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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen. Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: Youth folk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon. Coming up on Today show, Wellington City

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Speaker 3: Councilor Tim Brown on why he reckons they don't need

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Speaker 3: the government to intervene. The Association of Salaried Medical Specialists

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Speaker 3: will explain to us why on Earth's language directive has

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Speaker 3: been sent out to nurses and the White Cuttle wh

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Speaker 3: why the people of Herne Bay and Auckland are stoked

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Speaker 3: they'll get a say on Anna Moobray's helipad application.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So once again, another day we're left wondering what the

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Speaker 3: hell is going on in Health New Zealand. The latest

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Speaker 3: weird thing that they've done is they've sent out a

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Speaker 3: memo at Wye cuttle Or Hospital instructing the nursing staff

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Speaker 3: that they're only allowed to speak to patients and each

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Speaker 3: by a doctor who's really upset about it. Doctor reckons

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Speaker 3: it's obviously to their mind anyway. Aimed at Indian, Filipino

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Speaker 3: and Pacifica nurses. Now Look, if you've been in a

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Speaker 3: to be you know, it's no surprise to you to

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Speaker 3: and lots of Indian nurses. Apparently we have one of

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Speaker 3: the highest levels of foreign trained nurses in the OECD.

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Speaker 3: We're the second highest. Ireland's got the highest, It's got

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Speaker 3: There are three other countries with high numbers, UK, Ozzie, Switzerland,

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Speaker 3: So five percent compared to our thirty six percent, you

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Speaker 3: a lot of people who presumably speak other languages and

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Speaker 3: don't know why they can't. I mean if they're speaking.

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Speaker 3: For example, if a nurse is speaking to a patient

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Speaker 3: Surely that's better for the patient. That's got to be

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Speaker 3: better they are able to communicate what's going on in

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Speaker 3: their preferred language, rather than muddling through trying to speak

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Speaker 3: some settings. For example, if you've got a team of

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Speaker 3: that that would be a problem. How often do we

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Speaker 3: really think that's happening, And do we really believe that

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Speaker 3: if that kind of thing was happening, surely that would

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Speaker 3: be serious enough, if it was putting someone's life in

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Speaker 3: memo being sent out to all staff, Which leaves us

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Speaker 3: being spoken other than English. Now, that's nuts. If that's

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be weird in New Zealand either.

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Speaker 3: We cannot force everyone to speak English all of the

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Speaker 3: And health New Zealand, as an employer of many, many,

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Speaker 3: apparently reversing to pen and paper exams to cut down

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Speaker 5: Well, we do a bunch of things. It depends a

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Speaker 5: Returning in some cases for good reason to pen and paper,

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Speaker 5: Anything where you can get people talking to each other

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Speaker 5: That's one of the formats, but also collaborating around the

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Speaker 3: You guys seeing cheating on the digital exams.

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Speaker 4: For a bunch of reasons.

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Speaker 3: How do kids get around this stuff? I mean, I

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Speaker 5: It's not as simple as some people would make it

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Speaker 5: as we put students through a process that they're already stressed.

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Speaker 5: They're already wound up because it's a big deal doing

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Speaker 3: You want to tex Steven, how stressed out do you?

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Speaker 3: How stressed out are they having to write an entire

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Speaker 3: Been practiced at writing with a pen. These kids aren't.

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Speaker 3: And even then your risk was saw by the end

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Speaker 5: we're shortening tests. So many of our end of year

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Speaker 3: Stephen Marshall, Director of Victoria University Center for Academic Development, Jes,

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Speaker 3: I feel for these kids. Do you remember we used

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Speaker 3: Then it's terrifying for them. Hither, speaking English is a

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Speaker 3: question of respect in the workplace to promote inclusion. Having

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Speaker 3: Your workplace? Thinks everybody there needs to speak to speak English.

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Speaker 3: And this is the kind of crap that makes New

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither dupless Allen

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand one giant leaf for business,

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Speaker 3: Darcy Watergrave sports talk hosters with me, Darcy, Hello, Heather,

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Speaker 3: Peter HECKU No, what punishment is the sky going to get?

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Speaker 8: It could be three or five weeks. People don't know

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Speaker 8: what I'm talking about. He's a guy's been knocked out

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Speaker 3: So the guy in the maroon, the guys in the

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Speaker 3: and Peter is the last guy in blue standing there

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Speaker 3: looking at the sky in the maroon, just lying there.

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Speaker 2: On his face, and he leans over.

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Speaker 8: He touches his upros bicep and he moves it to

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Speaker 2: That back down again because he obviously not, and.

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Speaker 8: Tries to say, come and get over here and help

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Speaker 8: the bloke. So Hule Kingston rovers that's what he plays for.

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Speaker 8: He is facing a band of three to five matches

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Speaker 8: for inappropriate touching of a knocked out player.

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Speaker 3: Now hold on, okay, So inappropriate touching immediately makes you

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Speaker 3: think of silly buggers like sexy stuff. But that's not

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Speaker 3: what we're talking about. This is about inappropriately because he's

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Speaker 2: Entirely sure what you're sexy.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, I mean inappropriate.

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Speaker 8: We're talking about, okay, so unnecessary contact with a player

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Speaker 3: But Jesu's weird people.

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Speaker 8: It's like when they have the situation where somebody gets

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Speaker 3: Are you going to the football this weekend because it's

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Speaker 2: Are you getting treated to corporate hospitality?

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Speaker 10: It's fine.

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Speaker 3: Keep us posted on how the guy in maroon goes

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupisicy Ellen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Dupericy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 3: Heather, where is our Darlene Tana update? It's entertainment at

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Speaker 3: its best, isn't it? Ben? Thank you for raising Darlene.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Barry Soap will have something to say about that.

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Speaker 3: On Wellington City Council. David Seymour has probably given the

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Speaker 12: Well I think the first step is the government can

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Speaker 9: That would be a good start.

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Speaker 12: Clearly they're not making good deceiving on behalf of people

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Speaker 1: Strong opinion, Heather Duper see Ellen drive with one New

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Speaker 13: You know, I'm falling a part and fine, I've got.

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Speaker 3: Murray Old standing by. Oh now we know why Albow

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Speaker 3: That's more than most people get in their entire lives

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Speaker 3: Canada has expelled six Indian diplomats, accusing them of orchestrating

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Speaker 14: Canada and India have a long and storied history, rooted

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the house that Elbow bought is a cliff

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Speaker 3: This is what he said.

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Speaker 15: As a Prime minister, I earn a good income.

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Speaker 8: I understand, I understand how I've been fortunate, but also

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Speaker 3: To struggle Ozzie correspondent Murrayold's very shortly from his own

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 9: How are you going?

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Speaker 3: I'm very wealthare Do you know where I was? I

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Speaker 16: Now, that's down the road Leak City. Yeah, No, down there, mate, No.

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Speaker 3: Cold, isn't it. That's a bit of a hole, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Actually compared to Sydney.

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Speaker 9: Well, I don't like it, but there we go.

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Speaker 16: They say they've got better coffee. I doubt that.

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Speaker 3: Too, mate, I was, how you what, No, they do not.

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Speaker 3: I got home and made myself a coffee and I

446
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Speaker 3: was like, that's where it's at year Melbourne Water Ever anyway,

447
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Speaker 3: So Elbow's house is quite nice, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: It is?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, And apparently we're told that a four point three

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Speaker 16: million dollars and they bought it at a discount. At

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Speaker 16: last sold for three hundred and fifty k more than that,

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Speaker 16: and back at the height of COVID when people were

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Speaker 16: see changing like Billy Oh, was bought then for four

454
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Speaker 16: point sixty five million, So a nice little discount for

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Speaker 16: Elbow and his bride to be, Jody, who grew up

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Speaker 16: on the Central Coast, not far from their new home.

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Speaker 16: It'll be the whole day home. It's pretty flash. My

458
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Speaker 16: old man used to talk about. My father, Doug used

459
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Speaker 16: to talk about Flash Harry, whoever the hell Flash Harry was.

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Speaker 16: But it looks like Elbow's flash. Elbow four bedrooms, three bathrooms,

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Speaker 16: spaces for three cars. As you said on the clip,

462
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Speaker 16: Primo real Estate and their Elbow making much is he

463
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Speaker 16: has done all his political life to the fact he

464
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Speaker 16: was born to a single mum who had a shipboard

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Speaker 16: romance with an Italian waiter on a cruise, raised in

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Speaker 16: government housing in inner Sydney. And yes, it's not the

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Speaker 16: best look when the vast majority of the population is

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Speaker 16: struggling like BILLYO over here. I did look it up though,

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Speaker 16: by way of comparison, Peter duptnowns at least five investment

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Speaker 16: properties commercial and residential, up and down the coast of Queensland.

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Speaker 16: So I'm not sure he's going to be throwing any

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Speaker 16: any stones at Elbow's glasshouse.

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Speaker 3: Surprised it's their holiday and their actual home must be

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Speaker 3: very bloody flash.

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Speaker 16: Well they living the lots in Cabra.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So when they move out of the lodge,

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Speaker 3: are they going to move into this place permanently? Is

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Speaker 3: that the idea?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 16: I wouldn't have thought. So he's the MP for a

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Speaker 16: seat called Grangler, which is in the gritty inner city

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Speaker 16: of Sydney, so he's got digs there as well.

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Speaker 3: Nice all right for something ad By, listen, why are

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Speaker 3: the cops all of a sudden interested in this? Nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety Arsen I mean that's eight years ago.

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Speaker 16: That's thirty four years ago, and it's very intriguing. We're

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Speaker 16: not sure exactly why, but look, it was a very

488
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Speaker 16: tragic story. Indeed, back in nineteen ninety a guest house

489
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Speaker 16: in Ipswich, that's less than an hour southwest of Brisbane,

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Speaker 16: an old fashioned wooden Queensland boarding house, was deliberately set

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Speaker 16: alight and of the twenty eight people who were there

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Speaker 16: that night or asleep, five died ages forty one to eighty.

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Speaker 16: A man was charged with arson and murder a couple

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Speaker 16: of years after that, but the case was then dropped

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Speaker 16: two years later, and we're not sure why. Inquiries have

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Speaker 16: still been going on sporadically. But I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 16: If the state government is offering half a million dollars

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Speaker 16: for information that might solve this case, they must have

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Speaker 16: something to go on. Police are saying that back in

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Speaker 16: the day here there would have been some local fear

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Speaker 16: about dobbing someone in. So whether or not someone's passed

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Speaker 16: away or there's more information that's come to light, we

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Speaker 16: don't know about.

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Speaker 3: This is a real mystery, very interesting stuff. Mars, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much appreciated. Look after yourself it's Murray Old's

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Speaker 3: Ossie correspondent. No, Heather. People landing helicopters in the house

507
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Speaker 3: next to you is not just part of growing up.

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Speaker 3: It's about people being dickheads. Ah, that's why. That's obviously

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Speaker 3: that's their motivation. They're like, do you know what, I

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Speaker 3: don't think we're enough of a dickhead? Should we get

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Speaker 3: a chopper? Yeah, let's get a chopper. Let's be a dickhead.

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Speaker 3: You really think that's why they're flying the chopper. I

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Speaker 3: feel like they're flying the chopper because they just it's convenient.

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Speaker 3: It's much faster to get the kids to school with

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Speaker 3: a chopper than it is in the Auckland rush hour traffic.

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Speaker 3: If you add the option, you'd chopper, wouldn't you. I

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Speaker 3: would be chopper across town to be awesome chopper.

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Speaker 18: Awkland schools have helipads.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, do you need to do you necessarily

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Speaker 3: need to actually just cost the kids out with Paris.

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Speaker 3: She's one of those like like one of those ropes

522
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Speaker 3: like the people use when they do the Jesse saving

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Speaker 3: You just go, kids go down down and then they

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Speaker 3: climb back up and one of those little Yeah, it'd

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Speaker 3: be awesome, fantastic, fantastic upper body strength for the children

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Speaker 3: here the nurses don't determine the course of treatment. Any

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Speaker 3: conversations that they may have in Swahili or Greek will

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Speaker 3: be about the poor working conditions and the winy patients

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Speaker 3: that do nothing but complain about the Asian invasion too.

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Speaker 3: Che sixteen Away.

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Speaker 1: From five Politics was centric credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: Very senior political correspondence with us Hi Barry.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So the big chat in Parliament today was about the

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Speaker 3: Manawanui sinking.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it was interesting because Parliament was back after recess

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Speaker 19: today and for the best part of the first hour

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Speaker 19: they discussed the sinking of the Worship of Samoa and

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Speaker 19: there has been talk of two hundred thousand liters of

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Speaker 19: fuel escaping as it tilted to the side. What a

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Speaker 19: interesting in all of this, though, is the praise for

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Speaker 19: the ship's crew and the captain, and that was certainly

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Speaker 19: the case when Chris Pink stood in for the Defense

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Speaker 19: Minister in Parliament today.

