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Speaker 3: It's trick, it is out, The Test is over. Goodness

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Speaker 3: Hello, a busy week on the front foot, India. Make

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Speaker 3: a bold statement in Perth. We aren't out of World

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Speaker 3: Test Championship just yet. England wom up and Queenstown for

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Speaker 3: the first Test of the three against the black Caps,

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Speaker 3: and we remember forty six years ago Goodness met another

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Speaker 3: first for our cricketers. First Test went over England after

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Speaker 3: forty eight years and forty eight tests trying nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Joney, you didn't play in that game, but you're

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Speaker 3: going to be there watching just like me.

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Speaker 5: I was once Hello to you at I do remember

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Speaker 5: it was a bitterly cold couple of first days and

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Speaker 5: then I caught There was a rest day I think

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Speaker 5: in that Test match, and then I caught the important

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Speaker 5: and I was there for that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we'll be talking about a little bit

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Speaker 3: later on because a good friend of yours, Rock Collins,

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Speaker 3: just going to join us again. He was part of

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Speaker 3: that Test match. Played a significant goal too, didn't he.

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Speaker 6: Yeah he did.

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Speaker 5: He got important wickets I think three in the first

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Speaker 6: Of course, Boycott.

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Speaker 5: That's quite a sort of an image of New Zealand cricket,

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Speaker 5: isn't it. They had hinted winning games New Zealand and

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Speaker 6: Five years earlier. Finally they got this one at the Basin.

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Speaker 3: Yep, and it was well achieved. There was a bit

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Speaker 3: of puttying after that one as well. We'll get some

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Speaker 3: what an interesting week in Perth, Jeriett. I didn't expect

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Speaker 3: that outcome. I didn't expect New Zealand to beat India

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Speaker 3: India to walop Australia. I mean That is embarrassing, humiliating

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Speaker 5: Margined, massive, Australia flogged really and all the more galling,

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Speaker 5: so they were in a good position and then Boomer

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Speaker 5: you'd say about that Australia took India to purse with

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Speaker 5: early on in the tour they were missing a few players,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Aussies looked pretty insipid with the ball. The

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jess World didn't really show that much against

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Speaker 6: Well they were. I mean, you know, those.

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Speaker 5: People who've followed the game a lot, they will know

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I thought Jaceell gives you a bit of

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Speaker 5: and they must have just they must have just felt humiliated, really,

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Speaker 3: And you talked about that's when Australia looked most at loss.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that bowling and know all that sort

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Speaker 6: You couldn't see that.

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Speaker 5: It's rather tortuous first innings where he just couldn't he

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Speaker 3: Sides have had situations like this. How do you get

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Speaker 3: a humiliation? Australians don't like being beaten, but they don't

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Speaker 5: Oh, they'll hate it and there will be plenty of discussions,

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Speaker 6: That won't happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but Ossie, they won't put up with

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Speaker 5: couple of tests, don't they As a minimum they've got

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Speaker 6: You know, they do have some problems, don't they.

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Speaker 5: Did you see that graphic that came up at one

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Speaker 6: They were four to sixteen.

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Speaker 5: It's starting to become a bit of a pattern and

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Speaker 6: They will say that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, David Waller of course has joined the cheerleaders

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Speaker 3: to go through a rebuilding phase. Well, I've never really

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 6: Now, the only thing I would say.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Brian, thank you for inviting you to your show.

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Speaker 2: Always lovely to have a chat with you. Yes, there's

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Speaker 3: Been a regular rotender at test matches and at functions

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Speaker 2: Oh. Yes, absolutely, Brian. But I think that I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were major victories for New Zealand, the

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Speaker 2: Very high up I think with the Australians their batting

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Speaker 3: My abiding memory of that seventy eight test, because I

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Speaker 2: And then I got couple there wasn't Teff Miller and

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00:25:11,973 --> 00:25:14,773
Speaker 2: Jerry Randle, and then of course I was bowling into

438
00:25:14,933 --> 00:25:18,973
Speaker 2: fairly stiff southerly and then I thought, well, I'm sort

439
00:25:18,973 --> 00:25:22,133
Speaker 2: of in the naked here, so we let the other

440
00:25:22,253 --> 00:25:25,053
Speaker 2: Richard loose from the other end and barrel through them.

