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Speaker 1: So new data out shows increasing violence in our schools.

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Speaker 1: By December the fifth, there had been twelve three hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty six standdowns, suspensions or expulsions this year for

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Speaker 1: physical assault and that's up nearly fifty percent on twenty nineteen. Andy,

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Speaker 1: England is Darfield High School principle Then with US High Andy, Well, no, no, now, Heather,

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Speaker 1: what is going on here that the kids can't regulate

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Speaker 1: their emotions?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a big question. But I think we have

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Speaker 2: to remember that violence has always been with us. It's

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Speaker 2: not a new phenomenon. There are anecdotically, odsay, I've seen

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Speaker 2: changes in the nature of it, a few big fights,

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Speaker 2: more dysregulated sort of tantrums and lashing out.

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Speaker 1: And what's causing that.

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Speaker 2: There's a known increase in neurodiversity. I can't say that's

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Speaker 2: all of it, of course, I think society has become

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Speaker 2: a bit less tolerant, and that's god part of it

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Speaker 2: as well. Schools are quite tense place at that time.

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Speaker 2: But the neurodiverse is really interesting one because I certainly

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Speaker 2: haven't seen the researcher's why it's increasing, but certainly classrooms

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Speaker 2: would seem to be quite neurodiverse places nowadays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, is it possible, Andy, that it

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Speaker 1: is a result of the kind of parenting that we

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Speaker 1: are increasingly doing at the moment, which is gentle instead

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Speaker 1: of you know, full of consequences.

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Speaker 2: As far as I can tell, that the consequence of

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Speaker 2: violent behaf parenting is actually more violent kids. So it's

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Speaker 2: certainly neglecting parenting very much so so parents who leave

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Speaker 2: kids in front of devices as opposed to engaging with them.

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Speaker 2: That's very much part of problems that we see. And

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Speaker 2: then you can't rule out the cliche thing. It seems

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Speaker 2: like we've blamed all the time, but devices are a problem,

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Speaker 2: and there are social media trends around violence, and they

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Speaker 2: would spark some of the more sort of more organized

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Speaker 2: fights at times and the more organized assaults that we've seen.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of their actual lashing out type behavior,

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Speaker 2: you can't rule out exposure to violence and making it

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Speaker 2: seem acceptable. But yeah, I certainly that the neglect of

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Speaker 2: kids most most of your nerd neurodiversity in schools is

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Speaker 2: where kids are struggling to manage their emotions and feelings.

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Speaker 2: And there are some glimmers of hope, there are some

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Speaker 2: things we can do about.

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Speaker 1: It, like taking the devices away.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that helps, but I mean it's not if

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Speaker 2: you're just take them away in school. That's only sort

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Speaker 2: of one third of the problem, isn't it. And I'd

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Speaker 2: fant to say listen to that because most of the

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Speaker 2: problems happened at one o'clock in the morning, when they're

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Speaker 2: nowhere near us. No, I mean more things like the

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Speaker 2: setting a culture in the school of tolerance, number understanding,

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Speaker 2: but also support having teachers well informed. That The argument

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Speaker 2: from some I think was a union about having teach

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Speaker 2: trades and classes. An expensive solution, but a very amazing

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Speaker 2: solution if we could achieve that. Certainly, there are things

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Speaker 2: at the other end, like services academies, which we've only

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Speaker 2: got twenty eight I believe of them in the country.

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Speaker 2: They're amazing for students who have violent tendencies, removing them

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Speaker 2: from mainstream classes were given them a very purposeful existence

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Speaker 2: where their tendencies are to be violent. Dropped down, All right.

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Speaker 1: Andy, thank you appreciate it. That's Andy England Daffield High

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