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Speaker 20: With this, we should be incredibly proud of all of

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Speaker 20: our New Zealand Defense Force personnel who are all highly

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Speaker 20: skilled and serve New Zealand without hesitation. With the passengers

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Speaker 20: and crew safe, the government's focus shifted to mastgating any

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Speaker 20: environmental impacts. Sir, I assure this House, the people of

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Speaker 20: New Zealand and those of some more, we will do

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Speaker 20: everything that we can. It is important so that we

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Speaker 20: do not rush to speculate on what happened, and also

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Speaker 20: to allow the court of inquiry process to play out

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Speaker 20: while we do not yet know what caused this terrible incident.

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Speaker 20: I do wish to echo the sentiments of Minister of

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Speaker 20: Defense due to Collins, that we do know that the

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Speaker 20: ship's captain's gender had no role to play in the incident.

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Speaker 9: That extraordinary. I mean, what the hell would a gender

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Speaker 9: have anything to do with.

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Speaker 3: Why she's a lady Barry.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well you could say that that's ridiculous. I just

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Speaker 9: I found that piece rather extraordinary.

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Speaker 19: And the other thing is that is interesting to me

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Speaker 19: is that it's a military court of inquiry that will

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Speaker 19: look into.

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Speaker 9: Why the ship Saint.

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Speaker 19: Now shouldn't the public know a bit more than what

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Speaker 19: a court of inquiry for the military would uncover.

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Speaker 9: I mean they're inquiring into their own Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Are you suggesting that a military court of inquiry is

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Speaker 3: not transparent.

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Speaker 9: Well, i'd hope it would be.

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Speaker 19: But generally this is not necessarily acquiring the military, aren't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point. Actually, Hey, Now, if Dulian

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Speaker 3: goes to the Court of Appeal, like she says she's

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Speaker 3: going to go, she will. She will be able to

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Speaker 3: she will be able to potentially argue that the Greens

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Speaker 3: cannot use the Waker jumping legislation against her right But

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Speaker 3: could they not do it before the Court of Appeal

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Speaker 3: actually hears it? Could they not get ahead of it?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 21: They will do, won't they, because they could kick her

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Speaker 21: out what they're meeting on Thursday, and it only takes

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Speaker 21: a letter to the Speaker, one would assume to get

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Speaker 21: rid of this woman from Parliament.

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Speaker 9: There are certain.

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Speaker 19: Legal parameters though, surrounding that that haven't really been explored

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Speaker 19: yet because the legislation itself hasn't been tested. And you know,

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Speaker 19: there's an argument that MPs are sworn and under their

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Speaker 19: own name as opposed to their party, and that's true,

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Speaker 19: but they're still on the party ticket. So I think

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Speaker 19: they will invoke the Waker jumping legislation and you'll be

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Speaker 19: pleased to hear hither that Darling. Tana was at work today.

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Speaker 19: In fact, she was asking a question. She's told Parliament

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Speaker 19: she's worried about the fish species in the hierarchy golf

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Speaker 19: and even attempted to make something of a.

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Speaker 22: Joke crayfish is functionally extinct, that one in five snapper

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Speaker 22: are so sick as to be referred to as zombies,

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Speaker 22: and that Kenner is left to run so rampant that

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Speaker 22: such that is received at a rate faster than many

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Speaker 22: honorable members' hairlines.

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Speaker 9: That had them rolling in the arms, of course, realize

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Speaker 9: where it had come from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so. And the other thing that we're talking

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Speaker 3: about in Parliament today was what's going on with Gaza

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Speaker 3: and Israel.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely and certainly the Greens. Chloe Swarbrick, she was hot

609
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Speaker 19: under the collar about it, and that was following the

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Speaker 19: Israeli's bombing of a hospital. Swarbrick was fired up asking

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Speaker 19: questions of the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 23: Yes, I have seen those images. They are absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 23: This conflict has catastrophic consequences on innocent civilians.

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Speaker 24: What exactly is the point and those numerous international statements

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Speaker 24: that the Prime Minister alludes to affair is no follow

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Speaker 24: through whatsoever, When the Israeli state can attack a hospital

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Speaker 24: sheltering civilians with no consequences.

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Speaker 23: New Zealand, as a small country at the end of

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Speaker 23: the world, is doing everything it can and by partnering

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Speaker 23: with other light minded countries, we're putting more volume and

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Speaker 23: voice to our prospective and to our position.

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Speaker 24: When will be Prime Minister expel the Israeli ambassador.

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Speaker 23: Well, we believe in maintaining diplomatic channels to actually communicate

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Speaker 23: our differences.

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Speaker 10: That's important. And what are you.

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Speaker 9: Doing question twelve? It's enough. This is absolutely charged.

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Speaker 19: And it was actually there was a yelling match after

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Speaker 19: the question finished, and it was very unruly. But look,

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Speaker 19: certainly tempers are running high there and you saw the

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Speaker 19: Greens again turned out in Parliament today in the Palestinian scarves,

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Speaker 19: so no one was doing under any illusion which side

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Speaker 19: they're on.

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Speaker 3: Very quickly, because you've spent a lot of time in

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Speaker 3: hospital thoughts on the directive.

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Speaker 9: Look, I think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 19: I mean, of course, there's a high ethnic number of

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Speaker 19: nurses in the hospitals, and you know, I had no

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Speaker 19: problem at all with the speaking in their own language

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Speaker 19: as long as they spoke to me in English the biggest.

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Speaker 3: Did they not try speaking to you in another langue?

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Speaker 19: No, they didn't, and well I don't know on a

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Speaker 19: couple of occasions, because they did speak, yes, exactly. They

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Speaker 19: were speaking to me, and many of them had masks on,

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Speaker 19: and I found it really difficult to understand what they

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Speaker 19: were saying. Politely said, look, I'm very sorry, I can't

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Speaker 19: understand your accent. So they'd get then get somebody else

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Speaker 19: and to explain to me what was going on. So

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Speaker 19: I think, you know, my hat comes off absolutely to

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Speaker 19: the hospital staff and what they have to put up

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Speaker 19: with from some quarters.

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Speaker 3: Totally they had more trouble understanding you and your weird hallucinations. Well,

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Speaker 3: for a while there there was a psychosis that sentence, Barry,

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Speaker 3: thanks very much, Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence seven away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 15: Mister Wells, crystalher Lux and Trans Tasman Resources, who are

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Speaker 15: one of the people on the short list, aim they

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Speaker 15: can earn a billion dollars a year. I'm assuming when

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Speaker 15: the committee looked at the fast track they went, jeez,

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Speaker 15: that looks good. I'll put them on the list. Once

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Speaker 15: they got on the list, they've said that doesn't count anymore.

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Speaker 15: Are you in trouble with this?

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Speaker 23: No, not at all. I mean, we've got to grow

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Speaker 23: this country. You've got to say yes to stuff. But

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Speaker 23: do you say yes out starts from there?

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Speaker 15: Who clearly made it up?

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Speaker 23: Well, I'm not sure that that would be the case

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Speaker 23: if I.

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Speaker 15: Claim I'm making a billion dollars and then two days

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Speaker 15: after I'm on the shortlist, I claim I'm not going

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Speaker 15: to make a billion dollars. Did I make it up?

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Speaker 9: Or did I make just a bit of a whoopsie?

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Speaker 15: But I well, never mind, I'm on the shortlist.

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Speaker 23: Well, Mike, I'm not going to go into the individual

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Speaker 23: cases that are in those fast tracks.

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Speaker 15: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 15: the rain drove of the Lahn News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: In New Zealand. Is the Dreamline is going to get

679
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Speaker 3: a makeover, right, So they're sending them over to Singapore

680
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: at the moment, one at a time, and then they

681
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Speaker 3: getting the interior stripped out, and they're getting the interior

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Speaker 3: replaced and there's a new business seat, the business class layout.

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Speaker 3: But it sounds like they're going to get rid of

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Speaker 3: the herring bone layout and they're going to do a

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Speaker 3: bunch of stuff. Anyway, We're going to have a chat

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Speaker 3: to you news. They've got some new seats, but because

687
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Speaker 3: at the moment the best you can get is business Premiere.

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Speaker 3: But now you're going to be able to get Business

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Speaker 3: Premiere Lux. There are only four of them. What even

690
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Speaker 3: is that? We'll have a chat day in New Zealand

691
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Speaker 3: and twenty minutes about that. On the subject of flying,

692
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: texts come in saying hither I had the misfortune of

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Speaker 3: dropping my wife at the Auckland Airport last weekend. The

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Speaker 3: new layout is terrible. Someone who couldn't even make it

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Speaker 3: into at for instance, a single land for all drop

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Speaker 3: off pack up instead of multiple lanes or at least

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Speaker 3: a lane for each side of drop off. So my wife,

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Speaker 3: who travels the world for a living, says it's one

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Speaker 3: of the worst experiences she's had at an airport. Now funny,

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Speaker 3: thank you allan for raising that, because because I landed

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Speaker 3: there on Sunday and walked over to where I told

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Speaker 3: me to get packed up, and then I was told

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Speaker 3: by the uber driver that I had to walk another

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Speaker 3: like another ten minutes in the other direction. It was

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Speaker 3: horrendous in the rain. The taxi and uber set up

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Speaker 3: is like whoa way out there? You land at Melbourne.

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Speaker 3: I hate Melbourne, but you land at Melbourne Airport. One

708
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Speaker 3: good thing is the airport. Land at Melbourne Airport. You

709
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Speaker 3: walk out the door and literally the uber pix you upright.

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Speaker 3: We're not treating the uber drivers like pariahs. We're not

711
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Speaker 3: trying to pretend that technology isn't happen. They pick you

712
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Speaker 3: up right outside the doors. How first world is that?

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Speaker 3: Next up we'll go to Wellington City Council. News Talk ZEDB, the.

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Speaker 1: Only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Together due to see Alan Drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected and New Talk zed B.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon. It sounds increasingly like the Government is

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Speaker 3: planning to intervene in Wellington City Council after the council's

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Speaker 3: failure to pass the long term Plan. Now a series

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Speaker 3: of government ministers have been pretty clear on what a

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Speaker 3: mess they think the place is.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's the shambles.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty concerned about it.

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Speaker 23: If I'm honest, it doesn't look great their long term

726
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Speaker 23: plan looks at risk. We'll continue to monitor it and

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Speaker 23: if we have to make an intervention we will.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think shamozzle is the best description of it,

729
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Speaker 4: and I think Valentini is pretty.

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Speaker 1: Concerned about it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 12: I think the first step is the government can put

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Speaker 12: an observer on there.

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Speaker 9: That would be a good start.

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Speaker 3: Toriy Fano didn't want to talk about this today. She

736
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Speaker 3: dodged our questions in a statement saying she's focused on

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Speaker 3: delivering a long term plan and we'll be meeting with

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Speaker 3: counselors this week to work on it. Wellington City councilor

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Speaker 3: Tim Brown is with us.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Tim, good after dad, what.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon? Sounds like they're going to interven.

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Speaker 4: Name, No, it doesn't. It sounds like they're going to

743
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Speaker 4: observe what's going on and they're going to see whether

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Speaker 4: we could fix it the problems.

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Speaker 3: Ourselves with a crown observer.

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Speaker 4: Without a crowd observer, a crowd observer is just a

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: gallery that some of the politicians around our council table

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Speaker 4: will play to. So a crowd observer would be a

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Speaker 4: major disruption. It would not have any way help the

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Speaker 4: councilors solve the problem. The councilors need to sit down

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Speaker 4: and arrive at a majority vote for a district plan.

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Speaker 4: I mean remember that, of course'll be sorry had long

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Speaker 4: term plan. Remember that we actually did get the vote.

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Speaker 4: We're back in May. We all voted and we passed

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Speaker 4: a long term plan. And unfortunately last week that our

756
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Speaker 4: long term plan was unsettled by the decision about the

757
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Speaker 4: airport shares. But what's Tory and is going to have

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Speaker 4: to try and do is actually get a majority of

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Speaker 4: counselors to agree on the cuts necessary to effectively balance

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Speaker 4: the budget.

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Speaker 3: So you think they're not You don't think they're going

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Speaker 3: to put a Crown observer and observer.

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Speaker 4: I would say, listen to what those comments which you

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Speaker 4: just heard would indicate to me that the council's future

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Speaker 4: is in its own hands. If the council laws can

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Speaker 4: solve the problem and can actually arrive at the numbers

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Speaker 4: of fifty one percent of the voted other words, to

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Speaker 4: actually get a new long term plan through, then the

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Speaker 4: government will sit back and let us do it ourselves.

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Speaker 3: What do you basing on? Is this just a vibe

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Speaker 3: if you talk to someone.

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't spoken to anyone, but I believe that.

