WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 197: Recapping a humiliating loss for the Aussie side 0:00:09.133 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sat B. 0:00:12.413 --> 0:00:19.173 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:20.933 --> 0:00:21.573 Take another. 0:00:22.933 --> 0:00:28.573 It's trick, it is out, The Test is over. Goodness 0:00:29.933 --> 0:00:32.653 a beauty, it is out and here he goes. This 0:00:32.773 --> 0:00:34.573 delivery has a new Many uses. 0:00:34.453 --> 0:00:35.053 To bowl. 0:00:37.293 --> 0:00:40.693 On the front foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 0:00:41.013 --> 0:00:44.853 powered by News Talks head B at iHeartRadio. 0:00:47.893 --> 0:00:51.253 Hello, a busy week on the front foot, India. Make 0:00:51.293 --> 0:00:54.413 a bold statement in Perth. We aren't out of World 0:00:54.413 --> 0:00:58.573 Test Championship just yet. England wom up and Queenstown for 0:00:58.813 --> 0:01:01.773 the first Test of the three against the black Caps, 0:01:02.493 --> 0:01:06.293 and we remember forty six years ago Goodness met another 0:01:06.373 --> 0:01:10.773 first for our cricketers. First Test went over England after 0:01:10.853 --> 0:01:16.293 forty eight years and forty eight tests trying nineteen seventy eight. 0:01:16.373 --> 0:01:19.853 Jeremy Joney, you didn't play in that game, but you're 0:01:19.853 --> 0:01:21.533 going to be there watching just like me. 0:01:22.213 --> 0:01:26.413 I was once Hello to you at I do remember 0:01:26.493 --> 0:01:31.093 it was a bitterly cold couple of first days and 0:01:31.173 --> 0:01:34.333 then I caught There was a rest day I think 0:01:34.373 --> 0:01:39.333 in that Test match, and then I caught the important 0:01:39.413 --> 0:01:41.973 day when New Zealand had to bowl in England out 0:01:42.013 --> 0:01:43.253 and I was there for that too. 0:01:44.253 --> 0:01:47.333 Yeah. I think we'll be talking about a little bit 0:01:47.373 --> 0:01:50.253 later on because a good friend of yours, Rock Collins, 0:01:50.333 --> 0:01:52.173 just going to join us again. He was part of 0:01:52.213 --> 0:01:55.333 that Test match. Played a significant goal too, didn't he. 0:01:56.133 --> 0:01:56.693 Yeah he did. 0:01:57.173 --> 0:01:59.693 He got important wickets I think three in the first 0:01:59.733 --> 0:02:03.853 and certainly we all remember the first one of the 0:02:03.893 --> 0:02:06.973 second lot of three in the second innings. 0:02:07.013 --> 0:02:08.613 Of course, Boycott. 0:02:09.213 --> 0:02:12.493 That's quite a sort of an image of New Zealand cricket, 0:02:12.533 --> 0:02:16.853 isn't it. They had hinted winning games New Zealand and 0:02:16.933 --> 0:02:22.333 seventy three member Trent Bridge and then Lords, but that was. 0:02:22.333 --> 0:02:27.173 Five years earlier. Finally they got this one at the Basin. 0:02:27.493 --> 0:02:31.053 Yep, and it was well achieved. There was a bit 0:02:31.053 --> 0:02:34.653 of puttying after that one as well. We'll get some 0:02:34.893 --> 0:02:39.213 reminiscences from Rock Collins a little later in the program. Boy, 0:02:39.333 --> 0:02:43.093 what an interesting week in Perth, Jeriett. I didn't expect 0:02:43.173 --> 0:02:45.893 that outcome. I didn't expect New Zealand to beat India 0:02:46.013 --> 0:02:49.573 three nil in their series, and I certainly didn't expect 0:02:49.733 --> 0:02:55.653 India to walop Australia. I mean That is embarrassing, humiliating 0:02:55.653 --> 0:02:56.973 defeat for the Aussies, isn't it? 0:02:57.493 --> 0:02:57.933 Massive? 0:02:58.053 --> 0:03:04.133 Margined, massive, Australia flogged really and all the more galling, 0:03:04.253 --> 0:03:06.653 I guess because they were ahead in the game after 0:03:06.693 --> 0:03:10.093 bowling India out on day one for one hundred and fifties, 0:03:10.733 --> 0:03:14.493 so they were in a good position and then Boomer 0:03:14.613 --> 0:03:17.533 came to town, didn't he. I suppose the first thing 0:03:17.573 --> 0:03:21.973 you'd say about that Australia took India to purse with 0:03:22.133 --> 0:03:25.573 one reason. That was to bounce them out hard, to 0:03:25.653 --> 0:03:31.133 score heaps and win conclusively and get India down very 0:03:31.173 --> 0:03:33.773 early on in the tour they were missing a few players, 0:03:34.413 --> 0:03:36.733 and then take them to the day night a pinkball 0:03:36.773 --> 0:03:40.253 game at Adelaide, which is Aussie side know pretty well. 0:03:40.813 --> 0:03:43.173 Yeah, the Aussies looked pretty insipid with the ball. The 0:03:43.213 --> 0:03:45.773 first day they were fine, they looked as so they 0:03:45.813 --> 0:03:48.013 had a bit of paste and energy. The three paste 0:03:48.213 --> 0:03:51.493 ballers did the job. But from then on in after 0:03:51.533 --> 0:03:54.173 they were rolled for one hundred and four, they didn't 0:03:54.173 --> 0:03:55.253 really play a part, did they. 0:03:55.933 --> 0:03:57.853 It was really I suppose. 0:03:57.933 --> 0:04:01.653 First of all, that first day with all those wickets falling, 0:04:01.733 --> 0:04:04.613 I think it was the sort of the past reputation 0:04:04.773 --> 0:04:10.173 of the cracks right throughout this optus pit, and I 0:04:10.173 --> 0:04:13.733 think the ground staff probably were a bit concerned about that, 0:04:13.853 --> 0:04:17.213 and so they added water to prevent them drying out 0:04:17.253 --> 0:04:20.813 and being exposed. And that meant the first day was 0:04:20.893 --> 0:04:25.093 kind of wickets on steroids, wasn't it really? But from 0:04:25.173 --> 0:04:31.413 that first moment when India and Boomera in particular started 0:04:31.413 --> 0:04:36.733 to claim wickets, the Aussies looked a bit lost, didn't 0:04:36.773 --> 0:04:39.773 they sort of that there was a sign posted up 0:04:39.853 --> 0:04:45.493 lost the plot, you know, and if anyone finds the plot, 0:04:45.573 --> 0:04:48.013 please come to the Australian dressing room and ask for 0:04:48.053 --> 0:04:49.053 pat you know. 0:04:49.133 --> 0:04:50.013 It was one of those. 0:04:50.693 --> 0:04:53.853 But and then India sort of built, you know, a 0:04:53.893 --> 0:04:56.373 handi lead they had, and then Jase Wall and Raha 0:04:56.933 --> 0:05:00.173 Kal Rahul had that lovely, you know, really a match 0:05:00.213 --> 0:05:01.213 winning partnership. 0:05:01.893 --> 0:05:04.853 Yeah, and Jess World didn't really show that much against 0:05:04.853 --> 0:05:07.093 the news inders and home conditions, did he had one 0:05:07.133 --> 0:05:11.573 good score. We didn't see anything from any of their 0:05:11.613 --> 0:05:15.013 batsmen to a great degree. And you hear the commentators 0:05:15.053 --> 0:05:17.533 talking about how poor the pictures were during that series 0:05:17.533 --> 0:05:19.133 of Da Da Da Da Dada. Why don't they just 0:05:19.173 --> 0:05:20.573 acknowledge that New Zealand were better. 0:05:20.933 --> 0:05:23.973 Well they were. I mean, you know, those. 0:05:25.493 --> 0:05:28.093 People who've followed the game a lot, they will know 0:05:28.253 --> 0:05:31.253 the answer to those things. They just didn't play very well. 0:05:32.093 --> 0:05:33.693 India and New Zealand were in. 0:05:34.533 --> 0:05:35.533 Those three tests. 