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Speaker 4: The All Blacks have arrived in South Africa for the
Speaker 4: highly anticipated Greatest Rivalry Tour. Around five thousand fans attended
Speaker 4: an open event at DHL Stadium in Cape Town, where
Speaker 4: the All Blacks will begin the tour against the Stormers
Speaker 4: next weekend. Great pleasure to welcome in one of South
Speaker 4: Africa's most experienced and respected rugby reporters and analysts and
Speaker 4: longtime observer of the spring Box, Brendan Nell. Thanks for
Speaker 4: joining us, Brendan. Does the arrival of the All Blacks
Speaker 4: still generate a different level of excitement compared to other
Speaker 4: touring teams.
Speaker 6: Well, definitely.
Speaker 3: I think the only other team that comes close is
Speaker 3: probably the British and Irish Lions when they when they tore,
Speaker 3: and that's so seldom anyway. Yeah, I think there's always
Speaker 3: a buzz around the All Blacks in South Africa, and
Speaker 3: just as there's in I'm sure in New Zealand with
Speaker 3: the spring Boxer there, but especially ahead of a tour
Speaker 3: like this because yeah, I was, I was chatting to
Speaker 3: somebody the other day. Nineteen ninety six was my first
Speaker 3: tour as a rugulay writer, and it's just it's bizarre
Speaker 3: to think it's been thirty years since there's been a
Speaker 3: proper tour. So yeah, there's a lot of excitement about
Speaker 3: that going around in the next couple of weeks. And
Speaker 3: I think it's even just now that the All Blacks
Speaker 3: a years can just get bigger.
Speaker 4: South Abreger of one, five of the last sixtiest between
Speaker 4: the two nations. Despite that, is there still an overriding
Speaker 4: feeling that you can never take the All Blacks lightly?
Speaker 6: Well, I think so.
Speaker 3: I mean I always remember when, I mean when the
Speaker 3: All Blacks were so dominant back in was that fifty
Speaker 3: seven mill at Albany that that that horror day that
Speaker 3: we had. Yeah, two weeks later it was in Cape
Speaker 3: Town and was a one point game.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think the spring Box there's so much respect.
Speaker 3: Between the two sides that they know that the All
Speaker 3: Blacks on the one side that can lift themselves.
Speaker 6: We saw in the World Cup, I mean, gaining that final.
Speaker 3: Everybody thought the spring Box were one song They're going
Speaker 3: to win it, Yeah, and the All Blacks made it
Speaker 3: an extremely difficult game which the spring Boks are probably.
Speaker 6: Lucky to get away with it.
Speaker 3: Then there then went on for another ten minutes it
Speaker 3: may have been a different result.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you're never safe against the All Blacks.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's always a game where there's probably less
Speaker 3: than less than a try in it normally. And yes,
Speaker 3: I think South Africans respect the All Blacks a lots
Speaker 3: and we're looking forward to this challenge because things have
Speaker 3: been going very well for the Box at the moment,
Speaker 3: but we know the one team that can give us
Speaker 3: a lot of problems are the All Blacks.
Speaker 4: Well, the other layer to this, of course, is that
Speaker 4: the All Blacks come into this series under a relatively
Speaker 4: new coaching team lead by Dave Rennie and after wins
Speaker 4: in July and the Nation's championship against France, Italyan Ireland,
Speaker 4: have those performances set and those results caught the attention
Speaker 4: of rightb people in South Africa.
Speaker 6: Well, I think it.
Speaker 3: Has because for a couple of reasons, you know, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 3: sitting on the side of the world, we're not always
Speaker 3: privy to what happened with Raiser and behind the scenes there.
Speaker 3: We've heard a lot of stories obviously, but yeah, we
Speaker 3: always felt it was a bit harsh on Raiser because almost, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was almost like Heinekameyer when the All Blacks were
Speaker 3: so dominant twenty eleven, twenty fifteen. It doesn't matter how
Speaker 3: good a coach you are, when you've got a team
Speaker 3: that's that dominant, you're always going to your results are
Speaker 3: always going.
Speaker 6: To look a bit chevvy. So I felt for.
Speaker 3: Raising a bit because this is a very dominant era
Speaker 3: for the spring Box. But what Dave Renny has brought
Speaker 3: is is we can see the All Blacks playing with
Speaker 3: a purpose, with a lot more a lot more direct,
Speaker 3: and a lot more the All Blacks of all that
Speaker 3: we've seen as well, so very much the DNA of
Speaker 3: the All Blacks that we've seen in the past.
Speaker 6: So I think I think the other thing.
Speaker 3: As well is well, we're also vary is because Dave
Speaker 3: Renny might have had a terrible record at the Wallabies.
Speaker 3: I think it's thirty eight percent record, but against South
Speaker 3: Africa and that period, winners at the wallabasy one three
Speaker 3: out of four. Now, I mean there's always asterix and
Speaker 3: there's a couple of the things you can say woul
Speaker 3: happened in each game, but still that's a good record
Speaker 3: against Russian russemus.
Speaker 6: I don't think there are many coaches.
Speaker 3: In world rugby that have their record against Russi as well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's also another reason that the Box are
Speaker 3: taking this very seriously.
Speaker 6: This is the biggest test for then this year. Russy
Speaker 6: got a bit of blowback when you.
Speaker 3: Said the Nations Championship wasn't that big, because this is
Speaker 3: the big thing this year and I think we all
Speaker 3: feel that way.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's talk about South Africa, then world's
Speaker 4: number one ranked team, back to back World Cup winners.
Speaker 4: They comfortably won all three of their Nations Championship matches
Speaker 4: in July. You've seen a lot of All Blacks and
Speaker 4: South African rugby matches, Brendan. How does the South African side?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: Is this among the best South African sides you've seen?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 6: In my time, it's certainly the best spring Box side.
Speaker 3: I'm not one who likes comparing eras because I feel,
Speaker 3: you know, the game changes. If you look at the
Speaker 3: games twenty thirty years ago, they look very different than
Speaker 3: the games played now. Yeah, but The only team I
Speaker 3: can really compare it to in this area is probably
Speaker 3: that two thousand and seven team of Victor Matfield, BUCkies,
Speaker 3: bether John Smith, those Brian Habana, those type of guys,
Speaker 3: and the difference between this team and that team is
Speaker 3: this team's been dominant between World Cups. The South Africans
Speaker 3: then have at times slipped between World Cups and their
Speaker 3: standards and the depth in this team is incredible at
Speaker 3: the moment. I think we saw it in last year
Speaker 3: when they turned New Zealand. We saw after Eden Park
Speaker 3: that almost changed the entire team, and then they had
Speaker 3: a huge winning Wellington and they had a point luckily
Speaker 3: all Extreen twenty eleven, twenty fifteen that they could almost
Speaker 3: feel two separate teams.
Speaker 6: We saw the sere in the Nations Championship.
Speaker 3: They made I think eleven changes against Scotland and still
Speaker 3: won that game quite comfortably at the end.
Speaker 6: So they're in a very good spot at the moment.
Speaker 3: There's a lots of competition in the team and there's
Speaker 3: a host of youngsters. South Africa is also back to
Speaker 3: back Junior World champions and you know there's a host
Speaker 3: of host of those guys coming through pushing for places
Speaker 3: and hopefully for the next World Cup.
Speaker 4: We're just on that depth and the number of quality
Speaker 4: players that Rascia Erasmus now has to select from that
Speaker 4: must also be a challenge for him because everybody wants
Speaker 4: to play, but not everybody can. So how has Racia
Speaker 4: Erasmus managed his side with so much depth, and of
Speaker 4: course the young players coming through as well.
Speaker 6: I think it's it's probably it's going to sound like
Speaker 6: a hell of a ciche that.
Speaker 3: I mean the year at a lot in New Zealand
Speaker 3: as well about you only you only you've only wearing
Speaker 3: that jersey for a while. You know you're keeping it
Speaker 3: warm for the next guy, You're keeping the legacy going.
Speaker 3: And it's very much that I think Russi's will say
Speaker 3: brutally direct at times. Anybody who's seen Chasing the Sun,
Speaker 3: that famous scene where he said to cause is not
Speaker 3: the most important thing in South Africa and and you
Speaker 3: think a captain as iconic as here and somebody is saying.
Speaker 6: That to him, only Russi would be able to do that.
Speaker 6: So I think also what happens is.
Speaker 3: They've got to a point where the training sessions are
Speaker 3: test match intensity and there's a very honest approach with
Speaker 3: saying that some of these double World Cup winners are
Speaker 3: reaching the end of the thing. If they can still
Speaker 3: handle the training sessions, and they can still handle the
Speaker 3: youngsters in those training sessions, then.
Speaker 6: They'll be fine to play tests.
Speaker 3: But we've already seen a couple of guys bombing and
Speaker 3: the numbie Fifter Clark cars like that we didn't think
Speaker 3: would fall by the way, so so quickly who have
Speaker 3: so early?
Speaker 6: As we go along, we'll see that.
Speaker 3: And at the moment he's going to squad of I
Speaker 3: think forty three plus a couple of probably around fifty players.
Speaker 3: He's going to cut a hold of those before we
Speaker 3: go to the World Cup. So there's going to be
Speaker 3: some guys before, by the way.
Speaker 4: So all right, Brennan, well, please give us here in
Speaker 4: New Zealand some hope.
Speaker 7: Can you?
Speaker 4: Are there any weaknesses in the South African side, all
Speaker 4: areas that all Blacks might look to exploit?
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think the one thing that this
Speaker 3: book team has shown, the one difference to this team,
Speaker 3: and that's why I've heard so pundits in the last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks saying you've got to run the spring
Speaker 3: Box off their feet and and so makes All Blacks
Speaker 3: saying things like that, this team with Tony Brown is
Speaker 3: probably a spring box team, will probably run you off
Speaker 3: your feet a lot quicker than you will. Then they
Speaker 3: extremely fit. Yeah, they like playing the expensive game. They
Speaker 3: still got the physicality, they still got the scrub.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 3: I think what the All Blacks need to do is
Speaker 3: obviously match that physicality. I think that's any team who
Speaker 3: plays the spring box. That's no state secret that. But
Speaker 3: the All Blacks have X factor in their back line.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they've got some great players who can rip
Speaker 3: a game open.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And and I think South Africa's biggest thing is you
Speaker 3: can't let the All Blacks get a start.
Speaker 6: You can't.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a fight to the end and
Speaker 3: you've got to be in that game for any minutes.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Russie's team is going to be very interesting
Speaker 3: because we're playing against Argentina now in the next week.
Speaker 3: It's just before we play the All Blacks, and that's
Speaker 3: to give a bunch of the returning guys a chance
Speaker 3: to play.
Speaker 6: But the team that the twenty he's going to pick
Speaker 6: for the test, there's going.
Speaker 3: To be the team that's going to beat the All
Speaker 3: Blacks in his mind, and there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: of competition for that.
Speaker 6: So to me, rugby ball, you know, I always say
Speaker 6: to people, well the Welsh. I was on BBC Wales before.
Speaker 3: The Wells Test and they asked me the same thing,
Speaker 3: give us some hope and it's hard with Wales and
Speaker 3: where the state they are. And all I said to
Speaker 3: them was, you know, rugby ball bounces. You just need
Speaker 3: to have one wrong balance, one ball go into one
Speaker 3: player's hands and it changes the dynamic of a game.
Speaker 3: We've seen itself. And the All Blacks are not Wales.
Speaker 3: They are much much better team and the spring Boks
Speaker 3: know that they respect that.
Speaker 6: So I think the.
Speaker 3: Biggest factor for me in this test series is probably
Speaker 3: going to be the four back.
Speaker 6: To back tests. These games are incredibly physical.
Speaker 3: Modern rugby players haven't played four back to back tests
Speaker 3: other than on in November too, and usually there's some
Speaker 3: tests that's a bit lighter in those tests than they are.
Speaker 3: But these four intensely physical tests are going to take
Speaker 3: a toll and I think that's where squad depth is
Speaker 3: in the coming So it's going to be very important
Speaker 3: the team that's gonna be left standing by the time
Speaker 3: they get to Baltimore is going to be the team
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna win it.
Speaker 4: That'saw a really interesting tweet from you during the week, Brendon,
Speaker 4: and you said, I know people have the right to
Speaker 4: support whoever they want, but given everything Racy and see
Speaker 4: as Box have achieved and what they mean for the
Speaker 4: majority of this country, it's still astounds me to see
Speaker 4: many South Africans support another country against their own. In
Speaker 4: the past, understandable, but not now. That's what you tweeted out.
Speaker 4: So we know how much South African rugby fans respect
Speaker 4: the all blacks and love the all blacks. Is there
Speaker 4: still a deep affection for the all blacks in parts
Speaker 4: of South Africa.
Speaker 6: I think there's two different things.
Speaker 3: When I was addressing those tweets said, we saw a
Speaker 3: bunch of all black fans turn up in Cape Town,
Speaker 3: and there's always been a lot of support historically because
Speaker 3: of a part time, because of the exclusion of a
Speaker 3: large part of our population. At a lot of fans
Speaker 3: supported the opposing team against the spring Box for good reason.
Speaker 3: I just think we you know, with thirty years on
Speaker 3: more than thirty years on now. The people that they
Speaker 3: were there yesterday weren't born, but we know all that happened.
Speaker 3: And I think more than that, this Springbok team at
Speaker 3: the moment probably represents the country more than any Springbok
Speaker 3: team I've ever seen. It's taken the whole concept of
Speaker 3: race out of the discussion around the spring box, which
Speaker 3: always was there.
Speaker 6: We used to have talk about quotas and things like that.
Speaker 6: That's all by the way.
Speaker 3: So every player that's in that team now at the
Speaker 3: moment is there on merit and has been X fact
Speaker 3: and would probably walk into most world teams as well.
Speaker 3: So I feel for that, and well I would see
Speaker 3: that and Russia I have done with this team has
Speaker 3: probably done a lot more for South African politics, sha say,
Speaker 3: or race relations than anything anything of politicians done.
Speaker 6: So to me, you still see.
Speaker 3: South African fans supporting the all blacks, I don't quite
Speaker 3: understand it. To each day own you can support whoever
Speaker 3: you want to at the end of the day, I
Speaker 3: don't understand it, and I think that's what I was
Speaker 3: pointing out. I think just generally that crowd which was
Speaker 3: four or five thousand yesterday, twenty years, fifteen years ago
Speaker 3: will probably fifteen or twenty thousand, so I think that's changed.
Speaker 6: It's getting smaller.
Speaker 3: But on the other the rest of the country in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety percent of the country I think respects the
Speaker 3: All Blacks in terms of we love the rugby, we
Speaker 3: love the culture, we love the rivalry.
Speaker 6: But I mean, at the end of the day, we
Speaker 6: still want to smash your guys, and I think that's
Speaker 6: what it comes down to. It's exactly the same on YOURSLFE.
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely it is. Well, let's talk about the series
Speaker 4: to finish. We've been talking a lot over here about
Speaker 4: what might happen in these four test matches in particular,
Speaker 4: and what would be a good result and acceptable result
Speaker 4: for us in terms of series, and there seems to
Speaker 4: be a bit of a consensus that if we were
Speaker 4: able to square the series against the number one team
Speaker 4: in the world, that would be a good result. What
Speaker 4: about from your point of view, Brendan, would too, too
Speaker 4: be considered a failure for South Africa.
Speaker 6: That's a good question. I'm not quite sure. I mean,
Speaker 6: obviously I think the spring Box would probably want to
Speaker 6: win for NOLA.
Speaker 3: I mean that if you ask them, But I think,
Speaker 3: as I say, back to back tests and the way
Speaker 3: I've seen I mean, that's the one thing we don't
Speaker 3: have anymore in modern rugby when we used to have
Speaker 3: the three test series, and the last couple of years
Speaker 3: we've seen how teams have adapted from the first test
Speaker 3: to the second test. So I think the box know
Speaker 3: this challenge is going to be very real. So I
Speaker 3: wouldn't personally say it's a failure. It depends on how
Speaker 3: those defeats are and how those you know, if there's
Speaker 3: a blowout, I think it will be seen as a failure.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's so much pride in the Springbok team.
Speaker 3: I think these games are all going to go down
Speaker 3: to the y and at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: you just hope you're on the right side of it.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 3: I think South African fans don't. I won't say mind
Speaker 3: losing the All Blacks. I think they understand it a
Speaker 3: lot more. We just don't want to see a fifty
Speaker 3: seven nolar like we saw in Albany. I think that
Speaker 3: was the low point for US all, probably even lower
Speaker 3: than losing to Japan at the World Cup, which I
Speaker 3: was also at. I mean that one just it was, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a horrible day, but that fifty seven and
Speaker 3: they still sticks, sticks in your brain the whole time,
Speaker 3: just like I'm sure Wellington does last year, because that
Speaker 3: was a superb performance by the spring Box. And yeah,
Speaker 3: so I think I think to too it probably would.
Speaker 3: It would be seemed like a too two draw. It
Speaker 3: wouldn't be seen as favorable or unfavorable. But I think
Speaker 3: they'd win it, win all forward.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the forty three to ten still sticks to us,
Speaker 4: sticks in our minds. Brendan, I can assure you of that.
Speaker 4: That's a bit more recent than the fifty seven nil
Speaker 4: at Albany, over a decade or so ago. Now, great
Speaker 4: to chat to you. Thanks for painting a picture for
Speaker 4: us from a South African point of view. Whatever happens
Speaker 4: over the next couple of weeks or so, a couple
Speaker 4: of months or so, I really hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. I must
Speaker 6: have been ninety six was a blast.
Speaker 3: I don't think I appreciated it because I was very
Speaker 3: young as a journal But this one I'm really looking
Speaker 3: forward to.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So awee, Brendan saw We Thanks for joining us, mate, Brendan.
Speaker 4: Now there out of South Africa with his thoughts on
Speaker 4: this upcoming series. I just I feel though if I
Speaker 4: was South African, I'd be supremely confident. I'd look at
Speaker 4: my team and go, you know what, we're the best
Speaker 4: team in the world. We're playing at home against a
Speaker 4: team with a new coaching staff who we've beaten in
Speaker 4: five of the last six Test matches, including forty three
Speaker 4: ten in New Zealand the last time we locked horns.
Speaker 4: So they, I guess, are right to be confident. But
Speaker 4: that just makes me want to beat them more.
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 4: Even listening to Brendan there and heck of a nice guy.
Speaker 4: I love them, But you can South Africans think they're
Speaker 4: going to beat us four nil. That's what they think.
Speaker 4: What do you reckon? I mean, we've sort of been
Speaker 4: over and over this kind of you know what would
Speaker 4: be a successful series score and that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: We've had that conversation. You could add to it if
Speaker 4: you want to, But I just now want to beat
Speaker 4: them more than ever. I will say, keen to hear
Speaker 4: from you if you have followed the All Blacks two
Speaker 4: South Africa. Nick Roland from Sports, Travel and Hospitality Group
Speaker 4: going to join us before one to give us some
Speaker 4: insight into how many New Zealand fans are traveling for
Speaker 4: this tour. But were you there in nineteen ninety five
Speaker 4: for the Rugby World Cup or in nineteen ninety six
Speaker 4: when the All Blacks last embarked on a full tour
Speaker 4: of South Africa really came to hear his stories? If
Speaker 4: you were, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty on that
Speaker 4: or any aspect of the upcoming tour which begins next
Speaker 4: Saturday morning against the Stormers in Cape Town, lines are
Speaker 4: open on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Anthony, Good afternoon.
Speaker 8: Good afternoon, made hwaa very good, Thank you hey mane. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I've just listened to your previous call, and I guess
Speaker 8: it's probably a journal a journalist, and it is so
Speaker 8: easy for people to talk about these thirty years have
Speaker 8: gone and why haven't people moved on? You know what, Piny,
Speaker 8: just a couple of years ago, I took my four
Speaker 8: or five years ago, they had this Smatfield guy who
Speaker 8: absolutely and relating to Damien vallenca about him not being
Speaker 8: a springbog worse a springbok jersey. You know, we had
Speaker 8: a guy the name of Ashmund Willemser, who was absolutely
Speaker 8: banned to Siberia after he criticized to a part that
Speaker 8: fossils I would call him Nasburta and Nick Mallet, you know,
Speaker 8: and and and and and So when you see those
Speaker 8: four five thousand people at Cape Down Stadium, uh, you know,
Speaker 8: showing their support for the or Blacks, I can understand
Speaker 8: what people say about thirty years ago. Uh we we
Speaker 8: got uh we had uh a political freedom of got
Speaker 8: political freedom but conveniently forgeed but conveniently.
Speaker 9: Forgetting that.
Speaker 8: During all that time, it was a struggle for us
Speaker 8: to get acknowledgement you know from South African media specifically
Speaker 8: Uh that we uh, I mean the old quota system,
Speaker 8: which was a hated word in our community. You know,
Speaker 8: it took us years to to sort of like show
Speaker 8: that we actually belong there. And uh and then when
Speaker 8: you see the fort four thousand people at Cape Down
Speaker 8: Stadium the other day, Uh, this is just a manifestation
Speaker 8: of all of that. I mean, I can go back
Speaker 8: three four hundred years you know, of struggle. But that's
Speaker 8: not uh this conversation. But it is important to note
Speaker 8: that to this day, we still have to show every
Speaker 8: single game you know, have you have your your Assuan
Speaker 8: Vudums and those guys, and you have your Chase in Kolby.
Speaker 8: They have to show every single game that they belong
Speaker 8: there or the medium will just adverbly rip into them.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: So we still have this thing, and then people talked
Speaker 8: about thirty years ago we should forget about it. I
Speaker 8: think it is pretty a rich of people just to
Speaker 8: say that without knowing the history of the sport.
Speaker 4: Good points. Well, mate, Anthonay, So how long have you
Speaker 4: lived in New Zealand?
Speaker 8: Oh, best part of three years, you know. Uh And
Speaker 8: and and look, I come from from the non racial
Speaker 8: sporting fraternity, the old secos of fraternity, which is South
Speaker 8: African councilor on Sport. And you know, we had these
Speaker 8: kind of players like like Jesslad and those for players
Speaker 8: for decades or the only thing was that we could
Speaker 8: not represent the country of our birth and and and
Speaker 8: and so it's really really annoying. It's really frustrating, you know,
Speaker 8: like like like the medium, the majority of the media
Speaker 8: don't actually try to even talk to people who could
Speaker 8: come from from that era where we had all these
Speaker 8: players you know that could have easily walked into a
Speaker 8: Springbok team.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 8: And then of course the media also like trying to
Speaker 8: bash us for for with even everdation all black teams
Speaker 8: specifically or New Zealand team playing there that we still
Speaker 8: supporting in the New Zealanders. You know, I'm sure majority
Speaker 8: of US wants to move on, but the media and
Speaker 8: and and and a large majority of of of white
Speaker 8: son Africans do not allow us to move on. So
Speaker 8: I look, I don't blame those people at all. I
Speaker 8: give Rush all the credit that I uh that I
Speaker 8: can get a fantastic job into to see what what
Speaker 8: what our boys can do now. And I just look
Speaker 8: at the Common World Games, how well our people have
Speaker 8: have have done at the Common World Games. But it
Speaker 8: is just that that the specifically the wide meetings of
Speaker 8: every gay they need someone to hate. And I can
Speaker 8: tell you one thing, if someone like Sasha or Money
Speaker 8: Lobos do something wrong, you will hear about this forever.
Speaker 4: In a day interesting and sorrh Anthony, thanks for calling
Speaker 4: in mate. I hope you enjoy the series on the field,
Speaker 4: but thanks for giving us your thoughts. I'm really and yeah,
Speaker 4: eloquently I appreciate your call mate. Thanks to day Drive
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Speaker 4: Dogs they'd be twenty seven aiy from on Pontier. I
Speaker 4: thought there was a bit of a defensive response from
Speaker 4: Brendan Nell about the crowd at Cape Town, says Mike,
Speaker 4: saying that the few years ago it would have been
Speaker 4: fifteen and not the five that turned out. To me,
Speaker 4: that's his fear, fear of losing, looking for a scapegoat.
Speaker 4: Fun Times Ahead, says Mike. Yeah, love it, Mike, thanks,
Speaker 4: mighte appreciate it? Alan, you were there in ninety six.
Speaker 9: I was, indeed, I was lucky enough to be there.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: There was a group of twenty of us, ten miles,
Speaker 9: ten females went on a private tour. We were part
Speaker 9: of a club that had equivalents over there, not a
Speaker 9: rugby club, a service club, and we had equivalents over
Speaker 9: there and they home hosted us. So we went to
Speaker 9: all the games and by enduring memories apart from the
Speaker 9: rugby which of course was fabulous apart from the last Test,
Speaker 9: but never mind, we won the series. But two of
Speaker 9: my enduring memories were the very first game we went
Speaker 9: to was against Bowland. I seem to recall it was
Speaker 9: a midweek game. We arrived there a bit late, and
Speaker 9: as such I didn't get to get a seat in
Speaker 9: the stand that was chocer block, so I watched it
Speaker 9: standing on the stea way up into the stand, and
Speaker 9: there was a colored boy standing beside me, and I
Speaker 9: don't think we spoke as such, but we both enjoyed
Speaker 9: the first half together. Then at halftime, he turned and
Speaker 9: looked up into the green stand at the seated people,
Speaker 9: and there were the off duty All Blacks, mainly Test players,
Speaker 9: sitting in a cluster up in the stand. And he
Speaker 9: looked and he said out loud to himself, but anybody
Speaker 9: who could hear him, I'm sorry it someday, but he said,
Speaker 9: Jesus Christ Jolna longel Jesus Christ Jolna lol, and with it,
Speaker 9: and with that I said to him, would you like
Speaker 9: to go up into the stand, Because apart I'd had
Speaker 9: finished technically, but it was still pretty strong in some ways.
Speaker 9: So the pair of us went up there together and
Speaker 9: although we didn't actually get to talk to the non
Speaker 9: playing all Blacks, he got so much closer than he
Speaker 9: could have reached out and touched them, and I think
Speaker 9: that made his day to be able to see John
Speaker 9: who Jonah up.
Speaker 4: Close and so real, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 9: But the other memory I have is one of on
Speaker 9: our flight from Port Elizabeth to Durban the midweek game
Speaker 9: and Port Elizabeth and the first test of the series,
Speaker 9: the second test actually, but the first test of the series.
Speaker 9: Who were flying to that and the plane had only
Speaker 9: just taken off and someone down the backs and Kiwis
Speaker 9: down the back sung the New Zealand National NA. Nothing
Speaker 9: to do with our group who was sort of towards
Speaker 9: the front of the plane. But the team leader said
Speaker 9: to me, you learned to do the harker, because I
Speaker 9: told everybody they had to learn the harker. But you're
Speaker 9: the only one who did get up and do the harker.
Speaker 9: I don't do the harker and the plane get up
Speaker 9: and do the harker, he said, so part we're all parts,
Speaker 9: and most moray cringe at my version of the harker.
Speaker 9: But anyway, I get up into the aisle of the plane,
Speaker 9: and I do this fault on Harker almost the standing
Speaker 9: ovation when I went to sit down, modesty preventually saying
Speaker 9: it was a full standing ovation. But anyway, I went
Speaker 9: to sit down, and a hostess came up behind me
Speaker 9: and very sternly tapped me on the shoulder, and I
Speaker 9: turned around to see her stern face and her finger
Speaker 9: wagging at me, and she said, listen, listen. They did
Speaker 9: not see that in business class. Would you go up
Speaker 9: there and do it again?
Speaker 4: Had?
Speaker 9: I said, listen, listen, I'm sorry, but there's only one
Speaker 9: Harker in me per day. I'm sorry. I could not
Speaker 9: do another one. So that in the Colored Boy two
Speaker 9: of my Enduring Rugby Memories of South Africa ninety six,
Speaker 9: and what a tour it was. You know, we were
Speaker 9: spot rotten. We were originally going to go in ninety five,
Speaker 9: but the organizer found it was becoming extremely difficult to
Speaker 9: get tickets and at what costs. So our South African
Speaker 9: connection said, look, don't come ninety five. Come ninety six.
Speaker 9: You'll be on your own. You'll be treated like God's
Speaker 9: being supporting the all blacks. Come then, and we'll really
Speaker 9: look after you. And it was the best decision we
Speaker 9: could have made. It was just the most fabulous tour.
Speaker 9: And you know, all the troubles in South Africa. I
Speaker 9: never saw so much as two people having an argument
Speaker 9: in the six weeks we were there. We were lucky,
Speaker 9: I guess, because everybody had a story to tell. All
Speaker 9: the South Africans had a story to tell about. Let's
Speaker 9: call it the troubles, almost like a Northern Ireland, but
Speaker 9: the troubles. And you go to a dinner party or whatever,
Speaker 9: and the South Africans would have had a brief before
Speaker 9: we arrive.
Speaker 12: We will not talk.
Speaker 9: About the problems. The kiwis are coming is going to
Speaker 9: be lighthearted. And that's how it was for about the
Speaker 9: first three minutes of any dinner pardy, but slowly but
Speaker 9: surely the conversation would get ground to the difficulties of
Speaker 9: living there at the time, and they were hopeful that
Speaker 9: things would improve. And I'm sure they have. And I
Speaker 9: said to our tour leader the other day, you know,
Speaker 9: we've missed a trick here. We should have been on
Speaker 9: this to thirty years to the day, virtually since we
Speaker 9: were there, and we should have gone again.
Speaker 4: So Ellen, Ellen, brilliant Thank you so much, mate. I
Speaker 4: just wish phones that had cameras had been around at
Speaker 4: the time to capture your hauker and both economy and
Speaker 4: business class mate, you could have dined out for years
Speaker 4: on that footage. But oh you told it so well, mate, brilliant.
Speaker 4: Thanks for calling in Allan. Hope you enjoy the month
Speaker 4: ahead even from the side of the world. Barry, you
Speaker 4: were there in ninety five for the World Cup.
Speaker 13: I was there in ninety five for the World Cup. Yeah,
Speaker 13: this group of us from the Keviedy case forty versuen
Speaker 13: over and we're there for a month and so we
Speaker 13: did basically the whole time.
Speaker 4: What was the enduring memory? What are you remember? I mean,
Speaker 4: obviously some fantastic games to fine or notwithstanding the were
Speaker 4: you at Ellis Park for the final?
Speaker 6: You were?
Speaker 13: Certainly We're at Allis Park in the final and the
Speaker 13: jam jam packed in that stand, which is it's just
Speaker 13: so steep and so imposing. With that plane that came over,
Speaker 13: no one could believe, you know, no one could believe
Speaker 13: what's happening. He was shown on the big screen. Is
Speaker 13: to get the plane coming. Knew it was coming, but
Speaker 13: never thought that they would sort of drop it into
Speaker 13: the stadium the way that they did, and as it
Speaker 13: roared out, it's just total silence. They were looking at
Speaker 13: themselves and what the hell was at And that came
Speaker 13: for a second time, and there's a big sure we
Speaker 13: all went up the second time and it went through. Yeah,
Speaker 13: that was the injuring memory of the final But my
Speaker 13: enduring memories a week before when we're in Cape Town
Speaker 13: with all those poems, so we're so confident what they
Speaker 13: were going to do to do the All Blacks that
Speaker 13: day and you know it's done and dusted in the
Speaker 13: first five minutes.
Speaker 4: Did you get a good view of Did you get
Speaker 4: a good view of Jonah running over the top of
Speaker 4: Mike Cat.
Speaker 13: It was right in front of us the keywi is
Speaker 13: there about I guess two or three hundred of us
Speaker 13: down in one corner And it was right in that
Speaker 13: corner that he scored the try And it was right
Speaker 13: in that corner Josh Cromfeld scored five minutes later, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: we couldn't got a bit of you for the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 13: And the other enduring memory is we actually got to
Speaker 13: got told takeout boots. I was one of the younger
Speaker 13: guys on that tour. I was in my mid forties
Speaker 13: and we paid.
Speaker 11: We played a game.
Speaker 13: It's for sure your first game I've ever played under
Speaker 13: lights and we played against the smoke called team that
Speaker 13: came out, So I think that's or playing the All Blacks.
Speaker 13: Our age would have been in the fifties. The are
Speaker 13: everage age was probably twenty three and under and twenty
Speaker 13: kgs and these came these guys came out. They really
Speaker 13: meant business and fortunately for us, the lights failed, so
Speaker 13: we hit the bar very quickly. They were frankly get
Speaker 13: the lights back on again.
Speaker 9: There's no way we were going to leave the bar.
Speaker 13: And so there was my debut game in South Africa
Speaker 13: as well.
Speaker 4: So when you say when you say the lights failed,
Speaker 4: it wasn't anything to do with one of your party
Speaker 4: sort of sneaking around the mack and unplugging the unplugging
Speaker 4: the lead by any chance.
Speaker 13: We weren't smart enough to do that, but we were
Speaker 13: smart enough to get out on the padict we had nowhere.
Speaker 13: We were smart enough to turn anything off.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was a very special trip where it was
Speaker 13: were catered so well, it's a private trip back in
Speaker 13: the days of ninety We did in ninety nine as
Speaker 13: well for the UK when you could actually buy tickets,
Speaker 13: and then in two thousand and three it came the ballot,
Speaker 13: so you had difficulties in getting tickets and you had
Speaker 13: to use a big tour companies after that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 13: a private tour that we did. And one of the
Speaker 13: guys had a contact in South Africa in the travel
Speaker 13: industry and he's set up this magnet. Everything outside of
Speaker 13: the rugby was just so good as well, because you
Speaker 13: know he had your weekly games. But the other one
Speaker 13: that's defining on that one that a lot of people
Speaker 13: remember is that South Africa probably shouldn't.
Speaker 7: Have been in the final.
Speaker 13: He swear that the game in Durban with the well
Speaker 13: the woman was sweeping the pitch when it was absolutely
Speaker 13: pelting down with the rain that was flooded, the game
Speaker 13: got delayed by a couple of hours and the French
Speaker 13: number eight scored a clear try. Bevan was the referee
Speaker 13: didn't give it and was it lou late that them
Speaker 13: with the gold watch afterwards? Yes, yes, And that's truvusly
Speaker 13: because it was so clear to everyone in the stadium
Speaker 13: that got scored. But the only one didn't see it
Speaker 13: was was the referee. Yeah Shaw Deans and ninetyen oh five.
Speaker 4: I guess oh, I guess so very At least they
Speaker 4: gave you Allis Park and the memories from that day,
Speaker 4: even if they were slightly colored by the fact that
Speaker 4: we didn't win the game. Hey, thanks Barry, appreciate you
Speaker 4: calling some great stories from you as well. So pleased
Speaker 4: you were there to see Jonah run over the top
Speaker 4: of Mike Cat up close with all of those confident
Speaker 4: Englishmen soon becoming slightly less confident. Good to hear from you, mate.
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Speaker 4: They'd be thirteen away from one talking the spring box
Speaker 4: all blacks and being there. John were there in nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy six.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we were doing our oe and
Speaker 14: we were there was a group of us were in
Speaker 14: England and we decided to go down and do the
Speaker 14: tour of South Africa. I can't remember exactly, but it
Speaker 14: was twenty odd games and it was over three months
Speaker 14: the tour started, and I mean it's a little bit bigue,
Speaker 14: but the tour started mid to late June and finished
Speaker 14: around the twentieth of September. They played four test matches
Speaker 14: I think was as I said, twenty twenty two games overall,
Speaker 14: and we lost the series three to one. But I
Speaker 14: do remember quite vividly the last Test, which was in
Speaker 14: joe Burg, was we lost by one point and we'd
Speaker 14: been ahead until the last bit of it. But the
Speaker 14: South Africans at that time they haven't changed. You know,
Speaker 14: they were cheating then and they still cheat now.
Speaker 4: And the cheap fifty years have hurt for you mate.
Speaker 14: Well, at that time they were lifting in the line
Speaker 14: out and that was something that no one ever did,
Speaker 14: but they'd perfected it and the referees couldn't see it.
Speaker 14: But of course we had home referees then it was
Speaker 14: South African referees, so they were part of the training
Speaker 14: session and they watched them lift and do all that
Speaker 14: sort of thing. But it was a great tour. I mean,
Speaker 14: we had a fabulous time. We had midweek matches, amongst
Speaker 14: the supporters. We played in bare feet and we'd select
Speaker 14: teams North Island, South Island, Alphabetical teams, age teams, and
Speaker 14: every week we'd go to a different club in the
Speaker 14: area that we're at. We were hosted by them and
Speaker 14: we just had a fabulous time of supporters. It was marvelous.
Speaker 6: There was no in the tour.
Speaker 14: We just got together and as well meaning individuals and
Speaker 14: enjoyed the South African hospitality. We had a fabulous time
Speaker 14: and you couldn't get away with ten percent of what
Speaker 14: we did. Then you wouldn't get away with ten percent
Speaker 14: of it now. It was We called ourselves the New
Speaker 14: Zealand Paralytic Team, just to give you an idea of.
Speaker 11: And we had.
Speaker 14: We had all the all our clothing had a New
Speaker 14: Zealand fern on it was Paralytic Team seventy six underneath it.
Speaker 4: I hope you've kept it. I hope you've kept a
Speaker 4: couple of those polo shirts or whatever they were. John
Speaker 4: maybe similar to a previous caller. Probably quite a good
Speaker 4: thing that phones weren't around them with cameras. Sounds like
Speaker 4: I had a great time though. Were just looking at
Speaker 4: those test scores that that series so close the one
Speaker 4: you referenced at the end. There was the fifteen fourteen defeat,
Speaker 4: but the scores and the Test series South Africa sixteen
Speaker 4: to seven, the All Blacks fifteen nine, South Africa fifthfteen ten,
Speaker 4: and then the fifteen fourteen so all very close. Margins,
Speaker 4: glad you were there to be a witness, mate. Sounds
Speaker 4: like a great tour nine and a half away from one.
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Speaker 4: Text thro here that says reminded me that in nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy six Billy Bush played nine games in a row
Speaker 4: Saturday Wednesday, Saturday Wednesday. For nine games in a row,
Speaker 4: he must be in shocked that they need eight props
Speaker 4: now for seven games that Texas from if it's who,
Speaker 4: If it's from who, I think it is a fairly
Speaker 4: handy front rower himself. Thanks for the thanks for the text,
Speaker 4: you term, Hi, thanks for holding mate.
Speaker 15: Oh, I see no worries.
Speaker 7: You've been enjoying it.
Speaker 15: I just it's just a brief thing, but I think
Speaker 15: it's it's a big thing, and it's a theory. I
Speaker 15: don't know the population of South Africa. How many jokers
Speaker 15: are playing rugby, but I slay it's pretty big. But
Speaker 15: the big I thought this for years, that I reckon
Speaker 15: that the know know that the box is so strong
Speaker 15: because the depth of human specimens players. You think, it's
Speaker 15: a good point. It's not diluted to the best of
Speaker 15: my knowledge, by playing league, or certainly not as rules
Speaker 15: like Australia.
Speaker 7: I mean, but.
Speaker 15: Do they play league at all? I don't know. I've
Speaker 15: never heard of it.
Speaker 4: They do, Yeah, if they do it, it's be a
Speaker 4: small pocket term. And yeah, it's a great point mate,
Speaker 4: in terms of oval ball sport over there it's rugby
Speaker 4: and then daylight mate.
Speaker 15: Yeah, there you go. I think that's a huge, huge point,
Speaker 15: you know, and that you know they're not diluted you
Speaker 15: or how many of the warriors they would get into
Speaker 15: the into the all books. But yeah, I'm sure there's
Speaker 15: some good, some great players playing league. But you know,
Speaker 15: like I'm just repeating myself, But then look at Ossie,
Speaker 15: there's some great players. They're playing Aussie rules. Ye'd be
Speaker 15: like in the backs. But I just think it's you know,
Speaker 15: it's a brief point, but a good point, a.
Speaker 4: Very pertinent point. Yeah, it has to play into the
Speaker 4: hands of Rassi Erasthmus and for everybody involved in the
Speaker 4: South African rugby development system. Football is obviously big tim
Speaker 4: as I'm sure you know. But in terms of oval ball, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's rugby or nothing really, so they get all of
Speaker 4: those athletes who are who are built. Imagine of South
Speaker 4: African's did play league, says this text. Be amazing at it,
Speaker 4: wouldn't they? I appreciate you, called tim text to finish Kjason.
Speaker 4: I was a student living in a dormitory early sixties.
Speaker 4: We were strictly supervised, lights out, no visitors, no transistor radios,
Speaker 4: only at our three minutes on the only land line,
Speaker 4: et cetera. I was the only child of a Canterbury
Speaker 4: rugby fanatic who was horrified I was not able to
Speaker 4: listen to the ABS playing in South Africa, so my
Speaker 4: dad smuggled me in a very small transistor radio middle
Speaker 4: of the night. Twelve girls piled onto my bed and
Speaker 4: we listened to the game very quietly.
Speaker 2: Great text.
Speaker 4: Yah, that's the other thing about South African rugby, isn't
Speaker 4: it is? The you know, you think of the days
Speaker 4: gone by watching these games in the middle of the night,
Speaker 4: getting up at three in the morning to watch them.
Speaker 4: We'll get the opportunity to do that over the next
Speaker 4: month to six or eight weeks or so as well.
Speaker 4: Thanks for all your calls and all your texts. I
Speaker 4: haven't been able to get to anywhere near all of them.
Speaker 4: Appreciate them though very much after one up the wise.
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Speaker 4: have just arrived, and time to talk Warriors with us.
Speaker 4: Because off the back of defeat last week to the Bulldogs,
Speaker 4: and that off the back of a rather unconvincing when
Speaker 4: the previous week against the Dragons, wasn't it to sit
Speaker 4: down there yesterday afternoon around five ish and watch the
Speaker 4: Warriors go to work against the Titans on the Gold Coast,
Speaker 4: And didn't it look like a home game for the Warriors.
Speaker 4: So many kiwis on the Gold Coast as we know,
Speaker 4: and they were out in good numbers watching the demolition job.
Speaker 4: And we'll come to the lefts my dumm easy goes
Speaker 4: in for a double.
Speaker 16: Our second post half timer Tamar lay Marden filled them
Speaker 16: with a flamboyant dummy. They needed to bounce back the
Speaker 16: Warriors and they have in a big way.
Speaker 4: They're running eight tries to one. They've dominated the first.
Speaker 16: Half, were on the job in the second and built
Speaker 16: are forty two points to six.
Speaker 1: Routes.
Speaker 4: Yeah a route it was. I tries to won five
Speaker 4: of those tries in the first half. The Warriors third
Speaker 4: on the ladder. The Sharks can draw level with them
Speaker 4: today if they beat the Rabbit O's that games in
Speaker 4: a few hours. Jake thinks they will on text up
Speaker 4: up Crinulla, says Jake, Well, we'll see. I want to
Speaker 4: talk about the top four, top two, top eight situation
Speaker 4: in a moment, but let's get you across the Tasman
Speaker 4: where fullback chants Nicol Klukstar joins us from the airport.
Speaker 4: I think as the team prepares to fly home, chants
Speaker 4: congrats make great performance from you and the team. How
Speaker 4: did you approach the week after the disappointment of the
Speaker 4: loss of the Bulldogs a week ago.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 17: It was a simple Fox really. It was just getting
Speaker 17: back to what we knew works and what we've been
Speaker 17: doing the whole year. So for us, it was really
Speaker 17: making it as basic as possible and focusing on what
Speaker 17: we've been doing.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 4: Well, you did a lot of things well last night.
Speaker 4: The forty two is impressive, but you restricted the Titans,
Speaker 4: who have scored thirty eight points in each of their
Speaker 4: last two games, to just one try. So how pleasing
Speaker 4: was the defensive side of things?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Really pleasing. There was a little mishappen first half where
Speaker 17: they did score their first try, but apart from that,
Speaker 17: I was really happy how we closed out the game.
Speaker 17: There there was a few opportunities where they attacked our
Speaker 17: line really well, and for us to be able to
Speaker 17: finish the game like that was a real highlight.
Speaker 4: Your first game back at fullback in a little while,
Speaker 4: how did it feel slipping back into that number one jersey?
Speaker 2: Yeah it felt good, Thank you.
Speaker 17: I was really pleased with how some of the things
Speaker 17: they do need to focus on a fullback felt like
Speaker 17: I had never left, and there's obviously a few things
Speaker 17: that I want to fix up. All in all, I
Speaker 17: was really happy with my first game back in a fallback.
Speaker 4: What are the big differences, you know, between playing fullback
Speaker 4: and filling some of the other roles on the back
Speaker 4: line as you have over the last little while.
Speaker 17: I would say your involvement was what the team's doing,
Speaker 17: and fullback you're probably looking at both sides of the
Speaker 17: footy in terms of attacking defense, and you actually have
Speaker 17: one of the best seats in the house. For me
Speaker 17: as a fallback, it's making sure that I can give
Speaker 17: information on the run to the boys so we can
Speaker 17: meet those adjustments if needed, and making sure that when
Speaker 17: I do chime in that my involvements are as positive
Speaker 17: as possible, and making sure that from a defensive point.
Speaker 2: Of view that whereas whereas yeah, as solid as possible.
Speaker 4: Well, after that game down in christ Church against the
Speaker 4: Cowboys on the wing when you scored four tries, did
Speaker 4: you think about a career change? And you know, I
Speaker 4: quite log it out here on the way.
Speaker 17: Nah, Nah, I didn't, I didn't. We have we have
Speaker 17: some we have some really elite wingers in our team.
Speaker 17: So for me to try and get in get in
Speaker 17: there with those boys and amongst the healthy squad, I
Speaker 17: thought or would be nearly impossible. So nah, there was
Speaker 17: no thought of changing positions at that stage.
Speaker 4: Well, one of those wingers, they fleshed up a stat
Speaker 4: last night after he scored Olafiana Camperira sixty six tries.
Speaker 4: He's got in sixty sixty NRL games. I like to
Speaker 4: do a double take. What makes them so prolific?
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a speed, isn't it.
Speaker 17: It's something that you just can't teach, something that you
Speaker 17: can chain, but a lot of that type of speed
Speaker 17: you can't. So it's definitely a superpower. And when he
Speaker 17: gets into space, he's gone. So I like how he's
Speaker 17: he's finding where he can implement himself into the game.
Speaker 17: And we as a team, we've just got to build
Speaker 17: around a lot of the boys' superpowers and what they
Speaker 17: bring to a squad, and part of Loti's as a speed.
Speaker 4: Of course, he was playing against his former side last night,
Speaker 4: as was Aaron Clark. The you sense a lift from
Speaker 4: from you know, players when they play against their former side.
Speaker 4: Do you get that when you play against the Raiders,
Speaker 4: for example?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: No? Yes?
Speaker 18: Or no?
Speaker 17: I think maybe the first few times that you're playing
Speaker 17: your old team, it's a little bit like that. But
Speaker 17: once you get a few games under the bout against
Speaker 17: and it's it's sort of like just another game, isn't it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was really.
Speaker 17: Happy with how all our boys contributed, but especially the
Speaker 17: boys that were formerly at the Titans.
Speaker 4: And you welcomed a new member to the Warriors family
Speaker 4: as well, a daboo for Riley Price, he and Steve
Speaker 4: the first father and son to have played for the club.
Speaker 4: That's a call milestone. How do you acknowledge deboo's internally chance?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 19: I love it.
