WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 02 August 2026 0:00:06.667 --> 0:00:10.387 You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 0:00:10.707 --> 0:00:15.387 from News Talks EDB, the only place to discuss the 0:00:15.467 --> 0:00:17.907 biggest sports issues on. 0:00:17.427 --> 0:00:19.787 A head off the field. 0:00:19.987 --> 0:00:20.707 You've got a story. 0:00:21.227 --> 0:00:24.307 It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and the 0:00:24.387 --> 0:00:28.627 udi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout editions on news Talks EDB, 0:00:28.947 --> 0:00:30.027 your home of sport. 0:00:30.747 --> 0:00:32.867 Hello, deck you on to good afternoon. Welcome in. This 0:00:32.987 --> 0:00:36.107 is Weekend Sport, the Sunday edition on news Talks EDB 0:00:36.227 --> 0:00:40.227 for August second. I'm Jason Pine Show produces Andy McDonald. 0:00:40.267 --> 0:00:42.387 We're going to talk to you about sport until three. 0:00:42.787 --> 0:00:46.107 The warry is how good? Really good? On the Gold 0:00:46.147 --> 0:00:51.107 Coast forty two six? Just what was needed after that 0:00:51.387 --> 0:00:54.467 defeat to the Bulldogs last week and ahead of a 0:00:54.587 --> 0:00:59.827 massive game on Friday at home against the table topping Panthers. 0:00:59.867 --> 0:01:01.667 How good is that going to be? Going to breakdown 0:01:02.067 --> 0:01:04.427 yesterday's game after one che had over with you Chance 0:01:04.507 --> 0:01:07.187 Nicol Kluksta is going to join us back in the 0:01:07.187 --> 0:01:09.427 fullback role last night for the first time in a while. 0:01:09.907 --> 0:01:11.907 Keen to know how he found that and keen to 0:01:11.947 --> 0:01:14.427 know from you Warriors fans, how you enjoyed it. I 0:01:14.507 --> 0:01:18.707 just loved it watching us run riot in the sunshine 0:01:18.907 --> 0:01:21.427 on the Gold Coast, one of my favorite places. How 0:01:21.467 --> 0:01:24.587 good is Friday Night? Going to be at Go Media 0:01:24.667 --> 0:01:27.867 against the Panthers League after one. New Auckland FC coach 0:01:27.867 --> 0:01:30.307 Pedro Maldas on the show today, will preview the gold 0:01:30.347 --> 0:01:33.107 medal match and the netball at the Calm Game Silver Ferns, 0:01:33.427 --> 0:01:36.747 Jamaica tonight. And one of our best ever tennis players, 0:01:36.747 --> 0:01:40.147 Marcus Daniel, is on the show too with his latest 0:01:40.147 --> 0:01:44.747 initiative linked to some of our top athletes performances at 0:01:44.747 --> 0:01:48.147 the Commonwealth Games going to start today though. With rugby, 0:01:48.147 --> 0:01:51.187 the All Blacks have arrived in South Africa. First game 0:01:51.427 --> 0:01:54.787 next Saturday morning out time against the Stormers in Cape 0:01:54.867 --> 0:01:58.707 Townham quite curious to find out how South African rugby 0:01:58.747 --> 0:02:02.587 fans and the South African rugby public are feeling about this. 0:02:02.667 --> 0:02:05.867 Are they confident? Are they optimistic? Do they have any 0:02:05.947 --> 0:02:11.587 sense of nervousness or trepidation about the incoming challenge of 0:02:11.707 --> 0:02:13.747 Dave Rennie's All Blacks going to get a South African 0:02:13.827 --> 0:02:16.507 view shortly? Also this sow find out how many key 0:02:16.507 --> 0:02:20.387 we are going to be over there? Watching up close 0:02:20.787 --> 0:02:24.227 several hundred at least as I understand and have purchased 0:02:24.227 --> 0:02:27.787 packages which include match tickets and such like. We'll get 0:02:27.787 --> 0:02:28.787 some more detail on that. 0:02:28.867 --> 0:02:29.147 Actually. 0:02:29.227 --> 0:02:32.067 Keen to hear from you this hour as well. If 0:02:32.107 --> 0:02:34.507 you've been to South Africa to follow the All Blacks, 0:02:34.547 --> 0:02:37.667 what is it like? Really keen to get your experience 0:02:37.707 --> 0:02:40.107 as your stories in particular, And I know this is 0:02:40.907 --> 0:02:43.187 taking a few of our younger listeners out of the equation, 0:02:43.267 --> 0:02:45.187 but if you were there in ninety five for the 0:02:45.227 --> 0:02:48.907 World Couple ninety six for the last time the All 0:02:48.907 --> 0:02:51.547 Blacks tour at South Africa, that famous tour, but keen 0:02:51.587 --> 0:02:54.107 to hear what it was like over there, or if 0:02:54.147 --> 0:02:55.587 you've been there at all, to watch the All Blacks 0:02:55.627 --> 0:02:59.067 live sport This afternoon, the NPC continues Round one Northland 0:02:59.147 --> 0:03:00.707 up against Mine over' two just up to two and 0:03:00.747 --> 0:03:02.267 fung it A will keep eyes on that for you. 0:03:02.627 --> 0:03:05.507 As always, the show is open for you to involve 0:03:05.587 --> 0:03:08.147 yourself in oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:03:08.147 --> 0:03:10.147 our phone number nine two nine two for year text 0:03:10.187 --> 0:03:13.987 messages and emails to Jason at newstalksb dot co dot nz. 0:03:14.147 --> 0:03:16.187 Coming up ten past midday, the. 0:03:16.187 --> 0:03:19.707 Scoreboard only tells half the story finally tells the rest. 0:03:19.907 --> 0:03:23.627 Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and the Audi Q seven 0:03:23.707 --> 0:03:27.627 Dynamic Black Runout Edition Test Drive Today News Talks NB. 0:03:28.387 --> 0:03:30.547 The All Blacks have arrived in South Africa for the 0:03:30.667 --> 0:03:36.467 highly anticipated Greatest Rivalry Tour. Around five thousand fans attended 0:03:36.587 --> 0:03:40.667 an open event at DHL Stadium in Cape Town, where 0:03:40.667 --> 0:03:43.267 the All Blacks will begin the tour against the Stormers 0:03:43.307 --> 0:03:46.267 next weekend. Great pleasure to welcome in one of South 0:03:46.307 --> 0:03:50.987 Africa's most experienced and respected rugby reporters and analysts and 0:03:51.067 --> 0:03:54.787 longtime observer of the spring Box, Brendan Nell. Thanks for 0:03:54.867 --> 0:03:57.987 joining us, Brendan. Does the arrival of the All Blacks 0:03:57.987 --> 0:04:01.347 still generate a different level of excitement compared to other 0:04:01.627 --> 0:04:02.747 touring teams. 0:04:03.227 --> 0:04:03.987 Well, definitely. 0:04:03.987 --> 0:04:05.947 I think the only other team that comes close is 0:04:05.947 --> 0:04:08.627 probably the British and Irish Lions when they when they tore, 0:04:08.947 --> 0:04:13.307 and that's so seldom anyway. Yeah, I think there's always 0:04:13.307 --> 0:04:15.867 a buzz around the All Blacks in South Africa, and 0:04:16.307 --> 0:04:18.107 just as there's in I'm sure in New Zealand with 0:04:18.187 --> 0:04:21.227 the spring Boxer there, but especially ahead of a tour 0:04:21.347 --> 0:04:24.547 like this because yeah, I was, I was chatting to 0:04:24.587 --> 0:04:27.467 somebody the other day. Nineteen ninety six was my first 0:04:27.467 --> 0:04:31.227 tour as a rugulay writer, and it's just it's bizarre 0:04:31.267 --> 0:04:33.947 to think it's been thirty years since there's been a 0:04:33.987 --> 0:04:36.427 proper tour. So yeah, there's a lot of excitement about 0:04:36.427 --> 0:04:39.307 that going around in the next couple of weeks. And 0:04:39.387 --> 0:04:40.987 I think it's even just now that the All Blacks 0:04:41.027 --> 0:04:42.627 a years can just get bigger. 0:04:42.707 --> 0:04:46.027 South Abreger of one, five of the last sixtiest between 0:04:46.227 --> 0:04:49.907 the two nations. Despite that, is there still an overriding 0:04:49.947 --> 0:04:52.347 feeling that you can never take the All Blacks lightly? 0:04:53.427 --> 0:04:54.307 Well, I think so. 0:04:54.467 --> 0:04:57.067 I mean I always remember when, I mean when the 0:04:57.107 --> 0:05:00.227 All Blacks were so dominant back in was that fifty 0:05:00.267 --> 0:05:02.747 seven mill at Albany that that that horror day that 0:05:02.827 --> 0:05:05.867 we had. Yeah, two weeks later it was in Cape 0:05:05.867 --> 0:05:07.227 Town and was a one point game. 0:05:07.307 --> 0:05:10.507 So yeah, I think the spring Box there's so much respect. 0:05:10.147 --> 0:05:12.307 Between the two sides that they know that the All 0:05:12.307 --> 0:05:14.507 Blacks on the one side that can lift themselves. 0:05:14.787 --> 0:05:17.107 We saw in the World Cup, I mean, gaining that final. 0:05:17.987 --> 0:05:20.467 Everybody thought the spring Box were one song They're going 0:05:20.507 --> 0:05:23.067 to win it, Yeah, and the All Blacks made it 0:05:23.107 --> 0:05:26.107 an extremely difficult game which the spring Boks are probably. 0:05:25.947 --> 0:05:26.987 Lucky to get away with it. 0:05:27.027 --> 0:05:29.107 Then there then went on for another ten minutes it 0:05:29.627 --> 0:05:30.667 may have been a different result. 0:05:30.747 --> 0:05:33.747 So yeah, you're never safe against the All Blacks. 0:05:34.027 --> 0:05:37.787 It's it's it's always a game where there's probably less 0:05:37.827 --> 0:05:40.947 than less than a try in it normally. And yes, 0:05:41.107 --> 0:05:44.307 I think South Africans respect the All Blacks a lots 0:05:44.347 --> 0:05:47.987 and we're looking forward to this challenge because things have 0:05:47.987 --> 0:05:49.787 been going very well for the Box at the moment, 0:05:49.827 --> 0:05:52.307 but we know the one team that can give us 0:05:52.307 --> 0:05:53.707 a lot of problems are the All Blacks. 0:05:53.827 --> 0:05:55.427 Well, the other layer to this, of course, is that 0:05:55.467 --> 0:05:58.307 the All Blacks come into this series under a relatively 0:05:58.347 --> 0:06:01.147 new coaching team lead by Dave Rennie and after wins 0:06:01.187 --> 0:06:04.307 in July and the Nation's championship against France, Italyan Ireland, 0:06:04.907 --> 0:06:07.947 have those performances set and those results caught the attention 0:06:08.067 --> 0:06:09.907 of rightb people in South Africa. 0:06:11.107 --> 0:06:11.867 Well, I think it. 0:06:12.307 --> 0:06:15.587 Has because for a couple of reasons, you know, I mean, obviously, 0:06:15.787 --> 0:06:17.907 sitting on the side of the world, we're not always 0:06:17.907 --> 0:06:20.867 privy to what happened with Raiser and behind the scenes there. 0:06:21.107 --> 0:06:23.987 We've heard a lot of stories obviously, but yeah, we 0:06:24.027 --> 0:06:28.507 always felt it was a bit harsh on Raiser because almost, yeah, 0:06:28.547 --> 0:06:30.627 it was almost like Heinekameyer when the All Blacks were 0:06:30.627 --> 0:06:34.027 so dominant twenty eleven, twenty fifteen. It doesn't matter how 0:06:34.027 --> 0:06:35.467 good a coach you are, when you've got a team 0:06:35.507 --> 0:06:38.267 that's that dominant, you're always going to your results are 0:06:38.307 --> 0:06:38.787 always going. 0:06:38.747 --> 0:06:41.347 To look a bit chevvy. So I felt for. 0:06:41.547 --> 0:06:43.427 Raising a bit because this is a very dominant era 0:06:43.507 --> 0:06:46.467 for the spring Box. But what Dave Renny has brought 0:06:46.627 --> 0:06:48.587 is is we can see the All Blacks playing with 0:06:48.627 --> 0:06:51.187 a purpose, with a lot more a lot more direct, 0:06:52.227 --> 0:06:53.867 and a lot more the All Blacks of all that 0:06:53.947 --> 0:06:56.547 we've seen as well, so very much the DNA of 0:06:56.587 --> 0:06:58.147 the All Blacks that we've seen in the past. 0:06:58.507 --> 0:07:00.547 So I think I think the other thing. 0:07:00.387 --> 0:07:03.227 As well is well, we're also vary is because Dave 0:07:03.227 --> 0:07:06.107 Renny might have had a terrible record at the Wallabies. 0:07:06.387 --> 0:07:08.787 I think it's thirty eight percent record, but against South 0:07:08.827 --> 0:07:11.107 Africa and that period, winners at the wallabasy one three 0:07:11.147 --> 0:07:13.627 out of four. Now, I mean there's always asterix and 0:07:13.667 --> 0:07:15.147 there's a couple of the things you can say woul 0:07:15.147 --> 0:07:17.627 happened in each game, but still that's a good record 0:07:17.667 --> 0:07:18.667 against Russian russemus. 0:07:18.667 --> 0:07:20.147 I don't think there are many coaches. 0:07:19.787 --> 0:07:22.827 In world rugby that have their record against Russi as well. 0:07:22.907 --> 0:07:25.947 So yeah, that's also another reason that the Box are 0:07:25.987 --> 0:07:27.147 taking this very seriously. 0:07:27.187 --> 0:07:30.267 This is the biggest test for then this year. Russy 0:07:30.267 --> 0:07:31.387 got a bit of blowback when you. 0:07:31.347 --> 0:07:34.307 Said the Nations Championship wasn't that big, because this is 0:07:34.347 --> 0:07:35.947 the big thing this year and I think we all 0:07:35.987 --> 0:07:36.627 feel that way. 0:07:36.747 --> 0:07:38.907 All right, Well, let's talk about South Africa, then world's 0:07:38.947 --> 0:07:42.467 number one ranked team, back to back World Cup winners. 0:07:42.507 --> 0:07:46.387 They comfortably won all three of their Nations Championship matches 0:07:46.627 --> 0:07:49.387 in July. You've seen a lot of All Blacks and 0:07:49.507 --> 0:07:54.587 South African rugby matches, Brendan. How does the South African side? 0:07:54.627 --> 0:07:54.787 Right? 0:07:54.947 --> 0:07:57.867 Is this among the best South African sides you've seen? 0:07:59.267 --> 0:07:59.627 Well? 0:08:00.107 --> 0:08:02.987 In my time, it's certainly the best spring Box side. 0:08:03.387 --> 0:08:06.027 I'm not one who likes comparing eras because I feel, 0:08:06.387 --> 0:08:08.227 you know, the game changes. If you look at the 0:08:08.267 --> 0:08:11.187 games twenty thirty years ago, they look very different than 0:08:11.187 --> 0:08:14.947 the games played now. Yeah, but The only team I 0:08:14.987 --> 0:08:16.947 can really compare it to in this area is probably 0:08:16.987 --> 0:08:20.947 that two thousand and seven team of Victor Matfield, BUCkies, 0:08:20.987 --> 0:08:23.587 bether John Smith, those Brian Habana, those type of guys, 0:08:24.067 --> 0:08:26.187 and the difference between this team and that team is 0:08:26.227 --> 0:08:29.627 this team's been dominant between World Cups. The South Africans 0:08:29.707 --> 0:08:33.307 then have at times slipped between World Cups and their 0:08:33.347 --> 0:08:36.867 standards and the depth in this team is incredible at 0:08:36.907 --> 0:08:39.587 the moment. I think we saw it in last year 0:08:39.627 --> 0:08:42.227 when they turned New Zealand. We saw after Eden Park 0:08:42.307 --> 0:08:44.907 that almost changed the entire team, and then they had 0:08:44.947 --> 0:08:47.907 a huge winning Wellington and they had a point luckily 0:08:47.947 --> 0:08:50.467 all Extreen twenty eleven, twenty fifteen that they could almost 0:08:50.707 --> 0:08:52.507 feel two separate teams. 0:08:52.547 --> 0:08:54.307 We saw the sere in the Nations Championship. 0:08:54.707 --> 0:08:58.587 They made I think eleven changes against Scotland and still 0:08:58.827 --> 0:09:00.747 won that game quite comfortably at the end. 0:09:00.827 --> 0:09:02.667 So they're in a very good spot at the moment. 0:09:02.707 --> 0:09:04.667 There's a lots of competition in the team and there's 0:09:04.707 --> 0:09:07.467 a host of youngsters. South Africa is also back to 0:09:07.547 --> 0:09:10.347 back Junior World champions and you know there's a host 0:09:10.427 --> 0:09:13.187 of host of those guys coming through pushing for places 0:09:13.267 --> 0:09:15.227 and hopefully for the next World Cup. 0:09:15.427 --> 0:09:17.947 We're just on that depth and the number of quality 0:09:18.027 --> 0:09:21.507 players that Rascia Erasmus now has to select from that 0:09:21.667 --> 0:09:24.427 must also be a challenge for him because everybody wants 0:09:24.467 --> 0:09:27.387 to play, but not everybody can. So how has Racia 0:09:27.387 --> 0:09:31.027 Erasmus managed his side with so much depth, and of 0:09:31.067 --> 0:09:32.707 course the young players coming through as well. 0:09:33.787 --> 0:09:35.947 I think it's it's probably it's going to sound like 0:09:36.147 --> 0:09:37.267 a hell of a ciche that. 0:09:37.387 --> 0:09:38.987 I mean the year at a lot in New Zealand 0:09:39.027 --> 0:09:42.787 as well about you only you only you've only wearing 0:09:42.867 --> 0:09:45.307 that jersey for a while. You know you're keeping it 0:09:45.387 --> 0:09:47.787 warm for the next guy, You're keeping the legacy going. 0:09:48.307 --> 0:09:50.467 And it's very much that I think Russi's will say 0:09:50.587 --> 0:09:54.107 brutally direct at times. Anybody who's seen Chasing the Sun, 0:09:54.227 --> 0:09:58.107 that famous scene where he said to cause is not 0:09:58.187 --> 0:10:01.827 the most important thing in South Africa and and you 0:10:01.947 --> 0:10:04.947 think a captain as iconic as here and somebody is saying. 0:10:04.747 --> 0:10:06.707 That to him, only Russi would be able to do that. 0:10:06.987 --> 0:10:09.107 So I think also what happens is. 0:10:09.147 --> 0:10:11.427 They've got to a point where the training sessions are 0:10:12.067 --> 0:10:17.547 test match intensity and there's a very honest approach with 0:10:17.667 --> 0:10:19.827 saying that some of these double World Cup winners are 0:10:19.947 --> 0:10:23.787 reaching the end of the thing. If they can still 0:10:23.827 --> 0:10:26.187 handle the training sessions, and they can still handle the 0:10:26.307 --> 0:10:28.067 youngsters in those training sessions, then. 0:10:28.547 --> 0:10:29.867 They'll be fine to play tests. 0:10:29.987 --> 0:10:32.307 But we've already seen a couple of guys bombing and 0:10:32.587 --> 0:10:34.947 the numbie Fifter Clark cars like that we didn't think 0:10:34.947 --> 0:10:37.147 would fall by the way, so so quickly who have 0:10:37.427 --> 0:10:38.027 so early? 0:10:38.107 --> 0:10:39.307 As we go along, we'll see that. 0:10:39.827 --> 0:10:41.707 And at the moment he's going to squad of I 0:10:41.747 --> 0:10:44.587 think forty three plus a couple of probably around fifty players. 0:10:44.867 --> 0:10:46.507 He's going to cut a hold of those before we 0:10:46.507 --> 0:10:47.707 go to the World Cup. So there's going to be 0:10:47.787 --> 0:10:48.787 some guys before, by the way. 0:10:48.867 --> 0:10:51.467 So all right, Brennan, well, please give us here in 0:10:51.507 --> 0:10:52.507 New Zealand some hope. 0:10:52.867 --> 0:10:53.187 Can you? 0:10:53.547 --> 0:10:56.947 Are there any weaknesses in the South African side, all 0:10:57.067 --> 0:10:58.987 areas that all Blacks might look to exploit? 0:10:59.747 --> 0:11:02.027 Well, I think I think the one thing that this 0:11:02.427 --> 0:11:04.547 book team has shown, the one difference to this team, 0:11:04.547 --> 0:11:07.227 and that's why I've heard so pundits in the last 0:11:07.267 --> 0:11:09.107 couple of weeks saying you've got to run the spring 0:11:09.187 --> 0:11:11.947 Box off their feet and and so makes All Blacks 0:11:11.947 --> 0:11:14.827 saying things like that, this team with Tony Brown is 0:11:14.907 --> 0:11:17.427 probably a spring box team, will probably run you off 0:11:17.427 --> 0:11:19.547 your feet a lot quicker than you will. Then they 0:11:19.627 --> 0:11:23.707 extremely fit. Yeah, they like playing the expensive game. They 0:11:23.787 --> 0:11:25.787 still got the physicality, they still got the scrub. 0:11:26.187 --> 0:11:26.467 I think. 0:11:26.467 --> 0:11:28.107 I think what the All Blacks need to do is 0:11:28.787 --> 0:11:31.667 obviously match that physicality. I think that's any team who 0:11:31.667 --> 0:11:34.587 plays the spring box. That's no state secret that. But 0:11:35.027 --> 0:11:37.227 the All Blacks have X factor in their back line. 0:11:37.507 --> 0:11:40.747 And yeah, they've got some great players who can rip 0:11:40.787 --> 0:11:41.467 a game open. 0:11:41.907 --> 0:11:42.107 Yeah. 0:11:42.187 --> 0:11:45.667 And and I think South Africa's biggest thing is you 0:11:45.787 --> 0:11:47.507 can't let the All Blacks get a start. 0:11:47.627 --> 0:11:47.987 You can't. 0:11:48.467 --> 0:11:49.747 It's going to be a fight to the end and 0:11:49.787 --> 0:11:51.547 you've got to be in that game for any minutes. 0:11:51.627 --> 0:11:54.507 So yeah, Russie's team is going to be very interesting 0:11:54.547 --> 0:11:57.547 because we're playing against Argentina now in the next week. 0:11:58.187 --> 0:12:00.187 It's just before we play the All Blacks, and that's 0:12:00.227 --> 0:12:03.027 to give a bunch of the returning guys a chance 0:12:03.107 --> 0:12:03.507 to play. 0:12:04.267 --> 0:12:07.267 But the team that the twenty he's going to pick 0:12:07.347 --> 0:12:08.267 for the test, there's going. 0:12:08.267 --> 0:12:09.547 To be the team that's going to beat the All 0:12:09.627 --> 0:12:12.187 Blacks in his mind, and there's gonna be a lot 0:12:12.227 --> 0:12:12.947 of competition for that. 0:12:13.107 --> 0:12:15.827 So to me, rugby ball, you know, I always say 0:12:15.867 --> 0:12:19.747 to people, well the Welsh. I was on BBC Wales before. 0:12:19.507 --> 0:12:21.907 The Wells Test and they asked me the same thing, 0:12:21.947 --> 0:12:24.147 give us some hope and it's hard with Wales and 0:12:24.227 --> 0:12:26.227 where the state they are. And all I said to 0:12:26.267 --> 0:12:28.867 them was, you know, rugby ball bounces. You just need 0:12:28.987 --> 0:12:31.387 to have one wrong balance, one ball go into one 0:12:31.467 --> 0:12:33.947 player's hands and it changes the dynamic of a game. 0:12:33.947 --> 0:12:36.907 We've seen itself. And the All Blacks are not Wales. 0:12:37.067 --> 0:12:39.587 They are much much better team and the spring Boks 0:12:39.627 --> 0:12:40.547 know that they respect that. 0:12:41.067 --> 0:12:42.307 So I think the. 0:12:42.347 --> 0:12:44.787 Biggest factor for me in this test series is probably 0:12:44.827 --> 0:12:46.187 going to be the four back. 0:12:46.027 --> 0:12:50.587 To back tests. These games are incredibly physical. 0:12:51.467 --> 0:12:54.187 Modern rugby players haven't played four back to back tests 0:12:54.627 --> 0:12:56.947 other than on in November too, and usually there's some 0:12:57.827 --> 0:13:00.747 tests that's a bit lighter in those tests than they are. 0:13:00.827 --> 0:13:04.067 But these four intensely physical tests are going to take 0:13:04.067 --> 0:13:06.267 a toll and I think that's where squad depth is 0:13:06.347 --> 0:13:07.907 in the coming So it's going to be very important 0:13:08.147 --> 0:13:09.867 the team that's gonna be left standing by the time 0:13:09.907 --> 0:13:12.107 they get to Baltimore is going to be the team 0:13:12.147 --> 0:13:13.027 that's probably gonna win it. 0:13:13.467 --> 0:13:16.467 That'saw a really interesting tweet from you during the week, Brendon, 0:13:16.787 --> 0:13:18.667 and you said, I know people have the right to 0:13:18.707 --> 0:13:21.467 support whoever they want, but given everything Racy and see 0:13:21.467 --> 0:13:24.027 as Box have achieved and what they mean for the 0:13:24.107 --> 0:13:27.067 majority of this country, it's still astounds me to see 0:13:27.107 --> 0:13:30.907 many South Africans support another country against their own. In 0:13:30.947 --> 0:13:33.987 the past, understandable, but not now. That's what you tweeted out. 0:13:34.147 --> 0:13:37.947 So we know how much South African rugby fans respect 0:13:37.987 --> 0:13:40.787 the all blacks and love the all blacks. Is there 0:13:40.827 --> 0:13:43.747 still a deep affection for the all blacks in parts 0:13:43.787 --> 0:13:44.507 of South Africa. 0:13:45.947 --> 0:13:47.787 I think there's two different things. 