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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealands, and welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number one nine four for Friday, the

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Speaker 2: twenty ninth of August, in the Year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. So really really really interesting chat from

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Speaker 2: cafe owners and how they run their business. And I

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Speaker 2: think after you listen to this, you won't complain about

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Speaker 2: how much you're paying for food or drinks at our

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Speaker 2: hospitality outlets, hospitality outlets across the country because it's tough

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Speaker 2: out there, ladies and.

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, certainly is. Yeah, some great stories there and some

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Speaker 3: great chats about old calorie counting and just a.

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Speaker 2: Warning we'll probably tease talking about autonomous driving coming to

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Speaker 2: New zealand completely autonomous driving from Tesla coming. We didn't

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Speaker 2: get around to that. We couldn't get we couldn't get

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Speaker 2: the Ministry Transport across the line to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Major next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he said, I'll come on at four.

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Speaker 2: We're like, we're off here at four, we're done by

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Speaker 2: for mate. You know that it's no good to me,

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Speaker 2: so maybe we'll get them on Monday to talk about that,

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Speaker 2: because it's interesting. I'm interested in the idea of driver list.

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Speaker 2: Taxis coming to New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So download, subscribe, give us a review.

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Speaker 2: And give a taste kivy. All right, then you've seen basill,

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Speaker 2: let you go.

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Speaker 1: We like the big stories, the league issues, the big

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Speaker 1: trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: The very good afternoon to you. It is Friday. How good.

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Speaker 3: Great to have your company as always. Hope you're having

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Speaker 3: a great day ghetto.

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Speaker 2: Matt, Yeah, thanks for tuning in your great New Zealanders.

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Speaker 2: We've got three hours of fantastic talkback for you. I

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Speaker 2: assume chatting by previous shows have been pretty good. This week,

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Speaker 2: I've had a great time. We rate it now just

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Speaker 2: to go back in time and look here we look

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Speaker 2: til here we go. You know, the New Zealand a week.

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Speaker 2: We have it every Friday. We are just up to

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Speaker 2: three o'clock. We we do New Zealand and I've got

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Speaker 2: to be I've got to be in contention for the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Week. After a fantastic victory today in a

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Speaker 2: Deafitil Day ping pong tournament against you, Tyler, and look

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Speaker 2: text donate to three four nine three to make an

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Speaker 2: out the ANZA donation station live stream on iHeartRadio. But look,

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Speaker 2: we just we were asked to play a ping pong

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Speaker 2: tournament full defitl day, and you came in all cocky.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, I've got brothers. I played a lot of

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Speaker 2: ping pong. You're in trouble, Matt.

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Speaker 3: I got in there early. I eyed you up. When

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Speaker 3: you came in, you weren't looking that confident. To be honest,

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Speaker 3: I've got this, I've got this is going to be

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Speaker 3: an absolute downtrail.

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Speaker 2: Yep. But look, Tyler, what happened.

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Speaker 3: I lost. I lost by a couple of points. So

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Speaker 3: that thing is made a little bit easier that we

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Speaker 3: did it for the good of of Deafitil Day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I'm holding onto that with their life. But yeah, mate,

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, the confidence got to me.

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Speaker 2: I think this was an example and I said it

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Speaker 2: at the time of the better player losing. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: It was moving all around the place. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Lack of skills. I just stuck to meet in two

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Speaker 2: I didn't take a slash of anything outside off stump.

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Speaker 3: So two winners out of that. One is Deafi all

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Speaker 2: Got Andrew Young, CEO of the Kansas Society Auckland and

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Speaker 2: Northland Division, in the show at one.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to having him in for a bit of

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Speaker 3: a chett. He's a good man. Right on to today's

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Speaker 3: show after three o'clock. So this is something happening to

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Speaker 2: Yes, So this morning I was making my breakfast and

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Speaker 2: You know? Do you have you tried it? Does it work?

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Speaker 2: How much olive oil are you using? Because I'm just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of calories and olive oil. To be honest,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can watch the video online. Did they video

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Speaker 3: I could always see Ryan Bridges a bit of a netballer. Actually,

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Speaker 3: he's got the height and a rich advantage. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: gangly though. Right on to two o'clock. So Tesla's self

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Speaker 2: like they have an Arizona, California, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Nevada, Massachusetts, Michigan, Yeah, Washington.

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Speaker 2: They're all coming to those last four in the next month.

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Speaker 2: So how do you feel about that the roads being

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Speaker 2: I've never been in one, but every friend of mine

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Speaker 3: It looks very cool.

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Speaker 2: But what does that mean? For our economy if we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be a great chat after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about the hospow business. So,

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Speaker 3: as we know, there's been a lot of very popular

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we need cafes.

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Speaker 3: We absolutely need cafes.

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Speaker 2: They are you know, they may as I said to

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Speaker 2: and you know, shops and community there is there Definitely

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Speaker 3: to try and support hospitality because, as you're saying, man,

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Speaker 3: we need them. They are the spice of life in

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Speaker 3: what is the answer here? We can't lose them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what are the levers that put them out

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Speaker 2: what were the most challenging expenses that risky business? And

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Speaker 2: if you've been into you tried to open a cafe

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Speaker 2: and you went out of business, what caused it? And

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Speaker 2: is there something can we do? I mean, the first

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean I'm not slamming a lot of drinks,

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you if you're in the hospitality

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Speaker 3: what challenges you faced and what needs to happen. Nine

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Speaker 3: two nine two is the text number. It is fourteen

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. We're talking about the hospitality industry. We

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Speaker 3: all know there's been a raft of closures across the

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Speaker 3: all need to do to support our local cafes and bars.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says cafes charged too much, that's why they

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Speaker 2: go out of business. You can't tell me it costs

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Speaker 2: an economist, I expect. I'm presuming this text is from

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Speaker 3: I don't know that is not from Brad Olson.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this person has ever had a job.

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Speaker 2: Because of course you can make the food cheaper at home,

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Speaker 3: Yep, you know. I mean there's a lot of overheads

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Speaker 2: If someone starts a business, it's a nice place to go.

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Speaker 2: It fulfills the surface, it employs people. At home, you're

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Speaker 2: location exactly. And you know cafes are charging too much.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the other texts are coming

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Speaker 2: it's huge. The six says it's staff. You've got to

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Speaker 3: So if you're listening out there and you run a

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Speaker 3: because that all comes down to why we pay. At

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Speaker 3: But they're not overcharging just because they can. They want

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Speaker 2: But Tyler, Yes, Tyler. If I've got a tea spoon

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Speaker 2: I can make a coffee for less than five point fifty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can read ribbon.

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Speaker 3: Pravina. How are you?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'm good, Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Doing very good? So do you run a cafe yourself?

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Speaker 5: Do you?

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Speaker 7: I'm a chef. I managed, I was managing quite a

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Speaker 4: If you're in Wellington, we'll be there.

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Speaker 7: So Mike is the most He wears his heart on

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Speaker 7: And when he struggles, we bring outside. We bring groups,

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Speaker 7: We invite them to come and support our cafe in Mangarati.

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Speaker 7: And and we I sometimes step in and help him out,

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Speaker 3: You know, you're you're a very good person, Pravena. And

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Speaker 7: He has problems with staffing, right, I mean like stuff.

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Speaker 7: That's the biggest doubt bull for him is the staff

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Speaker 2: I mean that just goes to show that cafes are,

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Speaker 2: If there's a good cafe there, if there's a good

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Speaker 2: will charge what they're not going to charge. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's what the price is.

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Speaker 3: They're not fleecing you for that Chee Scott.

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Speaker 2: If they're very very very busy and doing very well,

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Speaker 2: they're making some kind of fancy stuff, they can put

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Speaker 2: the price up. Yeah, but I don't think that's why

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Speaker 2: most cafes are going out of business because they're charging

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten and eighty. If you're a

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Speaker 3: hear from you. What do you say to that? What

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Speaker 2: I wonder if those two Texas you know, are capable

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Speaker 3: Those people can vote as well. Scary. It's twenty two Pars.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 9: Too in New Zealand, who came to the company results

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Speaker 10: It will happen, I would say to you, just at

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Speaker 10: the moment, it's still pretty hard going. Government passenger numbers

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Speaker 2: But that will change.

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Speaker 10: I'd hope that by now it would be picking up,

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Speaker 2: But it isn't nuch just yet. And you've written off

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Speaker 5: The year, haven't.

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Speaker 2: You can not completely, but you're not. Bullis going to

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Speaker 3: B afternoon twenty five past one. We're talking about hospitality businesses.

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Speaker 3: As we all know, a raft have had to close

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Speaker 3: their doors over the last couple of years. Incredibly challenging

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Speaker 3: out there. So if you're in the game, what are

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Speaker 3: say that you changed too much for your products.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, London. How are you you own

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Thanks man and Tyler Alesha, you're talking some sense and

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Speaker 12: we're not hearing those texts. They have no idea, no

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Speaker 12: idea what it costs to run a cafe. And we're

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Speaker 12: only now we're getting a little bit of a pink angle,

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Speaker 12: a bit of black ink, and that is like just

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Speaker 12: breaking even. And I can't believe when people criticized us.

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Speaker 12: Last week, some elderly couple came in and said four

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Speaker 12: by our jas central heating system, you're being looked after

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Speaker 12: by some fantastic staff that we're proud of, and you're

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Speaker 2: Good on your London here here, Now, what if we

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Speaker 2: because there's no doubt that cafes can be expensive, but

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Speaker 2: So what are the biggest expenses for you London staff?

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Speaker 12: Without a doubt? I mean the theory in the early

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Speaker 12: on a thirty thirty thirty rule. It's now around forty

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Speaker 12: five percent. Some cafes are running on their staff overheads.

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Speaker 12: We're running at thirty seven because the owners are working

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Speaker 12: I mean when the government put in those ten days

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Speaker 12: how many people are sick on a Sunday when they're

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Speaker 12: and they go sick on it, and so you have

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Speaker 12: they have to front of house, they have to run

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Speaker 12: have to be absolutely passionate about representing the brand of

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Speaker 12: the community is very important to us. But it's only

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Speaker 12: If we were to change the cost them a cup

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Speaker 12: of coffee five fifties cheap, guys five fifties cheap, it'll

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Speaker 12: and I'm passionate about the trade.

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Speaker 5: We do.

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Speaker 12: We do would five pizza on Sunday, which is a

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Speaker 12: different part of the market. We do events for people

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Speaker 2: And I guess there's also what the equipment you have

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Speaker 12: Got space, having time a big industrial fridge breaks down

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Speaker 12: And the food safety control plans, you know, there used

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Speaker 12: So another big bill for eight hundred dollars for your

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Speaker 12: food safety plan. So there's all these little knibbets coming in.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and these people know that they can make the

438
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Speaker 2: coffee at home. You'd be using high end coffee. There's

439
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Speaker 2: probably a better way to put this, but high end

440
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Speaker 2: coffee making gear, if you know what I'm saying.

441
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, And of course the coffee has to be good

442
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Speaker 12: because people at those locals that keep coming back to

443
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Speaker 12: your coffee, they know you're doing a good coffee. The

444
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Speaker 12: minute you do a bad brew, we're not cleaning your

445
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Speaker 12: machines properly. It's all bitter and burnt. You won't get

446
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Speaker 12: the people coming back to your coffee, so you've got

447
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Speaker 12: to keep You're only as good as your last coffee,

448
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Speaker 12: so to speak, before you're last. Hey, you have a

449
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Speaker 12: safe drive. Things for coming, and I hope you come

450
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Speaker 12: back again, and did you enjoy your meal, et cetera.

451
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Speaker 3: In London?

452
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Speaker 2: What's your rent like?

453
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Speaker 14: In Balls?

454
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Speaker 12: The rents actually affordable. It's an old bank building. But

455
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Speaker 12: you know the the ndel's listening to this, you might

456
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Speaker 12: think about putting the rent up because we haven't leather

457
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Speaker 12: rent increase for a few years. So when it finally

458
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Speaker 12: starts turning, let's bringing more costs for coming. I can

459
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Speaker 12: guarantee it.

460
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Speaker 2: And what about advertising? Do you have to spend anything

461
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Speaker 2: on that or are you just running a good quality

462
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Speaker 2: service that people will do?

