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Speaker 1: this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: How Are You Great? New Zealand's Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show podcast the number two six three for

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Speaker 2: the twelfth of December, a Friday. Boy, it was a

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Speaker 2: feel good show today as we celebrated some fantastic New

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Speaker 2: Zealand businesses and we talk about the concept of boy. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I've just been slamming some of the treats.

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Speaker 3: We're not That was nice to Quiller by the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not at the Christmas party that everyone else

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Speaker 2: is because we're on air. Yeah, but there were some

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Speaker 2: treats that were out in the office and one of

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Speaker 2: them just repeated on me into the microphone.

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Speaker 3: Soues it a bit of cam and beer that I

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Speaker 3: can smell. Yeah, but it can be.

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Speaker 2: A bit of vodka right then. So, yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: a great show today. So we as I was saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we lean into the idea of buying New Zealand made

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Speaker 2: Christmas presents, so then you give not only a gift

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Speaker 2: you love one, but also to a local business in

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Speaker 2: the New zeal economy.

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Speaker 3: It was good stuff. If you if you've left it

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Speaker 3: till the last minutes, make sure you listen to that

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Speaker 3: because there was some good key weeks there. But download,

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Speaker 1: Love you big stories, the big issues, the big trends

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

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Speaker 3: Me, very good afternoon to you. Welcome into today's show.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're having a great Friday afternoon where heavy

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Speaker 3: you're listening. I am, yeah, me too, me too. You

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Speaker 3: love a god for love of Friday.

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Speaker 2: I do love a Friday. But look, how do I

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Speaker 2: put this? There's the inn zidme Christmas party, the wider

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Speaker 2: company that we work for, yes here at Newstalk z B,

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Speaker 2: and they're having their Christmas party. And do you know

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Speaker 2: when they're having their Christmas party? Tell us between now

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Speaker 2: and four o'clock, which is the exact time we're on here, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 3: I mean? It feels deliberate, doesn't It feels very deliberate.

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Speaker 2: It feels pointed. Yeah, it feels like after some of

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Speaker 2: your behave if you're in some of my behavior at

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Speaker 2: previous Christmas parties. They've decided to just take the nuclear

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Speaker 2: option and make it impossible for us to be there.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a strange sensible strategy for this organization,

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Speaker 3: considering you know, we heard about the pole dancing yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you had a good time. Everyone else had a

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Speaker 3: good time. But I think HR has just said they're

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Speaker 3: too risky, too risky.

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Speaker 2: But how do they know that we don't have a

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Speaker 2: bottle of tequila under the bench here in the my

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Speaker 2: the kick ons at pace?

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Well, if they did know, then there's nobody

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Speaker 2: So in that case, I will say categorically, we do

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Speaker 6: We do not know.

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Speaker 5: We do not have that.

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Speaker 3: So if you're listening HR, which you won't, be rest

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Speaker 3: assured we will remain sober for the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: We're the only ones in the building, so basically we

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Speaker 3: Good times right to today's show. It is a doozy

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Speaker 3: for you, as it always is after three o'clock. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who will it be? Have you got some suggestions?

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Speaker 2: Fire them through on nine to nine two. It's the

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Speaker 2: most popular part of the show. That along with me

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's a winner as well.

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Speaker 3: If you want to applause that, I'll just turn that off. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So looking forward to that. And also after three o'clock

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Speaker 3: we won't ever a chat about portion sizes. So it's

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Speaker 3: research that's come out of the UK. But nutritionis here

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Speaker 2: The question here though, is, and it's a bit of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what do you do there?

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Speaker 2: Are they just going to are they going to halve

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Speaker 3: I'm a massive doggy bagger. So I love it when

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Speaker 3: You think it's cheap, uncouth. Yeah, it's on key.

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Speaker 2: We there's something about it I don't like. I'm not

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Speaker 3: I saw the photos. The chips did look good. But

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Speaker 3: that is half to three o'clock. After two o'clock, we

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Speaker 3: want to talk about Christmas gifts, but specific type of

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Speaker 3: people raising full noise to sort out the presence before

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Speaker 3: for New Zealand made Christmas gifts.

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Speaker 2: That's right. So if you get your Christmas gifts off

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Speaker 2: Amazon or something completely evil like Temu, then you know

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Speaker 2: you may be getting a gift for someone, but you're

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Speaker 2: not getting a gift for the economy. But if you

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Speaker 2: buy a New Zealand made gift, you're not only giving

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Speaker 2: a gift to the person you love, You're giving a

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Speaker 2: so let's talk about examples of great New Zealand Christmas

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Speaker 2: gifts you can get for people if you can possibly

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Speaker 2: And I've got one that I'll share that I think

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Speaker 3: How good that is? After two o'clock, Curvez, Right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about the suggestion from Brad Olsen.

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Speaker 3: So as we know the government announced earlier this month

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Speaker 3: in for Metrics, chief economist Brad Olson said there was

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Speaker 3: a certain irony about that idea. Here's the quote. It

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Speaker 3: seems like, if it's good enough for the government to

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Speaker 3: for them to cap rates on our taxes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem a little bit hypocritical. So they're saying, look,

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Speaker 2: the silly stuff as the government saying for the councils,

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Speaker 2: surely the government can do the same thing. Yeah. Do

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Speaker 2: it just means that they'll cut core services. Is efficiency

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Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? To cool?

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Speaker 3: Love to hear your thoughts on this. If it's okay

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Speaker 3: to keep the rates on councils, should they be capping

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Speaker 3: the taxes as well? Nine two nine two is that text?

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Speaker 3: And coming up very shortly, we will have a chat

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Speaker 3: to Brad Olsen who suggested this idea. So we've got

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Speaker 3: plenty of questions for him coming up next. So you've

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Speaker 3: got a question for Brad ninet two nine two is

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Speaker 3: that text?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting he doesn't have a sort of an equation

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Speaker 2: know this, I thought this was interesting. A typical dual

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Speaker 2: that's before you even shove GST on top of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. And then when you look at

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Speaker 2: So the informentials calculator the average tax bill of a

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Speaker 3: Very interesting, So keen on your views O eight hundred

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number in coming up next?

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between.

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Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd.

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Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon, sixteen past one. So a leading

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Speaker 3: economist says it's galling to see the government planning a

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Speaker 3: rates cap for councils when it's when it is imposing

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Speaker 3: no restraints on its own taxes. That man is Brad Olson,

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Speaker 3: Info Metric CEO and chief economist, and he joins us

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Speaker 3: now Brad good a good afternoon, book team.

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Speaker 2: What core economic problem do you see in the universal

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Speaker 8: Well, I certainly think it's hypocritical. The worry is well,

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Speaker 8: in a sense, is that And look, let's be very

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Speaker 8: clear at the outset. I think that the rates increases

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Speaker 8: incredibly hard for people to stomach, and we're desperately to

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Speaker 8: get them under control. But I'm worried that if you

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Speaker 8: impose this very artificial cap that doesn't recognize it. There's

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Speaker 8: a whole lot of differences in what councils do and

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Speaker 8: the types of inflation that they suffer. You're going to

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Speaker 8: get back to where Wellington was a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 8: where we don't invest enough in the right stuff. All

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Speaker 8: you've got roads that are broken up, you've got rubbish

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Speaker 8: that doesn't get picked up. I mean, that's sort of

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Speaker 8: what some councils around the country are saying if they

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Speaker 8: aren't able to sort of recover those costs, which have

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Speaker 8: been increasing faster than households than they are in a

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Speaker 8: compromised position. But the point around consistency, that's the one

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Speaker 8: Yes, I mean there's a whole lot of other things.

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Speaker 2: But that three thy eight hundred to councils isn't the

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Speaker 2: To have you know, good order around dogs, to have

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Speaker 8: Has to pitch in, which is where the rates money

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Speaker 8: look we'd have to close the pools entirely, or we'd

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Speaker 8: At some point, something's got to give, you know, Is

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Speaker 3: But it's your problem now. So it's kind of a

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Speaker 8: Why next week the Finance Minister will provide an update

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Speaker 2: We know that household inflation.

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Speaker 8: for the land that it owns, pay rates on the

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Speaker 8: stuff like everyone else does.

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Speaker 2: Or you could see the likes of GST on rates

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Speaker 2: or GST.

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Speaker 8: On building consents for example, that go back to local

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Speaker 8: government at the moment. Again, you pay your local council

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Speaker 8: for a building consent, and fifteen percent on top of

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Speaker 8: that then goes to central government just into the general

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Speaker 8: slash fund that gets spent on whatever. If you instead

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Speaker 8: put that back to local councils, that would start to

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Speaker 8: make a bit of a difference in terms of how

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Speaker 8: much money they have. I think we calculated at one

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Speaker 8: point that'd be something like a billion dollars, So that

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Speaker 8: would require central government to give up something. But again,

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Speaker 8: if we're talking about waste and pressures in government in general,

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Speaker 8: I think there's still efficiencies to be made across the board.

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Speaker 10: Brad.

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Speaker 3: It's a compelling argument and the text machine is absolutely

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Speaker 3: blowing up. So we're looking forward to what our listeners

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Speaker 3: have to say. But really appreciate you coming on mate, hey,

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Speaker 3: and if we don't catch up before the end of

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Speaker 3: the year, very merry Christmas to you, mate. Appreciate you

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Speaker 3: coming on various times this year.

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Speaker 2: Same to you and looking forward to catching up in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Go well, that is Brad Olsen, chief economist and CEO

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Speaker 3: of Informetrics. Phone lines are opened up by eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. How do you feel about his

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Speaker 3: argument that if a rates kept for councils okay, then

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Speaker 3: we need a cap on taxes. It is twenty eight

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Speaker 3: past one.

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Speaker 4: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 4: breakfast timary principles.

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Speaker 3: Payofer has been rejected.

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Speaker 11: Robin Brown is the principle of Birtuville School and a

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Speaker 11: member of the NZI negotiating team. You've been offered up

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Speaker 11: to twenty one thousand dollars plus four point six percent,

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Speaker 11: but you still want another fifteen on top of that.

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Speaker 3: What we want is recognition for the unsustainable workload and

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Speaker 3: curriculum upheable.

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Speaker 11: If they say to you we give you fifteen thousand dollars,

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Speaker 11: we will take the offer.

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Speaker 6: We will take that offer out to our principles and

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Speaker 6: see whether they would take that off.

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Speaker 2: Robin, that's a lot of money.

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Speaker 11: You guys are basically asking for an increase of thirty

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Speaker 11: six thousand dollars plus four point six percent.

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Speaker 4: No one else gets that kind of money either.

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Speaker 1: Dupusl on the Mic Hosking Breakfast Back Monday from six

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Speaker 1: am with the Defender NEWSG to two.

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Speaker 3: Diane, how are you?

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Speaker 12: Oh, not too bad toke?

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Speaker 3: That's the story. Now what are you reckon about? Council

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Speaker 3: caps on the rates and the idea of.

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Speaker 12: That they've kept the rates. I think that needed to

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Speaker 12: become because you know what these super annuent pensions they're

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Speaker 12: not weren't they weren't keeping pace what we get for

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Speaker 12: a person on their own.

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Speaker 3: So what needs to go? Diane? What do they need

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Speaker 3: to cut?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 12: What do they need to cut? Well, they need to

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Speaker 12: cut out their fresh coffees and cream cakes and doughnuts

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Speaker 12: and things like that. And they probably need to cut

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Speaker 12: out some staff and running around and the officers and

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Speaker 12: may not need they need to look at that. And

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Speaker 12: also you know have it you know, council meetings they

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Speaker 12: have evening evening kappas and whatever they whatever else they have.

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Speaker 12: You know, like that's where I need to think that

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Speaker 12: they need to cut it.

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Speaker 3: No more free lunches for the councilors fair enough to

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Speaker 3: a nd. It's pretty igh spread in some councils. I've

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Speaker 3: got to say, beg my TM as a journal, they've

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Speaker 3: got some lovely sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: Is a few cups of coffee and some cream donuts

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Speaker 2: is going to be enough of a cut.

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Speaker 3: We might need to do more than that, but Diane,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for your call, taking yours on

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Speaker 3: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty headlines with ray

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Speaker 3: Lane coming.

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Speaker 7: Up, Jew's talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis,

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Speaker 7: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Former Gloria Vale

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Speaker 7: leader Howard Temple has been sentenced to twenty six months

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Speaker 7: in prison for multiple sex offenses. Earlier this year, the

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Speaker 7: eighty five year old pleaded guilty to twelve charges, including

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Speaker 7: indecent assault and common assault. Vandals have targeted a number

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Speaker 7: of West Auckland graves, including those of Keiwe Motorsport legend

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Speaker 7: Bruce McLaren and his wife for a second time. A

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Speaker 7: christ mother stabbed to death by spurned lover can now

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Speaker 7: be named as Chontale McDonald. Nathan Bolter admitted killing her

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Speaker 7: in her Parkland's home in July he'll be sentenced in February.

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Speaker 7: One person is in a serious condition after a two

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Speaker 7: vehicle crash east of Palmerston North just after midday. Fitz

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Speaker 7: Herbert East Road is currently closed. Motorists are asked to

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Speaker 7: avoid the area. Some of timut Who's Christmas Chair has

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Speaker 7: gone up in smoke after its giant tree was torched

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Speaker 7: in a suspected arson attack. Police have arrested a thirty

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Speaker 7: year old man and say charges are being considered. Police

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Speaker 7: use twenty eight motion activated cameras during Tom Phillip's manhunt.

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Speaker 7: Read Moore at ends at Herald Premium. Back to Matteath

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Speaker 7: and Tyner Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about

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Speaker 3: an article by Brad Olsen, or at least a quote

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Speaker 3: from Brad where he mentions he sees a sutain irony

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Speaker 3: in the government forcing councils to have a rates cap

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Speaker 3: while not having their own cap on how much they

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Speaker 3: text us.

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Speaker 2: I can't deal with this issue right now, Tyler. We've

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Speaker 2: got a reno happening in my house. I can hear

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Speaker 2: there was a lot going on in your life, mate,

545
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Speaker 2: and the new floring's being put in and then they've

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Speaker 2: cut into the electricity and now they are electricity is gone.

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Speaker 2: We need to get an electrician.

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Speaker 14: You know you kidding me.

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Speaker 3: I've got bad mate. I knew you were stress. It

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Speaker 3: so outed stress.

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot to deal with here.

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Speaker 3: But you are laughing at the end of that phone call.

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Speaker 3: There's got hopefully it gets ort of mate.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got to laugh and things like that happened.

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Speaker 3: You certainly do. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: the number to call Greg wack On to the show.

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Speaker 15: Here you going boys, Yeah, good, Hey. I live in Hamilton,

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Speaker 15: and in Hamilton he's starting last year we have got

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Speaker 15: a ninety seven percent rate increase over five years. That's

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Speaker 15: it's crazy. Was twenty percent last year's fifteen percent of

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Speaker 15: this year. It's fifteen something, right, And I wrote every

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Speaker 15: single councilor even the new council, and I've only had

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Speaker 15: one response from anybody. And I lined up some of

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Speaker 15: the candidates and said, what the hell are you doing

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Speaker 15: about it?

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Speaker 16: Right?

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Speaker 15: Because there's no way people can afford that. That's why

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Speaker 15: I need a rates cap. That was the big mistake

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Speaker 15: when they made the Supercity. Was already hide made the

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Speaker 15: super City. They were going to put a cap on

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Speaker 15: rates of the rate of inflation, and that the last

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Speaker 15: minute they pulled the pin on it. And this is

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Speaker 15: the crap we get. So here in Hamilton they're going

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Speaker 15: to be separating our water rates off from our council

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Speaker 15: rates and they're only doing it from money grab to

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Speaker 15: the realty. Is the last time they separated something GoF

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Speaker 15: which was the work in a district council between the

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Speaker 15: working the regional council. Get a second set of rate

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Speaker 15: balls from them the first ship, we're up twenty eight

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Speaker 15: percent and they said, oh, I know, the rate didn't

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Speaker 15: go up, it was just a transport levy. Blah blah

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Speaker 15: blah blah blah. Yeah, in anybody, if they do that,

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Speaker 15: our rate increase won't be ninety seven percent. It'll be

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Speaker 15: more like one hundred and thirty percent. It's just not affordable.

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Speaker 15: And a lot of the things that I say as

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Speaker 15: I drive around Hamilton are ego projects, you know, yeh

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Speaker 15: you make my words.

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Speaker 2: March next year, all the.

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Speaker 15: Councils around the country that have got new councilors on

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Speaker 15: it will come up with some bloody hairbrain things that

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Speaker 15: are legacy projects. So they could have a big kid,

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Speaker 15: you know, and they do it every three years. It's

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Speaker 15: the same bloody thing, and it's just like, at least

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Speaker 15: you put some constraints on them. They don't care. They

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Speaker 15: just go willy milly spending money on anything, you know.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people, me included Greg, agree with

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Speaker 3: everything you're saying there. But do you think in this case,

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Speaker 3: and I think this is Brad's point, that he can

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Speaker 3: understand that there needs to be some restraint on local

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Speaker 3: councils and what they're spending on, but that same restraint

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Speaker 3: should apply to central government. And it feels sometimes they

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Speaker 3: get a lot of apprecia, but sometimes they get off

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Speaker 3: scot free with where their budget is allocated and where

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Speaker 3: they tax I mean, for example, the tax bracket creep.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of discussion about having that adjusted

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Speaker 3: for inflation, but they don't want to borrow that. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to borrow that because it means more money

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Speaker 3: in their coffer. But that makes sense that when inflation

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Speaker 3: starts to go up and you move up those tax

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Speaker 3: brackets and pay more tax, they need to move with that,

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Speaker 3: but they don't. So that's the point. Do you think

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Speaker 3: they escape a bit more of the criticism around where

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Speaker 3: they spend their moneys versus the councils.

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Speaker 15: For the last time the government tax I've got more

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Speaker 15: money back.

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Speaker 3: Well that's all right, then it's pretty good for you.

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Speaker 15: No, seriously answered a lot of the middle and canonies

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Speaker 15: in the country, and was the last one they gave

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Speaker 15: us a tax break? So yeah, probably they should have

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Speaker 15: a constraint on what they can choses. But I don't

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Speaker 15: think they'd get away. We're putting a twenty percent tax

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Speaker 15: rate increase on my taxes or your taxes or anybody else's,

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Speaker 15: and then next year fifteen percent, and then a year

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Speaker 15: after that fifteen percent. But they'd be out of government

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Speaker 15: within five minutes.

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Speaker 14: Wouldn't they have to be?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 15: Whereas the councils, they don't even they don't even had

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Speaker 15: a council meeting. You asked the question and they won't

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Speaker 15: answer it, and then they expel you because it's like, oh, no,

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Speaker 15: you're just a steer and it's like, oh, hang on

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Speaker 15: a second. I got banned from the Hamilton City Council

633
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Speaker 15: Facebook page and it's because I put hate and things on.

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Speaker 15: I said, no, I'm not, I'm just telling the truth

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Speaker 15: and asking questions, and I don't.

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Speaker 5: Want to know.

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Speaker 2: Can you read out one of your one of your

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Speaker 2: posts that got your band, Greg?

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Speaker 15: Oh, probably a little while ago now, Mat, So I

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Speaker 15: probably take me a way to find it.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, we're going to be great to read.

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Speaker 2: Were there any expetatives in it?

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Speaker 17: Greg?

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Speaker 15: No, No, it's like this. There's a brand new roundabout

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Speaker 15: being built up three years ago. Down the road, they've

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Speaker 15: had a new roundabout built there ten years ago. I

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Speaker 15: questioned them why they put a new one up there,

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Speaker 15: and they said for safety, and I just wrote back,

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Speaker 15: that's absolutely and rubbish. There's nothing wrong with they put

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Speaker 15: the round about and originally for safety. And then I'm

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Speaker 15: driving down there and they've got those stupid things from

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Speaker 15: the bicycle lanes. They leave a bit of concrete, you know,

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Speaker 15: overal concrete. They had to go and pull them out

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Speaker 15: because they're in the middle of the road.

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Speaker 2: So do you think that councils would be onto it

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Speaker 2: enough if you know that councils are going to be

657
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Speaker 2: onto it enough to live within their means, or do

658
00:28:44,253 --> 00:28:47,093
Speaker 2: you think that they'll keep doing the vanity projects and

659
00:28:47,533 --> 00:28:48,773
Speaker 2: just cut core services.

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Speaker 14: I don't know, to be.

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Speaker 15: Honest, I'd like to think, I'd like to think wishful

662
00:28:54,893 --> 00:28:59,693
Speaker 15: thinking that they actually started concentrating on their core business.

663
00:29:00,253 --> 00:29:04,933
Speaker 15: But you see, they also you know, like you ask

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Speaker 15: them how much money you spend on that, and they

665
00:29:09,693 --> 00:29:12,893
Speaker 15: won't tell you. I asked them on my street how

666
00:29:12,973 --> 00:29:15,493
Speaker 15: much infrastructure has been put in full and infil housing

667
00:29:15,613 --> 00:29:17,933
Speaker 15: has been like two hundred and fifty units built on

668
00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:21,333
Speaker 15: about forty or fifty houses property. And this is the

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Speaker 15: response I got from the council. Oh, that information is

670
00:29:23,693 --> 00:29:26,613
Speaker 15: hard to get. We don't know what new infrastructure, but

671
00:29:27,013 --> 00:29:29,453
Speaker 15: it'll cost you two thy nine hundred dollars for trust

672
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Speaker 15: to get the information for you.

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Speaker 2: Really, well, they should know. They should know that to

674
00:29:36,293 --> 00:29:39,333
Speaker 2: the scent, you know, if they're being efficient, you would

675
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Speaker 2: think gret know that.

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Speaker 15: I know they hadn't put any in because you don't

677
00:29:42,733 --> 00:29:44,333
Speaker 15: walk up there every day. But all they have to

678
00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:46,173
Speaker 15: do is look at the last top of a graphical

679
00:29:46,213 --> 00:29:47,253
Speaker 15: map and that'll tell you that.

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Speaker 14: It was done last.

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Speaker 15: They don't want you can only and I mean that's

682
00:29:50,453 --> 00:29:52,693
Speaker 15: just a few of the things going on around the city. Mate,

683
00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:57,013
Speaker 15: and other cities are just as bad. Towering a city council,

684
00:29:57,053 --> 00:29:59,253
Speaker 15: they've got a brand new building forty eight million dollars.

685
00:29:59,533 --> 00:30:01,413
Speaker 15: I know, and that's not called business to own it.

686
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Speaker 15: But we're going to pay the developer ninety one point

687
00:30:03,933 --> 00:30:07,453
Speaker 15: seven million dollars over fifteen years, and the building costs

688
00:30:07,533 --> 00:30:10,733
Speaker 15: forty eight million. It's just like a fifty return for

689
00:30:10,813 --> 00:30:13,773
Speaker 15: the who owns the building and the council will get nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's taken the make Greg. Thank you very much

691
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Speaker 3: for your call. Nineteen ninety two is the text, and

692
00:30:19,933 --> 00:30:23,253
Speaker 3: we're getting a few through guys. Our pool gets checked

693
00:30:23,253 --> 00:30:25,133
Speaker 3: every two years and it costs two hundred dollars. My

694
00:30:25,213 --> 00:30:27,373
Speaker 3: parents live in sell An area and their pool has

695
00:30:27,453 --> 00:30:30,213
Speaker 3: checked every seven There are eighty people employed to check

696
00:30:30,253 --> 00:30:32,333
Speaker 3: pills driving around in council vehicles.

697
00:30:32,733 --> 00:30:36,093
Speaker 2: It's it's bs. Yeah, but you know you're paying two

698
00:30:36,173 --> 00:30:39,013
Speaker 2: hundred dollars for that inspection, right, So that's on top

699
00:30:39,093 --> 00:30:42,213
Speaker 2: of rates. And then as about one hundred people are

700
00:30:42,253 --> 00:30:45,173
Speaker 2: texting and they now want to bring in congestion charges, yes,

701
00:30:45,613 --> 00:30:48,733
Speaker 2: the evil of congestion charges. And the government is supporting

702
00:30:48,813 --> 00:30:51,733
Speaker 2: their congestion charges. So then all of a sudden, the

703
00:30:51,813 --> 00:30:53,973
Speaker 2: same productive members of society are getting kicked in the

704
00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:55,413
Speaker 2: nuts for driving to work.

705
00:30:55,693 --> 00:30:59,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to pay taxes to pay this economy in

706
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Speaker 3: this country running.

707
00:31:00,373 --> 00:31:04,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's on top of everything else you've got

708
00:31:04,373 --> 00:31:06,413
Speaker 2: to pay. So no, no, this isn't at tax, this

709
00:31:06,653 --> 00:31:10,053
Speaker 2: isn't rates. This is a congestion chart.

710
00:31:10,133 --> 00:31:12,653
Speaker 3: It's about traffic. Yeah, yeah, meya break go eight one

711
00:31:12,693 --> 00:31:14,933
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

712
00:31:15,253 --> 00:31:18,093
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts? Is the rates cap on council needed

713
00:31:18,133 --> 00:31:21,493
Speaker 3: for scrutiny and should the government look at doing something similar.

714
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Speaker 2: Dirty congestion judge.

715
00:31:22,893 --> 00:31:26,613
Speaker 3: It's sixteen to two, The issues that affect you and

716
00:31:26,773 --> 00:31:28,013
Speaker 3: a bit of fun along the way.

717
00:31:28,293 --> 00:31:31,213
Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

718
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Speaker 3: Sa'd be very good afternoon due it is fourteen to two.

719
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Speaker 3: So we're talking about some quotes from Brad Olsen, one

720
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Speaker 3: of our leading economists with infometrics, and he sees there's

721
00:31:41,053 --> 00:31:42,933
Speaker 3: some irony in the government forcing the councils to have

722
00:31:43,013 --> 00:31:46,213
Speaker 3: a rates cap but not putting any constraints on themselves.