0:13:48.507 --> 0:13:50.547 When I was addressing those tweets said, we saw a 0:13:50.627 --> 0:13:53.027 bunch of all black fans turn up in Cape Town, 0:13:53.067 --> 0:13:56.347 and there's always been a lot of support historically because 0:13:56.387 --> 0:13:58.627 of a part time, because of the exclusion of a 0:13:58.787 --> 0:14:01.587 large part of our population. At a lot of fans 0:14:01.627 --> 0:14:04.707 supported the opposing team against the spring Box for good reason. 0:14:05.627 --> 0:14:07.387 I just think we you know, with thirty years on 0:14:07.867 --> 0:14:10.427 more than thirty years on now. The people that they 0:14:10.507 --> 0:14:14.187 were there yesterday weren't born, but we know all that happened. 0:14:14.627 --> 0:14:17.187 And I think more than that, this Springbok team at 0:14:17.187 --> 0:14:20.507 the moment probably represents the country more than any Springbok 0:14:20.547 --> 0:14:23.187 team I've ever seen. It's taken the whole concept of 0:14:23.347 --> 0:14:25.867 race out of the discussion around the spring box, which 0:14:25.867 --> 0:14:26.547 always was there. 0:14:26.907 --> 0:14:29.387 We used to have talk about quotas and things like that. 0:14:29.507 --> 0:14:30.387 That's all by the way. 0:14:30.467 --> 0:14:32.667 So every player that's in that team now at the 0:14:32.747 --> 0:14:35.387 moment is there on merit and has been X fact 0:14:35.427 --> 0:14:37.667 and would probably walk into most world teams as well. 0:14:38.067 --> 0:14:41.467 So I feel for that, and well I would see 0:14:42.147 --> 0:14:44.507 that and Russia I have done with this team has 0:14:44.547 --> 0:14:47.907 probably done a lot more for South African politics, sha say, 0:14:48.267 --> 0:14:51.987 or race relations than anything anything of politicians done. 0:14:52.467 --> 0:14:54.267 So to me, you still see. 0:14:54.307 --> 0:14:58.067 South African fans supporting the all blacks, I don't quite 0:14:58.147 --> 0:15:00.227 understand it. To each day own you can support whoever 0:15:00.307 --> 0:15:01.707 you want to at the end of the day, I 0:15:01.787 --> 0:15:03.547 don't understand it, and I think that's what I was 0:15:03.587 --> 0:15:07.227 pointing out. I think just generally that crowd which was 0:15:07.467 --> 0:15:11.067 four or five thousand yesterday, twenty years, fifteen years ago 0:15:11.067 --> 0:15:14.667 will probably fifteen or twenty thousand, so I think that's changed. 0:15:14.707 --> 0:15:15.507 It's getting smaller. 0:15:16.107 --> 0:15:17.827 But on the other the rest of the country in 0:15:17.867 --> 0:15:21.227 nineteen ninety percent of the country I think respects the 0:15:21.307 --> 0:15:23.867 All Blacks in terms of we love the rugby, we 0:15:23.987 --> 0:15:27.067 love the culture, we love the rivalry. 0:15:28.427 --> 0:15:29.707 But I mean, at the end of the day, we 0:15:29.747 --> 0:15:31.507 still want to smash your guys, and I think that's 0:15:31.507 --> 0:15:34.147 what it comes down to. It's exactly the same on YOURSLFE. 0:15:34.227 --> 0:15:37.707 Absolutely absolutely it is. Well, let's talk about the series 0:15:37.747 --> 0:15:40.147 to finish. We've been talking a lot over here about 0:15:40.387 --> 0:15:42.907 what might happen in these four test matches in particular, 0:15:43.307 --> 0:15:45.947 and what would be a good result and acceptable result 0:15:46.027 --> 0:15:48.467 for us in terms of series, and there seems to 0:15:48.507 --> 0:15:50.227 be a bit of a consensus that if we were 0:15:50.267 --> 0:15:52.707 able to square the series against the number one team 0:15:52.747 --> 0:15:54.627 in the world, that would be a good result. What 0:15:54.747 --> 0:15:57.147 about from your point of view, Brendan, would too, too 0:15:58.147 --> 0:16:01.227 be considered a failure for South Africa. 0:16:03.507 --> 0:16:05.827 That's a good question. I'm not quite sure. I mean, 0:16:05.907 --> 0:16:07.867 obviously I think the spring Box would probably want to 0:16:07.907 --> 0:16:08.547 win for NOLA. 0:16:08.547 --> 0:16:10.867 I mean that if you ask them, But I think, 0:16:11.387 --> 0:16:13.907 as I say, back to back tests and the way 0:16:13.987 --> 0:16:16.427 I've seen I mean, that's the one thing we don't 0:16:16.467 --> 0:16:18.347 have anymore in modern rugby when we used to have 0:16:18.427 --> 0:16:20.747 the three test series, and the last couple of years 0:16:20.787 --> 0:16:22.947 we've seen how teams have adapted from the first test 0:16:22.987 --> 0:16:25.107 to the second test. So I think the box know 0:16:25.227 --> 0:16:27.907 this challenge is going to be very real. So I 0:16:27.907 --> 0:16:31.307 wouldn't personally say it's a failure. It depends on how 0:16:31.387 --> 0:16:34.707 those defeats are and how those you know, if there's 0:16:34.707 --> 0:16:36.627 a blowout, I think it will be seen as a failure. 0:16:36.667 --> 0:16:39.787 But yeah, there's so much pride in the Springbok team. 0:16:39.787 --> 0:16:41.187 I think these games are all going to go down 0:16:41.187 --> 0:16:43.107 to the y and at the end of the day, 0:16:43.147 --> 0:16:44.427 you just hope you're on the right side of it. 0:16:44.507 --> 0:16:44.787 I don't. 0:16:45.107 --> 0:16:48.147 I think South African fans don't. I won't say mind 0:16:48.267 --> 0:16:51.107 losing the All Blacks. I think they understand it a 0:16:51.147 --> 0:16:53.267 lot more. We just don't want to see a fifty 0:16:53.307 --> 0:16:55.667 seven nolar like we saw in Albany. I think that 0:16:55.947 --> 0:16:58.427 was the low point for US all, probably even lower 0:16:58.507 --> 0:17:00.467 than losing to Japan at the World Cup, which I 0:17:00.507 --> 0:17:04.267 was also at. I mean that one just it was, Yeah, 0:17:04.347 --> 0:17:06.467 it was a horrible day, but that fifty seven and 0:17:06.507 --> 0:17:09.187 they still sticks, sticks in your brain the whole time, 0:17:09.747 --> 0:17:11.987 just like I'm sure Wellington does last year, because that 0:17:12.147 --> 0:17:15.227 was a superb performance by the spring Box. And yeah, 0:17:15.467 --> 0:17:17.827 so I think I think to too it probably would. 0:17:17.867 --> 0:17:19.867 It would be seemed like a too two draw. It 0:17:19.907 --> 0:17:23.427 wouldn't be seen as favorable or unfavorable. But I think 0:17:23.467 --> 0:17:24.587 they'd win it, win all forward. 0:17:24.827 --> 0:17:27.107 Yeah, well, the forty three to ten still sticks to us, 0:17:27.307 --> 0:17:29.787 sticks in our minds. Brendan, I can assure you of that. 0:17:29.947 --> 0:17:31.947 That's a bit more recent than the fifty seven nil 0:17:32.227 --> 0:17:36.067 at Albany, over a decade or so ago. Now, great 0:17:36.107 --> 0:17:37.787 to chat to you. Thanks for painting a picture for 0:17:37.907 --> 0:17:40.427 us from a South African point of view. Whatever happens 0:17:40.467 --> 0:17:42.267 over the next couple of weeks or so, a couple 0:17:42.307 --> 0:17:44.587 of months or so, I really hope you enjoy it. 0:17:45.267 --> 0:17:47.027 Oh yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. I must 0:17:47.027 --> 0:17:48.427 have been ninety six was a blast. 0:17:49.227 --> 0:17:51.307 I don't think I appreciated it because I was very 0:17:51.387 --> 0:17:54.507 young as a journal But this one I'm really looking 0:17:54.507 --> 0:17:54.787 forward to. 0:17:54.987 --> 0:17:55.147 Yeah. 0:17:55.267 --> 0:17:57.907 So awee, Brendan saw We Thanks for joining us, mate, Brendan. 0:17:58.147 --> 0:18:01.067 Now there out of South Africa with his thoughts on 0:18:01.307 --> 0:18:05.907 this upcoming series. I just I feel though if I 0:18:06.027 --> 0:18:08.827 was South African, I'd be supremely confident. I'd look at 0:18:08.867 --> 0:18:10.347 my team and go, you know what, we're the best 0:18:10.387 --> 0:18:13.627 team in the world. We're playing at home against a 0:18:13.707 --> 0:18:16.547 team with a new coaching staff who we've beaten in 0:18:16.667 --> 0:18:20.387 five of the last six Test matches, including forty three 0:18:20.627 --> 0:18:24.547 ten in New Zealand the last time we locked horns. 0:18:25.307 --> 0:18:28.547 So they, I guess, are right to be confident. But 0:18:28.707 --> 0:18:30.627 that just makes me want to beat them more. 0:18:31.787 --> 0:18:32.107 I just. 0:18:33.827 --> 0:18:36.467 Even listening to Brendan there and heck of a nice guy. 0:18:36.467 --> 0:18:38.947 I love them, But you can South Africans think they're 0:18:38.947 --> 0:18:41.747 going to beat us four nil. That's what they think. 0:18:44.067 --> 0:18:45.707 What do you reckon? I mean, we've sort of been 0:18:45.787 --> 0:18:47.707 over and over this kind of you know what would 0:18:47.747 --> 0:18:50.227 be a successful series score and that sort of thing. 0:18:50.427 --> 0:18:52.267 We've had that conversation. You could add to it if 0:18:52.267 --> 0:18:54.347 you want to, But I just now want to beat 0:18:54.387 --> 0:18:58.227 them more than ever. I will say, keen to hear 0:18:58.267 --> 0:19:00.947 from you if you have followed the All Blacks two 0:19:00.987 --> 0:19:05.187 South Africa. Nick Roland from Sports, Travel and Hospitality Group 0:19:05.227 --> 0:19:07.227 going to join us before one to give us some 0:19:07.347 --> 0:19:09.747 insight into how many New Zealand fans are traveling for 0:19:09.827 --> 0:19:13.827 this tour. But were you there in nineteen ninety five 0:19:13.947 --> 0:19:16.227 for the Rugby World Cup or in nineteen ninety six 0:19:16.827 --> 0:19:19.827 when the All Blacks last embarked on a full tour 0:19:19.947 --> 0:19:22.347 of South Africa really came to hear his stories? If 0:19:22.427 --> 0:19:25.507 you were, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty on that 0:19:25.787 --> 0:19:30.067 or any aspect of the upcoming tour which begins next 0:19:30.267 --> 0:19:33.547 Saturday morning against the Stormers in Cape Town, lines are 0:19:33.587 --> 0:19:37.467 open on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Anthony, Good afternoon. 0:19:37.907 --> 0:19:41.867 Good afternoon, made hwaa very good, Thank you hey mane. Yeah, 0:19:41.867 --> 0:19:43.827 I've just listened to your previous call, and I guess 0:19:43.867 --> 0:19:46.587 it's probably a journal a journalist, and it is so 0:19:46.787 --> 0:19:48.907 easy for people to talk about these thirty years have 0:19:49.147 --> 0:19:53.187 gone and why haven't people moved on? You know what, Piny, 0:19:53.667 --> 0:19:55.147 just a couple of years ago, I took my four 0:19:55.187 --> 0:19:58.107 or five years ago, they had this Smatfield guy who 0:19:58.347 --> 0:20:02.387 absolutely and relating to Damien vallenca about him not being 0:20:02.467 --> 0:20:05.987 a springbog worse a springbok jersey. You know, we had 0:20:06.067 --> 0:20:08.787 a guy the name of Ashmund Willemser, who was absolutely 0:20:08.947 --> 0:20:12.907 banned to Siberia after he criticized to a part that 0:20:13.107 --> 0:20:18.147 fossils I would call him Nasburta and Nick Mallet, you know, 0:20:18.267 --> 0:20:20.027 and and and and and So when you see those 0:20:20.147 --> 0:20:23.867 four five thousand people at Cape Down Stadium, uh, you know, 0:20:24.867 --> 0:20:28.107 showing their support for the or Blacks, I can understand 0:20:28.107 --> 0:20:31.947 what people say about thirty years ago. Uh we we 0:20:32.147 --> 0:20:37.987 got uh we had uh a political freedom of got 0:20:38.027 --> 0:20:42.147 political freedom but conveniently forgeed but conveniently. 0:20:41.627 --> 0:20:42.747 Forgetting that. 0:20:44.267 --> 0:20:47.507 During all that time, it was a struggle for us 0:20:47.587 --> 0:20:51.467 to get acknowledgement you know from South African media specifically 0:20:52.147 --> 0:20:55.707 Uh that we uh, I mean the old quota system, 0:20:56.187 --> 0:20:59.067 which was a hated word in our community. You know, 0:20:59.147 --> 0:21:01.707 it took us years to to sort of like show 0:21:02.387 --> 0:21:05.547 that we actually belong there. And uh and then when 0:21:05.547 --> 0:21:07.867 you see the fort four thousand people at Cape Down 0:21:07.947 --> 0:21:11.427 Stadium the other day, Uh, this is just a manifestation 0:21:11.587 --> 0:21:13.787 of all of that. I mean, I can go back 0:21:13.827 --> 0:21:16.347 three four hundred years you know, of struggle. But that's 0:21:16.387 --> 0:21:20.827 not uh this conversation. But it is important to note 0:21:20.867 --> 0:21:24.747 that to this day, we still have to show every 0:21:24.827 --> 0:21:27.347 single game you know, have you have your your Assuan 0:21:27.387 --> 0:21:31.707 Vudums and those guys, and you have your Chase in Kolby. 0:21:31.987 --> 0:21:35.147 They have to show every single game that they belong 0:21:35.267 --> 0:21:37.627 there or the medium will just adverbly rip into them. 0:21:38.267 --> 0:21:38.427 You know. 0:21:38.987 --> 0:21:41.747 So we still have this thing, and then people talked 0:21:41.787 --> 0:21:44.867 about thirty years ago we should forget about it. I 0:21:44.947 --> 0:21:47.027 think it is pretty a rich of people just to 0:21:47.107 --> 0:21:48.987 say that without knowing the history of the sport. 0:21:51.027 --> 0:21:53.907 Good points. Well, mate, Anthonay, So how long have you 0:21:53.987 --> 0:21:54.787 lived in New Zealand? 0:21:55.747 --> 0:21:58.507 Oh, best part of three years, you know. Uh And 0:21:58.667 --> 0:22:01.747 and and look, I come from from the non racial 0:22:01.867 --> 0:22:05.347 sporting fraternity, the old secos of fraternity, which is South 0:22:05.347 --> 0:22:08.547 African councilor on Sport. And you know, we had these 0:22:08.667 --> 0:22:11.307 kind of players like like Jesslad and those for players 0:22:11.347 --> 0:22:14.467 for decades or the only thing was that we could 0:22:14.507 --> 0:22:17.307 not represent the country of our birth and and and 0:22:17.427 --> 0:22:21.627 and so it's really really annoying. It's really frustrating, you know, 0:22:21.747 --> 0:22:25.027 like like like the medium, the majority of the media 0:22:25.227 --> 0:22:28.427 don't actually try to even talk to people who could 0:22:28.467 --> 0:22:30.707 come from from that era where we had all these 0:22:31.267 --> 0:22:33.587 players you know that could have easily walked into a 0:22:33.587 --> 0:22:34.307 Springbok team. 0:22:35.107 --> 0:22:35.227 Uh. 0:22:35.387 --> 0:22:37.547 And then of course the media also like trying to 0:22:37.627 --> 0:22:40.547 bash us for for with even everdation all black teams 0:22:40.547 --> 0:22:45.467 specifically or New Zealand team playing there that we still 0:22:45.467 --> 0:22:49.307 supporting in the New Zealanders. You know, I'm sure majority 0:22:49.387 --> 0:22:52.747 of US wants to move on, but the media and 0:22:52.867 --> 0:22:55.827 and and and a large majority of of of white 0:22:55.867 --> 0:22:58.507 son Africans do not allow us to move on. So 0:22:58.667 --> 0:23:00.627 I look, I don't blame those people at all. I 0:23:00.747 --> 0:23:03.907 give Rush all the credit that I uh that I 0:23:04.027 --> 0:23:08.587 can get a fantastic job into to see what what 0:23:08.747 --> 0:23:11.467 what our boys can do now. And I just look 0:23:11.507 --> 0:23:15.347 at the Common World Games, how well our people have 0:23:16.147 --> 0:23:19.827 have have done at the Common World Games. But it 0:23:19.987 --> 0:23:22.707 is just that that the specifically the wide meetings of 0:23:22.707 --> 0:23:24.827 every gay they need someone to hate. And I can 0:23:24.907 --> 0:23:28.347 tell you one thing, if someone like Sasha or Money 0:23:28.387 --> 0:23:32.107 Lobos do something wrong, you will hear about this forever. 0:23:31.947 --> 0:23:35.667 In a day interesting and sorrh Anthony, thanks for calling 0:23:35.747 --> 0:23:38.067 in mate. I hope you enjoy the series on the field, 0:23:38.107 --> 0:23:41.867 but thanks for giving us your thoughts. I'm really and yeah, 0:23:42.547 --> 0:23:45.227 eloquently I appreciate your call mate. Thanks to day Drive 0:23:45.307 --> 0:23:47.547 sive twelve thirty AH one hundred and eighty ten eighty 0:23:47.587 --> 0:23:48.987 back in the stake on Weekend Sport. 0:23:49.387 --> 0:23:53.147 Big calls Big Moments Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and 0:23:53.307 --> 0:23:56.267 the out e Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition from 0:23:56.347 --> 0:23:58.547 one thirty ninety News. 0:23:58.427 --> 0:24:00.787 Dogs they'd be twenty seven aiy from on Pontier. I 0:24:00.827 --> 0:24:03.227 thought there was a bit of a defensive response from 0:24:03.267 --> 0:24:05.347 Brendan Nell about the crowd at Cape Town, says Mike, 0:24:05.707 --> 0:24:07.227 saying that the few years ago it would have been 0:24:07.267 --> 0:24:09.827 fifteen and not the five that turned out. To me, 0:24:10.387 --> 0:24:13.347 that's his fear, fear of losing, looking for a scapegoat. 0:24:13.387 --> 0:24:15.867 Fun Times Ahead, says Mike. Yeah, love it, Mike, thanks, 0:24:15.947 --> 0:24:18.787 mighte appreciate it? Alan, you were there in ninety six. 0:24:20.187 --> 0:24:22.827 I was, indeed, I was lucky enough to be there. 0:24:23.987 --> 0:24:24.187 Yeah. 0:24:24.267 --> 0:24:26.867 There was a group of twenty of us, ten miles, 0:24:26.907 --> 0:24:29.987 ten females went on a private tour. We were part 0:24:30.027 --> 0:24:32.387 of a club that had equivalents over there, not a 0:24:32.467 --> 0:24:35.467 rugby club, a service club, and we had equivalents over 0:24:35.507 --> 0:24:38.027 there and they home hosted us. So we went to 0:24:38.227 --> 0:24:42.067 all the games and by enduring memories apart from the 0:24:42.147 --> 0:24:45.707 rugby which of course was fabulous apart from the last Test, 0:24:46.107 --> 0:24:49.907 but never mind, we won the series. But two of 0:24:49.987 --> 0:24:53.187 my enduring memories were the very first game we went 0:24:53.267 --> 0:24:56.107 to was against Bowland. I seem to recall it was 0:24:56.147 --> 0:24:59.267 a midweek game. We arrived there a bit late, and 0:24:59.587 --> 0:25:02.507 as such I didn't get to get a seat in 0:25:02.547 --> 0:25:05.147 the stand that was chocer block, so I watched it 0:25:05.307 --> 0:25:08.267 standing on the stea way up into the stand, and 0:25:08.347 --> 0:25:12.067 there was a colored boy standing beside me, and I 0:25:12.107 --> 0:25:15.227 don't think we spoke as such, but we both enjoyed 0:25:15.267 --> 0:25:19.987 the first half together. Then at halftime, he turned and 0:25:20.227 --> 0:25:23.387 looked up into the green stand at the seated people, 0:25:24.467 --> 0:25:29.747 and there were the off duty All Blacks, mainly Test players, 0:25:30.107 --> 0:25:32.907 sitting in a cluster up in the stand. And he 0:25:33.107 --> 0:25:37.107 looked and he said out loud to himself, but anybody 0:25:37.147 --> 0:25:40.667 who could hear him, I'm sorry it someday, but he said, 0:25:41.187 --> 0:25:48.747 Jesus Christ Jolna longel Jesus Christ Jolna lol, and with it, 0:25:49.547 --> 0:25:52.027 and with that I said to him, would you like 0:25:52.107 --> 0:25:54.827 to go up into the stand, Because apart I'd had 0:25:54.947 --> 0:25:58.587 finished technically, but it was still pretty strong in some ways. 0:25:59.067 --> 0:26:01.547 So the pair of us went up there together and 0:26:01.707 --> 0:26:04.787 although we didn't actually get to talk to the non 0:26:04.907 --> 0:26:07.747 playing all Blacks, he got so much closer than he 0:26:07.787 --> 0:26:10.267 could have reached out and touched them, and I think 0:26:10.347 --> 0:26:12.827 that made his day to be able to see John 0:26:12.867 --> 0:26:14.627 who Jonah up. 0:26:14.627 --> 0:26:18.467 Close and so real, amazing, amazing. 0:26:18.707 --> 0:26:23.307 But the other memory I have is one of on 0:26:23.467 --> 0:26:28.067 our flight from Port Elizabeth to Durban the midweek game 0:26:28.107 --> 0:26:31.027 and Port Elizabeth and the first test of the series, 0:26:32.587 --> 0:26:35.747 the second test actually, but the first test of the series. 0:26:36.107 --> 0:26:38.187 Who were flying to that and the plane had only 0:26:38.307 --> 0:26:41.627 just taken off and someone down the backs and Kiwis 0:26:41.667 --> 0:26:44.587 down the back sung the New Zealand National NA. Nothing 0:26:44.627 --> 0:26:46.867 to do with our group who was sort of towards 0:26:46.947 --> 0:26:50.267 the front of the plane. But the team leader said 0:26:50.267 --> 0:26:52.267 to me, you learned to do the harker, because I 0:26:52.347 --> 0:26:54.667 told everybody they had to learn the harker. But you're 0:26:54.707 --> 0:26:56.787 the only one who did get up and do the harker. 0:26:57.867 --> 0:27:00.507 I don't do the harker and the plane get up 0:27:00.547 --> 0:27:05.067 and do the harker, he said, so part we're all parts, 0:27:05.147 --> 0:27:08.547 and most moray cringe at my version of the harker. 0:27:08.587 --> 0:27:11.267 But anyway, I get up into the aisle of the plane, 0:27:11.507 --> 0:27:16.227 and I do this fault on Harker almost the standing 0:27:16.307 --> 0:27:19.867 ovation when I went to sit down, modesty preventually saying 0:27:19.947 --> 0:27:24.387 it was a full standing ovation. But anyway, I went 0:27:24.467 --> 0:27:27.467 to sit down, and a hostess came up behind me 0:27:27.827 --> 0:27:31.147 and very sternly tapped me on the shoulder, and I 0:27:31.307 --> 0:27:34.307 turned around to see her stern face and her finger 0:27:34.347 --> 0:27:38.147 wagging at me, and she said, listen, listen. They did 0:27:38.307 --> 0:27:41.107 not see that in business class. Would you go up 0:27:41.147 --> 0:27:42.347 there and do it again? 0:27:42.827 --> 0:27:46.867 Had? 0:27:48.467 --> 0:27:54.427 I said, listen, listen, I'm sorry, but there's only one 0:27:54.627 --> 0:27:59.267 Harker in me per day. I'm sorry. I could not 0:27:59.427 --> 0:28:04.867 do another one. So that in the Colored Boy two 0:28:04.947 --> 0:28:09.627 of my Enduring Rugby Memories of South Africa ninety six, 0:28:09.947 --> 0:28:11.987 and what a tour it was. You know, we were 0:28:12.067 --> 0:28:15.507 spot rotten. We were originally going to go in ninety five, 0:28:16.427 --> 0:28:20.187 but the organizer found it was becoming extremely difficult to 0:28:20.227 --> 0:28:23.827 get tickets and at what costs. So our South African 0:28:23.867 --> 0:28:27.947 connection said, look, don't come ninety five. Come ninety six. 0:28:28.067 --> 0:28:31.867 You'll be on your own. You'll be treated like God's 0:28:32.227 --> 0:28:35.787 being supporting the all blacks. Come then, and we'll really 0:28:35.827 --> 0:28:38.467 look after you. And it was the best decision we 0:28:38.587 --> 0:28:41.507 could have made. It was just the most fabulous tour. 0:28:42.027 --> 0:28:44.467 And you know, all the troubles in South Africa. I 0:28:44.707 --> 0:28:48.227 never saw so much as two people having an argument 0:28:48.507 --> 0:28:51.987 in the six weeks we were there. We were lucky, 0:28:52.147 --> 0:28:55.587 I guess, because everybody had a story to tell. All 0:28:55.667 --> 0:28:59.187 the South Africans had a story to tell about. Let's 0:28:59.227 --> 0:29:01.827 call it the troubles, almost like a Northern Ireland, but 0:29:01.947 --> 0:29:06.267 the troubles. And you go to a dinner party or whatever, 0:29:06.827 --> 0:29:10.547 and the South Africans would have had a brief before 0:29:10.587 --> 0:29:11.067 we arrive. 0:29:11.907 --> 0:29:13.267 We will not talk. 0:29:13.187 --> 0:29:16.387 About the problems. The kiwis are coming is going to 0:29:16.427 --> 0:29:19.187 be lighthearted. And that's how it was for about the 0:29:19.267 --> 0:29:22.827 first three minutes of any dinner pardy, but slowly but 0:29:22.947 --> 0:29:26.547 surely the conversation would get ground to the difficulties of 0:29:26.867 --> 0:29:29.387 living there at the time, and they were hopeful that 0:29:29.547 --> 0:29:34.387 things would improve. And I'm sure they have. And I 0:29:34.507 --> 0:29:36.267 said to our tour leader the other day, you know, 0:29:36.747 --> 0:29:38.547 we've missed a trick here. We should have been on 0:29:38.707 --> 0:29:43.547 this to thirty years to the day, virtually since we 0:29:43.667 --> 0:29:45.707 were there, and we should have gone again. 