1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Raman travers on 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: early editions with one roof make your property search simple 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: news talks. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: That'd be John A. Good morning, welcome along to early edition. 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: I'm Roman Travis in for Ryan Bridge on this twenty 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: seventh day of January, Auckland Anniversary Day. Happy anniversary baby, 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: if that's what it is for you. At about ten 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: to six this morning, I'll be joined by the Northland MP, 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Grant McCallum, to talk about this mung of fied Tornado. 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely horrendous for the people in that part of the world. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: We'll find out more at about ten to six. Our 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: international correspondent this morning is Gayl Downey with news out 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: of Europe and the UK will have our reporter rap 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: as always. At about twenty past five, Elliot Smith joins 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: us for a rap of the weekend sport and in 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: just a few moments I'll be speaking the Treaty Principles 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: Bill with someone with a key stake in Lady tur 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: at Et Moxham, the managing director of te Corha Health, 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: will join us and talk about what's ahead of her today, 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: and of course I welcome your feedback. My email is 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Roman at Newstalks THEREB dot CO, dot NZ and the 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: text here is nine two nine two seven past five. 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: The agenda. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: South Korea's and peach president have been charged with insurrection 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: following his short lived declaration of martial law late last year. 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: Criminal charges that could put him to death or jail 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: for life if convicted, now separate from criminal judicial proceedings. 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: The Constitutional Court is now deliberating whether to formally dismiss 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: you and as president or to reinstate him. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: Lebanese authorities say Israeli forces have killed fifteen people in 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: the country south as this deadline for there withdrawal passes. 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: A US broken ceasefire was agreed to last year, halting 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: fighting between Israel and Hezbola. Israel says it will keep 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: troops in Lebanon beyond the ceasefire, adding they fired warning 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: shots to remove threats in a number of areas. A 36 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: nineteen year old has died in Scotland after a tree 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: on his car during storm Aowin. Scotland's first Prime minister 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: says people have heeded travel warnings. 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: The road traffic estimates in the central belt of Scotland 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: today and the trunk road network are essentially about eighty 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: percent lower than they would be on an average Friday. 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: So by making giving the announcements that we gave, by 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: indicating that it was unsafe to travel, the police advised 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: people not to travel by closing schools, which significantly reduced 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: the risks to members of the public. 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: Two people have died in the storm. The CIA says 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: it believes COVID is more likely to have been leaked 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: from a lab in China than to have originated naturally, 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: and then counter that assessment by saying it has low 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: confidence in it. Okay. The decision to release the assessment 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: is one of the first may by Trump's appointed CIA 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: director John Ratcliffe. 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Fromman Travers 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: and One Room Make Your Property Research Simple News Dogs. 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: That'd be nine past five. Look, I know this is 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: going to sound like I'm having a crack at the 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: Wellington City Council again, and that's because I am. Wellington 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: City Council have adopted this national trend that you see 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: more and more of celebrating mediocrity. When things go tits up, 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: you can rest assured that there's always a public relations 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 2: machine sitting there, idling away, just waiting to be put 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: into gear flat out down the road of self gratification 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: with perception bending power steering. And here's an example of that. 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Wellington's ongoing efforts to address water infrastructure woes have reached 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: a milestone, with the region's number of leaky pipes dropping 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: under four hundred for the first time in four years. 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: Wellington met Tory Farno says that the decrease in leeks 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: was a huge relief. She thinks that water infrastructure seems 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: like a big problem, and it is, but when you 70 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: start seeing those winds, it reminds you that actually prioritizing them, 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: investing in the money and getting that spent, what's the 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: right thing to do. Really. Tory Farno also says that 73 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: they have over three thousand kilometers of pipes to replace, 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: so it's going to take a long time. Look, I 75 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: realized that a council inherited not only a hospital pass 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: of problems, more like a complete health system of paths 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: of problems, complete with seemingly never ending issues. But to 78 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: find absolutely positively positivity in Wellington's issues is just an 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: entire pr machine proving to you and I that they're 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: hard at work. Let me know what your thoughts are 81 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: on that, especially if you're in Wellington struggling with your 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: water quality or your ability to flush the tour that 83 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: not see the contents on Courtney Place. And just a 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: few moments I'll be speaking with the Treaty Principles Bill. 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: What are the key people involved with that? Lady turt 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: Moxon and her thoughts as She'll be making a submission 87 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: with the oral submissions today. Ten past five. It's early 88 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: edition used talk sad. 89 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: B, News and views You trust to start your day. 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: It's a billy edition with Roman travers and one roof. 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Make your property search simple, you talk to me. 92 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: Thirteen past five. Well Oral hearings for the Treaty Principal's 93 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 2: Bill get underway today, marking the start of eighty hours 94 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: worth of hearings over the course of a month. The 95 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: total number of online submissions received isn't known yet as 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: processing continues. Author of the bill and at party leader 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: David Seymour will be the first to give his submission 98 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: later this morning. A total of fifty oral submissions will 99 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: be heard on day one. Lady turt Et Moxon is 100 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: the managing director of tair Kahul Health and we'll be 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: speaking at Parliament later this morning, and she joins me, now, 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: a very good morning to you, Very good morning to 103 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: you too. Look, thanks so much for getting up early 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: in joining us. What are you expecting today? How are 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: you expecting things to go? 106 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: Well? I think it should go pretty smoothly. I think 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 5: they've got a lot to do. But our submission is 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 5: basically we're saying what what we believe needs to happen 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: in terms of this bill and the fact that we 110 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: reject it, both reaching out and oppose it. 111 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: So it's been a heck of a process, hasn't How 112 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: have you found the process to get to this point? 113 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: Well, it has been a heck of a process. And 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 5: the worst of it is there's a waste of time 115 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 5: simply because labor are sorry, national and and you said 116 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: these have both said that they weren't they weren't they 117 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 5: weren't supported beyond this process. Well, how ridiculous is that? 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 5: Why would you put us through that process? Is that 119 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: if you have no intention of supporting it going forward? 120 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 5: So you know, we're pleased about that, don't get me wrong, 121 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: But I'm sure we can be spending a lot of that, 122 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 5: all that money and all that time and resource aren't 123 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: better things. 124 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: Okay, well, there's a fair point. I think you're making 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: a good point. So what is the point and you're 126 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: making a submission today with a bill that's going nowhere. 127 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 5: Well, simply because we must be heard, and you'll find 128 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 5: that the other people behind me or for you know 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 5: that other people behind me will feel the same way. 130 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 5: And you know, you've got to remember too that we 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: had the largest protests in the country in terms of 132 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: the Treaty Principles Bill, and so you know, forty two 133 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 5: thousand people got out and spoke to their feet. So 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: you know, I actually think that there is it's important 135 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 5: to be able to see to them and all of 136 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: those yet to come in our future that we try 137 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: to do something. 138 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: Do you think it, Well, look, it's a fair point, 139 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people would love to 140 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: be there listening to what's going on, or maybe not. 141 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: Do you think do you think there was widely a 142 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: misinterpretation of what the Treaty Principal's Bill was wanting to achieve? 143 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: Do you think it was widely misunderstood by the majority 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: of people? 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: Well, I think for a lot number of people who 146 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 5: do not understand what truly means and has no understanding 147 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: of what history history of this country is or even 148 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: the plight of Maori in our country. I would say, very, 149 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: very categorically, it's a lot of people who have put 150 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: in submissions, will have submitted have a misunderstanding of what 151 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 5: it means. 152 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: I know you're going to be speaking very early this morning. 153 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: I think you're on at eight thirty this morning, aren't. 154 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 6: You that's correct? 155 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: Yes, Can you give us a little bit of a 156 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: taster about what you'll be saying. 157 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: Well, definitely, I'll be saying that we're we rejected and 158 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: opposed the at the and also I think that that 159 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 5: it should be rejected and opposed by the Select Committee. 160 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: But more over than that than not, I really think 161 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 5: that that you know the that this is a breach 162 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: of to three to your white tonguey and. 163 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 6: And it will it will be a breach forever no 164 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 6: matter how they try to reinterpret the principles and pretty 165 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 6: basically take over. 166 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: From from the court. You know, there's a difference between 167 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 5: the court's interpreting this, you know, the principles from the acts. 168 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: You know, government react ax and the court's interpret the 169 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 5: acts and the police enforce the acts. So here we are. 170 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: We've got a government to trying to do both. 171 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: Lady turdyt Mox and thank you so much for your 172 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: time and and all the very best this morning, and 173 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: it's an early start your submission at eight thirty this morning. 174 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time. Let me you know your thoughts 175 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: on that. Have you got any great feelings about that? 176 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: The text is nine two ninety two or z b ZB. 177 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: Let's wrap up the weekend sport with Elliot Smith in 178 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: just a few moments on Early Edition News Talks thereb 179 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: eighteen past five. 180 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Roman Travers on early edition with one roof make your 181 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple, Used. 182 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: Talk zibby twenty past five. Elliot Smith, He's everywhere, He's 183 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: everywhere all over the sport. He's our news Talk Zibbie 184 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: sport expert. And man, there's been some sport this weekend. 185 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 7: Hasn't it. Just yeah, this is the collision all the 186 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 7: seasons sort of coming together, isn't it. And I suppose 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 7: you look at the Australian Open final. It was a 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 7: great time of the year. Two big finals of course 189 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 7: over the weekend. The Women's on Saturday night won by 190 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 7: Madison Keys, who's been a regular visitor actually to Auckland's 191 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 7: through a number of seasons, beating the world number one 192 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 7: net Sabalinka and a really really entertaining final two sets 193 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 7: to one last night's men's final bit more one way 194 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 7: traffic to be honest. Jarick Center, the world number one 195 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 7: beating Alexander Verev and in straight sets last night, didn't 196 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 7: have it all his own way, but pretty straightforward her. 197 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 7: For Jarnick Center, who is the world number one best 198 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 7: player in the hard courts at the moment, there is 199 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 7: the doping case sort of hanging over him, which is 200 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 7: interesting in a fascinating backdrop to his success in recent times. 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 7: The cream and the massuse and everything like that. The 202 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 7: Court of Arbitration for Sport here having an appeal in 203 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 7: a couple of months time. But regardless, he is showing 204 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 7: what he's capable of. And Zveriev had another crack. It's 205 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 7: winning a major. Probably the best player on tour at 206 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 7: the moment to have not won a Grand Slam tournament 207 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 7: by a Nixon last night to remain just too good. 208 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: I just had. I'm sorry, but that's a great title 209 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: for a book, The Cream and the Mississ the Story 210 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: of Oh my Lord. That's brilliant and some good news 211 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: for Auckland FC. 212 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 7: It was great new It's been a busy week for them, 213 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 7: three matches in seven days and they've emerged from that 214 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 7: really hectic period at the top of the A League ladder. 215 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 7: So this was always going to be a bit of 216 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 7: an acid test for them, this new club. They've fallen 217 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 7: away a little bit now they've come back up again 218 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 7: in a hectic period over the last week. Two wins 219 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 7: including last night ninety fifth minutes a fifth minute of 220 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 7: at a time against Western Sydney Nada and moreno one 221 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 7: of the import players getting the goal one nil, they win, 222 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 7: take the three points back. So draw and two wins 223 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 7: over the last moves them back to the top of 224 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 7: the eight league and they just seem to manage to 225 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 7: find a way, which is the really exciting thing about 226 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 7: this team. They don't know when they beats and don't 227 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 7: know when they're on the cusp of losing a game. 228 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 7: They risk it a point earlier in the week. So 229 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 7: back to the top of the ladder, which is great 230 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 7: news for them. 231 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: Remen Yeah, it is going from the beautiful game to 232 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: the very tall, fast game the breakers. 233 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a battling old season for the Breakers, 234 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 7: and you can put the calculator away remand the mathematical 235 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 7: hopes of their making the playoff are all but over over. 236 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 7: They lost last night ninety four seventy eight to Adelaide. 237 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 7: It's been a really poor season. They started really strongly, 238 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 7: had some personnel changes to their team board, and Tago Fall, 239 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 7: who's a two point two seven meter import, just hasn't 240 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 7: quite clicked. And with that defeat last night, out of 241 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 7: the playoffs and they won't be playing any for the basketball. 242 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 7: We've got two more games at home, but won't be 243 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 7: making the playoffs. 244 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: They've got some huge fans though, like literally big fans, 245 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: a big following, and they make. 246 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 7: That and even with the fact that they're out of 247 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 7: the playoffs, will still get I think decent crowds for 248 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 7: these last two games back at home. I think one's Friday. 249 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 7: One might be wi ng You Day potentially, but two 250 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 7: games home they'll get a really good credit sparker and 251 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 7: for both of those games, regardless of them being out 252 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 7: of the pluffs. But we chance look ahead and see 253 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 7: how they rebuild for their next campaign and what players 254 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 7: they bring, what players are thrown on the scrap heap, 255 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 7: as always happens at the end of the breaker season. 