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Speaker 2: Hello you great new Zellers, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, forty two four Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the tenth of June twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Now, you came up with a new law today called

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Speaker 3: Heath's law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Heath's law. If you inject Trump unnecessarily into a

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Speaker 2: conversation because you suffer so badly from TDS that you

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Speaker 2: can't think of anything else, then we will ignore you.

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Speaker 3: It's a great law.

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Speaker 2: It's like Godwin's law when people immediately jump to bringing

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Speaker 2: in the events of the late nineteen thirties into forties

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Speaker 2: in any conversation. She harned in it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to catch on. Yeah, and wait till you hear

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Speaker 3: what sparked that off. It was good, good conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Heath Law. And then we also talk about Statham's Law

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Speaker 3: as well. That's so it's an interesting show. Download, subscribe,

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Speaker 2: know how lucky we are, mate, Love you the big stories, the.

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Speaker 1: Big issues, the big trends and everything in between. Matt

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Speaker 1: Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show on

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Speaker 3: this Tuesday. I hope you're doing well wherever you're listening

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Speaker 3: in the country. Get a mate, get a Tyler Gooday

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Speaker 3: or your great New Zealanders. I've said this before and

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Speaker 3: I'll say it again that news Talks HEB has the

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Speaker 3: smartest listeners.

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Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two is better than any ai, better

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Speaker 2: than any search engine, better than Shazam. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 2: tried to sing this baseline I was talking about into Shazam,

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Speaker 2: the app that can tell you what song is playing,

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Speaker 2: and I had no idea what was going on, but

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Speaker 2: I sung it into the mic and newsport Talk ZB

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Speaker 2: listeners came back. What I sung into the mic was

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Speaker 2: dn't d d d d d dirded d d d

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Speaker 2: d dn't And I said, what's that song?

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Speaker 3: So impossible? So Sarah told you to get lost. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about, mat Ai, I said,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell you're you're singing there,

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Speaker 3: but nine two nine two yeah, real.

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Speaker 2: And this is all on the back of Funk Master

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Speaker 2: Sliced Loane passing away. Yes, and I see, I see

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Speaker 2: as I see, I see as I say, as I say,

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Speaker 2: as I says. I'm pretty sure that's not a slow

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Speaker 2: in the family Stone song. But someone came through on

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Speaker 2: nine two nine two, and it is this fantastics one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest baselines of all time. It's not a

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Speaker 2: complicated funk baseline, and it's not a lot like other

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Speaker 2: funk baselines, but the way it sits in the pocket,

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Speaker 2: it's just so beautiful. Here we go. Are you ready?

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Speaker 4: Sixy such a beautiful baseline.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is very funky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the song if you want me to stay

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Speaker 2: by flying the family Stone and so rip to sly

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Speaker 2: Stone who passed away at eighty one.

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Speaker 3: I believe now I've heard it. You actually did a

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Speaker 3: pretty good job at ed trying to sing it. So

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Speaker 2: New Zealand band Dimmer released a song with the baseline

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Speaker 2: that was a tribute to this call get What You Give,

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Speaker 2: which is also a great song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that is good to put to bed because

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Speaker 3: that was doing your hidden Listen.

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Speaker 2: To this text. Shut up, Matt, don't want to hear

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Speaker 2: your singing. Shut up, you mup at your tone death.

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Speaker 2: I hate you stop singing. That's not very nice. After

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Speaker 2: I've complimented the nine two nine two people come through

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Speaker 2: there and I'd say to those texts, or if I'm

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Speaker 2: it out from my baseline exactly?

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Speaker 3: But that's what happens on the text machine. You give

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Speaker 2: Oh you poor person, that ends in eight six. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, be happy. What a great tune, though, great tune,

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Speaker 2: Either you go slan in the family stone on the

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Speaker 2: great Funk. I'll tell you what will make you happy.

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Speaker 3: Though. We've got a fantastic show today after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a good chat. It's been

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Speaker 3: All was associated with that house?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, or the vice versa someone terrible living

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Speaker 3: That is after three o'clock, After two o'clock? Are we

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Speaker 3: just a bunch of wines when it comes to life

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Speaker 2: So if people come to New Zealand and you see

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Speaker 2: are we just a bunch of wines in New Zealand?

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Speaker 2: All we hear is how bad it is here and

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Speaker 2: how everyone's rushing off to Australia. But is it just

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Speaker 2: a comparison? Is the thief of joy? Grasses green or rubbish?

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Speaker 2: If migrants to our country we can enjoy our place

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Speaker 2: and see the worth in it. Why are we failing

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Speaker 2: becoming a nation of complainers and wedges and everything else.

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Speaker 2: Everything is other people's fault.

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Speaker 3: Yeap, that is after two o'clock. That's going to be

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Speaker 3: a great chat. And right now, let's have a chat

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Speaker 3: about corruption. New Zealand is becoming more corrupt. We've dropped

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Speaker 3: four places down the list from being the least corrupt

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Speaker 3: increasingly in a vulnerable position to greater threats. Organized crime

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Speaker 3: groups have become more sophisticated insiders. We're increasingly being used

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, oh Z one hundred and eighty teen eighty.

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Speaker 2: Have you experienced more corruption in New Zealand? Have you

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Speaker 2: been approached by someone? Because one way that the corruption

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Speaker 2: plays out is people organized crime approaching people in customs

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Speaker 2: And if you are approached, what should you do? Or

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Speaker 2: if you do see corruption, what should you do, should

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Speaker 2: you report it? And to who? And sometimes you know,

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Speaker 2: people are in a vulnerable position when they are approached.

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Speaker 2: You know, perhaps they've got gambling debts, or perhaps this

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Speaker 2: a problem. And let's be honest, we pay people pretty poorly.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the people that are at this front

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Speaker 2: be approached by people that are look at organized crime,

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Speaker 2: that are looking to get stuff into our country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. There's no doubt there will be someone listening

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Speaker 3: right now that has been approached, and we'd love to

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Speaker 3: hear from you. We can use a pseudonym, we can

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Speaker 3: protect your identity, but we're really keen to have a

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Speaker 3: chat with you if you've ever been approached with someone

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Speaker 2: Texas is Matt. You have the voice of an angel.

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Speaker 2: I cried, it was so beautiful. You're singing of that bassline?

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Speaker 3: So who's that from?

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Speaker 2: So what? I don't make up text from Tracy? I

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Speaker 2: don't make up texts. Excuse me? You're making that text.

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Speaker 3: You've got a good voice, bade good voice right. Coming

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Speaker 3: up very shortly, we are going to have a chat

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Speaker 3: to Jared Savage. He wrote this story about increasing corruption

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand. If you've got a question for Jared,

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Speaker 3: you can tax that through to nine two nine two.

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Speaker 3: But he's investigation investigative reporter and looking forward to having

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Speaker 3: to chat with him very shortly thirteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. So corruption by organized crime groups is

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Speaker 3: a real and growing threat in New Zealand. To discuss this,

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Speaker 3: we're joined by investigative reporter with the New Zealand hereld

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Speaker 3: Jared Savage. Jared's very good afternoon to you. Thanks for

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Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon, guys.

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Speaker 2: M Zealand more vulnerable to corruption than before.

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Speaker 5: Jared, Well, basically we've got more and more of these

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Speaker 5: really sophisticated organized crime groups from based on the seas

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Speaker 5: working lists with local groups here to distribute drugs in

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Speaker 5: New Zealand is a very lucrative market for the drugs.

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Speaker 5: One of the best ways to keep drugs through the

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Speaker 5: country it's quite helpful if you've got somebody working in

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Speaker 5: by customs or the police. And I just think, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're sort of New Zealand's probably a little bit behind

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Speaker 2: The organized crime playbook in terms of recruitment for these

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Speaker 2: inside jobs, Who do they target and.

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Speaker 5: How well it's a lot of these jobs to say

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Speaker 5: you're a Steve Adore at the port, or you're banging

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Speaker 5: camera at the airport generally sort of lower paying jobs,

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Speaker 5: so you're quite susceptible to somebody offering you ten, twenty

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Speaker 5: or thirty thousand dollars to sort of help, you know,

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Speaker 5: a beg on the plane. A lot of these sort

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Speaker 5: of it's not like someone wakes up one morning and

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Speaker 5: A lot of these sort of relationships actually start off

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Speaker 5: of like family ties. So you know, somebody will know

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Speaker 5: somebody will know somebody in the airport or in the port,

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Speaker 5: and they'll introduce them. It's not like a cold call

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Speaker 5: necessarily straight off the street. There'll be some kind of

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Speaker 5: existing relationship there moving onto small place, you know, tvgrees

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Speaker 5: of separation, and you know if somebody, you know, if

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Speaker 5: someone says, hey, look, can you get a bag through

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Speaker 5: without telling you what's on it? You know, by the way,

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Speaker 5: he's twenty thousand dollars in your troubles. You know, if

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Speaker 5: you're any min I'm a wage, that'll be quite a

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Speaker 5: quite an attractive proposition, you know.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of family ties, famously, drug cartels will threaten family

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Speaker 2: members to make them do things. Has it reached that level?

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Speaker 2: Now do this or your mum dies.

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Speaker 6: I haven't heard anything quite like that yet, but I

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Speaker 6: mean there's always that fear, you know, that the coersion

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Speaker 6: of particularly maybe maybe you do start, you know, helping

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Speaker 6: out and bringing a few bags through or whatever, and

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Speaker 6: then you just try to stop. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 6: think it would be very hard to stop because they're

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Speaker 2: And then new article you suggest that essential anti corruption

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so this was the idea of the advisory group.

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Speaker 5: And then refer those cases to be for further investigation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those things we're getting zelands and keywis.

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Speaker 2: What should key we's be looking out for and who

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Speaker 6: Jared Well, I guess, I mean, you're not going to

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, who do you call? Because if you're

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Speaker 5: Right, So having having having a sensible.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred gangs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a good good number to you.

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Speaker 2: Give me a call, yes, yeah, well just before you go. Yeah, Jared,

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Speaker 2: his books are Gangland and Gang parat Us are excellent read.

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Speaker 2: So I thoroughly recommend your work.

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Speaker 3: Jared. Thank you very much for having to chat with

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Speaker 3: us and fantastic work on the story. And you can

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Speaker 3: website will check again soon.

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Speaker 3: That is investigative reporter Jared Savage A Savage so we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can do it anonymous, anonymously absolutely. Our eight

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Speaker 7: Breakfast the news from education as we find out we

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Speaker 7: Education Minister Erica Stamford's well as what's the breakdown at

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty seven past one. We are becoming more

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Speaker 3: if you have been approach that you've seen corruption. Oh

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Speaker 10: We are a country that's become incorrupt. We were proudly

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Speaker 10: more than that, I think what we're seeing is we

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Speaker 2: Snitch said this text there you go. Yep, you guys

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Speaker 1: One you talk, sa'd be headlines.

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Speaker 11: Emission's trading Scheme, Todd McClay says it will still let

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Speaker 11: finally released. Search for yours on the interactive at in

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Speaker 2: I'm solo.

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Speaker 12: I'm captain in the Millennium Falcon. Chewie here tells me

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Speaker 13: Years Indeed, if it's a fast ship, fast ship, you've

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Speaker 13: never heard of the Millennium Falcon, should I have?

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Speaker 12: It's a ship that made the castle run in less

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Speaker 12: Karellian ships. Now, what's the cargo?

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Speaker 13: Only passengers myself the boy to DREI have no questions asked.

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Speaker 11: What is it?

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Speaker 12: Some kind of local trouble.

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Speaker 2: Thank god. I mean that's terrible corruption. I be word

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Speaker 2: corruption at Massilicely Spaceport and Tatouine. I mean, if Tatouine

436
00:22:15,973 --> 00:22:19,093
Speaker 2: and Massily Spaceport can be targeted with that kind of

437
00:22:20,053 --> 00:22:23,493
Speaker 2: smuggling and corruption and not wanting imperial intanglements, then what

438
00:22:23,573 --> 00:22:25,093
Speaker 2: hoped in New Zealand's ports.

439
00:22:24,973 --> 00:22:28,213
Speaker 3: Exactly a Jedi knight of all people. But that is

440
00:22:28,253 --> 00:22:31,253
Speaker 3: exactly what we're talking about corruption in New Zealand, and

441
00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:35,013
Speaker 3: sadly our corruption levels are increasing. We've dropped down the

442
00:22:35,013 --> 00:22:37,813
Speaker 3: list internationally. We were number one in terms of the

443
00:22:37,893 --> 00:22:40,293
Speaker 3: least corrupt nation in the world. We're now number four,

444
00:22:40,653 --> 00:22:43,453
Speaker 3: and experts say we're going to continue dropping because we've

445
00:22:43,453 --> 00:22:47,413
Speaker 3: been naive and organized criminal groups who are very sophisticated

446
00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:50,973
Speaker 3: are taking advantage of us and using insiders more and

447
00:22:51,053 --> 00:22:54,973
Speaker 3: more at the ports, at the airports, and also in

448
00:22:55,013 --> 00:22:56,173
Speaker 3: public institutions.

449
00:22:56,293 --> 00:22:58,853
Speaker 2: I know some prison guards, says this text, get paid

450
00:22:58,893 --> 00:23:01,373
Speaker 2: five K for smuggling a cartoon of cities into prisons.

451
00:23:01,453 --> 00:23:04,173
Speaker 2: Guards are not allowed to be personally searched if suspected,

452
00:23:04,573 --> 00:23:06,493
Speaker 2: only their lunch box and bag can be searched. Do

453
00:23:06,533 --> 00:23:09,813
Speaker 2: it four times a year. There's twenty K, So you

454
00:23:09,853 --> 00:23:11,933
Speaker 2: know that's corruption on a I mean, I think we've

455
00:23:11,973 --> 00:23:13,533
Speaker 2: all known that that's been happening in prisons for a

456
00:23:13,573 --> 00:23:16,613
Speaker 2: long time. I'm always surprised how much stuff is in

457
00:23:16,653 --> 00:23:20,213
Speaker 2: prison and how it gets there. I remember I remember

458
00:23:20,373 --> 00:23:22,653
Speaker 2: for a while I was in the news around Mount

459
00:23:22,773 --> 00:23:25,052
Speaker 2: Eden Prison where people were just driving past and haffing

460
00:23:25,133 --> 00:23:25,893
Speaker 2: stuff over the.

461
00:23:26,133 --> 00:23:28,613
Speaker 3: Over the walls that stripes. That was an easy way

462
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Speaker 3: to get some guns.

463
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Speaker 2: Would you call that corruption? Just driving down Boston Road

464
00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:36,173
Speaker 2: and having some drugs over. I don't know if that's

465
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Speaker 2: a corruption, but I find really interesting because you know,

466
00:23:39,773 --> 00:23:43,253
Speaker 2: when we were talking to Jared Savage before, and you know,

467
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Speaker 2: the idea of who would you approach if someone approached you,

468
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Speaker 2: if say you were a baggage handler, or if you're

469
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Speaker 2: working on the ports, or you're someone that could you know,

470
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Speaker 2: you know, put a blind eye across things coming to

471
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Speaker 2: the country. And a lot of people have said that

472
00:23:59,413 --> 00:24:01,453
Speaker 2: you shouldn't say anything. As we said at the text

473
00:24:01,533 --> 00:24:04,853
Speaker 2: four keys don't snitch? Are you asking us to become narks?

474
00:24:05,253 --> 00:24:05,333
Speaker 8: Now?

475
00:24:05,533 --> 00:24:08,333
Speaker 2: Dobbing people in isn't the New Zealand waste? Is this text?

476
00:24:08,973 --> 00:24:12,453
Speaker 2: Snitches get stitches if someone approaches you, says this text

477
00:24:12,533 --> 00:24:14,853
Speaker 2: to say no, but don't call the cops too much trouble.

478
00:24:14,933 --> 00:24:17,053
Speaker 2: It is not your problem. The sticks says, I don't

479
00:24:17,053 --> 00:24:19,093
Speaker 2: take drugs, so why do I care if other idiots do.

480
00:24:19,173 --> 00:24:20,893
Speaker 2: Let them bring it in. Idiots can take it and

481
00:24:20,933 --> 00:24:21,893
Speaker 2: smuggle it. Who cares?

482
00:24:21,973 --> 00:24:24,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this one if you want to stay happy

483
00:24:24,133 --> 00:24:29,453
Speaker 3: and healthy, mind your business. It ain't the movies fellas whoo.

484
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Speaker 2: So is that what we are because that is by

485
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Speaker 2: far the biggest comment that we've got on the text machine.

486
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Speaker 2: And look, I wanted people to ring on eight hundred

487
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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty and tell us if they'd seen anything,

488
00:24:41,613 --> 00:24:43,813
Speaker 2: and especially if they've been close to it at the

489
00:24:43,813 --> 00:24:47,133
Speaker 2: ports or an airport or had been approached. And you know,

490
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Speaker 2: no one's calling in on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

491
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Speaker 2: It might have been a little bit of a pipe

492
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Speaker 2: dream that there would happen.

493
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Speaker 3: Literally, we're getting a lot of tech.

494
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Speaker 2: But is that because people, yea, we're getting hundreds hundreds

495
00:24:56,573 --> 00:24:58,613
Speaker 2: of text telling us this thing? Is that because people

496
00:24:58,613 --> 00:25:03,453
Speaker 2: in New Zealand generally believe that you shouldn't snitch on someone,

497
00:25:04,213 --> 00:25:06,933
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be a n arc and that you

498
00:25:06,933 --> 00:25:09,013
Speaker 2: should turn a blind eye to Uh.

499
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Speaker 3: Corruption depends on the level. But I think it is

500
00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:15,133
Speaker 3: a little bit of New Zealand culture that you don't

501
00:25:15,253 --> 00:25:22,733
Speaker 3: dob on people for what could be seen as minor infractions. Yeah,

502
00:25:22,773 --> 00:25:25,373
Speaker 3: you know, you wouldn't dob on your neighbor for I

503
00:25:25,453 --> 00:25:27,773
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe chopping down a tree for example, that

504
00:25:27,813 --> 00:25:30,493
Speaker 3: he shouldn't chop down. Most people, I think in New

505
00:25:30,573 --> 00:25:33,053
Speaker 3: Zealand would look at that and say, would idb on

506
00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:35,893
Speaker 3: that person? Or there'll be a lot of people that

507
00:25:35,933 --> 00:25:38,373
Speaker 3: think we're the opposite, you know. The Karen comes to

508
00:25:38,413 --> 00:25:41,453
Speaker 3: mind that we're a bunch of busy bodies. But I

509
00:25:41,493 --> 00:25:43,853
Speaker 3: actually think it's more ingrained that we don't dob on people.

510
00:25:43,853 --> 00:25:47,893
Speaker 3: We don't knak, we don't you know, snitches get stitches scenario.

511
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Speaker 2: But what about in Lockdown where the whole nation turned

512
00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:53,733
Speaker 2: into a bunch of narks, Yeah and dobbing in their neighbors.

513
00:25:54,133 --> 00:25:55,973
Speaker 2: That was a weird turn of events, wasn't it it.

514
00:25:56,613 --> 00:25:58,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it was like you putting your you know,

515
00:25:58,533 --> 00:26:01,373
Speaker 3: some of your rubbish and your neighbor's bins that I

516
00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:03,733
Speaker 3: would I would suspect that even if a neighbor saw you,

517
00:26:03,813 --> 00:26:08,253
Speaker 3: if they dobbed you in it's bad New Zealander. Yeah, oh,

518
00:26:08,693 --> 00:26:11,053
Speaker 3: or are you the bad New Zealander for actually using

519
00:26:11,133 --> 00:26:12,653
Speaker 3: their rubbish bin in the first place? But you know

520
00:26:12,693 --> 00:26:14,933
Speaker 3: what I mean, that's a minor infraction. So I saw

521
00:26:15,053 --> 00:26:17,373
Speaker 3: my neighbor putting stuff in my rubbish bin, I would

522
00:26:17,373 --> 00:26:19,253
Speaker 3: be ringing the council to say, do you think we.

523
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Speaker 2: Should drill down on corruption to that level? Yeah, the

524
00:26:22,373 --> 00:26:25,133
Speaker 2: absolute to the level of people putting rubbish in each

525
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Speaker 2: other's burns, that's corruption. It starts there.

526
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Speaker 3: See. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty are we

527
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Speaker 3: a bunch of dobbers or not?

528
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Speaker 2: Corruption?

529
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Speaker 3: Michelle? How are you this afternoon?

530
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Speaker 13: Hi?

531
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Speaker 14: Guys, good, Thanks.

532
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Speaker 3: Now, you're a great person to chat to, Michelle, because

533
00:26:41,413 --> 00:26:44,213
Speaker 3: you have been approached and obviously we're using different names

534
00:26:44,213 --> 00:26:47,013
Speaker 3: and we're not going to name names in the scenario,

535
00:26:47,133 --> 00:26:48,052
Speaker 3: but this has happened to you.

536
00:26:49,613 --> 00:26:49,893
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So I employ about fifty staff and I have recently

538
00:26:55,173 --> 00:26:57,933
Speaker 14: had a number of them the migrants looking to hit

539
00:26:57,973 --> 00:27:02,493
Speaker 14: their visas and they would well, the government's changed the

540
00:27:02,653 --> 00:27:05,292
Speaker 14: roles now, but up until recently they had to have

541
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Speaker 14: a medium wage and if we didn't want to pay

542
00:27:09,293 --> 00:27:12,093
Speaker 14: them that then they wouldn't get their visas. And so

543
00:27:12,173 --> 00:27:15,373
Speaker 14: I've had a couple of my staff basically say to me,

544
00:27:15,933 --> 00:27:18,093
Speaker 14: can I pay you the difference cash.

545
00:27:18,093 --> 00:27:19,253
Speaker 15: You know, as a battender.

546
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Speaker 14: And I attest to them to the medium paying them

547
00:27:24,293 --> 00:27:26,653
Speaker 14: the medium wage, and they were quite scared to pat

548
00:27:26,773 --> 00:27:29,013
Speaker 14: to me in cash and dribble it out of their

549
00:27:29,053 --> 00:27:29,773
Speaker 14: bank accounts.

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Speaker 16: And I refused.

551
00:27:32,013 --> 00:27:37,253
Speaker 14: And they couldn't understand that because they said they were Chinese,

552
00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:40,213
Speaker 14: and they basically said, but we all do it. That's

553
00:27:40,253 --> 00:27:42,933
Speaker 14: how all of the Chinese businesses operate.

554
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Speaker 2: So if you had done that and would refused, if

555
00:27:47,053 --> 00:27:51,373
Speaker 2: you had done that and you had been caught, that

556
00:27:51,453 --> 00:27:53,493
Speaker 2: would be a serious charges.

557
00:27:53,173 --> 00:27:58,293
Speaker 14: Against you, oh massive, yeah, yeah, And I didn't. And

558
00:27:58,613 --> 00:28:01,733
Speaker 14: for that loan I refused, But ethically I felt it

559
00:28:01,813 --> 00:28:06,213
Speaker 14: was completely wrong, and I just refused on my personal

560
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Speaker 14: values and because it was us wrong.

561
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Speaker 2: Did you think that you should report these people for asking?

562
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Speaker 16: Well? I couldn't really.

563
00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:21,573
Speaker 14: I didn't really feel I had anything to report them

564
00:28:21,613 --> 00:28:25,973
Speaker 14: on because there was nothing actually happened. If I had

565
00:28:26,053 --> 00:28:28,533
Speaker 14: knew that, no, and they've done it through another business

566
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Speaker 14: that I knew, for example, and there was some actual

567
00:28:32,253 --> 00:28:33,813
Speaker 14: proper wrongdoing.

568
00:28:33,493 --> 00:28:36,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I would have had something.

569
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Speaker 14: To report, but there was There's nothing actually wrong.

570
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Speaker 16: They just passed.

571
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Speaker 14: But they certainly indicated that lots of people they knew

572
00:28:44,213 --> 00:28:46,853
Speaker 14: were in very similar arrangements.

573
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Speaker 2: So I wonder what the charge would have been against

574
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Speaker 2: you if you caught doing that. It would be someone

575
00:28:52,813 --> 00:28:55,733
Speaker 2: might be able to tell me, is that fraud?

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Speaker 14: I would have would have been ford, But also I'm

577
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Speaker 14: an accredited employer, so I would have all my accreditation

578
00:29:05,253 --> 00:29:08,013
Speaker 14: and I would have been in trouble and you.

579
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Speaker 2: Would and you would have been accused of You probably

580
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Speaker 2: would have been accused of exploiting migrant workers as well.

581
00:29:14,613 --> 00:29:16,373
Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly, it was the other way around.

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't have to you don't have to

583
00:29:20,053 --> 00:29:22,533
Speaker 3: answer this one, Michelle. But what sort of money are

584
00:29:22,533 --> 00:29:25,493
Speaker 3: we talking about here? Clearly you are a good citizen

585
00:29:25,533 --> 00:29:28,133
Speaker 3: and have have ethics, but was it enough money for

586
00:29:28,213 --> 00:29:31,613
Speaker 3: someone who was a bit more nefarious might have taken

587
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Speaker 3: them up on that?

588
00:29:33,813 --> 00:29:33,933
Speaker 17: Oh?

589
00:29:34,013 --> 00:29:36,573
Speaker 14: I look it with five dollars an hour for us

590
00:29:36,813 --> 00:29:40,453
Speaker 14: right on an hourly rate, you know, that's probably in

591
00:29:40,453 --> 00:29:42,973
Speaker 14: the three to five dollars rate. But it was the

592
00:29:42,973 --> 00:29:45,813
Speaker 14: principle of it, and they went worth the extra money.

593
00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:47,253
Speaker 14: In my mind, anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, yeah, fascinating Michelle, Thank you very much for

595
00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:54,973
Speaker 3: having a chat with us, and and cout on you

596
00:29:55,053 --> 00:29:58,893
Speaker 3: for turning them down. But you know, as the the

597
00:29:59,013 --> 00:30:02,293
Speaker 3: article says, without a body to be able to, you know,

598
00:30:02,373 --> 00:30:04,253
Speaker 3: go to and say, hey, I've just been approached by

599
00:30:04,253 --> 00:30:05,813
Speaker 3: these people. What else do you do?