0:29:47.067 --> 0:29:51.787 So Ellen, Ellen, brilliant Thank you so much, mate. I 0:29:51.947 --> 0:29:56.387 just wish phones that had cameras had been around at 0:29:56.427 --> 0:30:00.947 the time to capture your hauker and both economy and 0:30:01.187 --> 0:30:04.107 business class mate, you could have dined out for years 0:30:04.627 --> 0:30:07.667 on that footage. But oh you told it so well, mate, brilliant. 0:30:08.027 --> 0:30:10.507 Thanks for calling in Allan. Hope you enjoy the month 0:30:10.547 --> 0:30:13.347 ahead even from the side of the world. Barry, you 0:30:13.467 --> 0:30:15.187 were there in ninety five for the World Cup. 0:30:16.027 --> 0:30:18.627 I was there in ninety five for the World Cup. Yeah, 0:30:18.707 --> 0:30:21.427 this group of us from the Keviedy case forty versuen 0:30:21.507 --> 0:30:24.747 over and we're there for a month and so we 0:30:24.867 --> 0:30:26.667 did basically the whole time. 0:30:27.987 --> 0:30:30.227 What was the enduring memory? What are you remember? I mean, 0:30:30.267 --> 0:30:33.867 obviously some fantastic games to fine or notwithstanding the were 0:30:33.907 --> 0:30:35.147 you at Ellis Park for the final? 0:30:35.907 --> 0:30:36.227 You were? 0:30:36.547 --> 0:30:38.547 Certainly We're at Allis Park in the final and the 0:30:38.667 --> 0:30:41.787 jam jam packed in that stand, which is it's just 0:30:41.907 --> 0:30:46.947 so steep and so imposing. With that plane that came over, 0:30:47.547 --> 0:30:49.707 no one could believe, you know, no one could believe 0:30:49.747 --> 0:30:52.307 what's happening. He was shown on the big screen. Is 0:30:52.387 --> 0:30:54.867 to get the plane coming. Knew it was coming, but 0:30:55.387 --> 0:30:58.347 never thought that they would sort of drop it into 0:30:58.387 --> 0:31:00.907 the stadium the way that they did, and as it 0:31:01.067 --> 0:31:03.347 roared out, it's just total silence. They were looking at 0:31:03.347 --> 0:31:06.747 themselves and what the hell was at And that came 0:31:06.827 --> 0:31:08.387 for a second time, and there's a big sure we 0:31:08.507 --> 0:31:11.347 all went up the second time and it went through. Yeah, 0:31:11.667 --> 0:31:13.867 that was the injuring memory of the final But my 0:31:14.827 --> 0:31:18.107 enduring memories a week before when we're in Cape Town 0:31:19.867 --> 0:31:22.467 with all those poems, so we're so confident what they 0:31:22.507 --> 0:31:24.867 were going to do to do the All Blacks that 0:31:25.027 --> 0:31:28.307 day and you know it's done and dusted in the 0:31:28.347 --> 0:31:29.147 first five minutes. 0:31:29.867 --> 0:31:31.827 Did you get a good view of Did you get 0:31:31.827 --> 0:31:33.507 a good view of Jonah running over the top of 0:31:33.627 --> 0:31:34.387 Mike Cat. 0:31:34.907 --> 0:31:36.627 It was right in front of us the keywi is 0:31:36.667 --> 0:31:38.787 there about I guess two or three hundred of us 0:31:38.867 --> 0:31:41.627 down in one corner And it was right in that 0:31:41.867 --> 0:31:44.747 corner that he scored the try And it was right 0:31:44.787 --> 0:31:49.627 in that corner Josh Cromfeld scored five minutes later, and yeah, yeah, 0:31:49.667 --> 0:31:51.307 we couldn't got a bit of you for the whole thing. 0:31:51.867 --> 0:31:52.507 Absolutely. 0:31:53.947 --> 0:31:56.587 And the other enduring memory is we actually got to 0:31:56.747 --> 0:32:00.147 got told takeout boots. I was one of the younger 0:32:00.227 --> 0:32:04.027 guys on that tour. I was in my mid forties 0:32:04.667 --> 0:32:05.867 and we paid. 0:32:06.627 --> 0:32:07.267 We played a game. 0:32:07.347 --> 0:32:09.387 It's for sure your first game I've ever played under 0:32:09.507 --> 0:32:13.667 lights and we played against the smoke called team that 0:32:13.747 --> 0:32:16.627 came out, So I think that's or playing the All Blacks. 0:32:17.507 --> 0:32:20.067 Our age would have been in the fifties. The are 0:32:20.067 --> 0:32:22.427 everage age was probably twenty three and under and twenty 0:32:22.507 --> 0:32:26.427 kgs and these came these guys came out. They really 0:32:26.507 --> 0:32:29.627 meant business and fortunately for us, the lights failed, so 0:32:29.747 --> 0:32:32.747 we hit the bar very quickly. They were frankly get 0:32:32.827 --> 0:32:33.867 the lights back on again. 0:32:33.947 --> 0:32:35.467 There's no way we were going to leave the bar. 0:32:36.107 --> 0:32:40.467 And so there was my debut game in South Africa 0:32:40.547 --> 0:32:40.867 as well. 0:32:41.507 --> 0:32:43.667 So when you say when you say the lights failed, 0:32:44.227 --> 0:32:46.147 it wasn't anything to do with one of your party 0:32:46.227 --> 0:32:49.067 sort of sneaking around the mack and unplugging the unplugging 0:32:49.147 --> 0:32:50.147 the lead by any chance. 0:32:51.147 --> 0:32:54.507 We weren't smart enough to do that, but we were 0:32:54.507 --> 0:32:56.547 smart enough to get out on the padict we had nowhere. 0:32:56.667 --> 0:32:58.267 We were smart enough to turn anything off. 0:32:58.947 --> 0:32:58.987 That. 0:32:59.627 --> 0:33:04.267 Yeah, it was a very special trip where it was 0:33:04.307 --> 0:33:08.427 were catered so well, it's a private trip back in 0:33:08.507 --> 0:33:11.227 the days of ninety We did in ninety nine as 0:33:11.267 --> 0:33:14.307 well for the UK when you could actually buy tickets, 0:33:14.347 --> 0:33:16.427 and then in two thousand and three it came the ballot, 0:33:16.547 --> 0:33:19.427 so you had difficulties in getting tickets and you had 0:33:19.427 --> 0:33:22.667 to use a big tour companies after that. Yeah, it's 0:33:22.787 --> 0:33:25.747 a private tour that we did. And one of the 0:33:25.787 --> 0:33:29.667 guys had a contact in South Africa in the travel 0:33:29.707 --> 0:33:33.307 industry and he's set up this magnet. Everything outside of 0:33:33.307 --> 0:33:35.627 the rugby was just so good as well, because you 0:33:35.707 --> 0:33:38.627 know he had your weekly games. But the other one 0:33:38.747 --> 0:33:40.627 that's defining on that one that a lot of people 0:33:40.787 --> 0:33:43.307 remember is that South Africa probably shouldn't. 0:33:42.947 --> 0:33:43.787 Have been in the final. 0:33:44.547 --> 0:33:47.987 He swear that the game in Durban with the well 0:33:48.027 --> 0:33:50.907 the woman was sweeping the pitch when it was absolutely 0:33:51.027 --> 0:33:53.867 pelting down with the rain that was flooded, the game 0:33:53.947 --> 0:33:57.427 got delayed by a couple of hours and the French 0:33:57.547 --> 0:34:01.587 number eight scored a clear try. Bevan was the referee 0:34:02.747 --> 0:34:06.547 didn't give it and was it lou late that them 0:34:06.587 --> 0:34:12.107 with the gold watch afterwards? Yes, yes, And that's truvusly 0:34:12.147 --> 0:34:14.907 because it was so clear to everyone in the stadium 0:34:14.947 --> 0:34:18.267 that got scored. But the only one didn't see it 0:34:18.347 --> 0:34:22.787 was was the referee. Yeah Shaw Deans and ninetyen oh five. 0:34:22.867 --> 0:34:25.227 I guess oh, I guess so very At least they 0:34:25.267 --> 0:34:28.307 gave you Allis Park and the memories from that day, 0:34:28.347 --> 0:34:30.587 even if they were slightly colored by the fact that 0:34:30.627 --> 0:34:33.427 we didn't win the game. Hey, thanks Barry, appreciate you 0:34:33.627 --> 0:34:36.867 calling some great stories from you as well. So pleased 0:34:36.867 --> 0:34:38.427 you were there to see Jonah run over the top 0:34:38.467 --> 0:34:40.867 of Mike Cat up close with all of those confident 0:34:40.947 --> 0:34:44.307 Englishmen soon becoming slightly less confident. Good to hear from you, mate. 0:34:44.387 --> 0:34:46.147 Six Steve away from one back in a second. 0:34:45.987 --> 0:34:49.227 Sport doesn't stomp at the full time Whistle Weekend Sports 0:34:49.307 --> 0:34:52.587 with Jason Vine and the oldi Q seven Dynamic Blank 0:34:52.667 --> 0:34:56.067 Runout edition. It includes thirty thousand dollars of premium upgrades. 0:34:56.267 --> 0:34:58.987 Call oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty news talks. 0:34:59.027 --> 0:35:03.707 They'd be thirteen away from one talking the spring box 0:35:03.907 --> 0:35:07.347 all blacks and being there. John were there in nineteen 0:35:07.587 --> 0:35:08.707 seventy six. 0:35:10.187 --> 0:35:13.827 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we were doing our oe and 0:35:13.987 --> 0:35:16.027 we were there was a group of us were in 0:35:16.187 --> 0:35:20.667 England and we decided to go down and do the 0:35:20.787 --> 0:35:23.707 tour of South Africa. I can't remember exactly, but it 0:35:23.787 --> 0:35:27.227 was twenty odd games and it was over three months 0:35:28.027 --> 0:35:32.027 the tour started, and I mean it's a little bit bigue, 0:35:32.067 --> 0:35:36.987 but the tour started mid to late June and finished 0:35:37.067 --> 0:35:42.507 around the twentieth of September. They played four test matches 0:35:42.587 --> 0:35:45.827 I think was as I said, twenty twenty two games overall, 0:35:46.627 --> 0:35:49.787 and we lost the series three to one. But I 0:35:49.907 --> 0:35:54.147 do remember quite vividly the last Test, which was in 0:35:54.307 --> 0:36:00.507 joe Burg, was we lost by one point and we'd 0:36:00.587 --> 0:36:02.947 been ahead until the last bit of it. But the 0:36:03.067 --> 0:36:06.787 South Africans at that time they haven't changed. You know, 0:36:06.907 --> 0:36:08.907 they were cheating then and they still cheat now. 0:36:09.547 --> 0:36:14.347 And the cheap fifty years have hurt for you mate. 0:36:15.267 --> 0:36:17.907 Well, at that time they were lifting in the line 0:36:17.947 --> 0:36:20.107 out and that was something that no one ever did, 0:36:20.707 --> 0:36:24.347 but they'd perfected it and the referees couldn't see it. 0:36:25.787 --> 0:36:28.107 But of course we had home referees then it was 0:36:28.707 --> 0:36:31.467 South African referees, so they were part of the training 0:36:31.587 --> 0:36:34.427 session and they watched them lift and do all that 0:36:34.507 --> 0:36:36.707 sort of thing. But it was a great tour. I mean, 0:36:36.827 --> 0:36:41.747 we had a fabulous time. We had midweek matches, amongst 0:36:41.827 --> 0:36:48.307 the supporters. We played in bare feet and we'd select 0:36:48.467 --> 0:36:53.707 teams North Island, South Island, Alphabetical teams, age teams, and 0:36:53.787 --> 0:36:57.627 every week we'd go to a different club in the 0:36:57.867 --> 0:37:00.907 area that we're at. We were hosted by them and 0:37:01.587 --> 0:37:05.547 we just had a fabulous time of supporters. It was marvelous. 0:37:05.587 --> 0:37:07.747 There was no in the tour. 0:37:08.427 --> 0:37:12.947 We just got together and as well meaning individuals and 0:37:13.187 --> 0:37:16.707 enjoyed the South African hospitality. We had a fabulous time 0:37:17.307 --> 0:37:20.387 and you couldn't get away with ten percent of what 0:37:20.547 --> 0:37:22.747 we did. Then you wouldn't get away with ten percent 0:37:22.787 --> 0:37:25.587 of it now. It was We called ourselves the New 0:37:25.627 --> 0:37:27.947 Zealand Paralytic Team, just to give you an idea of. 0:37:28.507 --> 0:37:29.827 And we had. 0:37:30.387 --> 0:37:33.787 We had all the all our clothing had a New 0:37:33.907 --> 0:37:38.067 Zealand fern on it was Paralytic Team seventy six underneath it. 0:37:39.387 --> 0:37:41.147 I hope you've kept it. I hope you've kept a 0:37:41.147 --> 0:37:43.307 couple of those polo shirts or whatever they were. John 0:37:44.267 --> 0:37:46.347 maybe similar to a previous caller. Probably quite a good 0:37:46.347 --> 0:37:50.067 thing that phones weren't around them with cameras. Sounds like 0:37:50.107 --> 0:37:51.347 I had a great time though. Were just looking at 0:37:51.387 --> 0:37:55.707 those test scores that that series so close the one 0:37:55.787 --> 0:37:58.347 you referenced at the end. There was the fifteen fourteen defeat, 0:37:59.387 --> 0:38:02.627 but the scores and the Test series South Africa sixteen 0:38:02.627 --> 0:38:06.987 to seven, the All Blacks fifteen nine, South Africa fifthfteen ten, 0:38:07.387 --> 0:38:10.947 and then the fifteen fourteen so all very close. Margins, 0:38:11.147 --> 0:38:12.867 glad you were there to be a witness, mate. Sounds 0:38:12.947 --> 0:38:15.107 like a great tour nine and a half away from one. 0:38:15.147 --> 0:38:15.827 Back in the moment. 0:38:16.747 --> 0:38:21.067 Analyzing the plays and getting the insight. Weekend Sport with 0:38:21.387 --> 0:38:23.387 Jason Vine News Talks NB. 0:38:23.747 --> 0:38:26.547 Text thro here that says reminded me that in nineteen 0:38:26.547 --> 0:38:29.187 seventy six Billy Bush played nine games in a row 0:38:29.267 --> 0:38:31.787 Saturday Wednesday, Saturday Wednesday. For nine games in a row, 0:38:32.027 --> 0:38:34.187 he must be in shocked that they need eight props 0:38:34.267 --> 0:38:37.107 now for seven games that Texas from if it's who, 0:38:37.267 --> 0:38:38.987 If it's from who, I think it is a fairly 0:38:39.067 --> 0:38:42.387 handy front rower himself. Thanks for the thanks for the text, 0:38:42.467 --> 0:38:44.267 you term, Hi, thanks for holding mate. 0:38:44.427 --> 0:38:45.347 Oh, I see no worries. 0:38:45.347 --> 0:38:46.067 You've been enjoying it. 0:38:46.747 --> 0:38:49.827 I just it's just a brief thing, but I think 0:38:49.867 --> 0:38:54.227 it's it's a big thing, and it's a theory. I 0:38:54.267 --> 0:38:57.427 don't know the population of South Africa. How many jokers 0:38:57.467 --> 0:39:01.587 are playing rugby, but I slay it's pretty big. But 0:39:01.747 --> 0:39:05.387 the big I thought this for years, that I reckon 0:39:05.467 --> 0:39:08.467 that the know know that the box is so strong 0:39:08.987 --> 0:39:14.227 because the depth of human specimens players. You think, it's 0:39:14.227 --> 0:39:17.307 a good point. It's not diluted to the best of 0:39:17.347 --> 0:39:21.667 my knowledge, by playing league, or certainly not as rules 0:39:21.707 --> 0:39:22.707 like Australia. 0:39:22.947 --> 0:39:23.827 I mean, but. 0:39:25.387 --> 0:39:28.067 Do they play league at all? I don't know. I've 0:39:28.067 --> 0:39:28.627 never heard of it. 0:39:29.467 --> 0:39:31.947 They do, Yeah, if they do it, it's be a 0:39:31.987 --> 0:39:34.587 small pocket term. And yeah, it's a great point mate, 0:39:34.627 --> 0:39:38.027 in terms of oval ball sport over there it's rugby 0:39:38.187 --> 0:39:40.027 and then daylight mate. 0:39:40.587 --> 0:39:43.467 Yeah, there you go. I think that's a huge, huge point, 0:39:43.547 --> 0:39:45.827 you know, and that you know they're not diluted you 0:39:46.667 --> 0:39:48.587 or how many of the warriors they would get into 0:39:48.627 --> 0:39:52.267 the into the all books. But yeah, I'm sure there's 0:39:52.307 --> 0:39:55.707 some good, some great players playing league. But you know, 0:39:55.907 --> 0:39:59.787 like I'm just repeating myself, But then look at Ossie, 0:39:59.827 --> 0:40:02.467 there's some great players. They're playing Aussie rules. Ye'd be 0:40:02.547 --> 0:40:04.987 like in the backs. But I just think it's you know, 0:40:05.347 --> 0:40:09.507 it's a brief point, but a good point, a. 0:40:09.587 --> 0:40:14.027 Very pertinent point. Yeah, it has to play into the 0:40:14.107 --> 0:40:17.187 hands of Rassi Erasthmus and for everybody involved in the 0:40:17.227 --> 0:40:21.347 South African rugby development system. Football is obviously big tim 0:40:21.427 --> 0:40:24.547 as I'm sure you know. But in terms of oval ball, yeah, 0:40:24.627 --> 0:40:27.627 it's rugby or nothing really, so they get all of 0:40:27.627 --> 0:40:31.227 those athletes who are who are built. Imagine of South 0:40:31.267 --> 0:40:34.867 African's did play league, says this text. Be amazing at it, 0:40:34.867 --> 0:40:38.507 wouldn't they? I appreciate you, called tim text to finish Kjason. 0:40:38.547 --> 0:40:41.347 I was a student living in a dormitory early sixties. 0:40:41.747 --> 0:40:45.427 We were strictly supervised, lights out, no visitors, no transistor radios, 0:40:45.667 --> 0:40:47.707 only at our three minutes on the only land line, 0:40:47.707 --> 0:40:49.947 et cetera. I was the only child of a Canterbury 0:40:50.027 --> 0:40:53.467 rugby fanatic who was horrified I was not able to 0:40:53.547 --> 0:40:56.387 listen to the ABS playing in South Africa, so my 0:40:56.547 --> 0:41:01.427 dad smuggled me in a very small transistor radio middle 0:41:01.467 --> 0:41:03.987 of the night. Twelve girls piled onto my bed and 0:41:04.027 --> 0:41:06.027 we listened to the game very quietly. 0:41:06.627 --> 0:41:07.307 Great text. 0:41:08.027 --> 0:41:10.147 Yah, that's the other thing about South African rugby, isn't 0:41:10.147 --> 0:41:12.547 it is? The you know, you think of the days 0:41:12.587 --> 0:41:15.187 gone by watching these games in the middle of the night, 0:41:15.267 --> 0:41:16.987 getting up at three in the morning to watch them. 0:41:17.307 --> 0:41:19.187 We'll get the opportunity to do that over the next 0:41:19.747 --> 0:41:22.107 month to six or eight weeks or so as well. 0:41:22.427 --> 0:41:24.027 Thanks for all your calls and all your texts. I 0:41:24.027 --> 0:41:25.747 haven't been able to get to anywhere near all of them. 0:41:26.027 --> 0:41:29.387 Appreciate them though very much after one up the wise. 0:41:30.747 --> 0:41:34.547 The only place for the big names, the big issues, 0:41:34.947 --> 0:41:38.547 the big controversies and the big conversations. 0:41:38.787 --> 0:41:40.627 It's all on Weekend Sports with. 0:41:40.947 --> 0:41:44.467 Jason Vine and the LDQ seven Dynamic Black Runout edition 0:41:44.627 --> 0:41:45.387 on Youth Talks. 0:41:45.427 --> 0:41:47.867 It'd be your home of sport one. 0:41:48.747 --> 0:41:50.587 Hello, this is Weekend Sport on News Talks. It'd be 0:41:50.627 --> 0:41:53.467 good to have you listening, and you've arrived if you 0:41:53.587 --> 0:41:55.827 have just arrived, and time to talk Warriors with us. 0:41:57.067 --> 0:42:00.107 Because off the back of defeat last week to the Bulldogs, 0:42:00.747 --> 0:42:03.467 and that off the back of a rather unconvincing when 0:42:03.507 --> 0:42:07.507 the previous week against the Dragons, wasn't it to sit 0:42:07.667 --> 0:42:11.667 down there yesterday afternoon around five ish and watch the 0:42:11.787 --> 0:42:15.707 Warriors go to work against the Titans on the Gold Coast, 0:42:15.827 --> 0:42:19.107 And didn't it look like a home game for the Warriors. 0:42:19.347 --> 0:42:21.027 So many kiwis on the Gold Coast as we know, 0:42:21.627 --> 0:42:24.707 and they were out in good numbers watching the demolition job. 0:42:25.227 --> 0:42:28.907 And we'll come to the lefts my dumm easy goes 0:42:29.027 --> 0:42:29.987 in for a double. 0:42:30.667 --> 0:42:36.387 Our second post half timer Tamar lay Marden filled them 0:42:36.667 --> 0:42:41.027 with a flamboyant dummy. They needed to bounce back the 0:42:41.147 --> 0:42:43.667 Warriors and they have in a big way. 0:42:44.627 --> 0:42:49.427 They're running eight tries to one. They've dominated the first. 0:42:49.267 --> 0:42:53.107 Half, were on the job in the second and built 0:42:53.587 --> 0:42:55.627 are forty two points to six. 0:42:56.227 --> 0:42:56.587 Routes. 0:42:56.787 --> 0:42:58.787 Yeah a route it was. I tries to won five 0:42:58.867 --> 0:43:02.427 of those tries in the first half. The Warriors third 0:43:02.667 --> 0:43:06.147 on the ladder. The Sharks can draw level with them 0:43:06.427 --> 0:43:08.547 today if they beat the Rabbit O's that games in 0:43:08.587 --> 0:43:11.267 a few hours. Jake thinks they will on text up 0:43:11.347 --> 0:43:13.867 up Crinulla, says Jake, Well, we'll see. I want to 0:43:13.867 --> 0:43:16.347 talk about the top four, top two, top eight situation 0:43:16.667 --> 0:43:18.547 in a moment, but let's get you across the Tasman 0:43:18.907 --> 0:43:22.227 where fullback chants Nicol Klukstar joins us from the airport. 0:43:22.267 --> 0:43:24.427 I think as the team prepares to fly home, chants 0:43:24.467 --> 0:43:27.867 congrats make great performance from you and the team. How 0:43:27.947 --> 0:43:30.387 did you approach the week after the disappointment of the 0:43:30.507 --> 0:43:32.267 loss of the Bulldogs a week ago. 0:43:33.587 --> 0:43:34.107 Yeah, it was. 0:43:35.787 --> 0:43:37.867 It was a simple Fox really. It was just getting 0:43:37.947 --> 0:43:40.787 back to what we knew works and what we've been 0:43:40.827 --> 0:43:44.267 doing the whole year. So for us, it was really 0:43:44.427 --> 0:43:48.707 making it as basic as possible and focusing on what 0:43:48.827 --> 0:43:49.307 we've been doing. 0:43:49.347 --> 0:43:49.547 Well. 0:43:49.827 --> 0:43:51.627 Well, you did a lot of things well last night. 0:43:51.667 --> 0:43:54.947 The forty two is impressive, but you restricted the Titans, 0:43:54.987 --> 0:43:57.427 who have scored thirty eight points in each of their 0:43:57.507 --> 0:44:00.267 last two games, to just one try. So how pleasing 0:44:00.467 --> 0:44:01.787 was the defensive side of things? 0:44:02.747 --> 0:44:02.947 Yeah? 0:44:03.027 --> 0:44:06.947 Really pleasing. There was a little mishappen first half where 0:44:06.947 --> 0:44:09.427 they did score their first try, but apart from that, 0:44:09.507 --> 0:44:11.427 I was really happy how we closed out the game. 0:44:11.467 --> 0:44:14.787 There there was a few opportunities where they attacked our 0:44:14.827 --> 0:44:17.027 line really well, and for us to be able to 0:44:17.147 --> 0:44:19.147 finish the game like that was a real highlight. 0:44:19.987 --> 0:44:22.387 Your first game back at fullback in a little while, 0:44:22.867 --> 0:44:25.387 how did it feel slipping back into that number one jersey? 0:44:26.547 --> 0:44:27.427 Yeah it felt good, Thank you. 0:44:27.667 --> 0:44:32.187 I was really pleased with how some of the things 0:44:32.507 --> 0:44:36.147 they do need to focus on a fullback felt like 0:44:36.387 --> 0:44:38.747 I had never left, and there's obviously a few things 0:44:38.787 --> 0:44:40.667 that I want to fix up. All in all, I 0:44:40.787 --> 0:44:44.507 was really happy with my first game back in a fallback. 0:44:45.147 --> 0:44:48.067 What are the big differences, you know, between playing fullback 0:44:48.147 --> 0:44:49.827 and filling some of the other roles on the back 0:44:49.907 --> 0:44:51.547 line as you have over the last little while. 0:44:53.067 --> 0:44:55.867 I would say your involvement was what the team's doing, 0:44:56.827 --> 0:45:01.747 and fullback you're probably looking at both sides of the 0:45:01.787 --> 0:45:04.427 footy in terms of attacking defense, and you actually have 0:45:04.547 --> 0:45:06.787 one of the best seats in the house. For me 0:45:06.867 --> 0:45:09.507 as a fallback, it's making sure that I can give 0:45:09.907 --> 0:45:12.107 information on the run to the boys so we can 0:45:12.187 --> 0:45:15.147 meet those adjustments if needed, and making sure that when 0:45:15.147 --> 0:45:18.307 I do chime in that my involvements are as positive 0:45:18.307 --> 0:45:22.507 as possible, and making sure that from a defensive point. 0:45:22.307 --> 0:45:28.587 Of view that whereas whereas yeah, as solid as possible. 