Speaker 7: For their me, I was.
Speaker 17: I was so so over the moon and proud of Riley,
Speaker 17: like you said, for his father son duo. And he's
Speaker 17: only been a part of our squad for maybe a month,
Speaker 17: five six weeks at most, and he slotted and really well.
Speaker 18: I was real.
Speaker 17: I was really really happy for him when I when
Speaker 17: I noticed that he was on the field.
Speaker 4: Whenever you play on the Gold Coast, you get massive
Speaker 4: key we support, don't you. I mean you do everywhere
Speaker 4: in Australia, but particularly on the Gold Coast. How much
Speaker 4: do you hear and feel that key we support in
Speaker 4: a place like SeaBus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, massive, massive.
Speaker 17: Like I said yesterday after the game, they make us
Speaker 17: feel like it's our home game and they always turn up.
Speaker 17: So now we've got a really good ten everywhere we
Speaker 17: go really, not just on in Queensland.
Speaker 2: But yes, that's really nice to have.
Speaker 4: All right, And just to finish, I know you're just
Speaker 4: the day after the Titans game, but now attention turns
Speaker 4: to Penrith on Friday night. Top of the table man,
Speaker 4: I know fans are looking forward to it. Is there
Speaker 4: something a bit extra special about what lies ahead this
Speaker 4: week and on Friday night in front of it will
Speaker 4: be another packed house?
Speaker 17: Yeah, there is, you know, clean at the highest level,
Speaker 17: you want to play against the best in the comp
Speaker 17: and Penrith's been that for the last five, six, six years,
Speaker 17: so it's going to be a real good test for
Speaker 17: us as a team and the club and see where
Speaker 17: we're at, especially since the last time we played them.
Speaker 4: Congrats on the win yesterday. All the best for the week.
Speaker 4: Your head can't wait for Friday night against the Panthers.
Speaker 4: Thanks for taking the time for a chat, Chance.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for you guys.
Speaker 17: Have a good rest of the week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have a good rest of your day too, mate,
Speaker 4: travel safe chance. Nicol kluksta out of the Warriors forty
Speaker 4: two six last night over the Titans. It's hard not
Speaker 4: to get excited, isn't about what lies ahead? On Friday
Speaker 4: night at Go Media Stadium, the Warriors are up to
Speaker 4: open the lines. Incidentally, oh eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 4: eighty anything you saw last night, you want to come
Speaker 4: in on the Warriors. So the Warriors are thirty two
Speaker 4: points from nineteen games. There are two points behind the
Speaker 4: Roosters and a further two points behind the Panther. So
Speaker 4: it goes Panthers thirty six, Roosters thirty four, Warriors thirty two.
Speaker 4: The Sharks have thirty but they've still got one game
Speaker 4: or they they still got to play today against the
Speaker 4: rabbit O's. So they win that, they move level with
Speaker 4: the Warriors and then the Dolphins on thirty points. Then
Speaker 4: you'd dropped down a couple of points to the Knights,
Speaker 4: the rabbit Os, the Bulldogs. That's the top eight at
Speaker 4: the moment with a couple of games. Still, the players,
Speaker 4: I say across the weekend, is this a top two sides? Still?
Speaker 4: I look at the games that are still to be played,
Speaker 4: and there's still a few twists and turns I reckon
Speaker 4: in this regular season. For example, the Roosters run in.
Speaker 4: Four of their last five games are against teams in
Speaker 4: the top eight, so they've got a bit of I mean,
Speaker 4: much as they're playing very well. They've won their last
Speaker 4: six games, the Roosters, they've still got to play the
Speaker 4: Bulldogs at home, the Panthers away, the Dolphins at home,
Speaker 4: and the Rabbit O's away. All four of those teams
Speaker 4: are currently inside the top eight. They've also got the Tigers,
Speaker 4: should win that, okay. By contrast, the Warriors, it's an
Speaker 4: interesting running the Panthers obviously Friday, then the Broncos away,
Speaker 4: the Rabbit O's at home, the Knights are sorry, the
Speaker 4: rabbit Is away, the Knights at home, the Sea Eagles
Speaker 4: at home. So three of their last five games the
Speaker 4: Warriors are against teams currently in the top eight. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, finishing the top four obviously
Speaker 4: is clearly important because you get that extra life in
Speaker 4: the finals. Format of the NRL Finals, of course, is
Speaker 4: that one plays four and two plays three in Week one.
Speaker 4: Winners of those two games go directly through to the
Speaker 4: semi finals. Effectively, they get a week off and the
Speaker 4: losers get that second chance and then host against the
Speaker 4: winners of five v. Eight sixty seven. But you're finishing
Speaker 4: the top Two's important because you get to host that game.
Speaker 4: The Warriors sat in the top two for a long time,
Speaker 4: didn't they and they could still be there. Last night
Speaker 4: was excellent. Needed needed that win last night with the
Speaker 4: Panthers in coming on Friday, and I then get picked
Speaker 4: up on just on Chance Nickel Klukstar before we go
Speaker 4: to the lines. There's a selection issue now for Andrew
Speaker 4: Webster Taine to old pick. He's been very good there.
Speaker 4: He's kept Chance nickel Klukstar out of the number one jersey. Effectively,
Speaker 4: Chances had to play a bunch of different positions. He's
Speaker 4: played on the wing, he's come off the interchange bench.
Speaker 4: The latest I saw during the week was that the
Speaker 4: foot injury that kept tained to Old Pikey out this
Speaker 4: week is a one to two week proposition, So I
Speaker 4: guess that means he could potentially be in contention to
Speaker 4: play the Panthers. But I thought Charles was excellent last
Speaker 4: night at fullback. As he just said, then you know
Speaker 4: he was. It all came back to him pretty quickly,
Speaker 4: as as you'd assume it would. He played a lot
Speaker 4: of fallback last year, so there's a selection issue, which
Speaker 4: is a nice one to have when you got guys
Speaker 4: out like well, you know Roger tu Vasaschek, Tanner Boy
Speaker 4: Jackson Ford. You know, these guys not available and others too,
Speaker 4: but nice to have some competition for places. Frank, you
Speaker 4: would have enjoyed that, no doubt.
Speaker 20: That was absolutely brilliant. I was looking for that sort
Speaker 20: of a game though, Piney many many few months ago.
Speaker 20: When they first started. I mentioned about one swallow doesn't
Speaker 20: make a summer, and I've been looking for a lot
Speaker 20: more swallows during the time that they've been playing. Where
Speaker 20: He's got so much talent from that new South Wales
Speaker 20: Cup team to form and have the depth to knit
Speaker 20: together a great unit. That great unit has been there
Speaker 20: or they're are, but not fully displayed until last night.
Speaker 20: It came together and it created I think fair in
Speaker 20: the hearts of the opposition. Another analogy I like to
Speaker 20: make is like a horse race. This performance will create
Speaker 20: this team confidence as well as the fanclop club confidence,
Speaker 20: which will give the momentum as we approach the home
Speaker 20: stretch where the Broncos, the rabbit Os, the Knights, the
Speaker 20: Sea Eagles are there for the picking. Also, hopefully, I
Speaker 20: think jackson Ford could be back for maybe the last
Speaker 20: couple of games, which will bolster our power in the forwards. Metcalf,
Speaker 20: I have a question of I would have liked to
Speaker 20: see him when we were looking so dominant last night,
Speaker 20: to bring him on, to say twenty minutes, to give
Speaker 20: him some of that game time. I know he's been
Speaker 20: playing very well in the in the Cup side, but
Speaker 20: just to get in that because I think like Harris
Speaker 20: de Vieda and Tmio Martin, I mean, they're playing brilliantly
Speaker 20: in the halves, but they could be They could get
Speaker 20: a nega, they could get an injury and met Carver
Speaker 20: with the perfect position to put him in. But anyway,
Speaker 20: are you still there, Pony, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not, Frank, No, I'm listening. I'm listening and nodding my head. Absolutely. No,
Speaker 4: I'm always always listening to your thoughts. Yeah, you're right
Speaker 4: about jackson Ford. I've just checked as you were talking.
Speaker 4: Then the latest information they say is the final rounds.
Speaker 4: That's a bit funny, yeah, but it feels to me,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe a couple of three weeks away, but I
Speaker 4: look at that team and and the forward pack Fisher,
Speaker 4: Harris Egan, Barnett, Capewell, Laban Clark, it just feels like
Speaker 4: a really consistent solid if they can all stay fit.
Speaker 4: And I've probably jinxed it, but it just feels like
Speaker 4: a good, solid bunch of forwards, doesn't it. With the
Speaker 4: guys coming off the bench to help out if we
Speaker 4: can keep people foot and Jackson Fords back into that
Speaker 4: Max who knows.
Speaker 20: And you've also got Halaesima yep, I mean what a
Speaker 20: ball breaker. He is absolutely good time what you can
Speaker 20: name any of these guys, They're all so good. And
Speaker 20: as I say that, they've finally come together and I
Speaker 20: think this is going to give them the confidence to
Speaker 20: know that they can do it. I mean the Titans
Speaker 20: they were no but they weren't easy beats. I mean,
Speaker 20: we just struggled to beat the Dragons, and then the
Speaker 20: Titans gave them a bloody or sorry of workover, and
Speaker 20: then it was looking like the Tiger. The Titans in
Speaker 20: their home ground, they were they were very strong, but hey,
Speaker 20: we just we just smashed them.
Speaker 7: And I loved it.
Speaker 4: I loved it, freak, I loved it too, and I
Speaker 4: love talking to you the day after games as well,
Speaker 4: so please keep ringing. Yeah, forty two six, it was
Speaker 4: a lot of fun to watch. Thanks for your call, mate.
Speaker 4: Fred's porting out to me. The Sharks have got a
Speaker 4: much easier runner than all the rest, and Fred, You're
Speaker 4: right they have. They play the rabbit Os today and
Speaker 4: then the sharks last five games are all against teams
Speaker 4: from outside the top eight currently Dragon's, Raiders, Titans, Eels, Storm.
Speaker 4: That's their running. It's pretty comfortable, isn't it. But well,
Speaker 4: as the NRL always shows us, you can never take
Speaker 4: anything for granted. Lyle, you got invited into the corporate area. Mate,
Speaker 4: you would have loved it up there. They would have
Speaker 4: loved you up there. Yesterday at SeaBus.
Speaker 18: Well no, I had paid for the ticket, but were
Speaker 18: meant the game with the made of minees unfortunately not
Speaker 18: going to be with us much longer. He couldn't make it,
Speaker 18: but a sun and the pile of his friends we
Speaker 18: all went. Yeah, it was a great atmosphere. Look, I'm
Speaker 18: going to be honest. The last team matches from the Titans,
Speaker 18: I expected better from them. Yesterday. Hopefully me Rabbits can
Speaker 18: do the Warriors a favor of the same the eon
Speaker 18: and beat the Sharks. But I don't see it happening.
Speaker 18: I don't really see the Roosters slipping up going into
Speaker 18: the finals, so I think they're probably on the chance
Speaker 18: the Warriors of finishing in the top two. Hopefully I'm wrong,
Speaker 18: But to put it in a nutshell, no, they played
Speaker 18: well yesterday, but they needed to. They could have got
Speaker 18: home by one point and as long as they played well,
Speaker 18: they needed to put a good performance on the paddock.
Speaker 18: They got home by obviously a lot more than that,
Speaker 18: and they put a good performance on the paddict. But
Speaker 18: the acid test will come this Friday. A lot of
Speaker 18: the supporter said to me, oh, we only lost the
Speaker 18: penrift by two points last time, but the penriift side
Speaker 18: they only lost too by two points, wasn't in the
Speaker 18: form the current penwift side was. Looks ranger things have happened.
Speaker 18: I mean, no one would have seen that cricket score
Speaker 18: that popped up on Thursday night in the NRL is
Speaker 18: a funny competition, but yeah, I think they to win it.
Speaker 18: They need to finish in the top two. Have definitely
Speaker 18: the two home semis. They may be able to do
Speaker 18: it from outside of there, but to win it, even
Speaker 18: on yesterday's performance, they're going to have to go another
Speaker 18: twenty five to thirty percent better. And also, although it
Speaker 18: didn't matter in the end because of the number of
Speaker 18: tries score, they have to have a goal kicker that
Speaker 18: kicks it less eighty percent. Because Clary kicks at about
Speaker 18: ninety five. You know, you've just going to be able
Speaker 18: to lift that much further. Or hear a rumor he's
Speaker 18: flogging them at training to put miles into the tank
Speaker 18: so they can use it, you know, when it comes
Speaker 18: to the semis. But it's a fine wine, fine line
Speaker 18: to walk that one loading them up at training and
Speaker 18: then expecting them to keep winning games. But you know,
Speaker 18: best of luck to them, hopefully they can do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good on your law leadge. Enjoyed yourself yesterday, mate.
Speaker 4: In regards to your to your mate as well and
Speaker 4: his family. Yeah, I'm looking at the table and I'm
Speaker 4: trying to find a way to get the Warriors into
Speaker 4: the top two. Just I'm having a look at this
Speaker 4: table and they're looking at the game's remaining So you
Speaker 4: feel like you want the Roosters to have a drop
Speaker 4: in form or the Panthers to have a drop in form.
Speaker 4: The Warriors still have to play the Panthers, so that's important.
Speaker 4: If the Warriors can beat the Panthers this week, and
Speaker 4: then who the Panthers got left roost I've got the Roosters, Storm, Bulldogs, Tigers.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's not that tough.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like I say, if I'm trying to find a way
Speaker 4: and I'm just thinking out loud here of getting the
Speaker 4: Warriors back into the top two, maybe the way to
Speaker 4: do that is for the Panthers to have a catastrophic
Speaker 4: dropping form or at least a dip loose to us,
Speaker 4: loose to the Roosters, and then maybe it's us and
Speaker 4: the Roosters of the top two. Like iause, I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to work this out in real time. So yeah,
Speaker 4: forgive me one twenty five, We'll take a break, come
Speaker 4: back before if your calls of eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: ten eighty to talk the Warriors from.
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Speaker 4: One, Duncan says, good, Jason, I reckon it's time on it.
Speaker 4: That's a different text, Duncan says. Aaron Clark looked great
Speaker 4: at a halfback as a ballplayer, setting up moves. Looked
Speaker 4: like it confused the defense of it. Andrew Webs was
Speaker 4: asked about that afterwards. You will never hear the end
Speaker 4: of it. A couple of kicks. Aaron Clark used to
Speaker 4: be a halfback. I don't think I knew that, but yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right Duncan. He did look good going into into
Speaker 4: that position on occasion. Jamie, Hi, mate, thanks for holding.
Speaker 11: No worries, Jason.
Speaker 6: He just said that.
Speaker 11: I just listening to that interview with Chans and he's
Speaker 11: sort of they'll be working on the training. Was getting
Speaker 11: back to the basics and all that mets. Yeah, I
Speaker 11: sort of held over the last few weeks the Warriors
Speaker 11: didn't they have the quite the attacking mojo, but I
Speaker 11: think that's sort of maybe been rediscovered last night in
Speaker 11: What the Hell with That?
Speaker 7: As well, I thought was.
Speaker 11: We've got the benefit of the refs calling the six agains,
Speaker 11: which I don't think they've been doing over the last
Speaker 11: few weeks which enabled the forwards to give that roll
Speaker 11: on and and then for the backs to do their things. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think there had been some question marks over the attack,
Speaker 4: hadn't they, Jamie. You know, you only score six against
Speaker 4: the Bulldogs. I mean bull Dog's good defensive side. But
Speaker 4: even the twenty twelve went over the Dragons at home,
Speaker 4: it wasn't as though the fluidity was necessarily there. But yeah,
Speaker 4: if that was what they were working on, going back
Speaker 4: to basics and it led to that yesterday, then more
Speaker 4: of it, I say, stick to the basics of that's
Speaker 4: what the result is.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 11: And in terms of the rest of the season. To
Speaker 11: finish in the top two, we might have to win
Speaker 11: all of our remaining games. But I mean even if
Speaker 11: we win, even if we just went and say that
Speaker 11: most of them three like three or four, then then
Speaker 11: we should still be still being the top four at least,
Speaker 11: which you know, which we'll take with and ends.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, I think you're right, Jamie. If you and
Speaker 4: I had been chatting back in February March and we'd said, okay,
Speaker 4: we'll be top four, we would have taken it, wouldn't we.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, a guaranteed home final at least
Speaker 4: in the second week if if that's the case, and
Speaker 4: two lives in the playoffs. Yeah, I think you're right mate, Panthers, Broncos,
Speaker 4: rabbit Os, Knights, c Eagles, I think yeah, four ones
Speaker 4: out of five there and I think you'd almost certainly
Speaker 4: be in the four. Yeah, yeah, good on your mate,
Speaker 4: Thanks for calling us. Always good chatting to you. Look
Speaker 4: forward to the back end of the season. Eight hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty as always as our number mark.
Speaker 12: Hey hey FINALI yeah, I was just thinking it's quite
Speaker 12: unusual in sport where the final has sort of played
Speaker 12: at a neutral stadium, you know, like most most sporting
Speaker 12: events in New Zealand and Australia, you know, the top
Speaker 12: team usually hosts a final. I don't they, So it's
Speaker 12: quite unusual in that regard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think AFL, the AFL, the finals always at
Speaker 4: the g in the AFL. But you're right, yeah, like
Speaker 4: in I look at the A League Super Rugby. Yeah
Speaker 4: it's it's obviously it doesn't doesn't help the Warriors if
Speaker 4: they ever get to, you know, to a Grand final again,
Speaker 4: it's always going to be over there.
Speaker 12: But yeah, look it's I guess that is what it is,
Speaker 12: and I guess on there we're based with that. Even
Speaker 12: if we finished second, you know, we're still going to
Speaker 12: go and play over there in the final. So to me,
Speaker 12: it's going to be a hell of a game next week.
Speaker 12: I mean, Penrith came out last night and sort of
Speaker 12: went answered the Warriors game with a smashing of the Raiders,
Speaker 12: who are an actually quite good form as well. I thought, so, yeah,
Speaker 12: it's going to be probably the game of the season
Speaker 12: because last time the Warriors met they obviously didn't have
Speaker 12: three of the top stars on the side. I'm not
Speaker 12: going to give way any coaching advice, believe it or not,
Speaker 12: but I quite like Chance at fullback. I think he
Speaker 12: had a great game and I think they look I mean,
Speaker 12: I know til Picky has you know, being pretty good,
Speaker 12: but he's he's really quite lightweight, you know, bringing that
Speaker 12: ball back with the back three. You know, Camperiers speed,
Speaker 12: Dellan's sort of got the bulk in the sort of
Speaker 12: speed to bring that ball back, and I think that's
Speaker 12: quite important, especially in big games, to have their ability.
Speaker 12: And you know, when Tippicky gets tackled a lot of
Speaker 12: the time, he's going backwards, you.
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he's gutsy though, isn't he gutsy is all
Speaker 4: hat and yeah, you're right, he's not the biggest guy,
Speaker 4: but he's he's got a ton of courage and clearly
Speaker 4: I mean Wheb, he clearly likes him because even when
Speaker 4: you know Chance has been available, he's he's stuck with
Speaker 4: Taine a fallback, and that, I guess makes me think
Speaker 4: Mark that Weber's a bit like, you know, don't change
Speaker 4: a winning team kind of mentality. So I get the
Speaker 4: feeling Chance will play against the Panthers even if even
Speaker 4: if Tan to a Picky is available on Friday. I
Speaker 4: reckon Chance will start at fall back again because he
Speaker 4: did yesterday and played really well there. As you say,
Speaker 4: I reckon he'll stick with it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I like the idea of what Rassi does with his
Speaker 12: bomb squad, but playing impact players, you know, if you
Speaker 12: brought to a Picky on sort of like you know,
Speaker 12: ten minutes to go in the second half or like
Speaker 12: twenty minutes to go in the game. He's got speed,
Speaker 12: which you know can really make a difference with tiring players.
Speaker 12: And he's very similar as well. He he comes on
Speaker 12: to me, he's a superstar as well. Then he's coming
Speaker 12: off the bench and probably you know, he is being
Speaker 12: injected into the game. And as one of your other
Speaker 12: callers said, you know, getting Metcalf back in the game,
Speaker 12: I think might be important because you know, there's got
Speaker 12: to be injuries between now and the finals probably, so
Speaker 12: it's just a matter of where that happens. And I
Speaker 12: think having another half to come in, you know, even
Speaker 12: if our six seven nine get injured, it'd be quite
Speaker 12: good to have Metcalf up to the Narl sort of
Speaker 12: standard to be able to go in because for me,
Speaker 12: it's sort of a weird one with a Metcalf because
Speaker 12: he was such a good player and then he got
Speaker 12: injured and as the injury really sort of hampered his ability.
Speaker 12: Or is it because I mean he was probably one
Speaker 12: of the best number sevens in the competition when without he.
Speaker 4: Was the best last year when he went out. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he was leading the Dally M not just the best
Speaker 4: half back, the best player. He came back to early
Speaker 4: this season, I'm almost certain of that. They brought him back.
Speaker 4: They were talking about round six or seven. He came
Speaker 4: back in round four and then he pulled his hammy
Speaker 4: in round five and was out and then the whole
Speaker 4: moving away thing happened, so that can't be discounted in
Speaker 4: this whole thing. I've been wrestling with the whole Luke
Speaker 4: Metcalf thing for a long time. Mark, you know, I
Speaker 4: and I you know, and I absolutely admire Andrew Webster
Speaker 4: sticking with to Mighty Martin. But I just think Luke Metcalf,
Speaker 4: while he is a warrior, could still add something. And
Speaker 4: he kicks goals, which is the other part of this
Speaker 4: which is important too. So yeah, let's see what he does.
Speaker 4: Good to chat Mark, thanks mate. Tak Tuopiki are very
Speaker 4: rarely used off the interchange bench. In fact, I think
Speaker 4: only once this season. He's had lots of starts at fullback,
Speaker 4: but I think only once this season has he been
Speaker 4: used in an interchange role. So it feels like it's
Speaker 4: either a start for him or he does and get
Speaker 4: on the field. Paul, how are you, mate? How are
Speaker 4: you feeling good?
Speaker 10: I finy, Yeah, I'm feeling I'm feeling good. It was
Speaker 10: it was a good win. It isn't a good when
Speaker 10: we when we're talking about whether the Worry is going
Speaker 10: to be in the top two or not.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, we're disappointed if they they might only
Speaker 4: be top four. Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so that's a good, good place to be. And
Speaker 10: we've got three home games left, two away games, so
Speaker 10: I mean, to be honest, I'm still not convinced of
Speaker 10: where they're at going by the last two games. You know,
Speaker 10: the Dragons in the game last night. You know, let's
Speaker 10: face it, you know the Titans. They're a good team,
Speaker 10: but you know they're not a top eight team. So
Speaker 10: we'll find out this week. And you know, we all
Speaker 10: know that that Glass game, the Panthers beat.
Speaker 7: Us by two points.
Speaker 10: A lot of the commentators are saying, and I agree,
Speaker 10: we were a bit of team on the day, so
Speaker 10: we can absolutely beat them at home.
Speaker 4: So yeah, a couple of selection things, Paul, what would
Speaker 4: you do at full back? Or what do you think
Speaker 4: he will do? Do you think it'll stick? He'll stick
Speaker 4: with chance there, even though Tane's been his man for
Speaker 4: most of the last two or three months.
Speaker 10: Pence, how how long Taine's out for back two backs?
Speaker 18: Soon?
Speaker 10: I think you'll bring Tames straight back. And the other
Speaker 10: one was I heard that Rocco Berry was brought in
Speaker 10: to start in the centers and Pompey and Leota will
Speaker 10: both drop. But I think hearing Pompey, sorry Rocco Berry
Speaker 10: stun as hemmy and the poor guy can't can't catch
Speaker 10: your brain. Yeah, so obviously went in there. Cleka Halima
Speaker 10: is not a center, There's no doubt about that. He's
Speaker 10: a back rower. So yeah, I'm not sure what they
Speaker 10: do there. You bring back Pompy Breck and I wouldn't
Speaker 10: be surprised. But this this week's game is going to
Speaker 10: be massive. But I just can't wait to spend the
Speaker 10: day down there at go Media Stadium and the Panthers
Speaker 10: are rolling and it's going to be epic made. And
Speaker 10: you know, I've got I've got full confidence the boys
Speaker 10: can beat the pants is at home this weekend. So
Speaker 10: we'll see how we go.
Speaker 7: Mate.
Speaker 4: Our only issue, Paul Is, is only Sunday. We've got
Speaker 4: to get to Friday somehow, mate, How are we going
Speaker 4: to get screwed that week? I know what you mean,
Speaker 4: because I can't wait for Friday to arrive and I'm
Speaker 4: not even going to be there. I'm going to be
Speaker 4: sort of you know, I'll feel like a cat on
Speaker 4: hot and roof for most of the week. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it should be just what Actually, while I've got your
Speaker 4: one more thing on Luke Metcalf, have you got a
Speaker 4: view on on whether or not he should be used
Speaker 4: at some point in the next couple of months.
Speaker 12: I think so.
Speaker 10: I it's interesting because we've got about six five or
Speaker 10: six games left. You never know what can happen. You know,
Speaker 10: Tomight he could go get a hamstring, an injury could occur.
Speaker 10: So I think he's just wait where he's just keeping them,
Speaker 10: you know, on the on the bench to see what happens.
Speaker 10: But you know, we've got a million dollars apparently sitting
Speaker 10: on the bench there, so you know, he should be playing.
Speaker 10: And if and if there was a replacement, i'd replace
Speaker 10: Channell with was Luke Metcalf? H Yeah, but mine you should.
Speaker 10: I had to have a good game yesterday, so it's
Speaker 10: a tough one, mate, but a good problem to.
Speaker 4: Have, very good problem to have. Good on you, Paul, Hey,
Speaker 4: good luck getting through the week, mate, Enjoy Friday. Hopefully
Speaker 4: we can chat next Saturday about another terrific Warriors win.
Speaker 4: Good to hear from you, Hey, Mark.
Speaker 21: Hey, here you go, mate, good thank you. Hey, Just
Speaker 21: on the fullback and half situation. Just from the point
Speaker 21: of your lead thing, they'll probably from what I can understand,
Speaker 21: they'll probably go tain just because of his creative nature.
Speaker 12: And they always say, you know, when.
Speaker 21: You're playing top fourteen, what it really comes down to
Speaker 21: is being able to create something when the defense is
Speaker 21: so strong, and I think that's probably his advantage over chance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good point. And clearly, as I just
Speaker 4: said before, Andrew Webster likes him. He's had the opportunity
Speaker 4: to play, he's had them both foot for large parts
Speaker 4: of the season. He's gone with Tayane, so you'd expect
Speaker 4: them to go back to that of Taine's foot even
Speaker 4: for this coming Friday.
Speaker 21: I think if he if he's at if he's really
Speaker 21: you know, play at one hundred percent, they'll go with him.
Speaker 12: But I think there's a chance that he.
Speaker 21: Doesn't play this week just because they want to be sure.
Speaker 21: You know, the last thing you want is to aggravate
Speaker 21: an injury. Just on their halfs are currently got if
Speaker 21: you look at like the defensive nature of what they do,
Speaker 21: even in that Bulldogs game when they basically all didn't
Speaker 21: really step up the tackling that was made by some
Speaker 21: of the halves in that game really kept the scoreline
Speaker 21: from blowing out. And I've noticed the kicking game of
Speaker 21: the current halves in the last four or five weeks.
Speaker 21: If you look at where we leave the ball at
Speaker 21: the end of a set, a lot of it's within
Speaker 21: the twenty, if not in the ten. When they first
Speaker 21: got the roles, they couldn't even do that, So they've
Speaker 21: really made great strides. So I can't see Metcalf playing
Speaker 21: again for the Warriors and this and something really happens.
Speaker 4: Thanks Mark, Yeah, great points. Well, mate, Yeah, I get
Speaker 4: the feeling.
Speaker 18: You're right.
Speaker 4: I think it'll be Martin and and Harris Tavita unless
Speaker 4: there's an injury. Still, nice to have Luke Metcalf there,
Speaker 4: and I wonder whether he does have a role to play.
Speaker 4: Thanks for calling mate, twenty to two. It's like a
Speaker 4: right come back with James mcconey.
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Speaker 4: mcconey as always is with us on a Sunday up
Speaker 4: in Glasgow covering the Commonwealth Games as part of Sky
Speaker 4: Sports coverage. Good to chat to he has always James,
Speaker 4: How good was Eliza McCartney's gold in the women's pole vault.
Speaker 7: Well, it's it's just incredible the perseverance shown, right, And
Speaker 7: this is this is somebody who every time I see her,
Speaker 7: she's you know, battling in Achilles injury and I mean
Speaker 7: she's still the Achilles is still a problem, but she's
Speaker 7: just learned to manage it and it has come back
Speaker 7: and just been world class. And she's just a class
Speaker 7: act anyway. You know, she's getting fluenced in today or mahldy,
Speaker 7: she's just a ray of sunshine and so and also
Speaker 7: not only a hero to Imogen Heiris, but her mentor
Speaker 7: as well. Now so and I'm sure Olivia mctaggett feels
Speaker 7: the same way. So hard luck for Live missing out
Speaker 7: because she is a really top performer as well. But
Speaker 7: just seeing Liza do that with with image in there
Speaker 7: just shows that in terms of what our strongest event is,
Speaker 7: it probably is right up there women's pullbot.
Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, So a golden a bronze there and then
Speaker 4: a silver for Tory Morby in the in the women's javelin.
Speaker 4: Had the chance to do a couple of events with
Speaker 4: Tory Morby. What an impressive since she is, but great
Speaker 4: to see her on the podium as well with silver
Speaker 4: and the women's javelin.
Speaker 7: It's just so great because she she dabbled with leaving
Speaker 7: she's toying with leaving javelin last year she wanted to.
Speaker 7: She played cricket last summer. She was playing for the
Speaker 7: Northern Brave and women's team and the I think was
Speaker 7: the b team there for a while, but they were
Speaker 7: really hopeful that she's going to stick it it. Obviously
Speaker 7: could bowl very very fast and throw very far from
Speaker 7: the boundary, so you know there were certain things, you know,
Speaker 7: they were just liking the way that she was making
Speaker 7: those strides. But then she sort of managed to find
Speaker 7: her way back throwing the javelin and falling in love
Speaker 7: with it again. So good on it for doing it,
Speaker 7: and you know, seeing her success and that of Zoe
Speaker 7: Hobbs who's from Stratford and Taranaki of course Tories from
Speaker 7: Gore down in Southland, it does remind me of you
Speaker 7: know that song by journey. Don't stop believing. You know, yep,
Speaker 7: just a small town girl and so you know, living
Speaker 7: in a loney world and then just basically catching them
Speaker 7: in night train. But you know the one thing that
Speaker 7: they don't do, Piney, they don't stop believing.
Speaker 4: Okay, there is the secret to it all. Don't stop
Speaker 4: believing small town boys and girls. Anything is possible. Hey,
Speaker 4: we've heard the Australian national anthem far too many times,
Speaker 4: but we're not going to hear it the net ball.
Speaker 4: Jamaica beat them in the semis.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, jamaking me crazy. That is just one
Speaker 7: of those things. If I heard the Jamaican fans singing
Speaker 7: no Jamaica, No Party, and I was going, that's quite
Speaker 7: good from them. And look the Silm fans are in
Speaker 7: with a great shot. I think Grace and Wiki is
Speaker 7: just an incredible goal shooter. And you know, as long
Speaker 7: as she's out there on the court, I think the
Speaker 7: New Zealand's got a good chance for gold. So it's
Speaker 7: pretty cool to see. And look the Aussies. Last time
Speaker 7: I saw on the middle table that was fifty nine gold,
Speaker 7: So you know they've done all right.
Speaker 18: They have.
Speaker 4: As the curtain comes down on the Glasgow event. It's
Speaker 4: been shortened of course, and that was because of the
Speaker 4: short time frame that Glasgow had to organize it after
Speaker 4: Victoria or Melbourne pulled out. What sense do you get,
Speaker 4: James about the future of this event of the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's been revised nicely. It's
Speaker 7: been trimmed down. I think there's probably because of the
Speaker 7: short notice they couldn't. You know, you can see there's
Speaker 7: a lack of outdoor sports, so I think a Lenox
Speaker 7: felt like it was the only thing that was on
Speaker 7: outdoors and I think they could probably add a few
Speaker 7: back in. I think triathlon needs to come back in
Speaker 7: and some of the distance events, so I'd like to
Speaker 7: see that happen. I think the next edition is going
Speaker 7: to be an Indian. I think New Zealand could actually
Speaker 7: host the Commonwealth Games. They'd have to share it around
Speaker 7: a bit, but it's definitely doable. You know, we've got
Speaker 7: we've got a valodrome, we've got that there's there's a
Speaker 7: couple of pools that could be used or expanded and
Speaker 7: really it's just the price of working out where to
Speaker 7: have the athletics right. But I think there's enough big
Speaker 7: venues in New Zealand. If I'm happy to let a
Speaker 7: country host that, I think New Zealand should put a
Speaker 7: bit in that. That's my feeling, and the Comonwealth Games
Speaker 7: at the size it is at the moment is possibly
Speaker 7: about right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree, and I hope that that that
Speaker 4: that has investigated the ability of a country to host
Speaker 4: the Commonwealth Games. And yeah, I think New Zealand should
Speaker 4: definitely get their their hat in that ring. A couple
Speaker 4: of other matters I wanted to get your thoughts on.
Speaker 4: You're following the Gianni Infantino FIFA saga.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how I feel about
Speaker 7: Johnny and Fantino because when you look at previous and
Speaker 7: then set black, Infantino is a massive upgrade. You know,
Speaker 7: he wasn't there for those those terrible years of just
Speaker 7: blatant corruption and by all those different he called them delegates,
Speaker 7: but they were terrible. You know, you chuck Blazers and
Speaker 7: I forget the guy from Trinidad. You'll remember his.
Speaker 4: Name, Jack Warner, was it?
Speaker 7: That's right? Warner? Like, he basically built an entire high
Speaker 7: performance football academy. But he is funny enough. He owned
Speaker 7: the land that it was on, so it became his.
Speaker 7: And so look, this is the whole thing with FIFA.
Speaker 7: Infantino years clumsy. His relationship with Trump is regrettable, and
Speaker 7: giving a peace prize to Trump is just absolute madness.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, this thing is all about commerce.
Speaker 7: He wanted to privatize or sell sell off some of
Speaker 7: the World Cup and look, maybe they need to find
Speaker 7: a way to inject more money into the game because
Speaker 7: like most those or most of those organizations, world rugby
Speaker 7: is the same. The World Cup is everything. That's where
Speaker 7: the money comes from, and they've got huge expenses covering
Speaker 7: everything else. So look, he's going to back down. I
Speaker 7: don't know if there'll be a coup, but let's just
Speaker 7: hope that the next person is less weird than in Fantina.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's hope. So that's quite a low Barber, So
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. I always good to chet to you, James,
Speaker 4: loving your coverage as part of Sky's coverage of the
Speaker 4: of the Commonwealth Games. Go well for the rest of it, mate,
Speaker 4: and look forward to catching up at around about the
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Speaker 4: Talks six to two. Couple of its corresponds just to
Speaker 4: mop up dinoyes. They should call it the Aussie Wealth Games. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they should, also, says, do make Australia compete at States,
Speaker 4: New South Wales, Queensland, Victoria, et cetera, to make it fair.
Speaker 4: They'd probably still Win't too easy for them. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: do seem to be monstering the Games, don't they. Piney.
Speaker 4: I think New Zealand has already submitted for hosting the
Speaker 4: twenty thirty four Commonwealth Games. I know that they had
Speaker 4: expressed an early interest. I seem to remember we had
Speaker 4: somebody on talking about this in ZC lodged and Expression
Speaker 4: of interest. A Metabad is host of the twenty thirty
Speaker 4: Commonwealth Games. Formal discussions and detailed proposal timelines from the
Speaker 4: Commonwealth Games Organization anticipated to begin towards the end of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven or early twenty twenty eight. So we
Speaker 4: should just give it a crack. We'll talk about this
Speaker 4: another day. There's not enough time today, but we should
Speaker 4: give it a crack, especially if there is the ability
Speaker 4: to host it in more than one place, you know,
Speaker 4: move it around a bit. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 4: a truck hated games like this one, a full Commonwealth
Speaker 4: Games like nineteen ninety, you know, like Birmingham twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: This one is short because it had to be. But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 4: we can talk about that another day. Write that down, Andy,
Speaker 4: Let's talk about Commonwealth Games hosting twenty and thirty four
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Speaker 4: Before we get there, I want to preview tonight's gold
Speaker 4: medal match in the netball. The Silver Ferns with a
Speaker 4: chance to break a sixteen year gold medal drafts at
Speaker 4: the Calm Games. They take on Jamaica in the finals tonight.
Speaker 4: A few people have asked me when Center pass is
Speaker 4: at midnight Tonight's New Zealand time midnights, so it'll be
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Speaker 4: of our best ever tennis players, has moved into a
Speaker 4: really interesting area posters playing career. I want to hear
Speaker 4: more about that. Pedro Modeda, new coach of Auckland FC,
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Speaker 4: Also in the NRL, the Penrith Panthers back to dominance.
Speaker 19: It could be the matchic the right. The Raiders have
Speaker 19: to hang on panthers with you Clary double pup the game.
Speaker 19: So the one take it to night. What a first
Speaker 19: for Peglot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ran all over the Camber Raiders forty two eighteen. Meantime,
Speaker 4: Andy McDonald's Newcastle Knights demolishing the Broncos chipkick welsh Man.
Speaker 22: Oh the bounce Snuggert didn't get there on the floor.
Speaker 22: Now look out, shut start away, He's gonna scarf. I'd
Speaker 22: stick on the cake for the Newcastle Knights. Whit are
Speaker 22: shark never in doubt.
Speaker 4: This is a stirring went for the Newcastle Knights by
Speaker 4: thirty points to six to the Calm Games. Another track
Speaker 4: and field medal for New Zealand.
Speaker 23: But it's Morby and so but needs better than sixty
Speaker 23: one eighty eight to launch into gold finals row for
Speaker 23: Tory Morby.
Speaker 4: Can she turn it into gold?
Speaker 23: No she cannot, But it's a silver celebration for Morby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, brilliant from Tory Morby, a silver Togo with Alish
Speaker 4: Andrews bronze and our women's para time trial gold in
Speaker 4: the velodrome. So our Glasgow Metal talley continues to climb
Speaker 4: the Blues women have taken home the Spoils. On the
Speaker 4: Super Rugby Champions Final our basin.
Speaker 24: Bumping off Tea Hines around the corner comes Rus the captain.
Speaker 24: She reaches out and scores the try, the Blues landing
Speaker 24: a hammer blow here in the Champions.
Speaker 4: Final, Yeah they bet the Wartas twenty four to seventeen
Speaker 4: in Sydney and in the NPC, Taranaki picking up a
Speaker 4: winning pookakoe to the.
Speaker 24: Boot find space. It bounces, Sam CARKU has it, Sam Cark.
Speaker 4: He's got to score a try.
Speaker 3: One of the most unlikely ways, the bounce of the ball.
Speaker 4: It's frozen the Steelers. I went over the Steelers by
Speaker 4: twenty points to five. Otago upset Stagg Day proceedings and
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Speaker 25: Power from Otago irving one of the replacements thought about
Speaker 25: throwing it, held it against the lamb that comes to
Speaker 25: Miller cloats the pass over the top turned the Nina
Speaker 25: keywoll unselfishly flick it out to Christian leo' willie.
Speaker 4: Who will score his second try. Otago Big One is
Speaker 4: forty one fourteen and Richie Moonga has made his New
Speaker 4: Zealand rugby return in a match winning shift for Canterbury
Speaker 4: against Auckland.
Speaker 16: The arms out from Paul Williams, Wonga in there, got it,
Speaker 16: darts his way through, ripped him on.
Speaker 13: Well.
Speaker 4: He might have missed the conversion to go in front,
Speaker 4: but he's called the try that's given him the league.
Speaker 4: You a long wait to get it back, but it's
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Speaker 4: News Talks V coming up eleven past two. Auckland FC
Speaker 4: this week announced their new head coach for the upcoming
Speaker 4: A League men's football season. Pedro Modeta arrives after a
Speaker 4: recent stint in Uzbekistan. He's also worked as an assistant
Speaker 4: coach at FC Porto Shakta Denetsk and as Roma. Pedro
Speaker 4: Modator is with us. Congratulations on the role, Pedro, and welcome.
Speaker 4: What was it about Auckland FC that convinced you this
Speaker 4: was the right opportunity for you at this time of
Speaker 4: your coaching career.
Speaker 26: Hello to everyone. It's a pleasure to be here. It's
Speaker 26: a pleasure to be on the country. On the club,
Speaker 26: on a great club like Auckland FC. It's really an
Speaker 26: amazing challenge for me and to understand the possibility to
Speaker 26: play in a Hay league, to be on the greatest
Speaker 26: club in New Zealand. I'm really really happy with with
Speaker 26: such a challenge, important challenge like this and I'm very
Speaker 26: I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 2: It was it was really, it was really dead.
Speaker 26: When when when the chance appears, I really study everything
Speaker 26: around the team, around the squad. Of course, we as
Speaker 26: a manager study study everything to be possible to have
Speaker 26: an interview of a meeting with with them.
Speaker 2: I start I started this process.
Speaker 26: A few years ago with with a relation with Black
Speaker 26: Knight group or understanding why where my kind of game
Speaker 26: and the way that I play as as a coach,
Speaker 26: and I passed the patents that have passed to my
Speaker 26: to my teams, the way that we that we demand,
Speaker 26: the demands that we create on the game. I share
Speaker 26: that with them and I don't even I don't even
Speaker 26: and I don't even have the idea that could be
Speaker 26: possible in the future of such a possibility so far
Speaker 26: away from home like like New Zealand, and when the
Speaker 26: chances appear, I spoke with Nick, I spoke with Terror,
Speaker 26: I spoke with Bill. It was really a fantastic opportunity
Speaker 26: and I study everything around and when when we shared my.
Speaker 2: Ideas, the chance was created. And I'm really happy to
Speaker 2: be here.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: You come into a team that already, even in short existence,
Speaker 4: has had good success I League Premiers in their first season,
Speaker 4: I League champions last season. How do you balance respecting
Speaker 4: what has been built but also putting your own stamp
Speaker 4: on the team.
Speaker 26: First of all, you must to understand their detached that
Speaker 26: air from Steve Okay, it was really two amazing years
Speaker 26: in the last in the last two seasons, with a
Speaker 26: lot of quality. Okay, in the quality, in the way
Speaker 26: that they play, the demands that they created the championship,
Speaker 26: the way that the ambition that could be possible to
Speaker 26: create on the players, on the relation between the between them,
Speaker 26: even don't we could never forget the logistic situation that
Speaker 26: the club like this have to play in Australia. Okay,
Speaker 26: the time that they pass in flight moments, in hotel moments,
Speaker 26: it's it's so different than the other the other teams.
Speaker 26: We must do understand this, and really it was the
Speaker 26: challenge that they create for the way that could be
Speaker 26: possible to repeat these two years in a row, and
Speaker 26: I hope that to be possible in the two years
Speaker 26: in a row. I know the difficulty that will be
Speaker 26: in the future. I know the demands that are created already.
Speaker 26: I'm completely ambitious for that. I will work hard with
Speaker 26: all of my boys to be possible after chance, with
Speaker 26: my with my really with my individual stamp, but especially
Speaker 26: to be to have a chance to pass the spotlight
Speaker 26: for what they will do on the pitch, the quality
Speaker 26: of football, the organization of the team, the way that
Speaker 26: we will create chances, don't allow chances to the opponent.
Speaker 2: There's really something that we could have done. We could
Speaker 2: not forget that.
Speaker 26: A few things that already change in the in the club,
Speaker 26: the salary cap, the ceiling that are created for the
Speaker 26: new for the new season, the renew of the squad.
Speaker 2: Also the situation that create also.
Speaker 26: That must to create more ambition in these players for
Speaker 26: the future, and I'm here to work with them to
Speaker 26: be possible in the future, improve everything and a lot
Speaker 26: of situations from from the present to the future.
Speaker 4: Tell us about your coaching philosophy. What can fans expect
Speaker 4: from from your teams. How do you like your teams
Speaker 4: to play?
Speaker 26: First of all, we must understand what they did in
Speaker 26: the past, the good things that they did, and use
Speaker 26: use that kind of situation. The organization, first of all,
Speaker 26: two depends on tactical systems, but first of all depends
Speaker 26: of the way that we fulfill the spaces when we
Speaker 26: don't have the ball, but especially when the moment that
Speaker 26: we have the ball, because that that is the moment
Speaker 26: when we will be possible control the game and show
Speaker 26: more quality to our fans and also to have the
Speaker 26: superiority instead of the whole opponents. What I like, what
Speaker 26: I like in the teams is that's be possible to
Speaker 26: the supporters to be allowed to the supporter check. This
Speaker 26: is an organized team that work hard and fight hard
Speaker 26: for the victory for every every play that participates. And
Speaker 26: we are organized and we have a relation between sectors,
Speaker 26: between the spaces to really recover the ball as soon
Speaker 26: as possible and don't allow the chances. In the same way,
Speaker 26: try to play as a position of play with the
Speaker 26: quality in attacking football and in the moment that instead
Speaker 26: what happened with the opponents, we play a lot for
Speaker 26: the spaces that the opponents allow us and we will
Speaker 26: try to play with quality.
Speaker 2: Can be inside, can be outside.
Speaker 26: But really to create the reallation between of the players
Speaker 26: that could that could be possible to control the games
Speaker 26: with quality. In this situation, we have a lot of
Speaker 26: players that show in the in the recity in the
Speaker 26: recently past that we have real equality and we must
Speaker 26: work hard to be possible in the next season show
Speaker 26: the same thing for all of all of our supports
Speaker 26: and keep the same happiness in the stands that we
Speaker 26: had in the last two seasons.
Speaker 4: You come into the team peg driven and you very
Speaker 4: much inherit the plying squad. The squad is pretty much complete.
Speaker 4: So how much does that change your approach? Are you
Speaker 4: able to come in and allow those players to apply
Speaker 4: your style even though you didn't pack them yourself.
Speaker 2: There's two situations that we can think about it.
Speaker 26: First of all, since the moment that we spoke about
Speaker 26: this opportunity, I discussed this with Nick and Terry especially.
Speaker 26: Of course it's important to share that of course I
Speaker 26: don't choose a lot of players that we have in
Speaker 26: the team, and also we renew a few a few
Speaker 26: of these players to keep the players the team more young,
Speaker 26: more ambitious also and it's important sometimes we must create
Speaker 26: a good environment for this kind of players with in
Speaker 26: their lives improve on their careers and could we are
Speaker 26: speaking about fantastic players with quality, with such an amazing
Speaker 26: future to be possible to play in a team like
Speaker 26: Auckland f C. Even in this kind of situation when
Speaker 26: we spoke about we have a change, even in this
Speaker 26: guy and in this moment to increase the quality of
Speaker 26: the team with two three spots that we have free.
Speaker 2: From the future.