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Speaker 3: They intervene because it looks like they're going to intervene him.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I mean you know, I of course don't

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Speaker 4: won't have anybody if the're intervene because if they fire us,

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Speaker 4: all I won't be paid. Oh definitely. Look, I mean

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Speaker 4: I would have to say that I would definitely better

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Speaker 4: bear on them not intervening. And but but that depends

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Speaker 4: on us being able to sort out the problem ourselves.

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Speaker 4: If we can sort out the problem, why would they intervene.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a good point, although I wonder if

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Speaker 3: it's a bigger problem than just the long term plan,

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Speaker 3: and it's the ongoing dysfunction I suspect is the problem.

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, there is no longer there is no

786
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Speaker 4: ongoing dysfunction. I mean, that's just temp political statement.

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Speaker 3: About Look at the situation with the reading cinemas, where

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Speaker 3: you had the council basically trying to stop counselors allegedly

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Speaker 3: leaking the information, trying to hold meetings behind the scenes

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Speaker 3: away from the public. It's pretty dysfunctional.

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Speaker 25: Mate.

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Speaker 4: Look, you've got a small group of counselors who have

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Speaker 4: behaved extremely badly throughout the entire two years of this

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Speaker 4: council and you know, full power of them. They regard

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Speaker 4: that as their political mandate to actually sort of try

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Speaker 4: to break the rules and generally sort of vote all over.

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Speaker 3: The sholaming them. And I understand that you might be

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Speaker 3: upset at their behavior, but that would suggest that you're

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Speaker 3: totally comfortable then with the shenanigans that was going on

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Speaker 3: with Reading Cinema.

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Speaker 4: So what shenanigans them leaking information that was that was

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Speaker 4: expressly provided on a confidential basis.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Shenigan is like like like wanting to give this

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Speaker 3: money to a Nasdaq listed company to be able to

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Speaker 3: renovate its building.

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Speaker 4: Bullshit, that's bullshit, that's bullshit. You are no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: that's not shenanigans.

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Speaker 3: Are you serious?

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Speaker 4: That was never the deal. The deal there was that

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Speaker 4: Wellington City Council would effectively provide a subsidy if Reading

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Speaker 4: could actually get the could produce one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 4: to actually redevelop that complex. It was a very cheap

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Speaker 4: way for the Wellington City to actually vital in order

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Speaker 4: to fund Yeah, so we were one Brownies that.

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Speaker 3: Your rate was going to fund it.

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Speaker 4: That's the Do you know how much money we put

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Speaker 4: into this St James Theater which is across the road.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: Where the Wellington City Council. The Wellington City Council put

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Speaker 4: sixty million dollars into the Saint James Theatre so that opera,

821
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Speaker 4: lovers and the light can actually go along in theater.

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Speaker 4: We were going to put a total the present value

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Speaker 4: of the subsidy that we were going to put in

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Speaker 4: reading was about seven million, and so a completely different

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Speaker 4: demographic would be able to actually enjoy that entertainment.

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Speaker 3: Tim But even if you could, even if you think

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Speaker 3: that's a good decision, that decision was going to be

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Speaker 3: kept from the public. It was going to be there.

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Speaker 4: It was never going to be kept from the public.

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Speaker 4: It was the process, the process of agreeing to provide

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Speaker 4: council officers with a mandate to be able to actually

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Speaker 4: go ahead and negotiate. The final decision was going to

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Speaker 4: be completely public. Everything was going to be on the table.

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Speaker 3: And how are you okay with this? Mate? You are

835
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Speaker 3: a businessman and you're saying it's okay that ratepayers only

836
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Speaker 3: find out when it's a fate A complete.

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Speaker 4: No, it was not going to be fat a cop.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it might have been. It might have been, but

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Speaker 4: I mean, but okay.

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Speaker 3: You're making a case. Observer coming this this place sounds.

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Speaker 4: Like no, no, you're going look this is like you

843
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 4: go through look, you go through the rubbish. But and

844
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Speaker 4: you're finding something that last year it's fish and chat paper.

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Speaker 4: I mean, talk about what's in front of us now

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Speaker 4: and justifying government intervening and and disregarding the democratic rights

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Speaker 4: of Wellingtonians to actually have been a bitterly a bunch

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Speaker 4: of clowns around thelon.

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Speaker 3: It is rich coming from you that you are saying

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Speaker 3: anything about democratic rights when you people are prepared to

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Speaker 3: hide your decisions until the decision is made.

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Speaker 4: There was Look, can you find something new to complain?

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Speaker 3: I'll complain. You want something else here? What about this?

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Speaker 3: Something which council in the Wellington Region is putting less

855
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Speaker 3: money into fixing the pipes than Wellington City Council.

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Speaker 4: Let me just point out that I am in the

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Speaker 4: Wellington people. Okay, okay, which Wellington City, which Wellington Regional

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Speaker 4: Council has provided is fully funded Wellington limited to actually

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Speaker 4: correct its leaks. Wellington City Council. If you happen to

860
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Speaker 4: look at the most recent report which they provided us.

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Speaker 4: We are one of only two councils who is fully

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Speaker 4: funded their requests and respective leak reductions. Let me finish,

863
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: and we have the lowest level of leaks on our

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Speaker 4: network of any other city in the Wellington region. We

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Speaker 4: have the lowest level of leaks. We have fully funded

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Speaker 4: our requests.

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Speaker 3: Are you telling me.

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Speaker 4: I've got it? Did their report? I've got it their?

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Speaker 4: Won't you?

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Speaker 3: Because because you're here and I can ask you, are

871
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Speaker 3: you telling me that you have fewer leaks in Wellington

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Speaker 3: than carpetypt.

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Speaker 4: Is not part of company?

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Speaker 10: Is water?

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Speaker 7: It's not.

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Speaker 4: We have We have lower We leak less water. We

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Speaker 4: leak less water, a lot less water than the other councils.

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Speaker 4: We have the low we are also in terms of

879
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: our reductions, we have a target. Wellington City has a

880
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: targ I've got a producing our water consumption by seven

881
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: million leaders a day. We are on target to achieve

882
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: that outcome. We are the only city in the Wellington

883
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 4: region on target to achieve it's water reduction goals.

884
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: Tim, thank you for talking to me. And you better

885
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: put your money aside for that beer, because you're gonna

886
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 3: have to buy any.

887
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 4: One you're gonna have to buy me one.

888
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: Thank you, sim appreciate it. Tim Brown, Wellington City councilor Quarterbacks.

889
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 6: Five.

890
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: Hey, now here's something pretty special and in all honesty,

891
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: year it's likely to be one of the most dual

892
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: dropping Central Otago Pino now ideals you'll ever come across.

893
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: It's available exclusively at the Good Wine Co. Wine is

894
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: being sold as the mystery premium Central Otago Pino No.

895
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty. Now the name of the Skipston Valley producer

896
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: must be kept under wraps. But due to tough economic

897
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: conditions and to slow down in export and premium wine cells,

898
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: they've relabeled and repackaged stocks of their premium label Pino

899
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 3: and Wi that sells for much more, and the wine

900
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: is being urgently sold at an absurd fifteen ninety nine

901
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: per bottle. Now, make no mistake, this is Central Otago

902
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: Pino of quality you would never normally dream of picking

903
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: up for fifteen ninety nine. It's one hundred percent Gibson fruit,

904
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: no finding or filtration, twenty percent whole cluster fermentation, eleven

905
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: months aging in twenty five percent expensive New French oak,

906
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: and in short, basically you are getting a lot of

907
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: pino for your money. Here a rich, luscious, silky Central

908
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: pino that is quite honestly unbelievable buying for fifteen ninety nine.

909
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: And if you order now you're going to pay just

910
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: a dollar per case delivery to your door anywhere in

911
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: New Zealand. Conditions apply. Premium Central Otago Pino for fifteen

912
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: ninety nine, absolutely mad. Order right now online at the

913
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: Goodwine dot co dot in Zeil. Give them a call.

914
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred double six two double six to two.

915
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: Heather, due for Cela Heather.

916
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: Remember Tim Brown was hit by a bus a couple

917
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: of years ago. Maybe he's still can caust Tony, thank you.

918
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: Lots of texts coming through. I'm going to get to

919
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: them and we'll have a little bit more of a

920
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: chat about this and just a tick. It's nineteen past

921
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: five now in New Zealand's Dreamliner is going to get

922
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: a makeover. New seats, new carpets, new curtains, new screens,

923
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: new business, premiere cabin. They've got fourteen of these things

924
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: are being sent one by one to Singapore for the

925
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: makeover over the next two years.

926
00:42:59,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 6: Now.

927
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: Aiden Smith is in New Zealand's general manager of strategy,

928
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: networks and fleet. Hey Baden, Hi, Heather, Hey, So how

929
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: different is it going to look?

930
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 6: Oh? Look, there's going to be a number of changes.

931
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 26: We have an entirely new business class cabin with new

932
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 26: seats up there and a new product at the front.

933
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 6: Of the plane.

934
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 26: We've got new premium economy seats, new economy seats, a

935
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 26: new and flight entertainment system, and some big changes with

936
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 26: some of the soft furnishings as well.

937
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 6: So it'll be a pretty major makeover.

938
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: Are you going to ditch the herring bone seating that

939
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: you've got in business.

940
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 26: Where the current seat will be going It will be

941
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 26: a new seat that has a very small side facing

942
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 26: element to it, but certainly not as.

943
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: Well because if you go to business in other airlines

944
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: like maybe Quantus of Fiji Airlines or whatever, you just

945
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 3: have the two seats sitting next to each other facing forward.

946
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: Are you saying you're not doing the facing forward, You're

947
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: still you're still doing a bit of an angle.

948
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 26: Will be a little bit of an angle, but it's

949
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 26: the right thing to do in terms of making sure

950
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 26: that we've got the most comfort that we can get

951
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 26: on the seat and making use of the space which

952
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 26: is at a premium on an aircraft.

953
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: Did I see that You've got some new seats A

954
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: business LUCKX seat.

955
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 6: Business Lucks Is that? Yeah?

956
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 26: Premier Lux, So that's at the very front row. There's

957
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 26: four seats on this aircraft that will be Business's Premier Lux,

958
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 26: which is has a few extra sort of features about

959
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 26: it and a little bit more space for those lucky customers.

960
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: What are the other features?

961
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 6: What's that?

962
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: Sorry?

963
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: What are the other features?

964
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 6: The other features?

965
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 26: It's basically has a bit more privacy and a little

966
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 26: bit more space and a bit more stowage up there.

967
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: Okay, now, how have you ended up then with fewer

968
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: seats across the plane because it goes from it goes

969
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: down to two hundred and seventy two from.

970
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 26: What Well, we've got two different configurations currently, there's a

971
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 26: three hundred and two seat configuration and a two hundred

972
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 26: and seventy five seat configuration. So the first thing is

973
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 26: is that the three hundred and two seat configurations are

974
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 26: the first ones that are going into this overhaul. They're

975
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 26: going to have many more premium seats the ones that

976
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 26: are going in when they come out, and the two

977
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 26: hundred and seventy five seat configuration is going to two

978
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 26: seventy two as well, so it'll end up across the

979
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 26: fourteen to seven and sevens that we've currently got just

980
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 26: one configuration, but generally more premium seats than we have today.

981
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: And so are you still going to have the kind

982
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: of like the Neon pink and purples and blues and

983
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 3: stuff and there are you changing the color scheme?

984
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 17: Oh?

985
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 26: The color schemes for us are pretty important and they've

986
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 26: been worked on and they'll be.

987
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 6: Ever so slightly different to this new aircraft. And I

988
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 6: think that will be pretty exciting.

989
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: Oh cool ban can't wait to see it. Thanks mate, appreciate.

990
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: It's Baden Smith from in New Zealand. Heather, is it

991
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: a problem that Tim Brown doesn't see an issue with

992
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: sixty million? Maybe talk about this more five twenty two.

993
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather dupers Alan

994
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and use dogs.

995
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: That'd be five twenty five. We're going to have a

996
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: chat about the Herne Bay Hallipad shortly. Now. I think

997
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: you and I can see something that Tim can't see.

998
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: He's going to have to buy me a bear isn't

999
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 3: he Because it's on the Government is going to intervene

1000
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: in Wellington City Council. It's not going to be a

1001
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 3: full set of commissioners. If you listen to what Nikola

1002
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: Willis said on the show last night, it's going to

1003
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: be a step down from that which is a Crown observer.

1004
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: So basically, it'll be a grown up that the Government

1005
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: sends in who will sit with the council and hold

1006
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 3: their hands while they make grown up decisions. The clue

1007
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: that something is going to happen and that it's on

1008
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: this time, I reckon is that Simeon Brown is now

1009
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: taking advice.

1010
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 11: Now.

1011
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 3: I've been following this council really closely since it became

1012
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: really obvious that they needed to get some assistance, and

1013
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: they're from some grown ups, and as far as I

1014
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: can tell, Simon hasn't taken any advice up to this point.