0:45:29.067 --> 0:45:31.147 Well, after that game down in christ Church against the 0:45:31.187 --> 0:45:33.307 Cowboys on the wing when you scored four tries, did 0:45:33.347 --> 0:45:35.467 you think about a career change? And you know, I 0:45:35.947 --> 0:45:37.187 quite log it out here on the way. 0:45:37.907 --> 0:45:40.467 Nah, Nah, I didn't, I didn't. We have we have 0:45:40.627 --> 0:45:45.947 some we have some really elite wingers in our team. 0:45:46.067 --> 0:45:48.907 So for me to try and get in get in 0:45:48.987 --> 0:45:52.067 there with those boys and amongst the healthy squad, I 0:45:52.107 --> 0:45:55.747 thought or would be nearly impossible. So nah, there was 0:45:55.827 --> 0:45:59.387 no thought of changing positions at that stage. 0:46:00.267 --> 0:46:02.067 Well, one of those wingers, they fleshed up a stat 0:46:02.147 --> 0:46:06.747 last night after he scored Olafiana Camperira sixty six tries. 0:46:06.787 --> 0:46:09.027 He's got in sixty sixty NRL games. I like to 0:46:09.107 --> 0:46:11.667 do a double take. What makes them so prolific? 0:46:13.147 --> 0:46:15.027 Oh man, it's a speed, isn't it. 0:46:15.387 --> 0:46:17.587 It's something that you just can't teach, something that you 0:46:18.387 --> 0:46:21.667 can chain, but a lot of that type of speed 0:46:21.787 --> 0:46:24.707 you can't. So it's definitely a superpower. And when he 0:46:24.827 --> 0:46:28.947 gets into space, he's gone. So I like how he's 0:46:29.307 --> 0:46:32.147 he's finding where he can implement himself into the game. 0:46:32.227 --> 0:46:35.467 And we as a team, we've just got to build 0:46:35.547 --> 0:46:38.067 around a lot of the boys' superpowers and what they 0:46:38.147 --> 0:46:41.187 bring to a squad, and part of Loti's as a speed. 0:46:41.387 --> 0:46:43.587 Of course, he was playing against his former side last night, 0:46:43.867 --> 0:46:46.347 as was Aaron Clark. The you sense a lift from 0:46:46.907 --> 0:46:50.027 from you know, players when they play against their former side. 0:46:50.067 --> 0:46:51.747 Do you get that when you play against the Raiders, 0:46:51.787 --> 0:46:52.267 for example? 0:46:53.827 --> 0:46:53.987 Yes? 0:46:54.267 --> 0:46:54.827 No? Yes? 0:46:54.907 --> 0:46:55.067 Or no? 0:46:55.267 --> 0:46:57.787 I think maybe the first few times that you're playing 0:46:57.827 --> 0:47:00.307 your old team, it's a little bit like that. But 0:47:00.827 --> 0:47:02.627 once you get a few games under the bout against 0:47:02.667 --> 0:47:04.627 and it's it's sort of like just another game, isn't it. 0:47:05.787 --> 0:47:07.307 So yeah, I was really. 0:47:07.187 --> 0:47:10.547 Happy with how all our boys contributed, but especially the 0:47:10.587 --> 0:47:13.147 boys that were formerly at the Titans. 0:47:13.547 --> 0:47:15.507 And you welcomed a new member to the Warriors family 0:47:15.547 --> 0:47:18.587 as well, a daboo for Riley Price, he and Steve 0:47:18.667 --> 0:47:20.427 the first father and son to have played for the club. 0:47:20.467 --> 0:47:24.787 That's a call milestone. How do you acknowledge deboo's internally chance? 0:47:26.827 --> 0:47:27.027 Yeah? 0:47:27.067 --> 0:47:27.387 I love it. 0:47:27.427 --> 0:47:28.267 For their me, I was. 0:47:28.587 --> 0:47:32.467 I was so so over the moon and proud of Riley, 0:47:33.147 --> 0:47:35.667 like you said, for his father son duo. And he's 0:47:35.707 --> 0:47:38.787 only been a part of our squad for maybe a month, 0:47:39.107 --> 0:47:42.067 five six weeks at most, and he slotted and really well. 0:47:42.107 --> 0:47:42.507 I was real. 0:47:42.667 --> 0:47:45.627 I was really really happy for him when I when 0:47:45.627 --> 0:47:47.427 I noticed that he was on the field. 0:47:47.907 --> 0:47:50.187 Whenever you play on the Gold Coast, you get massive 0:47:50.547 --> 0:47:52.347 key we support, don't you. I mean you do everywhere 0:47:52.347 --> 0:47:54.747 in Australia, but particularly on the Gold Coast. How much 0:47:54.787 --> 0:47:56.547 do you hear and feel that key we support in 0:47:56.587 --> 0:47:57.467 a place like SeaBus. 0:47:58.347 --> 0:47:59.587 Yeah, massive, massive. 0:47:59.827 --> 0:48:01.907 Like I said yesterday after the game, they make us 0:48:01.907 --> 0:48:04.747 feel like it's our home game and they always turn up. 0:48:04.827 --> 0:48:07.587 So now we've got a really good ten everywhere we 0:48:07.707 --> 0:48:09.467 go really, not just on in Queensland. 0:48:09.507 --> 0:48:11.067 But yes, that's really nice to have. 0:48:11.387 --> 0:48:12.907 All right, And just to finish, I know you're just 0:48:13.667 --> 0:48:16.507 the day after the Titans game, but now attention turns 0:48:16.587 --> 0:48:20.067 to Penrith on Friday night. Top of the table man, 0:48:20.187 --> 0:48:22.387 I know fans are looking forward to it. Is there 0:48:22.427 --> 0:48:24.907 something a bit extra special about what lies ahead this 0:48:24.987 --> 0:48:26.547 week and on Friday night in front of it will 0:48:26.587 --> 0:48:27.507 be another packed house? 0:48:28.627 --> 0:48:32.227 Yeah, there is, you know, clean at the highest level, 0:48:32.267 --> 0:48:33.907 you want to play against the best in the comp 0:48:33.987 --> 0:48:39.867 and Penrith's been that for the last five, six, six years, 0:48:39.947 --> 0:48:41.507 so it's going to be a real good test for 0:48:41.667 --> 0:48:43.947 us as a team and the club and see where 0:48:43.947 --> 0:48:45.907 we're at, especially since the last time we played them. 0:48:46.307 --> 0:48:48.707 Congrats on the win yesterday. All the best for the week. 0:48:48.747 --> 0:48:50.587 Your head can't wait for Friday night against the Panthers. 0:48:50.627 --> 0:48:52.387 Thanks for taking the time for a chat, Chance. 0:48:52.947 --> 0:48:54.227 Thank you very much for you guys. 0:48:54.267 --> 0:48:55.507 Have a good rest of the week. 0:48:55.627 --> 0:48:57.307 Yeah, you have a good rest of your day too, mate, 0:48:57.307 --> 0:49:00.787 travel safe chance. Nicol kluksta out of the Warriors forty 0:49:00.827 --> 0:49:04.627 two six last night over the Titans. It's hard not 0:49:04.747 --> 0:49:08.227 to get excited, isn't about what lies ahead? On Friday 0:49:08.307 --> 0:49:11.227 night at Go Media Stadium, the Warriors are up to 0:49:11.307 --> 0:49:13.467 open the lines. Incidentally, oh eight hundred and eighty ten 0:49:13.507 --> 0:49:14.947 eighty anything you saw last night, you want to come 0:49:14.987 --> 0:49:17.467 in on the Warriors. So the Warriors are thirty two 0:49:17.547 --> 0:49:20.107 points from nineteen games. There are two points behind the 0:49:20.187 --> 0:49:23.187 Roosters and a further two points behind the Panther. So 0:49:23.267 --> 0:49:27.067 it goes Panthers thirty six, Roosters thirty four, Warriors thirty two. 0:49:27.267 --> 0:49:30.187 The Sharks have thirty but they've still got one game 0:49:30.427 --> 0:49:32.147 or they they still got to play today against the 0:49:32.187 --> 0:49:34.787 rabbit O's. So they win that, they move level with 0:49:34.867 --> 0:49:39.107 the Warriors and then the Dolphins on thirty points. Then 0:49:39.147 --> 0:49:40.947 you'd dropped down a couple of points to the Knights, 0:49:41.267 --> 0:49:43.667 the rabbit Os, the Bulldogs. That's the top eight at 0:49:43.747 --> 0:49:45.707 the moment with a couple of games. Still, the players, 0:49:45.747 --> 0:49:51.667 I say across the weekend, is this a top two sides? Still? 0:49:53.187 --> 0:49:55.667 I look at the games that are still to be played, 0:49:55.907 --> 0:49:59.507 and there's still a few twists and turns I reckon 0:49:59.547 --> 0:50:04.827 in this regular season. For example, the Roosters run in. 0:50:06.427 --> 0:50:08.907 Four of their last five games are against teams in 0:50:08.987 --> 0:50:12.267 the top eight, so they've got a bit of I mean, 0:50:12.467 --> 0:50:14.867 much as they're playing very well. They've won their last 0:50:15.147 --> 0:50:18.667 six games, the Roosters, they've still got to play the 0:50:18.707 --> 0:50:23.667 Bulldogs at home, the Panthers away, the Dolphins at home, 0:50:23.747 --> 0:50:25.627 and the Rabbit O's away. All four of those teams 0:50:25.667 --> 0:50:29.107 are currently inside the top eight. They've also got the Tigers, 0:50:29.467 --> 0:50:33.627 should win that, okay. By contrast, the Warriors, it's an 0:50:33.667 --> 0:50:37.947 interesting running the Panthers obviously Friday, then the Broncos away, 0:50:37.987 --> 0:50:39.987 the Rabbit O's at home, the Knights are sorry, the 0:50:40.027 --> 0:50:42.027 rabbit Is away, the Knights at home, the Sea Eagles 0:50:42.067 --> 0:50:44.947 at home. So three of their last five games the 0:50:45.027 --> 0:50:49.387 Warriors are against teams currently in the top eight. Yeah, 0:50:49.747 --> 0:50:52.427 I don't know. I mean, finishing the top four obviously 0:50:52.587 --> 0:50:55.147 is clearly important because you get that extra life in 0:50:55.187 --> 0:50:58.947 the finals. Format of the NRL Finals, of course, is 0:50:58.987 --> 0:51:01.627 that one plays four and two plays three in Week one. 0:51:02.227 --> 0:51:05.467 Winners of those two games go directly through to the 0:51:05.667 --> 0:51:08.787 semi finals. Effectively, they get a week off and the 0:51:08.907 --> 0:51:11.427 losers get that second chance and then host against the 0:51:11.427 --> 0:51:14.707 winners of five v. Eight sixty seven. But you're finishing 0:51:14.747 --> 0:51:17.227 the top Two's important because you get to host that game. 0:51:18.707 --> 0:51:20.947 The Warriors sat in the top two for a long time, 0:51:21.027 --> 0:51:24.907 didn't they and they could still be there. Last night 0:51:25.027 --> 0:51:28.987 was excellent. Needed needed that win last night with the 0:51:29.067 --> 0:51:31.747 Panthers in coming on Friday, and I then get picked 0:51:31.787 --> 0:51:33.587 up on just on Chance Nickel Klukstar before we go 0:51:33.627 --> 0:51:37.267 to the lines. There's a selection issue now for Andrew 0:51:37.307 --> 0:51:40.227 Webster Taine to old pick. He's been very good there. 0:51:40.467 --> 0:51:43.787 He's kept Chance nickel Klukstar out of the number one jersey. Effectively, 0:51:44.227 --> 0:51:46.107 Chances had to play a bunch of different positions. He's 0:51:46.107 --> 0:51:48.507 played on the wing, he's come off the interchange bench. 0:51:48.827 --> 0:51:50.907 The latest I saw during the week was that the 0:51:50.947 --> 0:51:53.787 foot injury that kept tained to Old Pikey out this 0:51:53.907 --> 0:51:57.227 week is a one to two week proposition, So I 0:51:57.267 --> 0:52:00.587 guess that means he could potentially be in contention to 0:52:00.667 --> 0:52:04.187 play the Panthers. But I thought Charles was excellent last 0:52:04.227 --> 0:52:06.707 night at fullback. As he just said, then you know 0:52:06.827 --> 0:52:09.467 he was. It all came back to him pretty quickly, 0:52:09.547 --> 0:52:12.067 as as you'd assume it would. He played a lot 0:52:12.067 --> 0:52:15.067 of fallback last year, so there's a selection issue, which 0:52:15.107 --> 0:52:16.587 is a nice one to have when you got guys 0:52:16.627 --> 0:52:20.267 out like well, you know Roger tu Vasaschek, Tanner Boy 0:52:20.347 --> 0:52:23.507 Jackson Ford. You know, these guys not available and others too, 0:52:23.667 --> 0:52:26.827 but nice to have some competition for places. Frank, you 0:52:26.867 --> 0:52:28.307 would have enjoyed that, no doubt. 0:52:29.707 --> 0:52:34.027 That was absolutely brilliant. I was looking for that sort 0:52:34.067 --> 0:52:39.427 of a game though, Piney many many few months ago. 0:52:39.587 --> 0:52:42.987 When they first started. I mentioned about one swallow doesn't 0:52:43.027 --> 0:52:47.227 make a summer, and I've been looking for a lot 0:52:47.347 --> 0:52:52.947 more swallows during the time that they've been playing. Where 0:52:52.987 --> 0:52:55.707 He's got so much talent from that new South Wales 0:52:55.867 --> 0:53:00.467 Cup team to form and have the depth to knit 0:53:00.587 --> 0:53:05.347 together a great unit. That great unit has been there 0:53:05.587 --> 0:53:11.427 or they're are, but not fully displayed until last night. 0:53:12.107 --> 0:53:16.507 It came together and it created I think fair in 0:53:16.747 --> 0:53:21.027 the hearts of the opposition. Another analogy I like to 0:53:21.147 --> 0:53:25.227 make is like a horse race. This performance will create 0:53:25.427 --> 0:53:29.867 this team confidence as well as the fanclop club confidence, 0:53:30.627 --> 0:53:34.227 which will give the momentum as we approach the home 0:53:34.307 --> 0:53:38.347 stretch where the Broncos, the rabbit Os, the Knights, the 0:53:38.467 --> 0:53:45.027 Sea Eagles are there for the picking. Also, hopefully, I 0:53:45.227 --> 0:53:49.147 think jackson Ford could be back for maybe the last 0:53:49.227 --> 0:53:56.707 couple of games, which will bolster our power in the forwards. Metcalf, 0:53:56.867 --> 0:53:59.307 I have a question of I would have liked to 0:53:59.387 --> 0:54:02.387 see him when we were looking so dominant last night, 0:54:03.227 --> 0:54:05.427 to bring him on, to say twenty minutes, to give 0:54:05.507 --> 0:54:07.547 him some of that game time. I know he's been 0:54:07.627 --> 0:54:11.027 playing very well in the in the Cup side, but 0:54:11.667 --> 0:54:14.667 just to get in that because I think like Harris 0:54:14.707 --> 0:54:17.587 de Vieda and Tmio Martin, I mean, they're playing brilliantly 0:54:17.627 --> 0:54:20.547 in the halves, but they could be They could get 0:54:20.627 --> 0:54:22.867 a nega, they could get an injury and met Carver 0:54:23.147 --> 0:54:27.947 with the perfect position to put him in. But anyway, 0:54:28.227 --> 0:54:29.587 are you still there, Pony, I'm. 0:54:29.467 --> 0:54:32.867 Not, Frank, No, I'm listening. I'm listening and nodding my head. Absolutely. No, 0:54:33.387 --> 0:54:36.307 I'm always always listening to your thoughts. Yeah, you're right 0:54:36.307 --> 0:54:38.907 about jackson Ford. I've just checked as you were talking. 0:54:38.987 --> 0:54:42.387 Then the latest information they say is the final rounds. 0:54:42.667 --> 0:54:45.667 That's a bit funny, yeah, but it feels to me, 0:54:45.987 --> 0:54:49.147 maybe maybe a couple of three weeks away, but I 0:54:49.227 --> 0:54:52.707 look at that team and and the forward pack Fisher, 0:54:52.787 --> 0:54:58.907 Harris Egan, Barnett, Capewell, Laban Clark, it just feels like 0:54:58.987 --> 0:55:02.187 a really consistent solid if they can all stay fit. 0:55:02.267 --> 0:55:04.347 And I've probably jinxed it, but it just feels like 0:55:04.427 --> 0:55:07.147 a good, solid bunch of forwards, doesn't it. With the 0:55:07.187 --> 0:55:09.547 guys coming off the bench to help out if we 0:55:09.627 --> 0:55:11.747 can keep people foot and Jackson Fords back into that 0:55:11.907 --> 0:55:12.627 Max who knows. 0:55:13.787 --> 0:55:16.987 And you've also got Halaesima yep, I mean what a 0:55:17.787 --> 0:55:22.707 ball breaker. He is absolutely good time what you can 0:55:22.787 --> 0:55:25.387 name any of these guys, They're all so good. And 0:55:25.787 --> 0:55:28.747 as I say that, they've finally come together and I 0:55:28.867 --> 0:55:31.507 think this is going to give them the confidence to 0:55:32.027 --> 0:55:35.307 know that they can do it. I mean the Titans 0:55:35.707 --> 0:55:38.907 they were no but they weren't easy beats. I mean, 0:55:39.747 --> 0:55:42.747 we just struggled to beat the Dragons, and then the 0:55:42.907 --> 0:55:47.507 Titans gave them a bloody or sorry of workover, and 0:55:47.587 --> 0:55:50.827 then it was looking like the Tiger. The Titans in 0:55:50.907 --> 0:55:55.467 their home ground, they were they were very strong, but hey, 0:55:55.587 --> 0:55:57.227 we just we just smashed them. 0:55:57.427 --> 0:55:58.227 And I loved it. 0:55:58.867 --> 0:56:01.427 I loved it, freak, I loved it too, and I 0:56:01.507 --> 0:56:03.427 love talking to you the day after games as well, 0:56:03.747 --> 0:56:06.107 so please keep ringing. Yeah, forty two six, it was 0:56:06.187 --> 0:56:08.507 a lot of fun to watch. Thanks for your call, mate. 0:56:09.027 --> 0:56:10.547 Fred's porting out to me. The Sharks have got a 0:56:10.627 --> 0:56:12.707 much easier runner than all the rest, and Fred, You're 0:56:12.787 --> 0:56:18.427 right they have. They play the rabbit Os today and 0:56:18.627 --> 0:56:21.627 then the sharks last five games are all against teams 0:56:21.627 --> 0:56:26.667 from outside the top eight currently Dragon's, Raiders, Titans, Eels, Storm. 0:56:27.027 --> 0:56:31.467 That's their running. It's pretty comfortable, isn't it. But well, 0:56:31.587 --> 0:56:33.867 as the NRL always shows us, you can never take 0:56:33.867 --> 0:56:37.747 anything for granted. Lyle, you got invited into the corporate area. Mate, 0:56:37.747 --> 0:56:39.187 you would have loved it up there. They would have 0:56:39.227 --> 0:56:41.427 loved you up there. Yesterday at SeaBus. 0:56:41.467 --> 0:56:44.267 Well no, I had paid for the ticket, but were 0:56:44.387 --> 0:56:48.187 meant the game with the made of minees unfortunately not 0:56:48.267 --> 0:56:50.627 going to be with us much longer. He couldn't make it, 0:56:50.747 --> 0:56:52.547 but a sun and the pile of his friends we 0:56:52.667 --> 0:56:56.307 all went. Yeah, it was a great atmosphere. Look, I'm 0:56:56.347 --> 0:57:00.067 going to be honest. The last team matches from the Titans, 0:57:00.147 --> 0:57:04.507 I expected better from them. Yesterday. Hopefully me Rabbits can 0:57:04.627 --> 0:57:06.747 do the Warriors a favor of the same the eon 0:57:06.827 --> 0:57:09.067 and beat the Sharks. But I don't see it happening. 0:57:09.867 --> 0:57:13.307 I don't really see the Roosters slipping up going into 0:57:13.347 --> 0:57:17.627 the finals, so I think they're probably on the chance 0:57:17.747 --> 0:57:21.107 the Warriors of finishing in the top two. Hopefully I'm wrong, 0:57:21.867 --> 0:57:24.267 But to put it in a nutshell, no, they played 0:57:24.307 --> 0:57:27.707 well yesterday, but they needed to. They could have got 0:57:27.787 --> 0:57:31.587 home by one point and as long as they played well, 0:57:31.747 --> 0:57:34.267 they needed to put a good performance on the paddock. 0:57:34.307 --> 0:57:35.907 They got home by obviously a lot more than that, 0:57:36.347 --> 0:57:38.347 and they put a good performance on the paddict. But 0:57:38.867 --> 0:57:41.747 the acid test will come this Friday. A lot of 0:57:41.827 --> 0:57:43.587 the supporter said to me, oh, we only lost the 0:57:43.627 --> 0:57:47.347 penrift by two points last time, but the penriift side 0:57:47.387 --> 0:57:49.467 they only lost too by two points, wasn't in the 0:57:49.547 --> 0:57:54.187 form the current penwift side was. Looks ranger things have happened. 0:57:54.307 --> 0:57:56.587 I mean, no one would have seen that cricket score 0:57:56.667 --> 0:57:59.987 that popped up on Thursday night in the NRL is 0:58:00.027 --> 0:58:04.307 a funny competition, but yeah, I think they to win it. 0:58:04.427 --> 0:58:07.227 They need to finish in the top two. Have definitely 0:58:07.307 --> 0:58:10.227 the two home semis. They may be able to do 0:58:10.307 --> 0:58:13.747 it from outside of there, but to win it, even 0:58:13.827 --> 0:58:16.227 on yesterday's performance, they're going to have to go another 0:58:16.307 --> 0:58:20.467 twenty five to thirty percent better. And also, although it 0:58:20.547 --> 0:58:22.347 didn't matter in the end because of the number of 0:58:22.467 --> 0:58:25.107 tries score, they have to have a goal kicker that 0:58:25.307 --> 0:58:29.787 kicks it less eighty percent. Because Clary kicks at about 0:58:29.907 --> 0:58:32.867 ninety five. You know, you've just going to be able 0:58:32.907 --> 0:58:37.067 to lift that much further. Or hear a rumor he's 0:58:37.107 --> 0:58:40.947 flogging them at training to put miles into the tank 0:58:41.187 --> 0:58:43.507 so they can use it, you know, when it comes 0:58:43.547 --> 0:58:47.307 to the semis. But it's a fine wine, fine line 0:58:47.347 --> 0:58:49.747 to walk that one loading them up at training and 0:58:50.267 --> 0:58:52.707 then expecting them to keep winning games. But you know, 0:58:53.547 --> 0:58:55.387 best of luck to them, hopefully they can do it. 0:58:55.987 --> 0:58:58.547 Yeah, good on your law leadge. Enjoyed yourself yesterday, mate. 0:58:58.627 --> 0:59:00.827 In regards to your to your mate as well and 0:59:00.987 --> 0:59:06.107 his family. Yeah, I'm looking at the table and I'm 0:59:06.107 --> 0:59:07.907 trying to find a way to get the Warriors into 0:59:07.907 --> 0:59:09.987 the top two. Just I'm having a look at this 0:59:10.107 --> 0:59:14.427 table and they're looking at the game's remaining So you 0:59:14.547 --> 0:59:17.227 feel like you want the Roosters to have a drop 0:59:17.307 --> 0:59:20.667 in form or the Panthers to have a drop in form. 0:59:21.667 --> 0:59:24.707 The Warriors still have to play the Panthers, so that's important. 0:59:24.787 --> 0:59:28.867 If the Warriors can beat the Panthers this week, and 0:59:28.947 --> 0:59:33.907 then who the Panthers got left roost I've got the Roosters, Storm, Bulldogs, Tigers. 0:59:33.987 --> 0:59:36.667 So yeah, that's not that tough. 0:59:38.787 --> 0:59:38.987 Yeah. 0:59:39.027 --> 0:59:40.427 Like I say, if I'm trying to find a way 0:59:40.427 --> 0:59:44.227 and I'm just thinking out loud here of getting the 0:59:44.267 --> 0:59:46.347 Warriors back into the top two, maybe the way to 0:59:46.427 --> 0:59:49.027 do that is for the Panthers to have a catastrophic 0:59:49.107 --> 0:59:52.187 dropping form or at least a dip loose to us, 0:59:52.867 --> 0:59:55.347 loose to the Roosters, and then maybe it's us and 0:59:55.387 --> 0:59:57.227 the Roosters of the top two. Like iause, I'm just 0:59:57.227 --> 0:59:59.827 trying to work this out in real time. So yeah, 0:59:59.947 --> 1:00:02.187 forgive me one twenty five, We'll take a break, come 1:00:02.267 --> 1:00:03.987 back before if your calls of eight hundred and eighty 1:00:04.067 --> 1:00:06.187 ten eighty to talk the Warriors from. 1:00:06.467 --> 1:00:10.067 In victories to baffling selections, it's all their game. On 1:00:10.307 --> 1:00:14.187 Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and the alti Q seven 1:00:14.307 --> 1:00:18.267 Dynamic Blank Runout Edition available whilst Dog's Last News Talks V. 1:00:18.827 --> 1:00:21.427 One, Duncan says, good, Jason, I reckon it's time on it. 1:00:21.507 --> 1:00:25.467 That's a different text, Duncan says. Aaron Clark looked great 1:00:25.507 --> 1:00:28.387 at a halfback as a ballplayer, setting up moves. Looked 1:00:28.427 --> 1:00:31.067 like it confused the defense of it. Andrew Webs was 1:00:31.067 --> 1:00:33.067 asked about that afterwards. You will never hear the end 1:00:33.107 --> 1:00:35.027 of it. A couple of kicks. Aaron Clark used to 1:00:35.067 --> 1:00:37.707 be a halfback. I don't think I knew that, but yeah, 1:00:37.787 --> 1:00:40.467 you're right Duncan. He did look good going into into 1:00:40.547 --> 1:00:43.627 that position on occasion. Jamie, Hi, mate, thanks for holding. 1:00:44.507 --> 1:00:45.347 No worries, Jason. 