1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks B. 3 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:15,387 Speaker 2: As we do this time on a Sunday afternoon, we 4 00:00:15,387 --> 00:00:18,387 Speaker 2: welcome James mcconi into Weekend Sport Afternoon. 5 00:00:18,467 --> 00:00:22,627 Speaker 3: James Afternoon. Elliot ET. 6 00:00:24,347 --> 00:00:30,627 Speaker 2: Great movie, great movie, absolutely named after Elliott from ET incidentally, 7 00:00:30,827 --> 00:00:35,187 Speaker 2: which I think I've told you before. In PC final yesterday, 8 00:00:35,427 --> 00:00:36,067 Speaker 2: how good was that? 9 00:00:37,507 --> 00:00:40,387 Speaker 3: Unbelievable? Wait a second, Wait a second, have you done 10 00:00:40,387 --> 00:00:43,347 Speaker 3: your full disclosure of where or from Elliott? Because yeah, 11 00:00:43,427 --> 00:00:46,427 Speaker 3: it was. It was a great occasion. Yea, where are 12 00:00:46,427 --> 00:00:48,147 Speaker 3: you from there? Right now? 13 00:00:48,187 --> 00:00:51,467 Speaker 2: I am from the Canterbury region that is the NPC 14 00:00:51,667 --> 00:00:53,587 Speaker 2: champions as of yesterday. There we go done. 15 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:57,387 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, it was nice and we witness the suffocation, 16 00:00:57,587 --> 00:01:00,307 Speaker 3: that's what it was. You know, Canterbury Sports and their 17 00:01:00,387 --> 00:01:03,707 Speaker 3: defense were impressive and actually a few times they throw 18 00:01:03,747 --> 00:01:06,267 Speaker 3: it through the ball wide at work, so you can 19 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:09,827 Speaker 3: unfaulted really in terms of winning finals. That region know 20 00:01:09,947 --> 00:01:12,907 Speaker 3: exactly what they're doing and they stuck to their knitting. Really, 21 00:01:13,267 --> 00:01:16,827 Speaker 3: even though it was a sunny day, they assessed the 22 00:01:16,867 --> 00:01:20,867 Speaker 3: conditions and that wind. The Otago team should have made 23 00:01:20,907 --> 00:01:23,107 Speaker 3: more of it, but in the middle of the first half. 24 00:01:23,267 --> 00:01:27,067 Speaker 3: I think Otago had thirty phases and didn't go anywhere 25 00:01:27,147 --> 00:01:31,587 Speaker 3: and that was pivotal because they couldn't amassed enough points 26 00:01:31,587 --> 00:01:34,147 Speaker 3: with that win. And even Thomas Umunger Jetson, who gave 27 00:01:34,187 --> 00:01:36,307 Speaker 3: a beautiful interview at the end of the game to 28 00:01:36,707 --> 00:01:40,267 Speaker 3: Taylor Johnson on Sky where he's in tears but basically 29 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:43,947 Speaker 3: giving that exact analysis, which is they were just shut 30 00:01:43,987 --> 00:01:45,427 Speaker 3: out of the game at a critical time. 31 00:01:45,787 --> 00:01:46,307 Speaker 1: They weren't. 32 00:01:46,747 --> 00:01:48,787 Speaker 2: I just love the occasion though, the noise from the 33 00:01:48,827 --> 00:01:51,067 Speaker 2: Otago fans that had made their way up. It was 34 00:01:51,107 --> 00:01:53,867 Speaker 2: four o'clock, the weather played ball apart from a little 35 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:56,467 Speaker 2: bit of wind as well. It just made you love 36 00:01:56,507 --> 00:01:58,107 Speaker 2: the NPC and what it stands for. 37 00:01:58,987 --> 00:02:00,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, that it was just so nice, wasn't it just 38 00:02:00,747 --> 00:02:05,427 Speaker 3: seeing that festival atmosphere that I mean, look, let's talk 39 00:02:05,427 --> 00:02:08,987 Speaker 3: about it now, Larry the Lamb winning the mascot race. 40 00:02:09,107 --> 00:02:12,187 Speaker 3: There needs to be an investigation. Get Jeff Twovy on 41 00:02:12,227 --> 00:02:15,467 Speaker 3: it because he was a rapid and I have it 42 00:02:15,507 --> 00:02:17,867 Speaker 3: on good authority that he's actually a sprinter. I thought 43 00:02:17,867 --> 00:02:21,227 Speaker 3: it might be Tim Welton, you know, New Zealand's fastest man. 44 00:02:21,747 --> 00:02:25,787 Speaker 3: Underneath the Larry's mask, but it was it was a 45 00:02:25,827 --> 00:02:28,947 Speaker 3: sprinter who plays in the local under eighty five's competition. 