256 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, cheers, Elliott, Thank you so much. Elliott Smith from 257 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: News Talks AIRB Sport. Well, we've had food and schools 258 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: for a while, haven't we. What's the benefit of having 259 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: food and schools? Is there enough food in schools? A 260 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: new study released this morning shows some real issues for 261 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: our students right across New Zealand and their ability to 262 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: function at school and perform academically. And I've got some 263 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: more thoughts on that in just a few minutes twenty 264 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: three past five. It's early edition news Talks EDB the. 265 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: Early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 266 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,239 Speaker 1: News Talks. 267 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: AB twenty six past five. Although the school holidays are 268 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 2: in full swing, still that doesn't mean that the country's 269 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: children are getting the food they need at home. New 270 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 2: Zealand children are still going hungary at school and that 271 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: means they're going through and ending up years behind other 272 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: children in key subjects. The data that shows this ongoing 273 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: issue for us all also ranks New Zealand poorly for 274 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: food poverty. The health researchers behind this just published analysis 275 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: argue that government needs to double the number of children 276 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: served by its newly revamped Lunches in School scheme. It's 277 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: no surprise that hungary students struggled to learn. Food poverty 278 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: has been cited as a big barrier in New Zealand's 279 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: scoring under the OECD's Program for International Student Assessment. A 280 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: comparison between that and two other global data sets has 281 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: allowed a team of researchers to look at the link 282 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: in greater depth. After analyzing food and security levels after 283 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: subject specific scores, the team prevailed to start trend. Any 284 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: degree of food and security was associated with much lower 285 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: academic performance, a pattern that held across all subjects, age 286 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: groups and surveys. Professor Boyd Swinburn from Auckland University as 287 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: a co author of the study on referr to, and 288 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: he says he didn't expect the effect size to be 289 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: so large. In all, it equated to a learning gap 290 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: equivalent to hungry students trailing two to four years behind 291 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: in subjects like maths and reading by age fifteen, and 292 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: even after adjusting for socioeconomic indicators. Something else born to 293 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: the study is that there's also a grady in effect. 294 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: The more severe the food and security, the greater gap 295 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: in scores compared to kids with no food insecurity. The 296 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: problem doesn't just affect hungry children finding it harder to 297 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: concentrate in class, but other factors, including parents keeping their 298 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: kids home rather than facing stigma at school. It's all 299 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: very well to blame the state of New Zealand's curriculum 300 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: or the size of classrooms confronting our teachers, but when 301 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: you may well address some of the demonstrably poor outcomes 302 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: shown in the study by simply ensuring that our children 303 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: are well fed and literally well catered for at school, 304 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: what on earth are we waiting for? News talks zedby Look, 305 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: I welcome your feedback on anything you've heard, especially that 306 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: nine two nine and two, and my email is Roman 307 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: at Newstalk Zreb dot co dot nz. It does seem 308 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: really really odd to me that you would spend all 309 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: this time thinking is it a good idea to be 310 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: supplying food in school? There's been debates on it for 311 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: years and years and years. There's a lot of wastage, 312 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: they don't need it, parents should be supplying it. All 313 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: of that may be entirely true. Undoubtedly parents should be 314 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: and traditionally have been providing a cut lunch for you 315 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: to take to school. It might have been hideous. It 316 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: might have got warmer and warmer as the day got on, 317 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: like cheese and marmite sandwiches, which eventually became a version 318 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: of cheese on toast. But we're seen with the cost 319 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: of living that more and more families are unable to 320 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: meet those requirements. So if it's simply a case of 321 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: increasing a cheap meal for more students at school to 322 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: enhance their ability to do better, then it makes a 323 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: whole lot more sense to me. And I'm short wood 324 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: to you as well nine nine two to text and 325 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: my email is Romance and at NEWSTALKSIRB dot co dot NZ. 326 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: Well it's been all go, hasn't it. It's been all 327 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: go in Munga Phi and other parts of Northland. This 328 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: this tornado wreaking havoc over the weekend, absolutely destructive and 329 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: before six I'll be speaking with the mayor of that area, 330 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: Grant McCullum. He'll give us an update on what's happening 331 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: up there. Absolutely catastrophic. You've seen those pictures. Will find 332 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: out what's happening there and whether or not there'll be 333 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: government support or not. All that's coming up before six 334 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: o'clock this morning on Early Edition News Talks edb. 335 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: Cost Costing, the news you need this morning and the 336 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: in depth analysis Early Edition with Brahman Trappers and One 337 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Room Make Your Property Search Simple, News Talks Ed Brest Talk. 338 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: It's early addition Roman Travis and to Ryan Bridge. This 339 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: Auckland Anniversary for those that are north of tod On. 340 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: It's quite a big region actually, hope you're going to 341 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: have a lovely day. Just a reminder that in before Sex, 342 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: I'll be speaking with the Northland MP, Grant McCullum on 343 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: what's happening with those Munga Fi tornado after effects and 344 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: whether there'll be central government assistance for that. Our international 345 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: correspondent this morning in just a few moments will be 346 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: Gail Downey with news out of the UK and Europe 347 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: as well. Some feedback from you too. Wellington City Council 348 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: Roman didn't inherit the problems. The Mayor's knew, but the 349 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: dominant bulk of the council have been there a long 350 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: time and have been running the city down for many years. 