1:00:45.747 --> 1:00:46.627 He just said that. 1:00:46.787 --> 1:00:50.547 I just listening to that interview with Chans and he's 1:00:50.587 --> 1:00:53.467 sort of they'll be working on the training. Was getting 1:00:53.507 --> 1:00:56.467 back to the basics and all that mets. Yeah, I 1:00:56.547 --> 1:00:58.707 sort of held over the last few weeks the Warriors 1:00:58.747 --> 1:01:01.747 didn't they have the quite the attacking mojo, but I 1:01:01.827 --> 1:01:04.947 think that's sort of maybe been rediscovered last night in 1:01:05.907 --> 1:01:06.587 What the Hell with That? 1:01:06.707 --> 1:01:07.707 As well, I thought was. 1:01:09.667 --> 1:01:13.107 We've got the benefit of the refs calling the six agains, 1:01:13.147 --> 1:01:14.947 which I don't think they've been doing over the last 1:01:14.987 --> 1:01:18.787 few weeks which enabled the forwards to give that roll 1:01:18.907 --> 1:01:23.147 on and and then for the backs to do their things. Yeah. 1:01:23.627 --> 1:01:25.827 I think there had been some question marks over the attack, 1:01:25.867 --> 1:01:28.747 hadn't they, Jamie. You know, you only score six against 1:01:28.747 --> 1:01:31.067 the Bulldogs. I mean bull Dog's good defensive side. But 1:01:31.187 --> 1:01:33.787 even the twenty twelve went over the Dragons at home, 1:01:34.267 --> 1:01:37.667 it wasn't as though the fluidity was necessarily there. But yeah, 1:01:37.707 --> 1:01:39.507 if that was what they were working on, going back 1:01:39.547 --> 1:01:44.747 to basics and it led to that yesterday, then more 1:01:44.827 --> 1:01:46.907 of it, I say, stick to the basics of that's 1:01:46.947 --> 1:01:47.707 what the result is. 1:01:48.627 --> 1:01:48.827 Yeah. 1:01:49.267 --> 1:01:51.507 And in terms of the rest of the season. To 1:01:51.587 --> 1:01:53.747 finish in the top two, we might have to win 1:01:54.907 --> 1:01:57.547 all of our remaining games. But I mean even if 1:01:57.587 --> 1:01:59.747 we win, even if we just went and say that 1:01:59.947 --> 1:02:02.067 most of them three like three or four, then then 1:02:02.107 --> 1:02:04.827 we should still be still being the top four at least, 1:02:04.867 --> 1:02:06.827 which you know, which we'll take with and ends. 1:02:07.347 --> 1:02:10.307 Absolutely. Yeah, I think you're right, Jamie. If you and 1:02:10.387 --> 1:02:13.347 I had been chatting back in February March and we'd said, okay, 1:02:13.427 --> 1:02:15.547 we'll be top four, we would have taken it, wouldn't we. 1:02:15.627 --> 1:02:19.267 You know, you know, a guaranteed home final at least 1:02:19.267 --> 1:02:22.067 in the second week if if that's the case, and 1:02:22.667 --> 1:02:26.547 two lives in the playoffs. Yeah, I think you're right mate, Panthers, Broncos, 1:02:26.627 --> 1:02:30.187 rabbit Os, Knights, c Eagles, I think yeah, four ones 1:02:30.227 --> 1:02:32.587 out of five there and I think you'd almost certainly 1:02:32.667 --> 1:02:36.227 be in the four. Yeah, yeah, good on your mate, 1:02:36.267 --> 1:02:38.387 Thanks for calling us. Always good chatting to you. Look 1:02:38.427 --> 1:02:40.867 forward to the back end of the season. Eight hundred 1:02:40.867 --> 1:02:42.587 and eighty ten eighty as always as our number mark. 1:02:42.667 --> 1:02:46.267 Hey hey FINALI yeah, I was just thinking it's quite 1:02:46.347 --> 1:02:48.827 unusual in sport where the final has sort of played 1:02:49.067 --> 1:02:53.987 at a neutral stadium, you know, like most most sporting 1:02:54.067 --> 1:02:56.747 events in New Zealand and Australia, you know, the top 1:02:56.787 --> 1:02:58.987 team usually hosts a final. I don't they, So it's 1:02:59.067 --> 1:03:00.427 quite unusual in that regard. 1:03:00.947 --> 1:03:03.467 Yeah, I think AFL, the AFL, the finals always at 1:03:03.507 --> 1:03:05.947 the g in the AFL. But you're right, yeah, like 1:03:06.067 --> 1:03:09.227 in I look at the A League Super Rugby. Yeah 1:03:09.467 --> 1:03:13.307 it's it's obviously it doesn't doesn't help the Warriors if 1:03:13.347 --> 1:03:16.227 they ever get to, you know, to a Grand final again, 1:03:16.267 --> 1:03:17.387 it's always going to be over there. 1:03:17.427 --> 1:03:19.387 But yeah, look it's I guess that is what it is, 1:03:20.187 --> 1:03:22.907 and I guess on there we're based with that. Even 1:03:22.947 --> 1:03:25.227 if we finished second, you know, we're still going to 1:03:25.547 --> 1:03:28.547 go and play over there in the final. So to me, 1:03:28.907 --> 1:03:30.547 it's going to be a hell of a game next week. 1:03:30.627 --> 1:03:33.067 I mean, Penrith came out last night and sort of 1:03:33.107 --> 1:03:36.627 went answered the Warriors game with a smashing of the Raiders, 1:03:36.667 --> 1:03:40.307 who are an actually quite good form as well. I thought, so, yeah, 1:03:40.387 --> 1:03:42.107 it's going to be probably the game of the season 1:03:42.187 --> 1:03:44.627 because last time the Warriors met they obviously didn't have 1:03:45.627 --> 1:03:49.107 three of the top stars on the side. I'm not 1:03:49.187 --> 1:03:51.667 going to give way any coaching advice, believe it or not, 1:03:51.787 --> 1:03:55.107 but I quite like Chance at fullback. I think he 1:03:55.147 --> 1:03:57.227 had a great game and I think they look I mean, 1:03:57.267 --> 1:04:00.347 I know til Picky has you know, being pretty good, 1:04:00.387 --> 1:04:02.947 but he's he's really quite lightweight, you know, bringing that 1:04:03.067 --> 1:04:06.667 ball back with the back three. You know, Camperiers speed, 1:04:07.187 --> 1:04:09.547 Dellan's sort of got the bulk in the sort of 1:04:10.147 --> 1:04:12.227 speed to bring that ball back, and I think that's 1:04:12.307 --> 1:04:16.267 quite important, especially in big games, to have their ability. 1:04:16.347 --> 1:04:18.987 And you know, when Tippicky gets tackled a lot of 1:04:19.027 --> 1:04:20.707 the time, he's going backwards, you. 1:04:20.747 --> 1:04:21.187 Know what I mean. 1:04:21.747 --> 1:04:24.907 Yeah, Yeah, he's gutsy though, isn't he gutsy is all 1:04:24.987 --> 1:04:27.507 hat and yeah, you're right, he's not the biggest guy, 1:04:28.227 --> 1:04:30.707 but he's he's got a ton of courage and clearly 1:04:30.827 --> 1:04:34.187 I mean Wheb, he clearly likes him because even when 1:04:34.347 --> 1:04:37.307 you know Chance has been available, he's he's stuck with 1:04:37.387 --> 1:04:40.347 Taine a fallback, and that, I guess makes me think 1:04:40.827 --> 1:04:43.707 Mark that Weber's a bit like, you know, don't change 1:04:43.747 --> 1:04:45.667 a winning team kind of mentality. So I get the 1:04:45.707 --> 1:04:48.347 feeling Chance will play against the Panthers even if even 1:04:48.387 --> 1:04:50.947 if Tan to a Picky is available on Friday. I 1:04:51.027 --> 1:04:52.947 reckon Chance will start at fall back again because he 1:04:52.987 --> 1:04:54.947 did yesterday and played really well there. As you say, 1:04:55.067 --> 1:04:56.467 I reckon he'll stick with it. 1:04:57.547 --> 1:04:57.747 Yeah. 1:04:57.747 --> 1:05:00.867 I like the idea of what Rassi does with his 1:05:01.027 --> 1:05:04.027 bomb squad, but playing impact players, you know, if you 1:05:04.107 --> 1:05:06.827 brought to a Picky on sort of like you know, 1:05:07.027 --> 1:05:08.907 ten minutes to go in the second half or like 1:05:09.027 --> 1:05:11.787 twenty minutes to go in the game. He's got speed, 1:05:12.027 --> 1:05:15.307 which you know can really make a difference with tiring players. 1:05:15.707 --> 1:05:18.187 And he's very similar as well. He he comes on 1:05:18.347 --> 1:05:21.587 to me, he's a superstar as well. Then he's coming 1:05:21.627 --> 1:05:23.947 off the bench and probably you know, he is being 1:05:24.027 --> 1:05:26.747 injected into the game. And as one of your other 1:05:26.827 --> 1:05:29.507 callers said, you know, getting Metcalf back in the game, 1:05:29.787 --> 1:05:32.987 I think might be important because you know, there's got 1:05:33.067 --> 1:05:36.227 to be injuries between now and the finals probably, so 1:05:36.707 --> 1:05:38.627 it's just a matter of where that happens. And I 1:05:38.747 --> 1:05:41.987 think having another half to come in, you know, even 1:05:42.027 --> 1:05:44.467 if our six seven nine get injured, it'd be quite 1:05:44.507 --> 1:05:47.307 good to have Metcalf up to the Narl sort of 1:05:47.347 --> 1:05:49.787 standard to be able to go in because for me, 1:05:50.787 --> 1:05:53.067 it's sort of a weird one with a Metcalf because 1:05:53.107 --> 1:05:56.427 he was such a good player and then he got 1:05:56.507 --> 1:06:01.547 injured and as the injury really sort of hampered his ability. 1:06:01.707 --> 1:06:04.187 Or is it because I mean he was probably one 1:06:04.227 --> 1:06:07.627 of the best number sevens in the competition when without he. 1:06:07.707 --> 1:06:09.507 Was the best last year when he went out. Yeah, 1:06:09.507 --> 1:06:11.467 he was leading the Dally M not just the best 1:06:11.867 --> 1:06:14.507 half back, the best player. He came back to early 1:06:14.867 --> 1:06:17.347 this season, I'm almost certain of that. They brought him back. 1:06:17.547 --> 1:06:19.507 They were talking about round six or seven. He came 1:06:19.547 --> 1:06:22.267 back in round four and then he pulled his hammy 1:06:22.307 --> 1:06:23.987 in round five and was out and then the whole 1:06:24.747 --> 1:06:27.627 moving away thing happened, so that can't be discounted in 1:06:27.707 --> 1:06:30.547 this whole thing. I've been wrestling with the whole Luke 1:06:30.627 --> 1:06:33.107 Metcalf thing for a long time. Mark, you know, I 1:06:33.987 --> 1:06:37.507 and I you know, and I absolutely admire Andrew Webster 1:06:37.547 --> 1:06:40.907 sticking with to Mighty Martin. But I just think Luke Metcalf, 1:06:41.027 --> 1:06:44.427 while he is a warrior, could still add something. And 1:06:44.587 --> 1:06:46.987 he kicks goals, which is the other part of this 1:06:47.507 --> 1:06:49.947 which is important too. So yeah, let's see what he does. 1:06:50.027 --> 1:06:52.827 Good to chat Mark, thanks mate. Tak Tuopiki are very 1:06:52.947 --> 1:06:55.347 rarely used off the interchange bench. In fact, I think 1:06:55.427 --> 1:06:59.147 only once this season. He's had lots of starts at fullback, 1:06:59.227 --> 1:07:01.307 but I think only once this season has he been 1:07:01.427 --> 1:07:04.627 used in an interchange role. So it feels like it's 1:07:04.667 --> 1:07:06.587 either a start for him or he does and get 1:07:06.627 --> 1:07:08.387 on the field. Paul, how are you, mate? How are 1:07:08.387 --> 1:07:10.347 you feeling good? 1:07:10.387 --> 1:07:12.827 I finy, Yeah, I'm feeling I'm feeling good. It was 1:07:13.107 --> 1:07:15.507 it was a good win. It isn't a good when 1:07:15.547 --> 1:07:17.987 we when we're talking about whether the Worry is going 1:07:18.067 --> 1:07:19.307 to be in the top two or not. 1:07:19.987 --> 1:07:23.147 You know, yeah, we're disappointed if they they might only 1:07:23.227 --> 1:07:24.907 be top four. Yeah, I know what you mean. 1:07:25.107 --> 1:07:28.707 Yeah, so that's a good, good place to be. And 1:07:28.747 --> 1:07:33.587 we've got three home games left, two away games, so 1:07:33.987 --> 1:07:38.027 I mean, to be honest, I'm still not convinced of 1:07:38.147 --> 1:07:40.587 where they're at going by the last two games. You know, 1:07:40.627 --> 1:07:42.987 the Dragons in the game last night. You know, let's 1:07:43.027 --> 1:07:45.587 face it, you know the Titans. They're a good team, 1:07:45.707 --> 1:07:48.747 but you know they're not a top eight team. So 1:07:48.867 --> 1:07:51.867 we'll find out this week. And you know, we all 1:07:51.947 --> 1:07:54.307 know that that Glass game, the Panthers beat. 1:07:54.227 --> 1:07:55.147 Us by two points. 1:07:55.507 --> 1:07:57.427 A lot of the commentators are saying, and I agree, 1:07:57.467 --> 1:07:58.787 we were a bit of team on the day, so 1:07:58.867 --> 1:08:00.307 we can absolutely beat them at home. 1:08:01.107 --> 1:08:05.547 So yeah, a couple of selection things, Paul, what would 1:08:05.627 --> 1:08:08.787 you do at full back? Or what do you think 1:08:08.827 --> 1:08:10.387 he will do? Do you think it'll stick? He'll stick 1:08:10.387 --> 1:08:12.627 with chance there, even though Tane's been his man for 1:08:12.787 --> 1:08:14.987 most of the last two or three months. 1:08:16.467 --> 1:08:20.227 Pence, how how long Taine's out for back two backs? 1:08:20.267 --> 1:08:20.387 Soon? 1:08:20.467 --> 1:08:22.627 I think you'll bring Tames straight back. And the other 1:08:22.707 --> 1:08:24.827 one was I heard that Rocco Berry was brought in 1:08:25.347 --> 1:08:30.427 to start in the centers and Pompey and Leota will 1:08:30.427 --> 1:08:34.987 both drop. But I think hearing Pompey, sorry Rocco Berry 1:08:35.067 --> 1:08:38.587 stun as hemmy and the poor guy can't can't catch 1:08:38.627 --> 1:08:43.267 your brain. Yeah, so obviously went in there. Cleka Halima 1:08:43.307 --> 1:08:45.587 is not a center, There's no doubt about that. He's 1:08:45.627 --> 1:08:49.227 a back rower. So yeah, I'm not sure what they 1:08:49.307 --> 1:08:52.427 do there. You bring back Pompy Breck and I wouldn't 1:08:52.427 --> 1:08:55.467 be surprised. But this this week's game is going to 1:08:55.507 --> 1:08:57.347 be massive. But I just can't wait to spend the 1:08:57.427 --> 1:09:00.227 day down there at go Media Stadium and the Panthers 1:09:00.227 --> 1:09:02.267 are rolling and it's going to be epic made. And 1:09:02.747 --> 1:09:05.707 you know, I've got I've got full confidence the boys 1:09:05.707 --> 1:09:08.267 can beat the pants is at home this weekend. So 1:09:09.347 --> 1:09:10.347 we'll see how we go. 1:09:10.467 --> 1:09:10.667 Mate. 1:09:11.227 --> 1:09:13.667 Our only issue, Paul Is, is only Sunday. We've got 1:09:13.707 --> 1:09:15.747 to get to Friday somehow, mate, How are we going 1:09:15.787 --> 1:09:17.147 to get screwed that week? I know what you mean, 1:09:17.187 --> 1:09:19.427 because I can't wait for Friday to arrive and I'm 1:09:19.467 --> 1:09:20.667 not even going to be there. I'm going to be 1:09:20.707 --> 1:09:22.227 sort of you know, I'll feel like a cat on 1:09:22.267 --> 1:09:24.507 hot and roof for most of the week. But yeah, 1:09:24.747 --> 1:09:26.387 it should be just what Actually, while I've got your 1:09:26.427 --> 1:09:28.547 one more thing on Luke Metcalf, have you got a 1:09:28.627 --> 1:09:32.147 view on on whether or not he should be used 1:09:32.187 --> 1:09:34.907 at some point in the next couple of months. 1:09:36.147 --> 1:09:36.827 I think so. 1:09:37.067 --> 1:09:40.947 I it's interesting because we've got about six five or 1:09:40.987 --> 1:09:44.747 six games left. You never know what can happen. You know, 1:09:44.827 --> 1:09:47.747 Tomight he could go get a hamstring, an injury could occur. 1:09:47.947 --> 1:09:51.587 So I think he's just wait where he's just keeping them, 1:09:52.027 --> 1:09:53.907 you know, on the on the bench to see what happens. 1:09:53.987 --> 1:09:56.307 But you know, we've got a million dollars apparently sitting 1:09:56.387 --> 1:09:59.067 on the bench there, so you know, he should be playing. 1:10:00.187 --> 1:10:03.187 And if and if there was a replacement, i'd replace 1:10:03.267 --> 1:10:08.227 Channell with was Luke Metcalf? H Yeah, but mine you should. 1:10:08.227 --> 1:10:10.027 I had to have a good game yesterday, so it's 1:10:10.067 --> 1:10:11.867 a tough one, mate, but a good problem to. 1:10:11.907 --> 1:10:14.667 Have, very good problem to have. Good on you, Paul, Hey, 1:10:14.827 --> 1:10:17.987 good luck getting through the week, mate, Enjoy Friday. Hopefully 1:10:17.987 --> 1:10:21.107 we can chat next Saturday about another terrific Warriors win. 1:10:21.267 --> 1:10:22.587 Good to hear from you, Hey, Mark. 1:10:23.787 --> 1:10:27.147 Hey, here you go, mate, good thank you. Hey, Just 1:10:27.227 --> 1:10:30.747 on the fullback and half situation. Just from the point 1:10:30.787 --> 1:10:33.907 of your lead thing, they'll probably from what I can understand, 1:10:33.947 --> 1:10:37.427 they'll probably go tain just because of his creative nature. 1:10:37.507 --> 1:10:39.107 And they always say, you know, when. 1:10:39.027 --> 1:10:42.147 You're playing top fourteen, what it really comes down to 1:10:42.307 --> 1:10:45.187 is being able to create something when the defense is 1:10:45.267 --> 1:10:49.027 so strong, and I think that's probably his advantage over chance. 1:10:50.907 --> 1:10:54.787 Yeah, it's a good point. And clearly, as I just 1:10:54.827 --> 1:10:57.187 said before, Andrew Webster likes him. He's had the opportunity 1:10:57.267 --> 1:11:00.307 to play, he's had them both foot for large parts 1:11:00.307 --> 1:11:02.747 of the season. He's gone with Tayane, so you'd expect 1:11:02.787 --> 1:11:04.387 them to go back to that of Taine's foot even 1:11:04.427 --> 1:11:05.427 for this coming Friday. 1:11:06.427 --> 1:11:09.187 I think if he if he's at if he's really 1:11:09.467 --> 1:11:11.947 you know, play at one hundred percent, they'll go with him. 1:11:12.467 --> 1:11:14.147 But I think there's a chance that he. 1:11:14.187 --> 1:11:16.867 Doesn't play this week just because they want to be sure. 1:11:17.107 --> 1:11:20.267 You know, the last thing you want is to aggravate 1:11:20.307 --> 1:11:24.587 an injury. Just on their halfs are currently got if 1:11:24.627 --> 1:11:28.747 you look at like the defensive nature of what they do, 1:11:29.907 --> 1:11:33.147 even in that Bulldogs game when they basically all didn't 1:11:33.147 --> 1:11:36.227 really step up the tackling that was made by some 1:11:36.347 --> 1:11:39.947 of the halves in that game really kept the scoreline 1:11:39.947 --> 1:11:43.467 from blowing out. And I've noticed the kicking game of 1:11:43.667 --> 1:11:45.827 the current halves in the last four or five weeks. 1:11:46.267 --> 1:11:48.627 If you look at where we leave the ball at 1:11:48.627 --> 1:11:50.867 the end of a set, a lot of it's within 1:11:50.947 --> 1:11:54.067 the twenty, if not in the ten. When they first 1:11:54.347 --> 1:11:56.947 got the roles, they couldn't even do that, So they've 1:11:57.067 --> 1:12:01.467 really made great strides. So I can't see Metcalf playing 1:12:01.707 --> 1:12:07.587 again for the Warriors and this and something really happens. 1:12:08.747 --> 1:12:12.107 Thanks Mark, Yeah, great points. Well, mate, Yeah, I get 1:12:12.147 --> 1:12:12.467 the feeling. 1:12:12.507 --> 1:12:12.827 You're right. 1:12:12.907 --> 1:12:16.747 I think it'll be Martin and and Harris Tavita unless 1:12:16.747 --> 1:12:19.147 there's an injury. Still, nice to have Luke Metcalf there, 1:12:19.147 --> 1:12:21.187 and I wonder whether he does have a role to play. 1:12:21.227 --> 1:12:22.987 Thanks for calling mate, twenty to two. It's like a 1:12:23.107 --> 1:12:24.747 right come back with James mcconey. 1:12:24.947 --> 1:12:27.227 Call it how you see Us on eight hundred and 1:12:27.267 --> 1:12:30.987 eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Vahine and the 1:12:31.107 --> 1:12:34.667 Audi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout Edition available at your 1:12:34.707 --> 1:12:35.907 local Audi dealership. 1:12:36.107 --> 1:12:39.747 News Talks, HEADB, News Talks, HEADB and Weekend Sport. James 1:12:39.867 --> 1:12:42.787 mcconey as always is with us on a Sunday up 1:12:42.947 --> 1:12:46.187 in Glasgow covering the Commonwealth Games as part of Sky 1:12:46.307 --> 1:12:48.187 Sports coverage. Good to chat to he has always James, 1:12:48.267 --> 1:12:51.907 How good was Eliza McCartney's gold in the women's pole vault. 1:12:52.427 --> 1:12:56.307 Well, it's it's just incredible the perseverance shown, right, And 1:12:57.267 --> 1:13:00.467 this is this is somebody who every time I see her, 1:13:00.667 --> 1:13:06.067 she's you know, battling in Achilles injury and I mean 1:13:06.147 --> 1:13:09.307 she's still the Achilles is still a problem, but she's 1:13:09.427 --> 1:13:11.867 just learned to manage it and it has come back 1:13:11.907 --> 1:13:15.107 and just been world class. And she's just a class 1:13:15.187 --> 1:13:19.427 act anyway. You know, she's getting fluenced in today or mahldy, 1:13:20.587 --> 1:13:24.867 she's just a ray of sunshine and so and also 1:13:25.227 --> 1:13:30.307 not only a hero to Imogen Heiris, but her mentor 1:13:30.387 --> 1:13:35.107 as well. Now so and I'm sure Olivia mctaggett feels 1:13:35.147 --> 1:13:37.907 the same way. So hard luck for Live missing out 1:13:38.027 --> 1:13:41.267 because she is a really top performer as well. But 1:13:41.787 --> 1:13:45.867 just seeing Liza do that with with image in there 1:13:46.187 --> 1:13:50.907 just shows that in terms of what our strongest event is, 1:13:50.987 --> 1:13:54.027 it probably is right up there women's pullbot. 1:13:54.187 --> 1:13:56.867 Absolutely yeah, So a golden a bronze there and then 1:13:56.907 --> 1:14:01.147 a silver for Tory Morby in the in the women's javelin. 1:14:01.587 --> 1:14:03.267 Had the chance to do a couple of events with 1:14:03.387 --> 1:14:07.427 Tory Morby. What an impressive since she is, but great 1:14:07.467 --> 1:14:09.187 to see her on the podium as well with silver 1:14:09.267 --> 1:14:10.187 and the women's javelin. 1:14:11.347 --> 1:14:13.987 It's just so great because she she dabbled with leaving 1:14:14.387 --> 1:14:18.427 she's toying with leaving javelin last year she wanted to. 1:14:18.587 --> 1:14:22.387 She played cricket last summer. She was playing for the 1:14:23.427 --> 1:14:27.427 Northern Brave and women's team and the I think was 1:14:27.507 --> 1:14:29.267 the b team there for a while, but they were 1:14:29.387 --> 1:14:31.947 really hopeful that she's going to stick it it. Obviously 1:14:31.987 --> 1:14:36.147 could bowl very very fast and throw very far from 1:14:36.187 --> 1:14:39.107 the boundary, so you know there were certain things, you know, 1:14:39.147 --> 1:14:41.907 they were just liking the way that she was making 1:14:41.947 --> 1:14:44.987 those strides. But then she sort of managed to find 1:14:45.027 --> 1:14:50.787 her way back throwing the javelin and falling in love 1:14:50.827 --> 1:14:53.547 with it again. So good on it for doing it, 1:14:53.667 --> 1:14:57.307 and you know, seeing her success and that of Zoe 1:14:57.427 --> 1:15:03.227 Hobbs who's from Stratford and Taranaki of course Tories from 1:15:03.787 --> 1:15:06.427 Gore down in Southland, it does remind me of you 1:15:06.547 --> 1:15:10.187 know that song by journey. Don't stop believing. You know, yep, 1:15:10.787 --> 1:15:14.747 just a small town girl and so you know, living 1:15:14.747 --> 1:15:17.387 in a loney world and then just basically catching them 1:15:17.427 --> 1:15:19.427 in night train. But you know the one thing that 1:15:19.587 --> 1:15:22.707 they don't do, Piney, they don't stop believing. 1:15:22.987 --> 1:15:25.867 Okay, there is the secret to it all. Don't stop 1:15:25.947 --> 1:15:30.027 believing small town boys and girls. Anything is possible. Hey, 1:15:30.307 --> 1:15:32.747 we've heard the Australian national anthem far too many times, 1:15:32.787 --> 1:15:34.147 but we're not going to hear it the net ball. 1:15:34.507 --> 1:15:35.947 Jamaica beat them in the semis. 1:15:37.267 --> 1:15:40.227 Yeah, I know, jamaking me crazy. That is just one 1:15:40.307 --> 1:15:44.827 of those things. If I heard the Jamaican fans singing 1:15:46.267 --> 1:15:50.947 no Jamaica, No Party, and I was going, that's quite 1:15:50.987 --> 1:15:55.747 good from them. And look the Silm fans are in 1:15:56.067 --> 1:15:59.227 with a great shot. I think Grace and Wiki is 1:15:59.707 --> 1:16:03.947 just an incredible goal shooter. And you know, as long 1:16:03.987 --> 1:16:05.987 as she's out there on the court, I think the 1:16:06.347 --> 1:16:09.067 New Zealand's got a good chance for gold. So it's 1:16:09.107 --> 1:16:13.347 pretty cool to see. And look the Aussies. Last time 1:16:13.347 --> 1:16:15.787 I saw on the middle table that was fifty nine gold, 1:16:15.947 --> 1:16:17.547 So you know they've done all right. 