723
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Speaker 3: What do you say?

724
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Speaker 2: Is this true? What Liz is saying, Hey, guys, you've

725
00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:53,173
Speaker 2: probably had this comment, but Totonga Council spent four hundred

726
00:31:53,213 --> 00:31:56,493
Speaker 2: and eighty thousand dollars on a coffee machine, and our

727
00:31:56,613 --> 00:31:59,173
Speaker 2: rates increase for next year is nine point eight percent.

728
00:31:59,413 --> 00:32:01,813
Speaker 2: They were so happy to say, at least it wasn't

729
00:32:02,373 --> 00:32:06,093
Speaker 2: the considered twelve percent. It's not right spending on luxury

730
00:32:06,413 --> 00:32:08,693
Speaker 2: art items half a million dollars for.

731
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Speaker 3: Almost half a million on a coffee machine. I take

732
00:32:11,773 --> 00:32:12,813
Speaker 3: it there was a three year It.

733
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Speaker 2: Must have been multiple coffee machines, right, I think so,

734
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Speaker 2: because I just bought an absolute state of the art

735
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Speaker 2: coffee machine and it only cost me twelve hundred dollars.

736
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is which that's a messive saving for me earlier.

737
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Speaker 2: To be fair, it was that a black market safe.

738
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Speaker 3: I've just found the story here and right. So this

739
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Speaker 3: is from March this year. The Council accepted a five

740
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Speaker 3: year contract for coffee machines and coffee at a total

741
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Speaker 3: of four hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Wow for some

742
00:32:43,453 --> 00:32:45,533
Speaker 3: bougie coffee coffee machines for.

743
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Speaker 2: Nearly one thousand.

744
00:32:46,453 --> 00:32:47,893
Speaker 3: Let's break it down. So you spend did you say,

745
00:32:47,933 --> 00:32:48,973
Speaker 3: twelve hundred on your one?

746
00:32:51,493 --> 00:32:52,133
Speaker 2: Some quick mess?

747
00:32:52,213 --> 00:32:54,693
Speaker 3: In my head, that's a that's a heap of your

748
00:32:54,733 --> 00:32:57,013
Speaker 3: coffee machines. I mean that's one for every man in total.

749
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Speaker 2: So that must be the coffee machine and the running

750
00:32:59,933 --> 00:33:02,413
Speaker 2: of the coffee machine, right, how many people are getting

751
00:33:02,413 --> 00:33:05,293
Speaker 2: coffees from that? And what's wrong with the red ribbon roast?

752
00:33:05,773 --> 00:33:08,253
Speaker 3: Nothing wrong, Nothing wrong with a bit of griggs or red.

753
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Speaker 3: But thank you very much for their text.

754
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Speaker 2: Peter, welcome to the show.

755
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Speaker 18: Happy seasons to you. Sorry about the Christmas party. But

756
00:33:16,453 --> 00:33:19,133
Speaker 18: the thing that you guys are not looking at is

757
00:33:19,213 --> 00:33:23,893
Speaker 18: the interest and the debt servicing costs, whether it's central

758
00:33:23,973 --> 00:33:28,613
Speaker 18: government or local government. And Brad Olson, I'm afraid he

759
00:33:29,893 --> 00:33:31,573
Speaker 18: needs to go and look along with the rest of

760
00:33:31,613 --> 00:33:35,053
Speaker 18: people of New Zealand to understand the economics. And Michael

761
00:33:35,133 --> 00:33:37,853
Speaker 18: Hudson does it quite well. But if you look at

762
00:33:37,853 --> 00:33:40,693
Speaker 18: New Zealand's history, it was the first labor government that

763
00:33:40,973 --> 00:33:46,093
Speaker 18: created debt free money to build state housing, railways, road infrastructure,

764
00:33:46,653 --> 00:33:50,013
Speaker 18: plant forests. But if you play a game monopoly, you

765
00:33:50,093 --> 00:33:53,333
Speaker 18: don't go home and borrow the money off the private banks.

766
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Speaker 18: And this is what councils and governments are doing. They're

767
00:33:56,413 --> 00:33:58,973
Speaker 18: borrowing the money off the private banks when they can

768
00:33:59,053 --> 00:34:01,973
Speaker 18: create ninety eight percent of their money from nowhere. So

769
00:34:02,413 --> 00:34:06,213
Speaker 18: these people who vote for whichever color that have the

770
00:34:06,333 --> 00:34:09,212
Speaker 18: same idea that you've let the private create all the

771
00:34:09,293 --> 00:34:13,573
Speaker 18: money and you change the interest to the rate payers,

772
00:34:13,652 --> 00:34:17,333
Speaker 18: all the taxpayers, you're in a losing deal. You don't

773
00:34:17,373 --> 00:34:18,973
Speaker 18: go and do that if you play a game of

774
00:34:19,093 --> 00:34:22,933
Speaker 18: monopoly at home. And that's the critical factor. And the

775
00:34:23,493 --> 00:34:26,772
Speaker 18: Ruth Richardson or the Ministry of Finance debate that they're

776
00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:30,692
Speaker 18: not going to debate anything sensible. You know, we're getting poorer.

777
00:34:30,853 --> 00:34:34,413
Speaker 18: Look at John Key, no more taxes and GST. When

778
00:34:34,533 --> 00:34:36,773
Speaker 18: Labor introduced it, Roger Dugas say, oh, we'll give you

779
00:34:36,773 --> 00:34:38,933
Speaker 18: all the benefits and the pensions to keep up with it.

780
00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:42,013
Speaker 18: It went from ten percent, twelve and a half percent,

781
00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:46,413
Speaker 18: then fifteen percent. So everyone is getting poorer and poorer

782
00:34:46,573 --> 00:34:49,613
Speaker 18: and poor, and the richer getting richer and richer.

783
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Speaker 2: So hang on, O, can you explain again where this

784
00:34:52,813 --> 00:34:55,853
Speaker 2: money you're suggesting that the money should should come from.

785
00:34:55,933 --> 00:34:58,053
Speaker 2: This isn't it a printing money situation, is it?

786
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Speaker 18: Peter, Well, that's what they did for COVID. They created

787
00:35:02,093 --> 00:35:03,293
Speaker 18: the money from nowhere.

788
00:35:03,613 --> 00:35:07,973
Speaker 2: But they created that money from nowhere, but we definitely

789
00:35:08,013 --> 00:35:14,373
Speaker 2: paid for it and inflation and the devaluing of our

790
00:35:14,493 --> 00:35:17,413
Speaker 2: general wealth by spending it, and you know now we're

791
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:21,733
Speaker 2: paying back just interest alone as over ten billion dollars

792
00:35:22,093 --> 00:35:22,493
Speaker 2: a year.

793
00:35:23,413 --> 00:35:23,613
Speaker 10: Yeah.

794
00:35:23,693 --> 00:35:26,613
Speaker 18: Well, if you look at how the government could create

795
00:35:26,693 --> 00:35:29,093
Speaker 18: money from nowhere, which they did in COVID around the

796
00:35:29,133 --> 00:35:33,172
Speaker 18: world because they couldn't carry on financially, and they also

797
00:35:33,293 --> 00:35:37,053
Speaker 18: bail out banks. The thing is that the private banks

798
00:35:37,093 --> 00:35:40,933
Speaker 18: are creating ninety eight percent of their money approximately from nowhere,

799
00:35:41,653 --> 00:35:45,933
Speaker 18: to fund counsels, to fund people borrowing mortgages for houses.

800
00:35:46,053 --> 00:35:48,733
Speaker 18: That's what they're doing, and that's why we get inflation.

801
00:35:48,973 --> 00:35:54,493
Speaker 18: So in nineteen twelve, for example, one US dollars roughly

802
00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:57,733
Speaker 18: has the buying power of one cent today. That's what

803
00:35:57,973 --> 00:36:01,533
Speaker 18: inflation does, and it's not on the goal standard. If

804
00:36:01,573 --> 00:36:04,013
Speaker 18: you have a private bank, you correct money from nowhere.

805
00:36:04,013 --> 00:36:06,973
Speaker 18: And I can remember asking one regional manager of a bank,

806
00:36:07,053 --> 00:36:10,213
Speaker 18: I said, what skill in your job? You create ninety

807
00:36:10,213 --> 00:36:14,533
Speaker 18: eight percent of your money from nowhere. The government can

808
00:36:14,613 --> 00:36:18,093
Speaker 18: make customers be bailed in all the government will bow

809
00:36:18,133 --> 00:36:21,093
Speaker 18: you out. You're too big to fail, too big to jail.

810
00:36:21,653 --> 00:36:24,133
Speaker 18: And there's no competition worth respect to money in the

811
00:36:24,213 --> 00:36:26,333
Speaker 18: sense that the governor of the reserve bank sits the

812
00:36:26,453 --> 00:36:29,893
Speaker 18: interest rate. And he said to me oh, I never

813
00:36:29,973 --> 00:36:31,973
Speaker 18: thought about it like that, but it takes me eighteen

814
00:36:32,053 --> 00:36:35,973
Speaker 18: months to get an appointment with my banking chief executive.

815
00:36:36,053 --> 00:36:39,853
Speaker 18: So these banks, you know that they get bailed out

816
00:36:39,893 --> 00:36:43,013
Speaker 18: by the taxpath, but counsels need to have a cheaper

817
00:36:43,133 --> 00:36:45,773
Speaker 18: form of funding and the government can do that.

818
00:36:46,693 --> 00:36:50,213
Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, Peter. I was listening to this.

819
00:36:50,453 --> 00:36:52,213
Speaker 2: It was actually with three days in a Row with

820
00:36:52,733 --> 00:36:55,773
Speaker 2: referenced this guy which is a professor Scott Galloway, smart

821
00:36:55,813 --> 00:36:58,813
Speaker 2: man who's an economist and a professor of marketing. But

822
00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:00,613
Speaker 2: he's made a lot of money. But he was saying,

823
00:37:01,093 --> 00:37:06,533
Speaker 2: in Western societies, the real reflection of inflation and how

824
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:11,973
Speaker 2: crazily the dollars have been devalued is in house prices,

825
00:37:12,733 --> 00:37:15,293
Speaker 2: So that that is something where where you can where

826
00:37:15,413 --> 00:37:17,413
Speaker 2: it's just gone astronomical. The rest of it is kind

827
00:37:17,413 --> 00:37:21,733
Speaker 2: of hidden from you, yes, but the absolute astronomical explosion

828
00:37:21,813 --> 00:37:24,292
Speaker 2: in house prices, you know they've come back a little

829
00:37:24,293 --> 00:37:30,053
Speaker 2: bit now, is a factor of the devaluing of you know,

830
00:37:30,573 --> 00:37:32,293
Speaker 2: our money, and you see that in the wealth of

831
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,172
Speaker 2: a country. Yeah, every Western country in the wild.

832
00:37:34,253 --> 00:37:36,453
Speaker 3: Just see that, Peter. Thank you very much. It is

833
00:37:36,613 --> 00:37:38,853
Speaker 3: eight minutes to two taking more of your calls on

834
00:37:39,013 --> 00:37:40,973
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty beag fory.

835
00:37:41,013 --> 00:37:45,493
Speaker 1: Surely Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight

836
00:37:45,613 --> 00:37:46,692
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty.

837
00:37:46,813 --> 00:37:49,813
Speaker 4: It's mad Heath and Tylor Adams afternoons news.

838
00:37:49,693 --> 00:37:52,453
Speaker 2: Dogs be five to two. Brian says, where is this

839
00:37:52,493 --> 00:37:54,493
Speaker 2: guy coming from? The ninety eight percent can just be

840
00:37:54,613 --> 00:37:57,173
Speaker 2: created from nowhere and COVID the money was borrowed. The

841
00:37:57,253 --> 00:38:02,293
Speaker 2: government cannot just create money. This guy is talking voodoo economics.

842
00:38:02,773 --> 00:38:04,813
Speaker 2: Printing money is not the same as borrowing that went

843
00:38:05,453 --> 00:38:07,773
Speaker 2: on during COVID. Any money printer doesn't need to be

844
00:38:07,853 --> 00:38:10,692
Speaker 2: paid back. But the devalue in the New Zealand dollar

845
00:38:11,213 --> 00:38:13,213
Speaker 2: is the problem. It gets diluted.

846
00:38:13,413 --> 00:38:16,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very fair. Text Alan, We've got about sixty seconds.

847
00:38:16,573 --> 00:38:17,053
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

848
00:38:18,413 --> 00:38:22,093
Speaker 19: I reckon Peter was partially wrong. If a council falls over,

849
00:38:22,213 --> 00:38:25,773
Speaker 19: the government always steps in and backs it up. So

850
00:38:26,613 --> 00:38:29,253
Speaker 19: it's not just banks. That's what central government's there for.

851
00:38:29,573 --> 00:38:31,853
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yep, carry up.

852
00:38:32,253 --> 00:38:32,453
Speaker 20: Yeah.

853
00:38:32,973 --> 00:38:36,893
Speaker 19: As for councils, yes, we pay for our rubbish and

854
00:38:37,013 --> 00:38:38,973
Speaker 19: separate it used to be part of the rates, but

855
00:38:39,093 --> 00:38:41,533
Speaker 19: it was separated off. We pay a private company to

856
00:38:41,573 --> 00:38:44,613
Speaker 19: pick up our rubbish. Our rubbish stump used to be free.

857
00:38:44,973 --> 00:38:49,172
Speaker 19: Now we pay to take our rubbish there. So there's

858
00:38:49,213 --> 00:38:51,252
Speaker 19: all those costs. But you have to stop and think

859
00:38:51,533 --> 00:38:55,253
Speaker 19: what do you want your council to provide for us community?

860
00:38:55,813 --> 00:38:59,613
Speaker 19: And work it backwards. The same with central government. What

861
00:38:59,773 --> 00:39:04,333
Speaker 19: do you want central government to provide? Then work it backwards.

862
00:39:04,853 --> 00:39:07,533
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Allan. Yeah, and then add

863
00:39:07,613 --> 00:39:10,172
Speaker 2: on to that congestion charges. I can't believe. I mean

864
00:39:10,213 --> 00:39:13,692
Speaker 2: that's your thought on that across council and central government. Yeah,

865
00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:16,573
Speaker 2: just kicking the productive members of society a lot of

866
00:39:16,573 --> 00:39:18,812
Speaker 2: the enough over and over again.

867
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Speaker 3: Good luck to them on there. Great discussion, Thank you

868
00:39:21,733 --> 00:39:24,493
Speaker 3: to everyone who called in. Text coming up after two

869
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:26,773
Speaker 3: o'clock it's going to be a great discussion. Should you

870
00:39:27,413 --> 00:39:30,133
Speaker 3: be buying New Zealand made gifts for Christmas?

871
00:39:30,253 --> 00:39:30,493
Speaker 2: Time?

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. One hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty nine two is the text New Sport and Weather

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Speaker 3: coming up. Great debut. Company is always hope you're having

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Speaker 3: a great Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 4: It'd be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons here, welcome back into the show. Six

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Speaker 3: past two.

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Speaker 2: So we're just going through all the nominations for News

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Speaker 2: on the Week that are coming through on nine two

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Speaker 2: nine two. It's a flood and thank you so much

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Speaker 2: from your input on our the most popular part of

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Speaker 2: the week. Yeah, we've discovered in recent weeks.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on as the judges deliberate. When

887
00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:16,453
Speaker 3: I say judges, I mean the soul judge, Matt Heath.

888
00:40:16,493 --> 00:40:17,973
Speaker 3: So you've got a lot to think about, mate, I

889
00:40:18,053 --> 00:40:20,173
Speaker 3: appreciate it. But that is coming up after three o'clock.

890
00:40:20,253 --> 00:40:22,373
Speaker 3: Looking forward to that because right now we want to

891
00:40:22,373 --> 00:40:24,732
Speaker 3: have a chat about this. It is Christmas and people

892
00:40:24,733 --> 00:40:26,773
Speaker 3: are a bit frantic at the moment because most of

893
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Speaker 3: us wait till about a couple of weeks out before

894
00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:32,333
Speaker 3: we have to wraith full noise into the Mauls and

895
00:40:32,453 --> 00:40:34,533
Speaker 3: various areas of New Zealand to try and sort out

896
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Speaker 3: Christmas parents before our Christmas presents, before the big day rides.

897
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Speaker 3: But before you dive into the usual last minute rush,

898
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Speaker 3: maybe it's worth slowing down just for a moment and

899
00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:47,093
Speaker 3: thinking about who are you actually giving your money to.

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00:40:47,453 --> 00:40:51,413
Speaker 2: That's correct, Tyler Well, that's an interesting suggestion, Tyler.

901
00:40:51,453 --> 00:40:52,333
Speaker 3: Should I say yeah.

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00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:54,133
Speaker 2: The discussion on whether it's going to be correct we'll

903
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:55,173
Speaker 2: be up to you on o E. One hundred and

904
00:40:55,173 --> 00:40:59,093
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two. But there

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00:40:59,293 --> 00:41:05,133
Speaker 2: are many many New Zealand manufacturers out there, makers of

906
00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:09,573
Speaker 2: potential Christmas presents for people. And if you should choose

907
00:41:09,773 --> 00:41:12,893
Speaker 2: to buy a New Zealand made Christmas present, not only

908
00:41:12,933 --> 00:41:15,853
Speaker 2: are you giving a gift to the loved one you're

909
00:41:15,853 --> 00:41:19,373
Speaker 2: giving a gift to You are also giving a gift

910
00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:22,213
Speaker 2: to a New Zealand manufacturer and a gift to the

911
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Speaker 2: New Zealand economy. Yes, and more than likely you're getting

912
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Speaker 2: something better than the absolute crap you'll probably buy that's

913
00:41:29,853 --> 00:41:33,573
Speaker 2: being brought in from overseasp your TMU and your Amazons

914
00:41:34,013 --> 00:41:37,013
Speaker 2: and a you're off the shelf rubbish that just gets

915
00:41:37,093 --> 00:41:42,853
Speaker 2: thrown into landfill. So should you consider spending a little

916
00:41:42,853 --> 00:41:45,653
Speaker 2: bit more and maybe buying a few less items, but

917
00:41:45,773 --> 00:41:51,493
Speaker 2: spending it within New Zealand and on stuff made lovingly

918
00:41:51,893 --> 00:41:54,493
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. And if that's the case, I one

919
00:41:54,573 --> 00:41:57,213
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty give us some examples of

920
00:41:57,533 --> 00:42:00,933
Speaker 2: some things you're looking at buying or you know, if

921
00:42:00,973 --> 00:42:05,413
Speaker 2: you're a New Zealand manufacturer, something that you're making that

922
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Speaker 2: could be brought as a present to hear from.

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Speaker 3: You, because there's a lot of people listening. We've got

924
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Speaker 3: a lot of people listening to this show. We've got

925
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Speaker 3: to say so, and a lot of them will be

926
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Speaker 3: thinking cheap is what do I get other family for Christmas?

927
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Speaker 3: So if you are in the game and you do

928
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Speaker 3: produce something right here in beautiful old New Zealand, can

929
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Speaker 3: to have a chat with you one hundred and eighteen

930
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Speaker 3: eighty and ull share.

931
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Speaker 2: I'll share a New Zealand manufacturer coming up very soon

932
00:42:30,013 --> 00:42:34,253
Speaker 2: who I have regularly bought presents from, yep, because they

933
00:42:34,373 --> 00:42:36,533
Speaker 2: make their stuff here in New Zealand and it's incredibly

934
00:42:37,093 --> 00:42:41,493
Speaker 2: incredible quality and in their presence that bring a lot

935
00:42:41,533 --> 00:42:44,573
Speaker 2: of joy and health benefits. So I'll tell you what

936
00:42:44,693 --> 00:42:45,413
Speaker 2: that is coming up.

937
00:42:45,493 --> 00:42:47,453
Speaker 3: This is tempting, this is sounding very tempting. Oh, eight

938
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

939
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Speaker 3: You make a very logical argument that it's a win

940
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Speaker 3: win win when you buy New Zealand made. So if

941
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:56,813
Speaker 3: you it's important to you to buy products that are

942
00:42:56,813 --> 00:42:58,733
Speaker 3: made in New Zealand for your Christmas gifts? What are

943
00:42:58,773 --> 00:43:01,973
Speaker 3: you buying? And if you are a manufacturer, a producer,

944
00:43:02,093 --> 00:43:04,973
Speaker 3: a creator in this country of ours, really can you

945
00:43:05,013 --> 00:43:05,933
Speaker 3: hear from you? And what's on offer?

946
00:43:06,253 --> 00:43:09,772
Speaker 2: This sexer says, as a present for voucher slash cash

947
00:43:09,933 --> 00:43:13,533
Speaker 2: rather than getting landfall stuff from Timu. Also, in this way,

948
00:43:13,933 --> 00:43:17,693
Speaker 2: the people will likely spend it locally in retail and hospitality.

949
00:43:18,013 --> 00:43:22,053
Speaker 2: You know that's true. Yes, please buy local and thoughtfully.

950
00:43:22,893 --> 00:43:25,013
Speaker 2: We are peanut butter lovers in our house, so we

951
00:43:25,293 --> 00:43:28,813
Speaker 2: load up on picks peanut butter, the choice one and

952
00:43:29,653 --> 00:43:31,653
Speaker 2: they are great stuffing fillers.

953
00:43:31,773 --> 00:43:33,093
Speaker 3: Oh, I love some picks peanut butter.

954
00:43:33,173 --> 00:43:36,253
Speaker 2: Actually they've said stuffing stickers. They mean stuffing stickers or

955
00:43:36,253 --> 00:43:40,133
Speaker 2: stuff stuffing fillers because peanut butter is sticky, so you're

956
00:43:40,173 --> 00:43:42,373
Speaker 2: not puting you're not just spooning that peanut butter into

957
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:43,253
Speaker 2: the stocking age you.

958
00:43:43,413 --> 00:43:45,293
Speaker 3: Hope not pretty hard to eat out of the stock

959
00:43:45,333 --> 00:43:47,813
Speaker 3: and once you spoon it in. And they also said chocky. Yeah,

960
00:43:47,933 --> 00:43:50,212
Speaker 3: so chocky is the right choice. Oh I see, yeah,

961
00:43:50,213 --> 00:43:52,893
Speaker 3: the chocky chocky one. Yeah, the dessert peanut butter. Oh,

962
00:43:53,133 --> 00:43:53,893
Speaker 3: good times I.

963
00:43:53,973 --> 00:43:57,093
Speaker 2: Read it about a primary primary school level, don't I

964
00:43:57,213 --> 00:44:01,853
Speaker 2: We're getting there though. The worst present that my parents

965
00:44:01,893 --> 00:44:04,813
Speaker 2: ever got me, right, and love you guys so much,

966
00:44:05,653 --> 00:44:08,773
Speaker 2: you know rop mum, I love you and was probably

967
00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:12,693
Speaker 2: her purchase knowing her, but she bought a locally grown

968
00:44:12,893 --> 00:44:16,613
Speaker 2: cactus and that was at the top of my stocking

969
00:44:16,693 --> 00:44:20,213
Speaker 2: Christmas stockings and I reached in and grabbed the spiky,

970
00:44:20,293 --> 00:44:24,253
Speaker 2: hairy cactus around the hound and injured myself.

971
00:44:24,373 --> 00:44:27,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's a beautiful gift. I wouldn't mind

972
00:44:27,493 --> 00:44:29,573
Speaker 3: a locally growing cactus of anyone's listening.

973
00:44:29,653 --> 00:44:31,253
Speaker 2: But well, it was the gift of a lesson as

974
00:44:31,293 --> 00:44:33,933
Speaker 2: well from because you know, it taught me not just

975
00:44:34,053 --> 00:44:37,013
Speaker 2: to reach into the dark and clutch stuff without having

976
00:44:37,013 --> 00:44:38,093
Speaker 2: a look first to see what it is.

977
00:44:38,173 --> 00:44:39,733
Speaker 3: You know, your mum was a very smart woman. Oh

978
00:44:39,733 --> 00:44:42,093
Speaker 3: had one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Should you be

979
00:44:42,173 --> 00:44:44,453
Speaker 3: buying New Zealand made gifts for Christmas? And if you

980
00:44:44,573 --> 00:44:46,573
Speaker 3: have already really keen to hear from.

981
00:44:46,413 --> 00:44:49,853
Speaker 2: You, don't forget about buying New Zealand hams for Christmas?

982
00:44:49,933 --> 00:44:51,212
Speaker 2: Support New Zealand.

983
00:44:51,173 --> 00:44:52,493
Speaker 3: Farmers, yeap, so true.

984
00:44:52,693 --> 00:44:55,293
Speaker 2: Definitely check and you're buying a ham that it's not

985
00:44:55,453 --> 00:44:59,533
Speaker 2: imported and also supplementary question for me, anyone out there

986
00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:02,893
Speaker 2: selling a mutton Ham Mutton Hams. I'm a huge fan.

987
00:45:03,013 --> 00:45:04,253
Speaker 2: We know them when we're growing up.

988
00:45:04,293 --> 00:45:04,973
Speaker 3: I know you love them.

989
00:45:05,053 --> 00:45:07,213
Speaker 2: I haven't seen too many mutton Hams around Auckland, but

990
00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:11,053
Speaker 2: there are well. I feel like Mutton is appreciated more

991
00:45:11,093 --> 00:45:13,533
Speaker 2: in the South Island. Yeah, Mutton pies and mutton Hams.

992
00:45:13,533 --> 00:45:15,453
Speaker 3: It's a deeper richness to it, the old Mutton.

993
00:45:15,573 --> 00:45:17,373
Speaker 2: So if you've seen or selling a mutton Ham, then

994
00:45:17,613 --> 00:45:19,293
Speaker 2: I've got some business business for you.

995
00:45:19,413 --> 00:45:21,693
Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two et tex number back very shortly. It

996
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Speaker 3: is twelve past two.