441
00:25:25,133 --> 00:25:27,773
Speaker 2: So it was a sort of good combined effort.

442
00:25:27,853 --> 00:25:30,453
Speaker 3: There was a personal milestone too, and that for you.

443
00:25:30,573 --> 00:25:34,053
Speaker 3: I know that crickets don't necessarily live on personal milestones,

444
00:25:34,093 --> 00:25:36,333
Speaker 3: But it was the Test match where you took your

445
00:25:36,453 --> 00:25:39,853
Speaker 3: hundredth Test wicket, which was an achievement because we didn't

446
00:25:39,893 --> 00:25:42,533
Speaker 3: have too many players with one hundred Test wickets in

447
00:25:42,573 --> 00:25:43,453
Speaker 3: those days, did we?

448
00:25:44,213 --> 00:25:46,573
Speaker 2: No, No, there was. I think Dick Montz was the

449
00:25:46,573 --> 00:25:49,813
Speaker 2: first one and he ended with one hundred, and then

450
00:25:49,853 --> 00:25:53,533
Speaker 2: Bruce Taylor went to one hundred and eleven, and then

451
00:25:55,013 --> 00:25:57,173
Speaker 2: I went to one hundred and sixteen I think it was,

452
00:25:57,253 --> 00:26:02,213
Speaker 2: and then Richard Hadley went to zoolans fanfuls of us all,

453
00:26:02,253 --> 00:26:02,573
Speaker 2: didn't he?

454
00:26:04,413 --> 00:26:07,253
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, is there really one point in that Test

455
00:26:07,293 --> 00:26:10,533
Speaker 3: match where you had it one? And I know you

456
00:26:10,573 --> 00:26:14,173
Speaker 3: know that the ebb and flow of that game was

457
00:26:14,173 --> 00:26:16,733
Speaker 3: such there wasn't a lot of runs scored. Was there

458
00:26:16,773 --> 00:26:18,973
Speaker 3: any one point that you could sit back and say, oh,

459
00:26:19,013 --> 00:26:20,133
Speaker 3: we've finally got them.

460
00:26:20,653 --> 00:26:23,653
Speaker 2: Ian Botham was the one man that can because he'd

461
00:26:23,693 --> 00:26:26,573
Speaker 2: got to He ended up getting one hundred and close

462
00:26:26,653 --> 00:26:30,853
Speaker 2: to it. He could really turn a game and we

463
00:26:31,773 --> 00:26:34,773
Speaker 2: and when he was run out, I thought, well, I

464
00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:38,093
Speaker 2: think we might really be able to knock these guys

465
00:26:38,133 --> 00:26:41,293
Speaker 2: over now, and that's what happened.

466
00:26:41,613 --> 00:26:43,973
Speaker 3: There was a controversial Test to some extent. It was

467
00:26:43,973 --> 00:26:47,893
Speaker 3: a controversial series for a couple of reasons. One of

468
00:26:47,893 --> 00:26:52,093
Speaker 3: the controversies, and it's lived on, was the non dismissal

469
00:26:52,093 --> 00:26:54,573
Speaker 3: of John Wright in the first over. Do you remember

470
00:26:54,653 --> 00:26:58,133
Speaker 3: that where he supposedly nick one behind, was given not

471
00:26:58,213 --> 00:27:01,533
Speaker 3: out and then beat it all day for fifty five Yes.