1:16:17.947 --> 1:16:18.227 They have. 1:16:18.747 --> 1:16:21.787 As the curtain comes down on the Glasgow event. It's 1:16:21.827 --> 1:16:24.427 been shortened of course, and that was because of the 1:16:24.427 --> 1:16:27.707 short time frame that Glasgow had to organize it after 1:16:28.427 --> 1:16:31.307 Victoria or Melbourne pulled out. What sense do you get, 1:16:31.387 --> 1:16:34.387 James about the future of this event of the Commonwealth Games. 1:16:35.787 --> 1:16:39.387 I think it's I think it's been revised nicely. It's 1:16:39.467 --> 1:16:41.987 been trimmed down. I think there's probably because of the 1:16:42.067 --> 1:16:44.987 short notice they couldn't. You know, you can see there's 1:16:44.987 --> 1:16:49.387 a lack of outdoor sports, so I think a Lenox 1:16:49.627 --> 1:16:51.307 felt like it was the only thing that was on 1:16:51.507 --> 1:16:56.467 outdoors and I think they could probably add a few 1:16:56.547 --> 1:16:58.987 back in. I think triathlon needs to come back in 1:16:59.227 --> 1:17:01.947 and some of the distance events, so I'd like to 1:17:01.987 --> 1:17:05.707 see that happen. I think the next edition is going 1:17:05.787 --> 1:17:07.707 to be an Indian. I think New Zealand could actually 1:17:07.787 --> 1:17:10.787 host the Commonwealth Games. They'd have to share it around 1:17:10.827 --> 1:17:14.627 a bit, but it's definitely doable. You know, we've got 1:17:15.027 --> 1:17:19.147 we've got a valodrome, we've got that there's there's a 1:17:19.227 --> 1:17:21.867 couple of pools that could be used or expanded and 1:17:22.627 --> 1:17:25.707 really it's just the price of working out where to 1:17:25.787 --> 1:17:29.787 have the athletics right. But I think there's enough big 1:17:29.907 --> 1:17:32.907 venues in New Zealand. If I'm happy to let a 1:17:33.067 --> 1:17:35.867 country host that, I think New Zealand should put a 1:17:35.907 --> 1:17:38.507 bit in that. That's my feeling, and the Comonwealth Games 1:17:38.947 --> 1:17:41.627 at the size it is at the moment is possibly 1:17:41.667 --> 1:17:42.227 about right. 1:17:42.387 --> 1:17:45.147 Yeah, I totally agree, and I hope that that that 1:17:45.267 --> 1:17:48.707 that has investigated the ability of a country to host 1:17:48.747 --> 1:17:51.227 the Commonwealth Games. And yeah, I think New Zealand should 1:17:51.227 --> 1:17:53.427 definitely get their their hat in that ring. A couple 1:17:53.467 --> 1:17:54.787 of other matters I wanted to get your thoughts on. 1:17:54.867 --> 1:17:59.107 You're following the Gianni Infantino FIFA saga. 1:18:00.387 --> 1:18:02.507 Yeah, I mean, I don't know how I feel about 1:18:02.587 --> 1:18:05.547 Johnny and Fantino because when you look at previous and 1:18:05.627 --> 1:18:09.307 then set black, Infantino is a massive upgrade. You know, 1:18:10.827 --> 1:18:14.547 he wasn't there for those those terrible years of just 1:18:14.827 --> 1:18:21.587 blatant corruption and by all those different he called them delegates, 1:18:21.667 --> 1:18:24.227 but they were terrible. You know, you chuck Blazers and 1:18:24.947 --> 1:18:27.227 I forget the guy from Trinidad. You'll remember his. 1:18:27.347 --> 1:18:29.627 Name, Jack Warner, was it? 1:18:30.387 --> 1:18:34.987 That's right? Warner? Like, he basically built an entire high 1:18:35.067 --> 1:18:39.467 performance football academy. But he is funny enough. He owned 1:18:39.467 --> 1:18:42.747 the land that it was on, so it became his. 1:18:43.267 --> 1:18:45.987 And so look, this is the whole thing with FIFA. 1:18:46.307 --> 1:18:51.827 Infantino years clumsy. His relationship with Trump is regrettable, and 1:18:52.347 --> 1:18:55.707 giving a peace prize to Trump is just absolute madness. 1:18:56.227 --> 1:19:01.507 But at the same time, this thing is all about commerce. 1:19:01.587 --> 1:19:06.227 He wanted to privatize or sell sell off some of 1:19:06.267 --> 1:19:09.667 the World Cup and look, maybe they need to find 1:19:09.707 --> 1:19:13.227 a way to inject more money into the game because 1:19:14.307 --> 1:19:18.147 like most those or most of those organizations, world rugby 1:19:18.227 --> 1:19:20.387 is the same. The World Cup is everything. That's where 1:19:20.427 --> 1:19:24.507 the money comes from, and they've got huge expenses covering 1:19:24.587 --> 1:19:27.947 everything else. So look, he's going to back down. I 1:19:27.947 --> 1:19:30.587 don't know if there'll be a coup, but let's just 1:19:30.667 --> 1:19:36.467 hope that the next person is less weird than in Fantina. 1:19:36.707 --> 1:19:39.147 Yeah, let's hope. So that's quite a low Barber, So 1:19:40.427 --> 1:19:43.187 we'll see what happens. I always good to chet to you, James, 1:19:43.307 --> 1:19:45.347 loving your coverage as part of Sky's coverage of the 1:19:45.587 --> 1:19:48.507 of the Commonwealth Games. Go well for the rest of it, mate, 1:19:48.587 --> 1:19:51.067 and look forward to catching up at around about the 1:19:51.067 --> 1:19:55.227 same time next week. Nine Away from too News talks 1:19:56.307 --> 1:19:56.907 when there's a. 1:19:56.987 --> 1:19:58.667 Mind call, it's your call. 1:19:59.107 --> 1:20:04.187 Weekend Sport with Jason Fine News TALKSB News. 1:20:04.027 --> 1:20:07.107 Talks six to two. Couple of its corresponds just to 1:20:07.587 --> 1:20:11.747 mop up dinoyes. They should call it the Aussie Wealth Games. Yeah, 1:20:12.107 --> 1:20:15.147 they should, also, says, do make Australia compete at States, 1:20:15.627 --> 1:20:18.147 New South Wales, Queensland, Victoria, et cetera, to make it fair. 1:20:18.627 --> 1:20:20.547 They'd probably still Win't too easy for them. Yeah, they 1:20:20.587 --> 1:20:23.467 do seem to be monstering the Games, don't they. Piney. 1:20:23.547 --> 1:20:27.387 I think New Zealand has already submitted for hosting the 1:20:27.427 --> 1:20:30.587 twenty thirty four Commonwealth Games. I know that they had 1:20:30.667 --> 1:20:34.667 expressed an early interest. I seem to remember we had 1:20:34.747 --> 1:20:39.867 somebody on talking about this in ZC lodged and Expression 1:20:40.027 --> 1:20:44.667 of interest. A Metabad is host of the twenty thirty 1:20:45.307 --> 1:20:51.347 Commonwealth Games. Formal discussions and detailed proposal timelines from the 1:20:51.827 --> 1:20:55.707 Commonwealth Games Organization anticipated to begin towards the end of 1:20:55.747 --> 1:21:00.467 twenty twenty seven or early twenty twenty eight. So we 1:21:00.547 --> 1:21:03.467 should just give it a crack. We'll talk about this 1:21:03.547 --> 1:21:05.387 another day. There's not enough time today, but we should 1:21:05.387 --> 1:21:08.267 give it a crack, especially if there is the ability 1:21:08.387 --> 1:21:11.627 to host it in more than one place, you know, 1:21:11.787 --> 1:21:14.707 move it around a bit. And I'm not talking about 1:21:14.707 --> 1:21:18.107 a truck hated games like this one, a full Commonwealth 1:21:18.187 --> 1:21:23.467 Games like nineteen ninety, you know, like Birmingham twenty twenty two. 1:21:23.947 --> 1:21:27.107 This one is short because it had to be. But yeah, anyway, 1:21:27.147 --> 1:21:29.107 we can talk about that another day. Write that down, Andy, 1:21:29.387 --> 1:21:32.907 Let's talk about Commonwealth Games hosting twenty and thirty four 1:21:33.307 --> 1:21:36.267 at some stage in our future. Just before we get 1:21:36.307 --> 1:21:39.667 to the news. The Warriors love talking about the Warriors, 1:21:39.707 --> 1:21:42.467 especially when they play like they did yesterday. You could 1:21:42.507 --> 1:21:45.467 be seeing out the rest of this NRL season in 1:21:45.547 --> 1:21:48.867 a brand new one New Zealand Warriors jersey. 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At two Auckland 1:22:24.787 --> 1:22:27.787 FC have a brand new coach, got big shoes to fill. 1:22:28.027 --> 1:22:30.627 Steve Corricker of course the coach of Auckland FC for 1:22:30.707 --> 1:22:33.987 the first two seasons of their life A League Premiers 1:22:34.027 --> 1:22:38.067 and Season one A League Champions last year. So the 1:22:38.187 --> 1:22:42.827 man to fill those boots is Pedro Modada confirmed as 1:22:42.867 --> 1:22:44.947 their new coach. During the week he's going to join 1:22:45.027 --> 1:22:45.987 us for a yar and after two. 1:22:47.387 --> 1:22:50.627 The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on 1:22:50.947 --> 1:22:55.147 on head off the field, better store enough. It's all 1:22:55.227 --> 1:22:59.107 on Weekend Sport with Jason and the Udiq seven Dynamic 1:22:59.147 --> 1:23:03.867 Black Runout edition on news Talks MB, your home of Sport. 1:23:04.667 --> 1:23:06.867 Two I six Welcome into Weekend Sport. Welcome back to 1:23:06.907 --> 1:23:10.347 Weekend Sport. We can collect of after three with Tim Beveridge. 1:23:10.987 --> 1:23:12.867 Before we get there, I want to preview tonight's gold 1:23:12.907 --> 1:23:16.027 medal match in the netball. The Silver Ferns with a 1:23:16.107 --> 1:23:19.147 chance to break a sixteen year gold medal drafts at 1:23:19.187 --> 1:23:22.787 the Calm Games. They take on Jamaica in the finals tonight. 1:23:22.787 --> 1:23:25.787 A few people have asked me when Center pass is 1:23:25.827 --> 1:23:29.707 at midnight Tonight's New Zealand time midnights, so it'll be 1:23:29.707 --> 1:23:31.667 a late one can either push on or maybe you 1:23:31.667 --> 1:23:34.227 get a couple of hours kipping Evon willerin going to 1:23:34.267 --> 1:23:36.507 preview that game for us this out. Marcus Daniel, one 1:23:36.547 --> 1:23:39.707 of our best ever tennis players, has moved into a 1:23:39.827 --> 1:23:42.587 really interesting area posters playing career. I want to hear 1:23:42.627 --> 1:23:46.067 more about that. Pedro Modeda, new coach of Auckland FC, 1:23:46.187 --> 1:23:47.947 on the show this hour as well, and we'll keep 1:23:47.987 --> 1:23:52.747 eyes on the MPC Northland against mont Or two about 1:23:52.747 --> 1:23:54.307 to kick off, or may have kicked off already. We'll 1:23:54.387 --> 1:23:55.947 keep eyes on that for you. Oh, eight hundred and 1:23:55.947 --> 1:23:57.707 eighty ten eighty and number nine two nine two. The 1:23:57.787 --> 1:24:00.547 text line get in touch whenever you're like seven past two. 1:24:00.707 --> 1:24:03.067 Let's keep you across though, or get you across a 1:24:03.107 --> 1:24:05.187 couple of the things that have happened in the last 1:24:05.227 --> 1:24:07.627 little while that you may have missed in the midst 1:24:07.667 --> 1:24:10.827 of doing everything else in your very busy life. In 1:24:11.027 --> 1:24:14.427 case you missed it, we've heard all about the Warriors. 1:24:14.907 --> 1:24:17.787 Also in the NRL, the Penrith Panthers back to dominance. 1:24:18.547 --> 1:24:21.227 It could be the matchic the right. The Raiders have 1:24:21.387 --> 1:24:25.867 to hang on panthers with you Clary double pup the game. 1:24:25.987 --> 1:24:29.587 So the one take it to night. What a first 1:24:29.907 --> 1:24:30.587 for Peglot. 1:24:31.667 --> 1:24:35.507 Yeah, they ran all over the Camber Raiders forty two eighteen. Meantime, 1:24:35.627 --> 1:24:41.347 Andy McDonald's Newcastle Knights demolishing the Broncos chipkick welsh Man. 1:24:41.827 --> 1:24:44.627 Oh the bounce Snuggert didn't get there on the floor. 1:24:45.107 --> 1:24:50.067 Now look out, shut start away, He's gonna scarf. I'd 1:24:50.107 --> 1:24:53.587 stick on the cake for the Newcastle Knights. Whit are 1:24:53.667 --> 1:24:55.147 shark never in doubt. 1:24:56.467 --> 1:24:59.667 This is a stirring went for the Newcastle Knights by 1:24:59.867 --> 1:25:02.507 thirty points to six to the Calm Games. Another track 1:25:02.547 --> 1:25:04.027 and field medal for New Zealand. 1:25:04.227 --> 1:25:08.587 But it's Morby and so but needs better than sixty 1:25:08.667 --> 1:25:13.387 one eighty eight to launch into gold finals row for 1:25:13.587 --> 1:25:14.347 Tory Morby. 1:25:15.427 --> 1:25:16.907 Can she turn it into gold? 1:25:17.227 --> 1:25:21.627 No she cannot, But it's a silver celebration for Morby. 1:25:21.787 --> 1:25:24.267 Yeah, brilliant from Tory Morby, a silver Togo with Alish 1:25:24.307 --> 1:25:27.187 Andrews bronze and our women's para time trial gold in 1:25:27.227 --> 1:25:31.107 the velodrome. So our Glasgow Metal talley continues to climb 1:25:31.627 --> 1:25:33.867 the Blues women have taken home the Spoils. On the 1:25:33.987 --> 1:25:37.587 Super Rugby Champions Final our basin. 1:25:37.867 --> 1:25:42.507 Bumping off Tea Hines around the corner comes Rus the captain. 1:25:42.707 --> 1:25:49.867 She reaches out and scores the try, the Blues landing 1:25:49.947 --> 1:25:52.787 a hammer blow here in the Champions. 1:25:52.387 --> 1:25:54.667 Final, Yeah they bet the Wartas twenty four to seventeen 1:25:54.747 --> 1:25:57.707 in Sydney and in the NPC, Taranaki picking up a 1:25:57.747 --> 1:25:59.027 winning pookakoe to the. 1:25:59.067 --> 1:26:06.547 Boot find space. It bounces, Sam CARKU has it, Sam Cark. 1:26:06.387 --> 1:26:07.467 He's got to score a try. 1:26:08.347 --> 1:26:13.307 One of the most unlikely ways, the bounce of the ball. 1:26:14.467 --> 1:26:17.787 It's frozen the Steelers. I went over the Steelers by 1:26:17.827 --> 1:26:21.907 twenty points to five. Otago upset Stagg Day proceedings and 1:26:22.027 --> 1:26:22.947 in the cargo. 1:26:22.987 --> 1:26:27.947 Power from Otago irving one of the replacements thought about 1:26:28.027 --> 1:26:30.787 throwing it, held it against the lamb that comes to 1:26:30.907 --> 1:26:34.267 Miller cloats the pass over the top turned the Nina 1:26:34.387 --> 1:26:38.667 keywoll unselfishly flick it out to Christian leo' willie. 1:26:38.347 --> 1:26:41.427 Who will score his second try. Otago Big One is 1:26:41.427 --> 1:26:44.387 forty one fourteen and Richie Moonga has made his New 1:26:44.467 --> 1:26:48.147 Zealand rugby return in a match winning shift for Canterbury 1:26:48.267 --> 1:26:49.027 against Auckland. 1:26:49.147 --> 1:26:53.067 The arms out from Paul Williams, Wonga in there, got it, 1:26:53.227 --> 1:26:56.027 darts his way through, ripped him on. 1:26:59.627 --> 1:26:59.827 Well. 1:26:59.867 --> 1:27:02.267 He might have missed the conversion to go in front, 1:27:02.307 --> 1:27:04.667 but he's called the try that's given him the league. 1:27:06.427 --> 1:27:08.227 You a long wait to get it back, but it's 1:27:08.267 --> 1:27:10.987 been worth it. A category fans are thinking right. 1:27:10.947 --> 1:27:15.587 Now here One Madison Sports Weekend Sports with Jason Vine 1:27:15.747 --> 1:27:19.467 and the Audiqwo seven Dynamic Black Runout Edition available at 1:27:19.507 --> 1:27:20.827 your local Audi dealership. 1:27:21.067 --> 1:27:24.507 News Talks V coming up eleven past two. Auckland FC 1:27:24.627 --> 1:27:27.787 this week announced their new head coach for the upcoming 1:27:27.867 --> 1:27:32.027 A League men's football season. Pedro Modeta arrives after a 1:27:32.107 --> 1:27:36.107 recent stint in Uzbekistan. He's also worked as an assistant 1:27:36.187 --> 1:27:40.787 coach at FC Porto Shakta Denetsk and as Roma. Pedro 1:27:41.027 --> 1:27:44.787 Modator is with us. Congratulations on the role, Pedro, and welcome. 1:27:45.347 --> 1:27:47.587 What was it about Auckland FC that convinced you this 1:27:47.827 --> 1:27:50.027 was the right opportunity for you at this time of 1:27:50.107 --> 1:27:51.147 your coaching career. 1:27:51.787 --> 1:27:54.387 Hello to everyone. It's a pleasure to be here. It's 1:27:54.427 --> 1:27:57.027 a pleasure to be on the country. On the club, 1:27:57.187 --> 1:28:00.427 on a great club like Auckland FC. It's really an 1:28:00.467 --> 1:28:04.227 amazing challenge for me and to understand the possibility to 1:28:04.267 --> 1:28:07.867 play in a Hay league, to be on the greatest 1:28:07.907 --> 1:28:11.187 club in New Zealand. I'm really really happy with with 1:28:12.627 --> 1:28:16.467 such a challenge, important challenge like this and I'm very 1:28:16.627 --> 1:28:17.907 I'm very happy to be here. 1:28:18.907 --> 1:28:21.027 It was it was really, it was really dead. 1:28:21.227 --> 1:28:25.307 When when when the chance appears, I really study everything 1:28:25.387 --> 1:28:28.907 around the team, around the squad. Of course, we as 1:28:28.947 --> 1:28:31.827 a manager study study everything to be possible to have 1:28:31.907 --> 1:28:33.747 an interview of a meeting with with them. 1:28:33.787 --> 1:28:36.027 I start I started this process. 1:28:35.707 --> 1:28:39.507 A few years ago with with a relation with Black 1:28:39.547 --> 1:28:44.467 Knight group or understanding why where my kind of game 1:28:44.507 --> 1:28:46.467 and the way that I play as as a coach, 1:28:46.507 --> 1:28:48.467 and I passed the patents that have passed to my 1:28:48.667 --> 1:28:50.747 to my teams, the way that we that we demand, 1:28:50.867 --> 1:28:52.947 the demands that we create on the game. I share 1:28:52.987 --> 1:28:56.987 that with them and I don't even I don't even 1:28:57.227 --> 1:29:00.347 and I don't even have the idea that could be 1:29:00.427 --> 1:29:04.147 possible in the future of such a possibility so far 1:29:04.187 --> 1:29:07.067 away from home like like New Zealand, and when the 1:29:07.187 --> 1:29:09.907 chances appear, I spoke with Nick, I spoke with Terror, 1:29:09.947 --> 1:29:13.907 I spoke with Bill. It was really a fantastic opportunity 1:29:14.027 --> 1:29:16.867 and I study everything around and when when we shared my. 1:29:16.987 --> 1:29:20.987 Ideas, the chance was created. And I'm really happy to 1:29:21.067 --> 1:29:21.347 be here. 1:29:21.427 --> 1:29:21.547 Now. 1:29:22.227 --> 1:29:26.547 You come into a team that already, even in short existence, 1:29:26.547 --> 1:29:30.227 has had good success I League Premiers in their first season, 1:29:30.307 --> 1:29:34.987 I League champions last season. How do you balance respecting 1:29:35.067 --> 1:29:38.467 what has been built but also putting your own stamp 1:29:38.547 --> 1:29:38.987 on the team. 1:29:40.787 --> 1:29:42.907 First of all, you must to understand their detached that 1:29:43.107 --> 1:29:46.067 air from Steve Okay, it was really two amazing years 1:29:46.147 --> 1:29:48.027 in the last in the last two seasons, with a 1:29:48.067 --> 1:29:50.267 lot of quality. Okay, in the quality, in the way 1:29:50.347 --> 1:29:53.187 that they play, the demands that they created the championship, 1:29:54.147 --> 1:29:57.107 the way that the ambition that could be possible to 1:29:57.227 --> 1:30:00.707 create on the players, on the relation between the between them, 1:30:01.427 --> 1:30:07.307 even don't we could never forget the logistic situation that 1:30:07.387 --> 1:30:10.267 the club like this have to play in Australia. Okay, 1:30:10.627 --> 1:30:13.867 the time that they pass in flight moments, in hotel moments, 1:30:14.987 --> 1:30:17.747 it's it's so different than the other the other teams. 1:30:17.787 --> 1:30:20.067 We must do understand this, and really it was the 1:30:20.787 --> 1:30:23.867 challenge that they create for the way that could be 1:30:23.947 --> 1:30:26.667 possible to repeat these two years in a row, and 1:30:26.787 --> 1:30:29.507 I hope that to be possible in the two years 1:30:29.547 --> 1:30:33.387 in a row. I know the difficulty that will be 1:30:33.507 --> 1:30:36.307 in the future. I know the demands that are created already. 1:30:36.547 --> 1:30:40.667 I'm completely ambitious for that. I will work hard with 1:30:40.827 --> 1:30:43.267 all of my boys to be possible after chance, with 1:30:43.427 --> 1:30:46.747 my with my really with my individual stamp, but especially 1:30:47.747 --> 1:30:50.147 to be to have a chance to pass the spotlight 1:30:50.267 --> 1:30:52.747 for what they will do on the pitch, the quality 1:30:52.827 --> 1:30:55.947 of football, the organization of the team, the way that 1:30:56.107 --> 1:30:59.987 we will create chances, don't allow chances to the opponent. 1:31:00.467 --> 1:31:02.827 There's really something that we could have done. We could 1:31:02.827 --> 1:31:03.427 not forget that. 1:31:03.587 --> 1:31:06.227 A few things that already change in the in the club, 1:31:06.707 --> 1:31:09.307 the salary cap, the ceiling that are created for the 1:31:09.387 --> 1:31:12.707 new for the new season, the renew of the squad. 1:31:12.747 --> 1:31:15.067 Also the situation that create also. 1:31:16.387 --> 1:31:18.947 That must to create more ambition in these players for 1:31:19.587 --> 1:31:22.387 the future, and I'm here to work with them to 1:31:22.467 --> 1:31:25.347 be possible in the future, improve everything and a lot 1:31:25.427 --> 1:31:28.067 of situations from from the present to the future. 1:31:28.747 --> 1:31:32.867 Tell us about your coaching philosophy. What can fans expect 1:31:32.947 --> 1:31:35.667 from from your teams. How do you like your teams 1:31:35.707 --> 1:31:36.107 to play? 1:31:38.067 --> 1:31:40.107 First of all, we must understand what they did in 1:31:40.187 --> 1:31:42.307 the past, the good things that they did, and use 1:31:42.587 --> 1:31:45.347 use that kind of situation. The organization, first of all, 1:31:45.427 --> 1:31:48.507 two depends on tactical systems, but first of all depends 1:31:48.547 --> 1:31:51.267 of the way that we fulfill the spaces when we 1:31:51.307 --> 1:31:53.827 don't have the ball, but especially when the moment that 1:31:53.907 --> 1:31:56.747 we have the ball, because that that is the moment 1:31:56.827 --> 1:31:59.867 when we will be possible control the game and show 1:31:59.907 --> 1:32:04.307 more quality to our fans and also to have the 1:32:04.947 --> 1:32:07.987 superiority instead of the whole opponents. What I like, what 1:32:08.107 --> 1:32:10.267 I like in the teams is that's be possible to 1:32:10.347 --> 1:32:13.547 the supporters to be allowed to the supporter check. This 1:32:13.667 --> 1:32:17.787 is an organized team that work hard and fight hard 1:32:17.947 --> 1:32:21.747 for the victory for every every play that participates. And 1:32:21.867 --> 1:32:24.387 we are organized and we have a relation between sectors, 1:32:24.467 --> 1:32:27.547 between the spaces to really recover the ball as soon 1:32:27.547 --> 1:32:29.987 as possible and don't allow the chances. In the same way, 1:32:31.027 --> 1:32:33.147 try to play as a position of play with the 1:32:33.227 --> 1:32:37.907 quality in attacking football and in the moment that instead 1:32:37.987 --> 1:32:40.587 what happened with the opponents, we play a lot for 1:32:40.747 --> 1:32:44.227 the spaces that the opponents allow us and we will 1:32:44.267 --> 1:32:45.547 try to play with quality. 1:32:46.307 --> 1:32:48.627 Can be inside, can be outside. 1:32:48.187 --> 1:32:51.347 But really to create the reallation between of the players 1:32:51.427 --> 1:32:55.627 that could that could be possible to control the games 1:32:55.667 --> 1:32:58.747 with quality. In this situation, we have a lot of 1:32:58.907 --> 1:33:01.107 players that show in the in the recity in the 1:33:01.187 --> 1:33:04.907 recently past that we have real equality and we must 1:33:05.107 --> 1:33:08.387 work hard to be possible in the next season show 1:33:08.427 --> 1:33:12.307 the same thing for all of all of our supports 1:33:12.347 --> 1:33:14.547 and keep the same happiness in the stands that we 1:33:14.667 --> 1:33:15.987 had in the last two seasons. 1:33:16.627 --> 1:33:19.707 You come into the team peg driven and you very 1:33:19.787 --> 1:33:23.827 much inherit the plying squad. The squad is pretty much complete. 1:33:24.027 --> 1:33:28.747 So how much does that change your approach? Are you 1:33:28.907 --> 1:33:33.387 able to come in and allow those players to apply 1:33:33.507 --> 1:33:36.227 your style even though you didn't pack them yourself. 