2: is retrospective obviously at three point six and trending down

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Speaker 2: still here now today or three point six and sticky.

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Speaker 24: It's three point six says probably three point five today

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Speaker 24: and heating lower The question is not really about whether

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Speaker 24: we're going to go down, it's about how.

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Speaker 14: Are we going to go down?

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Speaker 24: And for the Reserve Bank, there's a big difference between

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Speaker 24: inflation being around two percent and say two point Take

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Speaker 24: the seat and say six and nine months time.

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Speaker 2: Right, Let me read to this text, see if he's right, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Since the RB dubbish perpot last week, the market's now

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Speaker 2: pricing effectively eight twenty five point rate cuts over the

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Speaker 2: next eight meetings, taking the cash rate to three point

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Speaker 2: five percent in August next year. Would you agree with

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Speaker 2: that or not?

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Speaker 24: I don't agree with that. I think that the Reserve

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Speaker 24: Bank won't be moving that fast. Even if we get

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Speaker 24: a good number today, it's still going to take a

782
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Speaker 24: while for that service expected to flea adjust.

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Speaker 2: So the problem being, do you see anything remarkable? So

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Speaker 2: say they cut. Do you say for a first of

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Speaker 2: all end of the year, they'll cut the first cut

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Speaker 2: coming at the end of the year or not?

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Speaker 24: Well, right now, I'm still on the early next year

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Speaker 24: in February. Today's data, though it is going to be important.

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Speaker 24: The Reserve bank chut did shift last week, and you

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Speaker 24: have to listen to that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the second part of that question. When they go,

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Speaker 2: they go more than once, So once twice does anything

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Speaker 2: materially change in the economy. Do we get out of

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Speaker 2: our funk or not?

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Speaker 24: Well, I think things will improve relative to the very

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Speaker 24: negative situation right now. You've got to remember that through

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Speaker 24: this year the economy has been hit with three pretty

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Speaker 24: negative factors. First, one of the banks suggested there'd be

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Speaker 24: great heights this year, which initially put things into a fund.

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Speaker 24: And then we've got a big CPI in the first quarter,

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Speaker 24: which solidified in people's minds that it was going to

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Speaker 24: take a while for interest rates to go down. Then

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Speaker 24: the Reserve Bank hit us in May with the idea

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Speaker 24: that interest rates might have to go up and certainly

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Speaker 24: wouldn't be going down until later next year. I think

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Speaker 24: those views have all shifted away now, right so, just

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Speaker 24: looking about the timing thought, things that are going to

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Speaker 24: start will be drates to be falling. That will be

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Speaker 24: something that will make households feel a bit chippier.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's hope you're right. In today, we hope

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Speaker 2: you're wrong. Kelly Eck Cold Westpac chief economists with us

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Speaker 2: this morning. I'm still coming back to it. How can

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Speaker 2: tanna stay in Parliament as an independent when she's only

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Speaker 2: a the st MP. I will get to it, I promise.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past the hosting racist Nigel Aby are Chef de

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Speaker 2: Mission and parisies with a shortly Shaan Fitzpatrick on Norm

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Speaker 2: Hewitt before eight o'clock as well. Seventeen past seven. Government

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Speaker 2: are having a look at our insulation rules so MB

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Speaker 2: they've been asked to investigate a standard known as H one.

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Speaker 2: The thinking is the industry are suggesting apparently current laws

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Speaker 2: lead to overheating too much insulation, new builds of fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars more expensive than they need to be in

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Speaker 2: z Certified build a CEO Malcolm Flemings with us on

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Speaker 2: this Malcolm morning, Good morning to you, Mike. What's H

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Speaker 2: one is fewer pink bats or what.

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Speaker 25: H one is a variety of things, But first of

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Speaker 25: all certified builds support one understandings ventilation and they're all

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Speaker 25: backed which has been proposed would under changes that are

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Speaker 25: making the selling buildings Liverpool and sustainable. We meet with

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Speaker 25: them mister recently. The offer ways to reduce building costs.

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Speaker 25: We're without reversing the most effective components of attune requirements

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Speaker 25: which are now accepted and adopted by the construction industry.

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Speaker 2: Right, so H one's good week live with H one.

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Speaker 2: If we went to H one, we'd save money and all.

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Speaker 17: Is well.

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Speaker 25: When we're looking at it costs. It's quite important thoughe

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Speaker 25: that I've been talking to members in the last couple

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Speaker 25: of parts about this and coming are quite upset. One

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Speaker 25: of them recently told the Glass for examples, in an

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Speaker 25: eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars build, which is a

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Speaker 25: live build in Auckland, there's about ten k of costs

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Speaker 25: associated with H one. Members are typically telling me for

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Speaker 25: standards house it's in the tens of twenty K. When

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Speaker 25: will say about forty percent on heading costs. That's a

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Speaker 25: relatively small upfront investment formnificant long term game. I think

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Speaker 25: it's a point alope that significant investment has been made

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Speaker 25: by government and industry to ensure that buildings were prepared

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Speaker 25: for the H one adoption date in May twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 25: Manufacturers have also invested heavily, and new plant for machinery

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Speaker 25: was required to produce window frames to accommodate firmly efficient

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Speaker 25: class required by the new removing H one and do

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Speaker 25: much of that investment by business.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so are we heading in the right direction or not.

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Speaker 25: I think we're heading in the right direction with h

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Speaker 25: one and our sponsortibilities with the Powers agreement, we're getting

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Speaker 25: warmer homes. Lot the costs to ramos homes go forward.

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Speaker 25: We're going back to where we were two three years

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Speaker 25: ago as a backward stamp. And there's also a sense

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Speaker 25: a low confidence from business to government in regard to

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Speaker 25: we're being asked to produce nut skill and provide the machinery.

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Speaker 14: Go too orders.

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Speaker 2: You don't know where you're at.

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Speaker 25: You don't know where're at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no consistency. I get it, malcolmpreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Fleming the New Zealand Certified Builders Operation Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Rates will never go down. Councils do whatever they're like, Andrew,

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Speaker 2: you're right and you're wrong. Rates only play. Everything's weighted

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Speaker 2: in the inflation story. So council think about your economy.

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Speaker 2: Your economy is money comes into the house and money

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Speaker 2: goes out of the house. How much money goes out

871
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: of the house to rates versus money it goes out

872
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,719
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873
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Speaker 2: and your food and you're driving a your car and

874
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. So, yes, councils are a problem.

875
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: Yes insurance is a problem, but they alone are not

876
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877
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,680
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897
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898
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Speaker 2: goodness sake, head and store. Do it online if you

899
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900
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Speaker 2: because that sale ends two day. PASKI even't twenty four right,

901
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: Darlene Tana as she continues her woe is me, I've

902
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: been wronged road show. We might like to look to

903
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: a little bit of history for advice or instruction on this.

904
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: We have been here before. I believe it began with

905
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: Alamin Kopa, remember the name, many years ago, another woman

906
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: with very similar grievances to Tana. Is not fair? Why

907
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: was me hard done by? She was part of the

908
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: alliance in the early days of MMP, when these new

909
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: lists MPs rolled into Parliament on nothing more than a

910
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: party's women said about causing trouble. Isn't it remarkable?

911
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 13: Ah?