997
00:45:24,053 --> 00:45:28,212
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

998
00:45:28,453 --> 00:45:31,453
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks B.

999
00:45:33,373 --> 00:45:36,973
Speaker 3: News Talks there B. It is fourteen fifteen, now past two,

1000
00:45:37,133 --> 00:45:40,413
Speaker 3: and we are talking about buying New Zealand made gifts.

1001
00:45:40,453 --> 00:45:41,853
Speaker 3: If that's you love to hear from you on oh,

1002
00:45:41,853 --> 00:45:43,173
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty This.

1003
00:45:43,293 --> 00:45:46,613
Speaker 2: Texas is Marcus is obsessed with Muttenham. He knows where

1004
00:45:46,653 --> 00:45:50,533
Speaker 2: to get them. That's from Gilly Marcus, last great New Zealander. Yeah,

1005
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:53,652
Speaker 2: that sort of suggests what I'm saying, you know, because

1006
00:45:53,653 --> 00:45:54,373
Speaker 2: he's bluff hard.

1007
00:45:54,573 --> 00:45:54,652
Speaker 19: Ye.

1008
00:45:54,813 --> 00:45:56,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's almost as south as you can get.

1009
00:45:56,853 --> 00:46:00,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely well he is. Now he's moved down there. Yeah.

1010
00:46:00,933 --> 00:46:03,652
Speaker 2: The muttonham I'm going to I'll reach out to Marcus

1011
00:46:03,733 --> 00:46:06,573
Speaker 2: Lash and find out where he's getting his mutton hams from.

1012
00:46:06,653 --> 00:46:07,493
Speaker 3: Send him all we text.

1013
00:46:07,533 --> 00:46:11,213
Speaker 2: People laugh at you smirk my hands, but they are fantastic.

1014
00:46:11,333 --> 00:46:13,453
Speaker 2: It's it's different, it's different and better.

1015
00:46:13,533 --> 00:46:16,253
Speaker 3: If you ask me, can you explain the difference between

1016
00:46:16,413 --> 00:46:21,053
Speaker 3: a normal pig ham versus a mutton ham? The flavor profile.

1017
00:46:21,693 --> 00:46:23,652
Speaker 2: The key difference. Tyler is ones made out of a peg,

1018
00:46:23,733 --> 00:46:25,373
Speaker 2: ones made out of a sheep.

1019
00:46:25,773 --> 00:46:27,693
Speaker 3: I've just got to note down, all right, The different

1020
00:46:27,733 --> 00:46:29,973
Speaker 3: makes sense. The difference in flavor, it's hard to put

1021
00:46:30,013 --> 00:46:32,373
Speaker 3: your your finger on it is a deeper is a

1022
00:46:32,493 --> 00:46:32,973
Speaker 3: game here?

1023
00:46:33,173 --> 00:46:33,293
Speaker 5: Is it?

1024
00:46:33,413 --> 00:46:38,413
Speaker 3: Not quite as salty ham sweet hams are very traditional.

1025
00:46:38,493 --> 00:46:41,253
Speaker 3: Hands are very sweet meat. Mutton traditionally has been.

1026
00:46:41,453 --> 00:46:42,813
Speaker 2: Well it deppans if you glaze it. A lot of

1027
00:46:42,813 --> 00:46:45,053
Speaker 2: the sweetness comes from the glazing, I'd say, And you

1028
00:46:45,093 --> 00:46:46,453
Speaker 2: can glaze up a mutton ham as well.

1029
00:46:46,453 --> 00:46:47,773
Speaker 3: If you want, what do you glaze it with? Do

1030
00:46:47,813 --> 00:46:49,772
Speaker 3: you go golden syrup in a you know a little

1031
00:46:49,813 --> 00:46:50,693
Speaker 3: bit of honey.

1032
00:46:51,133 --> 00:46:53,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I've I've got a glazing technique.

1033
00:46:53,773 --> 00:46:55,493
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we might be getting off topic there.

1034
00:46:56,613 --> 00:46:59,813
Speaker 2: I've messed up glazing in the past, okay, but you

1035
00:46:59,893 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 2: know I do glaze them. The glazing game is strong now.

1036
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:05,573
Speaker 2: But I don't think you need to glaze. I also

1037
00:47:05,613 --> 00:47:06,813
Speaker 2: don't think you need to glaze a ham.

1038
00:47:06,893 --> 00:47:08,853
Speaker 3: It's good enough by itself, and it's in a semi

1039
00:47:09,253 --> 00:47:10,732
Speaker 3: you can you can roar dog a ham.

1040
00:47:12,573 --> 00:47:15,172
Speaker 2: Number raw dog a mutton ham.

1041
00:47:15,293 --> 00:47:17,533
Speaker 3: Yeah sounds good. Simon. How are you mate?

1042
00:47:18,493 --> 00:47:19,732
Speaker 14: Yeah, very good. Thanks guys.

1043
00:47:20,653 --> 00:47:22,773
Speaker 3: And what's your product? What do you what do you

1044
00:47:22,893 --> 00:47:24,413
Speaker 3: buy for your friends and family?

1045
00:47:25,813 --> 00:47:27,053
Speaker 14: Waste cheese out of a.

1046
00:47:28,533 --> 00:47:32,973
Speaker 16: Fantastic Yeah, New Zealand maids all made with local Ortago milk.

1047
00:47:33,893 --> 00:47:38,253
Speaker 16: We're I'm calling from the headquarters here and yeah, we've

1048
00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:41,373
Speaker 16: got eighty staff all picking and pecking and making cheese

1049
00:47:41,693 --> 00:47:42,293
Speaker 16: all year round.

1050
00:47:42,653 --> 00:47:44,053
Speaker 14: One made.

1051
00:47:44,693 --> 00:47:46,893
Speaker 2: And do you have a sort of a Christmas pack,

1052
00:47:47,333 --> 00:47:49,652
Speaker 2: a variety pack that people can order?

1053
00:47:50,693 --> 00:47:53,653
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, we've got this Leisay wooden gift box or

1054
00:47:53,693 --> 00:47:55,373
Speaker 16: six cheese is in it and you can jump on

1055
00:47:55,413 --> 00:47:57,773
Speaker 16: our website and grab it and yeah, we ship them

1056
00:47:57,813 --> 00:48:02,172
Speaker 16: all around the country and they really appreciated the arrive,

1057
00:48:02,933 --> 00:48:05,093
Speaker 16: you know, all child wrapped and all that and just

1058
00:48:05,213 --> 00:48:07,573
Speaker 16: enough cheese to see all for the summer season.

1059
00:48:07,653 --> 00:48:08,252
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's great.

1060
00:48:08,493 --> 00:48:12,293
Speaker 2: See that's a fantastic gift because people are entertaining over Christmas,

1061
00:48:12,333 --> 00:48:14,253
Speaker 2: aren't they. So you get a gift, yeah, I mean

1062
00:48:14,413 --> 00:48:17,373
Speaker 2: then you immediately can can you can use it? You

1063
00:48:17,533 --> 00:48:20,493
Speaker 2: never have enough, rather than having it in the recycling

1064
00:48:20,573 --> 00:48:22,733
Speaker 2: bin on boxing day like people do with most of

1065
00:48:22,773 --> 00:48:23,253
Speaker 2: the gifts.

1066
00:48:24,813 --> 00:48:24,973
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1067
00:48:25,013 --> 00:48:27,133
Speaker 14: No, it's great for going away to the bench and stuff.

1068
00:48:27,173 --> 00:48:29,533
Speaker 16: It's just not to get your throw and getting people

1069
00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:32,133
Speaker 16: around and socializing and everyone wants to have a planner

1070
00:48:32,173 --> 00:48:33,893
Speaker 16: and does will fill it with our good New Zealand

1071
00:48:33,893 --> 00:48:34,533
Speaker 16: product on top.

1072
00:48:34,933 --> 00:48:36,413
Speaker 3: Hey, I love you Kevin Beer. So I just had

1073
00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:38,493
Speaker 3: to look at your website and and you're sold out

1074
00:48:38,533 --> 00:48:40,773
Speaker 3: of the eight hundred grams. Have you got any you

1075
00:48:40,893 --> 00:48:42,293
Speaker 3: know in the in the back room that you might

1076
00:48:42,373 --> 00:48:42,733
Speaker 3: hold for me?

1077
00:48:43,693 --> 00:48:44,213
Speaker 7: Yeah, it might be.

1078
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:46,212
Speaker 14: It might be to saw you out at the back there. Yeah,

1079
00:48:46,253 --> 00:48:48,653
Speaker 14: the places like centers, little grotto. At the moment, everyone's

1080
00:48:48,733 --> 00:48:52,373
Speaker 14: running around, she's fine everywhere. Yeah, like we're getting like

1081
00:48:52,493 --> 00:48:53,973
Speaker 14: two carriers turning up at a time.

1082
00:48:54,813 --> 00:48:57,053
Speaker 2: Then I love, Yeah, this is this is a great,

1083
00:48:57,293 --> 00:49:03,333
Speaker 2: great story. What what percentage of your businesses around Christmas time? Simon, Yeah,

1084
00:49:03,533 --> 00:49:04,053
Speaker 2: good question.

1085
00:49:04,213 --> 00:49:09,333
Speaker 16: Probably, Oh you're getting up around twenty teenth, just December.

1086
00:49:09,533 --> 00:49:12,973
Speaker 16: It just something switches if everyone wants cheese and we

1087
00:49:13,093 --> 00:49:16,692
Speaker 16: spend whole year preparing for it, building stocks in the winter,

1088
00:49:16,973 --> 00:49:18,813
Speaker 16: we make certain stocks then, and then we make more

1089
00:49:18,853 --> 00:49:21,773
Speaker 16: white mold in the summer. So yeah, and it's just

1090
00:49:21,853 --> 00:49:23,453
Speaker 16: all hands for the pump right through the summer, and

1091
00:49:23,533 --> 00:49:25,253
Speaker 16: then you sort of take stock in the one term

1092
00:49:25,293 --> 00:49:27,453
Speaker 16: for the next year, and each year we decide to

1093
00:49:27,493 --> 00:49:29,453
Speaker 16: get better and better try and meet demand.

1094
00:49:29,693 --> 00:49:31,933
Speaker 2: When's the last courier pick up?

1095
00:49:32,973 --> 00:49:33,493
Speaker 16: I think it's.

1096
00:49:33,653 --> 00:49:35,853
Speaker 14: I think it's late next week. I think yeah, I

1097
00:49:35,893 --> 00:49:37,413
Speaker 14: think it was. I just saw an email the other

1098
00:49:37,493 --> 00:49:39,853
Speaker 14: day from our team saying, yeah, this is a close

1099
00:49:39,893 --> 00:49:40,293
Speaker 14: off date.

1100
00:49:41,493 --> 00:49:41,853
Speaker 5: But yeah.

1101
00:49:41,973 --> 00:49:43,653
Speaker 16: You sign up onto our website, you'll get all the

1102
00:49:43,733 --> 00:49:45,573
Speaker 16: updates and regular send outs.

1103
00:49:45,613 --> 00:49:47,172
Speaker 14: With all of that, it's yeah, we've got the cheese

1104
00:49:47,173 --> 00:49:47,652
Speaker 14: club as well.

1105
00:49:47,733 --> 00:49:50,413
Speaker 16: You can give gifts of cheese arriving every month, so

1106
00:49:50,653 --> 00:49:52,173
Speaker 16: give your auntie or your family.

1107
00:49:52,293 --> 00:49:53,933
Speaker 14: Hey, here you go. To gift that keeps on giving

1108
00:49:53,973 --> 00:49:54,533
Speaker 14: throughout the year.

1109
00:49:54,773 --> 00:49:56,933
Speaker 3: How good. Now, a little bit off topic here, but

1110
00:49:57,253 --> 00:50:00,693
Speaker 3: the white mold, So I mean this might be trade secrets,

1111
00:50:00,733 --> 00:50:02,853
Speaker 3: but is that separate to the old cheese making. You

1112
00:50:02,973 --> 00:50:05,172
Speaker 3: create the white mold for the camerabier separately and then

1113
00:50:05,173 --> 00:50:05,853
Speaker 3: it all goes together.

1114
00:50:07,093 --> 00:50:10,173
Speaker 16: Yes, And the white mold comes and from France penicillium candium,

1115
00:50:10,933 --> 00:50:12,573
Speaker 16: it comes in and we add it to the milk

1116
00:50:12,653 --> 00:50:15,253
Speaker 16: in the vat and then we mature the cheese at

1117
00:50:15,293 --> 00:50:18,773
Speaker 16: twelve degrees and in that environment the mold and high humidity,

1118
00:50:19,293 --> 00:50:21,373
Speaker 16: the mold grows on the surface and then when you

1119
00:50:21,453 --> 00:50:23,333
Speaker 16: wrap it the pat that that down and it's a

1120
00:50:23,413 --> 00:50:24,173
Speaker 16: natural protectent.

1121
00:50:25,093 --> 00:50:25,652
Speaker 14: And that's the one.

1122
00:50:25,693 --> 00:50:27,493
Speaker 16: There was some dramas that it were starting to die

1123
00:50:27,573 --> 00:50:30,212
Speaker 16: off in France, like the mother strain. It's now bino

1124
00:50:30,373 --> 00:50:33,573
Speaker 16: strain and it's being replicated over and over and now

1125
00:50:33,653 --> 00:50:37,333
Speaker 16: it's they've actually solved it. They've done some DNA sequencing

1126
00:50:37,493 --> 00:50:38,053
Speaker 16: or something like that.

1127
00:50:38,213 --> 00:50:41,653
Speaker 3: In France cheesemaking, there's a lot that goes into it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm just on your website, Winstone Cheese

1129
00:50:45,373 --> 00:50:47,373
Speaker 2: dot com. You can let's just say that this isn't

1130
00:50:47,493 --> 00:50:48,773
Speaker 2: paid for informercial anything.

1131
00:50:48,853 --> 00:50:51,453
Speaker 3: This is this is just a chat celebrating good New

1132
00:50:51,533 --> 00:50:52,453
Speaker 3: Zealanders doing good things.

1133
00:50:53,053 --> 00:50:55,213
Speaker 2: Simon's not just ruing. He's just rung in, you know.

1134
00:50:55,573 --> 00:50:57,813
Speaker 2: Isn't one of those ones you know. Anyway, I'm just

1135
00:50:57,853 --> 00:51:02,652
Speaker 2: looking at your cheesecakes. But they're actually they're actually just cheesecakes.

1136
00:51:02,653 --> 00:51:06,933
Speaker 2: They're not a cheesecake. They're just big round cheese celebration cake.

1137
00:51:07,013 --> 00:51:07,212
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1138
00:51:07,453 --> 00:51:11,173
Speaker 16: Yeah, we actually had to dedicate people to help brides

1139
00:51:11,773 --> 00:51:13,693
Speaker 16: design and the colors of the cake. You can go

1140
00:51:13,773 --> 00:51:16,493
Speaker 16: with the Brian maid's dress, you can go with you know,

1141
00:51:16,773 --> 00:51:19,573
Speaker 16: the theme of the day like so yeah, and they're great.

1142
00:51:19,613 --> 00:51:21,893
Speaker 16: So people, rather than having a sweet or move away

1143
00:51:21,893 --> 00:51:24,133
Speaker 16: from sugar, you have a stack of cheese and then

1144
00:51:24,133 --> 00:51:26,293
Speaker 16: you've got all the cheese afterwards for the after party

1145
00:51:26,453 --> 00:51:27,813
Speaker 16: and it flows on.

1146
00:51:28,253 --> 00:51:31,213
Speaker 14: Guests can take slices away. So yeah, they go really well.

1147
00:51:32,093 --> 00:51:34,573
Speaker 2: Oh good on you, good on your Simon. Windstone Cheese

1148
00:51:34,613 --> 00:51:37,893
Speaker 2: dot Com. If you want to make Simon even busier

1149
00:51:37,933 --> 00:51:40,853
Speaker 2: before Christmas, Yeah, they're.

1150
00:51:40,653 --> 00:51:42,613
Speaker 14: Gonna, they're gonna they're gonna make me take us.

1151
00:51:42,693 --> 00:51:46,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, god speed man, good luck. What a great care

1152
00:51:46,093 --> 00:51:48,333
Speaker 3: Winstone Cheese oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1153
00:51:48,413 --> 00:51:50,013
Speaker 3: is the number to call. We're talking about buying New

1154
00:51:50,133 --> 00:51:54,613
Speaker 3: Zealand made products and gifts this Christmas. If you're in manufacturing,

1155
00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:56,933
Speaker 3: your producer, product, your creative, can you hear from you

1156
00:51:57,013 --> 00:51:58,293
Speaker 3: how is business going at the moment?

1157
00:51:58,453 --> 00:52:01,253
Speaker 2: The stix is Matt out from butchery, have mutton Hams

1158
00:52:01,573 --> 00:52:03,573
Speaker 2: out from? What a beautiful place set up in Auckland?

1159
00:52:03,773 --> 00:52:05,333
Speaker 3: No, no, how dare you?

1160
00:52:05,533 --> 00:52:09,413
Speaker 2: It's just outside of Dneda. It's nice, beautiful spot out from.

1161
00:52:09,453 --> 00:52:11,893
Speaker 2: It's the fancy pants place to live these days. Actually yep,

1162
00:52:11,973 --> 00:52:13,733
Speaker 2: it's about two degrees warmer than it is in the

1163
00:52:13,773 --> 00:52:14,893
Speaker 2: city speaking.

1164
00:52:15,013 --> 00:52:17,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, it is twenty one past two. But

1165
00:52:17,693 --> 00:52:19,413
Speaker 3: taking more of your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1166
00:52:19,573 --> 00:52:21,933
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Should you be buying New Zealand made gifts

1167
00:52:22,013 --> 00:52:24,253
Speaker 3: this Christmas? Beg very shortly.

1168
00:52:28,213 --> 00:52:31,573
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1169
00:52:31,653 --> 00:52:33,813
Speaker 1: eighty eight on news Talk ZB.

1170
00:52:33,693 --> 00:52:35,613
Speaker 3: Twenty three pasts too, just to quip me a culpa

1171
00:52:35,773 --> 00:52:37,733
Speaker 3: from white Stone Cheese.

1172
00:52:37,933 --> 00:52:39,732
Speaker 2: Yes, Whitestone dot com.

1173
00:52:40,013 --> 00:52:43,293
Speaker 3: Yes, not like Winston, No, Winstone, good people, white Stone

1174
00:52:43,413 --> 00:52:45,373
Speaker 3: down in Omoru, beautiful cheese.

1175
00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:49,973
Speaker 2: The study. New Zealand made c NC machined aluminium spud gun.

1176
00:52:50,413 --> 00:52:54,453
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, great fun, that's buddy. I got a aluminium

1177
00:52:54,933 --> 00:52:58,173
Speaker 2: spud gun for Christmas one year, and I don't know

1178
00:52:58,253 --> 00:53:00,493
Speaker 2: why people are more people aren't running around with spud guns.

1179
00:53:00,533 --> 00:53:02,173
Speaker 2: It's so good. So you just shove it in the

1180
00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:05,292
Speaker 2: in the potato, yep, and then you fire it at someone.

1181
00:53:05,773 --> 00:53:09,373
Speaker 2: And you know, at the Heath family is generally three

1182
00:53:09,453 --> 00:53:14,252
Speaker 2: to four different types of potato involved. There's new potatoes,

1183
00:53:14,613 --> 00:53:19,653
Speaker 2: there's scalloped potatoes, and and there's also a pile of

1184
00:53:19,733 --> 00:53:23,133
Speaker 2: mashed potato. So you know, if you can add a

1185
00:53:23,213 --> 00:53:26,253
Speaker 2: few kids firing raw spuds at each other, which just

1186
00:53:26,413 --> 00:53:28,772
Speaker 2: really really sets off the Christmas vibe.

1187
00:53:29,333 --> 00:53:31,093
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1188
00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:34,133
Speaker 3: call Christmas May. New Zeala made Christmas guess, Peter, how

1189
00:53:34,173 --> 00:53:34,333
Speaker 3: are you?

1190
00:53:36,053 --> 00:53:36,212
Speaker 7: Oh?

1191
00:53:36,333 --> 00:53:39,333
Speaker 10: Good guy? There was a good chap that you had,

1192
00:53:39,453 --> 00:53:40,813
Speaker 10: were Whitestone.

1193
00:53:40,693 --> 00:53:43,333
Speaker 3: Very good for style, mate, very good.

1194
00:53:44,573 --> 00:53:46,493
Speaker 10: I waited ten minutes to say.

1195
00:53:46,333 --> 00:53:48,253
Speaker 2: That it was worth it. It was so worth it.

1196
00:53:48,733 --> 00:53:52,133
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Mutt in the hands. You didn't

1197
00:53:52,293 --> 00:53:56,653
Speaker 10: soon go to a local butcher shop that cures his

1198
00:53:57,013 --> 00:54:00,573
Speaker 10: own hands, and you're you're going to have to be

1199
00:54:00,693 --> 00:54:03,893
Speaker 10: quick because the problem is going to be sourcing the mutton.

1200
00:54:04,293 --> 00:54:06,933
Speaker 10: There's a lot of muttons have kind of disappeared off

1201
00:54:07,013 --> 00:54:12,413
Speaker 10: the shelves now and they've gone into production for different

1202
00:54:12,613 --> 00:54:16,053
Speaker 10: areas that they need as opposed to selling sides and

1203
00:54:16,733 --> 00:54:20,252
Speaker 10: roads and all that. So where before teen years ago

1204
00:54:20,413 --> 00:54:25,053
Speaker 10: was three to four very really you'll see now in

1205
00:54:25,173 --> 00:54:27,613
Speaker 10: shops unless cure the old things.

1206
00:54:29,213 --> 00:54:31,013
Speaker 2: What do you think of my chances of finding a

1207
00:54:31,133 --> 00:54:35,173
Speaker 2: mutton Ham in Auckland on the on the twelfth December

1208
00:54:36,453 --> 00:54:38,293
Speaker 2: on topic New Zealand.

1209
00:54:38,333 --> 00:54:42,293
Speaker 10: Mate, No, you might get some Australian mutton. I know

1210
00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:45,973
Speaker 10: you fit of that around, but yeah, I think you've

1211
00:54:45,973 --> 00:54:50,213
Speaker 10: had a struggle at this time unless he's Watcher is

1212
00:54:50,253 --> 00:54:56,413
Speaker 10: specifically selling button hams, and I would have trash Marcus

1213
00:54:56,533 --> 00:55:00,973
Speaker 10: last with Courcy mutton nams. No, he's super dick South

1214
00:55:01,053 --> 00:55:01,493
Speaker 10: for anything.

1215
00:55:01,773 --> 00:55:03,773
Speaker 3: That's a fair point. He's a massive gatekeeper as well,

1216
00:55:03,853 --> 00:55:05,533
Speaker 3: so even if you ring him, he's not going to

1217
00:55:05,573 --> 00:55:09,053
Speaker 3: tell you a sort of don't you run for.

1218
00:55:09,093 --> 00:55:16,652
Speaker 2: Here on a Muttonham agenda. Thanks for it for that text, Peter,

1219
00:55:16,773 --> 00:55:18,893
Speaker 2: and I'll refrain some saying that was good it from you,

1220
00:55:19,013 --> 00:55:22,333
Speaker 2: that would be that would be cheap. So I appreciate that, Peter.

1221
00:55:22,333 --> 00:55:23,333
Speaker 3: Well played and great goal.

1222
00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 2: Please consider artwork from Sarah C Art for gifting New

1223
00:55:27,053 --> 00:55:30,373
Speaker 2: Zealand made and created inspired artworks. Sarah C is a

1224
00:55:30,493 --> 00:55:33,413
Speaker 2: Munga Fi artist. Artworks are suitable for hanging indoor or

1225
00:55:33,493 --> 00:55:37,613
Speaker 2: outdoor garden artwork Sarah C Design dot co dot n

1226
00:55:37,773 --> 00:55:39,652
Speaker 2: Z bit of New Zealand. Art's a pretty good option,

1227
00:55:39,773 --> 00:55:40,013
Speaker 2: isn't it?

1228
00:55:40,093 --> 00:55:42,053
Speaker 3: Definitely yep? That says I love you to a lot

1229
00:55:42,093 --> 00:55:44,213
Speaker 3: of people. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty If you

1230
00:55:45,013 --> 00:55:47,813
Speaker 3: produce things in New Zealand, whether it's a product or

1231
00:55:47,893 --> 00:55:50,453
Speaker 3: you're creative like Sarah C, love to hear from you,

1232
00:55:51,253 --> 00:55:54,013
Speaker 3: give your business a shout because we're asking the question

1233
00:55:54,053 --> 00:55:56,533
Speaker 3: should people buy New Zealand made gifts? And this is

1234
00:55:56,573 --> 00:55:58,733
Speaker 3: your opportunity to tell them what's out there. So love

1235
00:55:58,773 --> 00:56:00,293
Speaker 3: to hear from you. I eight one hundred eighty ten

1236
00:56:00,373 --> 00:56:02,493
Speaker 3: eighty nine two ninety two is the text number.

1237
00:56:02,653 --> 00:56:05,253
Speaker 2: The perfect exmus gift is a New Zealand hadn't it

1238
00:56:05,293 --> 00:56:08,252
Speaker 2: a beautiful jumper or gift voucher from sisters that knit

1239
00:56:08,933 --> 00:56:09,093
Speaker 2: or right?

1240
00:56:09,133 --> 00:56:09,533
Speaker 3: Good people?

1241
00:56:09,613 --> 00:56:11,453
Speaker 2: Send that on it. Are we going to the news now?

1242
00:56:11,573 --> 00:56:12,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to the headlines.