46 00:02:29,107 --> 00:02:32,107 Speaker 3: So look this, we haven't hear the end of this, 47 00:02:32,227 --> 00:02:34,987 Speaker 3: and I'm hoping that new Stalks at be that you've 48 00:02:34,987 --> 00:02:38,147 Speaker 3: got your best journalists on this, because that was If 49 00:02:38,187 --> 00:02:40,507 Speaker 3: anyone saw that mascot race, he won it in. 50 00:02:40,587 --> 00:02:45,467 Speaker 2: A cantor just another title for Canterbury. I've got Tony 51 00:02:45,467 --> 00:02:48,107 Speaker 2: small On, who's the Canterbury Rugby Union chief executive, so 52 00:02:48,107 --> 00:02:50,107 Speaker 2: I'll put that to him after two o'clock and see 53 00:02:50,107 --> 00:02:52,507 Speaker 2: if we can get to the bottom of that, because boy, 54 00:02:52,587 --> 00:02:53,427 Speaker 2: he showed some toe. 55 00:02:54,427 --> 00:02:57,107 Speaker 3: Maybe before we move on from rugby, I just wanted 56 00:02:57,107 --> 00:02:59,907 Speaker 3: to say Dylan Pledger, who is the young up and 57 00:02:59,907 --> 00:03:01,947 Speaker 3: coming halfback. I felt for him because he sort of 58 00:03:01,947 --> 00:03:05,067 Speaker 3: did all his core roles really well for Otago, but 59 00:03:05,147 --> 00:03:07,587 Speaker 3: he probably just didn't run en up and that is 60 00:03:07,947 --> 00:03:10,227 Speaker 3: it's a bit like having someone with that with the 61 00:03:10,787 --> 00:03:14,187 Speaker 3: acceleration of Reese Walsh and not seeing them really chance 62 00:03:14,227 --> 00:03:16,827 Speaker 3: their arm and it's tough for him, but one of 63 00:03:16,867 --> 00:03:19,027 Speaker 3: those games where he'll learn a lot from that, so 64 00:03:19,227 --> 00:03:22,987 Speaker 3: you know. And also shayfe Hackey, come on six ft 65 00:03:22,987 --> 00:03:25,307 Speaker 3: four runs like the wind kicks goals. He needs to 66 00:03:25,307 --> 00:03:27,147 Speaker 3: work out whether he wants to sit behind the All 67 00:03:27,147 --> 00:03:30,827 Speaker 3: Blacks or make himself available for Fiji or Tonga. Because 68 00:03:31,267 --> 00:03:33,267 Speaker 3: he has Test match. 69 00:03:33,107 --> 00:03:35,907 Speaker 2: Potential, he does it. I like the high potential in 70 00:03:35,947 --> 00:03:38,067 Speaker 2: the way that rugby's going at the moment in test rugby. 71 00:03:38,067 --> 00:03:40,787 Speaker 2: Speaking of All Blacks in Ireland in Chicago this time 72 00:03:40,867 --> 00:03:43,667 Speaker 2: next week or nine o'clock next week, what are you 73 00:03:43,987 --> 00:03:45,947 Speaker 2: expecting out of that? You've been to Chicago. 74 00:03:45,627 --> 00:03:48,227 Speaker 3: Before, Yes, so I'm expecting you and I will have 75 00:03:48,267 --> 00:03:50,667 Speaker 3: a beer, maybe go to comedy club or something Elliott. 76 00:03:50,747 --> 00:03:54,227 Speaker 3: But I also think that Ireland are hoping for an ambush, 77 00:03:54,267 --> 00:03:57,787 Speaker 3: but their plans have been thwarted somewhat. Big Lock Joe 78 00:03:57,867 --> 00:04:03,667 Speaker 3: McCarthy is out. Mack Hanson, the very versatile winger Australian 79 00:04:03,867 --> 00:04:06,627 Speaker 3: is out as well. Bundy RK and Robbie Henay sure 80 00:04:06,627 --> 00:04:09,747 Speaker 3: are doubtful. So this is the issue for them is 81 00:04:09,907 --> 00:04:13,027 Speaker 3: coming over sort of mid season really, So the All 82 00:04:13,067 --> 00:04:15,787 Speaker 3: Blacks are in a really good position and I think 83 00:04:15,787 --> 00:04:18,987 Speaker 3: the team that played in Perth should get a start. 