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Speaker 6: Right?

601
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:08,133
Speaker 3: Who else do you go to to say this has happened?

602
00:30:09,493 --> 00:30:12,813
Speaker 14: Okay, we're just taking principles nowadays.

603
00:30:12,933 --> 00:30:15,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you so much for your call, Michelle.

604
00:30:15,293 --> 00:30:18,093
Speaker 2: Appreciate that. I mean, that's there's something that that's corruption

605
00:30:18,213 --> 00:30:20,733
Speaker 2: on Tony different levels, isn't it. Yeah, so that there

606
00:30:20,773 --> 00:30:23,533
Speaker 2: is this little corruption like you accusing me of rubbish

607
00:30:23,533 --> 00:30:27,173
Speaker 2: spin coruption yep, dumping my rubbish and different people's bins yep.

608
00:30:27,613 --> 00:30:28,613
Speaker 3: Quite the infraction now.

609
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Speaker 2: And there's this this kind of corruption here around you know,

610
00:30:31,653 --> 00:30:37,333
Speaker 2: migrants trying to game the system and a backhanded type

611
00:30:37,373 --> 00:30:40,613
Speaker 2: situation yep. And then you've got people that let whole

612
00:30:40,653 --> 00:30:42,373
Speaker 2: containers of methan feitamine get.

613
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Speaker 3: Into the country and getting paid nineteen thousand dollars for it. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

615
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Speaker 3: call love to hear from you. If you have been

616
00:30:49,213 --> 00:30:52,573
Speaker 3: approached or you've come across a corruption in your industry

617
00:30:52,653 --> 00:30:54,813
Speaker 3: or job. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

618
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Speaker 3: number to call and do you agree.

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Speaker 2: With fifty percent of this text machine at the moment

620
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Speaker 2: and the hundreds of texts coming and saying that kiwis

621
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Speaker 2: don't snitch?

622
00:31:02,013 --> 00:31:03,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty

624
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Speaker 1: ten eighty Taylor Adams afternoons used talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB News TALKSB. We're talking about corruption in New Zealand.

626
00:31:16,373 --> 00:31:18,533
Speaker 3: We are going down the list in terms of the

627
00:31:18,613 --> 00:31:21,493
Speaker 3: least corrupt country in the world. We were number one

628
00:31:21,493 --> 00:31:23,413
Speaker 3: for a long time and we were very proud of that.

629
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Speaker 3: We're now number four and experts are concerned we're going

630
00:31:26,573 --> 00:31:29,493
Speaker 3: to drop lower because where naive, organized criminal groups are

631
00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:32,813
Speaker 3: taking advantage of us, and more and more insiders are

632
00:31:32,813 --> 00:31:36,333
Speaker 3: being used to smuggle things across the border, to grease

633
00:31:36,493 --> 00:31:39,333
Speaker 3: the wheels, to take some money and turn the other way.

634
00:31:39,373 --> 00:31:40,733
Speaker 3: So love to you from you on O eight hundred

635
00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:41,413
Speaker 3: and eighteen eighty.

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00:31:41,613 --> 00:31:44,613
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, snitches do get stitches in New Zealand. That's

637
00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:46,693
Speaker 2: what I learned a long time ago. Love your show,

638
00:31:46,773 --> 00:31:49,493
Speaker 2: Jason all right, a lot of people say that snitches

639
00:31:49,493 --> 00:31:51,613
Speaker 2: get stitches, yeah, and that Kiwis don't snitch.

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00:31:51,653 --> 00:31:52,333
Speaker 3: I need to know more.

641
00:31:52,413 --> 00:31:54,933
Speaker 2: Jason Ian, welcome to the show.

642
00:31:56,293 --> 00:31:57,093
Speaker 18: Thanks serving me.

643
00:31:57,573 --> 00:32:00,133
Speaker 3: Thanks for giving us a buzz. So what's your story

644
00:32:00,373 --> 00:32:02,413
Speaker 3: in regards to corruption.

645
00:32:04,853 --> 00:32:09,413
Speaker 18: Those fairly through military styles? We sa us or saw

646
00:32:09,413 --> 00:32:13,293
Speaker 18: the apartment at first open and one of our employees

647
00:32:13,373 --> 00:32:16,733
Speaker 18: started off as a student Chinese guild, which is absolutely

648
00:32:16,853 --> 00:32:20,013
Speaker 18: excellent work, and she sort of worked her way through

649
00:32:20,013 --> 00:32:24,373
Speaker 18: the management. But the she that she had is between

650
00:32:24,413 --> 00:32:28,213
Speaker 18: all her Chinese community, it was seen as unfair that

651
00:32:28,293 --> 00:32:30,933
Speaker 18: she wouldn't be paying us money to have one of

652
00:32:30,933 --> 00:32:34,333
Speaker 18: these management quite roles, because that's how they were getting

653
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Speaker 18: visus at the time to stay in the country after

654
00:32:36,973 --> 00:32:38,133
Speaker 18: being be a student.

655
00:32:40,373 --> 00:32:43,733
Speaker 3: So the fact, so how much money did she offer?

656
00:32:43,813 --> 00:32:44,413
Speaker 3: Can I ask that?

657
00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:49,573
Speaker 18: In like would? We solidly turned her down multiple times

658
00:32:49,573 --> 00:32:52,653
Speaker 18: that she said, just getting bollied so bad from hermates

659
00:32:52,693 --> 00:32:54,773
Speaker 18: that she is you know you're going to have to

660
00:32:55,573 --> 00:32:58,293
Speaker 18: walk away. But she's just there's actually three owners at

661
00:32:58,333 --> 00:33:00,933
Speaker 18: the time, She's just put one hundred and eighty bucks

662
00:33:00,933 --> 00:33:04,613
Speaker 18: in until a week and she just said yeah, basically

663
00:33:04,653 --> 00:33:06,493
Speaker 18: she couldn't take it out. We've had to take it

664
00:33:06,613 --> 00:33:10,533
Speaker 18: or just call it over taking or whatever. But yes,

665
00:33:10,573 --> 00:33:14,733
Speaker 18: she's getting really badly bully because yeah, she wasn't paid.

666
00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:20,613
Speaker 2: Well wow, And then so what did you do? How

667
00:33:20,613 --> 00:33:21,973
Speaker 2: did you deal with that situation?

668
00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:30,613
Speaker 18: Used to be a pub there, we just go, yeah,

669
00:33:30,853 --> 00:33:34,733
Speaker 18: sort out the over balance until it's to the things.

670
00:33:35,453 --> 00:33:37,373
Speaker 18: But you know, we didn't want to take money. Didn't

671
00:33:37,373 --> 00:33:42,413
Speaker 18: think it wasn't it's illegal, right, yeah. But just basically

672
00:33:42,493 --> 00:33:44,613
Speaker 18: since she's you know, she's going to have to quit,

673
00:33:44,693 --> 00:33:45,893
Speaker 18: its just so ingrained.

674
00:33:48,733 --> 00:33:51,093
Speaker 2: So you're saying that the fact that she wasn't so

675
00:33:51,253 --> 00:33:57,653
Speaker 2: that so essentially to not be corrupt was frowned upon.

676
00:33:59,293 --> 00:33:59,453
Speaker 19: Yeah.

677
00:33:59,493 --> 00:34:03,093
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that that's a really difficult situation for you to

678
00:34:03,173 --> 00:34:05,373
Speaker 2: be in because the money is not being handed it's

679
00:34:05,413 --> 00:34:07,093
Speaker 2: not being handed to you in a you know, a

680
00:34:07,133 --> 00:34:09,853
Speaker 2: brown paper bag or slipped in your back pocket or whatever.

681
00:34:10,093 --> 00:34:13,212
Speaker 2: It's just being left in the till so you have

682
00:34:13,493 --> 00:34:18,533
Speaker 2: forced you're forced to actually deal with it, you knowles

683
00:34:18,693 --> 00:34:21,053
Speaker 2: you yeah, yeah.

684
00:34:20,573 --> 00:34:23,453
Speaker 3: And that peer pressure too, you know, I mean, I'm

685
00:34:23,453 --> 00:34:26,693
Speaker 3: sure she didn't see it as corruption, but that's exactly

686
00:34:26,733 --> 00:34:28,453
Speaker 3: what it was. And the peer pressure of our other

687
00:34:28,493 --> 00:34:32,333
Speaker 3: workers to do that, yeah, that is a difficult situation and.

688
00:34:32,413 --> 00:34:35,773
Speaker 2: Absolutely getting bullied to be corrupt.

689
00:34:36,293 --> 00:34:38,053
Speaker 3: Not even handing the money over, just leaving it in

690
00:34:38,093 --> 00:34:38,453
Speaker 3: the till.

691
00:34:38,573 --> 00:34:41,013
Speaker 2: I had a friend who was telling me about a

692
00:34:41,053 --> 00:34:45,973
Speaker 2: pizza place that his son daughter I think was usked to,

693
00:34:46,413 --> 00:34:49,252
Speaker 2: was working in and they said, we'll only pay you cash. Yeah,

694
00:34:49,453 --> 00:34:52,133
Speaker 2: And they were new immigrants to the country. New migrants

695
00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:54,293
Speaker 2: to the country, will only pay you cash. And then

696
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:56,053
Speaker 2: after the first few shifts, they said, we didn't get

697
00:34:56,053 --> 00:34:57,853
Speaker 2: any cash coming in, so we can't pay you at all.

698
00:34:58,493 --> 00:35:00,652
Speaker 2: And they were like, well, hang on a minute, so

699
00:35:00,853 --> 00:35:03,293
Speaker 2: we're going to go We're going to the i ID

700
00:35:03,493 --> 00:35:05,692
Speaker 2: with this. You know, when you said you're only paying cash,

701
00:35:05,693 --> 00:35:07,773
Speaker 2: we thought you mean you were paying in cash, but

702
00:35:07,853 --> 00:35:09,772
Speaker 2: this is the and they said, no, we'll only pay

703
00:35:09,813 --> 00:35:12,813
Speaker 2: you if cash comes in and you're not in the box.

704
00:35:13,893 --> 00:35:16,493
Speaker 2: And it was a complex situation for how they were

705
00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:21,213
Speaker 2: running their business to get citizenship and such. Under those circumstances,

706
00:35:21,213 --> 00:35:23,013
Speaker 2: what do you do. Are you supposed to go and

707
00:35:23,053 --> 00:35:25,533
Speaker 2: say this pizza shop is corrupt?

708
00:35:26,413 --> 00:35:28,853
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean because otherwise.

709
00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:29,973
Speaker 2: You've got people that are running a company in New

710
00:35:30,093 --> 00:35:32,933
Speaker 2: Zealand that aren't paying any tax into.

711
00:35:32,733 --> 00:35:35,493
Speaker 3: The system exactly. And as soon as you take their cash.

712
00:35:35,293 --> 00:35:38,373
Speaker 2: Or aren't paying tax into the system, well wht anyway.

713
00:35:38,093 --> 00:35:40,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the IID will come after you as well.

714
00:35:40,333 --> 00:35:41,893
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

715
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,413
Speaker 3: number to call love to hear from you. Tim. What's

716
00:35:45,413 --> 00:35:46,853
Speaker 3: your view on this afternoons gentlemen.

717
00:35:47,773 --> 00:35:51,373
Speaker 20: Yeah, So I dropped into the into the station and

718
00:35:51,453 --> 00:35:56,172
Speaker 20: started listening, and I ended up with more questions. I

719
00:35:56,173 --> 00:35:59,253
Speaker 20: was teaking to your producer about it. So what I did,

720
00:35:59,293 --> 00:36:02,053
Speaker 20: DIPEA is sort of since I spoke to them, I've

721
00:36:02,053 --> 00:36:07,133
Speaker 20: looked online to see what defines corruption and give themself

722
00:36:07,213 --> 00:36:09,653
Speaker 20: quite an education, say, because.

723
00:36:10,933 --> 00:36:12,053
Speaker 5: It would appear.

724
00:36:14,133 --> 00:36:16,212
Speaker 20: See, I mean see, I was wondering, how like where

725
00:36:16,253 --> 00:36:21,573
Speaker 20: at what point does say a negotiation become corrupt? And

726
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:28,333
Speaker 20: it could include anything like in a relationship. Ah, you know,

727
00:36:28,373 --> 00:36:30,413
Speaker 20: this is the where I was going. And this list

728
00:36:30,453 --> 00:36:37,293
Speaker 20: that constitutes corruption is astonishing and I think basically it

729
00:36:37,413 --> 00:36:39,893
Speaker 20: could make all of us hypocrites.

730
00:36:40,493 --> 00:36:41,933
Speaker 3: M there's a line.

731
00:36:42,053 --> 00:36:44,493
Speaker 2: No really, yeah, okay, so you've got some examples on there.

732
00:36:45,693 --> 00:36:50,533
Speaker 20: Okay, So one would be like neptism and you know,

733
00:36:50,573 --> 00:36:52,933
Speaker 20: he doesn't want to help out a family member, you know, and.

734
00:36:54,813 --> 00:36:58,013
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and we leave that game.

735
00:36:58,213 --> 00:37:01,813
Speaker 20: And but also and there've got so many questions about it,

736
00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:09,172
Speaker 20: but can we afford to not have things that work

737
00:37:09,253 --> 00:37:10,133
Speaker 20: that way? Yeah?

738
00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:13,133
Speaker 2: Got agree with the wheels, Right, Yeah, that's an interesting

739
00:37:13,173 --> 00:37:15,493
Speaker 2: idea that if you don't have any corruption at all,

740
00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:18,773
Speaker 2: does things just grow into Oh, is there a certain

741
00:37:18,813 --> 00:37:22,533
Speaker 2: amount of corruption? And we're not talking about helping people

742
00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:25,172
Speaker 2: smoke drugs, smuggle drugs into the country, but there's a

743
00:37:25,213 --> 00:37:28,252
Speaker 2: certain amount of Yeah, I see exactly what you're saying,

744
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:28,893
Speaker 2: A little bit of.

745
00:37:31,213 --> 00:37:34,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that is a fact society. You're

746
00:37:34,373 --> 00:37:36,493
Speaker 3: quite right. Yeah, But I suppose it comes down to

747
00:37:36,533 --> 00:37:40,493
Speaker 3: personal ethics, doesn't Most of us, looking at those scenarios

748
00:37:40,973 --> 00:37:44,333
Speaker 3: would use our ethical values and say, is that breaking

749
00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:47,093
Speaker 3: the law? Is that breached the line of what I

750
00:37:47,133 --> 00:37:51,533
Speaker 3: would consider corruption versus greasing the wheels? But here you

751
00:37:51,653 --> 00:37:53,173
Speaker 3: raise an interesting point.

752
00:37:54,653 --> 00:37:58,333
Speaker 2: Thank you you call Tim. I've got my questions on nepotism.

753
00:37:58,133 --> 00:38:01,812
Speaker 2: I'm interesting. I don't know, is nepotism that bad? Isn't

754
00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:04,053
Speaker 2: the whole point of being a parent as you get

755
00:38:04,053 --> 00:38:06,093
Speaker 2: yourself in a position where you can make your life

756
00:38:06,093 --> 00:38:07,933
Speaker 2: easier for your kids. Isn't that Isn't that what we're

757
00:38:07,933 --> 00:38:10,813
Speaker 2: trying to do. Aren't we just struggling away every day

758
00:38:11,053 --> 00:38:13,493
Speaker 2: to get into a position where we can maybe use

759
00:38:13,493 --> 00:38:16,693
Speaker 2: our contacts with other people to maybe make the incredibly

760
00:38:16,773 --> 00:38:19,373
Speaker 2: tough business of being a human being growing up. Yea

761
00:38:20,053 --> 00:38:20,893
Speaker 2: a little bit easier.

762
00:38:20,973 --> 00:38:23,333
Speaker 3: So the way of the world, it's always been about

763
00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:23,733
Speaker 3: who you know.

764
00:38:23,813 --> 00:38:25,853
Speaker 2: So I think it'd be very hard to get rid

765
00:38:25,853 --> 00:38:28,732
Speaker 2: of nepotism, Yeah, because it's just so ingrained in us

766
00:38:28,853 --> 00:38:30,053
Speaker 2: to look after our kids.

767
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:33,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty, ten eighty.

768
00:38:33,733 --> 00:38:37,333
Speaker 2: I hope one day I'm in a position to to

769
00:38:37,573 --> 00:38:39,133
Speaker 2: bestow some nepotism on my case.

770
00:38:39,173 --> 00:38:41,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, most parents woulds It is seven to two bag

771
00:38:41,813 --> 00:38:42,692
Speaker 3: very shortly.

772
00:38:43,693 --> 00:38:47,253
Speaker 1: Madd Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

773
00:38:47,253 --> 00:38:49,893
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams

774
00:38:49,933 --> 00:38:51,573
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks V.

775
00:38:53,213 --> 00:38:56,853
Speaker 3: It is forward to two great discussion text here get

776
00:38:56,893 --> 00:38:59,813
Speaker 3: a guys. I don't think it's a kiwis don't snitch trait.

777
00:38:59,933 --> 00:39:02,453
Speaker 3: I think it's more of a cowardly not my business attitude,

778
00:39:02,493 --> 00:39:04,493
Speaker 3: And you can clearly see it when there's an argument

779
00:39:04,533 --> 00:39:06,853
Speaker 3: fight bullying going on in a public place. For example,

780
00:39:06,893 --> 00:39:09,333
Speaker 3: no one in Devens. They stand back with their phones out.

781
00:39:09,333 --> 00:39:11,773
Speaker 3: That has cowardly behavior. That goes hand in hand with

782
00:39:11,813 --> 00:39:14,653
Speaker 3: what you were talking about the rise of corruption in

783
00:39:14,693 --> 00:39:15,653
Speaker 3: New Zealand's.

784
00:39:15,413 --> 00:39:18,373
Speaker 2: And the sex says nepotism. The game the whole family

785
00:39:18,373 --> 00:39:20,133
Speaker 2: can play exactly that.

786
00:39:20,293 --> 00:39:21,013
Speaker 6: It is right.

787
00:39:21,133 --> 00:39:23,653
Speaker 3: Great discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who phoned

788
00:39:23,933 --> 00:39:27,293
Speaker 3: and text on that topic. We've got a new topic,

789
00:39:27,333 --> 00:39:30,413
Speaker 3: cup after two o'clock are we a bunch of wines

790
00:39:30,533 --> 00:39:34,413
Speaker 3: in New Zealand will tell you more very shortly, New

791
00:39:34,453 --> 00:39:36,653
Speaker 3: Sport and Weather on its way listening to Matt and Tyler.

792
00:39:36,853 --> 00:39:54,573
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. You want to be you want

793
00:39:54,613 --> 00:39:56,172
Speaker 3: to be wrong?

794
00:39:57,413 --> 00:40:11,293
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen,

795
00:40:11,373 --> 00:40:14,013
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons News Dogs.

796
00:40:14,013 --> 00:40:18,133
Speaker 3: It'd be good afternoon. Chare welcome back into the show.

797
00:40:18,413 --> 00:40:21,653
Speaker 3: Six past too. Just before we get into the next topic,

798
00:40:21,693 --> 00:40:23,973
Speaker 3: we were talking about roasts yesterday.

799
00:40:23,613 --> 00:40:25,813
Speaker 2: Matt, Yeah, delicious roast chat, said, a.

800
00:40:25,813 --> 00:40:29,053
Speaker 3: Beautiful roast chat. And a lady called Kathy rang up

801
00:40:29,453 --> 00:40:31,773
Speaker 3: and she had a bit of a chat about roasts.

802
00:40:31,773 --> 00:40:33,813
Speaker 3: But she said that her oven was broken and she

803
00:40:33,813 --> 00:40:36,453
Speaker 3: couldn't afford to fix it. So we said, we're going

804
00:40:36,493 --> 00:40:38,813
Speaker 3: to try and help Kathy out to get her oven

805
00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:41,973
Speaker 3: fixed because that's not on now. This is why we

806
00:40:42,013 --> 00:40:44,613
Speaker 3: love the station and the TICS machine. So a guy

807
00:40:44,613 --> 00:40:48,013
Speaker 3: called Chris from Axeal Appliance Servicing God in Touch and

808
00:40:48,053 --> 00:40:50,533
Speaker 3: he said, hey, I'm happy to help Kathy out. I'll

809
00:40:50,533 --> 00:40:52,373
Speaker 3: go around and have a look at her oven. So

810
00:40:52,613 --> 00:40:55,133
Speaker 3: we've hooked those two people up. Chris is going to

811
00:40:55,213 --> 00:40:57,733
Speaker 3: head round to Kathy's place and she get her oven

812
00:40:57,813 --> 00:41:00,253
Speaker 3: and fix that for her, which is a great news story.

813
00:41:00,293 --> 00:41:03,013
Speaker 3: So Kathy is absolutely chuffed.

814
00:41:03,173 --> 00:41:05,293
Speaker 2: And we were going to supply you were going to

815
00:41:05,293 --> 00:41:06,973
Speaker 2: supply the lamb, and I was going to supply the

816
00:41:07,053 --> 00:41:08,333
Speaker 2: yams so she can cook a roast.

817
00:41:08,373 --> 00:41:09,853
Speaker 3: I thought it was the other way around, wasn't it.

818
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:12,733
Speaker 3: I hope you've been shopping for some good lamb. Kathy's fussy.

819
00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:15,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you need an oven to roast, don't you.

820
00:41:15,653 --> 00:41:18,413
Speaker 2: So we'll make sure we sought that out for him. Yep, exactly.

821
00:41:18,413 --> 00:41:20,613
Speaker 2: And what was the name of the company again, this Chris?

822
00:41:20,613 --> 00:41:24,013
Speaker 3: What was Exeal Appliance Servicing. I've got to say, Chris said, hey,

823
00:41:24,093 --> 00:41:25,652
Speaker 3: I don't need you to give me a shout out

824
00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:27,893
Speaker 3: or anything like that just because he's a good bugger, clearly,

825
00:41:27,973 --> 00:41:29,973
Speaker 3: But I said, no, we're gonna give you a shout out, mate,

826
00:41:30,253 --> 00:41:33,573
Speaker 3: us mate exactly, So Axeal dot co dot NZ. He'll

827
00:41:33,613 --> 00:41:35,493
Speaker 3: be embarrassed by that, but go see them if you've

828
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:37,613
Speaker 3: got a problem with your impliance. Good people and they're

829
00:41:37,653 --> 00:41:40,173
Speaker 3: helping Kathy out, which is what we love. So speaking

830
00:41:40,213 --> 00:41:43,653
Speaker 3: of loving this country, are we a bunch of winches

831
00:41:43,693 --> 00:41:46,652
Speaker 3: when it comes to life in New Zealand? Now I

832
00:41:46,693 --> 00:41:48,652
Speaker 3: say love in New Zealand because there's a great story.

833
00:41:48,653 --> 00:41:51,053
Speaker 3: It's in the Herald today but it is written by

834
00:41:51,133 --> 00:41:53,893
Speaker 3: the Telegraph in the UK and it talks to a

835
00:41:53,933 --> 00:41:56,293
Speaker 3: bunch of couples in the UK who made the move

836
00:41:56,453 --> 00:41:59,213
Speaker 3: here to New Zealand. So the costs involved, what it

837
00:41:59,253 --> 00:42:01,813
Speaker 3: takes to get a visa, what sort of skills that

838
00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:06,053
Speaker 3: we require, all that sort of information, but the big

839
00:42:06,093 --> 00:42:10,373
Speaker 3: takeaway from the story is how much these UK couples

840
00:42:10,413 --> 00:42:14,573
Speaker 3: and citizens absolutely adore New Zealand. And the quote here

841
00:42:14,613 --> 00:42:17,733
Speaker 3: that I absolutely love from one of the couples, Robert

842
00:42:17,773 --> 00:42:22,133
Speaker 3: and Sabrina, they said, I quote, we could have earned

843
00:42:22,133 --> 00:42:24,813
Speaker 3: more if we moved to Australia, but we weren't happy there.

844
00:42:24,853 --> 00:42:27,613
Speaker 3: The weather was good, but it wasn't as welcoming as

845
00:42:27,653 --> 00:42:28,413
Speaker 3: New Zealand.

846
00:42:28,813 --> 00:42:31,893
Speaker 2: Yes, so you know they thought news. This is how

847
00:42:31,893 --> 00:42:35,093
Speaker 2: they rated New Zealand. Improved work life balance and family time,

848
00:42:35,413 --> 00:42:39,453
Speaker 2: Safer environment for raising children, friendly and inclusive local communities,

849
00:42:39,813 --> 00:42:43,533
Speaker 2: access to nature and outdoor activities, less daily stress compared

850
00:42:43,573 --> 00:42:46,733
Speaker 2: to the life in the UK. And yet what do

851
00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:48,373
Speaker 2: we hear in New Zealand. All we ever here is

852
00:42:48,413 --> 00:42:51,013
Speaker 2: in New Zealand is so bad. It's so terrible listening

853
00:42:51,453 --> 00:42:54,453
Speaker 2: a living here was so under the boot that we

854
00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:57,652
Speaker 2: can hardly succeed and it's all we can do to

855
00:42:57,813 --> 00:43:00,413
Speaker 2: upsticks and move to Australia because it's so horrible here.

856
00:43:00,613 --> 00:43:04,373
Speaker 2: And yet here's an article in the Telegraph in the

857
00:43:04,493 --> 00:43:06,973
Speaker 2: UK saying how great it is in New Zealand and

858
00:43:07,013 --> 00:43:10,493
Speaker 2: how people that live move New Zealand absolutely love it.

859
00:43:10,613 --> 00:43:13,533
Speaker 2: So how can those two things be true? That if

860
00:43:13,813 --> 00:43:16,493
Speaker 2: migrants to our country can love our country and see

861
00:43:16,533 --> 00:43:17,813
Speaker 2: how good it is, why can't we.

862
00:43:17,933 --> 00:43:19,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty have

863
00:43:19,973 --> 00:43:20,253
Speaker 3: we become?

864
00:43:20,293 --> 00:43:21,853
Speaker 2: Because I don't think New Zealand has used to be

865
00:43:21,893 --> 00:43:25,333
Speaker 2: Winges I think we used to have this attitude where

866
00:43:26,093 --> 00:43:29,133
Speaker 2: we don't know how lucky we are, what a fantastic

867
00:43:29,173 --> 00:43:31,933
Speaker 2: place it is to be here. Thank god I was

868
00:43:31,973 --> 00:43:36,093
Speaker 2: born on these beautiful islands yep. But now we seem to,

869
00:43:36,293 --> 00:43:38,453
Speaker 2: you know, judging by the text machine and judging by

870
00:43:38,453 --> 00:43:40,053
Speaker 2: a lot of calls we get. And if you go

871
00:43:40,093 --> 00:43:43,813
Speaker 2: anywhere there social media, winge, winge, winge, every article and

872
00:43:43,933 --> 00:43:46,652
Speaker 2: the Herald, there's people winging about how bad it is.

873
00:43:46,813 --> 00:43:49,533
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean when I hear from anybody who lives

874
00:43:49,573 --> 00:43:52,453
Speaker 3: in the UK, they say that it's there's never any sun,

875
00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:54,573
Speaker 3: so it just rains all the time. If there is

876
00:43:54,613 --> 00:43:56,652
Speaker 3: a slight bit of sun that kind of pokes out,

877
00:43:56,853 --> 00:44:00,293
Speaker 3: everybody rushes to the outside bar and you can't get

878
00:44:00,333 --> 00:44:02,773
Speaker 3: a seat. If there's a beach day, good luck at

879
00:44:02,773 --> 00:44:04,652
Speaker 3: trying to find a good beach in the UK. There's

880
00:44:04,693 --> 00:44:07,613
Speaker 3: only a handful. But of course that absolutely rammed. And

881
00:44:07,613 --> 00:44:10,373
Speaker 3: then I look at you Zealand life here is we've

882
00:44:10,373 --> 00:44:12,693
Speaker 3: got bugger all people compared to other countries, which is

883
00:44:12,693 --> 00:44:15,853
Speaker 3: a good thing. We've got beach's galore, beautiful landscape. We

884
00:44:15,893 --> 00:44:18,333
Speaker 3: are good people. There's so much to love here and

885
00:44:18,373 --> 00:44:19,173
Speaker 3: I just get.

886
00:44:19,053 --> 00:44:22,013
Speaker 2: Oh, have we become more winging than the winging palms?

887
00:44:22,173 --> 00:44:24,493
Speaker 3: Maybe? I eight one hundred?

888
00:44:25,293 --> 00:44:27,333
Speaker 2: Is it now happy palms? Winging kiwis?

889
00:44:27,413 --> 00:44:27,613
Speaker 6: Yeah?

890
00:44:27,653 --> 00:44:28,093
Speaker 2: Maybe?

891
00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:30,732
Speaker 3: But also, if you've moved to this country, why did

892
00:44:30,773 --> 00:44:33,053
Speaker 3: you pack New Zealand as your new home? What was

893
00:44:33,093 --> 00:44:36,013
Speaker 3: it about this country that you maybe fell in love with?

894
00:44:36,693 --> 00:44:37,173
Speaker 3: In love with?

895
00:44:37,293 --> 00:44:39,773
Speaker 2: I should say, yeah, Well, maybe if we listen to

896
00:44:39,813 --> 00:44:42,293
Speaker 2: more migrants telling us how good our country is, then

897
00:44:42,333 --> 00:44:44,373
Speaker 2: we'll get over ourselves and appreciate it more.

898
00:44:44,533 --> 00:44:44,732
Speaker 6: Yeah.

899
00:44:45,093 --> 00:44:47,413
Speaker 2: Maybe we just need other people to come around and go, look,

900
00:44:47,453 --> 00:44:53,053
Speaker 2: it's actually pretty good. You're winging crying babies. Hey, can

901
00:44:53,093 --> 00:44:56,853
Speaker 2: we make a proviso on Kathy's oven? Yep, that we'll

902
00:44:56,853 --> 00:44:58,613
Speaker 2: give her oven, but you're not allowed to cook parsnip

903
00:44:58,613 --> 00:45:00,253
Speaker 2: in it. As this text is well done, boys with

904
00:45:00,293 --> 00:45:03,172
Speaker 2: the oven? Hey, Matt, don't forget the parsnips. Let's that's

905
00:45:03,173 --> 00:45:05,973
Speaker 2: from Phil. So look, I'm willing to help Kathy, and

906
00:45:06,053 --> 00:45:08,333
Speaker 2: I think she's a lovely person and she deserves an oven.

907
00:45:08,453 --> 00:45:10,813
Speaker 2: She's horrible, but I just don't want any more parsnips

908
00:45:10,813 --> 00:45:12,573
Speaker 2: to be cocked in the community.

909
00:45:12,693 --> 00:45:15,013
Speaker 3: Can we let Kathy decide? If I text her right now?

910
00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:17,652
Speaker 3: And just put put the ball in Kathy's caught. Are

911
00:45:17,693 --> 00:45:19,293
Speaker 3: you up for that? I'll teach Katy right now.

912
00:45:19,333 --> 00:45:22,813
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give Kathy any conditions, okay on

913
00:45:22,853 --> 00:45:26,133
Speaker 2: the situation, but as I make clear yesterday, I cannot

914
00:45:26,253 --> 00:45:26,973
Speaker 2: buy a passing them.

915
00:45:27,013 --> 00:45:29,293
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll draft that text up, just a quick one.

916
00:45:29,413 --> 00:45:31,613
Speaker 3: Kathy parsnips, Yeah, your nay, and we'll see what she

917
00:45:31,653 --> 00:45:33,853
Speaker 3: comes back with. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

918
00:45:33,893 --> 00:45:35,732
Speaker 3: is the number to call full boards. If you can't

919
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:38,613
Speaker 3: get through, keep trying. It is twelve.

920
00:45:38,293 --> 00:45:42,293
Speaker 2: Person Already people coming in with the winging improving my point.

921
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:48,252
Speaker 2: Oh god, God, come on, we need to start shaming winges. Yep, yeah,

922
00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:50,293
Speaker 2: you think you've got it. There's so many other places

923
00:45:50,293 --> 00:45:51,453
Speaker 2: in the world that have it so much worse.

924
00:45:51,533 --> 00:45:57,773
Speaker 21: Exactly your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

925
00:45:57,853 --> 00:46:01,773
Speaker 21: afternoons call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk sed B.

926
00:46:04,453 --> 00:46:07,293
Speaker 3: News Talk zed B. We've just got a truckload a

927
00:46:07,373 --> 00:46:09,812
Speaker 3: text in on this discussion. So of ask the question,

928
00:46:09,853 --> 00:46:11,613
Speaker 3: our New Zealand is a bunch of winges On the

929
00:46:11,613 --> 00:46:13,613
Speaker 3: back of this Telegraph story you can read it in

930
00:46:13,653 --> 00:46:18,533
Speaker 3: the Herald, but it is based on a couple stories

931
00:46:18,693 --> 00:46:20,813
Speaker 3: of those in the UK who have decided to make

932
00:46:20,853 --> 00:46:24,053
Speaker 3: New Zealand their new home, and they absolutely adore it

933
00:46:24,093 --> 00:46:27,212
Speaker 3: here better than Australia, obviously better than the UK, better

934
00:46:27,253 --> 00:46:30,453
Speaker 3: than the States, better than Thailand. And why can't we

935
00:46:30,493 --> 00:46:32,373
Speaker 3: see how lucky we are in this country?

936
00:46:32,893 --> 00:46:34,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you have moved to this country and

937
00:46:35,013 --> 00:46:36,573
Speaker 2: you think it's a great place, so I one hundred

938
00:46:36,613 --> 00:46:38,093
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. We'd love to hear from you.

939
00:46:38,173 --> 00:46:41,013
Speaker 2: Maybe migrants to the country will make us appreciate what

940
00:46:41,093 --> 00:46:44,613
Speaker 2: we have, yeah, or are we just being pollyannas? And

941
00:46:44,773 --> 00:46:49,013
Speaker 2: is this a country? An absolute disaster? And we have

942
00:46:49,173 --> 00:46:52,253
Speaker 2: every right to spend our time sooking and crying and winging.

943
00:46:53,253 --> 00:46:55,013
Speaker 3: And if you can't get through, keep trying. There's a

944
00:46:55,053 --> 00:46:57,533
Speaker 3: few techs in that regard, So just keep trying. Oh,

945
00:46:57,573 --> 00:47:00,413
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty Scott, welcome to the show.

946
00:47:02,133 --> 00:47:05,693
Speaker 22: Good afternoon, lads, And you're right to quote the song

947
00:47:05,933 --> 00:47:09,692
Speaker 22: We don't know how lucky we are, mate, because you're

948
00:47:09,773 --> 00:47:13,413
Speaker 22: dead right, because we have a fantastic country to live

949
00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:15,333
Speaker 22: in and it's really nice the fact that the English

950
00:47:15,853 --> 00:47:18,493
Speaker 22: have seen it as for what it is it truly is.

951
00:47:18,813 --> 00:47:22,013
Speaker 22: And it is situational too in some aspects too, because

952
00:47:22,053 --> 00:47:24,853
Speaker 22: I'm sure there are some out there if they watch

953
00:47:24,933 --> 00:47:27,213
Speaker 22: Chantel one news all the time, we think the country's

954
00:47:27,253 --> 00:47:29,773
Speaker 22: gone to hell, and of course it has not. The

955
00:47:29,773 --> 00:47:32,693
Speaker 22: country's a wonderful place to live. And it's not about

956
00:47:32,693 --> 00:47:35,853
Speaker 22: what the country can give you. It's about what you

957
00:47:35,933 --> 00:47:37,573
Speaker 22: can do to improve.

958
00:47:37,213 --> 00:47:38,493
Speaker 2: The country lovely.

959
00:47:38,493 --> 00:47:42,293
Speaker 22: Now we're all here, we're here to help grow our

960
00:47:42,373 --> 00:47:45,893
Speaker 22: nation so it's a better one for our kids or

961
00:47:45,933 --> 00:47:48,732
Speaker 22: our grandkids and their kids. We want to make sure

962
00:47:48,733 --> 00:47:51,733
Speaker 22: that this place is one that will continue to be

963
00:47:51,813 --> 00:47:56,213
Speaker 22: a beautiful place, a thriving community one. I think personally

964
00:47:56,653 --> 00:47:59,333
Speaker 22: that we need to get back to our fundamental basics

965
00:47:59,373 --> 00:48:03,252
Speaker 22: on which is a smaller net area looking after each other.

966
00:48:03,413 --> 00:48:05,773
Speaker 22: Now we sort of talk about not knowing our neighbors.

967
00:48:06,493 --> 00:48:08,333
Speaker 22: Where we've gone to the point where we don't even

968
00:48:08,453 --> 00:48:10,493
Speaker 22: know the guy down the road. And the old days,

969
00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:13,573
Speaker 22: the rural community especially all knew each other. Got to

970
00:48:13,613 --> 00:48:16,493
Speaker 22: the community halls, that's why they're everywhere. For example, the

971
00:48:16,493 --> 00:48:18,773
Speaker 22: old dairy factories used to be there as well. They

972
00:48:18,853 --> 00:48:20,453
Speaker 22: used to all go there and sell all their dairy

973
00:48:20,693 --> 00:48:22,853
Speaker 22: and I'm sure they use it as a as a

974
00:48:22,893 --> 00:48:25,493
Speaker 22: place to congregate as well and have a genuine chat

975
00:48:25,493 --> 00:48:29,093
Speaker 22: about the situations and share problems, because you know, especially

976
00:48:29,093 --> 00:48:31,493
Speaker 22: in the farming and rural community, guys, are you taking

977
00:48:31,493 --> 00:48:33,373
Speaker 22: it pretty hard there? And I just think they just

978
00:48:33,373 --> 00:48:35,573
Speaker 22: don't probably have that same net and community that they

979
00:48:35,653 --> 00:48:38,093
Speaker 22: used to have. And I just think if we can

980
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:40,533
Speaker 22: get back to that sort of mindset, our country is

981
00:48:40,573 --> 00:48:44,893
Speaker 22: one and that can definitely help these people come into

982
00:48:44,933 --> 00:48:47,813
Speaker 22: our country and enjoy what we have to enjoy it. Yeah,

983
00:48:48,253 --> 00:48:52,933
Speaker 22: I really feel that if they just stay away from

984
00:48:52,933 --> 00:48:57,293
Speaker 22: the negative nancies, if you like, sorry Nancy and just

985
00:48:58,133 --> 00:49:02,213
Speaker 22: say and just stay just you are a product of

986
00:49:02,213 --> 00:49:05,013
Speaker 22: your environment. Yeah you're having a good time. Everyone else

987
00:49:05,053 --> 00:49:05,893
Speaker 22: around you will too.

988
00:49:06,013 --> 00:49:07,413
Speaker 2: And I think that's a good point, Scott, because you've

989
00:49:07,413 --> 00:49:10,613
Speaker 2: got to ask yourself the motivations of people and that

990
00:49:10,613 --> 00:49:14,692
Speaker 2: that are winging, because often winging comes with you know,

991
00:49:14,813 --> 00:49:19,453
Speaker 2: social media cachet and likes or you know, as a

992
00:49:19,493 --> 00:49:22,013
Speaker 2: news source, you might find that you get more engagement

993
00:49:22,053 --> 00:49:25,333
Speaker 2: the more negative you are. I mean, a story that

994
00:49:25,453 --> 00:49:28,253
Speaker 2: says New Zealand's pretty good, it's not going to get

995
00:49:28,253 --> 00:49:31,733
Speaker 2: as many ticks and not as many cliques as a

996
00:49:31,733 --> 00:49:35,293
Speaker 2: story that says New Zealand sucks to put it really

997
00:49:35,333 --> 00:49:38,413
Speaker 2: black basically. So I think you're right, Scott. I think

998
00:49:38,453 --> 00:49:41,373
Speaker 2: it's a good idea to just question why people are

999
00:49:41,373 --> 00:49:43,693
Speaker 2: saying this, yeah.

1000
00:49:43,493 --> 00:49:48,213
Speaker 22: And look at themselves in their their situation, find ways

1001
00:49:48,253 --> 00:49:51,813
Speaker 22: to improve your situation instead of, like I sort of

1002
00:49:51,813 --> 00:49:54,613
Speaker 22: said before, instead of asking what they can do, what

1003
00:49:54,653 --> 00:49:55,453
Speaker 22: are you doing?

1004
00:49:55,693 --> 00:49:58,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good talk to I wonder if because you know,

1005
00:49:58,413 --> 00:50:02,613
Speaker 2: that was in JFK's nineteen sixty one in augural address

1006
00:50:02,653 --> 00:50:05,053
Speaker 2: when he said, ask not what your country can do

1007
00:50:05,173 --> 00:50:07,773
Speaker 2: for you, ask what you can do for your country.

1008
00:50:08,373 --> 00:50:10,653
Speaker 2: Didn't nail the thing, But can you mention a politician

1009
00:50:10,693 --> 00:50:14,253
Speaker 2: saying that now and people going yeah, yeah, that's not

1010
00:50:14,253 --> 00:50:17,293
Speaker 2: the way people look at things anymore. If if someone

1011
00:50:17,373 --> 00:50:20,692
Speaker 2: ran on that platform, people would be like, why would

1012
00:50:20,693 --> 00:50:21,853
Speaker 2: I do anything for my country?

1013
00:50:21,973 --> 00:50:24,613
Speaker 3: They'd get angry. They've seen it, you know. I mean,

1014
00:50:25,373 --> 00:50:27,692
Speaker 3: arguably we don't have a JFK in New Zealand right

1015
00:50:27,693 --> 00:50:30,133
Speaker 3: now in a political spheres, but I've heard that that

1016
00:50:30,333 --> 00:50:32,813
Speaker 3: it's time to take personal responsibility and we want to

1017
00:50:32,813 --> 00:50:36,172
Speaker 3: see you succeed and do better, and you can help

1018
00:50:36,253 --> 00:50:38,853
Speaker 3: that by pulling you know, I'm paraphrasing here, pulling the

1019
00:50:38,853 --> 00:50:41,692
Speaker 3: bootstrats up and doing something for yourself, let us help you,

1020
00:50:42,093 --> 00:50:43,093
Speaker 3: and then people get angry.

1021
00:50:43,373 --> 00:50:43,573
Speaker 23: Yeah.

1022
00:50:43,573 --> 00:50:45,413
Speaker 2: Well it's like what can you do for your family

1023
00:50:45,733 --> 00:50:49,453
Speaker 2: and then your community, and then your wider community and

1024
00:50:49,493 --> 00:50:53,413
Speaker 2: then your country. Yeah, I mean that that's probably the best.

1025
00:50:53,293 --> 00:50:54,613
Speaker 3: Way to look at It should be a message we

1026
00:50:54,613 --> 00:50:55,173
Speaker 3: can get behind.

1027
00:50:55,213 --> 00:50:55,293
Speaker 24: Oh.

1028
00:50:55,453 --> 00:50:58,252
Speaker 2: I can't just imagine if any party tried to run

1029
00:50:58,253 --> 00:50:58,493
Speaker 2: on that.

1030
00:50:58,573 --> 00:51:03,172
Speaker 3: Now, good luck, yeah luck, some great tics coming through.

1031
00:51:03,253 --> 00:51:05,573
Speaker 3: Get our guys. I'm from South Africa and New Zealand

1032
00:51:05,653 --> 00:51:09,293
Speaker 3: is truly the country of milk and honey. Life is

1033
00:51:09,333 --> 00:51:12,213
Speaker 3: so good here and the crime is very little compared

1034
00:51:12,253 --> 00:51:15,613
Speaker 3: to back home. You kiwiz, don't know how lucky you are.

1035
00:51:15,933 --> 00:51:17,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting a lot of kickback on my attempt

1036
00:51:18,013 --> 00:51:19,893
Speaker 2: at Jaffk's accent.

1037
00:51:20,453 --> 00:51:23,213
Speaker 3: It was because, you know, on adult sportsnagger them.

1038
00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:26,853
Speaker 2: My favorite quote of Jaffks is we do these things

1039
00:51:26,973 --> 00:51:31,212
Speaker 2: not because they're easy, but because they're hard. I get harded, right,

1040
00:51:31,293 --> 00:51:33,733
Speaker 2: that's that's good, but not the easy. Yeah, And that's

1041
00:51:33,773 --> 00:51:36,453
Speaker 2: another great quote. Do things not because they're easy, not

1042
00:51:36,533 --> 00:51:39,213
Speaker 2: but because they're herd. And that was his speech at

1043
00:51:39,213 --> 00:51:42,973
Speaker 2: Wright State University, you know, starting off the race to

1044
00:51:43,013 --> 00:51:43,373
Speaker 2: the moon.

1045
00:51:43,413 --> 00:51:45,133
Speaker 3: He was a genius. Seek guy, Oh one hundred and

1046
00:51:45,133 --> 00:51:47,413
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you

1047
00:51:47,613 --> 00:51:49,613
Speaker 3: have migrated here to New Zealand. What did you love

1048
00:51:49,653 --> 00:51:52,373
Speaker 3: about this country? Love to hear from you twenty past two.

1049
00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:57,133
Speaker 2: Know JFK wasn't German. I want to find the actual speech.

1050
00:51:57,613 --> 00:51:58,893
Speaker 2: My inmitations are poor.

1051
00:52:03,213 --> 00:52:06,893
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons, call Oh eight hundred eighty

1052
00:52:07,173 --> 00:52:08,533
Speaker 1: eighty on news Talks.

1053
00:52:09,293 --> 00:52:11,172
Speaker 3: News Talk, zed b. Here we go.

1054
00:52:11,693 --> 00:52:15,093
Speaker 2: Ask not what you can do for your country, ask

1055
00:52:15,173 --> 00:52:17,813
Speaker 2: what your country can do for you. Okay, let's compare it.

1056
00:52:17,813 --> 00:52:19,893
Speaker 2: I've been I've been getting a lot of a lot

1057
00:52:19,973 --> 00:52:22,933
Speaker 2: of pushback on my jaffcam personation. Only a person who

1058
00:52:22,933 --> 00:52:25,453
Speaker 2: hates parsnips would make such a mess of jaff case

1059
00:52:25,453 --> 00:52:28,172
Speaker 2: Accentsince Henry, I agree, all right, Here we go, Here

1060
00:52:28,213 --> 00:52:31,333
Speaker 2: we go. Here It is from Jaffk's inaugural speech in

1061
00:52:31,413 --> 00:52:32,172
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty one.

1062
00:52:33,293 --> 00:52:38,172
Speaker 25: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask

1063
00:52:38,293 --> 00:52:40,093
Speaker 25: what you can do for your country.

1064
00:52:41,413 --> 00:52:42,373
Speaker 2: Who got nailed it?

1065
00:52:43,133 --> 00:52:45,413
Speaker 3: Well, not quite nailed it, but that was pretty good.

1066
00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:46,853
Speaker 2: I've got to say, there's a second bit that even

1067
00:52:46,853 --> 00:52:49,493
Speaker 2: forgets fellow citizens of the world.

1068
00:52:50,413 --> 00:52:55,413
Speaker 25: Af not what America will do for you, but what

1069
00:52:55,613 --> 00:52:58,533
Speaker 25: together we can do for the freedom of man.

1070
00:52:59,173 --> 00:53:00,893
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good line, isn't there?

1071
00:53:00,973 --> 00:53:01,573
Speaker 2: How about that?

1072
00:53:01,733 --> 00:53:01,853
Speaker 20: Who?

1073
00:53:02,253 --> 00:53:04,973
Speaker 3: That's what we need to hear in New Zealand. Plenty

1074
00:53:04,973 --> 00:53:06,652
Speaker 3: of teachs coming through on this one, but we are

1075
00:53:06,693 --> 00:53:09,493
Speaker 3: talking about a UK list is coming to New Zealand.

1076
00:53:09,493 --> 00:53:12,373
Speaker 3: Great story in the Herald written by the Telegraph, of course,

1077
00:53:12,973 --> 00:53:15,333
Speaker 3: talking to couples who have immigrated here, and they say

1078
00:53:15,333 --> 00:53:19,493
Speaker 3: they absolutely adore New Zealand, but we can forget being

1079
00:53:19,893 --> 00:53:23,093
Speaker 3: born here and growing up here. How fricking awesome this

1080
00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:23,573
Speaker 3: place is.

1081
00:53:23,733 --> 00:53:26,413
Speaker 2: Yes, so they said, improve work, life balance and family

1082
00:53:26,413 --> 00:53:28,773
Speaker 2: times say for environment, for raising children, friendly and inclusive

1083
00:53:28,773 --> 00:53:31,773
Speaker 2: local communities, access to nature and out directivities, less daily

1084
00:53:31,773 --> 00:53:34,253
Speaker 2: stress compared to life in the UK. So do we

1085
00:53:34,293 --> 00:53:36,293
Speaker 2: need to lead to listen to migrants that say it's

1086
00:53:36,293 --> 00:53:39,093
Speaker 2: awesome before we'll stop winging. This person's still winging. New

1087
00:53:39,173 --> 00:53:41,093
Speaker 2: Zealand is stuff. It's full of pea, and this government

1088
00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:43,373
Speaker 2: refuses to face it and deal with it. It will

1089
00:53:43,413 --> 00:53:45,693
Speaker 2: soon be totally out of control. Well, I'll tell you

1090
00:53:45,733 --> 00:53:47,973
Speaker 2: what a lot of other countries that are full of

1091
00:53:48,013 --> 00:53:48,613
Speaker 2: pea as well.

1092
00:53:48,693 --> 00:53:49,133
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1093
00:53:49,493 --> 00:53:51,413
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Mars.

1094
00:53:51,413 --> 00:53:55,053
Speaker 26: It's been a while, oh boys with the working trying

1095
00:53:55,053 --> 00:53:56,853
Speaker 26: to make some money to pay them Texas, to keep

1096
00:53:56,853 --> 00:53:58,692
Speaker 26: all the unemployed happy to hear.

1097
00:53:59,413 --> 00:54:01,453
Speaker 2: You're doing what you can. You're not asking what the

1098
00:54:01,493 --> 00:54:02,533
Speaker 2: country could do for you.

1099
00:54:03,253 --> 00:54:04,213
Speaker 27: I'm just doing it.

1100
00:54:04,253 --> 00:54:08,053
Speaker 26: But I wear a bunch of the ring socks. Seriously.

1101
00:54:08,853 --> 00:54:11,493
Speaker 26: You know, I've lived in the UK and I've been

1102
00:54:11,533 --> 00:54:13,453
Speaker 26: back there recently, and I think I wouldn't want to

1103
00:54:13,493 --> 00:54:16,133
Speaker 26: even go near there again visiting anymore. I lived in

1104
00:54:16,133 --> 00:54:18,253
Speaker 26: the Philippines for a year and a half. You know,

1105
00:54:18,293 --> 00:54:20,812
Speaker 26: we talk about potholes here, Well over there you can't

1106
00:54:20,813 --> 00:54:22,813
Speaker 26: do over fifty k's because it's not potholes. It's just

1107
00:54:22,813 --> 00:54:27,213
Speaker 26: half the roads missing the roadse messing. You look at that,

1108
00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:29,293
Speaker 26: you go, dee, it's not that bad at Hope, And

1109
00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:31,493
Speaker 26: I lived in the Solomon Islands and TG you know,

1110
00:54:31,573 --> 00:54:33,733
Speaker 26: and the litter and the warribush and the waste and

1111
00:54:33,733 --> 00:54:35,493
Speaker 26: all that we all at least it all gets collected here,

1112
00:54:36,213 --> 00:54:39,013
Speaker 26: you know. In overall we're not that there, but we

1113
00:54:39,213 --> 00:54:43,173
Speaker 26: are becoming the senseiment titled in the last probably twenty years.

1114
00:54:43,693 --> 00:54:46,933
Speaker 26: We actually don't want to do any work. We look at,

1115
00:54:47,093 --> 00:54:48,973
Speaker 26: you know, like going to pick fruit and an orchard

1116
00:54:48,973 --> 00:54:50,853
Speaker 26: and that the averages ell it won't do that because

1117
00:54:50,853 --> 00:54:53,373
Speaker 26: we're too good for that, or we're educated. But if

1118
00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:55,053
Speaker 26: we look at the stool and we can't read or write,

1119
00:54:55,093 --> 00:54:57,933
Speaker 26: and we don't really add and subtrack, but we're educated,

1120
00:54:58,293 --> 00:55:00,853
Speaker 26: and I think that we actually rate ourselves higher than

1121
00:55:00,853 --> 00:55:02,373
Speaker 26: what we really are. We need to just get a

1122
00:55:02,373 --> 00:55:05,253
Speaker 26: griff of reality and say, hey, you know, get off

1123
00:55:05,253 --> 00:55:07,373
Speaker 26: your ars, go to work, and life's going to be fine.

1124
00:55:08,533 --> 00:55:11,013
Speaker 26: And we don't we owned about potholes, but.

1125
00:55:10,973 --> 00:55:12,293
Speaker 5: Go on travel and wild and see what it's like

1126
00:55:12,293 --> 00:55:12,893
Speaker 5: everywhere else.

1127
00:55:13,093 --> 00:55:16,453
Speaker 26: We're actually punching way above our weight. And you know

1128
00:55:16,493 --> 00:55:19,933
Speaker 26: your little my taste of jsk, he said, ask.

1129
00:55:20,013 --> 00:55:28,133
Speaker 2: Not ask the ask not Harris, ask, ask what your

1130
00:55:28,173 --> 00:55:29,533
Speaker 2: country can do for you?

1131
00:55:30,533 --> 00:55:30,732
Speaker 1: Yes?

1132
00:55:31,093 --> 00:55:35,253
Speaker 3: Much, what you can do for your country, Marris, can

1133
00:55:35,253 --> 00:55:36,093
Speaker 3: you give the full line?

1134
00:55:37,653 --> 00:55:37,693
Speaker 24: No?

1135
00:55:37,973 --> 00:55:41,013
Speaker 26: No, no, no, I'm not going to ask what the

1136
00:55:41,013 --> 00:55:42,813
Speaker 26: country can do for me. I'll just do it for myself,

1137
00:55:42,933 --> 00:55:45,212
Speaker 26: because what I've ruined in life is it at least

1138
00:55:45,253 --> 00:55:46,573
Speaker 26: you get off your ears and do it for yourself,

1139
00:55:46,573 --> 00:55:47,133
Speaker 26: and no one else is.

1140
00:55:47,133 --> 00:55:47,933
Speaker 28: Going to do it for you.

1141
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:49,213
Speaker 5: And I said that to my kids.

1142
00:55:49,653 --> 00:55:51,333
Speaker 26: You know, no one's going to you know when I die,

1143
00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,533
Speaker 26: there's nothing less than the pot because I'm going to

1144
00:55:53,573 --> 00:55:55,333
Speaker 26: spend it all. So you're better get off you all.

1145
00:55:55,333 --> 00:55:56,333
Speaker 26: You're getting goot an education.

1146
00:55:56,773 --> 00:56:01,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not what Morris can do for for for

1147
00:56:01,653 --> 00:56:03,773
Speaker 2: as kids. Ask what his kids can do for Mars.

1148
00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:06,093
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, simply enough of them.

1149
00:56:06,093 --> 00:56:07,613
Speaker 26: I can spend a month with each of them now.

1150
00:56:08,093 --> 00:56:08,813
Speaker 6: You know.

1151
00:56:08,933 --> 00:56:12,212
Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, and don't worry about the super fund. I'll

1152
00:56:12,213 --> 00:56:13,573
Speaker 26: just go and bludge off the kids for a month

1153
00:56:13,853 --> 00:56:15,213
Speaker 26: when I get to a sage, when I need to.

1154
00:56:16,013 --> 00:56:17,893
Speaker 26: And that is what I've contributed to society. They reckon

1155
00:56:17,933 --> 00:56:20,133
Speaker 26: that we're declining in population, when I'll help keep it up.

1156
00:56:20,573 --> 00:56:23,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thank you very much, appreciate them.

1157
00:56:23,853 --> 00:56:25,853
Speaker 3: We've we've heard a lot about your multiple kids.

1158
00:56:25,853 --> 00:56:28,173
Speaker 2: But you're a good man, This says, Ask what the

1159
00:56:28,213 --> 00:56:31,213
Speaker 2: country is doing about p Okay?

1160
00:56:31,213 --> 00:56:33,373
Speaker 3: Okay, right? That doesn't quite ad the same ring to it.

1161
00:56:34,133 --> 00:56:36,253
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of

1162
00:56:36,333 --> 00:56:39,133
Speaker 3: call if you are a migrant here. We'd love to

1163
00:56:39,173 --> 00:56:40,893
Speaker 3: hear from you. Why did you move to New Zealand And?

1164
00:56:40,893 --> 00:56:43,613
Speaker 3: Why did you stay? Plenty of tecks coming through about

1165
00:56:43,613 --> 00:56:45,413
Speaker 3: your jfk impersonation as well.

1166
00:56:45,533 --> 00:56:48,173
Speaker 2: This is interesting texts. Think God Jeff k became president

1167
00:56:48,173 --> 00:56:51,853
Speaker 2: before Viegra. Oh, I think he. I think he still

1168
00:56:51,893 --> 00:56:52,293
Speaker 2: managed to.

1169
00:56:52,573 --> 00:56:56,333
Speaker 3: He did it right, haven't I said? A good time?

1170
00:56:56,613 --> 00:56:58,772
Speaker 2: I think I see what you're saying. Yeah, you would

1171
00:56:58,773 --> 00:56:59,373
Speaker 2: have done even more.

1172
00:56:59,453 --> 00:57:01,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Kennedys did pretty well in that department. I think,

1173
00:57:01,853 --> 00:57:02,373
Speaker 3: dear text to.

1174
00:57:02,413 --> 00:57:04,813
Speaker 2: You that that's yeah, they were into there.

1175
00:57:04,893 --> 00:57:05,093
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1176
00:57:05,413 --> 00:57:06,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, they gave a lot to a.

1177
00:57:06,653 --> 00:57:08,333
Speaker 2: Bunch of pants. Me and the Kennedy's America.

1178
00:57:09,053 --> 00:57:10,013
Speaker 3: It's twenty eight parts.

1179
00:57:10,013 --> 00:57:16,053
Speaker 11: Though news talks the headlines with blue bubble tanksis it's

1180
00:57:16,133 --> 00:57:19,213
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble? A judge says an

1181
00:57:19,213 --> 00:57:22,573
Speaker 11: apology from a christ to murderer as he was sentenced

1182
00:57:22,613 --> 00:57:25,453
Speaker 11: to life in jail for killing his elderly gardening client

1183
00:57:25,493 --> 00:57:29,413
Speaker 11: at Mount Pleasant is too little, too late. A seventy

1184
00:57:29,413 --> 00:57:32,373
Speaker 11: three year old man has been charged with murder over

1185
00:57:32,413 --> 00:57:35,613
Speaker 11: the death of seventy seven year old Daniel Hepehe at

1186
00:57:35,653 --> 00:57:39,373
Speaker 11: Hood air Care north of Kaikoi. Late last month. A

1187
00:57:39,493 --> 00:57:43,653
Speaker 11: towpoor businessman's elected for trial by jury charged with rape

1188
00:57:43,693 --> 00:57:47,573
Speaker 11: and trying to bribe his alleged victim. Donald Trump is

1189
00:57:47,613 --> 00:57:50,733
Speaker 11: sending hundreds of US Marines and has ordered two thousand

1190
00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:54,693
Speaker 11: more National Guard troops to go to Alae's immigration protests.

1191
00:57:55,173 --> 00:57:59,253
Speaker 11: California's governor says the orders deranged and has filed a lawsuit.

1192
00:58:00,253 --> 00:58:04,093
Speaker 11: In New Zealand's trialing free onboard internet on two domestic

1193
00:58:04,133 --> 00:58:09,013
Speaker 11: flights linking up with Starlink satellite based service. Clouds of

1194
00:58:09,173 --> 00:58:12,253
Speaker 11: uncertainty have cleared over the North items Tudor and fuck

1195
00:58:12,333 --> 00:58:15,413
Speaker 11: up upper ski fields, with the new operators hoping good

1196
00:58:15,413 --> 00:58:20,653
Speaker 11: snowfall will allow a Matariki weekend opening. Fletcher begins marathon

1197
00:58:20,773 --> 00:58:25,093
Speaker 11: court case against subcontract does over Convention Center fire. You

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Speaker 11: can find out more at enzin Herald Premium. Back to

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Speaker 11: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much, Raylane. We're talking about immigrating here to

1201
00:58:32,773 --> 00:58:34,853
Speaker 3: this beautiful country. There's a great story on the New

1202
00:58:34,933 --> 00:58:38,293
Speaker 3: Zealand Herald talking two couples in the UK about why

1203
00:58:38,333 --> 00:58:41,093
Speaker 3: they chose New Zealand as their new home.

1204
00:58:41,253 --> 00:58:43,533
Speaker 2: Yes, so it was reprinted in from an article on

1205
00:58:43,533 --> 00:58:47,573
Speaker 2: the Daily Taragraph. So it's you know, a UK newspaper

1206
00:58:47,573 --> 00:58:50,853
Speaker 2: interviewing some British couple that have moved to New Zealand

1207
00:58:50,973 --> 00:58:54,933
Speaker 2: absolutely love it. Meanwhile, everyone hears winging and moaning. Do

1208
00:58:54,973 --> 00:58:57,173
Speaker 2: we need to listen to migrants that love the country

1209
00:58:57,213 --> 00:59:00,373
Speaker 2: so we can finally see how good it is here? Yeah, Paula,

1210
00:59:01,013 --> 00:59:02,213
Speaker 2: you've moved here from the UK.

1211
00:59:03,493 --> 00:59:03,813
Speaker 29: I have.

1212
00:59:04,253 --> 00:59:09,213
Speaker 30: Yeah, I moved here when I retired sixty five. I

1213
00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:12,333
Speaker 30: was born in Liverpool in the UK and I worked

1214
00:59:12,333 --> 00:59:15,573
Speaker 30: in the NHS for nearly forty years in the UK.

1215
00:59:16,253 --> 00:59:19,493
Speaker 30: I retired at sixty five and I came over here

1216
00:59:19,533 --> 00:59:22,293
Speaker 30: with my husband on a parent visa.

1217
00:59:23,573 --> 00:59:28,693
Speaker 2: On visa sorry what a perlent? A permanent apparent?

1218
00:59:29,173 --> 00:59:32,973
Speaker 30: Yeah, okay, it.

1219
00:59:32,973 --> 00:59:35,013
Speaker 2: Was pretty good on peer No, I can't I.

1220
00:59:34,973 --> 00:59:36,293
Speaker 30: Talk about Liverpoolian this.

1221
00:59:36,453 --> 00:59:36,613
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1222
00:59:41,573 --> 00:59:50,773
Speaker 30: Yeah, I used to know him. Have another story, yeah, okay.

1223
00:59:51,213 --> 00:59:55,373
Speaker 30: My two children born in Liverpool in the UK, believe

1224
00:59:55,453 --> 00:59:59,253
Speaker 30: us or not, married two New Zealanders, one each. And

1225
00:59:59,373 --> 01:00:01,933
Speaker 30: my six grandchildren lived.

1226
01:00:01,693 --> 01:00:03,933
Speaker 5: And were born in New Zealand.

1227
01:00:04,653 --> 01:00:07,973
Speaker 30: And I came over with my husband when I retired

1228
01:00:08,533 --> 01:00:11,693
Speaker 30: to support them, to support my children, to look after

1229
01:00:11,773 --> 01:00:14,573
Speaker 30: my grand kids, so my children could go to work

1230
01:00:14,613 --> 01:00:18,693
Speaker 30: if they were sick, to go and watch them play sports,

1231
01:00:18,933 --> 01:00:22,773
Speaker 30: go to the beach with them, and I also work

1232
01:00:22,893 --> 01:00:26,013
Speaker 30: for twelve years in New Zealand as a volunteer in

1233
01:00:26,453 --> 01:00:30,413
Speaker 30: a hospice op shop, which i've just left.

1234
01:00:30,573 --> 01:00:33,733
Speaker 2: Now, how many stars do you give out the country

1235
01:00:34,133 --> 01:00:35,133
Speaker 2: since you've moved over.

1236
01:00:35,013 --> 01:00:39,133
Speaker 30: Here, I would say five stars. This is a beautiful place.

1237
01:00:40,973 --> 01:00:44,693
Speaker 30: And today today I went to the post office and

1238
01:00:44,733 --> 01:00:49,573
Speaker 30: we've just applied for citizenship my grand kids. Yeah, we've

1239
01:00:49,613 --> 01:00:52,093
Speaker 30: just applied for it today. I've sent it to Wellington.

1240
01:00:52,653 --> 01:00:56,013
Speaker 30: Lots of form filling for both myself. My husband is

1241
01:00:56,053 --> 01:00:59,653
Speaker 30: eighty in a couple of months, and we're hoping our

1242
01:00:59,693 --> 01:01:04,373
Speaker 30: grandchildren can watch our citizenship ceremony because I watched my

1243
01:01:04,533 --> 01:01:07,893
Speaker 30: kids at the ceremony when they got citizenship and it

1244
01:01:08,053 --> 01:01:12,493
Speaker 30: is very moving if nobody's seen it.

1245
01:01:12,733 --> 01:01:16,253
Speaker 2: Paula, when you hear New Zealand is winging about the country,

1246
01:01:16,533 --> 01:01:18,733
Speaker 2: what do you say that.

1247
01:01:18,853 --> 01:01:21,413
Speaker 30: Well, we've been to lots of places in our time,

1248
01:01:22,453 --> 01:01:25,373
Speaker 30: mainly your but I have been to Australia as well,

1249
01:01:25,613 --> 01:01:30,253
Speaker 30: and honestly, I don't know. They have no idea what.

1250
01:01:30,573 --> 01:01:32,733
Speaker 30: I don't know what they're winging about because they live

1251
01:01:32,773 --> 01:01:38,493
Speaker 30: in Paradise. You know, it's the most beautiful place, It's

1252
01:01:38,693 --> 01:01:40,653
Speaker 30: it is it's the most beautiful place.

1253
01:01:40,773 --> 01:01:42,893
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for that, positively, Paula. But

1254
01:01:42,933 --> 01:01:44,573
Speaker 2: I've got to take you back to Ringo Star because

1255
01:01:44,573 --> 01:01:47,213
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Beatles fan and anytime, anytime there's any

1256
01:01:47,213 --> 01:01:48,933
Speaker 2: mention of the Beatles, I get excited and I have

1257
01:01:49,053 --> 01:01:51,413
Speaker 2: to I have to tell So just tell us how

1258
01:01:51,453 --> 01:01:53,133
Speaker 2: you knew your new Ringo.

1259
01:01:53,253 --> 01:01:56,373
Speaker 30: I didn't know him directly, but I used to go

1260
01:01:56,453 --> 01:02:01,293
Speaker 30: to the Cavern, yes before, before the original cavern in Liverpool,

1261
01:02:01,693 --> 01:02:04,893
Speaker 30: before anyone had ever heard of the Beatles. Yes, only

1262
01:02:04,933 --> 01:02:08,653
Speaker 30: the people that lived in Liverpool knew them before they'd

1263
01:02:08,693 --> 01:02:12,053
Speaker 30: made their records, and really just after they'd come back

1264
01:02:12,053 --> 01:02:13,773
Speaker 30: from Hamburg and.

1265
01:02:14,213 --> 01:02:16,453
Speaker 2: Would have been would have been a great live band after.

1266
01:02:16,253 --> 01:02:16,453
Speaker 20: All the.

1267
01:02:19,413 --> 01:02:23,573
Speaker 30: Early sixties. We went at lunchtime, we went in the evening,

1268
01:02:23,733 --> 01:02:26,013
Speaker 30: We danced to them and.

1269
01:02:26,013 --> 01:02:28,493
Speaker 2: What was it like record? Sorry, what was it like

1270
01:02:28,853 --> 01:02:30,933
Speaker 2: to watch this band that you'd seen at the Caven

1271
01:02:31,133 --> 01:02:34,853
Speaker 2: just a small band playing the picked out crowds and

1272
01:02:34,933 --> 01:02:37,853
Speaker 2: being big in Liverpool just become the hugest thing in

1273
01:02:37,893 --> 01:02:38,173
Speaker 2: the world.

1274
01:02:39,133 --> 01:02:42,373
Speaker 30: Nobody knew of them outside Liverpool. And I bought the

1275
01:02:42,453 --> 01:02:46,373
Speaker 30: record Love Me Too, and they were under the Polophone label,

1276
01:02:46,413 --> 01:02:49,933
Speaker 30: and and I forgot that record and I took it

1277
01:02:50,053 --> 01:02:52,453
Speaker 30: to London with me to see my friend. I was

1278
01:02:52,493 --> 01:02:59,613
Speaker 30: about fourteen, and unfortunately I left it there. And I

1279
01:02:59,653 --> 01:03:02,773
Speaker 30: think she spread the world in the London area about

1280
01:03:02,773 --> 01:03:06,013
Speaker 30: this group called the Beatles, which she had never heard of.

1281
01:03:06,733 --> 01:03:08,533
Speaker 30: And when I came home, I.

1282
01:03:08,413 --> 01:03:09,173
Speaker 5: Balls under the one.

1283
01:03:09,333 --> 01:03:10,373
Speaker 3: Yeah I had.

1284
01:03:10,973 --> 01:03:14,173
Speaker 30: Yeah, So you know, it's to be at the beginning

1285
01:03:14,453 --> 01:03:17,773
Speaker 30: when nobody knew them, and to dance the nights away

1286
01:03:17,853 --> 01:03:21,453
Speaker 30: with the sweat running down the wall. There's no fire escapes,

1287
01:03:21,453 --> 01:03:25,053
Speaker 30: there's nothing, you know, Silla Black taking the coat, things

1288
01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:25,333
Speaker 30: like that.

1289
01:03:25,493 --> 01:03:28,293
Speaker 3: So well, Silla Black was there too, so very cool.

1290
01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:30,493
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call. Paula, So paul Up,

1291
01:03:31,053 --> 01:03:33,253
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna call it that record she took

1292
01:03:33,293 --> 01:03:35,173
Speaker 2: to London that started Beatlemania.

1293
01:03:35,253 --> 01:03:36,813
Speaker 3: The Beatles would be nothing without Paula.

1294
01:03:36,933 --> 01:03:39,133
Speaker 2: Without That's how it got out of Liverpool, Yes, how

1295
01:03:39,133 --> 01:03:39,613
Speaker 2: it spread.

1296
01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:40,933
Speaker 3: What was the Cavin, by the way, it was the

1297
01:03:40,973 --> 01:03:44,493
Speaker 3: Kevin and Nightclub. I take it, is that right? Well,

1298
01:03:44,493 --> 01:03:47,413
Speaker 3: when you mentioned the cabin, the cavern or the Cavern,

1299
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Speaker 3: which was the place they fit. It's the very famous

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Speaker 3: venue where the Beatles first started playing.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful brick sort of place. Yeah, I love that,

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01:03:54,973 --> 01:03:56,613
Speaker 2: very famous the Beatles fans.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Paula. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

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01:03:58,613 --> 01:04:01,093
Speaker 3: teen eighty is the number to call if you are

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01:04:01,133 --> 01:04:03,413
Speaker 3: a migrant here to New Zealand. Why did you pick

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01:04:03,493 --> 01:04:05,453
Speaker 3: New Zealand? What do you love about it? And look,

1307
01:04:05,453 --> 01:04:07,933
Speaker 3: if you're a Kiwi that actually adores our country as well,

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Speaker 3: we can hear from you. It is twenty two to three.

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Speaker 3: Back fore shortly here on News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: A fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

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01:04:17,973 --> 01:04:23,013
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eight TALKSB.

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01:04:23,733 --> 01:04:25,533
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, It's twenty to three.

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01:04:25,653 --> 01:04:26,893
Speaker 2: Do you know why I'm called Matthew?

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01:04:27,293 --> 01:04:27,493
Speaker 23: Why?

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01:04:27,733 --> 01:04:30,933
Speaker 2: Because the Cavin Club where the Beatles first started playing,

1316
01:04:31,373 --> 01:04:33,453
Speaker 2: is in Matthews on Matthew Street in Liverpool.

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01:04:33,573 --> 01:04:35,413
Speaker 3: Is that actually true? Yeah, that's what you were named us.

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01:04:35,453 --> 01:04:37,573
Speaker 2: So I'm a Beatles fan before I was even born.

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01:04:37,613 --> 01:04:40,253
Speaker 3: Mate, A claim the fame, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: The cabin is from Coronation Street, Tyler.

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01:04:43,493 --> 01:04:45,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was a ticksie That's why I was

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Speaker 3: having a week. Gaggles said, what is the cab cabin.

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01:04:47,493 --> 01:04:50,413
Speaker 3: Geez Tyler met has such patients with you, I'd say

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Speaker 3: it's the other way around.

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Speaker 2: Usually, Yeah, I don't have any patients. A great show. Yes,

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Speaker 2: As a South African immigrant and having lived in four countries,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand is the best. Keep secret. Met my wife

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01:05:00,373 --> 01:05:03,013
Speaker 2: here and have three girls, best place on earth. And

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01:05:03,293 --> 01:05:07,893
Speaker 2: see we need migrants to our country to tell us

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01:05:07,893 --> 01:05:11,013
Speaker 2: that it's good to stop us when jenemally and welcome

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01:05:11,013 --> 01:05:11,493
Speaker 2: to the show.

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Speaker 3: Can they guys away very goods?

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Speaker 23: Yes?

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Speaker 19: And he a little disclosure. So my father moved out

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01:05:20,653 --> 01:05:24,373
Speaker 19: from Ireland in the seventies and my wife came out

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Speaker 19: from France and about twenty odd years ago. So I

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Speaker 19: that doesn't taint my view. But what it does is

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01:05:33,093 --> 01:05:36,533
Speaker 19: I get to travel back over most parts of my

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01:05:36,613 --> 01:05:40,853
Speaker 19: life through the eighties and nineties two thousand's to those

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Speaker 19: countries and got to visit them and compare. Even lived

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01:05:43,613 --> 01:05:45,213
Speaker 19: in Island for a year when I was growing up

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Speaker 19: in the nineties, and there is no comparison in my

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01:05:49,693 --> 01:05:53,573
Speaker 19: in my opinion, even recently, as much as four or

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Speaker 19: five years ago, out of business that used to go

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01:05:55,333 --> 01:05:58,653
Speaker 19: to Italy and you know I'd go there. I heard

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01:05:58,653 --> 01:06:04,213
Speaker 19: someone talking about Potos earlier. Itly their road. The infrastructure

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01:06:04,253 --> 01:06:08,613
Speaker 19: is fantastic, the trains and the walls, Carda which goes

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01:06:08,653 --> 01:06:11,453
Speaker 19: through you know, the goes over valleys and through mountains,

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01:06:11,693 --> 01:06:15,173
Speaker 19: but it's pretty rough. The road's pretty rough. But the

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Speaker 19: biggest point was my in law said that that move

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01:06:17,773 --> 01:06:22,053
Speaker 19: here in a heartbeat. There's there's many things in Europe,

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01:06:22,053 --> 01:06:25,613
Speaker 19: but it's great on the postcards, it's great on great

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01:06:25,653 --> 01:06:27,293
Speaker 19: on the pictures, but you just don't get that sense

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01:06:27,333 --> 01:06:31,413
Speaker 19: of freedom and and just easiness of living, and easiness

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01:06:31,493 --> 01:06:33,893
Speaker 19: of talking to the person beside it, and just a

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Speaker 19: real as that British caple said, just a real easiness.

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Speaker 19: It just doesn't exist out in most other places.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely, said Ryan. And as you mentioned from your

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01:06:43,253 --> 01:06:47,133
Speaker 3: relatives from France as well, we're very very lucky here

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01:06:47,413 --> 01:06:49,053
Speaker 3: that a lot of people and I think you know

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01:06:49,133 --> 01:06:52,613
Speaker 3: it is the ones winging here is Kiwis that haven't

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01:06:52,613 --> 01:06:55,733
Speaker 3: done much traveling around, so they don't get the concept

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Speaker 3: of how freaking lucky it is here to not have

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Speaker 3: too many people, to have all these gorgeous beaches. The

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Speaker 3: friendliness is quite high in relation to a lot of

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Speaker 3: you know, other countries. I mean France, for example. Lovely

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01:07:07,453 --> 01:07:09,613
Speaker 3: country but pretty pretty tough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would push back on that a

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Speaker 2: little bit. The lack of people here can be a

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01:07:14,053 --> 01:07:17,613
Speaker 2: downside as well in terms of your entertainment options.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that is true.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I reckon we could do with probably ten million people.

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Speaker 3: It's a good number. Yeah, we got room, We've got

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Speaker 3: space for it.

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Speaker 2: Shove them in Stuart Island. Yeah, we'll be fine. Hey guys,

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Speaker 2: anyone that complains about life in New Zealand has sadly

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01:07:30,533 --> 01:07:33,053
Speaker 2: never traveled the world to see how damn lucky we are.

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Speaker 2: There's a person that's agreeing with you, Tyler. I'm Japanese,

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01:07:36,053 --> 01:07:38,573
Speaker 2: but I love New Zealand more than Japan. There are

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Speaker 2: good work circumstances, beautiful nature. Woman Oh yep, good woman

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Speaker 2: in Japan. I see woman a quality much better than

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Speaker 2: Japan and New Zealand, right because.

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Speaker 3: The woman we've got good woman here in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it.

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01:07:52,253 --> 01:07:54,773
Speaker 2: My kids love New Zealand as well. Come to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: They're a woman.

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01:07:55,573 --> 01:07:57,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good selling point.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I wouldn't want to live in

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Speaker 2: a country with that woman.

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01:08:00,093 --> 01:08:03,573
Speaker 3: No, that would be it'll be horror show. I we

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01:08:03,653 --> 01:08:05,493
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:08:05,493 --> 01:08:08,853
Speaker 3: call Edwards? How are you the after night?

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Speaker 11: Hi?

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01:08:11,013 --> 01:08:20,093
Speaker 31: Hello, yep, I'm from the Philippines. I'm from the Philippines.

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01:08:20,773 --> 01:08:25,173
Speaker 31: I'm migrated here nine years ago, I think. But before that,

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01:08:25,293 --> 01:08:29,693
Speaker 31: I lived in Singapore for six years, Malaysia and Indonesia

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01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:34,253
Speaker 31: for six years, and we visited New Zealand once and

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01:08:34,452 --> 01:08:38,772
Speaker 31: fell in love with it. And now we're citizens in

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01:08:38,853 --> 01:08:43,412
Speaker 31: New Zealand. And Yeah, people don't know what they're complaining about.

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Speaker 2: What do you like about New Zealand? What do you

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01:08:46,933 --> 01:08:48,012
Speaker 2: like about New Zealand? Edwood?

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01:08:48,772 --> 01:08:52,093
Speaker 31: Oh, I work in the semiconductor industry that we're in.

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01:08:53,093 --> 01:08:53,213
Speaker 11: Uh.

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01:08:53,933 --> 01:08:56,652
Speaker 31: When in my work, even you're sleeping, you have to

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01:08:56,692 --> 01:09:00,732
Speaker 31: answer calls and then wake up in the middle of

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01:09:00,893 --> 01:09:03,173
Speaker 31: night and the night and go to the factory and

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01:09:03,213 --> 01:09:07,053
Speaker 31: fix stuff. Here in New Zealand, it doesn't happen right,

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01:09:07,572 --> 01:09:13,732
Speaker 31: So they respect early. Yeah, that work in life balance

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01:09:13,853 --> 01:09:17,133
Speaker 31: is really good, and especially my company is quite good

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01:09:17,213 --> 01:09:20,972
Speaker 31: with flexibility. So now I'm supposed to work eight to five,

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01:09:21,933 --> 01:09:25,013
Speaker 31: eight thirty to five, but since my daughter needs to

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01:09:25,053 --> 01:09:29,772
Speaker 31: go home now I can just tell my boss Oh yeah,

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01:09:29,492 --> 01:09:33,333
Speaker 31: I kept may I pick up my daughter because I, uh,

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01:09:33,492 --> 01:09:35,492
Speaker 31: she's not feeling or something like that.

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01:09:35,692 --> 01:09:36,012
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:09:36,093 --> 01:09:39,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a question for you because I had

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01:09:39,333 --> 01:09:42,213
Speaker 2: a good buddy and Toned and moved to Naden from

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01:09:42,213 --> 01:09:44,532
Speaker 2: Malaysia and he's what he used to say to me

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01:09:45,053 --> 01:09:47,213
Speaker 2: is it's so quiet. He goes, I like New Zealand,

1420
01:09:47,253 --> 01:09:50,492
Speaker 2: but it's so quiet. How did you deal with that

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01:09:50,612 --> 01:09:52,493
Speaker 2: side of things?

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01:09:52,893 --> 01:09:57,213
Speaker 31: Oh? I like it actually because yeah, I recently went

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01:09:57,253 --> 01:10:01,132
Speaker 31: back to Singapore and even Malaysia and Singapore is connected.

1424
01:10:01,812 --> 01:10:03,892
Speaker 31: It's like causing in countries.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:10:04,492 --> 01:10:08,892
Speaker 31: So even at nighttime there are people's and the people

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01:10:08,933 --> 01:10:09,932
Speaker 31: on the street like.

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01:10:09,853 --> 01:10:11,812
Speaker 5: That, yeah, middle of the night.

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01:10:11,933 --> 01:10:13,532
Speaker 27: Yeah. So yeah, I like the.

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01:10:13,532 --> 01:10:17,612
Speaker 31: Quiet and the greens here. Singapore is nice and everything,

1431
01:10:17,692 --> 01:10:19,892
Speaker 31: but you cannot compare New Zealand with it.

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01:10:20,572 --> 01:10:21,612
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1433
01:10:23,412 --> 01:10:29,172
Speaker 31: I haven't been to Austria. Like the sound of music things. Yeah,

1434
01:10:29,612 --> 01:10:33,052
Speaker 31: if you drive from Auckland to Wellington, it's it feels

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01:10:33,093 --> 01:10:33,692
Speaker 31: the same thing.

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01:10:33,973 --> 01:10:34,932
Speaker 23: It's like very.

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01:10:34,812 --> 01:10:36,133
Speaker 18: Green, very peaceful.

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01:10:36,772 --> 01:10:37,092
Speaker 23: Yeah.

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01:10:37,133 --> 01:10:39,093
Speaker 31: So I really love it here.

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01:10:39,372 --> 01:10:39,572
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:10:40,692 --> 01:10:42,652
Speaker 2: Edward, thank you so much for your for your call

1442
01:10:43,213 --> 01:10:46,532
Speaker 2: the sticks to disagrees total bes. I've been to all

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01:10:46,572 --> 01:10:49,812
Speaker 2: major countries from the UK to New York, Well that's

1444
01:10:49,853 --> 01:10:52,413
Speaker 2: not a country, is it? To Hong Kong, to the USA,

1445
01:10:53,133 --> 01:10:56,733
Speaker 2: to China? And New Zealand is definitely the worst backwards

1446
01:10:57,133 --> 01:10:58,253
Speaker 2: and so is your show.

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01:10:59,093 --> 01:11:03,492
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much, rob backwards. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

1448
01:11:04,013 --> 01:11:06,092
Speaker 3: is that such a bad thing if that is true?

1449
01:11:06,213 --> 01:11:06,812
Speaker 2: Being backwards?

1450
01:11:07,013 --> 01:11:10,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just just a slower pace of life.

1451
01:11:10,692 --> 01:11:12,892
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'd like to think of us as show.

1452
01:11:12,973 --> 01:11:15,053
Speaker 2: Is that the cutting edge forefront of me?

1453
01:11:15,732 --> 01:11:18,892
Speaker 3: This country, this country, you know, slightly slower pace of life,

1454
01:11:18,933 --> 01:11:20,852
Speaker 3: and that's what is appealing to a lot of people.

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01:11:20,853 --> 01:11:22,972
Speaker 2: I married a Keywien, moved here from the UK. When

1456
01:11:23,013 --> 01:11:25,173
Speaker 2: marriage broke up, I decided to stay here despite all

1457
01:11:25,213 --> 01:11:27,452
Speaker 2: my family being in the UK, because it's so damn

1458
01:11:27,492 --> 01:11:29,532
Speaker 2: good here and New Zealand is my home and has

1459
01:11:29,572 --> 01:11:33,412
Speaker 2: been for thirty five years. Thank you, Steve, you're a

1460
01:11:33,452 --> 01:11:33,892
Speaker 2: good man.

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01:11:34,372 --> 01:11:36,612
Speaker 3: Charles, you reckon, You're lucky to be here.

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01:11:38,133 --> 01:11:42,213
Speaker 23: Yes, we are so blessed. I cannot tell you living

1463
01:11:42,253 --> 01:11:44,732
Speaker 23: on a farm in South Africa that every morning we

1464
01:11:44,772 --> 01:11:47,492
Speaker 23: woke up we were so grateful that we hadn't been

1465
01:11:47,572 --> 01:11:50,532
Speaker 23: robbed or murdered or raped or something like that. That

1466
01:11:50,692 --> 01:11:53,572
Speaker 23: is something that we treasure very dearly of New Zealand.

1467
01:11:54,013 --> 01:11:56,773
Speaker 23: People who haven't traveled or haven't lived in those environments,

1468
01:11:57,213 --> 01:12:02,173
Speaker 23: haven't seen object poverty, abject crime the whole time, just

1469
01:12:02,213 --> 01:12:04,452
Speaker 23: don't know how lucky they are. I mean, we're now

1470
01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:07,492
Speaker 23: citizens and we're so grateful to be here. And I

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01:12:07,532 --> 01:12:11,812
Speaker 23: think attitude is something that that people forget running water,

1472
01:12:12,093 --> 01:12:14,732
Speaker 23: I mean, streets that are clean, pavements that are mode

1473
01:12:14,853 --> 01:12:17,812
Speaker 23: electricity that works all the time. These are things people

1474
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:21,253
Speaker 23: take for granted. And you can criticize for standards. I

1475
01:12:21,333 --> 01:12:24,092
Speaker 23: get that to keep the standard high, but be grateful

1476
01:12:24,133 --> 01:12:27,692
Speaker 23: for what you have. That is, we're really so blessed

1477
01:12:27,692 --> 01:12:28,892
Speaker 23: and so grateful to be here.

1478
01:12:29,372 --> 01:12:33,773
Speaker 2: Are you surprised how much winging there is from Kiwi's.

1479
01:12:34,933 --> 01:12:37,052
Speaker 23: I think it's because they just don't know any difference.

1480
01:12:38,293 --> 01:12:40,812
Speaker 23: So's it's kind of like, you know, we're involved in

1481
01:12:40,853 --> 01:12:44,053
Speaker 23: committees on schools and things and people will say they

1482
01:12:44,173 --> 01:12:46,412
Speaker 23: want this or they're not happy about this or whatever,

1483
01:12:46,893 --> 01:12:48,812
Speaker 23: and then I say to them politely, well why don't

1484
01:12:48,812 --> 01:12:51,772
Speaker 23: you come and join the committee to make a difference.

1485
01:12:52,173 --> 01:12:55,052
Speaker 23: And of course some people don't, but it's all about

1486
01:12:55,093 --> 01:12:58,413
Speaker 23: what you can what you can do to your micro environment.

1487
01:12:58,492 --> 01:13:00,732
Speaker 23: And that collectively makes up this great country.

1488
01:13:00,853 --> 01:13:03,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call, Charles. Ask

1489
01:13:03,492 --> 01:13:06,572
Speaker 2: what you ask, not what you your micro climate can

1490
01:13:06,572 --> 01:13:09,692
Speaker 2: do for you, Ask what you can for your micro climate.

1491
01:13:09,772 --> 01:13:12,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're leaning into JFK today and I'm loving it.

1492
01:13:12,412 --> 01:13:14,253
Speaker 2: No, I love that call from Charles. Thank you so much.

1493
01:13:14,732 --> 01:13:17,572
Speaker 3: Rob's come back and he said Singapore is cleaner and

1494
01:13:17,612 --> 01:13:20,412
Speaker 3: more advanced than New Zealand and closer to to holiday

1495
01:13:20,452 --> 01:13:23,772
Speaker 3: spots that take that. Come on, robys, We'll go to

1496
01:13:23,812 --> 01:13:25,692
Speaker 3: Singapore then, mate, compare something stopping you?

1497
01:13:26,093 --> 01:13:31,293
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean then the United Singapore definitely fantastic place, beautiful, beautiful,

1498
01:13:31,293 --> 01:13:34,692
Speaker 2: clean streets, but you might not like some parts of it.

1499
01:13:34,853 --> 01:13:38,052
Speaker 3: Exactly. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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01:13:38,093 --> 01:13:42,093
Speaker 3: to call. It is eleven to three, the issues.

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01:13:41,692 --> 01:13:44,173
Speaker 1: That affect you and a bit of fun along the way.

1502
01:13:44,412 --> 01:13:48,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News Talk ZB.

1503
01:13:49,612 --> 01:13:52,732
Speaker 3: News Talks THEREB it is eight to three and.

1504
01:13:52,692 --> 01:13:56,093
Speaker 2: This Texas says absolute rubbish from you guys. I've been

1505
01:13:56,173 --> 01:13:59,492
Speaker 2: to forty countries. New Zealand ain't the most picturesque or

1506
01:13:59,652 --> 01:14:03,772
Speaker 2: cheapest or the best culture. And that's from a Karen. Wow,

1507
01:14:05,133 --> 01:14:08,293
Speaker 2: I'm not saying from our Karen, from someone called Carmen.

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01:14:08,492 --> 01:14:09,452
Speaker 3: That was their actual name.

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01:14:09,572 --> 01:14:09,772
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1510
01:14:09,933 --> 01:14:12,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've lived in lived ten years in Europe and

1511
01:14:12,772 --> 01:14:14,852
Speaker 2: all over Europe, and seventeen years in the US. Spent

1512
01:14:14,933 --> 01:14:16,333
Speaker 2: a lot of time in Australia. I moved back to

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Speaker 2: New Zealand twenty seventeen. Greatest place in the world. It

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01:14:19,173 --> 01:14:21,572
Speaker 2: has its problems, but so does everyone else. Send man,

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01:14:21,652 --> 01:14:24,093
Speaker 2: that's the whole that's the whole point of it.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't that exactly nicely? See it? And man, Cody, you

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01:14:27,652 --> 01:14:30,612
Speaker 3: just spent some weeks traveling in the Middle East.

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Speaker 27: Oh, I was away for work actually, But yeah, I

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01:14:34,492 --> 01:14:38,372
Speaker 27: agree with you said everything caller that rang up. People

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01:14:38,412 --> 01:14:40,333
Speaker 27: just need to experience other countries and then they'll probably

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01:14:40,372 --> 01:14:43,492
Speaker 27: realize how good I've got it over here. I'll I

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01:14:43,492 --> 01:14:45,053
Speaker 27: lived for a year and a half overseas in the

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01:14:45,053 --> 01:14:47,412
Speaker 27: States and it wasn't too bad, but always just wanted

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01:14:47,412 --> 01:14:48,772
Speaker 27: to get back to New Zealand. And I've traveled to

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01:14:48,853 --> 01:14:51,012
Speaker 27: a lot of countries and I go to country school

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01:14:51,013 --> 01:14:53,812
Speaker 27: works that aren't countries you generally travel too, so they're

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01:14:53,812 --> 01:14:57,532
Speaker 27: pretty rough. And we've got it pretty damn good here in.

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Speaker 2: What ways, What are the ways that stick out to

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01:14:59,452 --> 01:15:01,253
Speaker 2: you when you come back to New Zealand that are

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01:15:01,253 --> 01:15:04,292
Speaker 2: better than when you travel the places you travel.

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01:15:04,093 --> 01:15:06,212
Speaker 27: To, there are a lot of people that live overseas

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01:15:06,213 --> 01:15:08,293
Speaker 27: that live probably in pretty rough years, but those biggest

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01:15:08,372 --> 01:15:10,572
Speaker 27: he's like that, he's talking about the things for great

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01:15:10,572 --> 01:15:12,333
Speaker 27: but it's a concrete jungle like you just you've got

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01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:17,092
Speaker 27: the spacey you know, like space and obviously the poverty.

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01:15:17,093 --> 01:15:18,452
Speaker 27: You don't really need to talk to much about that.

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01:15:18,492 --> 01:15:20,852
Speaker 27: But I've been to a lot of the world countries,

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Speaker 27: even in the last few weeks.

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Speaker 24: And.

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01:15:24,053 --> 01:15:26,772
Speaker 27: There's some pretty rough people living pretty rough out there. Yeah,

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01:15:27,053 --> 01:15:28,293
Speaker 27: as soon as you're back in New Zee and you

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01:15:28,333 --> 01:15:32,253
Speaker 27: realize he's I'm sure it's expensive, it's not. It's not

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01:15:32,293 --> 01:15:36,372
Speaker 27: great in every way. Yeah, but I'd say, you know,

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01:15:36,412 --> 01:15:39,573
Speaker 27: I've lived sorry, he probably spent two or three years overseas,

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01:15:39,933 --> 01:15:41,452
Speaker 27: and that is nowhere that sticks out to me that

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01:15:41,492 --> 01:15:42,412
Speaker 27: I'd rather live than here.

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01:15:42,652 --> 01:15:44,093
Speaker 2: Cody, what part of New Zealand do you live in.

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01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:46,892
Speaker 27: I'm from South and they grow up on a family

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01:15:46,893 --> 01:15:48,732
Speaker 27: down there, but I live in Auckland.

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01:15:48,933 --> 01:15:51,253
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because I mean that that's what this

1551
01:15:51,293 --> 01:15:54,532
Speaker 2: couple that started this chat. This this British couple that

1552
01:15:54,572 --> 01:15:58,213
Speaker 2: have moved here. They say access to nature and outdoor

1553
01:15:58,253 --> 01:16:02,293
Speaker 2: activities is just like nothing they've ever seen before where

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01:16:02,333 --> 01:16:04,053
Speaker 2: they come from. And that that's I mean, we take

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01:16:04,093 --> 01:16:07,812
Speaker 2: that for granted. Say Auckland, for example, there are so

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01:16:07,853 --> 01:16:12,013
Speaker 2: many beat here. Yeah, and and they're accessible. You can

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01:16:12,053 --> 01:16:15,173
Speaker 2: just go to a beautiful beach. Yeah, you know, and

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01:16:15,213 --> 01:16:17,253
Speaker 2: we you know Singapore.

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01:16:16,853 --> 01:16:19,452
Speaker 3: Is not like that, No it is. It's a massive

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01:16:19,452 --> 01:16:21,692
Speaker 3: appeal for a lot of people, Cody. As you say,

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01:16:21,812 --> 01:16:24,572
Speaker 3: around the world is that's a very difficult thing to

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01:16:24,692 --> 01:16:27,333
Speaker 3: find in many other countries, and we don't realize how

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01:16:27,492 --> 01:16:29,372
Speaker 3: luckily we are. I mean even mountains in the North

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01:16:29,372 --> 01:16:32,052
Speaker 3: Island when it's not known for mountains, but four hours

1565
01:16:32,093 --> 01:16:35,053
Speaker 3: away I can go and see in beautiful volcano there's

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01:16:35,053 --> 01:16:37,852
Speaker 3: a skifield stool there. I mean, it's it's insane.

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01:16:38,013 --> 01:16:40,973
Speaker 2: In Singapore. Try taking a couple of dogs and a

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01:16:41,053 --> 01:16:44,293
Speaker 2: gun and heading out into the bush. Yeah yeah, get

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01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:45,412
Speaker 2: yourself a pig, good luck.

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01:16:46,133 --> 01:16:49,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe at the zoo. Cody, thank you very much,

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01:16:49,692 --> 01:16:51,892
Speaker 3: make good to chat. We're going to carry this on

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01:16:51,973 --> 01:16:53,572
Speaker 3: after three o'clock. So our e one hundred and eighty

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01:16:53,612 --> 01:16:55,133
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you are

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01:16:55,173 --> 01:16:57,253
Speaker 3: a migrant to New Zealand. Why did you come here?

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01:16:57,253 --> 01:17:00,213
Speaker 3: What do you find fantastic about it? Let's spread some

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01:17:00,492 --> 01:17:03,612
Speaker 3: positivity because I think we've just got into this trap

1577
01:17:03,652 --> 01:17:06,772
Speaker 3: of winging about how crap this country is and it's

1578
01:17:06,812 --> 01:17:07,333
Speaker 3: just not true.

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01:17:07,492 --> 01:17:10,892
Speaker 2: And supplement requestion, is it time to start shaming the

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01:17:10,893 --> 01:17:13,732
Speaker 2: Wines as being ignorant people that haven't seen the rest

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01:17:13,772 --> 01:17:14,173
Speaker 2: of the world.

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01:17:14,333 --> 01:17:19,212
Speaker 3: Exactly a couple of texts up until the news. Good A, guys,

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01:17:19,253 --> 01:17:22,372
Speaker 3: I am from South Africa and I'm so sick of

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01:17:22,452 --> 01:17:25,532
Speaker 3: hearing New Zealanders winge about this country. I am so

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01:17:25,652 --> 01:17:27,572
Speaker 3: fricking lucky to be able to call this place my

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01:17:27,772 --> 01:17:30,572
Speaker 3: new home. You guys, as fred Dagg's here, don't know

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01:17:30,612 --> 01:17:32,133
Speaker 3: how bloody lucky you are.

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01:17:33,093 --> 01:17:35,852
Speaker 2: Afternoon. I love New Zealand, moved here five years ago.

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01:17:35,933 --> 01:17:37,612
Speaker 2: Being to thirty countries in New Zealand's by far the

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01:17:37,652 --> 01:17:40,013
Speaker 2: most beautiful and friendly country I've been to. We're so

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01:17:40,173 --> 01:17:42,812
Speaker 2: lucky over here. I'm from Mexico and my wife is

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01:17:42,893 --> 01:17:45,532
Speaker 2: kiw lovely to be a tourist in Mexico, but different

1593
01:17:46,053 --> 01:17:49,572
Speaker 2: when you are part of the system. Glacis that's from Gabrielle.

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01:17:49,293 --> 01:17:53,532
Speaker 3: Nice Hey and Rob's text back again as latest one is, Guys,

1595
01:17:53,572 --> 01:17:55,933
Speaker 3: I didn't mean your show is backwards, but I have

1596
01:17:56,013 --> 01:17:58,932
Speaker 3: to balance out all the positive advertising BS for you

1597
01:18:00,133 --> 01:18:03,892
Speaker 3: promoting hard to believe so many just their own place

1598
01:18:04,093 --> 01:18:07,652
Speaker 3: they come from with contempt like they endophobic. So he's

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01:18:07,692 --> 01:18:09,892
Speaker 3: come around now, thank you, Rob, That's all we ask.

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01:18:09,933 --> 01:18:11,412
Speaker 2: He's kind of come around. You sort of come around.

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01:18:11,412 --> 01:18:13,532
Speaker 2: Then he went circle background and went against us. But

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01:18:13,772 --> 01:18:15,932
Speaker 2: love you text Rob, Yeah, and thank you so much

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01:18:16,013 --> 01:18:18,213
Speaker 2: to everyone that listens to the show and communicates with us.

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01:18:18,372 --> 01:18:20,213
Speaker 3: Keep them coming. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten

1605
01:18:20,293 --> 01:18:22,053
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call if you want to

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01:18:22,053 --> 01:18:24,492
Speaker 3: see in the text. Nine two ninety two is that number.

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01:18:24,572 --> 01:18:27,253
Speaker 3: New Sport and weather coming up. You're listening to matt

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01:18:27,293 --> 01:18:51,493
Speaker 3: and Tyler. Very very good afternoon to you.

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01:18:51,492 --> 01:18:55,852
Speaker 1: Your new home are insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

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01:18:56,013 --> 01:18:59,933
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons on news Talk Sebby.

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01:19:00,772 --> 01:19:03,572
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Having a great discussion. Are

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01:19:03,612 --> 01:19:05,412
Speaker 3: we just a little bit whiny when it comes to

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01:19:05,492 --> 01:19:07,372
Speaker 3: life here in New Zealand. There was a great story

1614
01:19:07,372 --> 01:19:09,452
Speaker 3: out from the Telegram when the UK talked about the

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01:19:09,492 --> 01:19:12,852
Speaker 3: process of moving to New Zealand from the UK, several

1616
01:19:12,853 --> 01:19:15,053
Speaker 3: personal stories of couples who had made them move and

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01:19:15,093 --> 01:19:18,813
Speaker 3: how much they adore this little country of ours.

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01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:25,492
Speaker 2: How can it be that migrants New Zealand talk so

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01:19:25,492 --> 01:19:29,012
Speaker 2: so positively about our country as these two migrants said,

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01:19:29,093 --> 01:19:31,892
Speaker 2: improve work, life balance and family times say for environment,

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01:19:31,933 --> 01:19:35,492
Speaker 2: for raising children, friendly and inclusive local communities, access to

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01:19:35,572 --> 01:19:38,852
Speaker 2: nature and outdoor activities, less daily stress compared to life

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01:19:38,933 --> 01:19:42,333
Speaker 2: in the UK. How can call after call to the

1624
01:19:42,412 --> 01:19:44,812
Speaker 2: show and text after text from migrants to this country

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01:19:44,893 --> 01:19:46,652
Speaker 2: is telling us how great it is compared to where

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01:19:46,652 --> 01:19:50,732
Speaker 2: they've been and what they've seen. How can that be

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01:19:50,812 --> 01:19:55,093
Speaker 2: the case? And yet we are winging and winging and

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01:19:55,173 --> 01:19:59,412
Speaker 2: winging about our country. So who's wrong migrants to our

1629
01:19:59,412 --> 01:20:03,532
Speaker 2: country or us? Are we have we forgotten how lucky

1630
01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:03,772
Speaker 2: we are?

1631
01:20:03,853 --> 01:20:03,973
Speaker 5: Now?

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01:20:04,213 --> 01:20:06,652
Speaker 3: Just got to stop and smell the roses and go

1633
01:20:06,692 --> 01:20:08,812
Speaker 3: back and ever listen to the last hour and stot

1634
01:20:08,812 --> 01:20:10,972
Speaker 3: for that matter, and it will make you feel good

1635
01:20:11,013 --> 01:20:13,253
Speaker 3: about living here in New Zealand. But love to hear

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01:20:13,772 --> 01:20:15,372
Speaker 3: what you think about this O E one hundred eighty

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01:20:15,412 --> 01:20:15,972
Speaker 3: ten eighty.

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01:20:15,812 --> 01:20:17,932
Speaker 2: This Texas one hundred percent agree with that last caller.

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01:20:18,013 --> 01:20:20,812
Speaker 2: Anyone body complaining about this country has obviously never worked

1640
01:20:20,853 --> 01:20:23,532
Speaker 2: or lived overseas. Came here over thirty years ago, having

1641
01:20:23,612 --> 01:20:27,053
Speaker 2: lived and worked in over thirteen countries. New Zealand will

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01:20:27,093 --> 01:20:30,852
Speaker 2: always be a breath of fresh air. Harvin, Welcome to

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01:20:30,893 --> 01:20:31,213
Speaker 2: the show.

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01:20:33,013 --> 01:20:40,492
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, nice to chat with you. So how old

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01:20:40,532 --> 01:20:42,133
Speaker 3: are you? How old are you?

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01:20:42,173 --> 01:20:44,572
Speaker 32: Haven't, I'm eleven years old?

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01:20:44,933 --> 01:20:48,412
Speaker 3: Eleven years old? And where are your parents from?

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01:20:48,772 --> 01:20:52,372
Speaker 32: I'm my fans are from India?

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01:20:52,652 --> 01:20:58,012
Speaker 3: Is that your mum in the background? Hervin? Oh, Harvin,

1650
01:20:58,093 --> 01:20:59,932
Speaker 3: I think we might the phone might have just cut out.

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01:20:59,933 --> 01:21:00,532
Speaker 3: Are you still there?