1243
00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:18,652
Speaker 2: Eh okay, Well after the headlines, I'll unpaid pump up

1244
00:56:18,773 --> 00:56:21,773
Speaker 2: the tires of a New Zealand manufacturer that makes a

1245
00:56:21,933 --> 00:56:24,813
Speaker 2: fantastic Christmas present. As we say, if you if you

1246
00:56:24,933 --> 00:56:26,893
Speaker 2: buy a gift from a New Zealand manufacturer, you're not

1247
00:56:26,973 --> 00:56:28,732
Speaker 2: only giving a gift to your loved ones, you're also

1248
00:56:28,813 --> 00:56:32,013
Speaker 2: giving a gift to a fellow New Zealand business. So

1249
00:56:32,173 --> 00:56:34,093
Speaker 2: effectively given a gift to the New Zealand economy.

1250
00:56:34,173 --> 00:56:36,773
Speaker 3: So beautiful thing. Headlines with railing coming up. We are

1251
00:56:36,853 --> 00:56:39,453
Speaker 3: of course taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty eight.

1252
00:56:41,853 --> 00:56:45,533
Speaker 7: You talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

1253
00:56:45,653 --> 00:56:48,933
Speaker 7: no trouble with a blue bubble. The disgraced former leader

1254
00:56:49,013 --> 00:56:51,453
Speaker 7: of Gloria Vale has been sent to prison for more

1255
00:56:51,493 --> 00:56:54,973
Speaker 7: than two years after admitting to a raft of sex offenses.

1256
00:56:55,453 --> 00:56:58,973
Speaker 7: Howard temple pleaded guilty to twelve charges earlier this year.

1257
00:56:59,813 --> 00:57:03,453
Speaker 7: Workers First Unions not satisfied with the just announced minimum

1258
00:57:03,573 --> 00:57:07,133
Speaker 7: wage increase to twenty three dollars and ninety five cents.

1259
00:57:07,613 --> 00:57:10,813
Speaker 7: General Secretary Dennis Marger says it still isn't enough to

1260
00:57:10,893 --> 00:57:15,133
Speaker 7: pay the bills. Two people are facing serious charges after

1261
00:57:15,213 --> 00:57:19,413
Speaker 7: allegedly using Facebook marketplace to kidnap and rob someone in

1262
00:57:19,493 --> 00:57:22,893
Speaker 7: Auckland last night. The victim had arranged via the social

1263
00:57:22,973 --> 00:57:26,973
Speaker 7: media platform to buy a vehicle. A kick start heading

1264
00:57:27,013 --> 00:57:30,533
Speaker 7: into Christmas for the retail sector after a busy November.

1265
00:57:31,053 --> 00:57:34,133
Speaker 7: Stats n Z retail card spending figures for last month

1266
00:57:34,453 --> 00:57:37,253
Speaker 7: show a one point six percent increase in total retail

1267
00:57:37,373 --> 00:57:41,213
Speaker 7: sales on the same time last year. A warning to

1268
00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:44,733
Speaker 7: steer well clear of shellfish from the Eastern Bay of Plenty,

1269
00:57:45,133 --> 00:57:48,453
Speaker 7: New Zealand food safety reports increased tocks and levels been

1270
00:57:48,493 --> 00:57:52,493
Speaker 7: eating most shellfish, including mussels, oysters and kenna could cause

1271
00:57:52,573 --> 00:57:57,293
Speaker 7: serious illness. Contractor to be appointed to rebuild fire hit

1272
00:57:57,653 --> 00:58:01,813
Speaker 7: New World Victoria Park, Seymour at zid Herald Premium back

1273
00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:03,173
Speaker 7: to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

1274
00:58:03,253 --> 00:58:06,173
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean. So is it important for

1275
00:58:06,253 --> 00:58:09,213
Speaker 3: you to buy New Zealand made gifts a of Christmas?

1276
00:58:09,573 --> 00:58:12,093
Speaker 3: And if you make or produce or create something here

1277
00:58:12,133 --> 00:58:13,413
Speaker 3: in New Zealand love to hear from you. Oh one

1278
00:58:13,453 --> 00:58:14,893
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty Hey.

1279
00:58:14,853 --> 00:58:17,293
Speaker 2: Guys, why doesn't Matt put his phone on silence during work.

1280
00:58:17,613 --> 00:58:19,733
Speaker 2: The pings from his phone are really annoying. I'd rather die.

1281
00:58:19,813 --> 00:58:21,133
Speaker 2: Text to them, put my phone on silent.

1282
00:58:21,413 --> 00:58:23,653
Speaker 3: That's a big gun. The ever, that's a mass. What

1283
00:58:23,693 --> 00:58:24,773
Speaker 3: do they want your firstborn chop.

1284
00:58:24,853 --> 00:58:29,293
Speaker 2: You'll have to put my phone on silent by ripping

1285
00:58:29,333 --> 00:58:30,693
Speaker 2: it from my cold dead hand.

1286
00:58:31,853 --> 00:58:33,773
Speaker 3: If anything, you're just going to increase the volume, aren't you.

1287
00:58:33,933 --> 00:58:35,653
Speaker 2: By which I mean sorry, I will put it on silent.

1288
00:58:35,693 --> 00:58:38,613
Speaker 3: A good, good suggestion. I've just got a suggestions Christmas.

1289
00:58:38,653 --> 00:58:40,053
Speaker 2: But I've just got a lot of emergencies at home

1290
00:58:40,093 --> 00:58:41,773
Speaker 2: with the home reno at the moment, and there's a

1291
00:58:41,773 --> 00:58:43,253
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of people texting me.

1292
00:58:43,373 --> 00:58:44,653
Speaker 3: There's a lot going on in your life.

1293
00:58:44,853 --> 00:58:48,453
Speaker 2: My gym's texting me about a certain issue with the

1294
00:58:48,533 --> 00:58:50,133
Speaker 2: flaws got sorted. I don't know.

1295
00:58:50,253 --> 00:58:50,613
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1296
00:58:51,213 --> 00:58:53,573
Speaker 2: Someone wants trying to get an electrician around all the house.

1297
00:58:53,613 --> 00:58:55,093
Speaker 2: All the power in the house has gone off when

1298
00:58:55,133 --> 00:58:58,573
Speaker 2: the flooring people have cut a wire accidentally. Yeah, there's

1299
00:58:58,573 --> 00:58:59,893
Speaker 2: a lot going on. There is a lot going on

1300
00:58:59,973 --> 00:59:03,333
Speaker 2: in your Apologies from that highly highly unprofessional now I

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00:59:03,413 --> 00:59:07,573
Speaker 2: said that the company, that New Zealand company that I

1302
00:59:07,733 --> 00:59:11,053
Speaker 2: buy Christmas presents from as as I keep saying. You know,

1303
00:59:11,213 --> 00:59:12,453
Speaker 2: you give a gift to a loved one and you

1304
00:59:12,493 --> 00:59:15,613
Speaker 2: give a gift to a New Zealand business by buying

1305
00:59:15,693 --> 00:59:20,053
Speaker 2: their products. Yes, and it's do not disturb Sleep company.

1306
00:59:20,373 --> 00:59:23,253
Speaker 2: Do not disturb sleep dot com. That's do not disturb

1307
00:59:23,333 --> 00:59:26,813
Speaker 2: sleep dot com. And they make these wise Will sleep

1308
00:59:26,933 --> 00:59:30,573
Speaker 2: masks completely manufactured in New Zealand out of their factory

1309
00:59:31,053 --> 00:59:34,293
Speaker 2: and Auckland, and their products are so good. I have

1310
00:59:34,773 --> 00:59:37,853
Speaker 2: my my sleep masks that they make on every night.

1311
00:59:38,253 --> 00:59:41,333
Speaker 2: It's so nice to have on your face and and

1312
00:59:41,573 --> 00:59:44,653
Speaker 2: it just makes sleeping so much better. You know, you

1313
00:59:44,733 --> 00:59:47,293
Speaker 2: don't know how those little lights around your room are

1314
00:59:47,413 --> 00:59:49,173
Speaker 2: keeping you awake. They do all these studies and they

1315
00:59:49,213 --> 00:59:51,413
Speaker 2: find just even the little light on your charger, Yes,

1316
00:59:52,173 --> 00:59:55,813
Speaker 2: your brain is unconsciously registering it and not going to

1317
00:59:55,973 --> 00:59:59,773
Speaker 2: the sleep, deep sleep that you need right to fully recuperate.

1318
00:59:59,853 --> 01:00:04,813
Speaker 2: So these these masks so good, They're fantastic. They've got

1319
01:00:04,853 --> 01:00:07,013
Speaker 2: like they've got a bunch of other products as well,

1320
01:00:07,413 --> 01:00:12,813
Speaker 2: like these these all will pull all wool pillows and

1321
01:00:13,453 --> 01:00:17,933
Speaker 2: douve inners and such. You know, they've got weighted imasks

1322
01:00:17,973 --> 01:00:23,293
Speaker 2: as well, and pillow duvets body pillows.

1323
01:00:23,613 --> 01:00:26,453
Speaker 3: This sounds amazing. Anyone who uses New Zealand wool in

1324
01:00:26,453 --> 01:00:29,093
Speaker 3: their products, they need to be hero. It's fantastic. We

1325
01:00:29,253 --> 01:00:31,653
Speaker 3: love wool in this country. We need to be using

1326
01:00:31,653 --> 01:00:33,773
Speaker 3: it more because such a great product, such a great product.

1327
01:00:33,813 --> 01:00:36,613
Speaker 2: So we seriously. And I know my kids aren't watching,

1328
01:00:36,733 --> 01:00:39,533
Speaker 2: but I'm about to get them a little pack for Christmas.

1329
01:00:39,893 --> 01:00:42,093
Speaker 2: When I say watching you they might be watching the radio.

1330
01:00:42,133 --> 01:00:44,533
Speaker 2: Some people watch the radio, but I mean listen listening.

1331
01:00:45,733 --> 01:00:48,013
Speaker 2: But yeah, you got a of the company. You've got

1332
01:00:48,013 --> 01:00:50,333
Speaker 2: a bit of duck involved as well. Duck feathers are

1333
01:00:50,533 --> 01:00:53,053
Speaker 2: involved as well in the pillows, so there's New Zealand

1334
01:00:53,133 --> 01:00:56,413
Speaker 2: ducks and sheep involved. Yeah, the companies do not disturb

1335
01:00:56,493 --> 01:00:58,373
Speaker 2: Sleep dot Com. Fantastic stuff.

1336
01:00:58,453 --> 01:01:00,853
Speaker 3: How great key we's doing it doing it well? Oh

1337
01:01:00,853 --> 01:01:03,333
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1338
01:01:03,973 --> 01:01:06,733
Speaker 2: Buying New Zealand made, especially from small handmade businesses, can

1339
01:01:06,773 --> 01:01:09,973
Speaker 2: make a huge difference. Is this text to someone. I

1340
01:01:10,133 --> 01:01:13,653
Speaker 2: have a small handmade dolls, closed business where I sew

1341
01:01:13,693 --> 01:01:16,573
Speaker 2: everything myself and go to various markets around the North

1342
01:01:16,653 --> 01:01:18,693
Speaker 2: Island and to see the little faces light up as

1343
01:01:18,693 --> 01:01:21,013
Speaker 2: the real bars. I also have a website, the Dole

1344
01:01:21,093 --> 01:01:23,413
Speaker 2: Boutique dot cot and said, where I sell to those

1345
01:01:23,493 --> 01:01:26,693
Speaker 2: who can't make it to market. It's hard work, but

1346
01:01:26,853 --> 01:01:29,453
Speaker 2: I love doing what I'm doing. That's from gem.

1347
01:01:29,813 --> 01:01:33,093
Speaker 3: What a great person gym is gid A Rita. Hey,

1348
01:01:33,173 --> 01:01:34,413
Speaker 3: how are you very good?

1349
01:01:35,773 --> 01:01:37,773
Speaker 5: So I actually have a little fun story for you

1350
01:01:37,853 --> 01:01:39,653
Speaker 5: about the Do Not Disturb Sleep Company.

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01:01:40,013 --> 01:01:41,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love a fun story.

1352
01:01:42,293 --> 01:01:45,413
Speaker 5: Yeah, So do Not Disturb Sleep Company get their wool

1353
01:01:45,453 --> 01:01:49,333
Speaker 5: from Wisewall. Now, when wisewallsaurce their wall, obviously they take

1354
01:01:49,413 --> 01:01:52,253
Speaker 5: all the beautiful wall for Do Not Disturb and other

1355
01:01:52,293 --> 01:01:55,333
Speaker 5: furniture manufacturing. But obviously there's the underside of the sheep,

1356
01:01:55,373 --> 01:01:58,053
Speaker 5: the bellies and the pieces. So we work with them

1357
01:01:58,173 --> 01:02:01,133
Speaker 5: exclusively and take all the bellies and pieces so the

1358
01:02:01,453 --> 01:02:03,853
Speaker 5: farmers give a better farmgate return. So the whole fleece

1359
01:02:03,933 --> 01:02:07,173
Speaker 5: gets used and we turn those bellies and pieces into

1360
01:02:07,173 --> 01:02:08,333
Speaker 5: beautiful garden products.

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01:02:10,573 --> 01:02:13,133
Speaker 2: What kind of garden products? Reader, So we're.

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01:02:13,013 --> 01:02:15,413
Speaker 5: Called the Stain and Growth So we do walk garden products.

1363
01:02:15,413 --> 01:02:18,893
Speaker 5: So that's everything from your multi metting for weed prevention

1364
01:02:19,093 --> 01:02:21,413
Speaker 5: to save you time so you can like plant and

1365
01:02:21,493 --> 01:02:23,813
Speaker 5: walk away and of spray and walk away or we

1366
01:02:23,933 --> 01:02:27,653
Speaker 5: do wool palettes that infuse that n't help let enrich

1367
01:02:27,733 --> 01:02:30,333
Speaker 5: the soil. And then we also do a whole gift

1368
01:02:30,493 --> 01:02:34,533
Speaker 5: range based around gardening, so we'll kneeling pads, a garden

1369
01:02:34,613 --> 01:02:37,533
Speaker 5: bar projects, you get this really cool cocktail kit. You

1370
01:02:37,653 --> 01:02:39,973
Speaker 5: get wool, pots, seeds to get everything you need to

1371
01:02:40,093 --> 01:02:42,973
Speaker 5: grow herbs to make cocktails and then you can drink cocktails.

1372
01:02:43,613 --> 01:02:43,773
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:02:46,493 --> 01:02:48,693
Speaker 5: Yes, we have a really big gift range as well

1374
01:02:48,733 --> 01:02:51,893
Speaker 5: as the home garden range, and we'll use the underbellies

1375
01:02:51,933 --> 01:02:54,613
Speaker 5: and pieces so none of the fleece goes to waste.

1376
01:02:54,693 --> 01:02:56,733
Speaker 5: And we do that in partnership with companies like do

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Speaker 5: not Disturb.

1378
01:02:58,253 --> 01:03:02,293
Speaker 2: Well do you put so when you say beds, so

1379
01:03:02,413 --> 01:03:05,373
Speaker 2: you'd lay that down on top of the bed that

1380
01:03:05,413 --> 01:03:07,973
Speaker 2: you're planting, and you know, stops the weeds coming through

1381
01:03:08,053 --> 01:03:09,253
Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff. Is that one of the

1382
01:03:09,253 --> 01:03:10,893
Speaker 2: products he's talking about, So we do.

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01:03:11,333 --> 01:03:13,893
Speaker 5: So for example, where tomato growpeck So you get your

1384
01:03:14,013 --> 01:03:16,853
Speaker 5: wool with pre space planting holes in it, so it's

1385
01:03:16,973 --> 01:03:19,053
Speaker 5: like taint by numbers. You lay the you put the

1386
01:03:19,093 --> 01:03:21,533
Speaker 5: fertilizer down that comes in the kit, you put the

1387
01:03:21,573 --> 01:03:24,413
Speaker 5: wool meting down, you plant in the pre space holes

1388
01:03:24,893 --> 01:03:26,413
Speaker 5: and you can walk away, so you don't need to

1389
01:03:26,493 --> 01:03:28,533
Speaker 5: wed that summer of your low on time. The wall

1390
01:03:28,613 --> 01:03:31,653
Speaker 5: keeps the moisture in the ground and it also acts

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01:03:31,693 --> 01:03:32,893
Speaker 5: as a slow release fertilizer.

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Speaker 3: A good.

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01:03:34,293 --> 01:03:34,493
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:03:34,813 --> 01:03:37,013
Speaker 3: And so the Christmas gift, God, I'm just having a

1395
01:03:37,093 --> 01:03:39,053
Speaker 3: look now, and just give us the website.

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01:03:38,653 --> 01:03:43,533
Speaker 5: Again www dot Sustain and Grow dot co dot inz.

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01:03:44,013 --> 01:03:47,053
Speaker 2: So if you went to do Not Disturb sleep dot

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01:03:47,093 --> 01:03:49,253
Speaker 2: com and bought the face mask or one of their pillows,

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01:03:49,293 --> 01:03:51,293
Speaker 2: and then then you went to you guys sustain a

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01:03:51,533 --> 01:03:54,133
Speaker 2: Grow dot co, dot and Z, you'd begin, you'd begin

1401
01:03:54,213 --> 01:03:55,493
Speaker 2: the whole sheep. Yeah, you begin.

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01:03:55,693 --> 01:03:59,533
Speaker 3: Everything is yeah, fantastic, that's what we love.

1403
01:04:00,013 --> 01:04:02,453
Speaker 2: And then and then if I get a mut if

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01:04:02,493 --> 01:04:03,693
Speaker 2: I get a mutton hand as well.

1405
01:04:03,933 --> 01:04:07,013
Speaker 3: Ye, you guys are doing all of you, particularly you mates.

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01:04:07,973 --> 01:04:10,293
Speaker 5: But it's not just you know when you're shot from

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01:04:10,293 --> 01:04:12,533
Speaker 5: the small businesses that we're like with the New Zealand.

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01:04:12,853 --> 01:04:14,733
Speaker 5: We're all working together as well, you know, you know

1409
01:04:14,773 --> 01:04:18,373
Speaker 5: it's each other as competition, but if we can help

1410
01:04:18,413 --> 01:04:20,893
Speaker 5: each other build, then the economy is just better.

1411
01:04:21,093 --> 01:04:24,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, ecosystem. It feels good. It feels good. To

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01:04:24,053 --> 01:04:26,773
Speaker 3: be talking about this REATA absolutely Now I'll just fill

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01:04:26,853 --> 01:04:29,293
Speaker 3: that out in case people will put the er. So

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01:04:29,413 --> 01:04:34,053
Speaker 3: it's s U S T A I N A grow,

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01:04:34,253 --> 01:04:36,853
Speaker 3: sustain and grow with an A but fantastic great work reader.

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01:04:37,813 --> 01:04:39,333
Speaker 5: No, well then thank you for your time today.

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01:04:39,413 --> 01:04:41,813
Speaker 3: You go well, Happy Christmas to you. Oh eight hundred

1418
01:04:41,893 --> 01:04:43,413
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is a numbered of caller. You got

1419
01:04:43,453 --> 01:04:46,813
Speaker 3: a business out there that makes beautiful New Zealand products,

1420
01:04:47,533 --> 01:04:49,133
Speaker 3: We're keen to hear from you. Nine to nine two

1421
01:04:49,213 --> 01:04:49,933
Speaker 3: is the text as well.

1422
01:04:50,013 --> 01:04:51,973
Speaker 2: And the text that that's asking about. Do not disturb.

1423
01:04:52,053 --> 01:04:53,773
Speaker 2: I mean you can just google google it, but yeah,

1424
01:04:53,773 --> 01:04:55,893
Speaker 2: you're not putting in the sleep when you're when you're

1425
01:04:55,933 --> 01:04:58,253
Speaker 2: googling that, it's do not disturb. I mean when you're

1426
01:04:58,293 --> 01:05:00,933
Speaker 2: going to the site, it's do not disturb sleep dot com. Okay,

1427
01:05:01,013 --> 01:05:02,093
Speaker 2: so that might be your problem there.

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01:05:02,213 --> 01:05:05,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, right back, very shortly, but of course

1429
01:05:05,293 --> 01:05:07,213
Speaker 3: taking your calls on one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1430
01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:08,853
Speaker 3: and if you want to send a teach than welcome

1431
01:05:09,053 --> 01:05:11,133
Speaker 3: nWo is that number, it's twenty one to three.

1432
01:05:12,173 --> 01:05:15,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

1433
01:05:15,573 --> 01:05:18,973
Speaker 1: on Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

1434
01:05:19,013 --> 01:05:21,813
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoons. You're nineteen to three. So

1435
01:05:21,853 --> 01:05:24,733
Speaker 3: we're talking about buying New Zealand mate, this Christmas? Is

1436
01:05:24,813 --> 01:05:26,373
Speaker 3: it the smart thing to do? Is it a bit

1437
01:05:26,413 --> 01:05:28,853
Speaker 3: of a win. Win for your friends and family and

1438
01:05:29,013 --> 01:05:31,413
Speaker 3: win for our economy and the good people creating things

1439
01:05:31,493 --> 01:05:31,773
Speaker 3: out there.

1440
01:05:32,093 --> 01:05:33,773
Speaker 2: Give a gift to a loved one and give a

1441
01:05:33,813 --> 01:05:38,013
Speaker 2: gift to the New Zealand economy. John, Welcome to the show.

1442
01:05:38,173 --> 01:05:38,813
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas.

1443
01:05:40,573 --> 01:05:42,693
Speaker 21: Good afternoon, Martin Tyler.

1444
01:05:44,373 --> 01:05:45,413
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, John.

1445
01:05:45,653 --> 01:05:49,973
Speaker 21: How you doing Gooday, Look, I'm a bit hard of hearing.

1446
01:05:50,253 --> 01:05:52,533
Speaker 21: Are you speaker phone? It makes a lot easier to

1447
01:05:52,533 --> 01:05:58,093
Speaker 21: communicate with you. You kept getting the name wrong for

1448
01:05:58,293 --> 01:06:03,213
Speaker 21: white Stone cheese. You kept seeing wind Stone cheese.

1449
01:06:03,733 --> 01:06:04,973
Speaker 2: Bloody tires, Tyler.

1450
01:06:05,053 --> 01:06:06,773
Speaker 3: This is my last day on the show, John, because

1451
01:06:06,773 --> 01:06:09,053
Speaker 3: of that. So look, I'm sorry. I paid my price.

1452
01:06:09,773 --> 01:06:12,333
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's cool. I've been I took I took a

1453
01:06:12,453 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 21: day trip down to kai Kura about ten years ago

1454
01:06:16,093 --> 01:06:18,933
Speaker 21: with a couple of buddies, a day trip on the ferry,

1455
01:06:19,333 --> 01:06:22,453
Speaker 21: and we took one of the guys down to shout

1456
01:06:22,573 --> 01:06:30,573
Speaker 21: him crayfish. The afternoon tea at the Crayfish Caravan at Kaikura.

1457
01:06:31,453 --> 01:06:34,213
Speaker 4: Be sorry, NaN's ben.

1458
01:06:36,173 --> 01:06:37,853
Speaker 21: I can't remember what it was called it was, but

1459
01:06:37,973 --> 01:06:40,093
Speaker 21: it was it was this. It was this around about

1460
01:06:40,093 --> 01:06:43,093
Speaker 21: his seventieth and it was ten years ago, because now

1461
01:06:43,173 --> 01:06:48,573
Speaker 21: the guy's eighty and we we called him a specialty

1462
01:06:48,693 --> 01:06:54,533
Speaker 21: cheese shopping Kaikoura and they had white stone cheese for sampling.

1463
01:06:55,413 --> 01:06:58,733
Speaker 21: And I've been I've been buying one point eight kilogram

1464
01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:03,573
Speaker 21: rounds of white stone windsor blue for the past ten

1465
01:07:03,693 --> 01:07:06,853
Speaker 21: years and getting them sent up to Wellington.

1466
01:07:08,453 --> 01:07:10,573
Speaker 2: How much? How much? With that way, how much would

1467
01:07:10,613 --> 01:07:14,773
Speaker 2: one of those be? Just roughly speaking, it's a one

1468
01:07:14,853 --> 01:07:17,133
Speaker 2: point eight kilogram, that's what you said that at the

1469
01:07:17,133 --> 01:07:19,013
Speaker 2: start them online?

1470
01:07:19,573 --> 01:07:21,413
Speaker 21: Yeah, I get them from the website. You can don't

1471
01:07:21,413 --> 01:07:23,253
Speaker 21: even get three point six kilogram.

1472
01:07:23,453 --> 01:07:25,173
Speaker 2: How long is it take me to get through one

1473
01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:27,293
Speaker 2: point kg of cheese?

1474
01:07:29,533 --> 01:07:32,133
Speaker 21: A couple of weeks, I.

1475
01:07:32,173 --> 01:07:32,453
Speaker 22: Tell you what.

1476
01:07:32,613 --> 01:07:35,573
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, nine diagnosed me with gout.

1477
01:07:35,613 --> 01:07:36,933
Speaker 2: It turned not to be turned out not to be

1478
01:07:37,013 --> 01:07:39,613
Speaker 2: gout with the older it was actually a broken toe.

1479
01:07:39,613 --> 01:07:41,853
Speaker 2: But anyway, it doesn't matter. So this is good news

1480
01:07:41,893 --> 01:07:44,693
Speaker 2: because it's a broken toe and knockout. That means I

1481
01:07:44,733 --> 01:07:47,853
Speaker 2: can lay into the one point eight kg's of cheese

1482
01:07:47,933 --> 01:07:50,533
Speaker 2: and crayfish, which which I'm very pleased.

1483
01:07:50,693 --> 01:07:56,573
Speaker 21: I share them out quite frequently with my friends and

1484
01:07:57,133 --> 01:08:01,613
Speaker 21: one of my one of my favorite breakfast is White

1485
01:08:01,613 --> 01:08:07,973
Speaker 21: Storm Blue cheese and crisp well peeled and corn Grammy

1486
01:08:08,013 --> 01:08:08,813
Speaker 21: Smith apples.

