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Speaker 2: on News Talks HEEDB. The Saturday edition for August nine.

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Speaker 2: Happy eighty sixth birthday to Australian tennis legend Rod Labor.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday of my dad too a spring chicken compared

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Speaker 2: to Rod Labor. I'm Jason Pine Show producer Evans Due.

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Speaker 2: We're talking sport with you until three. Big rugby news

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Speaker 2: this week. Richie Moroger is coming home. He has signed

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Speaker 2: an eighteen month deal with New Zealand Rugby from mid

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Speaker 2: which includes of course the next Rugby World Cup. He'll

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Speaker 2: play NPCs for Canterbury before becoming eligible for the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks from next October. Plenty of layers of conversation to this,

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Speaker 2: which I'm keen to have with you. Sir Steve Hansen

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Speaker 2: has a unique insight into this from both sides really,

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Speaker 2: would have seen a bit of Richie more Ogham who

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Speaker 2: then we'll open the lines. Very keen to get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on a couple of aspects of this, in particular

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Speaker 2: other matters around today. Busy old show. Massive game for

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Speaker 2: the Warriors tonight away against the Bulldogs. Win and their

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Speaker 2: Over thirty of New Zealand's biggest sports codes have united

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Speaker 2: with Martin Snedden After one. Adam Peacock updates Australian sport

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Speaker 2: in his regular slot, including the very worrying news yesterday

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Speaker 2: revoked for both their men's and women's team. So what

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Speaker 2: the end of Western United who just three years ago

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Speaker 2: on this afternoon. Plenty of live sport to keep an

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Speaker 2: There be some big news story of the week. Richie

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Speaker 4: Royguard feeds at Jacobson's feet. Now the All Blacks walk

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Speaker 6: He's probably very happy with it.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think he's another quality player. It's available for

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Speaker 6: And we know he's a quality player.

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Speaker 5: He's won many, many titles and you know five eights

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Speaker 6: You need depth to be able to win World Cups.

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Speaker 5: We prepared like you've seen Ardie Severe come back and play,

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Speaker 5: But there's a lot changed up here and the coaching,

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Speaker 6: Quality across all the teams. It's a very very.

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Speaker 5: Well, Jerome was pretty beat up when he left, so

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm sure.

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Speaker 5: If you look at Richie, the same thing's happening with

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Speaker 2: Man management around this Steve, you know every coach has

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Speaker 2: So how does he manage those two before Richie gets

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Speaker 6: Back, Well that's a million dollar question.

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Speaker 5: How well he does that job will really showing how

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Speaker 5: And you know, you've just got to be upfront and

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Speaker 5: and and if everyone's playing well, then it becomes a

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it well exactly.

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Speaker 5: You definitely have to have good conversations and be honest

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Speaker 5: Look, I think their questions you have to ask Bone

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Speaker 5: because but both those young men are good all well,

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't think it's a given that Richie just walks

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Speaker 5: I think he has to earn the right, just like

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Speaker 5: But again, their conversations you probably should have with Razor

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Speaker 2: As Richie really stood out over there the last couple

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of good players here, so you know,

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Speaker 5: at times his performances have been very very good when

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Speaker 5: I've seen him play, and but there's other players that

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Speaker 5: he's been the outstanding player. But again, when you look

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Speaker 5: he's obviously playing well and that's a great sign for him,

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Speaker 2: And after the next World Cup he'll be thirty three.

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Speaker 2: So if he chooses, would he still command good interest

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Speaker 2: back in Japan if he chose to come back, say

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: Well, thirty three is a new twenty three with these

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Speaker 5: looks like they're all seem to be playing forever.

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Speaker 6: So and you know, the recovery and the system of

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Speaker 5: For a long long time, and thirty three's he's just

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Speaker 2: And just on the standard you mentioned before about where

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Speaker 5: Well, it depends really if you allow the club to play.

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Speaker 8: So but.

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Speaker 5: However, with the squads have got and they're training with,

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Speaker 5: But we saw preseason a couple of years ago Panasonic

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Speaker 2: Time, and you got Mark Tolay coming your way, it'd

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Speaker 5: And again it's an exciting time for him and his

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to seeing how he goes. Really appreciate your

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Speaker 2: is Damien Mackenzie feeling right now? He is now staring

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Speaker 2: the dynamics I've just mentioned, and look, knowing these guys,

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Speaker 2: Richie Mooonger will be aware of all of this, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll slip back into that team with no problem.

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Speaker 2: He knows those guys pretty well, he's been around them all.

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Speaker 2: But the spotlight will be on him when he comes back.

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Speaker 2: It'll be white hot because in many ways, Raser is

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number

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Speaker 10: Hello, Glenn hen here you going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good Glenn good.

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Speaker 10: I think you're over eating and yet to leave it.

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Speaker 2: God tell me why, Tell me why.

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Speaker 10: I don't think that anyone thinks to going to walk

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Speaker 10: Try really hard. And it's Ruben Love is the same.

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Speaker 10: You know, you've got to be the best player to

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Speaker 10: be thinking of me turning the house down, the affecting

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Speaker 10: the goal kick. And then they'll just do the plan

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Speaker 10: as hard as they can. They won't sell, they won't

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Speaker 10: they won't take it out on Razor robertson all you're

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Speaker 10: like him better than me. It's up to them to

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 10: It's not get footy than build.

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Speaker 2: Blacks now, you're bang on, and what an outcome that is? Glenn, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what an outcome that is? If you're if

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Speaker 2: you're if what you're doing is encouraging excellence among a

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Speaker 10: It's a great outcome. That's a great outcome. That's it

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Speaker 10: couldn't be better. It's fantastic. Ritchie wrong and might come

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Speaker 2: Good man, Glenn, great to chat mate, You drive safe.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for kicking the conversation off for us eight hundred

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Speaker 2: I think Boden barred, as I said before, wears ten

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Speaker 2: And then you've got Damien McKenzie, who I think still

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Speaker 9: Mate?

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Speaker 12: This is I think this is good news in New

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Speaker 12: if like Bowden, he may get put Will Jordan onto

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Speaker 10: Explosive back line.

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Speaker 12: So it's it's not all lost.

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Speaker 2: No, no, nothing's lost, nothing's lost, nothing's lost. Chris. I

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Speaker 2: wonder you know whether Boden Barred is still a fullback option,

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Speaker 2: You know, Body's still got a lot to offer, still

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Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly, And that's the beauty of this. We bring

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Speaker 12: Because there's something that Body and Datmon don't do. They

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Speaker 13: You can see it.

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Speaker 12: As a proper number ten. There is a proper number ten.

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Speaker 12: We haven't had that since then, can't left. Then we've

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Chris, good points, well made, mate, Good

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Speaker 2: to chat to you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty as we talked Buden Barrett,

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Speaker 2: Be twelve thirty three Just wait for the big surprise

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Speaker 2: next years. Is this text Richie at ten, body at twelve,

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Speaker 2: Jordie at thirteen. That is giving me severe Christian Cullen

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Speaker 7: Hello Jeff, Yeah, my thoughts about all us Zi Mahana.

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Speaker 7: You know he's not the only guy. He's not gonna

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Speaker 7: Damian McKenzie and a few of those new guys. You know,

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Speaker 7: you know we've put a big spotlight on this guy

434
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Speaker 7: and everybody in his.

435
00:23:55,907 --> 00:23:59,467
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree on that he guided

436
00:23:59,507 --> 00:24:03,227
Speaker 2: the Crusaders to seven straight Super Rugby titles. I think

437
00:24:03,307 --> 00:24:06,547
Speaker 2: that talks about his pedigree. He's won the last two

438
00:24:06,627 --> 00:24:12,707
Speaker 2: years in Japan, guiding to Sheba around to rave reviews. Yes,

439
00:24:12,787 --> 00:24:16,867
Speaker 2: you're right. If Richie Moonga wasn't coming back, I don't

440
00:24:16,867 --> 00:24:19,787
Speaker 2: think we need to wail and gnash our teeth about

441
00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:28,627
Speaker 2: our World Cup hopes, but having him there enhances it. Surely.

442
00:24:29,827 --> 00:24:32,147
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Richie moore Unga in your team

443
00:24:32,347 --> 00:24:35,507
Speaker 2: or not? I think the answer is an unequivocal yes.

444
00:24:36,027 --> 00:24:38,107
Speaker 2: What it does open up is the conversation that we're

445
00:24:38,107 --> 00:24:41,827
Speaker 2: having this afternoon about where he plays and what it

446
00:24:41,907 --> 00:24:45,027
Speaker 2: means for the others, what the dynamics are like, and

447
00:24:45,107 --> 00:24:46,987
Speaker 2: whether you can get them all into the same team.

448
00:24:47,547 --> 00:24:49,667
Speaker 2: And I think we learned from the As I said,

449
00:24:49,707 --> 00:24:53,347
Speaker 2: before the Christian Culen playing center situation. Whenever that was.

450
00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:55,547
Speaker 2: It was one of John Hart's ideas, wasn't it. He

451
00:24:55,587 --> 00:24:57,347
Speaker 2: had a lot of good ideas, John Hart. That wasn't

452
00:24:57,347 --> 00:24:59,187
Speaker 2: one of them to try and get who was he

453
00:24:59,227 --> 00:25:02,747
Speaker 2: trying to get on? Jeff Wilson, Jonah Tanna and Cully

454
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Speaker 2: all into the same fifteen.

455
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Speaker 14: Hello Morris, Yeah, you know mate, Yeah, it's quite interesting.

456
00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:13,667
Speaker 14: But you listen to Chris before he's obviously from christ

457
00:25:14,227 --> 00:25:15,947
Speaker 14: because he can't see past Richie.

458
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Speaker 15: But you know, and suddenly saying we haven't had it.

459
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Speaker 14: We haven't had a ten since Dan Carda, will Bowte

460
00:25:20,867 --> 00:25:22,747
Speaker 14: and Barrett playing at ten after Carter got.

461
00:25:22,707 --> 00:25:24,547
Speaker 16: Didn't you get two World Players of the years.

462
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Speaker 10: So it is his pedigree.

463
00:25:26,947 --> 00:25:28,627
Speaker 14: My concern is that I think the Raiser is on

464
00:25:28,707 --> 00:25:31,227
Speaker 14: the right track. And I'm not a fan of Razors,

465
00:25:31,307 --> 00:25:35,907
Speaker 14: but Rich Muhanga, if you look at stats in fact,

466
00:25:36,507 --> 00:25:39,587
Speaker 14: not just what you want. When the All Blacks don't

467
00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:41,907
Speaker 14: win over fifty percent of the ball. My Wunga struggles

468
00:25:41,987 --> 00:25:43,707
Speaker 14: when they're on the back for it against the French,

469
00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:46,387
Speaker 14: the Poms and those big packs.

470
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Speaker 10: He really really struggles.

471
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Speaker 14: He's a front foot player. I don't give any credence

472
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Speaker 14: to all those Crusaders and what you've done in Japan,

473
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Speaker 14: because remember he did a fourteen all blacks. Playing in

474
00:25:55,587 --> 00:25:59,107
Speaker 14: the Crusaders, you get front football, you dominate teams and

475
00:25:59,947 --> 00:26:02,347
Speaker 14: gig wars. You know, even I'd look good behind that pick.

476
00:26:03,147 --> 00:26:04,387
Speaker 16: So you've got to look at the facts.

477
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Speaker 14: When Richie's under the pump in those big games, they

478
00:26:08,147 --> 00:26:09,947
Speaker 14: get to that arrogance in the French when they just

479
00:26:10,347 --> 00:26:12,347
Speaker 14: bash you up the middle and there's not a lot

480
00:26:12,427 --> 00:26:15,827
Speaker 14: of ball. Boden Barrett thrives on that, and that's where

481
00:26:15,827 --> 00:26:18,227
Speaker 14: he's an expactor player. I don't think bode he's got

482
00:26:18,267 --> 00:26:20,667
Speaker 14: a problem. I think Richie could be between the two

483
00:26:20,747 --> 00:26:22,747
Speaker 14: then on the bench, who off the bench, split the

484
00:26:22,787 --> 00:26:25,667
Speaker 14: both and play both together how they played Carter and

485
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Speaker 14: Barrett when Carter was here. And the other thing is

486
00:26:29,787 --> 00:26:31,867
Speaker 14: that you can then enroll, you fallback.

487
00:26:31,507 --> 00:26:32,187
Speaker 10: And on the wing.

488
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Speaker 14: You've got a lot of options. The guy who's under

489
00:26:35,307 --> 00:26:37,827
Speaker 14: the pump en hugely under the pump, and he hasn't

490
00:26:37,867 --> 00:26:41,507
Speaker 14: done this is Damie McKenzie. And I always think, yeah,

491
00:26:41,627 --> 00:26:43,707
Speaker 14: the hurricane lad who's sort of coming into the shows,

492
00:26:43,867 --> 00:26:45,587
Speaker 14: he's not on in this out because he's a very

493
00:26:45,707 --> 00:26:50,267
Speaker 14: very good player. I think that actually that there's a

494
00:26:50,307 --> 00:26:52,107
Speaker 14: lot of positives for this. I don't think there's a

495
00:26:52,147 --> 00:26:54,227
Speaker 14: lot of negatives. And if you look at how Rage

496
00:26:54,307 --> 00:26:55,067
Speaker 14: is picking the side.

497
00:26:55,107 --> 00:26:56,147
Speaker 16: Now you've got the.

498
00:26:56,547 --> 00:26:58,627
Speaker 14: Big cloggie from down the Highlanders, You've got a big

499
00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:00,947
Speaker 14: pack that actually can win the set piece. They're starting

500
00:27:00,987 --> 00:27:03,147
Speaker 14: to dominate the set piece how we need to, which

501
00:27:03,227 --> 00:27:05,147
Speaker 14: is what's going to win games, and we'll still going

502
00:27:05,227 --> 00:27:05,787
Speaker 14: the nice leathers.

503
00:27:06,707 --> 00:27:08,787
Speaker 9: So I think overall it's all good.

504
00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:10,987
Speaker 14: But I don't think richie's a showing and I don't

505
00:27:10,987 --> 00:27:11,627
Speaker 14: think the other guys.

506
00:27:11,667 --> 00:27:12,747
Speaker 9: He's part of the cog is.

507
00:27:12,707 --> 00:27:13,907
Speaker 14: Going to get them to where they need to go,

508
00:27:14,227 --> 00:27:16,467
Speaker 14: and I think that would be very very well laid out.

509
00:27:16,787 --> 00:27:18,747
Speaker 14: But I think McKenzie's the one who's going to be

510
00:27:18,787 --> 00:27:20,947
Speaker 14: sitting say a, do I need to look.

511
00:27:20,827 --> 00:27:21,507
Speaker 9: To go overseas?

512
00:27:22,147 --> 00:27:24,947
Speaker 2: You know, we're yeah, good on you, Mar. It's got

513
00:27:24,947 --> 00:27:26,507
Speaker 2: to get to some other calls, mate, but always good

514
00:27:26,507 --> 00:27:28,947
Speaker 2: to hear from you. I mean, Damian McKenzie's resigned through

515
00:27:29,027 --> 00:27:32,467
Speaker 2: till twenty twenty nine. He's the He's the player in

516
00:27:32,507 --> 00:27:35,667
Speaker 2: the current mix who has contracted the longest he's through

517
00:27:35,747 --> 00:27:39,067
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty nine. Chris asks, since when is Boden

518
00:27:39,107 --> 00:27:40,947
Speaker 2: bardd only warned teen? Much of the last three years

519
00:27:40,947 --> 00:27:44,547
Speaker 2: he's been fallback he has, Chris, maybe I didn't make

520
00:27:44,627 --> 00:27:47,827
Speaker 2: myself entirely clear. What I was suggesting was that I

521
00:27:47,907 --> 00:27:51,227
Speaker 2: think from here on Boden barred is a ten proposition.

522
00:27:51,347 --> 00:27:53,187
Speaker 2: He hasn't played at fullback for the All Blacks since

523
00:27:53,827 --> 00:27:56,507
Speaker 2: Will Jordan came back? When was that South African tour

524
00:27:56,667 --> 00:28:01,507
Speaker 2: last year? From memory is when your Body played against

525
00:28:02,827 --> 00:28:04,987
Speaker 2: England at the start of last year and then Argentina

526
00:28:06,347 --> 00:28:08,987
Speaker 2: think Jordan came back for the second Test, and since

527
00:28:09,067 --> 00:28:12,987
Speaker 2: then it's been it's been Body at ten and Will

528
00:28:13,067 --> 00:28:15,307
Speaker 2: Jordan at fall back. Saying with the Blues, I think

529
00:28:15,667 --> 00:28:17,707
Speaker 2: Body played a couple of games for the Blues at

530
00:28:17,747 --> 00:28:20,587
Speaker 2: full back to start this Super Rugby season, but then

531
00:28:21,427 --> 00:28:24,787
Speaker 2: went back to ten. Yeah, I just he just feels

532
00:28:24,827 --> 00:28:26,307
Speaker 2: more like a first five to me at the moment.

533
00:28:28,627 --> 00:28:32,547
Speaker 17: John, Hi mate, Hey Poiney, Hey, it'll be interesting to

534
00:28:32,587 --> 00:28:35,667
Speaker 17: get your opinion on this. You know, we've had a

535
00:28:35,707 --> 00:28:37,387
Speaker 17: bit of a shortage in that number ten Jersey for

536
00:28:37,387 --> 00:28:40,947
Speaker 17: the last couple of years now, but with Muhoga coming back.

537
00:28:40,947 --> 00:28:42,667
Speaker 17: I think it's a really good thing. I mean, I

538
00:28:42,747 --> 00:28:45,147
Speaker 17: think what we'll see after the World Cup is, to

539
00:28:45,227 --> 00:28:48,507
Speaker 17: be honest, I think we'll see Barrett retire. He's he's

540
00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:50,667
Speaker 17: you know, they're all really really good on the field.

541
00:28:51,827 --> 00:28:54,227
Speaker 17: But yeah, to be honest, I'm pretty sick of seeing

542
00:28:54,227 --> 00:28:56,387
Speaker 17: about playing style. I think he's just a.

543
00:28:56,427 --> 00:28:57,787
Speaker 10: Little bit too afraid of the ball.

544
00:28:57,907 --> 00:29:00,027
Speaker 17: Now, some of the other guys, you know, don't mind

545
00:29:00,227 --> 00:29:03,347
Speaker 17: playing up the ball and getting having those good runs along.

546
00:29:03,347 --> 00:29:05,187
Speaker 17: It is quite good at that, so as McKenzie, they've

547
00:29:05,187 --> 00:29:06,827
Speaker 17: got the eyes, they've got their ability to do it.

548
00:29:06,907 --> 00:29:09,267
Speaker 17: I'm not saying Barrett doesn't, but he just he just

549
00:29:09,347 --> 00:29:12,227
Speaker 17: tends to kick the ball a lot. I'm pretty interested

550
00:29:12,267 --> 00:29:13,667
Speaker 17: to see what some of the other boys have got

551
00:29:13,707 --> 00:29:17,227
Speaker 17: to offer, and especially with you know, Muwanga leading all

552
00:29:17,307 --> 00:29:20,387
Speaker 17: those all those wins over Japan and especially for the

553
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:22,707
Speaker 17: Saders as well, it'd be interesting to see what he

554
00:29:22,787 --> 00:29:25,187
Speaker 17: brings for the next couple of years, you know, even

555
00:29:25,227 --> 00:29:26,987
Speaker 17: though he does have a doubt to you know, jump

556
00:29:27,067 --> 00:29:29,787
Speaker 17: back into the NBC. It'd be really really interesting to

557
00:29:29,827 --> 00:29:31,587
Speaker 17: see what he has to offer for his Zealand rugby.

558
00:29:32,107 --> 00:29:33,747
Speaker 17: And I think what also is going to happen. Is

559
00:29:33,747 --> 00:29:35,627
Speaker 17: I think some of those other names maybe like Ruben

560
00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:39,387
Speaker 17: Love Love might jump onto like sabbatical and then you know,

561
00:29:39,867 --> 00:29:42,947
Speaker 17: body might retire and then boom, you've got two. We've

562
00:29:42,987 --> 00:29:45,507
Speaker 17: only got mackenzie and then we've got Muanga left. So

563
00:29:46,147 --> 00:29:47,067
Speaker 17: I don't know, what do you think?

564
00:29:47,827 --> 00:29:52,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like you. I'm very, very excited to see

565
00:29:52,187 --> 00:29:54,747
Speaker 2: Richie Muonger back in the All Blacks. I think he's

566
00:29:54,787 --> 00:29:58,907
Speaker 2: a terrific player, Johno. You know he's he's a He's

567
00:29:58,987 --> 00:30:02,387
Speaker 2: a perennial winner with the Crusaders and with Tashiba. He's

568
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:05,307
Speaker 2: developed his game. I remember when he left. I remember

569
00:30:05,347 --> 00:30:07,347
Speaker 2: watching him in twenty twenty three and thinking, man, that

570
00:30:07,547 --> 00:30:10,227
Speaker 2: is a good player. And he was all about team.

571
00:30:10,307 --> 00:30:13,427
Speaker 2: He was all about improving himself. He wasn't just a flash,

572
00:30:13,707 --> 00:30:15,587
Speaker 2: not saying an in the mar but he was very

573
00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:18,707
Speaker 2: keen on playing his part defensively. He'd get up and

574
00:30:18,747 --> 00:30:21,987
Speaker 2: make his tackles. He's not a big guy. He's a

575
00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:24,987
Speaker 2: terrific player and I'm looking forward to seeing him back.

576
00:30:25,147 --> 00:30:26,867
Speaker 2: I think you're right about Buddy Buddy be thirty six.

577
00:30:26,907 --> 00:30:28,907
Speaker 2: I think at the next World Cup. So I under

578
00:30:28,947 --> 00:30:31,387
Speaker 2: Johnny Sexton played at thirty eight for Ireland. But yeah,

579
00:30:31,387 --> 00:30:33,147
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think that might be his

580
00:30:33,267 --> 00:30:35,667
Speaker 2: swan song. And yeahber I don't think we're going to

581
00:30:35,707 --> 00:30:37,707
Speaker 2: go on sabbatical mate. I think he'll stay. He's been

582
00:30:37,747 --> 00:30:40,227
Speaker 2: early in his career even to earn a sabbatical, But

583
00:30:40,307 --> 00:30:41,867
Speaker 2: I think he'll be a big part of the team

584
00:30:41,947 --> 00:30:44,027
Speaker 2: moving forward. But put it this way, mate, if the

585
00:30:44,107 --> 00:30:46,867
Speaker 2: Allbokes are playing in a World Cup final in a

586
00:30:46,907 --> 00:30:49,307
Speaker 2: couple of years time, I would expect that Richie mu

587
00:30:49,307 --> 00:30:50,547
Speaker 2: Wonga would wear a ten jersey.

588
00:30:51,667 --> 00:30:53,587
Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely, I completely agree.

589
00:30:54,387 --> 00:30:54,587
Speaker 18: Yeah.

590
00:30:54,747 --> 00:30:57,147
Speaker 17: I mean, well, in the lead up to the World Cup,

591
00:30:57,227 --> 00:30:59,387
Speaker 17: those boys will have as much playing around and running

592
00:30:59,387 --> 00:31:01,827
Speaker 17: around as they can to you know, really get together

593
00:31:01,907 --> 00:31:03,387
Speaker 17: and see what they can do. But I mean, it

594
00:31:03,547 --> 00:31:06,427
Speaker 17: just takes one guy out to then fall short and

595
00:31:06,467 --> 00:31:08,387
Speaker 17: then another guy might be injured in the next couple

596
00:31:08,427 --> 00:31:10,147
Speaker 17: of days before the World Cup or something like that,

597
00:31:10,227 --> 00:31:12,187
Speaker 17: and then we're in the you know, and then we're.

598
00:31:12,067 --> 00:31:12,747
Speaker 9: In the deep for it.

599
00:31:12,867 --> 00:31:14,947
Speaker 17: So it's just good to have some sort of experience

600
00:31:14,987 --> 00:31:16,547
Speaker 17: back on the field again and see what the rest

601
00:31:16,587 --> 00:31:17,187
Speaker 17: of the boys can do.

602
00:31:17,987 --> 00:31:19,787
Speaker 2: Good Man, John, great to chat to you, mate. You

603
00:31:19,907 --> 00:31:22,467
Speaker 2: drive safe of eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You look,

604
00:31:22,667 --> 00:31:25,427
Speaker 2: and depth is important. I mean, anyone remember twenty eleven,

605
00:31:26,547 --> 00:31:28,107
Speaker 2: you know, I mean it gave us one of the

606
00:31:28,347 --> 00:31:32,107
Speaker 2: great stories in New Zealand sporting history with the great

607
00:31:32,187 --> 00:31:34,067
Speaker 2: Man Beaver doing the job for us. But he was

608
00:31:34,147 --> 00:31:39,107
Speaker 2: fourth choice first five. And Rays has been very, very

609
00:31:40,227 --> 00:31:44,667
Speaker 2: forthright about his quest to build depth. We've all heard

610
00:31:44,667 --> 00:31:47,947
Speaker 2: about the four four four four deep in every position

611
00:31:48,067 --> 00:31:51,427
Speaker 2: over four years to win a fourth World Cup. Well,

612
00:31:51,467 --> 00:31:54,467
Speaker 2: if your four first fives are Richie moong, Are Bowden, Barrett,

613
00:31:54,547 --> 00:31:58,187
Speaker 2: Damien Mackenzie and Ruben Love, that's pretty good depth much high?