472
00:27:02,253 --> 00:27:06,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, he a bit of a smile on his face

473
00:27:06,413 --> 00:27:10,213
Speaker 2: about that one. I think it was one of the

474
00:27:10,253 --> 00:27:13,213
Speaker 2: early balls and the test wasn't it. It's not the

475
00:27:13,253 --> 00:27:14,613
Speaker 2: first I can't remember now.

476
00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:17,973
Speaker 3: I think he likes talking about it now but doesn't

477
00:27:18,013 --> 00:27:18,933
Speaker 3: concede too much.

478
00:27:20,053 --> 00:27:23,933
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he doesn't give too much away. But well,

479
00:27:24,133 --> 00:27:26,213
Speaker 2: let's say we had our suspicions.

480
00:27:26,613 --> 00:27:28,413
Speaker 3: On his last trip to New Zealand. I didn't want

481
00:27:28,413 --> 00:27:31,533
Speaker 3: to miss the chance to ask boys about the nineteen

482
00:27:31,573 --> 00:27:34,493
Speaker 3: seventy eight tiest and the non dismissal of John Right.

483
00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:36,493
Speaker 3: And he was quite generous.

484
00:27:36,973 --> 00:27:40,053
Speaker 4: The pitch was different, It was facing a different way.

485
00:27:40,773 --> 00:27:44,253
Speaker 4: The wind came straight down that ginnel. Yeah, one of

486
00:27:44,293 --> 00:27:48,293
Speaker 4: your really forceful wins. Be wore terrible bawling into it.

487
00:27:48,773 --> 00:27:51,493
Speaker 4: We had a poor pitch, I'll put you in. It

488
00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:56,133
Speaker 4: was damp, it was poor, and I'll always remember a

489
00:27:56,173 --> 00:27:57,933
Speaker 4: good friend of mine, I helpe you're listening in all

490
00:27:57,973 --> 00:28:02,533
Speaker 4: your naughty boy John Ray first no, first ball, well,

491
00:28:02,573 --> 00:28:05,733
Speaker 4: first love, the first ball at the first over of

492
00:28:05,773 --> 00:28:09,533
Speaker 4: the day in his first Test match, blatant a glove

493
00:28:09,613 --> 00:28:12,773
Speaker 4: to the keeper you've ever seen in your life. And

494
00:28:12,853 --> 00:28:15,333
Speaker 4: if the umpire is still alive today or gave him

495
00:28:15,373 --> 00:28:16,733
Speaker 4: not out, he should be a shame.

496
00:28:17,533 --> 00:28:20,253
Speaker 7: And he went and got fifty yard and he the

497
00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:21,813
Speaker 7: tests better all day.

498
00:28:21,813 --> 00:28:24,693
Speaker 4: It was a difficult pitch I've had a long time

499
00:28:24,733 --> 00:28:27,693
Speaker 4: for my seventy seven was it for England in the

500
00:28:27,733 --> 00:28:31,773
Speaker 4: first he was very difficult. And I'm telling you I

501
00:28:31,853 --> 00:28:34,453
Speaker 4: saw him because I know him well. He played at Derbyshire.

502
00:28:34,693 --> 00:28:37,573
Speaker 4: To come and ask me about Batten years later. It

503
00:28:37,733 --> 00:28:39,573
Speaker 4: was about a few years ago when he was in

504
00:28:39,573 --> 00:28:43,293
Speaker 4: India as the coach there, and we sat in one

505
00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:47,173
Speaker 4: of the lounges and seen him many times since, and

506
00:28:47,213 --> 00:28:48,853
Speaker 4: he admitted he said definitely different.

507
00:28:49,133 --> 00:28:51,053
Speaker 7: Of course I loved it, but he said it was

508
00:28:51,093 --> 00:28:54,653
Speaker 7: my first Test match. I couldn't I couldn't go, I said,

509
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,373
Speaker 7: you bastard. I said, you won the Test match for

510
00:28:57,493 --> 00:28:59,813
Speaker 7: him all that time fifty five he said.