1015
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 3: So this is a change and it means that they're

1016
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 3: doing something. The second clue is that Kerry Prendergast, former

1017
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: Mayor of Wellington, yesterday said it's time to intervene. Now,

1018
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: Kerry doesn't speak up unless there's a reason to speak up.

1019
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: She's very close to Nikola Willis a Wellington based mp

1020
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 3: I reckon She was basically sent out as a stalking

1021
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: horse to start laying the groundwork for something happening, and

1022
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 3: the final clue is one that was laid weeks ago,

1023
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: if not months ago, on this show when Simeon said

1024
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: this is Simeon Brown said he would be really worried

1025
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: if one thing happened at Wellington City Council, and that

1026
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: was that the council could not pass its long term

1027
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: plan or make the long term plan work. That has

1028
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: just happened, that happened last week. The long term plan

1029
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: is now under threat, so it has to go back

1030
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: and do the whole thing again. And that is the trigger,

1031
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 3: I think, by which at which point Simeon Brown goes, yeah,

1032
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: it's time to get involved. Now you heard Tim. It's

1033
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: clearly the right thing to do, because this lot clearly

1034
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 3: do not think it is a problem to be giving

1035
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 3: tens of millions of dollars to a Nasdaq listed company

1036
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: to finally renovate their cinemas on Courtney Plays in a

1037
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: move that is not cost neutral to rate payers. They

1038
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: also think it's fine to try to hide that from

1039
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: rate payers until the decision is made thereby kind of

1040
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: dicking around with democracy, right, And they also don't see

1041
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: a problem in the fact that they can not actually

1042
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: ensure that their long term plan is going to pass.

1043
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 3: If Simme and Brown heard that interview, this lot would

1044
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 3: have a Crown monitor in before the end of the month.

1045
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: Twenty seven Heather duplus Ellen Heather g Tim's great, I'm

1046
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: thinking of moving to Wellington. Not here the Tim is,

1047
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: But no, you shouldn't. I moved away for a good reason.

1048
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: Here the Tim is part of the problem. He's got

1049
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: Stockholm syndrome. Tim is surprising to me because Tim is

1050
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: actually a very reputable businessman, and I was expecting him

1051
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 3: to come in and be like, what's going on here, guys,

1052
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: let's tardy this up. But in fact, maybe Stockholm syndrome

1053
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: does explain what is going on here. Here the get

1054
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: rid of Wellington City Council. How is this guy actually

1055
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: defending giving Reading Cinema's money and then comparing it to

1056
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: fixing St. James, which is owned by the city. What

1057
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 3: an idiot? Heather Best interview, highly entertaining. Thank you, Jason.

1058
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: This is the only thing listen. This is for the

1059
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: people of Wellington. The only thing that we can do

1060
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 3: now is to enjoy the ride, right because it's a mess,

1061
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: and it's going to be a mess. May as well

1062
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: just enjoy the thing for the end entertainment value, because

1063
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: that's all we've got left headlines.

1064
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: Next, the day's newsmakers talk to Heather First. Heather duper

1065
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: c Allen drive with One New Zealand. Let's get connected

1066
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: and you talk.

1067
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 10: That'd be.

1068
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: Hey, the Huddles standing by. We've got Jordan Williams and

1069
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: Mike Monroe with us this evening. You will have heard

1070
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: this morning Mike was talking plenty about the Solicitor General

1071
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: and the new guidelines that have been issued around ethnicity,

1072
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: and she's told prosecutors to think carefully about particular decisions

1073
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: where a person is Mari as in I mean, if

1074
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: you interpreted that as you could, prima facie, right, it

1075
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: would be maybe think about prosecuting them if they're Mari,

1076
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: maybe you don't want to. That's basically what that looks like.

1077
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: We have the question, the question that I have about them.

1078
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that's crazy. We don't need to discuss

1079
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 3: how crazy that is. It's just abundantly crazy. But the

1080
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: question that I have is one that is related to

1081
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: what Luxon said today, right. He was like, basically, I

1082
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: can't do anything about it. She's got an independent position,

1083
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: So what can we do if she's gone completely loopy?

1084
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: Is there anything that we can do to stop this

1085
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: loopiness from happening. We're going to talk to David Seymour

1086
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 3: about that after six o'clock. It's twenty three away from.

1087
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: Six together due to see Ellen rich List.

1088
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 3: A couple Anna Mobray and ex all Black Alli Williams

1089
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: have hit a bit of a roadblock in their plans

1090
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: to build a halle pad in Herne Bay. They've been

1091
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: wanting permission to have two return flights a day to

1092
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: their mansion. Environmentalists and Nimbi's though don't like the idea.

1093
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Speaker 3: Now they've basically got a little bit of a win

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Speaker 3: for themselves. They're going to get a public hearing to

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Speaker 3: voice their concerns. Herne Bay Residents Association co chaired Dirk

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Speaker 3: Hugh Digg is with me now, hey.

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Speaker 1: Dirk, hi, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Why don't you like the halle pad?

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Speaker 17: Well, Helbi copters and taking off and landing. There's not

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Speaker 17: a normal sort of a residential activity in an urban area.

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00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 17: Are they're noisy and they are so very dirty. If

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Speaker 17: you live next door to somebody's got a helipad, the

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00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 17: noise is excruciating you to go inside if you're having

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00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 17: a barbecue outside, Yes, and everybody's got to go inside.

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00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 17: And afterwards it's quite likely that you we're going to

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00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 17: have to clean all the garden furniture. They be covered

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Speaker 17: and stuff from propeller wash. It's just a distance living

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00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 17: next door to them.

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00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: How close are they to the helicopter.

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00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 17: Well, we have people who have helicopter learning just over

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00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 17: the fence.

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00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 3: So you've already got this problem.

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00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 17: The three helicopter learning pads, and they interesting ones that

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00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 17: are that? Are that are consented?

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00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: And how close on top of it?

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00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 17: There's another ones on top of the boathouse.

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00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: And are these these are.

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00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: These things messing up your garden furniture?

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00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 17: Dirk absolutely, And the one on the boathouse if the

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Speaker 17: tides and the wrong place and the next door neighbor

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00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 17: gets sea spray And.

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Speaker 3: Is anybody very close to Mowbray and Williams's helipad.

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Speaker 17: There are people reasonably close to that. Yes, there's four

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00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 17: people who will be affected by by noise according to

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00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 17: the documents issued yesterday to make it a public notification,

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00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 17: so noise beyond what they're what they're supposed to get.

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00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 3: Is there anything that these two can do to sort

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Speaker 3: of mitigate the effects and get the helipad over the line?

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00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 17: I don't know exactly what they what they can do.

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00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 17: I mean, I think they should simply withdraw. It's not

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00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 17: it's not a not a usual activity in an urban area,

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00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 17: and it's just a nuisance. If you can imagine if

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00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 17: lots of people have these helipads, you'd have these helicopters

1134
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 17: going back and forth all weekend and you'd be over helicopters.

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00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 17: We get them here. They're just a noumsey and the nuisance.

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00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 17: There's no need for them. There's no need for them

1137
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 17: in an urban setting when you can when you can

1138
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 17: drive down to either the North Shore or mccan Mechanics Bay,

1139
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 17: which is just you know, maybe ten minutes away, and

1140
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 17: you can take off from there from what's the proper facility.

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00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, that sort of is right.

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00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 3: So there's basically no middle ground. A it's either either

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00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: either on or off basically exactly.

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Speaker 17: And if you go to a lot of cities, particularly

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00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 17: in Australia big cities.

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00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: They're band all right, Hey, Duke, thank you for that.

1147
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: Appreciate you having a chat to us as juke you.

1148
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 3: Dick Herne Bay Residence Association co Chair.

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00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, local and

1150
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: global exposure like no other.

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00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: Right on the Huddle with us this evening we have

1152
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: Jordan Williams Taxpayers Union, Mike Munroe, former chief of staff

1153
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: to just doing Highlands. Mike, how do you feel about

1154
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: the helipad?

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 10: Ooh A bit discomforted? I must say. Look, you know,

1156
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 10: I just don't understand why this couple would require permission

1157
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 10: to have two return flights a day. I mean, is

1158
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 10: it just to avoid opened traffic? Is it just convenience?

1159
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 10: If I had some some some kind of role, you know,

1160
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 10: I don't know, some kind of emergency workers and they

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00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 10: needed to get out quickly and get the places quickly,

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00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 10: I could sort of understand it.

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Speaker 3: But just really rich, like they're just really really really

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00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: rich and rich people do with their money. They buy

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00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: themselves time, they.

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Speaker 10: Buy Yeah, and this sort of thing is just going

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00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 10: to generate sort of you know, contempt and resentment in

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 10: the neighborhood. I got on Google Earth this afternoon to

1169
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 10: have a look at that street where they live, and

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00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 10: it's pretty concentrated around there. It's you know, cheap by

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Speaker 10: a gel living in that part of Orpland as it is,

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00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 10: lots of parts of orplaned. But but you know, a

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00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 10: neighborhood is a shared place, and we sort of make concessions,

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00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 10: you know, so that we can all live in as

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00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 10: harmonious a way as we as we can. And to

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00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 10: me this just st of Yeah, this is a bridge

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00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 10: too far.

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Speaker 3: Jordan.

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Speaker 25: I'm pretty pro have given out long will can transport

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00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 25: delay the traffic to get I've got to be honest.

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Speaker 3: If I had guess the money like these two, I

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Speaker 3: would want a halipad. I'm not gonna lie. I want

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Speaker 3: a halipad outside my house. And I'd want to fly

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Speaker 3: twice a day.

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00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 25: Yep, ye, I like shoot for the stars. Mate, your

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00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 25: nearest half dozen neighbors, give him some money, give them

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Speaker 25: some money, and actually the person that came down the

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Speaker 25: road go away, you know, the I live in some

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Speaker 25: halle is. So we have what what Dick Quax used

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Speaker 25: to call the Glenn and this native bird fly fly

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00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 25: over us almost every night, and that equal helicopter you do?

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Speaker 10: You do?

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Speaker 3: How much money, Jordan, would it take if you were

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00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 3: right next door to Anna and Allie? How much money

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00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: would it take for you to be like it?

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Speaker 25: Depend If I got a ride to work to avoid

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Speaker 25: that necessary waiting in traffic every morning, it would be

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Speaker 25: a lot cheaper.

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Speaker 3: I reckon a HUNDI thou would swing me? What about you, Mike?

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Speaker 10: Look, I'm not so sure. I just think there's such

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00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 10: ob noxious machines. Everyone's these guys. If these guys had

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Speaker 10: had a lifestyle block out in the back of Cleveland

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00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 10: or somewhere absolutely fine, in a very urban area.

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Speaker 3: Would you, Mike, if they make your services on an

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00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: ongoing basis to be their lobbyist, and would you be

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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 3: okay with it?

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Speaker 9: Then?

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Speaker 10: No, I would say shift to Cleveton.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're so old school. Okay. Now listen, Mike, you're

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00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: you're you're a man who lives in Wellington. What do

1211
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 3: you reckon? Are you prepared to take a bet with

1212
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: me that the government's going to intervene in Wellington City Council?

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00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 10: They almost certainly are. I mean, these things are now

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00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 10: so taken on a certain momentum and something's going to happen.

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Speaker 10: It may be commissioners, that may be a Crown observer,

1217
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 10: but but something has to happen. The situation's got so bad.

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00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 10: Relationships are breaking down, the mayor is allegedly not talking

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00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 10: to her counselors and that comes on top of all

1220
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 10: the enormous financial financial problems. Well yeah that's true, but

1221
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 10: you know that comes on top of the enormous economic

1222
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 10: issues that the city is facing and social issues. Something's

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00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 10: going to happen. Then it's just a question now lotsort

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 10: of scale and what that's going to look like.

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00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon? Jordan?

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Speaker 25: I mean, Tory Farnow achieved something I never thought was

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00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 25: achievable and it actually makes me happy to be as

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00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 25: in hell he's right payer. You know that the Wellington

1229
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 25: is so bad it makes the super city look good.

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Speaker 25: I think Wellingtonian should be careful what they wish for.

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Speaker 25: You look at what happened with tarong and the terrible

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00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 25: well not helped by by and Tolly power going to

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00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 25: a head. But you're looking at what happened with Taronger,

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Speaker 25: you wouldn't even I wouldn't wish that on Wellington, but

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Speaker 25: there is some intermediatary options a crown observer obviously, or

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00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 25: actually the obvious thing is to is the reset button

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00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 25: is recall elections.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a big called though Jordan, for a

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00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: government that has completely different ideological views, right ideological positions.

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Speaker 25: And that's actually a barrier from what from what I

1241
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 25: hear and in and around the government circles is that

1242
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 25: there's a little bit well, this is what this is

1243
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 25: what a Green Party council looks like you almost and

1244
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 25: Wellington votes for.