463
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Speaker 12: Your word amounth is obviously important. You've got a big

464
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Speaker 12: customer base called a hockey rear base across the river

465
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Speaker 12: from us. So you think of all the people that

466
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Speaker 12: are talking about the Sunday nights, the pizzas, let's come

467
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Speaker 12: into a warm cafe when it's cold through this winter

468
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Speaker 12: we've had weird amount is important, but you've also got

469
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Speaker 12: to go on the community news Linus. You've got to

470
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Speaker 12: go on the community Facebook page. We've got to stand Paul.

471
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Speaker 12: When the council wanted to have feedback from businesses, you've

472
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Speaker 12: got to take a lead in it because you're part

473
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Speaker 12: of that business community.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, great to chat with you, London. So it

475
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Speaker 3: was La Bill.

476
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Speaker 12: Was it the name of the cafe l bull Yeah,

477
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Speaker 12: Lumble Cafe and Bar on the main road of Bulls.

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Speaker 3: I'm just having to look at a picture of your eggs, Benny.

479
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Speaker 3: Looks beautiful, looks real good.

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Speaker 12: Our local eggs. And we have a beef plant and

481
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Speaker 12: bulls a lamb plant figuring you just up the road.

482
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Speaker 12: So we're using all local producce. So we're trying to

483
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Speaker 12: get that name where people say o country Bulls cut

484
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Speaker 12: stop in the face. I was angry when I heard.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

486
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Speaker 12: I got off the dishes and thought, I'm going to

487
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Speaker 12: bring you to tell you that guy who says that

488
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Speaker 12: five dolls fifty with creeping it, he's got to We'll

489
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Speaker 12: love to meet him in person, London.

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Speaker 2: I will I go through Bulls a lot. I'll be

491
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Speaker 2: stopping in to see you guys, and I'll pay. I'll

492
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Speaker 2: pay four fifty for that cup of tea. God damn it,

493
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Speaker 2: I'll pay for.

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Speaker 1: Ye know.

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Speaker 5: That's cool.

496
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Speaker 12: Now you just make sure your little notes. We don't

497
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Speaker 12: see your face on the radio, so well you might

498
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Speaker 12: so we'll have.

499
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Speaker 2: An incredibly good looking man six foot two comes in.

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Speaker 2: That's that's not me all right anyway, And thank you

501
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Speaker 2: so much for well, thank you very much. O. One

502
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number to call

503
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Speaker 2: go headlines with Scarlett. Then we're getting back into what

504
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Speaker 2: it is. Twenty nine to two.

505
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Speaker 15: Jew's talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis, it's

506
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Speaker 15: no trouble with a Blue Bubble. The focus remains on

507
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Speaker 15: the children and the hunt for missing Muda cooper man

508
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Speaker 15: Tom Phillips. Please have released CCTV footage they believe to

509
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Speaker 15: be Phillips and one of his three children during a

510
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Speaker 15: burglary in the King Country town of Pio. Pure New

511
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Speaker 15: Zealand's condemned Iram's actions in Australia, but there's no word

512
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Speaker 15: on whether the Iranian ambassador here will also be booted out.

513
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Speaker 15: Australian officials have expelled their ambassador after confirmation Iran was

514
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Speaker 15: behind at least two anti Semitic incidents. Firearms heading for

515
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Speaker 15: the black market have been targeted by police in an

516
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Speaker 15: operation centered in May of Plenty and Gisbon. A number

517
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Speaker 15: of arrests have been made, but no guns recover it.

518
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Speaker 15: State Highway seven between Springs Junction and Lewis Pass has

519
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Speaker 15: reopened after heavy snowfall, but the Auckland Harbor Bridge has

520
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Speaker 15: a lower speed limit to to strong wind. Fashion Week's

521
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Speaker 15: been a big success in Auckland this week and it's

522
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Speaker 15: set to revert to an annual event for the next

523
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Speaker 15: few years. Christ Church has also signed a partnership with

524
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Speaker 15: organizers to host the new Spring Fashion Festival in November.

525
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Speaker 15: And remarkable TV and Z turnaround from a big loss

526
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Speaker 15: to profit and a dividend for taxpayers. Read this and

527
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Speaker 15: more from media insider at Enzed Herald Premium. Now back

528
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Speaker 15: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Garlet. We're talking about the hospitality

530
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Speaker 3: industry and it's no secret to anybody that there's been

531
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Speaker 3: a lot of liquidations and a lot of closures of

532
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Speaker 3: those hospow businesses, cafes and bars over the past couple

533
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Speaker 3: of years. But we want to hear from you, if

534
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Speaker 3: you work in the industry, what do you wish the

535
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Speaker 3: public knew about the challenges you are facing right now.

536
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Speaker 2: In the past twelve months, two five hundred and sixty

537
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Speaker 2: four hospitality businesses have shut nineteen percent more than the

538
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Speaker 2: twenty one hundred and fifty eight a year earlier. That's

539
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Speaker 2: a lot of people's lives and businesses and you know

540
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Speaker 2: great you know, get together places disappearing from communities.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Stss says, I never understand New Zealanders who seem to

543
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Speaker 2: think that service providers cafes, restaurants should provide them with

544
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Speaker 2: the cheap product but aren't entitled to make a margin.

545
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Speaker 2: It's quite pathetic. Someone's running a business, then they need

546
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Speaker 2: to make some money for running the business. Yeah, otherwise

547
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Speaker 2: why would they do it. They're not doing it as

548
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Speaker 2: a service for you.

549
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Speaker 3: They're not trying to fleeh you so just trying to

550
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Speaker 3: run a business.

551
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Speaker 2: So they'll try and make a put a price that

552
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Speaker 2: means that they can stay in business and pay themselves

553
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Speaker 2: a little bit. Otherwise what are they slave labor for you?

554
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Speaker 3: I mean, and they have to be competitive. There's a

555
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Speaker 3: lot of competition out there. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

556
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Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call get a Warren.

557
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Speaker 16: Hey, how's it going?

558
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Speaker 17: Hey?

559
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Speaker 16: Guys, thanks for me on the show. Hello listeners, just

560
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Speaker 16: a little bit of background. I'm very very I was

561
00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:10,373
Speaker 16: living in South Korea for ten and a half years.

562
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Speaker 16: Ahs right, I love them, Matt. I was in the

563
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Speaker 16: hospital game for ten and a half years in the

564
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Speaker 16: bar business, and I've just come making New Zealands to

565
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Speaker 16: live and I've been talking to a few cafe and

566
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Speaker 16: bar owners. You know, I was paying for two locations

567
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Speaker 16: over there, New Zealand equivalent maybe three grands three and

568
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Speaker 16: a half grand maximum for rent, which is crazy. And

569
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Speaker 16: you see, you never get those prices in New Zealands.

570
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Speaker 16: I've just been in. I'm from told On the originally,

571
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Speaker 16: and I'm not where I'm living right now. And I've

572
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Speaker 16: been talking to this lady who's been the business for

573
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Speaker 16: eight months, and I can just see the spear in

574
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Speaker 16: her eyes, like are you okay? And she goes, no,

575
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Speaker 16: my what's wrong?

576
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Speaker 12: Just my rent is a so high?

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Speaker 16: Business sucks. And I said, look, you know how much

578
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Speaker 16: do you pay in rent?

579
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Speaker 5: What?

580
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Speaker 16: Six grand? Seven grand? No, seventeen thousand dollars a month

581
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Speaker 16: in rent alone? Now, listeners, whoa how many coffees do

582
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Speaker 16: you have to sell just to pay the rent, it's

583
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Speaker 16: not the twitting stuff. Utilities, wages and not to me

584
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Speaker 16: and tax so you know, but at the same time,

585
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Speaker 16: you know these things are these prices are really high. Also,

586
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Speaker 16: her place is a franchise, so she's paying monthly buddy royalties,

587
00:26:17,613 --> 00:26:21,253
Speaker 16: which goodness me, I'd be pulling my hair out anyways.

588
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Speaker 16: But at the same time, it is down to the owners.

589
00:26:23,813 --> 00:26:25,533
Speaker 16: You know, you've got to give At the same time,

590
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Speaker 16: you know things are expensive, and yes, five six dollars

591
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Speaker 16: for a coffee, you know that some people might find

592
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Speaker 16: that a bit expensive. But if you're an owner, you've

593
00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:35,253
Speaker 16: really got to train your team well, you know, you've

594
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Speaker 16: got to give every single damn customer every as many

595
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Speaker 16: reasons to come back as possible. So I think it's

596
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Speaker 16: a little bit of onus on the owners as well.

597
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Speaker 16: A lot of places may not be being run as

598
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Speaker 16: awesomely as asy as they could be, but you just

599
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Speaker 16: you've got to really turn those first time as into

600
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Speaker 16: regulars and just create this massive machine of regulars that

601
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Speaker 16: keep coming back.

602
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Speaker 5: But yeah, well.

603
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Speaker 2: Whereabouts generally, sorry, I must that she's paying that much rent.

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Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah, seventeen grand month. This isn't This isn't

605
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Speaker 16: in Tewana, uh and a shopping mall. I don't I

606
00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:14,173
Speaker 16: don't want to.

607
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. But even saying to that is

608
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Speaker 3: that is crazy. I mean, or even Auckland, I would,

609
00:27:19,733 --> 00:27:21,253
Speaker 3: you know, say what the hell is going on there?

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Speaker 2: But tit on now, that's that's a lot of coffees, dude.

611
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Speaker 16: And also I'll talking another bar and then told on

612
00:27:27,813 --> 00:27:30,213
Speaker 16: and they're up to the same price. But the good

613
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Speaker 16: thing about a bar is that people don't generally go

614
00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:35,813
Speaker 16: in and have one beer, They'll have two, three, four food.

615
00:27:36,093 --> 00:27:38,213
Speaker 16: Think about coffee shops made. How many copees can you

616
00:27:38,253 --> 00:27:41,373
Speaker 16: have sitting down one two maximum? I mean, you know,

617
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:44,933
Speaker 16: so as a customer, you know, look at those awesome

618
00:27:44,973 --> 00:27:48,293
Speaker 16: people that run a great business and then and go

619
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Speaker 16: back to them, really really support them, you know. And

620
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Speaker 16: also half the stuff they're cooking and making in the kitchen,

621
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Speaker 16: you know, it takes a lot of time to make

622
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Speaker 16: at home. So if you want to spend half an

623
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Speaker 16: hour forty minutes for making a few muffins, go for God,

624
00:28:01,293 --> 00:28:03,093
Speaker 16: but go down the road get one. That's what you

625
00:28:03,173 --> 00:28:06,013
Speaker 16: wanted anyway. And yeah, and support local business, That's what

626
00:28:06,133 --> 00:28:06,413
Speaker 16: I say.

627
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, positive, And I support you and I a

628
00:28:10,933 --> 00:28:12,093
Speaker 3: coffee Tyler, did you?

629
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

630
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Speaker 2: What do you mean, did you?

631
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Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Yeah forred, just thank you. Yeah, I

632
00:28:17,213 --> 00:28:18,053
Speaker 3: thought you got another one.

633
00:28:17,973 --> 00:28:20,133
Speaker 2: So I got you. You had long black and I

634
00:28:20,253 --> 00:28:23,733
Speaker 2: had a delicious Americano with cream nice eleven dollars twenty two.

635
00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:26,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's reasonable, that's fair. Yeah, I think the

636
00:28:26,853 --> 00:28:28,733
Speaker 3: cream kind of took it over that extra a couple

637
00:28:28,733 --> 00:28:29,093
Speaker 3: of bucks.

638
00:28:29,173 --> 00:28:29,533
Speaker 8: But yeah.

639
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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

640
00:28:33,453 --> 00:28:35,133
Speaker 3: and plenty of ticks coming through as well. We'll get

641
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Speaker 3: to a few of those.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the entertainment business, which is a lot easier

644
00:28:38,493 --> 00:28:41,093
Speaker 2: than food. Hospital, but food doesn't keep If customers don't

645
00:28:41,133 --> 00:28:42,613
Speaker 2: show up, your stock has to be binned.

646
00:28:42,773 --> 00:28:45,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's that's hard to deal with.

647
00:28:45,293 --> 00:28:47,173
Speaker 2: What do they call that? Is it called shrinkage? I'm

648
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Speaker 2: not sure.

649
00:28:47,453 --> 00:28:50,013
Speaker 3: Freakage maybe something like that. Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty

650
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Speaker 3: ten eighties and number to call twenty to two.

651
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

652
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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 5: It's Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: News Talks V seventeen to two, so just check in here.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking to Warren before and he said that

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Speaker 2: there was a cafe and he was talking that was

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Speaker 2: paying seventeen thousand dollars a month and todonger, which is,

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Speaker 2: as this text points out, two hundred and four k

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Speaker 2: a year. That surely, surely that's not possible.

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Speaker 3: So someone in it seems very high. It's going to

661
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Speaker 3: say a little high.

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Speaker 2: That seems that is that even that would be ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It would have to be paved in gold.

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Speaker 3: That would be a big, big cafe.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he was getting confused between, you know, because

666
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Speaker 2: he said he'd spending his time in Thailand. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: maybe he was getting confused. I don't know, but it

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Speaker 2: just seems a lot.

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Speaker 3: But you know, have here of Totong how much you're

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Speaker 3: paying for your rent? Is that about right? Seventeen came up? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You tell us if that that that would be possible.

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Speaker 2: Now a lot of people are getting angry at this text.

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Speaker 2: Cafes charged too much. That's why they go out of business.

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Speaker 2: You can't tell me it costs five dollars to make

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Speaker 2: a coffee. You can make anything a cafe makes own

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Speaker 2: for a quarter of the cost. That isn't a cafe.

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Speaker 2: They obviously creaming it from the till this is that

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Speaker 2: text has made a lot of people angry. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 2: That text to highlights just how financially illiterate New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: are no idea at all about finances and more than

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Speaker 2: likely Green's voters, as he would be the first with

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Speaker 2: his hand out for anything. We need New Zealanders to

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00:30:12,973 --> 00:30:15,533
Speaker 2: smarten up. Every time minimum wage or interest rates go up,

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00:30:15,613 --> 00:30:17,933
Speaker 2: so does everything else. I'm an accountant and I want

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Speaker 2: to pull my hair out and I don't have much

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Speaker 2: left when I hear people like that make stupid comments.

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Speaker 2: These guys employ people that help raise taxes so people

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Speaker 2: can get the benefits and services we have in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Give me strength, can feel that anger?

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Speaker 2: Three anger emojis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly raked up the calls in the text machine.

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Speaker 3: Get aj Thank god, very good, my friend. So what's

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Speaker 3: your take? You you work in hospit in Queenstown.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, more than I sort of bar sort of.

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Speaker 8: You know, obviously I know a little bit about all

697
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Speaker 8: of it. But yeah, it's crazy that people comment about copy.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's probably the one thing that hasn't kept

699
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Speaker 8: up with inflation, you know, and minimum wages and increases.

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Speaker 8: I think five fifty realistic. I have seen six dollar

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Speaker 8: copies already. Yes, fair enough with the way prices have

702
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Speaker 8: gone up. So yeah, I think that's Chris comments. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think, yeah, let's not forget. I mean, we are

704
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Speaker 8: in a recession after COVID, so you know, you can

705
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Speaker 8: pay the power to the start as a consumer, and

706
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Speaker 8: then you're going to think about going out for dinner

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Speaker 8: or drinking. So you know, we all know, not a

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Speaker 8: lot of the money. Unfortunately, hospitals one of the things

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Speaker 8: that a lot of people would would cut straight out

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Speaker 8: of their their life, before groceries or you know, any

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Speaker 8: other expenses like that, insurances and whatever else. So it

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Speaker 8: is a luxury, luxury part of the budget, isn't it

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Speaker 8: going out for dinner or drinking?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: The other thing too, I would say about some restaurants, Look,

716
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Speaker 8: you know, I don't go along with the overcharging, and

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00:31:58,093 --> 00:32:02,733
Speaker 8: there's definitely not overcharging. But I think straight after COVID,

718
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Speaker 8: I saw some restaurants adjust very quickly and go for

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Speaker 8: a more budget, bigger meal type option rather than the

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Speaker 8: fine dining, which I think most of us have done

721
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Speaker 8: and gotten a little bit sick of, you know, going

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Speaker 8: to find dining and coming home having to go to

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Speaker 8: McDonald's on the way home because you're still hungry. So

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Speaker 8: I think some places didn't adjust. I mean, you're better

725
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Speaker 8: off to have one hundred people come through the door

726
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Speaker 8: making a little bit less profit on things.

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Speaker 2: So like, is that sort of running peaks, pizzas or

728
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Speaker 2: you know, things that you can get through the system quickly.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, just maybe bigger meals more prices luxuries. There

730
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Speaker 8: was a place an Aratown that did that straight after.

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Speaker 8: I think they had two restaurants actually, and they one

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Speaker 8: of them stayed, you know, not not fine dining, but

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Speaker 8: more high end than the other one. They bang and

734
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Speaker 8: it's always full. And if I'm an Aratown, that's the

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Speaker 8: place that I'm going because I know I can go

736
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Speaker 8: in and get a pub burger, very big pub burger,

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Speaker 8: for a very affordable price and a beer. Yeah, and

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Speaker 8: you don't walk out spending one hundred You've.

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Speaker 3: Been very diplomatic, Jane. Good on you, and you've been

740
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Speaker 3: in the business for a long time. But when I

741
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Speaker 3: think about the cafes and the small operators, you know,

742
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Speaker 3: that's that circular economy, and I get that people may

743
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Speaker 3: think it's a luxury, and it is for a lot

744
00:33:14,413 --> 00:33:16,973
Speaker 3: of people out there, but it's still beneficial to go

745
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Speaker 3: down there and support those cafes. And you've got to

746
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Speaker 3: think about what your needs are at the moment. And

747
00:33:21,853 --> 00:33:24,533
Speaker 3: a lot of people are struggling, but that actually benefits

748
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Speaker 3: the economy and benefits other businesses and gets some more

749
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Speaker 3: confidence and then they start employing people. You get where

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Speaker 3: I'm coming from. And I think some people forget agree,

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Speaker 3: they forget that idea.

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Speaker 2: Of when the cafe goes from your little area, then

753
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Speaker 2: it's the place just feels dead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: But you know, I'm just looking at it from people

756
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Speaker 8: that are struggling.

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Speaker 9: You know, they have.

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Speaker 2: As a going down there. And you're in Queenstown, aren't you. Jay,

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Speaker 2: That's a bright spot in the economy, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: Well, yes it is, but I mean everyone's affected in

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Speaker 8: a recession. But one thing I would say is that

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Speaker 8: from what I I don't own. I've worked in the

763
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Speaker 8: in the that long for thirty years and quincident, so

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Speaker 8: I can't Tommy's exactly on restaurants, but they looked like

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Speaker 8: they do a little bit better than the bars. There

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Speaker 8: is no nightlife anymore, right, and it's taken me a

767
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Speaker 8: while to give a hit around that, but it is

768
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Speaker 8: partly a cultural change, so it was instant from COVID

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Speaker 8: post COVID. The nightlife has never recovered.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay, really good to have a chat with you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to an awesome new pub, the Springs

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Speaker 2: Tavern and any Hunger. They had a hell of a

774
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Speaker 2: time dealing with Nimbi's before opening up, but we're all

775
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Speaker 2: off there to support and enjoy a long lunch. Good show, chaps. Yeah,

776
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Speaker 2: that the Springs Tavern and only Hunger is such a

777
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Speaker 2: good bar and they it was disgusting the way they

778
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Speaker 2: were treated and how hard it was for them to

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Speaker 2: get open. Because it's a great, great place. So you

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Speaker 2: get a chance to go to the Springs Tavern, Yeah

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Speaker 2: and Hunger do it?

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Speaker 3: Love it right, Thank you very much. Stand by. Coming up,

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Speaker 3: we're going to have a chat with Andrew Young. He's

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Speaker 3: the CEO of the Cancer Society's Auckland Northland division. It

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Speaker 3: is of course daff it all day, so we're going

786
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Speaker 3: to have a chat to Andrew next. It is eleven

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 5: It's Matt Heath and Tylor Adams. Afternoons, News Talks V,

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Speaker 5: News Talks AB.

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Speaker 3: So today is daffit all day and News Talks AB

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Speaker 3: along with A and Z supporting the one and three

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Speaker 3: key are key. He is affected by cancer. So text

795
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Speaker 3: right now and polease support. Donate to three four nine three.

796
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Speaker 3: That makes an instant three dollar donation to the Cancer Society.

797
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Speaker 3: And as we speak we've just been handed away note here.

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Speaker 3: So far sixty one, five hundred and seventy eight dollars

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Speaker 3: has been raised.

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Speaker 4: That is so good.

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Speaker 2: Good work out there, So keep three four nine three

802
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Speaker 2: Text donate to three four nine three for an instant

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Speaker 2: three dollar donation.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So we are joined right now by Andrew Young. He's

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Speaker 3: the CEO of the Cancer Society's Auckland Northland division and

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Speaker 3: he joins us in the studio. Okaday, Andrew, nice.

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Speaker 18: To see you, Good afternoon, guys.

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Speaker 14: Good to be here.

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Speaker 2: Andrew. How did you get involved with the Cancer Society?

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Speaker 2: What brought you to that?

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Speaker 18: I've had a life in corporate and charity and I

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Speaker 18: lost my mum to Kent in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 18: so it felt like the stars were aligned when those

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Speaker 18: flash Headhunters rang me and said hey, the Cancer Society

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Speaker 18: is looking for a new CEO, and I thought, I'm

817
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Speaker 18: going to do this for mum.

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Speaker 2: Good on you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what support out there or is there out

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Speaker 3: there at the moment, Andrew for people going through cancer

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Speaker 3: or cancer within their own family. Yeah, well that's what

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Speaker 3: we're all about.

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Speaker 18: So the CAN Society is there to really provide that

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Speaker 18: wrap around service or free services, and that's what we've

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Speaker 18: been doing for almost one hundred years, is helping kiwis

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Speaker 18: through often what is the toughest battle of their lives. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: really proud of our big array of services, as.

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Speaker 3: You should be.

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Speaker 2: So how will someone's nation be spent? How is it

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Speaker 2: used to help cancer sufferers?

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Speaker 18: Are lots of really important ways. So the CAN Society

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Speaker 18: is the biggest private funder of cancer research in New Zealand.

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Speaker 18: So we're determined we're out there to try and find

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Speaker 18: that cure or better pathways or better drugs to prolong

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Speaker 18: life or even to minimize cancer. So we're out there

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Speaker 18: doing that research day in and day out.

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Speaker 2: Now I should probably know this, but it just struck

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Speaker 2: me because I've been part of Deafitil Days for many

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Speaker 2: years now and been involved. But where does the daffodil

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Speaker 2: come from? And it's what's the symbolism there?

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Speaker 18: We actually bludged that idea from overseas, like any good

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Speaker 18: idea seldom unique. So over thirty five years ago, one

843
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Speaker 18: of our board members was traveling overseas through Europe and

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Speaker 18: saw that kancer societies over there were using the beautiful,

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Speaker 18: bright yellow daffodil as a symbol of hope, you know,

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Speaker 18: like a ray of sunshine, and thought, oh, what the hell,

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Speaker 18: it's quite a good idea, and came back and said,

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Speaker 18: we borrow that idea.

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Speaker 2: That's a very cool stylized daffodil thing that you're wearing

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Speaker 2: shirt there, skimy, what would you call that jump T shirt?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: It's a T shirt, I see because it's got a

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Speaker 2: long black sleeve underneath it.

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Speaker 3: Right, it looks cool? Is that the design for this year?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 18: Mister vintage used to do a whole collect and this

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00:38:09,173 --> 00:38:12,533
Speaker 18: was about four years ago, but I'm into vintage T shirts. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: you just keep rolling them out.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, He's you're wearing a single.

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Speaker 3: We're quite rural and so whatever. Yeah, now let's talk

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Speaker 3: about the partnership with A and Z. Those guys have

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00:38:24,933 --> 00:38:27,413
Speaker 3: supported you for for quite a few years now, haven't

863
00:38:27,413 --> 00:38:28,013
Speaker 3: they well.

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Speaker 18: Over thirty years, and it's a partnership that runs deep

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Speaker 18: and means a huge amount.

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Speaker 3: So A and Z get behind us.

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Speaker 18: All of their staff are made up of, you know,

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Speaker 18: thousands of really amazing people and many have gone through

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Speaker 18: the cancer journey as well. So they mobilize themselves into

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Speaker 18: workplaces and they do bake sales, and they do a

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Speaker 18: huge amount of internal fundraising and they're just an incredible partner.

872
00:38:54,533 --> 00:38:58,253
Speaker 2: The one and three number is quite a scary number.

873
00:38:59,013 --> 00:39:02,893
Speaker 2: Is that going up or leveling or going down? Where

874
00:39:02,933 --> 00:39:04,773
Speaker 2: are we in terms of cancer rates in this country?

875
00:39:04,973 --> 00:39:05,133
Speaker 11: Yeah?

876
00:39:05,173 --> 00:39:07,853
Speaker 18: It so very scary just to explain that one in

877
00:39:07,973 --> 00:39:12,333
Speaker 18: three Kiwis will be diagnosed with cancer in their lifetime. Unfortunately,

878
00:39:12,493 --> 00:39:16,053
Speaker 18: the global forecasting is that that'll become one and two

879
00:39:16,573 --> 00:39:19,573
Speaker 18: diagnosed with cancer within twenty years.

880
00:39:20,413 --> 00:39:23,812
Speaker 3: Wow, very scary. Andrew, thank you very much for coming

881
00:39:23,853 --> 00:39:25,773
Speaker 3: in and having a chat with us, and all the

882
00:39:25,933 --> 00:39:28,453
Speaker 3: very best for deffit all day. You do amazing work

883
00:39:28,613 --> 00:39:30,973
Speaker 3: and there's some cool stuff going on downstairs and within

884
00:39:31,013 --> 00:39:33,013
Speaker 3: the company and around New Zealand as well, so really

885
00:39:33,053 --> 00:39:34,813
Speaker 3: appreciate it and we'll catch up again.

886
00:39:34,893 --> 00:39:35,893
Speaker 18: So yeah, thanks guys.

887
00:39:36,053 --> 00:39:39,093
Speaker 3: That is Andrew Young, CEO of the Cancer Society's Auckland

888
00:39:39,133 --> 00:39:43,013
Speaker 3: Northland division. And remember you can do it right now

889
00:39:43,133 --> 00:39:46,293
Speaker 3: and please do text donate to three four nine to three.

890
00:39:46,373 --> 00:39:49,853
Speaker 3: That makes an instant three dollar donation to the Cancer Society,

891
00:39:49,973 --> 00:39:51,253
Speaker 3: and please give generously.

892
00:39:51,413 --> 00:39:52,213
Speaker 2: I'm doing it right now.

893
00:39:52,293 --> 00:39:53,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, good man. You've done it a few times and

894
00:39:54,413 --> 00:39:56,293
Speaker 3: you'll continue to do it throughout the afternoon. It goes

895
00:39:56,333 --> 00:39:58,813
Speaker 3: to a great cause. Andrew, good to see it again, mate.

896
00:39:58,813 --> 00:40:01,973
Speaker 3: We'll catch up again. Searches right coming up very shortly.

897
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:04,413
Speaker 3: We want to have a we're going to carry on

898
00:40:04,573 --> 00:40:07,293
Speaker 3: this chat about the restaurant and hospitality business. We had

899
00:40:07,373 --> 00:40:10,133
Speaker 3: so many people alling us that we're going to carry

900
00:40:10,173 --> 00:40:11,692
Speaker 3: it on after two o' croop, but we still want

901
00:40:11,693 --> 00:40:13,853
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

902
00:40:13,893 --> 00:40:15,693
Speaker 3: If you're in the game right now, what do you

903
00:40:15,773 --> 00:40:18,613
Speaker 3: wish the public knew about the challenges you were facing?

904
00:40:19,053 --> 00:40:21,373
Speaker 3: It is three minutes to two New Sport and whether

905
00:40:21,413 --> 00:40:23,053
Speaker 3: or it's way you're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very

906
00:40:23,093 --> 00:40:23,773
Speaker 3: good afternoon to you.

907
00:40:26,813 --> 00:40:30,533
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

908
00:40:30,653 --> 00:40:32,453
Speaker 1: Afternoons news talk Z.

909
00:40:32,493 --> 00:40:36,253
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoons you six pass two now.

910
00:40:36,373 --> 00:40:38,652
Speaker 3: Just a reminder, it is daff it all day to day.

911
00:40:38,773 --> 00:40:41,133
Speaker 3: We are supporting it along of course with A and

912
00:40:41,253 --> 00:40:44,213
Speaker 3: Z and many others. So please donate if you can.

913
00:40:44,293 --> 00:40:45,893
Speaker 3: To do that nice and easy, all you got to

914
00:40:45,973 --> 00:40:49,093
Speaker 3: do is text donate to three four nine to three.

915
00:40:49,173 --> 00:40:51,893
Speaker 3: That makes an instant three buck donation in such a

916
00:40:51,933 --> 00:40:52,453
Speaker 3: worthy cause.

917
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:52,613
Speaker 1: Ye.

918
00:40:52,653 --> 00:40:55,413
Speaker 2: And Andrew Young, the CEO of the Kansas Society Auckland

919
00:40:55,533 --> 00:40:58,333
Speaker 2: and Northland, was just in Yeah. And he wasn't wearing

920
00:40:58,333 --> 00:41:00,853
Speaker 2: a singlet. No, I said he was, but I was

921
00:41:00,893 --> 00:41:02,453
Speaker 2: looking for the word. I think the word I was

922
00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:05,093
Speaker 2: looking for was skivvy. Yeah, because when I'm playing Paul,

923
00:41:05,093 --> 00:41:08,212
Speaker 2: I always say singlet's all skivvyes it's a skip.

924
00:41:08,813 --> 00:41:09,973
Speaker 3: But it was, you know, because he had the T

925
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:12,773
Speaker 3: shirt on then the long sleeve T shirt as well.

926
00:41:12,853 --> 00:41:14,893
Speaker 3: It was it was looking good, but yeah, he looked.

927
00:41:14,693 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 2: It A good looking man who does good work. And

928
00:41:16,573 --> 00:41:20,013
Speaker 2: he had a cool tea on and text donate to

929
00:41:20,173 --> 00:41:22,493
Speaker 2: three four nine three to make an instant three dollars

930
00:41:22,533 --> 00:41:23,853
Speaker 2: donation to the Cancer Society.

931
00:41:23,933 --> 00:41:26,693
Speaker 3: Let's go, yes, right, let's get back into this discussion

932
00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:29,933
Speaker 3: we've been having about the hospitality industry. So in the

933
00:41:30,013 --> 00:41:33,773
Speaker 3: past twelve months, two five hundred and sixty four hospow

934
00:41:33,853 --> 00:41:36,893
Speaker 3: businesses have shut their doors. That's almost twenty percent more

935
00:41:37,213 --> 00:41:39,732
Speaker 3: than a year earlier. And we all know it's incredibly

936
00:41:39,853 --> 00:41:42,212
Speaker 3: tough out there. So the question we've thrown out, we'd

937
00:41:42,213 --> 00:41:44,093
Speaker 3: love to hear from you if you work in the industry,

938
00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:46,173
Speaker 3: but what do you wish the public knew about the

939
00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:48,053
Speaker 3: challenges you were facing at the moment. We had some

940
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:51,733
Speaker 3: text earlier complaining about the price of coffee and cafe

941
00:41:51,813 --> 00:41:54,212
Speaker 3: owners were trying to fleece us. What do you say

942
00:41:54,253 --> 00:41:54,733
Speaker 3: to people like.

943
00:41:54,773 --> 00:41:59,333
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I agree with the person who mett ridiculed

944
00:41:59,373 --> 00:42:02,652
Speaker 2: cafes charged too much. That's why no one goes see

945
00:42:02,693 --> 00:42:05,053
Speaker 2: I just don't you know. And we've had people on

946
00:42:05,173 --> 00:42:07,893
Speaker 2: that just list all the expenses that a cafe has.

947
00:42:07,973 --> 00:42:10,773
Speaker 2: You got the rent, you've got wages, you've got the

948
00:42:10,973 --> 00:42:12,613
Speaker 2: you know obviously, the food that you've got to buy,

949
00:42:12,693 --> 00:42:17,933
Speaker 2: and the beverages, utilities, you've got the equipment and the maintenance,

950
00:42:18,413 --> 00:42:20,493
Speaker 2: then you've got some you've got technology as well.

951
00:42:20,693 --> 00:42:23,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean market on the heads and you know,

952
00:42:23,573 --> 00:42:24,173
Speaker 3: and then if you.

953
00:42:24,173 --> 00:42:26,652
Speaker 2: Don't sell the food in that given day for whatever reason,

954
00:42:26,733 --> 00:42:27,973
Speaker 2: it rains and no one comes out, you got to

955
00:42:28,013 --> 00:42:28,613
Speaker 2: throw the food out.

956
00:42:28,733 --> 00:42:30,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough out there, absolutely. Oh, eight one hundred and

957
00:42:30,893 --> 00:42:33,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you

958
00:42:33,173 --> 00:42:35,413
Speaker 3: want to send a text. Nine two ninety two is

959
00:42:35,613 --> 00:42:38,293
Speaker 3: that number? Now you're a hospital owner.

960
00:42:39,493 --> 00:42:42,212
Speaker 6: Yeah, hi, lads, I sure am. I'm a hostpit owner

961
00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:45,173
Speaker 6: here in Hamilton, and I would agree you've had a

962
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:47,293
Speaker 6: couple of good callers from some business owners earlier I

963
00:42:47,413 --> 00:42:50,732
Speaker 6: heard today, but I wanted to, I suppose just point

964
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:53,093
Speaker 6: out a couple of things for people you mentioned, like

965
00:42:53,173 --> 00:42:56,733
Speaker 6: what do we want customers to understand about our sector?

966
00:42:56,933 --> 00:43:01,453
Speaker 6: And it's a really tough it's a really strange business model.

967
00:43:01,453 --> 00:43:04,253
Speaker 6: If you think about any ordinary business, you have an

968
00:43:04,693 --> 00:43:06,933
Speaker 6: eight hour teen hour workday that you can make your

969
00:43:06,973 --> 00:43:09,732
Speaker 6: money in. For a hospital business, be at a lunch

970
00:43:10,213 --> 00:43:13,453
Speaker 6: cafe version or a bar pub kind of environment, which

971
00:43:13,453 --> 00:43:16,453
Speaker 6: is where I'm my business is. We make how money

972
00:43:16,493 --> 00:43:19,453
Speaker 6: in about three hours, so we don't. People don't come

973
00:43:19,493 --> 00:43:22,533
Speaker 6: out and eat all day long. So any daily business

974
00:43:22,613 --> 00:43:25,373
Speaker 6: take needs to be taken in those three hour window

975
00:43:25,413 --> 00:43:26,733
Speaker 6: where you want to eat dinner or you want to

976
00:43:26,773 --> 00:43:29,453
Speaker 6: eat lunch. So if you've got to think about, okay,

977
00:43:29,453 --> 00:43:32,333
Speaker 6: we need to pack everything we can into those three hours.

978
00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:34,773
Speaker 6: Now when you get and you can only take obviously

979
00:43:34,773 --> 00:43:37,733
Speaker 6: as many people as you've got seats for starters, and

980
00:43:37,813 --> 00:43:39,733
Speaker 6: then you'll try and turn those tables if you can.

981
00:43:39,853 --> 00:43:42,093
Speaker 6: So you've got that first, that sort of limited capacity

982
00:43:42,133 --> 00:43:44,773
Speaker 6: in the first instance. The second thing then to think

983
00:43:44,813 --> 00:43:46,893
Speaker 6: about after that is okay, once you've got all those

984
00:43:46,893 --> 00:43:49,133
Speaker 6: people in the door and you've had them eating, that's fantastic.

985
00:43:50,213 --> 00:43:52,253
Speaker 6: How do we monitor how much we charge them?

986
00:43:52,293 --> 00:43:52,413
Speaker 5: Now?

987
00:43:52,453 --> 00:43:54,613
Speaker 6: Obviously there's been a lot of people frame it cafes

988
00:43:54,613 --> 00:43:58,133
Speaker 6: are charging too much. I will confirm that as absolutely rubbish.