912
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: Isn't it remarkable to think that three decades later we

913
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: still haven't learned how to run the system properly. It's

914
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: become embarrassingly obvious the Greens aren't up too much when

915
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: it comes to candidate selection. Tana, who got voted for

916
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: specifically by no One scraped and scraped in twelve on

917
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: the list, now has the power to just hang about

918
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: the place and cause who knows how much trouble, and

919
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: of course paid for by us. Meantime, the party who

920
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: could do something aren't for reasons only they can try

921
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: and explain. They can't contact her, they won't release the

922
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: report we paid for, they won't tell us how much

923
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: it cost, and they're twisting themselves into indigestion over the

924
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: walker jumping law. That would solve their problems except for

925
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: the fact they've banged on so loudly about it being unfair.

926
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 2: Here's the most important part of this. Chloe Swarbrick has aspirations.

927
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: She openly states she can take the party and overtake

928
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: Labor as the major left player. But how can she

929
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: even begin to do that when she can't even run

930
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: the place the size it is? How do you appeal

931
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: to say twenty eight twenty nine to thirty percent of

932
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: New Zealanders when at twelve or thirteen, you look at shambles,

933
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: a dysfunctional, indecisive, dithering shambles. If all they aspire to

934
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: be is a minor noise maker yapping away on the

935
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: sidelines of an MMP system that allows increasingly fringe operators

936
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: a seat or two, then this would be just another

937
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 2: amateurish mess. But when you see yourself in the mainstream,

938
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: you got to act like you belong there and small

939
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 2: clue Chloe, this isn't it mos Key. So an answer

940
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: to the question how can Tarna stay in Parliament because

941
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: the rules say so? And because nobody worked out what

942
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: was wrong with the rules when they put them in place,

943
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: and we weren't awake at the time when we voted

944
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: for MMP, and we didn't see all the trials and tribulations.

945
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: It was only later when the Waker jumping legislation came

946
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: along that they actually found a solution to the problem.

947
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: But then the Green stripped themselves up and they don't

948
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: like the Waker jumping legislation. What's not to like? I've

949
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: got no idea, but under the rules you can come

950
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: in under one party having been voted more by literally nobody,

951
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: and then you can just sit there and we've seen

952
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: it a number of times before, and still they won't

953
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: learn their lesson. Mike Retarner, I hope she stays on

954
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: in Parliament to act as a festering boil on the

955
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: inner thigh of the Green Party, a party that brought

956
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: in bullying, thieving in migrant exploitation. They deserve it for

957
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: not enhancing the waker jumping legislation because they're a party

958
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: of ethics. Burn baby burn, So the sigin river, sane River,

959
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: the Sceine River prize for the person who gets the

960
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: correct pronunciation. Anyway, you can swim in this thing or not?

961
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: What's Nigel Avery make of all of this? And did

962
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: you realize the triathlm becomes the dueth if they can't

963
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: swim in the river. What sort of gerrymanded half fast

964
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: Olympic Games event is that? For goodness sake? Nigel Avery

965
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: is with us from Paris after the news which is

966
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: next near at newstalk said.

967
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: Be what big news bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

968
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: with Jaguar, the Art of Performance news dogsa'd be.

969
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: Mike the Greens don't like the waker jumping legislation because

970
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: normally it works against them. They just want listening piece

971
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: from major parties to be able to jump to the Greens.

972
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: Normally it's a disenfranchised from GMP that they see they've

973
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: got more clout at a smaller party. Sort a bad

974
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: point you make that would make, of course the Greens

975
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: hypocrites and whoever thought that that'd be that? Mike. I'm

976
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: wondering how your Lulu is doing. I hopefully recovered Sue's

977
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: what a very nice question to ask. Lulu is very well,

978
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: thank you, and she bounced back. She was sick for

979
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: a week, had pancreatitis, as it turned out. And I

980
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: had lunch with my daughter who's a medical student, the

981
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: other day when she was in town. And my daughter's

982
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: become increasingly useful over the years in medical matters, because normally,

983
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: when I used to ask her about things like pancreatitis

984
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: when she was eight or nine, I'd say, what causes pancreatitis?

985
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: And when she's eight years old, she didn't have the

986
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: slightest clue. But now at the age of twenty three

987
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: and a fifth year medical student, she seems to know

988
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: and it's not good pancreatitis and dogs or humans. As

989
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: it turns out, not a lot you can do about it,

990
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: and there's not a lot you can do to prevent

991
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: it either, as it turns out. But anyway, Lulu came

992
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: right and so she's feeling absolutely fantastic. Twenty three and

993
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: it's away from eight with the Olympics just nine days away.

994
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: We have, as of fire this morning, officially our final

995
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: team set to go, so that includes one hundred and

996
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: ninety five athletes twenty three sports. The chef of Mission

997
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: in Paris's night to Labor he is with us morning,

998
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: Good morning to you too. What's the vibe.

999
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 7: The ViBe's pretty good. Yeah, it's the weather's been nice,

1000
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 7: it's not too hot, and the people in the village

1001
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 7: have been very very helpful, the villagers ready to go

1002
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 7: from us from walking and get our sort of provival

1003
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 7: stuff together. So it's been really good.

1004
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: The weather you mentioned, is it going to get hot?

1005
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: And if it does get hot, how does that impact

1006
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: the athletes and their performance?

1007
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 7: Do you think, yeah, look, it's a performance. I guess

1008
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 7: it depends on what your perspective is. It's probably sleeping

1009
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 7: side of it is that all the recovery is probably

1010
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 7: the most important from that aspect. So we've got econditioning

1011
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 7: facilities in the rooms and were heating. This is the

1012
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 7: village in Saint Denis. The other satellite locations have got

1013
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 7: econditioning in their in their hotels, so they'll be fine.

1014
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 7: But from what the long range or the ten day forecast,

1015
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 7: it's not really looking to get overly hot. It's just

1016
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 7: really kind of nice.

1017
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: Good What about security? Can you still move?

1018
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we can still move. So now we've got

1019
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 7: to embedded security. The aison officer on the team, he's

1020
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 7: been meeting with all the heads of security here in

1021
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 7: the village and they've got sort of groups sort of

1022
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 7: spread around. We actually don't really see it. They're not noticeable,

1023
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 7: but they're ready to move should something happen. And then

1024
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 7: when we were moving from our accommodation in the hotel

1025
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 7: for the first two nights to the village, there's just

1026
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 7: the real strong presence of police, you know, particularly as

1027
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 7: we start getting into Saint Denis.

1028
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: When you get to a country the size of France,

1029
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: and you've been around the world of course, and places

1030
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: like London or New York, it's not like New Zealand,

1031
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't stop. The whole nation's not paying attention. Do

1032
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: you get the sense that France will in some way,

1033
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: shape or form be genuinely interested in the Olympic Games

1034
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four.

1035
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there will. Look, I think there's been

1036
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 7: a lot of negativity about the games from the local population,

1037
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 7: as I think it is for most games. But when

1038
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 7: push comes to shove, when that opening sere, when it happens,

1039
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 7: I think they're going to be extremely proud of what

1040
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 7: they're putting on and they'll just dog get it behind it.

1041
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 7: That's what I think.

1042
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: What about the river, would you jump on the sane yourself?

1043
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 7: Oh, I'd have a crack, I guess. I mean the

1044
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 7: meth is the other day. But we're chatting. We're just

1045
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 7: coming back from dinner now and we're chatting out of

1046
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 7: dinner and nutrition has said, well, it's all really about.

1047
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 14: To swimmer the river.

1048
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 7: But what's happening now? You know they an hostel on

1049
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 7: a drip, But I think we had a bit of

1050
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 7: a downpour a couple of days ago. It was quite

1051
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 7: was torrential, and I think that's the issue. If it rains,

1052
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 7: it's going to have some runoff and it's going to

1053
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 7: be problems. But the forecast for the next teen days

1054
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 7: is dry, it's fine, So that's going to take up

1055
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 7: to sort of you know, close to the opening and

1056
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 7: trifling sort of early days. So I guess we're just

1057
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 7: going to a cross the things. It does stay dry,

1058
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 7: and that's going to help things in that department.