614
00:31:58,187 --> 00:31:58,387
Speaker 19: Mate?

615
00:31:59,627 --> 00:31:59,827
Speaker 20: Yeah?

616
00:32:00,347 --> 00:32:01,227
Speaker 21: How are you good?

617
00:32:01,307 --> 00:32:01,507
Speaker 2: Mitch?

618
00:32:02,507 --> 00:32:05,947
Speaker 13: That's the one. Hey, I don't like it. I don't

619
00:32:06,027 --> 00:32:09,107
Speaker 13: like it. Why are we letting a guy that just

620
00:32:09,187 --> 00:32:12,667
Speaker 13: wants to go overseas dolls thing and just come back

621
00:32:12,707 --> 00:32:14,787
Speaker 13: and jump straight brick in. I know it's not sure

622
00:32:14,867 --> 00:32:19,067
Speaker 13: and saw it, but how many when we were at

623
00:32:19,107 --> 00:32:22,507
Speaker 13: the top of the world domination for rugby, how many

624
00:32:22,547 --> 00:32:26,427
Speaker 13: guys we are playing overseas and then just coming back

625
00:32:26,467 --> 00:32:27,187
Speaker 13: and doing what they want?

626
00:32:28,187 --> 00:32:32,867
Speaker 2: None? But times have changed much and and look it's yeah,

627
00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:34,307
Speaker 2: you're not the only one who has this view by

628
00:32:34,307 --> 00:32:36,707
Speaker 2: the way. You know, I've heard a lot of people

629
00:32:36,987 --> 00:32:39,307
Speaker 2: with the same view. It's like, okay, well, it's Richie

630
00:32:39,347 --> 00:32:42,547
Speaker 2: Moong's decision to go and play in Japan and benefit

631
00:32:43,107 --> 00:32:45,667
Speaker 2: financially from that. There's no secret he's on massive money

632
00:32:45,707 --> 00:32:48,507
Speaker 2: over there, nothing we can compete with back here. But

633
00:32:49,107 --> 00:32:50,947
Speaker 2: is it just let me ask you this, is it

634
00:32:51,067 --> 00:32:53,627
Speaker 2: now just professional rugby that a guy can play three

635
00:32:53,707 --> 00:32:55,867
Speaker 2: years in Japan, come back for an MPC in a

636
00:32:55,907 --> 00:32:58,067
Speaker 2: super campaign, go to a World Cup and then in

637
00:32:58,147 --> 00:33:00,667
Speaker 2: all likelihood go back to Japan? Is that just what

638
00:33:00,787 --> 00:33:03,827
Speaker 2: professional rugby is now? And are we okay with that?

639
00:33:05,587 --> 00:33:05,627
Speaker 18: No?

640
00:33:06,707 --> 00:33:11,467
Speaker 13: How many sabbaticals, says Damian McKenzie been on one one?

641
00:33:12,347 --> 00:33:15,507
Speaker 13: And why don't we Why why can't we just keep

642
00:33:15,547 --> 00:33:18,387
Speaker 13: them here, make them the best number team we can

643
00:33:19,547 --> 00:33:23,907
Speaker 13: or justine or whatever, and then just keep them on

644
00:33:23,987 --> 00:33:27,507
Speaker 13: that on that track into making us the best team

645
00:33:27,587 --> 00:33:32,747
Speaker 13: we can and run for that World Cup instead of

646
00:33:32,907 --> 00:33:34,827
Speaker 13: just bringing people in and out all the time.

647
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Speaker 2: That's a good question, and it is, yeah, that is

648
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Speaker 2: there is one way they could have gone. I mean,

649
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Speaker 2: let's let's not you know, let's not hide from the

650
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Speaker 2: fact the reason Richie Morgan is coming back. Is because

651
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Speaker 2: raises the coach. That's the reason.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, Yes, absolutely, yes, that's a hard one, that's there.

653
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Speaker 13: I'm a big one on loyalty and I know you

654
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Speaker 13: would be too because you're a big Wellington man and

655
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Speaker 13: that's all.

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Speaker 8: That's all you know that we have to do.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but it's just loyalty. There is none us a lot,

658
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Speaker 13: but it's none. If you get what I'm saying, I

659
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Speaker 13: do much.

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good to chat to you with a counterpoint, mate,

662
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Speaker 2: I've got to move, but make callback any time. Let's

663
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Speaker 2: keep chatting. Let's keep chatting. And like I say, you're

664
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Speaker 2: not the only one with that view, and all views

665
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Speaker 2: welcome here. And they're single people. That's why we're talking

666
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Speaker 2: about it. It's not just just a cut and drid

667
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Speaker 2: Hey's coming back, He's going to play. There's all sorts

668
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Speaker 2: of points. I've got about one thousand texts here sixteen

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Speaker 2: to one back in a sec.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side. Weekend Sports with Jason Paine

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Speaker 2: Twelve and a half away from one steph asks, isn't

674
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Speaker 2: the setting the precedent that they can all go and

675
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Speaker 2: earn big money and come back. I mean in a way, yes,

676
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Speaker 2: not all of them are going to get the opportunity.

677
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Speaker 2: The very best will. But as Gregor Paul wrote and

678
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Speaker 2: as always excellent column on this, is this simply what

679
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Speaker 2: professional sport looks like. Like Richie Morgan can spend three

680
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Speaker 2: years in Japan, return to New Zealand for one MPC

681
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Speaker 2: and one Super campaign, go to the World Cup of

682
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Speaker 2: the All Blacks and return to Japan in twenty twenty eight.

683
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Speaker 2: He's played a blinder Richie Warner off the field here

684
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Speaker 2: and so if he does it on the field when

685
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Speaker 2: he gets back.

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Speaker 8: Hello, Eden, Hey pony, how's it going first time?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Good to hear from you, Eden.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Man, Such an interesting conversation. I think when

690
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Speaker 8: it comes to Richard Muwanga, I mean, he's done it all,

691
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Speaker 8: he's been at the top level for so long. He's

692
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Speaker 8: back to back proves performance. I mean, I think what

693
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Speaker 8: we're only talking about is really the opportunity to be

694
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Speaker 8: selected based on that performance. Well our hope you know

695
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Speaker 8: that experience comes to performance. That's that's the ideal situation.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Dan, Absolutely right. So if he comes back

697
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Speaker 2: and he's and he's good in the NPC, which we

698
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Speaker 2: know he will be. What's your prediction, mate, do you

699
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Speaker 2: think he goes into that ten jersey for the Bledisloe

700
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Speaker 2: Cup for example, next year for the end of your tour?

701
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Speaker 2: You know, if we get to a World Cup knockout matches,

702
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Speaker 2: he wearing.

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Speaker 19: Team Well, I think someone like Richie Muanga. We're talking

704
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Speaker 19: about a world class athlete like one sort of like

705
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Speaker 19: on Lebron James a little bit. As far as his

706
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Speaker 19: own mind, I think he's sort of got an envision

707
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Speaker 19: on how he wants to finish his career. I think

708
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Speaker 19: no doubt he will rise to occasion and probably win

709
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Speaker 19: the World Cup. However that is and you know, Raiser,

710
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Speaker 19: all he's worrying about is in the case of any injuries,

711
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Speaker 19: we've got those players to select from.

712
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, I think anyone if you're the coach

713
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Speaker 2: of the All Blacks, we're on the coach of the

714
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Speaker 2: All Blacks. Like I said before, there's a there's a

715
00:36:37,947 --> 00:36:40,467
Speaker 2: very strong relationship between these two. But if you're the

716
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Speaker 2: coach of the All Blacks and you've got the option

717
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Speaker 2: of having Richie or not having him, it happen every

718
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Speaker 2: day other week.

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Speaker 22: Me personally every day, and I think I'll probably give

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00:36:48,947 --> 00:36:51,467
Speaker 22: him more credit as much as Daniel Carter's sort of level,

721
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Speaker 22: that sort of legendary status, the one they sort of

722
00:36:54,227 --> 00:36:56,227
Speaker 22: hand out to Boden a little bit more. I think

723
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Speaker 22: Richard wang Is and Damian McKenzie's sort of been a

724
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Speaker 22: victim of this, haven't hasn't been given that opportunity to

725
00:37:02,027 --> 00:37:04,267
Speaker 22: take the ship like body has, you know, But you know,

726
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Speaker 22: each coach has their own style, so that's up to them.

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Speaker 2: Really, good man, Eden, Hey, callback anytime mate's been good

728
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Speaker 2: chatting to you. Don't be a stranger. You've got the

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Speaker 2: number now, mate, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: it dos?

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Speaker 9: Hello?

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Speaker 2: John?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, how you go?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 9: Yep?

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Speaker 23: Hey, you just think about it this way, then, the

737
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Speaker 23: more good players we have available to win World Cups,

738
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Speaker 23: the better. Are just thinking about a fortnight ago, You're

739
00:37:29,067 --> 00:37:32,427
Speaker 23: thinking we had three really good young halfbacks and if

740
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Speaker 23: we'd have been heading off to a World Cup and

741
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Speaker 23: not Argentina this week, well, all of a sudden, Hello,

742
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Speaker 23: you got two of your front line. One's better say

743
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Speaker 23: I'm home? Where more depth the better?

744
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Speaker 2: Great point, John? In fact, that's a perfect analogy. You're right.

745
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Speaker 2: When we were watching the All Blacks play France last month,

746
00:37:56,827 --> 00:37:59,747
Speaker 2: we thought, look at us Royguard. We'd have tom hos them,

747
00:37:59,827 --> 00:38:02,867
Speaker 2: look at that magnificent and now two of them can't

748
00:38:02,907 --> 00:38:05,427
Speaker 2: go to Argentina and are in doubt. Well hope them

749
00:38:05,467 --> 00:38:08,747
Speaker 2: definitely isn't Royguard well for these big test matches against

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Speaker 2: South Africa. History tells us that anything can happen. Surean

751
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Speaker 2: Hi mate.

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Speaker 10: Finally, good afternoon. I think we have to look at

753
00:38:18,787 --> 00:38:22,507
Speaker 10: the strategically. If we shut off the overseas sabbatical together,

754
00:38:22,587 --> 00:38:25,147
Speaker 10: we're going to lose more players. I think it's a

755
00:38:25,187 --> 00:38:29,067
Speaker 10: whole funded shoot. Museum has really Rugby has never really

756
00:38:29,387 --> 00:38:31,347
Speaker 10: come to grips with the professional game. We've had it

757
00:38:31,427 --> 00:38:33,867
Speaker 10: for nearly thirty years, but we're trying to migrate to

758
00:38:33,907 --> 00:38:36,067
Speaker 10: where I was soccer. But they've never There are certain

759
00:38:36,187 --> 00:38:38,187
Speaker 10: questions they can never answer. What do they deal with

760
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Speaker 10: their talent? I think it's bad to give some a

761
00:38:39,867 --> 00:38:42,147
Speaker 10: bit of rope. Let them do a sabbatical, or let

762
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Speaker 10: them do it, play our season and come back and

763
00:38:44,867 --> 00:38:46,907
Speaker 10: don't shut the door on them, or else they will

764
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Speaker 10: get bitter and they will want or play for the

765
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Speaker 10: jersey again. We have to be smart about I think

766
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Speaker 10: the ten year plan, and there's stills these questions about

767
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Speaker 10: professions in which we can't we've never answered. The rugby

768
00:38:58,787 --> 00:38:59,587
Speaker 10: unit has never answered.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean the big stumbling block or the big obstacle

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Speaker 2: to letting all Blacks play anywhere around the world is

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Speaker 2: what it will do to super rugby. That is always

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Speaker 2: what it comes back to, Sean. What would happen to

774
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Speaker 2: super rugby if our top players could play anywhere and

775
00:39:18,467 --> 00:39:19,827
Speaker 2: still be All Blacks eligible?

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Speaker 10: Well, there would be a sacrifice, but we do we

777
00:39:23,827 --> 00:39:25,747
Speaker 10: have to make the harsh reality that we can have

778
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Speaker 10: to make a choice between a national team and having

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Speaker 10: a reasonally good super rugby team. We haven't got the

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Speaker 10: population based like England does for soccer, where they can

781
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Speaker 10: have a top range Premier league and a decent national team.

782
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Speaker 10: We haven't got the population to do that. So we're

783
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Speaker 10: going to have to have a hard decision. Maybe he's

784
00:39:43,867 --> 00:39:46,067
Speaker 10: an opportunity. People are going to make a choice. Is

785
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Speaker 10: it going to be the national team is going to

786
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Speaker 10: be Super Rugby? I'm an only NBC now, I love

787
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Speaker 10: to reach your game, but we haven't got the population there.

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Speaker 2: Both, Sean, I appreciate your thoughts mate. Thanks indeed, I've

789
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Speaker 2: got to get to a break. But I would say

790
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Speaker 2: to you, to you about a strong Super Rugby competition

791
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Speaker 2: and a strong All Blacks, I guess I would say,

792
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Speaker 2: why can't we have both? We have up till now,

793
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Speaker 2: and if we win the World Cup in a couple

794
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Speaker 2: of years, then the two things can coexist. With the

795
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Speaker 2: likes of what we're seeing here with Richie Moonga as

796
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Speaker 2: flavoring to the whole thing seven to one back in a.

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Speaker 1: Month, breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails

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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason him News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zenb final text wonderful news is this one? Richie coming

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Speaker 2: back can only be sent as a positive. I'm a

801
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Speaker 2: chiefs man but an All Blacks fan. He's a true

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Speaker 2: ten dmak, a special player, but a fantastic option for

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Speaker 2: Jersey twenty three. Very excited to have Lester fighting Anuku

804
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Speaker 2: competing for the thirteen Jersey. I see a bit of

805
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Speaker 2: Sterling Mortlocke about him. Understand the pushback with players returning

806
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Speaker 2: after filling their pockets, but the joy of winning the

807
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Speaker 2: World Cup out weighs everything. Thank you for that text

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Speaker 2: and all of your text. I'm sorry I couldn't get

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Speaker 2: to everybody. It's a great topic. Well, no doubt, revisit

810
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Speaker 2: it again sometime soon.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest boards issues on

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Speaker 1: and after field, it's all on.

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Speaker 3: We Join Ford with Jason Vye on your home of Sport.

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Speaker 2: One seven on Weekend Sport. I'm Jason pine Bevanda as

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Speaker 2: a share of producer. Today we're till three in an

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Speaker 2: hour we're talking rugby league. Massive game for the Warriors tonight,

817
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Speaker 2: there's no getting away from it really. I know they're

818
00:41:29,147 --> 00:41:33,227
Speaker 2: all worth two points, but the Warriors need a win

819
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Speaker 2: tonight man against the Bulldogs. Tough over there. They are

820
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Speaker 2: also top four contenders, but Penrith win last night nine

821
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Speaker 2: straight by the way, jumped them above the Warriors. So

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Speaker 2: the Warriors need to win tonight to stay in the four.

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Speaker 2: say could threaten the very future of grassroots sport. The

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Speaker 2: government is considering a bill to regulate online casinos and

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Speaker 2: former international cricketer Martin Snedden, is leading the call for

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Speaker 2: re examination of the bill and he joins us now, Martin,

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Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Ever since gambling has been legal

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, all political parties have honored the principle

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Speaker 2: that a share of gambling revenues must go to communities,

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Speaker 2: including community sport. In fact, the Gambling Act of two

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Speaker 2: thousand and three enshrines that principle. Pokey trusts have to

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Speaker 2: give forty percent of their annual revenues to communities. Lotto

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Speaker 2: Gambling Bill?

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Speaker 24: Half known? Jason, I think your introduction summed up a

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Speaker 24: lot of the points that I would make, but I

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Speaker 24: don't understand how they've missed it other than I think

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Speaker 24: what's happened is that the Department of Internal Affairs, in

860
00:44:04,667 --> 00:44:09,587
Speaker 24: preparing analysis to provide to their minister, the Minister of

861
00:44:09,707 --> 00:44:14,827
Speaker 24: Internal Affairs, Brook van Velden, has failed to place significant

862
00:44:15,867 --> 00:44:18,387
Speaker 24: emphasis or a spotlight on this in order to make

863
00:44:18,427 --> 00:44:21,947
Speaker 24: sure that she and then as a consequence a cabinet

864
00:44:22,107 --> 00:44:26,307
Speaker 24: has been properly informed about the risk to community funding,

865
00:44:26,387 --> 00:44:29,827
Speaker 24: including sport funding. And we should always remember that in

866
00:44:30,547 --> 00:44:33,787
Speaker 24: what the pokies do is that sport gets a lot

867
00:44:33,827 --> 00:44:35,787
Speaker 24: of funding as you said, one hundred and seventy odd

868
00:44:35,867 --> 00:44:38,747
Speaker 24: within a year at the moment, But the same amount

869
00:44:38,947 --> 00:44:42,987
Speaker 24: goes to non sporting communities who are operating at the

870
00:44:43,067 --> 00:44:47,707
Speaker 24: front line, who are struggling in many cases to hang

871
00:44:47,787 --> 00:44:51,827
Speaker 24: on there and provide those services. So it's a huge omission,

872
00:44:51,987 --> 00:44:54,947
Speaker 24: and it is I guess I would describe it as

873
00:44:54,987 --> 00:44:58,027
Speaker 24: a breach if it went through as it is at

874
00:44:58,107 --> 00:45:01,507
Speaker 24: the moment, it's a breach of a social contract that

875
00:45:02,227 --> 00:45:05,387
Speaker 24: successive governments have had with New Zealanders over the last

876
00:45:05,427 --> 00:45:13,027
Speaker 24: fifty years. Consistently over that time, the conversation about legalization

877
00:45:13,227 --> 00:45:17,267
Speaker 24: of gambling has been coupled with a tradeoff, or a

878
00:45:17,347 --> 00:45:20,347
Speaker 24: few trade offs, but in particular one that has seen

879
00:45:21,347 --> 00:45:26,787
Speaker 24: proceeds from gambling being allotted to community including sport. And now,

880
00:45:27,067 --> 00:45:30,027
Speaker 24: for the first time that I know of, they're moving

881
00:45:30,067 --> 00:45:33,187
Speaker 24: away from this, and they're doing it without having any

882
00:45:33,267 --> 00:45:36,787
Speaker 24: real consultation prior to the bill being tabled with the

883
00:45:37,387 --> 00:45:43,387
Speaker 24: impacted communities, and that's not great. So once we found

884
00:45:43,427 --> 00:45:45,387
Speaker 24: out about this, and it was really by accident that

885
00:45:45,467 --> 00:45:48,347
Speaker 24: I stumbled across this a few weeks ago, we've really

886
00:45:48,387 --> 00:45:50,907
Speaker 24: had no choice but to start to make public noise

887
00:45:51,427 --> 00:45:54,587
Speaker 24: in order to help the Minister sit up and take

888
00:45:54,667 --> 00:45:56,827
Speaker 24: notice and realize the full extent of the rest that

889
00:45:57,307 --> 00:46:00,147
Speaker 24: this bill was posing to community funding, including sport.

890
00:46:01,027 --> 00:46:03,467
Speaker 2: Is this an oversight, Martin or why wouldn't they have

891
00:46:03,507 --> 00:46:05,947
Speaker 2: put it in there? It's not deliberate surely that they

892
00:46:05,947 --> 00:46:09,947
Speaker 2: wouldn't deny community sport and as you've mentioned, you know

893
00:46:10,107 --> 00:46:13,427
Speaker 2: why to community organizations and arts, culture, etc. They wouldn't

894
00:46:13,467 --> 00:46:18,227
Speaker 2: deny them the ability to benefit from gambling as is

895
00:46:18,427 --> 00:46:20,707
Speaker 2: enshrined as a say under the Gambling Act. Is this

896
00:46:20,867 --> 00:46:21,547
Speaker 2: just an oversight?

897
00:46:22,707 --> 00:46:25,707
Speaker 24: Well, I've read the paper sitting in behind the bill

898
00:46:26,267 --> 00:46:29,867
Speaker 24: and it wasn't an oversight insofar as it went to

899
00:46:30,707 --> 00:46:33,867
Speaker 24: Department of Internal Affairs through to the Minister of Internal Affairs.

900
00:46:34,467 --> 00:46:37,827
Speaker 24: And I think that there was a very brief, pretty

901
00:46:38,267 --> 00:46:42,387
Speaker 24: bland reference in it to paper that went to Cabinet.

902
00:46:42,467 --> 00:46:45,147
Speaker 24: But I don't think Cabinet was given the benefit of

903
00:46:45,227 --> 00:46:48,627
Speaker 24: some proper analysis as to the real risk here, and

904
00:46:49,987 --> 00:46:53,667
Speaker 24: that is an oversight. I think what the rationale behind this, Jason,

905
00:46:53,827 --> 00:46:57,827
Speaker 24: is that government quite rightly are trying to regulate an

906
00:46:57,907 --> 00:47:03,787
Speaker 24: unregulated area with international online casino operators. I'm told that

907
00:47:03,907 --> 00:47:07,827
Speaker 24: over the last five years say, they've built up a

908
00:47:07,947 --> 00:47:11,107
Speaker 24: market here worth about six hundred million New Zealand a

909
00:47:11,267 --> 00:47:14,467
Speaker 24: year now quite right, the government saying, well, we want

910
00:47:14,507 --> 00:47:17,587
Speaker 24: to get some regulation around that, and so that's set

911
00:47:17,667 --> 00:47:21,947
Speaker 24: up a framework to regulate, which has tried to entice

912
00:47:22,027 --> 00:47:26,987
Speaker 24: international operators to take licenses to operate on a New

913
00:47:27,067 --> 00:47:31,067
Speaker 24: Zealand platform. And I guess they've tried to make the

914
00:47:31,187 --> 00:47:36,347
Speaker 24: offer attractive because whilst the government itself will take a

915
00:47:36,427 --> 00:47:39,347
Speaker 24: twelve percent gaming tax plus GST and a little bit

916
00:47:39,467 --> 00:47:43,867
Speaker 24: for problem gambling, I think possibly some of the thinking

917
00:47:44,027 --> 00:47:46,267
Speaker 24: was that if they then, on top of that required

918
00:47:47,467 --> 00:47:52,507
Speaker 24: the international operators to provide what the class for pokies

919
00:47:52,587 --> 00:47:56,987
Speaker 24: have to do, which is additional monies into that could

920
00:47:57,027 --> 00:48:00,147
Speaker 24: be set aside for community in sport, and that what

921
00:48:00,387 --> 00:48:04,067
Speaker 24: might make their offers offer less attractive. Now I'm looking

922
00:48:04,107 --> 00:48:06,867
Speaker 24: at it and thinking, well, hold on, we've got international

923
00:48:06,947 --> 00:48:09,467
Speaker 24: operators who are not based in New Zealand, will not

924
00:48:09,627 --> 00:48:12,867
Speaker 24: base themselves in New Zealand. Once they get a license,

925
00:48:13,347 --> 00:48:16,907
Speaker 24: I will simply enable online platforms to be accessed by

926
00:48:16,987 --> 00:48:20,347
Speaker 24: New Zealanders. Apart from what they have to pay to

927
00:48:20,467 --> 00:48:24,067
Speaker 24: the government for tach, gaming tax and GST. They're going

928
00:48:24,107 --> 00:48:27,827
Speaker 24: to drag all the profits off shore, and over time

929
00:48:29,107 --> 00:48:33,267
Speaker 24: community is going to suffer because over time this is

930
00:48:33,427 --> 00:48:37,707
Speaker 24: just going to gradually eat into the moneies that can

931
00:48:37,747 --> 00:48:41,187
Speaker 24: be derived by the pokies, and as a direct result

932
00:48:41,267 --> 00:48:44,187
Speaker 24: of that, the money that then flows onto community, including sport.

933
00:48:48,507 --> 00:48:52,827
Speaker 2: I can't understand how this has happened. Why would the

934
00:48:52,867 --> 00:48:56,627
Speaker 2: government not want it to be exactly the same as

935
00:48:56,667 --> 00:48:59,907
Speaker 2: the pokies, exactly the same as lotter, exactly the same

936
00:48:59,947 --> 00:49:02,507
Speaker 2: as the tab What are they worried? I mean, it's

937
00:49:03,227 --> 00:49:07,707
Speaker 2: of an online casino operator doesn't want to contribute to

938
00:49:07,907 --> 00:49:11,907
Speaker 2: the country that it's operating within as a as a

939
00:49:11,987 --> 00:49:13,707
Speaker 2: give back if you like, then tough, they don't get

940
00:49:13,747 --> 00:49:16,707
Speaker 2: to operate here. What's the government? Why wouldn't the government

941
00:49:16,867 --> 00:49:18,427
Speaker 2: just just say here are the rules.