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01:21:00,532 --> 01:21:05,612
Speaker 2: Haven, I'm here, Okay, Haven. How long have you been

1653
01:21:05,652 --> 01:21:06,173
Speaker 2: in New Zealand?

1654
01:21:06,213 --> 01:21:09,333
Speaker 5: For when I was?

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01:21:09,412 --> 01:21:10,812
Speaker 32: I was born in New Zealand.

1656
01:21:11,253 --> 01:21:11,333
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:21:11,452 --> 01:21:15,812
Speaker 2: Huh? And uh? Where are your parents from New Zealand?

1658
01:21:16,492 --> 01:21:20,412
Speaker 11: Originally no, my parents were not.

1659
01:21:22,412 --> 01:21:23,532
Speaker 2: Where were your parents from? Heaven?

1660
01:21:24,692 --> 01:21:25,412
Speaker 32: India?

1661
01:21:25,732 --> 01:21:27,812
Speaker 2: Okay? And do you like New Zealand?

1662
01:21:30,053 --> 01:21:30,693
Speaker 30: Huh?

1663
01:21:30,732 --> 01:21:32,133
Speaker 2: Do you like New Zealand?

1664
01:21:32,732 --> 01:21:32,972
Speaker 3: Yes?

1665
01:21:33,093 --> 01:21:34,092
Speaker 32: I like New Zealand.

1666
01:21:34,133 --> 01:21:35,733
Speaker 2: Do your parents like New Zealand?

1667
01:21:36,293 --> 01:21:37,092
Speaker 32: Oh? Yes?

1668
01:21:38,732 --> 01:21:40,293
Speaker 2: What do they like about New Zealand? Heaven?

1669
01:21:43,213 --> 01:21:46,293
Speaker 32: They like that It's like there's lots of trees and

1670
01:21:46,492 --> 01:21:50,213
Speaker 32: we can always go like we can always go to

1671
01:21:50,412 --> 01:21:54,732
Speaker 32: like once we went to Carmandel and it was like

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01:21:57,053 --> 01:21:59,572
Speaker 32: there was no no people there.

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01:21:59,973 --> 01:22:01,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do that well.

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01:22:01,893 --> 01:22:03,453
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:22:03,572 --> 01:22:04,533
Speaker 32: And the weather.

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01:22:04,853 --> 01:22:07,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, good weather, good beaches.

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01:22:07,412 --> 01:22:12,932
Speaker 27: Haven, Yes, and they're good people, good people.

1678
01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:16,213
Speaker 2: Oh love your gorgeous Thank you so much for your call, Harvin,

1679
01:22:16,293 --> 01:22:19,572
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Good people and sometimes not very many people.

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01:22:19,692 --> 01:22:19,932
Speaker 6: Yep.

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01:22:20,093 --> 01:22:23,133
Speaker 2: Lots of trees, lots of tree, good beaches.

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01:22:22,893 --> 01:22:24,412
Speaker 3: Corrimandel beautiful place.

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01:22:24,572 --> 01:22:26,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is an interesting thing. Although I was

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01:22:26,893 --> 01:22:29,293
Speaker 2: saying before that I think New Zealand could do with

1685
01:22:29,452 --> 01:22:31,812
Speaker 2: some more people. And this person texted with me. A

1686
01:22:31,853 --> 01:22:34,133
Speaker 2: lot of people said, how dare you, Matt. You'll ruin

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01:22:34,412 --> 01:22:36,933
Speaker 2: this country if you have too many people here. You know,

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01:22:37,093 --> 01:22:40,492
Speaker 2: I'm always saying on the show that that population decline

1689
01:22:40,572 --> 01:22:42,412
Speaker 2: is a huge problem, and I think people would do

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01:22:42,492 --> 01:22:43,772
Speaker 2: everything they can to have more children.

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01:22:43,893 --> 01:22:44,133
Speaker 6: Yep.

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01:22:44,333 --> 01:22:46,852
Speaker 2: I've always saying this, but this person is one of

1693
01:22:46,893 --> 01:22:50,052
Speaker 2: the few people that agrees with me. Guys, in my opinion,

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01:22:50,133 --> 01:22:52,133
Speaker 2: we need a less a population of fifteen million to

1695
01:22:52,133 --> 01:22:54,492
Speaker 2: get the revenue up to improve our country. That's from Craig. Yeah,

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01:22:54,772 --> 01:22:56,173
Speaker 2: there's room for fifteen million here.

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01:22:56,253 --> 01:22:58,293
Speaker 3: Zat numbers sound pretty good to you fifteen million.

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01:22:58,412 --> 01:23:00,812
Speaker 2: But then again, Harvin, if he goes there and there's

1699
01:23:00,853 --> 01:23:02,972
Speaker 2: there's no people there, and then if we get fifteen

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01:23:03,013 --> 01:23:05,293
Speaker 2: million people, the places that you go with their very

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01:23:05,293 --> 01:23:07,132
Speaker 2: few people there will become less exactly.

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01:23:07,173 --> 01:23:09,372
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:23:09,372 --> 01:23:12,572
Speaker 3: call lovely to chat with you, Harvard. We'll be back

1704
01:23:12,692 --> 01:23:14,973
Speaker 3: very shortly. But there's plenty of great texts coming through

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01:23:15,013 --> 01:23:19,172
Speaker 3: on nine two ninety two as well. Very good afternoon,

1706
01:23:19,213 --> 01:23:22,692
Speaker 3: shee thirteen past three, and we're talking about how awesome

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01:23:22,772 --> 01:23:26,892
Speaker 3: New Zealanders. And we've had a lot of people hundreds

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01:23:26,973 --> 01:23:29,093
Speaker 3: texts through who have migrated here saying we don't know

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01:23:29,093 --> 01:23:29,812
Speaker 3: how lucky we are.

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01:23:29,933 --> 01:23:31,253
Speaker 2: Have you heard of Godwin's law?

1711
01:23:32,053 --> 01:23:35,173
Speaker 3: Or is that? Actually? Just tell me what it is?

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01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:37,933
Speaker 2: I don't know right, Actually I'm paraphrasing here, but I

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01:23:37,973 --> 01:23:41,333
Speaker 2: think it's basically that if you bring up Hitler in

1714
01:23:41,372 --> 01:23:44,492
Speaker 2: a conversation, you basically lose. That's right, yeah, And also

1715
01:23:44,532 --> 01:23:47,333
Speaker 2: that all conversations tend towards Hitler the longer they go

1716
01:23:47,452 --> 01:23:50,612
Speaker 2: for yes arguments. So basically, if you invoke Hitler in

1717
01:23:50,652 --> 01:23:54,412
Speaker 2: the conversation, then it's considered a lazy argument and you lose, right.

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01:23:54,812 --> 01:23:56,772
Speaker 2: I think I want to start a law called Heath's Law,

1719
01:23:57,093 --> 01:24:00,053
Speaker 2: and it's when you inject Trump into a conversation when

1720
01:24:00,053 --> 01:24:02,052
Speaker 2: it's got absolutely nothing to do with Trump.

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01:24:02,093 --> 01:24:02,852
Speaker 3: I see where you're going.

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01:24:02,933 --> 01:24:07,372
Speaker 2: Yeople are so sucked in and compressed by the black

1723
01:24:07,412 --> 01:24:12,052
Speaker 2: hole that is the non stop lazy media coverage of Trump.

1724
01:24:12,532 --> 01:24:15,532
Speaker 2: That and the and the sugar rush they get of

1725
01:24:15,572 --> 01:24:18,532
Speaker 2: mentioning Trump, that they'll bring it into anything like this

1726
01:24:18,612 --> 01:24:21,253
Speaker 2: takes to here. So what's your point? Trump supporters love

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01:24:21,293 --> 01:24:23,572
Speaker 2: living in the States, their best country in the world.

1728
01:24:23,612 --> 01:24:27,133
Speaker 2: People live all over the world. You know what has

1729
01:24:27,173 --> 01:24:29,413
Speaker 2: Trump got to do with this goddamn conversation?

1730
01:24:29,933 --> 01:24:30,293
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1731
01:24:30,572 --> 01:24:33,732
Speaker 2: Injecting Trump and the conversations that have absolutely nothing to

1732
01:24:33,732 --> 01:24:37,412
Speaker 2: do with your meeting, you should immediately lose the argument.

1733
01:24:37,933 --> 01:24:39,692
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about hates law.

1734
01:24:40,173 --> 01:24:41,213
Speaker 3: I like that law.

1735
01:24:41,253 --> 01:24:44,213
Speaker 2: Don't inject Trump into conversations that has nothing to do

1736
01:24:44,293 --> 01:24:47,092
Speaker 2: with Trump. Welcome to the show, Damien.

1737
01:24:47,133 --> 01:24:52,932
Speaker 33: You're from Malaysia originally, yes, hi, Hi?

1738
01:24:53,372 --> 01:24:54,492
Speaker 2: Yeah? How long have you been here?

1739
01:24:54,652 --> 01:24:59,412
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, just under tree here. And I've actually

1740
01:24:59,412 --> 01:25:03,013
Speaker 5: got two things to say. Yeah. So, first thing is

1741
01:25:03,372 --> 01:25:05,452
Speaker 5: no countries that were perfect. Number One, I was a

1742
01:25:05,492 --> 01:25:08,932
Speaker 5: flight defendant. So I've traveled quite a bit. Yeah uh

1743
01:25:09,133 --> 01:25:12,333
Speaker 5: and yeah, well I haven't been in Europe or America,

1744
01:25:13,452 --> 01:25:18,892
Speaker 5: but yeah uh and Malaysia being in number two. Yeah,

1745
01:25:19,053 --> 01:25:24,173
Speaker 5: so yeah, it's the values, it's your subjective take on

1746
01:25:24,572 --> 01:25:27,852
Speaker 5: a country. For example, you know, if food is you know,

1747
01:25:27,933 --> 01:25:30,652
Speaker 5: street food is cheap there I can get in Malaysia,

1748
01:25:30,652 --> 01:25:32,652
Speaker 5: I could get food for that two dollars street dollars

1749
01:25:32,652 --> 01:25:33,412
Speaker 5: twenty four to seven.

1750
01:25:33,652 --> 01:25:33,852
Speaker 2: Yep.

1751
01:25:34,013 --> 01:25:36,572
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, but you know there's a chance of

1752
01:25:37,293 --> 01:25:41,293
Speaker 5: well it's not very clean. So yeah, that's that's so

1753
01:25:41,532 --> 01:25:44,213
Speaker 5: my my take is would someone be willing to do

1754
01:25:45,133 --> 01:25:47,652
Speaker 5: to do to pay to play a koremium? Yeah, you

1755
01:25:47,652 --> 01:25:48,852
Speaker 5: know it's twenty dollars meal here?

1756
01:25:48,973 --> 01:25:51,132
Speaker 3: And what did you what did you pick New Zealand

1757
01:25:51,133 --> 01:25:51,452
Speaker 3: to come to?

1758
01:25:51,572 --> 01:25:59,412
Speaker 5: Damian lovely country, walks, creaming green, people of people are friendly.

1759
01:25:59,532 --> 01:26:03,133
Speaker 5: And obviously it's not not every not not one hundred

1760
01:26:03,173 --> 01:26:05,692
Speaker 5: percent true, but not always a hundred percent true, but

1761
01:26:05,732 --> 01:26:08,772
Speaker 5: it's it's well, it's it's still psatively true. And the

1762
01:26:08,812 --> 01:26:11,053
Speaker 5: second thing I would like to if you don't mind

1763
01:26:11,053 --> 01:26:14,213
Speaker 5: me talking, this second thing I would like to bring

1764
01:26:14,293 --> 01:26:18,972
Speaker 5: up with Rob just now got Singapore. I mean, everyone

1765
01:26:19,053 --> 01:26:20,932
Speaker 5: is very going. Well, I see, I see, I see

1766
01:26:20,933 --> 01:26:23,972
Speaker 5: a pattern here. Everyone's very goot Singapore being the man Asian.

1767
01:26:24,133 --> 01:26:26,852
Speaker 5: I think many of us work in Singapore. By the way,

1768
01:26:27,013 --> 01:26:31,732
Speaker 5: four hundred thousand people cross the causeway from Malaysia Singapore

1769
01:26:31,772 --> 01:26:34,812
Speaker 5: every morning and back. Yeah, that's the population of christ

1770
01:26:34,893 --> 01:26:38,173
Speaker 5: Church crossing in and out every day. So and I've

1771
01:26:38,213 --> 01:26:41,372
Speaker 5: got heaps of friends who've worked in Singapore and they say, yeah,

1772
01:26:41,612 --> 01:26:44,532
Speaker 5: it's everything works. It's you're a tourist, Yeah, it's it's

1773
01:26:44,532 --> 01:26:48,452
Speaker 5: it's probably yeah, probably heaven or Earth, but liven' there is.

1774
01:26:49,253 --> 01:26:52,812
Speaker 5: Living there is is really really competitive. Now. The thing is,

1775
01:26:53,213 --> 01:26:56,492
Speaker 5: the thing is being a tourist in their country versus

1776
01:26:56,532 --> 01:26:59,852
Speaker 5: actually living there are two very very different things. Because

1777
01:26:59,893 --> 01:27:01,692
Speaker 5: you know, you had a great time in Baal, your attire,

1778
01:27:01,812 --> 01:27:04,572
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that it's it's it's it's a great place.

1779
01:27:04,933 --> 01:27:07,093
Speaker 2: A lot of people, a lot of people have discovered that.

1780
01:27:08,372 --> 01:27:10,572
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, And and and the other thing is

1781
01:27:10,652 --> 01:27:14,213
Speaker 5: I've got friends from Singaporean friends. I've actually got a

1782
01:27:14,213 --> 01:27:19,853
Speaker 5: friend a nurse couple from from Singapore achieved then they've

1783
01:27:19,893 --> 01:27:24,732
Speaker 5: immigrated through Brema and because they have they have two children. Yeah,

1784
01:27:24,732 --> 01:27:26,612
Speaker 5: they said, it's a much better pace to bring up

1785
01:27:26,612 --> 01:27:28,412
Speaker 5: because you know, they go to the bush, they go

1786
01:27:28,492 --> 01:27:34,093
Speaker 5: to London and every yeah, almost every every weekend. Yeah.

1787
01:27:34,612 --> 01:27:38,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Damon and I had a friend I haven't

1788
01:27:38,412 --> 01:27:39,893
Speaker 2: talked to him for a while but called Omar that

1789
01:27:40,053 --> 01:27:42,852
Speaker 2: was from Malaysia and he moved to Duned and he

1790
01:27:42,893 --> 01:27:47,052
Speaker 2: was at university with me and he he what he said,

1791
01:27:47,372 --> 01:27:50,092
Speaker 2: but he loved a lot of it. But he said

1792
01:27:50,133 --> 01:27:52,732
Speaker 2: it was so quiet and there was so little going

1793
01:27:52,732 --> 01:27:55,453
Speaker 2: on that he sort of got a wave of depression

1794
01:27:56,093 --> 01:27:57,652
Speaker 2: because he was so used to you talk about the

1795
01:27:57,652 --> 01:28:00,173
Speaker 2: street food. He was so used to all the activity,

1796
01:28:00,412 --> 01:28:01,893
Speaker 2: and even though it was a little bit stressful, he

1797
01:28:02,372 --> 01:28:05,732
Speaker 2: missed that and he kind of he said, it got

1798
01:28:05,732 --> 01:28:09,293
Speaker 2: to him and eventually, you know, he loves Malaysia now again.

1799
01:28:09,692 --> 01:28:11,532
Speaker 2: But did do you get any of that that that

1800
01:28:11,652 --> 01:28:14,333
Speaker 2: the quiet quiet here is a lot to deal with.

1801
01:28:16,133 --> 01:28:20,852
Speaker 5: Is differently? I actually I actually ringe about that a

1802
01:28:20,893 --> 01:28:25,012
Speaker 5: lot to my partners. To the social religion. Yeah, yeah,

1803
01:28:25,053 --> 01:28:29,812
Speaker 5: because kl where I'm from, program for is it's double

1804
01:28:29,853 --> 01:28:31,692
Speaker 5: the size of It's almost the size of London. It's

1805
01:28:31,692 --> 01:28:35,052
Speaker 5: double the size of the population of New Zealand. Yeah,

1806
01:28:35,253 --> 01:28:38,213
Speaker 5: and obviously yeah, that's one of my pain points. But

1807
01:28:38,572 --> 01:28:42,253
Speaker 5: I try, and you know, I try and have some gratitude,

1808
01:28:42,293 --> 01:28:44,772
Speaker 5: you know, like like so many people like I've got

1809
01:28:44,853 --> 01:28:47,053
Speaker 5: friends who are very qualified and they want to stay on.

1810
01:28:47,933 --> 01:28:51,293
Speaker 5: I don't consider myself very qualified, but you know I

1811
01:28:51,612 --> 01:28:54,652
Speaker 5: I my partner was offered a job by her boss,

1812
01:28:54,652 --> 01:28:56,573
Speaker 5: who's also a friend of ours.

1813
01:28:57,492 --> 01:28:57,692
Speaker 23: Yeah.

1814
01:28:57,692 --> 01:29:00,932
Speaker 5: I've been very spiritual and religious of the eight and yeah,

1815
01:29:01,372 --> 01:29:05,772
Speaker 5: exercise and gratitude. So so yeah, I mean food through

1816
01:29:05,772 --> 01:29:09,012
Speaker 5: all the wings there. I mean, especially the people who

1817
01:29:09,013 --> 01:29:13,692
Speaker 5: say Singapore is you know, Singapore is incredible. If you

1818
01:29:13,692 --> 01:29:15,572
Speaker 5: can go and reddit and you go on this this

1819
01:29:15,692 --> 01:29:21,692
Speaker 5: subreddit r slash Singapore raw and r stash asked Singapore

1820
01:29:21,732 --> 01:29:23,293
Speaker 5: and you can see you can see the amount of

1821
01:29:23,333 --> 01:29:29,532
Speaker 5: Singapore is winging there. Well, yeah, because it's it's a

1822
01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:31,973
Speaker 5: small it's a city state. One one one of one

1823
01:29:32,013 --> 01:29:34,812
Speaker 5: of the thin points. Men Singaporees tell me they can't

1824
01:29:34,853 --> 01:29:38,532
Speaker 5: have a place to escape to. It's not like imagine

1825
01:29:38,532 --> 01:29:41,492
Speaker 5: if open was its own country at Papa to Albany

1826
01:29:41,692 --> 01:29:44,812
Speaker 5: and that that's that's how big Singapore is. And you

1827
01:29:44,812 --> 01:29:50,132
Speaker 5: you you anywhere outside it's the sea or it's too Malitia,

1828
01:29:50,213 --> 01:29:53,452
Speaker 5: which you need a passport for so so so. So

1829
01:29:53,572 --> 01:29:55,652
Speaker 5: if you could imagine that that that kind of situation

1830
01:29:56,492 --> 01:30:00,053
Speaker 5: of Caen the Assam. Yeah, probably they they be like, yeah,

1831
01:30:00,173 --> 01:30:02,372
Speaker 5: probably not they And and there are other things as well,

1832
01:30:02,452 --> 01:30:05,052
Speaker 5: you know, like like the word pressure.

1833
01:30:05,812 --> 01:30:06,092
Speaker 32: Uh.

1834
01:30:06,772 --> 01:30:10,612
Speaker 5: A friend of mine, she was an auditor in a

1835
01:30:10,452 --> 01:30:12,612
Speaker 5: in a in a big four company in a war.

1836
01:30:13,452 --> 01:30:16,652
Speaker 5: They had to work. It's very it's it's quite common

1837
01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:18,492
Speaker 5: for them to stay up to past midnight in the

1838
01:30:18,532 --> 01:30:20,852
Speaker 5: office and they don't even they don't even head back.

1839
01:30:20,933 --> 01:30:23,772
Speaker 33: They don't even hit home because the trains don't run

1840
01:30:23,772 --> 01:30:28,692
Speaker 33: anymore after midnight. Right, Yeah, yeah, obviously your your mileage

1841
01:30:28,853 --> 01:30:31,213
Speaker 33: ni very if you're an expat, you know you're coming,

1842
01:30:31,293 --> 01:30:35,133
Speaker 33: you know, with your big guns. And then well, for

1843
01:30:35,253 --> 01:30:37,412
Speaker 33: lack of a better word, you know we Asia, you

1844
01:30:37,452 --> 01:30:41,532
Speaker 33: know we you know, many companies tend to white worship.

1845
01:30:41,612 --> 01:30:43,893
Speaker 33: They say, oh, you know this this guy from this

1846
01:30:44,013 --> 01:30:46,293
Speaker 33: man from museum and he's so yeah, yeah he's he

1847
01:30:46,253 --> 01:30:49,132
Speaker 33: he can be CEO or what Yeah, probably that's fine.

1848
01:30:49,492 --> 01:30:53,133
Speaker 5: Yeah. I've got one more thing, one more thing. I

1849
01:30:53,372 --> 01:30:57,893
Speaker 5: followed this YouTuber who's Ouzzie actually, and he lives in Malaysia.

1850
01:30:58,213 --> 01:31:01,772
Speaker 5: I won't say his name across but he but I

1851
01:31:01,933 --> 01:31:05,812
Speaker 5: find people like that online a bit must meeting because

1852
01:31:06,293 --> 01:31:09,293
Speaker 5: he was talking about his interview. We I think an

1853
01:31:09,333 --> 01:31:11,052
Speaker 5: Aussie cup book, I need to move in the Asia,

1854
01:31:11,253 --> 01:31:13,652
Speaker 5: or you know, just to stretch your dollar because they say,

1855
01:31:13,692 --> 01:31:16,452
Speaker 5: you know what was in expensive? Hey, yeah, it's Ausie avenging,

1856
01:31:16,492 --> 01:31:20,932
Speaker 5: do you know? And yeah? Yeah, if you've gone, if

1857
01:31:20,933 --> 01:31:22,852
Speaker 5: you're going bad and you've gone to Australia for the

1858
01:31:22,893 --> 01:31:23,812
Speaker 5: a bringing as much.

1859
01:31:23,652 --> 01:31:26,013
Speaker 2: As this, Yeah, that's an interesting one, isn't it. I

1860
01:31:26,013 --> 01:31:28,732
Speaker 2: mean that's just the oldest adage in the book, isn't it.

1861
01:31:28,732 --> 01:31:31,213
Speaker 2: The grass is always greener. Yeah, so wherever you are,

1862
01:31:31,293 --> 01:31:33,452
Speaker 2: you think somewhere else is better.

1863
01:31:33,612 --> 01:31:33,812
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1864
01:31:33,893 --> 01:31:36,572
Speaker 2: But I have a friend that was born and grew

1865
01:31:36,652 --> 01:31:39,972
Speaker 2: up in Singapore, and she was saying her brother wanted

1866
01:31:40,013 --> 01:31:42,532
Speaker 2: to form a band, and so you can't. You have

1867
01:31:42,612 --> 01:31:45,053
Speaker 2: to get a permit every an individual permit every time

1868
01:31:45,093 --> 01:31:47,093
Speaker 2: you want to have a band practice. I mean I

1869
01:31:47,173 --> 01:31:49,133
Speaker 2: think they wanted to that. You know, they were trying

1870
01:31:49,133 --> 01:31:52,732
Speaker 2: to play some pretty horrific metal music. But Singapore is

1871
01:31:53,572 --> 01:31:55,812
Speaker 2: you know, there's all trade offs, isn't it.

1872
01:31:55,893 --> 01:31:58,412
Speaker 3: Yep, certainly is one hundred and eighty ten eighty c

1873
01:31:58,572 --> 01:32:01,012
Speaker 3: numbered call, take a few more calls. Next it's twenty

1874
01:32:01,053 --> 01:32:05,052
Speaker 3: two past three.

1875
01:32:06,213 --> 01:32:09,532
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoon call. Oh eight hundred

1876
01:32:09,572 --> 01:32:11,772
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZEDV.

1877
01:32:13,253 --> 01:32:16,852
Speaker 3: News Talk zed B. How beautiful is New Zealand. We

1878
01:32:16,973 --> 01:32:19,492
Speaker 3: get a lot of New Zealanders here who wing and

1879
01:32:19,572 --> 01:32:21,852
Speaker 3: say that this is a terrible country. It's all going wrong.

1880
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:23,772
Speaker 3: But over the last hour and a half we've had

1881
01:32:23,812 --> 01:32:26,372
Speaker 3: so many calls and texts from people who have immigrated

1882
01:32:26,492 --> 01:32:28,652
Speaker 3: yet saying we don't know how lucky we are.

1883
01:32:28,812 --> 01:32:31,012
Speaker 2: Love your show. Sister's text. I came here at forty

1884
01:32:31,093 --> 01:32:33,492
Speaker 2: husband was forty five. No one migrates at that age.

1885
01:32:33,492 --> 01:32:36,733
Speaker 2: From a land of milk and honey. Honey Malaysia. Girls

1886
01:32:36,853 --> 01:32:39,333
Speaker 2: with five and ten, best decision ever, wonderful home to

1887
01:32:39,372 --> 01:32:42,372
Speaker 2: bring up children, great family values. Twenty plus years later,

1888
01:32:42,572 --> 01:32:45,172
Speaker 2: we're still working, happy, with a great work life balance.

1889
01:32:45,213 --> 01:32:48,572
Speaker 2: Girls have grown up to be caring, competitor, responsible, hard worthing,

1890
01:32:48,893 --> 01:32:51,572
Speaker 2: hard working health professionals. This is my home now and

1891
01:32:51,612 --> 01:32:54,292
Speaker 2: has been for a long time. Grateful to be here. Bevana,

1892
01:32:54,772 --> 01:32:59,333
Speaker 2: love that ah Neil you love New Zealand.

1893
01:33:00,933 --> 01:33:02,972
Speaker 3: Hey, hey guys, get a mate Kee wee.

1894
01:33:03,093 --> 01:33:06,812
Speaker 17: Born and bred in the King Country, in the King Country,

1895
01:33:06,853 --> 01:33:10,772
Speaker 17: the good old King Country colony. Yeah, all these immigrants

1896
01:33:10,893 --> 01:33:12,612
Speaker 17: must have must know, you know, they must have heard

1897
01:33:12,612 --> 01:33:14,253
Speaker 17: Fred Dak song all those years ago.