1:33:38.347 --> 1:33:40.387 There's two situations that we can think about it. 1:33:40.547 --> 1:33:42.987 First of all, since the moment that we spoke about 1:33:43.147 --> 1:33:46.947 this opportunity, I discussed this with Nick and Terry especially. 1:33:48.147 --> 1:33:50.987 Of course it's important to share that of course I 1:33:51.067 --> 1:33:53.067 don't choose a lot of players that we have in 1:33:53.147 --> 1:33:55.907 the team, and also we renew a few a few 1:33:55.947 --> 1:33:59.987 of these players to keep the players the team more young, 1:34:00.587 --> 1:34:03.787 more ambitious also and it's important sometimes we must create 1:34:03.827 --> 1:34:06.587 a good environment for this kind of players with in 1:34:06.667 --> 1:34:09.827 their lives improve on their careers and could we are 1:34:09.827 --> 1:34:14.947 speaking about fantastic players with quality, with such an amazing 1:34:14.987 --> 1:34:17.147 future to be possible to play in a team like 1:34:17.667 --> 1:34:20.707 Auckland f C. Even in this kind of situation when 1:34:20.747 --> 1:34:22.627 we spoke about we have a change, even in this 1:34:22.747 --> 1:34:25.507 guy and in this moment to increase the quality of 1:34:25.587 --> 1:34:28.347 the team with two three spots that we have free. 1:34:29.787 --> 1:34:30.427 From the future. 1:34:30.427 --> 1:34:33.667 But of course we change a few situations from the 1:34:33.787 --> 1:34:36.507 present to the future. We are speaking about a different 1:34:36.547 --> 1:34:39.147 salary cap. There's a lot of situation that we must 1:34:39.387 --> 1:34:42.907 change since the last season. Of course I'm inside, I 1:34:42.947 --> 1:34:46.187 will try. But the main thing I was thinking about 1:34:46.227 --> 1:34:48.907 in the beginning and I changed my handser. But the 1:34:49.027 --> 1:34:52.307 most important situation, it's about the understandable what is the 1:34:52.387 --> 1:34:56.907 club culture and what is the player's characteristics? First of all, 1:34:58.187 --> 1:35:00.707 when we build up a new game model in the team, 1:35:01.387 --> 1:35:03.387 so we will use what we did it well in 1:35:03.467 --> 1:35:06.747 the past. We will create with my idea, with my 1:35:06.907 --> 1:35:10.827 coaching staff support, we will create a new philosophy. In 1:35:10.907 --> 1:35:13.907 a few situations, but we can use. We have this 1:35:14.107 --> 1:35:16.947 big advantage to use the good things that they use 1:35:17.027 --> 1:35:19.427 with Steve in the past, and could be possible to 1:35:19.547 --> 1:35:23.027 approach from my ideas as soon as possible, to control 1:35:23.107 --> 1:35:25.747 the games, to have that chance to win more games. 1:35:26.387 --> 1:35:29.947 And the only thing that I could promise, even to 1:35:29.987 --> 1:35:32.867 don't choose the players, even for a different coach, even 1:35:32.987 --> 1:35:36.147 for a different culture. What I can promise is commitment 1:35:36.267 --> 1:35:38.867 and have for to be possible with the hard work, 1:35:39.467 --> 1:35:41.387 improve in the in the next games. 1:35:41.387 --> 1:35:44.707 Already, something that's been a big feature of your coaching 1:35:44.747 --> 1:35:47.747 career Page Rivers being developing young players. It's been a 1:35:47.827 --> 1:35:52.467 consistent theme throughout your career. How important does that to 1:35:52.587 --> 1:35:55.107 your vision for Oakland DEFSA. 1:35:57.027 --> 1:36:00.547 It's very important if anyone, My career starts on the 1:36:00.827 --> 1:36:03.227 development of really off young kids. I work in the 1:36:03.347 --> 1:36:05.427 small clubs in Portugal, in the youth, I work in 1:36:05.547 --> 1:36:09.307 Portuguese Federal for that, and I finish my Hugue career 1:36:09.427 --> 1:36:16.947 in Sporting and Sporting Lisbon working with nowadays international Portuguese Squad. Okay, 1:36:17.427 --> 1:36:19.467 I work with them in the beginning of the career 1:36:19.547 --> 1:36:22.547 with twelve thirteen years old. The moment that they change 1:36:22.587 --> 1:36:24.947 for seven a side for eleven side. Okay, it's really 1:36:25.027 --> 1:36:28.867 the beginning of the career. It's very interesting after that 1:36:29.827 --> 1:36:33.027 I enter in a professional professional football like an as 1:36:33.107 --> 1:36:36.147 system of Polophonsic in a different in a different roles 1:36:36.187 --> 1:36:40.227 inside of technical staff. Also that creates me and allow 1:36:40.347 --> 1:36:42.947 me to understand a lot of things that nowadays I 1:36:43.027 --> 1:36:48.067 ask for my assistance and really for me, it's very 1:36:48.107 --> 1:36:51.027 important to understand that there's a chance to bet on 1:36:51.107 --> 1:36:54.147 the young guys. But also is important and I share 1:36:54.187 --> 1:36:56.827 that with my board, I share that for the people 1:36:56.907 --> 1:37:00.027 that I have around me here in Auckland. It's important 1:37:00.067 --> 1:37:02.547 to create a good environment for that to be possible. 1:37:02.827 --> 1:37:06.147 Even when they have the responsibility to play in such 1:37:06.147 --> 1:37:09.507 a huge team like Oakland f C. They have a 1:37:09.587 --> 1:37:13.187 possibility to show their qualities and don't forget when they 1:37:13.227 --> 1:37:16.827 are young, they have to take risks, they have to 1:37:16.987 --> 1:37:20.467 have a possibility to make mistakes, and such a club 1:37:20.587 --> 1:37:22.787 like this sometimes we don't have time and space to 1:37:22.867 --> 1:37:23.067 do it. 1:37:23.347 --> 1:37:25.747 But I believe in the quality of them. 1:37:25.867 --> 1:37:28.307 I believe that could be a chance, an opportunity for 1:37:28.467 --> 1:37:31.907 all of them to increase their own qualities inside the 1:37:31.947 --> 1:37:35.067 collective idea that allows us to achieve more victories in 1:37:35.107 --> 1:37:36.427 the future, just. 1:37:36.467 --> 1:37:39.667 To finish Pedro. There are a lot of Aukland FCA 1:37:39.827 --> 1:37:43.867 fans listening to this interview. Do you have any message 1:37:43.947 --> 1:37:46.507 for them? What are we a couple of months out 1:37:46.867 --> 1:37:48.827 from the new Eye League, Sason? What is your message 1:37:48.867 --> 1:37:50.147 to the club's fans. 1:37:53.587 --> 1:37:57.387 I like to share that's very important for me to 1:37:57.507 --> 1:38:00.267 be possible field the support of the of the port, 1:38:00.827 --> 1:38:03.667 with all of the supporters of Oakland f C. When 1:38:03.707 --> 1:38:06.267 I analyzed the team, when I saw YouTube videos, when 1:38:06.267 --> 1:38:09.987 I saw documentary about Oakland f C, when I analyzed 1:38:09.987 --> 1:38:12.347 the way that they play in the past, come on, 1:38:12.627 --> 1:38:15.387 it's unbelievable. The way that they push for the team, 1:38:15.467 --> 1:38:19.227 the way that they are happy understands, the way that 1:38:19.387 --> 1:38:23.987 they create entertainment around the game of football with such 1:38:24.027 --> 1:38:27.947 a high quality like this, and the biggest example was 1:38:28.027 --> 1:38:30.667 the forty thousand that we had Understands and then the 1:38:30.747 --> 1:38:34.787 game against against Spurts. We can call it a friendly game, 1:38:34.827 --> 1:38:37.387 but that was not friendly. That was something to show 1:38:37.947 --> 1:38:40.627 really the strength that we have on the stands with 1:38:40.867 --> 1:38:44.587 such such a quality of supporters, I believe a lot. 1:38:44.707 --> 1:38:46.667 I believe a lot in the proximity I have a 1:38:46.707 --> 1:38:50.307 lot of pitm I'm really a pity that that cannot 1:38:50.387 --> 1:38:52.747 possible to see a game inside of the port. It 1:38:52.787 --> 1:38:55.627 will be a fantastic experience for me as a coach, 1:38:55.667 --> 1:38:59.267 as a fan of football to have a chance to 1:38:59.587 --> 1:39:02.547 be inside of the port. Nowadays it will be very difficult, 1:39:02.627 --> 1:39:06.707 but it's true, it's true, it's really just really, really 1:39:06.787 --> 1:39:09.547 the ever opportunity. Don't forget that. I play a lot 1:39:09.627 --> 1:39:12.707 of derbies around the world. I play romad Derby, I 1:39:12.827 --> 1:39:18.307 play in Portugal, fantastic games. I play in Ukraine against 1:39:18.387 --> 1:39:21.307 Dina Mukiev and chackdad on Edge, really the strongest teams 1:39:21.347 --> 1:39:25.067 on the country. You can feel the atmosphere. But what 1:39:25.267 --> 1:39:28.347 I saw, what I saw in the celebrations of the 1:39:28.507 --> 1:39:31.907 titles here in Oakland, it's it's really different. And I 1:39:32.027 --> 1:39:34.947 hope to be possible that the guys in the future 1:39:35.027 --> 1:39:39.827 feel the way that these players will work hard to 1:39:40.027 --> 1:39:43.667 be possible. And I want to feel the applause instead 1:39:43.747 --> 1:39:46.507 of the result, instead of the result, to fill the 1:39:46.707 --> 1:39:51.827 plows that the guys could feel every game that we 1:39:52.147 --> 1:39:55.987 achieve the maximum skill, the maximum effort in our skills 1:39:56.107 --> 1:40:00.027 to be approached, the victories in each game, so I'm 1:40:00.147 --> 1:40:02.427 very happy to be here. I'm very happy to to 1:40:02.707 --> 1:40:06.947 to share my game, to share my my my players 1:40:07.027 --> 1:40:09.267 and my team and the an our hour way of 1:40:09.427 --> 1:40:12.067 playing with these kind of supporters and I hope to 1:40:12.147 --> 1:40:14.027 be happy on the future with all of them. 1:40:14.387 --> 1:40:17.467 Well, it's wonderful to have you here. I know the 1:40:17.507 --> 1:40:19.987 club's fans are very much looking forward to watching Auckland 1:40:20.107 --> 1:40:22.507 FC with you in charge. Pedro, thank you so much 1:40:22.547 --> 1:40:24.827 for joining us today and I look forward to catching 1:40:24.907 --> 1:40:25.747 up throughout the season. 1:40:26.227 --> 1:40:28.067 Thank you very much. It was a pleasure. Okay, and 1:40:28.107 --> 1:40:30.147 thank you and let's go Aukland season. 1:40:30.827 --> 1:40:34.107 Let's go indeed. Pedro Moderator, new head coach of Auckland 1:40:34.227 --> 1:40:37.427 f C. Their A League season starts on Saturday, October 1:40:37.547 --> 1:40:40.067 seventeen to twenty four. News Talks they'd be back in 1:40:40.107 --> 1:40:40.547 the mow. 1:40:41.067 --> 1:40:45.107 From Grassroots to the grand Stand Weekend Sport with Jason 1:40:45.187 --> 1:40:48.787 Vine and the Altiq seven Dynamic Black Runout edition from 1:40:48.867 --> 1:40:51.667 one thirty nine, nine ninety all eight hundred and eighty 1:40:51.747 --> 1:40:53.067 ten eighty News Talks. 1:40:52.867 --> 1:40:55.787 Ab coming up to twenty seven. Marcus Daniel one of 1:40:55.867 --> 1:40:58.547 our great tennis players. He reached the Australian Open doubles 1:40:58.627 --> 1:41:01.387 quarter finals in twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one, the 1:41:01.427 --> 1:41:05.427 Wimbledon quarter finals in twenty nineteen. He made fifteen ATP 1:41:05.587 --> 1:41:08.027 doubles finals, winning five of those. He was as ranked 1:41:08.067 --> 1:41:10.467 as high as number thirty four in the world. He 1:41:10.547 --> 1:41:13.707 won Olympic bronze with Michael Venus in twenty twenty one, 1:41:14.027 --> 1:41:17.907 our first Olympic tennis medal since Anthony Wilding won bronze 1:41:17.947 --> 1:41:22.587 in Stockholm in nineteen twelve. With fellow Olympia and Hugo English, 1:41:22.907 --> 1:41:27.507 Marcus Daniel founded High Impact Athletes. They work to connect 1:41:27.547 --> 1:41:31.587 the sporting world with the most rigorously evaluated charities on 1:41:31.667 --> 1:41:35.467 the planet across climate action, global health and animal welfare, 1:41:35.867 --> 1:41:40.987 and now High Impact Athletes has convened Sport one Carbon Zero, 1:41:41.547 --> 1:41:45.547 a global athlete led climate fund, which involves New Zealand 1:41:45.627 --> 1:41:49.347 athletes at these Commonwealth Games. Paul Valter, Eliza McCartney, javelin 1:41:49.427 --> 1:41:52.627 thrower Tory Morby and weightlifter to David Letti, all of 1:41:52.707 --> 1:41:55.987 who have meddled at these Games, have pledged to turn 1:41:56.067 --> 1:42:01.067 their performances into donations for climate action. With every centimeter 1:42:01.187 --> 1:42:05.467 they clear, meter they throw, and kilogram they lift, raising 1:42:05.547 --> 1:42:10.347 money for projects aimed at reducing global emissions. Marcus Daniel 1:42:10.467 --> 1:42:13.387 is with US Marcus Sport one Carbon Zero. Where did 1:42:13.427 --> 1:42:17.707 the concept of athletes linking their performances directly to climate 1:42:17.827 --> 1:42:18.787 donations come from? 1:42:20.187 --> 1:42:22.027 Yeah? Thanks Jashon. That was a hell of a roundup 1:42:22.067 --> 1:42:22.307 as well. 1:42:23.427 --> 1:42:26.827 So I think it's human nature to pay more attention 1:42:26.947 --> 1:42:28.787 to things if you have something writing on it. And 1:42:29.467 --> 1:42:32.427 I thought, instead of, you know, putting a few bucks 1:42:32.467 --> 1:42:35.507 towards a sporting competition, why don't we put impact on 1:42:35.587 --> 1:42:39.267 the lane. You know, you're more likely to follow an event, 1:42:39.347 --> 1:42:41.747 You're more likely to follow a performance. 1:42:41.427 --> 1:42:42.947 If you have a vested interest. 1:42:43.147 --> 1:42:46.427 So, yeah, these athletes have made these beautiful commitments where 1:42:46.947 --> 1:42:50.427 their performances on the field of plea are directly related 1:42:50.467 --> 1:42:55.107 to impact off field, and kiwis anyone around the world 1:42:55.227 --> 1:42:57.227 can make a pledge alongside them and get involved. 1:42:57.747 --> 1:43:01.707 When you approached the likes of Eliza Tory, David hay 1:43:01.787 --> 1:43:04.107 Mission and pitched the idea to them, what was their 1:43:04.307 --> 1:43:05.947 initial reaction on the whole. 1:43:07.347 --> 1:43:09.787 Really cool thing is that all of these athletes jumped 1:43:09.787 --> 1:43:13.747 at it. I think it's a common problem amongst the 1:43:13.787 --> 1:43:16.507 athlete community that a lot of athletes want to give back, 1:43:16.547 --> 1:43:18.787 they want to do good in the world, but they're 1:43:19.307 --> 1:43:22.667 usually energy poor and don't really trust the charities that 1:43:22.947 --> 1:43:25.307 they've come across that they've grown up with, and so 1:43:25.387 --> 1:43:29.667 I think this provided a really deeply researched and vetted 1:43:29.707 --> 1:43:32.747 way for them to get involved, and also just the 1:43:33.107 --> 1:43:38.187 reframing of attacking the climate problem in a really forward 1:43:38.267 --> 1:43:41.467 looking positive way. So rather than sort of trying to 1:43:41.627 --> 1:43:44.387 put a band aid over past harms, we're looking at 1:43:44.987 --> 1:43:47.347 what are the biggest leavers that we can pull on 1:43:47.547 --> 1:43:49.667 to make a difference for the future and try to 1:43:49.707 --> 1:43:52.467 make sport greener for generations to come. And I think 1:43:52.507 --> 1:43:55.667 that optimistic positive framing really really landed with athletes. 1:43:55.987 --> 1:43:58.667 Do you think there's a growing feeling among elite athletes 1:43:58.707 --> 1:44:02.227 that they have an opportunity but also a responsibility to 1:44:02.387 --> 1:44:05.787 use their profile and their platform for causes beyond the 1:44:05.827 --> 1:44:06.707 sport that they play. 1:44:09.267 --> 1:44:14.267 Yeah, I think the opportunity part is definitely becoming more 1:44:14.467 --> 1:44:15.667 known amongst athletes. 1:44:15.667 --> 1:44:16.947 The responsibility is mixed. 1:44:16.987 --> 1:44:19.227 You know, there are still a lot of athletes who 1:44:19.707 --> 1:44:22.427 are just head down and very narrowly focused on their 1:44:22.467 --> 1:44:26.227 sport and that's totally fine, right, Like, I know, how 1:44:26.307 --> 1:44:30.427 much mental focus and effort it takes just to try 1:44:30.467 --> 1:44:33.227 and sort of stay there and make a living out 1:44:33.267 --> 1:44:35.707 of sport. So I don't begrudge any athletes who just 1:44:35.827 --> 1:44:38.547 want to focus on their sport, but it is it's 1:44:38.587 --> 1:44:40.867 pretty amazing to see how many athletes are using their 1:44:40.867 --> 1:44:43.467 platforms to speak up, and not just in the climate space, 1:44:43.507 --> 1:44:46.347 but more widely. You know, an example that comes to 1:44:46.427 --> 1:44:49.547 my mind is Marcus Rashford and Great Britain talking about 1:44:49.547 --> 1:44:52.107 school lunches, and he's created a real movement there, So 1:44:52.387 --> 1:44:54.787 I think, you know, maybe it just takes a few 1:44:54.867 --> 1:44:57.947 more superstar athletes speaking out for it to become more 1:44:57.987 --> 1:44:58.427 of a trend. 1:44:59.067 --> 1:45:01.707 In terms of the climate change side of this, there 1:45:01.747 --> 1:45:04.507 has been a bit of rain in Glasgow particularly some 1:45:04.587 --> 1:45:06.747 of the trend and field that I've seen, but the 1:45:06.787 --> 1:45:11.147 backdrop is another European summer of extreme heat. Do you 1:45:11.187 --> 1:45:13.307 think athletes are now seeing climate change is something that 1:45:13.467 --> 1:45:16.427 is actually affecting their careers rather than just something which 1:45:16.507 --> 1:45:17.467 is a bit abstract to them. 1:45:19.267 --> 1:45:23.187 Yes, I do, But I also don't think it's new athletes. 1:45:23.467 --> 1:45:25.507 You know, there are plenty of surveys that can be 1:45:25.587 --> 1:45:29.747 found that show that elite athletes have been very concerned 1:45:29.787 --> 1:45:32.307 about climate issues for a long time. I think that 1:45:32.787 --> 1:45:35.587 I saw one recently that it was close to eighty 1:45:35.587 --> 1:45:38.947 percent of all athletes surveyed. We're deeply concerned about climate 1:45:39.067 --> 1:45:41.187 and the effect that had on them. So I don't 1:45:41.187 --> 1:45:43.467 think it's a new thing, but I do think, well, 1:45:43.627 --> 1:45:45.707 it seems to me anyway that there are more of 1:45:45.827 --> 1:45:50.987 these quite strange, pretty extreme events that are happening around 1:45:50.987 --> 1:45:54.107 the world and that are affecting sporting events. I mean, 1:45:54.227 --> 1:45:56.067 you know, you saw these hydration breaks at the World 1:45:56.147 --> 1:45:59.907 Cup for the first time ever. So yeah, it's sort 1:45:59.947 --> 1:46:03.107 of starting to starting to penetrate a bit more deeply 1:46:03.267 --> 1:46:04.947 into the day to day of sport. 1:46:05.347 --> 1:46:08.187 You mentioned before, Mark that some athletes have a bit 1:46:08.227 --> 1:46:11.827 of skepticism, maybe some suspicion about the charities that they 1:46:12.427 --> 1:46:15.427 are approached to become involved in. How do you make 1:46:15.467 --> 1:46:18.907 sure that the money that is raised through initiatives like 1:46:19.147 --> 1:46:21.307 this go to the right places? 1:46:23.107 --> 1:46:25.667 Yeah, well, that's where I think we have a point 1:46:25.707 --> 1:46:28.587 of difference at high impact athletes. A lot of the 1:46:28.667 --> 1:46:32.587 charity space is based on vibes, and you need the vibes, right, 1:46:33.267 --> 1:46:36.427 you give from the heart. But what we really specialize 1:46:36.427 --> 1:46:39.947 in is working with research organizations that are the most 1:46:40.067 --> 1:46:42.547 rigorous in the world. So these are organizations that spend 1:46:42.627 --> 1:46:45.667 tens of thousands of hours a year researching where the 1:46:45.747 --> 1:46:48.427 best place to give is, and all of their research 1:46:48.507 --> 1:46:51.067 is publicly available, and they come out with a very 1:46:51.187 --> 1:46:54.307 very small list of recommendations that pass all of these standards. 1:46:54.787 --> 1:46:57.867 So the upshot is, if you choose any of those 1:46:58.147 --> 1:47:01.987 organizations to contribute to, then you can be pretty much 1:47:02.027 --> 1:47:03.627 as sure as you can be in the space that 1:47:03.707 --> 1:47:05.347 your dollars doing as much as it can do. 1:47:06.547 --> 1:47:07.107 And I think. 1:47:07.027 --> 1:47:11.147 It's sort of this it's like a high performance framing 1:47:11.307 --> 1:47:14.067 of charity, and I think that's actually something that lands 1:47:14.107 --> 1:47:17.067 for athletes because athletes, you know, they pretty much every 1:47:17.107 --> 1:47:19.907 decision they make in their day is around trying to 1:47:20.987 --> 1:47:23.347 trying to find that extra zero point one percent. You know, 1:47:23.427 --> 1:47:27.027 it's a high performance lifestyle, a high performance focus, and 1:47:27.147 --> 1:47:29.347 it's just applying that same mindset to charity. 1:47:30.467 --> 1:47:33.987 So what I think we can truthfully claim is that, 1:47:35.107 --> 1:47:36.307 especially in the sport. 1:47:36.107 --> 1:47:39.587 Times charity space, we are the most impactful per dollar 1:47:39.667 --> 1:47:43.387 in the world, and athletes can be very very comfortable 1:47:43.467 --> 1:47:46.107 that anything that they choose to support through high impact 1:47:46.187 --> 1:47:48.787 athletes is amongst the best in the world. 1:47:49.427 --> 1:47:53.787 Elite sport involves a massive amount of international travel. So 1:47:53.867 --> 1:47:55.787 how do you respond to people who say, well, that's 1:47:55.907 --> 1:47:59.427 very difficult to reconcile with climate action. 1:48:01.387 --> 1:48:05.467 I think they're one hundred percent correct, And the question 1:48:05.587 --> 1:48:08.867 I'd ask those people is, would you rather that athletes 1:48:08.907 --> 1:48:11.867 did nothing or tried to do something to address it. 1:48:13.067 --> 1:48:18.387 I don't think that sport will ever be will ever 1:48:18.507 --> 1:48:19.347 not involve travel. 1:48:19.387 --> 1:48:22.547 I think the beauty of sport is that it's loved 1:48:22.627 --> 1:48:25.627 around the world, and fans of sport around the world 1:48:25.707 --> 1:48:29.387 want to see the best athletes playing on their home ground. 1:48:30.067 --> 1:48:31.827 So athletes are going to have to travel. I don't 1:48:31.827 --> 1:48:34.427 think that's ever going to change. And so the question 1:48:34.587 --> 1:48:37.427 we asked is, well, if that is the case, pragmatically, 1:48:37.547 --> 1:48:40.427 what is the best thing that we can do to 1:48:40.507 --> 1:48:44.387 try to reduce, for example, the emissions that come from 1:48:44.547 --> 1:48:47.507 aviation or from shipping, which is also a huge part 1:48:47.547 --> 1:48:52.787 of you know, getting gear and getting teams around the world. So, yeah, 1:48:52.987 --> 1:48:55.147 I think they're correct, but I also think it's better 1:48:55.227 --> 1:48:56.867 to do something than to do nothing. 1:48:57.507 --> 1:49:00.507 In the last ten years of your own professional tennis career, 1:49:00.907 --> 1:49:03.147 you donated a portion of your prize money to charity. 1:49:03.587 --> 1:49:06.827 In your final year, half of your winnings donated to 1:49:06.907 --> 1:49:10.507 help fight child poverty, animal abeuse the impacts of climate change. 1:49:11.387 --> 1:49:14.747 What led to your own perspective changing, Marcus about what 1:49:14.907 --> 1:49:17.107 success looked like beyond just winning tennis matches. 1:49:19.987 --> 1:49:23.307 Yeah, a great question. I also I had a shocker 1:49:23.347 --> 1:49:27.027 of a year in my last year, so that fifty 1:49:27.067 --> 1:49:28.867 percent was not nearly as big as I hoped it 1:49:28.867 --> 1:49:29.147 would be. 1:49:31.187 --> 1:49:32.947 But yeah, so. 1:49:34.547 --> 1:49:37.147 Through through the early stages of my professional career, I 1:49:37.467 --> 1:49:40.147 was just head down trying to make it. You know, 1:49:40.227 --> 1:49:42.467 it was really touch and go. I was sleeping on floors. 