942
00:49:19,627 --> 00:49:22,627
Speaker 24: Well, I agree with you. I think that's what should happen.

943
00:49:22,707 --> 00:49:26,187
Speaker 24: And if they say, well that's not economically viable for

944
00:49:26,347 --> 00:49:29,107
Speaker 24: us to do it, then fine, go and operate elsewhere.

945
00:49:30,947 --> 00:49:35,747
Speaker 24: I don't set up a situation which runs a real

946
00:49:35,907 --> 00:49:43,187
Speaker 24: risk of really hurting community, really hurting sports organizations. They're

947
00:49:43,227 --> 00:49:46,147
Speaker 24: missing an opportunity here. Now I should caveat this by

948
00:49:46,187 --> 00:49:49,347
Speaker 24: saying we're only at the first reading of the bill.

949
00:49:49,427 --> 00:49:52,787
Speaker 24: There's now a public process that's going through. Hopefully a

950
00:49:52,907 --> 00:49:56,907
Speaker 24: lot of organizations and individuals that are now aware of

951
00:49:56,987 --> 00:49:58,947
Speaker 24: it because of the noise we've made over the last

952
00:49:58,987 --> 00:50:01,947
Speaker 24: few days, will take the opportunity of putting in public

953
00:50:01,987 --> 00:50:03,627
Speaker 24: submissions and they have to do it in the coming

954
00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:06,787
Speaker 24: week because those finish on the seventeenth of August. And

955
00:50:06,987 --> 00:50:10,267
Speaker 24: hopefully once those submissions are and there's a consistent message

956
00:50:10,347 --> 00:50:13,587
Speaker 24: there which sends a signal to the Minister of Internal

957
00:50:13,627 --> 00:50:15,547
Speaker 24: Affairs that she has to take notice of this, that

958
00:50:15,707 --> 00:50:21,427
Speaker 24: she has to rethink this and honor the social contract

959
00:50:21,547 --> 00:50:25,587
Speaker 24: that successive governments have had with New Zealanders for fifty years.

960
00:50:25,667 --> 00:50:28,067
Speaker 24: And as you said, the Gambling Act is loud and

961
00:50:28,187 --> 00:50:31,067
Speaker 24: clear about this, and that should be a principle that

962
00:50:31,227 --> 00:50:37,067
Speaker 24: continues through this legislation. So I'm hoping that as a

963
00:50:37,147 --> 00:50:44,427
Speaker 24: result of the noise there will be greater realization within government.

964
00:50:45,307 --> 00:50:48,987
Speaker 24: I try to imagine, you know, guys like Art Mature,

965
00:50:49,027 --> 00:50:51,547
Speaker 24: the Minister of is Fort, Chris Bishop, the Associate Minister,

966
00:50:52,067 --> 00:50:55,147
Speaker 24: the Prime Minister himself, Chris Luxen. They love sport. They

967
00:50:55,307 --> 00:50:59,867
Speaker 24: do not want, surely to allow legislation to go through

968
00:50:59,987 --> 00:51:00,987
Speaker 24: that risks this.

969
00:51:02,547 --> 00:51:02,907
Speaker 9: Happening.

970
00:51:03,587 --> 00:51:07,187
Speaker 24: So now's their opportunity because, as I said, I actually

971
00:51:07,307 --> 00:51:09,747
Speaker 24: don't think they were aware of before the last week,

972
00:51:10,307 --> 00:51:13,467
Speaker 24: and I think now though, that the awareness of it

973
00:51:13,987 --> 00:51:16,427
Speaker 24: will be much greater and the realization of the risk

974
00:51:16,467 --> 00:51:18,467
Speaker 24: will be much greater. So hopefully what we'll see is

975
00:51:18,947 --> 00:51:22,987
Speaker 24: good praises followed and then adjustments made to reflect this

976
00:51:23,227 --> 00:51:28,227
Speaker 24: that ultimately will result in protection for community funding being

977
00:51:28,267 --> 00:51:32,227
Speaker 24: inserted into this legislation once it becomes final.

978
00:51:32,947 --> 00:51:35,227
Speaker 2: You said hopeful, Martin, do you feel optimistic that that

979
00:51:35,347 --> 00:51:37,347
Speaker 2: will be the case once all the facts are made

980
00:51:37,427 --> 00:51:39,747
Speaker 2: known to people who maybe weren't aware of them up

981
00:51:39,827 --> 00:51:40,267
Speaker 2: until now.

982
00:51:41,147 --> 00:51:42,987
Speaker 24: I can't get a read on this at the moment

983
00:51:43,107 --> 00:51:48,947
Speaker 24: because I haven't had or haven't started conversations with the

984
00:51:49,027 --> 00:51:52,187
Speaker 24: key decision makers and influences within government. I've now got

985
00:51:52,267 --> 00:51:55,427
Speaker 24: a meeting with the Minister of Internal Affairs that'll come

986
00:51:55,507 --> 00:51:57,587
Speaker 24: up in about a week and a half, so that'll

987
00:51:57,627 --> 00:52:00,467
Speaker 24: be a start to the conversation. But I think there's

988
00:52:00,467 --> 00:52:02,587
Speaker 24: a whole lot of ministers that will be sitting up

989
00:52:02,627 --> 00:52:05,987
Speaker 24: and thinking about this at the moment, and Mark much

990
00:52:06,067 --> 00:52:10,347
Speaker 24: on especial will be too because of their portfolio responsibilities

991
00:52:10,467 --> 00:52:16,427
Speaker 24: with Sport. Another probably will be Louisa Upston, who's Minister

992
00:52:16,547 --> 00:52:19,907
Speaker 24: for Disabilities. Now you know it's not just sport here,

993
00:52:19,947 --> 00:52:22,947
Speaker 24: as I've said, it's actually a whole range of organizations,

994
00:52:23,067 --> 00:52:30,187
Speaker 24: including organizations that look after people with disabilities, and this

995
00:52:30,667 --> 00:52:34,227
Speaker 24: funding from class for poties is essential to their future

996
00:52:35,067 --> 00:52:39,387
Speaker 24: financial sustainability. So they can't afford this to be to

997
00:52:39,507 --> 00:52:43,627
Speaker 24: be pulled apart by this type of legislation which you know,

998
00:52:43,707 --> 00:52:47,307
Speaker 24: on the face of it, it just provides no real

999
00:52:47,387 --> 00:52:51,067
Speaker 24: benefits to New Zealanders. Why set up a framework that

1000
00:52:51,267 --> 00:52:55,067
Speaker 24: enables international operators not to even base themselves in New

1001
00:52:55,147 --> 00:52:58,147
Speaker 24: Zealand but actually use New Zealanders to grow profits for

1002
00:52:58,267 --> 00:53:02,627
Speaker 24: themselves and have a flow on effect which ultimately will

1003
00:53:02,747 --> 00:53:06,667
Speaker 24: hurt organizations that are based in New Zealand that are

1004
00:53:06,787 --> 00:53:08,307
Speaker 24: looking after people who need help.

1005
00:53:08,827 --> 00:53:13,387
Speaker 2: Bang on, bang on. So you're obviously advancing meetings and

1006
00:53:13,707 --> 00:53:16,587
Speaker 2: good to know that that Brook van Velden has agreed

1007
00:53:16,627 --> 00:53:18,107
Speaker 2: to meet with you, and hopefully some of the others

1008
00:53:18,147 --> 00:53:21,827
Speaker 2: you've mentioned will also be involved in conversations. What about

1009
00:53:22,427 --> 00:53:24,587
Speaker 2: you know, your every day member of a sports club

1010
00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:27,747
Speaker 2: Martin our listeners, is there anything they can do.

1011
00:53:28,707 --> 00:53:31,027
Speaker 24: Yeah, they can, you know, if they care about this,

1012
00:53:31,227 --> 00:53:37,147
Speaker 24: and they they can find the link on I guess

1013
00:53:37,187 --> 00:53:40,147
Speaker 24: it's the internal Department of Internal Affairs. I guess if

1014
00:53:40,147 --> 00:53:43,987
Speaker 24: they google online to see our gambling bill submissions, then

1015
00:53:44,027 --> 00:53:46,147
Speaker 24: that'll take them straight to a link. And it's a

1016
00:53:46,227 --> 00:53:49,667
Speaker 24: really simple thing to file a submission. You don't need

1017
00:53:49,707 --> 00:53:53,747
Speaker 24: to get complicated about this. If someone feels passionate about this,

1018
00:53:54,067 --> 00:53:58,867
Speaker 24: just get online, fell In and a few sentences, just

1019
00:53:59,107 --> 00:54:01,427
Speaker 24: I care about this. This shouldn't be allowed to happen,

1020
00:54:01,907 --> 00:54:06,187
Speaker 24: you know, protect community funding going forward. And if they

1021
00:54:06,267 --> 00:54:08,387
Speaker 24: do that, and they're just going to add into the

1022
00:54:08,467 --> 00:54:11,307
Speaker 24: noise that that hopefully then will be enough that governments

1023
00:54:11,307 --> 00:54:14,187
Speaker 24: sit up and take notice and do something about it.

1024
00:54:15,027 --> 00:54:17,467
Speaker 2: I'm glad you stumbled on this by accident, Martin.

1025
00:54:18,947 --> 00:54:19,547
Speaker 9: Yes I might.

1026
00:54:19,747 --> 00:54:22,867
Speaker 24: I mean, I'm staggered that it wasn't really something of

1027
00:54:23,027 --> 00:54:27,987
Speaker 24: major discussion in the public domain, simply because it is

1028
00:54:28,107 --> 00:54:31,267
Speaker 24: such a departure from what has happened in the past,

1029
00:54:31,347 --> 00:54:36,507
Speaker 24: and philosophically, you know, it's a major departure because everyone

1030
00:54:36,627 --> 00:54:42,387
Speaker 24: knows that gambling does cause problems for a number of people,

1031
00:54:43,107 --> 00:54:46,107
Speaker 24: and you know, it's a bit like smoking. You wouldn't

1032
00:54:46,347 --> 00:54:50,227
Speaker 24: you wouldn't let it happen. But in this instance, over

1033
00:54:50,267 --> 00:54:53,507
Speaker 24: the years, there's been discussion and it's been agreed that

1034
00:54:53,667 --> 00:54:56,067
Speaker 24: one of the trade offs is that at least the

1035
00:54:56,147 --> 00:55:01,787
Speaker 24: proceeds from gambling are put into good causes, including community

1036
00:55:01,827 --> 00:55:05,387
Speaker 24: in sports. So yeah, that's that's a principle that should

1037
00:55:05,427 --> 00:55:08,667
Speaker 24: be continued, and that's what happens. And if there is

1038
00:55:08,747 --> 00:55:14,667
Speaker 24: a sensible mechanism put in place in our percentage of

1039
00:55:14,787 --> 00:55:19,867
Speaker 24: the gambling profits is set aside for that purpose, if

1040
00:55:19,867 --> 00:55:22,987
Speaker 24: the right mechanisms are found for getting it to the

1041
00:55:23,067 --> 00:55:25,987
Speaker 24: front line of community, including community sports, and that's a

1042
00:55:26,027 --> 00:55:28,987
Speaker 24: great end result and we will have achieved what we

1043
00:55:29,107 --> 00:55:32,067
Speaker 24: set out to achieve. If it doesn't happen, if the

1044
00:55:32,147 --> 00:55:35,387
Speaker 24: bill goes through in its current form and this omission

1045
00:55:35,547 --> 00:55:42,347
Speaker 24: is not rectified, then the damage to this will gradually

1046
00:55:42,427 --> 00:55:45,787
Speaker 24: become a weird year after year, and it might take

1047
00:55:45,827 --> 00:55:50,427
Speaker 24: a while for it to fully be seen and realized.

1048
00:55:51,907 --> 00:55:57,347
Speaker 24: But it's an avoidable mistake. And people now know this

1049
00:55:57,547 --> 00:56:00,067
Speaker 24: is on records saying you don't have to do this,

1050
00:56:00,507 --> 00:56:04,627
Speaker 24: you can get it right now, So take the opportunity

1051
00:56:04,707 --> 00:56:08,267
Speaker 24: please and do that them. Have it proved to you

1052
00:56:08,427 --> 00:56:13,587
Speaker 24: and then try and classic around and fix a mistake

1053
00:56:13,707 --> 00:56:16,267
Speaker 24: that was absolutely avoidable in the first instance.

1054
00:56:17,027 --> 00:56:19,227
Speaker 2: Good man Martin, good to have you leading the fight.

1055
00:56:19,307 --> 00:56:21,747
Speaker 2: Appreciate you updating this. So we'll look forward to seeing

1056
00:56:22,027 --> 00:56:24,227
Speaker 2: what happens in the next little while as you as

1057
00:56:24,227 --> 00:56:26,667
Speaker 2: you meet with some of the some of the decision makers.

1058
00:56:26,867 --> 00:56:30,867
Speaker 2: We'll stay in touch. Thanks, Jason, all the best mate.

1059
00:56:30,867 --> 00:56:38,467
Speaker 2: Martin's ned in there. Yeah, look, total sense. He makes

1060
00:56:38,587 --> 00:56:42,267
Speaker 2: total sense, doesn't he? Who are the sports that Martin represents?

1061
00:56:42,427 --> 00:56:47,067
Speaker 2: Asks this text thirty five of our biggest one so

1062
00:56:47,227 --> 00:56:50,787
Speaker 2: all of them, rarely the big ones, all of them.

1063
00:56:54,227 --> 00:56:57,187
Speaker 2: And like Martin said, and I can't put it any

1064
00:56:57,267 --> 00:57:00,747
Speaker 2: more eloquently than he did. The reason we are allowed

1065
00:57:00,827 --> 00:57:04,947
Speaker 2: to gamble here is because there is a positive flow

1066
00:57:05,067 --> 00:57:09,867
Speaker 2: on to the community that is enshrined. Enshrined in the

1067
00:57:09,907 --> 00:57:16,347
Speaker 2: Gambling Act that gambling is allowed, but there must be

1068
00:57:16,427 --> 00:57:21,467
Speaker 2: a benefit to the community. Poking machines, they're allowed benefit

1069
00:57:21,547 --> 00:57:25,627
Speaker 2: to the community. Forty percent of their annual revenues go

1070
00:57:25,787 --> 00:57:28,507
Speaker 2: to communities through the likes of you know, the various

1071
00:57:28,787 --> 00:57:32,747
Speaker 2: pokey trusts. I'm sure you're aware of them. Same with lotto,

1072
00:57:32,867 --> 00:57:35,587
Speaker 2: same with the tab They all have to have community

1073
00:57:35,747 --> 00:57:39,507
Speaker 2: good at the end of it. These online casino operators, Look,

1074
00:57:39,827 --> 00:57:42,307
Speaker 2: it's right for the government to regulate them, right it is.

1075
00:57:42,467 --> 00:57:45,387
Speaker 2: It's the right thing to do to regulate them so

1076
00:57:45,507 --> 00:57:48,227
Speaker 2: that it's not just the wild West out there. But

1077
00:57:48,387 --> 00:57:54,027
Speaker 2: there has to be a give back for earning regulation here.

1078
00:57:55,187 --> 00:57:59,867
Speaker 2: Otherwise they're just coming in making money of us off

1079
00:57:59,947 --> 00:58:07,147
Speaker 2: us with absolutely no give back none. So look, if

1080
00:58:07,187 --> 00:58:10,307
Speaker 2: you are of a mind to make a submission, and

1081
00:58:10,347 --> 00:58:12,547
Speaker 2: as Martin said, it's not a difficult thing to do,

1082
00:58:12,707 --> 00:58:16,187
Speaker 2: then I would encourage you to do so. So many

1083
00:58:16,267 --> 00:58:20,747
Speaker 2: of us have been or remain involved with sports clubs

1084
00:58:21,147 --> 00:58:27,427
Speaker 2: and with wider cultural arts organizations, and almost without exception,

1085
00:58:27,747 --> 00:58:36,267
Speaker 2: those amateur clubs and organizations are at least partially funded

1086
00:58:36,347 --> 00:58:41,667
Speaker 2: by pokem machine money. A lot of clubs, you know,

1087
00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:45,987
Speaker 2: rely I was going to say exclusively, that's not the case,

1088
00:58:46,067 --> 00:58:51,387
Speaker 2: but they rely in huge amount or you know, in

1089
00:58:51,427 --> 00:58:54,387
Speaker 2: a huge way on pokem machine money, whether it be

1090
00:58:54,547 --> 00:58:59,427
Speaker 2: for gear for their junior club, you know, new footballs

1091
00:58:59,587 --> 00:59:04,067
Speaker 2: or goalposts or that sort of thing. That is what

1092
00:59:04,267 --> 00:59:07,187
Speaker 2: this money goes too. Because the other part of this,

1093
00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:10,507
Speaker 2: obviously is that if online gambling is regulated here, then

1094
00:59:10,587 --> 00:59:12,627
Speaker 2: some people will choose that. I reguard to the pokeies

1095
00:59:13,467 --> 00:59:17,627
Speaker 2: and so if there's no community good, then that money

1096
00:59:17,707 --> 00:59:20,707
Speaker 2: just shrinks and shrinks and shrinks. And sports clubs are

1097
00:59:20,827 --> 00:59:24,387
Speaker 2: doing it tough anyway. They're doing it tough anyway. Look,

1098
00:59:24,827 --> 00:59:27,067
Speaker 2: you may not agree with gambling. That's fine, that's not

1099
00:59:27,187 --> 00:59:29,507
Speaker 2: what this is about. And there's a few texts coming

1100
00:59:29,547 --> 00:59:31,787
Speaker 2: through here now saying, look, we shouldn't be gambling. Look,

1101
00:59:32,547 --> 00:59:35,227
Speaker 2: that's a completely different discussion and not one for a

1102
00:59:35,267 --> 00:59:39,587
Speaker 2: sports show. Probably what what really is? You know it's

1103
00:59:39,627 --> 00:59:43,267
Speaker 2: going to happen. So if it's going to happen by

1104
00:59:43,347 --> 00:59:46,067
Speaker 2: the letter of the law, there has to be community good.

1105
00:59:46,107 --> 00:59:47,507
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's any other way I can

1106
00:59:47,587 --> 00:59:50,667
Speaker 2: say it. Anyway, Let's hope that we have a positive outcome.

1107
00:59:50,707 --> 00:59:52,387
Speaker 2: We'll stay in touch with Martin stend and here's a

1108
00:59:52,427 --> 00:59:54,987
Speaker 2: good guy to be leading the fight on this. Because

1109
00:59:55,027 --> 00:59:57,467
Speaker 2: it can't go through and it's current form, it can't.

1110
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Speaker 2: One thirty on text. Excellent discussion about gambling. I work

1136
01:01:30,267 --> 01:01:32,987
Speaker 2: for an arts organization that gets funding from gambling charities.

1137
01:01:33,027 --> 01:01:36,427
Speaker 2: We're worried as it will affect our community work as well.

1138
01:01:36,627 --> 01:01:42,307
Speaker 20: Hello Pip, oh hi yah piney. I'm Pip from the

1139
01:01:42,707 --> 01:01:47,747
Speaker 20: Napier Business Association and we're proud recipients of gambling funding

1140
01:01:47,867 --> 01:01:51,827
Speaker 20: to run you know, these our regional street parties that

1141
01:01:51,947 --> 01:01:54,707
Speaker 20: there is no way that we could run on our own.

1142
01:01:54,827 --> 01:01:57,427
Speaker 20: So yeah, we're we're we're really consumed and we'll certainly

1143
01:01:57,467 --> 01:02:01,347
Speaker 20: be submitting because the social good that the parties that

1144
01:02:01,427 --> 01:02:05,707
Speaker 20: we offer in the community are far out way than

1145
01:02:05,987 --> 01:02:09,347
Speaker 20: at we believe that the funding that comes in.

1146
01:02:09,627 --> 01:02:10,867
Speaker 16: So yeah, no, we are.

1147
01:02:12,267 --> 01:02:17,907
Speaker 20: We are worried for the industry because without this funding,

1148
01:02:17,987 --> 01:02:21,787
Speaker 20: there's no way that we can be offering you know,

1149
01:02:22,307 --> 01:02:27,587
Speaker 20: parties or events, I should say, street events that create

1150
01:02:28,267 --> 01:02:30,947
Speaker 20: vibrancy that brings for the ten to fifteen thousand people

1151
01:02:30,987 --> 01:02:31,907
Speaker 20: to our street every year.

1152
01:02:32,347 --> 01:02:35,787
Speaker 2: Oh, you've heard about your party. It's magnificent. And as

1153
01:02:35,827 --> 01:02:39,627
Speaker 2: you say that, you know, without without this funding. How

1154
01:02:39,707 --> 01:02:44,587
Speaker 2: concerned are you that that this will go through uncontested.

1155
01:02:44,627 --> 01:02:45,947
Speaker 2: I mean it's going to be contested now for the

1156
01:02:46,067 --> 01:02:48,547
Speaker 2: likes of yourself and Martin who have taken up the calls.

1157
01:02:48,747 --> 01:02:51,907
Speaker 20: And I think, yeah, and it's great to hear hear

1158
01:02:51,987 --> 01:02:54,747
Speaker 20: it in the media and on the radio, because I

1159
01:02:54,827 --> 01:02:56,867
Speaker 20: think the more and more of us that hear about it,

1160
01:02:57,347 --> 01:02:59,667
Speaker 20: you know, I'll be going out to my membership of

1161
01:02:59,707 --> 01:03:01,907
Speaker 20: four hundred and fifty and saying, hey, here's the link.

1162
01:03:02,347 --> 01:03:07,147
Speaker 20: Send it through. Sends your feedback through Beau because you know,

1163
01:03:08,027 --> 01:03:12,027
Speaker 20: it's worrying for the sports clubs, you know, the clubs

1164
01:03:12,067 --> 01:03:15,387
Speaker 20: that struggle to you know, it's hard enough to get

1165
01:03:15,507 --> 01:03:18,067
Speaker 20: volunteers to put their hand up to do things these days,

1166
01:03:19,187 --> 01:03:23,027
Speaker 20: and you know, if we've got limited volunteer base and

1167
01:03:23,147 --> 01:03:27,107
Speaker 20: limited funding, where where is the fun going to go?

1168
01:03:28,467 --> 01:03:30,027
Speaker 20: We're going to lose it completely.

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01:03:30,547 --> 01:03:32,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, real life example. Pip, thank you so much. I

1170
01:03:32,987 --> 01:03:34,627
Speaker 2: wish you all the best in your quest and I

1171
01:03:34,787 --> 01:03:38,267
Speaker 2: hope you're one of many many in a similar situation

1172
01:03:38,427 --> 01:03:41,307
Speaker 2: who are contemplating doing the same thing. It is a

1173
01:03:41,347 --> 01:03:43,827
Speaker 2: sports show and obviously the reason we got Mark None

1174
01:03:43,947 --> 01:03:46,267
Speaker 2: was to talk about the impact on community sport. But

1175
01:03:46,667 --> 01:03:48,667
Speaker 2: it is much wider than that I read this morning

1176
01:03:48,747 --> 01:03:53,267
Speaker 2: about about the number of community groups who rely hugely

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01:03:53,947 --> 01:03:58,067
Speaker 2: on poker machine money. Pip just gave us another example there.

1178
01:03:58,147 --> 01:04:01,987
Speaker 2: There are so many examples, big and small amounts but

1179
01:04:02,347 --> 01:04:07,267
Speaker 2: crucial amounts. And sports clubs are struggling anyway. You'll know

1180
01:04:07,387 --> 01:04:11,147
Speaker 2: if you're involved in one, getting volunteers, you know, memberships

1181
01:04:11,787 --> 01:04:14,907
Speaker 2: are you know in some places are down, other places

1182
01:04:14,947 --> 01:04:17,747
Speaker 2: they are thriving. But you still need gear and you

1183
01:04:17,867 --> 01:04:23,107
Speaker 2: need funding for trips. I said on the on a

1184
01:04:24,547 --> 01:04:28,587
Speaker 2: advisory committee for New Zealand Community Trust for a while,

1185
01:04:29,027 --> 01:04:34,147
Speaker 2: and the wide variety of applications that came in and

1186
01:04:34,387 --> 01:04:38,347
Speaker 2: just the breadth of what they were looking for money

1187
01:04:38,427 --> 01:04:42,827
Speaker 2: for and the good that it did just incredible. It

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01:04:42,987 --> 01:04:46,827
Speaker 2: can't be. It can't be, you know, put out risk, Colin,

1189
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Speaker 2: I mate, can I go?

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Speaker 9: Mate?

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Speaker 25: Good?

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01:04:51,267 --> 01:04:51,387
Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 26: Listen, I have a couple of nonprofit organizations which are

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01:04:55,907 --> 01:04:58,827
Speaker 26: eligible for funding from Lilly's Commissioner and Gaming.