0:05:35.933 --> 0:05:40.053 So yeah, I thought Jaceell gives you a bit of 0:05:40.133 --> 0:05:45.053 a chance, doesn't he. He's but he's very attacking. But 0:05:45.373 --> 0:05:48.293 I don't think we should forget those just those good 0:05:48.653 --> 0:05:52.053 leaving the ball and forward and back defense that kept 0:05:52.133 --> 0:05:55.773 him going. I thought Rahul kept him going too, having 0:05:55.773 --> 0:05:58.853 a chat to him a lot and keeping him you know, 0:05:59.013 --> 0:06:00.173 steering him if you. 0:06:00.373 --> 0:06:01.013 Like as well. 0:06:02.173 --> 0:06:05.493 No frozen feet from those two. They had their feet 0:06:05.573 --> 0:06:09.533 going forward or back. I thought Rahul played pretty well actually, 0:06:09.973 --> 0:06:12.213 and they went right through Day two and into Day 0:06:12.253 --> 0:06:14.573 three and then Coley. You know, there was a few 0:06:14.573 --> 0:06:18.973 contributions from other players, but Coley then very professional and 0:06:19.053 --> 0:06:23.053 good timing and kept off a great Day three for India. 0:06:23.093 --> 0:06:26.653 And then of course Bumra came back again and what 0:06:26.693 --> 0:06:29.093 were Ossie three down at the end of the day 0:06:29.453 --> 0:06:33.213 and they must have just they must have just felt humiliated, really, 0:06:33.373 --> 0:06:36.693 I mean, they're normally a very clinical kind of side. 0:06:36.733 --> 0:06:38.373 But I don't know what you thought. But the site 0:06:38.373 --> 0:06:42.013 of Laboshine, you know, the designated bouncer man at one 0:06:42.093 --> 0:06:44.053 hundred and thirty k's in. 0:06:44.053 --> 0:06:47.213 The twenty fifth over while you could still see the 0:06:47.213 --> 0:06:48.373 ball was still new. 0:06:49.293 --> 0:06:52.093 And then later in the day bowling legs spin around 0:06:52.093 --> 0:06:55.253 the wicket, bowling a negative line and getting called for wides. 0:06:55.333 --> 0:06:57.853 I mean the field was just strewn around the boundary. 0:06:58.173 --> 0:07:01.893 It was bewilderment right across the field, it seemed to me. 0:07:02.253 --> 0:07:07.493 And you talked about that's when Australia looked most at loss. 0:07:08.133 --> 0:07:11.173 You see somebody like Lavishee who is pretty much an 0:07:11.293 --> 0:07:14.053 organized batsman, or has been. He's out of touch with 0:07:14.133 --> 0:07:16.533 the bat too, isn't He doesn't look as though he's 0:07:16.733 --> 0:07:18.693 you know, he used to walk out with the bats 0:07:18.693 --> 0:07:21.133 swinging and he scored thirty by the time he got 0:07:21.133 --> 0:07:23.333 to the middle. He doesn't look like that now, as 0:07:23.333 --> 0:07:26.813 though the confidence has gone out of his demeanor. 0:07:27.733 --> 0:07:29.773 I don't think that bowling and know all that sort 0:07:29.773 --> 0:07:31.853 of stuff really helps him either. I think just get 0:07:31.853 --> 0:07:36.213 on with your batting manus. You know, he's always busy 0:07:36.253 --> 0:07:39.613 in the park. He's a good fielder. But yeah, I 0:07:39.693 --> 0:07:41.653 agree with you, I really. 0:07:42.653 --> 0:07:43.493 You couldn't see that. 0:07:43.613 --> 0:07:47.813 It's rather tortuous first innings where he just couldn't he 0:07:48.653 --> 0:07:52.093 as if he wasn't interested in scoring at all and 0:07:52.253 --> 0:07:54.493 I do it lo wasn't easy. And then in the 0:07:54.533 --> 0:07:57.653 second innings to come out and pad it off to 0:07:57.733 --> 0:07:59.373 a ball on middle and off. 0:08:00.933 --> 0:08:01.693 Is unlikely. 0:08:01.853 --> 0:08:04.973 I mean, you know, it's unusual also for a player 0:08:05.013 --> 0:08:07.013 who was the number one batsman in the world. 0:08:08.453 --> 0:08:12.973 Sides have had situations like this. How do you get 0:08:13.053 --> 0:08:16.293 out of it? How do you overcome what has been 0:08:16.333 --> 0:08:19.613 a humiliation? Australians don't like being beaten, but they don't 0:08:19.693 --> 0:08:22.173 like being fresh on their own property, do they. 0:08:22.933 --> 0:08:25.373 Oh, they'll hate it and there will be plenty of discussions, 0:08:25.413 --> 0:08:28.853 you can be sure, certainly in the media. And they'll 0:08:28.893 --> 0:08:32.253 spring into action, won't they. I'm no doubt they've probably 0:08:32.293 --> 0:08:36.693 started and people will be demanding, you know, three or 0:08:36.693 --> 0:08:38.293 four changes. 0:08:39.293 --> 0:08:40.133 That won't happen. 0:08:40.693 --> 0:08:43.853 Yeah, you know, but Ossie, they won't put up with 0:08:44.253 --> 0:08:48.733 a side losing like that. They're generally a well prepared 0:08:48.773 --> 0:08:52.693 and planned team. They usually teams give a side a 0:08:52.693 --> 0:08:56.653 couple of tests, don't they As a minimum they've got 0:08:56.653 --> 0:08:59.213 ten or twelve days now to get back, they've got 0:08:59.253 --> 0:09:01.693 to get back to some great cricket. Wise, great cricket 0:09:01.773 --> 0:09:05.453 is quite strong in Australia, and I would have thought 0:09:05.573 --> 0:09:10.253 players like Labrashine for example, you know, would get back 0:09:10.293 --> 0:09:13.493 and they'd try and get just back to the autist 0:09:13.613 --> 0:09:17.333 getting some rhythm about being a batsman once again. 0:09:17.493 --> 0:09:21.013 You know, they do have some problems, don't they. 0:09:21.373 --> 0:09:24.813 Did you see that graphic that came up at one 0:09:24.893 --> 0:09:29.693 stage where it showed you all the kind of collapses 0:09:29.773 --> 0:09:34.293 of the top order in the last seven tests or 0:09:34.293 --> 0:09:35.053 something like that. 0:09:35.093 --> 0:09:36.853 They were four to sixteen. 0:09:36.453 --> 0:09:40.053 Against Yeah, and New Zealand were there five for eighty 0:09:40.613 --> 0:09:44.973 remember that five for eighty in christ Church, six for 0:09:44.973 --> 0:09:48.293 forty odd and then the first innings and then five 0:09:48.333 --> 0:09:51.213 for seventy and the second in this latest test. 0:09:51.773 --> 0:09:53.373 So they've had a few. 0:09:54.653 --> 0:09:57.693 It's starting to become a bit of a pattern and 0:09:57.733 --> 0:10:01.573 that will be concerning. But it's the Kowaja, the new 0:10:01.653 --> 0:10:08.453 opener to replace, to replace Warner, Lover, Shane and Smooth. Yes, 0:10:09.293 --> 0:10:12.693 they need those guys to start to get back to 0:10:12.733 --> 0:10:14.053 the way that they were playing. 0:10:15.413 --> 0:10:16.693 They will say that. 0:10:16.653 --> 0:10:19.533 Smith started to show a few nascent signs and the 0:10:19.613 --> 0:10:24.453 second innings. They will say Head supplied a bit of 0:10:24.533 --> 0:10:29.493 hope in that second innings. I'll say Mitchell Marsh did 0:10:29.493 --> 0:10:32.093 a bit of the same. I'll say Stark and Hazelwood 0:10:32.413 --> 0:10:36.973 were okay with the ball. Cummings didn't look himself, did he. 0:10:37.053 --> 0:10:39.893 I didn't think he really provided much threat at all. 0:10:40.573 --> 0:10:42.373 But they are pretty good with the pink ball. They 0:10:42.373 --> 0:10:44.493 haven't lost a Test with the pink ball in Adelaide, 0:10:44.613 --> 0:10:47.013 so I wouldn't be surprised if Oz do a lot 0:10:47.053 --> 0:10:47.533 better there. 0:10:48.493 --> 0:10:50.973 Yes, well, David Waller of course has joined the cheerleaders 0:10:50.973 --> 0:10:53.293 now and they're not too concerned. These guys will pull 0:10:53.333 --> 0:10:56.653 themselves out of it. Apparently the television commentators are right 0:10:57.293 --> 0:11:00.773 in behind them and earning their money for hyping up 0:11:00.813 --> 0:11:05.213 the game. And you know nothing is beyond this side, 0:11:05.693 --> 0:11:08.173 so we will have to wait and see. One fan 0:11:08.813 --> 0:11:11.693 didn't take too kindly to the way the Australians playing 0:11:11.813 --> 0:11:15.613 right on a cricket site. Australia look an old sider 0:11:15.653 --> 0:11:18.373 in the match, which I guess with only one player 0:11:18.413 --> 0:11:21.933 in their twenties is exactly what they