1898
01:33:14,452 --> 01:33:15,652
Speaker 2: We know how lucky we are.

1899
01:33:16,492 --> 01:33:19,572
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, oh, you know our country, our country is great.

1900
01:33:21,173 --> 01:33:23,253
Speaker 17: So you know we've got all you know, we're one

1901
01:33:23,253 --> 01:33:25,933
Speaker 17: of the richest countries in the world. We've got infrastructure,

1902
01:33:25,973 --> 01:33:28,972
Speaker 17: we've got hot, cold running water, electros through, we've got cars,

1903
01:33:28,973 --> 01:33:33,092
Speaker 17: we've got a hospital system. Anyone can get a helping

1904
01:33:33,133 --> 01:33:37,653
Speaker 17: hand from the government in our country. We've got beautiful beaches.

1905
01:33:38,333 --> 01:33:41,012
Speaker 17: We don't have that many people living here. The South

1906
01:33:41,053 --> 01:33:45,612
Speaker 17: Island is such a vast expense, mountains, same in the

1907
01:33:45,652 --> 01:33:49,412
Speaker 17: North Island. And it's just like I don't believe. I

1908
01:33:49,412 --> 01:33:54,372
Speaker 17: can't believe people grizzle about our country. You know, in

1909
01:33:54,412 --> 01:33:57,452
Speaker 17: this world there's over two billion people that still have

1910
01:33:57,572 --> 01:33:59,012
Speaker 17: to cook with dumb and wood.

1911
01:33:59,372 --> 01:34:02,492
Speaker 28: Yeah yeah, get that through your heads.

1912
01:34:02,532 --> 01:34:06,532
Speaker 17: People, good about our country, you know. So yeah, hey mate,

1913
01:34:06,532 --> 01:34:08,333
Speaker 17: I'm one hundred percent love it.

1914
01:34:08,692 --> 01:34:12,892
Speaker 2: Well well preached, Neil, what beautiful words from you. Yeah,

1915
01:34:13,732 --> 01:34:15,812
Speaker 2: I'm standing on my feet. I've got I've got my

1916
01:34:15,933 --> 01:34:17,932
Speaker 2: hand on my heart great New Zealand of they nail

1917
01:34:18,333 --> 01:34:20,053
Speaker 2: turn those words that you just see it into our

1918
01:34:20,133 --> 01:34:22,213
Speaker 2: national anthem. Yep man, that makes you feel proud of

1919
01:34:22,253 --> 01:34:24,973
Speaker 2: the beautiful stuff, right, I think that.

1920
01:34:25,133 --> 01:34:28,333
Speaker 3: We have time to chip to Phil. Yeah, we'll squeeze

1921
01:34:28,372 --> 01:34:31,732
Speaker 3: fill and get a mate, get a tyler. How are

1922
01:34:31,732 --> 01:34:34,372
Speaker 3: you very good? Now? Forgive us Phil, But we're a

1923
01:34:34,372 --> 01:34:37,932
Speaker 3: bit short on time. So you you love New Zealand, mate,

1924
01:34:38,853 --> 01:34:39,173
Speaker 3: I do.

1925
01:34:39,253 --> 01:34:40,932
Speaker 9: I was going to crack a funny for Matt there,

1926
01:34:40,933 --> 01:34:42,452
Speaker 9: but since we haven't got time, because I was going

1927
01:34:42,532 --> 01:34:44,772
Speaker 9: to say I love New Zealand because of long white

1928
01:34:44,812 --> 01:34:46,253
Speaker 9: partnates and soil.

1929
01:34:47,452 --> 01:34:49,852
Speaker 2: Line, don't trigger me with the yeah.

1930
01:34:51,293 --> 01:34:52,892
Speaker 5: But no, but no, I do love.

1931
01:34:53,133 --> 01:34:55,293
Speaker 9: I love this country. I was born here, my father

1932
01:34:55,412 --> 01:34:58,092
Speaker 9: was born here, but my granddad came from Northern Ireland

1933
01:34:58,133 --> 01:35:02,693
Speaker 9: and my grandmother came from Glasgow. They went, they decided

1934
01:35:02,732 --> 01:35:05,053
Speaker 9: to leave their countries and they stopped and Naussie for

1935
01:35:05,093 --> 01:35:07,812
Speaker 9: a while and thought, no, no good there carrying on

1936
01:35:07,853 --> 01:35:08,492
Speaker 9: to New zeal And.

1937
01:35:08,612 --> 01:35:09,532
Speaker 5: Thank god they did.

1938
01:35:10,333 --> 01:35:12,772
Speaker 9: I just what that last caller was saying was a

1939
01:35:12,812 --> 01:35:16,772
Speaker 9: lot of what I was thinking as well. That's why

1940
01:35:16,853 --> 01:35:18,572
Speaker 9: you know when people say like you've done it the

1941
01:35:18,612 --> 01:35:20,532
Speaker 9: other day at third world country. I mean, what are

1942
01:35:20,572 --> 01:35:24,772
Speaker 9: you talking about? Third world country? Exactly, mate, Yeah, And

1943
01:35:24,853 --> 01:35:27,452
Speaker 9: I think I think there has been a sort of

1944
01:35:28,013 --> 01:35:30,253
Speaker 9: mentality of creeping and that never used to be. And

1945
01:35:30,293 --> 01:35:32,253
Speaker 9: I think we have become a slightly wingsy and I

1946
01:35:32,253 --> 01:35:34,293
Speaker 9: don't know why, but because we used to be the

1947
01:35:34,372 --> 01:35:38,173
Speaker 9: old can do attitude and I love the old Fred Dag.

1948
01:35:38,253 --> 01:35:40,372
Speaker 9: So that's my anthem. Mate. We don't know how luck you are.

1949
01:35:40,853 --> 01:35:44,092
Speaker 9: And I've never met anybody that's come from another country,

1950
01:35:44,173 --> 01:35:47,093
Speaker 9: especially England and says god, I regret moving here.

1951
01:35:47,133 --> 01:35:48,372
Speaker 5: I absolutely hate it.

1952
01:35:48,412 --> 01:35:52,612
Speaker 9: I'm off back again. They've only been positive, you know,

1953
01:35:52,853 --> 01:35:57,213
Speaker 9: and wanted to just glad they moved basically from their

1954
01:35:57,253 --> 01:35:57,932
Speaker 9: own countries.

1955
01:35:58,213 --> 01:36:00,133
Speaker 2: Spot on the go, Phil, thank you so much for

1956
01:36:00,093 --> 01:36:01,572
Speaker 2: your cool great New Zealander.

1957
01:36:01,652 --> 01:36:04,972
Speaker 3: Great New Zealand's Neil. Yeah, absolutely, and that's probably so's

1958
01:36:04,973 --> 01:36:09,133
Speaker 3: free Dag. Yeah, fantastic New Zealander. That makes you feel

1959
01:36:09,173 --> 01:36:11,812
Speaker 3: proud that era and a half. And man, oh man,

1960
01:36:11,893 --> 01:36:14,532
Speaker 3: the amount of ticks we got through from people have

1961
01:36:14,572 --> 01:36:17,293
Speaker 3: emigrated to here saying Kiwi's wake up. This is a

1962
01:36:17,293 --> 01:36:18,732
Speaker 3: great country and love to hear that.

1963
01:36:19,093 --> 01:36:23,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I agree, parsnips are just albino carrots. Yeah,

1964
01:36:23,732 --> 01:36:27,253
Speaker 2: you keep the parsnate, keep the New Zealand love coming through, yep,

1965
01:36:27,532 --> 01:36:30,732
Speaker 2: and keep the parsnate parsnip hate coming through, and then

1966
01:36:30,732 --> 01:36:31,692
Speaker 2: you'll make me a happy man.

1967
01:36:31,853 --> 01:36:33,812
Speaker 3: Love some parsnips. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten

1968
01:36:33,853 --> 01:36:34,732
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

1969
01:36:34,973 --> 01:36:40,133
Speaker 2: Hi, Oh God, pump yes, kumera yes, potato yes, but

1970
01:36:40,213 --> 01:36:42,412
Speaker 2: get that parsnip out of the roasting dish.

1971
01:36:42,532 --> 01:36:45,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, horseradish. That's a topic from your Yeah, we talked

1972
01:36:45,173 --> 01:36:47,652
Speaker 3: about roast yesterday. Anyway, coming up, we want to have

1973
01:36:47,652 --> 01:36:50,492
Speaker 3: a chat about your house. Does your house have a

1974
01:36:50,532 --> 01:36:53,012
Speaker 3: bit of a story to it? Have you ever purchased

1975
01:36:53,013 --> 01:36:55,213
Speaker 3: a house because it had something cool about it? This

1976
01:36:55,293 --> 01:36:58,572
Speaker 3: is on the back of the Jason Statham effect. Will

1977
01:36:58,572 --> 01:37:01,853
Speaker 3: tell you what that is very shortly. Headlines with railing coming.

1978
01:37:01,652 --> 01:37:08,133
Speaker 11: Up, US talk savy headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1979
01:37:08,333 --> 01:37:11,652
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. Unrest in the US

1980
01:37:11,933 --> 01:37:16,093
Speaker 11: is spreading. Demonstrations are into their fourth day in LA

1981
01:37:16,652 --> 01:37:20,372
Speaker 11: and a major protest is now mobilizing in Dallas, Texas,

1982
01:37:20,412 --> 01:37:24,293
Speaker 11: blocking streets. CNN reports people are gathering to march in

1983
01:37:24,372 --> 01:37:29,812
Speaker 11: cities stretching from Florida's Tampa to Massachusetts. One person's died

1984
01:37:29,973 --> 01:37:33,333
Speaker 11: after a house fire on Upper Huts Taradua Street overnight.

1985
01:37:33,652 --> 01:37:37,852
Speaker 11: The blaze isn't believed to be suspicious. Auckland Council's release

1986
01:37:37,893 --> 01:37:42,293
Speaker 11: of updated property value show widespread falls that are worse

1987
01:37:42,412 --> 01:37:45,452
Speaker 11: closer to the city center, where some lost value buy

1988
01:37:45,452 --> 01:37:49,452
Speaker 11: as much as fourteen percent. A plea for more support

1989
01:37:49,612 --> 01:37:52,253
Speaker 11: in the classroom to back up last year's record two

1990
01:37:52,293 --> 01:37:56,452
Speaker 11: point five percent growth in the workforce. A southerly flow

1991
01:37:56,492 --> 01:37:59,972
Speaker 11: through Coronet Peak and the Remarkables last week has dropped

1992
01:38:00,053 --> 01:38:03,612
Speaker 11: up to twenty centimeters of snow, raising hopes of Estella

1993
01:38:03,692 --> 01:38:08,333
Speaker 11: Queenstown ski season opening day on Saturday. What social media

1994
01:38:08,492 --> 01:38:12,253
Speaker 11: travel posts reveal about each generation. You can see the

1995
01:38:12,253 --> 01:38:15,213
Speaker 11: full column at in zid Herell Premium. Back to Matt

1996
01:38:15,253 --> 01:38:16,732
Speaker 11: Eath and Tyler Adams, you.

1997
01:38:16,732 --> 01:38:19,293
Speaker 24: Really think you're ready for the field? I once used

1998
01:38:19,293 --> 01:38:22,572
Speaker 24: to fibrillators on myself. I put shards of glass on

1999
01:38:22,692 --> 01:38:26,812
Speaker 24: my figh. I've jumped from a high rice building using

2000
01:38:26,853 --> 01:38:30,173
Speaker 24: only a raincoat as a parachute and broke both legs

2001
01:38:30,253 --> 01:38:33,772
Speaker 24: upon landing. I've swallowed enough microchips and shut them back

2002
01:38:33,772 --> 01:38:36,852
Speaker 24: out again to make a computer. This arm has been

2003
01:38:36,933 --> 01:38:41,692
Speaker 24: ripped off completely and reattached with this arm an nather.

2004
01:38:41,652 --> 01:38:43,333
Speaker 30: That's possible medically.

2005
01:38:43,532 --> 01:38:47,053
Speaker 24: During the threat of an assassination attempt, I appeared convincingly

2006
01:38:47,333 --> 01:38:51,253
Speaker 24: in front of Congress as a Barack Obama in blacknas.

2007
01:38:52,253 --> 01:38:55,452
Speaker 24: That's not appropriate. I watched The Woman I Love get

2008
01:38:55,492 --> 01:38:59,052
Speaker 24: tossed from a plane and hit by another plane mid air.

2009
01:38:59,492 --> 01:39:01,892
Speaker 24: I drive a car off a freeway on top of

2010
01:39:01,893 --> 01:39:02,613
Speaker 24: a train.

2011
01:39:03,652 --> 01:39:06,772
Speaker 2: While I was on fire, not the car. I was

2012
01:39:06,812 --> 01:39:12,333
Speaker 2: on fire. The great Jason Statham from the twenty fifteen

2013
01:39:12,452 --> 01:39:13,372
Speaker 2: comedy Spy.

2014
01:39:13,612 --> 01:39:15,013
Speaker 3: Such a good movie.

2015
01:39:14,812 --> 01:39:18,333
Speaker 2: Jason Statham, great man. Just blast out the same movie

2016
01:39:18,333 --> 01:39:20,933
Speaker 2: over and over again, and I'm there for it. Beekeeper

2017
01:39:21,053 --> 01:39:24,412
Speaker 2: was fantastic working Man. It's all the same movie. Always

2018
01:39:24,492 --> 01:39:30,013
Speaker 2: sales The Transporters. Yeah, great crank movies, Meg one, Meg two,

2019
01:39:30,133 --> 01:39:30,452
Speaker 2: not so.

2020
01:39:30,492 --> 01:39:33,572
Speaker 3: Good, The working Man the latest one, fantastic actor. But

2021
01:39:33,612 --> 01:39:36,132
Speaker 3: we are talking about what has been called the Jason

2022
01:39:36,213 --> 01:39:41,772
Speaker 3: Statham effects. So Jason Statham's KEYW Crib sold for twenty

2023
01:39:41,812 --> 01:39:44,213
Speaker 3: eight million dollars as part of a fifty six million

2024
01:39:44,213 --> 01:39:46,852
Speaker 3: dollar deal. That's all the owners of two very expensive

2025
01:39:46,853 --> 01:39:50,893
Speaker 3: Auckland Home swap keys and suburbs. So this four bedroom

2026
01:39:51,053 --> 01:39:55,732
Speaker 3: trophy home in Auckland, which Statham famously rented while he

2027
01:39:55,853 --> 01:39:58,692
Speaker 3: was filming The Meaghan Auckland was built by rich lista

2028
01:39:58,732 --> 01:40:02,253
Speaker 3: Sharon Hunter and former Totonga mere tenB Palce. So twenty

2029
01:40:02,253 --> 01:40:04,772
Speaker 3: eight million dollars. It is a heck of a lot

2030
01:40:04,812 --> 01:40:07,372
Speaker 3: of money. And they are putting some of that twenty

2031
01:40:07,412 --> 01:40:10,372
Speaker 3: eight million dollars because went above expectations, down to the

2032
01:40:10,412 --> 01:40:14,772
Speaker 3: fact that Jason Statham, Hollywood superstar action hero rented out

2033
01:40:14,812 --> 01:40:17,372
Speaker 3: that property for a long time while he was filming

2034
01:40:17,412 --> 01:40:17,652
Speaker 3: The Meg.

2035
01:40:17,772 --> 01:40:20,093
Speaker 2: I mean, how much more you pay because Statham's been

2036
01:40:20,133 --> 01:40:21,972
Speaker 2: in there. I mean, I love Statham and I've talked

2037
01:40:22,013 --> 01:40:24,932
Speaker 2: to people that work with them on The Meg here

2038
01:40:24,933 --> 01:40:26,612
Speaker 2: in New Zealand and said he was a great man,

2039
01:40:27,213 --> 01:40:31,652
Speaker 2: lovely guy, always paid for drinks, fantastic human being. And

2040
01:40:32,173 --> 01:40:36,253
Speaker 2: look he's pretty famous. Yeah, but you'd say he's he's

2041
01:40:36,372 --> 01:40:39,612
Speaker 2: a he's an A list actor in a way, but

2042
01:40:39,652 --> 01:40:42,053
Speaker 2: he's got a real super balist vibe about him.

2043
01:40:42,093 --> 01:40:43,093
Speaker 3: He certainly does.

2044
01:40:43,093 --> 01:40:45,772
Speaker 2: This movie is just keep getting being successful. The bee

2045
01:40:45,853 --> 01:40:48,612
Speaker 2: Keeper was massive. Operation Fortune was another film I watched

2046
01:40:48,612 --> 01:40:51,972
Speaker 2: with him. Recently Wrath of Man. They just keep they

2047
01:40:52,053 --> 01:40:55,213
Speaker 2: just keep coming. Jason Stathan being Jason Statham. But that's

2048
01:40:55,253 --> 01:40:57,293
Speaker 2: not the issue. I'll get bogged down and Jason Statham

2049
01:40:57,372 --> 01:40:58,932
Speaker 2: chat if I'm not careful because I'm a big fan.

2050
01:40:59,492 --> 01:41:01,612
Speaker 3: But just to you, just to your question, how much

2051
01:41:01,652 --> 01:41:05,452
Speaker 3: would you pay extra because Jason Statham stayed in a house?

2052
01:41:05,532 --> 01:41:07,772
Speaker 3: I'd probably put an extra twenty k on on my offer,

2053
01:41:07,853 --> 01:41:08,333
Speaker 3: would you?

2054
01:41:08,412 --> 01:41:08,612
Speaker 20: Yeah?

2055
01:41:08,652 --> 01:41:10,772
Speaker 3: I reckon about twenty k could be would be about

2056
01:41:10,772 --> 01:41:12,572
Speaker 3: my Jesus was whatever?

2057
01:41:12,652 --> 01:41:16,133
Speaker 2: Twenty eight million minus twenty k was about twenty k

2058
01:41:16,213 --> 01:41:19,692
Speaker 2: on there. But it does its interesting. So if you're

2059
01:41:19,732 --> 01:41:23,253
Speaker 2: buying a house, does it interest you that the history

2060
01:41:23,293 --> 01:41:27,053
Speaker 2: of the house and if there's been someone spectacular that's

2061
01:41:27,093 --> 01:41:33,652
Speaker 2: owned it. Yeah, if there's someone spectacular, someone bad that's

2062
01:41:33,652 --> 01:41:36,093
Speaker 2: owned it, or some amazing event that's happened to it,

2063
01:41:37,093 --> 01:41:39,572
Speaker 2: has that led you? Has that led you to made

2064
01:41:39,572 --> 01:41:41,892
Speaker 2: you more excited about buying the house? Eight hundred eighty

2065
01:41:41,933 --> 01:41:44,213
Speaker 2: ten eighty Have you got an amazing story from your house?

2066
01:41:44,372 --> 01:41:46,052
Speaker 3: There'd be a lot of people out there that would

2067
01:41:46,053 --> 01:41:48,732
Speaker 3: have bought properties that were owned by very famous and

2068
01:41:48,772 --> 01:41:51,612
Speaker 3: maybe not just New Zealanders, very famous people that own

2069
01:41:51,692 --> 01:41:54,053
Speaker 3: that house before you, and I'd love to hear from

2070
01:41:54,053 --> 01:41:56,133
Speaker 3: you on one hundred eighty ten eighty. And you're right,

2071
01:41:56,293 --> 01:41:59,213
Speaker 3: Infamous is probably a bit of word because maybe they

2072
01:41:59,253 --> 01:42:02,892
Speaker 3: weren't such good people. Maybe they did something that has

2073
01:42:02,933 --> 01:42:05,492
Speaker 3: gone down in the annals of history is very bad

2074
01:42:05,532 --> 01:42:05,732
Speaker 3: for this.

2075
01:42:05,853 --> 01:42:07,692
Speaker 2: I was staying in the house the other day in

2076
01:42:08,452 --> 01:42:11,093
Speaker 2: Edston and they were like, Sir Keith Holyoaks dayed the

2077
01:42:11,173 --> 01:42:13,732
Speaker 2: night in that room. Wow, yeah, that is huge, And

2078
01:42:13,772 --> 01:42:16,572
Speaker 2: I was like, how do I feel about that? And

2079
01:42:17,053 --> 01:42:19,053
Speaker 2: what I found interesting was this two single beds, so

2080
01:42:19,333 --> 01:42:22,333
Speaker 2: mister and missus Holyoak went sleeping in the same bed.

2081
01:42:22,412 --> 01:42:22,652
Speaker 3: Wow.

2082
01:42:22,772 --> 01:42:25,093
Speaker 2: Okay, So looking into that, I mean, would you pay

2083
01:42:25,093 --> 01:42:29,293
Speaker 2: more for a house because Sir Keith Holyoak has looked

2084
01:42:29,293 --> 01:42:29,572
Speaker 2: in it?

2085
01:42:29,692 --> 01:42:31,093
Speaker 3: Did you ended up staying in that room?

2086
01:42:31,532 --> 01:42:34,333
Speaker 2: I didn't get given the holy Oak, Holyoaks, Holy Oaks

2087
01:42:34,333 --> 01:42:36,973
Speaker 2: sweet rude. I didn't get given it. Yeah. But I

2088
01:42:37,053 --> 01:42:41,572
Speaker 2: had some friends that had a stretch zephyr, a stretch

2089
01:42:41,732 --> 01:42:43,692
Speaker 2: zephyr that they said the Queen had been in and

2090
01:42:43,732 --> 01:42:45,412
Speaker 2: they paid extra for it because the queen had been

2091
01:42:45,452 --> 01:42:46,532
Speaker 2: driven around dneat and in it.

2092
01:42:46,692 --> 01:42:48,892
Speaker 3: That is cool, that is very cool. How much extra

2093
01:42:48,933 --> 01:42:49,572
Speaker 3: did they pay for it?

2094
01:42:49,772 --> 01:42:51,013
Speaker 2: Got no idea. I was a kid at the time

2095
01:42:51,013 --> 01:42:52,572
Speaker 2: when they told me. But I remember sitting in the

2096
01:42:52,612 --> 01:42:54,772
Speaker 2: back seat and going, Wow, the queen has been in here.

2097
01:42:55,253 --> 01:42:57,133
Speaker 2: That is huge, and so that was quite quite big

2098
01:42:57,253 --> 01:42:59,133
Speaker 2: big for me. Yeah, I wait, one hundred and eighty

2099
01:42:59,173 --> 01:43:01,253
Speaker 2: ten eighty. I once slept in the same bed as

2100
01:43:01,293 --> 01:43:03,692
Speaker 2: Kate Middleton, did you She wasn't in it at the time,

2101
01:43:04,013 --> 01:43:06,053
Speaker 2: That's unfortunate, but it was the same bed that she

2102
01:43:06,093 --> 01:43:06,852
Speaker 2: had recently slept in.

2103
01:43:06,933 --> 01:43:10,093
Speaker 3: Whereabouse was it? Whereabouts was this bed?

2104
01:43:10,173 --> 01:43:13,133
Speaker 2: Wasn't I snuck into the palace? Okay, No, no, it

2105
01:43:13,173 --> 01:43:16,333
Speaker 2: was in. It was in, It was in Where was

2106
01:43:16,372 --> 01:43:17,692
Speaker 2: it was in? Wisport?

2107
01:43:17,893 --> 01:43:18,333
Speaker 30: Yeah?

2108
01:43:18,532 --> 01:43:19,012
Speaker 3: Good bed?

2109
01:43:19,253 --> 01:43:19,812
Speaker 2: No it wasn't.

2110
01:43:20,173 --> 01:43:23,612
Speaker 3: Good hotel right, greymouth hiker, tacker, hoker taker.

2111
01:43:23,853 --> 01:43:24,932
Speaker 2: Take a beach front hotel?

2112
01:43:26,213 --> 01:43:26,372
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2113
01:43:26,372 --> 01:43:28,892
Speaker 2: Anyway, was it? Was it a queen the bed?

2114
01:43:29,013 --> 01:43:29,213
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2115
01:43:29,412 --> 01:43:31,492
Speaker 2: No, it was she was a princess. Damn it I

2116
01:43:31,532 --> 01:43:34,213
Speaker 2: missed that joke? Was it a quick she's a princes?

2117
01:43:34,333 --> 01:43:34,492
Speaker 30: Yeah?

2118
01:43:34,572 --> 01:43:37,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good right. Anyway, we want to hear from

2119
01:43:37,612 --> 01:43:39,932
Speaker 3: you if your house is as a story. Oh, eight

2120
01:43:40,053 --> 01:43:42,812
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call love

2121
01:43:42,853 --> 01:43:44,333
Speaker 3: to hear from you. If it's a bit of a

2122
01:43:44,372 --> 01:43:46,692
Speaker 3: talking point, we want to hear about it. Twenty two

2123
01:43:46,732 --> 01:43:47,013
Speaker 3: to four.

2124
01:43:47,013 --> 01:43:49,093
Speaker 2: I can't believe I missed that game, mister, damn it.

2125
01:43:49,692 --> 01:43:50,892
Speaker 2: I won't be able sleep till I think.

2126
01:43:50,812 --> 01:43:55,653
Speaker 1: About the big stories, the big issues, the big trends

2127
01:43:55,692 --> 01:43:59,452
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

2128
01:43:59,692 --> 01:44:00,133
Speaker 1: used talk.

2129
01:44:00,173 --> 01:44:02,612
Speaker 3: Sa'd be afternoon. The phone lines are blowing up. Have

2130
01:44:02,772 --> 01:44:04,452
Speaker 3: you got a house with a bit of a history,

2131
01:44:04,492 --> 01:44:06,293
Speaker 3: but of a story to tell.

2132
01:44:06,372 --> 01:44:08,293
Speaker 2: The state of effect they're calling it? Hey, guys, I

2133
01:44:08,452 --> 01:44:11,452
Speaker 2: live in Moray. Brad Pitt flew over our house and

2134
01:44:11,532 --> 01:44:13,972
Speaker 2: a helicopter. Does that increase the value of our house?

2135
01:44:14,853 --> 01:44:15,013
Speaker 20: Yeah?

