1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: So the really good news over the course of this 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: week was that it snowed, and it's snowed big time. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: In fact, it dumped, and this is great news for 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: the Skifields who have been surviving on man made snow 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the whole time, and now they've got some real stuff. 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: And this is good. And the wild and wooly weather 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: arrived in the week that we learned that we are 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: no more ready for a natural disaster today than we 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: were before Cyclone. Gabrielle or gabriel to her friends. A 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, work stopped on the COOP project. You 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: may have heard about this on Tuesday when we're talking 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: to the Prime Minister. So the COOP projects COP stands 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: for Common Operating Platform. It's a data system that could 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: mean that any agency involved in a disaster can communicate 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: with each other in real time. It's making sure that 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: all the computers and all the phones can all talk 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: to each other, and everybody's got contact lists and we 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: can become one big team sorting stuff. We need one 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: for all sorts of things. We need it for weather events. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't have it before, Gabrielle. We needed for bushfires. 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: We would need it in terrorist attacks. We would need 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: it in invasions. Everyone needs to be able to access 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: it and want to talk in police and fire and 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: army and ambulance and civil events. And then once we 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: have a cop common operating platform and the whole thing 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: can be coordinated either from a local level or a 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: regional level, or you can go down to the basement 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: of the beehive and do it from a central position. 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: Most places have a COP, we don't. Not having a 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: common operating system was cited as the major failure in Gabrielle. 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: This is a big thing. I was very glad to 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: hear the Prime Minister of Mike Hosking talking about it 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: earlier in the week. But after describing the problem, the 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: PM then said, you can see how big our turnaround 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: job is with this country, and yes it is. And 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: then Mike read out a text complaining that Dirda and 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Robertson were asleep bit the wheel over the issue of 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: the COP and I just thought, oh, here we go again. 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Blaming the previous administration for this thing is why sometimes 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: nothing ever happens, and we do it a lot. Labour 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: used to do it about national now nationals doing it 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: about labor and the reality about the cop program creating 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: a common operating system. It all started in twenty fourteen 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: under the John Key administration. His cabinet also ordered spatial 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: data infrastructure be built to house the common operating platform 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: infrastructure that all New Zealanders could use to improve their 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: business communication. And according to MB, if we had it, 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: it'd be worth billions to our economy. But they failed. 49 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: They didn't make it twenty fourteen. The bil English administration 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: then failed to implement a system, and then the Durned administration, 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: and then the Hipkins administration and now the Luxid administration 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: because they've let the parties walk away just a few 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: weeks ago. And the common factor in all these failures 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: over a decade is the public service. The problem has 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: always been the inability of the public services involved to agree. 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: They are loath to share their data apparently, and they're 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: worried about privacy, and there's the rub okay for this country. 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Politicians and governments come and go, but the public service 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: is forever. And in this case, I think they're being 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: a bit slack. And whenever I get stuck into public service, 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm told off for punching down that the buck stops 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: at the top with the Minister, and I understand that too. However, 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: at some stage, when you've been waiting for something that 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: the whole country needs, both in terms of disaster and 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: for our business efficiency and our productivity, if you've been 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: waiting ten years for the public service to get it together, 67 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: at some stage you've just got to stop blaming the 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: coach that you've got to start sacking some players. For 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News 70 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Talk Set B from four p m. Weekdays, or follow 71 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.