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Speaker 2: Head been well, you're welcome back to Iran today the

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Speaker 2: drones had LNG and oil facilities and the Americans warn

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Speaker 2: of more casualties. Got some good news on the economy,

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Speaker 2: both on money and jobs. Liam Lawson in ahead of

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Speaker 2: Melbourne this weekend as if one returns for twenty six,

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Speaker 2: Catherine and France Rods in the UK pasking welcome to

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Speaker 2: the day, seven past six bitter back and Ford yesterday

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Speaker 2: over the legality of blowing people up in other countries,

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Speaker 2: Australia fell over themselves to avoid answering the question, as

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Speaker 2: did our PM on the show yesterday. Reality is it's

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Speaker 2: probably not legal. Or if Stephen Joyce was running the place,

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Speaker 2: he might have suggested it's pretty legal. But by the

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Speaker 2: time you waded through Helen Clark's point he headed outrage

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Speaker 2: and listened to the Australians and our politicians talk legality,

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Speaker 2: you fairly quickly discovered surely none of it really matters.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in what court is any of this ending

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Speaker 2: up answer none equally the US when as insipid as ever,

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Speaker 2: plenty of words, lots of hot air, and nothing of

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Speaker 2: any substance. Congress and Washington they want an explanation, as

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Speaker 2: though that makes any difference. Traditionally, of course, you building

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Speaker 2: the lights, you gather the troops, you march forward in Unison.

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Speaker 2: No such thing this time, mind you, what they did

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Speaker 2: last time? They were busy telling us that were weapons

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Speaker 2: of mass destruction, that was their eminent threat. How did

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Speaker 2: that turnout? Had a coalition to the willing for that one?

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Speaker 2: Didn't they are you will note latterly or reluctantly or

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Speaker 2: both starers allowed as bases to be used for defense.

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Speaker 2: Germany and France were on board. And that's the Trump way,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Basically you pull the trigger and line up

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Speaker 2: the team. Afterwards, Lindsey Graham had a point when he

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Speaker 2: mentioned the weak will of Europe Iran is the world's problem.

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Speaker 2: Remember not just Americas, but as usual, it's the Americans

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Speaker 2: that need to lead the way. By arguing as Clark

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Speaker 2: and various Democratic Congress people do about rules and courtesies,

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Speaker 2: they fail to grasp the reality of the moment, like

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Speaker 2: it or not. The bloke running the joint is a

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Speaker 2: combination of brilliant and mad and fearless, remembering, of course

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Speaker 2: this could turn to shite as it's done previously. But

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Speaker 2: not interested in committees and questions and coalitions small night.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't interested in foreign walls either until he was.

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Speaker 2: No matter what side you're on, the hero and now

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Speaker 2: reality is Iran is getting blind to pieces and arguing

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Speaker 2: about consultations and old world rules, fails to read the

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Speaker 2: present and the hero now is simple. The Trump rules

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Speaker 2: trump everything else.

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Speaker 1: News of the world.

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Speaker 3: In ninety seconds, he's.

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Speaker 2: Giving an update. I'll have some highlights for you in

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Speaker 2: a couple of moments. About an hour ago, he rolled

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Speaker 2: out a Secretary of War to do some jaw bony.

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Speaker 4: Unlike so many of our traditional allies who wring their

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Speaker 4: hands and clutch their pearls, hemming and hawing about the

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Speaker 4: use of force America regardless of what so called international

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Speaker 4: institutions say, is unleashing the most lethal and precise air

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Speaker 4: power campaign in history.

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Speaker 2: Military or warning Americans or warming them up to the

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Speaker 2: idea that this is not going to be ober and days.

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Speaker 5: Military objectives at Sankam and the Joint Force have been

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Speaker 5: taskits will take some time to achieve and in some

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Speaker 5: cases will be difficult.

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Speaker 3: And gritty work. We expect to take additional losses.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the Americans lost three planes at the night

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Speaker 2: of friendly fire.

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Speaker 6: The US Air Force fighter jets were mistakenly shot down

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Speaker 6: by Q eighty air defenses. All six air crew ejected

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Speaker 6: safely and have been safely recovered and are in a

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Speaker 2: The Americans. Right, hen Man, he's been out to see

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Speaker 2: some of the bomb image in Israel.

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Speaker 7: This regime, this terrorist regime of the kind we've never

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Speaker 7: seen in the world. If they get nuclear weapons and

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Speaker 7: the means to deliver them ballistic missiles, intercontinental ballistic missiles,

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Speaker 7: they will threaten all of.

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Speaker 2: Humanity in Europe. Looks like France and Germany are being

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Speaker 2: dragged into some degree anyway, UK I certainly is.

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Speaker 8: It is my duty, the highest duty of my office,

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Speaker 8: to protect British lives. That is why we've put British

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Speaker 8: jets in the air, typhoons and f thirty.

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Speaker 2: Fives looking on from Turkey A zero one, Mike, You'm.

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Speaker 9: All must if common sense and reason do not prevail,

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Speaker 9: and if diplomacy is not given space are region risks

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Speaker 9: being dragged into a ring of fire.

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Speaker 3: This must not be allowed.

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Speaker 2: Joel Ruben, Obama's former deputary Assistant Secretary of status with

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Speaker 2: US after seven o'clock mean time. That's news of the

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Speaker 2: war in ninety It's a good geopolitical news I can

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Speaker 2: offer it. India and Canada seem to have patched things up.

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Speaker 2: This all fell apart in twenty twenty three over the

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Speaker 2: assassination of Sikh separatists if you remember that story anyway,

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Speaker 2: Karnie's been in India talking to Madi. Theyve got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of agreements, including a ten year nuclear energy deal.

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Speaker 2: They've reset the ties. The deals cover technology, critical, mineral, space, defense, education.

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Speaker 2: They agree to conclude a free trade deal, they say

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Speaker 2: by the end of twenty six, so it's not all

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Speaker 2: doom and misery. Eleven first six.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike, right, crunch me for a few numbers.

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Speaker 2: Are we reacting the way we thought we would?

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Speaker 10: In some cases yes and in some cases no.

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Speaker 11: So global markets have opened and traded, so of course

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Speaker 11: we led the way after the weekend, after the dramatic

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Speaker 11: events of the weekend, and now everyone else around the

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Speaker 11: world has had their chance. Just before I sort of

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Speaker 11: sort of put a gentle reminder out there. These geopolitical

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Speaker 11: events historically tend to only have a shortened impact. Now

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Speaker 11: there are, of course different levels of geopolitical events, and

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Speaker 11: is around duration and whether or not these events have

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Speaker 11: a sustained pact. Because things that those key macro factors

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Speaker 11: interest rates, things like growth, they always reassert themselves and

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Speaker 11: in this circumstance, the key question we have to ask

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Speaker 11: will these events exacerbate or materially impact on those key

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Speaker 11: course we now have much higher levels of uncertainty.

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Speaker 10: We've got regional stability. So if I look at the

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Speaker 11: So we look at Brent crud just under seventy eight

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Speaker 10: So we're just under that as well.

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Speaker 11: So it adds to the cost of living pressure and

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Speaker 11: it has potential inflation implications.

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Speaker 10: But come back to my point, Mike, how long does

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Speaker 10: What you want to watch here?

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Speaker 11: And I think this has been spoken about a lot

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Speaker 11: been recognized is that the Iranians don't need to shut

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Speaker 11: But share markets for those people that went to bed

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Speaker 11: ten minutes and they're already wrong.

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Speaker 10: But if I look at it now, the.

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Speaker 11: Dow Jones is literally unchanged. It's down eight points. The

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Speaker 11: There was a material fall at the beginning, but then

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Speaker 11: I think the market movement that we're seeing now, and

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Speaker 11: but it's suggesting that this won't be an extended conflict,

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Speaker 11: prolonged conflict. Now, different sectors, Mike, they're obviously having different

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Speaker 11: I would have expected maybe interest rates to US interest

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Speaker 10: That's what we call the ism. Price is paid.

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Speaker 11: That was higher, so now people are a little bit

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Speaker 11: Kiwi dollar is lower mic as has said, And actually

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Speaker 11: that's a thirteen year low, so getting more expensive across

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Speaker 11: the ditch because the Aussie dollar has been more resilient

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Speaker 11: in over their happy days, gold has gone up. Look, Mike,

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Speaker 11: it's all moving. It could all be different to where.

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Speaker 11: Unfortunately we're here every morning.

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Speaker 2: Exactly and that's why we pay you the big bucks. Phil. Jobs, Now,

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Speaker 2: what are we seeing in January here? And this is

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Speaker 2: the tail of the end of the recovery, and you

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Speaker 2: see the jobs and everything comes right? Is it coming right?

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Speaker 10: Well, yes it is.

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Speaker 11: But you know what I've said was we've got this

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Speaker 11: economic recovery. It seems to be consensus around that. But

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Speaker 11: it just does look like there was a bit of

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Speaker 11: a breather in January. Phil Jobs month employment indicators, they

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Speaker 11: are up zero point two percent month on month. We're

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Speaker 11: still down on the year zero point two percent. The

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Speaker 11: wors some historical revisions, keeping an eye on those. But

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Speaker 11: what's happening my because the year on year numbers are

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Speaker 11: becoming less negative, and if I look a three month

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Speaker 11: rolling number, they are improving. The trenders in the right direction.

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Speaker 11: There's still regional differences as expected. Aucklands zero point six

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Speaker 10: But where's gup?

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Speaker 2: Where is up?

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Speaker 13: We all share something fundamental. We share the privilege of

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Speaker 2: He cried. The missus cried. The room was gripped. If

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Speaker 2: he essentially plays himself. Mike, just picking up on what

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Speaker 2: Centrics have got some numbers out this morning. Where are

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand recovery of twenty twenty six. Right after

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Speaker 1: Talk s dB, the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names.

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Speaker 1: retirement Communities, Life your Way news tog said, the.

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Speaker 2: Old just out ruts that SASKT twenty seven percent support

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Speaker 2: the economy, what can I tell you our good news?

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Speaker 2: Consumer credit demands up over eight percent year on year,

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Speaker 2: Monica Lacy, Centric, Chief operating Officer, back with us Monica morning.

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Speaker 2: What would you call us? Would you call this a

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Speaker 14: Look, I think overall things are definitely starting to trend

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Speaker 2: The liquidations I don't worry about, not that it's not

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Speaker 14: Yeah? Correct, I think there's a really long chain of

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Speaker 2: Right, those areas. What does that tell us not that

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Speaker 14: Our report talks about areas at any state.

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Speaker 2: So you can be well, way, oh, for goodness, there's

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Speaker 14: Look, so what we expect at this time of year

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Speaker 14: so that's fantastic news. The latest stage areas, which is

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Speaker 14: So overall Kiwis are managing their money quite well.