84 00:04:19,147 --> 00:04:21,787 Speaker 3: Maybe Caleb Clark comes back for finding the nuku just 85 00:04:21,787 --> 00:04:24,827 Speaker 3: because of that, you know, the constant aerial threat of 86 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:28,587 Speaker 3: Test rugby. But how are you feeling about that as well? 87 00:04:28,667 --> 00:04:31,227 Speaker 2: Elliott, I think you're right. I think I'd roll out 88 00:04:31,267 --> 00:04:33,747 Speaker 2: the same team again. I don't see too many reasons 89 00:04:33,787 --> 00:04:36,947 Speaker 2: to change necessarily the obviously two povi's gone for the 90 00:04:37,027 --> 00:04:40,067 Speaker 2: season to who's not there, so maybe there's a tweak 91 00:04:40,107 --> 00:04:41,627 Speaker 2: that needs to be made to the bench. Do you 92 00:04:41,667 --> 00:04:44,587 Speaker 2: look at a Dowry potentially off the bench or a 93 00:04:44,587 --> 00:04:48,107 Speaker 2: female to cover lock six? Will be interesting, but I 94 00:04:48,147 --> 00:04:50,987 Speaker 2: think what they struck on there, especially at midfield, is 95 00:04:50,987 --> 00:04:53,107 Speaker 2: what I'd go for for this tester. I like the 96 00:04:53,147 --> 00:04:55,427 Speaker 2: Barrett too pie A combination. I think it's worthy of 97 00:04:55,747 --> 00:04:57,067 Speaker 2: sticking with for a few more tests. 98 00:04:57,627 --> 00:05:00,107 Speaker 3: Yes, I think so too. And look at the All Blacks. 99 00:05:00,627 --> 00:05:03,747 Speaker 3: The issue for them is that they haven't mastered the 100 00:05:03,867 --> 00:05:05,907 Speaker 3: art of taking the referee out of the game, so 101 00:05:05,947 --> 00:05:08,267 Speaker 3: that they they need to sort of I guess work 102 00:05:08,307 --> 00:05:11,787 Speaker 3: on that was a game management playing style. They've got 103 00:05:11,867 --> 00:05:14,947 Speaker 3: Jason Holland who's pretty much announced that he's leaving, so 104 00:05:15,307 --> 00:05:17,467 Speaker 3: where does that leave the players in terms of their 105 00:05:17,467 --> 00:05:21,147 Speaker 3: attack strategy? Does he still have control over that? So 106 00:05:21,187 --> 00:05:23,867 Speaker 3: there are a few intriguing points to look at. And 107 00:05:23,947 --> 00:05:27,187 Speaker 3: of course in Chicago in November it can be ice cold, 108 00:05:27,987 --> 00:05:29,227 Speaker 3: and what's called than being cool? 109 00:05:29,267 --> 00:05:33,867 Speaker 2: Elliott ice cold? To quote my man Andre three thousand 110 00:05:34,067 --> 00:05:38,387 Speaker 2: and finally, James International Rugby League, it has been hectic. 111 00:05:38,667 --> 00:05:41,547 Speaker 2: Tongasa'm ola today across the ditch is going to be 112 00:05:41,547 --> 00:05:42,627 Speaker 2: absolutely huge. 113 00:05:42,907 --> 00:05:45,907 Speaker 3: From what I'm hearing out here in West Aukland, there 114 00:05:45,947 --> 00:05:48,227 Speaker 3: are utes flying around with the biggest tongue and flags 115 00:05:48,227 --> 00:05:51,587 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. And I'll send you a photo if 116 00:05:51,627 --> 00:05:55,787 Speaker 3: I can get close to them. It's already reached fever 117 00:05:55,827 --> 00:05:59,747 Speaker 3: pitch here. So I hope that Sun Corp is absolutely heaving. 118 00:06:00,147 --> 00:06:02,747 Speaker 3: The International Rugby League is alive and well, and you 119 00:06:02,787 --> 00:06:05,227 Speaker 3: can tell that league needs to keep on moving to 120 00:06:05,307 --> 00:06:08,347 Speaker 3: new territories. And look at rugby and rugby so lucky. 121 00:06:08,387 --> 00:06:11,067 Speaker 3: It's got Argentina and it's got France. He's just a 122 00:06:11,067 --> 00:06:13,867 Speaker 3: bit of variety, so Lee, really they need to go 123 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:17,507 Speaker 3: and say, you've got Argentina, will take Brazil. You've got 124 00:06:18,067 --> 00:06:21,307 Speaker 3: We're going to Germany, You've got Japan, how about China. 125 00:06:21,667 --> 00:06:24,347 Speaker 3: It's time for that sport to expand because I love 126 00:06:24,467 --> 00:06:27,347 Speaker 3: International league proper tests and long. 127 00:06:27,227 --> 00:06:30,587 Speaker 2: Mate last absolutely and just finally in time for a 128 00:06:30,627 --> 00:06:33,587 Speaker 2: quick word. The NBA has shown both sides of it 129 00:06:33,947 --> 00:06:36,387 Speaker 2: this week, the good, the bad, and perhaps the ugly 130 00:06:36,427 --> 00:06:36,827 Speaker 2: as well. 131 00:06:37,547 --> 00:06:42,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. The match fixing is a real talking point. 