989
00:43:59,013 --> 00:44:01,933
Speaker 6: But we are starting to hit a ceiling about how

990
00:44:02,053 --> 00:44:04,893
Speaker 6: much we can charge based on so much the consumer

991
00:44:04,973 --> 00:44:06,933
Speaker 6: is willing to pay. I mean, I can keep putting

992
00:44:06,973 --> 00:44:09,813
Speaker 6: my prices up to maintain my mondus, but customers just

993
00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:12,173
Speaker 6: aren't going to pay it. So all that's happening, and

994
00:44:12,253 --> 00:44:14,613
Speaker 6: much the same way you manage a household budget. You've

995
00:44:14,653 --> 00:44:16,973
Speaker 6: got to manage your business budget. So just like everyone's

996
00:44:16,973 --> 00:44:20,493
Speaker 6: saying supermarkets are getting stupidly expensive, our food costs are

997
00:44:20,493 --> 00:44:23,413
Speaker 6: getting you know, stupidly expensive, much like our beverage costs.

998
00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:26,213
Speaker 6: Then our wages. A few people have mentioned wages. That

999
00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:28,813
Speaker 6: is by and large our biggest costs. There is no

1000
00:44:28,933 --> 00:44:31,613
Speaker 6: doubt about that. Ideally it would be an even split

1001
00:44:31,773 --> 00:44:34,933
Speaker 6: between food and beverage and wage cost in terms of

1002
00:44:35,333 --> 00:44:38,133
Speaker 6: how we manage our budgets, it's not anymore. And that

1003
00:44:38,373 --> 00:44:41,093
Speaker 6: comes from a lot of those ongoing costs in terms

1004
00:44:41,133 --> 00:44:43,973
Speaker 6: of keeping is staff paying them well, but also they're

1005
00:44:44,013 --> 00:44:47,173
Speaker 6: managing the various types of leaves, the a SEC requirements,

1006
00:44:47,213 --> 00:44:49,813
Speaker 6: you know, all of those additional costs. So that's now

1007
00:44:49,933 --> 00:44:52,933
Speaker 6: taking out forty to In some businesses it's even more

1008
00:44:52,973 --> 00:44:55,693
Speaker 6: than forty percent twhich is a loss. So if you

1009
00:44:55,733 --> 00:44:58,333
Speaker 6: think of a ten dollar dish that you order, you know,

1010
00:44:58,613 --> 00:45:01,172
Speaker 6: twenty dollars burger or something, if you go out, at

1011
00:45:01,253 --> 00:45:03,613
Speaker 6: least ten dollars of that or you know, eight to

1012
00:45:03,733 --> 00:45:06,252
Speaker 6: ten dollars of that is going just to pay the staff. Wow,

1013
00:45:06,813 --> 00:45:08,573
Speaker 6: then we've got to think about how much you're paying

1014
00:45:08,573 --> 00:45:11,093
Speaker 6: in rent. I heard somebody mentioned a rent and Totonger before.

1015
00:45:11,373 --> 00:45:13,613
Speaker 6: I don't know about that particular business and of shopping.

1016
00:45:13,653 --> 00:45:17,093
Speaker 6: All the arts tend to be expensive, but in suburban Hamilton,

1017
00:45:17,093 --> 00:45:20,093
Speaker 6: I'm paying close to ten grand a month, so it's

1018
00:45:20,533 --> 00:45:23,613
Speaker 6: you know, there is seventeen is not unheard of. Auckland

1019
00:45:23,693 --> 00:45:27,293
Speaker 6: CBD rents higher again, so that's not unheard of. So

1020
00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:31,172
Speaker 6: if you're paying sort of twelve fifteen percent of your

1021
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:35,813
Speaker 6: angle reving rent, then you've got your insurance has gone

1022
00:45:35,893 --> 00:45:39,933
Speaker 6: up recently, you know, things like SkyTV for example, for

1023
00:45:40,013 --> 00:45:42,093
Speaker 6: a pub that's a big clast to us. We're paying

1024
00:45:42,133 --> 00:45:44,933
Speaker 6: sort of circle twelve thirteen thousand dollars a year for that.

1025
00:45:45,653 --> 00:45:48,652
Speaker 6: You know, it's there's all of these things add up considerably.

1026
00:45:48,773 --> 00:45:51,853
Speaker 6: And all that happens because we're having those ceilings is

1027
00:45:51,933 --> 00:45:54,053
Speaker 6: the margin strength. And that's why so many businesses are

1028
00:45:54,093 --> 00:45:55,813
Speaker 6: closing because they just can't make a buck at the

1029
00:45:55,893 --> 00:45:56,253
Speaker 6: end of it all.

1030
00:45:56,813 --> 00:45:59,013
Speaker 2: Now, do you also have to pay ATPRA You have

1031
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:01,533
Speaker 2: to pay for the for the rights to play music

1032
00:46:01,813 --> 00:46:02,333
Speaker 2: in a pub?

1033
00:46:02,573 --> 00:46:04,613
Speaker 6: Data we do, yep, one hundred percent yep.

1034
00:46:04,813 --> 00:46:08,652
Speaker 2: And how much is that? Roughly there's some.

1035
00:46:08,853 --> 00:46:11,253
Speaker 6: Paying around about three and a half thousand a year.

1036
00:46:12,053 --> 00:46:13,973
Speaker 2: See all those kind of things that no one would

1037
00:46:14,013 --> 00:46:16,573
Speaker 2: ever expect that you when you're in that bar listening

1038
00:46:16,613 --> 00:46:18,653
Speaker 2: to music, that that you are having to pay for

1039
00:46:18,733 --> 00:46:20,373
Speaker 2: the rights to play that music to them. They would

1040
00:46:20,413 --> 00:46:21,973
Speaker 2: never think that you're having to pay the sky bill.

1041
00:46:22,013 --> 00:46:23,652
Speaker 2: They probably think the sky bill is the same as

1042
00:46:23,693 --> 00:46:25,773
Speaker 2: their sky bill at home, exactly.

1043
00:46:27,173 --> 00:46:28,013
Speaker 6: I mean you want to payos?

1044
00:46:28,333 --> 00:46:30,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do they how do they justify twelve K?

1045
00:46:30,773 --> 00:46:32,093
Speaker 3: I mean break it down for me? Is that is

1046
00:46:32,133 --> 00:46:35,693
Speaker 3: that a fair price to pay sky TV for broadcasting sports?

1047
00:46:35,853 --> 00:46:36,373
Speaker 3: Maybe it is.

1048
00:46:38,253 --> 00:46:40,173
Speaker 6: The same for their business model. I guess we're to

1049
00:46:40,693 --> 00:46:42,813
Speaker 6: work out whether they you know, they are fleecing.

1050
00:46:42,533 --> 00:46:42,853
Speaker 5: Us or not.

1051
00:46:42,973 --> 00:46:46,933
Speaker 6: Who knows, certainly in terms of you know what we're paying.

1052
00:46:46,933 --> 00:46:49,813
Speaker 6: So we pay for for one dacota, obviously some sports

1053
00:46:49,853 --> 00:46:51,533
Speaker 6: bars and things are going to pay for two or three.

1054
00:46:52,093 --> 00:46:54,253
Speaker 6: So that's paying significantly more than what we are. But

1055
00:46:54,333 --> 00:46:58,293
Speaker 6: it's yeah, everything has a much larger price tag, I

1056
00:46:58,373 --> 00:47:00,732
Speaker 6: think than what anybody really appreciates. So by the time

1057
00:47:00,813 --> 00:47:03,853
Speaker 6: you break that down to a five dollar coffee, and

1058
00:47:04,013 --> 00:47:07,933
Speaker 6: realistically they should be ahist now if we're going to

1059
00:47:07,933 --> 00:47:09,773
Speaker 6: make them jones that we should be making now when

1060
00:47:09,813 --> 00:47:13,213
Speaker 6: I say margins for a hospitality business owner, a hospitality

1061
00:47:13,253 --> 00:47:15,493
Speaker 6: business is doing great. If I'm making ten percent at

1062
00:47:15,533 --> 00:47:17,653
Speaker 6: the end of the year, most of them are not.

1063
00:47:17,813 --> 00:47:19,493
Speaker 6: Most of them are sitting around two or three percent.

1064
00:47:20,093 --> 00:47:22,813
Speaker 6: They're really good ones around that fifteen mark. So if

1065
00:47:22,893 --> 00:47:25,893
Speaker 6: you think about that someone's doing let's say I don't know,

1066
00:47:25,933 --> 00:47:27,692
Speaker 6: a million bucks, just keep the numbers around a million

1067
00:47:27,733 --> 00:47:30,732
Speaker 6: bucks a year and turnover, they'll be lucky. If they're

1068
00:47:30,773 --> 00:47:32,533
Speaker 6: taking home one hundred thousand at the end of the year,

1069
00:47:32,893 --> 00:47:36,493
Speaker 6: potentially it's only twenty thousand. Now if that potentially one,

1070
00:47:36,533 --> 00:47:39,053
Speaker 6: maybe even two owners in that business who aren't paying themselves,

1071
00:47:39,373 --> 00:47:41,253
Speaker 6: they're basically doing a year's work for twenty k.

1072
00:47:41,613 --> 00:47:43,813
Speaker 2: I mean that must happen a lot, right, because, especially

1073
00:47:43,893 --> 00:47:46,533
Speaker 2: when you get to that area where you can't charge

1074
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:49,373
Speaker 2: any more, expenses are going up and you want to

1075
00:47:49,453 --> 00:47:52,692
Speaker 2: keep the business going. I mean, so many people would

1076
00:47:52,773 --> 00:47:55,493
Speaker 2: just end up basically doing slave labor in their own business.

1077
00:47:56,133 --> 00:47:58,692
Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, absolutely, based off a job and that job

1078
00:47:58,813 --> 00:48:02,013
Speaker 6: is well and truly underpaid. The other thing to think

1079
00:48:02,053 --> 00:48:04,373
Speaker 6: about is that, you know, the hospital businesses tend to

1080
00:48:04,413 --> 00:48:06,093
Speaker 6: be the first ones that people will come and knock

1081
00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:07,733
Speaker 6: on the doors for if they need support for their

1082
00:48:07,773 --> 00:48:11,133
Speaker 6: local community groups. Right, so we get responsor X number

1083
00:48:11,173 --> 00:48:14,093
Speaker 6: of sports teams you know, will support the local school galas,

1084
00:48:14,173 --> 00:48:16,333
Speaker 6: we'll do all of these things, which generally is involved

1085
00:48:16,373 --> 00:48:19,732
Speaker 6: in providing vouchers free of charge, all of those things

1086
00:48:19,773 --> 00:48:21,533
Speaker 6: at and we want to do that, right, We want

1087
00:48:21,573 --> 00:48:24,573
Speaker 6: to be supportive of our community in that respect. But

1088
00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:26,613
Speaker 6: all of those things are added costs as well, So

1089
00:48:26,693 --> 00:48:29,373
Speaker 6: there's a lot of stuff that as then you will

1090
00:48:30,293 --> 00:48:33,413
Speaker 6: the hospital business is because it's so enstring it in

1091
00:48:33,493 --> 00:48:36,253
Speaker 6: our communities, people just naturally think that it will always

1092
00:48:36,293 --> 00:48:38,813
Speaker 6: be there. But the reality is if people aren't going

1093
00:48:38,853 --> 00:48:41,172
Speaker 6: out there and supporting them, but they're continuing to ask

1094
00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:43,973
Speaker 6: for things, eventually they're not going to stick around. They

1095
00:48:44,293 --> 00:48:46,493
Speaker 6: won't be able to afford to And when it goes to.

1096
00:48:46,613 --> 00:48:48,333
Speaker 2: Our community, because there's one that's just gone for my

1097
00:48:48,413 --> 00:48:51,573
Speaker 2: community and it just leaves a massive whole. And as

1098
00:48:51,653 --> 00:48:54,773
Speaker 2: I was saying before, Mal, when you are buying a property,

1099
00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:59,173
Speaker 2: the brochure selling the house talks all about the cafes,

1100
00:48:59,253 --> 00:49:02,652
Speaker 2: restaurants and bars in the area. That's the selling point.

1101
00:49:03,613 --> 00:49:06,813
Speaker 2: And because if you move into an area, you want

1102
00:49:06,893 --> 00:49:08,613
Speaker 2: those kind of things. That makes it more than just

1103
00:49:08,653 --> 00:49:10,613
Speaker 2: a bunch of houses on streets. It makes it, it

1104
00:49:10,693 --> 00:49:13,133
Speaker 2: makes it a village, it makes it more of a community.

1105
00:49:13,253 --> 00:49:16,413
Speaker 2: So when they go, it's it leaves a huge hole.

1106
00:49:17,013 --> 00:49:17,133
Speaker 5: You know.

1107
00:49:18,693 --> 00:49:21,413
Speaker 6: We've been very fortunate enough this year. We've done very

1108
00:49:21,453 --> 00:49:23,373
Speaker 6: well and we were we won a great award at

1109
00:49:23,373 --> 00:49:26,413
Speaker 6: the National Hospitality Awards, and I've seen being picked out

1110
00:49:26,493 --> 00:49:26,893
Speaker 6: what are you?

1111
00:49:27,093 --> 00:49:28,573
Speaker 2: What are you called? What's your what's the name of

1112
00:49:28,613 --> 00:49:29,253
Speaker 2: your establishment?

1113
00:49:29,333 --> 00:49:34,533
Speaker 6: Mal We're have a kedgroom in magatoona Hamilton. We're very lucky.

1114
00:49:34,613 --> 00:49:38,973
Speaker 6: We won out the best Local Business puzzle or Hospitality

1115
00:49:38,973 --> 00:49:42,133
Speaker 6: Business in New Zealand this year. So I've seen exactly that.

1116
00:49:42,173 --> 00:49:44,812
Speaker 6: I've seen us in a number of real estate ads

1117
00:49:45,133 --> 00:49:48,253
Speaker 6: for exactly that reason, because people want to use what

1118
00:49:48,453 --> 00:49:51,493
Speaker 6: other great businesses are doing to help sell their product.

1119
00:49:51,573 --> 00:49:51,692
Speaker 8: Right.

1120
00:49:51,933 --> 00:49:54,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could wave a magic wand mail, what

1121
00:49:54,853 --> 00:49:57,533
Speaker 3: would be the one thing you'd want to change in

1122
00:49:57,693 --> 00:49:59,613
Speaker 3: terms of supporting hospital.

1123
00:50:02,493 --> 00:50:06,213
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, there are so many things I would

1124
00:50:07,173 --> 00:50:10,093
Speaker 6: I would love for pe people too. We're in a

1125
00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:12,133
Speaker 6: time where people have got to make some really hard

1126
00:50:12,213 --> 00:50:14,213
Speaker 6: calls about what they want to spend their money on,

1127
00:50:14,653 --> 00:50:17,212
Speaker 6: and I would love if I had absolutely infinite money

1128
00:50:17,253 --> 00:50:18,973
Speaker 6: for everybody. I would love everyone just strybut to come

1129
00:50:18,973 --> 00:50:20,933
Speaker 6: to the public you know, a couple of times a week.

1130
00:50:21,613 --> 00:50:24,173
Speaker 6: What we're seeing at the moment as people come and

1131
00:50:24,253 --> 00:50:26,212
Speaker 6: they used to buy two, three or four beers when

1132
00:50:26,213 --> 00:50:29,773
Speaker 6: they've come out, now realistically it's one, maybe two, and

1133
00:50:29,813 --> 00:50:32,013
Speaker 6: they're very conscious about that. You know, they'll come out

1134
00:50:32,133 --> 00:50:34,413
Speaker 6: for the specials and things like that which we use

1135
00:50:34,493 --> 00:50:36,732
Speaker 6: to draw people in in the hope they'll spend other money.

1136
00:50:37,253 --> 00:50:39,613
Speaker 6: But people can't realistically afford that at the moment. So

1137
00:50:39,933 --> 00:50:41,893
Speaker 6: if I could get the whole country out of this decision,

1138
00:50:41,973 --> 00:50:42,933
Speaker 6: then I would be very.

1139
00:50:42,933 --> 00:50:44,853
Speaker 2: Happy with that. We'd all like to get out of

1140
00:50:44,893 --> 00:50:47,533
Speaker 2: this position. If we could police, they'd be fantastic. Mel

1141
00:50:47,813 --> 00:50:49,653
Speaker 2: What about something like this, because we've talked about this

1142
00:50:49,733 --> 00:50:51,493
Speaker 2: on the show before. It seems a little unfear to

1143
00:50:51,613 --> 00:50:57,133
Speaker 2: me that bars restaurants pay pay the same excise tax

1144
00:50:57,213 --> 00:50:59,853
Speaker 2: on alcohol as an off license, and off license doesn't

1145
00:50:59,853 --> 00:51:02,333
Speaker 2: provide security, it doesn't find a place for people to

1146
00:51:02,413 --> 00:51:07,373
Speaker 2: go and drink, and you know has outsized social you know,

1147
00:51:08,533 --> 00:51:10,933
Speaker 2: poor outcomes from alcohol. That's you know, if someone goes

1148
00:51:10,973 --> 00:51:13,853
Speaker 2: and buys fire bottles of gin from a bottle store.

1149
00:51:14,213 --> 00:51:16,093
Speaker 2: So do you think that's something that that the government

1150
00:51:16,133 --> 00:51:19,853
Speaker 2: should look at that because you have to be responsible hosts,

1151
00:51:19,853 --> 00:51:22,293
Speaker 2: you have to spend all this money around the alcohol

1152
00:51:22,333 --> 00:51:26,133
Speaker 2: you sell, that potentially you shouldn't be playing the same

1153
00:51:26,773 --> 00:51:29,653
Speaker 2: exos tax, which is really seen as a way to

1154
00:51:29,693 --> 00:51:30,933
Speaker 2: deal with the damage of alcohol.

1155
00:51:32,173 --> 00:51:32,413
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1156
00:51:33,253 --> 00:51:36,533
Speaker 6: Absolutely, one hundred percent, without shadow of a doubt, being

1157
00:51:36,613 --> 00:51:38,533
Speaker 6: in a pub or an on license of some description

1158
00:51:38,733 --> 00:51:42,213
Speaker 6: is the safest place to consume because the compliance and

1159
00:51:42,253 --> 00:51:45,293
Speaker 6: the regulation costs that we endure each year to make

1160
00:51:45,293 --> 00:51:47,133
Speaker 6: sure our teams are trained to make sure we're handling

1161
00:51:47,173 --> 00:51:51,973
Speaker 6: those situations appropriately, that is really significant and quite a

1162
00:51:52,773 --> 00:51:54,453
Speaker 6: you know, it's a big part of what we have

1163
00:51:54,613 --> 00:51:57,253
Speaker 6: to do. So yes, absolutely, I mean I think it's

1164
00:51:57,373 --> 00:52:00,213
Speaker 6: quite an uneven playing field these days in terms of

1165
00:52:00,293 --> 00:52:03,453
Speaker 6: off license versus on license, and I think if we

1166
00:52:03,613 --> 00:52:07,773
Speaker 6: could be acknowledged for the extra expense and the effort

1167
00:52:07,813 --> 00:52:10,213
Speaker 6: that we got. We know, where people have a few drinks,

1168
00:52:11,613 --> 00:52:14,213
Speaker 6: we want people to feel comfortable to be in this

1169
00:52:14,413 --> 00:52:16,373
Speaker 6: environment to do so and have a great time and

1170
00:52:16,453 --> 00:52:18,133
Speaker 6: be social. I mean that's what we do, right, We

1171
00:52:18,253 --> 00:52:21,853
Speaker 6: want people having a great time. But if we're in

1172
00:52:21,933 --> 00:52:24,613
Speaker 6: a situation where they're coming into the venues having consumed

1173
00:52:24,613 --> 00:52:28,053
Speaker 6: an awful lot of alcohol beforehand because it's cheaper, and

1174
00:52:28,133 --> 00:52:30,133
Speaker 6: then they just want to come and enjoy the environment

1175
00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:32,973
Speaker 6: that we provide. That becomes a really difficult conversation that

1176
00:52:33,013 --> 00:52:35,653
Speaker 6: we have to have with customers, which is none of

1177
00:52:35,733 --> 00:52:37,853
Speaker 6: us like doing that. So if there was some way

1178
00:52:37,933 --> 00:52:40,933
Speaker 6: that we could make beer or wine or whatever it is,

1179
00:52:41,533 --> 00:52:43,413
Speaker 6: that we can make it cheaper to drink here than

1180
00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:45,853
Speaker 6: in a venue than it is to buy it in

1181
00:52:45,933 --> 00:52:50,293
Speaker 6: an off license, I think so many rights would sort

1182
00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:53,573
Speaker 6: themselves out with the uneven balance of harm that we've

1183
00:52:53,613 --> 00:52:54,772
Speaker 6: got in our communities at the moment.

1184
00:52:54,973 --> 00:52:57,093
Speaker 3: Now, you've been great to chat to. Thank you very much.

1185
00:52:57,133 --> 00:52:58,733
Speaker 3: All the best ghosts of the War book out the

1186
00:52:59,013 --> 00:53:01,653
Speaker 3: care groom. Yeah sounds like a good place, right is

1187
00:53:01,773 --> 00:53:03,773
Speaker 3: nineteen past two oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1188
00:53:03,853 --> 00:53:05,533
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Love your thoughts back in

1189
00:53:05,613 --> 00:53:06,093
Speaker 3: a mow.

1190
00:53:07,573 --> 00:53:11,692
Speaker 1: You're home of Afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

1191
00:53:11,973 --> 00:53:14,773
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty gen eighty News Talk.

1192
00:53:14,653 --> 00:53:19,413
Speaker 3: ZEDB, News Talk ZEDB. It is twenty two past two.

1193
00:53:19,453 --> 00:53:20,413
Speaker 3: Some great teach coming through.

1194
00:53:20,573 --> 00:53:22,253
Speaker 2: This is from Philippa. If there was one thing I

1195
00:53:22,293 --> 00:53:24,853
Speaker 2: would want to save small businesses in New Zealand, it

1196
00:53:24,853 --> 00:53:27,813
Speaker 2: would be to take wages out of the GST equation

1197
00:53:27,973 --> 00:53:31,133
Speaker 2: before work when you work out the GST. I know

1198
00:53:31,213 --> 00:53:33,693
Speaker 2: there's no GST on wages, but as far as I'm concerned,

1199
00:53:33,933 --> 00:53:37,653
Speaker 2: if we can't claim it, we have to pay it.

1200
00:53:38,533 --> 00:53:38,692
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1201
00:53:38,773 --> 00:53:39,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.

1202
00:53:39,773 --> 00:53:42,453
Speaker 2: Okay, nice topic, gents. Perhaps the Reserve Bank could lower

1203
00:53:42,493 --> 00:53:44,812
Speaker 2: interest rates to a reasonable percentage so that people feel

1204
00:53:44,853 --> 00:53:48,093
Speaker 2: comfortable spending a game, so that businesses can benefit as well.

1205
00:53:48,413 --> 00:53:51,493
Speaker 2: Now wouldn't that be radical, chairs, John, I mean that's

1206
00:53:51,533 --> 00:53:53,812
Speaker 2: what it. Let's list it again the Reserve Bank, didn't

1207
00:53:53,813 --> 00:53:56,693
Speaker 2: they They did? You know, we've got a new Reserve

1208
00:53:56,733 --> 00:53:59,093
Speaker 2: Bank governor, but he also missed the drop again.

1209
00:53:59,213 --> 00:54:01,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said it. They should have gone fifty.

1210
00:54:01,293 --> 00:54:02,973
Speaker 3: I think there was even calls for a hundi, and

1211
00:54:03,053 --> 00:54:04,733
Speaker 3: you're quite right. That's what it all comes down to.

1212
00:54:04,853 --> 00:54:07,093
Speaker 3: When you start having people feeling a bit richer and

1213
00:54:07,133 --> 00:54:08,733
Speaker 3: having more money in their pocket, then they'll go on

1214
00:54:08,733 --> 00:54:09,413
Speaker 3: support hospital.

1215
00:54:09,493 --> 00:54:11,253
Speaker 2: These people complaining about the cost of coffee do not

1216
00:54:11,653 --> 00:54:15,093
Speaker 2: realize everything you buy has a large markup to cover overheads.

1217
00:54:15,133 --> 00:54:17,493
Speaker 2: The T shirt you buy for say thirty dollars, didn't

1218
00:54:17,533 --> 00:54:19,653
Speaker 2: cost the company selling at twenty five dollars more like

1219
00:54:19,733 --> 00:54:22,293
Speaker 2: five dollars. So why can't a coffee shop sell coffee

1220
00:54:22,333 --> 00:54:24,213
Speaker 2: for six to seven bucks to cover their overheads and

1221
00:54:24,213 --> 00:54:26,213
Speaker 2: provide income for the people working at the cafes?