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Speaker 2: That's encouraging this new lending. How much of it's new

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Speaker 14: our data is definitely demonstrating that we are seeing a

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Speaker 2: What's your sense of this, Moniker? Going forward? Are we

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Speaker 14: I think things are starting to turn. I'm just not

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Speaker 2: Here here weldam appreciate it very much. Monica Lacy, who's

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Speaker 2: you doing well?

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Speaker 3: Less reassured, Mike.

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Speaker 2: See, under normal circumstances, what Macron said today would be

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Speaker 2: I think globally significant. It probably still is, just not

440
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Speaker 2: getting quite the global headlines for obvious reasons. Did this

441
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Speaker 2: thing come out of nowhere? Or has this been well signaled?

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Speaker 16: It had been signaled. The thing is, for each presidential term,

443
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Speaker 16: a president announces to the nation what the nuclear deterrant is. This,

444
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Speaker 16: of course now very different. He gave his last flast

445
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Speaker 16: six years ago. What's happened since then? While we've got

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Speaker 16: the war in Ukraine And as President Macron said the

447
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Speaker 16: speech just a few hours ago, he said, there is

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Speaker 16: a weakening of arms control and nuclear proliferation. The other

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Speaker 16: big question, of course, did he come up with can

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Speaker 16: Europe still be guaranteed of at security by the US?

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Speaker 16: Will the Trump administration guarantee Europe's stability and European security. Well,

452
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Speaker 16: at the start of the speech, he was sort of

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Speaker 16: thank the US, said that it had been a good ally,

454
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Speaker 16: but I think by the end of it the question

455
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Speaker 16: had been answered that now it was up to the Europeans.

456
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Speaker 16: He said very clearly, Europe has to take this now

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Speaker 16: by the horns. It cannot talk about the possibility of

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Speaker 16: America not being a relabel ally. So what he came

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Speaker 16: up with was outlines of what's going to happen. So

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Speaker 16: there's going to be an increase in the number of

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Speaker 16: nuclear warheads. That's the first time that's going to happen

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Speaker 16: in decades. Looking further down at other aspects, one thing

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Speaker 16: that's really important is in the past France has said

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Speaker 16: they needed to keep enough warheads sufficiency, strict sufficiency.

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Speaker 3: That's now gone.

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Speaker 16: That is now we don't know what the numbers will be,

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Speaker 16: but that will no longer be just sufficiency. The other

468
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Speaker 16: thing that has changed, specifically the concept of unacceptable damage.

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Speaker 16: Now now that's apparently gone in favor of a broader,

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Speaker 16: quite vague criteria, which will be that an opposing state

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Speaker 16: must not be able to recover from a French strike,

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Speaker 16: So a lot of changes there. What we don't know

473
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Speaker 16: what has been vague on detail, how many nuclear warheads.

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Speaker 16: He talked a lot about the nuclear umbrella. He's now

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Speaker 16: going to make it available to other countries such as

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Speaker 16: Germany and Poland. No idea about how that's going to work,

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Speaker 16: because what he did say was there will only ever

478
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Speaker 16: be a French finger on that button. They will not

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Speaker 16: hand over sovereignty of their nuclear deterrence. So how that

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Speaker 16: will work if, for example, the Germans or the Poles say, look,

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Speaker 16: we now think there's an existential threat, what's going to

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Speaker 16: be the process for doing that? So very clear, very

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Speaker 16: shocking to hear this, but of course this is as

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Speaker 16: you said, this is the world we now live in.

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Speaker 16: He says he has to protect the French people for

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Speaker 16: what they are facing. And one of the other things

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Speaker 16: he said was be aware that this war could reach

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Speaker 16: our borders.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, that was my expression. So how immersed is France?

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Speaker 2: I mean you heard what Star has said and defense

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Speaker 2: and bases and stuff. Where's France? And for that matter,

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Speaker 2: was Germany? Again, Well, here's the big problem.

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Speaker 16: You know, Iran could launch missiles as far as Germany.

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Speaker 16: And Italy that's next door, so that does tend to

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Speaker 16: concern people. And it's not just concern about oil prices

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Speaker 16: or gas prices, and this does concern people. So the

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Speaker 16: other problem, of course that France has is over the

498
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Speaker 16: years it's built up defence ties with places in the Golf.

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Speaker 16: They do have bases in the Golf. We saw over

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Speaker 16: the weekend that a French military based there was attacked.

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Speaker 16: No soldiers, you know, were effective.

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Speaker 3: That they do have bases there.

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Speaker 16: They've been selling their fighter jets to these countries, they've

504
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Speaker 16: been training them, they've been doing the repair work, they've

505
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Speaker 16: got workshops there for these so they are heavily dependent

506
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Speaker 16: on these countries, not just for your gas and for

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Speaker 16: petroleum products, but also they've been selling their wares there

508
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Speaker 16: and they're quite heavily involved there. So the French foreign

509
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Speaker 16: ministers said early Monday morning that France was not involved

510
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Speaker 16: in at the start, was not warned about this, but

511
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Speaker 16: it will do what it can to protect its own

512
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Speaker 16: interest in the region.

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Speaker 2: And you've got guest problems of course overnight because guitar

514
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Speaker 2: got hit in the L ANDNG And mind you, you've

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Speaker 2: been through all this before with Ukraine, haven't you.

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Speaker 16: Well, that's right with Ukraine, that really did sort of

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Speaker 16: shock Europe into action.

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Speaker 14: But you would have thought with.

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Speaker 16: That that the amount of LPLNG that Europe used would diminish. Alas, no,

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Speaker 16: if you look at it since twenty eighteen that the

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Speaker 16: EU has imported double the amount of LNG, so they

522
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Speaker 16: really haven't moved away. And France, don't forget, is the

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Speaker 16: largest importer of LNG in the EU. But there is

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Speaker 16: still Norway on the doorstet which provides a lot of

525
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Speaker 16: the LNG two Europe. But again you're looking at prices

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Speaker 16: going up just at a time when Europe's economies were

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Speaker 16: having a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of growth, and it's inflationary of course. Catherine,

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Speaker 2: nice to catch up. We'll see in a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field out of France this morning. Interesting that they

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Speaker 2: talk of the closed airspace, it's not true. Let me

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Speaker 2: give you a couple of numbers. In a moment ten

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Speaker 2: to seven with.

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Speaker 1: The mic asking breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities News, Togstead

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Speaker 1: b Mike.

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Speaker 2: First Emirates flight has just taken off thirty minutes ago

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Speaker 2: from Dubai. My understanding. Thank you. Jerry. By the way,

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Speaker 2: looking forward to catch up with Rod for obvious reasons.

539
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Speaker 2: But minus forty nine is where Star misits this morning

540
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Speaker 2: of the latest poll Gorton and Denton, the by election

541
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Speaker 2: that most people will have forgotten about because of the

542
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Speaker 2: war they got trounced on. Poles come out and he

543
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Speaker 2: is in real trouble now if he wasn't in trouble

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Speaker 2: for his in real trouble now anyway.

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Speaker 12: More.

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Speaker 2: No flights, So the other thing they're thinking about. Of course,

547
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Speaker 2: if we think this three or four thousand New Zealander

548
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Speaker 2: is in mainly Dubai, there are hundreds of thousands of Brits.

549
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Speaker 2: Britain have made many Brits live in Dubai and if

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Speaker 2: they don't live in Dubai, they make it seasonal and

551
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Speaker 2: so there's a lot of them there. So there's some

552
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Speaker 2: sort of discussion about what they need to do about that. However,

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Speaker 2: this idea that there are no flights coming in and

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Speaker 2: out of that particular part of the world simply wrong.

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Speaker 2: More than four thousand flights have been canceled so far.

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Speaker 2: Each day there's a flight Radar twenty four But Monday,

557
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Speaker 2: for example, seventy nine percent of global flights to Katar

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Speaker 2: were canceled, which means, of course eleven percent weren't. Seventy

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Speaker 2: one percent of flights to the UAE were canceled, which

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Speaker 2: means close to thirty percent weren't. Eighty one percent of

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Speaker 2: flights to Israel, ninety two percent to Bahrain. But as

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Speaker 2: far as a hub is concerned, Doha and Dubai all

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Speaker 2: flights to Israel and bar Rain three quarters of the

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Speaker 2: day schedule flight to the UAE three quarters, which means

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent worth this is from Britain, sixty nine

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Speaker 2: percent to Qatar. So there are still planes flying. So

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Speaker 2: don't forget about that five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business favor. Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Who's earning what wages? Why seek new data? Snapshot of

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Speaker 2: the high paying rolls. Top of the list A handler.

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Speaker 2: If you're a handler in the manufacturing transport sector, fifteen

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Speaker 2: and a half percent last year on average, you came

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Speaker 2: off a low base at fifty eight grand a year.

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Speaker 2: Systems engineer increase of almost thirteen percent average pay one

576
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Speaker 2: eighteen and a half thousand dollars. Systems engineer if you're

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Speaker 2: in the education training sector. Increase of twelve percent as

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Speaker 2: an educator average salary seventy two. Maintenance technician up twelve percent,

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Speaker 2: average of almost seventy five grand. Property managers you're up

580
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Speaker 2: eleven percent eighty grand average. They're good and they're bad.

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Speaker 2: Having dealt with them all, we've got a good one

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Speaker 2: at the moment. We love our property manager at the

583
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Speaker 2: moment designed an architectural planner. So apparently there's no work. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's not right. That's coming back to because when you're

585
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Speaker 2: getting what you're getting paid ten percent more than you

586
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Speaker 2: were roughly one hundred and ten thousand dollars. You're in

587
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Speaker 2: that particular field. A couple of different roles in healthcare

588
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Speaker 2: tempers an increase in health improvement practitioner and technologist. You're

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Speaker 2: between ninety two and one hundred and eighteen grand. If

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Speaker 2: you're a kitchen or a catering assistant pays up eight

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Speaker 2: percent on average. Our highest paying job that saw the

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Speaker 2: biggest increased GP when you work on your Mondays and

593
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Speaker 2: tuesdays up seven point three percent. Average GP ens two

594
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: There's some pay rises going around the place. Joel Ruben

597
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Speaker 2: was the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the

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Speaker 2: Ad Barmer administration, So we'll get his read on where

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Speaker 2: this goes, whether anybody knows. Is it short term, is

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Speaker 2: a longer term? Does it go region wide? Is it

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Speaker 2: a bloodbath? Liam Lawson looking forward to that catch up

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Speaker 2: ahead of Melbourne this weekend. He's with us after eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So the fallout from Operation Epic Fury

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Speaker 2: starting to be felled oils up. As we've told you

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Speaker 2: this morning, a lot of it's stuck in the strait

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Speaker 2: at the moment of Refinery and guitar has been hit.

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Speaker 2: Ivery night, the L and G production stopped. The warnings

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Speaker 2: continue from Americans that casualties may well rise. Joe Rubin

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Speaker 2: is a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under the

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Speaker 2: Obama administration and as well us. Joel, morning to you, Hey,

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Speaker 2: make great to be with you. Thank you the job

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Speaker 2: from the White House and talking to the American people.