132 00:06:42,067 --> 00:06:45,347 Speaker 3: And when they show some highlights low lights of Terry 133 00:06:45,387 --> 00:06:47,947 Speaker 3: Rosie just passing the ball away, I think he's going 134 00:06:47,987 --> 00:06:53,387 Speaker 3: to struggle to avoid jail time. Chauncey Billups, he's the 135 00:06:53,427 --> 00:06:56,227 Speaker 3: coach of my favorite team, the Portland Trailblazers. He was 136 00:06:56,267 --> 00:06:59,307 Speaker 3: always making some questionable calls. His main thing, though, is 137 00:06:59,307 --> 00:07:03,307 Speaker 3: that it's an illegal gambling sort of rigged poker matches 138 00:07:03,387 --> 00:07:08,027 Speaker 3: run by the mafia that he's been alluring in rich punters, 139 00:07:08,147 --> 00:07:11,987 Speaker 3: and so I mean, yeah, he's on massively thin ice. 140 00:07:12,067 --> 00:07:15,627 Speaker 3: But it does expose the fact that basketball is probably 141 00:07:15,667 --> 00:07:17,947 Speaker 3: one of the easier games to rig. Because I think 142 00:07:17,987 --> 00:07:21,347 Speaker 3: there's other players, Malik Beasley, these other names will probably 143 00:07:21,427 --> 00:07:24,587 Speaker 3: emerge in the media again and will be under the spotlight. 144 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:27,547 Speaker 3: But on the highlight side, go and have a look 145 00:07:27,547 --> 00:07:30,347 Speaker 3: at Victor Wembin Yama Wemby. He's grown and then I 146 00:07:30,467 --> 00:07:32,747 Speaker 3: think he's seven foot three. Now he's seven foot four. 147 00:07:33,267 --> 00:07:36,067 Speaker 3: And you got nine blocks yesterday in a game, and 148 00:07:36,147 --> 00:07:38,467 Speaker 3: there's just an absolute freak. So there's some pretty cool 149 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:40,427 Speaker 3: stuff happening on court as well. 150 00:07:40,507 --> 00:07:42,547 Speaker 2: Have you seen the movie The Sting James from the 151 00:07:42,627 --> 00:07:46,227 Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, Because the X ray glasses or the X 152 00:07:46,347 --> 00:07:49,067 Speaker 2: ray that they're using under the table the stink. They 153 00:07:49,107 --> 00:07:51,787 Speaker 2: just get someone fake drunk on gin and pretend they're 154 00:07:51,827 --> 00:07:53,867 Speaker 2: dunk while they're playing poker. That was what they did 155 00:07:53,867 --> 00:07:54,387 Speaker 2: back in the day. 156 00:07:55,507 --> 00:07:58,947 Speaker 3: I know. Now there's all this technology and it's a bit. 157 00:07:59,027 --> 00:08:03,427 Speaker 3: It's pretty shameful stuff, isn't it like, And anyone who 158 00:08:03,507 --> 00:08:07,187 Speaker 3: cheats like that and any match fixing is just abhurrent 159 00:08:07,307 --> 00:08:10,227 Speaker 3: and especially if you've got if you're panting on it, Elliott, 160 00:08:10,227 --> 00:08:14,907 Speaker 3: it could be very frustrating. But they were and they 161 00:08:14,987 --> 00:08:17,667 Speaker 3: had a short term gain and now they're feeling the pain. 162 00:08:17,547 --> 00:08:19,907 Speaker 2: They are indeed, James mcconey, appreciate your time and look 163 00:08:19,907 --> 00:08:21,467 Speaker 2: forward seeing you in Chicago next week. 164 00:08:22,347 --> 00:08:24,667 Speaker 3: Cheers, Elliott. I'll shout you, ber mate. 165 00:08:25,027 --> 00:08:27,267 Speaker 2: I'll hold you to that. James mccony, thank you very 166 00:08:27,347 --> 00:08:29,587 Speaker 2: much for your time this afternoon, and I'm sure all 167 00:08:29,587 --> 00:08:33,187 Speaker 2: the touch based Piney from Chicago next weekend. Here on 168 00:08:33,427 --> 00:08:34,627 Speaker 2: News Talk ZEDB. 169 00:08:35,067 --> 00:08:38,267 Speaker 1: For more from weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 170 00:08:38,387 --> 00:08:41,667 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 171 00:08:41,707 --> 00:08:43,267 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio