1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Hey, podcast listeners, it's John a been a Meghan here 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: right now, a special podcast, a brand new podcast. You're 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: about to hear the first episode on our podcast feed 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: and I could man spin it. I could tell you 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: more about it, but I'm not going. 6 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: To because he doesn't know enough about it. Exactly right. 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: We've got the start of the podcast, you know, from 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Meddi and PJ in the afternoons on the Hits, it's 9 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: pe J harding. 10 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 3: How you doing? 11 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 4: Heye, thank you guys. Well I think you could come 12 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 4: on Ben, give it your bescuy, Like, what do you 13 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 4: think the podcast is about. 14 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: It's about it down, It's about slowing it down. 15 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: It's about you know, life is busy, Peach. It's hard, 16 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, and it's nice to take a moment for 17 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: yourself and to appreciate the things because it's moving fast 18 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't you don't know the good old 19 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: days until they're gone. I think Cash is saying about 20 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: that with Macklamore. 21 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 5: You absolutely not, No, that's exactly it. 22 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: I'm doing this probably from a selfish perspect of I 23 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: feel like life has been particularly busy this year, and 24 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: I don't want to be that person who always gives 25 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: the copper answer of being busy. So it's literally dedicating 26 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: just under an hour every week. 27 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Talking to people on how they slow it down. 28 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: I find peace the chaos and the magic moments from 29 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 4: the mundane and basically reconnecting with what it means to 30 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: be human, which, like it all sounds where she was 31 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: she talked, But I think more than even we need 32 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: this kind of chat. People thrust out life as hers 33 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: and I just want to have like a little bit 34 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: of a zen kind of retreat vibe for Sunday. 35 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: Oh God, that's a great idea for them, and so 36 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: people can listen to it right now, right in our 37 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: first episode, and then of course you can subscribe to 38 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Slow It Down with PJ Harding on iHeartRadio, where you 39 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Episodes out every Sunday, Peach. 40 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: That's every Sunday. 41 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 5: With the Heads podcast Network. 42 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Slow It Down. I'm your host, 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: PJ Harding, and I've started this podcast because, well, pretty selfishly, really, 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: I feel like life is so busy, even though I 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: live literally in the middle of nowhere, off. 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: Grid, surrounded by bosh. 47 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: You'd think that you could just quiet in the noise, 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: but I still feel stressed. I still feel overwhelmed. I 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: still feel that pressure of keeping up with what everyone 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: else is doing. And I want to carve out some 51 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: time every week to sit down and have really conscious 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: conversations with people who are also living busy lives. And 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: I want to pick their brains and work out how 54 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: they find peace and the chaos and what. 55 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Rituals they do to stay sane. It's that simple. 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: Every week I'll have a new guest and hopefully we 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: can be inspired together. I don't want this to be 58 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: a judgmental zone. I want it to be a placed 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: you can chill out and listen to over the weekend. 60 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: And I am so excited to introduce my first guest 61 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: on the show, Zoe Marshall. We actually briefly work together 62 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: back in the day when she was working on ZDM 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: and Auckland. She worked on a show there for a while, 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: and then we've sort of just kept in touch over 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: the years, and she's gone. 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: On to create some amazing podcasts. 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: She created The Deep and then started a subscription called 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: The Deeper, and the conversations that she has had on 69 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: that podcast have been pretty heavy. She's talked to people 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: will parents that have been given a terminal diagnosis. She's 71 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: talked to istics, conscious sex workers, the list goes on. 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: She's not afraid to tackle a taboo topic, and more recently, 73 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: she's gone on to create a new platform called Rise, 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: which helps people create the life they deserve. And it's 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: all about manifestation, but as it's manifestation a bit better, 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: and she talks about her through so much more to 77 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: it than just at being woo. There's a lot of 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: science to back up some of this stuff. So I 79 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: can't wait to pick her brain this episode. And I 80 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: really hope you enjoying my chat with Sally. Oh sorry, 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: I've been so excited to catch up with you. 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: It has been a while. I think the last time 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: we talked, i'd just. 84 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: Given birth and I went through like a step by 85 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: step harrowing encounter of what happens. 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you were there was a little bit of PTSD. 87 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So it's really nice to see your beautiful 88 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: face again and you howl'd the baby he's just gone. 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 5: To Wow, two years since I spoke to you, it's crazy. Yeah, 90 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 5: you were living in the bush. 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: I am kind pretty much. 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, though I work in the nearest town now, 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: so I actually do a radio show out of the 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: local rural tarmag is a twenty. 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: Minute drive look at you all set up? 96 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: First of all, I'll run through what slow It Down 97 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: is and kind of the premise of this podcast and 98 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: why I thought you'd be a perfect fat So basically, 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: I think since to the middle of nowhere, you know, 100 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: I had this expectation that life becomes slow and relaxed 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: and I'd be grounded. And the reality is, I'm still stressed. 