1487
01:08:09,013 --> 01:08:12,253
Speaker 3: Oh, speaking my language, cheese and apples for breakfast.

1488
01:08:12,573 --> 01:08:15,453
Speaker 21: Apple and Windstone, white.

1489
01:08:15,293 --> 01:08:18,173
Speaker 2: Stone, white Stone. You did it now, John white Stone.

1490
01:08:20,372 --> 01:08:21,333
Speaker 21: Winds of Blue.

1491
01:08:22,333 --> 01:08:23,693
Speaker 14: It's absolutely beautiful.

1492
01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:26,053
Speaker 2: Good on you, John, Thank you so much for your call.

1493
01:08:26,572 --> 01:08:26,692
Speaker 21: Hi.

1494
01:08:27,412 --> 01:08:29,933
Speaker 2: I'm Amanda. My Kiwi business is the Chiller. We're an

1495
01:08:30,013 --> 01:08:33,253
Speaker 2: online non alcoholic drink store supporting lots of locally produced

1496
01:08:33,293 --> 01:08:36,652
Speaker 2: non alcoholic wine, beer and spirit producers, perfect for celebrating

1497
01:08:36,772 --> 01:08:41,253
Speaker 2: over Christmas. There's been a real uptick. In fact, there

1498
01:08:41,333 --> 01:08:43,692
Speaker 2: was a big story the other day about a non

1499
01:08:43,732 --> 01:08:46,452
Speaker 2: alcoholic New Zealand manufacturer. I can't remember their call. I

1500
01:08:46,532 --> 01:08:50,892
Speaker 2: look at ye drinks A drinks that have just had

1501
01:08:50,933 --> 01:08:52,372
Speaker 2: some big sales in the UK, right.

1502
01:08:52,372 --> 01:08:54,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they went very well in the UK,

1503
01:08:54,572 --> 01:08:56,893
Speaker 3: which even they were surprised by. Oh one hundred and

1504
01:08:56,933 --> 01:08:58,972
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If you're

1505
01:08:58,973 --> 01:09:02,772
Speaker 3: buying New Zealand made What are you buying Dean, Welcome

1506
01:09:02,812 --> 01:09:06,133
Speaker 3: to the show. Yes, how are you very good?

1507
01:09:08,572 --> 01:09:08,772
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1508
01:09:10,093 --> 01:09:13,493
Speaker 23: I'm from a company here in christ It's called Greenstone

1509
01:09:13,572 --> 01:09:19,892
Speaker 23: Crop and we locally carve greenstone pendants and and other

1510
01:09:20,013 --> 01:09:25,772
Speaker 23: lovely gifts for people. Makes a great gift for Christmas.

1511
01:09:26,372 --> 01:09:28,692
Speaker 2: And where would people be able to find you if

1512
01:09:28,692 --> 01:09:31,012
Speaker 2: they want to order some of your punamu?

1513
01:09:32,692 --> 01:09:35,173
Speaker 23: So you're be able to go on to our website

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01:09:35,213 --> 01:09:40,053
Speaker 23: which is www dot Greenstone Shop, dot co, dot and z.

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01:09:40,692 --> 01:09:41,532
Speaker 24: How good and well?

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01:09:42,173 --> 01:09:42,412
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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01:09:42,853 --> 01:09:44,412
Speaker 3: And what do people need to know when they when

1518
01:09:44,452 --> 01:09:47,213
Speaker 3: they you know they might not know too much about pornamu?

1519
01:09:47,333 --> 01:09:48,572
Speaker 3: What do they need to know when they come to

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01:09:48,652 --> 01:09:49,532
Speaker 3: you and select the piece?

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01:09:50,973 --> 01:09:55,132
Speaker 23: Some of these each of our designs have like different meanings,

1522
01:09:56,013 --> 01:09:58,933
Speaker 23: so you know, you can you can look at that

1523
01:09:59,893 --> 01:10:02,133
Speaker 23: there may be certain things going on in their life

1524
01:10:02,253 --> 01:10:04,812
Speaker 23: and things like that where where they feel that might

1525
01:10:04,933 --> 01:10:06,333
Speaker 23: be sort of help them.

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01:10:07,412 --> 01:10:08,253
Speaker 14: So yeah, you can.

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01:10:08,333 --> 01:10:11,692
Speaker 23: And on your website there's there's meanings for each of

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01:10:11,732 --> 01:10:13,173
Speaker 23: the different designs.

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01:10:12,772 --> 01:10:13,333
Speaker 14: That we make.

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01:10:13,812 --> 01:10:14,732
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at it now.

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01:10:15,372 --> 01:10:18,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful pieces. So are you a carver yourself? Deane?

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01:10:18,893 --> 01:10:21,532
Speaker 23: Yes, yes, I'm one of the carvers here on site,

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01:10:22,053 --> 01:10:26,133
Speaker 23: so we carve here at our studio here in christ Hitch.

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01:10:26,173 --> 01:10:30,412
Speaker 2: Yes, fantastic, good on you Greenstone shop dot co dot Z.

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01:10:30,612 --> 01:10:31,933
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Dan, what.

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01:10:32,013 --> 01:10:34,333
Speaker 3: A great gift. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1537
01:10:34,492 --> 01:10:37,093
Speaker 3: is that number to call. We are talking about buying

1538
01:10:37,133 --> 01:10:39,372
Speaker 3: New Zealand made gifts. So if you have bought New

1539
01:10:39,452 --> 01:10:41,213
Speaker 3: Zealand made love to hear from you. And if you

1540
01:10:41,412 --> 01:10:44,253
Speaker 3: make New Zealand made really keen to give you a

1541
01:10:44,293 --> 01:10:45,652
Speaker 3: place a shout out because you're good people.

1542
01:10:45,812 --> 01:10:47,532
Speaker 2: And thank you so much for everyone that's texting in

1543
01:10:47,692 --> 01:10:50,293
Speaker 2: and pointing out how I humiliated myself asking the question

1544
01:10:50,412 --> 01:10:53,572
Speaker 2: how heavy is a one point eight block of geese?

1545
01:10:53,612 --> 01:10:55,772
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say anything, mate, but yeah, it's

1546
01:10:55,772 --> 01:10:58,333
Speaker 3: a fair question. But smashing that in doing a half weeks.

1547
01:10:58,173 --> 01:10:59,812
Speaker 2: It reminds me of a Maine and mind that worked

1548
01:10:59,812 --> 01:11:01,772
Speaker 2: in a fish and chip shop and this dront guy

1549
01:11:01,853 --> 01:11:04,532
Speaker 2: came in and said how much is the dollar's chips?

1550
01:11:05,213 --> 01:11:07,053
Speaker 2: And he said a dollar? This was a long time ago,

1551
01:11:07,333 --> 01:11:09,492
Speaker 2: and then the guy asked, mashed up the rubbish bun.

1552
01:11:09,612 --> 01:11:12,732
Speaker 2: I don't have a dollar, so I've been laughing at

1553
01:11:12,772 --> 01:11:15,692
Speaker 2: that guy for saying that for about twenty years and

1554
01:11:15,893 --> 01:11:16,812
Speaker 2: now I've done it myself.

1555
01:11:16,893 --> 01:11:19,093
Speaker 3: Oh mate, that's too good. It is thirteen to three

1556
01:11:19,133 --> 01:11:21,733
Speaker 3: bag very shortly, the issues.

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01:11:21,452 --> 01:11:23,892
Speaker 1: That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

1558
01:11:24,173 --> 01:11:28,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

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01:11:28,213 --> 01:11:31,453
Speaker 3: News TALKSB. We're talking about buying New Zealand made this Christmas?

1560
01:11:31,612 --> 01:11:34,133
Speaker 3: Is it important to you and if you make those

1561
01:11:34,213 --> 01:11:37,133
Speaker 3: particular gifts or products or you're a creative, love to

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01:11:37,173 --> 01:11:38,812
Speaker 3: hear from you. One hundred and eighteen eighty.

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01:11:38,772 --> 01:11:41,532
Speaker 2: And we were talking to someone from the Chiller just

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01:11:41,612 --> 01:11:45,772
Speaker 2: before and look he's a listener backing up. I've purchased

1565
01:11:45,812 --> 01:11:48,892
Speaker 2: from the Chiller. Prices and variety and service are.

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01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:51,372
Speaker 3: Outstanding, five stars. Nice one, Mike.

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01:11:51,412 --> 01:11:53,412
Speaker 14: How are you good, mate?

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01:11:53,772 --> 01:11:55,932
Speaker 3: How's it going very good so we can to hear

1569
01:11:55,973 --> 01:11:56,732
Speaker 3: about your product?

1570
01:11:57,612 --> 01:11:58,972
Speaker 24: Oh well, it's actually minus.

1571
01:11:59,053 --> 01:11:59,532
Speaker 2: My wife.

1572
01:11:59,612 --> 01:12:02,892
Speaker 24: She's an artist who's sort of been trying to plug

1573
01:12:02,973 --> 01:12:05,612
Speaker 24: a weight up for a year or so now just

1574
01:12:05,652 --> 01:12:08,692
Speaker 24: sort of getting off the ground. But yeah, she's got

1575
01:12:08,812 --> 01:12:13,492
Speaker 24: a a like a craft thing going on. At the

1576
01:12:13,612 --> 01:12:16,652
Speaker 24: Funny Worker function scene of the Sunday, which is near

1577
01:12:16,692 --> 01:12:20,652
Speaker 24: Frank Kitts park in one and tend to go and

1578
01:12:20,772 --> 01:12:24,492
Speaker 24: she does. Oh yeah, she's pretty good. Actually, I mean,

1579
01:12:24,572 --> 01:12:26,612
Speaker 24: I know it's subjective, but you know, she's got a

1580
01:12:26,652 --> 01:12:31,812
Speaker 24: website it's called Shoreline Studio, which you can search online

1581
01:12:31,853 --> 01:12:35,892
Speaker 24: and have a look. And she's quite creative. Like she's

1582
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:37,013
Speaker 24: a vegan, which makes them my.

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01:12:37,093 --> 01:12:38,212
Speaker 14: Life quite difficult.

1584
01:12:40,412 --> 01:12:44,532
Speaker 24: But she see all of her soy milk cuttons. They're

1585
01:12:44,572 --> 01:12:48,133
Speaker 24: not actually recyclable, so she keeps those smashes them open

1586
01:12:48,173 --> 01:12:50,852
Speaker 24: and prints stuff on those as well. So cool.

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01:12:52,372 --> 01:12:54,893
Speaker 3: Environment, it's some beautiful stuff. I'm just looking at the

1588
01:12:54,933 --> 01:12:57,532
Speaker 3: toy skateboard art. She is a talented, talented woman.

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01:12:58,333 --> 01:13:00,173
Speaker 24: Yeah, and you know, if you go in there and

1590
01:13:00,253 --> 01:13:01,933
Speaker 24: you find something you like, she can put them on

1591
01:13:01,973 --> 01:13:04,412
Speaker 24: a T shirt or a cap, even though I'm wearing

1592
01:13:04,452 --> 01:13:06,452
Speaker 24: at one of the cats right now it's covered in crap.

1593
01:13:06,532 --> 01:13:09,732
Speaker 24: But yeah, yeah, so even if you went on the

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01:13:09,772 --> 01:13:13,013
Speaker 24: wedsline to sad like this design. Actually, one person she

1595
01:13:13,173 --> 01:13:15,892
Speaker 24: met one of her craft stools like her that too

1596
01:13:15,933 --> 01:13:18,053
Speaker 24: we are that he asked if he could get it

1597
01:13:18,133 --> 01:13:19,172
Speaker 24: on as a tattoo.

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01:13:19,933 --> 01:13:23,093
Speaker 3: So yeah, how good.

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01:13:23,612 --> 01:13:27,852
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's some beautiful stuff here. So Shoreline studio

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01:13:28,213 --> 01:13:28,932
Speaker 2: dot in zed.

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01:13:29,532 --> 01:13:30,532
Speaker 24: I believe that's the one.

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01:13:30,492 --> 01:13:34,333
Speaker 2: Shoreline studio dot in zid. Yeah, beautiful stuff. See I

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01:13:34,412 --> 01:13:37,612
Speaker 2: can see someone getting this as a gift for someone's back.

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01:13:37,812 --> 01:13:40,093
Speaker 2: It's got a very summary holiday vibe. A lot of

1605
01:13:40,133 --> 01:13:40,452
Speaker 2: this stuff.

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01:13:40,572 --> 01:13:43,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely does. And whereabouts was her exhibition? Did you

1607
01:13:43,333 --> 01:13:44,333
Speaker 3: say that this weekend?

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01:13:45,093 --> 01:13:49,372
Speaker 24: It's on Sunday. It's the Funny Walker function Ceno, which

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01:13:49,452 --> 01:13:51,892
Speaker 24: is mayor Franketts Park and Wellington.

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01:13:52,293 --> 01:13:56,133
Speaker 2: Nice good and or best luck for her and the

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01:13:56,253 --> 01:13:58,173
Speaker 2: best luck for you being married to a vegan. I

1612
01:13:58,213 --> 01:13:58,692
Speaker 2: appreciate that.

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01:13:59,692 --> 01:14:02,812
Speaker 3: Ands for Mike unfortunately, thank you very much. Mate. Oh

1614
01:14:02,853 --> 01:14:07,333
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty T and eighty is the number to call, Diane.

1615
01:14:07,372 --> 01:14:09,253
Speaker 3: How are you hi there.

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01:14:09,452 --> 01:14:12,053
Speaker 20: I'm giving a shout out to Tumbleweed Teas. I've been

1617
01:14:12,133 --> 01:14:15,452
Speaker 20: buying them since my son was like six months and

1618
01:14:15,572 --> 01:14:16,933
Speaker 20: he's now fourteen.

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01:14:16,732 --> 01:14:21,093
Speaker 2: And has tea bags or T shirts T shirts.

1620
01:14:22,652 --> 01:14:24,813
Speaker 3: Clarify tumbleweeds.

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01:14:24,973 --> 01:14:27,772
Speaker 20: Yeah, t shirts, but they go as Tumbleweed Teas and

1622
01:14:27,893 --> 01:14:31,093
Speaker 20: they have all New Zealand nature conservation on them and

1623
01:14:31,213 --> 01:14:33,013
Speaker 20: a lot of their T shirts they give back to

1624
01:14:33,133 --> 01:14:38,532
Speaker 20: various different conservation efforts and national parks and they're all

1625
01:14:38,652 --> 01:14:41,652
Speaker 20: handprinted by the family and they come in various shapes

1626
01:14:41,692 --> 01:14:43,973
Speaker 20: and sizes. Even just choose you know, you want to

1627
01:14:43,973 --> 01:14:48,853
Speaker 20: bring T shirt with a native flag or a fantail

1628
01:14:49,213 --> 01:14:50,692
Speaker 20: or you know, marine life on it.

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01:14:51,853 --> 01:14:54,732
Speaker 2: You can get a bunch of sharks. Oh yes, for

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01:14:54,973 --> 01:14:55,772
Speaker 2: sharks on a tee.

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01:14:56,612 --> 01:14:56,852
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:14:57,173 --> 01:14:59,412
Speaker 20: So they're they're really cool and every year they bring

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01:14:59,492 --> 01:15:02,612
Speaker 20: out new designs and they're really hardy. I've got some

1634
01:15:02,812 --> 01:15:05,213
Speaker 20: T shirts that he obviously can't sit anymore, but I

1635
01:15:05,253 --> 01:15:07,293
Speaker 20: actually turned them into a bedspread and he still sleeps

1636
01:15:07,372 --> 01:15:09,932
Speaker 20: underneath them because I've free thows them into a bread spread.

1637
01:15:09,973 --> 01:15:11,972
Speaker 20: So you know, they've been going for teen years now.

1638
01:15:12,093 --> 01:15:14,532
Speaker 20: So go qual of these stuff and it's a really

1639
01:15:14,572 --> 01:15:15,612
Speaker 20: good family to support.

1640
01:15:15,893 --> 01:15:16,372
Speaker 3: Beautiful.

1641
01:15:16,492 --> 01:15:18,213
Speaker 2: You can get a snail on a kid's T shirt

1642
01:15:18,293 --> 01:15:20,492
Speaker 2: right there. Look at that, beautiful. I thank you so

1643
01:15:20,572 --> 01:15:21,372
Speaker 2: much for you called Diane.

1644
01:15:21,412 --> 01:15:24,892
Speaker 3: What a great business. Fantastic. Can't go past the fantail either.

1645
01:15:25,812 --> 01:15:28,412
Speaker 3: Got a couple of ticks before we hit the news.

1646
01:15:29,013 --> 01:15:32,213
Speaker 2: Hi guys, says Clint. Escape Grace Jin move their operation

1647
01:15:32,372 --> 01:15:35,173
Speaker 2: from Auckland to Trace just out of Cromwell. Hands down

1648
01:15:35,253 --> 01:15:39,333
Speaker 2: New Zealand's best ever locally produced gin I used to.

1649
01:15:39,652 --> 01:15:43,012
Speaker 2: I used to holiday in Cludon Valley, which is near Tarras.

1650
01:15:44,293 --> 01:15:46,172
Speaker 2: Fantastic area around there. Oh my goodness.

1651
01:15:46,213 --> 01:15:47,812
Speaker 3: They do some good booze down that way, don't they.

1652
01:15:48,053 --> 01:15:48,692
Speaker 3: Ray Gins.

1653
01:15:48,772 --> 01:15:52,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're looking at putting an international airport up Terrace,

1654
01:15:52,732 --> 01:15:53,652
Speaker 2: but we'll see how that goes.

1655
01:15:53,772 --> 01:15:55,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, spend a lot of time in the Cludon Valley.

1656
01:15:55,893 --> 01:16:00,372
Speaker 3: What a beautiful part of the country. Antonia, how are you?

1657
01:16:01,612 --> 01:16:04,973
Speaker 6: Hey, thank you, hey, thanks for taking my call. I

1658
01:16:05,612 --> 01:16:08,812
Speaker 6: jumped on here because you're talking all about ze and

1659
01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:11,652
Speaker 6: we are completely all about New Zealand.

1660
01:16:12,372 --> 01:16:14,613
Speaker 18: We we actually grow.

1661
01:16:16,053 --> 01:16:16,372
Speaker 3: Power.

1662
01:16:16,452 --> 01:16:19,372
Speaker 6: We actually are a hatchery and we grow baby power

1663
01:16:20,173 --> 01:16:24,093
Speaker 6: haliotis IRUs and we grow them. We take it takes

1664
01:16:24,173 --> 01:16:26,213
Speaker 6: four years to grow them up to size, and we

1665
01:16:26,333 --> 01:16:30,732
Speaker 6: actually put a little insert in there. We nuculate them

1666
01:16:30,853 --> 01:16:34,052
Speaker 6: and actually grow a pearl that takes over four years

1667
01:16:34,093 --> 01:16:37,293
Speaker 6: to grow. And we do this all on other Power Island.

1668
01:16:37,893 --> 01:16:41,532
Speaker 6: And yeah, if we're a family business and we grow

1669
01:16:41,973 --> 01:16:46,572
Speaker 6: pearls for in New Zealand jewelry in New Zealand sorry

1670
01:16:46,652 --> 01:16:50,492
Speaker 6: New Zealand Gold or New Zealand spelling silver. And we're

1671
01:16:50,692 --> 01:16:55,053
Speaker 6: very passionate about this because we actually are you know,

1672
01:16:56,213 --> 01:17:01,892
Speaker 6: it's it's our it's our religion, our gorgeous blue pearls,

1673
01:17:01,933 --> 01:17:05,372
Speaker 6: just because some of the rarest you know, the power

1674
01:17:05,492 --> 01:17:08,293
Speaker 6: is one of the most beautiful shells in the world

1675
01:17:08,652 --> 01:17:14,052
Speaker 6: and we have we we have the ability of growing

1676
01:17:14,133 --> 01:17:16,412
Speaker 6: these gorgeous hunique pearls that have.

1677
01:17:16,532 --> 01:17:17,932
Speaker 17: Not grown nowhere else.

1678
01:17:19,053 --> 01:17:20,893
Speaker 2: And do you live on the island on?

1679
01:17:21,652 --> 01:17:24,333
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, we live on the island we live on

1680
01:17:24,893 --> 01:17:25,333
Speaker 6: which is on.

1681
01:17:27,213 --> 01:17:28,333
Speaker 2: That? Is that mulble sounds?

1682
01:17:28,412 --> 01:17:28,572
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1683
01:17:29,412 --> 01:17:29,612
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1684
01:17:30,492 --> 01:17:32,692
Speaker 2: Wow? So how many people live on the island?

1685
01:17:32,772 --> 01:17:32,893
Speaker 5: Is it?

1686
01:17:32,933 --> 01:17:33,412
Speaker 2: What twenty?

1687
01:17:33,933 --> 01:17:37,652
Speaker 6: You know, it's a good question. Probably around thirty forty

1688
01:17:37,772 --> 01:17:41,293
Speaker 6: people year round and then in the summer there's probably

1689
01:17:41,293 --> 01:17:42,572
Speaker 6: over one hundred old people.

1690
01:17:45,093 --> 01:17:48,372
Speaker 3: What an absolute beautiful spot to live, stunning part of

1691
01:17:48,412 --> 01:17:48,732
Speaker 3: the country.

1692
01:17:48,772 --> 01:17:51,932
Speaker 2: And so how would people get hold of you if

1693
01:17:51,933 --> 01:17:53,652
Speaker 2: they wanted to give someone one of your one of

1694
01:17:53,692 --> 01:17:54,253
Speaker 2: your pearls?

1695
01:17:55,532 --> 01:17:57,492
Speaker 6: So the best way is online.

1696
01:17:57,612 --> 01:18:01,813
Speaker 18: We our website has out of Power Blue Pearls.

1697
01:18:01,532 --> 01:18:04,612
Speaker 6: Dot co, dot m Z or people can actually come

1698
01:18:04,692 --> 01:18:07,372
Speaker 6: out here and spend a week in or stay a

1699
01:18:07,452 --> 01:18:11,053
Speaker 6: couple of nights. We've got a holiday accommodation and you

1700
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:11,532
Speaker 6: can come.

1701
01:18:11,452 --> 01:18:12,012
Speaker 14: And do a tour.

1702
01:18:12,612 --> 01:18:14,732
Speaker 2: Brilliant Sorry, We've got to go. The news headlines are

1703
01:18:14,772 --> 01:18:16,412
Speaker 2: coming and strong. But should we keep this going? Got

1704
01:18:16,412 --> 01:18:18,852
Speaker 2: so many people waiting to talk about great New Zealand.

1705
01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:21,133
Speaker 3: Product, loving this chat, so yes, please keep it going.

1706
01:18:21,133 --> 01:18:22,852
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you're

1707
01:18:22,853 --> 01:18:24,893
Speaker 3: buying New Zealand made or you're making it, kind to

1708
01:18:24,933 --> 01:18:25,372
Speaker 3: hear from you.

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01:18:27,053 --> 01:18:32,732
Speaker 1: Right your new home are instateful and entertaining talk. It's

1710
01:18:32,893 --> 01:18:36,772
Speaker 1: Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1711
01:18:36,732 --> 01:18:39,532
Speaker 3: Zebby how did do you welcome back into the show?

1712
01:18:39,572 --> 01:18:40,213
Speaker 3: Six past three?

1713
01:18:40,532 --> 01:18:43,173
Speaker 2: I've gutted Tyler, but I got it because we were going.

1714
01:18:43,372 --> 01:18:46,133
Speaker 2: The news comes at news Talk ZIB whether you want

1715
01:18:46,133 --> 01:18:47,772
Speaker 2: it to or not. You know, it just comes at

1716
01:18:47,812 --> 01:18:49,253
Speaker 2: a time we always want it to come. But yes,

1717
01:18:49,412 --> 01:18:50,452
Speaker 2: it's on a timer.

1718
01:18:50,812 --> 01:18:53,093
Speaker 3: It's hard timed out. We'll give there's no flexibility.

1719
01:18:53,213 --> 01:18:56,092
Speaker 2: And you absolutely nailed it into the break by saying,

1720
01:18:56,452 --> 01:18:58,932
Speaker 2: you know you've got the exact words out, brilliantly done.

1721
01:18:59,293 --> 01:19:01,333
Speaker 2: And then I was so excited for you. I left

1722
01:19:01,372 --> 01:19:02,572
Speaker 2: my mic on and said, well done.

1723
01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:04,532
Speaker 3: Mate, ruined it didn't I, well, it's a beautiful thing.

1724
01:19:04,612 --> 01:19:06,452
Speaker 3: It's nice that that went out to the air waves.

1725
01:19:06,452 --> 01:19:08,852
Speaker 3: So that you see it as it could have been

1726
01:19:08,853 --> 01:19:11,133
Speaker 3: a lot worse. So thank you very much mate. But

1727
01:19:11,253 --> 01:19:13,612
Speaker 3: yeah I felt good about that one. But yeah, the

1728
01:19:13,652 --> 01:19:15,532
Speaker 3: old mic Putton, I think it's just a bit rusty.

1729
01:19:15,652 --> 01:19:18,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right then should we keep this topic going. Yes,

1730
01:19:18,572 --> 01:19:22,172
Speaker 2: we were talking about the concept of buying New Zealand

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01:19:22,412 --> 01:19:25,253
Speaker 2: made products as gifts for Christmas, because in that way

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Speaker 2: you not only give a gift your loved one, but

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01:19:28,692 --> 01:19:31,572
Speaker 2: you also give a gift to a New Zealand company

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01:19:31,732 --> 01:19:35,532
Speaker 2: and in the New Zealand economy, so it's double feel.

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01:19:35,333 --> 01:19:37,293
Speaker 3: Good, right yep, one one win. So we want to

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01:19:37,333 --> 01:19:38,893
Speaker 3: hear from you. If you're buying New Zealand made, what

1737
01:19:38,973 --> 01:19:41,652
Speaker 3: are you buying? And if you're producing New Zealand made,

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01:19:41,732 --> 01:19:43,013
Speaker 3: this is your chance to give a bit of a

1739
01:19:43,093 --> 01:19:45,973
Speaker 3: shout out and give some options for people who are

1740
01:19:46,093 --> 01:19:48,372
Speaker 3: probably just starting to get into the Christmas shopping.

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01:19:48,612 --> 01:19:52,053
Speaker 2: Mustache cookies and cookie pies stuff worth dying for and

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01:19:52,333 --> 01:19:53,532
Speaker 2: maybe killing who you go.

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01:19:53,812 --> 01:19:56,013
Speaker 3: That is the business. If you had mustache cookies, it's

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01:19:56,053 --> 01:19:59,612
Speaker 3: down in christ Oh my god, they are freaking amazing.

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01:19:59,692 --> 01:20:02,173
Speaker 3: It's in Riverside, I think. Now go check them out

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01:20:02,173 --> 01:20:02,572
Speaker 3: if you're there.

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01:20:02,772 --> 01:20:08,772
Speaker 2: We make kids travel games. KeyWe car games, football, bingo cricket,

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01:20:09,452 --> 01:20:12,012
Speaker 2: basketball games played in the car on your summer holiday

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01:20:12,133 --> 01:20:16,452
Speaker 2: road trips. Keywecargames dot co dot sorry, keywecargames dot in zeid.

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01:20:17,133 --> 01:20:20,412
Speaker 2: My goodness. I still love playing car cricket yep. When

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01:20:20,452 --> 01:20:22,412
Speaker 2: I was a kid and I had this car cricket

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01:20:22,812 --> 01:20:25,932
Speaker 2: sheet that one of the service stations gave away for years.

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01:20:26,093 --> 01:20:26,253
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:20:26,293 --> 01:20:28,053
Speaker 2: You know, if you haven't played car cricket, you get

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01:20:28,772 --> 01:20:31,412
Speaker 2: different runs for different cars. You know, you get out

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01:20:31,652 --> 01:20:33,772
Speaker 2: on different things, like maybe a car with the trailer

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01:20:33,853 --> 01:20:35,613
Speaker 2: gets you out. I can't remember the rules, actually.

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01:20:35,492 --> 01:20:37,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, various rules. But what a game and that keeps

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01:20:37,732 --> 01:20:40,133
Speaker 3: you entertained for so long. Great for the appearents as well.

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01:20:40,253 --> 01:20:43,372
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah so Keywecardgames dot.

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01:20:43,412 --> 01:20:45,293
Speaker 3: In zeed Janey.

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01:20:45,732 --> 01:20:46,732
Speaker 16: How are you hello?

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01:20:47,333 --> 01:20:47,852
Speaker 19: I'm good?

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01:20:47,973 --> 01:20:51,852
Speaker 3: How are you good? So you create or you've got

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01:20:51,973 --> 01:20:53,452
Speaker 3: some gift ideas for people?

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01:20:54,492 --> 01:20:58,093
Speaker 17: I am the creator and I can offer the gift

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01:20:58,253 --> 01:21:02,893
Speaker 17: of a forever memory because I do photography, and vouchers

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01:21:03,053 --> 01:21:06,812
Speaker 17: are a very good gift to gift to people who

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01:21:06,893 --> 01:21:09,293
Speaker 17: might not be able to afford them them else or

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01:21:09,452 --> 01:21:11,092
Speaker 17: are looking at photo shoots themselves.

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01:21:11,173 --> 01:21:13,372
Speaker 3: So that was a great idea, a good voucher for

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01:21:14,013 --> 01:21:16,412
Speaker 3: a nice photography session. So what's the name of your company?

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01:21:17,812 --> 01:21:22,372
Speaker 18: I am J Wild Photography and where can we find you?

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01:21:23,692 --> 01:21:27,932
Speaker 17: So I'm on Facebook online Facebook at the moment. I've

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01:21:28,133 --> 01:21:32,253
Speaker 17: just recently done a whole lot of baby minise for

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01:21:32,452 --> 01:21:34,133
Speaker 17: Christmas which is super cute.

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01:21:35,812 --> 01:21:38,293
Speaker 3: Oh that is adorable. And so whereabouts that you based?

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01:21:39,572 --> 01:21:40,973
Speaker 17: I'm Auckland based.

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01:21:40,973 --> 01:21:43,053
Speaker 3: Right okay, Oh yes, I'm just oh, I'm just having

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01:21:43,093 --> 01:21:48,652
Speaker 3: a look now that's gorgeous, very very yes, yeah, that's.

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01:21:48,812 --> 01:21:50,532
Speaker 17: Nine days old, that little girl.

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01:21:50,853 --> 01:21:54,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's beautiful. You're very talented, Jane. That's that's

1783
01:21:54,053 --> 01:21:56,612
Speaker 3: a great idea, right well, mention that just mentioned that

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01:21:56,973 --> 01:21:59,213
Speaker 3: name on Facebook again for our audience.

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01:22:00,293 --> 01:22:04,213
Speaker 17: Jay Wild Photography, So just a letter J Wild w

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Speaker 17: I L d am Photography.

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Speaker 3: How good? Thank you very much for giving us buzz.

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01:22:09,253 --> 01:22:11,213
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1789
01:22:11,333 --> 01:22:15,213
Speaker 2: Oh here we go. This is Chris from Kiwikardgames dot

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01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:17,933
Speaker 2: m Z. I was just talking about you before. So

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01:22:19,173 --> 01:22:21,812
Speaker 2: what what with the cricket, what are the what are

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01:22:21,812 --> 01:22:23,812
Speaker 2: the current rules for car cricket?

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01:22:25,452 --> 01:22:29,173
Speaker 25: The rules we have is that you've got a white car,

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01:22:29,213 --> 01:22:31,893
Speaker 25: respone run, caper vans and six runs and if you

1795
01:22:31,973 --> 01:22:33,772
Speaker 25: see a truck, you've bowled out someone else.

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01:22:34,253 --> 01:22:35,173
Speaker 24: I love it.

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01:22:35,532 --> 01:22:38,333
Speaker 2: And so you've got to describe the product that you're

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01:22:38,372 --> 01:22:40,452
Speaker 2: selling to to play these games, because you've got another ones.

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01:22:40,452 --> 01:22:44,172
Speaker 2: You've got basketball, you've also got football.

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Speaker 25: Yep, footballers played between two players and directors. And the

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01:22:49,612 --> 01:22:52,253
Speaker 25: car you have pads and you're looking for white cars

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01:22:52,612 --> 01:22:55,612
Speaker 25: which are passers for your team to just go towards

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01:22:55,692 --> 01:22:57,852
Speaker 25: the goal. And you're looking for a green car to

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01:22:57,893 --> 01:22:58,452
Speaker 25: score a goal.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. And see the good thing about this is it's

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01:23:02,253 --> 01:23:05,732
Speaker 2: normally the punishing way people normally travel now is mum

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01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:08,812
Speaker 2: and dad in the front, I know, listening to podcast

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01:23:08,933 --> 01:23:10,772
Speaker 2: or something and all the kids along the back on

1809
01:23:10,893 --> 01:23:13,852
Speaker 2: their devices. Yeah, no one talking to each other. Yeah,

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01:23:13,933 --> 01:23:17,892
Speaker 2: So being able to play a game with everyone, that's

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01:23:17,933 --> 01:23:20,133
Speaker 2: a bit of a boon. Pretty wholesome stuff there, Chris.

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01:23:21,612 --> 01:23:23,772
Speaker 25: It is no devices included.

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01:23:24,933 --> 01:23:26,093
Speaker 3: What's your top seller.

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01:23:28,013 --> 01:23:30,412
Speaker 25: Being go at the moment? But football, we're very just

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01:23:30,572 --> 01:23:33,333
Speaker 25: developed football and it's new. No one else makes it

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01:23:33,412 --> 01:23:35,492
Speaker 25: in the world, and it's totally fun. The kids have

1817
01:23:35,572 --> 01:23:36,452
Speaker 25: a great time playing it.

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01:23:36,732 --> 01:23:39,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great presence for someone kiwikar Games dot

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01:23:40,412 --> 01:23:43,812
Speaker 2: Z if I got that right, that's correct their website.

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01:23:43,853 --> 01:23:45,852
Speaker 25: But we do sell for about one hundred and fifty

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01:23:46,093 --> 01:23:47,372
Speaker 25: retailers throughout the country.

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01:23:47,572 --> 01:23:50,612
Speaker 3: Great work, fantastic And what sort of retailers we're talking

1823
01:23:50,692 --> 01:23:52,053
Speaker 3: BP stations that sort of thing.

1824
01:23:53,532 --> 01:23:56,333
Speaker 25: No, sadly not. No, we're in places like wet calls,

1825
01:23:57,173 --> 01:23:59,972
Speaker 25: some paper pluses. We're in a lot of little gift

1826
01:24:00,053 --> 01:24:02,652
Speaker 25: shops around holiday places around the country.

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01:24:03,572 --> 01:24:04,613
Speaker 14: Yeah, bookstores.

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01:24:05,253 --> 01:24:08,293
Speaker 3: Fantastic, well done. Yeah, it looks fantastic and easy. Say

1829
01:24:09,133 --> 01:24:11,852
Speaker 3: that's a healthy, wholesome way to keep the kids entertained

1830
01:24:11,893 --> 01:24:13,293
Speaker 3: when you're traveling up and down the country.

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01:24:13,452 --> 01:24:15,133
Speaker 2: I love the picture on your website of just this

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01:24:15,293 --> 01:24:17,293
Speaker 2: happy family in a car and they we'll got big

1833
01:24:17,333 --> 01:24:20,732
Speaker 2: smiles on your faces. It's a great shot you've got there.

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01:24:20,772 --> 01:24:22,893
Speaker 2: How good. But they should be in service stations. I

1835
01:24:23,093 --> 01:24:25,412
Speaker 2: mean that'ud be a great thing. You stop for gas,

1836
01:24:25,452 --> 01:24:28,293
Speaker 2: pick up one of these games anyway, Wake up, wake

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01:24:28,372 --> 01:24:31,492
Speaker 2: up servos, give some key we card games in this

1838
01:24:31,732 --> 01:24:33,933
Speaker 2: in store. Hey, thanks to you call Chris, appreciate it,

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01:24:35,372 --> 01:24:37,053
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It sounds like you're on the

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01:24:37,133 --> 01:24:39,692
Speaker 2: road right now. Are you playing any game you in

1841
01:24:39,732 --> 01:24:41,013
Speaker 2: your head as you're driving.

1842
01:24:42,133 --> 01:24:43,412
Speaker 25: Just quietly driving home?

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01:24:43,812 --> 01:24:44,092
Speaker 2: Okay?

1844
01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:46,612
Speaker 3: Good, yeah, good man. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

1845
01:24:46,692 --> 01:24:50,133
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Nineteen ninety two is

1846
01:24:50,213 --> 01:24:51,973
Speaker 3: the text number. We'll get of two a few of

1847
01:24:52,013 --> 01:24:55,572
Speaker 3: those very shortly. It is thirteen past three news talks'd

1848
01:24:55,652 --> 01:24:58,452
Speaker 3: be it's a quarter past three. So if you're buying

1849
01:24:58,612 --> 01:25:00,933
Speaker 3: New Zealand made gifts for Christmas, love to hear from you,

1850
01:25:01,173 --> 01:25:03,452
Speaker 3: or if you make them, produce them, create them. O. Wait,

1851
01:25:03,452 --> 01:25:06,612
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1852
01:25:06,692 --> 01:25:09,053
Speaker 3: It's a win win for every What can you hear

1853
01:25:09,093 --> 01:25:11,172
Speaker 3: from you? Henry? How are you this afternoon?

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01:25:12,372 --> 01:25:12,572
Speaker 21: Yeah?

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01:25:12,652 --> 01:25:14,253
Speaker 13: Good, thank you, good, thank you very much.

1856
01:25:14,532 --> 01:25:15,293
Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

1857
01:25:16,772 --> 01:25:19,532
Speaker 26: So, me and my partners just not long ago created

1858
01:25:19,652 --> 01:25:22,053
Speaker 26: a printing business, a three D printing business, and we

1859
01:25:22,173 --> 01:25:27,293
Speaker 26: specialize and personalized three D lamps reading lamps.

1860
01:25:27,333 --> 01:25:31,532
Speaker 2: Did you say three? Uh?

1861
01:25:31,853 --> 01:25:32,892
Speaker 3: And what's your website?

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01:25:34,612 --> 01:25:36,812
Speaker 13: Nesian Elements dot co dot m.

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01:25:36,853 --> 01:25:40,133
Speaker 3: Z, Nesian Elements dot co dot NZ. Let's just check

1864
01:25:40,173 --> 01:25:42,412
Speaker 3: this out. And so how did you get into this?

1865
01:25:42,572 --> 01:25:42,612
Speaker 22: What?

1866
01:25:42,772 --> 01:25:42,812
Speaker 6: What?

1867
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:44,253
Speaker 3: What brought you into the lamp game?

1868
01:25:45,812 --> 01:25:45,932
Speaker 6: Uh?

1869
01:25:47,093 --> 01:25:48,652
Speaker 13: I was just sitting there at home after work one

1870
01:25:48,732 --> 01:25:49,093
Speaker 13: day and I.

1871
01:25:49,133 --> 01:25:50,612
Speaker 10: Thought, I don't like my job.

1872
01:25:54,732 --> 01:25:56,213
Speaker 2: Oh wow, these are really cool.

1873
01:25:57,572 --> 01:25:58,812
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we do it.

1874
01:25:58,933 --> 01:26:03,493
Speaker 13: We can customize for anything to names, for people's photos

1875
01:26:03,853 --> 01:26:06,973
Speaker 13: or family photos, and we can incorporate that. And it

1876
01:26:07,053 --> 01:26:09,293
Speaker 13: all comes with a phone light, so you can use

1877
01:26:09,333 --> 01:26:10,932
Speaker 13: the switch the light on and off with your.

1878
01:26:10,853 --> 01:26:13,812
Speaker 2: Phone and wow, those are really cool man.

1879
01:26:14,372 --> 01:26:16,973
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this statue. I know it's coming soon, but

1880
01:26:17,053 --> 01:26:17,732
Speaker 3: I like the look of that.

1881
01:26:17,853 --> 01:26:18,013
Speaker 2: Man.

1882
01:26:18,093 --> 01:26:21,372
Speaker 3: So you can turn yourself or somebody else into a lamp.

1883
01:26:21,772 --> 01:26:22,372
Speaker 3: How amazing.

1884
01:26:22,572 --> 01:26:26,572
Speaker 13: Yeah, into figurines, into little ornaments. We can turn people

1885
01:26:26,612 --> 01:26:29,612
Speaker 13: into ornaments. And yeah, just for this week.

1886
01:26:30,532 --> 01:26:32,213
Speaker 10: As of next week Friday, if.

1887
01:26:32,293 --> 01:26:35,452
Speaker 13: Anybody wants, they can use the Matt and Tyler discount code.

1888
01:26:36,492 --> 01:26:39,492
Speaker 2: Oh you're a good man, Matt and Tyler. I know

1889
01:26:39,612 --> 01:26:40,093
Speaker 2: those guys.

1890
01:26:40,213 --> 01:26:42,412
Speaker 13: Yeah a nd Matt and Tyler.

1891
01:26:43,013 --> 01:26:46,532
Speaker 2: How good. I might be using that discount code because

1892
01:26:46,572 --> 01:26:47,933
Speaker 2: I need a lamp. I'm just looking at these. So

1893
01:26:48,133 --> 01:26:50,733
Speaker 2: so you've got these ones that are pre set designs.

1894
01:26:51,933 --> 01:26:54,293
Speaker 2: But you can also because these pre set designs are bloody,

1895
01:26:54,372 --> 01:26:56,572
Speaker 2: they're beautiful. Look at that the light.

1896
01:26:57,013 --> 01:26:59,572
Speaker 13: My partner's quite the artist, so she she she does

1897
01:26:59,612 --> 01:27:00,452
Speaker 13: a lot of our designs.

1898
01:27:00,853 --> 01:27:02,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, the light of legacy.

1899
01:27:02,772 --> 01:27:03,093
Speaker 15: I like that.

1900
01:27:03,572 --> 01:27:07,133
Speaker 2: That's that's beautiful, that's this is these These are very cool, mate.

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01:27:07,253 --> 01:27:07,452
Speaker 24: Yeah.

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01:27:07,652 --> 01:27:09,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, seeing them for the first time, this is a

1903
01:27:09,612 --> 01:27:12,012
Speaker 2: genuine reaction, you know it is. Yeah. Yeah.

1904
01:27:12,253 --> 01:27:14,132
Speaker 3: And how's business going at the moment.

1905
01:27:14,013 --> 01:27:18,053
Speaker 13: Henry, Oh, it's going. It's going really awesome actually at

1906
01:27:18,093 --> 01:27:23,092
Speaker 13: the moment. And yeah, Christmas obviously is that is the season.

1907
01:27:23,213 --> 01:27:26,133
Speaker 13: So people are ordering quite a bit. But we get

1908
01:27:26,253 --> 01:27:28,213
Speaker 13: quite a few from our community because we give quite

1909
01:27:28,532 --> 01:27:30,532
Speaker 13: a lot of three things away to our community. So

1910
01:27:31,333 --> 01:27:34,093
Speaker 13: our local kindergarten, we gave every kid some free toys

1911
01:27:34,133 --> 01:27:34,612
Speaker 13: for Christmas.

1912
01:27:34,652 --> 01:27:37,172
Speaker 4: Call family is doing it but hard yep.

1913
01:27:37,492 --> 01:27:40,812
Speaker 3: Man, you guys are good people. So that website Nesian Elements,

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01:27:40,812 --> 01:27:43,532
Speaker 3: I'll spell that out for our listeners. N ees i

1915
01:27:43,853 --> 01:27:46,253
Speaker 3: a n elements dot co dot n z.

1916
01:27:47,973 --> 01:27:48,173
Speaker 5: Yep.

1917
01:27:48,412 --> 01:27:50,333
Speaker 13: And we're also on Facebook and Instagram as well.

1918
01:27:52,853 --> 01:27:56,452
Speaker 2: Painted Guiding Wales a cool one as well. Awesome. Yeah,

1919
01:27:56,692 --> 01:27:59,972
Speaker 2: thank you so much, Henry. So that is Anesian Elements

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01:28:00,013 --> 01:28:02,572
Speaker 2: dot cod on zed and there's a Matt and Tyler

1921
01:28:02,772 --> 01:28:04,412
Speaker 2: free shipping code there.

1922
01:28:04,492 --> 01:28:07,173
Speaker 3: How good your allegiend, mate, go well, thank you very

1923
01:28:07,213 --> 01:28:10,492
Speaker 3: much for giving us a bud guys Christmas. Merry Christmas

1924
01:28:10,532 --> 01:28:12,973
Speaker 3: to you, Amanda, Welcome.

1925
01:28:12,692 --> 01:28:15,532
Speaker 2: To the show. You've got a go. So you're operating

1926
01:28:15,532 --> 01:28:16,532
Speaker 2: out of Wellington, I believe.

1927
01:28:17,293 --> 01:28:20,733
Speaker 27: Yeah, we've got a little family owned Wellington based tea business.

1928
01:28:21,652 --> 01:28:22,692
Speaker 2: So a tea business.

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01:28:22,853 --> 01:28:26,012
Speaker 27: Talk us through that teas So it's called T left

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01:28:26,293 --> 01:28:29,213
Speaker 27: T L E A F T dot Co Dozens and

1931
01:28:29,253 --> 01:28:32,532
Speaker 27: we've got a store up Jig's Arcade in Wellington and

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01:28:32,652 --> 01:28:36,452
Speaker 27: we've got obviously the online store. We do one hundred

1933
01:28:36,492 --> 01:28:39,972
Speaker 27: and seventy different quality teas and infusions, a whole bunch

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01:28:40,013 --> 01:28:43,333
Speaker 27: of accessories and gift packaging all of that stuff. So

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01:28:43,412 --> 01:28:45,372
Speaker 27: we've sort of got something for every kind of tea lover.

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01:28:45,452 --> 01:28:47,732
Speaker 27: But in particular we do a lovely range of New

1937
01:28:47,812 --> 01:28:52,253
Speaker 27: Zealand teas with unique New Zealand botanicals blended in with them.

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01:28:52,293 --> 01:28:53,452
Speaker 12: That's all done out at.

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01:28:53,412 --> 01:28:57,372
Speaker 27: Our per Tony store factory out there. And yeah, it's

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01:28:57,412 --> 01:28:59,652
Speaker 27: got all sorts of gifts if we kind.

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01:28:59,532 --> 01:28:59,972
Speaker 21: Of tea lover.

1942
01:29:00,253 --> 01:29:02,893
Speaker 3: And where do you source your right botanicals from? And

1943
01:29:03,173 --> 01:29:06,333
Speaker 3: the tea leaves, so most of the tea.

1944
01:29:06,253 --> 01:29:08,812
Speaker 27: Leaves come from overseas because of course we don't grow

1945
01:29:08,973 --> 01:29:12,293
Speaker 27: tea in New Zealand apart from the long teas. So

1946
01:29:13,013 --> 01:29:15,532
Speaker 27: you usually use a tea estate as a base for

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01:29:15,652 --> 01:29:18,372
Speaker 27: something that comes from a farm or a Judge yealing

1948
01:29:18,452 --> 01:29:21,772
Speaker 27: tea or something from Sri Lanka, Ceylon base teas, and

1949
01:29:21,893 --> 01:29:25,293
Speaker 27: then we blend them with stuff that we find here

1950
01:29:25,372 --> 01:29:26,853
Speaker 27: like Coward cow afire.

1951
01:29:26,652 --> 01:29:32,133
Speaker 2: And so your website's tea leaf tea dot codnz. But

1952
01:29:32,213 --> 01:29:35,293
Speaker 2: it's like the letter T than leaf than tea dot Codenzi.

1953
01:29:35,492 --> 01:29:35,933
Speaker 5: You got it.

1954
01:29:36,133 --> 01:29:37,293
Speaker 27: Yep, that's exactly right.

1955
01:29:37,532 --> 01:29:37,732
Speaker 21: You go.

1956
01:29:37,893 --> 01:29:41,492
Speaker 2: There's a great Christmas present option spending money locally.

1957
01:29:41,732 --> 01:29:45,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic, this is great. Yeah when when? Yeah, Amanda,

1958
01:29:45,973 --> 01:29:47,772
Speaker 3: thank you very much. We'll take a few more calls

1959
01:29:47,812 --> 01:29:50,133
Speaker 3: on our eight hundred and eighty ten eight. If you

1960
01:29:50,213 --> 01:29:51,532
Speaker 3: are a producer, love to hear from you.

1961
01:29:52,173 --> 01:29:55,452
Speaker 2: Julia Julie asks, men, can you please put up a

1962
01:29:55,572 --> 01:30:00,173
Speaker 2: list of your callers great gift websites somewhere please? Well

1963
01:30:00,973 --> 01:30:02,452
Speaker 2: have you been running down all these ones?

1964
01:30:02,732 --> 01:30:02,972
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1965
01:30:03,253 --> 01:30:05,213
Speaker 3: Can I I've just been writing down the names are

1966
01:30:05,213 --> 01:30:06,812
Speaker 3: the people who have called through on the phone, because

1967
01:30:06,812 --> 01:30:09,532
Speaker 3: we've had hundreds of hundreds of tea So I think

1968
01:30:09,572 --> 01:30:12,732
Speaker 3: what we'll do, We'll go through the various company names

1969
01:30:13,412 --> 01:30:15,692
Speaker 3: and if you're if you've got Google, yeah, and that's

1970
01:30:15,732 --> 01:30:17,732
Speaker 3: the best way to find them. Yeah, so we'll go

1971
01:30:17,893 --> 01:30:19,293
Speaker 3: through that before we wrap this up.

1972
01:30:19,372 --> 01:30:21,333
Speaker 2: But as for putting on the website, the entire rest

1973
01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:23,293
Speaker 2: of the company is currently at the Christmas party, so

1974
01:30:23,532 --> 01:30:25,412
Speaker 2: we don't really have any tech backup to put it up.

1975
01:30:25,452 --> 01:30:26,572
Speaker 2: So it'll have to be a verbal list.

1976
01:30:26,692 --> 01:30:28,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, our digital man's half cut by now right back

1977
01:30:29,093 --> 01:30:31,972
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is twenty one past three. But taking

1978
01:30:32,013 --> 01:30:34,572
Speaker 3: your calls O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty notice or.

1979
01:30:34,532 --> 01:30:36,253
Speaker 2: Report, isn't it absolutely shocking?

1980
01:30:36,253 --> 01:30:36,452
Speaker 5: Start?

1981
01:30:36,532 --> 01:30:37,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, shocking. He's going to regret that.

1982
01:30:42,572 --> 01:30:46,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1983
01:30:46,333 --> 01:30:48,213
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1984
01:30:48,213 --> 01:30:50,732
Speaker 3: Twenty three past three. We're talking about buying New Zealand

1985
01:30:50,853 --> 01:30:54,052
Speaker 3: made products this Christmas. Win when win for your loved

1986
01:30:54,093 --> 01:30:56,293
Speaker 3: ones and win for our economy and the good people

1987
01:30:56,412 --> 01:30:59,492
Speaker 3: doing it doing the work for our economy business owners.

1988
01:30:59,772 --> 01:31:02,612
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, people can celebrate with lizards, tintillas, tortoises and

1989
01:31:02,692 --> 01:31:06,412
Speaker 2: many other amazing animals. Zoo Ventures creates New Zealand made

1990
01:31:06,412 --> 01:31:09,932
Speaker 2: memories and pets and exotic animals through birthday and excess parties.