1195
01:04:59,747 --> 01:05:02,027
Speaker 9: Now what I do is I pay my taxes.

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Speaker 26: Is I believe you all nonprofit organizations should, including Saint

1197
01:05:05,307 --> 01:05:09,827
Speaker 26: John's and religious church. Now my nonprofit organization applies for

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01:05:09,907 --> 01:05:12,387
Speaker 26: funding at least once a month from gaming in my

1199
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Speaker 26: area because eighty percent of that profit from those machines

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Speaker 26: is meant to go back into the community. But we

1201
01:05:19,267 --> 01:05:22,347
Speaker 26: have a very weird law in New Zealand with gaming,

1202
01:05:22,947 --> 01:05:26,387
Speaker 26: and it states that the barman of the licensed establishments

1203
01:05:26,667 --> 01:05:33,467
Speaker 26: cannot direct patrons to applications for funding. You have to

1204
01:05:33,587 --> 01:05:36,387
Speaker 26: research it, you have to go get in there yourself,

1205
01:05:36,787 --> 01:05:39,227
Speaker 26: pick the paper work up, ask the duty manager for it,

1206
01:05:39,587 --> 01:05:42,147
Speaker 26: and then you have to apply. You have to apply

1207
01:05:42,347 --> 01:05:45,067
Speaker 26: and then you also it's a very complicated document. It's

1208
01:05:45,107 --> 01:05:46,587
Speaker 26: not something that's quite easy to do.

1209
01:05:46,947 --> 01:05:49,987
Speaker 2: You've got but it's worth column.

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01:05:50,107 --> 01:05:53,227
Speaker 9: It's worth it. I've sent a couple of Harker groups

1211
01:05:53,267 --> 01:05:56,107
Speaker 9: to the States. I've paid for leagues for the state

1212
01:05:56,187 --> 01:06:02,107
Speaker 9: able athletes. I've sponsored, I've sponsored rugby teams, I've sponsored

1213
01:06:02,427 --> 01:06:06,747
Speaker 9: poverty I have I've spent as the last team years,

1214
01:06:07,187 --> 01:06:10,667
Speaker 9: I probably have gotten about eight hundred thousand out of

1215
01:06:10,707 --> 01:06:11,347
Speaker 9: post machines.

1216
01:06:11,747 --> 01:06:13,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well worth it, Colin. As you say, it

1217
01:06:13,787 --> 01:06:18,067
Speaker 2: is a process that takes some time, and so it should.

1218
01:06:18,387 --> 01:06:21,947
Speaker 2: You can't just give out money willy nilly. But it's

1219
01:06:21,987 --> 01:06:24,787
Speaker 2: worth it. It's worth it more to come on this

1220
01:06:25,427 --> 01:06:28,307
Speaker 2: over the coming weeks and months, and let's hope that

1221
01:06:28,867 --> 01:06:32,267
Speaker 2: sense is seen. Twenty five to two. Round two of

1222
01:06:32,267 --> 01:06:35,947
Speaker 2: the Bunnings MPC continues today meantime four games, including White

1223
01:06:35,987 --> 01:06:40,547
Speaker 2: Cuto against Wellington on the pristine playing surface at FMG

1224
01:06:40,707 --> 01:06:43,867
Speaker 2: Stadium in Hamilton. Graham Minty Mead has the call on

1225
01:06:43,987 --> 01:06:46,187
Speaker 2: gold Sport and iHeartRadio. How's your weather, mate?

1226
01:06:46,547 --> 01:06:48,787
Speaker 27: I look at some but radio of a night, Jason,

1227
01:06:48,827 --> 01:06:51,827
Speaker 27: But it's waken up this morning, dead fine, not much wind.

1228
01:06:51,907 --> 01:06:54,227
Speaker 27: You know how good the grass is down here? But

1229
01:06:54,427 --> 01:06:56,587
Speaker 27: so long as Kj's not listening, we'll be right. But

1230
01:06:57,147 --> 01:06:59,707
Speaker 27: no beautiful afternoon here. I love afternoon rugby, Pinty.

1231
01:06:59,747 --> 01:07:02,147
Speaker 2: Let's be honest on it's the best kind. It's the

1232
01:07:02,267 --> 01:07:04,987
Speaker 2: best kind, Minty, And looking forward to your call this

1233
01:07:05,107 --> 01:07:08,307
Speaker 2: afternoon on Goal Old Sport. White cut All came back

1234
01:07:08,347 --> 01:07:11,187
Speaker 2: from twenty points down to beat Auckland in the season open.

1235
01:07:11,307 --> 01:07:12,107
Speaker 25: How were you?

1236
01:07:13,987 --> 01:07:15,427
Speaker 2: And I gave you a bit the heart failure, But

1237
01:07:15,467 --> 01:07:16,907
Speaker 2: how in peace were you with the way they came

1238
01:07:16,987 --> 01:07:17,707
Speaker 2: back in round one?

1239
01:07:18,067 --> 01:07:18,267
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1240
01:07:18,307 --> 01:07:21,027
Speaker 27: I talked to Floss and Sweeny yesterday and they said

1241
01:07:21,027 --> 01:07:22,707
Speaker 27: the best thing that happened was they played eighty one

1242
01:07:22,747 --> 01:07:25,427
Speaker 27: minutes and they played right through the game. He said,

1243
01:07:25,427 --> 01:07:27,067
Speaker 27: we knew we had a chance, we just had did

1244
01:07:27,107 --> 01:07:28,867
Speaker 27: some things go right and play right through the end

1245
01:07:28,867 --> 01:07:31,387
Speaker 27: of the game and they came home strong. And for me,

1246
01:07:32,347 --> 01:07:36,227
Speaker 27: last round last weekend won't cool rugby. It's just something

1247
01:07:36,347 --> 01:07:39,387
Speaker 27: different again, super rugby, a little bit off steroids. But man,

1248
01:07:39,427 --> 01:07:41,227
Speaker 27: there's some cool co getting played out there and a

1249
01:07:41,267 --> 01:07:42,427
Speaker 27: lot of game players showing up.

1250
01:07:42,947 --> 01:07:45,507
Speaker 2: Indeed at the other end of the spectrum. Aaron Cruden,

1251
01:07:45,827 --> 01:07:48,067
Speaker 2: he started that game. He'll come off the bench in

1252
01:07:48,147 --> 01:07:50,307
Speaker 2: this one. I said to Pie Cook, savare just going

1253
01:07:50,387 --> 01:07:52,707
Speaker 2: to start at ten? Are those two likely to rotate

1254
01:07:52,747 --> 01:07:55,707
Speaker 2: across the season? And that ten jumper well and Lima

1255
01:07:55,787 --> 01:07:56,027
Speaker 2: as well.

1256
01:07:56,147 --> 01:07:58,907
Speaker 27: Lenda Subuana, he's I don't think he's running out today

1257
01:07:58,947 --> 01:08:00,947
Speaker 27: because when he did that the side step, they told

1258
01:08:01,027 --> 01:08:03,267
Speaker 27: me he actually just pulled a handstring a bit. That's

1259
01:08:03,307 --> 01:08:05,347
Speaker 27: the fastest his hamstrings had gone in a while. But

1260
01:08:06,507 --> 01:08:10,267
Speaker 27: they're there to bring some experience and James Tucker along them.

1261
01:08:10,747 --> 01:08:13,507
Speaker 27: Leggy mcgonall, he's standing down. Ross is doing a bit

1262
01:08:13,507 --> 01:08:15,787
Speaker 27: of rotation today, which is it's really good to see.

1263
01:08:15,827 --> 01:08:17,587
Speaker 27: But a couple of young fellows popping up and of

1264
01:08:17,627 --> 01:08:19,787
Speaker 27: course Davia Rowe, who I think has been around forever.

1265
01:08:20,107 --> 01:08:21,867
Speaker 27: Fifty games today, I thought he was close to to

1266
01:08:21,947 --> 01:08:23,747
Speaker 27: one hundred, but so fifty games will work out there

1267
01:08:23,747 --> 01:08:24,467
Speaker 27: for the eight half back.

1268
01:08:24,827 --> 01:08:26,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, special day for him. Did you think he might

1269
01:08:26,787 --> 01:08:28,667
Speaker 2: be in the All Blacks conversation when a couple of

1270
01:08:28,707 --> 01:08:29,587
Speaker 2: those blokes went down.

1271
01:08:30,547 --> 01:08:33,347
Speaker 27: I thought he might have had a sniff Pooney. But

1272
01:08:33,467 --> 01:08:36,827
Speaker 27: you know, he sort of fell behind Cortez Ratama last

1273
01:08:37,347 --> 01:08:39,547
Speaker 27: the season and they were fighting with them, and he

1274
01:08:39,667 --> 01:08:42,027
Speaker 27: was playing great code last year and Courtiz just came

1275
01:08:42,227 --> 01:08:45,187
Speaker 27: a step ahead. I think he's unlucky. We've got too

1276
01:08:45,227 --> 01:08:48,787
Speaker 27: many good half backs around at the moment, and yeah,

1277
01:08:49,707 --> 01:08:52,107
Speaker 27: anyone's got a show because we've probably got six. I

1278
01:08:52,187 --> 01:08:53,507
Speaker 27: think that we could play at half back for the

1279
01:08:53,547 --> 01:08:54,467
Speaker 27: All Blacks and be happy.

1280
01:08:55,547 --> 01:08:58,547
Speaker 2: Ollie mathis now. He played open side flanker last weekend.

1281
01:08:58,627 --> 01:09:00,387
Speaker 2: I see he's on the right wing today. Is the

1282
01:09:00,467 --> 01:09:01,547
Speaker 2: hype about this kid Reel?

1283
01:09:02,067 --> 01:09:05,627
Speaker 27: You know, all day long since I first saw him

1284
01:09:05,667 --> 01:09:09,107
Speaker 27: play first fifteen rugby, I saw him play sevens. I

1285
01:09:09,187 --> 01:09:12,027
Speaker 27: saw him cut people apart and the boys high. He

1286
01:09:12,187 --> 01:09:15,467
Speaker 27: was just outstandingly brilliant. I've been away with the sevens

1287
01:09:15,507 --> 01:09:19,627
Speaker 27: from Britney's now come back with what's going on with

1288
01:09:19,747 --> 01:09:22,187
Speaker 27: the world. But you know he's outstanding.

1289
01:09:22,587 --> 01:09:23,027
Speaker 21: It's all right.

1290
01:09:23,067 --> 01:09:25,627
Speaker 27: The rumble you heard was that some big tall lot

1291
01:09:25,747 --> 01:09:26,187
Speaker 27: just picked up.

1292
01:09:27,947 --> 01:09:29,667
Speaker 2: It sounds like Steve Gordon.

1293
01:09:29,667 --> 01:09:32,347
Speaker 21: V oh yeah, yeah, just arrive.

1294
01:09:34,787 --> 01:09:36,867
Speaker 2: Stephen's great to have you year. What a double agd

1295
01:09:36,867 --> 01:09:39,827
Speaker 2: you two. You'll be You'll be looking towards some afternoon

1296
01:09:39,867 --> 01:09:41,107
Speaker 2: code as well, wouldn't you, Steve.

1297
01:09:41,667 --> 01:09:44,147
Speaker 28: It's just stunning, you know, come come out, the sun

1298
01:09:44,187 --> 01:09:47,827
Speaker 28: shining and AJ's left. kJ has left the room so

1299
01:09:47,987 --> 01:09:49,987
Speaker 28: we can to smoke at the moment. But he just

1300
01:09:50,107 --> 01:09:54,067
Speaker 28: always produces fantastic pictures and this is no exception. Today

1301
01:09:54,147 --> 01:09:57,667
Speaker 28: it's looking looking just stunning in a little little wafty breeze.

1302
01:09:57,707 --> 01:10:00,347
Speaker 28: Blown was it blown? And minty is it's sort of

1303
01:10:00,667 --> 01:10:03,827
Speaker 28: wester we're in size st We're we're.

1304
01:10:03,667 --> 01:10:04,067
Speaker 10: In the box.

1305
01:10:04,147 --> 01:10:07,027
Speaker 28: So yeah, it's Sidney. It's a it's doneing day here.

1306
01:10:07,067 --> 01:10:09,387
Speaker 28: But I lot two good sides pretty evenly matched, I

1307
01:10:09,427 --> 01:10:13,267
Speaker 28: think today, and a lot of mature players on both

1308
01:10:13,307 --> 01:10:16,027
Speaker 28: sides and both camps you know, testing their skills today

1309
01:10:16,027 --> 01:10:17,467
Speaker 28: as well, So I think it's going to be a

1310
01:10:17,507 --> 01:10:18,947
Speaker 28: really well contested competition.

1311
01:10:19,307 --> 01:10:20,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you as I mean,

1312
01:10:20,467 --> 01:10:23,507
Speaker 2: do you think you're any chance against Wellington this afternoon? Minty?

1313
01:10:23,587 --> 01:10:24,187
Speaker 2: Any chance?

1314
01:10:24,347 --> 01:10:24,467
Speaker 11: Well?

1315
01:10:24,547 --> 01:10:26,747
Speaker 27: I actually thought we had the wrong team here warming

1316
01:10:26,827 --> 01:10:30,507
Speaker 27: up because they're in white shirt, white shorts and green tops.

1317
01:10:30,507 --> 01:10:32,627
Speaker 27: I thought men or two had got lost. But now

1318
01:10:32,707 --> 01:10:34,667
Speaker 27: it's that is Wellington and they're playing there in green.

1319
01:10:34,987 --> 01:10:37,467
Speaker 27: You know, has Bucky got them into Marist or something.

1320
01:10:37,867 --> 01:10:40,147
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened there. No, it's very much,

1321
01:10:40,627 --> 01:10:43,267
Speaker 2: very much still the black and gold of the Wellington lines.

1322
01:10:43,307 --> 01:10:45,907
Speaker 2: And you look, I love this about the MPC. You

1323
01:10:45,987 --> 01:10:48,907
Speaker 2: talked about Aaron Cruden and Limasoppowanga, and you look in

1324
01:10:48,947 --> 01:10:51,907
Speaker 2: the Wellington back line and there's Julian Savia and Matt

1325
01:10:52,067 --> 01:10:55,707
Speaker 2: Proctor brother of Billy, of course, Jackson Garden Baship. There's

1326
01:10:55,987 --> 01:10:58,747
Speaker 2: plenty of experienced ten twelve thirteen, but I love the

1327
01:10:58,827 --> 01:11:02,547
Speaker 2: way that experience mixers with youth. Steve and this competition

1328
01:11:02,747 --> 01:11:05,267
Speaker 2: always new faces and new players to enjoy.

1329
01:11:05,947 --> 01:11:08,507
Speaker 28: I think we just saw that last week and you know,

1330
01:11:09,707 --> 01:11:12,347
Speaker 28: playing for the Turbos, you know, he was just mister

1331
01:11:12,427 --> 01:11:15,947
Speaker 28: consistent for them, and then when last week we know

1332
01:11:16,267 --> 01:11:19,707
Speaker 28: Lima for way Katta was great and it's it's great

1333
01:11:19,747 --> 01:11:22,827
Speaker 28: to see that they're attracted back here and playing and

1334
01:11:23,187 --> 01:11:25,267
Speaker 28: I still call it our premier comp This is where

1335
01:11:25,307 --> 01:11:28,747
Speaker 28: where careers are starting to be forged. And to have

1336
01:11:28,907 --> 01:11:32,307
Speaker 28: those guys back in the mix involved and passing the

1337
01:11:32,427 --> 01:11:33,747
Speaker 28: bat nine a lot of them and a lot of

1338
01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:36,667
Speaker 28: them are really happy to do that. In part that

1339
01:11:36,787 --> 01:11:40,147
Speaker 28: experiences that they've accumulated over their footy careers into these

1340
01:11:40,187 --> 01:11:41,987
Speaker 28: young players is as just goal.

1341
01:11:42,747 --> 01:11:44,907
Speaker 2: All right you fine men, look forward to your call

1342
01:11:44,987 --> 01:11:49,027
Speaker 2: this afternoon on gold Sport and iHeartRadio. What Cut against Wellington,

1343
01:11:49,587 --> 01:11:51,667
Speaker 2: Graham and t Meat. Steve Gordon, thanks for joining us.

1344
01:11:51,587 --> 01:11:53,747
Speaker 27: Boys, Yeah, not a problem mate. You realize we have

1345
01:11:53,867 --> 01:11:57,147
Speaker 27: the tallest commentary team in the rugby competition other than

1346
01:11:57,187 --> 01:11:58,027
Speaker 27: we use kJ.

1347
01:11:59,387 --> 01:12:03,267
Speaker 2: Because I had bring the average down, the average down.

1348
01:12:03,667 --> 01:12:08,787
Speaker 2: He hubs it, he haves it. Good boys. Well see

1349
01:12:08,827 --> 01:12:12,227
Speaker 2: your boys, Minty, Minty, it's Steve Gordon, our one and

1350
01:12:12,347 --> 01:12:15,387
Speaker 2: only team from the White Cuttle bringing you White cut

1351
01:12:15,427 --> 01:12:16,987
Speaker 2: the home games and of course they're there for Super

1352
01:12:17,067 --> 01:12:18,947
Speaker 2: Rugby as well, and the Chiefs are in town. If

1353
01:12:18,987 --> 01:12:20,587
Speaker 2: you want to listen to commentary that game with those

1354
01:12:20,627 --> 01:12:25,107
Speaker 2: two gold Sport iHeartRadio kickoff just after two nineteen Away

1355
01:12:25,147 --> 01:12:27,107
Speaker 2: from two, we're back in the mile across the Tasman

1356
01:12:27,187 --> 01:12:28,867
Speaker 2: with Adam Peacock, One.

1357
01:12:28,907 --> 01:12:35,027
Speaker 1: Grudge Hold, Engage, Weekend Sports with Jason Paine and GJ. Gunnerhomes,

1358
01:12:35,267 --> 01:12:38,507
Speaker 1: New Zealand's first trusted home builder, News talks to Bailey.

1359
01:12:38,627 --> 01:12:40,987
Speaker 2: Quarter to two. After two, Monty Betham's on the show

1360
01:12:41,027 --> 01:12:43,747
Speaker 2: as we talk Warriors. I don't know, I'm I don't.

1361
01:12:43,907 --> 01:12:45,707
Speaker 2: I can't think about this game for too long otherwise

1362
01:12:45,747 --> 01:12:47,867
Speaker 2: I get too nervous. I know it's only a regular

1363
01:12:47,947 --> 01:12:50,667
Speaker 2: season game, but it just seems so pivotal to me. Anyway,

1364
01:12:50,707 --> 01:12:52,627
Speaker 2: we can get to that after two with Monty Betham.

1365
01:12:52,667 --> 01:12:55,627
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the Warriors welcome as well. Let's get

1366
01:12:55,667 --> 01:12:59,507
Speaker 2: you across the Tasman. Our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock joins

1367
01:12:59,587 --> 01:13:02,107
Speaker 2: us at around this time every Saturday and today now exception.

1368
01:13:02,907 --> 01:13:07,547
Speaker 2: There's some pretty ordinary weather in parts of our country today, Adam,

1369
01:13:07,707 --> 01:13:10,707
Speaker 2: sounds like it's the same in Sydney where you are.

1370
01:13:11,507 --> 01:13:15,067
Speaker 15: Yep, crap garbage like I've moved to dun Eden anyway,

1371
01:13:16,907 --> 01:13:20,267
Speaker 15: the good folk of Dunedin will be Yeah, I probably agree,

1372
01:13:20,467 --> 01:13:21,387
Speaker 15: just garbage weather.

1373
01:13:22,547 --> 01:13:25,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk some Let's talk some Australian sporting stories.

1374
01:13:25,987 --> 01:13:29,867
Speaker 2: Really worrying news yesterday Western United have been stripped of

1375
01:13:29,907 --> 01:13:33,027
Speaker 2: their A league licenses that's for men and women by

1376
01:13:33,067 --> 01:13:33,947
Speaker 2: Football Australia.

1377
01:13:34,027 --> 01:13:34,107
Speaker 5: Up.

1378
01:13:34,107 --> 01:13:36,227
Speaker 2: They've got some time to appeal, but this leaves them

1379
01:13:36,267 --> 01:13:38,707
Speaker 2: on the brink of folding. What is the story here?

1380
01:13:40,147 --> 01:13:40,627
Speaker 18: So sad?

1381
01:13:41,067 --> 01:13:44,067
Speaker 15: It has been bubbling away for a while for stories

1382
01:13:44,107 --> 01:13:47,107
Speaker 15: of late payments to players and coaches and a lack

1383
01:13:47,147 --> 01:13:50,107
Speaker 15: of super intulation payments and a lack of payouts and

1384
01:13:50,307 --> 01:13:55,107
Speaker 15: other former players still owed money. It's just horrible and

1385
01:13:55,267 --> 01:13:58,307
Speaker 15: they're always playing catch up. Western United when they came

1386
01:13:58,387 --> 01:14:01,587
Speaker 15: into the league, they paid this massive license fee to

1387
01:14:01,667 --> 01:14:04,787
Speaker 15: the FFA then and they said, oh, well, what we're

1388
01:14:04,787 --> 01:14:06,147
Speaker 15: going to do. We're going to do things differently. We're

1389
01:14:06,147 --> 01:14:08,147
Speaker 15: going to set up we're going to build our own stadium,

1390
01:14:08,347 --> 01:14:13,507
Speaker 15: We're going to have a residential accommodation around that. It's

1391
01:14:13,507 --> 01:14:16,067
Speaker 15: a big real estate play as much as anything in it.

1392
01:14:16,747 --> 01:14:19,027
Speaker 15: That happens a fair bit in the MLS in America.

1393
01:14:19,947 --> 01:14:22,627
Speaker 15: Everyone jumped at it and went yeah, but then they started,

1394
01:14:22,787 --> 01:14:25,187
Speaker 15: you know, they got in the caravan and started playing

1395
01:14:25,227 --> 01:14:27,107
Speaker 15: here and playing there, blah blah blah, that the ground

1396
01:14:27,187 --> 01:14:29,427
Speaker 15: wasn't built, the ground wasn't built. Finally they've built the

1397
01:14:29,467 --> 01:14:32,427
Speaker 15: training ground, but it feels like they've got into such

1398
01:14:32,467 --> 01:14:34,827
Speaker 15: a financial amous that they've just basically run out of money.

1399
01:14:35,467 --> 01:14:37,467
Speaker 15: Now I don't know the whole story there, and there's

1400
01:14:37,507 --> 01:14:39,027
Speaker 15: a bit to play out over the next week because

1401
01:14:39,027 --> 01:14:40,867
Speaker 15: they have said that they're going to appeal, so they've

1402
01:14:40,867 --> 01:14:43,147
Speaker 15: got that right to do that, but it doesn't look good.

1403
01:14:43,707 --> 01:14:46,787
Speaker 2: Is there a lifeline here? Is there an avesta who

1404
01:14:46,867 --> 01:14:48,707
Speaker 2: might ride in and save the day.

1405
01:14:49,787 --> 01:14:53,467
Speaker 15: Yeah, Well, when you look at assets understrained like this

1406
01:14:53,547 --> 01:14:56,987
Speaker 15: football club, is the new investor comes out of nowhere

1407
01:14:57,027 --> 01:14:59,947
Speaker 15: because it appeals to them because they know then exactly

1408
01:15:00,027 --> 01:15:02,947
Speaker 15: how they're going to make money. Well, the situation the

1409
01:15:02,987 --> 01:15:05,107
Speaker 15: Alet is in at the moment. This is a club

1410
01:15:05,147 --> 01:15:07,067
Speaker 15: with a small fan base. They're going to make money

1411
01:15:07,067 --> 01:15:09,627
Speaker 15: through merchandise and ticket sales and everything like that immediately,

1412
01:15:09,907 --> 01:15:12,587
Speaker 15: Probably not. Are they going to make you know and

1413
01:15:12,867 --> 01:15:14,947
Speaker 15: came out of coin. Are they going to make money

1414
01:15:15,107 --> 01:15:18,947
Speaker 15: through TV rights and overall marketing authority? Probably not? Are

1415
01:15:18,947 --> 01:15:22,467
Speaker 15: they going to make money through bayofls? Potentially They've got

1416
01:15:22,507 --> 01:15:25,307
Speaker 15: a good crop of young players. But that's you know,

1417
01:15:25,427 --> 01:15:27,507
Speaker 15: that that's up in the wings. That is you can't

1418
01:15:27,587 --> 01:15:30,827
Speaker 15: get that's not guaranteed revenue. So when I say that

1419
01:15:30,947 --> 01:15:32,307
Speaker 15: is there going to be a white night? I mean

1420
01:15:32,387 --> 01:15:35,827
Speaker 15: it doesn't look great. It absolutely doesn't look great. And

1421
01:15:36,107 --> 01:15:37,667
Speaker 15: they thought they had that a couple of months ago

1422
01:15:37,747 --> 01:15:41,027
Speaker 15: when an American real estate art came in and allegedly

1423
01:15:41,147 --> 01:15:43,507
Speaker 15: bought them. But there's been no proof of funds and

1424
01:15:43,667 --> 01:15:46,267
Speaker 15: this mob have been through this before overseas and been

1425
01:15:46,347 --> 01:15:49,587
Speaker 15: run out of town. So yeah, it's not looking good

1426
01:15:49,747 --> 01:15:50,107
Speaker 15: at all.