1222
00:54:26,333 --> 00:54:26,493
Speaker 5: Will?

1223
00:54:27,693 --> 00:54:29,493
Speaker 2: A whole lot of cafeers are saying that they should

1224
00:54:29,533 --> 00:54:31,413
Speaker 2: be charging seven or eight bucks, but people won't pay it.

1225
00:54:31,493 --> 00:54:33,853
Speaker 2: So they're in this catch twenty two situation where they

1226
00:54:33,933 --> 00:54:39,013
Speaker 2: need to increase how much they charge to so they

1227
00:54:39,093 --> 00:54:43,053
Speaker 2: can break even or potentially pay themselves. But they can't

1228
00:54:43,093 --> 00:54:45,973
Speaker 2: do that because people won't come and spend that much money.

1229
00:54:46,213 --> 00:54:48,933
Speaker 2: And that's why you've got all these businesses shutting. Yeah, exactly,

1230
00:54:49,013 --> 00:54:51,692
Speaker 2: we have the problem open and working your ass off

1231
00:54:51,733 --> 00:54:56,253
Speaker 2: to lose money. Yeah, will come back to Sarah very shortly.

1232
00:54:58,173 --> 00:54:59,733
Speaker 2: You put your hand up. What do you want to say?

1233
00:54:59,853 --> 00:55:00,172
Speaker 2: Young man?

1234
00:55:00,293 --> 00:55:02,292
Speaker 3: On the time? Lord, So let's come back with Sarah.

1235
00:55:02,293 --> 00:55:04,653
Speaker 3: Sarah's going to be interesting to chat to. So Sarah

1236
00:55:05,253 --> 00:55:08,973
Speaker 3: believes we may need to lean in onto to turn

1237
00:55:09,013 --> 00:55:10,732
Speaker 3: this around. So this is going to be good. That's

1238
00:55:10,773 --> 00:55:12,413
Speaker 3: coming up. But we're taking your calls as well. Oh,

1239
00:55:12,453 --> 00:55:14,573
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It is twenty four

1240
00:55:14,613 --> 00:55:15,013
Speaker 3: past two.

1241
00:55:15,133 --> 00:55:17,853
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, I'm nearly always good.

1242
00:55:18,253 --> 00:55:18,732
Speaker 5: You love it tip.

1243
00:55:18,813 --> 00:55:19,853
Speaker 2: I love giving people a tip.

1244
00:55:19,933 --> 00:55:20,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good times.

1245
00:55:24,813 --> 00:55:28,172
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1246
00:55:28,253 --> 00:55:31,173
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV afternoon.

1247
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:34,173
Speaker 3: We're talking about what it will take for hospitality businesses

1248
00:55:34,293 --> 00:55:36,973
Speaker 3: to turn around and if you're in the game, what

1249
00:55:37,293 --> 00:55:38,893
Speaker 3: do you want the public of New Zealand to know

1250
00:55:38,933 --> 00:55:40,213
Speaker 3: about the challenges you're facing.

1251
00:55:40,493 --> 00:55:43,133
Speaker 2: The sex says my Massilona cafe for seven years. She

1252
00:55:43,253 --> 00:55:45,613
Speaker 2: sold it about two years ago. She said when she

1253
00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:47,853
Speaker 2: sold a coffee it needed to be at least eight

1254
00:55:47,973 --> 00:55:50,213
Speaker 2: dollars to make money on it. Yeah, yeah, I mean

1255
00:55:50,253 --> 00:55:52,172
Speaker 2: so that's the thing. People complaining that the prices are

1256
00:55:52,213 --> 00:55:56,573
Speaker 2: too high in cafes, bars, restaurants, but the people that

1257
00:55:56,573 --> 00:55:59,252
Speaker 2: actually work there say that the costs are so high

1258
00:55:59,373 --> 00:56:01,133
Speaker 2: that they actually need to be charging more.

1259
00:56:01,213 --> 00:56:03,093
Speaker 3: We're ripping them off, but they can't.

1260
00:56:03,373 --> 00:56:03,493
Speaker 5: Now.

1261
00:56:03,533 --> 00:56:06,293
Speaker 3: We mentioned Sarah before and she's on the line now. Afternoon.

1262
00:56:06,373 --> 00:56:13,533
Speaker 19: Sarah there, thanks for thanks for talking to me. Okay,

1263
00:56:14,733 --> 00:56:16,973
Speaker 19: I was just listening to your previous caller I'm not

1264
00:56:17,093 --> 00:56:22,013
Speaker 19: actually in hospital currently at my currently myself, but when

1265
00:56:22,253 --> 00:56:25,733
Speaker 19: I used to live in South Africa and I worked

1266
00:56:25,853 --> 00:56:29,333
Speaker 19: as a waitress then a long time ago, we all

1267
00:56:29,493 --> 00:56:32,773
Speaker 19: used to work purely on just tips and it worked

1268
00:56:32,813 --> 00:56:35,733
Speaker 19: really well. Like we used to get paid amazing money,

1269
00:56:36,693 --> 00:56:39,533
Speaker 19: you know, like big groups of business people would come

1270
00:56:39,613 --> 00:56:42,213
Speaker 19: in and they would just you know, throw money around

1271
00:56:42,253 --> 00:56:46,453
Speaker 19: and we did really well. And the the the restaurant

1272
00:56:46,493 --> 00:56:48,693
Speaker 19: owners never had to pay us a thing, but we

1273
00:56:48,813 --> 00:56:51,213
Speaker 19: all got individual tips. There was no like job that

1274
00:56:51,333 --> 00:56:54,973
Speaker 19: you shared the money around, right, And I mean, I

1275
00:56:55,413 --> 00:56:58,333
Speaker 19: know that the laws in New Zealand are very strict

1276
00:56:58,453 --> 00:57:01,013
Speaker 19: and and might not allow for that, but I don't know.

1277
00:57:01,093 --> 00:57:05,133
Speaker 19: Maybe there's some way that you know, staff could somehow

1278
00:57:05,213 --> 00:57:09,652
Speaker 19: be contracted to the hospitality places if there's some sort

1279
00:57:09,693 --> 00:57:11,253
Speaker 19: of loophole or something.

1280
00:57:11,773 --> 00:57:13,613
Speaker 2: Sarah, when you were in that position where there was it,

1281
00:57:13,693 --> 00:57:16,053
Speaker 2: were there nights when you got a lot, of nights

1282
00:57:16,213 --> 00:57:19,013
Speaker 2: when you got very little. Was there a consistency the

1283
00:57:19,093 --> 00:57:21,693
Speaker 2: amount you got paid here? Yeah?

1284
00:57:21,813 --> 00:57:25,213
Speaker 19: No, no, absolutely there was that, But I mean, like

1285
00:57:25,413 --> 00:57:27,453
Speaker 19: all in all, it would even out, like some nights

1286
00:57:27,493 --> 00:57:30,053
Speaker 19: you'd get paid really a lot, and then other nights

1287
00:57:30,093 --> 00:57:32,093
Speaker 19: you would have a bad night, but that was just

1288
00:57:32,253 --> 00:57:34,373
Speaker 19: that sort of just went with the territory. Yeah, and

1289
00:57:34,613 --> 00:57:37,053
Speaker 19: we all just went along with it. I mean heaps

1290
00:57:37,093 --> 00:57:40,693
Speaker 19: of us. We all we all waitressed and waited in

1291
00:57:40,813 --> 00:57:42,533
Speaker 19: all the restaurants, you know, when we were in our

1292
00:57:42,613 --> 00:57:45,093
Speaker 19: sort of student years, and we all did well. We

1293
00:57:45,213 --> 00:57:48,413
Speaker 19: were all happy, and yeah, it worked, it worked really

1294
00:57:48,493 --> 00:57:52,413
Speaker 19: really well. I mean at the moment, I'm in retail

1295
00:57:52,453 --> 00:57:55,573
Speaker 19: as well, I'm a head dresser, and you know, I'd

1296
00:57:55,653 --> 00:57:56,653
Speaker 19: love to open a cell on.

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Speaker 17: But the other thing, like.

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Speaker 19: Your previous caller was saying, rents are so high, Like

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00:58:02,093 --> 00:58:04,493
Speaker 19: if rents were just a little bit lower, I would

1300
00:58:04,533 --> 00:58:07,213
Speaker 19: totally go and open up a cell on tomorrow. But

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00:58:07,493 --> 00:58:09,773
Speaker 19: the only model that would probably work for me who

1302
00:58:09,813 --> 00:58:12,693
Speaker 19: would want to open a small saleine in a suburban

1303
00:58:12,813 --> 00:58:17,093
Speaker 19: area would be me taking on the whole rent myself,

1304
00:58:17,293 --> 00:58:20,013
Speaker 19: or buying a small place and then renting the cheese

1305
00:58:20,093 --> 00:58:23,213
Speaker 19: out to people who already have clients. Yeah, the only

1306
00:58:23,733 --> 00:58:26,693
Speaker 19: model that you would sort of almost be comfortable enough

1307
00:58:26,813 --> 00:58:29,933
Speaker 19: and brave enough to take on just purely because rents

1308
00:58:29,933 --> 00:58:30,613
Speaker 19: are so high.

1309
00:58:30,933 --> 00:58:33,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, Sarah, we're going back to the going back

1310
00:58:33,413 --> 00:58:36,573
Speaker 2: to the tipping. So yeah, you know, when you went

1311
00:58:36,613 --> 00:58:38,853
Speaker 2: into working, you knew you were working for tips. I

1312
00:58:38,933 --> 00:58:42,013
Speaker 2: guess that's a huge motivation to just be the best

1313
00:58:42,613 --> 00:58:43,893
Speaker 2: service provider.

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00:58:43,533 --> 00:58:44,253
Speaker 3: You possibly can.

1315
00:58:45,493 --> 00:58:45,693
Speaker 18: Yes.

1316
00:58:45,853 --> 00:58:48,853
Speaker 19: Absolutely, I mean we were all we were all really

1317
00:58:48,933 --> 00:58:53,693
Speaker 19: ontoed because the more the better you were, the more

1318
00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:56,773
Speaker 19: tips you got. So it made for excellent customer like

1319
00:58:57,053 --> 00:58:59,493
Speaker 19: customer service, you know, I mean it was. I mean

1320
00:58:59,493 --> 00:59:01,133
Speaker 19: even if you go to South Africa now and you

1321
00:59:01,213 --> 00:59:05,253
Speaker 19: go to the restaurants there, it's amazing, divine food. Most

1322
00:59:05,293 --> 00:59:09,293
Speaker 19: places are so clean, the staff are so and amazing.

1323
00:59:09,413 --> 00:59:11,533
Speaker 19: Because I don't know if it's store works like that,

1324
00:59:11,653 --> 00:59:14,973
Speaker 19: but I'm assuming it must do, or very very small

1325
00:59:15,053 --> 00:59:18,493
Speaker 19: minimum wage and then you kind of you know, you

1326
00:59:18,573 --> 00:59:20,533
Speaker 19: get tips on top of that. But it's definitely tipped

1327
00:59:20,533 --> 00:59:21,253
Speaker 19: in culture there.

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00:59:21,973 --> 00:59:23,933
Speaker 2: Think if you call Sarah, Yeah, so the minimum wage

1329
00:59:23,973 --> 00:59:25,613
Speaker 2: in New Zealand's twenty three fifty, so you can't get

1330
00:59:25,613 --> 00:59:28,093
Speaker 2: around that. No, so you can't have someone working in

1331
00:59:28,133 --> 00:59:29,253
Speaker 2: the air just for tips.

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00:59:29,173 --> 00:59:32,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I mean it is controversial tipping, and a

1333
00:59:32,893 --> 00:59:35,573
Speaker 3: lot of people push back on it. I mean, I

1334
00:59:35,653 --> 00:59:39,173
Speaker 3: know you do it a lot, and I tend not to.