1059
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: Does that mess with athletes? I mean, if you don't

1060
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: know where your venue is, is that a problem?

1061
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 7: Look, I guess. I mean and for triathon, the plan

1062
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 7: b if it's if it's that dangerous to swimming, is

1063
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 7: going to go to a jew f one. And so

1064
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 7: clearly the swimmers or the strong swimmers of the three

1065
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 7: disciplines are going to be pretty put out, whereas you

1066
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 7: know the strong cyclist and runner they're going to go well,

1067
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 7: happy days. So at the end of the day, though,

1068
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 7: it is what it is, and you just got to

1069
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 7: come up with with what's put in front of you.

1070
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: What about the psychology. Have you had to get into

1071
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: the ear of some of the young people.

1072
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 13: Not yet.

1073
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 7: There's no no athletes arriving yet, so it's been pretty

1074
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 7: pretty quiet on that front.

1075
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 2: Will you have to talk to them about the size

1076
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: of the event, expectation, managing it, all of those sort

1077
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: of things.

1078
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1079
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 7: Look, I've spoken to most of them since selection, and

1080
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 7: particularly the new and younger first times. I'll say, well, look,

1081
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, you are going to

1082
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 7: you're very good at what you've done to get to

1083
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 7: where you are now, so you just got to just

1084
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 7: figure out what that was that got you there and

1085
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 7: repeat it. But no, at the same time, there's a

1086
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 7: lot of noise around and you're going to try and

1087
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 7: just let that flow over the top and focus on

1088
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 7: what you can do.

1089
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety five athletes, twenty three sports, how

1090
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: many medals?

1091
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 7: Oh, look, that's a really good question, and I don't know.

1092
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 7: Asked me in a month, and I'll tell you precisely.

1093
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 7: But look, I think we'll get a fair share. There's

1094
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 7: definitely going to be the ones who we think they

1095
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 7: should get them and they will, and there'll be others

1096
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 7: that think well we should get them and they may not, right,

1097
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 7: and there'll be everything else in between. And so yeah,

1098
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 7: I think the I think you're going to realize is

1099
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 7: that as most people do, I guess is there's ten

1100
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 7: and a half thousand athletes here all trying to do

1101
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 7: the same thing, and they all can't get medals. And

1102
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 7: I guess our job is to make sure that eachf weete,

1103
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 7: I mean a wee they play is right up with

1104
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 7: the with what the expectation or their ability is. Because

1105
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 7: you like, at let's face that they all can't stand

1106
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 7: on the podium. It just doesn't doesn't work like that.

1107
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: That is the truth, Nigel. Go well, and we'll stay

1108
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: in touch over the next couple of weeks. Night to

1109
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: lavery are cheft a mission by the way of the

1110
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety five ninety eight males ninety seven females.

1111
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: So the hand ringers will be happy. Luca Jones, Ellie Riley,

1112
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Emma Twig. They're back for their fifth Olympic Games. How

1113
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 2: cool is that? Youngest is eighteen year old Millie Cleig,

1114
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: who kicks a football, and the oldest is forty five

1115
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: year old Tim Rice, who of course rides a horse.

1116
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: Seventeen to two the masting breakfast fourteen away from it.

1117
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: Can't give them too much stick, Mike. You can't swim

1118
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: and half the beaches around Auckland and it rains. Actually

1119
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 2: this fair point, Mike, Why does my radio signal keep dropping.

1120
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: I live in christ Church and this happens all the

1121
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: time with your station. Move the movie, your radio just

1122
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: to the left, Just turn it slightly to the left.

1123
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 15: And I just up a bet yeah, but more bit

1124
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 15: more a high shelf.

1125
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: Yep, heights the main ring fantastical. There, we're able to

1126
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: solve that. So we've got a phone called trump Rings RFK.

1127
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: Now RFK At this particular point, when the phone goes

1128
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: ring ring, I assume rfk's phone goes ring ring. Uh,

1129
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 2: he's got a videographer filming him. What just in case

1130
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: the phone goes ring ring? What do you reckon this

1131
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: videography anyways? For getting filmed? And when you see the film,

1132
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: look up the film because it's pink that that's a

1133
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: story in itself, I'm sure for a later day. His

1134
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: son Bobby, as in the third puts it online. Whoops,

1135
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: bad idea, deletes it, but not before we got hold

1136
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: of it. So this is trump an rfk's.

1137
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Vacination.

1138
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 17: That's like thirty different vacs.

1139
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 20: And it looks like it's been for a horse, you know, Ted,

1140
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 20: It looks like you should be giving by the horses.

1141
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 15: Did and do you see the size of it right there.

1142
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 20: It was just a massive and then you see the

1143
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 20: baby all of a sudden starting to change radically.

1144
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 16: I've seen it too many times.

1145
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 15: And then you hear that it doesn't have an impact.

1146
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 20: Right, but you want I talked about that a long

1147
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 20: time ago, and uh, anyway, I would be I wouldn't

1148
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 20: love you to do that, And then I think it

1149
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 20: would be so good for you and so big for you,

1150
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 20: and we're gonna win for god.

1151
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 23: You know what.

1152
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 15: Way ahead of the guy, and you know, he's interesting.

1153
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 5: It was very nice.

1154
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 9: Actually he called it and he said, how.

1155
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 10: Did you choose to move right?

1156
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: Just?

1157
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 23: You know, so I guess that.

1158
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 15: People said, you know, I was a I was looking

1159
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 15: straight up and he said I.

1160
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 6: I said, I was just showing it you.

1161
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 5: I didn't have to tell him.

1162
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 14: The shark was not all the people pouring into eventually.

1163
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 20: But but uh now, CON just turn my head to

1164
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 20: show the jar and something wrapped me. It sounds like

1165
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 20: a giant, like the world's archest mesquito.

1166
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 6: And it was it was a bullet, you know.

1167
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 19: Or something.

1168
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 20: That's a pretty pretty tough guy.

1169
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: He's drugged up. I know he's like that all the time.

1170
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 21: Well, I was just saying to Sam for my brother

1171
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 21: fell off his bike yesterday and he's in hospital on

1172
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 21: a morphine drip, right if he rang it out?

1173
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 15: So I had.

1174
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 21: We were having kind of a random conversation and over

1175
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 21: over WhatsApp on the family chat, right, they were getting

1176
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 21: some pretty random responses from him, and I just wondered, Yeah.

1177
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: I want to a bit of morphine involved there, and fluoride.

1178
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 15: They've talked about fluoride as well before.

1179
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: What I mean, one I'm actually interested in is whether

1180
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: RFK actually said anything at all where the Trump just

1181
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: wrings people up and somebody goes hello, and then for

1182
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: the ten fifteen minutes following he just tells some stories.

1183
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: But that's that's out of the last twenty four hours. RFK,

1184
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 2: by the ways, apologized that the videographer should have won,

1185
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 2: not been videoing to not posted it. So he apologizes

1186
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: to Trump for all that. Eleven away from.

1187
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: Its break visited with Bailey's real Estate news talks, it.

1188
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 2: Is seven away from a tributes of flying for Normal Heward,

1189
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: who died yesterday, of course, age fifty five, fighting motor

1190
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: neurone disease. Former All Black Mary All Black, Hurricane Wellington,

1191
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: hero of course, for most of his international career, he

1192
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: was head to head with the Shawn Fitzpatrick for that

1193
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: number two jumper. Shawn is wither us from Britain. Shawn

1194
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: morning to you morning, Mike. When you think of Norm Hewitt,

1195
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: what do you think of.