are. Once the 0:11:22.133 --> 0:11:25.013 likes of Stark, Lion, Kawadru and Smith go they left 0:11:25.013 --> 0:11:27.453 to go through a rebuilding phase. Well, I've never really 0:11:27.533 --> 0:11:29.853 had troubled rebuilding. Are they too old? 0:11:29.893 --> 0:11:30.053 Now? 0:11:30.093 --> 0:11:32.413 Some of these guys, you know, you do lose a 0:11:32.413 --> 0:11:35.093 bit of pace, although I didn't see their pace was 0:11:35.133 --> 0:11:38.413 down dramatically, did you know? I thought actually start looked 0:11:38.453 --> 0:11:44.093 quite good in that first innings. Who got the next players? Yeah, exactly. 0:11:44.213 --> 0:11:47.213 I thought he looked okay. I mean he's always been 0:11:47.253 --> 0:11:50.333 a player that has offered up a few drives and 0:11:50.373 --> 0:11:53.093 things like that because he's searching for wickets, and you 0:11:53.093 --> 0:11:56.933 couldn't blame him, I don't think from that if there 0:11:56.973 --> 0:11:59.693 was anything, I thought the Aussies just bolder but short 0:12:00.693 --> 0:12:04.293 and the ball was going over the stumps rather than 0:12:04.413 --> 0:12:07.213 clattering into the top of them. But I don't know. 0:12:07.253 --> 0:12:10.533 They've got people like Spencer Johnson, haven't they. There's a 0:12:10.613 --> 0:12:11.653 name that occurs to. 0:12:11.653 --> 0:12:15.133 Me and Boland. Boland's been around. 0:12:14.773 --> 0:12:15.413 For a while. 0:12:16.333 --> 0:12:16.533 Yeah. 0:12:16.653 --> 0:12:20.373 Nissa. Nissa is another one. 0:12:19.933 --> 0:12:23.413 The other player who I don't know what's happened to him. 0:12:23.493 --> 0:12:27.133 And you may know I've been searching Cameron Green. Where's he? 0:12:27.213 --> 0:12:27.813 Is he injured? 0:12:27.893 --> 0:12:29.973 Is he he's injured? Once taken? 0:12:30.813 --> 0:12:33.453 Is he okay? Yeah? Yeah, I mean he to me 0:12:34.933 --> 0:12:37.093 was the next best thing, wasn't he He's going about 0:12:37.133 --> 0:12:40.133 at four and really take control of that. So and 0:12:40.173 --> 0:12:41.893 of course he was a bowler as well. 0:12:41.973 --> 0:12:47.613 So and knowing those ossie players, they'll close their ranks 0:12:47.373 --> 0:12:50.933 as more and more of the media and everything on 0:12:51.013 --> 0:12:54.333 social media comes around, they'll close their ranks and they'll 0:12:54.373 --> 0:12:58.213 circle the wagons and they'll say they'll think that no 0:12:58.293 --> 0:13:01.813 one thinks we're any good, you know, but you know, 0:13:02.573 --> 0:13:05.693 we'll show them. You know, take a deep breath, everybody, 0:13:06.053 --> 0:13:07.093 And I think that'll be. 0:13:07.053 --> 0:13:09.693 The way they take that'll be the way they take it. 0:13:09.853 --> 0:13:12.173 If they had been all out for one hundred in 0:13:12.253 --> 0:13:17.493 that second innings, then it might have been slightly different, 0:13:18.013 --> 0:13:21.413 but they got so running likely yeah it was for 0:13:21.453 --> 0:13:25.853 a while, You're absolutely right, But boy, I mean, it 0:13:25.893 --> 0:13:30.413 wasn't Boomra outstanding. I mean, here's something about that guy. 0:13:30.453 --> 0:13:32.533 The key breakthroughs early on. 0:13:32.533 --> 0:13:36.373 And then India coming out and as I say, having 0:13:36.413 --> 0:13:40.253 that great second innings and then Boomera once again at 0:13:40.253 --> 0:13:42.253 the end of the day, and then boomer as soon 0:13:42.253 --> 0:13:46.133 as head gets going back he comes claims the wicket. 0:13:46.653 --> 0:13:47.853 He was just fantastic. 0:13:47.933 --> 0:13:50.653 And even some of the other guys I mean the 0:13:50.693 --> 0:13:56.133 guy Ready, the guy Rana. They all played their pieces, 0:13:56.133 --> 0:13:59.093 didn't they And even the catching. Look, how could Ozzie 0:13:59.133 --> 0:14:04.933 have fifty extras? How could Ozzie have fifty extras? I 0:14:04.933 --> 0:14:10.093 mean they were out caught that that lovely catch at batpad? 