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: Life still feels chaotic, and I have a beautiful life, 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: but it's so easy to not appreciate everything beautiful in 104 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: front of you. So I want to talk about tips 105 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: and tricks and ways to really feel like you can 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: make the most of the golden years. 107 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 5: Oh my god, are we in the golden years? 108 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: I know? I know for sure. 109 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 5: I feel like this is so aligned with where I 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: am at because I am very literally in a metamorphosis 111 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: of wanting to have the experiences and wisdom of like 112 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 5: being an elder on a rocking chair, you know, yep, 113 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 5: but like doing all of that now, like the pace, 114 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: the presence, the appreciation now. So I am I'm just 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: I want to get rid of everything. I want to 116 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: get rid of like a lot of my belongings. I 117 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: want to downsize everything in my life. I want to 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 5: just have my needs met and then be able to. 119 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: Do less. 120 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: And I am like it already is happening. And I 121 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: think it all started with like I had a quite 122 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: quite a scary breast scare in June, and that just 123 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: shifts everything. And it's such a shame that human beings 124 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 5: need such a dire situation to wake them up, but 125 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 5: I did. And I just got back from two and 126 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 5: a half weeks in Europe and Dubai and literally just 127 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 5: sitting in the sun eating bread and butter and olive oil. 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 5: I was like, this is living. Obviously, it's very different circumstances, 129 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 5: but what if we could bring that level. I like 130 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: to call it like the magic in the mundane, like 131 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: finding the miracles. 132 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Stop it there. 133 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: It's literally like one of my objectives, well objectives of 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: this podcast is finding magic in the mundane, or like 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: finding meaning in the mundane, right. 136 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I find like being in awe of everything 137 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: around us. So I think we have just been really 138 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 5: stripped of so much importance because of you know, how 139 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 5: distracted we are, how we've got these kind of really 140 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: quick dopamine hits all the time. We're not able to 141 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 5: focus in and slow down and appreciate the things that 142 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: we have. I created a whole new business. I got 143 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 5: rid of slowed down one side of my business and 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 5: started a new one which is all around this and 145 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 5: it's around manifestation, co creation mindset. But truly, like it 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 5: sounds like a riddle, but everything that we want, if 147 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: you are living as if you already have that thing, 148 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 5: and you're already feeling the way it would feel to 149 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: have the thing, then you already have the feeling you 150 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: would have it even if you got it. So it's 151 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: kind of like once you get all the stuff right, 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 5: Like I went really hard in my career and I 153 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: got the accolades, and I got the fancy car, and 154 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 5: I got the fancy house, and I got the fancy things, 155 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 5: and then you're like, oh fuck, I didn't need any 156 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: of the fancy things, any of them. Yes, right, but 157 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 5: now shut down all those businesses. Start something that feels 158 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 5: like in true service, which will also keep me accountable 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 5: every single day and just be able to meet life 160 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 5: where it's at and be able to practice in real time. 161 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: It's it's okay, to become heady about all of this 162 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: and get into the education and do the YouTube and 163 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: be in the tutorials and join the courses. But unless 164 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: you're in complete chaotic insanity and you don't start to 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 5: bring the stuff in, there's no point. Like you're just 166 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: on the kind of little rat wheel. What do you 167 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 5: call it? 168 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, thats the rat race. 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: That's also another reason why I wanted to do this, 170 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: because I've bought so many self help books of my life, 171 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: and I know all the shit to do, but just 172 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: sometimes implementing it is kind of hard. And you're right, 173 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: it's so sad that we have to have like these 174 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: life awakening moments, you know, whether it's a family member 175 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: getting really unwell. 176 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: Or you lose your house or whatever. 177 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: When people are really stared with what reality is, that's 178 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: when they're like, oh, fuck, I don't have long to 179 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: live and I mean to live and. 180 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: I can't waste another second. 181 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: And like what am I doing? 182 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 183 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 5: And how am I eating? And how am I moving? 184 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: And how am I turning up for my family? And 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 5: how am I working? And like like we are just 186 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: in this autopilot of life happening to us, and no 187 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 5: one actually stops until you're forced to stop, which is 188 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: a health scare or a death or like a crumbling 189 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 5: and you're like, oh my god, I have to change. 190 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: I can't smoke anymore, I can't drink like I like 191 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 5: all of the things. But really, I guess what I'm 192 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: trying to teach my community at a RISE is like, 193 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 5: we don't need to get to breaking point to change, Like, 194 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: we can bring in really incredible mini habits to change 195 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: your life, and it will change your life and you 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 5: can have these realizations now and not at seventy, you know, 197 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: on the rocking chair. I feel like I'm very aligned 198 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 5: with your podcast. 199 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: Well, I was looking at some of your videos on 200 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: the Rise page today and there was that caught my eye, 201 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: and it was so funny because this woman was talking 202 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: to you about the importance of starting your day with 203 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: something positive and how that will set you up for 204 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: a more positive experience. 205 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Not necessarily bring you more. 206 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: Positivity, but you'll be more aware of the positive things 207 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: that happened to you. So I watched that video and 208 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: then that second I've got it into practice, right, And 209 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, okay, you're right, because wake up 210 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: in like a stressed mode, right, and I know I 211 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: should be more mindful. 212 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna say the mantra, 213 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: what if everything. 214 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: Just wiked out? What if everything just wicks out? What 215 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: if everything just wixs at? And I keep saying that 216 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: and then no shits away. I walk outside the house 217 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: and there was this rainbow just going over our house, 218 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: like it was the perfect rainbow. 219 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: And I was like, I got a chill zoeing that, 220 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: and then it just stayed. 221 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: There for our ages and I was like, okay, well, 222 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: that in itself is just one of those moments. 223 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 5: And so there is science behind this, because my program 224 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 5: is backed by neuroscience. There's science behind starting your day 225 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: with a declaration, an affirmation, a positive headspace like it. 226 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: It it's not just wore woolshit, No. 227 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: It like impacts your RAS system. Your RA system is 228 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 5: your rearticular activation system. And what that does is we 229 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: are consuming so much information all the time as humans. 230 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: We are always scanning for information that makes us true 231 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: or safe. So if you wake up and you're like 232 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: life is hard, things are hard, and nothing works out 233 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 5: for me, your RAP system is figuring out, Like I'm 234 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 5: sure there was something underneath that rainbow, like there was 235 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 5: a traffic jam or there was this, or that was that, 236 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 5: and you were like, okay, but I see the rainbow 237 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 5: in the traffic jem and I see the rainbow. 238 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: And then moment I was like, oh my god, because 239 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: I'm so guilty of just like back in the day, 240 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: I felt like I was bitter at embodying all these 241 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: things that I believed, like having all these retchalks. 242 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: But it's so easy to get caught back. 243 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: Up and that like we as you talk about, and 244 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: I know there's so many beautiful things that I miss 245 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 3: out on. So it was it was quite like a 246 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: powerful moment where I was like, you cannot afford to 247 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: miss all of this beauty and magic, because that's what 248 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: it's all about. 249 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: And we do become addicted very immediately to our to 250 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: do lists and our needs and our children's needs and 251 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: the work and like. But the thing is, which is 252 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 5: so funny and very humbling, is the world doesn't end 253 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 5: if you didn't do the grocery shop, or if the 254 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 5: child is like the school, or if you didn't have 255 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 5: as many talking points for the radio show, like it 256 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: just doesn't like maybe eventually you'll lose your job if 257 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 5: you don't keep. 258 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Doing it over and over. 259 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 5: But I think we start to lose. We are putting 260 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: things in a very important category that aren't and we're 261 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 5: putting ourselves and our mental health and our move movement 262 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 5: and our conversations as like something at the bottom of 263 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: the barrels too. When I've put the kids to bed 264 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 5: and I lay on the couch and I'm scrolling on 265 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 5: TikTok and watching a show at the same time, like 266 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: it just we're responsible, And I don't think that anyone 267 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: can like victimize themselves because we all have the ability, 268 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 5: like we really do. 269 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: Okay, so give me some really great ways things that 270 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: we can do to weave into our day to encourage 271 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: that presence. 272 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: I think firstly, this isn't like a quick hit. This 273 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: isn't like winning the lotto. This isn't like a pyramid 274 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: scheme marketing thing where you may keeps of money, and like, 275 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: no one is going to do this for you, and 276 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: it is going to require commitment to yourself. But I 277 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: can tell you the people that we look up to, 278 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: the celebrities or the entrepreneurs or the billion dollar business people, 279 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: have such integrity with their routines to themselves. So I 280 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: say to everyone in the course, especially when you're starting, 281 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 5: get up thirty minutes before you usually do right, And 282 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: that's really hard if you've got kids and you're getting 283 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 5: up at five instead of five thirty, right, but go 284 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: to bed earlier and in that thirty minutes you have 285 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: the ability to create a declaration when you're in an 286 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 5: alpha state, that awake state, right to program your rust system. 287 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 5: You can do some some I want to say human users. 288 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: I want to say it's called like horizon gazing, but 289 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 5: it's when you look out and you're kind of balancing 290 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 5: your circadian rhythm, which is going to really support your sleep. 291 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: You can either journal or meditate, whichever feels better for you. 292 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 5: Move and stretch, eat, Like if you do like two 293 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: of those six things, you're already setting yourself up right. 294 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 5: So when the kids get up, they're like on, they're 295 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 5: like ready, and you're gonna be a better parent. You're 296 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 5: going to be more patient, You're gonna be able to 297 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: listen to them. They're having a tantrum because they want 298 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: the blue cup not the red cup. You're like, I 299 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: really understand, I get it. Fuck, I really like the 300 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: red cup too, But you won't be just like pulling 301 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: them out the door. Oh maybe you will, you know. 302 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: But I think that starting your day for yourself and 303 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 5: allowing yourself to set intentions rather than the day catch 304 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: you up is really important. And then there are a 305 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 5: million other things that we can bring in, Like you 306 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 5: really got to be serious about what you're consuming, how 307 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: much water you're drinking. Are you a caffeinated person and 308 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 5: you're relying on stimulants? Are you getting your nourishment in 309 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: like where little like organisms we need to be bed 310 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: and watered and s And I think it's like looking 311 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 5: at basics, are you moving every day? And then like 312 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 5: how do you see the world and what are you doing? 313 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 5: So co creation, how I teach it isn't wish for 314 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 5: thinking that a ferrari is going to end up at 315 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: your doorstep just because you put it on your vision board. 316 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: It's like what am I doing today? What actions am 317 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 5: I taking to be magnetic to what I want? And 318 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: so like I had a real doozy of a day 319 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 5: on Thursday. It was like our fucking doozy, horrendous jet lag. 320 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 5: I hadn't slept at all, bench had food poisoning. My 321 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: nanny was off. One of my favorite favorite teammates within 322 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 5: my business resigned. A lawyer needed a very specific information 323 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 5: from me, my account wanted to have a really hard conversation. 324 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 5: My dog vomited. I couldn't. I couldn't. My daughter was like, 325 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: you know, like at me. And so it was a 326 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 5: real moment of like, that doesn't just kick a person 327 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: into doing that, kicks you into like safety seeking, behavior 328 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 5: finding security. And I went into my my autopilot, which 329 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 5: is like fix everything now, like blinkers on, don't talk 330 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 5: to me. I'm going to solve all the world's problems 331 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: in this moment. And then my husband was like, you're 332 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 5: not okay. I was like, I'm really not okay. Like 333 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: a lot is happening, and we have this beautiful session. 334 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 5: We had this workshop within the community that night, which 335 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 5: was such perfect timing, and within this workshop, I was 336 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 5: able to explore what it would look like if I 337 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 5: did things differently like that way of like tunnel vision, 338 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: getting a everything done, fixing it all in one day 339 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 5: and stressing myself out. I've done for forty years, So 340 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 5: what would the other way look like. I saw benj 341 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: my husband, downstairs, after this workshop, and I said listen. 342 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 5: I know I was in a wild state when you 343 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: saw me. I need you to know that I'm going 344 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: to practice something and tomorrow I am not going to 345 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 5: do anything about those things I've already like literally shot off. 346 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: I've taken so much action today to put out ten fires. 347 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 5: But tomorrow I'm not going to chase like the fire engine. 348 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: I'm just going to allow the action that I've taken 349 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 5: to simmer and connect. I'm going to go to the beach, 350 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: nice beach. I take my daughter to the beach, and 351 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 5: I am physically going to take myself out of where 352 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: I want to be with fixing. And it was in 353 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 5: those moments, and that's what I said at the beginning 354 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 5: of this, which was when the shit hits the fan, 355 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: what learnings and what practices are you putting into place? 356 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 5: Because we go to the place we feel the safest, 357 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: we don't go to the place which we have the 358 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: greatest growth. And so I took my own advice and 359 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: I went to the beach and I did that stuff, 360 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 5: and then I realized, with a bit of space, you 361 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 5: have a bit of clarity that I was like, oh 362 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 5: my god, this colleague leaving is the best thing for 363 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 5: us and it hurts because I love them, but you 364 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 5: would never have let them go. You would never and 365 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 5: this is holding the business back. What are you going 366 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 5: to do? And so now on Monday morning, I have 367 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: three incredible business strategists that are like the whole thing 368 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 5: has just come together because there's been space and I've 369 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 5: done something implemented the growth without kind of that habitual. 370 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 5: You know, I wanted wine. I wanted heaps of wine. 371 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 5: I wanted to eat heaps of chips, and I wanted to. 372 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: Did you do any of that or did you just 373 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: go to the beach? 374 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 5: I just went to the beach and then I went 375 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 5: for a walk and it was like this is so 376 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: fucked being woke, Like how boring. And then on the 377 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 5: weekend I definitely had two glasses of red wine. That's 378 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: me being really wild. And I've woken up today no 379 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 5: jet lag and just like I just am excited, like 380 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 5: I did all my practices this morning. 381 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm back. 382 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, And only it doesn't have to You don't have 383 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 5: to spial for six months, like you can like do 384 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: this in a day. 385 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: With manifestations, people often talk about not forcing, not forcing, 386 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: not forcing. You took a step back from there, and 387 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: you just allowed, and then all of a sudden it 388 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: was yeah, in. 389 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 5: Mantra, it was like, let go let God, you know, 390 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 5: trust trust for us. But that's really hard for like 391 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: a control freak. Even as a manifestation master like you, 392 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: still it's just a humbling experience because you never graduate 393 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 5: from this stuff. Your life is just impacted by different 394 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 5: situations and circumstances where you just keep leveling up and 395 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: it's a beautiful life, like it's an extraordinary life. But 396 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 5: what you see a success and what I see a 397 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 5: success and the person listening are so vastly different. And 398 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: I'm not playing the game anymore for whatever anybody else 399 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 5: thinks is successful. 400 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: For me, God, I get so caught up in there, 401 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: I really do. 402 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: And I think that I'm bigger than that, or you know, 403 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: mature enough to like see past it. But I still 404 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: compare myself to so many people, and I'm like, why 405 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: the hell am I comparing myself to her? I don't 406 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: actually want to be like her, but I'm still comparing myself. 407 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 5: But if you didn't want what she had, why you 408 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: compare exactly? 409 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 2: I don't know, but because there must be an answer. 410 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: There's got to be something I don't know, because I 411 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: feel like they've got more success than me, and I 412 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: feel like I could be doing that. 413 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: But then I'm like, no, but I don't want to 414 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: be doing that. Do you know what I mean? 415 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: But do you think that their peers are looking at 416 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 5: them like, oh, they're more successful than Polly. 417 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: No one, No one's looking at it like that my brain, 418 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: or like. 419 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 5: Are they thinking, you know, Polly chose to live out 420 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 5: in the wilderness and chose peace, and I'm still here 421 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 5: doing the rat race thing like Polly's got success. I 422 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 5: don't I want that. Do you know what I mean? 423 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: Oh, it's the rose ten of glasses, It's the grass 424 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: is always greener mentality. And I want to know do 425 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: you have an answer on how to get out of it? 426 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: I think we need to get really really clear on 427 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 5: what we want and why we want it. And if 428 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 5: you come from a place of ego where I want 429 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 5: what she has or I want that job, because then 430 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 5: my peers think, or my mum think, or I'll drive 431 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 5: a Lamborghini and hot chicks will like me. Versus I 432 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: want to do work that I feel passionate and purposeful, 433 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 5: and I want to be living a life in integrity 434 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 5: and of service to others are two very different things. 435 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: Like it's okay to want fancy shit because our ego 436 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 5: is always running in the background and we want people 437 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 5: to give us a compliment or acknowledge us or make 438 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 5: us seen like it's very human. But that's fine on 439 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 5: like a superficial level when we're talking about like our 440 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 5: life path and our purpose, like get really clear on why. 441 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 5: Because when we go back to that whole point of 442 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 5: like feeling the feeling of being the most successful version 443 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 5: of yourself, right, if you're living that feeling, walking as 444 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: if you're that person, talking as if you're that person, 445 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 5: you're going to be a t tracting so many opportunities 446 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 5: and people and places and things and serendipitous moments that 447 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 5: meet you there when it's in truth versus ego. And 448 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: so it's like you can keep trying to out smart 449 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 5: yourself or you can just like surrender your options. 450 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: Yes, And when you get into those mindset's this such 451 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 3: roadblocks and obstacles to actually getting what you want, Like 452 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: they're just fucking waste of time, waste. 453 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: Of time, And you think you want the push right, yes, 454 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: and then you get it and you realize no one 455 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 5: is looking at you in your push, no one gives 456 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 5: a shit about you and your push, like they really don't, 457 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: and the people that do, like, you know what I mean. 458 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: I remember when I was in Australia and I was 459 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: on billboards and I was like, really good work, and 460 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: I just remember going, as I say, I was like 461 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: I find o this river, this is not going to 462 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: be this, Like there was such a big part of 463 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: me that didn't feel that deep sense of fulfillment, and 464 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: like that was confronting to a lot of people. I 465 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: think they were like, why would you step away when 466 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: you're in you know, this position? And I was like, 467 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: I can't really explain it, but I just got to 468 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 3: go home and I got to ground my roads. And 469 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: you're like, you've got to follow those nudges. 470 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 5: And I think that people see that as successful when 471 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: you're not being dictated to by what society is you 472 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 5: should have and you're following your truth, even if that 473 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 5: looks crazy, like like living in this beautiful home and 474 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 5: not wanting it anymore because it's too much, and you 475 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 5: don't know it's too much, but until you're in it 476 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 5: and going like I want something that is enough not 477 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: too much, like it's weird for people are not okay, 478 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: and that's okay because they're not in the same place 479 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 5: as you, and you just have to be like you 480 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 5: will be confront for people because they are being mirrored 481 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: what is actually drinking back to them And that's not 482 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: your problem. You just have to be in your truth. 483 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: So you're going to get a tiny home and like 484 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: to rural New Zealand. 485 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 5: Next to you fighting for your radio job. 486 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: So I've seen you talk about the importance of boundaries, 487 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: particularly over the last couple of years. 488 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: Can you talk through that, like, how does that look 489 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: for you? Saying no? As a former people pleaser. 490 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 5: Oh my god. Like I had Terry Cole, who is 491 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: like the boundary master, come on board and take us 492 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 5: through it. And I think it's just such an interesting thing, 493 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: especially raising a little girl to you know, what we're 494 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 5: like as women and how we were raised as children 495 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties is such a impact on 496 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 5: our boundaries sexually, with consent, with work, with like signing 497 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: off your email's kiss kiss, like like all of the 498 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 5: stuff as a woman and boundaries versus even bringing in 499 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: you know, men into the equation and how they do 500 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 5: boundaries that just seem so much more adequate than we are. 501 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: But boundaries. So I'm writing a book. It's in its 502 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 5: almost at its final edit and hard it's my first deal. 503 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so great. 504 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 5: Congratulations, thank you. It's such a wonderful experience. But this, 505 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: this whole I have this whole chapter around boundaries because 506 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 5: it's almost like, and I explain it like this, like 507 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: having a door, bitch right to your energy and to yourself. 508 00:28:51,200 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: And you are a exquisite like very very elevated club. 509 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: You know, like we're talking, you just can't get in. 510 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 5: You need like a membership, you need who's who, like 511 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: it is like the Kram Dela Cram. And then you've 512 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 5: got drunks out in the middle of the night trying 513 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 5: to get into your club. It's like, no, they're going 514 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 5: to come in, piss on the walls, have punch up, 515 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 5: smash all the glasses, like absolutely not, Like this is 516 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: a sacred place. Boundaries are for us. It looks like 517 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 5: we're putting a boundary there for somebody else, but they 518 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 5: are for us. And when we say unfortunately, I'm out 519 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 5: of office from three pm every day and the emails 520 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 5: keep coming and you get back to them on a 521 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 5: Monday and they're like, hey, you didn't get back to 522 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 5: my emails. Yeah, it really clearly states that I'm out 523 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 5: of office from three pm without an explanation. When a 524 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 5: family member wants to come over and see your newborn 525 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 5: baby but they're sick, and you're like, sorry, we're not 526 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: having visitors for this week and next, and i'd really 527 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 5: appreciate it if you could let me know when you're 528 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: well and then we'll organize a time that suits us. 529 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 5: You know, like all of these things, it's not people 530 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: see it as being rude. It's not being rude. It's 531 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 5: allowing people to understand your standards and what you require 532 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 5: in life. People think that I am very particular neurotic, 533 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 5: and some of those things are true, but I also 534 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 5: have exceptional standards for myself and then for everybody else. 535 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 5: If you're in my orbit, and if you're not, like 536 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: I don't mind, but if you're working with me or 537 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 5: if we're friends, there is a quality that I expect 538 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 5: and that I will return in favor. And I think 539 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 5: the boundaries help that. And I'm really willing, like I 540 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 5: love other people's boundaries. When I see someone like set 541 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 5: a boundary. I'm like, fuck, that's hot. I'm so sexy 542 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 5: for them, Like I like respect, you have self respect, 543 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 5: So I mean you want more information. The whole workshop 544 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 5: gives you like play by play on how to set 545 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: a boundary. But this also will come up in moments 546 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: that feel deeply uncomfortable, where you will people please when 547 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 5: you really should set a boundary. 548 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: And so how do you how do you prevent that? 549 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: Like when it is an in this like spur of 550 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: the moment kind of thing and someone's there and you're 551 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: like not prepared for it, because I guess with boundaries, 552 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: sometimes people can be ready to reply with an email 553 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: or whatever. But if someone comes up and they ask 554 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: something in your face and you're like, like the people 555 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: pleaser might want to come out. 556 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 5: But of course I would say, like, if we're going 557 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: from full on people pleasing to boundaries, there's like an evolution. 