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Speaker 2: Morning Thursday morning. Should we be selling more state housing stock?

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Speaker 2: Infect should we be selling all of it? Trump's basically

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Speaker 2: trying to fix the Argentinian election. We'll look at that

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Speaker 2: this morning. New numbers on big airfare, increases, the battle

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Speaker 1: The agenda Thursday.

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Speaker 2: The sixth thing of October. Great to have your company.

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Speaker 2: So he mus handed back four hostages bodies Israel says,

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Speaker 2: one of them.

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Speaker 3: Ain't ours clear when we say this come us?

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Speaker 4: The terror organization is required to uphold its commitments to

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Speaker 4: the mediators and return all of our hostages as part

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Speaker 4: of the implementation of this agreement. We will not compromise

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Speaker 4: on this, and we will spare no effort until our

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Trump has said that BB's has made be Be

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Speaker 2: not the easiest to work with, and yeah, Who's responded, Well,

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Speaker 5: That because I'm very tough on the matters that pretend

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Speaker 5: to my country's future. When I believe that what I'm

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Speaker 5: And that's my job. My job is to protect the

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Speaker 5: Jewish state and assure the future of the Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: To Argentinia, we have Mlai. This is the libertarian leader

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Speaker 2: who's doing all the big reforms. Got some midterms coming up,

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Speaker 2: and Trump has stepped up with twenty billion dollars in aid.

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Speaker 2: This is basically to bail out the currency, and he's

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Speaker 6: If he loses, we are not going to be generous

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Speaker 3: We're going to work very.

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Speaker 6: Much with the president. We think he's going to win,

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Speaker 6: he should win, and if he does win, we're going

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Speaker 6: not going to waste our time because you have somebody

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Speaker 2: They've got the mega strike coming next week, which is

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Speaker 2: all very exciting, but they've basically been at war but

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Speaker 2: this morning, and he hates it. They hate it, I

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Speaker 2: should say. Whenever he says how much they get paid,

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Speaker 2: them at Papa today. Here's a question for you this morning,

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Speaker 2: Ten on News talksb We'll head to Dallas in the

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Speaker 2: Five twelve at Tyndall's R three sixty thing. This drama

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Speaker 2: Or if I go with Tyndall and the Saudis then

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Speaker 3: Extinct species for today.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you've seen Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 7: We occasionally get that reference, but it's just like Jurassic

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Speaker 7: There's actually more genetic distance between our two dire wolves

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Speaker 2: Okay, and how long before we could see it running

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Speaker 3: So I think it'll be a ten year project.

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Speaker 3: And so that is the phase that we're into the project.

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Speaker 2: been Lamb from Colossal Bioscience as the CEO and co founder.

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Speaker 2: Breaking news this morning, a statement from the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: That's the right Honorable Jim Bolger, former Prime Minister of

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Speaker 2: All right, So the numbers wrong, numbers wrong? Billy, appreciate

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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier the US provoking visas for foreigners. So

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Speaker 2: morning morning, right, Central Otago Council elect We've got a

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Speaker 10: This is Dave Mackenzie, who has only just been voted

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Speaker 10: How's your weather, Charles, developing here bit clearing to find

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Speaker 10: this afternoon. We have that strong wind watch for Dunedin.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Callum Courtney winter for christ Here it's Courtney,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning, Ryan. People want the government to

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Speaker 11: Yes, So the Phillipstown Community Hub is closing in March

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Speaker 12: Why.

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Speaker 2: How's your weather?

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Speaker 11: Partly cloudy, a few showers from late this morning, possibly

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Courtney. That's got to welling with Max.

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Speaker 2: Morning Max, Good morning Ryan. Have you raised eyebrows about

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Speaker 13: It does make warships, and it is now going to

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Speaker 13: make a couple of nice fairies for us with a

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Speaker 13: bar and cafe. Our newsrooms are dug up an independent

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Speaker 13: US Bipartisan Research Institute report that recently warned that international

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Speaker 13: customers of these guys are ultimately supporting China's defense industry.

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Speaker 13: But a deal's a deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My hot take for you would be that any Chinese

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Speaker 2: company is linked to the station, you know, you couldn't exactly,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't be buying anything on it will not be

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Speaker 2: supporting the Chinese government somehow. And what are they things

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Speaker 2: is going to happen. They're going to spy on tourists going.

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Speaker 13: Up plants and the listening devices on the Ferry. Listen

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Speaker 13: to Wellingtonian's complain as you wear that cloudy Period's Gusty

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Speaker 13: Northerly's nineteen.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you and Wendy is in the hot

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Speaker 2: seat today. Wendy, good morning, good to see you. What's

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Speaker 2: going on with Audio? Were hosting a big earthquake?