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Speaker 2: Your observation so far as what are they doing a

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Speaker 2: good job.

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Speaker 7: Or not.

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Speaker 3: Not enough.

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Speaker 17: The President is putting out videos which is useful, and

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Speaker 17: they're getting their game going now this week and speaking

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Speaker 17: to and brief in Congress, and there will be a

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Speaker 17: couple votes in both chambers this week about the war.

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Speaker 17: But they can do more, They should do more. Typically

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Speaker 17: on Sunday morning shows in Washington, you get administration officials

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Speaker 17: fanning out across those shows to explain the policy that

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Speaker 17: did not happen yesterday, and so I think I think

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Speaker 17: they several ways to go to explain the objectives.

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Speaker 2: Sauce Pole, I had a couple of moments ago twenty

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Speaker 2: seven percent support at the rest don't is does that

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Speaker 2: matter or not?

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Speaker 17: Well, you know, in the near term it does not,

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Speaker 17: But if it drags on for weeks into the month

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Speaker 17: time frames, yes we will have an impact. And the

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Speaker 17: real intriguing question also is from a polling perspective, who

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Speaker 17: who is abandoning President Trump and his base? Is Marga

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Speaker 17: Bass in many ways voted for him to avoid this

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Speaker 17: exact moment. Democrats by and large are going to be

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Speaker 17: negative on this war, even if some support it privately,

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Speaker 17: but for political reasons they'll be like that. But you know,

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Speaker 17: there's a lot of discontent right now in his base

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Speaker 17: and it may hurt his pulling.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we bring in jd. Vance. We've not

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Speaker 2: heard from him. There's one photo he was sitting there

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Speaker 2: with Heigs. It wasn't Heigs who was sitting there with Bess,

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Speaker 2: And I think that he's literally not spoken. Is that

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Speaker 2: is he representing the people you just talked about.

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Speaker 17: I think if I'm here, I'm hiding because his brand

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Speaker 17: is associated with exact the exact opposite of the current policy.

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Speaker 17: You add to that Tulci Gabbard, who is the Director

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Speaker 17: of National Intelligence. She essentially campaigned against foreign interventions. And frankly,

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Speaker 17: this is the price you pay to take the take

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Speaker 17: the VP slot. But I also think nobody in this

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Speaker 17: administration wants to head to the president. He's the guy,

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Speaker 17: he's the messenger, he's setting the policy. You may see

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Speaker 17: hegseth anothers speak, but he really is the one who's speaking.

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Speaker 2: We well, we heard him speak just a couple of

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Speaker 2: months ago from the White House. Does he in his

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Speaker 2: head have an actual plan? Well, I mean he talks

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Speaker 2: about a plan and then he says it's very quick

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Speaker 2: and very short, and then it's four weeks, and then

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Speaker 2: it's five weeks, or it might not be. Does does

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Speaker 2: he have a plan?

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Speaker 17: You know, he had a plan for the first days,

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Speaker 17: without a doubt, and they had a military plan to

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Speaker 17: strike and decapitate the regime, to take out the Supreme leader,

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Speaker 17: and to go after the infrastructure of of theive capabilities

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Speaker 17: of Iran. And they're executing that plan. They do not

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Speaker 17: have much more of a plan though beyond that, and

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Speaker 17: certainly not for the day after scenarios. We heard him

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Speaker 17: call for aspirational goals of the people rising up, but

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Speaker 17: how to implement that. He has not explained exactly how

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Speaker 17: that's going to take place, and that I think is

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Speaker 17: the big gap in the next days.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was my next question. When does the uprising start?

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Speaker 2: And if you are part of that uprising, if you

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Speaker 2: are in Iran, what is it you're looking to see

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Speaker 2: happen before you rise up?

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Speaker 17: I mean, what you're looking for first of all is

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Speaker 17: can we the United States provide air cover and support

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Speaker 17: for the people if the people go into the streets

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Speaker 17: and begin to do mass protests and push forward different names,

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Speaker 17: different factions, will there be leaders inside of Iran who

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Speaker 17: will break with the leadership structure now and call for

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Speaker 17: a termination of the current leadership or breakaway. But what

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Speaker 17: role will the US play to protect the people? Because

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Speaker 17: you're remember, in many ways, we backed into this dynamic

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Speaker 17: because the President said he wanted the Rundo people to

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Speaker 17: be protected after they were slaughtered en mass in the

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Speaker 17: streets in January, and so now if they come back out,

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Speaker 17: will they be protected? That I think is what we

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Speaker 17: can do.

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Speaker 2: Will we do it?

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Speaker 17: Is the question?

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Speaker 2: Big Tom Crystal Bull, Joel, I'm going to ring you

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Speaker 2: in four weeks. What's happened?

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Speaker 17: Well, in four weeks, it's going to be springtime in Washington.

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Speaker 17: But I do think that we're going to see a

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Speaker 17: level of winding down of military operations and some type

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Speaker 17: of declaration of success by the President. But I think

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Speaker 17: he's going to give this several weeks of continued attacks,

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Speaker 17: especially since the United States currently enjoys dominance in the skies.

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Speaker 7: Over and on.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk to you before four weeks. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I've enjoyed your company. Joe Rubin, who's the former Deputy

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Speaker 2: Assistant Secretary of statee in the Adbamber administration. Twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven, Scotlan stuck and Dohasen Saturday lunchtime. No flights

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Speaker 2: at all out of Doha. Well that's not what I'm reading.

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Speaker 2: But my question for you, if you're still listening in

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Speaker 2: that part of the world, and thank you for contacting us,

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about this a lot, how long do

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Speaker 2: you have to be stuck there before you start getting

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Speaker 2: really worried? Let us know, Mike GoF sounds like a

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Speaker 2: man with a grudge. Let me come back to that.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Twelve past the high Asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 2: That'd be the Trade Reade. Shortly from Tom McLay. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot of business in that part of the world,

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Speaker 2: of course, about three billion dollars worth so and a

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Speaker 2: lot of it's stuck. So we'll see if we can

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Speaker 2: navigate our way through that. Liam Lawson after right too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, sixteen past seven. Now we've got good news,

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Speaker 2: I think from the welfare reset. You remember that traffic

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Speaker 2: light system. New stats are showing ninety nine percent let's

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Speaker 2: call it, virtually everyone and meeting their obligations. Feedback solid two.

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Speaker 2: Apparently ninety percent say the traffic light system gives them

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Speaker 2: clear direction anyway. There's also been a ten percent drop

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Speaker 2: in the number of sanctions. Louis Upston's the Minister of

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Speaker 2: Social Development and Employment, of course, and his back. Well

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Speaker 2: this good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: The level of monol in the checks, are you confident

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Speaker 2: and comfortable that they are being done? So people just

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Speaker 2: don't rock up and go yeah, I applied for three jobs,

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Speaker 2: just can't find one.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Because there's people who have different levels of intensity in

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Speaker 18: terms of their work with MST.

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Speaker 3: So if you are in.

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Speaker 18: Case management, you are talking to your case manager at

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Speaker 18: an absolute minimum of once a month. They are monitoring

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Speaker 18: what you're doing, they are providing support and assistance. It

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Speaker 18: is more intensive. If you are a young person in

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Speaker 18: one on one coaching, it is more than weekly, it

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Speaker 18: is more like daily. So there's a lot more activity

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Speaker 18: going on. With people who are job seekers, we want

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Speaker 18: to improve their chances of getting a job, and that's

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Speaker 18: exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 2: So with ninety nine percent meeting their obligations, what have

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Speaker 2: you learned out of this? How much slacking was there

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Speaker 2: actually going on?

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Speaker 18: Well, I think The first thing is people weren't clear

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Speaker 18: about their expectations. Now they are, and they also know

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Speaker 18: that we have a system where there are rights and responsibilities.

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Speaker 18: There are consequences if you don't fulfill your obligations. So

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Speaker 18: what we've seen with the reduction in sanctions being applied

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Speaker 18: is people know their obligations, they're taking the steps they

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Speaker 18: need to. We've also seen eighty three thousand people leave

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Speaker 18: the benefit into work, which is exactly what we want

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Speaker 18: to see. Is there more to do? Absolutely, And what

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Speaker 18: we do know is employment is the last thing to

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Speaker 18: come right when you come out of a recession. So

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Speaker 18: I'm really optimistic about what we're seeing and the traffic

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Speaker 18: light system working.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing filled jobs in January, for example, a little

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Speaker 2: bit softer, you know, as we tell January seem to

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Speaker 2: be a weird month, but overall from the latter part

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Speaker 2: of last year into this year, jobs do seem to

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Speaker 2: be growing and presumably that's now a trend. Would that

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Speaker 2: be your vibe?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Absolutely. If you look at my other area of tourism

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Speaker 18: and hospitality, we're seeing international visitors grow. That means there

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Speaker 18: are more job opportunities, and that's exactly what we want

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Speaker 18: to see with a growing economy, so it is working

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Speaker 18: and we just need to keep that level of pressure

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Speaker 18: on the welfare system so people know their expectations and

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Speaker 18: they're fulfilling them.

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Speaker 2: I had a curbed wheel on my car and I

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Speaker 2: went into the wheel shop yesterday and I was talking

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Speaker 2: to the bloke who owns the company and he said,

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Speaker 2: he works with your lot. And he goes along and

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Speaker 2: he says, I need a person. I can train them

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Speaker 2: to do a bunch of stuff in my job. Give

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Speaker 2: me someone who's on a straight up and down. How

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Speaker 2: much does that happen.

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Speaker 18: Well, it's happening more and more because what MFD are

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Speaker 18: doing is working more closely with businesses. And I'll have

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Speaker 18: more to say about our work with the Chambers of

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Speaker 18: Commerce around the country on Thursday, so look out for

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Speaker 18: an announcement there. MFD has the most people available for jobs.

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Speaker 18: Many of them have skills, and many of them have

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Speaker 18: been in work recently, so I'd really encouraged any employers

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Speaker 18: who have vacancies. First thing, talk to your local MSD office.

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Speaker 18: They have work brokers, they have suitable candidates and they

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Speaker 18: are very very particular and careful about how they match

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Speaker 18: the right candidate to the job. We want people to

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Speaker 18: be successful getting off welfare and into work and that's

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Speaker 18: what MSD are doing really well.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Louise, nice to talk to you. Appreciate Louise Upston,

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Speaker 2: Minister for Social Development Employment. Mike, I've just heard on

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Speaker 2: the news that Luxen was being accused of playing politics

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Speaker 2: over irun Correct me if I'm wrong, But his job

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Speaker 2: title is literally politician, isn't it. He got VECN up

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Speaker 2: of it yesterday in the post cabinet presser. I'll come

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Speaker 2: back to that shortly nineteen past.