1427
01:15:50,347 --> 01:15:52,307
Speaker 2: This is a cursory tale, isn't it. Because they've been

1428
01:15:52,467 --> 01:15:54,667
Speaker 2: good on the field. They won the whole thing three

1429
01:15:54,747 --> 01:15:56,667
Speaker 2: years ago, they made the semi finals last year and

1430
01:15:56,707 --> 01:15:59,187
Speaker 2: the men the women have played a Grand final. So

1431
01:15:59,347 --> 01:16:02,587
Speaker 2: clearly the on field success is not an indicator of

1432
01:16:03,347 --> 01:16:05,067
Speaker 2: financial liquidity.

1433
01:16:05,707 --> 01:16:07,747
Speaker 15: Is This is the really sad thing about it, because

1434
01:16:07,787 --> 01:16:10,667
Speaker 15: there are good football people involved, starting with John Olwissi,

1435
01:16:10,987 --> 01:16:13,027
Speaker 15: and they've got a good women's program as well. They've

1436
01:16:13,027 --> 01:16:15,547
Speaker 15: got a good academy that are bringing through young players

1437
01:16:15,587 --> 01:16:19,227
Speaker 15: in the Western Melbourne. It's a good football story there,

1438
01:16:19,387 --> 01:16:21,427
Speaker 15: but the business side of things has let them down

1439
01:16:21,627 --> 01:16:24,427
Speaker 15: and That's where I feel really sorry for the people

1440
01:16:24,507 --> 01:16:27,387
Speaker 15: involved as well as the fans. That the people who

1441
01:16:27,427 --> 01:16:29,947
Speaker 15: are running the club behind the scenes that've got it right,

1442
01:16:30,667 --> 01:16:33,547
Speaker 15: they're doing the right thing, but they've just been let

1443
01:16:33,627 --> 01:16:35,667
Speaker 15: down by the bottom line and I don't know how

1444
01:16:35,707 --> 01:16:36,267
Speaker 15: they get out of it.

1445
01:16:36,547 --> 01:16:38,467
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that they find a way. Otherwise we're

1446
01:16:38,467 --> 01:16:40,907
Speaker 2: staring down the barrel of a twelve team a league

1447
01:16:40,947 --> 01:16:45,387
Speaker 2: means and a reduced women's competition as well. We'll keep

1448
01:16:45,427 --> 01:16:47,947
Speaker 2: our fingers crossed all the matters around on your side

1449
01:16:47,947 --> 01:16:49,427
Speaker 2: of the Tasman. The Wallaby's off the back of the

1450
01:16:49,547 --> 01:16:54,067
Speaker 2: British and Irish Lions series defeat have shelved the guitar law.

1451
01:16:54,227 --> 01:16:57,267
Speaker 2: So presumably now you can play anywhere in the world

1452
01:16:57,427 --> 01:16:59,867
Speaker 2: and still be eligible to play rugby for Australia.

1453
01:16:59,987 --> 01:17:01,387
Speaker 9: Is that right? Yeah?

1454
01:17:01,627 --> 01:17:05,787
Speaker 15: And coming at it from where my bread is buttered

1455
01:17:05,827 --> 01:17:08,387
Speaker 15: mainly the football world, I can't believe this was a

1456
01:17:08,507 --> 01:17:11,107
Speaker 15: fee in the first place. Like I get you know,

1457
01:17:11,267 --> 01:17:12,947
Speaker 15: you want to make your super rugby teams as strong

1458
01:17:12,987 --> 01:17:15,867
Speaker 15: as possible and this is probably throwing back to the

1459
01:17:15,987 --> 01:17:18,827
Speaker 15: power of the states in Australian rugby that no, we want,

1460
01:17:18,867 --> 01:17:21,227
Speaker 15: we want our best and they shouldn't deserve a spot

1461
01:17:21,267 --> 01:17:24,827
Speaker 15: if they nick off overseas and by bah, those days

1462
01:17:24,827 --> 01:17:27,667
Speaker 15: are gone. But you're going to make your best money

1463
01:17:28,227 --> 01:17:32,587
Speaker 15: by as a rugby union player in Australia by going overseas,

1464
01:17:32,867 --> 01:17:36,147
Speaker 15: and that's where the big pot of money is at

1465
01:17:36,187 --> 01:17:39,107
Speaker 15: that level, at provincial level, club level. So it's just

1466
01:17:39,227 --> 01:17:42,587
Speaker 15: ludicrous to think that you can go on this way

1467
01:17:42,627 --> 01:17:45,187
Speaker 15: and then have a competitive baller beside a consistent basis.

1468
01:17:45,187 --> 01:17:46,667
Speaker 15: So I'm glad it's gone all right.

1469
01:17:46,587 --> 01:17:50,227
Speaker 2: Different over here. Obviously, we continue to have eligibility discussion.

1470
01:17:50,427 --> 01:17:53,067
Speaker 2: We've been having it this afternoon, so be interesting to

1471
01:17:53,147 --> 01:17:55,947
Speaker 2: see what it does to the Australian sides and super

1472
01:17:56,027 --> 01:18:00,227
Speaker 2: rugby and your latest inductees into the Sport Australia Hall

1473
01:18:00,267 --> 01:18:03,587
Speaker 2: of Fame. This is a glittering array of sports people

1474
01:18:03,827 --> 01:18:05,907
Speaker 2: who are some of the features of the latest inductions.

1475
01:18:06,387 --> 01:18:08,027
Speaker 15: He was a great Mars Shawtz is there the most

1476
01:18:08,067 --> 01:18:10,867
Speaker 15: cap soccer U of all time. So that's great kind

1477
01:18:10,907 --> 01:18:12,587
Speaker 15: of looking at it and you go, how is it

1478
01:18:12,627 --> 01:18:14,667
Speaker 15: he in it in the first place? That no, he's

1479
01:18:15,227 --> 01:18:18,387
Speaker 15: he's been inducted and he'll get inducted pretty much. I'll

1480
01:18:18,427 --> 01:18:21,067
Speaker 15: have a ceremony in Melbourne pretty much twenty years to

1481
01:18:21,147 --> 01:18:24,187
Speaker 15: the day since the Uruguay game was the most thirty

1482
01:18:24,467 --> 01:18:26,827
Speaker 15: years of non compete at the World Cup and he

1483
01:18:27,587 --> 01:18:29,307
Speaker 15: was a massive If not for him, we don't go

1484
01:18:29,387 --> 01:18:34,187
Speaker 15: through potentially. So yeah, himself, Camera Smith, the great rugy

1485
01:18:34,267 --> 01:18:37,267
Speaker 15: League player of the four hundred games, mast Caps, NRL

1486
01:18:37,347 --> 01:18:40,667
Speaker 15: player of all time, tour Bright Olympic gold medal of snowboarder.

1487
01:18:41,307 --> 01:18:42,307
Speaker 9: She is in.

1488
01:18:43,227 --> 01:18:46,907
Speaker 15: Jason Dunstill is that AFL player, and yeah, a few

1489
01:18:46,947 --> 01:18:48,707
Speaker 15: others as well, which is which is great to see.

1490
01:18:48,747 --> 01:18:50,227
Speaker 15: But good to see Mark Shawts to get a call

1491
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Speaker 15: up there. Late Hewitt as well, late Heward they call

1492
01:18:52,947 --> 01:18:54,827
Speaker 15: up too, So yeah, it's a big thing over here

1493
01:18:54,867 --> 01:18:57,067
Speaker 15: and we celebrate our greatest moment in sport for the

1494
01:18:57,147 --> 01:18:59,587
Speaker 15: year and yeah it's a really cool night.

1495
01:18:59,787 --> 01:19:03,027
Speaker 2: Awesome Rod Laver's eighty six birthday today and on this

1496
01:19:03,187 --> 01:19:04,107
Speaker 2: hope for a ship mate.

1497
01:19:04,787 --> 01:19:07,547
Speaker 15: Yeah exactly, what a what a legend and it's good

1498
01:19:07,587 --> 01:19:10,027
Speaker 15: to seem still going to tennis events as well because

1499
01:19:10,027 --> 01:19:12,467
Speaker 15: everyone gets to pop out of that. So yeah, we're

1500
01:19:12,467 --> 01:19:15,587
Speaker 15: speaking of Australian sporting legends. And yeah he's in the

1501
01:19:15,667 --> 01:19:16,147
Speaker 15: curd final.

1502
01:19:16,267 --> 01:19:18,667
Speaker 2: There's one right there all. I hope your weather improved. Mate,

1503
01:19:18,707 --> 01:19:23,227
Speaker 2: We'll cheat again next Saturday. Jeez MATEO feet cock out

1504
01:19:23,267 --> 01:19:26,347
Speaker 2: of Australia as a wet and soggy Sydney. I wonder

1505
01:19:26,347 --> 01:19:29,307
Speaker 2: if that I have an impact on tonight's rugby league

1506
01:19:29,307 --> 01:19:32,347
Speaker 2: Action Warriors Bulldogs. I don't know who a wet field

1507
01:19:32,427 --> 01:19:36,027
Speaker 2: actually benefits. Really, I'm not sure benefits anybody. Let's hope

1508
01:19:36,067 --> 01:19:39,387
Speaker 2: that it's okay when that game gets underway nine thirty tonight.

1509
01:19:39,467 --> 01:19:42,147
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock part of our Saturday's around this time on

1510
01:19:42,427 --> 01:19:43,867
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport eight and a half to two.

1511
01:19:43,907 --> 01:19:47,827
Speaker 1: Back in the month's good from the track, field and

1512
01:19:47,947 --> 01:19:51,227
Speaker 1: the court on your home of Sport, Weekend Sport with

1513
01:19:51,547 --> 01:19:53,067
Speaker 1: Jason talks in.

1514
01:19:53,107 --> 01:19:55,987
Speaker 2: Me coming up five and a half to two. A

1515
01:19:56,067 --> 01:20:00,067
Speaker 2: major Super Rugby announcement is coming in christ Church on

1516
01:20:00,267 --> 01:20:03,667
Speaker 2: Monday morning. Media have been invited to attend a major

1517
01:20:03,667 --> 01:20:06,587
Speaker 2: competition announcement at one New Zealand Stadium at T huh

1518
01:20:07,107 --> 01:20:08,347
Speaker 2: christ Church Monday.

1519
01:20:08,467 --> 01:20:08,587
Speaker 6: Now.

1520
01:20:08,627 --> 01:20:12,547
Speaker 2: You might remember Super Rugby CEO Jack Mesley when he

1521
01:20:12,667 --> 01:20:15,147
Speaker 2: joined us on the show back in early June. But

1522
01:20:15,267 --> 01:20:18,547
Speaker 2: a chat about a possible Super Round in Canterbury. Anything

1523
01:20:18,987 --> 01:20:19,347
Speaker 2: you can.

1524
01:20:19,347 --> 01:20:22,627
Speaker 29: Tell us Jack, Yeah, we're working really hard to make

1525
01:20:22,707 --> 01:20:25,747
Speaker 29: that a reality. So I think it'd be such a

1526
01:20:25,787 --> 01:20:29,027
Speaker 29: great event to bring all of Super Rugby down to

1527
01:20:29,147 --> 01:20:32,307
Speaker 29: christ Church to help open that amazing stadium.

1528
01:20:32,907 --> 01:20:36,147
Speaker 25: So yeah, we're working hard on that. We're working hard

1529
01:20:36,227 --> 01:20:39,387
Speaker 25: with a number of government bodies to make that a

1530
01:20:39,467 --> 01:20:42,987
Speaker 25: reality and we really hope that things can come off

1531
01:20:43,027 --> 01:20:45,067
Speaker 25: and that we can announce that soon. It had been

1532
01:20:45,107 --> 01:20:47,787
Speaker 25: in around the ANZAC weekend as well, which I think

1533
01:20:47,827 --> 01:20:49,867
Speaker 25: we'll just be a fantastic event.

1534
01:20:50,027 --> 01:20:52,147
Speaker 2: So that was Jack Mesley speaking on the show back

1535
01:20:52,227 --> 01:20:55,547
Speaker 2: in June. As I say, an announcement coming of a

1536
01:20:55,667 --> 01:20:59,347
Speaker 2: significant innovation around Super Rugby on Monday, it have to

1537
01:20:59,387 --> 01:21:02,347
Speaker 2: be that, wouldn't it have to be Anzac weekend next year?

1538
01:21:02,387 --> 01:21:05,747
Speaker 2: Accidentally Friday twenty four, Saturday twenty five and Sunday twenty

1539
01:21:05,747 --> 01:21:09,787
Speaker 2: six April this year, those dates were round eleven of

1540
01:21:09,867 --> 01:21:13,467
Speaker 2: Super Rakby, so that seems to fit. Te Car's estimated

1541
01:21:13,507 --> 01:21:17,027
Speaker 2: opening date is March April. I wonder whether this would

1542
01:21:17,067 --> 01:21:20,187
Speaker 2: be the event that actually opens the stadium. I've heard

1543
01:21:20,267 --> 01:21:22,987
Speaker 2: varying reports about what they want to have as the

1544
01:21:23,107 --> 01:21:28,907
Speaker 2: first event there, but by ANZAC weekend back end of April,

1545
01:21:28,987 --> 01:21:31,787
Speaker 2: you think it'll be open, So yeah, if you are

1546
01:21:32,907 --> 01:21:37,227
Speaker 2: of a mind to attend super Round when it by

1547
01:21:37,267 --> 01:21:40,627
Speaker 2: all accounts Lands and christ Church, then yeah. Weekend of

1548
01:21:40,627 --> 01:21:43,707
Speaker 2: Friday Friday twenty fourth through Sunday twenty sixth April, with

1549
01:21:43,827 --> 01:21:45,987
Speaker 2: Anzac down the twenty fifth, of course, might be a

1550
01:21:46,067 --> 01:21:48,547
Speaker 2: good time to check out some accommodation and some flights

1551
01:21:48,587 --> 01:21:52,347
Speaker 2: to christ Church official confirmation. By the way, on Monday

1552
01:21:52,827 --> 01:21:56,387
Speaker 2: after two, Monty Betham and I want your your read

1553
01:21:57,467 --> 01:21:59,387
Speaker 2: on Warrior's Optimism.

1554
01:22:01,027 --> 01:22:03,827
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1555
01:22:04,307 --> 01:22:07,227
Speaker 1: and after Fields on Wi Jon.

1556
01:22:07,187 --> 01:22:10,867
Speaker 3: Sport with Jason Vaide on your home of Sports.

1557
01:22:14,347 --> 01:22:17,267
Speaker 2: Seven on Weekend Sport, I'm Jason Pinebevin jew At producing

1558
01:22:17,347 --> 01:22:19,627
Speaker 2: the show. We're here for another hour. Then Tim Beveridge

1559
01:22:19,667 --> 01:22:22,827
Speaker 2: takes over weekend Collective Saturday edition. Quite a bit to

1560
01:22:22,867 --> 01:22:25,827
Speaker 2: get through between now and then. Stephen Bunting, the world's

1561
01:22:25,907 --> 01:22:29,747
Speaker 2: number four darts player. He's in Australia the moment headed

1562
01:22:29,787 --> 01:22:32,787
Speaker 2: our way next weekend as part of a glittering array

1563
01:22:32,867 --> 01:22:36,547
Speaker 2: of the top darts players in the world. Luke Littler's coming,

1564
01:22:36,667 --> 01:22:39,667
Speaker 2: Luke Humphrey's current world number one girlin Price and Stephen

1565
01:22:39,707 --> 01:22:43,307
Speaker 2: Bunting among others for the New Zealand Darts Masters. Stephen

1566
01:22:43,347 --> 01:22:47,347
Speaker 2: Bunting and to join us actually around two to chat

1567
01:22:47,907 --> 01:22:50,427
Speaker 2: about his year which has been very, very good. It's

1568
01:22:50,467 --> 01:22:52,507
Speaker 2: got a couple of wins already this year, was a

1569
01:22:52,587 --> 01:22:56,187
Speaker 2: semi finalist at the World Darts Championship right at the

1570
01:22:56,227 --> 01:22:58,107
Speaker 2: start of twenty twenty five. Why is it going so

1571
01:22:58,227 --> 01:23:01,107
Speaker 2: well for them? Monty beat them on the rugby league

1572
01:23:01,107 --> 01:23:05,187
Speaker 2: as well, and we'll play sporting chants, your chance to

1573
01:23:05,267 --> 01:23:09,307
Speaker 2: place a bonus bet at the tab and and enjoy

1574
01:23:09,347 --> 01:23:12,707
Speaker 2: the winnings if in fact you make it astute bet.

1575
01:23:12,867 --> 01:23:14,867
Speaker 2: More details to come on that. I do want to

1576
01:23:14,907 --> 01:23:16,987
Speaker 2: read your pulse on the Warriors as well, either on

1577
01:23:17,067 --> 01:23:19,587
Speaker 2: the phone or via text. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1578
01:23:19,627 --> 01:23:21,827
Speaker 2: ten eighty remains our number. Ninety two ninety two of

1579
01:23:21,947 --> 01:23:25,307
Speaker 2: course is our number for text messages and lots of

1580
01:23:25,347 --> 01:23:27,827
Speaker 2: live sport to keeping on as well. North Harbor and

1581
01:23:27,867 --> 01:23:30,307
Speaker 2: Tartanucky have just kicked off at Albany, as have White

1582
01:23:30,347 --> 01:23:33,467
Speaker 2: Cuttle and Wellington in Hamilton. That's in the NBC and

1583
01:23:33,507 --> 01:23:37,427
Speaker 2: in the Farah Palmer Cup games between Auckland and White

1584
01:23:37,467 --> 01:23:41,347
Speaker 2: Cuttle Tartanucky in Northland, Tasman and Wellington all underway, so

1585
01:23:41,787 --> 01:23:44,827
Speaker 2: we'll update you on scores from those matches as well.

1586
01:23:44,947 --> 01:23:47,467
Speaker 2: But as we always do it around about this time

1587
01:23:47,547 --> 01:23:50,267
Speaker 2: on weekend Sport, it's time to get you across some

1588
01:23:50,347 --> 01:23:52,147
Speaker 2: of the stuff that you may have missed over the

1589
01:23:52,227 --> 01:23:55,027
Speaker 2: last little while. It's in case you missed. It's starting

1590
01:23:55,107 --> 01:23:58,547
Speaker 2: in Zimbabwe where the Black Caps have taken a very

1591
01:23:58,947 --> 01:24:02,387
Speaker 2: firm grip on the second and final cricket Test against

1592
01:24:02,507 --> 01:24:07,107
Speaker 2: Zimbabwe and Bulawayo it stumps on day two they are

1593
01:24:07,227 --> 01:24:10,747
Speaker 2: six hundred and one for three. That is a massive

1594
01:24:10,827 --> 01:24:14,987
Speaker 2: lead of four hundred and seventy six runs centuries to

1595
01:24:15,307 --> 01:24:16,107
Speaker 2: Devon Conway.

1596
01:24:17,467 --> 01:24:20,627
Speaker 30: Not there though, the half folly down the ground and

1597
01:24:20,747 --> 01:24:24,707
Speaker 30: a Test hundred for Devon Conway are terrific innings is.

1598
01:24:24,867 --> 01:24:28,427
Speaker 1: Fifth Test hundred and he continues to dominate the Zababwe

1599
01:24:28,467 --> 01:24:29,227
Speaker 1: and bowling.

1600
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Speaker 2: One for Henry Nichols.

1601
01:24:30,547 --> 01:24:35,467
Speaker 31: There we go another main feature star of the show today,

1602
01:24:35,747 --> 01:24:38,587
Speaker 31: Henry Nichols as he goes to one hundred, one hundred

1603
01:24:38,627 --> 01:24:40,907
Speaker 31: and two tenth in Test matches.

1604
01:24:40,747 --> 01:24:43,747
Speaker 2: And for rchen Revendra running.

1605
01:24:43,427 --> 01:24:46,307
Speaker 30: With the shot, he'll make it comfortably in another Test hundred.

1606
01:24:46,507 --> 01:24:49,547
Speaker 30: Rich In Revenger his third in Test match cricket and

1607
01:24:49,667 --> 01:24:51,227
Speaker 30: it comes at double quick speed.

1608
01:24:51,747 --> 01:24:54,467
Speaker 2: So day three underway at around eight o'clock tonight. Will

1609
01:24:54,467 --> 01:24:57,747
Speaker 2: New Zealand pull out and trying bowls and babewe out

1610
01:24:57,787 --> 01:24:59,787
Speaker 2: for another three day test or they just bat on.

1611
01:25:00,707 --> 01:25:02,547
Speaker 2: They could get anything. They could get a thousand if

1612
01:25:02,547 --> 01:25:05,147
Speaker 2: they beat on. Henry Nichols and Ruch and Revendra are

1613
01:25:05,187 --> 01:25:09,627
Speaker 2: still batting. The English football season is underway, Birmingham hosting

1614
01:25:09,747 --> 01:25:14,107
Speaker 2: Ipswich Town to begin the second tier championship season. The

1615
01:25:14,187 --> 01:25:16,227
Speaker 2: home side went ahead early in the second half.

1616
01:25:16,387 --> 01:25:21,067
Speaker 4: Kyoko, he's away here, Kyogo comes back off the Pasty.

1617
01:25:20,867 --> 01:25:26,787
Speaker 32: Praigs Thistl Turningham's breakthrough moment and it comes from Jay

1618
01:25:26,947 --> 01:25:31,507
Speaker 32: Statsville and that championship season has its left off.

1619
01:25:31,747 --> 01:25:35,787
Speaker 2: But Ipswich Town leveled things up very very late on.

1620
01:25:36,147 --> 01:25:41,827
Speaker 31: By minutes into stoppage time, Hurst against Allsop, and.

1621
01:25:41,907 --> 01:25:47,747
Speaker 32: Hurst tucks it away. Ipswich level with their first attempt

1622
01:25:47,867 --> 01:25:49,347
Speaker 32: on target off tonight.

1623
01:25:49,707 --> 01:25:52,627
Speaker 2: Here one one was the final score to the NRL.

1624
01:25:52,787 --> 01:25:56,427
Speaker 2: The Panthers continue their charge, far too good for the

1625
01:25:56,507 --> 01:25:57,787
Speaker 2: Knights in Newcastle when.

1626
01:25:57,707 --> 01:26:00,987
Speaker 11: They'll play remaining big wins of the Panthers. They've made

1627
01:26:00,987 --> 01:26:04,467
Speaker 11: a nine on the truck here in Newcastle. At the

1628
01:26:04,547 --> 01:26:07,947
Speaker 11: moment they are in the top four on the live ladder.

1629
01:26:07,987 --> 01:26:09,907
Speaker 2: They are smiling. Why wouldn't they be.

1630
01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:15,027
Speaker 11: At full time they've taken down the Newcastle Knights forty eight.

1631
01:26:15,347 --> 01:26:18,067
Speaker 2: Points to twelve. The're convincing from the Panthers. Then the

1632
01:26:18,187 --> 01:26:20,427
Speaker 2: Raiders went back to the top of the table, coming

1633
01:26:20,467 --> 01:26:22,387
Speaker 2: from behind to beat the Sea Eagles.

1634
01:26:22,507 --> 01:26:23,307
Speaker 7: A fuger.

1635
01:26:23,587 --> 01:26:25,867
Speaker 33: It's strange, look they had it in the sapway matter.

1636
01:26:26,267 --> 01:26:29,667
Speaker 33: Chris is in a bizarre play with the Raiders.

1637
01:26:29,787 --> 01:26:30,547
Speaker 6: Try the end.

1638
01:26:31,147 --> 01:26:34,467
Speaker 33: Beeth and strange look like a glitch on a video game.

1639
01:26:35,107 --> 01:26:38,267
Speaker 33: But it didn't matter because Chris picked up the crumbs

1640
01:26:38,587 --> 01:26:39,827
Speaker 33: and put it under the posts.

1641
01:26:40,187 --> 01:26:43,347
Speaker 2: Twenty eight to twelve the final score there and finally

1642
01:26:43,507 --> 01:26:47,187
Speaker 2: to the Bunnings ENDPC Northland are on the board after

1643
01:26:47,307 --> 01:26:50,267
Speaker 2: a twenty two seventeen win over Southland and funga Ay.

1644
01:26:50,707 --> 01:26:53,587
Speaker 2: The Tunny Far trailed seven mill at halftime, at fought

1645
01:26:53,667 --> 01:26:56,947
Speaker 2: back thanks to a second half hat trick to their

1646
01:26:56,987 --> 01:27:01,467
Speaker 2: replacement hooker James Mullen. At author picture starting to drive

1647
01:27:01,867 --> 01:27:03,027
Speaker 2: in the hands of looks like.