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Speaker 14: Wow, I know it's that day. What is October sixteen

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Speaker 14: the country's national earthquake and tsunami evacuation drill, known as

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Speaker 14: the Shakeout. It'll see seven hundred and thirty thousand of

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Speaker 14: US drop cover and hold this morning. It's the highest

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Speaker 14: number of sign ups in six years. People across the

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Speaker 14: country will carry out the drill at nine thirty this

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Speaker 14: morning with a live event happening in Auckland's audero at

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Speaker 14: the Beach. Audio Beach Primary School is hosting the event.

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Speaker 14: The National Emergency Management Agency's John Price says earthquake risk

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Speaker 14: is clearly at the front of New Zealander's mines and

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Speaker 14: if you're not an audero, it'll be a self run event.

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Speaker 14: No no, no buzz on your phone, but you will

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Speaker 14: know to run that event yourself. At nine thirty, schools,

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Speaker 14: I guess and businesses may take part.

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Speaker 2: Did you know about this before you came in. I

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Speaker 2: just say I did not know no idea. All right,

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Speaker 2: So nine thirty we're jumping under the desk, Wendy.

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Speaker 14: That's exactly right we're doing at nine thirty. How's that weather, Well,

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Speaker 14: we're looking at a fine day, a few cutor clouds

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Speaker 14: around in, a few showers late morning day. We'll clear

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Speaker 14: by the evening though. We've got a westerly wind and

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Speaker 14: a high today, have nineteen degrees.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you. I got an update on the French

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Speaker 2: for you. The hot mess that is France and it's

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Speaker 2: political and economic situation at the moment. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we will also get to the US and we will

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Speaker 2: talk about state housing. Should we own all the state

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Speaker 2: houses we currently do or sell them all off? News

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Speaker 2: Talks VB. According to six News Talks, eb Let's return

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Speaker 2: to France because such a hot mess. It's fascinating to watch.

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Speaker 2: She had the prime minister out, then the prime minister

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Speaker 2: back in. Now the pension reforms are on ice anyway.

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Speaker 2: The new bit is the socialist They've come out overnight

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Speaker 2: saying they want a wealth tax. I mean they've been

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Speaker 2: saying that for a while, but now they think they

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Speaker 2: can actually get somewhere with it. A wealth tax of

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Speaker 2: two percent on the super rich. Basically, they've got to

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Speaker 2: get money from somewhere. They're in a really, really bad way.

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Speaker 2: How bad is the debt I had a look yesterday,

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Speaker 2: so it's the highest Eurozone well third highest in the

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Speaker 2: Eurozone behind Greece and Italy, one hundred and fourteen percent

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Speaker 2: of the economy. Add to the fact that you basically

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Speaker 2: can't pass a budget there to bring that down, and

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Speaker 2: the market say okay, well you're more of a risk

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Speaker 2: to lend to. Then they demand higher interest rates on

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Speaker 2: the debt the bonds, so a German bond will carry

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Speaker 2: interest rate about two point seven percent. The French government

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Speaker 2: needs to pay three and a half interest for its debt.

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Speaker 2: So the debt that you have in the debt that

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Speaker 2: they keep on borrowing gets more expensive to service, the

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Speaker 2: more risk the more you pay, the more you pay,

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Speaker 2: the more risky you are. It's kind of a spiral.

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Speaker 2: So the moral of the story is basically, don't be

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Speaker 2: like the French.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance.

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Speaker 2: Peace of mind for New Zealand business shut down continues.

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Speaker 2: We're in the US education Ministry staff apparently can't log

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Speaker 2: into the working emails even and let's get a Ni Kappa,

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Speaker 2: a US correspondent, Nick, what's the latest.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Ryan, it's a mess. It's day fifteen now, so

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Speaker 12: we're into the third week. Still no end in sight.

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Speaker 12: I mean in terms of the votes. The Zenate is

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Speaker 12: voting again today, but for the Senate, they're hoping this

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Speaker 12: is going to be the ninth time. Lucky, because the

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Speaker 12: Republicans are putting forward the exact same bill that has

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Speaker 12: already been rejected eight times by the Democrats. Now they

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Speaker 12: want healthcare subsidies extended for millions of Americans. The Republicans

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Speaker 12: are saying no, and there's basically no middle ground to

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Speaker 12: try and force their hand. The Trump administration has now

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Speaker 12: frozen about thirty billion dollars worth of projects that are

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Speaker 12: in Democrat run areas of the country, and of course,

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Speaker 12: day by day the impact is getting worse. We've already

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Speaker 12: seen tons of flights across the country delayed, some canceled.

