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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks atb.

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Speaker 2: Tom Sainsbury Wear's many hats, actor, writer, comedian, director, host,

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Speaker 2: influencer Ah.

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Speaker 3: He'll hate me saying that.

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Speaker 2: Across film, TV, stage and social media. You might know him,

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Speaker 2: of course, for his political impersonations, all for shows like Wellington,

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Speaker 2: paranormal shows like Educators. And Tom is hosting a winter

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Speaker 2: special of New Zealand's International Comedy Festival and having just

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Speaker 2: returned from a very glamorous international Sojean, he's here with

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Speaker 2: us in Studio Calda.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Hi, It's so good to see you always,

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Speaker 3: and you've just returned from Monaco. So ain't you don't

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Speaker 3: look you don't need to just rub it a.

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Speaker 4: Show off my gold. No, I couldn't get into the

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Speaker 4: main casinos.

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Speaker 3: Just explain to us why you have been in Monaco,

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Speaker 3: of all places, because we liked it on Saturday mornings,

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Speaker 3: we liked you know, in the depths of winter we

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Speaker 3: think about slightly more exotic warmer climbs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I was over there. Look, it's all feeling

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Speaker 4: like I'm flexing, but it's not. We we scraped and

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Speaker 4: saved and we went over to the Caun Film Festival

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Speaker 4: to pitch a new film that day, right right, And

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Speaker 4: while we were there, it was like there's a few

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Speaker 4: kind of days floating around, so like three days and

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Speaker 4: we're like I was there randomly with some other friends

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Speaker 4: that with you, and we're like, let's go to Monico

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Speaker 4: for the day because I've been obsessed with my I've

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Speaker 4: been obsessed with micro states from my entire life, like

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Speaker 4: you know, microstates Luxembourg. Okay, of course, yeah, and I

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Speaker 4: still haven't been. I had the opportunity to go to

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Speaker 4: San Marino. I love Samarino. Yes, have you been to

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Speaker 4: San Marino?

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Speaker 3: I haven't been to San Marina. I think I cheered

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Speaker 3: them more on the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: When you are going to San Marino, please reach out

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Speaker 4: and let me know and if if it can happen,

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Speaker 4: I'm joining you in San Marino. But anyway, we were

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Speaker 4: there and we so we spent that kind of a

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Speaker 4: day there. It's all you really need in Monico. We

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Speaker 4: that all set it up.

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Speaker 3: So there was lots of kind of asked this is

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Speaker 3: sounding a bit like a flex. You can't know you

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Speaker 3: had a bit of downtime just before you head it

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Speaker 3: off to Khan.

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Speaker 4: And wait until you know that I was invited into

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Speaker 4: the palace and I'm now friends, but no, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Across the right. Yeah, my gosh. Okay, So what were

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Speaker 3: you impressions of Monaco?

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Speaker 4: Then? What is it?

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Speaker 3: I because I think it looks awful from the outside.

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Speaker 3: It looks like too much money and not enough taste

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Speaker 3: or people who have. Maybe that's not fair, maybe that's

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Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, though it does seem

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Speaker 3: a bit it's showy. It's a showy place.

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Speaker 4: It is a showy place, but it's also kind of

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Speaker 4: like there's an element of it where they don't want

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Speaker 4: people don't kind of shell. It's not like Vegas were

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Speaker 4: everything's kind of fleshy, fleshing lights and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: It's almost it's more like implied wealth, right, which you

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Speaker 3: I do I very closely, Just like how do you

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Speaker 3: imply wealth? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, well, just the clothing is just pristine,

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Speaker 4: you know, but not showy, like perfectly.

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Speaker 3: It's like Taylor's Okay, It's like it's as though you're

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Speaker 3: perfectly tailored, and it's been professionally laundered. All of your

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Speaker 3: clothing has been professionally launded. That's a flex.

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Speaker 4: That's a flex, and it's the you can you can

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Speaker 3: Someone's iron the sleeves as well as the main part

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Speaker 4: It's fancy and if you were to have any kind

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Speaker 4: of bling, it would be your cuff links. And that's interesting.

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Speaker 4: We're not a watch Oh no, yes, the watch I

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Speaker 4: feel like yeah, yeah, and they head watching watching watch

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Speaker 4: watch watch stores and with the expense, were they crazy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Because you know, is it the partique Philip. That's

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Speaker 3: the one where they say, I only ever see these

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Speaker 4: That's the post. It's the one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's how they do it. They have

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Speaker 3: the post. But that the tagline. I think it is

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Speaker 3: for the partic fleet. They say, no one ever owns

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Speaker 4: You see.