1648
01:27:03,107 --> 01:27:06,227
Speaker 5: James Mullen case of the line and the replacement hooker,

1649
01:27:06,667 --> 01:27:08,187
Speaker 5: but Zuck he's got his third try.

1650
01:27:10,387 --> 01:27:13,907
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

1651
01:27:13,987 --> 01:27:17,867
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vane and TJ Gunner Homes New Zealand's

1652
01:27:17,907 --> 01:27:20,147
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks Evy.

1653
01:27:20,787 --> 01:27:24,427
Speaker 2: Just updating you on buddings ENDPC Action. Wellington have scored

1654
01:27:24,547 --> 01:27:29,067
Speaker 2: the first try against White Cuto in Hamilton. They lead

1655
01:27:29,147 --> 01:27:31,867
Speaker 2: by seven points to nil. We've had about seven minutes

1656
01:27:31,947 --> 01:27:34,507
Speaker 2: there at scoreless. And the other game between North Harbor

1657
01:27:34,547 --> 01:27:37,227
Speaker 2: and Taranaki and actually Wellington are doing okay in the

1658
01:27:37,587 --> 01:27:39,947
Speaker 2: Farah Palmer Cup as well. They've scored the opening try

1659
01:27:40,587 --> 01:27:44,187
Speaker 2: and Lee Tasman five nil. That game being played in Nelson.

1660
01:27:44,227 --> 01:27:47,627
Speaker 2: They've had about five or six minutes there as well. Massive,

1661
01:27:47,947 --> 01:27:51,747
Speaker 2: massive game for the Warriors tonight they meet the Bulldogs

1662
01:27:51,787 --> 01:27:54,667
Speaker 2: from nine point thirty in Sydney. They go and off

1663
01:27:54,707 --> 01:27:58,307
Speaker 2: the back of consecutive home defeats to the Titans and

1664
01:27:58,507 --> 01:28:01,667
Speaker 2: last weekend to the Dolphins, and with as we've just heard,

1665
01:28:01,707 --> 01:28:05,027
Speaker 2: the Panthers winning their ninth straight match last night, the

1666
01:28:05,107 --> 01:28:08,187
Speaker 2: Warriors need to win to retain their spot in the

1667
01:28:08,267 --> 01:28:10,987
Speaker 2: top four. In fact, if the Sharks would have beat

1668
01:28:10,987 --> 01:28:13,787
Speaker 2: the Dragons and the five o'clock game today, they too

1669
01:28:14,227 --> 01:28:17,987
Speaker 2: would jump ahead of the Warriors. So it's possible the

1670
01:28:18,067 --> 01:28:22,507
Speaker 2: Warriors could end the weekend in sixth if they don't win. Conversely,

1671
01:28:22,627 --> 01:28:26,707
Speaker 2: of course, and let's think positively, victory would restore confidence

1672
01:28:26,827 --> 01:28:29,547
Speaker 2: and keep them in the top four, where they have

1673
01:28:29,747 --> 01:28:33,667
Speaker 2: been ever since Round six. That's how big this game is.

1674
01:28:34,067 --> 01:28:37,827
Speaker 2: Former Warriors captain and our Skysport commentator Monty Betham is

1675
01:28:37,907 --> 01:28:40,387
Speaker 2: with us on Weekend Sport. Monty four losses in the

1676
01:28:40,467 --> 01:28:43,787
Speaker 2: last six, including those back to back defeats at home,

1677
01:28:43,867 --> 01:28:47,267
Speaker 2: where do you think Andrew Webster and his coaching staff

1678
01:28:47,307 --> 01:28:50,347
Speaker 2: would have been placing their major focus ahead of this

1679
01:28:50,467 --> 01:28:52,027
Speaker 2: weekend's game against the Bulldogs.

1680
01:28:52,627 --> 01:28:55,707
Speaker 18: Well, I think I know that being in the change

1681
01:28:55,747 --> 01:28:58,547
Speaker 18: room after their last loss or most recent loss, was

1682
01:28:58,587 --> 01:29:00,587
Speaker 18: the fact that they're happy, they're again together, are going

1683
01:29:00,627 --> 01:29:02,547
Speaker 18: to be in camp. They went over on Wednesday and

1684
01:29:02,587 --> 01:29:05,307
Speaker 18: morning this week, so the top thirty we're there. They've

1685
01:29:05,507 --> 01:29:08,467
Speaker 18: spent some time to connect, to think about what's important,

1686
01:29:08,547 --> 01:29:10,747
Speaker 18: then to really get up for this game, and there's

1687
01:29:10,787 --> 01:29:13,427
Speaker 18: no lack of mo motivation for tonight. That's what sure.

1688
01:29:13,427 --> 01:29:15,867
Speaker 18: Playing a top four team playing at a course at

1689
01:29:15,867 --> 01:29:18,507
Speaker 18: them and that goes both ways for the Bulldogs as well,

1690
01:29:18,627 --> 01:29:21,707
Speaker 18: realizing that they were below their best last week out

1691
01:29:21,707 --> 01:29:24,227
Speaker 18: against the Tigers. They're at home and that they want

1692
01:29:24,267 --> 01:29:27,187
Speaker 18: to be. They're at the business time of the season.

1693
01:29:27,267 --> 01:29:29,467
Speaker 18: It's going to be at the very ground. So that's

1694
01:29:29,507 --> 01:29:31,747
Speaker 18: a great game tonight. I'm looking forward to Pony Yeah.

1695
01:29:31,627 --> 01:29:35,147
Speaker 2: Sa same Monty. Absolutely, injury should never be used as

1696
01:29:35,147 --> 01:29:37,827
Speaker 2: an excuse. But how big a part have they played

1697
01:29:37,867 --> 01:29:40,027
Speaker 2: in the last couple of months for the Warriors. Well

1698
01:29:40,067 --> 01:29:40,627
Speaker 2: we hear about the.

1699
01:29:40,627 --> 01:29:43,067
Speaker 18: Man up mentality or next man up mentality, but last

1700
01:29:43,107 --> 01:29:46,027
Speaker 18: week there was nixt boy up mentality. You know, you

1701
01:29:46,147 --> 01:29:48,867
Speaker 18: had three guys here on the bench and four guys

1702
01:29:48,987 --> 01:29:51,267
Speaker 18: overall and the team. They were part of the under

1703
01:29:51,307 --> 01:29:53,907
Speaker 18: nineteen issue ball side in twenty twenty three and then

1704
01:29:54,027 --> 01:29:57,467
Speaker 18: just two years later they're playing viral roles against the

1705
01:29:57,507 --> 01:29:59,787
Speaker 18: Dolphins a game media stadium. I think the first two

1706
01:29:59,787 --> 01:30:03,347
Speaker 18: interchanges were tennis Dalis Smith coming on and then also

1707
01:30:03,467 --> 01:30:08,707
Speaker 18: debut on Eddie Toyava. You know, so that Ramitoyas So

1708
01:30:08,867 --> 01:30:09,627
Speaker 18: that just shows you.

1709
01:30:11,387 --> 01:30:12,187
Speaker 8: How light they are.

1710
01:30:12,307 --> 01:30:14,347
Speaker 18: But in terms of saying that these young guys are

1711
01:30:14,387 --> 01:30:16,227
Speaker 18: guys of the future, and if they had have got

1712
01:30:16,267 --> 01:30:18,187
Speaker 18: it right, which they are really close to getting it right,

1713
01:30:18,867 --> 01:30:20,787
Speaker 18: it's a lot of trust that has shown and then

1714
01:30:20,907 --> 01:30:24,747
Speaker 18: also complemented and well received from the young men.

1715
01:30:24,987 --> 01:30:26,947
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Well, there's been a bit of shuffling as

1716
01:30:26,987 --> 01:30:30,027
Speaker 2: a result of unavailability. Did you like the look of

1717
01:30:30,147 --> 01:30:31,987
Speaker 2: chance nicol klukstar in the centers.

1718
01:30:33,147 --> 01:30:35,707
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, look, there's other parts of his game. What

1719
01:30:35,827 --> 01:30:37,547
Speaker 18: I did like was having both he and Tane on

1720
01:30:37,627 --> 01:30:40,067
Speaker 18: the field at the same time, and what Taine's been

1721
01:30:40,107 --> 01:30:43,347
Speaker 18: able to do at the back with those young fresh

1722
01:30:43,387 --> 01:30:47,227
Speaker 18: feet very fast. We know that defense of the Utan

1723
01:30:47,347 --> 01:30:49,227
Speaker 18: has always been the man at full back accounts the

1724
01:30:49,267 --> 01:30:51,947
Speaker 18: splits well and he's come up with some big tri Savis,

1725
01:30:51,987 --> 01:30:54,427
Speaker 18: and we've seen that also from Taine to it. I

1726
01:30:54,547 --> 01:30:56,267
Speaker 18: just feel that much more confident when you've got some

1727
01:30:56,627 --> 01:30:59,707
Speaker 18: guys in the centers with great communications schools, because it

1728
01:30:59,787 --> 01:31:02,387
Speaker 18: helps the guys a little bit wider. And Roger was

1729
01:31:02,387 --> 01:31:04,347
Speaker 18: in fine form last week, and I have no doubt

1730
01:31:04,387 --> 01:31:06,987
Speaker 18: there is some of his fine form three hundred and

1731
01:31:07,187 --> 01:31:10,747
Speaker 18: thirty five meters was down to the fact that Mia

1732
01:31:10,827 --> 01:31:13,987
Speaker 18: challenge inside them, egging him on. He is the barometer

1733
01:31:14,067 --> 01:31:17,347
Speaker 18: in terms of high performance and getting people up at

1734
01:31:17,387 --> 01:31:20,827
Speaker 18: and motiv motivating people to go well. So I did

1735
01:31:20,987 --> 01:31:22,707
Speaker 18: like the look of that last week for sure.

1736
01:31:23,107 --> 01:31:25,707
Speaker 2: How have you assessed Tenor Boyd's first four games in

1737
01:31:25,787 --> 01:31:26,467
Speaker 2: the seven Jumper?

1738
01:31:27,387 --> 01:31:29,707
Speaker 18: Yeah, look, I think his first game at Game Media

1739
01:31:29,947 --> 01:31:33,147
Speaker 18: that's my stadium, was the best, of course, But you know,

1740
01:31:33,347 --> 01:31:36,027
Speaker 18: I do think he's been carrying a little bit of

1741
01:31:36,587 --> 01:31:38,867
Speaker 18: some niggles of late as well, and I think that's

1742
01:31:38,947 --> 01:31:40,987
Speaker 18: made a little bit harder. But for him in terms

1743
01:31:40,987 --> 01:31:44,347
Speaker 18: of being still very very young and very experienced and

1744
01:31:44,427 --> 01:31:46,667
Speaker 18: a guy that's really enjoying the environment at the club.

1745
01:31:46,747 --> 01:31:48,987
Speaker 18: You know, even before he plaid a game he decided

1746
01:31:48,987 --> 01:31:50,827
Speaker 18: to take up his option for another year, has been

1747
01:31:50,947 --> 01:31:55,027
Speaker 18: enjoying being in the club and around. The learnings of

1748
01:31:55,667 --> 01:31:59,387
Speaker 18: Andrew Webster and other coaches have for me and just

1749
01:32:00,027 --> 01:32:02,947
Speaker 18: the boys. They have connected their average type the titles

1750
01:32:02,987 --> 01:32:05,907
Speaker 18: I've seen for some time, and luck he's played a

1751
01:32:05,947 --> 01:32:08,667
Speaker 18: big par and we saw last week that was very

1752
01:32:08,747 --> 01:32:10,587
Speaker 18: much in the spine of the new South Wales Cup

1753
01:32:10,867 --> 01:32:14,027
Speaker 18: that were playing together and they've been instrumental and the

1754
01:32:14,107 --> 01:32:17,027
Speaker 18: success of that side. Who's been right up there. I

1755
01:32:17,067 --> 01:32:19,587
Speaker 18: think if that day this weekend they might secure the

1756
01:32:20,387 --> 01:32:23,427
Speaker 18: minor premiership for the new Southwest Cup competition. Is that

1757
01:32:23,867 --> 01:32:26,067
Speaker 18: he's able to come up and play just as well.

1758
01:32:26,107 --> 01:32:26,747
Speaker 18: Within the side.

1759
01:32:27,347 --> 01:32:29,667
Speaker 2: There were concerns for a while monthly over the right

1760
01:32:29,827 --> 01:32:32,187
Speaker 2: edge defense of the Warriors. Have you seen improvement there?

1761
01:32:32,827 --> 01:32:35,787
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think bring him Adam Pompeo was a huge improvement.

1762
01:32:35,827 --> 01:32:38,427
Speaker 18: But no doubt doubt DLM what kin as a liz

1763
01:32:38,507 --> 01:32:40,827
Speaker 18: NeXT's been wanting to improve and feel better about himself

1764
01:32:40,827 --> 01:32:43,707
Speaker 18: and sometimes that comes with confidence as well. Also from

1765
01:32:43,747 --> 01:32:46,427
Speaker 18: the inside you let to do a job in terms

1766
01:32:46,467 --> 01:32:50,707
Speaker 18: of pushing and enstooging to get across the for pressure

1767
01:32:50,787 --> 01:32:52,867
Speaker 18: inside players so they've got less time to play. And

1768
01:32:52,987 --> 01:32:55,787
Speaker 18: also by getting across aminza edge or a four men

1769
01:32:55,907 --> 01:32:58,467
Speaker 18: defender who's here in the second row, he can be

1770
01:32:58,547 --> 01:33:01,067
Speaker 18: a little bit wider, which is gives a bit more

1771
01:33:01,107 --> 01:33:03,067
Speaker 18: time and space for the center and the winger to

1772
01:33:03,107 --> 01:33:06,227
Speaker 18: help out. So yes Dale has been making a few

1773
01:33:06,907 --> 01:33:08,827
Speaker 18: areas of la in terms of his decisions that went

1774
01:33:08,867 --> 01:33:11,267
Speaker 18: to come in. But also that comes under pressure with

1775
01:33:11,307 --> 01:33:13,707
Speaker 18: the guys on the inside. But so much better looking

1776
01:33:13,787 --> 01:33:15,867
Speaker 18: point in the weekend, and I think Adam Pompey, who

1777
01:33:16,867 --> 01:33:20,747
Speaker 18: for if we're honest, each year, you know last year

1778
01:33:20,787 --> 01:33:22,547
Speaker 18: and the previous year, people go, well, I think he's

1779
01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:24,187
Speaker 18: going to be struggling to hold on to that that

1780
01:33:24,347 --> 01:33:26,867
Speaker 18: center jumper. But every year he just turns out you

1781
01:33:27,027 --> 01:33:29,867
Speaker 18: provide and he's he's a one constant in terms of

1782
01:33:29,907 --> 01:33:32,107
Speaker 18: that that center that each week is out there and

1783
01:33:32,507 --> 01:33:33,907
Speaker 18: doing his singing.

1784
01:33:33,787 --> 01:33:36,627
Speaker 2: Very well without wanting to pump a young blokes ties

1785
01:33:36,667 --> 01:33:40,987
Speaker 2: up too much. What might leck a Hella Seima's ceiling be.

1786
01:33:42,227 --> 01:33:45,627
Speaker 18: Well, he's the last player to scored ten tries and

1787
01:33:45,747 --> 01:33:48,827
Speaker 18: afford the Warriors as afford for the Warriors was Ali

1788
01:33:48,907 --> 01:33:52,067
Speaker 18: lap Back in two thousand and two. So lekas on

1789
01:33:52,147 --> 01:33:55,187
Speaker 18: ten right now, the season is not over. You'd think

1790
01:33:55,227 --> 01:33:58,907
Speaker 18: he'd be a specialty to score another couple of tries. Look,

1791
01:33:59,107 --> 01:34:03,067
Speaker 18: the ceiling for this kid could be outstanding. I knew

1792
01:34:03,107 --> 01:34:05,067
Speaker 18: this from a few years back, and I think fed

1793
01:34:05,107 --> 01:34:08,347
Speaker 18: the club. But it depended on how well he applies

1794
01:34:08,427 --> 01:34:10,707
Speaker 18: himself for the work effect, which is a solid one,

1795
01:34:11,587 --> 01:34:14,467
Speaker 18: and how he deals with the fame of what he's

1796
01:34:14,467 --> 01:34:17,947
Speaker 18: been able to do each week, where he talks about

1797
01:34:18,347 --> 01:34:21,307
Speaker 18: defense and addresses defense because he realizes that this kid

1798
01:34:21,587 --> 01:34:23,787
Speaker 18: can do it all. He's not just a one trick pony.

1799
01:34:23,987 --> 01:34:26,667
Speaker 18: A lot of guys over the year is a wonderful attackers,

1800
01:34:26,707 --> 01:34:28,427
Speaker 18: but they get lost in the defenses of the more

1801
01:34:28,467 --> 01:34:30,827
Speaker 18: they become a liability. I don't think that's going to

1802
01:34:30,867 --> 01:34:32,667
Speaker 18: be the case of Liquor. He wants to learn. He

1803
01:34:32,947 --> 01:34:35,987
Speaker 18: goes after the areas and he pushes really hard. Although

1804
01:34:36,427 --> 01:34:38,427
Speaker 18: I did him lying down last week with about of

1805
01:34:38,507 --> 01:34:41,067
Speaker 18: severe cramp and he'll realize that he can't be doing

1806
01:34:41,147 --> 01:34:45,107
Speaker 18: that and as your shot and this year you're going

1807
01:34:45,187 --> 01:34:47,187
Speaker 18: to be gone, that you can't just do that. But

1808
01:34:47,347 --> 01:34:49,427
Speaker 18: in saying that, like this is a wonderful kid who's

1809
01:34:49,907 --> 01:34:53,307
Speaker 18: all of a sudden shot to such start and amongst

1810
01:34:53,587 --> 01:34:56,827
Speaker 18: the young supporters and fans of the Warriors, but he's

1811
01:34:56,867 --> 01:34:58,707
Speaker 18: been level headed pony, which is great to see.

1812
01:34:58,907 --> 01:35:02,347
Speaker 2: All Right, Bulldogs away tonight, then Dragon's home, Titans away,

1813
01:35:02,467 --> 01:35:06,707
Speaker 2: Eels home, see Eagles away. You reckon three wins? Those

1814
01:35:06,827 --> 01:35:08,387
Speaker 2: five would be enough for the top four.

1815
01:35:09,187 --> 01:35:12,587
Speaker 18: Yeah, well that's the other thing. I think three from

1816
01:35:12,707 --> 01:35:15,667
Speaker 18: five probably will be enough. But to be honest, it

1817
01:35:15,787 --> 01:35:19,627
Speaker 18: may take the fourth, but it depends on tonight in

1818
01:35:19,787 --> 01:35:23,187
Speaker 18: terms of how the guys go against the Bulldogs, what

1819
01:35:23,307 --> 01:35:26,307
Speaker 18: they're able to do with that weekend camp, with that

1820
01:35:26,427 --> 01:35:30,027
Speaker 18: mini camp, and then you know obviously what you're able

1821
01:35:30,067 --> 01:35:31,987
Speaker 18: to do on top of that going forward will help

1822
01:35:32,027 --> 01:35:34,387
Speaker 18: you because the confidence you take the wind like that

1823
01:35:34,467 --> 01:35:36,387
Speaker 18: when you're back against the wall, you've had two losses,

1824
01:35:36,467 --> 01:35:38,387
Speaker 18: you yet to have three losses in the row this year,

1825
01:35:38,707 --> 01:35:40,627
Speaker 18: and you go on top tip over a top four,

1826
01:35:41,387 --> 01:35:43,747
Speaker 18: you know, a favorite for winning the competition. That will

1827
01:35:43,827 --> 01:35:46,467
Speaker 18: do wonders for the side, but you know it's going

1828
01:35:46,507 --> 01:35:48,947
Speaker 18: to be a hard game. Last time Mount Da paid

1829
01:35:49,027 --> 01:35:51,667
Speaker 18: of course stadium with a thirteen twelve one point when

1830
01:35:52,467 --> 01:35:54,547
Speaker 18: to the dogs, and I think will be close again tonight.

1831
01:35:54,827 --> 01:35:57,027
Speaker 2: All right, well, look forward to seeing how it plays out.

1832
01:35:57,107 --> 01:36:00,187
Speaker 2: Always appreciate your analysis, Monty. Thanks for joining us, mate,

1833
01:36:00,587 --> 01:36:03,027
Speaker 2: Thanks funny, Thank you mate. That's Monty beat them with

1834
01:36:03,147 --> 01:36:06,747
Speaker 2: his thoughts. He's confident. Worris fans, let me read your

1835
01:36:06,827 --> 01:36:08,627
Speaker 2: pulse on this. Let's have let's have a bit of

1836
01:36:08,667 --> 01:36:10,307
Speaker 2: a yarn about this. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1837
01:36:10,387 --> 01:36:13,547
Speaker 2: eighty lines open. How confident are you feeling? Warriors fans

1838
01:36:13,627 --> 01:36:16,107
Speaker 2: ninet two ninety two. If you just want to summarize

1839
01:36:16,787 --> 01:36:20,427
Speaker 2: via text, Big boost. You've probably heard this news. Captain

1840
01:36:20,507 --> 01:36:23,827
Speaker 2: James Fis Shaharris will play. He'll start at prop having

1841
01:36:23,947 --> 01:36:27,467
Speaker 2: recovered from that calf issue. It means Maratta near Corda

1842
01:36:27,667 --> 01:36:30,067
Speaker 2: heads to the second row. Liqua Helisima will move to

1843
01:36:30,147 --> 01:36:34,027
Speaker 2: the bench. That's massive, massive, there's no weight Egan still,

1844
01:36:35,267 --> 01:36:38,707
Speaker 2: Rock o'berry and Ali Laiatawa are still a couple of

1845
01:36:38,747 --> 01:36:42,387
Speaker 2: weeks away. Jacob Laban won't play until the finals at

1846
01:36:42,387 --> 01:36:44,667
Speaker 2: the earliest with the leg injury he suffered last week.

1847
01:36:45,067 --> 01:36:47,547
Speaker 2: But having James F. Shaharris back is massive for his

1848
01:36:47,707 --> 01:36:50,267
Speaker 2: leadership and his influence on this team as much as

1849
01:36:50,867 --> 01:36:53,987
Speaker 2: anything else. The team's always better when he's in it,

1850
01:36:54,627 --> 01:36:57,147
Speaker 2: and it does release. As I say, near Quarte back

1851
01:36:57,187 --> 01:36:59,867
Speaker 2: to the second row allows lack Ahalasima to provide his

1852
01:37:00,027 --> 01:37:01,787
Speaker 2: impact off the bench. It'll be great to have that

1853
01:37:01,907 --> 01:37:06,587
Speaker 2: cavalry back in the centers with Barry and Laiatawa, as

1854
01:37:06,627 --> 01:37:10,307
Speaker 2: I say, a couple of weeks away, so they'll be

1855
01:37:10,427 --> 01:37:14,307
Speaker 2: arriving back at a pretty key time. I don't mind

1856
01:37:14,347 --> 01:37:16,147
Speaker 2: the back line. I've gotta say chances a good stop

1857
01:37:16,187 --> 01:37:18,507
Speaker 2: gap at center. I don't mind. That much better solution

1858
01:37:18,627 --> 01:37:21,787
Speaker 2: than having Kurt Capewell. There he's a second rower. He

1859
01:37:21,947 --> 01:37:25,627
Speaker 2: was really only ever there as a as a as

1860
01:37:25,667 --> 01:37:28,787
Speaker 2: a temporary solution. And Andrew Webster said, I don't know

1861
01:37:28,827 --> 01:37:30,907
Speaker 2: how many times he said we don't want them there,

1862
01:37:30,947 --> 01:37:32,387
Speaker 2: we want them in the second row. Well there he is.

1863
01:37:33,027 --> 01:37:35,587
Speaker 2: And the spine, as Monty Beatham says, this is the

1864
01:37:35,627 --> 01:37:38,467
Speaker 2: spine from the new South Walest Cup side that's lost

1865
01:37:38,587 --> 01:37:42,027
Speaker 2: just one of their twenty games. They lead that comp

1866
01:37:42,107 --> 01:37:47,627
Speaker 2: by seven points. Tang Taipicki tanor Boyd Sam Healy. Big

1867
01:37:47,747 --> 01:37:51,267
Speaker 2: knights for those blokes tonight, Big Knights, Big knights for

1868
01:37:51,267 --> 01:37:55,187
Speaker 2: everybody ready. A Warrior's wind would see them reclaim fourth

1869
01:37:55,267 --> 01:37:58,347
Speaker 2: spot from Penrith, who moved into the top four with

1870
01:37:58,467 --> 01:38:01,627
Speaker 2: their ninth straight win, thumping the Knights last night forty

1871
01:38:01,667 --> 01:38:04,627
Speaker 2: eight twelve in Newcastle. And as mentioned of the Sharks

1872
01:38:04,667 --> 01:38:07,707
Speaker 2: beat the Dragons at five o'clock, they too would jump

1873
01:38:07,707 --> 01:38:11,627
Speaker 2: ahead of the Warriors. So a loss for the Warriors

1874
01:38:11,667 --> 01:38:14,307
Speaker 2: tonight would mean they could end the weekend in sixth.