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Speaker 3: Us exactly, And Mike, isn't this the problem actually for

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00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: the government, there is an element of letting this play

1247
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: out so people can see what happens when you vote

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00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: the Greens into positions of power. That's how that's the

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00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: narrative that's developing here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 10: Well, and also the government will be very pleased to

1252
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 10: be talking about someone else's dysfunction rather than their own.

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Speaker 10: After all the problems I've had with the need in

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00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 10: hospital and smoke feed laws, talking to hiring freezers, tax

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00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 10: breaks from the tobacco companies, et cetera. I mean, they'll

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00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 10: be pleased to see this is a crap going down elsewhere.

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Speaker 10: And as there's an element of truth and that it

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 10: is a labor green city. And you know there'll be

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00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 10: some people in the beehives or sniping behind their hands

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Speaker 10: that this is now happening.

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Speaker 25: Look at what happened last week came out of Wellington,

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Speaker 25: this investigation into the mayor's oponents as a result of

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00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 25: a secret source and an appointment of the mayor's fear

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Speaker 25: MEA's friend, lawyer Linda Clark, who now has whole conflict

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00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 25: issues around that because she claims she wasn't a lawyer

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Speaker 25: for the purposes of that. But we now discover that

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Speaker 25: the source, the anonymous source, was none other than the

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Speaker 25: Mayor's chief of staff, who is responsible for pointing the

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Speaker 25: so called independent investigator like this is that the whole thing.

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Speaker 9: I'm merely going to say shambles.

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Speaker 3: It's not not quite a book, but it is just

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Speaker 3: like this. This council is so dysfunctional it totally is. Hey,

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Speaker 3: we'll take a break to come back and have a

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00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: chat about what's going on with the nurses in English.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen away from six the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate the marketing

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Speaker 1: of your Home Right you're back with a huddle.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Williams and Mike Munroe. Jordan, Okay, what do you

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: make of this directive at Wycutle Hospital that the nurses

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Speaker 3: may only speak English and clinical situations.

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Speaker 25: Well, I checked the other half on this, because she's

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Speaker 25: the she's the pediatric intents of care nurse. And she

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00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 25: jumped down my throat at thus that she's been in

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Speaker 25: situations and emergency situations where Filipino nurses have not spoken

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Speaker 25: English to each other. And absolutely, yeah, as I said, it.

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Speaker 3: Speaking, they're speaking their own language to each other and

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Speaker 3: what's going on.

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Speaker 25: It's and it's a safety concern, And she said, has

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Speaker 25: nothing to do with toay, it will be that there

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Speaker 25: is a lot of English and second language nurses, and

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Speaker 25: you know, it's the reality, and a lot of clinical

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Speaker 25: settings now and that of course and high pressure situations

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Speaker 25: they may revert back to the native language. But that

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Speaker 25: is a big dangerous no no when half your clinical

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Speaker 25: team don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised that that's happening.

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Speaker 2: Well, rarely.

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Speaker 25: M said that she's literally been in those situations. Rare

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Speaker 25: and totally I don't know. She referred to one one

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Speaker 25: particular one at Starship, but I didn't ask her how

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Speaker 25: many times, but said, totally understandable, they get the directive

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Speaker 25: and totally appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Mike, what do you think?

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Speaker 10: Well, look, Jordan didn't once mentioned from what I can recall,

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Speaker 10: the patients and and and surely the patient safety of

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Speaker 10: the persons that the patient here is absolutely critical to

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Speaker 10: these communications. And as Rickie said today that you know,

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Speaker 10: if nurses feel that it's appropriate and clinically safe to

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Speaker 10: converse in their own language and in their first language

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Speaker 10: and with one another and with patients, then that should

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Speaker 10: be able to happen because the most critical thing is

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Speaker 10: that everyone understands, including the patient, what is going on

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Speaker 10: in these clinical situations.

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Speaker 25: No, I think you're ready.

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Speaker 1: No, that wasn't.

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Speaker 9: That wasn't.

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Speaker 25: What I was saying clearly communicating with patients is.

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Speaker 3: There are two different settings here, Jordan's. So there is

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Speaker 3: one where you talk, where the nurse talks to the

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Speaker 3: patient in their first language, and then there's the second

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Speaker 3: where the nurses talk to each other surrounded by other

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Speaker 3: clinicians and they're all trying to say to somebody, and.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 25: I think it's disgraceful the way and wanting to reach

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Speaker 25: for outrage and turning this into it. And is it

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Speaker 25: not that you can buy who this into the the

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Speaker 25: obviously not the good newstics better and in the new door,

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Speaker 25: but some of the.

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Speaker 3: Our friends, our friends, our competitors, Yes, Red Radio. Okay, here,

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Speaker 3: here's here's the thing. Mike's, Mike's Jordan to be Mike,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry for what he just said to you, Jordren't.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, you would never listen to them. This

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Speaker 3: is the problem, right, So so it may be fair

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Speaker 3: enough to instruct the nurses to say, hey, listen, if

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Speaker 3: you're trying to save somebody's life, and you're a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of doctors and nurses trying to save somebody's life,

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Speaker 3: only speak in English to everybody understands the way the

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Speaker 3: communication has gone out, the memo has gone out. It's

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Speaker 3: just like nothing but English in clinic clinical settings. And

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Speaker 3: that's a problem because actually, in some clinical settings, like

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Speaker 3: talking to a patient in their first language, it is

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Speaker 3: perfectly acceptable to do that. I would say, it's the

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Speaker 3: way the thing's been written, right, possibly, yeah, which is

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Speaker 3: caused the outrage.

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Speaker 25: And you can imagine that that clinicians are sometimes.

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Speaker 3: That I can imagine. Yes, Michael, is that a pair

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Speaker 3: assistment of it?

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Speaker 10: I think I think you've got to go back to

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Speaker 10: this sort of classical textbook communication definition, and the definition

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Speaker 10: of communication is when the message is understood by the receiver.

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Speaker 10: So if two staff are speaking to each other, you

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Speaker 10: know that that applies. And if a staff members talking

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Speaker 10: to a patient, that applies. So I mean there might

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Speaker 10: be cases we cut back and forth between English and

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Speaker 10: another language so that the receiver of the information knows

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Speaker 10: what the hell is going on. But I think submitting

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Speaker 10: the whole hospital to memos like this one from my kiddo,

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Speaker 10: I just think it's just a blunt It's a blunt instrument.

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Speaker 19: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with that. All Right, guys, listen, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much. Appreciate it from the pair of you.

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Speaker 3: That's a huddle this evening, Mike, when Ron Jordan Williams

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Speaker 3: seven away from six on.

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Speaker 1: Your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in your

1365
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: car on your drive home. Heather Duplicy allan drive with

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Speaker 1: one New Zealand one Giant Leap for Business News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Heather, I live in Herne Bay and because of the

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Speaker 3: Brisco Boss insisting on having his chop a pad separate

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Speaker 3: chopper pad, by the way, not the one that Anna

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Speaker 3: and Ali are trying to put in. I now, don't

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Speaker 3: buy it, Briscoes. Since it's just a rich prick wanting

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Speaker 3: their own way. It's disappointing, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what?

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Speaker 3: Here's a secret. I want my own way. Do you

1375
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Speaker 3: not want your own way? When like, did you buy

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: your house? And then when you bought your house, when

1377
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: you're like, you know what I want to do with

1378
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Speaker 3: I want to put a trampoline out here. I want

1379
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Speaker 3: to put a pool there. I want to put a

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Speaker 3: new deck. Don't you want to do on your property

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Speaker 3: what you want to do on your property?

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Speaker 9: Why?

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Speaker 10: What's this?

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Speaker 3: Is the same thing? And they want their own way,

1385
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: just like you want your own way, and there they

1386
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Speaker 3: are ways different so they can afford a different way.

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Speaker 3: Don'g tell me you wouldn't want a HOWI pad if

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Speaker 3: you had as much money as we, of course you would.

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Speaker 3: I would. Hey, somebody says, how on earth can you

1390
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Speaker 3: hate Melbourne? There's more to do there in five minutes

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Speaker 3: than there is some five months in all. I need

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Speaker 3: to feel like I need to explain this. I don't

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Speaker 3: hate Melbourne, Melbourne, Melbourne. What happens is when you go

1394
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Speaker 3: to visit family in another city and they live out

1395
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Speaker 3: in the burbs, you end holidaying in the burbs, don't you.

1396
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 3: That ain't nobody's dream of a good holiday? Do you

1397
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like your dream of a good holidays?

1398
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 3: You go to the coast in Italy, go on to

1399
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Speaker 3: Greek Island, I don't know, have a resort in fee

1400
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: like Fiji. Do you know what I mean? Like fun?

1401
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to go sit in Preston northern Melbourne for

1402
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: five days, do they? It's like going on holiday and

1403
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: attack and then eat. That's what I did. That's why

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Speaker 3: I hate Melbourne because of that. But apart from that,

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Speaker 3: Melbourne's actually quite a rad city. Speaking of which, very

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Speaker 3: excited to tell you. They said to the girls last night,

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Speaker 3: because there's three of us, we're lame and we have

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Speaker 3: a little concert club and we go see different concerts together.

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01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes we just take each other to different, you know,

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Speaker 3: new experiences. They're getting tired of the experiences that I'm

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Speaker 3: giving them in the concerts. Anyway, So I said to

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Speaker 3: one of them yesterday, I said, should we actually be

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Speaker 3: going to Oasis, like it feels like if we've got

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Speaker 3: a club about going to concerts and then one of

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Speaker 3: the biggest nineties brick pop bands is here in Australia

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Speaker 3: next year, should we go? And they were like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we should. Probably were going to Melbourne. You went in

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Speaker 3: and she bought us tickets. Three hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 3: for a Ticket's a lot of money for a ticket.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie and as probably just a crappy

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Speaker 3: standing ticket, but I'm very excited to tell you there's

1422
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Speaker 3: gonna be Mummies on tour next November. We're going to Malps,

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Speaker 3: back to the scene of the crime. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a fantastic My husband's really angry with me, so I

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Speaker 3: didn't ask his permission. First, Hey, Liberation for the Women

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Speaker 3: David Seymour.

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Speaker 1: Next, what's up? What's down? What were the major calls

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Speaker 1: and how will it affect the economy of the big

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Speaker 1: business questions on the Business Hour with ND the Duplicy

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Speaker 1: Allen and my Hr on us talk seb.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, Paul Bloxham

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Speaker 3: is going to tell us what he thinks that inflation

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Speaker 3: number is going to say tomorrow brad Olsen with the

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Speaker 3: latest house sales figures and it's the International Day of

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Speaker 3: Rural Women. So Roe Duncan on that shortly seven past six.

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Speaker 3: Now the Prime Minister is refusing to criticize you prosecution

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Speaker 3: guidelines by the Solicitor General. The new guidelines told prosecutors

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Speaker 3: to quote think carefully about particular decisions where a person

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Speaker 3: is Mary. The Solicitor General says she wanted to address

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Speaker 3: the disproportionate impact of the criminal justice system on Mary,

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 3: who are overrepresented as both victims and defendants. Chris Luxmo

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Speaker 3: was cautious about criticizing it.

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Speaker 23: Prosecution decisions should be color blind, but also the prosecution

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Speaker 23: guidelines are independently issued by this Solicitor General. They are

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Speaker 23: someone and I really can't get you should ask her,

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Speaker 23: but I mean, I can't really get into it because

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Speaker 23: I've got to respect the other elements of our democracy,

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Speaker 23: the judiciary.

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Speaker 3: As part of Leader David Seymore's with me. Now, Hey, David, Hey, Ever,

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Speaker 3: when you hear the prosecutors being told to think carefully

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Speaker 3: about particular decisions where a person is Marty, what do

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Speaker 3: you think that means?

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Speaker 11: It's disgraceful? Were you bore racism. If New Zealand is

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01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 11: based on anything, it's the simple idea that no matter

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Speaker 11: who you are and how you're born, you get who

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01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 11: rights and a fair shot at life. It is absolutely

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01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 11: un key we and there's no way that you can

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Speaker 11: apply it without applying in an individual case different treatment

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Speaker 11: based on race. So Chris lux is absolutely right the

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Speaker 11: independent and it's ultimately the Attorney General who's in charge.

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Speaker 11: I've raised this through staff with Judith's office and been

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Speaker 11: told that she's all over it. So we'll let the

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Speaker 11: proper process go through. But also let's be completely clear

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Speaker 11: that this is a government which has issued a circular

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Speaker 11: from Cabinet, the highest edit there really is in a government.

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Speaker 11: We do public services based on needs, not race, and

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Speaker 11: we expect everyone in the government to follow that.

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Speaker 3: What can Judas Colins do about it?

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Speaker 11: Well, ultimately she's responsible, along with Cabinet, for the appointment

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Speaker 11: of the Solicitor General. I would think that at the

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Speaker 11: very least should be asking how has the cabinet circular

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Speaker 11: on need not race been incorporated into this prosecutorial guideline,

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Speaker 11: and perhaps how does it comport with a few other

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Speaker 11: important things such as a Bill of rights, which says

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Speaker 11: it can't be discriminated against.