351 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: But the pipes are pretty old too. 352 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 8: I don't know. 353 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: Look, it is an ongoing problem that several councils have 354 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: abdicated responsibility from right. Roman. Whenever I hear people argue 355 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: against the treaty principles, it's always word broad statements, but 356 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: never anything specific. Why is everyone so scared of it? 357 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: And what is it they're specifically scared of? Well, I 358 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: think it's a general lack of understanding. Isn't it running 359 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: with the flock as people do? Reman? If a parent 360 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: isn't feeding their child, isn't it likely that they're also 361 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: not helping them with reading and writing and maths, et cetera. Yeah, 362 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: quite possibly, Remand why do people keep having children they 363 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: can't afford to look after them? I'd also be interested 364 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: in the correlation with drug use and families in that 365 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: food security research. We'll keep that feedback coming in my 366 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: email Roman at Newstalkzreb dot co dot nz and the 367 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: text is nine two nine two twenty two to six 368 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 2: news Talk said, be heading around the country with our 369 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: reporter wrap Callum Proctor, good morning to you, Greetings, Good 370 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: morning Roman, Yeah, good morning. That was a bit Talia 371 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: but cold there this morning? Are what's this speaking of 372 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: being cole Calum? Can you imagine living in your car 373 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: as a student. 374 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 9: Well, no, but that could be a reality for many 375 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 9: here this year. It's the cost of living is a 376 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 9: big issue for students and it's only getting more expensive 377 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 9: for them here. Trade me figures show our region's rents 378 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 9: increased by eleven point six percent in the past year. 379 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 9: South Than's is up nearly seven percent. The students' associations 380 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 9: told us that data is not surprising given the issues 381 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 9: they are hearing about students trying to find affordable accommodation 382 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 9: this year. They say, twenty twenty five is already shaping 383 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 9: up to be more difficult than others for those flat hunting. 384 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 9: And it's scary to hear from students moving here that 385 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 9: they'll be living out of their cars and unable to 386 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 9: afford food. 387 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely horrendous, isn't it. What's speaking of the 388 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: weather and how cold it might be. What's the weather 389 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: going to do today? 390 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 9: Callum not great, few showers clear later today fresh, soole 391 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 9: westerly and sixteen. 392 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: Good on you, Cadum, Thank you so much, Callum Proctor 393 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: and Dunedin. Let's head to christ Church with Claire Sherwood. 394 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: Morning clear, good news for white bait. 395 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 10: Well, good news. Who's part concerned for white baiting behavior, 396 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 10: so there's concerns here about people fishing outside of the 397 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 10: restricted white baiting season. The Department of Conservation, which manages 398 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 10: the white bait fisheries here, have had one hundred and 399 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 10: sixty eight reports of possible regulation breaches from the end 400 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 10: of the season in August until the end of November. 401 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 10: They've taken fourteen enforcement actions so far. There's more still 402 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 10: to come. Some locals white baits themselves, are concerned that 403 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 10: fishing beyond the season could impact upon their catch numbers 404 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 10: next year. Basically, but nee was Mike Hickford says, unlike 405 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 10: other marine at fisheries, there's no way to tell why 406 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 10: a white bait season could be poor. He says having 407 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 10: fishery catch data coming in would be a huge step 408 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 10: forward in helping us to understand if populations define or 409 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 10: are in fact in decline. 410 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: No you good stuff? Is it a good day to 411 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: go fishing? In christ Church? 412 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 11: Miserable here to be honest. 413 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 10: Shao is very heavy this morning and will clear to 414 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 10: find this afternoon as strong southwesterlyes easing a high of 415 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 10: eighteen clear sherwood. 416 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: Thank you in christ Church. Let's go to Wellington, God's 417 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: chosen city, mechs toll. You've lost the warehouse, the warehouse 418 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: where everyone gets it. Well, it's broken, isn't it. 419 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, no bargain for people going to Tory Street anymore. 420 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 8: Quite an interesting story. Actually, we were first to report 421 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 8: last week that the warehouse was having to close. This 422 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 8: is the Central City branch, not of their own volition, 423 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 8: but because the landlord had decided not to renew the lease. 