1875
01:38:15,067 --> 01:38:20,787
Speaker 2: Look you know it's there's no catastrophe to be had here,

1876
01:38:21,627 --> 01:38:24,907
Speaker 2: but a win tonight would be massive. It would be

1877
01:38:25,027 --> 01:38:28,587
Speaker 2: such a massive boost to go to Sydney and beat

1878
01:38:28,627 --> 01:38:34,667
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs, who themselves have real designs on that top

1879
01:38:34,747 --> 01:38:39,587
Speaker 2: four would be massive. Can they do it? A eight,

1880
01:38:39,587 --> 01:38:41,427
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Give us your levels

1881
01:38:41,427 --> 01:38:43,587
Speaker 2: of optimism or anything in particular that stood out from

1882
01:38:43,587 --> 01:38:47,107
Speaker 2: the chat to Monty or your conversations with your Warriors

1883
01:38:47,187 --> 01:38:49,987
Speaker 2: mates during the week. Text you on watching the Warriors

1884
01:38:50,027 --> 01:38:52,067
Speaker 2: like I used to watch horror movies as a kid

1885
01:38:52,427 --> 01:38:55,187
Speaker 2: from behind the couch, occasionally peaking a look when I'm

1886
01:38:55,227 --> 01:38:59,347
Speaker 2: feeling brave. I love it, David Queen's stance, here's Jason

1887
01:38:59,427 --> 01:39:01,147
Speaker 2: like everyone else. I'm hoping the Warriors can't get the

1888
01:39:01,187 --> 01:39:03,667
Speaker 2: win tonight. I just hope they take the opportunities to

1889
01:39:03,747 --> 01:39:06,747
Speaker 2: take the two when they get penalties on attack. The

1890
01:39:06,827 --> 01:39:09,467
Speaker 2: tries will come when they come, but take the two

1891
01:39:09,587 --> 01:39:12,587
Speaker 2: points it can potentially mean an extra six or more

1892
01:39:12,627 --> 01:39:16,147
Speaker 2: points a game so important in type games, especially as

1893
01:39:16,187 --> 01:39:19,027
Speaker 2: we head towards the playoffs. How much did they lose

1894
01:39:19,067 --> 01:39:22,787
Speaker 2: by in their last game up the Wars? Thanks Dave? Yeah, look,

1895
01:39:22,827 --> 01:39:24,587
Speaker 2: I think in hindsight, if you go back a week,

1896
01:39:24,627 --> 01:39:27,627
Speaker 2: they would have. You know, of course, hindsight's always twenty twenty,

1897
01:39:27,707 --> 01:39:29,467
Speaker 2: but they would have taken the two points, wouldn't they?

1898
01:39:30,027 --> 01:39:33,027
Speaker 2: Andrew Webster explained it though, explain why they didn't take

1899
01:39:33,067 --> 01:39:35,907
Speaker 2: the penalty to put themselves out by four points against

1900
01:39:35,907 --> 01:39:39,867
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. He said he could just imagine a scenario

1901
01:39:40,067 --> 01:39:43,747
Speaker 2: under which the Dolphins kick off Regather score a try,

1902
01:39:44,427 --> 01:39:47,107
Speaker 2: and then we're having a different conversation. He said, we

1903
01:39:47,147 --> 01:39:50,187
Speaker 2: would rather have kept them pegged down that end, which

1904
01:39:50,267 --> 01:39:52,747
Speaker 2: is what they decided to do. Didn't turn out in

1905
01:39:52,787 --> 01:39:55,667
Speaker 2: their favor, but at least the rationale for it was sound.

1906
01:39:56,347 --> 01:40:00,547
Speaker 2: Two twenty five. Stephen Bunting before three, But let's talk

1907
01:40:00,627 --> 01:40:02,707
Speaker 2: some league oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine,

1908
01:40:02,747 --> 01:40:04,787
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1918
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1932
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1933
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1934
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1935
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Speaker 2: Baby two twenty nine Talking Warriors. How confident are you? Greg?

1936
01:41:31,907 --> 01:41:38,587
Speaker 34: I'm a bit like you piney, but nervous, Yeah, a

1937
01:41:38,587 --> 01:41:42,587
Speaker 34: little bit nervous. I think something that a lot of

1938
01:41:42,627 --> 01:41:46,107
Speaker 34: people haven't thrown into the conversation is that the Dogs

1939
01:41:46,187 --> 01:41:49,707
Speaker 34: lost last week as well, so they're going to be smarting,

1940
01:41:52,307 --> 01:41:54,707
Speaker 34: you know, to try and get the two points as

1941
01:41:55,067 --> 01:41:57,227
Speaker 34: they're in a bit of a situation like we are.

1942
01:42:00,347 --> 01:42:05,067
Speaker 34: But yeah, at Combank Stadium as well, that that's their

1943
01:42:05,387 --> 01:42:08,947
Speaker 34: home ground. They have said that the Warriors have gone

1944
01:42:08,947 --> 01:42:10,987
Speaker 34: all out to give tickets left, right and center in

1945
01:42:12,187 --> 01:42:15,547
Speaker 34: the area, so there should be a good Warrior's support.

1946
01:42:16,107 --> 01:42:20,187
Speaker 2: Well, I agreed, I read, sorry, mat, I read that

1947
01:42:20,667 --> 01:42:25,347
Speaker 2: they reckon that Warriors fans could outnumber Bulldogs fans. There's

1948
01:42:25,387 --> 01:42:28,307
Speaker 2: forty thousand capacity that ground. As you say, there's been

1949
01:42:28,347 --> 01:42:31,107
Speaker 2: tickets handed out, and I'm just reading hair data shows

1950
01:42:31,147 --> 01:42:34,827
Speaker 2: Warriors supporters have bought more tickets and Bulldog supporters for

1951
01:42:34,867 --> 01:42:35,187
Speaker 2: this one.

1952
01:42:36,747 --> 01:42:40,947
Speaker 34: Yeah, I heard that somewhere myself. So obviously the supporter

1953
01:42:41,027 --> 01:42:47,587
Speaker 34: would be good. But I just I just don't know, Sessher.

1954
01:42:47,707 --> 01:42:50,027
Speaker 34: Harris has obviously got to be put in the mix,

1955
01:42:51,267 --> 01:42:54,667
Speaker 34: but I'm still I'm still worried about the right edge.

1956
01:42:55,827 --> 01:43:02,507
Speaker 34: Alan's still coming in far too close to the centers. Yeah,

1957
01:43:02,587 --> 01:43:05,547
Speaker 34: I'd rather have Charms back at full back and put

1958
01:43:05,707 --> 01:43:13,587
Speaker 34: to a pecking maybe into standoff, and put Harris Davida

1959
01:43:13,667 --> 01:43:17,907
Speaker 34: at center, maybe just for the defensive side of things.

1960
01:43:18,787 --> 01:43:21,587
Speaker 34: Got some to a peck. He's not a big boy.

1961
01:43:22,947 --> 01:43:25,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure to be chopping and changing it

1962
01:43:25,267 --> 01:43:29,387
Speaker 2: too much. I don't, I don't. I think Harris Davida's

1963
01:43:29,427 --> 01:43:32,227
Speaker 2: best best position is probably in that six jumper tenor

1964
01:43:32,267 --> 01:43:33,867
Speaker 2: boy do I think is growing game by game, and

1965
01:43:33,907 --> 01:43:36,667
Speaker 2: I think a big one from him is necessary tonight.

1966
01:43:36,827 --> 01:43:40,867
Speaker 2: And yeah, look, I think Charms once, once a couple

1967
01:43:40,907 --> 01:43:44,467
Speaker 2: of those centers are fit again, the likes of Berry

1968
01:43:44,587 --> 01:43:48,387
Speaker 2: and Latawa, I think we will. We will see him

1969
01:43:48,387 --> 01:43:49,067
Speaker 2: back at fullback.

1970
01:43:49,147 --> 01:43:53,667
Speaker 34: So yeah, I think I'm going for I'm going for

1971
01:43:53,787 --> 01:43:56,147
Speaker 34: golden point in a Warrior's win.

1972
01:43:56,907 --> 01:43:59,547
Speaker 2: Golden pointed a Warrior's win. That is the spirit. Greg.

1973
01:43:59,787 --> 01:44:02,387
Speaker 2: Let's chat tomorrow, mate, We're going to unpack it all tomorrow.

1974
01:44:02,467 --> 01:44:04,627
Speaker 2: So give us a yell back and we can either

1975
01:44:04,667 --> 01:44:08,387
Speaker 2: lick our wounds or celebrate the victor Anthony on text

1976
01:44:08,827 --> 01:44:11,547
Speaker 2: Jason as a lifetime supporter and business sponsor of the

1977
01:44:11,587 --> 01:44:14,547
Speaker 2: Warriors for more than two decades. I'm betting We're going

1978
01:44:14,587 --> 01:44:18,347
Speaker 2: to win this one. The Warriors have had disappointing outings

1979
01:44:18,387 --> 01:44:20,307
Speaker 2: in the last two games that we expected to win.

1980
01:44:20,387 --> 01:44:23,707
Speaker 2: Tonight's game wouldn't rate as one we should definitely win.

1981
01:44:23,867 --> 01:44:26,787
Speaker 2: But the Warriors are going to do what they do,

1982
01:44:26,987 --> 01:44:29,667
Speaker 2: and I smell a win in the year as Anthony,

1983
01:44:29,827 --> 01:44:32,907
Speaker 2: who finishes by saying, I'm betting my neighbour's house on it.

1984
01:44:34,547 --> 01:44:38,507
Speaker 2: Love that, Anthony, Love that. Lindsay's Jason Monty has made

1985
01:44:38,547 --> 01:44:41,627
Speaker 2: me feel better. Thanks Monty. Do you think having heaps

1986
01:44:41,627 --> 01:44:43,627
Speaker 2: of Warriors fans in Sydney will help our chances?

1987
01:44:44,107 --> 01:44:44,147
Speaker 6: That?

1988
01:44:44,347 --> 01:44:44,547
Speaker 14: I do?

1989
01:44:44,947 --> 01:44:48,027
Speaker 2: I really do. I can't see how it could possibly

1990
01:44:48,147 --> 01:44:51,827
Speaker 2: be anything other than a massive boost to have such

1991
01:44:51,867 --> 01:44:56,587
Speaker 2: a big crowd in coming. Yeah, I think it's going

1992
01:44:56,627 --> 01:44:58,747
Speaker 2: to be a massive boost to us. Leroy, Hi mate,

1993
01:44:59,787 --> 01:45:00,547
Speaker 2: I'm getting bunny.

1994
01:45:00,587 --> 01:45:02,107
Speaker 21: Are you very good? Leroy?

1995
01:45:02,227 --> 01:45:04,827
Speaker 2: What's your level of confidence ahead of tonight?

1996
01:45:04,907 --> 01:45:05,107
Speaker 27: Mate?

1997
01:45:06,387 --> 01:45:06,987
Speaker 16: Real confidence?

1998
01:45:07,027 --> 01:45:07,467
Speaker 15: No panic?

1999
01:45:08,067 --> 01:45:09,987
Speaker 16: Yeah, you want to go there? We'll get those two

2000
01:45:10,027 --> 01:45:14,627
Speaker 16: points just listening to their guys before me. I don't

2001
01:45:14,707 --> 01:45:18,227
Speaker 16: think putting taint your picky into your half and putting

2002
01:45:18,547 --> 01:45:21,067
Speaker 16: down into the centers is the one. I think as

2003
01:45:21,227 --> 01:45:24,427
Speaker 16: that is now tains is good at at the back

2004
01:45:24,547 --> 01:45:25,907
Speaker 16: end for chance in the centers.

2005
01:45:27,867 --> 01:45:33,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tane's been playing fullback for the new

2006
01:45:33,627 --> 01:45:35,667
Speaker 2: Southwest cap side, hasn't he. That's where he's been playing,

2007
01:45:35,987 --> 01:45:38,347
Speaker 2: you know, so well for them. So look, I agree

2008
01:45:38,387 --> 01:45:39,987
Speaker 2: with you Lee Roy. I think that you're given the

2009
01:45:40,067 --> 01:45:42,987
Speaker 2: one jersey, you know, playing where he's used to playing.

2010
01:45:43,187 --> 01:45:44,987
Speaker 2: I really like him. Uh you know, I know I

2011
01:45:45,067 --> 01:45:48,267
Speaker 2: played on the wing before Dellan came back, but I've

2012
01:45:48,427 --> 01:45:50,627
Speaker 2: always liked the look of me. It's not the biggest guy,

2013
01:45:50,747 --> 01:45:52,147
Speaker 2: but ma'am what a heart.

2014
01:45:53,387 --> 01:45:55,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, they know he's got heart and many he's got

2015
01:45:55,147 --> 01:45:57,907
Speaker 16: a lot of speed and you know there's some players

2016
01:45:57,947 --> 01:45:59,667
Speaker 16: there that they set up and they normally and they

2017
01:45:59,747 --> 01:46:02,667
Speaker 16: normally score. So yeah, and with Sam and hockey and

2018
01:46:02,707 --> 01:46:06,547
Speaker 16: as well family. Yeah, you know that's the the guess

2019
01:46:06,547 --> 01:46:12,467
Speaker 16: the reserve great bloody you know fine yeah, yeah, that's

2020
01:46:12,467 --> 01:46:14,507
Speaker 16: time for money Martin. You know last week was was

2021
01:46:14,627 --> 01:46:17,107
Speaker 16: it's fine, it's money Martin. Anybody had to go back

2022
01:46:17,187 --> 01:46:20,507
Speaker 16: out on the reserves for Shennon. So now I like

2023
01:46:20,547 --> 01:46:22,587
Speaker 16: the bunny they well I can't wait.

2024
01:46:24,987 --> 01:46:26,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, god on you Leroy, Look, I'm gonna have your

2025
01:46:26,867 --> 01:46:28,787
Speaker 2: words ringing in my years mate, give me a call

2026
01:46:28,907 --> 01:46:30,467
Speaker 2: tomorrow if you get a chance tomorrow after mid day

2027
01:46:30,547 --> 01:46:32,227
Speaker 2: to sell back and we can chat about it almost

2028
01:46:32,267 --> 01:46:37,507
Speaker 2: like sort of revisiting things, revisiting predictions afterwards. Bevan Dewa

2029
01:46:37,667 --> 01:46:39,867
Speaker 2: is producing the show today. You'll know Bevan's voice as

2030
01:46:40,027 --> 01:46:44,347
Speaker 2: h as one of Sky Sports commentary team. How do

2031
01:46:44,427 --> 01:46:46,347
Speaker 2: you feel about this mate? You've seen a lot of

2032
01:46:46,427 --> 01:46:49,587
Speaker 2: this team and how are you feeling about tonight?

2033
01:46:50,307 --> 01:46:50,947
Speaker 21: Not confident?

2034
01:46:51,027 --> 01:46:55,107
Speaker 35: Ifs to be completely honest with you, Pioney, you're taking

2035
01:46:55,147 --> 01:46:56,987
Speaker 35: on a top four team. Canterbury could possibly be in

2036
01:46:57,027 --> 01:46:58,947
Speaker 35: the Grand Final by the end of the season. Look,

2037
01:46:59,067 --> 01:47:04,507
Speaker 35: I personally think the Warriors won't win tonight. They should

2038
01:47:04,587 --> 01:47:07,267
Speaker 35: though next week they should theoretically beat Saint George and

2039
01:47:07,267 --> 01:47:10,347
Speaker 35: they should theoryically beat the final home game which is

2040
01:47:10,427 --> 01:47:12,627
Speaker 35: paramatter as well, So they should get two more wins

2041
01:47:12,707 --> 01:47:16,347
Speaker 35: left in the last five games, pushing it to win

2042
01:47:16,427 --> 01:47:18,827
Speaker 35: four out of five to make the four. But I

2043
01:47:18,987 --> 01:47:20,507
Speaker 35: think Pineyer at the end of the day, it's a

2044
01:47:20,587 --> 01:47:22,787
Speaker 35: messive tick in the box as if they can at

2045
01:47:22,907 --> 01:47:25,867
Speaker 35: least make the eighth. And that's an improvement from last season,

2046
01:47:25,947 --> 01:47:26,187
Speaker 35: isn't it?

2047
01:47:26,667 --> 01:47:30,387
Speaker 2: It has been? But yeah, i'd be. I think a

2048
01:47:30,427 --> 01:47:32,187
Speaker 2: lot of people would be so gutted given the fact

2049
01:47:32,187 --> 01:47:34,747
Speaker 2: we've been in the top four since Round six. And yes,

2050
01:47:34,787 --> 01:47:36,707
Speaker 2: I know it's a long season and injuries happened all

2051
01:47:36,707 --> 01:47:40,587
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Yeah, it would be if you

2052
01:47:40,667 --> 01:47:42,667
Speaker 2: lose tonight, it would be difficult. You'd probably have to

2053
01:47:42,747 --> 01:47:44,787
Speaker 2: win three of the last four, wouldn't you. And as

2054
01:47:44,827 --> 01:47:47,307
Speaker 2: you've mentioned s George at home and the Ears at home,

2055
01:47:47,427 --> 01:47:49,427
Speaker 2: but then they've lost their last two home games, Titans

2056
01:47:49,467 --> 01:47:50,987
Speaker 2: who seemed to be a team we can't be, no,

2057
01:47:51,107 --> 01:47:52,747
Speaker 2: and then then see you go was away in daily

2058
01:47:52,827 --> 01:47:55,267
Speaker 2: Cherry Evans final game for the club where there's gonna

2059
01:47:55,267 --> 01:47:57,107
Speaker 2: be all sorts of emotion wrapped around. So tough games

2060
01:47:57,147 --> 01:47:59,907
Speaker 2: to come, No, that's right, and at any of the day.

2061
01:47:59,947 --> 01:48:02,827
Speaker 35: Also, you know, losing to Gold Coast at home after

2062
01:48:02,947 --> 01:48:06,027
Speaker 35: leading by what two tries in the first six minutes

2063
01:48:06,067 --> 01:48:07,507
Speaker 35: or so, thought that was going to be a blowout

2064
01:48:07,627 --> 01:48:10,907
Speaker 35: it wasn't. And then again last week against the Dolphins,

2065
01:48:10,947 --> 01:48:14,467
Speaker 35: which we probably should have shut that game out, we didn't.

2066
01:48:14,627 --> 01:48:18,147
Speaker 35: So yeah, look, as I say, tonight, in my opinion,

2067
01:48:18,227 --> 01:48:20,867
Speaker 35: Canterbury probably win. But in saying that we should probably

2068
01:48:20,907 --> 01:48:27,387
Speaker 35: win against Saint George and also paramettera possibly finished sixth

2069
01:48:27,467 --> 01:48:28,507
Speaker 35: by the end of the regular season.

2070
01:48:28,587 --> 01:48:30,587
Speaker 2: That's my prediction anyway. Yeah, you're too much of a

2071
01:48:30,667 --> 01:48:33,147
Speaker 2: voice of reason for me, Bevan, but I don't mind it.

2072
01:48:33,227 --> 01:48:37,627
Speaker 2: It does counterbalance the rather naive optimism that I tend

2073
01:48:37,667 --> 01:48:40,827
Speaker 2: to bring to these things sometimes. Thanks for your thanks

2074
01:48:40,867 --> 01:48:42,987
Speaker 2: for your and mate. We'll see how they go and

2075
01:48:43,147 --> 01:48:46,547
Speaker 2: we will cover off the Warriors tomorrow after midday. We're

2076
01:48:46,587 --> 01:48:48,627
Speaker 2: going to move to darts though, the world's top players

2077
01:48:48,947 --> 01:48:51,467
Speaker 2: heading to Spark Arena in Auckland for the sky City

2078
01:48:51,547 --> 01:48:55,547
Speaker 2: New Zealand Darts Masters next Friday and Saturday. It marks

2079
01:48:55,547 --> 01:48:59,307
Speaker 2: the tournament's much anticipated return to Walkland and it's debut

2080
01:48:59,867 --> 01:49:03,827
Speaker 2: at the larger venue of Spark Arena. This year's event

2081
01:49:03,907 --> 01:49:08,227
Speaker 2: features a stellar lineup of international stars Luke Humphreys, Luke Luttler,

2082
01:49:08,547 --> 01:49:12,787
Speaker 2: Goin Price in world number four. Stephen Bunting is also coming,

2083
01:49:13,107 --> 01:49:14,747
Speaker 2: he joins us now on the show. Is this your

2084
01:49:14,867 --> 01:49:18,307
Speaker 2: first trip to New Zealand, Stephen no, no.

2085
01:49:18,347 --> 01:49:20,587
Speaker 21: I was there ten years ago. I did the the

2086
01:49:20,667 --> 01:49:22,187
Speaker 21: Auckland Arts Masters ten years ago.

2087
01:49:22,267 --> 01:49:24,107
Speaker 36: So it's nice to be to be coming back to

2088
01:49:24,147 --> 01:49:26,787
Speaker 36: New Zealand to Auckland and I'm really looking forward to me.

2089
01:49:27,307 --> 01:49:30,307
Speaker 2: You are coming in great form. Four World Series finals

2090
01:49:30,387 --> 01:49:32,987
Speaker 2: this year, two wins. Only Gary Anderson and Phil Taylor

2091
01:49:33,027 --> 01:49:35,227
Speaker 2: have ever won three in a year. What are you

2092
01:49:35,307 --> 01:49:36,187
Speaker 2: doing so well right now?

2093
01:49:37,307 --> 01:49:38,947
Speaker 21: I think just believing in me honor ability.

2094
01:49:39,147 --> 01:49:43,187
Speaker 36: Obviously, playing against the best players in the world every

2095
01:49:43,227 --> 01:49:47,147
Speaker 36: week now is really improving my game, going in sharp

2096
01:49:47,467 --> 01:49:50,747
Speaker 36: and feeling good. So it's all about turning up here

2097
01:49:50,947 --> 01:49:52,747
Speaker 36: one showing my best arts on the other side of

2098
01:49:52,787 --> 01:49:55,987
Speaker 36: the world, and yeah, I'll keep them trying to improve.

2099
01:49:56,307 --> 01:49:58,587
Speaker 2: Have you always though, believed in your own ability? That's

2100
01:49:58,627 --> 01:50:00,627
Speaker 2: not something that's just happened in the last little while,

2101
01:50:00,747 --> 01:50:00,867
Speaker 2: is it.

2102
01:50:01,787 --> 01:50:01,827
Speaker 6: No?

2103
01:50:02,027 --> 01:50:05,747
Speaker 36: No, There's been obviously times over the last probably four

2104
01:50:05,787 --> 01:50:07,747
Speaker 36: or five years where I've felt down in the dumps

2105
01:50:07,827 --> 01:50:10,707
Speaker 36: and ready to walk away from the game. But I'm

2106
01:50:10,747 --> 01:50:13,067
Speaker 36: in the best possible mind state of the mina. I

2107
01:50:13,147 --> 01:50:16,627
Speaker 36: feel unbelievable with me darts. I'm enjoying it and walking

2108
01:50:16,627 --> 01:50:18,747
Speaker 36: around with a smile on my face and to get

2109
01:50:18,747 --> 01:50:21,027
Speaker 36: to come to these countries who can enjoy darts and

2110
01:50:21,667 --> 01:50:22,387
Speaker 36: I'm so happy.

2111
01:50:22,667 --> 01:50:25,267
Speaker 2: What keeps you going in the in the more challenging times.

2112
01:50:26,387 --> 01:50:28,827
Speaker 36: I think obviously it was well documented to seeing a

2113
01:50:28,987 --> 01:50:32,667
Speaker 36: sports psychologists and a hypnotist and and they've really changed

2114
01:50:32,707 --> 01:50:35,347
Speaker 36: my mindset the way I thought about the game and stuff,

2115
01:50:35,427 --> 01:50:37,987
Speaker 36: and obviously seeing the fans over the last few years

2116
01:50:38,747 --> 01:50:41,747
Speaker 36: it's been a massive help. Tearing up to tournaments and

2117
01:50:41,907 --> 01:50:45,747
Speaker 36: people shouting and chanting my name now being well number four,

2118
01:50:46,027 --> 01:50:48,547
Speaker 36: getting up to the high in the rankings, and keeping

2119
01:50:48,667 --> 01:50:52,987
Speaker 36: to improve, seeing that improvement in the backstages and on

2120
01:50:53,067 --> 01:50:54,227
Speaker 36: the biggest stages of the world.

2121
01:50:54,347 --> 01:50:56,467
Speaker 21: And yeah, I think that's really really helped.