511
00:28:59,813 --> 00:29:02,093
Speaker 4: But he couldn't expect me to go in my first

512
00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:05,813
Speaker 4: Test match, and yeah he was and he got he

513
00:29:05,853 --> 00:29:07,973
Speaker 4: got My wife drug that night and all and read

514
00:29:08,013 --> 00:29:11,293
Speaker 4: wine against you absolutely puddled and she never is to see.

515
00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:12,973
Speaker 3: The thing is, would you have done exactly the same

516
00:29:13,013 --> 00:29:15,053
Speaker 3: if you'd been given not out on first his match?

517
00:29:15,213 --> 00:29:18,133
Speaker 7: No, I always went when the umpire put.

518
00:29:17,933 --> 00:29:21,293
Speaker 3: His fingers, he didn't put his finger out. You'll also

519
00:29:21,373 --> 00:29:26,213
Speaker 3: remember Richard Collins Rock. I seen him, yeah, and he

520
00:29:26,293 --> 00:29:28,293
Speaker 3: was a good bowler. He was a good bowler because

521
00:29:28,293 --> 00:29:30,093
Speaker 3: he was just the perfect delivery to get you on

522
00:29:30,093 --> 00:29:30,813
Speaker 3: the other cage, wasn't it.

523
00:29:30,933 --> 00:29:33,013
Speaker 4: Yeah it was a good ball. He the second in

524
00:29:33,253 --> 00:29:36,893
Speaker 4: is he he nearly yorked me. He kind of bowled

525
00:29:36,973 --> 00:29:39,453
Speaker 4: into my pads and he cannoned off my pads onto.

526
00:29:39,253 --> 00:29:41,533
Speaker 7: The stump, so I was out bowled. But he was

527
00:29:41,573 --> 00:29:42,133
Speaker 7: a good bowler.

528
00:29:42,173 --> 00:29:45,933
Speaker 4: I played against him in England as well, and I mean,

529
00:29:45,973 --> 00:29:49,093
Speaker 4: even without the greatness of Richard Hadley, he was a

530
00:29:49,133 --> 00:29:53,613
Speaker 4: good bowler because he was tall. He was hefty, strong, strong,

531
00:29:53,973 --> 00:29:57,213
Speaker 4: bowl fairly lively pace. He wasn't medium pace, he was

532
00:29:57,293 --> 00:29:59,853
Speaker 4: quite sharp. But I mean your two left armies you've

533
00:29:59,853 --> 00:30:01,933
Speaker 4: got now, I mean Richard Dwarfs then.

534
00:30:01,973 --> 00:30:06,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was a good bowler.

535
00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:09,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you had a good side because he

536
00:30:10,493 --> 00:30:12,053
Speaker 4: we had a poor batt inside.

537
00:30:12,093 --> 00:30:15,053
Speaker 7: I took over as captain. Of course it wasn't my side.

538
00:30:15,093 --> 00:30:19,413
Speaker 4: He was really really broke his arm in the in

539
00:30:19,453 --> 00:30:24,493
Speaker 4: a practice match in Pakistan Seecanda bat he jumped over

540
00:30:24,493 --> 00:30:25,773
Speaker 4: a length hit him on the arm.

541
00:30:25,813 --> 00:30:26,573
Speaker 7: He had to go home.

542
00:30:26,613 --> 00:30:29,253
Speaker 4: He missed the last Test in Karachi, had to take

543
00:30:29,293 --> 00:30:32,533
Speaker 4: over for and then we came here for three Test matches.

544
00:30:32,573 --> 00:30:36,213
Speaker 4: And I always say that our bowling was good. We

545
00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:39,173
Speaker 4: had both of them. We had Bob Willis who was

546
00:30:39,213 --> 00:30:42,253
Speaker 4: a good bowler. We had Chris old or Mike Hendrick.