1196
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 8: I'm firstly, I'm very sad. It's been a very sad day,

1197
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 8: and I thoughts with him and his family. But my

1198
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 8: first thoughts that he was a great All Black, very

1199
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 8: loyal and Funnily enough, Mike, he got the best out

1200
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 8: of me because he was hugely competitive, a very good player.

1201
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 8: And as I said, he got the best out of me,

1202
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 8: that's for sure.

1203
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: How do you handle those scenarios when you know he's

1204
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: after your job and you've got his job, and how

1205
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: does he how did that relationship and vibe work?

1206
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 8: As I said, I have massive respect for him as

1207
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 8: an All Black. And you know, in the old days

1208
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 8: when we us go on two of the Wednesday players

1209
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 8: are trying to get on the Saturday team and the

1210
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 8: Saturday teams trying to keep the Wednesday player out brings

1211
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 8: out the best in both of us and Norm. Norm

1212
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 8: definitely did that. You know, I think back to ninety three, Mike,

1213
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 8: when we lost that second test in Wellington and norm

1214
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 8: was on fire and I was lucky enough to get

1215
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 8: another opportunity on the following Saturday. But he was a

1216
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 8: huge competitor, hugely passionate about the all black jersey and

1217
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 8: and that sort of relationship developed from ninety three and

1218
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 8: then we went on ninety four ninety five. He was

1219
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 8: He went to the World Cup and I think back

1220
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 8: to that where he started and against Japan, and Lorie

1221
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 8: Mains has said to me that he wanted me to play,

1222
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 8: and I said no, I said, it's an opportunity where

1223
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 8: Norms should start. This as a mark of respect for

1224
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 8: what he had done for the all back jersey.

1225
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: Fantastic. What did you make of an I know you followed,

1226
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 2: but what did you make of his turnaround of life

1227
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: post rugby and what he did for other people?

1228
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, huge admiration for what he did. He had some

1229
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 8: very difficult times and to turn that around and what

1230
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 8: he gave back was huge. And you know, to be

1231
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 8: to be settled with the motor neuron disease, which is

1232
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 8: just a horrible, horrible disease to have, and you know

1233
00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 8: the way he dealt with that, you know, and you

1234
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 8: know I was. I was fortunate enough to see his

1235
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 8: brother when I was down there in April and he

1236
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 8: told me we're enormous out and it's just you know,

1237
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 8: just tragic.

1238
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, without shifting gears to awkwardly the England's thing, we've

1239
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: just seen. What a great way to start the season.

1240
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: England were good. I thought England fantastic even they last twice.

1241
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, both, it's doing a good job. They're they're in

1242
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 8: good shape. We did we did well to beat them up.

1243
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 24: You know, it was a good good.

1244
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 23: Test for us.

1245
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 8: But they are definitely a team that you know this

1246
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 8: in this cycle, they'll be hugely competitive in three years

1247
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 8: four years time and when we head to Australia for

1248
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 8: the World Cup. But yeah, they're they're a good outfit.

1249
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 8: But a good test for us and and be interesting

1250
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 8: to see what happens in the autumn when they come

1251
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 8: up when the Audac's come up here to play them

1252
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 8: in that November test.

1253
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: Exactly good to catch up. I appreciate it very much.

1254
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: Shean Fitzpatrick with us from from Britain this morning. The

1255
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: sniff test aug In do the mic Hosking sniff test

1256
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: again this morning. There seems to be some consternation among

1257
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: some with Shane Jones and a dinner on the West

1258
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: coast and involving mining entities, and it wasn't in the diary.

1259
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: Then it was in the diary, and it was a

1260
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: last minute thing. Then it wasn't a last minute thing.

1261
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: Some people are finding themselves exercised about this this morning,

1262
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: and so we'll put this to the sniff test and

1263
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: see whether we've got a bubbling brewing scandal or not.

1264
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: Maybe do it in politics Wednesday, maybe not, see what

1265
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: the mood takes me. Oh, how to think about it

1266
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: during the news and let you know, Mark Mitchell Duncan,

1267
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: we're doing the business for you after the news, which

1268
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: is next.

1269
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers the Mic Hosking

1270
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently since

1271
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three used TOGSDB.

1272
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: We confuse you'll never guess in a millionaire. You see,

1273
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: this is come So I'm not going to play a

1274
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: silly game. This is serious business. This is evolved and

1275
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 2: the album is fish he Hi.

1276
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 21: So you've completely got there around the wrong way and

1277
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 21: really and this identified one of the most famous bands

1278
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 21: in the world.

1279
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: Actually say that it's interesting you should say that because

1280
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: this is there's sixteenth studio album. Correct, And I was

1281
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: going to say, in fact, indeed I will because this

1282
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: is my program. I've never heard of them, And is

1283
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: it unusual for a person never to have heard of

1284
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: a band that's done sixteen studio elves and say, well.

1285
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 21: I would say, if you've ever met an American or

1286
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 21: listened to anything American, there'll be somebody in that conversation

1287
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 21: who would say, like, oh, this is my favorite band.

1288
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 15: There's so much so that they're like a mean so

1289
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 15: anyway to say so an entire band is fish.

1290
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm just why they did sixteen of them, because the

1291
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: entire this one was made less than a week as

1292
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: a twelve track fifty six the glorious minutes of Wish

1293
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: Evolve the Volta. It is a bigger American apparently. Eight

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Speaker 2: minutes past eight. Time for politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with

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Speaker 2: us along with Duncan Web. Good morning to both of you. Now,

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Speaker 2: dunk and I believe this is your first time ever

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Speaker 2: on the program. Is that would this be immediately a

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Speaker 2: political highlight for you?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 22: So let's wait and find out, right, let's see how

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Speaker 22: we go.

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of it's in here, see the balls.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it's in your court. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, all I can do is wish you the

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Speaker 2: very best with it. Let's start with us, while start

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Speaker 2: with you, Duncan, Darlene Taner, what's your advice to her?

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Speaker 22: Pack your bags? Yeah, I mean she she wasn't voted

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Speaker 22: in as an electorate MP. No one actually voted for her.

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Speaker 22: She came in on the Green ticket. The Greens don't

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Speaker 22: want her. She shouldn't be an MP anymore. It's pretty

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Speaker 22: it's actually pretty simple. She's got no mandate and the

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Speaker 22: Greens have thrown her out and they're entitled to do that.

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Speaker 22: Had she been an electorately MP, it might have been

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Speaker 22: a little bit different. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 22: no one voted for you know, leave with dignity, find

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Speaker 22: something else to do.

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Speaker 2: What's your advice to Chloe then visa the walker jumping

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Speaker 2: if she has to use it.

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Speaker 22: Well, they've gotten themselves in a spot right because they've

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Speaker 22: fiercely opposed the walker jumping legislation before. Chloe hasn't been

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Speaker 22: front and center of that, and there has been a

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Speaker 22: significant change in leadership with her coming in. But you've

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Speaker 22: got to look ask at the Greens, if you know,

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Speaker 22: only a couple of years ago they were screaming blue

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Speaker 22: murder that this was a cravesty, and all of a

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Speaker 22: sudden they're dipping into the back pocket and getting out

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Speaker 22: the walker jumping legislation exactly.