1991
01:31:09,973 --> 01:31:12,293
Speaker 2: Workplace well being in educational workshops.

1992
01:31:11,933 --> 01:31:16,293
Speaker 3: Is Sally Nice Zoo Ventures dot Co Doors in Chinchilla.

1993
01:31:16,412 --> 01:31:20,652
Speaker 3: Good times, Pepper, How are you this afternoon? Hello?

1994
01:31:22,133 --> 01:31:22,253
Speaker 5: Hi?

1995
01:31:22,893 --> 01:31:23,732
Speaker 24: What do you got for us?

1996
01:31:25,372 --> 01:31:28,133
Speaker 28: I make handmade scrunches and boughs for your hair.

1997
01:31:29,013 --> 01:31:31,452
Speaker 2: Oh, scrunchies like this what you put around a ponytawer

1998
01:31:31,532 --> 01:31:31,892
Speaker 2: kind of thing?

1999
01:31:32,893 --> 01:31:33,093
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2000
01:31:33,253 --> 01:31:33,812
Speaker 28: And bows?

2001
01:31:34,412 --> 01:31:36,213
Speaker 3: That's cool? And how long have you been doing that?

2002
01:31:36,293 --> 01:31:36,333
Speaker 25: For?

2003
01:31:36,452 --> 01:31:36,772
Speaker 24: Pepper?

2004
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:42,652
Speaker 20: I think I started quite young, maybe like twelve or something,

2005
01:31:42,732 --> 01:31:44,892
Speaker 20: but I've only really bought it at this year.

2006
01:31:44,973 --> 01:31:45,692
Speaker 28: I'm sixteen.

2007
01:31:46,412 --> 01:31:46,852
Speaker 14: Good on you.

2008
01:31:47,333 --> 01:31:50,253
Speaker 2: Good on you entrepreneurial in your teenage years? And how

2009
01:31:50,293 --> 01:31:53,133
Speaker 2: could people get hold of you your scrunches and bow's Pepper?

2010
01:31:54,732 --> 01:31:58,012
Speaker 5: You can check my Instagram Facebook called TikTok at sweet

2011
01:31:58,053 --> 01:31:58,853
Speaker 5: apple scrunches.

2012
01:31:59,772 --> 01:32:00,372
Speaker 2: What was that again?

2013
01:32:00,412 --> 01:32:00,652
Speaker 4: Sorry?

2014
01:32:01,772 --> 01:32:02,973
Speaker 5: Sweet apple scrunches?

2015
01:32:03,093 --> 01:32:07,213
Speaker 2: Sweet apple sweet apple scrunchies.

2016
01:32:07,572 --> 01:32:10,732
Speaker 3: Great name, okay, brilliant.

2017
01:32:10,772 --> 01:32:14,293
Speaker 2: Well, have a merry Christmas and I hope you shift

2018
01:32:14,333 --> 01:32:16,772
Speaker 2: some units on the back of this phone call, and

2019
01:32:17,013 --> 01:32:18,893
Speaker 2: good luck going forward with that. It's so good that

2020
01:32:18,973 --> 01:32:22,572
Speaker 2: you're getting stuck into this so early in life.

2021
01:32:25,013 --> 01:32:26,852
Speaker 3: You're going to go a long way, Papa, how good

2022
01:32:26,933 --> 01:32:30,492
Speaker 3: sweet Apple scrunches. Go check her out on Facebook and

2023
01:32:30,652 --> 01:32:32,972
Speaker 3: Instagram and welcome to the show.

2024
01:32:34,133 --> 01:32:36,892
Speaker 28: Oh hello, I was listening to you on my way

2025
01:32:37,293 --> 01:32:41,253
Speaker 28: home from Palmerston North and I don't make anything, but

2026
01:32:41,333 --> 01:32:43,012
Speaker 28: you were talking about New Zealand gifts.

2027
01:32:44,093 --> 01:32:44,253
Speaker 6: Now.

2028
01:32:44,412 --> 01:32:48,013
Speaker 28: A few years ago I got a group booking of

2029
01:32:48,213 --> 01:32:51,252
Speaker 28: twelve to go to wet A workshop for Christmas.

2030
01:32:51,532 --> 01:32:54,772
Speaker 2: Oh yes, and it was cheaper than buy and twelve

2031
01:32:54,853 --> 01:32:59,013
Speaker 2: presents and fantastic. I've been there before and it's an

2032
01:32:59,053 --> 01:33:00,012
Speaker 2: amazing experience.

2033
01:33:00,853 --> 01:33:05,133
Speaker 28: Well none of them have been there. And for some

2034
01:33:05,412 --> 01:33:09,052
Speaker 28: people like I thought of going out to the island,

2035
01:33:09,133 --> 01:33:11,092
Speaker 28: but some of them have done that, so we couldn't

2036
01:33:11,173 --> 01:33:16,293
Speaker 28: do that. Some people, you know, I know it's a

2037
01:33:16,333 --> 01:33:18,572
Speaker 28: bit of a shop when you price what it costs

2038
01:33:18,692 --> 01:33:21,412
Speaker 28: to have an experience and go to the zoo if

2039
01:33:21,452 --> 01:33:24,532
Speaker 28: you've got a number to take, it's quite surprising. But

2040
01:33:24,652 --> 01:33:26,652
Speaker 28: I was also thinking that for people who don't have

2041
01:33:26,732 --> 01:33:29,732
Speaker 28: a lot of money, take the kids to a swimming

2042
01:33:29,772 --> 01:33:31,213
Speaker 28: pool they don't usually go to.

2043
01:33:31,772 --> 01:33:35,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fantastic idea, Thank you so much. And experiences, yeah,

2044
01:33:35,933 --> 01:33:39,852
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes experiences last longer than physical gifts.

2045
01:33:39,973 --> 01:33:42,453
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they go a long way. What a great discussion.

2046
01:33:42,532 --> 01:33:44,372
Speaker 3: So it's the text to ask could we put all

2047
01:33:44,412 --> 01:33:46,612
Speaker 3: the businesses up online? But we've had so many through

2048
01:33:46,732 --> 01:33:49,892
Speaker 3: and our digital man is at the Christmas party having

2049
01:33:49,973 --> 01:33:51,892
Speaker 3: probably too much of a good time. Oh my goodness,

2050
01:33:51,893 --> 01:33:53,253
Speaker 3: it's pretty crazy the photos.

2051
01:33:53,652 --> 01:33:55,972
Speaker 2: He's a shamuzzle. Yeah, he's a disgrace.

2052
01:33:56,093 --> 01:33:58,333
Speaker 3: You did this to yourself, brother, But here we go.

2053
01:33:58,532 --> 01:34:00,972
Speaker 3: So a quick run through the businesses who called through.

2054
01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:05,333
Speaker 3: White Stone Cheese, good people, sustain and grow, the Greenstone Shop,

2055
01:34:05,572 --> 01:34:10,692
Speaker 3: Shoreline Studio, Tumbleweed Teas, Power blue Pearls, do not disturb,

2056
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:13,532
Speaker 3: Sleep Company, great imasks of course, the.

2057
01:34:13,572 --> 01:34:15,333
Speaker 2: Knee I'm buying from them for Christmas.

2058
01:34:15,412 --> 01:34:18,612
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, good people, Nesian Elements lamps which are beautiful lamps.

2059
01:34:18,973 --> 01:34:22,812
Speaker 3: We also had Tea Leaf Tea down in Wellington, Kiwe

2060
01:34:22,933 --> 01:34:27,612
Speaker 3: Car Games, Jayworld Photography and Sweet Apple Crunches by Pepper.

2061
01:34:27,853 --> 01:34:28,013
Speaker 5: Ah.

2062
01:34:28,133 --> 01:34:30,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh how good.

2063
01:34:30,452 --> 01:34:30,652
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2064
01:34:30,772 --> 01:34:34,012
Speaker 2: I feel full of Christmas spirit and chair and vigor

2065
01:34:34,213 --> 01:34:38,492
Speaker 2: meto and you know, positive New Zealand vibes.

2066
01:34:38,812 --> 01:34:41,892
Speaker 3: Give them a taste, as you say to Key Wei

2067
01:34:42,013 --> 01:34:45,932
Speaker 3: this Christmas. People have plenty of ideas out there. Fantastic discussion.

2068
01:34:46,013 --> 01:34:49,692
Speaker 3: Thank you very much right now though it is twenty

2069
01:34:50,173 --> 01:34:52,133
Speaker 3: seven past three and the.

2070
01:34:52,173 --> 01:34:54,012
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week is up next.

2071
01:34:54,253 --> 01:34:55,612
Speaker 3: Super excited for that.

2072
01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:01,452
Speaker 4: You talk, said the headlines.

2073
01:35:01,093 --> 01:35:03,772
Speaker 7: What's blue bubble tax? See it's no trouble with the

2074
01:35:03,853 --> 01:35:07,253
Speaker 7: blue bubble. Surprise from the victims. At the twenty six

2075
01:35:07,412 --> 01:35:10,412
Speaker 7: month prisons sentence handed out to former Glory of Vale

2076
01:35:10,492 --> 01:35:13,772
Speaker 7: leader Howard Temple, most expected he would be given home

2077
01:35:13,812 --> 01:35:16,933
Speaker 7: to tention because of his age, his eighty five and

2078
01:35:17,293 --> 01:35:21,812
Speaker 7: his deteriorating health. Unions are slamming the government's forty five

2079
01:35:21,933 --> 01:35:25,532
Speaker 7: cent minimum wage increase, with the PSA calling it cruel

2080
01:35:25,692 --> 01:35:29,013
Speaker 7: and calculated. The minimum wage will rise to twenty three

2081
01:35:29,093 --> 01:35:33,173
Speaker 7: dollars and ninety five cents from April next year. Fire

2082
01:35:33,213 --> 01:35:36,333
Speaker 7: and Emergency received twenty two emergency calls during a one

2083
01:35:36,412 --> 01:35:40,173
Speaker 7: hour planned action by union members this afternoon. Twelve of

2084
01:35:40,213 --> 01:35:43,372
Speaker 7: the calls were in areas impacted by the strike. They

2085
01:35:43,412 --> 01:35:47,173
Speaker 7: included two medical emergencies, a residential gas leak, and a

2086
01:35:47,293 --> 01:35:52,692
Speaker 7: small backyard fire Inland. Revenue has rectified an error affecting

2087
01:35:52,772 --> 01:35:56,093
Speaker 7: more than one hundred and fifty thousand student loans. Some

2088
01:35:56,293 --> 01:35:59,892
Speaker 7: will receive a credit or refund. An average of ten dollars,

2089
01:36:00,253 --> 01:36:03,892
Speaker 7: while others will see interest added and then immediately written off.

2090
01:36:04,612 --> 01:36:07,532
Speaker 7: And in the cricket, New Zealand have won the Second

2091
01:36:07,812 --> 01:36:11,252
Speaker 7: Test in Wellington against the West Indies by nine wickets.

2092
01:36:11,973 --> 01:36:15,652
Speaker 7: In New Zealand ditches new flight safety video and cost crunch.

2093
01:36:16,013 --> 01:36:18,372
Speaker 7: You can see this and more from Media Insider at

2094
01:36:18,492 --> 01:36:22,692
Speaker 7: nsaid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams, The.

2095
01:36:22,853 --> 01:36:27,932
Speaker 1: Matteath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

2096
01:36:28,173 --> 01:36:31,253
Speaker 2: It's time once again for our show's most popular segment,

2097
01:36:31,652 --> 01:36:34,852
Speaker 2: the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of

2098
01:36:35,013 --> 01:36:37,652
Speaker 2: the Week. Thank you so much for your hundreds of

2099
01:36:37,692 --> 01:36:40,772
Speaker 2: nominations on nine two ninety two. But as always, there

2100
01:36:40,853 --> 01:36:43,732
Speaker 2: can be only one. And remember the winner may not

2101
01:36:43,853 --> 01:36:46,133
Speaker 2: always be a sentient being, but they will be a

2102
01:36:46,213 --> 01:36:48,333
Speaker 2: kiwi and they will have been talked about on the

2103
01:36:48,372 --> 01:36:50,852
Speaker 2: show and they will have had an outsized effect on

2104
01:36:50,933 --> 01:36:56,092
Speaker 2: our great and beautiful land. So, without further punishing admin,

2105
01:36:56,372 --> 01:37:04,052
Speaker 2: here is the first runner up. The day may come

2106
01:37:04,293 --> 01:37:06,892
Speaker 2: for you as it has come for this man, when

2107
01:37:06,933 --> 01:37:11,333
Speaker 2: we must stand up to an logical uncaring power. Earlier

2108
01:37:11,412 --> 01:37:14,812
Speaker 2: this year, This Auckland gentleman was unloading year to help

2109
01:37:14,893 --> 01:37:19,092
Speaker 2: restore the thirty million dollar council back Saint James Theater

2110
01:37:19,213 --> 01:37:23,093
Speaker 2: project when Auckland Transport slapped him with a fine in

2111
01:37:23,213 --> 01:37:26,852
Speaker 2: a peak eight move. No provision for stopping has been made,

2112
01:37:27,093 --> 01:37:28,012
Speaker 2: so they took him to court.

2113
01:37:28,093 --> 01:37:31,053
Speaker 3: That the prosecutor suggested that you know public transport can

2114
01:37:31,093 --> 01:37:33,533
Speaker 3: be used to help load and this as ludicrous.

2115
01:37:34,253 --> 01:37:37,452
Speaker 2: It's inopical for standing up for common sense and taking

2116
01:37:37,652 --> 01:37:43,572
Speaker 2: on an illogical bureaucracy. Steve Belby, you are our second

2117
01:37:43,612 --> 01:37:47,852
Speaker 2: runner up for New Zealander of the Week. A diamond

2118
01:37:48,093 --> 01:37:51,652
Speaker 2: in flu now onto our first runner up.

2119
01:37:52,133 --> 01:37:58,333
Speaker 29: These two kiwis just relegated Australia's beloved royal heidiness Bunnyman

2120
01:37:58,372 --> 01:38:02,213
Speaker 29: Oags and number two Lord and Her songwriter producer Joe

2121
01:38:02,333 --> 01:38:06,692
Speaker 29: Little for creating Royals and winning Rolling Stone's Best Australasian

2122
01:38:06,893 --> 01:38:08,253
Speaker 29: Song of the twenty first century.

2123
01:38:08,853 --> 01:38:11,932
Speaker 2: You are first runner up the New Zealander of the Week.

2124
01:38:13,572 --> 01:38:15,372
Speaker 2: You're having a Christmas party today, Well, it's not a

2125
01:38:15,452 --> 01:38:16,052
Speaker 2: Christmas party.

2126
01:38:16,173 --> 01:38:18,132
Speaker 7: It's a non denominational holiday mixer.

2127
01:38:18,372 --> 01:38:19,172
Speaker 2: It's not happening.

2128
01:38:19,333 --> 01:38:22,412
Speaker 9: What all branch Christmas parties are canceled.

2129
01:38:22,452 --> 01:38:23,652
Speaker 2: All right, it's canceled.

2130
01:38:24,053 --> 01:38:25,772
Speaker 4: A few moments later.

2131
01:38:27,013 --> 01:38:30,892
Speaker 3: Tuday, this week's winner isn't a person.

2132
01:38:31,133 --> 01:38:35,492
Speaker 2: It's an institution. An institution under attack from the evil

2133
01:38:35,612 --> 01:38:38,293
Speaker 2: Health and Safety at Work Act and an anti fun

2134
01:38:38,372 --> 01:38:41,093
Speaker 2: agenda that missing trops across the land want to force

2135
01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:44,213
Speaker 2: on the fun loving rest of us. But we say nay.

2136
01:38:44,812 --> 01:38:48,012
Speaker 2: Tis the time of the year to costume, up raise

2137
01:38:48,053 --> 01:38:51,732
Speaker 2: a glass and celebrate twelve months of hard work together,

2138
01:38:53,253 --> 01:38:57,213
Speaker 2: the great New Zealand Work Christmas. Do you bring us together?

2139
01:38:57,532 --> 01:39:00,492
Speaker 2: You put an exclamation mark at the end of the year.

2140
01:39:01,213 --> 01:39:05,412
Speaker 2: You are the man. He and Tyler Adams Afternoons New

2141
01:39:05,492 --> 01:39:09,652
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week and if you go to one,

2142
01:39:09,933 --> 01:39:12,372
Speaker 2: just make sure you don't do what one text in

2143
01:39:12,492 --> 01:39:16,012
Speaker 2: the show this week did it their and soil yourself.

2144
01:39:16,572 --> 01:39:19,013
Speaker 2: Take it away, Howie Morrison.

2145
01:39:41,093 --> 01:39:44,412
Speaker 3: News Talk z B. When Sir Terrorist John Clark passed

2146
01:39:44,412 --> 01:39:47,452
Speaker 3: away in twenty seventeen, the world mourned and icon, a

2147
01:39:47,532 --> 01:39:50,612
Speaker 3: defining comedic voice who wrote and appeared in numerous films

2148
01:39:50,652 --> 01:39:54,772
Speaker 3: and TV productions, and scured political hypocrisy for almost thirty

2149
01:39:54,893 --> 01:39:58,012
Speaker 3: years on Current Affairs show. He gave away very little

2150
01:39:58,093 --> 01:40:01,333
Speaker 3: about his own life, a new documentary, Not Only fred

2151
01:40:01,412 --> 01:40:04,812
Speaker 3: Dagg is a remarkable series of recorded conversations between John

2152
01:40:04,893 --> 01:40:07,933
Speaker 3: and his daughter, writer director Lauren Clark, which traces his

2153
01:40:08,013 --> 01:40:11,053
Speaker 3: stead fast resistance to authority back to his childhood and

2154
01:40:11,133 --> 01:40:15,053
Speaker 3: offers incredible insights into his incredible life. The film is

2155
01:40:15,173 --> 01:40:17,333
Speaker 3: out in theaters on Boxing Day here in New Zealand.

2156
01:40:17,412 --> 01:40:19,812
Speaker 3: Joining us now is writer and director and of course,

2157
01:40:19,893 --> 01:40:22,372
Speaker 3: Jean Clark's daughter, Lauren Clark. Nice to see you, Lauren.

2158
01:40:22,532 --> 01:40:24,253
Speaker 9: No, so nice to be here, guys.

2159
01:40:24,452 --> 01:40:27,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for coming in now. You know,

2160
01:40:27,253 --> 01:40:29,132
Speaker 2: John Clark's a bit of an enigma for me. I've

2161
01:40:29,333 --> 01:40:32,213
Speaker 2: watched him my whole life, you know, both the stuff

2162
01:40:32,253 --> 01:40:35,973
Speaker 2: he did in New Zealand and then in Australia. Incredible

2163
01:40:36,173 --> 01:40:40,053
Speaker 2: man and obviously he made millions of people laugh. What

2164
01:40:40,213 --> 01:40:43,412
Speaker 2: was he like at home? Was a house full of

2165
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Speaker 2: sharp satirical comments.

2166
01:40:46,093 --> 01:40:47,692
Speaker 9: He was a boring bastard.

2167
01:40:47,812 --> 01:40:52,692
Speaker 22: No, he was lovely and very funny and I one

2168
01:40:52,732 --> 01:40:54,612
Speaker 22: of the things I wanted to sort of celebrate in

2169
01:40:54,732 --> 01:40:59,093
Speaker 22: this film is like, you know, when you see somebody's

2170
01:40:59,293 --> 01:41:01,132
Speaker 22: work and you like it and you think I'm connecting

2171
01:41:01,213 --> 01:41:02,732
Speaker 22: with this, I think I know who this person is.

2172
01:41:02,853 --> 01:41:05,412
Speaker 9: And then you find out that they murder people on

2173
01:41:05,452 --> 01:41:06,293
Speaker 9: the weekends or something.

2174
01:41:07,293 --> 01:41:11,413
Speaker 22: I quite liked, you know, I took it a bit seriously,

2175
01:41:11,532 --> 01:41:14,213
Speaker 22: the job of sort of coloring in a little bit

2176
01:41:15,492 --> 01:41:19,493
Speaker 22: what I think he and his audience did together over decades,

2177
01:41:19,612 --> 01:41:22,572
Speaker 22: which is kind of have this connection through a wink

2178
01:41:23,093 --> 01:41:27,852
Speaker 22: down the camera. Although he didn't give you much about

2179
01:41:27,893 --> 01:41:30,213
Speaker 22: who he was as a person, you sort of got

2180
01:41:30,293 --> 01:41:32,692
Speaker 22: a sense of who he was and a little bit

2181
01:41:32,812 --> 01:41:34,772
Speaker 22: the part of this project is me saying, and you

2182
01:41:34,893 --> 01:41:36,372
Speaker 22: were right, that is who he was.

2183
01:41:36,492 --> 01:41:38,092
Speaker 9: So yeah, at home, he was hilarious.

2184
01:41:38,412 --> 01:41:40,532
Speaker 2: He sort of gave people a wink at what they

2185
01:41:40,612 --> 01:41:43,293
Speaker 2: were like in broad strokes of what New Zealanders were

2186
01:41:43,452 --> 01:41:47,532
Speaker 2: like and Australians. Right, he was great at marrowing, mirror

2187
01:41:47,973 --> 01:41:50,412
Speaker 2: mirror ring, mirror ring.

2188
01:41:50,692 --> 01:41:53,093
Speaker 9: He did mirror very well.

2189
01:41:53,293 --> 01:41:58,093
Speaker 22: No, he was a studier of humans, so he had

2190
01:41:58,133 --> 01:42:00,893
Speaker 22: this like innate curiosity that I think he would have

2191
01:42:00,933 --> 01:42:04,173
Speaker 22: had if he was a panel beater, but he he

2192
01:42:05,013 --> 01:42:07,893
Speaker 22: like that became part of his sort of if he

2193
01:42:07,973 --> 01:42:10,692
Speaker 22: had a quest in life, like if he came in here,

2194
01:42:10,812 --> 01:42:15,572
Speaker 22: he'd need to know how many people were between you know,

2195
01:42:15,853 --> 01:42:18,572
Speaker 22: you and him, So he if there was like a

2196
01:42:19,492 --> 01:42:23,013
Speaker 22: Kiwi barista in Fitzroy. He would leave and he'd say,

2197
01:42:23,093 --> 01:42:26,532
Speaker 22: now her auntie, I went to school with my sister

2198
01:42:26,612 --> 01:42:31,173
Speaker 22: Anna or whatever. And because he was that curiosity, he

2199
01:42:31,293 --> 01:42:34,213
Speaker 22: was the curious cat, right, And I think you can

2200
01:42:34,253 --> 01:42:36,173
Speaker 22: see that. He used to say, MY big strength is

2201
01:42:36,213 --> 01:42:37,852
Speaker 22: that I come from my audience, and I.

2202
01:42:38,452 --> 01:42:39,572
Speaker 9: Love I love.

2203
01:42:41,133 --> 01:42:45,572
Speaker 22: Sort of that collaborative, playful thing with language that people

2204
01:42:45,732 --> 01:42:47,692
Speaker 22: do with when they sort of get together.

2205
01:42:47,772 --> 01:42:48,692
Speaker 9: It's a beautiful thing.

2206
01:42:48,812 --> 01:42:50,932
Speaker 3: Did you notice that as a daughter? You mean, it's

2207
01:42:50,973 --> 01:42:53,612
Speaker 3: mentioned in the documentary in film that, as you say,

2208
01:42:53,652 --> 01:42:56,812
Speaker 3: a big curiosity of people. Did you notice that growing up?

2209
01:42:56,853 --> 01:43:00,173
Speaker 3: And then when he created these such iconic characters, your

2210
01:43:00,293 --> 01:43:03,093
Speaker 3: pinpoint elements of I can see where dad got that from.

2211
01:43:03,572 --> 01:43:06,253
Speaker 22: Oh, I mean there's a direct line right which you

2212
01:43:06,452 --> 01:43:10,452
Speaker 22: just which is it's too silly. But when I was

2213
01:43:10,492 --> 01:43:13,452
Speaker 22: a kid, when it was our birthday party and all

2214
01:43:13,532 --> 01:43:15,532
Speaker 22: her neighborhood kids would come over and there'd be cake

2215
01:43:15,532 --> 01:43:18,372
Speaker 22: and stuff, but they'd also be past the parcel, that

2216
01:43:18,612 --> 01:43:20,572
Speaker 22: game where you pass a parcel around, and back in

2217
01:43:20,652 --> 01:43:24,012
Speaker 22: the olden days when I was a child, you would

2218
01:43:24,013 --> 01:43:26,173
Speaker 22: get a you'd get a next layer and there'd be

2219
01:43:26,253 --> 01:43:28,532
Speaker 22: nothing in it. And then the next kid would get

2220
01:43:28,532 --> 01:43:30,133
Speaker 22: it and there'd be another lane and be nothing in it.

2221
01:43:30,213 --> 01:43:33,253
Speaker 22: So the point of the game was to publicly disappoint

2222
01:43:33,333 --> 01:43:37,372
Speaker 22: each child, one by one final child, and he didn't

2223
01:43:37,412 --> 01:43:37,812
Speaker 22: love that.

2224
01:43:38,173 --> 01:43:41,732
Speaker 9: So he would be the paper collector.

2225
01:43:42,452 --> 01:43:46,892
Speaker 22: So once you unwrapped your miserable non gift, you would

2226
01:43:46,973 --> 01:43:50,053
Speaker 22: hand him the paper and he would not quite catch it,

2227
01:43:50,093 --> 01:43:52,652
Speaker 22: and then he'd fall over and then he'd and the

2228
01:43:52,933 --> 01:43:56,133
Speaker 22: hysterics that he would wind us all up into would

2229
01:43:56,173 --> 01:43:58,372
Speaker 22: make this the point. So you didn't care if you

2230
01:43:58,492 --> 01:44:01,452
Speaker 22: got to think. But I as a kid would look

2231
01:44:01,452 --> 01:44:05,372
Speaker 22: at fred dag falling over a fence backwards or or

2232
01:44:05,492 --> 01:44:07,692
Speaker 22: you know, just the sort of physical comedy that he

2233
01:44:07,812 --> 01:44:11,093
Speaker 22: started at with, and I think I know that guy

2234
01:44:12,213 --> 01:44:13,213
Speaker 22: from my loud for it.