547
00:30:42,573 --> 00:30:46,413
Speaker 4: We had Phillip Edmonds who was a good bowler. Truculent, difficult, awkward,

548
00:30:46,493 --> 00:30:50,133
Speaker 4: so and so, but he was a good bowler. It's

549
00:30:50,213 --> 00:30:53,533
Speaker 4: our batting. We had a young kid gatting then. He

550
00:30:53,653 --> 00:30:56,373
Speaker 4: was only about seventeen eighteen. They used to bring one

551
00:30:56,373 --> 00:30:58,213
Speaker 4: on tour and other thought would be good and if

552
00:30:58,213 --> 00:30:59,973
Speaker 4: and heshed up being good playing Test crickey.

553
00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:02,893
Speaker 7: But he was a young kid. I think we had

554
00:31:03,293 --> 00:31:05,013
Speaker 7: Randall yeah, because.

555
00:31:04,733 --> 00:31:09,533
Speaker 4: Chatfield rope sadly he died a couple of years ago, but.

556
00:31:09,773 --> 00:31:12,453
Speaker 3: Brian rosebro wasn't here.

557
00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:17,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, and rule wasn't it wasn't strong about the shorts stuff,

558
00:31:18,173 --> 00:31:20,173
Speaker 4: and so we were we were a bit wobbling.

559
00:31:20,413 --> 00:31:22,013
Speaker 3: He had a fairly good young player and a guy

560
00:31:22,053 --> 00:31:22,853
Speaker 3: called both of them.

561
00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:24,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was an all around I said, he's

562
00:31:24,973 --> 00:31:27,973
Speaker 4: a wonderful bowler. But our butting was that he got

563
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:33,413
Speaker 4: a hundred did and then christ the next the testing crisis,

564
00:31:33,493 --> 00:31:34,133
Speaker 4: which we won.

565
00:31:34,533 --> 00:31:38,413
Speaker 7: But we really we really were like.

566
00:31:38,493 --> 00:31:41,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you probably have to accept

567
00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:43,893
Speaker 3: the fact that somebody getting you out on the base

568
00:31:44,093 --> 00:31:50,733
Speaker 3: reserve here for normally is not one I'm sorry, I

569
00:31:50,773 --> 00:31:53,053
Speaker 3: actually got off the mark. It was one of the

570
00:31:53,053 --> 00:31:55,493
Speaker 3: biggest moments here at the base Reserve. You have to

571
00:31:55,533 --> 00:31:59,173
Speaker 3: realize that for ten years after that was replayed it

572
00:31:59,253 --> 00:32:02,413
Speaker 3: was cricket over and over again because it was it

573
00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:04,173
Speaker 3: was a It was a big moment for us here

574
00:32:04,173 --> 00:32:07,213
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. The great Jeffrey Boycott was out bowled

575
00:32:07,213 --> 00:32:08,293
Speaker 3: by Collins and we won the tea.

576
00:32:08,773 --> 00:32:12,373
Speaker 4: Well, yes, I think if I'd have made runs we

577
00:32:12,373 --> 00:32:13,253
Speaker 4: would have had a chance.

578
00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:15,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was only one hundred and thirty seven.

579
00:32:15,053 --> 00:32:15,573
Speaker 7: You were chosing.

580
00:32:15,893 --> 00:32:20,733
Speaker 4: I mean, I said afterwards at the conference with the media. Look,

581
00:32:21,813 --> 00:32:25,053
Speaker 4: if I had to do anything again, even without John

582
00:32:25,173 --> 00:32:28,853
Speaker 4: staying there, you know when he loved it for nought

583
00:32:28,933 --> 00:32:31,253
Speaker 4: and then went on and made fifty. If you had

584
00:32:31,253 --> 00:32:34,413
Speaker 4: to make one hundred and thirty in the fourth innings

585
00:32:34,413 --> 00:32:37,493
Speaker 4: of a test, I mean nine times out of ten,

586
00:32:37,533 --> 00:32:38,573
Speaker 4: you'd take that, wouldn't you.