1:49:42.507 --> 1:49:45.427 I was trying to just keep the dream alive. And 1:49:46.147 --> 1:49:48.907 then when I reached the stage where, you know, I 1:49:48.987 --> 1:49:51.547 felt some sort of security in the idea that I 1:49:51.587 --> 1:49:54.187 could make a living through playing tennis. You know, I 1:49:54.267 --> 1:49:56.107 was getting to the end of the year and actually 1:49:56.907 --> 1:49:59.547 actually having a little more money in the bank account 1:49:59.587 --> 1:50:01.507 than when i'd started the year, and that was new. 1:50:01.587 --> 1:50:04.707 But when that happened, I felt this really strong urge 1:50:04.747 --> 1:50:07.067 to get back. Because sport is selfish like that, I 1:50:07.107 --> 1:50:10.627 don't think there's anyway around it, and it's necessarily selfish. 1:50:10.667 --> 1:50:13.427 You know, you're trying to outcompete everyone, even in a 1:50:13.467 --> 1:50:15.787 team situation, you're trying to outcompete. 1:50:15.267 --> 1:50:16.307 For the position that you play. 1:50:17.107 --> 1:50:20.307 And you know, I'm a competitive person by nature, but 1:50:20.867 --> 1:50:25.747 that sort of killer instinct way of being on the 1:50:25.787 --> 1:50:28.747 field of play, it never really sat perfectly with how 1:50:28.827 --> 1:50:32.067 I wanted to sort of be in general life. And so, Yeah, 1:50:32.067 --> 1:50:34.987 I felt this urge to give and didn't really know 1:50:35.067 --> 1:50:36.987 what to do with it, and ended up coming across 1:50:37.067 --> 1:50:40.387 this sort of niche in the charity space of giving effectively, 1:50:40.507 --> 1:50:42.227 so trying to make your dollars do as much as 1:50:42.267 --> 1:50:44.347 they could do. And the more I read about it, 1:50:44.427 --> 1:50:47.067 the more it resonated with me, and I realized that 1:50:47.147 --> 1:50:50.827 I needed to pull the trigger. Yeah, made a donation 1:50:50.947 --> 1:50:54.787 and then, honestly, the biggest change for me was the 1:50:55.107 --> 1:50:57.627 following year. I started with a one percent pledge, so 1:50:58.507 --> 1:51:01.787 one percent of my earnings on tour, and the moment 1:51:01.867 --> 1:51:05.947 that I internally committed to that pledge, that was that 1:51:06.147 --> 1:51:08.067 was a real turning point for me, because suddenly it 1:51:08.147 --> 1:51:11.987 meant that every match that I won, Okay, it was 1:51:12.027 --> 1:51:14.347 great for me. I was ambitious. I wanted to, you know, 1:51:14.467 --> 1:51:16.347 get to the top of the world in tennis. So 1:51:16.467 --> 1:51:18.907 there was all of that sort of personal benefit, but 1:51:19.147 --> 1:51:21.707 there was also this really small piece that was for 1:51:21.827 --> 1:51:26.627 something so much bigger than myself. And it sounds I 1:51:26.627 --> 1:51:28.067 don't know, it sounds like a bit of a cliche 1:51:28.187 --> 1:51:32.827 or maybe I'm exaggerating it, but that actually that had 1:51:32.867 --> 1:51:35.947 a huge impact on my enjoyment of the whole process. 1:51:36.347 --> 1:51:38.547 You know, it's like getting out of bed in the 1:51:38.627 --> 1:51:41.187 morning and your body's just in pieces and you're in pain, 1:51:41.307 --> 1:51:43.467 and you need to go out and do another six 1:51:43.547 --> 1:51:47.107 hour training day, and then there's this little piece in 1:51:47.147 --> 1:51:49.427 my mind that's like, we'll just shut up and stop 1:51:49.467 --> 1:51:51.667 being a selfish prep like this is for something bigger 1:51:51.707 --> 1:51:58.507 than yourself. And yeah, ultimately it's been a huge positive 1:51:58.587 --> 1:52:00.107 in my life. Like getting to the end of the 1:52:00.187 --> 1:52:02.867 year and making those donations, figuring out what that percentage 1:52:02.907 --> 1:52:06.587 meant in dollar terms, and clicking the buttons to to 1:52:06.707 --> 1:52:09.907 get the money to where it needed to go. Those 1:52:09.947 --> 1:52:13.787 are some of the most sort of positive, beautiful moments 1:52:13.827 --> 1:52:16.667 of those years. So I don't regret a single moment. 1:52:18.027 --> 1:52:20.827 I can see why those you approached to link their 1:52:20.867 --> 1:52:24.067 performance to this sort of thing. We're convinced by by 1:52:24.147 --> 1:52:27.307 what you've just said. There, you're on the IOC Athletes 1:52:27.347 --> 1:52:30.707 Commission as well, you're having these conversations around sustainability. My 1:52:30.827 --> 1:52:34.707 gutfield Markers is that younger athletes would embrace these conversations 1:52:35.267 --> 1:52:37.907 more readily perhaps than older athletes. But are you seeing 1:52:38.587 --> 1:52:41.347 support for this sort of thing in older athletes as well? 1:52:43.427 --> 1:52:43.867 Yeah, I am. 1:52:44.027 --> 1:52:47.467 It's climate's an interesting one, right, Like, even that word 1:52:47.627 --> 1:52:50.427 I think has become a little bit polarizing in this 1:52:50.587 --> 1:52:52.907 day and age, and it's a shame that that's the case. 1:52:54.147 --> 1:52:57.987 But I've seen research recently that shows that, especially younger consumers, 1:52:58.627 --> 1:53:01.947 they would only buy from brands that they feel have 1:53:02.387 --> 1:53:04.707 a purpose driven piece of what they do. 1:53:05.867 --> 1:53:08.187 So I think, you know, I think and I hope 1:53:08.227 --> 1:53:08.947 that the younger. 1:53:08.787 --> 1:53:12.827 Generations are leaning into, you know, the wider picture and 1:53:13.267 --> 1:53:17.387 thinking more about purpose and yeah, the good that can 1:53:17.427 --> 1:53:20.827 be done in the world rather than just consumerism to finish. 1:53:20.867 --> 1:53:22.667 Then, if people are listening, they like the concept, but 1:53:22.707 --> 1:53:24.587 they're not elite athletes, I mean most of us aren't. 1:53:26.027 --> 1:53:29.747 Can every day sports fans make a meaningful contribution in 1:53:29.787 --> 1:53:30.507 the space as well? 1:53:32.187 --> 1:53:32.307 Oh? 1:53:32.427 --> 1:53:35.627 Absolutely, Like at the end of the day, a dollar 1:53:35.747 --> 1:53:39.747 is a dollar, and I'm really bullish on athletes being 1:53:39.787 --> 1:53:42.227 the leaders in this space, so you know, stepping up, 1:53:42.267 --> 1:53:45.267 putting their money where their mouth is, and then trying 1:53:45.307 --> 1:53:46.867 to bring as many people along with them on the 1:53:46.947 --> 1:53:47.747 journey as possible. 1:53:47.907 --> 1:53:49.867 So you know, for everyday people. 1:53:51.227 --> 1:53:54.187 You know, if you if you appreciated admire some of 1:53:54.267 --> 1:53:57.467 these amazing Kiwi athletes who are competing at the comm Games, 1:53:57.507 --> 1:54:00.267 then check out their campaigns, check out what they're committed 1:54:00.307 --> 1:54:03.547 to and get around them. Or if you wanted to 1:54:03.587 --> 1:54:06.267 give directly to the charities, then give give directly to 1:54:06.427 --> 1:54:08.667 the charities. Like what we care about. What I care 1:54:08.707 --> 1:54:12.067 about is that at the end of the day, good 1:54:12.187 --> 1:54:15.267 is done in the world. And I just think athletes 1:54:15.307 --> 1:54:19.427 are incredible front people to be pushing the sport sport. 1:54:19.227 --> 1:54:22.707 One carbon zero driven out of high impact the athletes. Marcus, 1:54:22.787 --> 1:54:25.067 amazing work you're doing, mate, Thanks for joining us and 1:54:25.467 --> 1:54:27.547 telling us all about it. I hope I hope that 1:54:27.627 --> 1:54:29.667 it that it grows and grows and grows. 1:54:29.747 --> 1:54:29.907 Mate. 1:54:29.907 --> 1:54:31.307 It's always good to catch. 1:54:31.187 --> 1:54:31.427 Up with you. 1:54:31.827 --> 1:54:33.187 Thanks so much, Jason, appreciate it. 1:54:33.267 --> 1:54:35.867 No, thank you, Marcus. Marcus Daniel there with us on 1:54:36.387 --> 1:54:39.147 weekend Sport twenty to three. Speaking of the Calm Games, 1:54:39.867 --> 1:54:42.107 a medal in the offing for the Silver Ferns tonight. 1:54:42.147 --> 1:54:44.667 Will it be silver? Will it be gold? They take 1:54:44.707 --> 1:54:47.467 on Jamaica in the final. Evon willerin going to preview 1:54:47.507 --> 1:54:48.547 it for us when we come back. 1:54:49.067 --> 1:54:52.907 The biggest themes in sports Talk to Piney, Weekend Sports 1:54:53.107 --> 1:54:56.467 with Jason Vine and the audi Q seven Dynamic Black 1:54:56.547 --> 1:55:00.147 Runout edition includes thirty thousand dollars of premium month grades, 1:55:00.267 --> 1:55:02.267 Youth Talks, EDB, News. 1:55:02.107 --> 1:55:04.347 Talks, EDB and Weekend Sports sixteen to three. The Silver 1:55:04.427 --> 1:55:07.027 Ferns will play for the gold medal had the Commonwealth 1:55:07.067 --> 1:55:11.187 Games in Glasgow tonight after an emphatic sixty one fifty 1:55:11.267 --> 1:55:13.947 four win over England and the Semis, there are opponents 1:55:13.987 --> 1:55:16.387 in the final bit of a surprise I'll played Jamaica 1:55:16.867 --> 1:55:21.027 after they downed defending champions Australia forty six to forty five. 1:55:21.387 --> 1:55:23.987 New Zealand have already beaten Jamaica fifty three forty eight 1:55:24.067 --> 1:55:26.947 in Paul play. The last time the Silver Ferns won 1:55:27.067 --> 1:55:31.587 Commonwealth Games gold was in Deli in twenty ten. Former 1:55:31.627 --> 1:55:34.187 Silver Ferns player and coach and now Netble commentator and 1:55:34.427 --> 1:55:37.827 analyst Yvonne Willering is with us to preview this one. 1:55:37.907 --> 1:55:40.747 First of all, Yvonne, how surprised are you that it's 1:55:40.827 --> 1:55:42.787 not Australia in the final. It's Jamaica. 1:55:43.787 --> 1:55:46.827 Yeah, and I think everyone would have expected that, wouldn't 1:55:46.827 --> 1:55:49.427 they have, you know, an Australia New Zealand final. But 1:55:49.627 --> 1:55:51.867 for World's netple as a whole, I mean that it 1:55:51.947 --> 1:55:55.027 couldn't have been scripted better to have had Joe Jamaica 1:55:55.107 --> 1:55:55.827 coming through that. 1:55:56.267 --> 1:55:58.587 But what gets me is that, I mean it could 1:55:58.627 --> 1:55:59.027 have gone. 1:55:58.907 --> 1:56:02.227 Either way, to be fair, right on the buzzer, Australia 1:56:02.267 --> 1:56:05.707 had an opportunity to draw the game. But having said that, 1:56:05.867 --> 1:56:08.907 the jama I had led throughout. But now you look 1:56:08.947 --> 1:56:12.547 at it, Australia has actually done both Jamaica and New 1:56:12.627 --> 1:56:15.427 Zealand for that matter, lots of favors because in that 1:56:15.667 --> 1:56:19.067 some Corp Super League, that's where the players are getting 1:56:19.107 --> 1:56:22.907 all their experience, and certainly the Jamaican defense they took 1:56:22.947 --> 1:56:26.787 it to that Australian combination and you know, they were 1:56:26.867 --> 1:56:29.707 well aware of what they were about. They've played against 1:56:29.747 --> 1:56:32.227 them in the sun Corps Super League and it showed 1:56:32.387 --> 1:56:35.627 and so Australia must look at their league to say, 1:56:35.947 --> 1:56:39.147 do we really want so many import players because next 1:56:39.227 --> 1:56:41.387 year is World Championship here. 1:56:41.907 --> 1:56:44.427 Indeed, indeed, well Jamaica getting there. As you're saying, the 1:56:44.467 --> 1:56:47.107 game that could have gone either way. By contrast, I 1:56:47.147 --> 1:56:49.627 thought the Silver Ferns were excellent against England. What did 1:56:49.667 --> 1:56:51.427 you make of their performance in the semi. 1:56:52.027 --> 1:56:55.867 Yeah, absolutely they were. But also keep it in perspective 1:56:55.947 --> 1:56:58.827 when Australia played England, they had an easy one against 1:56:58.867 --> 1:57:01.947 them as well, So you know, England, I believe, just 1:57:02.067 --> 1:57:07.067 makes too many substitutions. So yeah, it was a situation 1:57:07.587 --> 1:57:09.907 right from the start. Though you know, New Zealand meant 1:57:09.987 --> 1:57:12.547 business and what I liked about it, We do have 1:57:12.667 --> 1:57:15.787 a main lineup. Few changes were made, one or two 1:57:15.907 --> 1:57:18.867 tweaks at times, but you know, I think that we 1:57:19.027 --> 1:57:21.067 certainly won that game as a whole, and you could 1:57:21.107 --> 1:57:23.267 see that it was a team on the mission. And 1:57:23.787 --> 1:57:27.507 Kate Heffern in particular is playing really, really well and 1:57:27.747 --> 1:57:31.107 that is why she is retaining the center berth. Like 1:57:31.227 --> 1:57:34.667 some people have criticized Rouale of Buchanan playing wing defense 1:57:34.747 --> 1:57:37.467 when she hasn't played that why she hasn't really played 1:57:37.507 --> 1:57:40.227 that at all. Reason for that is because they want 1:57:40.347 --> 1:57:42.587 I believe it's because they want to keep the Burger 1:57:42.707 --> 1:57:47.227 Jackson combination in circle because that is also really firing up, 1:57:47.667 --> 1:57:50.427 and they really want to keep Kate Heffernon at center 1:57:50.587 --> 1:57:52.987 rather than putting a back to wing defense. And it's 1:57:53.027 --> 1:57:56.667 certainly working for them. My only concern is we still 1:57:56.787 --> 1:57:59.907 have a really great reliance on Grayson WICKI. 1:58:00.747 --> 1:58:02.867 Yeah, and I guess when you have Grace in the 1:58:02.907 --> 1:58:05.667 shooting circle, there must be that temptation evil mustn't there 1:58:05.787 --> 1:58:07.947 to trying, you know, to feed the bull to as 1:58:07.987 --> 1:58:11.227 often as possible. How ready will Jamaica be for that, though, 1:58:12.987 --> 1:58:13.387 That's what. 1:58:13.547 --> 1:58:15.627 That's the concern. That's to say worry, But I mean 1:58:15.667 --> 1:58:19.627 we wanted a really good final obviously, and I looked 1:58:19.627 --> 1:58:22.907 at Jamaica after that game and they were all over 1:58:23.027 --> 1:58:26.547 the place, and I was just wondering whether Jamaica feels 1:58:26.627 --> 1:58:29.827 that really has been their final, you know, and often 1:58:30.107 --> 1:58:33.027 it is really hard after such a tight game, and 1:58:33.267 --> 1:58:35.947 it was. It was a great game, you know, well 1:58:36.147 --> 1:58:39.787 in some people's eyes obviously, you know, whether they can 1:58:39.867 --> 1:58:43.547 come back and do it again against New Zealand. Now Jamaica, 1:58:43.787 --> 1:58:48.427 if they play to their full the ability and their strength. 1:58:48.707 --> 1:58:51.747 That is going to be a close encounter against New Zealand. 1:58:52.187 --> 1:58:56.467 Appreciate that the Jamaican defense they have come up against 1:58:56.507 --> 1:58:59.627 Grace and Wicki in the sun Corps Super League Super League, 1:58:59.707 --> 1:59:03.307 so in theory they should know what to expect, you know, 1:59:03.467 --> 1:59:06.627 from the New Zealand attacking end. So you know, it'll 1:59:06.667 --> 1:59:09.267 be really interesting to see. And my main thing is, 1:59:09.547 --> 1:59:12.387 you know, have Jamaica played their final already? 1:59:12.947 --> 1:59:16.467 Yeah, it's a very good point. What about New Zealand's trajectory, 1:59:16.507 --> 1:59:18.667 if we can call it that through the tournament? Ivan, 1:59:18.747 --> 1:59:20.947 have you seen them improve across the tournament? 1:59:21.867 --> 1:59:22.067 Yeah? 1:59:22.187 --> 1:59:24.827 Absolutely, I think initially I have a look at it 1:59:25.067 --> 1:59:29.307 and you're going whoa very hesitant they still, I believe 1:59:29.347 --> 1:59:32.067 on attack play the ball back too often. I think 1:59:32.107 --> 1:59:34.627 there are opportunities playing the ball forwards. And I'm not 1:59:34.787 --> 1:59:37.547 just talking about the big boment of Grayson Wicki. I 1:59:37.627 --> 1:59:41.667 think just on the whole players need to be available earlier. 1:59:41.707 --> 1:59:45.307 I think timing has been out, but certainly it's a progression. 1:59:45.587 --> 1:59:48.227 And are they ready for the final? I think they're 1:59:48.267 --> 1:59:51.267 as ready as they possibly can be. And even you know, 1:59:51.547 --> 1:59:55.507 Hall being injured and no disrespect to her, but she 1:59:55.667 --> 1:59:58.827 was always going to sit behind the Burger Jackson combination 1:59:59.027 --> 2:00:02.307 because that has in fact been grown with every game. 2:00:03.107 --> 2:00:05.667 But certainly, you know, yeah, even in that last game 2:00:05.907 --> 2:00:08.707 Kate and not just her attacking player but also her 2:00:08.787 --> 2:00:11.347 defensive play. You know, it was really brilliant for the 2:00:11.427 --> 2:00:15.187 Ferns and if they can reproduce that effort, it is 2:00:15.267 --> 2:00:18.707 going to be I'm expecting a close encounter. But obviously 2:00:19.107 --> 2:00:21.347 we're looking for in New Zealand. 2:00:21.067 --> 2:00:25.147 To gain the gold the Burger Jackson defensive pairing. How 2:00:25.227 --> 2:00:27.307 much of a solid base has that provided for this 2:00:27.427 --> 2:00:30.427 team and how crucial will they again be tonight? 2:00:31.227 --> 2:00:36.187 Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, because I think that Aiken is increasing 2:00:36.627 --> 2:00:38.867 in confidence, you know, the big timber in the back 2:00:39.187 --> 2:00:42.027 for Jamaica. She is increasing confidence and I thought she 2:00:42.147 --> 2:00:46.107 played well against Australia. So again it's a situation we'll 2:00:46.147 --> 2:00:46.907 be looking for the. 2:00:46.987 --> 2:00:47.827 Ball earlier on. 2:00:48.347 --> 2:00:51.547 But yeah, I think that you know, that combinations really 2:00:51.627 --> 2:00:55.107 works well probably in the sun Court Super League. Both 2:00:55.187 --> 2:00:59.667 those players I believe had a reasonably quiet season, although 2:00:59.747 --> 2:01:02.907 I think Jackson gained an award, some award for her 2:01:03.027 --> 2:01:06.587 Firebirds efforts. But yeah, I think that she's really come 2:01:06.627 --> 2:01:09.907 out and you know, I've probably been I'm not criticized them, 2:01:09.947 --> 2:01:13.467 but have certainly said on occasions that Jackson in particular 2:01:13.707 --> 2:01:16.667 isn't always what you call the sixty minute player like 2:01:16.787 --> 2:01:18.907 she you know, it takes time for her to come 2:01:18.947 --> 2:01:22.627 into the game. But against England, boy New Zealand set 2:01:22.667 --> 2:01:26.267 the tone. They have to do exactly the same. Against Jamaica. 2:01:26.627 --> 2:01:28.547 They've got to put and make sure that they've got 2:01:28.587 --> 2:01:31.987 a number of goals ahead of them so that Jamaica 2:01:32.147 --> 2:01:34.587 doesn't have the support of the crowd, and they will 2:01:34.867 --> 2:01:37.307 have quite a bit of support from the crowd because 2:01:37.347 --> 2:01:40.147 they always love the underdogs and obviously they would love 2:01:40.507 --> 2:01:41.987 for Jamaica to take this out. 2:01:42.667 --> 2:01:45.787 All right, great summary is always our Any problem is 2:01:45.867 --> 2:01:49.467 getting to midnight tonight New Zealand's time. I'm not preferring 2:01:49.507 --> 2:01:51.747 to Isaac klop Seed to path and I'm honest. 2:01:52.267 --> 2:01:54.387 Yeah, that's really interesting. I was going to be watching 2:01:54.467 --> 2:01:57.347 the game and it's not the same with the replayer. Normally, 2:01:57.427 --> 2:02:01.027 someone damnill tells you the results anyway. So yeah, but 2:02:01.187 --> 2:02:03.667 what a way to finish the com games really and 2:02:04.027 --> 2:02:07.107 three fair you know this is this is for netple 2:02:07.227 --> 2:02:10.027 like even like obviously we've had our lows during the 2:02:10.147 --> 2:02:13.307 season for the Silver Ferns, just to make the finals 2:02:13.387 --> 2:02:15.987 as a beggie, absolutely they haven't done it for quite 2:02:15.987 --> 2:02:18.107 a while, you know, but should they come out with 2:02:18.267 --> 2:02:21.827 goals and I'm not saying you forget about the problems 2:02:21.867 --> 2:02:24.987 within the country with a netle, but you know, it 2:02:25.187 --> 2:02:28.987 certainly is a slight icing out there. So they've worked 2:02:28.987 --> 2:02:31.347 hard for this, you know, as a whole group, not 2:02:31.547 --> 2:02:34.787 just the players but everyone else involved as well. So yep, 2:02:34.867 --> 2:02:37.947 if they can take another step up and really yeah, 2:02:37.987 --> 2:02:40.347 it's also to be fair interesting to see who the 2:02:40.547 --> 2:02:44.387 umpires are Australia and the Australian Jamaican came, they would 2:02:44.467 --> 2:02:45.507 not have been happy. 2:02:45.307 --> 2:02:46.107 With the umpires. 2:02:46.387 --> 2:02:49.827 Found it interesting that both umpires officiating were from New 2:02:49.947 --> 2:02:53.027 Zealand and normally you'd have like an English umpire and 2:02:53.107 --> 2:02:59.187 a New Zealand umpire. Appreciate now against against Jamaica, it'll 2:02:59.227 --> 2:03:02.507 probably be Australian umpires that we will get. But Bruce 2:03:02.627 --> 2:03:05.307 in the Australian game, I mean she was heavily penalized 2:03:05.507 --> 2:03:07.627 and in the end, in fact she was taken off. 2:03:07.787 --> 2:03:10.507 So will the umpires be involved in this game. 2:03:10.667 --> 2:03:11.227 I hope not. 2:03:11.827 --> 2:03:14.867 I hope that it doesn't become a totally physical encounter, 2:03:15.147 --> 2:03:17.507 and I hope we see some really skillful netball and 2:03:17.667 --> 2:03:19.907 really promote the game as it should be. 2:03:20.547 --> 2:03:22.707 I hope all of the same things, Yvonne, all of 2:03:22.747 --> 2:03:25.187 the same things. Great summary is always thanks for joining us. 2:03:25.547 --> 2:03:28.547 Enjoy the game tonight. That's Yvonn Willering previewing the gold 2:03:28.627 --> 2:03:31.267 medal match at the Commonwealth Games, the Silver Ferns up 2:03:31.267 --> 2:03:35.107 against Jamaica from midnight tonight seven and after three News 2:03:35.147 --> 2:03:35.627 Talks V. 2:03:36.307 --> 2:03:40.427 The biggest names in sport are here Weekend Sport with 2:03:40.747 --> 2:03:42.707 Jason Vine, News Talks EDB. 2:03:43.147 --> 2:03:44.867 Coming up four to three. That will do us as 2:03:44.907 --> 2:03:48.147 well as our netball is track, cycling, judo and bowls 2:03:48.187 --> 2:03:50.827 on the final day of the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, so 2:03:50.987 --> 2:03:54.707 more medals hopefully up for grabs in those sports. Thanks 2:03:54.747 --> 2:03:57.707 for listening in this afternoon. Really appreciate you spending some 2:03:57.827 --> 2:04:00.747 time with us. Massive thanks to Andy McDonnell for producing 2:04:00.907 --> 2:04:02.827 is always great work over the last couple of days. 2:04:02.827 --> 2:04:02.987 Mate. 2:04:03.067 --> 2:04:06.067 Enjoy some sunshine this afternoon. If in fact there is 2:04:06.067 --> 2:04:09.267 any in Auckland plenty in Wellington, I can report Anyway, 2:04:09.427 --> 2:04:12.467 enough of that. Our out song today, our exit song, 2:04:12.827 --> 2:04:16.507 silver Phone's playing Jamaica, which is where Uncle John is from. 2:04:16.947 --> 2:04:19.947 According to the song from the Vinger Boys, We'll see 2:04:19.987 --> 2:04:43.987 tomorrow night on sports Talk by Now, Uncle. 2:04:43.947 --> 2:04:48.147 John from Jamaica keeps song calling every day to buy 2:04:48.267 --> 2:04:52.067 a tick, get a tack, a summer holly holiday. 2:04:53.587 --> 2:04:56.747 For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live 2:04:56.867 --> 2:05:00.147 to news Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow 2:05:00.227 --> 2:05:01.787 the podcast on iHeartRadio