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Speaker 12: But then there's the issue of pay. Federal employees simply

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Speaker 12: aren't getting paid. As you mentioned, education staff can't log

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Speaker 12: into accounts. We've even seen thousands of people getting laid off,

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Speaker 12: and there are now warnings that this could be the

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Speaker 12: longest shut down in US history. The longest was thirty

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Speaker 12: five days during Donald Trump's first term. So we've got

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Speaker 12: twenty days to run until we get there. But the

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Speaker 12: thinking is there may be no common ground and therefore

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Speaker 12: we'll get to the thirty five day mark pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Not a record you want to be sitting neck. What

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Speaker 2: about Trump and his bailout of the Argentinians openly now

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Speaker 2: saying he's just trying to help a brother out basically.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's quite incredible. There is strings attached to

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Speaker 12: this money. It's a twenty billion dollar currency swapp. It's

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Speaker 12: trying to stabilize Argentinan's financial markets that are in turmoil.

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Speaker 12: This is one world leader that Donald Trump really does like.

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Speaker 12: He was invited to Trump's inauguration in January, just one

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Speaker 12: of two world leaders. So Donald Trump happy to give

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Speaker 12: him the money, but saying that there are these strings attached,

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Speaker 12: basically that Malay's party has to win the upcoming midterm elections.

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Speaker 12: The US approval, Trump said are somewhat subject to who

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Speaker 12: wins the election. He said the US would not waste

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Speaker 12: our time helping Argentina if Malay loses. And remember, of course,

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Speaker 12: this is the US president who's previously lashed out against

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Speaker 12: foreign interference in US elections. The Democrats, unsurprisingly, they're not happy.

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Speaker 12: They're criticizing Donald Trump, accusing him of ignoring the shutdown

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Speaker 12: domestic problems here. But also there's criticism because this is

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Speaker 12: benefiting some of Donald Trump's closest allies, The Treasury Secretary

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Speaker 12: Scot Percent, a whole load of his friends are going

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Speaker 12: to benefit as a result of this bailout deal.

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Speaker 2: Nick Harper, our US correspondent, it is eleve minutes away

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Speaker 2: from six Ryan Bridge, Can you report Rickens' textpayers are

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Speaker 2: getting a raw deal on state housing. The New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Initiative sees kying or order seventy seven thousand homes. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we own seventy seven thousand homes cost us twice as

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Speaker 2: much as the privates sick there and they're asking why

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Speaker 2: do we bother owning them. Dr Bryce Wilkinson's the report author,

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Speaker 2: joins us this morning, Bryce, good morning, is good morning.

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Speaker 2: What exactly is costing us twice as much?

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Speaker 15: It's operating the seventy ship and powers and houses, so

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Speaker 15: that's repairs and maintenance and staff support and sort of

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Speaker 15: turning over tenants, give the new tenants, organizing new houses,

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Speaker 15: that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: How have you come to that number? How have you

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Speaker 2: compared it to a private number? I went on.

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Speaker 15: I found that there is a real estate room called

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Speaker 15: Lodge real Estate which does a lot of helping landlords

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Speaker 15: and buying and selling houses and has had indicative benchmarking

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Speaker 15: costructures for private landlords for reading our properties.

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Speaker 2: And so that's what I've used to.

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Speaker 15: Get the numbers for AURA. I've used the numbers in

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Speaker 15: their annual the last published annual report, which is the

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Speaker 15: one for twenty twenty three to twenty four. And what

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Speaker 15: I say in the report is that it would be

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Speaker 15: good if Caning and AURA itself commission to hire independent

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Speaker 15: experts to do its own authoritatia more authoritative beachmark comparisons

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Speaker 15: because it's got more of desegregated data than it publishes

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Speaker 15: and the end report books.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying a better job than I. You're saying well,

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Speaker 2: and you're saying that the privacyctor does a better job

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Speaker 2: than the government does in terms of the cost.

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Speaker 5: What do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: Then sell them to community to third parties.

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Speaker 15: Yes, there's an extent of survey of high oversease countries

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Speaker 15: do it, and there's an enormous diversity. So there's housing associations.

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Speaker 15: They're very prevalent in some of the European countries. We've

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Speaker 15: got we're getting that way a bit ourselves of community

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Speaker 15: housing providers. We could do a lot more of that.