0:14:10.133 --> 0:14:12.733 Did you see that one by the ex keeper that 0:14:12.893 --> 0:14:16.693 Durell up the off of Stark, really good catch at 0:14:16.733 --> 0:14:20.653 short short leg. They were just better and you've got 0:14:20.693 --> 0:14:23.453 to accept that some days, but then do something about it. 0:14:24.013 --> 0:14:26.853 So that's the Aussies have got ten to twelve days, 0:14:27.213 --> 0:14:31.053 so let's and there's four more tests, so let's let's 0:14:31.053 --> 0:14:33.653 not rush, but well done in near third to start 0:14:33.733 --> 0:14:37.093 that series, so emphatically. 0:14:36.733 --> 0:14:40.733 Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot. 0:14:41.213 --> 0:14:43.973 We've got a Test match in christ you'll be ending 0:14:44.053 --> 0:14:47.373 down there shortly. We haven't heard too much from the 0:14:47.373 --> 0:14:51.213 New Zealand camp, but we did hear an interview with 0:14:51.973 --> 0:14:55.333 the coach of the side, Gary Stead. Basically he was 0:14:55.453 --> 0:14:59.133 intimating four seamers. There won't be a front line spinner 0:14:59.133 --> 0:15:03.653 because they didn't pick one, and it seems of course 0:15:04.213 --> 0:15:07.133 that Phillips is going to play, which means there's no 0:15:07.293 --> 0:15:10.813 room or going to be no room for Will Young 0:15:11.093 --> 0:15:13.893 unless they make some other adjustment. Now I find that 0:15:14.053 --> 0:15:18.733 very harsh on Young. Whatever you've got within your side. 0:15:19.293 --> 0:15:22.613 He's a form player. He's just dominated a series against 0:15:22.653 --> 0:15:25.093 one of the best sides in the world and yet 0:15:25.133 --> 0:15:28.453 he could be sitting on the bench carrying the drinks. 0:15:29.013 --> 0:15:31.573 That is going to be tough on somebody like Will Young, 0:15:31.973 --> 0:15:33.933 but he seems to be able to accept it and 0:15:33.933 --> 0:15:34.293 move on. 0:15:34.853 --> 0:15:36.613 Well, he doesn't really have much choice, does he. 0:15:36.653 --> 0:15:43.093 That's his jobs to play when he's selected. Yeah, I 0:15:43.133 --> 0:15:47.333 would have thought to me, as you know from last week, 0:15:47.373 --> 0:15:50.813 I thought Young ought to be it was about his time. 0:15:52.653 --> 0:15:56.573 It was going to be unlucky on whoever was left out, 0:15:56.613 --> 0:15:59.133 and in my case I left Glenn Phillips out. 0:15:59.813 --> 0:16:01.293 But he's done a good job. 0:16:02.973 --> 0:16:07.093 And probably the weakness of my selection of leaving him 0:16:07.133 --> 0:16:10.493 out was you know, so no one's going to get 0:16:10.493 --> 0:16:12.653 the use of his part time off he's although how 0:16:12.733 --> 0:16:18.013 much is that necessary at Hagley that's another question. But 0:16:18.133 --> 0:16:21.613 the use of him at Gully. He's a good gully field, 0:16:21.693 --> 0:16:26.773 isn't he. He takes some terrific catchers there and you know 0:16:26.853 --> 0:16:30.693 the selectors may go that way. But to me, the 0:16:30.773 --> 0:16:33.893 gains of young outweigh the few overs that Phillips may 0:16:33.933 --> 0:16:37.373 bowl and he's unlikely to get turned there. 0:16:37.413 --> 0:16:39.373 He's unlikely to get significant bounce. 0:16:40.053 --> 0:16:42.613 And the fact of it is, personally, I think the 0:16:42.693 --> 0:16:44.693 four seamers are going to be. 0:16:44.653 --> 0:16:46.173 The ones who win you the game. 0:16:47.373 --> 0:16:50.813 With the catching behind the wicket, those are the two 0:16:50.893 --> 0:16:51.893 important parts. 