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Speaker 2: Task three. I watched a woman from one of the

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Speaker 2: unions explain how much work had been done to settle

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Speaker 2: their latest claim. The Allied Health Workers have signed off

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Speaker 2: the deal. It's about twelve thousand of them physiosocial workers

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. There was more work to be done,

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Speaker 2: she said, And I bet there is. Unions they're dreadful things. Really,

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Speaker 2: if you think about it, they're full of people who

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Speaker 2: are full of hate and misery. Health work has got

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Speaker 2: two and a half percent this year, right, two and

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Speaker 2: a half percent this year, are a little bit over

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Speaker 2: too for next year now the principles got something similar.

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Speaker 2: Secondary teachers, same thing, Primary teachers. There the holdouts at

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Speaker 2: the moment, but that's over the treaty. As we found

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Speaker 2: out last week on the program, moneywise, they appear to

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Speaker 2: have been offered what everyone else has been offered. In

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Speaker 2: other words, all the angst, all the upset, the hot air,

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Speaker 2: the back and forth, the strike, the stop works, the

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Speaker 2: waving of the placods on picket lines has resulted in

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Speaker 2: pretty much the same thing for everything, to something this year,

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Speaker 2: a bit less next year, Months and months and months

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Speaker 2: worth of agro for the same result. What's the point

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Speaker 2: in that, at all times the state had no money.

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Speaker 2: We're in debt. When you've got a collective that covers

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Speaker 2: thousands of people, the offer will always be affected by

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Speaker 2: the scale of the outcome. Sir Brian Roche would appear

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Speaker 2: to be the unsung hero in this, quietly and patiently

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Speaker 2: beavering away with a bunch of myopic idea logs who

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Speaker 2: believe that threats and withdrawls of labor is a good

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Speaker 2: way to do business. If one of them had got,

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Speaker 2: you know, like eight percent, if one of them had

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Speaker 2: been able to point to a material gained by their

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Speaker 2: seemingly never ending barrage of industrial action, they might have

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Speaker 2: had a point. But they can't. In a nutshell. They

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Speaker 2: got pretty much what they got offered in the first place.

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Speaker 2: The state were never looking to rip anyone off. Good

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Speaker 2: people and good order is a valuable asset in the

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Speaker 2: public service. But in a country with no money, you

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Speaker 2: can't magic up riches. So all that union apparatus for what,

871
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: all those fees for what, all those days off for what?

872
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: Two percent this year? Two percent next year? For everyone?

873
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: How much time, energy, and noise could have been saved

874
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: if the approach was less adversarial and more adult posking Mike.

875
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: The media were at their worst at yesterday's press or.

876
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Speaker 2: I thought Luxeon did okay, No he didn't, micaeh wish

877
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: Luxen would grow up here with the press pack excruciating.

878
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't excruciating, but it was pretty bad if you

879
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: missed it. What happened was they became myopic. The problem

880
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: with the press pack is they hunt as a pack.

881
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: That's why they called the press pack. And there was

882
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: a singular question asked yes, and it was about Iran

883
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: and whether or not it was illegal and whether or

884
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: not carpet bombing Iram would be acceptable. In Luxon's mind,

885
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: the whole thing became childish and pathetic. He made a

886
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: statement at the beginning of it and he said, you know,

887
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: no one's going to he said basically what he said

888
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: on this program in the morning. But they kept re litigating, relitigating,

889
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: relitigating him. They seized on the fact he said at

890
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: one point, you know, it's good that the regime's falling,

891
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: and it's good, and they seized on that and they

892
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: sort of extrapolated it out to the point where they said, well,

893
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: what if we carpet bomb Iran, what are the rules

894
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: around this? And why don't we carpet bomb North Korea?

895
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: And it sort of got so pathetic. But the media

896
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: are never going to improve because their childlike in their approach,

897
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: and so that then falls on the Prime minister to

898
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 2: handle things better. If I was advising the Prime minister,

899
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: I would conduct things completely differently. At some point I

900
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: would have gone, look, this has got childish, and at

901
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: one point I don't know who he was at, but

902
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: he said shouting at he doesn't get you the question.

903
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: It sort of got to that point. And his problem

904
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: is he's too nice a guy. And it was suggested

905
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: last night on the news by one channel I can't

906
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: remember which that he might have been a bit out

907
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: of his depth on foreign matters as opposed to trade matters,

908
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 2: as opposed to economic matters. I don't think that's true.

909
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: I just think he doesn't know how to handle arrogant, rude,

910
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: unruly people, and he needs to learn that fairly quickly,

911
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: because I think the campaign's going to get worse. What

912
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: he's got to realize is most of the media don't

913
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: like him, and they certainly don't want him to win

914
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: the election. So understand that and give the media the

915
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: respect they deserve, which is next to none. And control things.

916
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: You're in charge. The flora is yours. You're the boss,

917
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: you set the rules, and the sooner he learns that

918
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: lesson the better news in a couple of moments. Then

919
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Speaker 2: Todd mclayan later on Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 1: Point, no fluff, just facts and fierce debate, the mic

921
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Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential,

922
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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs heav the wine when.

923
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Speaker 2: In London overnight. I'll tell you what wine and who

924
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Speaker 2: they are. And it's one one of the more prestigious awards,

925
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: the World's Best Somalia's selection for twenty twenty six year

926
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Speaker 2: interview Wine. You want to know about that, Liam Wilson,

927
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: after way ahead of Melbourne, twenty three minutes away from it.

928
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: Actually related matters on the business of business, petrol and

929
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: travel affected by the wall currently, but we also have

930
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Speaker 2: a lot of business in that particular part of the world.

931
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Speaker 2: We explored about three billion dollars worth a year for

932
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Speaker 2: the gold to mcclays, the Trade Minister and Associate Minister

933
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: of Foreign Affairs, as well as with us morning, oh

934
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Speaker 2: my good morning, on a scale of one to tea

935
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Speaker 2: and how worried are you?

936
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Speaker 12: Well, look, our business is export up. They are resilient.

937
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 9: But of course we've got people on the ground and

938
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Speaker 9: news not only sort of government staff, but there are

939
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 9: the Kiwis up there. We are concerned for them and

940
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 9: in fact have been reaching out to provide information to them.

941
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Speaker 9: There is going to be challenges around trade to that

942
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 9: part of the world for a period of time. But again,

943
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 9: we have access to lots of markets, so we're engaging

944
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Speaker 9: pretty closely with any expotent that may be affected to

945
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 9: provide information and to help them.

946
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: You will only go to another market if you thought

947
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Speaker 2: this thing was going to drag. We don't know if

948
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: it's going to drag, do we No?

949
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 12: And that's that's exactly right.

950
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 9: I think we're into day three and you know, looking

951
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 9: at the media this morning, interesting thing is out of

952
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 9: the US, the stock markets have not changed significantly.

953
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 12: That tells the two things. They've probably already factored something

954
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 12: like this.

955
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 9: And firstly, but secondly, you know, it is uncertain for

956
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 9: New Zealand exporders and that part of the world. You know,

957
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 9: I've got to say it condemned very very strongly our

958
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 9: arms action against some of their neighbors who are friendly

959
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 9: countries that we.

960
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 12: Are very well with and so on, and that in

961
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 12: itself is a big concern.

962
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that to see Trump sayd this morning, it

963
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: was a surprise to him, which worries me. But you know,

964
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: do buy can't afford to look like a war zone,

965
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: can it?

966
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 7: No?

967
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 12: That's right.

968
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 9: I mean, we don't have access to a lot of

969
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 9: the information that the US and others will be using.

970
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 9: I think all of the countries in that part of

971
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 9: the world have a lot of very strategic protection that

972
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 9: they can put in place, and they're using that. But

973
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 9: you know, for keepers on the ground, it's concerning it.

974
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 9: We'll get about seven thousand New Zealanders up in that

975
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 9: part of the world. We've been sending very clear messages

976
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 9: through our embassy and others, the Foreign Minister and Prime

977
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 9: Minister about what they should do.

978
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 12: We're keeping a very close eye on it.

979
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you lose product if you're stuck in

980
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: the strait at the moment and it's going nowhere? What

981
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: literally happens to that.

982
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 9: Well, decisions will be made over that by the shipping companies,

983
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 9: And I mean it's a lot of ships that are

984
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 9: sitting there waiting a little bit like you know, there

985
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 9: are aircraft sitting around the world waiting to see what

986
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 9: happens where the airspace still opens. You know, most of

987
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 9: the perishable product they supposed that on those ships can

988
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Speaker 9: be stored for an extended period of time. It's probably

989
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 9: too soon for the companies and sales, but deciding what

990
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 9: to do without the shipping companies. But at a given

991
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 9: point in time, you know they'll have to make decisions.

992
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 9: I mean the important thing, Mike is when it comes

993
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 9: to sort of resilience of access to markets and shipping

994
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Speaker 9: lanes and so on. New Zealand one with many countries,

995
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 9: have been doing planning since COVID about what would happen here,

996
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 9: and so at a given point of time, the shipping

997
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 9: company as well, we'll move to where they have to.

998
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 12: But again I think we're day three. It's very early

999
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 12: days here.

1000
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 2: Good stuff appreciated. Up Tom McLay, who's the Trade Minister

1001
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: also associated Minister of Foreign Affairs twenty minutes away from

1002
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: eight ask like her points on the Prime Minister bang On,

1003
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: he tries too hard to answer all the questions and

1004
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: basically he needs to control them, are not the other

1005
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: way around. You make a very good point, Mike, just

1006
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: like Seymour and Peter's Luxon needs to realize very quickly

1007
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: that the media and not his friends, and he'll never

1008
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: win them over. Yeah, you're not going to get on

1009
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: their side and you're certainly not going to change their attitude.

1010
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: And it's all a bit myopic if you watched it yesterday.

1011
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: But it can't. But at the end of the day,

1012
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: what's held him back, has always held him back, is

1013
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 2: he's simply too nice a guy. And there are plenty

1014
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: of examples around the world or people who handle it

1015
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: well and do it well and it works fine for them.

1016
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: But he needs to learn that quick smartch like the

1017
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: thing I often say on Question Time. Some days he's brilliant.

1018
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: Other days he's a disaster and it's an energy thing.

1019
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: Some days he looks deflated. Some days he looks like

1020
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: he's you know, he looks like Operation Epic Fury. But

1021
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: you just don't know which it is. I can't work

1022
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: out why some days are so good and some days

1023
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: are so bad. It's the lax and paradox, or as

1024
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: I like to call it, the parallax. The parallax is

1025
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: that what it is. Goth sounds like a man with

1026
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: a grudge. Yeah, quick thing on Goth and c Clark

1027
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: for that matter, And Goth's on and you got to

1028
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: under see, you gonna have a bit of history here.

1029
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: So when GoF rolls out this Russia line, and this

1030
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: was sort of the question line from the media yesterday.