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Speaker 17: So you know, there's a.

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Speaker 11: There's a few questions, and to be honest, you know,

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Speaker 11: if you know Judith Collins, it's it's probably not a

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Speaker 11: meeting I'd want to be in.

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Speaker 3: As the solicitor General's position independent in the same way

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Speaker 3: that the judiciary is independent.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'll put it this way, if it comes down

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Speaker 11: to a particular prosecution, I would be the first to

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Speaker 11: screen blue Murder about a politician trying to get involved

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Speaker 11: in whether a person should be prosecuted. However, when it

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Speaker 11: comes to underlying principles, what did the people of New

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Speaker 11: Zealand vote for? They voted for a government that would

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Speaker 11: stop the increasing embedment, embedding of a culture where racial

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Speaker 11: discrimination is seen as not only acceptable, but perhaps desirable.

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Speaker 11: People voted to eradicate that attitude from our government. I

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Speaker 11: think recent events have shown it's quite deeply embedded, and

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Speaker 11: we're here to unembedd it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to understand just how independent this position is,

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Speaker 3: because I mean, I understand that your judiciary is independent

1495
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 3: when they're sitting on the bench and they make their decisions.

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Speaker 3: You guys, can't you guys can't climb in on that.

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Speaker 3: But is it the same with the Solicitor General's edits

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Speaker 3: like this?

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Speaker 11: Well, again, I would leave that up to Judith in

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Speaker 11: the way that she'd like to operate. But ultimately this

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Speaker 11: solicits the head of Crown Law, who are the government's

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Speaker 11: lawyers there to serve the government. And I'm sure Judith

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Speaker 11: so not.

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Speaker 3: The same level of independence.

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Speaker 11: Then David Well thought that the judiciary are a branch

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Speaker 11: of government along with the legislative branch, which is the Parliament.

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Speaker 11: Crown Law is part of the executive which is us

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Speaker 11: those ministers and Cabinet and the BHA, which is to say,

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Speaker 11: which is to say, the Ministry of Education.

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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister freaking out this morning and saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: I can't do anything about it, He's actually wrong because

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Speaker 3: actually the age Judith Collins can do something about this.

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Speaker 11: Well, I suspect it's a little bit like something that

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Speaker 11: comes up frequently around the Reserve Bank. Very important to

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Speaker 11: respect the independence of the Reserve Bank and their monetary

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Speaker 11: policy decisions. But it's also true that ultimately we appoint

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Speaker 11: the board, we ultimately appoint the Governor, and we set

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Speaker 11: the rules for them. So you can respect the autonomy

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01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 11: and independence of an organization, which I suspect is what

1520
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 11: Chris was getting asked. But also be really clear that

1521
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 11: if people come to the belief that electing a government

1522
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 11: doesn't actually make any differference because there's a whole lot

1523
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 11: of unelected people that will just do whatever they want

1524
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 11: no matter how you vote or who you vote for,

1525
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 11: that's when you get a real breakdown of trust and democracy.

1526
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 11: So while obviously there's some complexity and the way that

1527
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 11: these officers and officers operate, these are the elected politicians.

1528
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 11: At the end of the day, you're in charge. You

1529
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 11: vote for the government, and the government has to set

1530
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 11: the tone and make the calls, which I and Judith

1531
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 11: Collins is going to do on her return.

1532
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Speaker 3: Good luck with dealing with this lot, David appreciated David Seymour,

1533
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: leader of the AX Party. Jess must get frustrating dealing

1534
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: with these public servants. So it sounds like Uner's job

1535
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 3: is on the line, by the way, if she doesn't

1536
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 3: tow the line. Six thirteen.

1537
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: Ever, dul Kamala Harris.

1538
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 3: Has been accused of plagiarizing Martin Luther King in her

1539
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: book There's a Guy Who's Gone through it. His name

1540
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 3: is Stephan Weber. He's an Austrian academic. He's dubbed the

1541
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 3: plagiarism Hunter. He goes through books and just and publications

1542
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 3: and stuff, just finds some people have been plagiarizing and

1543
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 3: he reckons. There are dozens of examples Karmala Harris's book

1544
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 3: of plagiarism. The worst one, probably according to him, is

1545
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 3: and That. By the way, the book is the book

1546
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,879
Speaker 3: that launched her political career, so it was quite important

1547
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,480
Speaker 3: for her. It's called Smart on Crime, a career prosecutor's

1548
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 3: plan to make us safer, so it's actually quite old.

1549
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 3: The worst example of plagiarism appears to be an anecdote

1550
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 3: that she tells from her childhood during the Civil rights movement.

1551
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 3: She writes, my mother used to laugh when she told

1552
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: the story about a time I was fussing as a toddler.

1553
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 3: She leaned down to ask me, Carmela, what's wrong? What

1554
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: do you want? And I wailed back fweed him. Now,

1555
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: the story sounds a lot like a story that Martin

1556
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 3: Luther King told to Playboy magazine in nineteen sixty five.

1557
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 3: This is his story. I will never forget a moment

1558
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 3: in Birmingham, when a white policeman accosted a little Negro

1559
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 3: girl seven or eight years old who was walking in

1560
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 3: a demonstration with her mother. What do you want? The

1561
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: policeman asked her gruffly, and the little girl looked at

1562
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 3: him straight in the eye and answered, feed him. Very

1563
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 3: similar stories, what is surprised? Exactly the same? Almost Apart

1564
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 3: from that, there's also more. There's a whole bunch of

1565
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 3: lesser things, lengthy passages that appear to have been copied

1566
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: and pasted from Wikipedia, similar similarities in between passages in

1567
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: her book and articles that were produced by other news outlets,

1568
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 3: and some paragraphs appear to have been stolen from press

1569
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: releases put out by her own office, highlighting her successful

1570
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 3: prosecutions and including misleading embellishments. And you bet your life.

1571
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 3: The Republicans are loving a quarter past.

1572
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather dupic

1573
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 1: Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the

1574
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: HR platform for SME on newstalksb.

1575
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: Heather, I'm with you. The lighter sentences for a section

1576
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: of society will have the opposite effect. It will only

1577
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: increase crime for that group as they know that they

1578
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 3: will be punished less, which may, in fact, if people

1579
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: are thinking about punishment just before they actually do the crime.

1580
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that they do, but if they do,

1581
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 3: then it may well have that impact. It's eighteen past

1582
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 3: six now. It apparently takes an average of fifty days

1583
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 3: nowadays to sellar house in New Zealand, and prices are

1584
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 3: still largely flat. Inflementary infametrics principle economist Brad Olson's with

1585
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 3: me now, hey, Brad, good evening. Okay, so what's the

1586
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 3: market actually doing. Is it volatile or has it settled

1587
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 3: into a kind of a flat space.

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Speaker 27: Well, I mean it's broadly pretty flat at the moment,

1589
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 27: I think. I mean, there's was a little bit of

1590
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 27: evidence in the data that we got today from the

1591
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 27: Real Estate Institute suggesting that maybe there've been a little

1592
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 27: bit of a pop higher in prices in the month

1593
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 27: of September, but to be fair, that would be the

1594
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 27: first time we'd seen a monthly increase since April, so

1595
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 27: nearly half a year. Realistically, that means you've had six

1596
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 27: months of down and then one month of up, so

1597
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 27: really you're not going anywhere fast on the price front.

1598
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 27: I think the thing that gets me hither when we

1599
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 27: look through the housing market at the moment, and this

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 27: is going to be the challenge for sellers particularly. Not

1601
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 27: only is it taking fifty days on a seasonally adjusted

1602
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 27: basis to seller house, but there's about half a year's

1603
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 27: worth of house sales currently sitting on the market unsolved.

1604
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 27: So there's a lot of choice out there. Good if

1605
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 27: you're one of those limited number of buyers, but not

1606
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 27: so good if you're trying to sell a house because

1607
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 27: you're competing with everyone else to sell it.

1608
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: So I mean that obviously drives prices down, right, so

1609
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: should we expect prices to continue to fall?

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Speaker 27: What we are seeing at the moment is that the

1611
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 27: number of houses left on the market is high, but

1612
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 27: ever so slightly starting to either decrease or sort of

1613
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 27: track sideways. So I think we're likely to see house

1614
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 27: prices be fairly subdued. And I say that because you

1615
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 27: could see a few months of ups and a few

1616
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 27: months of downs at different points, But realistically, I don't

1617
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 27: think that you're going to see a whole art lot

1618
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 27: And that's sort of the big one. Because yes, interest

1619
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 27: rates are coming down, which of course should stimulate a

1620
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 27: bit more buyer activity, but realistically there's still a lot

1621
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 27: of people out there who are trying to sell a house,

1622
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 27: so for the moment, still more in the buyer's hands

1623
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 27: than in the sellars.

1624
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: Are you seeing that one month of price increases as

1625
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: a bit of a shift. Oh, it's a little bit

1626
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: too early to read into it.

1627
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 27: I mean, is it coincidence as at the start of

1628
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 27: something new, one month's worth of data probably doesn't tell us.

1629
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 3: It could be a little bit of it coming through.

1630
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 27: You've definitely heard a lot of people who are talking

1631
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 27: with a lot more optimism in the housing market, but

1632
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Speaker 27: I think we'll want to wait and see. Regardless, I

1633
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 27: don't think we're about to see the housing market really

1634
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 27: perk up. It's likely to just be sort of hovering

1635
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 27: for a little while.

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Speaker 3: Brad, what are you picking for the inflation number tomorrow?

1637
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Speaker 27: I think we're at two point two two point three,

1638
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 27: so sort of in that ballpark regardless. I mean, the

1639
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 27: numbers are likely to look a lot better in a sense,

1640
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 27: which is certainly encouraging. It's one of those things though

1641
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 27: part of that has been driven by the likes of

1642
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 27: petrol and similar so jury's out as to where we're

1643
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 27: going from here, but realistically, I think we're in a

1644
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 27: much better spot and that's encouraging news for the economy.

1645
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 27: More interest rate reductions on the way, so better things

1646
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 27: around the corner.

1647
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Yeah, you can't be more happy about it. Brad,

1648
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Brad Olsen, principal economist and Informetrics. Listen,

1649
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: if you're speaking of buying stuff, if you're in the

1650
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 3: market for a used car, there is a massive shortage

1651
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 3: of important used cars at the moment, which means prices

1652
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,560
Speaker 3: are going to go up. Apparently, the demand, and I

1653
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: think it's basically all of this year, has been way

1654
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 3: higher than what we've managed to pull into the country.

1655
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: We're about six and a half thousand imported secondhand vehicles short.

1656
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: That's about twenty five percent of demand, which is significant.

1657
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: This is according to a Japanese used in a vehicle importer.

1658
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 3: At the end of last month, end of September, there

1659
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: were sixty three percent fewer Japanese inports available for sale

1660
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 3: in the country than there were at the same time

1661
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 3: last year. The end of September last year obviously means

1662
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: bad time to be buying a used car because you're

1663
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 3: going to pay a little bit more than you actually

1664
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 3: want to for it. Great time to be selling a

1665
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: used car, though, Roe Duncan's next. Six to twenty two, Heather,

1666
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 3: I've been selling houses in Auckland for twenty five years.

1667
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: The volume of sales dropped in September, but a huge

1668
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 3: increase in listings. And this is despite interest rates dropping

1669
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: from seven point five percent in February to five point

1670
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 3: six percent today. Highly unlikely to see house price market

1671
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 3: pick up until one year. Fixed mortgage rates are around

1672
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 3: four percent. Pretty tough out there, I would agree. Six

1673
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 3: to twenty four.

1674
01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: The Rural Report on.

1675
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: Drive and filling in hosting the Country while Jamie is

1676
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 3: on holiday, Hello Rowe, Hello, how did you celebrate the

1677
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 3: International Day of Rural Women.

1678
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 28: Well, I had some pretty kick ass women on the

1679
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 28: show today, which was awesome. No Jamie Mackay, of course,

1680
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 28: he's in New York, living it up, seeing the New

1681
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 28: York next, going to the top of the Freedom Power

1682
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 28: so it was a man free zone. But now I

1683
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 28: was chatting to Emma poul and Katie Milner. Katie was

1684
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 28: the first female president of Federated Farmers. Emma was the

1685
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 28: first female New Zealand Young farmer of the year and

1686
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 28: Emma had found this amazing quote and I thought you

1687
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 28: would quite like this. It was a super old magazine

1688
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 28: and it said women that can cut the throat of

1689
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,799
Speaker 28: sheep and lift heavy loads will not make good future

1690
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 28: mothers of the children of our nation. And she said,

1691
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 28: you know that's what women were up against back in

1692
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 28: the day. You know, they couldn't be farmers. There was

1693
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 28: no place for them on farm. Their places at home

1694
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 28: raising the children. And says, look here I am. Here's

1695
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 28: Katie many many years later, cutting throats, lifting heavy loads

1696
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 28: and giving motherhood a damn good crack. And I just

1697
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 28: think they are amazing role models for anyone wanting to

1698
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 28: get involved in agriculture.