587
00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:40,333
Speaker 7: I mean, you know you should get that.

588
00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:44,213
Speaker 4: Maybe you'd be five down, six down, but you'd think, hallo,

589
00:32:44,453 --> 00:32:47,293
Speaker 4: one of us get fifty. And then you scratch around

590
00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:49,733
Speaker 4: each for ten years and ten there and a few

591
00:32:49,813 --> 00:32:53,613
Speaker 4: buys and leg bye, you'd get over somehow. But they

592
00:32:53,653 --> 00:32:57,053
Speaker 4: weren't very good batting. And Richard was a great bowler.

593
00:32:57,293 --> 00:32:59,573
Speaker 4: Richard Hardley was a truly great bowler.

594
00:32:59,893 --> 00:33:03,133
Speaker 3: Had any year I remember at the base reserve he

595
00:33:03,173 --> 00:33:06,733
Speaker 3: had a confrontation with Wis Armstrong, who was the groundsman,

596
00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:10,453
Speaker 3: and he went down to the ground shed and tried

597
00:33:10,493 --> 00:33:14,413
Speaker 3: to create a discussion with were's who who promptly picked

598
00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:17,853
Speaker 3: up a pitchfork and prodded it at him to push

599
00:33:17,973 --> 00:33:20,373
Speaker 3: him out of the groundsman shed so that he didn't

600
00:33:20,533 --> 00:33:23,173
Speaker 3: get a chance to complain about the pitch. But Jeffrey

601
00:33:23,293 --> 00:33:24,213
Speaker 3: was like that, wasn't he?

602
00:33:25,053 --> 00:33:28,853
Speaker 2: Yes, he certainly was the Only time that I used

603
00:33:28,853 --> 00:33:33,213
Speaker 2: to visit Where's's rooms was after an earnings that Wellington

604
00:33:33,733 --> 00:33:37,173
Speaker 2: had come off the field and Tails himself would wander

605
00:33:37,253 --> 00:33:41,053
Speaker 2: down and have a couple of cansworth Where's and that

606
00:33:41,213 --> 00:33:45,453
Speaker 2: was just a ritual that I didn't I actually hadn't

607
00:33:45,453 --> 00:33:48,533
Speaker 2: heard that one of Jeffrey going down to the rooms there.

608
00:33:48,933 --> 00:33:50,693
Speaker 3: I was lucky because I saw it, because that was

609
00:33:50,733 --> 00:33:52,653
Speaker 3: part of my job. I had to pick up all

610
00:33:52,693 --> 00:33:55,173
Speaker 3: the news stories at the time. But of course there

611
00:33:55,173 --> 00:33:59,173
Speaker 3: was a news story too in christ Hitch when well

612
00:33:59,213 --> 00:34:01,493
Speaker 3: He happened to be run out by one of his

613
00:34:01,573 --> 00:34:02,573
Speaker 3: own players.

614
00:34:03,173 --> 00:34:06,813
Speaker 2: I don't think we can use the language that was

615
00:34:06,893 --> 00:34:11,253
Speaker 2: used when when he came into the crease. But it

616
00:34:11,413 --> 00:34:13,893
Speaker 2: was the last session of the fourth day and really

617
00:34:13,933 --> 00:34:16,773
Speaker 2: England had us on toast and all they really needed

618
00:34:16,813 --> 00:34:20,573
Speaker 2: to do was score quickly in the last session, then

619
00:34:20,613 --> 00:34:25,013
Speaker 2: to clear overnight and whole data balls out. Well jeff

620
00:34:25,213 --> 00:34:30,333
Speaker 2: was sort of blocking around and seemed to be going

621
00:34:30,373 --> 00:34:34,493
Speaker 2: for a not out and they sent I and both

622
00:34:34,533 --> 00:34:37,493
Speaker 2: of them in early and he just said I'm going

623
00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:41,413
Speaker 2: to run him out with a few explicives and got