Speaker 26: But of course we change a few situations from the
Speaker 26: present to the future. We are speaking about a different
Speaker 26: salary cap. There's a lot of situation that we must
Speaker 26: change since the last season. Of course I'm inside, I
Speaker 26: will try. But the main thing I was thinking about
Speaker 26: in the beginning and I changed my handser. But the
Speaker 26: most important situation, it's about the understandable what is the
Speaker 26: club culture and what is the player's characteristics? First of all,
Speaker 26: when we build up a new game model in the team,
Speaker 26: so we will use what we did it well in
Speaker 26: the past. We will create with my idea, with my
Speaker 26: coaching staff support, we will create a new philosophy. In
Speaker 26: a few situations, but we can use. We have this
Speaker 26: big advantage to use the good things that they use
Speaker 26: with Steve in the past, and could be possible to
Speaker 26: approach from my ideas as soon as possible, to control
Speaker 26: the games, to have that chance to win more games.
Speaker 26: And the only thing that I could promise, even to
Speaker 26: don't choose the players, even for a different coach, even
Speaker 26: for a different culture. What I can promise is commitment
Speaker 26: and have for to be possible with the hard work,
Speaker 26: improve in the in the next games.
Speaker 4: Already, something that's been a big feature of your coaching
Speaker 4: career Page Rivers being developing young players. It's been a
Speaker 4: consistent theme throughout your career. How important does that to
Speaker 4: your vision for Oakland DEFSA.
Speaker 26: It's very important if anyone, My career starts on the
Speaker 26: development of really off young kids. I work in the
Speaker 26: small clubs in Portugal, in the youth, I work in
Speaker 26: Portuguese Federal for that, and I finish my Hugue career
Speaker 26: in Sporting and Sporting Lisbon working with nowadays international Portuguese Squad. Okay,
Speaker 26: I work with them in the beginning of the career
Speaker 26: with twelve thirteen years old. The moment that they change
Speaker 26: for seven a side for eleven side. Okay, it's really
Speaker 26: the beginning of the career. It's very interesting after that
Speaker 26: I enter in a professional professional football like an as
Speaker 26: system of Polophonsic in a different in a different roles
Speaker 26: inside of technical staff. Also that creates me and allow
Speaker 26: me to understand a lot of things that nowadays I
Speaker 26: ask for my assistance and really for me, it's very
Speaker 26: important to understand that there's a chance to bet on
Speaker 26: the young guys. But also is important and I share
Speaker 26: that with my board, I share that for the people
Speaker 26: that I have around me here in Auckland. It's important
Speaker 26: to create a good environment for that to be possible.
Speaker 26: Even when they have the responsibility to play in such
Speaker 26: a huge team like Oakland f C. They have a
Speaker 26: possibility to show their qualities and don't forget when they
Speaker 26: are young, they have to take risks, they have to
Speaker 26: have a possibility to make mistakes, and such a club
Speaker 26: like this sometimes we don't have time and space to
Speaker 26: do it.
Speaker 2: But I believe in the quality of them.
Speaker 26: I believe that could be a chance, an opportunity for
Speaker 26: all of them to increase their own qualities inside the
Speaker 26: collective idea that allows us to achieve more victories in
Speaker 26: the future, just.
Speaker 4: To finish Pedro. There are a lot of Aukland FCA
Speaker 4: fans listening to this interview. Do you have any message
Speaker 4: for them? What are we a couple of months out
Speaker 4: from the new Eye League, Sason? What is your message
Speaker 4: to the club's fans.
Speaker 26: I like to share that's very important for me to
Speaker 26: be possible field the support of the of the port,
Speaker 26: with all of the supporters of Oakland f C. When
Speaker 26: I analyzed the team, when I saw YouTube videos, when
Speaker 26: I saw documentary about Oakland f C, when I analyzed
Speaker 26: the way that they play in the past, come on,
Speaker 26: it's unbelievable. The way that they push for the team,
Speaker 26: the way that they are happy understands, the way that
Speaker 26: they create entertainment around the game of football with such
Speaker 26: a high quality like this, and the biggest example was
Speaker 26: the forty thousand that we had Understands and then the
Speaker 26: game against against Spurts. We can call it a friendly game,
Speaker 26: but that was not friendly. That was something to show
Speaker 26: really the strength that we have on the stands with
Speaker 26: such such a quality of supporters, I believe a lot.
Speaker 26: I believe a lot in the proximity I have a
Speaker 26: lot of pitm I'm really a pity that that cannot
Speaker 26: possible to see a game inside of the port. It
Speaker 26: will be a fantastic experience for me as a coach,
Speaker 26: as a fan of football to have a chance to
Speaker 26: be inside of the port. Nowadays it will be very difficult,
Speaker 26: but it's true, it's true, it's really just really, really
Speaker 26: the ever opportunity. Don't forget that. I play a lot
Speaker 26: of derbies around the world. I play romad Derby, I
Speaker 26: play in Portugal, fantastic games. I play in Ukraine against
Speaker 26: Dina Mukiev and chackdad on Edge, really the strongest teams
Speaker 26: on the country. You can feel the atmosphere. But what
Speaker 26: I saw, what I saw in the celebrations of the
Speaker 26: titles here in Oakland, it's it's really different. And I
Speaker 26: hope to be possible that the guys in the future
Speaker 26: feel the way that these players will work hard to
Speaker 26: be possible. And I want to feel the applause instead
Speaker 26: of the result, instead of the result, to fill the
Speaker 26: plows that the guys could feel every game that we
Speaker 26: achieve the maximum skill, the maximum effort in our skills
Speaker 26: to be approached, the victories in each game, so I'm
Speaker 26: very happy to be here. I'm very happy to to
Speaker 26: to share my game, to share my my my players
Speaker 26: and my team and the an our hour way of
Speaker 26: playing with these kind of supporters and I hope to
Speaker 26: be happy on the future with all of them.
Speaker 4: Well, it's wonderful to have you here. I know the
Speaker 4: club's fans are very much looking forward to watching Auckland
Speaker 4: FC with you in charge. Pedro, thank you so much
Speaker 4: for joining us today and I look forward to catching
Speaker 4: up throughout the season.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It was a pleasure. Okay, and
Speaker 2: thank you and let's go Aukland season.
Speaker 4: Let's go indeed. Pedro Moderator, new head coach of Auckland
Speaker 4: f C. Their A League season starts on Saturday, October
Speaker 4: seventeen to twenty four. News Talks they'd be back in
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Speaker 4: Ab coming up to twenty seven. Marcus Daniel one of
Speaker 4: our great tennis players. He reached the Australian Open doubles
Speaker 4: quarter finals in twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one, the
Speaker 4: Wimbledon quarter finals in twenty nineteen. He made fifteen ATP
Speaker 4: doubles finals, winning five of those. He was as ranked
Speaker 4: as high as number thirty four in the world. He
Speaker 4: won Olympic bronze with Michael Venus in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: our first Olympic tennis medal since Anthony Wilding won bronze
Speaker 4: in Stockholm in nineteen twelve. With fellow Olympia and Hugo English,
Speaker 4: Marcus Daniel founded High Impact Athletes. They work to connect
Speaker 4: the sporting world with the most rigorously evaluated charities on
Speaker 4: the planet across climate action, global health and animal welfare,
Speaker 4: and now High Impact Athletes has convened Sport one Carbon Zero,
Speaker 4: a global athlete led climate fund, which involves New Zealand
Speaker 4: athletes at these Commonwealth Games. Paul Valter, Eliza McCartney, javelin
Speaker 4: thrower Tory Morby and weightlifter to David Letti, all of
Speaker 4: who have meddled at these Games, have pledged to turn
Speaker 4: their performances into donations for climate action. With every centimeter
Speaker 4: they clear, meter they throw, and kilogram they lift, raising
Speaker 4: money for projects aimed at reducing global emissions. Marcus Daniel
Speaker 4: is with US Marcus Sport one Carbon Zero. Where did
Speaker 4: the concept of athletes linking their performances directly to climate
Speaker 4: donations come from?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Thanks Jashon. That was a hell of a roundup
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 27: So I think it's human nature to pay more attention
Speaker 27: to things if you have something writing on it. And
Speaker 27: I thought, instead of, you know, putting a few bucks
Speaker 27: towards a sporting competition, why don't we put impact on
Speaker 27: the lane. You know, you're more likely to follow an event,
Speaker 27: You're more likely to follow a performance.
Speaker 5: If you have a vested interest.
Speaker 27: So, yeah, these athletes have made these beautiful commitments where
Speaker 27: their performances on the field of plea are directly related
Speaker 27: to impact off field, and kiwis anyone around the world
Speaker 27: can make a pledge alongside them and get involved.
Speaker 4: When you approached the likes of Eliza Tory, David hay
Speaker 4: Mission and pitched the idea to them, what was their
Speaker 4: initial reaction on the whole.
Speaker 27: Really cool thing is that all of these athletes jumped
Speaker 27: at it. I think it's a common problem amongst the
Speaker 27: athlete community that a lot of athletes want to give back,
Speaker 27: they want to do good in the world, but they're
Speaker 27: usually energy poor and don't really trust the charities that
Speaker 27: they've come across that they've grown up with, and so
Speaker 27: I think this provided a really deeply researched and vetted
Speaker 27: way for them to get involved, and also just the
Speaker 27: reframing of attacking the climate problem in a really forward
Speaker 27: looking positive way. So rather than sort of trying to
Speaker 27: put a band aid over past harms, we're looking at
Speaker 27: what are the biggest leavers that we can pull on
Speaker 27: to make a difference for the future and try to
Speaker 27: make sport greener for generations to come. And I think
Speaker 27: that optimistic positive framing really really landed with athletes.
Speaker 4: Do you think there's a growing feeling among elite athletes
Speaker 4: that they have an opportunity but also a responsibility to
Speaker 4: use their profile and their platform for causes beyond the
Speaker 4: sport that they play.
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think the opportunity part is definitely becoming more
Speaker 27: known amongst athletes.
Speaker 5: The responsibility is mixed.
Speaker 27: You know, there are still a lot of athletes who
Speaker 27: are just head down and very narrowly focused on their
Speaker 27: sport and that's totally fine, right, Like, I know, how
Speaker 27: much mental focus and effort it takes just to try
Speaker 27: and sort of stay there and make a living out
Speaker 27: of sport. So I don't begrudge any athletes who just
Speaker 27: want to focus on their sport, but it is it's
Speaker 27: pretty amazing to see how many athletes are using their
Speaker 27: platforms to speak up, and not just in the climate space,
Speaker 27: but more widely. You know, an example that comes to
Speaker 27: my mind is Marcus Rashford and Great Britain talking about
Speaker 27: school lunches, and he's created a real movement there, So
Speaker 27: I think, you know, maybe it just takes a few
Speaker 27: more superstar athletes speaking out for it to become more
Speaker 27: of a trend.
Speaker 4: In terms of the climate change side of this, there
Speaker 4: has been a bit of rain in Glasgow particularly some
Speaker 4: of the trend and field that I've seen, but the
Speaker 4: backdrop is another European summer of extreme heat. Do you
Speaker 4: think athletes are now seeing climate change is something that
Speaker 4: is actually affecting their careers rather than just something which
Speaker 4: is a bit abstract to them.
Speaker 5: Yes, I do, But I also don't think it's new athletes.
Speaker 27: You know, there are plenty of surveys that can be
Speaker 27: found that show that elite athletes have been very concerned
Speaker 27: about climate issues for a long time. I think that
Speaker 27: I saw one recently that it was close to eighty
Speaker 27: percent of all athletes surveyed. We're deeply concerned about climate
Speaker 27: and the effect that had on them. So I don't
Speaker 27: think it's a new thing, but I do think, well,
Speaker 27: it seems to me anyway that there are more of
Speaker 27: these quite strange, pretty extreme events that are happening around
Speaker 27: the world and that are affecting sporting events. I mean,
Speaker 27: you know, you saw these hydration breaks at the World
Speaker 27: Cup for the first time ever. So yeah, it's sort
Speaker 27: of starting to starting to penetrate a bit more deeply
Speaker 27: into the day to day of sport.
Speaker 4: You mentioned before, Mark that some athletes have a bit
Speaker 4: of skepticism, maybe some suspicion about the charities that they
Speaker 4: are approached to become involved in. How do you make
Speaker 4: sure that the money that is raised through initiatives like
Speaker 4: this go to the right places?
Speaker 27: Yeah, well, that's where I think we have a point
Speaker 27: of difference at high impact athletes. A lot of the
Speaker 27: charity space is based on vibes, and you need the vibes, right,
Speaker 27: you give from the heart. But what we really specialize
Speaker 27: in is working with research organizations that are the most
Speaker 27: rigorous in the world. So these are organizations that spend
Speaker 27: tens of thousands of hours a year researching where the
Speaker 27: best place to give is, and all of their research
Speaker 27: is publicly available, and they come out with a very
Speaker 27: very small list of recommendations that pass all of these standards.
Speaker 27: So the upshot is, if you choose any of those
Speaker 27: organizations to contribute to, then you can be pretty much
Speaker 27: as sure as you can be in the space that
Speaker 27: your dollars doing as much as it can do.
Speaker 13: And I think.
Speaker 27: It's sort of this it's like a high performance framing
Speaker 27: of charity, and I think that's actually something that lands
Speaker 27: for athletes because athletes, you know, they pretty much every
Speaker 27: decision they make in their day is around trying to
Speaker 27: trying to find that extra zero point one percent. You know,
Speaker 27: it's a high performance lifestyle, a high performance focus, and
Speaker 27: it's just applying that same mindset to charity.
Speaker 5: So what I think we can truthfully claim is that,
Speaker 5: especially in the sport.
Speaker 27: Times charity space, we are the most impactful per dollar
Speaker 27: in the world, and athletes can be very very comfortable
Speaker 27: that anything that they choose to support through high impact
Speaker 27: athletes is amongst the best in the world.
Speaker 4: Elite sport involves a massive amount of international travel. So
Speaker 4: how do you respond to people who say, well, that's
Speaker 4: very difficult to reconcile with climate action.
Speaker 27: I think they're one hundred percent correct, And the question
Speaker 27: I'd ask those people is, would you rather that athletes
Speaker 27: did nothing or tried to do something to address it.
Speaker 5: I don't think that sport will ever be will ever
Speaker 5: not involve travel.
Speaker 27: I think the beauty of sport is that it's loved
Speaker 27: around the world, and fans of sport around the world
Speaker 27: want to see the best athletes playing on their home ground.
Speaker 27: So athletes are going to have to travel. I don't
Speaker 27: think that's ever going to change. And so the question
Speaker 27: we asked is, well, if that is the case, pragmatically,
Speaker 27: what is the best thing that we can do to
Speaker 27: try to reduce, for example, the emissions that come from
Speaker 27: aviation or from shipping, which is also a huge part
Speaker 27: of you know, getting gear and getting teams around the world. So, yeah,
Speaker 27: I think they're correct, but I also think it's better
Speaker 27: to do something than to do nothing.
Speaker 4: In the last ten years of your own professional tennis career,
Speaker 4: you donated a portion of your prize money to charity.
Speaker 4: In your final year, half of your winnings donated to
Speaker 4: help fight child poverty, animal abeuse the impacts of climate change.
Speaker 4: What led to your own perspective changing, Marcus about what
Speaker 4: success looked like beyond just winning tennis matches.
Speaker 27: Yeah, a great question. I also I had a shocker
Speaker 27: of a year in my last year, so that fifty
Speaker 27: percent was not nearly as big as I hoped it
Speaker 27: would be.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so.
Speaker 27: Through through the early stages of my professional career, I
Speaker 27: was just head down trying to make it. You know,
Speaker 27: it was really touch and go. I was sleeping on floors.
Speaker 27: I was trying to just keep the dream alive. And
Speaker 27: then when I reached the stage where, you know, I
Speaker 27: felt some sort of security in the idea that I
Speaker 27: could make a living through playing tennis. You know, I
Speaker 27: was getting to the end of the year and actually
Speaker 27: actually having a little more money in the bank account
Speaker 27: than when i'd started the year, and that was new.