1699
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: We are very very cool. Speaking of doing things with sheep,

1700
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 3: we got we've got some awesome sharers in this country.

1701
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 3: Where they headed off to.

1702
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 28: Yeah, so they're off to Australia the fiftieth anniversary Trans

1703
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 28: Tasman Sharing and Wool Handling Series. We found the final

1704
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 28: members of the team to head to Australia. They're hitting

1705
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 28: there this week. The big competition is in Western Australia

1706
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 28: over Labor weekend. But we did have the first Trans

1707
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 28: Tasman events just on the weekend. Just been in Saturday

1708
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 28: at Wymatty and it was the blade sharing, you know,

1709
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 28: the ones with the shears, not the hand pieces doing

1710
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 28: it old school and luck first blood to the Kiwi

1711
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 28: solent type that continues in Western Australia.

1712
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 3: Yay, ro, thank you very much. Roe Duncan filling in

1713
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 3: on the country for Jamie McKay while he's on holiday.

1714
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: Hither there are a heck of a lot of second

1715
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: hand evs around. I've noticed that. Well, that's a particular

1716
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: kind of market though, Ben, isn't it. I'm not sure

1717
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 3: about what you just said about car prices. I got

1718
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 3: offered twenty five thousand dollars for my twenty twenty one Ranger.

1719
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 3: It's done one hundred and eighty thousand dollars. It's a

1720
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars loss. Oh, are you just a crap negotiator,

1721
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: because that could be that we have to take that

1722
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 3: variable out before we're absolutely sure that that's actually something

1723
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 3: there that we you know, it might be you, it

1724
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 3: might not be the market to be fair. Paul Bloxham

1725
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 3: was going to be us next because we've got the

1726
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 3: big inflation number out tomorrow and the question is do

1727
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 3: we go for a fifty basis point cut or a

1728
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 3: seventy five basis point cut in next month, So hopefully

1729
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: he can give us a bit of an insight there.

1730
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: In Australia, just a quick heads up, they are cracking

1731
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: down on sur charges on bank cards, so they should

1732
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 3: have announced by now that they are going to ban

1733
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: debit card fees. So if you use debit card in Australia,

1734
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: no surch charges on that now. Unfortunately, you still get

1735
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 3: the surcharge in Australia if you're using your credit card

1736
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: right for booking flights or whatever. Obviously you know we

1737
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: don't care about well, it doesn't affect us, We're not

1738
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 3: in Australia. However, I feel like it could be the

1739
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 3: start right, So you start with the debit cards, then

1740
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 3: you come for the credit cards, and that's what I

1741
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 3: want to see. I want to see. I want to

1742
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 3: get rid of those surcharges headlines.

1743
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: Next crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heathered

1744
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: Duples c Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to my HR,

1745
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: the HR solution for busy sms on news Talks EPI.

1746
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 3: Ken de Brady's going to be with us out of

1747
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 3: the UK and ten minutes time, I might just skype

1748
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: to him that I managed to get tickets to Oasis

1749
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 3: after all of the drama he went through. I just

1750
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: just delegated a friend and how easy was that. Hither,

1751
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: I just sold my twenty ten Toyo to Toyota Corolla

1752
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 3: station wagon for the same price I bought it for

1753
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 3: seven years ago. That's who you need to do your negotiation.

1754
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: That guy with a twenty ten Toyota Corolla, what it

1755
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Now, if you were listening to the huddle,

1756
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 3: you might have heard Jordan Williams just make a little

1757
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 3: quip about Tory and how Tory. It would help if

1758
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 3: maybe Tory can avoid you know, the government sending in

1759
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 3: a Crown monitor to Wellington City Council of Tory just

1760
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 3: turned up to work occasionally. Now, that's based probably on

1761
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: a couple of things. The first is, you know how

1762
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 3: we have talked about how Tory is always getting COVID. Well,

1763
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 3: somebody has actually gone and done an Official Information Act

1764
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: request on this. This is how concerned they are about

1765
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 3: her vitamin C deficiency and has found that yes, in fact,

1766
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 3: she has officially had COVID since she became mayor five

1767
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: times December twenty twenty two, July twenty three, November twenty three.

1768
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty close. Like she's just recovered on

1769
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 3: the second of August twenty three, and she's got again

1770
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 3: on the twenty seventh of November twenty three, twenty first

1771
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 3: of June twenty twenty four, recovers on the twenty third

1772
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 3: of June twenty twenty four, but she back at it

1773
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,520
Speaker 3: again twenty sixth August twenty twenty four through to September.

1774
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 3: And then of course they had the issue last week

1775
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 3: with the long term plan getting kind of kerfuffled and

1776
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 3: derailed by the airports shares sale thing.

1777
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 6: Tory.

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Speaker 3: Let's slip a little fact about that. Do you know

1779
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: where Tory was in the week leading up to probably

1780
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: the most consequential vote of her political career. Do you

1781
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 3: know where she was WTF or wf H whatever it is,

1782
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 3: working from home.

1783
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Speaker 29: I was working from home, so my office and I

1784
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 29: have very talented stuff, so at different levels it was

1785
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 29: you know, it's me, it's them talking to different people

1786
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 29: and negotiating a way forward. You know, we didn't get there,

1787
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 29: and it's okay, we just now have to go back

1788
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 29: to the drawing board.

1789
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't get there mate, because you were WFH.

1790
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 18: It's enough to make you say, WTF, isn't it absolutely bloody?

1791
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: Is?

1792
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: Did you think Tory should we should we dock her

1793
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: for the amount of times she's up? I feel like

1794
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 3: we got to that. But like if I was doing that,

1795
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 3: By the way, if you were doing that, as we

1796
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: would be demanding the sick notes from you, wouldn't we

1797
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 3: buy now?

1798
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 18: I would expect to be able to fly into work

1799
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Speaker 18: by a helicopter back and forth of her.

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Speaker 3: If yep, yep, I don't yep. Twenty two away from

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 3: seven you could pick up my confusion there. I think, Hey, listen, tomorrow,

1802
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 3: big day. We're going to find out whether inflation is

1803
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Speaker 3: officially back in the target band. It peaked obviously seven

1804
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 3: point three percent mid twenty two, down to three point

1805
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Speaker 3: three percent in the last quarter. Paul Blocks and as

1806
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 3: ahspec's chief economist and with us now, Paul, hello, Hello,

1807
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Speaker 3: you sitting with a consensus two point two two point

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01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 3: three percent two point one.

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01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're we're down there. We think that it's going

1810
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 7: to be quite a low number. It's going to fall

1811
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 7: quite a long way, and yes, of course back in

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01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 7: the target band and not too far off the center

1813
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 7: of the target band, which is all pretty good news really,

1814
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 7: and obviously part of that good news has already been

1815
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Speaker 7: reflected in the fact that the RBNZ has already delivered

1816
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Speaker 7: seventy five basis points of easing twenty five and then

1817
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Speaker 7: the super sized move we got from them last week.

1818
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 7: In terms of that fifty basis point mode, we think

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Speaker 7: that probably given if that happens, and if that's the

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01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 7: pace of disinflation that's happening in the economy, that the

1821
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,560
Speaker 7: RBNZ will probably easily deliver a large move again in

1822
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Speaker 7: November before Christmas. So we think another fifty basis point move,

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01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 7: that's what we're factoring in. Inflation's coming down because of

1824
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 7: course the New Zealand economy has been a very weak

1825
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Speaker 7: You've had an extended period of weakness in the economy

1826
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Speaker 7: for almost more basically two years, and so that has

1827
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Speaker 7: disinflated the economy and now the ARBENZ can focus on

1828
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 7: trying to pump prime growth by lowering interest rates, and

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Speaker 7: that's that's the New Zealand story, Paul.

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Speaker 3: There are already calls for even bigger than fifty basis

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Speaker 3: points seventy five basis points. Is that is that possible?

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Speaker 7: It's possible. It's certainly the case that given there's such

1833
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Speaker 7: a large gap between the November meeting and the February

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Speaker 7: meeting next year, you know, it's a really long period

1835
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Speaker 7: of time. And given that it's pretty clear that the

1836
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Speaker 7: economy is weak, the labor markets loosening, that inflation's coming down,

1837
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 7: that the Arby and Z could deliver further more, even

1838
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 7: more support than that. So it'll depend a little bit

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Speaker 7: on what that print looks like tomorrow, partly the composition

1840
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 7: of it as well. So inflation's coming down, most of

1841
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 7: this inflation we've seen so far has been goods prices

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Speaker 7: coming down, and there's still been this residual stickiness in

1843
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 7: services inflation, and so one of the key questions will

1844
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Speaker 7: be how much is services inflation still holding up, how

1845
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 7: much is it domestic inflation still a little bit sticky,

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Speaker 7: And that'll be a factor in the RBNS and thinking

1847
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 7: no doubt, and then of course looking at the sort

1848
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 7: of timely indicators of what happens in the jobs market,

1849
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 7: which they'll get another print of before we get to

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01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 7: the November meeting and someone, so, yes, it is possible.

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01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 7: Not what we're thinking is the central case. But what

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01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 7: we should all think is there are more rate cuts

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Speaker 7: that are coming soon, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Is there a justification potentially, because as you point out,

1855
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: I mean it is a massive gap between the end

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Speaker 3: of November when they come back in the new year.

1857
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: Is there a justification for actually perhaps prudently scheduling a

1858
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 3: few extra meetings and saying, look, it's unorthodox, but we're

1859
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: going to put a few in there because we may

1860
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: need to move even faster.

1861
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you can make the case that they

1862
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 7: could meet a bit more frequently. The RBA, for example,

1863
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 7: used to meet eleven times a year and has act

1864
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 7: recently because of its review over here in Australia, shifted

1865
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 7: the other way. They've gone from meeting eleven times a

1866
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 7: year to now they're going to be meeting eight times

1867
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 7: a year. Yeah, they're doing that now. So the general

1868
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 7: sort of trend across the world if you look at

1869
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 7: the major central banks, the key central banks in the

1870
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 7: developed economies, is to meet about eight times a year.

1871
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: I mean, what I'm saying with them, it's absolutely fine

1872
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 3: in normal times, right when you're not in war times

1873
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: to kind of maybe leave it at a liven or

1874
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: leave it at day or whatever. But the New Zealand

1875
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 3: economy is clearly and quite a bloody pickle where we

1876
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 3: are talking about fifty to seventy five basis point cuts,

1877
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 3: in which case should they not be on a war

1878
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: footing and saying because of the difficulty the economy is facing,

1879
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 3: we are going to the summer meet more frequently because

1880
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 3: we're in trouble.

1881
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 7: Well, that's for the RBNZ to assess. They could decided

1882
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 7: they wanted to have an extra meeting if they wanted to.

1883
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 7: The question the balancing act there is, is it better

1884
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 7: to call some sort of additional meeting because you are

1885
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 7: and therefore you would be conveying that you are really

1886
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 7: very very concerned about the economy. Or is it better

1887
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 7: to stick to the original schedule and move in larger

1888
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 7: increments if you feel like you need to exactly keep

1889
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 7: and feel and move in larger increments if you actually

1890
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 7: feel like you need to deliver more support. So I think,

1891
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 7: as a working assumption, as a sort of best assessment

1892
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 7: of what's likely to happen, I think they're more likely

1893
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 7: to move, you know, faster if they feel like they

1894
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 7: need to.

1895
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting stuff, a very interesting times, Paul, thank you

1896
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 3: so much, appreciate it. Paul Bloxham, agspc's chief economists hither,

1897
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with the

1898
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 3: big rate cuts from the RB and Z. Big cuts

1899
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 3: in quick succession is big trouble in the economy. Those

1900
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 3: sorts of cuts are indicating serious recession. He had zero

1901
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: chance of a soft landing here, Phil. That is why

1902
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 3: we're obsessed with it, because we realize we can see

1903
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 3: what trouble we're in, and we realize how fast these

1904
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 3: guys need to move. And actually, I'm I don't think

1905
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 3: it's a terrible idea for them to just acknowledge it.

1906
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 3: I mean, like, it's not going to be a surprise

1907
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 3: to you or I. If the Reserve Bank was like, hey, yeah,

1908
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 3: we're in trouble, we'd be like, really, what have we

1909
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 3: been telling you for ages? Look up and down the

1910
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 3: main streets of towns, Look in our suburbs, look at

1911
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 3: all the shops that have shut down. Right, it's not

1912
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 3: going to shock us. They're like, oh, we're in economic trouble.