1031
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: You know what about Russia. Russia is a completely just

1032
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean God's sake, I shouldn't be sitting here explaining

1033
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: this to people. Russia is a completely different story Russia,

1034
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: rightly or wrongly. Many people say wrongly, But in Putin's mind,

1035
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: Russia is simply reclaiming a part of the country they

1036
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: think they still own. It's a reclamation war. Iran's doing

1037
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: no such thing. It's a completely different set of circumstances.

1038
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: And Goth in his quiet moments, I would like to think,

1039
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: knows that and shouldn't be run on the news saying

1040
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: the sort of bollocks he is eighteen to two the.

1041
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio of Powered

1042
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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

1043
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Speaker 2: It be very good point Mike might take on it.

1044
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the media trying to make news,

1045
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: not report it. That's true, and they had a sniff

1046
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: of that yesterday. You could feel it. He made a

1047
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: couple of mistakes and they were in like a robbers dog,

1048
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: And to a degree, I don't blame them for that.

1049
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: It's sort of what they're there to do. Damien Grant

1050
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: wrote a very good piece and stuff over the Weekend.

1051
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Damian Grant is far and away Stuff's best correspondent. I

1052
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: don't know why the Herall haven't tried to hire him

1053
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: to be frank. Now is not the time for timidity. Broadly,

1054
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: he's arguing pro act, but now is not the time

1055
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: for timidity. New Zealand's on a self destructive trajectory of

1056
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: rising debt, sluggish productivity, falling government services, at declining birth rate,

1057
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: and on going exodus of talent. Grave problems require bold solutions.

1058
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: Lux and Hipkins and Peters cannot be allowed to peddle

1059
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: their timid solutions unchallenged. There is no point remaining as

1060
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: a junior coalition partner to a government that is failing

1061
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: our country. It adds legitimacy to a decrepid and flailing

1062
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: regime which I thought was fairly well put. If you

1063
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: want to see a bit of writing that is well

1064
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: worth it. Thomas Coglin, I don't know why Stuff doesn't

1065
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: make him enougher, because he's the best the Herald's got well.

1066
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: Kate mcdamara. It's a close run thing anyway. Thomas writes

1067
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: he sat down with Barbara Edmonds, so he probably deserves

1068
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: a prize for that. Alone for forty minutes.

1069
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: It mastered.

1070
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's a good read, but it's not a good read.

1071
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Speaker 2: It's a good read this morning in the Herald because

1072
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Speaker 2: of what he attempted to do, and he gives us

1073
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: an insight. She could be Minister of Finance. She won't be,

1074
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: of course, if you're a regular listen to this program,

1075
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: because they're not going to win, but she could be

1076
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: in theory. Hence he sat down with her. The bad

1077
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: part of it is she sees nothing, which is your

1078
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: first alarm bell. So she says nothing, and to a degree,

1079
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: Old defend her because they're running that line. We can't

1080
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: say anything until post the budget and it'll be later

1081
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: in the year. And I get that. I understand that,

1082
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: so fair enough. But two, she admits she's not going

1083
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: to be running a surplus, which I think is quite

1084
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: the admission. She would continue to publish the obi gal

1085
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: x measure, which is the one that excludes acc which

1086
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: is dodgyes or you know what. Anyway, Nicol currently is

1087
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: going to get there a surplus by nine thirty. According

1088
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: to Barbara, she isn't going to get there at all.

1089
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: So isn't that an alarm Belfoya. She's on the fence

1090
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: for rate capping. Rate capping, of course, is one of

1091
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: the worst things going on in this country. Well not

1092
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: the rate capping, but the fact that the rates are

1093
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: out of control and they add to inflation. So the

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00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: government did something about it. So she doesn't know where

1095
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: she's at on rate capping. She does concede the Reserve

1096
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: Bank might have printed just a little bit too much money,

1097
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: no caidding. And the pay equity, which is the big one,

1098
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: that's the that's the elephants in the room. They're going

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00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: to restore the pay equity that was so agregiously ended

1100
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 2: by this current government. Except that's about twelve billion dollars.

1101
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: And remarkably, Barbara doesn't tell us where that money's coming

1102
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 2: from either, so she's not running a surplus. She doesn't

1103
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: know where the money's coming from. Pay equity, she says nothing.

1104
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: And the Reserve Bank printed a bit much money, So

1105
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what to get out of that. By

1106
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: the way, just quickly, if you're listening to me in

1107
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: the car at the moment, you're in enjoying it. That's

1108
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: the surprise of the morning for me. So international survey.

1109
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: This has come from auto trader. In the UK, we're

1110
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: one of the worst nations for commutes, but we enjoy

1111
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: the commute. See, I thought everyone hated the commute, but

1112
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: they don't. They love it. No one enjoys the commute

1113
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: more than South Africa. Seventy two percent of people in

1114
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: South Africa love commuting, and no one spends more time

1115
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: in the car than the people of South Africa ten days,

1116
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: four hours, and forty eight minutes per year commuting. They

1117
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: don't mention how many hijackings at lights, but that could

1118
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: be part of the fun of it. As far as

1119
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: the US has concerned, fifty seven percent of people like

1120
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: the commuted in kiwis fifty five percent. Where do we sit.

1121
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 2: We spend eight hours, sixteen minutes and thirty four minutes

1122
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: on average per year commuting. That puts US about tenth

1123
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: in the world where we commute more than Australia, than

1124
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: the US, than the UK, but less than I mean

1125
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 2: India is obvious. Of course, India is permanently commuting because

1126
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: too many people and not enough cars. Ireland, Greece, Pole,

1127
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: the Netherlands, in Italy, but I would have thought, oh, well,

1128
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: mind you. I think part of it's the show.

1129
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 19: I mean, how many times have people said I was

1130
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 19: late to work because I couldn't get out of the

1131
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 19: car because I couldn't start listening.

1132
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Do you know that? How many people have said that

1133
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: three million, two hundred and fifty seven, eight hundred and

1134
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: ninety six that came out in research last year. I

1135
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 2: remember the number. It's not a number you forget easily

1136
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: turn away from it.

1137
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrover, sport sv News togs

1138
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: dead b.

1139
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Mike, I hate turning off the radio to go

1140
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: into work because I love listening to you see millions

1141
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: of them all over the place. Eight minutes away from eight.

1142
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: Our wine story continues to shine globally. Wyraur River twenty

1143
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: twenty five seving On Blanc has been named in the

1144
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: World's Best Somalia selection is in London, chosen by the

1145
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: top samelias from seventeen countries. Lindsay Parkinson's the CEO of

1146
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: the Rose family estate, who do this particular wine? Lindsay's

1147
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: where it's Lindsay morning, good morning, make in all the

1148
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: good stuff you do. Where's this sit? Is this this important?

1149
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: This particular sea isablewards?

1150
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it is.

1151
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 19: I mean, there's certainly a lot of other things that

1152
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 19: are awarded in the wine industry, but this one's all

1153
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 19: about balance, it's about structure, and it's about how wine

1154
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 19: performs with food. So familiars have a very specific list

1155
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 19: of requirements and to meet those it's we're very.

1156
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: Chuffed, fantastic. Would you have said it was right up

1157
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: there tasting it yourself.

1158
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 19: Look, I wouldn't want to say too much that might,

1159
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 19: but it as a favorite glass of mine.

1160
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: I know you're more of a red man, but it is.

1161
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 18: I do enjoy it.

1162
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: It's only it's a twenty ish dollar bottle of wine,

1163
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: isn't it?

1164
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: For sure?

1165
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 7: Yep?

1166
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: And that gives you, doesn't They give you an insight

1167
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: into what you can do with wine at a very

1168
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: affordable price at the highest level.

1169
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 19: That's that's all we've been concentrating on. There's a lot

1170
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 19: of things in this world happening at the moment, but

1171
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 19: the one thing that we can control is that quality

1172
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 19: and that consistency of product, and that's what we strove

1173
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 19: I have to do. In fact, as we speak, we're

1174
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 19: harvesting the first grapes of twenty twenty six wines this morning.

1175
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: Is that early? How early is that for you?

1176
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 7: No?

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00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 19: Actually I checked the records and it's the exact same

1178
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 19: day we started last year, on the same block.

1179
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: So we're about where about where about right?

1180
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: Good? Good, good? And the business the serbon blanc story

1181
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: you're in London. The serbyon Blanc story for New Zealand

1182
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: is as strong as ever.

1183
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 3: I feel like it is.

1184
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 19: I feel we've I mean, I've visited a steakhouse in Soho,

1185
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 19: I've been to the Merchant, the Navy Club in Saint

1186
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 19: James Square. They still love Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc. It's fresh,

1187
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 19: it's refreshing, it's a great wine.

1188
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: So in this competition there were one hundred this list

1189
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: they produce the Soamelias list, there's one hundred and fifteen wines.

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00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: Are there a lot of serving on blocs in there?

1191
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: And if there are, are they from other countries apart

1192
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: from New Zealand? And if they are, where are they from?

1193
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: And are they any good?

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00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 19: There was a few, but actually I checked the list

1195
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 19: where the only austral Asian wine. There's not even an

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 19: Australian wine in this list. So the uniqueness of this

1197
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 19: product is really is something special when you consider that

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00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 19: we're sort of less than two percent of the world's production.

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Speaker 2: We pack a grape punch that's exceptional. Is there a

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00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: specific touar within Marlborough to a servignon blanc or not.

1201
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: Well, we would like to think so.

1202
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 19: Our family have been growing grape since nineteen seventy eight

1203
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 19: and in that Rapara area, there's just this classic style

1204
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 19: that we can create, you know, almost year in, year out.

1205
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 19: And that's not all Turowa's I've got an amazing team

1206
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 19: back at home, you know, working very very hard for

1207
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 19: the next four weeks.

1208
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: So it's a combination of things.

1209
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 19: But there is something special about the soil and the

1210
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 19: climate of Rapara in Marlborough.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Good to talk to you, Lindsay, and congratulations on that.

1212
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: Lindsay Parkinson, who's the CEO of the Rose Family of

1213
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: State who make the award winning Nahuaira River serving on

1214
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: five Trump just quickly before the years he covered the wall.

1215
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: But I mean only he's got other stuff going on

1216
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: at the moment. He's doing some renovations at the White House.

1217
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 5: Beautiful building, isn't it beautiful. We're adding onto the building

1218
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 5: a little bit, we're improving the building. See that nice drap.

1219
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 5: When that comes down, right now, you see a very

1220
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 5: very deep hole. But in about a year and a

1221
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 5: half from now, you're going to see a very very

1222
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 5: beautiful building, and there's your entrance to it right there.

1223
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 5: In fact, it looks so nice, I don't think i'll

1224
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 5: even I think I'll send money on the doors, because

1225
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: it can't get more beautiful than that. I picked those

1226
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 5: drips in my first term. I always like gold.