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Speaker 3: You just don't get that with your Cassie Well you

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Speaker 3: g shops Yeah exactly. Okay, that sounds like you would

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Speaker 3: fit right, and you can kind of appreciate that level

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Speaker 3: despite the formula one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you got it.

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Speaker 3: You didn't say around for the formulae I.

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Speaker 4: Was thinking about I was thinking about going for it,

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Speaker 4: but the que because I was staying in Nice, which

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Speaker 4: just down the road. But the next day, like the

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Speaker 4: I don't have done for this, so I didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: That's a flex. That's a flex there. There's the real flex,

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Speaker 3: being able to say I'm here, I'm in Monaco at

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Speaker 3: the Grand Prixs on I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Going to go yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How did the pitching go? Are you allowed to tell us?

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Speaker 1: Or is it?

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Speaker 4: It kind of like these kind of things. It's a beginning.

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Speaker 4: You kind of meet these people and then you've got

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Speaker 4: to develop the relationship. And our pitch went quite it

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Speaker 4: went quite well. But it's all kind of a shifting sands.

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Speaker 4: No one wants to make the first move. We've got

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Speaker 4: people that are kind of interested, but no one until

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Speaker 4: How do you pitch it?

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Speaker 3: How do you pitch a film is it like shark tank?

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Speaker 4: Well our specific thing what like most people don't. But

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Speaker 4: we were very kindly kind of hosted by the New

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Speaker 4: Zealand Film Festival. They kind of film last year, that's right.

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Speaker 4: They were like, do you have a genre piece? And

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Speaker 4: This is called the fant Fantastic Seven and you so

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Speaker 4: it's all from So we were pitching against like an

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Speaker 4: Egyptian film company at Lithuanian Best. They were Lithuanians. All

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's more than most people know.

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Speaker 4: Are wonderfully eccentric. And these filmmakers their film was like

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Speaker 3: And you're like, I'll buy this film, y yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: on you say joking it laughs.

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Speaker 4: I tried jokes on these probably have. People couldn't understand

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Speaker 4: people were kind of chatting like it's that kind of environment.

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Speaker 3: So so basically you go in and they're treating you

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Speaker 4: Go and a very few laughs that Lithuanians did laugh,

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Speaker 4: of course, and also like I didn't. I hadn't really

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Speaker 4: When you become aware of it.

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Speaker 3: The moment you're sweating, you say, I need to stop sweating,

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Speaker 4: I feared sentitry pets also very good.

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Speaker 3: It's not dignified though. You look around Monaco. No one

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Speaker 4: The organized it so that they don't swear it. They're

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Speaker 3: That's again another like subtle indicator of wealth. Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: You just got to know we've got it. Feels like

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Speaker 4: it's it's kind of how do you you're kind of

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Speaker 4: So we have to kind of we have to get

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Speaker 3: But Ken, I don't tell me anything you're not supposed

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Speaker 3: is this film what sort of genre, would it, I.

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Speaker 4: Would maybe it's similar, Like I think it's really funny.

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Speaker 4: It's basically the kind of premise of it is like

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Speaker 4: micro state exactly. And I just love, like I just

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Speaker 4: New Zealanders behave, Like I've spent years thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: So it's all my kind of comedy. So we'll see.

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting because I'm sure people ask you this

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Speaker 3: And I wondered, how your because so much of your

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent? In fact, it was only it was

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Speaker 3: So the problem with Australia is that there are so

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Speaker 3: many keys as well, that's not the problem, but you.

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Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, but I would do a shout out,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, who here's New Zealand, who's in heaven? Gig

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Speaker 4: around that, and it was always about a quarter would

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Speaker 4: think I just think Britain, Australia and New Zealand are

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Speaker 4: the white western kind of vibes. I think that that translates.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent, and probably Brits more than Australians that

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Speaker 3: Can you distill you pick up those quirks in our

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Speaker 4: More like mild irritation. That's sort of like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and it's just so stupid, Like who am I to judge?

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Speaker 3: Strikes me that you are just doing so much stuff,

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Speaker 3: That's actually not right for me right now. I really

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Speaker 4: So I'm hosting an I'm hosting an eything on the

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Speaker 4: So there's a power. I think there's about ten comedians

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Speaker 4: it in some great comedity like David Krios. If you

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And then Courtney Dawson is also great, like she

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Speaker 4: But the amazing thing about a lineup is all these

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Speaker 4: Very funny and also like you're onto the next thing

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Speaker 3: We're glad that we've stolen you back from Monaco for

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Speaker 3: the time being, although I'm sure you're fitt in much

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