0:16:52.653 --> 0:16:53.653 With Hagley so. 0:16:54.373 --> 0:16:57.053 And then it's going to be a decision on who 0:16:57.093 --> 0:17:00.053 they choose as the fourth seemer, whether it's Nathan Smith 0:17:00.213 --> 0:17:04.573 or whether it's Jacob Duffy. I'm inclined to go for 0:17:04.773 --> 0:17:09.613 a Smith younger man has batting options as well, probably 0:17:09.653 --> 0:17:13.933 a bit of batsman than Duffy, and is a player 0:17:13.933 --> 0:17:17.813 who's had some good level cricket in recent times. He's 0:17:17.893 --> 0:17:19.893 been to Shrilanka of course with the one day side, 0:17:19.893 --> 0:17:22.173 which probably made it tough for him to prepare for 0:17:22.253 --> 0:17:25.773 a Test match. But he played a good role in 0:17:25.813 --> 0:17:28.653 the worcestersh County side during the off season until he 0:17:28.693 --> 0:17:31.573 got injured, so that would be my selection, apart from 0:17:31.573 --> 0:17:32.813 the fact that he plays for Wellington. 0:17:34.413 --> 0:17:39.853 I thought you might mention that in o eenthasies we 0:17:39.893 --> 0:17:42.573 should turn up watch and see a green pitch. I 0:17:42.613 --> 0:17:46.693 think that's how New Zealanders set up. Runs are going 0:17:46.773 --> 0:17:50.173 to be important again, that sort of hints slightly at young. 0:17:51.293 --> 0:17:55.013 England are likely to score faster and if New Zealand 0:17:55.013 --> 0:17:57.693 are good enough, they'll use that extra time that England 0:17:57.733 --> 0:18:00.533 supply them, you know, with the faster run rate and 0:18:00.533 --> 0:18:04.653 that sort of thing. The bowling for England, I'm interested 0:18:04.693 --> 0:18:10.173 to see that they've chosen threes in their squad. That's 0:18:11.053 --> 0:18:14.533 quite interesting from them because I mean, really to have 0:18:15.333 --> 0:18:20.813 three spinners plus Root and Bethel, who's another new Man 0:18:20.893 --> 0:18:24.533 who's a left arm orthodox seems a wee bit excessive, 0:18:24.573 --> 0:18:27.253 doesn't it for New Zealand conditions at this time of year. 0:18:28.893 --> 0:18:32.533 They've got obviously seamers from the fast bowlers. They've got 0:18:32.533 --> 0:18:40.093 Atkinson we know about him, a good bowler, relatively quick, cass, 0:18:40.293 --> 0:18:41.933 strong bowler from up in the north. 0:18:41.973 --> 0:18:44.173 Only had a couple of tests Ollie Stone. 0:18:44.253 --> 0:18:46.773 New Zealand have played against them when they were over 0:18:46.813 --> 0:18:50.093 in England a couple of tours ago and of course Stokes, 0:18:50.973 --> 0:18:54.893 so that seems to be there, you know. Seam bowling 0:18:54.973 --> 0:18:59.533 contingent Dasher seems to be their choice for a spinner, 0:19:00.053 --> 0:19:01.773 although they've got other ones there. 0:19:02.493 --> 0:19:06.773 I wonder who'll drag this attack along once? You know? 0:19:06.933 --> 0:19:10.213 For England, I mean last two of they had Broad 0:19:10.653 --> 0:19:14.573 and Anderson, didn't they and Robinson and they. 0:19:14.453 --> 0:19:15.453 Had Leech as well. 0:19:15.453 --> 0:19:20.533 Who's back again from Spinner and who will do that? 0:19:20.613 --> 0:19:24.893 I mean Cassess has had two tests, Atkinson had's had eight, 0:19:26.013 --> 0:19:30.173 Potts has had nine, and then Wokees has had fifty five. 0:19:31.413 --> 0:19:33.653 Now, the only thing I would say. 0:19:33.493 --> 0:19:38.173 About quotes well exactly. But then you look at his 0:19:38.253 --> 0:19:42.013 record with the kooker Borough ball. Here are the averages 0:19:42.053 --> 0:19:45.413 for you in Australia when he's used the kooker Borough 0:19:45.773 --> 0:19:49.853 he averages fifty one. In New Zealand, he averages fifty 0:19:50.253 --> 0:19:54.293 in Pakistan, fifty five in South Africa. These are all 0:19:54.333 --> 0:19:57.573 places where you use the kooker Borough ball. South Africa 0:19:57.813 --> 0:20:01.413 fifty six and the West Indies forty eight. 