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Speaker 2: So what's your advice, Mike.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, Dunton summed it up very well as a lawyer. Look,

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Speaker 14: I think she should have gone. I think she should

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Speaker 14: resigned for executive reasons that Duncan has outlined. And I

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Speaker 14: actually think, to be honest with you, I think Chloe's

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Speaker 14: ended quite well. But they are in a difficult position

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Speaker 14: around the jumping bill without a doubt, because they were

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Speaker 14: so vehement in their opposition to that.

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Speaker 2: How has she handled it well when one she hasn't

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Speaker 2: released the report or anything close to it, and b

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Speaker 2: she hasn't invoked the answer that she could have if

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Speaker 2: she wanted to invoke the answer.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think just initially, like she was very clear

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Speaker 14: about when she came out, you know, and sort of

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Speaker 14: dealt with the issue in her own comms. But yes,

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Speaker 14: I agree with you is there's got to be a

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Speaker 14: level of transparency around that. There's been a commitment to

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Speaker 14: releasing the report, or at least part of the report,

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Speaker 14: so you know, the expectation is that that has to

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Speaker 14: happen now. But they look they are in a difficult place.

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Speaker 14: Without a doubt, turn to the party if she chooses

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Speaker 14: to stay, or they're talking about maybe she could join

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Speaker 14: the party, Mary Party. I think that they're going to

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Speaker 14: have their only option open to them is too in

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Speaker 14: fact that what could jumping bill all right?

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Speaker 2: Second issue for you, dunk and then is the business

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Speaker 2: of Shane Jones and the dinner in the West Coast,

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Speaker 2: the sniff test, whether it should have been in the

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Speaker 2: ministerial diary, the fact that wasn't, Then it was, then

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Speaker 2: it was last minute, Then it wasn't. Do we have

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Speaker 2: a scandal here or not?

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Speaker 22: Oh well, it smells it smells dodgy to me. The

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Speaker 22: lack of transparency is a real concern. And the idea,

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Speaker 22: as you say, you know, it wasn't in the diary,

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Speaker 22: and then it was it was last minute. Oh no,

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Speaker 22: my officials organized it four days before. He knew he

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Speaker 22: was going to have dinner with those people. At some

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Speaker 22: point he certainly knew that he had dinner with them

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Speaker 22: and then for it not to appear in the diary,

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Speaker 22: you know, and it's really important who it was. It

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Speaker 22: wasn't some minor person with a grit. These are mining

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Speaker 22: lobbyists and they've got something to say and they want

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Speaker 22: to influence one of the ministers who has the most

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Speaker 22: power and respect of this and to suggest it was,

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Speaker 22: you know, it was just a few beers in a stake,

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Speaker 22: just doesn't cut it.

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Speaker 14: What do you reckon, Mike, There's an old sign that's

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Speaker 14: conspiracy or cockup, and it's normally a cockup and this

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Speaker 14: is that Josie's already come out and said yet but

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Speaker 14: it should have been in the diary. The diary has

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Speaker 14: been corrected, you know. But to be honest with that

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Speaker 14: label will be trying to make some sort of conspiracy

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Speaker 14: out of it that they know very well that it's

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Speaker 14: a moving place when you're a minister in terms of

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Speaker 14: meetings and things that can happen often on the run.

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Speaker 14: I've been out of the office for three days around

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Speaker 14: the country, things crop up. So as long as it

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Speaker 14: gets in the diary and it's recorded, which it has

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Speaker 14: to be ministerial accountability. But I think that absolutely it

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Speaker 14: would be more a cock up and conspiracy? Do you is?

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Speaker 2: It says here in the email that was sent out

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Speaker 2: from his office to the people to the dinner, it says,

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Speaker 2: this is an informal dinner and it would be appreciated

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Speaker 2: if you could pick up your share of the costs

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Speaker 2: of you attend. Is that standard practice?

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Speaker 14: Mark?

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Speaker 25: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I think it's probably a good practice for

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Speaker 14: stating very clearly that the minister and the text bar

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Speaker 14: is not going to be picking up the tet if

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Speaker 14: they want to take up the offer of a of

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Speaker 14: a meeting. It's probably it's not something that I've probably

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Speaker 14: done in emails, but you know, in some ways it's

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Speaker 14: probably a good idea and making it very clear that

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Speaker 14: test was not picking up the tab.

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Speaker 2: What about you, Duncan, when you invited all those consultants

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Speaker 2: on light rail? Did you pay well? Did they pay?

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Speaker 2: What happened there?

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Speaker 25: Well?

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Speaker 22: I wasn't a big one for having fancy dinners, But actually,

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Speaker 22: as I understand it, it's pretty common too if you

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Speaker 22: have a dinner like in particularly an informal one, not

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Speaker 22: some state occasion, to say, oh look at you know,

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Speaker 22: you pick up you know, pay your own way. I mean,

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Speaker 22: It is a good thing because a textplayer doesn't want

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Speaker 22: to be, you know, paying dinners of ministers in their

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Speaker 22: mates as they meet and talk about minding all.

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Speaker 2: Right, brief break more in the moment Duncan Where Mark

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Speaker 2: Mitchell thirteen past the Mike Hosking Breakfast, sixteen past eight

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Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday, Duncan webbing for Ginny Anderson this morning, Mike

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Speaker 2: Mitchell with us as well Duncan early feedback from the

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Speaker 2: text You interested in feedback?

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Speaker 13: You go on?

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll hear in his first recoming in more of Duncan.

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Speaker 2: Mike much better, Mike Duncan's far better than Ginny. Kicker

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Speaker 2: to the touch is Duncan web Actually from the Labor

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Speaker 2: Party seems to actually answer question straightened with some knowledge.

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Speaker 2: Surely not from the left.

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Speaker 13: There you go.

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Speaker 22: Oh, I said it was going to be a disaster.

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Speaker 22: I'm going to get thrown out of the Labor corc.

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Speaker 2: That we're a bigger caucus. Put it that way. Hey, Mark,

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Speaker 2: can I criticize you on this retail crime thing that

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Speaker 2: you announced while I was on holiday last week? Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's just dropped off. He's gone. How convenient did he

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Speaker 2: drop off? When I use the words. Can I criticize you? No,

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Speaker 2: he's back with us, Mark you with us.

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Speaker 14: Sorry, yes, sorry, I'm drawing to a podagain. I explained

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Speaker 14: to Sean that I just said to keep moving some

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Speaker 14: reading police like boys details for Sorry about that?

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Speaker 2: Nowheries at all? Well, I was going to say, this

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Speaker 2: advisory group on retail crime that you announced while I

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Speaker 2: was away on holiday two years to come up with

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Speaker 2: ideas on crime, give me a break. What's that about?

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Speaker 14: Well, it's just the reality is we felt was we

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Speaker 14: felt that was really important to the people that acum

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Speaker 14: the hebers hits. They have a threat and formal relationship

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Speaker 14: with the governor. They can do a whole lot of

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Speaker 14: work career in policies, and you know we're throwing the

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Speaker 14: kitchen sink and everything we can at getting on top

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Speaker 14: of the vinyl crime. I've got an important voice. Sonny

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Speaker 14: Kelshl himself has got so much energy in his own

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Speaker 14: time into being a strong voice and avocate and a

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Speaker 14: lot of work around policy as well. I just think

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Speaker 14: that's a very good move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Sunny Kersher is a very good move. But

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Speaker 2: he's already got the ideas because he's been banging on

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Speaker 2: about it for years, So it just it looks like

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Speaker 2: a classic government move whereby you set up a committee

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Speaker 2: for two years, you get your biggest critic to head it.

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Speaker 2: So he shuts up and he's on board, and it

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Speaker 2: looks like a jack up.