424 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 8: And we learn now that that's because my ten has 425 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 8: been given it and will open at the same site 426 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 8: toward the end of the year. We spoke to the 427 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 8: warehouse's national store operations manager last week. He told us 428 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 8: they're all gutted. They've operated there for thirty years. They 429 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 8: had to close for more than a year after a 430 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 8: devastating fire there. They had only just reopened mid last year. 431 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 8: But that's it. Apparently the landlord is not budging. Might 432 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 8: attend must be offering far more money, or there's something 433 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 8: we're not. 434 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: Yet aware of. Yeah, is it a good day to 435 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: go shopping in Wellington? 436 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 8: No, shower's pretty strong Southerleies as well, which, to be honest, 437 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 8: quite welcome after the hot, humid days we've had at 438 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 8: seventeen the high central. 439 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: Oh, you don't talk about humidity with me. Last night 440 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: was like sleeping in a fish tank underwater, a tropical one. 441 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: It was very what neither a timer? You're looking fresh 442 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: and well how many times have I told you? 443 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: Every time? 444 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 11: You say this every summer? Oh my, turn your air 445 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 11: corn on. It's been broken for flopping three. 446 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: Years, seven seven years? Actually, my goodness sake. Well we've 447 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: got to go through a reford. There's no point in 448 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: fixing it. They say, if you're not going to run, 449 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: would you do you kick the windows open and run 450 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: around naked most of. 451 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 11: The time, just trying to make it out of my head, 452 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 11: out of my head. 453 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: Put your hands up high so you don't get sweaty. 454 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 11: Armputs Happy Aukland Anniversary day. And here we are on 455 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 11: a public holiday. 456 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: What's happening with the weather around the Auckland and Northern region. 457 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 11: Well, are you talking about the weather or do I 458 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 11: go into the weather. 459 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: Or is it just not the weather? No, just the 460 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: story about the weather. Trying to be subtle. 461 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 11: Oh, you're trying to be subtle and you're trying to 462 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 11: be a well rounded broadcast excent. Well, do you know today, 463 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 11: two years to the day since the Orklanden, those three floods. Gosh, 464 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 11: it's just gone by so fast. But there's a hope 465 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 11: now that a greener future for Auckland can come out 466 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 11: of these severe weather events. Ages say their Roman I 467 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 11: mean Lyle Carter. Now he's the chair of the advocacy 468 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 11: group West Auckland is Flooding. He says, Look, it's reevaluating 469 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 11: what its role is going to be, you know, as 470 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 11: time goes on. It's been two years, he said, of course, 471 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 11: you know when it happened, they were advocating for people 472 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 11: suffering from the floods. But now this next steap will 473 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 11: be advocating for managed to retreat. He says that that's 474 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 11: going to be you know, it will include creating community 475 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 11: so that people can live with nature instead of against it, 476 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 11: and you know, coming up with some ideas all of that, 477 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 11: so which could take some time, isn't But I mean 478 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 11: Munga fire yesterday, that tornado and those photos. 479 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: That's crazy crazy, It's like you know, Central USA kind 480 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: of madness, isn't it. 481 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 11: And what they were saying to a miracle that there 482 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 11: were no debts incredible. 483 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: What's happening today? 484 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 11: With the weather isolated, chowers clearing to find late morning. 485 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 11: If you're out there at Auckland, you know, going down 486 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 11: to the waterfront, that small one off, it's all taking 487 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 11: off today. 488 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: You're going there, I'll be sleeping probably, Oh. 489 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, sleeping sweetie and everything. 490 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: No you can't. 491 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 11: Oh I have twety three for the rest of the 492 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 11: Auckland as they can enjoy it. 493 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: Love lovely never aity man, who thank you so much. 494 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: International correspondent Gail Downey with news out of Europe and 495 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: the UK joining us very shortly and just before Sex. 496 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: Grant McCallum, the MP for Northland, talking about what's happened 497 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: in Maunga pi as nevl was talking about absolutely terrible 498 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: seventeen to Sex. It's early edition. 499 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: US talks there b International correspondence with ins and Eye insurance, 500 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business the. 501 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: Thing to six and Gail Downey is our Europe and 502 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: UK correspondent. Morning to you go. Real problems here with 503 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: the big cleanup two after the big storms across the UK. 504 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 12: Yes, it's actually we now have a second storm on 505 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 12: its way which has begun to affect south west of England. 