1227
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: Do you think he does that to give the impression

1228
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: that the war's not really that big of deal. We're

1229
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: going to bomb them, it'll all work out well and

1230
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: we'll get back to the renovations. Or do you think

1231
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: he says that because he's complete mental Liam Lawson is

1232
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm assuming everyone else. I mean Liam's here and his

1233
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: heading to Melbourne, so he'll be on the starting line.

1234
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: But as of Bahrain and yesterday a couple of thousand

1235
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: people in f one that we're still trying to find

1236
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: a flight there. Liam Lawson is Infra catch up right

1237
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: after the news, which is next.

1238
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast with Vita,

1239
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs.

1240
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: Heads if one is back this weekend, of course in

1241
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: melbyone Liam Lawson this his second full season with Racing Bulls.

1242
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: Testing has been fascinating with new regulations, new cars and

1243
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: Barcelona and bar Rain of course, so what to expect?

1244
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson is back with us.

1245
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, Thank you very much for having me,

1246
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: not at all.

1247
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: A couple of really important questions. First of all, one,

1248
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: the golf. Where are we at?

1249
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: It's it's probably not much better.

1250
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 20: The problem I have is it's a game of consistency,

1251
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 20: and with the way my schedule is, I can't have

1252
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 20: any consistency in the game. So I sort of improve

1253
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 20: a little bit that I have three weeks off and

1254
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 20: I get sort of go back in the wrong duration.

1255
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: So it's not good.

1256
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: Are you naturally gifted? Can you say that about yourself

1257
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: and if you were able to dedicate some time things

1258
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: would improve? Or are you just not that good at all?

1259
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 20: I think a lot of things, yes, but and golf

1260
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 20: definitely not naturally gifted. Golf is a game that, like

1261
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 20: the amount of swing thoughts that I have when I'm

1262
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 20: pulling that cloud back is insane compared to just driving

1263
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 20: a car or doing something else.

1264
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: It's kind a very overwhelming experience.

1265
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: All right. Second question the music, how's the music? Have

1266
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: you released anything yet?

1267
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 12: No?

1268
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: Nothing officially. It's good. It's very good.

1269
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 20: It's something that I obviously as I get more adjusted

1270
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 20: and used to being informal one, I can sort of

1271
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 20: spend a little bit more time playing music as well.

1272
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 20: I have a really cool relationship with Taylor Guitars at

1273
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 20: the moment as well, and have a guitar that now

1274
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 20: travels with me to every one of the hotels that

1275
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 20: I sat. I have an that goes there. Yeah, it's

1276
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 20: really really cool. I have it and then at the

1277
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 20: track as well, so I have two guitars that travel

1278
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 20: to each race. One goes to a driver room at

1279
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 20: the track so in between sessions I can pick it

1280
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 20: up and play it, and one goes to the hotel

1281
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 20: for end of day.

1282
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.

1283
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: You sound like mc jagger. It's like a rider. That's

1284
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: what they call the rider. So every time I turn

1285
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: up into town, I've got to have a guitar and

1286
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 2: some grapes and some champagne and stuff like that. I mean, geez,

1287
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: what a rock star.

1288
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 20: It's it's it's when I realized how good it was

1289
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 20: for just the mind just to sit and play. And yeah,

1290
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 20: it's pretty it's pretty cool. It's it's it's a very

1291
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 20: good way to sort of destress after either a session

1292
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 20: or after a day.

1293
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: Good second full season car recide and we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the cars in a moment. But the second season, do

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Speaker 2: you enter with a different level of confidence given that

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Speaker 2: you've been here before?

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Speaker 20: I think in some ways maybe, but obviously because we

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Speaker 20: have you know, the new cast is here, it's a

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Speaker 20: lot more there's a lot more question marks. You know,

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Speaker 20: there's a lot more unknowns at the moment because we

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01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 20: just don't know everybody. You know, testing is running as

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01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 20: they are, but we have no idea what fuel loads

1303
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 20: people are running, what engine modes are running, What's how

1304
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 20: much that's showing normally not very much. So in some ways, yes,

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01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 20: person on a personal level, I feel very comfortable and

1306
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 20: excited for the season. But in a lot of ways,

1307
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 20: obviously with these new cars, there's a lot of unknowns.

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Speaker 2: How much some work did you do on the new

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Speaker 2: car before you got into the new car itself.

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Speaker 3: We started doing it towards the end of last year,

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Speaker 3: so very very early. But the problem is we're all

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Speaker 3: the similar work.

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Speaker 20: We tried to limit it because you can do as

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Speaker 20: much as you like in online simulations, but until you

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Speaker 20: drive the car and we actually correlate the real car

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Speaker 20: to SEMs, it's sometimes not that good so or it's

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Speaker 20: not as accurate. So it's something that I spent more

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Speaker 20: time in a sort of early part of the season

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Speaker 20: when it went back to Europe after I drove the car.

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Speaker 2: Heaven forensically followed this in Barcelona and bar Rain. These

1321
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Speaker 2: are the questions everybody is asking so downforce, regin, gear changes, breaking, overtaking.

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Speaker 2: Have I left anything out? I mean everything, everything seems different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's it's very it's very, very, very complicated.

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Speaker 20: I guess this is probably the best way to use

1325
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Speaker 20: when when driving is a lot more sort of a

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Speaker 20: lot more screen thoughts, let's say, when driving, when driving

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Speaker 20: these cars, the Bachelor management is just is very very important.

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Speaker 20: It's very it's very tricky for a start set to

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Speaker 20: get it perfect over a lap. You're sort of warm

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Speaker 20: up to start the lap, to make sure you have

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Speaker 20: a feel battery and during the lap to not use

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Speaker 20: too much energy otherwise you'll pay the price towards the

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Speaker 20: end of the lap and then in a long run in.

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Speaker 3: The race, they's the same thing. Trying to manage it

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Speaker 3: is very very tricky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the next question. Is it going to

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Speaker 2: be I mean, who knows. I don't think anyone knows

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Speaker 2: anything at this point of time. But will it because

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Speaker 2: of the battery management of the region, will it vary

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Speaker 2: widely your ability to run that depending on what the

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Speaker 2: track is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: The thing is some tracks you get away with it

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Speaker 20: and you probably won't notice on TV, And for us

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Speaker 20: is drive, which we won't have to stress too much

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Speaker 20: or as much, let's.

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Speaker 3: Say for that management.

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Speaker 20: A track like Barrain, where you have lots of breaking

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Speaker 20: zones and periods off throttle, it's quite low grip there,

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01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 20: so you're a lot of coasting periods and off throttle

1351
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 20: breaking and where you can charge that battery. But a

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Speaker 20: place like Melbourne is very much you're on throttle a

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01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 20: lot of the a lot of the a lot of

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Speaker 20: the way, and when you are off throttle it's very brief,

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Speaker 20: so you don't have enough time to charge. So the

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Speaker 20: difference between those two tracks is massive. We've tested obviously,

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01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 20: Bahrain spent a lot of time there. But we've done

1358
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Speaker 20: simulations for Melbourne and it's it's quite an eye open.

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Speaker 20: It's a how different it's going to be. Even in qualifying.

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Speaker 20: You know, the management we're going to have to do

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01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 20: is something you know in qualifying you expect to get

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Speaker 20: in the car and you be flat out.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think we're gonna be able to do that.

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Speaker 2: Jews do the start all the stuff they're saying, the

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Speaker 2: start is a problem. You're going to wind the engine up,

1366
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: get the turbo going. Is that an issue?

1367
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Speaker 20: Well, it's it's I guess it depends on how you

1368
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 20: look at it. I guess none of it's really an issue.

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Speaker 3: It's just the way the new It's just the way

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Speaker 3: it is right now.

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Speaker 20: And I think that with new regulations always at the

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Speaker 20: start of it, there's there's.

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Speaker 3: Definitely a period where you have to adjusting it use

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Speaker 3: of things.

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Speaker 20: I'm sure, and in a couple of years time, the

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Speaker 20: development will be a lot more advanced than it is

1377
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Speaker 20: right now and we'll have much better systems.

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Speaker 3: But right now, in the early part of it, it's.

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Speaker 20: It looks like more of issues, feels like more of

1380
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 20: an issue right but it's it's also an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: You know, I guess for us as drivers as well.

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Speaker 20: You know, in some ways there's a bit more that

1383
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 20: we can do to help things, depending on how good

1384
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Speaker 20: we are management and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's an hold on will come back and

1386
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: I want to know more about this calend just a

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Speaker 2: couple of momes. Liam Lawson with us more shortly thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 12: It be.

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Speaker 2: News Talks. It'll be sixteen past. Liam Lawson's with us

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Speaker 2: ahead of the opener in Melbourne this weekend, so we

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Speaker 2: all know. I guess Liam what Lewis has said. He's

1394
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: not a massive end of the new rules, Max is

1395
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: it's like formularee on steroids, all that sort of stuff.

1396
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: So I mean, is the is it fun or not

1397
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: really yet?

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Speaker 3: I would say for me, not yet. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's super fun.

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Speaker 20: But I mean, in some ways the car moves around

1401
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 20: quite a bit more, and it depends on how you

1402
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 20: look at it. You know, that can be that can

1403
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 20: be more enjoyable. But obviously we're trying to extract everybody

1404
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 20: laptome out of the car, and in some ways it

1405
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 20: feels like you can't attack as much as you could

1406
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 20: in the past when you have a lot more downforce

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Speaker 20: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: So it depends on how you look at it.

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Speaker 20: For me so far, at the end of the day,

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 20: in a sport like this, you're going to enjoy it

1411
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 20: if you're fast, and you're probably not gonna do it

1412
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 20: if you're not fast.

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01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: So dare know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've ranked all the all the sides. I mean,

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: these are just people who have been observing and you

1416
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: came in at sixth or the team came in at

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: sixth or seventh, and you know, you had Ferrari at

1418
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: the top with Mercedes and stuff like that. Do you

1419
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: have any genuine idea where you're at?

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: Ish, that's the really hard part. I honestly, I don't.

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01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 20: We have all these protections and things like that that

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 20: we that we sort of look at and try and

1423
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 20: calculate what other teams are doing, but it's very hard

1424
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 20: to know. So I think there's a there's a that

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01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 20: sort of top four type teams. They seem to have

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Speaker 20: a bit of an edge on the field in terms

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Speaker 20: of what order they are at. It's really hard to know.

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 20: And then for us, I think we're in that next group,

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01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 20: and it's very hard again today in that order where

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Speaker 20: where we're at. So yeah, at the moment, it's it's

1431
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Speaker 20: I think we're in that sort of second group somewhere

1432
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Speaker 20: around there.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel the size difference when you talk about

1434
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: a place like Monico? The cars looked silly at Monaco,

1435
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: They're just too big. These are smaller cars. Do they

1436
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: feel smaller?

1437
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 5: Look?

1438
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: You know, do they fit better?

1439
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: They do feel a little bit smaller. I would say

1440
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: a little bit more playful.