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Speaker 14: No, he's Look, there's certainly no expectation that he can't

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Speaker 14: criticize and hold the government to account. In fact, that's

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Speaker 14: part of the role of this board is to do

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Speaker 14: exactly that. And I think that yes, he has developed

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Speaker 14: some good policy that needs a lot of refine. It

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Speaker 14: needs a lot of work because we're in really difficult,

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Speaker 14: sensitive areas, but we have to do something, and we

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Speaker 14: felt that it was really important that people are getting

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Speaker 14: hammers put through the head on front line. They've actually

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Speaker 14: recognized and actually got a formal way to engage with

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Speaker 14: the government.

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Speaker 2: The size of Duncan, I mean it sets up. I

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Speaker 2: mean the story yesterday retailer is the impact of more

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Speaker 2: officers on patrol in the Auckland CBD. It seems to

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Speaker 2: be working well.

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Speaker 22: The working group retail crime is tough, right, we learned that,

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Speaker 22: we learned it the hard way. Setting up a two

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Speaker 22: year working group isn't actually addressing the issue. Itself and

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Speaker 22: a two year timeline.

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Speaker 25: It's I mean, it must be.

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Speaker 22: It's almost insulting to the retailers, right, So hang around,

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Speaker 22: we'll get some advice in two years time and get

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Speaker 22: back to you.

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean very happy.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's not, it's not. It's not too long. It's

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Speaker 14: not two years timeline because advice and advice will be

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Speaker 14: coming and working straight away. And I just think if

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Speaker 14: you get out there and you talk to the retailers,

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Speaker 14: they will be very clear with you, and they'll tell

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Speaker 14: you they support this, especially the shopkeepers are on the

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Speaker 14: front line, don't talk to people and of course had

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Speaker 14: a hammer fut thro us. Yet you know, a few

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Speaker 14: weeks ago you're telling you police supported of this.

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Speaker 22: We certainly agree. We certainly agree that the voice us

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Speaker 22: and the people who are on the receiving end of

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Speaker 22: these crimes is really important. But a working group is

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Speaker 22: you know, we're we're skeyptical, but you know, good luck

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Speaker 22: if it makes progress, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 14: I'm not sure why you're skiptical living groups because you've

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Speaker 14: got a bit of.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah yeah, but I'm skeptical, Mark, and I never

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Speaker 2: set up a working group in my life.

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Speaker 14: No, and I get this, So I guess we'll just

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Speaker 14: have to prove that this is actually a very proven

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Speaker 14: move in terms of formalizing your relationship to come up

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Speaker 14: with the people the front line.

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Speaker 22: But it's just really it's really unclear what particular policing

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Speaker 22: or justice strategies this working group has come up with. Yes,

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Speaker 22: the voice is victims is important, but you know what,

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Speaker 22: do you think.

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Speaker 25: What are they going to come?

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Speaker 14: Don't diminish, don't demostictapability to develop policies.

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Speaker 2: Don't they development a question? I mean, we know what

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01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: the problem with retail crime. As Sonny Kershel has been

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Speaker 2: on this program dozens of times. He's got the answers,

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: you know, use the power of a risk, gives security

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: guards more power, all of those sort of things. It's

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: not like we're in a science lab trying to find

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Speaker 2: some sort of solution. We know what the solutions are.

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01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: Get tougher, put people in jail, crack down.

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Speaker 14: Let's wat job with the police and portfolio. And that's

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 14: exactly what I'm doing. But there's a lot of roots

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 14: to be done around working with the retail sector, with

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01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 14: the security industry. There's a lot of rooks to be done.

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 14: Around legislation at policy and they need to be part

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Speaker 14: of it, a formalized voice as part of it.

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Speaker 2: Duncan have you read Richard Prebble's article in the Herald

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Speaker 2: this morning.

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Speaker 25: I haven't managed to read that.

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01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 22: You have to give me a synopsis.

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Speaker 2: Okay. The headline is can Barbara Edmonds save labor? Question mark?

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 13: Can she? Oh?

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:46,839
Speaker 22: It's fantastic and she's got an amazing ability to capture

1534
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 22: things in a nutshell. She's got huge skills around the

1535
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 22: finance portfolio. But you know, the job of putting labor

1536
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 22: back into government as a job for every single MPM.

1537
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 22: We've all got a job to do. It's a team effort, right,

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Speaker 22: But Barber's going to do a fantastic job.

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Speaker 2: It is premised on the idea you need to shovel

1540
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 2: hipkins along the way. What do you reckon?

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 23: Look?

1542
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 22: I think Chippy's doing a great job. He's understood that

1543
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,919
Speaker 22: we lost the last election. We've got to have a reset.

1544
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 22: And you know, one of the challenges now is that

1545
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 22: we're not coming out and saying here's the answers one, two, three,

1546
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 22: because we've been told that we didn't have the answers

1547
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 22: and we've got to find some new ones. So that's

1548
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 22: what we're all doing. We're all traveling around the country

1549
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 22: talking to people and developing new policies and which are

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 22: going to address these big issues that we've been talking about.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I appreciate your time very much. Duncle Mark,

1552
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: you're in that particular part of the world. Have you

1553
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: got more announcements coming today? And leads Kate Wairau or

1554
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: all of that or what.

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Speaker 14: No, I'm down, I'm meeting with you, we leaders. But

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Speaker 14: on first meetings with the police because we had the

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01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 14: Mungol mob turn into Rolling Down a few weeks ago

1558
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 14: and the police ran a very good operation and made

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Speaker 14: sure that they let the town know that the police

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01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 14: are rouwing the place. I've got the Mungol mob because

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Speaker 14: the last time they did it, storms were closed and

1562
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 14: there's all sorts of efficts. So I'm thesa thank you

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Speaker 14: to thank you to them good they're doing in the

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Speaker 14: ward at least all.

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Speaker 2: Right, can't you can't argue with the fact he doesn't

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Speaker 2: get out and about Mark Mitchell duncan web follow six

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Speaker 2: reasons beyond me. Outside of this program, I've seen no

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Speaker 2: coverage at all of the CFM EU scandal and it

1592
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Speaker 2: is a scandal, make no mistake about it. That's unfolding

1593
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Speaker 2: as we speak in Australia. We touched on it on

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Speaker 2: Monday with Steve. It's blown up major in the last

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Speaker 2: couple of days. So we'll get the update for you

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Speaker 1: Next your trusted source for news and fews, the Mic

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Speaker 2: Mike wants a story about senior health and safety investigator

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Speaker 2: with the White Island Helicopters reportsmen disregarded. Is funny you

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01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: could say that column because I think TB three had

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01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: that story yesterday. And I don't know whether it's the

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01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: increasing segregation of the marketplace in this country given all

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: the problems we've gotten media, but increasingly I'm following a

1605
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 2: number of stories that don't get followed up by anybody else.

1606
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: In other words, you have to be in the right

1607
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 2: place at the right time to see the story. So

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: this guy's Paul Patterson, as the person you refer to,

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01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: felt the prosecution have been predetermined, lost faith and work

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: Safe and later resign and the suggestion being, and I

1611
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: said it on the program for the last couple of years,

1612
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: that what work Safe did was wrong. They literally scatter

1613
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: gun charges all over the place to all and sundry

1614
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: not in a We've looked exhaustively into your role into

1615
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: this particular tragedy, and we've decided that you need to answer.

1616
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 2: It was just like you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

1617
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: and you. You can all have charges and we'll go

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01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: to court and see. And what they didn't seem to

1619
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: be cognizant of is that you ruin people's lives by

1620
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: doing that. And we all know what happened ultimately, and

1621
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: that has very few people got found guilty. A lot

1622
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: of people plead guilty, And I've often asked this question.