2235
01:44:15,133 --> 01:44:19,692
Speaker 2: He had a dislike of authority and at some point

2236
01:44:19,772 --> 01:44:22,013
Speaker 2: in the film, you know, it's mentioned that he was

2237
01:44:22,013 --> 01:44:24,412
Speaker 2: the most cane guy at his school, had the record, right,

2238
01:44:25,053 --> 01:44:27,492
Speaker 2: So how much do you think, you know, the events

2239
01:44:27,492 --> 01:44:31,093
Speaker 2: of his life played into that dislike of authority or

2240
01:44:31,133 --> 01:44:33,013
Speaker 2: pushing back of authority, And how do you think that

2241
01:44:33,333 --> 01:44:34,253
Speaker 2: came through in his work.

2242
01:44:34,933 --> 01:44:37,812
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think that was a key thing, and you

2243
01:44:37,933 --> 01:44:42,452
Speaker 22: can see that there were a lot of people, and

2244
01:44:42,572 --> 01:44:46,372
Speaker 22: not in a particularly you know, on the scale of things,

2245
01:44:46,532 --> 01:44:49,372
Speaker 22: not in a really violent way or anything, but a

2246
01:44:49,412 --> 01:44:51,933
Speaker 22: lot of people kept telling my father when he was

2247
01:44:52,173 --> 01:44:54,893
Speaker 22: very young that he would amount to nothing. And I

2248
01:44:54,973 --> 01:44:57,492
Speaker 22: think if enough people tell you that, you sort of

2249
01:44:58,452 --> 01:45:01,013
Speaker 22: you can react a few ways. And the way he

2250
01:45:01,173 --> 01:45:06,372
Speaker 22: seems to have reacted was to think internally, m, I reckon,

2251
01:45:06,492 --> 01:45:07,812
Speaker 22: that's not quite what you mean.

2252
01:45:07,933 --> 01:45:10,173
Speaker 9: I don't I reckon, You're quite right, I reckon, I'll

2253
01:45:10,213 --> 01:45:13,213
Speaker 9: be all right, and to sort of just.

2254
01:45:14,933 --> 01:45:19,253
Speaker 22: Like you know, presume that he was separate from that

2255
01:45:19,412 --> 01:45:22,053
Speaker 22: in some way, and I think that you can see

2256
01:45:22,133 --> 01:45:23,652
Speaker 22: that in his work forever.

2257
01:45:24,293 --> 01:45:25,293
Speaker 9: But he was allergic to it.

2258
01:45:25,372 --> 01:45:29,692
Speaker 22: I mean, if somebody tried to assert authority for a

2259
01:45:29,812 --> 01:45:32,532
Speaker 22: reason that he didn't understand, he'd try and understand the reason,

2260
01:45:32,612 --> 01:45:34,852
Speaker 22: and then if the person just kept saying because I

2261
01:45:35,013 --> 01:45:38,852
Speaker 22: say so, he would make life so incredibly annoying for

2262
01:45:38,933 --> 01:45:39,452
Speaker 22: that person.

2263
01:45:39,973 --> 01:45:44,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, his encouragement of other creators and other people doing

2264
01:45:44,492 --> 01:45:46,652
Speaker 3: fantastic work. Do you think that's a part of where

2265
01:45:46,692 --> 01:45:50,213
Speaker 3: that comes from? That clearly he would celebrate and give

2266
01:45:50,253 --> 01:45:52,732
Speaker 3: people encouragement. And there's a beautiful line there that when

2267
01:45:52,772 --> 01:45:54,492
Speaker 3: you give them there. They can use that for later,

2268
01:45:54,612 --> 01:45:56,893
Speaker 3: or they can use that at the time. But is

2269
01:45:56,973 --> 01:45:59,372
Speaker 3: there maybe something he felt he didn't get when he

2270
01:45:59,492 --> 01:46:01,253
Speaker 3: was younger, so it was important to pass on to

2271
01:46:01,372 --> 01:46:01,772
Speaker 3: other people.

2272
01:46:02,492 --> 01:46:04,013
Speaker 9: I think it's a little bit that.

2273
01:46:04,173 --> 01:46:07,652
Speaker 22: And it's a little bit that when somebody says something

2274
01:46:07,732 --> 01:46:11,933
Speaker 22: to you like that in the creative context, you know,

2275
01:46:12,133 --> 01:46:15,213
Speaker 22: you're not getting paid a million dollars. You're not There's

2276
01:46:15,253 --> 01:46:17,852
Speaker 22: not a sort of system in the creative world where

2277
01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:20,253
Speaker 22: you can see yourself climbing up a ladder. This sort

2278
01:46:20,293 --> 01:46:23,253
Speaker 22: of isn't a lot there. There's not really much scolding,

2279
01:46:24,293 --> 01:46:27,093
Speaker 22: and so when somebody says, like a few people did

2280
01:46:27,173 --> 01:46:29,893
Speaker 22: say it to Dad, you know, Barry Humphrey said it

2281
01:46:30,013 --> 01:46:32,812
Speaker 22: to him, Spike Milligan said it to him, Peter Cook

2282
01:46:32,853 --> 01:46:33,452
Speaker 22: said it to him.

2283
01:46:34,333 --> 01:46:38,732
Speaker 9: Those things go a long way. And when you are

2284
01:46:38,812 --> 01:46:40,093
Speaker 9: in a position to do something like.

2285
01:46:40,173 --> 01:46:42,893
Speaker 22: That yourself, it feels, like he used to say, it

2286
01:46:42,973 --> 01:46:45,972
Speaker 22: feels like part of the job of being a creative

2287
01:46:46,053 --> 01:46:49,173
Speaker 22: person to sort of, you know, open your arms and.

2288
01:46:49,213 --> 01:46:51,772
Speaker 9: Go, hey, I see yah, yeah, you're part of this.

2289
01:46:52,133 --> 01:46:52,933
Speaker 9: It's fun, isn't it.

2290
01:46:54,933 --> 01:46:59,612
Speaker 2: Speaking of seeing people, there's obviously a huge amount of

2291
01:46:59,853 --> 01:47:02,172
Speaker 2: public footage, and there was a lot of archive footage,

2292
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:04,492
Speaker 2: but there was a lot of personal resources as well

2293
01:47:04,853 --> 01:47:07,012
Speaker 2: that go into the stock of entry. Were there moments

2294
01:47:07,053 --> 01:47:09,412
Speaker 2: where you go, this is for the f and not

2295
01:47:09,893 --> 01:47:12,133
Speaker 2: for the documentary. Was there a differentiation?

2296
01:47:13,173 --> 01:47:15,053
Speaker 22: My mother said to me, you just reminded me when

2297
01:47:15,053 --> 01:47:17,652
Speaker 22: you ask you that question, because I did laugh.

2298
01:47:18,333 --> 01:47:18,772
Speaker 3: She said.

2299
01:47:19,293 --> 01:47:21,892
Speaker 22: At one point it was quite a way through the edit.

2300
01:47:22,612 --> 01:47:25,973
Speaker 22: She said to me, the editor sounds brilliant because I

2301
01:47:26,013 --> 01:47:28,492
Speaker 22: was working. We worked very closely together. I said, his, mum,

2302
01:47:28,572 --> 01:47:30,972
Speaker 22: he's so brilliant, and we you know, it's a really

2303
01:47:31,053 --> 01:47:33,972
Speaker 22: difficult task trying to bring together the story and make

2304
01:47:34,053 --> 01:47:36,532
Speaker 22: it full full, sort of in the right order, in

2305
01:47:36,572 --> 01:47:37,133
Speaker 22: the right way.

2306
01:47:37,213 --> 01:47:39,933
Speaker 9: And he's so brilliant. And she said, I hope I

2307
01:47:40,173 --> 01:47:43,092
Speaker 9: never meet him. And I said, I beg your pardon,

2308
01:47:43,532 --> 01:47:47,772
Speaker 9: and she said, he has seen so many hours of

2309
01:47:47,933 --> 01:47:51,052
Speaker 9: the most boring footage of our life.

2310
01:47:51,612 --> 01:47:54,852
Speaker 22: Because Dad insisted on recording things. He just would put

2311
01:47:54,893 --> 01:47:57,213
Speaker 22: I mean, there is footage that's in the film of

2312
01:47:57,572 --> 01:47:59,972
Speaker 22: he's obviously put the camera on like a bookshelf or something.

2313
01:48:00,452 --> 01:48:04,293
Speaker 22: He's standing there, I'm on the phone. Nothing's happening in it,

2314
01:48:04,492 --> 01:48:06,852
Speaker 22: you know. So she did meet Alec in the end,

2315
01:48:06,933 --> 01:48:10,893
Speaker 22: and you know it was lovely, but that that was

2316
01:48:11,053 --> 01:48:14,133
Speaker 22: such a revealing comment because yeah, there's a lot of

2317
01:48:15,013 --> 01:48:20,213
Speaker 22: stuff there that's too boring for words, and but you know,

2318
01:48:20,532 --> 01:48:22,732
Speaker 22: in a way, like one of the things I love

2319
01:48:22,772 --> 01:48:26,173
Speaker 22: about it is those boring bits show you him.

2320
01:48:26,732 --> 01:48:29,732
Speaker 9: You know, like there's a voicemail in the film, because

2321
01:48:30,253 --> 01:48:33,013
Speaker 9: because I sort of like you yourself.

2322
01:48:33,053 --> 01:48:35,173
Speaker 22: When you're leaving a voicemail for someone in your family,

2323
01:48:35,213 --> 01:48:37,812
Speaker 22: aren't you you have one hundred percent performing for them?

2324
01:48:38,492 --> 01:48:38,692
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2325
01:48:38,893 --> 01:48:42,253
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so great when people have note put the diffident

2326
01:48:42,253 --> 01:48:45,893
Speaker 2: in their life to create the footage that's needed to

2327
01:48:46,013 --> 01:48:47,253
Speaker 2: tell a story, like that's right.

2328
01:48:47,452 --> 01:48:49,652
Speaker 3: Done that, Yeah, big help.

2329
01:48:49,893 --> 01:48:52,093
Speaker 22: Although you know, to be honest, he could have thrown

2330
01:48:52,093 --> 01:48:55,052
Speaker 22: out the odd envelope. I mean, I have the stuff

2331
01:48:55,133 --> 01:48:58,572
Speaker 22: that he's left us with has been so brilliant. Part

2332
01:48:58,652 --> 01:49:00,612
Speaker 22: of the reason why I think we did the film

2333
01:49:00,692 --> 01:49:04,013
Speaker 22: ourselves rather than have somebody else do is we just

2334
01:49:04,093 --> 01:49:05,012
Speaker 22: had so much stuff.

2335
01:49:05,093 --> 01:49:07,972
Speaker 9: But yeah, it is, there's so much.

2336
01:49:08,333 --> 01:49:10,013
Speaker 3: And we're loving this chat. If you're right to just

2337
01:49:10,093 --> 01:49:11,932
Speaker 3: hold here with us for a few more moments, We've

2338
01:49:11,933 --> 01:49:14,213
Speaker 3: got plenty more to ask you. We are, of course

2339
01:49:14,253 --> 01:49:17,333
Speaker 3: talking with Lauren Clark, john Clark's daughter, whose film Not

2340
01:49:17,452 --> 01:49:20,812
Speaker 3: Only fred Dagg hits New Zealand cinemas on Boxing Day.

2341
01:49:21,133 --> 01:49:24,412
Speaker 1: More in a moment, have a chat with the lads

2342
01:49:24,572 --> 01:49:27,412
Speaker 1: On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Matt Heathan Tyler

2343
01:49:27,492 --> 01:49:29,932
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talk sa'd.

2344
01:49:29,732 --> 01:49:33,412
Speaker 3: Be thirteen to four and our special guest is Lauren Clark,

2345
01:49:33,492 --> 01:49:36,772
Speaker 3: daughter of John Clark, whose film Not Only fred Dagg

2346
01:49:37,293 --> 01:49:39,572
Speaker 3: is in New Zealand cinemas on Boxing Day.

2347
01:49:39,893 --> 01:49:42,412
Speaker 2: Tell us about your career that led up to you

2348
01:49:42,692 --> 01:49:45,452
Speaker 2: being able to make this film.

2349
01:49:45,692 --> 01:49:48,933
Speaker 22: I've got a career as a creative person myself, and

2350
01:49:49,013 --> 01:49:51,093
Speaker 22: I always kind of wanted to keep it separate from

2351
01:49:51,173 --> 01:49:53,812
Speaker 22: Dad because he was, you know, he cussed a bit

2352
01:49:53,812 --> 01:49:55,852
Speaker 22: of a shadow. It was a benevolent shadow, but it

2353
01:49:56,013 --> 01:49:59,972
Speaker 22: was Yeah, so I sort of wanted to be slightly separate.

2354
01:50:00,572 --> 01:50:05,013
Speaker 22: But I was a writer and a performer and a

2355
01:50:05,133 --> 01:50:08,933
Speaker 22: director in theater and I did often kids tea. My

2356
01:50:09,293 --> 01:50:11,532
Speaker 22: biggest claim to fame is my involvement in an episode

2357
01:50:11,532 --> 01:50:15,213
Speaker 22: of Blue. I have worked for decades as in radio.

2358
01:50:15,372 --> 01:50:17,652
Speaker 22: That was my job for years. I've worked in radio

2359
01:50:17,692 --> 01:50:22,372
Speaker 22: in Melbourne, so when it came time to do this.

2360
01:50:23,013 --> 01:50:25,692
Speaker 22: I remember explaining to some of the people who came

2361
01:50:25,732 --> 01:50:27,333
Speaker 22: to me and said, hey, what if we told the story.

2362
01:50:27,612 --> 01:50:31,333
Speaker 22: I remember saying, yes, but you know, you need to

2363
01:50:31,412 --> 01:50:33,452
Speaker 22: do this, this, this, And the more I said it,

2364
01:50:33,532 --> 01:50:35,372
Speaker 22: the more I thought, oh, damn it, I'm going to

2365
01:50:35,412 --> 01:50:36,052
Speaker 22: do this myself.

2366
01:50:36,973 --> 01:50:39,932
Speaker 9: But yeah, there's my work slightly different, you can see.

2367
01:50:40,053 --> 01:50:42,253
Speaker 22: So I did a thing called The Fitzroy Diaries, which

2368
01:50:42,333 --> 01:50:47,692
Speaker 22: is an audio serial kind of serialized radio play with

2369
01:50:47,812 --> 01:50:50,612
Speaker 22: a cast of brilliant Australian actors, and I'm in it too,

2370
01:50:50,812 --> 01:50:54,692
Speaker 22: and it's we did three series of that commission by

2371
01:50:54,732 --> 01:50:57,692
Speaker 22: the ABC. It's a podcast as well, and in it

2372
01:50:57,893 --> 01:51:02,652
Speaker 22: you can see kind of you know, a few people

2373
01:51:02,732 --> 01:51:04,973
Speaker 22: have noted since they figured out the connection between me

2374
01:51:05,053 --> 01:51:07,492
Speaker 22: and him, that there are some of those things about

2375
01:51:07,532 --> 01:51:10,732
Speaker 22: like noseous people and stuff that you can see in

2376
01:51:10,812 --> 01:51:11,933
Speaker 22: my work that's also in his.

2377
01:51:12,133 --> 01:51:14,013
Speaker 9: So when it came to sort of.

2378
01:51:14,173 --> 01:51:17,812
Speaker 22: Collaborating with him posthumously for this film, which is what

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Speaker 22: it felt like, we had so much of him talking

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Speaker 22: about himself, he actually felt kind of natural, like it

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Speaker 22: didn't feel.

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Speaker 3: Like such a stretch to making the documentary change any

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Speaker 3: understanding your head of your dad, you had so many

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Speaker 3: incredible people who you interviewed and so much of that

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01:51:34,372 --> 01:51:38,293
Speaker 3: incredible footage. Was there anything you found out during that

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01:51:38,452 --> 01:51:40,492
Speaker 3: process that you thought, hey, I didn't quite know that.

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Speaker 9: I think the New Zealand part of it.

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Speaker 22: For me, I knew it all in theory back academically,

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Speaker 22: on paper, I had it, but being sort of invited

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Speaker 22: back and talking to people I'd never met and sometimes

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01:51:57,933 --> 01:52:01,092
Speaker 22: he did it never met, you know, and talking about

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01:52:01,732 --> 01:52:06,692
Speaker 22: the impact that that character had here, and also as

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Speaker 22: an Australian and outsider also, you know, there was always

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Speaker 22: this thing why did John Clark leave New Zealand. It

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01:52:14,173 --> 01:52:16,372
Speaker 22: was to have a baby in Australia. So there's like

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01:52:16,532 --> 01:52:20,933
Speaker 22: a kind of Yoko element to my existence. So I

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01:52:21,093 --> 01:52:22,893
Speaker 22: kind of was like, how's this going to go? And

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Speaker 22: I think for me, it wasn't so much the facts

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01:52:25,253 --> 01:52:27,933
Speaker 22: that surprised me, but it was how much I just

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01:52:28,013 --> 01:52:31,893
Speaker 22: felt like, oh, I'm here now, and it just was

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01:52:32,013 --> 01:52:34,812
Speaker 22: such a It was moving and it was meaningful for

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01:52:34,853 --> 01:52:36,732
Speaker 22: me on a personal level, you know, because it's a

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01:52:36,812 --> 01:52:39,133
Speaker 22: creative work, so I kind of it's my job.

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01:52:39,213 --> 01:52:41,852
Speaker 9: But then when I was here, I went, oh, hello, no,

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01:52:41,933 --> 01:52:43,133
Speaker 9: it's a little bit more than that isn't it.

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01:52:43,532 --> 01:52:47,733
Speaker 3: Congratulations, It's a beautiful film and incredibly insightful and Kiwi's

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01:52:47,812 --> 01:52:49,772
Speaker 3: get down there. You're going to absolutely love it. But

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01:52:49,973 --> 01:52:50,812
Speaker 3: love chatting with you.

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01:52:51,333 --> 01:52:52,692
Speaker 9: Thanks guys, this has been great.

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01:52:52,812 --> 01:52:55,852
Speaker 3: We'll catch up again so much. You can stuck around, Yeah,

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01:52:55,853 --> 01:52:56,972
Speaker 3: you can stick around as if.

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01:52:56,893 --> 01:52:59,532
Speaker 2: You want to do some talk back with us. I'd

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01:52:59,652 --> 01:53:01,133
Speaker 2: like some parking issues.

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Speaker 5: So I hope.

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Speaker 9: So the bread and butter of all good radio. Thank

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01:53:07,133 --> 01:53:08,052
Speaker 9: you so much for having.

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01:53:07,973 --> 01:53:10,012
Speaker 3: Me, Thank you for coming. And that is Lauren Clark.

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01:53:10,173 --> 01:53:13,013
Speaker 3: Not only fred Dagg is in theaters Boxing Day, Go

2419
01:53:13,173 --> 01:53:15,692
Speaker 3: and see it. It is brilliant. You're listening to News

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01:53:15,772 --> 01:53:17,453
Speaker 3: Talk Zed Bebag very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:53:21,492 --> 01:53:25,612
Speaker 1: everything in between, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks,

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01:53:25,732 --> 01:53:27,532
Speaker 1: ed B, News.

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01:53:27,372 --> 01:53:30,892
Speaker 3: Talks the B seven to four. How amazing is Lauren Clark?

2425
01:53:30,973 --> 01:53:33,333
Speaker 3: What an incredible daughter of an incredible man.

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01:53:33,612 --> 01:53:34,612
Speaker 2: Yes, so when is that movie?

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01:53:34,732 --> 01:53:37,613
Speaker 3: Ut so, not only fred Dagg. It is in cinemas

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01:53:37,692 --> 01:53:40,772
Speaker 3: around the country on Boxing Day and well worth a watch.

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01:53:40,812 --> 01:53:44,133
Speaker 3: It's incredible, all that family footage and a brilliant, brilliant icon.

2430
01:53:44,612 --> 01:53:45,692
Speaker 3: So so funny. It's great.

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01:53:45,812 --> 01:53:48,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was awesome. Hey, thank you so much for

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01:53:48,692 --> 01:53:51,492
Speaker 2: listening every one. As always, we've loved your chat. It's

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01:53:51,532 --> 01:53:52,452
Speaker 2: been a great old time.

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01:53:52,973 --> 01:53:55,253
Speaker 3: Yes, and we get so many great people ringing into

2435
01:53:55,253 --> 01:53:57,013
Speaker 3: the show that every week we pick a caller of

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01:53:57,093 --> 01:53:58,892
Speaker 3: the week, and this week we were having a chat

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01:53:58,933 --> 01:54:02,052
Speaker 3: about taking pride in mowing your own boom when Andy

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01:54:02,133 --> 01:54:04,173
Speaker 3: gave us a buzz And even when the christ Church

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01:54:04,213 --> 01:54:07,333
Speaker 3: earthquake mounted their house in half the streets of New Brighton,

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01:54:07,412 --> 01:54:10,253
Speaker 3: her husband still took his boom responsibility.

2441
01:54:10,372 --> 01:54:12,372
Speaker 2: Seriously, our house was rubbish.

2442
01:54:12,652 --> 01:54:15,652
Speaker 30: I haven't fallen down. It was just it was chaos.

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01:54:15,732 --> 01:54:17,293
Speaker 14: It was like Bosnia and war time.

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01:54:17,732 --> 01:54:20,932
Speaker 30: Anyway, he's out there morying the booth and people, of course,

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01:54:20,973 --> 01:54:24,213
Speaker 30: the red rubber eating driving past our house. He's out

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01:54:24,253 --> 01:54:26,692
Speaker 30: there mowing the boom and people were just throwing remote,

2447
01:54:26,772 --> 01:54:31,133
Speaker 30: laughing at them, taking photos. And he still loves the boom.

2448
01:54:31,532 --> 01:54:35,533
Speaker 30: He's constantly planting things. I've got tulips coming up in spring.

2449
01:54:36,213 --> 01:54:39,293
Speaker 30: I've got a new colosy tree. But the guy across

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01:54:39,413 --> 01:54:44,253
Speaker 30: the road old Andy, different Andy, obviously, but he's out

2451
01:54:44,293 --> 01:54:47,812
Speaker 30: there with us. What looks like nails sizzers a couple

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01:54:47,853 --> 01:54:48,733
Speaker 30: of times a wedding.

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01:54:49,413 --> 01:54:50,852
Speaker 3: Good people, the people.

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01:54:50,933 --> 01:54:53,852
Speaker 2: It's a great call. The great New Zealander Ryan Bridge

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01:54:53,893 --> 01:54:56,533
Speaker 2: isn't going to the work Christmas party. He'll be with

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01:54:56,693 --> 01:54:59,892
Speaker 2: you for Drive after four pm. The podcast of our

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01:54:59,933 --> 01:55:02,173
Speaker 2: show will be up in about now. But Tyler, my

2458
01:55:02,293 --> 01:55:09,333
Speaker 2: good friend, tell me why am I playing this particular song?

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01:55:11,293 --> 01:55:14,653
Speaker 3: This is beautiful Christmas in New Zealand's who's the artist?

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01:55:14,693 --> 01:55:19,173
Speaker 3: Who's the singer? It's Dennis mad.

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01:55:17,893 --> 01:55:19,653
Speaker 2: Because we were saying before. When you're buy a New

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01:55:19,733 --> 01:55:23,013
Speaker 2: Zealand made Christmas present, you give two gifts, one to

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01:55:23,133 --> 01:55:25,772
Speaker 2: the person you love and one to a local business,

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01:55:25,853 --> 01:55:26,573
Speaker 2: so it's win win.

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01:55:26,893 --> 01:55:27,053
Speaker 25: Yeah.

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01:55:27,173 --> 01:55:28,693
Speaker 3: How beautiful water song.

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01:55:28,933 --> 01:55:32,373
Speaker 2: Very funky based in this New Zealand Christmas song, very kiwi.

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01:55:32,613 --> 01:55:37,693
Speaker 2: All right, have a great weekend everyone until Monday after noon,

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01:55:38,253 --> 01:55:40,173
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas and you give them a taste a kiwi

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01:55:40,333 --> 01:55:41,213
Speaker 2: from Matt and Tyler.

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01:55:41,333 --> 01:55:41,733
Speaker 24: I love you.

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01:56:04,693 --> 01:56:08,533
Speaker 2: Leave your work behind and have your holiday.

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01:56:09,613 --> 01:56:13,453
Speaker 1: And try to keep things simple on your Christmas Day.

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01:56:14,933 --> 01:56:17,013
Speaker 19: It's such a special time.

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01:56:16,933 --> 01:56:22,453
Speaker 3: For having friends and family. Need another key week Christmas

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01:56:22,613 --> 01:56:23,173
Speaker 3: time is.

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01:56:25,613 --> 01:56:29,733
Speaker 5: It's Christmas the new deal and then the time is right.

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01:56:31,053 --> 01:56:34,772
Speaker 3: For saying I Love you, and watching stars.

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01:56:34,373 --> 01:56:40,533
Speaker 8: At four barbecues and swimming out across the bay.

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01:56:41,653 --> 01:56:45,493
Speaker 3: Our o Bleak Go spend Christmas in the keet.

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01:56:45,573 --> 01:56:49,852
Speaker 4: We may mails

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01:56:51,413 --> 01:56:53,973
Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b Listen live on

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Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever

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01:56:57,133 --> 01:56:59,653
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