1441
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 20: I would say to drive, But I think the main

1442
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 20: reason for that is just because we have a significant

1443
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 20: amount of error taking off the car. When you have

1444
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 20: a car that's extremely high downforce, it's designed to push

1445
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 20: through the air and a straight line. As soon as

1446
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 20: you start sliding the car, you lose a lot of

1447
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 20: that downforce because you're starting to hit the air on

1448
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 20: an angle with your and it basically upsets the car massively.

1449
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 20: Whereas when you have I can't with this downforce, that

1450
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 20: sort of sensitivity is a lot less. You can slide

1451
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 20: a bit more and get away with it, so they're

1452
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 20: a bit more playful.

1453
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 2: Do you feel reliabilities go? I mean most sides did

1454
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,440
Speaker 2: with a few obvious exceptions that good laps in Bahrain, Barcelona.

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Speaker 2: Are they reliable?

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Speaker 3: They they are.

1457
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 20: To be fair, we've had like for us, we've probably

1458
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 20: surprised ourselves with with our with our you know, with

1459
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 20: our power unit, with Rebel power trains and with Ford

1460
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 20: our stuff so far as being really really good. But

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Speaker 20: that's not to say that it's not gonna be an

1462
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 20: issue because I think with the new engines there's definitely

1463
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 20: going to be a reliability factor in there, which will

1464
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 20: be really really important, especially at the start of the season.

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Speaker 20: I think, yeah, that's going to be something that's I

1466
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 20: think you'll see a lot of teams struggling with the

1467
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 20: start the season.

1468
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Speaker 2: Where As you enter the second full time season of yours,

1469
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: where do you reckon? You're at lynd Bled for example,

1470
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: He's a brand new rookie. You to the grid. Lewis

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: is the greatest of all time. Where in that Venn

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Speaker 2: diagram are you?

1473
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: It's hard, It's hard to know. I think that. Yeah.

1474
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 20: On a personal note, it's more obviously having a season.

1475
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 20: I learned a lot last year. It was a very

1476
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 20: very important season for me, especially to survive it. I

1477
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 20: think that's been a you know, something that I've learned

1478
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 20: a lot from, probably more than a lot of people

1479
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 20: would learn from a season, just because of all the

1480
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 20: things that we went through. So on that side, I'm

1481
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 20: grateful to have done that and feel a lot better

1482
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 20: going into this year just because of new cars and

1483
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 20: new regulations. It sort of throws a whole new thing

1484
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 20: in there that it's quite unknown. So I never feel

1485
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 20: fully let's I don't know, you know, fully fully prepared

1486
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 20: or probably not the right word, but it's ready for

1487
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 20: something that I'm just not one hundred cent sure on

1488
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 20: how it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: You haven't seen Drive to Survive yet or have you?

1490
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen them. I probably won't fair enough.

1491
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 2: I just I've seen episode one. You're behind the scenes

1492
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: in London at the O two standing there with Max

1493
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: and Pierre Gasly and Ghazzly is surprised when you talk

1494
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: about your perm in a way your perm.

1495
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, so that made Netflix. That's great.

1496
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: And them comes up and Ghazzley goes really in a

1497
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: kind of a why do you get the perm going?

1498
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: What happened there? So now the perm's out there?

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01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 20: Yes, Well, now it's officially I mean, I just tried

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01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 20: to tell people that it was mya for here, but

1501
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 20: obviously most people don't believe that anyway. So yeah, maybe

1502
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 20: I'm thinking of changing things up again this year. No way,

1503
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 20: it's going to be a surprise.

1504
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably give me the ex I can't can't what

1505
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: because you have what because you've signed another deal with

1506
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: Taylor and you've got your own hairdresser at the each

1507
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: locker room now, or.

1508
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 20: Because it's it's just it's because trends change and you've

1509
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 20: got to know you've got to stay with him. So

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01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 20: at the moment, it's I don't know what I'm gonna do,

1511
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 20: but color or shape, I can't tell you that, but

1512
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 20: you've got to You've got to plan, haven't you.

1513
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: Not honestly, not really, It's just I'm just open to it.

1514
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: You're going to change it up, all right. Listen, It's

1515
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: lovely to catch up with you as always. Go well

1516
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 2: in Melbourne this weekend and hopefully we'll chat before the

1517
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: end of the season.

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: Perfect. Thanks, thanks mate, he's good.

1519
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, your feedback on that in the moment A

1520
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: twenty two it's.

1521
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: On my costing Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News talks.

1522
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 2: He isn't he? Good morning, Mike. Great chat with Liam.

1523
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 2: He's matured substantially and exudes knowledge and confidence. What a

1524
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: difference a year makes, Craig, that is so true. We

1525
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: were saying the same thing off here. He's always been

1526
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,839
Speaker 2: a really cool guy, but he's coming into his own beautifully.

1527
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: Such a class act. Mike, how well? How well does

1528
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: he interview? Very well? Does the answer? Mike, bring back

1529
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: the V ten If one's gone, we're going to Melbourne.

1530
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: It looks like crap drivers have to lift in coast.

1531
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: They'll ruin f one. I don't know. I want to

1532
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: think well. They talk of the lack of overtaking. I

1533
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 2: want to think well of it. I want to see

1534
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: Ferrari in their start. Ferrari have nailed the starts. Apparently,

1535
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: if anyone's going to go well in the starts, apparently

1536
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: it's Ferrari. Mike. I's stand with Maxistap and these cars

1537
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: are not Formula one, They're Formula E on steroids. It

1538
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: is there's fifty to fifty. I mean you've got half engine,

1539
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: half battery. That's the simple truth of it. Mike. Awesome

1540
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: interview with Lawson. Great to have access and inside to

1541
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: New Zealand's IF one driver and yep, no, all of

1542
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: that's true. He's always made himself available and he's We're

1543
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: very appreciative for it, Mike. Motive racers give the best interviews. Yep,

1544
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: that's that's been said for years. Great in view with

1545
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, Mike, I previously thought he was a bit

1546
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 2: of a show pony, but have done a one eight.

1547
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: Sounds like a genuine sort of guy. Loved his honesty.

1548
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: He's always been straight up and down when we used

1549
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: to get him, and when he was an F two

1550
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: he was the same.

1551
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 7: Then.

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01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: Yes he's more mature, yes he's more confident, but he's

1553
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: basically always been a really good guy. Mike, just have

1554
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: to tell you so excited my son in Perth is

1555
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: shouting me to the Formula one Singapore for my seventier

1556
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: How awesome is that? Go well with that as spectators?

1557
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: Can you see the battery levels? Fantastic question. No, And

1558
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: that is why watching it on television with commentators expertise

1559
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: is going to make a world of difference, and watching

1560
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: it live you may not know what's going on, but

1561
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 2: that's going to be one of the big learnings this

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01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: Weekend in Melbourne News for you in a couple of moments,

1563
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: then we'll get you to the other side of the world.

1564
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: And Rod Liddle in the UK.

1565
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: Opinion Edit Informed, unapologetic, the mic asking Breakfast with Ranger

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 1: of a sport SV the Ultimate Performance SUV News togs

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Speaker 1: dead be well.

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01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: Apparently Australia has got les than twenty eight days a

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: pittrol before it runs out? Can you find out how

1570
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: little we have given the exports out of the Middle

1571
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 2: East to drying up? Well? The good news is we

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 2: don't import oil from the Middle East. We import oil

1573
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: from Singapore, so we're not affected by the Middle East.

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 2: And we also and I can't remember off the top

1575
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 2: might head what the number was, but we were increasing

1576
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 2: our storage. I don't know we've done it yet, but

1577
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 2: government policy was to increase our storage levels of fuel

1578
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: givens post Marsden and the closing down of the oil

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: slash guess industry off the coast of taran Eki. We

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 2: are reliant on imports, of course one hundred percent of

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: the time, and therefore storage was critical. But it doesn't

1582
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: come from the Middle East. It comes out of Singapore

1583
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: right to the aforementioned Middle East. He is starmer making

1584
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: the case.

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01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 8: Over the last year alone, there aren't has backed more

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01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 8: than twenty potentially leafle attacks on UK soil, each of which,

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01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 8: mister Speaker.

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 3: We have foiled.

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Speaker 8: So it's clear the Iranian regime must never be allowed

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 8: to get their hands nuclear weapons. That remains the primary

1591
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 8: aim of the United Kingdom and our allies, including the US,

1592
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 8: but not wanted a posts of that.

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Speaker 21: We are told that this dither and delay is because

1594
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 21: of concerns over international law, but I am afraid that

1595
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 21: explanation simply does not hold. International law didn't prevent our

1596
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 21: allies from clearly and unequivocally stating whose side they were on.

1597
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 21: You don't need international law to say whose side you're on.

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 21: It has not prevented British governments in the past from

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01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 21: supporting strikes which.

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: We knew to be right through a diby head to

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: have a side. They did not choose this war.

1602
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 22: Donald Trump did, and he will bear responsibility for it.

1603
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 22: We have seen before what happens when an American president

1604
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 22: launches an illegal war with no idea how or when

1605
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 22: it is going to.

1606
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 15: End international correspondence, with insigneye insurance, peace of mind, New

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 15: Zealand business.

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 2: I've been Robert Little of the road. Morning to you, good,

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 2: bring to you how you do it very well? Indeed,

1610
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: how reluctantly Starmer wasn't going to be part of it?

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 2: Then he was with Defense et cetera, et cetera of

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: France and Germany in a sort of a similar position.

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: How reluctant is he to be where he.

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 23: Is hugely reluctant, But yet another U turn says he's

1615
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 23: going to have no part of it, says he doesn't

1616
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 23: believe that receiving chains can be affected by bobbing, refuses

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01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 23: to allow the US to use either basis in Diego

1618
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 23: Garcia or indeed here, and then changes his mind the

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 23: day later. I mean, it's remarkable.

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: What would the pole say at this present point in time.

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: There's one out in America this morning, it's at twenty

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: seven percent support Trump and what he's doing. What would

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01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: the number be with some sort of British involvement. Is

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: Britain remotely interested in being a part of us?

1625
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 7: No?

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01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 23: I think probably not. That being said, there is a

1627
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 23: great deal of animus against the Iranian regime here. It's

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01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 23: probably rather more anti Iran that we were anti Iraq

1629
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 23: at the time of the Iraq War.

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01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 17: You know.

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 23: The reason, the reasons which Starmar has given for changing

1632
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 23: his mind are patently absurd. He says that he's allowing

1633
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 23: the US to use those air force bases for defensive actions,

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01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 23: that they're defensive actions which have been occasioned by the

1635
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 23: fact that they attacked Iran. I mean, there is no

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01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 23: sense to any of it. And Britain and Germany, France

1637
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 23: have been rightly landbasted by Pete Heskes and various other

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 23: members of the Trump administration.