506 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 12: So places like Devon and Cornwall, so the cleanup operation 507 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 12: continues in Northern Ireland, Whales and parts of Western England 508 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 12: and of course the Irish Republic as well, which are 509 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 12: the worst affected. And two people died in separate incidents 510 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 12: when their cars were hit by falling trees. In Northern Ireland, 511 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 12: seventy five thousand people are still without power and the 512 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 12: energy companies are saying it could take up to ten 513 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 12: days to complete repairs needed. As I say, this isn't 514 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 12: the end of the bad weather. The new storm now 515 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 12: is called Hermonia and that's also leaving thousands of homes 516 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 12: without power today at Palmas, the Coastguard is saying to 517 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 12: people please please stay away from the coast because of 518 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 12: the crashing waves. Conditions out at Seat are described as 519 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 12: really really bad. 520 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that just sounds absolutely horrendous. The whole world's changing 521 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: with the weather systems. I really feel for you people there. 522 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: But there's some good news possibly with Heathrow Airport possibly 523 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: getting a third runway. 524 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 13: Well. 525 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 12: This has come out of an interview done by the 526 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 12: Chancellor Rachel Reeves. 527 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 14: This week. 528 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 12: The government is expected to make an announcement as part 529 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 12: of plans to boost the UK economy and part of 530 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 12: that announcement it looks like it could be talk of 531 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 12: a third runway at Heathrow. So the government's already approved 532 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 12: the expansion of London City Airport and also Stanstead Airport, 533 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 12: stan said, which is more popular for holiday flights. And 534 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 12: now she's announced Rachel Reaves and said they're looking at 535 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 12: backing the expansion of Heathrow, saying that sustainable aviation and 536 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 12: economic growth go hand in hand and that rather than 537 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 12: circling London flights can land. Of course the environmentalists are 538 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 12: concerned about this, and what she says is sustainable fuel 539 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 12: was changing the carbon emissions from flying. But not everyone's 540 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 12: going to be happy. Environmental groups, as I mentioned, residents 541 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 12: living near the airport, and even some Labour MPs, including 542 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 12: the Prime Minister when he was in opposition, have all 543 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 12: voiced concern In the past. London's mayor said he khn't 544 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 12: said he was still opposed to runway and he would 545 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 12: actually support a legal challenge if the government did back 546 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 12: proposals for the third runway. 547 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: See I've always thought he throw ahead more than two runways. Anyway, 548 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: it's one of the biggest airports I've ever been to. 549 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 12: It's absolutely huge, isn't it. And it's something like a 550 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 12: plane lands every three minutes, lands or takes off every 551 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 12: three minutes. It is constantly busy. And that's the thing 552 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 12: that local residents, people living near the airport really really 553 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 12: don't want any more any more runways. 554 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: No, that's always the case, isn't it. Gale, not in 555 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: my backyard. No prisons, no shopping malls, no airports, no anything. Really, 556 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: just leave me alone to my piece and quite all 557 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: the very bas scale. Thank you so much. With all 558 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: those storms you're confronted with over there, I really feel 559 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: for all of the people of the UK that it 560 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: may well be listening on iHeartRadio. Gail Downey, Europe and 561 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: UK correspondent eleven to six News Talks it'd be well. 562 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of storms, the cleanup will continue this morning in Munga, 563 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: FI after a tour ripped through the beachside north in town. 564 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: Around fifty buildings received damage and two people were taken 565 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: to hospital with serious injuries, one of them thrown out 566 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: of her second story house while sleeping. Yikes. Northern Power 567 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: see some areas will be without power for much of 568 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: the day. Grant McCallum is the MP for North and 569 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: he's been in Munga fire surveying the damage and he 570 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: joins me, Now, good Lord Grant, what on earth struck 571 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: the place? 572 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 13: Yeah, good morning, Gramman. 573 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. 574 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 13: It was pretty devastating. 575 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 5: It was. 576 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 13: It's quite uncanny. You know, we will see those pictures 577 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 13: in America where the tornadoes go through town and you'll 578 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 13: be a strip with this destruction on either side. Not 579 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 13: pretty okay, And that was pretty much what it was like. 580 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 13: And it was just it was just phenomenal. 581 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 5: It was. 582 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 13: One of the fire emergency control of the told us 583 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 13: the worst he's ever seved from a tornado that he's 584 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 13: very experienced. It's not them's history of tornadoes is not 585 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 13: nearly that destructive as a whole. So that's just amazing. 586 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 13: It's just as totally devastation. Are really feel of the 587 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 13: people that have had their lives turned upside down in 588 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 13: some cases quite literally. 589 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 590 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: Look, there'd be a lot of people just wondering what's 591 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: next and literally, who's going to help me? What is 592 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: the latest information that you've heard from from the local authorities. 