1913
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 3: We should probably have some meetings over summer. I think

1914
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: we'd all be like, now you're earning your money. You

1915
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 3: haven't been up to now Adrian seventeen away from seven.

1916
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1917
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with hither dupic Allen and my

1918
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,839
Speaker 1: HR the HR solution for busy SMEs New Stalks.

1919
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: It be in the Brady UK correspondence with us now into.

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Speaker 10: Hello, Hello, have they great to speak to?

1921
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 16: Linda?

1922
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 3: Did you manage to get tickets to Oasis?

1923
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 6: Ha?

1924
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 30: No, I'm still waiting, but I know what will happen

1925
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 30: a week beforehand. Someone will get sick or someone's friend

1926
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 30: won't be able to make it, and Oasis tickets will

1927
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 30: miraculously appear.

1928
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 6: So I'm not panicking.

1929
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 3: I got tickets to Oasis today.

1930
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 30: Oh well done.

1931
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 3: You you need to come down here, come down to

1932
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 3: the southern part of the world because it's like easy

1933
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 3: down here, no problem, bring it on.

1934
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 30: But as I sit here in West London, as we

1935
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 30: head into winter, the thoughts of some time in New

1936
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 30: Zealand is very appealing.

1937
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we only paid one hundred and seventy five quid,

1938
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 3: so that's not even that bad.

1939
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 6: Well done?

1940
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 30: Well yeah, I mean they clearly haven't fleeced people in

1941
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 30: New Zealand like they have done in England and Ireland.

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Speaker 3: You guys, you guys got all the hype, in the

1943
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Speaker 3: excitement and you got ripped off and then by the

1944
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Speaker 3: settled down. The only trouble is they sittled down by

1945
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Speaker 3: the time they got here. The only trouble, of course, Inda,

1946
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Speaker 3: is there's no guarantee that they're still going to be

1947
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Speaker 3: performing by the time they get down here. Do you

1948
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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

1949
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I give it about a week.

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Speaker 30: Actually, in fairness, we'll see.

1951
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Speaker 3: We'll see hy so kias rolled out the big guns,

1952
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Speaker 3: is he?

1953
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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 30: So there's a big dinner last night at the Guildhall

1955
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Speaker 30: in London for all these business leaders from all over

1956
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 30: the world. He's trying to get them to invest in

1957
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 30: the UK and trying to drum up growth really for

1958
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 30: the economy because it badly needs it. They had British beef,

1959
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 30: there was a speech by the Prime Minister, there was

1960
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Speaker 30: by Elton John in person, and King Charles turned up

1961
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Speaker 30: for dinner as well. So quite an impressive show this

1962
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 30: country can still put on. What the business leaders make

1963
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 30: of it, I guess we'll find out when they start

1964
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 30: writing checks and actually investing in Britain. But there is

1965
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 30: a lot of investment coming. Starmer knows that for him

1966
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 30: to get this country back on its feet, moving again

1967
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 30: and flexing its muscles on the global stage, he needs growth.

1968
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Speaker 3: Yeah, big time. And so what I mean, they're obviously

1969
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 3: making a bunch of investments and announcements a hit of

1970
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Speaker 3: the budget. What's the biggest so far?

1971
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Speaker 30: The biggest one, that eye catching one is two billion

1972
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Speaker 30: dollars worth of investment going into London Stanstead Airport. Now,

1973
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 30: there's long been talk about Heathrow expanding in West London,

1974
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 30: London Heathrow Airport. I don't think that's ever gonna happen

1975
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 30: because it's so built up. They would be basically demolishing

1976
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 30: villages to make way for a third runway. And I

1977
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 30: think it's clear people have realized that there is airport

1978
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 30: capacity in the other kind of regional airports and stance

1979
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 30: that his prime for development. So two billion dollars of

1980
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 30: private equity capital going into that to make Stanstead better

1981
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 30: and bring it on. I mean, I just think there's

1982
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 30: so much optimism here, there's so much good to tap into.

1983
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 30: You just hope Stammer can just navigate his way through

1984
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 30: some of the pitfalls he's had recently.

1985
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Speaker 3: What do you make of that? Because I haven't had

1986
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 3: a chance to talk to you about that. I mean,

1987
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 3: the stuff has got real, real dusty, isn't it.

1988
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Speaker 17: Yea.

1989
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 30: Look, there's you've got this vicious conservative right wing media

1990
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 30: who will never ever accept they didn't even like Tony

1991
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 30: Blair and he was in power for eleven years. Yeah,

1992
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 30: and everything was far far better here when Blair was

1993
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 30: in charge. Look, Starmer's one hundred days in and they're

1994
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 30: all for getting rid of them already. There are certain

1995
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 30: sections of the right wing press. But I think judge

1996
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 30: him after five years, not one hundred days. And look

1997
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 30: he accepted Taylor Swift tickets. Yeah, he should have sat

1998
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 30: at home with a big book of economics and studied

1999
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 30: all day and maybe had a coffee and gone for

2000
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 30: a walk and gone back to the books. You know,

2001
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 30: he's only human. I do think he messed up with

2002
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 30: the donations from Lord Ali. I mean, if you're earning

2003
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 30: what three hundred and seventy k and Z the year,

2004
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 30: you should be able to buy your own clothes. And

2005
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 30: you know, honestly, you know, forty grand's worth of clothing

2006
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 30: donations coming in from a billionaire pier. It's not a

2007
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 30: great look when you're meant to be the leader of

2008
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 30: the party of the working people.

2009
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you make a very very good point. Hey,

2010
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,839
Speaker 3: what do you make of Prague deciding its head absolutely

2011
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 3: enough of the British Stag parties.

2012
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,839
Speaker 30: I absolutely love this story and good on them, because

2013
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 30: you travel around European cities and the last thing you

2014
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 30: want to see is a whole load of English blokes

2015
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 30: dressed up as superheroes, singing football songs at foreign girls

2016
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 30: and drinking larger till they fall over. We've seen so

2017
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 30: many bad cases of people, extreme cases granted, urinating on

2018
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 30: war memorials in Estonia and Lithuania, and the people of

2019
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 30: the Czech Republic have just had enough. What they're doing

2020
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 30: now is they're banning organized pub crawls from ten pm

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01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 30: until six am, and they're getting rid of all the

2022
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 30: kind of stuff that attracts these Stag parties in huge numbers.

2023
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,919
Speaker 30: So I've been to Prague. It's a beautiful city, very cultured,

2024
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 30: and that's the word they're looking for. They want cultured visitors.

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01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 30: I think they've had enough of you know, Batman and

2026
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 30: Robin and Superman and the lads all heading off from

2027
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 30: South Wales for a weekend to during twenty five pints

2028
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 30: a day came over fair enough.

2029
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 3: Into thank you as always appreciated, look at yourself into

2030
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,919
Speaker 3: Brady UK correspondent hither the new season of the Diplomat

2031
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,839
Speaker 3: is coming to Netflix soon. Thank you, Will Wills remember

2032
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 3: that I quite enjoyed it, and he agrees with me.

2033
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 3: It's a good show. Speaking of which, actually, while we're

2034
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 3: on things, I've been meaning to tell you to watch

2035
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 3: The Perfect Couple. If you haven't watched The Perfect Couple

2036
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 3: starring Nicole Kentman who has had way too much blastic surgery.

2037
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Ify because girl, I can see those lips are not real.

2038
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 3: Go and watch it. Scott what's his name? What's his name?

2039
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 3: The Israeli actor Shreeber, Shreeber LEVI leave Shreeber. Thank you? Yeah,

2040
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 3: I thank god I got there by myself. Did Actually

2041
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 3: nobody told me that leave. Shreeber's in it, and Dakota

2042
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 3: Fannings in it, and you're a kolkaman. It's awesome. Go

2043
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 3: and watch that. You won't regret this at all. You

2044
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 3: will not regret this recommendation Netflix. Thank you eight Away

2045
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

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Speaker 1: on The Business Hour with Heather Duplicity, Allen and my HR,

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Speaker 3: Sticks Away from seven. Listen A couple of things to

2053
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 3: quickly get you across right. First of all, the Google

2054
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 3: and government spat is getting very interesting. It turns out

2055
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 3: that the government that that Google was so angry with

2056
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 3: the because you know what the government's doing, right you're

2057
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 3: across this. They want to force Google and Facebook all

2058
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 3: those guys to pay for the news that they basically

2059
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 3: use for free from the media companies. Now Google is

2060
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 3: so upset about it, apparently it threatened to cut New

2061
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 3: Zealand out from out of a global product launch this year.

2062
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 3: They wrote to Paul Goldsmith and said New Zealand has

2063
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 3: now I think this was in June. New Zealand has

2064
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 3: now as of this week, been excluded from a major

2065
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 3: global consumer and business product launch we had planned for

2066
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: the country this year, So I don't even know what

2067
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 3: the product launch was or if it even happened. Yet

2068
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 3: can't have been that exciting because otherwise we would have known.

2069
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 3: We'd have been like, why didn't we get that? No,

2070
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 3: we didn't do that, did we? So to Google anyway,

2071
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 3: then they've made all the threats and stuff. They're going

2072
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 3: to pull money from the media. Apparently they're still talking

2073
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 3: to the and they try to go they try to

2074
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 3: go to LUSO. They were like to Goldie Paul Goldsman,

2075
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 3: they were going to talk to the Prime Minister and

2076
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 3: they wrote to the Prime Minister and they we won

2077
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: a meeting and he was like nay, you're going to

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01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 3: meet with Goldie.

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01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 13: Nah.

2080
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 3: So they put in their place anyway, so they're still

2081
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 3: chatting behind the scenes. Keep an eye on that. This

2082
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 3: is fantastic news. If you know Wellington, you'll know the

2083
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 3: city to see bridge, you know that goes across the

2084
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 3: keys from Civic Square to the lagoon where all the

2085
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 3: little like stingrays are and stuff. They're gonna knock it down.

2086
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 3: Thank god, it's a seismic it's a seismic risk. But

2087
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 3: also it is hideous. It looks like some dystopian thing

2088
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 3: from a Mad Max film where the children have been

2089
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 3: left to run the show and they've gone and salvaged

2090
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 3: all these like bits of drift wood and crap from

2091
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 3: the beach and they've built this heavier structure. That's what

2092
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 3: it looks like. You're driving through the city and you're like, oh,

2093
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 3: this is a nice look. What the hell said shipwreck

2094
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 3: in the sky. It's hideous. They're gonna knock it down.

2095
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 3: Not everybody loves that. There are a bunch of people

2096
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 3: who love ugly things and they're gonna try to save it.

2097
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 3: But I am so stoked. I hate that bridge. Just

2098
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 3: build something basic, put some put some basic normal. Let's

2099
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 3: put a normal bridge there for God's sake. Never mind

2100
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 3: this drift wood crap ants.

2101
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 18: Maybe we can sell it to George Miller for as

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01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 18: next Mad Max movie and then the money can get

2103
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 18: fixing the pipes or something.

2104
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 3: Wonder You should be the Crown observer, Oh with ideas

2105
01:38:59,040 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 3: like that.

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01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 18: Oh you know what, I tell you what, I'll put

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01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 18: my hand up for it and it'll be very entertaining

2108
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 18: watching your Wellington City Council meetings. I do actually enjoy

2109
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 18: that our wonder Wall by Oasis to play us out

2110
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 18: tonight because our congratulations. We were talking about how the

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Speaker 18: New Zealand Herald online sports he had got his Oasis

2112
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 18: tickets yesterday. Now you've got yours, well done.

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Speaker 3: And Alex gave me the idea of Alex. I was like,

2114
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 3: if Alex can do it, I can do it.

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Speaker 18: And I tell you a lot of people did. The

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01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 18: Melbourne and Sydney shows tickets that went on sale today

2117
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 18: both sold out. So they've added another Melbourne show now

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01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 18: they are now going to be three Melbourne shows and

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01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 18: two Sydney shows and the tickets to that Melbourne show

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Speaker 18: go on sale on Friday. So if you want to

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01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 18: be like Heather and Alex and go along to see Oasis,

2122
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 18: that's when you need to tell me what.

2123
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 3: About Did you see our boss Jason, who just is

2124
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 3: such a contrarian dick sometimes, isn't he? And he came

2125
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 3: in and he was like, well, they're going to come

2126
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 3: to New Zealand. You know they're going to announce that

2127
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 3: like as like you wasted all your money on gold

2128
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:46,839
Speaker 3: to Australia.

2129
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 18: Does he have the inside word?

2130
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 4: Does he?

2131
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 22: Oh?

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01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 3: He's a Paine. He's just that guy. He's like, if

2133
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 3: you go You're like, oh, I really like watching the Diplomat.

2134
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 3: He's like, nah, I really enjoyed that party. Na I

2135
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:01,799
Speaker 3: bought cis. Where are are you gonna play? Jason s Vauso,

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Speaker 3: I can't wait. Bum me out, enjoy evening, See you tomorrow.

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