2136
01:44:15,053 --> 01:44:16,732
Speaker 2: I mean does the counseil know about that? The cancel

2137
01:44:17,412 --> 01:44:20,772
Speaker 2: evaluations have just come out. Yeah, if Brad Pitt's flowing

2138
01:44:20,772 --> 01:44:22,492
Speaker 2: over the top, you won't be down by nine percent.

2139
01:44:22,532 --> 01:44:23,972
Speaker 2: Your rates will still be at the same level.

2140
01:44:24,093 --> 01:44:26,253
Speaker 3: Cutching to you what I've got to say.

2141
01:44:26,253 --> 01:44:29,893
Speaker 2: Mirwaie, I should say not mervo as I said.

2142
01:44:30,933 --> 01:44:33,612
Speaker 3: Judith, you've got a famous connection to a house.

2143
01:44:35,013 --> 01:44:38,692
Speaker 29: Yes, well it is famous, but I've forgotten the name

2144
01:44:39,093 --> 01:44:44,932
Speaker 29: right Well, no, no, it is the famous cricketer.

2145
01:44:45,452 --> 01:44:48,572
Speaker 2: Okay, describe the cricketer, see if we can pick them.

2146
01:44:49,053 --> 01:44:57,293
Speaker 29: No, no, no, goal of a primary in Stoke Nelson.

2147
01:44:57,732 --> 01:44:57,972
Speaker 3: Yep.

2148
01:44:59,652 --> 01:45:04,492
Speaker 29: Okay. So I owned the property for eighteen years and

2149
01:45:04,652 --> 01:45:10,013
Speaker 29: after I brought it the I who owned it, and

2150
01:45:10,053 --> 01:45:13,812
Speaker 29: he brought a property behind me. He went by the

2151
01:45:13,893 --> 01:45:17,452
Speaker 29: way that was the birthpay place of this cricketer.

2152
01:45:18,213 --> 01:45:21,772
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, no, no, no, we need to know the

2153
01:45:21,893 --> 01:45:23,532
Speaker 2: name us. It's not a great story.

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01:45:23,452 --> 01:45:23,652
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:45:23,853 --> 01:45:25,812
Speaker 2: If you don't, if you don't have the name, bless

2156
01:45:25,812 --> 01:45:28,532
Speaker 2: you Judith Judor. But no, no, if you don't have

2157
01:45:28,612 --> 01:45:31,692
Speaker 2: the name of the famous person, it's not a great.

2158
01:45:31,532 --> 01:45:34,012
Speaker 3: I'm trying to google that night now Stoke Nelson cricketer.

2159
01:45:34,053 --> 01:45:35,293
Speaker 2: But welcome to the show.

2160
01:45:36,452 --> 01:45:37,612
Speaker 16: Hey, boys, how you doing?

2161
01:45:38,093 --> 01:45:38,492
Speaker 2: Very good?

2162
01:45:38,532 --> 01:45:40,293
Speaker 5: Greg good.

2163
01:45:40,652 --> 01:45:43,892
Speaker 16: I've got two words for you if you can identify.

2164
01:45:43,333 --> 01:45:52,052
Speaker 3: The police, right okay, freak freak off, freak off, freak off.

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01:45:52,093 --> 01:45:52,892
Speaker 3: Did I get that right?

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01:45:53,933 --> 01:45:54,133
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2167
01:45:54,213 --> 01:45:58,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the words freak off. DIT's have a freak off? Oh,

2168
01:45:58,253 --> 01:46:00,372
Speaker 3: freak off, get your freaking off.

2169
01:46:00,853 --> 01:46:03,132
Speaker 16: Come on, in the news, it's in the news.

2170
01:46:03,213 --> 01:46:06,092
Speaker 2: Come on, what's in the news at the moment.

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01:46:06,293 --> 01:46:08,412
Speaker 3: It's hey on a didy party.

2172
01:46:09,532 --> 01:46:13,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, he stayed next to the famous place for the

2173
01:46:13,933 --> 01:46:16,333
Speaker 2: dody potties exactly right.

2174
01:46:16,452 --> 01:46:19,213
Speaker 16: So you know, if I was buying that one, Tyler,

2175
01:46:20,093 --> 01:46:22,452
Speaker 16: not only would I take twenty grand off, but I'd

2176
01:46:22,452 --> 01:46:23,972
Speaker 16: probably change all the toilet seat.

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01:46:25,732 --> 01:46:28,132
Speaker 2: They definitely want to check that the cameras went store operation.

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01:46:29,293 --> 01:46:31,133
Speaker 16: I don't think you could get that place clean with

2179
01:46:31,173 --> 01:46:32,692
Speaker 16: a full met cleansing man.

2180
01:46:33,093 --> 01:46:35,732
Speaker 2: The amount of uh lubricant that they took out of that.

2181
01:46:35,812 --> 01:46:38,972
Speaker 3: House, Matt, you know you had to take it there, Matt,

2182
01:46:39,173 --> 01:46:41,253
Speaker 3: really exhibit It's.

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01:46:43,532 --> 01:46:46,053
Speaker 16: I traveled in different circles back in the day, and

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01:46:46,133 --> 01:46:48,612
Speaker 16: I stayed next door to it, not there. I hadn't

2185
01:46:48,612 --> 01:46:50,333
Speaker 16: been to a party over there or anything. I've met

2186
01:46:50,372 --> 01:46:52,412
Speaker 16: him actually a couple of times socially.

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01:46:53,053 --> 01:46:55,692
Speaker 2: Socially, yeah, especially and he never invited you to a

2188
01:46:55,692 --> 01:46:57,253
Speaker 2: dooty partty to a frequently.

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01:46:57,652 --> 01:47:01,612
Speaker 16: I no, no, you know, really different circles, different crowds,

2190
01:47:01,612 --> 01:47:02,333
Speaker 16: that type of thing.

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01:47:02,372 --> 01:47:02,572
Speaker 24: You know.

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01:47:02,812 --> 01:47:07,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are both the list, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2193
01:47:07,452 --> 01:47:10,052
Speaker 3: as a egg, if you were called to the witness stand,

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01:47:10,173 --> 01:47:12,732
Speaker 3: you know is is he did he do it?

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01:47:13,652 --> 01:47:16,813
Speaker 16: I signed nothing.

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01:47:16,973 --> 01:47:17,772
Speaker 3: You're a good neighbor.

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01:47:17,812 --> 01:47:20,293
Speaker 2: You saw nothing from next door. You didn't see Russell

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01:47:20,412 --> 01:47:23,772
Speaker 2: Brand or Jonah Hill or Austin Kutscher or Debbie Moore

2199
01:47:24,532 --> 01:47:28,692
Speaker 2: or Amber Rose heading in there? Who else was in

2200
01:47:28,732 --> 01:47:30,532
Speaker 2: the Alenix Lewis was there at some point? Wasn't here?

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01:47:30,572 --> 01:47:30,852
Speaker 30: Mary J.

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01:47:30,973 --> 01:47:33,892
Speaker 2: Blige apparently Reytha Franklin was partying in one of those

2203
01:47:33,893 --> 01:47:34,972
Speaker 2: Diddy parties at one point.

2204
01:47:35,013 --> 01:47:37,133
Speaker 3: Wow, she was going hard in later life.

2205
01:47:37,333 --> 01:47:40,412
Speaker 2: R E s p et scene. I can't even spell respect.

2206
01:47:40,732 --> 01:47:43,932
Speaker 2: All right, that's a great one, Michael, Welcome to the show.

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01:47:44,732 --> 01:47:46,372
Speaker 28: Yeah, hey boys, this is a bit of a freaky

2208
01:47:46,372 --> 01:47:49,053
Speaker 28: one for you. So I own more Sure demolition and

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01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:52,492
Speaker 28: we demolished a house about fifteen years ago. I was

2210
01:47:52,532 --> 01:47:54,612
Speaker 28: going to tell you the suburbs, but I won't now

2211
01:47:54,772 --> 01:47:57,972
Speaker 28: it was up here in Auckland. So we didn't have accidents.

2212
01:47:58,013 --> 01:48:01,092
Speaker 28: You know, we've been doing demolition for years and every

2213
01:48:01,133 --> 01:48:04,612
Speaker 28: single staff member had an accident, including quite a bad cut.

2214
01:48:05,293 --> 01:48:06,253
Speaker 3: Fatada spooky.

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01:48:06,572 --> 01:48:08,892
Speaker 28: He finished the demolition and an old boy came past

2216
01:48:08,933 --> 01:48:11,133
Speaker 28: and said, of you know, that house is gone. It's

2217
01:48:11,133 --> 01:48:15,173
Speaker 28: got a history. Somebody was murdered there, and I went back.

2218
01:48:15,893 --> 01:48:18,772
Speaker 28: Us happened to go back and went past it. After

2219
01:48:18,893 --> 01:48:22,492
Speaker 28: cyclone Gabriel and the house the new house that was

2220
01:48:22,492 --> 01:48:26,253
Speaker 28: built was destroyed by the cliff based chop on the house.

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01:48:27,093 --> 01:48:27,333
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:48:27,412 --> 01:48:32,652
Speaker 28: Wow, So so yeah, the four odd house. Man's something

2223
01:48:32,893 --> 01:48:34,932
Speaker 28: really pretty scary about that side.

2224
01:48:35,452 --> 01:48:37,093
Speaker 5: You've been rebuilt.

2225
01:48:36,732 --> 01:48:38,412
Speaker 2: Again, You've got it. What was so what was the

2226
01:48:38,572 --> 01:48:41,452
Speaker 2: what was the actual situation in the house before that

2227
01:48:41,532 --> 01:48:43,892
Speaker 2: makes you think that led to these injuries? And then

2228
01:48:43,933 --> 01:48:44,893
Speaker 2: it pink destroyed.

2229
01:48:46,253 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 28: Look, you know, we demolished a lot of houses and

2230
01:48:49,492 --> 01:48:51,173
Speaker 28: you go through them and some give you good vibes

2231
01:48:51,213 --> 01:48:53,053
Speaker 28: and some give you bad vibes. But this house gave

2232
01:48:53,093 --> 01:48:55,972
Speaker 28: us some bad vibes right from the word go. I said,

2233
01:48:55,973 --> 01:48:58,093
Speaker 28: every single staff member had an accident, and we did

2234
01:48:58,133 --> 01:48:58,932
Speaker 28: not have accidents.

2235
01:48:59,053 --> 01:49:02,253
Speaker 3: That is spooky. So, Michael, you didn't actually know what

2236
01:49:02,293 --> 01:49:04,973
Speaker 3: happened there. You suspect there was something nefurious that went on,

2237
01:49:05,053 --> 01:49:05,692
Speaker 3: but you're not sure.

2238
01:49:06,612 --> 01:49:08,612
Speaker 28: Oh an old boy went past and said you said

2239
01:49:08,612 --> 01:49:09,933
Speaker 28: to us and said, oh, somebody was murdered in the

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01:49:09,973 --> 01:49:12,013
Speaker 28: house years and years ago, and they kind of all

2241
01:49:12,093 --> 01:49:14,013
Speaker 28: kind of came into place. But yeah, it was a

2242
01:49:14,053 --> 01:49:15,012
Speaker 28: pretty freaky job.

2243
01:49:15,013 --> 01:49:18,293
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the exorcist, doesn't it. Yeah, Michael, thank

2244
01:49:18,333 --> 01:49:19,333
Speaker 3: you very much for your call.

2245
01:49:19,412 --> 01:49:19,732
Speaker 2: Michael.

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01:49:21,293 --> 01:49:23,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, bad, bad, jujo of the house.

2247
01:49:23,253 --> 01:49:25,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's not the Statham effect though, is it.

2248
01:49:26,093 --> 01:49:26,333
Speaker 30: Yeah?

2249
01:49:26,492 --> 01:49:27,892
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you'd pay any more for that,

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01:49:27,933 --> 01:49:28,293
Speaker 3: would you?

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01:49:28,532 --> 01:49:32,412
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean when Statham stayed at your house, it

2252
01:49:32,452 --> 01:49:35,972
Speaker 2: doesn't cause injuries for demolition people or caused the house

2253
01:49:35,973 --> 01:49:38,013
Speaker 2: to fall down, you know, as far as I know.

2254
01:49:38,173 --> 01:49:43,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, Beverly, Hi, guys, how are you very good?

2255
01:49:46,013 --> 01:49:46,452
Speaker 15: Okay?

2256
01:49:46,572 --> 01:49:47,892
Speaker 27: Oh do you want my story please?

2257
01:49:47,973 --> 01:49:48,173
Speaker 3: Hell?

2258
01:49:48,253 --> 01:49:48,492
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2259
01:49:49,492 --> 01:49:49,852
Speaker 5: Okay.

2260
01:49:49,973 --> 01:49:53,532
Speaker 15: About twenty five years ago we sold a house in

2261
01:49:53,732 --> 01:49:56,452
Speaker 15: roal Matty, which is down sort of round power Friends,

2262
01:49:56,492 --> 01:50:00,093
Speaker 15: north of Orlington. And after we'd sold the house a

2263
01:50:00,133 --> 01:50:02,253
Speaker 15: couple of weeks stay so that new owners wrang us

2264
01:50:02,372 --> 01:50:06,012
Speaker 15: up and said I've left a briefcase behind and found

2265
01:50:06,013 --> 01:50:09,532
Speaker 15: it under some something in the water. Anyway, so they

2266
01:50:09,572 --> 01:50:11,932
Speaker 15: said come back and you know, collect it. And they

2267
01:50:11,973 --> 01:50:15,692
Speaker 15: invited me into the house. And when I walked into

2268
01:50:15,732 --> 01:50:18,892
Speaker 15: the lounge, the first thing I noticed was a bast

2269
01:50:19,692 --> 01:50:22,133
Speaker 15: sitting on one of the shelves.

2270
01:50:21,933 --> 01:50:24,812
Speaker 11: Award a batht award.

2271
01:50:24,933 --> 01:50:27,452
Speaker 15: And I noticed that and I said, is that real?

2272
01:50:27,532 --> 01:50:29,492
Speaker 15: And they said, oh yes, yes, it's very well and

2273
01:50:29,532 --> 01:50:32,333
Speaker 15: they let me hold it. It was really heavy, it

2274
01:50:32,412 --> 01:50:35,532
Speaker 15: was extremely heavy, so of course I asked, you know,

2275
01:50:35,652 --> 01:50:37,372
Speaker 15: how did you written the Beafter Award? And they said, well,

2276
01:50:37,372 --> 01:50:40,932
Speaker 15: it wasn't actually us. Our son who was? His name

2277
01:50:41,013 --> 01:50:46,012
Speaker 15: is Andrew Nicholl. He wrote The Truman Show Jim Carrey.

2278
01:50:46,412 --> 01:50:48,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, very famous Andrew Nicchol.

2279
01:50:48,732 --> 01:50:52,173
Speaker 15: Yes, yes, yeah, his parents bought our house.

2280
01:50:52,692 --> 01:50:55,652
Speaker 2: He was a New Zealand screenwriter, wasn't he Andrew Nicchol?

2281
01:50:55,772 --> 01:50:57,093
Speaker 2: That's right, Yes he was.

2282
01:50:57,612 --> 01:50:57,812
Speaker 32: Yeah.

2283
01:50:57,853 --> 01:51:00,852
Speaker 2: And he also wrote Gaddagher, which is a movie I enjoy.

2284
01:51:00,893 --> 01:51:03,293
Speaker 2: And he's written quite a few movies, isn't he? How good?

2285
01:51:03,492 --> 01:51:03,972
Speaker 3: How cool?

2286
01:51:04,452 --> 01:51:04,812
Speaker 15: Yes?

2287
01:51:05,093 --> 01:51:09,732
Speaker 2: So he thought he won that that bafter for yeah,

2288
01:51:09,772 --> 01:51:12,492
Speaker 2: for that for the Best Original Screenplay.

2289
01:51:13,053 --> 01:51:16,853
Speaker 15: Of the Truman Show. Yes, gifted to his parents.

2290
01:51:17,492 --> 01:51:19,013
Speaker 2: Right, So do you think that do you think the

2291
01:51:19,093 --> 01:51:21,173
Speaker 2: value of that house should go up because it's had

2292
01:51:21,173 --> 01:51:24,293
Speaker 2: a baster award running screen right, especially a great movie

2293
01:51:24,333 --> 01:51:25,093
Speaker 2: like the Truman Show.

2294
01:51:26,053 --> 01:51:27,852
Speaker 15: Oh, I know, maybe we should have. They just should

2295
01:51:27,853 --> 01:51:32,692
Speaker 15: have disclosed that, and I'm putting them their offer. We

2296
01:51:32,893 --> 01:51:34,333
Speaker 15: could have got more for the place.

2297
01:51:35,213 --> 01:51:37,333
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool getting to hold it as well, Beverly.

2298
01:51:37,412 --> 01:51:39,053
Speaker 3: You know, not too many people get to do that.

2299
01:51:40,253 --> 01:51:42,612
Speaker 15: No, No, and I was quite surprised. It's just the

2300
01:51:42,893 --> 01:51:44,932
Speaker 15: weight of the thing. It was really heavy.

2301
01:51:45,412 --> 01:51:45,612
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2302
01:51:46,253 --> 01:51:48,492
Speaker 2: He also wrote The Terminal, which was at that Tom

2303
01:51:48,532 --> 01:51:50,692
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks Steven Spielberg movie as well.

2304
01:51:51,293 --> 01:51:55,333
Speaker 15: So I've got another quick story about about Tom Hanks.

2305
01:51:55,452 --> 01:51:59,293
Speaker 15: Very very quickly. My husband, who was an airline pilot

2306
01:51:59,293 --> 01:52:02,572
Speaker 15: for a New Zealand, was in New York just recently

2307
01:52:03,253 --> 01:52:06,173
Speaker 15: and met Sully.

2308
01:52:06,732 --> 01:52:10,772
Speaker 2: Met who Sully, the real Sully, the s.

2309
01:52:14,692 --> 01:52:15,532
Speaker 15: In the Hudson River.

2310
01:52:15,692 --> 01:52:16,852
Speaker 3: Yes, and how was he was he?

2311
01:52:16,893 --> 01:52:17,053
Speaker 23: Call?

2312
01:52:18,213 --> 01:52:24,213
Speaker 15: He Glen said. He was extremely gentle and polite and

2313
01:52:24,333 --> 01:52:25,812
Speaker 15: quiet in his demeanor.

2314
01:52:26,372 --> 01:52:29,772
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. It's so interesting Sully because he's been

2315
01:52:29,812 --> 01:52:33,492
Speaker 2: played by Tom Hanks. You kind of when you think

2316
01:52:33,532 --> 01:52:36,532
Speaker 2: of Sully now and then the Sully movie, when you

2317
01:52:36,572 --> 01:52:39,012
Speaker 2: think of the face of Sully, you think of Tom Henck.

2318
01:52:39,053 --> 01:52:40,132
Speaker 15: Think of Tom Henks.

2319
01:52:41,093 --> 01:52:43,013
Speaker 2: So who was it that met Sully? Was it your son?

2320
01:52:43,053 --> 01:52:43,532
Speaker 2: Did you say?

2321
01:52:44,492 --> 01:52:45,213
Speaker 15: No, my husband?

2322
01:52:45,333 --> 01:52:48,092
Speaker 2: Your husband? So he recognized but he recognized the real Sully.

2323
01:52:49,532 --> 01:52:53,812
Speaker 15: No, he didn't actually recognize that. A lady that Sally's

2324
01:52:53,853 --> 01:52:57,612
Speaker 15: wife recognized the pilot because my husband's a pilot. And

2325
01:52:57,652 --> 01:52:59,692
Speaker 15: they went up to the pilots because they were taking

2326
01:52:59,692 --> 01:53:01,692
Speaker 15: the there was four of them, and they him and

2327
01:53:01,732 --> 01:53:03,652
Speaker 15: his wife were talking and saying, oh, they must be

2328
01:53:03,652 --> 01:53:06,692
Speaker 15: going Long Hall because there's four pilots. Wonder where they're going.

2329
01:53:06,973 --> 01:53:10,052
Speaker 15: And so they approached my husband, where are you guys

2330
01:53:10,053 --> 01:53:12,932
Speaker 15: heading off to? And then the conversation started from there

2331
01:53:13,253 --> 01:53:19,652
Speaker 15: and my husband was like, sorry, you are Sully? I

2332
01:53:19,692 --> 01:53:22,933
Speaker 15: am he They had a conversation.

2333
01:53:23,492 --> 01:53:25,133
Speaker 2: How good it's good good to hear that he was

2334
01:53:25,133 --> 01:53:26,692
Speaker 2: a good guy, Sually, I'll be terrible to hear that

2335
01:53:26,732 --> 01:53:30,333
Speaker 2: he was any. The miracle on the on the Hudson

2336
01:53:31,412 --> 01:53:34,812
Speaker 2: in that in that movie was that Sully was not gray.

2337
01:53:35,412 --> 01:53:37,892
Speaker 2: He had had dark hair right through and still to

2338
01:53:37,933 --> 01:53:41,972
Speaker 2: this day. But for some reason, for some reason, Tom

2339
01:53:42,013 --> 01:53:45,052
Speaker 2: Hanks decided to run with a gray hair to be Sully.

2340
01:53:45,213 --> 01:53:46,093
Speaker 3: It worked for him, didn't that.

2341
01:53:46,372 --> 01:53:48,253
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know why, but that that

2342
01:53:48,333 --> 01:53:51,293
Speaker 2: reminds me of you know the statue of William Wallace

2343
01:53:51,412 --> 01:53:54,172
Speaker 2: that was erected in Scotland, but it was a statue

2344
01:53:54,213 --> 01:53:58,532
Speaker 2: of mel Gibson and William Wallace. Yeah, I mean he

2345
01:53:58,532 --> 01:54:01,492
Speaker 2: played the Hell if the movie's famous enough, then your

2346
01:54:01,652 --> 01:54:04,452
Speaker 2: your face will be replaced in history by the actor

2347
01:54:04,452 --> 01:54:05,013
Speaker 2: that plays you.

2348
01:54:06,013 --> 01:54:07,812
Speaker 3: Right, That is where we'll leave it, I think, but

2349
01:54:07,893 --> 01:54:10,213
Speaker 3: think he's so much some great texts coming through. We're

2350
01:54:10,213 --> 01:54:11,692
Speaker 3: gonna have to bring this up another day because so

2351
01:54:11,692 --> 01:54:14,053
Speaker 3: many people wanted to have a chat, but we've got

2352
01:54:14,053 --> 01:54:14,892
Speaker 3: to play some messages.

2353
01:54:14,933 --> 01:54:20,893
Speaker 1: It is eight to four, the big stories, the big issues,

2354
01:54:21,053 --> 01:54:24,253
Speaker 1: the big trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and

2355
01:54:24,293 --> 01:54:28,372
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons used Talks, EDB, News Talks, EDB.

2356
01:54:28,933 --> 01:54:32,373
Speaker 3: Couple of texts on this One's been a great discussion.

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01:54:31,933 --> 01:54:34,253
Speaker 2: In the UK. The then Prince Charles came round to

2358
01:54:34,293 --> 01:54:36,493
Speaker 2: our house. He rode his horse on my father's land

2359
01:54:36,533 --> 01:54:39,333
Speaker 2: and chose our house as it had an enclosed yard.

2360
01:54:39,333 --> 01:54:41,493
Speaker 2: He stayed for a couple of hours, got changed in

2361
01:54:41,493 --> 01:54:43,413
Speaker 2: one of the bedrooms, had a glass of whiskey with

2362
01:54:43,453 --> 01:54:47,253
Speaker 2: my mother, and then went on his way. Good do

2363
01:54:47,333 --> 01:54:49,253
Speaker 2: you go see that would increase the valley of your house.

2364
01:54:49,253 --> 01:54:52,573
Speaker 2: If Prince Charles's pested around with him whiskey coming around

2365
01:54:52,573 --> 01:54:54,653
Speaker 2: with his horse, that's got to have the Jason stath

2366
01:54:54,733 --> 01:54:55,693
Speaker 2: And effect on your house.

2367
01:54:56,053 --> 01:54:58,173
Speaker 3: And this one says guys lived over the back fence

2368
01:54:58,173 --> 01:55:01,253
Speaker 3: from Jeff Wilson family while he lived there, and in

2369
01:55:01,373 --> 01:55:03,253
Speaker 3: the cargo he was an all black at the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm about the same age as him. Older female friends

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Speaker 3: wanted me to jump the fence and steal his underwear.

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Speaker 3: That thought grossed me out, did it anyway? Well, Goldie's underwear.

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Speaker 3: That's worth something I made up there last part. She

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Speaker 3: didn't still the underwear.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay. So I worked for Andrew Nicol at an

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Speaker 2: ad agency in the eighties. He snogged me on the

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Speaker 2: way home after a staff bunny. Oh maybe I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: read that one out. Certainly it's very talented New Zealander

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Speaker 2: written some great movies.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely right, that is us for today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you to all your great New Zealanders for

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Speaker 2: listening to the show. Thanks so much for your calls

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Speaker 2: and text. We've had a great time chatting with you.

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Speaker 2: I hope you have too. The met entire Afternoons podcast

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Speaker 2: will be out and about now, So if you missed

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Speaker 2: our chats on the organized crime and corruption in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: or British migrants showing us how to love our country

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Speaker 2: and stop winging, or the Jason Statham Effect, set our

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Speaker 2: podcast to download wherever you get your pods. They saw

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Speaker 2: Sir Paul Holmes broadcast over the year and KFC fan

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Speaker 2: here the dupe to see Allen is up next for

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 30: Tyler?

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Speaker 2: Why am I playing the song?

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Speaker 27: Oh mate?

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Speaker 3: We don't know how lucky we are in this country.

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Speaker 2: There you go, the great friend Egg, There go wherever

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Speaker 2: you are, whatever you're doing until tomorrow, IVO give him

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Speaker 2: my taste that key.

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Speaker 8: We love you.

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Speaker 30: We don't know how lucky we are.

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Speaker 3: We just don't realize how forty we are.

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Speaker 25: We have the other idea of luck because yes, collectively,

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Speaker 25: we just don't know how lucky.

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Speaker 16: We all are.

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Speaker 30: Be full stop.

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