593 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, well, at the end of the day yesterday, things 594 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 13: have been clean up with progressing pretty well in terms 595 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 13: of getting with the trees from the from the roads 596 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 13: and getting the power power back on the there was 597 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 13: a numerous poles down broken. Some of the poles are 598 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 13: smashing the little pieces, you know, the concrete poles pieces, 599 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 13: and are North Power doing a great job of putting 600 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 13: it getting the power back on unfortunately, because we'll probably 601 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 13: all be back on by about midnight last night. But 602 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 13: some of the residents took to cutting the wires across 603 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 13: their driveway, which slowed down the progress. Not something that 604 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 13: recommend to treat all wires as live at all time, 605 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 13: please people, because there's no guarantee that they won't be 606 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 13: and we don't need that added to the challenges we've got. 607 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. You know how television always focuses on 608 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: the worst picture, go back to the worst picture. How 609 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: widespread was this? How much? How much of that damage 610 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: was isolated just a couple of very tight little areas 611 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: as opposed to a wider region. 612 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, it was. It was only a relveant, small area. 613 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 13: They said in your Leader about fifty homes affected, and 614 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 13: some of them there's one some of them were just 615 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 13: completely devastate. A handful. Yeah, it was only a very 616 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 13: concentrated area, two concentrated areas, and the devastation was immense 617 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 13: and where it did hit, you know, you couldn't believe 618 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 13: there's some big trees that have been there for well 619 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 13: over one hundred years. It's like flat cars crushed, you know, 620 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 13: and people just distraught. And one lady came up to 621 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 13: us as we were having a look around and said 622 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 13: this if a husband needed when they needed boater to 623 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 13: flush the toilet. And this is suppose what happens is 624 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 13: as like this, I said to the label, you've got 625 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 13: a water tank, Yes, you've got a bucket, Yes you've 626 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 13: got a rope. Yes, we'll chuck the bucket in the 627 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 13: tank and just clearly whereas we can think clearly because 628 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 13: you're coming to the outside and when you've been caught 629 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 13: up in a pre diffuse Absolutely. 630 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: Grant McCallum north of the MP, thank you so much 631 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: for your time this morning on early edition. I hope 632 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: you get some central government support as well. Even though 633 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: it's small, it will be expensive. Ryan Bridges in for 634 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: the my Casking Breakfast still tell us what's coming up next. 635 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: It's early edition News Talks areb eight two six. 636 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early 637 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: edition with Roman Travers and One Room Make Your Property 638 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Search Symbol News Talk. 639 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: V five to six. Morning to you, Ryan bridges In, 640 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: he's got the my casking breakfast Staff to six Ryan. 641 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: No doubt it's going to be very busy for you. 642 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, Yes, very busy morning. 643 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 14: Of course, it's a public holiday in Auckland, but we 644 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 14: won't be worrying about that because the rest of the 645 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 14: country is getting up and going to work. 646 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 4: This morning. 647 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 14: I would talk about and I know you've had Grant 648 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 14: McCallum on the local MP, but we will talk about 649 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 14: the hurricane and the tornado rather than Maunga fire suspected 650 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 14: tornado we're calling it. 651 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: We're also going to look. 652 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 14: At Russia and whether I'm quite interested this morning and 653 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 14: whether the tariffs and the sanctions and all of the 654 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 14: actions that the West has taken over the war in Ukraine, 655 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 14: whether that's actually had any effect on their economy. 656 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: We'll look at that this morning. 657 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 14: Also, dairy, is it in spite of or because of 658 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 14: the fact that the farm gate price is going up 659 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 14: and the dairy trade auction is doing well, that were 660 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 14: the consumers are facing high costs for our milk and 661 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 14: our yogurt and whatnot. So we'll look at that just 662 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 14: after six thirty this morning. I'll tell you what, that's 663 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 14: a very good question about the sanctions. I interviewed El 664 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 14: Gillespie a long time ago and he said sanctions are 665 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 14: just as powerful as warfare? 666 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 8: Are they? 667 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: Is that what we're seeing? Well, exactly. 668 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 14: Russia's economy right now is booming. They've grown more in 669 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 14: the last year than America did. They've grown more than 670 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 14: most European countries have. 671 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: There's a bit of a. 672 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 14: Ruse going on here because it's a war economy at 673 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 14: the moment, essentially, so the government's pumping a lot of 674 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 14: money into defense. Is that artificially blowing things up? 675 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 5: Yes? 676 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: But they're not exactly collapsing. Are they flip the desk? 677 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 7: No? 678 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: What the heck? This is madness More with Ryan Bridge 679 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: and the My Costing Breakfast next, Have a great day. 680 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live 681 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 682 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio. 683 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 5: H