624
00:34:41,493 --> 00:34:43,853
Speaker 2: to the strikers ended one like a rocket to Mark

625
00:34:43,933 --> 00:34:48,133
Speaker 2: Burgess and the covers took off and Geoff of course

626
00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:51,653
Speaker 2: had backed up maybe a meter or so and he

627
00:34:51,733 --> 00:34:53,733
Speaker 2: and beat him to the bowls end and he's run

628
00:34:53,773 --> 00:34:57,853
Speaker 2: out at the at the striker's end, and so he

629
00:34:57,933 --> 00:35:02,493
Speaker 2: achieved his objective. As it was, but as it was

630
00:35:02,933 --> 00:35:07,293
Speaker 2: one of the memories I had from the christ There.

631
00:35:07,213 --> 00:35:09,973
Speaker 3: Was also the runout of at Randall two. Wasn't there

632
00:35:10,293 --> 00:35:14,613
Speaker 3: by Chet because he was backing up a man cat.

633
00:35:14,573 --> 00:35:18,093
Speaker 2: That's right, it was, But there were a couple of

634
00:35:18,133 --> 00:35:22,933
Speaker 2: warnings given and Derek just kept, you know, he was

635
00:35:22,573 --> 00:35:26,333
Speaker 2: he was a third way down the track. They were

636
00:35:26,453 --> 00:35:30,213
Speaker 2: certain game for quick runs, but Derek didn't get many

637
00:35:30,253 --> 00:35:31,693
Speaker 2: because he was on his bike.

638
00:35:32,533 --> 00:35:35,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were captained by well there was. There was

639
00:35:35,453 --> 00:35:39,453
Speaker 3: Mark Burgess and Bevin Congdon were the basic leaders in

640
00:35:39,493 --> 00:35:43,333
Speaker 3: the team. Congo sadly has passed on. Mark Burgess won't

641
00:35:43,373 --> 00:35:47,533
Speaker 3: be there. But he was a significant part of the

642
00:35:47,573 --> 00:35:50,693
Speaker 3: batting lineup of any side New Zealand carried onto the

643
00:35:50,693 --> 00:35:51,853
Speaker 3: park in those days, wasn't he?

644
00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:57,653
Speaker 2: It certainly was, And it's you know, shad that birds

645
00:35:57,693 --> 00:36:01,533
Speaker 2: can't make it. It was always good to chat. You

646
00:36:01,773 --> 00:36:05,933
Speaker 2: have a chat with him, and I believe John Parker

647
00:36:06,013 --> 00:36:08,933
Speaker 2: is the one that he's another one that aren't make it.

648
00:36:09,253 --> 00:36:13,573
Speaker 2: It's pretty that he couldn't. But anyway, there's eight of us.

649
00:36:15,413 --> 00:36:20,133
Speaker 2: But Mark certainly was made a very good hundred of

650
00:36:20,213 --> 00:36:25,293
Speaker 2: lords in the seventy three tests. In fact, there are

651
00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:28,613
Speaker 2: three of them from what I can recall, Congo who

652
00:36:28,653 --> 00:36:30,973
Speaker 2: made his one hundred and seventy odd, me, Big Balad

653
00:36:31,973 --> 00:36:36,373
Speaker 2: and Mark. So it was excellent to watch from the

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Speaker 2: balcony from our dressing room.

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Speaker 3: You've been following the New zeal team even though you've

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Speaker 3: been living across the Testament. You followed them pretty closely.

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Speaker 3: What do you make it wrong?

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Speaker 2: The reffort in India was exceptional. You know, look, look,

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Speaker 2: no team has ever beaten India three zibo in the

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Speaker 2: Test series and really they they really played superbly in

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Speaker 2: all aspects. And with India coming over to Australia, I

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Speaker 2: was sort of saying to my Australian friends that are

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Speaker 2: you know this rebel? Well it won't be too much

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Speaker 2: problem to you guys. You can knock him over. And

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Speaker 2: when they got knocked over for one hundred and fifty,

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, jeeves, you know I picked it.