Speaker 27: But when that happened, I felt this really strong urge
Speaker 27: to get back. Because sport is selfish like that, I
Speaker 27: don't think there's anyway around it, and it's necessarily selfish.
Speaker 27: You know, you're trying to outcompete everyone, even in a
Speaker 27: team situation, you're trying to outcompete.
Speaker 5: For the position that you play.
Speaker 27: And you know, I'm a competitive person by nature, but
Speaker 27: that sort of killer instinct way of being on the
Speaker 27: field of play, it never really sat perfectly with how
Speaker 27: I wanted to sort of be in general life. And so, Yeah,
Speaker 27: I felt this urge to give and didn't really know
Speaker 27: what to do with it, and ended up coming across
Speaker 27: this sort of niche in the charity space of giving effectively,
Speaker 27: so trying to make your dollars do as much as
Speaker 27: they could do. And the more I read about it,
Speaker 27: the more it resonated with me, and I realized that
Speaker 27: I needed to pull the trigger. Yeah, made a donation
Speaker 27: and then, honestly, the biggest change for me was the
Speaker 27: following year. I started with a one percent pledge, so
Speaker 27: one percent of my earnings on tour, and the moment
Speaker 27: that I internally committed to that pledge, that was that
Speaker 27: was a real turning point for me, because suddenly it
Speaker 27: meant that every match that I won, Okay, it was
Speaker 27: great for me. I was ambitious. I wanted to, you know,
Speaker 27: get to the top of the world in tennis. So
Speaker 27: there was all of that sort of personal benefit, but
Speaker 27: there was also this really small piece that was for
Speaker 27: something so much bigger than myself. And it sounds I
Speaker 27: don't know, it sounds like a bit of a cliche
Speaker 27: or maybe I'm exaggerating it, but that actually that had
Speaker 27: a huge impact on my enjoyment of the whole process.
Speaker 27: You know, it's like getting out of bed in the
Speaker 27: morning and your body's just in pieces and you're in pain,
Speaker 27: and you need to go out and do another six
Speaker 27: hour training day, and then there's this little piece in
Speaker 27: my mind that's like, we'll just shut up and stop
Speaker 27: being a selfish prep like this is for something bigger
Speaker 27: than yourself. And yeah, ultimately it's been a huge positive
Speaker 27: in my life. Like getting to the end of the
Speaker 27: year and making those donations, figuring out what that percentage
Speaker 27: meant in dollar terms, and clicking the buttons to to
Speaker 27: get the money to where it needed to go. Those
Speaker 27: are some of the most sort of positive, beautiful moments
Speaker 27: of those years. So I don't regret a single moment.
Speaker 4: I can see why those you approached to link their
Speaker 4: performance to this sort of thing. We're convinced by by
Speaker 4: what you've just said. There, you're on the IOC Athletes
Speaker 4: Commission as well, you're having these conversations around sustainability. My
Speaker 4: gutfield Markers is that younger athletes would embrace these conversations
Speaker 4: more readily perhaps than older athletes. But are you seeing
Speaker 4: support for this sort of thing in older athletes as well?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 27: It's climate's an interesting one, right, Like, even that word
Speaker 27: I think has become a little bit polarizing in this
Speaker 27: day and age, and it's a shame that that's the case.
Speaker 27: But I've seen research recently that shows that, especially younger consumers,
Speaker 27: they would only buy from brands that they feel have
Speaker 27: a purpose driven piece of what they do.
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, I think and I hope
Speaker 5: that the younger.
Speaker 27: Generations are leaning into, you know, the wider picture and
Speaker 27: thinking more about purpose and yeah, the good that can
Speaker 27: be done in the world rather than just consumerism to finish.
Speaker 4: Then, if people are listening, they like the concept, but
Speaker 4: they're not elite athletes, I mean most of us aren't.
Speaker 4: Can every day sports fans make a meaningful contribution in
Speaker 4: the space as well?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 27: Absolutely, Like at the end of the day, a dollar
Speaker 27: is a dollar, and I'm really bullish on athletes being
Speaker 27: the leaders in this space, so you know, stepping up,
Speaker 27: putting their money where their mouth is, and then trying
Speaker 27: to bring as many people along with them on the
Speaker 27: journey as possible.
Speaker 5: So you know, for everyday people.
Speaker 27: You know, if you if you appreciated admire some of
Speaker 27: these amazing Kiwi athletes who are competing at the comm Games,
Speaker 27: then check out their campaigns, check out what they're committed
Speaker 27: to and get around them. Or if you wanted to
Speaker 27: give directly to the charities, then give give directly to
Speaker 27: the charities. Like what we care about. What I care
Speaker 27: about is that at the end of the day, good
Speaker 27: is done in the world. And I just think athletes
Speaker 27: are incredible front people to be pushing the sport sport.
Speaker 4: One carbon zero driven out of high impact the athletes. Marcus,
Speaker 4: amazing work you're doing, mate, Thanks for joining us and
Speaker 4: telling us all about it. I hope I hope that
Speaker 4: it that it grows and grows and grows.
Speaker 5: Mate.
Speaker 4: It's always good to catch.
Speaker 2: Up with you.
Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Jason, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: No, thank you, Marcus. Marcus Daniel there with us on
Speaker 4: weekend Sport twenty to three. Speaking of the Calm Games,
Speaker 4: a medal in the offing for the Silver Ferns tonight.
Speaker 4: Will it be silver? Will it be gold? They take
Speaker 4: on Jamaica in the final. Evon willerin going to preview
Speaker 4: it for us when we come back.
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Speaker 4: Talks, EDB and Weekend Sports sixteen to three. The Silver
Speaker 4: Ferns will play for the gold medal had the Commonwealth
Speaker 4: Games in Glasgow tonight after an emphatic sixty one fifty
Speaker 4: four win over England and the Semis, there are opponents
Speaker 4: in the final bit of a surprise I'll played Jamaica
Speaker 4: after they downed defending champions Australia forty six to forty five.
Speaker 4: New Zealand have already beaten Jamaica fifty three forty eight
Speaker 4: in Paul play. The last time the Silver Ferns won
Speaker 4: Commonwealth Games gold was in Deli in twenty ten. Former
Speaker 4: Silver Ferns player and coach and now Netble commentator and
Speaker 4: analyst Yvonne Willering is with us to preview this one.
Speaker 4: First of all, Yvonne, how surprised are you that it's
Speaker 4: not Australia in the final. It's Jamaica.
Speaker 28: Yeah, and I think everyone would have expected that, wouldn't
Speaker 28: they have, you know, an Australia New Zealand final. But
Speaker 28: for World's netple as a whole, I mean that it
Speaker 28: couldn't have been scripted better to have had Joe Jamaica
Speaker 28: coming through that.
Speaker 8: But what gets me is that, I mean it could
Speaker 8: have gone.
Speaker 28: Either way, to be fair, right on the buzzer, Australia
Speaker 28: had an opportunity to draw the game. But having said that,
Speaker 28: the jama I had led throughout. But now you look
Speaker 28: at it, Australia has actually done both Jamaica and New
Speaker 28: Zealand for that matter, lots of favors because in that
Speaker 28: some Corp Super League, that's where the players are getting
Speaker 28: all their experience, and certainly the Jamaican defense they took
Speaker 28: it to that Australian combination and you know, they were
Speaker 28: well aware of what they were about. They've played against
Speaker 28: them in the sun Corps Super League and it showed
Speaker 28: and so Australia must look at their league to say,
Speaker 28: do we really want so many import players because next
Speaker 28: year is World Championship here.
Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed, well Jamaica getting there. As you're saying, the
Speaker 4: game that could have gone either way. By contrast, I
Speaker 4: thought the Silver Ferns were excellent against England. What did
Speaker 4: you make of their performance in the semi.
Speaker 28: Yeah, absolutely they were. But also keep it in perspective
Speaker 28: when Australia played England, they had an easy one against
Speaker 28: them as well, So you know, England, I believe, just
Speaker 28: makes too many substitutions. So yeah, it was a situation
Speaker 28: right from the start. Though you know, New Zealand meant
Speaker 28: business and what I liked about it, We do have
Speaker 28: a main lineup. Few changes were made, one or two
Speaker 28: tweaks at times, but you know, I think that we
Speaker 28: certainly won that game as a whole, and you could
Speaker 28: see that it was a team on the mission. And
Speaker 28: Kate Heffern in particular is playing really, really well and
Speaker 28: that is why she is retaining the center berth. Like
Speaker 28: some people have criticized Rouale of Buchanan playing wing defense
Speaker 28: when she hasn't played that why she hasn't really played
Speaker 28: that at all. Reason for that is because they want
Speaker 28: I believe it's because they want to keep the Burger
Speaker 28: Jackson combination in circle because that is also really firing up,
Speaker 28: and they really want to keep Kate Heffernon at center
Speaker 28: rather than putting a back to wing defense. And it's
Speaker 28: certainly working for them. My only concern is we still
Speaker 28: have a really great reliance on Grayson WICKI.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I guess when you have Grace in the
Speaker 4: shooting circle, there must be that temptation evil mustn't there
Speaker 4: to trying, you know, to feed the bull to as
Speaker 4: often as possible. How ready will Jamaica be for that, though,
Speaker 4: That's what.
Speaker 28: That's the concern. That's to say worry, But I mean
Speaker 28: we wanted a really good final obviously, and I looked
Speaker 28: at Jamaica after that game and they were all over
Speaker 28: the place, and I was just wondering whether Jamaica feels
Speaker 28: that really has been their final, you know, and often
Speaker 28: it is really hard after such a tight game, and
Speaker 28: it was. It was a great game, you know, well
Speaker 28: in some people's eyes obviously, you know, whether they can
Speaker 28: come back and do it again against New Zealand. Now Jamaica,
Speaker 28: if they play to their full the ability and their strength.
Speaker 28: That is going to be a close encounter against New Zealand.
Speaker 28: Appreciate that the Jamaican defense they have come up against
Speaker 28: Grace and Wicki in the sun Corps Super League Super League,
Speaker 28: so in theory they should know what to expect, you know,
Speaker 28: from the New Zealand attacking end. So you know, it'll
Speaker 28: be really interesting to see. And my main thing is,
Speaker 28: you know, have Jamaica played their final already?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a very good point. What about New Zealand's trajectory,
Speaker 4: if we can call it that through the tournament? Ivan,
Speaker 4: have you seen them improve across the tournament?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 28: Absolutely, I think initially I have a look at it
Speaker 28: and you're going whoa very hesitant they still, I believe
Speaker 28: on attack play the ball back too often. I think
Speaker 28: there are opportunities playing the ball forwards. And I'm not
Speaker 28: just talking about the big boment of Grayson Wicki. I
Speaker 28: think just on the whole players need to be available earlier.
Speaker 28: I think timing has been out, but certainly it's a progression.
Speaker 28: And are they ready for the final? I think they're
Speaker 28: as ready as they possibly can be. And even you know,
Speaker 28: Hall being injured and no disrespect to her, but she
Speaker 28: was always going to sit behind the Burger Jackson combination
Speaker 28: because that has in fact been grown with every game.
Speaker 28: But certainly, you know, yeah, even in that last game
Speaker 28: Kate and not just her attacking player but also her
Speaker 28: defensive play. You know, it was really brilliant for the
Speaker 28: Ferns and if they can reproduce that effort, it is
Speaker 28: going to be I'm expecting a close encounter. But obviously
Speaker 28: we're looking for in New Zealand.
Speaker 4: To gain the gold the Burger Jackson defensive pairing. How
Speaker 4: much of a solid base has that provided for this
Speaker 4: team and how crucial will they again be tonight?
Speaker 28: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, because I think that Aiken is increasing
Speaker 28: in confidence, you know, the big timber in the back
Speaker 28: for Jamaica. She is increasing confidence and I thought she
Speaker 28: played well against Australia. So again it's a situation we'll
Speaker 28: be looking for the.
Speaker 18: Ball earlier on.
Speaker 28: But yeah, I think that you know, that combinations really
Speaker 28: works well probably in the sun Court Super League. Both
Speaker 28: those players I believe had a reasonably quiet season, although
Speaker 28: I think Jackson gained an award, some award for her
Speaker 28: Firebirds efforts. But yeah, I think that she's really come
Speaker 28: out and you know, I've probably been I'm not criticized them,
Speaker 28: but have certainly said on occasions that Jackson in particular
Speaker 28: isn't always what you call the sixty minute player like
Speaker 28: she you know, it takes time for her to come
Speaker 28: into the game. But against England, boy New Zealand set
Speaker 28: the tone. They have to do exactly the same. Against Jamaica.
Speaker 28: They've got to put and make sure that they've got
Speaker 28: a number of goals ahead of them so that Jamaica
Speaker 28: doesn't have the support of the crowd, and they will
Speaker 28: have quite a bit of support from the crowd because
Speaker 28: they always love the underdogs and obviously they would love
Speaker 28: for Jamaica to take this out.
Speaker 4: All right, great summary is always our Any problem is
Speaker 4: getting to midnight tonight New Zealand's time. I'm not preferring
Speaker 4: to Isaac klop Seed to path and I'm honest.
Speaker 28: Yeah, that's really interesting. I was going to be watching
Speaker 28: the game and it's not the same with the replayer. Normally,
Speaker 28: someone damnill tells you the results anyway. So yeah, but
Speaker 28: what a way to finish the com games really and
Speaker 28: three fair you know this is this is for netple
Speaker 28: like even like obviously we've had our lows during the
Speaker 28: season for the Silver Ferns, just to make the finals
Speaker 28: as a beggie, absolutely they haven't done it for quite
Speaker 28: a while, you know, but should they come out with
Speaker 28: goals and I'm not saying you forget about the problems
Speaker 28: within the country with a netle, but you know, it
Speaker 28: certainly is a slight icing out there. So they've worked
Speaker 28: hard for this, you know, as a whole group, not
Speaker 28: just the players but everyone else involved as well. So yep,
Speaker 28: if they can take another step up and really yeah,
Speaker 28: it's also to be fair interesting to see who the
Speaker 28: umpires are Australia and the Australian Jamaican came, they would
Speaker 28: not have been happy.
Speaker 12: With the umpires.
Speaker 28: Found it interesting that both umpires officiating were from New
Speaker 28: Zealand and normally you'd have like an English umpire and
Speaker 28: a New Zealand umpire. Appreciate now against against Jamaica, it'll
Speaker 28: probably be Australian umpires that we will get. But Bruce
Speaker 28: in the Australian game, I mean she was heavily penalized
Speaker 28: and in the end, in fact she was taken off.
Speaker 28: So will the umpires be involved in this game.
Speaker 7: I hope not.
Speaker 28: I hope that it doesn't become a totally physical encounter,
Speaker 28: and I hope we see some really skillful netball and
Speaker 28: really promote the game as it should be.
Speaker 4: I hope all of the same things, Yvonne, all of
Speaker 4: the same things. Great summary is always thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4: Enjoy the game tonight. That's Yvonn Willering previewing the gold
Speaker 4: medal match at the Commonwealth Games, the Silver Ferns up
Speaker 4: against Jamaica from midnight tonight seven and after three News
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Speaker 4: Coming up four to three. That will do us as
Speaker 4: well as our netball is track, cycling, judo and bowls
Speaker 4: on the final day of the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, so
Speaker 4: more medals hopefully up for grabs in those sports. Thanks
Speaker 4: for listening in this afternoon. Really appreciate you spending some
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Speaker 7: Mate.
Speaker 4: Enjoy some sunshine this afternoon. If in fact there is
Speaker 4: any in Auckland plenty in Wellington, I can report Anyway,
Speaker 4: enough of that. Our out song today, our exit song,
Speaker 4: silver Phone's playing Jamaica, which is where Uncle John is from.
Speaker 4: According to the song from the Vinger Boys, We'll see
Speaker 4: tomorrow night on sports Talk by Now, Uncle.
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