558 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: I would ask for time. I would say like, oh, 559 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 5: that's a really interesting question. Could I get back to 560 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 5: you on that, not in a in five minutes or 561 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 5: in a day. Can I get back to you on that. 562 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: That's a really kind way to pause yourself. Then you 563 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 5: could reflect and go like oh, no, I could have 564 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 5: said thank you so much for the opportunity, it just 565 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 5: doesn't fit for me. Or unfortunately I can't stay back 566 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 5: today I have some commitments, you know. Or unfortunately my 567 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 5: contracts I end every day five o'clock. I won't be 568 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 5: staying back. But we can negotiate if you wanted to 569 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 5: explore something further. So I think to start with us 570 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: for time and then reflect on what you really wanted 571 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 5: to say, and then always lead with kindness. It's like 572 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: being really firm but being really kind. 573 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: And how has life changed since you've been better at 574 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: sitting these boundaries? 575 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 5: Like you just have so much more time you can't 576 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: like life is too short to do things you feel 577 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: obligated to do unless you're in a contract. 578 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't really get out of that. 579 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 5: Look, I'm really in this transitional evolution even with friendships 580 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 5: with family members, Like, really, I'm doing some big stuff, 581 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 5: ending some big relationships that have required endings for a 582 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 5: long time that I haven't been able to do out 583 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 5: of obligation. And you don't. No one deserves anything from 584 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: you if they're not meeting you. And it feels so good. 585 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that there are parts of me like 586 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: the shadowy parts of myself that don't miss them, you know, 587 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 5: and the comfort of certain parts of the relationship. But 588 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 5: the commitment to myself is more important than that. 589 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: M I love that. 590 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: So how would you describe how life feels right now 591 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: for you? 592 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 5: Really exciting? Thursday wasn't so exciting. Today is really exciting. 593 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 5: There is a lot of movement, there's a lot of change, 594 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 5: but I am so willing to evolve, and just I 595 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 5: think I've had that weird, you know, society impact on 596 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 5: me where I have to keep scaling and growing and scaling, 597 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: and now I'm just like, no, no, I'm just. 598 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: Gonna I'm going to downsize. 599 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: Yes, the quality of what I've got out there is 600 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: so high, it's ever green. We don't I don't need 601 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 5: need to do more without that happening really organically. 602 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: Or if there was a quote that you live by, 603 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: or you think there's a quote that is such a 604 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: good mantra for one's life, does one pop to the 605 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 3: top of your head. 606 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 5: I've got one. We had to we did this for 607 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 5: the book, and I was like, asking you shall receive 608 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 5: and it's actually that quote is actually in the Bible, 609 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 5: And so we had to like reference the Bible, and 610 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 5: then they were like, you're definitely setting the wrong tone 611 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 5: the book. So I removed asking you shah receive to 612 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 5: whether you think it's true or not? Hang on, it's 613 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 5: oh my god, where do you think it? What do 614 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 5: you think it's true or not? 615 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: You're right right? 616 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is some of one like that, like whether 617 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: you think you can or not, you're right right as well. 618 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I love that because it's the same thing. 619 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 5: There's too many like I love let go or be dragged. 620 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 5: That's one of my favoritess therapist because she's my therapist, 621 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 5: is like a psychologist, but she's definitely spiritually inclined. We 622 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: had this real we had an amazing session and we 623 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 5: kind of I guess I said that and she's kept 624 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 5: it forever as a reminder to me. Is like, you know, 625 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 5: you can choose the hard way or the easy way, 626 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 5: it's still going to be the way. 627 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's good. 628 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really. 629 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 3: Good for someone who's in a bit of a rut 630 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: at the moment, feeling like they're not loving their best 631 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: life and there's so much more that they want to 632 00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 3: be achieving. 633 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: They just feel like they're kind of stuck. Do you 634 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: have any advice to get out of that rut? 635 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 5: I mean, join the membership, use me to your disposus, 636 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 5: come in something really seriously though, within that community is 637 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 5: having people around you to inspire you. We call them rises, 638 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 5: and they're people that show, like you know how you 639 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 5: were like comparing yourself to the girl at the radio station, 640 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 5: being able to transform her into if you wanted that 641 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 5: you didn't want that, right, but say that you did. 642 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 5: Transforming that envy into someone that stretches you, that you 643 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 5: can talk to, that you're inspired by, is such an 644 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 5: amazing way. And within the community, you have all these 645 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 5: people every day going, oh my god, I'm stuck, I'm 646 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 5: in a rut, and you have someone else coming up 647 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 5: with this helped me? Or did you try this or 648 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 5: this meditation is amazing? Or did you do the Inner 649 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 5: Child workshop? And then you've got people that are there 650 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: to champion you. You've got people there that can help 651 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 5: you do priming phone calls. Like I think staying accountable 652 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 5: is the biggest thing. It's kind of like a gym 653 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 5: work membership or losing weight or doing something new. You 654 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 