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 2: Did you plead guilty because your lawyer said, look, it's

1624
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: easy to get the hell out of here and just

1625
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: plead guilty and go or because you genuinely believed you

1626
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: were guilty. And then there were the people who had

1627
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: the charges dropped. And it's good that people this closely

1628
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: involved in it are asking those questions because I think

1629
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: there should have been some sort of inquiry as to

1630
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: how they handled it. In other words, work Safe did

1631
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: all the blame and didn't take a lot of the

1632
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: blame themselves, and they should have. Twenty two minutes away.

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Speaker 4: From nine International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, peace

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Speaker 4: of mind for New Zealand business in Australia state.

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Speaker 2: Last, very good money to you tell you what this

1636
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: cf em a thing? I mean the bloke who got

1637
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: pinged and is gone and what's unfolded in the last

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01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 2: forty eight hours since we last talked, I find us astonishing.

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: Is it as astonishing in Australia or not. We all

1640
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 2: knew what was going on and it was that, But

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 2: that's what I find astonishing.

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Speaker 17: Well, when I say we, the Labor Party, certainly state

1643
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 17: branches of the Labor Party and probably even federal Labor

1644
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 17: knew that this union was pulling on corruption. I mean,

1645
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 17: it's just historical. I've written about it in columns forever,

1646
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 17: but no one ever did anything about it until this

1647
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 17: nine newspaper sixty minutes Australia Investigation. What they did is

1648
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 17: classical journalism, Mike. They pulled it all together. I mean

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01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 17: there were strands, hears, strands there, things happening in Melbourne,

1650
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 17: things happening in Sydney, and they put it all together.

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01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 17: They did a tremendous job on it, and they've just

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 17: splashed it out there with pictures, including today a new

1653
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 17: vision from a police camera hidden in a ceiling of

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Speaker 17: the cfmu's Sydney office. Now, this is allegedly captured the

1655
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 17: New South Wales construction boss Darren Greenfield. I mean, this

1656
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 17: is straight out of a Hollywood movie being cast. A

1657
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 17: five bundle of cash, five thousand dollars under a table. Now,

1658
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 17: this was a suspected kickback deal traded for union backing.

1659
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 17: It was filmed in June twenty twenty, so it's historical.

1660
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 17: As I said, it's been going on forever. Appears to

1661
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 17: show a building company owner seeking union support. What does

1662
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 17: that mean?

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 22: It says, well, you some.

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Speaker 17: Money where you make sure your union makes look after

1665
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 17: me while we're building this block of flats And then

1666
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 17: I'm paraphrasing there, but that's what it means. Ten minutes later,

1667
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 17: the camera captures images of this Greenfield character allegedly putting

1668
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 17: that cash in his desk draw Now it was part

1669
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 17: of our joint New South Wales Police an AFP investigation.

1670
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 17: He was charged in September twenty twenty one. Those charges

1671
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 17: are still pending. They haven't been tested before the courts.

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Speaker 17: His son, Michael Greenfield is the CFM he used assistant secretary.

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 17: He was also charged. Now these people are still in

1674
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 17: those positions and even though the head of the act

1675
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 17: US said on Monday anyone charged should stand down pending

1676
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 17: the examination of those charges, that's not happened now. The

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01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 17: Premiere of Victoria just Sinta Allen, who was married to

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01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 17: an excf YOU member. She was in charge of all

1679
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 17: of those big build projects where the union had their

1680
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 17: fingers stuck all over them, and it goes all to

1681
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 17: the Federal ALP because of the dollar cash donations that

1682
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 17: they have taken over the.

1683
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Speaker 2: Year exactly so you get so the letter directors of

1684
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: an indigenous labor higher firm they write to just cin

1685
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: to Ellen when she's Victoria's infrastructure Minister. They wait a year,

1686
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: she doesn't reply. In the ensuing period they get frustrated

1687
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: and send it off to elbow. Elba doesn't reply. I mean,

1688
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 2: how donkey deep are the Labor Party.

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Speaker 17: In this I know it's just extraordinary and the Premier

1690
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 17: has come out twice in our Day one she was

1691
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 17: sort of thinking about, you know, scanning people down. Day two,

1692
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 17: she's launched some sort of investigation. This will go nowhere.

1693
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 17: It'll end up being like the examination to what Daniel

1694
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 17: Andrews did during COVID. People won't remember what happened and

1695
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,520
Speaker 17: you know it'll cost me. We've had two Royal commissions

1696
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 17: into the trade union movement in general in this country

1697
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 17: under the Howard government and then under the Morrison government,

1698
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 17: which costs millions of dollars, and nothing ever happened.

1699
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: You lie, Is that in part why Dutton and the

1700
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: Coalition did what they did yesterday in the polls? Is

1701
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: this a culmination of stuff that's banking up against the government.

1702
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 17: It's probably more to do with cost of living and

1703
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 17: the debate over renewable energy, in whether going all renewables

1704
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 17: will keep the lights on. I think that's probably the situation.

1705
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 17: The Labor primary vote, That's that's the key here. It's

1706
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 17: down to twenty eight percent and you can't win an

1707
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 17: election with the primary vote of twenty eight percent, even

1708
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 17: with our preferential voting system, Labor and the coalition of

1709
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 17: fifty to fifty and fifty five percent of people say

1710
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 17: cost of living is the main issue, and thirty percent

1711
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 17: of people piled in that result poll. So they're paying

1712
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 17: more a month than they're actually earning. Now that's a

1713
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 17: frightening statistic in any country.

1714
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,839
Speaker 2: Having said that, Elbow can't go early on twenty eight, Kenny.

1715
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,520
Speaker 17: He can't. And so you know, I know I flippedlop

1716
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 17: on this, but it's increasingly looking like the old adage

1717
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 17: you only go to an election when you think you

1718
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 17: can win it. I don't think they can win it

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Speaker 17: on twenty eight. I don't think they can win it

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01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 17: with a pending interest rate rise. And so we might

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01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 17: be now looking at sometime next May.

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Speaker 2: Exactly do you reckon Jack Black was really blindsided or

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01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: do you think that's just the best he can do

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01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 2: in a very difficult set of circumstances.

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Speaker 17: He wasn't blind sided him. And you look at the

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01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,839
Speaker 17: vision this bloke, Kyle gas Gas is a very appropriate

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01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 17: surname for him. Easy one who said, you know, I

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01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 17: don't miss Trump next time? And Jack Black laughs, So

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 17: the Newcastle concert was postponed yesterday. Now we know the

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01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,839
Speaker 17: whole tour has been canceled. Jack's going, Oh, it's terrible,

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01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 17: It's horrible. We should never have said this. I don't

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 17: endorse hate speech. I mean, please give me a bloat break.

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 17: The bloke was one of the kyaks at a Joe

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Speaker 17: Biden fundraising event where George Clooney organized a few weeks ago.

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01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 17: I mean, the sooner Jack Black and his mate Gas

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Speaker 17: get out of the country, the better will.