2122
01:50:56,507 --> 01:50:59,627
Speaker 36: And obviously the darts is just getting bigger and bigger,

2123
01:50:59,667 --> 01:51:01,707
Speaker 36: and I'm one of the biggest names at the minute,

2124
01:51:02,347 --> 01:51:04,227
Speaker 36: well number four and just enjoying life.

2125
01:51:04,267 --> 01:51:07,667
Speaker 2: To be fair, how much of the sport is confidence?

2126
01:51:08,267 --> 01:51:09,307
Speaker 2: How important is that?

2127
01:51:10,667 --> 01:51:12,187
Speaker 21: I think it's the most important thing.

2128
01:51:12,947 --> 01:51:16,307
Speaker 36: Going in with any confidence, especially when it's high, you

2129
01:51:16,387 --> 01:51:20,107
Speaker 36: can win any single title you want. Obviously, the players,

2130
01:51:20,387 --> 01:51:24,107
Speaker 36: the standard of play now is increasing every year, so

2131
01:51:24,307 --> 01:51:25,907
Speaker 36: to keep up with that, we've got to work hard

2132
01:51:25,987 --> 01:51:28,667
Speaker 36: behind the scenes, do all the tournaments we can and

2133
01:51:28,747 --> 01:51:30,627
Speaker 36: make sure that we keep ourselves to the top of

2134
01:51:30,707 --> 01:51:34,187
Speaker 36: our game, and obviously winning breeds confidence. So I've won

2135
01:51:34,227 --> 01:51:36,627
Speaker 36: a few tournaments this year as well, which has rarely helped,

2136
01:51:36,707 --> 01:51:39,907
Speaker 36: and confidence sky high. Like I said, I'm coming into

2137
01:51:40,147 --> 01:51:43,227
Speaker 36: Australia and New Zealand on great forming a long way

2138
01:51:43,267 --> 01:51:44,267
Speaker 36: that continue.

2139
01:51:43,907 --> 01:51:47,867
Speaker 2: Absolutely right in Poland recently ran a rap to Goobin Price,

2140
01:51:47,907 --> 01:51:49,467
Speaker 2: but eight seven in the finals, so I could have

2141
01:51:49,467 --> 01:51:51,667
Speaker 2: gone either way. But on the way you beat Luke

2142
01:51:51,747 --> 01:51:54,027
Speaker 2: Littler and the semi's everything one hundred and four point

2143
01:51:54,067 --> 01:51:56,987
Speaker 2: one two terrific semi final. Tell us a bit about

2144
01:51:56,987 --> 01:51:57,347
Speaker 2: that match.

2145
01:51:58,427 --> 01:52:00,947
Speaker 36: Yeah, obviously, anytime you play Luke, you know you need

2146
01:52:01,027 --> 01:52:04,387
Speaker 36: to play to your best ability. He's such a fantastic

2147
01:52:04,467 --> 01:52:07,107
Speaker 36: player and he's the reason why it is so popular

2148
01:52:07,187 --> 01:52:09,587
Speaker 36: now at the minute, everyone speaks about Luke little and

2149
01:52:09,627 --> 01:52:13,027
Speaker 36: no matter watch sport you watch. So it was really

2150
01:52:13,067 --> 01:52:15,547
Speaker 36: important to get that win over him. I know I

2151
01:52:15,667 --> 01:52:18,707
Speaker 36: gave everything to that game, but he never went away.

2152
01:52:18,867 --> 01:52:20,467
Speaker 36: Even when I got on top of him, he was

2153
01:52:20,547 --> 01:52:23,987
Speaker 36: still clawing back, lawing back, And yeah, it's so important

2154
01:52:24,067 --> 01:52:26,747
Speaker 36: that when you get so far ahead of an opponent,

2155
01:52:26,907 --> 01:52:28,347
Speaker 36: you've got to finish them off, and that's what I

2156
01:52:28,427 --> 01:52:30,787
Speaker 36: was able to do. But he's such a great character.

2157
01:52:30,987 --> 01:52:33,827
Speaker 36: He's brilliant for our sports and We're going to have

2158
01:52:33,907 --> 01:52:35,627
Speaker 36: many more battles over the coming years.

2159
01:52:35,747 --> 01:52:38,067
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, of course you had one at at the

2160
01:52:38,107 --> 01:52:40,107
Speaker 2: World Champs at the start of the year in the

2161
01:52:40,187 --> 01:52:41,947
Speaker 2: in the semi finals. How do you reflect back on

2162
01:52:42,067 --> 01:52:44,587
Speaker 2: your on your most recent appearance at ELI Pelly in

2163
01:52:44,587 --> 01:52:46,587
Speaker 2: the World Champs right at the start of twenty twenty five.

2164
01:52:47,627 --> 01:52:49,907
Speaker 36: Yeah, I think that's been a catalyst, to be honest,

2165
01:52:49,947 --> 01:52:52,227
Speaker 36: to be able to move forward this season. I think

2166
01:52:52,307 --> 01:52:56,027
Speaker 36: obviously getting to the semifinals was a massive achievement for me,

2167
01:52:56,907 --> 01:52:59,227
Speaker 36: obviously pushing myself up the rankings back up.

2168
01:52:59,187 --> 01:53:01,627
Speaker 21: To well up to a world high of well on

2169
01:53:01,707 --> 01:53:02,147
Speaker 21: before now.

2170
01:53:02,307 --> 01:53:05,347
Speaker 36: So it's been really great, to be honest, it's been

2171
01:53:05,987 --> 01:53:08,507
Speaker 36: It's help me on the Well series getting back into

2172
01:53:08,587 --> 01:53:11,227
Speaker 36: that playing Premier League as well, which has been amazing.

2173
01:53:11,787 --> 01:53:14,067
Speaker 36: And obviously I know that I still need to work

2174
01:53:14,147 --> 01:53:16,027
Speaker 36: hard to be able to do this for the for

2175
01:53:16,147 --> 01:53:19,867
Speaker 36: the seeable future, and I'm trying to do that. And yeah,

2176
01:53:19,907 --> 01:53:22,907
Speaker 36: I'm sure PDCC how well I'm doing, and they they

2177
01:53:23,147 --> 01:53:26,187
Speaker 36: obviously looking after next year's already, so I want to

2178
01:53:26,267 --> 01:53:27,667
Speaker 36: be back in them. I want to be doing these

2179
01:53:27,707 --> 01:53:30,667
Speaker 36: well serdies year after year and I want to be

2180
01:53:30,707 --> 01:53:33,027
Speaker 36: competing at a daughter at the highest level, and that's

2181
01:53:33,027 --> 01:53:35,987
Speaker 36: what I'm going to try and do, and especially against

2182
01:53:36,027 --> 01:53:38,467
Speaker 36: these these young whipper snappers like Luke Little and who

2183
01:53:38,507 --> 01:53:41,107
Speaker 36: are coming through and other players who are there, It's

2184
01:53:41,147 --> 01:53:44,507
Speaker 36: going to be difficult. But yeah, I'm not getting any younger,

2185
01:53:44,707 --> 01:53:47,587
Speaker 36: but I'm getting more hungry to win titles.

2186
01:53:47,707 --> 01:53:50,587
Speaker 2: That Simmy, are you average ta hundred and that's semi

2187
01:53:51,507 --> 01:53:53,307
Speaker 2: How does it feel when you throw so well but

2188
01:53:53,627 --> 01:53:54,787
Speaker 2: but you still don't win.

2189
01:53:55,827 --> 01:53:58,947
Speaker 36: You've just got to take your hat off, to be honest, obviously,

2190
01:53:59,427 --> 01:54:01,347
Speaker 36: when when I know that I'm playing well, I can't

2191
01:54:01,347 --> 01:54:02,667
Speaker 36: get up too upset in the game.

2192
01:54:02,747 --> 01:54:02,987
Speaker 21: I can.

2193
01:54:03,307 --> 01:54:05,267
Speaker 36: I've come away from that game, to be honest, I was.

2194
01:54:05,387 --> 01:54:07,507
Speaker 36: I was upset that a lot, but I think the

2195
01:54:07,587 --> 01:54:10,467
Speaker 36: performance levels I took a lot of confidence away from that,

2196
01:54:10,907 --> 01:54:13,547
Speaker 36: which helped me build towards the rest of the season.

2197
01:54:14,027 --> 01:54:15,907
Speaker 36: As you've seen, I've won a few titles this year

2198
01:54:15,907 --> 01:54:18,667
Speaker 36: as well, the World Series titles and stuff. So yeah,

2199
01:54:18,707 --> 01:54:21,707
Speaker 36: I'm really happy with the way we form is consistent

2200
01:54:21,787 --> 01:54:23,987
Speaker 36: wise as well. I'm one of the most consistent on

2201
01:54:24,067 --> 01:54:26,667
Speaker 36: the on the on the tour at the minute, and

2202
01:54:26,787 --> 01:54:29,587
Speaker 36: that makes me dangerous And yeah, I just I just

2203
01:54:29,667 --> 01:54:31,827
Speaker 36: feel like I'm part of the part of the PDC

2204
01:54:32,027 --> 01:54:35,667
Speaker 36: now Top four, playing Premier League, all the well sadies,

2205
01:54:35,747 --> 01:54:38,267
Speaker 36: and yeah, it's a great time to be a dark

2206
01:54:38,347 --> 01:54:40,747
Speaker 36: player as well, and I'm just reaping the rewards and

2207
01:54:40,867 --> 01:54:41,747
Speaker 36: enjoying every little bit.

2208
01:54:42,027 --> 01:54:45,347
Speaker 2: You'll walk on song one of the Beast Titanium. How

2209
01:54:45,427 --> 01:54:46,427
Speaker 2: did you land on that song?

2210
01:54:47,827 --> 01:54:52,547
Speaker 36: Yeah, it's my son's favorite song, so obviously the bulletproof

2211
01:54:52,627 --> 01:54:56,187
Speaker 36: tagline and nothing to Lose it sort of fits really

2212
01:54:56,267 --> 01:54:59,067
Speaker 36: really well. And yeah, that was that was a big

2213
01:54:59,187 --> 01:55:03,227
Speaker 36: part of moving forward, trying to rebrand myself. I've gained

2214
01:55:03,267 --> 01:55:05,187
Speaker 36: a lot of fans with the walk on and stuff,

2215
01:55:05,307 --> 01:55:08,507
Speaker 36: and lots of people know me now just for the

2216
01:55:08,587 --> 01:55:10,827
Speaker 36: walk on, I think I needed to get away from

2217
01:55:10,827 --> 01:55:12,587
Speaker 36: the family I walk on as well. It was a

2218
01:55:12,667 --> 01:55:16,667
Speaker 36: bit too gimmicky and stuff. So I'm glad I've done that,

2219
01:55:16,747 --> 01:55:18,827
Speaker 36: and I've got a proper song now that everyone can

2220
01:55:18,867 --> 01:55:22,147
Speaker 36: relate to. When everyone hears it now they know it's

2221
01:55:22,227 --> 01:55:24,107
Speaker 36: my song. And yeah, it's amazing.

2222
01:55:24,347 --> 01:55:27,227
Speaker 2: You talk about a rebrand there, and look, you've become

2223
01:55:27,627 --> 01:55:30,507
Speaker 2: a viral sensation on social media, TikTok and all of

2224
01:55:30,547 --> 01:55:33,067
Speaker 2: the others as well. How important is that, you know,

2225
01:55:33,227 --> 01:55:36,307
Speaker 2: to increase your own profile but also the profile of

2226
01:55:36,347 --> 01:55:37,187
Speaker 2: the sport itself.

2227
01:55:38,267 --> 01:55:41,107
Speaker 36: Yeah, I know, it's massive, and it's about showing your

2228
01:55:41,147 --> 01:55:46,027
Speaker 36: personality as well. It's nothing's feet, everything's theirs real. I'm

2229
01:55:46,147 --> 01:55:48,587
Speaker 36: just a normal lad who's living his dream, to be honest,

2230
01:55:48,627 --> 01:55:51,187
Speaker 36: and it's nice to be able to show everyone, especially

2231
01:55:51,227 --> 01:55:53,547
Speaker 36: on like TikTok is. It's all a bit of fun,

2232
01:55:53,987 --> 01:55:57,147
Speaker 36: but it's my personality and it's showing people a different

2233
01:55:57,227 --> 01:55:59,187
Speaker 36: side to the darts as well. I'm not just a

2234
01:55:59,267 --> 01:56:02,467
Speaker 36: dark player. I'm a normal person and it's nice to

2235
01:56:02,507 --> 01:56:04,227
Speaker 36: show people what we can do as well. There'll be

2236
01:56:04,667 --> 01:56:06,907
Speaker 36: some funny stuff coming on me YouTube over the next

2237
01:56:07,147 --> 01:56:09,867
Speaker 36: next year or so, so there's We've got a lot

2238
01:56:09,907 --> 01:56:12,827
Speaker 36: of things planned. But obviously I'm first and foremost. I

2239
01:56:12,907 --> 01:56:14,267
Speaker 36: want to I want to do well on the darts

2240
01:56:14,307 --> 01:56:15,867
Speaker 36: as well and keep you profile high on that.

2241
01:56:16,387 --> 01:56:20,427
Speaker 2: What's the camaraderie like among the world's top players as

2242
01:56:20,507 --> 01:56:23,707
Speaker 2: you move around all over the globe now to play, Yeah,

2243
01:56:24,027 --> 01:56:24,507
Speaker 2: all all.

2244
01:56:24,427 --> 01:56:27,787
Speaker 36: The players are rarely friendly, to be honest. We see

2245
01:56:27,787 --> 01:56:30,987
Speaker 36: each other more than family, so we are pretty much

2246
01:56:31,027 --> 01:56:34,547
Speaker 36: one big family to be fair, and we play that

2247
01:56:34,707 --> 01:56:37,987
Speaker 36: much darts together. We know each other's dietary requirements, to

2248
01:56:38,067 --> 01:56:41,027
Speaker 36: be honest, so yeah, we get along really well. It's great,

2249
01:56:41,707 --> 01:56:44,227
Speaker 36: great camaradi we have. But obviously when we get up

2250
01:56:44,267 --> 01:56:45,987
Speaker 36: on them stages, we want to beat each other. So

2251
01:56:46,347 --> 01:56:48,107
Speaker 36: we can't get too paliu when we're up on the

2252
01:56:48,147 --> 01:56:51,547
Speaker 36: stages because yeah, they're taking the money out of my pocket.

2253
01:56:53,387 --> 01:56:55,987
Speaker 2: Here's your favorite double? Changed much over the.

2254
01:56:56,027 --> 01:56:59,427
Speaker 36: Years, And yeah, I would say so because I keep

2255
01:56:59,467 --> 01:57:03,787
Speaker 36: missing double sixteen, So double top and double sixteen, I

2256
01:57:03,867 --> 01:57:07,227
Speaker 36: mean me too, my favorite. But I think any double

2257
01:57:07,307 --> 01:57:09,627
Speaker 36: I can hit his favorite, to be honest at the minute.

2258
01:57:09,547 --> 01:57:12,027
Speaker 2: Is there any double that not just you but players

2259
01:57:12,067 --> 01:57:13,667
Speaker 2: don't like it? On a double three as I don't know,

2260
01:57:13,747 --> 01:57:16,307
Speaker 2: is there any double that you really don't like?

2261
01:57:16,987 --> 01:57:18,667
Speaker 36: I think double one's got to be one of them,

2262
01:57:18,987 --> 01:57:21,187
Speaker 36: although sometimes we do end up on Numble one waite

2263
01:57:21,227 --> 01:57:24,347
Speaker 36: a lot. But yeah, it's a bit of a scary double.

2264
01:57:24,387 --> 01:57:26,147
Speaker 36: If you come inside, you bust and there's no other

2265
01:57:26,467 --> 01:57:29,987
Speaker 36: other goal. So yeah, i'd say double one or double three.

2266
01:57:30,067 --> 01:57:33,147
Speaker 36: As you said, you come inside, you've left three, it's

2267
01:57:33,187 --> 01:57:35,467
Speaker 36: a bit more awkward, So yeah, double three or double one,

2268
01:57:35,467 --> 01:57:35,947
Speaker 36: I would say.

2269
01:57:36,107 --> 01:57:38,027
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you here in Auckland for

2270
01:57:38,107 --> 01:57:41,827
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Darts Masters. Stephen A delight to check

2271
01:57:41,907 --> 01:57:44,027
Speaker 2: you made all the best in Australia first and can't

2272
01:57:44,067 --> 01:57:45,427
Speaker 2: wait to see you when you get here. Thank you

2273
01:57:45,547 --> 01:57:48,107
Speaker 2: any much, No, thank you, Steven. Stephen Bunting, the world's

2274
01:57:48,147 --> 01:57:51,227
Speaker 2: number four darts player, part of the incoming star Power

2275
01:57:51,307 --> 01:57:54,627
Speaker 2: for the New Zealand Darts Masters in Auckland next Friday

2276
01:57:54,747 --> 01:57:57,747
Speaker 2: and Saturday two forty five. Alright, let's play a sporting

2277
01:57:57,867 --> 01:58:00,467
Speaker 2: chance with the tab. Every week we place a one

2278
01:58:00,587 --> 01:58:03,387
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet on behalf of a

2279
01:58:03,467 --> 01:58:06,987
Speaker 2: lucky caller if it comes home. The winnings minus the

2280
01:58:07,027 --> 01:58:09,467
Speaker 2: initial one fifty, of course, are all yours. I'm going

2281
01:58:09,547 --> 01:58:13,107
Speaker 2: to offer you the chance of three bets short, evans

2282
01:58:13,587 --> 01:58:16,027
Speaker 2: or long. You decide which one you want, will place

2283
01:58:16,067 --> 01:58:17,947
Speaker 2: the bit for you. You must be over eighteen if

2284
01:58:17,987 --> 01:58:20,027
Speaker 2: you are called now at eight hundred and eighty ten.

2285
01:58:19,987 --> 01:58:24,187
Speaker 1: Eighty The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with

2286
01:58:24,387 --> 01:58:28,307
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2287
01:58:28,347 --> 01:58:29,627
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2288
01:58:32,547 --> 01:58:35,987
Speaker 3: It's time for a sporting chance thanks to tab.

2289
01:58:39,467 --> 01:58:43,827
Speaker 2: Good day, Greg, Hey, funny a game, good Greg. Okay, mate,

2290
01:58:43,867 --> 01:58:45,867
Speaker 2: here's how it works. I'm going to give you the

2291
01:58:45,947 --> 01:58:49,267
Speaker 2: choice of three bets, Short, Evans and long. You've gotta

2292
01:58:49,347 --> 01:58:52,347
Speaker 2: choose which one you want and we'll take it from there.

2293
01:58:52,747 --> 01:58:53,987
Speaker 2: Is that easy enough to understand?

2294
01:58:54,867 --> 01:58:54,907
Speaker 9: That?

2295
01:58:55,107 --> 01:58:55,467
Speaker 10: Certainly?

2296
01:58:55,547 --> 01:58:56,547
Speaker 2: Is okay?

2297
01:58:56,787 --> 01:58:57,027
Speaker 9: Sure?

2298
01:58:58,107 --> 01:59:01,947
Speaker 2: All right? Here's the short. Here's the short one NRL Warriors,

2299
01:59:01,987 --> 01:59:05,627
Speaker 2: Bord Warriors, Borlldogs, Tonight, dell and Y Tennis a Lesni Act.

2300
01:59:05,667 --> 01:59:08,387
Speaker 2: To score a try at any time, it's paying two

2301
01:59:08,507 --> 01:59:13,307
Speaker 2: thirty five. That would get three fifty two fifty minus

2302
01:59:13,347 --> 01:59:15,387
Speaker 2: the one fifty, so you'd collected about two hundred and

2303
01:59:15,427 --> 01:59:18,387
Speaker 2: two dollars. All right, So that's the short. Dellan to

2304
01:59:18,467 --> 01:59:23,987
Speaker 2: score a try at any stage. Evans NPC, Canterbury, Auckland,

2305
01:59:24,027 --> 01:59:28,427
Speaker 2: Tonight Auckland to win by one to twelve, it's paying

2306
01:59:28,547 --> 01:59:32,147
Speaker 2: four twenty, which means six hundred and thirty minus the

2307
01:59:32,187 --> 01:59:35,667
Speaker 2: one fifty. You would get four hundred and eighty if

2308
01:59:35,707 --> 01:59:36,427
Speaker 2: that comes off.

2309
01:59:37,467 --> 01:59:37,987
Speaker 29: And Long.

2310
01:59:39,107 --> 01:59:44,187
Speaker 2: Championship Football in the UK Wrexham against Southampton. Libby Cacacy

2311
01:59:44,347 --> 01:59:47,347
Speaker 2: the keiw plays for Wrexham now to score on his

2312
01:59:47,467 --> 01:59:52,347
Speaker 2: Rexham debut. He's paying fifteen dollars, so that's twenty two

2313
01:59:52,387 --> 01:59:55,227
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty minus the one fifty you'd get twenty

2314
01:59:55,267 --> 01:59:59,467
Speaker 2: one hundred. All right, So Dallan Tennis alesni act to

2315
01:59:59,507 --> 02:00:03,227
Speaker 2: score a try, Auckland to beat Canterbury by one to twelve,

2316
02:00:04,147 --> 02:00:07,267
Speaker 2: or Libby Cacaci to score a goal on his Wrexham debut.

2317
02:00:07,387 --> 02:00:08,387
Speaker 2: Which are the three d you like?

2318
02:00:09,307 --> 02:00:09,467
Speaker 6: Oh?

2319
02:00:09,587 --> 02:00:11,587
Speaker 24: It's I think the Reekson one's out.

2320
02:00:11,667 --> 02:00:13,507
Speaker 10: I can't see that. The defense might be.

2321
02:00:13,547 --> 02:00:14,107
Speaker 29: Too hard for that.

2322
02:00:14,627 --> 02:00:15,307
Speaker 9: All right, let's go.

2323
02:00:16,907 --> 02:00:20,227
Speaker 10: Oh, let's go Auckland to.

2324
02:00:20,227 --> 02:00:23,307
Speaker 2: Win, Auckland to beat Canterbury one to twelve. The games

2325
02:00:23,347 --> 02:00:25,747
Speaker 2: in christ Church. You're still happy enough? The games in

2326
02:00:25,867 --> 02:00:28,667
Speaker 2: christ Church? Yep, all right?

2327
02:00:29,947 --> 02:00:30,267
Speaker 21: Why not?

2328
02:00:30,587 --> 02:00:33,467
Speaker 2: Why not? It's paying four dollars twenty for Auckland to

2329
02:00:33,547 --> 02:00:36,187
Speaker 2: win by one to twelve, So four twenty times the

2330
02:00:36,227 --> 02:00:38,547
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bonus bit six hundred and thirty.

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Speaker 2: Take off the one fifty greg you'd be collecting four

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty. If Auckland beat Canterbury one to twelve tonight, that.

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Speaker 13: Would be amazing.

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Speaker 2: It would be for you and for Auckland.

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Speaker 24: So much.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say do you normally cheer? Where are

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Speaker 2: you calling from?

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Speaker 8: Just on my way home?

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Speaker 11: Just in.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff? Oh good god. Well you can cheer for

2341
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Speaker 2: Auckland tonight. I normally wouldn't allow it from a fellow Wellingtonian,

2342
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Speaker 2: but I'll allow you to cheer for Auckland tonight by

2343
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Speaker 2: one by one to twelve.

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Speaker 27: Mate.

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Speaker 13: Excellent, Thanks for that, Bunny.

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Speaker 2: Norah's Greg. Just stay there. I think we've got your details.

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Speaker 2: Bevan will just check that with you, but we'll place

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Speaker 2: the bet and keep our fingers crossed. If you get

2349
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Speaker 2: a result. Those winnings are yours. Will do it again

2350
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Speaker 2: next week thanks to our mates at the tab. As always,

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Speaker 2: please bet responsibly eight away from.

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Speaker 1: Three, analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

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Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason.

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Speaker 3: Five call eight hundred and eighty and eighty US talks eNB.

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Speaker 2: Five to three. That's pretty much us for today. Quickly

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Speaker 2: get head to tomorrow's show Warriors. We'll unpack that after midday.

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Speaker 2: Whatever happens, whatever happens, we'll talk about it tomorrow. After midday.

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Speaker 2: Mark Robinson, CEO of New Zealand Rugby's on the show.

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Speaker 2: We'll get inside the black Ferns and the Tall Blacks

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Speaker 2: camps as well, and chat about anything that comes up

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Speaker 2: in the next twenty one hours or so. Tim Beverage

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Speaker 2: after three o'clock. Huge thanks to Bevan Dure for producing today.

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Speaker 2: What's your choice of exit song today?

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Speaker 21: Mate?

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Speaker 2: I chose to make it.

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Speaker 35: With Chew Bay the Queens of the Story Age, just

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Speaker 35: because it.

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Speaker 2: Was the quickest thing I could find. Piney, well, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Expedience is a good thing. Thanks for your right help

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Speaker 2: this afternoon, Bib. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live

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