5: have to have accountability. And that's why I created the 655 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 5: community is because and I'm talking about the Arise community 656 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 5: is because when I was in this ten years ago 657 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 5: and there was no one doing it, it's so hard 658 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 5: to stay committed and to believe. And even when you've 659 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 5: called in everything and you've taken the aligned action and 660 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 5: you've done everything, and you're in the abyss, which is 661 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 5: the time where we wait for the manifestation to occur, 662 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 5: it's hard. Bit I hate the most, and so having 663 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 5: being in a space that's safe and you can just 664 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 5: be like, I am dying here, like my patience is 665 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 5: running out what I do and they're like, go back 666 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 5: to trust, go back to gratitude, do like, go back 667 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 5: to the work. It's such a help helpful thing because 668 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 5: when you're out on your loan like an Island and 669 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 5: you're in the abuse, You're like, it doesn't work. Fuck 670 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 5: this ship. I'm going back to my old job that 671 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 5: I hate. So yeah, I've created the thing I needed 672 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 5: the most, and it's it's very impactful. 673 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 3: So people can find that just if we want to 674 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: do a little fluggy blood plug. 675 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 5: I think it's I think, oh my gosh, I should notice. 676 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 5: I think it's a rise dot com dot a U 677 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 5: A R double I S E or on Instagram, it's 678 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 5: a rise A RI I double A S E Underscore 679 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 5: Underscot underscore because I fucked up the first did you 680 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 5: charge of that? 681 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: Come on, guys, guys, that's why you act like you're 682 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 3: terrible and then no one asks you to do things. 683 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 5: It's a good, good technician, accomplishent woman. 684 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm going to wrap this podcast up with 685 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: some advice that you would give to your younger self. Say, Zoe, 686 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: is it early twenties, she's just finding her. 687 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: Way through life. What would be the biggest. 688 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: Negative wisdom that you would in part on younger Zo. 689 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 5: It's going to get really really bad and then it's 690 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 5: going to get really really good. So just have faith 691 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 5: when you want to give up, but it gets really good. 692 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 5: Like just trust. 693 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 3: So beautiful, Zoe, and so nice to reconnect with you today. 694 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: I just love because you talk about. 695 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: Evolving and how you love growth and all of that, 696 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 3: and I just feel like every time I see you, 697 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: you're like an upgraded version of yourself. 698 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: I love that. 699 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 5: That'd be terrible if I'd like gone backwards, right, You'd 700 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 5: be like, what a disappointment, No, but. 701 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: You are, But like you grow. 702 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: You're just constantly shifting with putting a challenge is to 703 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: throw in your way, and I always look at you 704 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: as an inspiration. So thank you so much for coming 705 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 3: on the podcas Us today. 706 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 5: Thank you, beautiful girl. I can't wait to see you 707 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 5: in real life one day. Ah. 708 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: That was my chat with Zolley. 709 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: I really hope you enjoyed it. Love to know what 710 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 3: you got out of that conversation the most. I think 711 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: some of my big takeaways were they're getting up thirty 712 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 3: minutes earlier. It sounds like such a simple one, but 713 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 3: even when she put it like, oh, if you've got 714 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 3: to be tired, got to be thirty minutes earlier. 715 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: You know, you have to be. 716 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 3: Strict on sleep. Like sleep at the end of the 717 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 3: day is it runs us like honestly, we have to 718 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: get strict on it. And I I'm, for one, am 719 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 3: very guilty at staying up too late watching TV, particularly lately, 720 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: So that was a really good reminder for me. And 721 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: also I loved when she was talking about being the 722 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 3: gatekeeper for your energy and being ruthless and really setting 723 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: the boundaries of who gets to come into your life, which, 724 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 3: as she said, it sounds you know it can sound 725 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: quite brash and rude and brutal, but I mean, if 726 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: you want to give the best version of yourself, you 727 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: have to get really clear on who you want to 728 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 3: bring into your world. And then finally, I really liked 729 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: that story when she hit that really shitty day and 730 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 3: just letting go when she hits the fan, instead of 731 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: trying to fix everything and going into just the biggest 732 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 3: state of overwhelm, actually removing yourself from that situation and 733 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 3: going to the beach, going for a walk, whatever it is, 734 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 3: just getting out of that moment where the world feels 735 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: like it's falling in or the sky feels like it's 736 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 3: falling in, and actually stepping back gives. 737 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: You the other perspective. 738 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 3: So I really liked that not trying to push it 739 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 3: in those situations and just taking a deep breath and 740 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: realizing it's actually not the end of the world. But 741 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 3: I would love to know what you got out of 742 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 3: the chat this week, and you can help me up 743 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 3: on Instagram PJDJ see me a little message. I'd love 744 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 3: to know of any other people you think would be 745 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 3: great to get on for Slow It Down. Thank you 746 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 3: so much for joining me for my first episode. I 747 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,959 Speaker 3: really appreciate it, and I'll see you next week.