0:20:02.093 --> 0:20:04.053 So there's a common kind of scene there. 0:20:04.093 --> 0:20:07.933 He may do well, it may all suddenly change, but 0:20:08.053 --> 0:20:11.413 that's what he's done so far. So it's an interesting 0:20:11.453 --> 0:20:12.293 one though, isn't it. 0:20:12.373 --> 0:20:12.773 You know. 0:20:14.253 --> 0:20:18.893 What will happen on the front foot with Waddle and Cody. 0:20:21.293 --> 0:20:24.253 Earlier this year the seventy three Black Caps reunited to 0:20:24.413 --> 0:20:28.453 celebrate their first ever win over Australia this year. It's 0:20:28.533 --> 0:20:31.573 the first win over England that brings the players together 0:20:31.853 --> 0:20:34.133 at Hagley, although the win was at the base in 0:20:34.213 --> 0:20:38.173 reserve at the time forty eight years forty eight tests 0:20:38.893 --> 0:20:42.053 and Richard Collins played both the Tests, the one against 0:20:42.573 --> 0:20:45.533 Australia and the one against England and he joins on 0:20:45.573 --> 0:20:48.653 the front foot again. Nice to have you back, Rock 0:20:48.733 --> 0:20:52.693 and you'll be in the country to celebrate that win 0:20:52.933 --> 0:20:54.413 with your teammates. 0:20:55.013 --> 0:20:57.853 Yes, Brian, thank you for inviting you to your show. 0:20:58.413 --> 0:21:01.333 Always lovely to have a chat with you. Yes, there's 0:21:01.413 --> 0:21:04.653 eight of us going to be at Hagley Oval for 0:21:05.813 --> 0:21:10.093 the first black Caps English Test, and I think the 0:21:10.093 --> 0:21:14.213 only ones winning are not coming beef of Coln and 0:21:14.293 --> 0:21:17.413 of course who has passed on. Jeff House is living 0:21:17.493 --> 0:21:19.493 in England, probably a bit far for him to come, 0:21:20.693 --> 0:21:24.133 Mark Burgess and John Parker the two middle or the batsman, 0:21:24.693 --> 0:21:26.533 but the rest of us are going to be there. 0:21:26.613 --> 0:21:30.573 So it's really exciting, I think from my point of 0:21:30.653 --> 0:21:35.333 view to catch up twice with teammates in one year. 0:21:35.453 --> 0:21:38.893 So I'm sure we're going to We're going to have 0:21:38.933 --> 0:21:40.333 a good time, you've. 0:21:40.173 --> 0:21:42.773 Been a regular rotender at test matches and at functions 0:21:42.773 --> 0:21:45.093 back here in Gzilla, even though you live in Sydney. 0:21:45.293 --> 0:21:51.133 It's important to you to retain those old relationships that 0:21:51.493 --> 0:21:52.973 you built up over the cricket time. 0:21:53.613 --> 0:21:58.013 Oh. Yes, absolutely, Brian. But I think that I think 0:21:58.053 --> 0:22:02.493 it was Stephen Box said when we had the reunion 0:22:02.573 --> 0:22:06.053 for the seventy four when and he saw us all 0:22:06.093 --> 0:22:08.653 together and we had a night out and the eight 0:22:08.693 --> 0:22:10.773 boys had a night out, and he said, well, look, 0:22:11.253 --> 0:22:15.693 I think with our advancing years, we've got to make 0:22:15.733 --> 0:22:18.733 the best of every opportunity. And every time an opportunity 0:22:18.733 --> 0:22:23.693 arises and we can, we get together. So I think 0:22:23.733 --> 0:22:27.693 that's the sort of pack that the boys have made. 0:22:27.773 --> 0:22:31.293 So no, no, it's very important. And you find that 0:22:31.333 --> 0:22:34.613 you really carry on from where you left off last time, 0:22:34.853 --> 0:22:37.973 such as the friendships that you made. 0:22:38.453 --> 0:22:40.813 Yeah, and they were major victories for New Zealand, the 0:22:40.813 --> 0:22:44.173 first one over Australia and then the first one over England. 0:22:44.613 --> 0:22:47.933 Is one more memorable than the other to you? 0:22:48.093 --> 0:22:48.133 Or? 0:22:48.173 --> 0:22:50.533 Are they both pretty high up there and the list 0:22:50.573 --> 0:22:52.973