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Speaker 3: What the Australian side and the reason behind it.

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Speaker 2: All, they'd have to have a look at their batting.

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Speaker 2: A bit with McSweeney didn't really work because they may

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Speaker 2: have to give him another go and Larva Shane looked

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Speaker 2: completely out of touch and didn't really seem to know

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Speaker 2: what his footworks would be or where he stumps were,

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Speaker 2: and so they might have to make a few changes

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Speaker 2: for the second test. But in saying that, I haven't

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Speaker 2: really I haven't really read much about it now.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing is, of course they always like to

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Speaker 3: get during sides on the Gama pitch first up, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: Well now they've got sides and they're using the bouncy

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Speaker 3: pacey pitch in Western Australia and it's backfired on them,

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Speaker 3: isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Well it has But but then how superbly to the

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Speaker 2: Indian quick spowl. You know this this boomra fello je

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Speaker 2: because it goes to another level and he's just he's

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Speaker 2: just particularly line and length, isn't He's at you all

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Speaker 2: the time. And I was very impressed with them. And

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Speaker 2: they've got this Mohamed Sami to come back as well,

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Speaker 2: and they've got a couple of injured batsmen to come

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Speaker 2: back in So I think India are going to get

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Speaker 2: stronger in Australia, probably at the crossroads, because you've got

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Speaker 2: to remember that a few of them, well most of

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Speaker 2: them are in their thirties, some in their mid to

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Speaker 2: late thirties, so it's time for them to start rebuilding

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Speaker 2: and bringing some young ones in. So that's something they'll

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Speaker 2: have to think seriously about.

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Speaker 3: Well, it'll be interesting to see how that here he

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Speaker 3: pins out, because of course the World Test Championship Final

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Speaker 3: is on offer. In that game, Rock, I'll let you

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Speaker 3: get away and rest up because you've got a fairy

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Speaker 3: torrid weekend coming up with your old mates and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you'll make the most of it.

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Speaker 2: We will, and we'll look after Jerry for you.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, Jerry, Rock's going to look after you in

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Speaker 3: christ Hitch, which will be really good. He'll keep you

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Speaker 3: on the straight and narrow, as he's always done in

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Speaker 3: the past.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I know, what Rock's looking after means,

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Speaker 5: and that's not a healthy sign at all for me.

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Speaker 5: The next day, I'll tell you you can't keep up

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Speaker 5: with him. I tell you it's not easy at all.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 6: It was good hearing him. He sounds pretty good. Actually,

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Speaker 6: my word he had. He had to bowl a few

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Speaker 6: overs in that game, thank heavens. He was a bit younger,

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 5: And that's sick and innings wads when New Zealand had

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Speaker 5: to defend about one hundred and thirty five or something

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Speaker 5: like that, and Rocket kept on running in from he

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Speaker 5: was bowling into the breeze coming from the city end

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Speaker 5: the ra of Van stand In and because because Richard

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Speaker 5: Hadley was bowling down the breeze and there were only

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Speaker 5: twenty seven overs in that last innings of England and

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Speaker 5: Rocket and Richard Hadley bowled thirteen each.

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Speaker 6: That's not a bad spell, is it. Really?

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Speaker 5: It was broken I think by just the morning they

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Speaker 5: didn't they bowled in the last morning, didn't on the

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Speaker 5: fifth day, but there was a lot of bowling in

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Speaker 5: that last last part of the day on day four,

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Speaker 5: so I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 6: He was knackered.

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Speaker 3: Head come out over.

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Speaker 6: So that's right, that's right, that's quite right. Well and yeah,

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Speaker 6: well you keep.

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Speaker 3: Him on the straight narrow, wander down here, enjoy quoting

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Speaker 3: and we'll review the check next week.

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Speaker 6: JJ. Yeah good, that'd be great fun, all right, once take.

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