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Speaker 15: The UK transferred ownership to a lot of the tenants

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Speaker 15: who are occupying them, over one million homes there, so

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Speaker 15: that's another option. But the important thing is to empower

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Speaker 15: the tenants and if they if they get captured and

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Speaker 15: caused in the state House, the neighbors might be really

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Speaker 15: unsavory with peers might not be doing being done and

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Speaker 15: that sort of trapped there. If they can just move,

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Speaker 15: take the money and move, find another land all over,

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Speaker 15: a housing association or CHP, then they've got more options,

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Speaker 15: more in control of their own large all right.

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Speaker 2: Bryce appreciated that. Doctor Bryce Wilkinson, who's the report author

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Speaker 2: from the New Zealand Initiative. It's eight minutes away from six.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on early edition with r VS Supercenter explore

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Speaker 1: r VS accessories and servicing all in one news talks.

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Speaker 2: The'd be it's six minutes away from six. Hey, the

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Speaker 2: Chinese have got the Chinese banks have got some of

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Speaker 2: the cheapest rates out there for mortgages at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I see BC's launched a four point twenty five percent

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Speaker 2: one year fixed mortgage rate. If you're like me and

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Speaker 2: you're kind of in the market and looking around, then

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Speaker 2: these cheap Chinese ones attempting Bank of China's next. It's

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Speaker 2: twenty basis points lower, many points lower than the Ossie

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Speaker 2: banks that are offering it. And then you go, well,

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Speaker 2: can you trust borrowing from one? Apparently you can, but

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Speaker 2: apparently it's very much an Auckland thing. They don't really

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Speaker 2: offer it to the rest of the country. And news

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Speaker 2: talks he'd be it is five to two now for

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Speaker 2: it much from the studio morning, Mike Morning. So you

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Speaker 2: would have obviously interviewed in Bulgium many times.

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Speaker 16: Over the years, many many, many many times.

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Speaker 2: He's ninety years old this year and passed away overnight.

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Speaker 2: For those just joining us.

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Speaker 16: Sad, sad, but not tragic, because nineties ninety Zeman him

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Speaker 16: this morning. He it was a funny old thing he was,

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Speaker 16: I suppose when we always go how big was he?

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Speaker 16: How good, you know, what's the legacy. And he won

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Speaker 16: three terms, so not many do. So there's that ended

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Speaker 16: in tears. Yeah, I don't know if you remember it,

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Speaker 16: but he was.

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Speaker 2: It was where it all began.

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Speaker 16: It was it started that theory you never leave the

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Speaker 16: country in troubled times. Because he had left the country

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Speaker 16: to go to Chogham and at that point Shipley was

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Speaker 16: rounding up the numbers and by the time he got

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Speaker 16: back he knew it was all. It was Nimes at Christmas, Yeah,

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Speaker 16: it was and so and of course part of the

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Speaker 16: problem was he was an advocate for MMP and as

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Speaker 16: a result of MMP Winston, who of course once upon

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Speaker 16: a time was a member of the National Party until

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Speaker 16: it all when you know, it became problematic. So it

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Speaker 16: was one of those coalition things that never quite went

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Speaker 16: to and interesting, as history repeats itself, one of the

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Speaker 16: things that drove Shipley was there was a sense of

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Speaker 16: a lack of direction and a lack of action, irony

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Speaker 16: of ironies, and so she was sick of it, so

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Speaker 16: they went for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to hear him talk about Winston, that is,

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Speaker 2: he's reflecting on his relationship with him over the years.

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Speaker 2: You know, saying it was it.

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Speaker 16: It's funny how you remember things in hindsight.

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Speaker 2: I've been remembering. I must have been about seven or eight,

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Speaker 2: and my first memory of sort of anything political was

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Speaker 2: going to Wellington team New Zealand had won the America's

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Speaker 2: Cup and there was a big parade and I can

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Speaker 2: just remember all the ticket tape and he was there,

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Speaker 2: Jim Boljer and shook my hand and I'm inmber coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, just being absolutely amazed that the what acent.

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Speaker 16: Did he use? Because the famous thing about Old was

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Speaker 16: every time he went overseas he was in about twenty

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Speaker 16: four hours developed the accents of the country he was in.

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Speaker 16: It was the funniest thing. But anyway, ironically on complete

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Speaker 16: the other Man, we happened to have Bill English on

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Speaker 16: the program.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't speak publicly very often these days. No, he doesn't.

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Speaker 16: Ah, So he had a good type working relationship with him.

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Speaker 16: So well, we'll spend some time with him later.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. All right, Mike's with you next. I'll be back

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Speaker 2: with you tomorrow for a Friday morning. Have a great day,

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Speaker 2: all you.

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Speaker 3: Person over again

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