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Speaker 2: All be see next week? Make Phil steep Price out

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Speaker 2: of Australia. This morning, I am speaking of music in

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01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 2: the middle of reading articles handed to me by Glenn

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01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: who's at headline. How did Fish become so popular? What

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: kind of person pays to see the band Fish one

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01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty times? So I'm more on that for

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01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: you in just a couple of moments. Sixteen to two,

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01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: the Myke hosting Rexfast thirteen away from nine. By the way,

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01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: can I recommend I assume they'll replay it because it

1746
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 2: was on Sky Television Australia and I watched it yesterday

1747
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: and it was a sort of a celebration of the

1748
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 2: Australian Newspaper sixtieth anniversary, started of course by Murdoch sixty

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01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: years ago, is now ninety three. And he looks I

1750
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: was looking at him. Was being interviewed was the point

1751
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 2: of it. And he's very rarely interviewed these days. And

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01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: he looked to my eye pretty much every one of

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01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 2: the ninety three years. He's very well groomed, obviously, but

1754
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with his voice. And I'm not sure

1755
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 2: whether he had a Joe Biden esque type I've been

1756
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: on a plane, jet lag cold type voice or whether

1757
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: he's losing his voice. Anyways, at times he was pretty

1758
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: difficult to understand what he was saying. But one of

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01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: the artworkings, apart from going through the history of the

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01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: Australian newspaper, which is sort of interesting if you follow media,

1761
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: he reckons newspapers have got fifteen years left at best,

1762
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: with a lot of luck. He says, fifteen years and

1763
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: no one, no one knows newspapers better than Rupert Murdock,

1764
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: with the side with them politically or not. So how

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01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 2: do fish become so popular? They're one of the bands.

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01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 2: According to the article by Mark Runyon of concert tour

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01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: dot Org, one of the bands who seem to hold

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 2: fans in a trance with no hits on the radio. See,

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01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 2: that's my problem. I'm a hit man, I'm a go

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01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: to hits guy, and so they got no hits on

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01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: the radio. They never had a hit.

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01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, I just looked up our system here, you know

1773
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 15: where we have who plays? Who plays all the music

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01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 15: on all our stations?

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01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who not?

1776
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: So found their fame entirely through the Fish sanctioned exchanging.

1777
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 2: The bootleg tapes in the eighties often been compared to

1778
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 2: the Grateful Dead in terms of their place in popular culture.

1779
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: Laid back yet rabid fan base. That's what you want

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 2: to be, you want to be rabbit. And yet at

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01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: the same time.

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01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 15: I believe they referred to as fishheads in the same

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01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 15: way that Great Pool did. Fans are dead heads.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's pretty difficult to settle on one genre for

1785
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,759
Speaker 2: the It's right, it's not even impossible, says Mark Runian

1786
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: Top concert to a bottle?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, what would you call this.

1788
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 16: In in a Viking?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: I think what kind of person plays to see the

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01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: band fish one hundred and fifty times? That was an article.

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01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: Another article, this one written by armand Rosen. But it's

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01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: not an article You've given me a Glenn twenty nineteen,

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01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: so it gives a context. I suppose this is there

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01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: is a photo of a fishhead outside Hampton Coliseum in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, Hampton, Virginia. He appears to be naked,

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01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: but I.

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Speaker 15: Had to know. I mean, the photo only goes down

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01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 15: to it does go quite and it goes right now.

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01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 2: It goes down far enough to think he's got no

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01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: pants off. He's holding a cup of drink. He's holding

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01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: a sign and need tickets please. And he's got a

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01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 2: moose hat on and sunglasses, very poor sunglasses, sort of

1804
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: dirty dog sunglasses and a moose hat. And he's got

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01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: a sign saying need tickets please. And on the other

1806
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: hand he's got a cup which maybe to he may

1807
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: be homeless and he's collecting money at the same time,

1808
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 2: or he maybe it's the thirsty I don't know. Anyway.

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01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 2: The man from whom I bought my ticket had seen

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01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: fisho over one hundred and fifty times. Encouragingly enough, he

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01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: was an excellent physical shape and had a business and

1812
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: a wife and multiple kids who were spending the rainy

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01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: closing hours of twenty eighteen, a safe and conspicuous distance

1814
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: from Madison Square gup. So in otherwise, what he's trying

1815
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: to tell you as they're normal, although they appear not

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01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 2: to be normal, they are normal there.

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01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 15: I mean they're playing medicine squeare Garden.

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01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 2: So doesn't everybody doesn't everybody nine minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar News togs eNB good

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01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: news and bad news.

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Speaker 2: The good news is in New Zealand got a very

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01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 2: good review. I'm always interested in international reviews of Air

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01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: New Zealand service because it's outside eyes looking in. So

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01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: this was a flight from and if you take this flight,

1825
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: by the way out of Australia, you fly from Australia

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01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: to Auckland. Auckland to New York. New York is a

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01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 2: very long way away, so you're talking eighteen nineteen hours

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01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: worth of flying. Anyway, this person was writing the Sydney

1829
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: Morning Herald yesterday gave them five out of five stars,

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01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: and you think this is incredible. But I'll come back

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01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: to the bad part of it in a moment. I've

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01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 2: never flown with a crew who seemed to enjoy their

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01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: job more than this particular crew, So that's it. I mean,

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: you can't ask for more than that, can you. And

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01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: so so for all the criticism of in New Zealand

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01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: gets and I noticed Greg Fornan was quoted yesterday as saying,

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01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: some of their delays and all that sort of stuff

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01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 2: need to be tidied up and sort it out. And

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: I get all of that, but there are people from

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01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 2: outside and who suggest that they are the best in

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01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: the business at what they do. But then having said that,

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01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: this person, Utta Yunka, gave the airline five out of five,

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01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 2: but she was done graded from Australia because the plane

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01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 2: that she was supposed to be on wasn't because they

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01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: swapped the plane out, so there's no premium economy for her.

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01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: So how it remains five out of five. The entertainment

1847
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: was okay, her starter on the plane wasn't that good,

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01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 2: but it was all right. So with all of that,

1849
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: is that still I mean, you know, a come old

1850
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: five out of five is perfect. So when you're downgraded

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01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: and the food wasn't that all that flash, that's no

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01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 2: longer perfect. Give it four if you want, because the

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01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: service was so fantastic. I don't care. But it's not

1854
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: five out of five. Do you believe reviews on planes?

1855
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 2: I mean, because half these people fly for free anyway,

1856
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 2: It's not like they work like the rest of us

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01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: and pay for it all. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy.

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01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: All year's really famous for, isn't it the service anthem performance?

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01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: I've got a good anthem for you this morning. This

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01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: is Ingrid Andress, who's doing the world of country music,

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01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 2: a world of fun, power of good. She's at the

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01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: baseball home run derby yesterday and she does.

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01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 15: This good broad shape so.

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01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 6: Bad for the pairs, fine, oh the re but we

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01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 6: we're so gays.

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 4: And yet's.

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01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: That's that partly the pison.

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01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:10,799
Speaker 26: Say yaprol do the night lot of flags?

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01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: Don't go there, don't go there. So she of course

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01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 2: was drunk.

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01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 26: Oh saysto spread.

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01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: She's going for the high lights again?

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01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 19: Or there?

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01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 2: Was she going to go for the high lights of

1876
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 2: the f Was she feeling good when she did in Europe?

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01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 23: A see?

1878
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: Do you think she was saying to herself, I am

1879
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: annahiling this or anyway this morning in what could well

1880
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: be in overreaction. I don't know she's said, well, she's

1881
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: obviously apologized to the people, and she's checked herself into rehab.

1882
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: So it's one thing to have a couple too many

1883
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 2: and just cock up the national anthem, but it's it's

1884
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 2: to say I'm off to rehab as sort of kind

1885
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 2: of like Jack Black saying I was completely taken aback

1886
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 2: and I didn't see any of that coming, isn't it?

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01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:18,879
Speaker 2: But that showers for your folks. Back tomorrow morning at six.

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01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,719
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