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: What is the feeling as regards Dubai because there are

1640
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 2: a few countries in the world that park themselves more

1641
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: riddily in Dubai than Poms do a bit of sunshine

1642
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: and what do you do about all that?

1643
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 23: Yes, I have to say that that's one element of

1644
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 23: the war which has rather brought out the glee a

1645
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 23: large number of British people. We've spent the last thirty

1646
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 23: six hours looking at desperate posts from people who call

1647
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 23: themselves influencers and who moved to buy in order to

1648
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 23: escape with the British tax system and are now being

1649
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 23: shelved by the Iranians. So that it's still enormous amount

1650
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 23: of love there. It is featuring very very high on

1651
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 23: the news because, as you rightly say, especially at this

1652
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 23: time of the year, quite a lot of Brits go

1653
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 23: to to buy for a couple of weeks holiday. But

1654
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 23: there's no great love for the UAE either. A country

1655
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 23: incidental un banned from for having written about it.

1656
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: What's the scenes in Europe that this could be a

1657
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: wide regional thing, that this might drag that you know,

1658
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: your situation as you see at the moment, might be

1659
01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: give you. In other words, you get more and more

1660
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 2: immersed in this.

1661
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 23: Yeah, there's a left right split on that. By and

1662
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 23: large the left, and you can see this on the

1663
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 23: BBC's coverage is insisting that this is becoming a worldwide

1664
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 23: conflagration spreading rapidly, that oil prices are going to saw

1665
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 23: that there's no way that we're going to be able

1666
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 23: to be kept out of it. It's all going to

1667
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 23: end in tears. The other side is rather more phlegmatic

1668
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 23: about it than thinking, well, if this gets rid of

1669
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 23: the Iranian regime, all well and good. That being said,

1670
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 23: of course, the Americans have now decided they're not going

1671
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 23: to get rid of the Iranian regime. So there's some doubt.

1672
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 23: There seems to be some doubt in their minds as

1673
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 23: well as to what this adventure is all about.

1674
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: Ma'am, talk to me about the I mean, this would

1675
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 2: have been a far bigger story of the war hadn't

1676
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 2: broken out over the weekend, but coming third was and

1677
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: you called it, and congratulations to you. You said Green, Green, one,

1678
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 2: and Green not only one and Gorton and dinner, but

1679
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: by a lot, and Labor a distant third. Reform. I mean,

1680
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: what a catastrophe.

1681
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 23: It's a catastrophe for the Labor Party, but it is

1682
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 23: arguably a bigger catastrophe for Reform. They expected to win

1683
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 23: that seat, you know, they expected to win it. They

1684
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 23: had a candidate they believed in, even though he wasn't

1685
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 23: local and that may have cost against him a little bit,

1686
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:26,520
Speaker 23: but they didn't win. And it's it's an incredibly significant

1687
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 23: by election because it suggests that, Okay, maybe there's thirty

1688
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 23: percent of people in Britain who really really want Nigel

1689
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 23: Farage to be Prime Minister and Reform to make up

1690
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 23: our government. But I'm afraid there's seventy percent who want anything.

1691
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 23: But even if that means electing the lunatics from the

1692
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 23: Green Party and Boyer. They deranged some of the policies,

1693
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 23: you know, and that's what's happened. Happened in care Philly.

1694
01:20:55,320 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 23: Everyone voted against everyone who didn't want forage co around

1695
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 23: applied to company candidate. It's happened again. This time it

1696
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 23: was the Green candidate. And I think that is a real,

1697
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 23: real blow for reform more than it is for the Labor.

1698
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: Party this claim, and I think for is write to

1699
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: the police about it. At the harvesting of Muslim votes,

1700
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: family voting and all of that, is that real?

1701
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 23: Yeah, it is real. And a left wing think tank,

1702
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 23: or at least a left wing activist group Democracy Volunteers

1703
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 23: were the people who pointed it out that this occurred

1704
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 23: in twelve percent of votes cast. They wreck the polling

1705
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 23: booths they were at involved family voting. I don't think

1706
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 23: you would have made any difference to the result whatsoever,

1707
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 23: or very very little in the you know, I don't

1708
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 23: think that those Muslim women who were shepherded into because

1709
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 23: what it means basically is that the husband's company there

1710
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 23: were women folk into the polling boat chamber and tell

1711
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 23: them what way to vote. I don't think that by themselves,

1712
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 23: so it would have voted reform, you know. So I

1713
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 23: don't think they will have had a material difference, but

1714
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 23: it is yet another example of something which we have

1715
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 23: let go unchecked out of a wish not to offend

1716
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 23: the sensibilities of the Muslim minority.

1717
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: Great have you on the program or seek you Thursday?

1718
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 7: Mate?

1719
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: The rod little out of Britain this morning. By the way,

1720
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: the White House have announced they will briefly House and

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Speaker 2: senatece tomorrow on what is going on. The other major

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Speaker 2: thing in Britain at the moment. The Home Secretary Muhmood

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Speaker 2: has announced that that asylum seeker she's rejigging once the

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Speaker 2: biggest in a generation changes to asylum seekers. Their case

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Speaker 2: will be reviewed every third thirty months, after which they

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Speaker 2: could be sent back to their country of origin, doubling

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Speaker 2: the time it takes most migrants to gain permanent residency

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Speaker 2: from five to ten years in the UK, in the

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Speaker 2: case refugees could take twenty years. Denmark, she visited recently,

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Speaker 2: they moved from assisting system of offering refugees seven years

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Speaker 2: of protection and a route to permanent settlement to reviewing

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Speaker 2: the cases every two years. She liked the sound of that.

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Speaker 2: So the government, she says, is changing an age old

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Speaker 2: assumption of what it means to be a refugee, moving

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Speaker 2: from permanent to temporary status. Fourteen two.

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Speaker 2: US Talks AB. I've got to congratulate Michael Hill in

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Speaker 2: just a couple of moments. So those of you text

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Speaker 2: me about the oil out of Singapore. It's refined in Singapore.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the biggest producers in the world

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Speaker 2: of oil. It's not all the Middle East. A lot

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Speaker 2: of it's the Middle East, but the US is the

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Speaker 2: biggest producer of oil in the world. Canada is a

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Speaker 2: very big producer of oil. China as well, Brazil, Mexico,

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Speaker 2: and Norway are in your top ten of oil produces.

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Speaker 2: The rest, of course, are out of Brazil is another

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Speaker 2: one out of the other rest are out of the

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Speaker 2: Middle East. The important point I think to remember is

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Speaker 2: that the oil is not going to be a problem.

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Speaker 2: There will be oil. There will always be oil. It's

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Speaker 2: just that if the demand outscripts of the supply, which

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Speaker 2: is entirely possible, what will happen as price will go.

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Speaker 2: It's not you won't get it. You'll just have to

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Speaker 2: You'll have to pay for it. Michael Hill. I don't

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Speaker 2: know whether this is a Michael Hill story or whether

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Speaker 2: it's an economy story. I'd like to think it's the latter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like to think it's both. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: they came out with the result yesterday. Things are going well.

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Speaker 2: So if you don't know about Michael Hill, they're in Canada, Australia,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Up until now, Canada and Australia have been okay.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand hasn't as obvious. Today New Zealand appears to

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Speaker 2: be now okay as well. So the New Zealand story

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Speaker 2: is good. We're returning to growth. And the reason I

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Speaker 2: mentioned this is this is all discretionary, of course, and

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Speaker 2: these are the numbers we got the other day for

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Speaker 2: January spending a lot of discretionary spending. In other words,

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Speaker 2: it's stuff we don't necessarily need, but we are wanting

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Speaker 2: to buy and we are willing to spend money on it.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, jewelry surely would be at the top

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Speaker 2: of that pile. Now it might be that within the industry,

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Speaker 2: Michael Hill have done something specific that you know, drags

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Speaker 2: some customers out of one shop and brings it to theirs,

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Speaker 2: and that that's the case. Good on them. But I'd

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Speaker 2: like to think it's more about New Zealand just generally

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Speaker 2: a bit better about life. And when you feel a

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Speaker 2: bit better about life, you go and buy yourself a

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Speaker 2: bit of jewelry. So some very good numbers out of

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Speaker 2: one Michael Hill, but more specifically Michael Hill, New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: So Canada seems to be still the rock star. Don't

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Speaker 2: know what's going on with Canada and jewelry, but at

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Speaker 2: least we're back in growth and that is no bad thing.

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Speaker 2: is this North Island South Island merger thing that the

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Speaker 2: Commerce Commission said no to back in October of twenty

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Speaker 2: four ges. Things turned slowly in this country, don't they. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: they're in court. They're arguing that the COMMISCE Commission said competition.

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Speaker 2: The North Island South Island thing says no, So we'll

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Speaker 2: see where that goes.

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Speaker 2: Good Day Thursday for Apple there's a synchronized three way

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Speaker 2: and who doesn't love one of those? That's Thursday. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you about that closer to the time. But today

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Speaker 2: we've got the tech rumor mill off and running. Matt

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Speaker 2: talks Tech. He had this to say Saturday, don't expect

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Speaker 2: a big bang on you know, the fourth of March.

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Speaker 24: We could be seeing new products happening on the second

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Speaker 24: and the third of March two. So this is super exciting.

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Speaker 24: It's going to be changing here. But what are those

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Speaker 24: products we're most likely going to see. Well, we have

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Speaker 24: a good idea based on leaks of rumors that have

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Speaker 24: been coming in all the time. So the first product

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Speaker 24: we're probably going to see is going to be a

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Speaker 24: brand new iPhone and this will be the iPhone seventeen E.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, and that's exactly as Matt predicted. Seventeen e's out,

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Speaker 2: so there's an upgrade on the It's an entry level

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Speaker 2: if you don't follow the iPhone thing while it's charging

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Speaker 2: twice as fast. Got meg safe only one camera though,

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Speaker 2: but you do get a new chip and you get

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Speaker 2: twice the storage, all for the same price. So that's

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Speaker 2: the that's the seventeen E that's out today, and that'll

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Speaker 2: ret I here for eleven hundred and ninety nine of

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Speaker 2: our New Zealand dollars. But really, I mean, once I've

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Speaker 2: said synchronized three way, that's Thursday for you? Is that

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Speaker 2: Thursday our time? All their time, Friday our time? Why

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Speaker 2: are we saying Thursday, so Friday our time? Now I

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Speaker 2: got to wait another extra day. So this is a

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Speaker 2: synchronized three way in New York, London, and Shanghai. If

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Speaker 2: they are inviting me, i'd pick certainly, wouldn't pick Shanghai.

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Speaker 2: Thank that's great. Have you ever been to Shanghai? No,

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Speaker 2: of course, not London. I'd go to London. You can

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Speaker 2: go to Shanghai. You go to Shanghai, Glen, and I'll go. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that least Sam New York. Sam's going New York for

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Speaker 2: a synchronized three way back tomorrow morning one of my

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