1335
00:59:39,733 --> 00:59:43,333
Speaker 3: I tip my Uber drivers. You are stingy exiftly stingy,

1336
00:59:43,613 --> 00:59:45,773
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I tip the Uber drivers because

1337
00:59:45,773 --> 00:59:48,653
Speaker 3: I actually think, genuinely they work very hard for bugger

1338
00:59:48,693 --> 00:59:51,133
Speaker 3: all money and Uber takes the line share of that

1339
00:59:51,213 --> 00:59:53,613
Speaker 3: and the restaurants get dicked as well. But when I'm

1340
00:59:53,613 --> 00:59:55,613
Speaker 3: sitting in a restaurant and I have a lovely dinner

1341
00:59:55,693 --> 00:59:56,933
Speaker 3: and I go up there and you've got to go

1342
00:59:56,973 --> 00:59:59,733
Speaker 3: through that process, and it, you know, thus standing there,

1343
00:59:59,773 --> 01:00:01,253
Speaker 3: it's really awkward, and then it pops up on the

1344
01:00:01,813 --> 01:00:03,693
Speaker 3: FOS machine, would you like to give a tip? And

1345
01:00:03,733 --> 01:00:06,253
Speaker 3: they look you did in the eyes and I just go, no,

1346
01:00:07,373 --> 01:00:09,213
Speaker 3: you feel like a bad But I don't know.

1347
01:00:09,333 --> 01:00:12,093
Speaker 2: It's sometimes you're in a place and they'll flick past

1348
01:00:12,173 --> 01:00:15,493
Speaker 2: that themselves. Yes, but if it's been really good service,

1349
01:00:15,613 --> 01:00:19,333
Speaker 2: I feel really good giving the place a tip. When

1350
01:00:19,373 --> 01:00:23,093
Speaker 2: it's been really, really really good service and I like

1351
01:00:23,213 --> 01:00:25,093
Speaker 2: the place and I want to support it, it feels

1352
01:00:25,173 --> 01:00:27,293
Speaker 2: it feels it feels good for me. But you know,

1353
01:00:27,333 --> 01:00:30,133
Speaker 2: when you go to the United States, the service is

1354
01:00:30,373 --> 01:00:34,693
Speaker 2: just absolutely phenomenally good because of the tipping, very true

1355
01:00:34,933 --> 01:00:37,053
Speaker 2: to the point where you think that they might love

1356
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:40,213
Speaker 2: you and want to be your friend for life, and

1357
01:00:40,733 --> 01:00:43,613
Speaker 2: you are being played because they want a big tip. Sure,

1358
01:00:43,773 --> 01:00:47,213
Speaker 2: but it feels very very good. And of course, as

1359
01:00:47,253 --> 01:00:49,773
Speaker 2: that law come through you where they're where they're removing

1360
01:00:50,613 --> 01:00:53,013
Speaker 2: tax from tips in the United States. But I had this.

1361
01:00:53,813 --> 01:00:55,173
Speaker 2: I was staying with some people in the States and

1362
01:00:55,293 --> 01:00:58,613
Speaker 2: relatives and there was a one of the people there.

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Speaker 2: She has a degree, quite a high higher level degree.

1364
01:01:02,653 --> 01:01:06,013
Speaker 2: But she also works in a bar, and it's a

1365
01:01:06,093 --> 01:01:07,893
Speaker 2: bar where a lot of rich people go, and she

1366
01:01:08,013 --> 01:01:10,213
Speaker 2: cannot leave the bar because she makes so much money

1367
01:01:10,213 --> 01:01:13,373
Speaker 2: from tips that it's not worth her using her degree. Yeah,

1368
01:01:13,413 --> 01:01:15,373
Speaker 2: this is not worth it. She she'd have to take

1369
01:01:15,373 --> 01:01:17,693
Speaker 2: a pay cut to go into her profession now after

1370
01:01:17,733 --> 01:01:19,533
Speaker 2: spending a lot of money getting the degree. So that's

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01:01:19,613 --> 01:01:22,093
Speaker 2: unred If you get the right bar and you look

1372
01:01:22,173 --> 01:01:25,413
Speaker 2: the right way, then you can make a hell of

1373
01:01:25,413 --> 01:01:26,973
Speaker 2: a lot of money from tips catching right.

1374
01:01:27,013 --> 01:01:28,773
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1375
01:01:28,813 --> 01:01:30,333
Speaker 3: to call love to hear your thoughts about how we

1376
01:01:30,453 --> 01:01:33,013
Speaker 3: turn a hospital around and tipping culture in New Zealand.

1377
01:01:33,053 --> 01:01:35,253
Speaker 3: Is that something we need to lean into. It is

1378
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Speaker 3: twenty eight to three.

1379
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Speaker 15: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1380
01:01:42,133 --> 01:01:45,253
Speaker 15: no trouble with a Blue Bubble please say they'll continue

1381
01:01:45,333 --> 01:01:48,253
Speaker 15: to look into Tom Phillips's mindset. Following what they think

1382
01:01:48,373 --> 01:01:52,293
Speaker 15: is another sighting of the Matacopa fugitive. CCTV footage shows

1383
01:01:52,373 --> 01:01:54,413
Speaker 15: what they believe to be Phillips and one of his

1384
01:01:54,573 --> 01:01:57,253
Speaker 15: three children carrying out a burglary at a shop in

1385
01:01:57,293 --> 01:02:00,453
Speaker 15: the King Country town of Poor Pure. The man who

1386
01:02:00,573 --> 01:02:03,533
Speaker 15: murdered christ Church real estate agent Yan Feibal and twenty

1387
01:02:03,573 --> 01:02:07,893
Speaker 15: twenty three is appealing his conviction and sentence. Chinese national

1388
01:02:08,013 --> 01:02:10,893
Speaker 15: tingj Unchow was sentenced to life in prison with a

1389
01:02:10,973 --> 01:02:15,213
Speaker 15: minimum non parole period of seventeen years six months. A

1390
01:02:15,333 --> 01:02:19,573
Speaker 15: dramatic financial turnaround for TV and ZET, the state owned broadcaster,

1391
01:02:19,773 --> 01:02:22,533
Speaker 15: has confirmed it's paying the government a dividend for the

1392
01:02:22,653 --> 01:02:26,813
Speaker 15: first time in recent years. Rising costs are forcing Napier

1393
01:02:26,893 --> 01:02:30,813
Speaker 15: City Council to explore leasing out to community facilities. The

1394
01:02:30,893 --> 01:02:34,053
Speaker 15: council wants to keep Kennedy Park and Ocean Spa open

1395
01:02:34,173 --> 01:02:37,293
Speaker 15: and available to the public. No sale is planned and

1396
01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:41,173
Speaker 15: they'll be full community consultation and the Crown's Cook Straight

1397
01:02:41,293 --> 01:02:44,493
Speaker 15: Ferry Buying Company has an eleven million dollar shopping list.

1398
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Speaker 15: To find out more at NZ Herald Premium now back

1399
01:02:46,893 --> 01:02:48,173
Speaker 15: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Scarletts. We are talking about the

1401
01:02:50,813 --> 01:02:54,093
Speaker 3: hospitality industry and a caller mention before a big tipping

1402
01:02:54,173 --> 01:02:57,493
Speaker 3: culture in South Africa which seems to work pretty well

1403
01:02:57,573 --> 01:03:01,173
Speaker 3: in encouraging and enticing workers into the business. But is

1404
01:03:01,253 --> 01:03:04,453
Speaker 3: that something we want in New Zealand. Always controversial, the

1405
01:03:04,573 --> 01:03:07,013
Speaker 3: idea of tipping. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1406
01:03:07,133 --> 01:03:07,933
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

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01:03:08,613 --> 01:03:08,813
Speaker 5: Yes.

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01:03:08,813 --> 01:03:11,093
Speaker 2: So I'm getting a lot of pushback from my positive

1409
01:03:11,173 --> 01:03:14,613
Speaker 2: talks on tipping, saying that you were supporting slavery. A

1410
01:03:14,693 --> 01:03:16,853
Speaker 2: bunch of people said that no, because I mean, you

1411
01:03:16,853 --> 01:03:18,533
Speaker 2: wouldn't work there unless you were getting good tips.

1412
01:03:18,693 --> 01:03:20,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and as you said, we've already got

1413
01:03:20,733 --> 01:03:22,853
Speaker 3: the minimum wage, there wouldn't be any talk of right,

1414
01:03:22,893 --> 01:03:24,613
Speaker 3: we're going to slash the minimum wage and bring We've

1415
01:03:24,613 --> 01:03:27,653
Speaker 3: already got tipping here. It's voluntary, and it is voluntary

1416
01:03:27,693 --> 01:03:28,053
Speaker 3: in a way.

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01:03:28,173 --> 01:03:29,533
Speaker 2: But if you go if you go for the American

1418
01:03:29,573 --> 01:03:32,173
Speaker 2: model where you pay a very small base rate and

1419
01:03:32,333 --> 01:03:35,333
Speaker 2: then people make their money, that makes it worth turning

1420
01:03:35,453 --> 01:03:37,653
Speaker 2: up on the tips. Right, Yeah, but you go to

1421
01:03:37,773 --> 01:03:40,973
Speaker 2: I went to a really flash restaurant in Chicago once

1422
01:03:41,213 --> 01:03:42,973
Speaker 2: and the guy that was serving was in a tucks

1423
01:03:43,493 --> 01:03:46,933
Speaker 2: and was really flash place, and I had a few

1424
01:03:47,413 --> 01:03:51,213
Speaker 2: wines and I asked him, you know, you know, you've

1425
01:03:51,253 --> 01:03:53,333
Speaker 2: got a nice suit on. How much do you and

1426
01:03:54,173 --> 01:03:55,613
Speaker 2: I asked it in a more subtle way than this,

1427
01:03:55,693 --> 01:03:57,733
Speaker 2: but how much they pay you? It goes very little,

1428
01:03:58,053 --> 01:04:00,093
Speaker 2: But I make I make all my money on tips

1429
01:04:00,093 --> 01:04:01,053
Speaker 2: and I make a very good living.

1430
01:04:01,213 --> 01:04:03,213
Speaker 3: That was That was a nice hint to you as well. Yeah,

1431
01:04:04,333 --> 01:04:08,773
Speaker 3: make sure you tip well, Jimmy, you're a Wellington hospit owner.

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01:04:09,493 --> 01:04:11,493
Speaker 4: And again a guys a lot of the show. And

1433
01:04:11,733 --> 01:04:14,053
Speaker 4: I look the coller that rang about a five dollars

1434
01:04:14,093 --> 01:04:16,093
Speaker 4: fifty reminds me of the Yeah put the kids in

1435
01:04:16,133 --> 01:04:22,333
Speaker 4: this hamper with the Aussie. He's dreaming. He's dreaming. Look,

1436
01:04:22,373 --> 01:04:24,613
Speaker 4: you only have to look at the costs on just

1437
01:04:24,653 --> 01:04:28,293
Speaker 4: to keep you in general, businesses face the same straight

1438
01:04:28,493 --> 01:04:31,893
Speaker 4: through the roof. Businesses, as part of the rental agreements,

1439
01:04:31,933 --> 01:04:35,893
Speaker 4: generally have to pay rates as a portion of that. Insurance.

1440
01:04:35,973 --> 01:04:38,413
Speaker 4: I think the news said it was up nine hundred

1441
01:04:38,413 --> 01:04:42,173
Speaker 4: and seventeen percent over the last ten years. So you know,

1442
01:04:42,333 --> 01:04:46,693
Speaker 4: insurance is a massive expense power for our business has

1443
01:04:46,853 --> 01:04:49,773
Speaker 4: just gone through the roof. Our monthly powerballs around three

1444
01:04:49,893 --> 01:04:51,693
Speaker 4: three and a half thousand dollars to give.

1445
01:04:51,573 --> 01:04:52,373
Speaker 12: You some context.

1446
01:04:53,293 --> 01:04:56,893
Speaker 4: And then your food costs just like everyone else, your

1447
01:04:56,933 --> 01:04:59,533
Speaker 4: butter and everything else that impacts on us. And often

1448
01:04:59,573 --> 01:05:02,093
Speaker 4: we can't put our prices up, you know, just week

1449
01:05:02,133 --> 01:05:05,093
Speaker 4: by week as butter goes up. You know, this week

1450
01:05:05,133 --> 01:05:06,813
Speaker 4: it goes up, you put your price up. Next week

1451
01:05:06,853 --> 01:05:08,973
Speaker 4: it goes up, you put your price up. Can't do that,

1452
01:05:09,413 --> 01:05:13,573
Speaker 4: so you end up absorbing all of those costs, and

1453
01:05:14,253 --> 01:05:17,373
Speaker 4: it makes it very hard to make a profit. I've

1454
01:05:17,733 --> 01:05:19,973
Speaker 4: been in the industry for thirty odd years. I started

1455
01:05:20,013 --> 01:05:23,733
Speaker 4: when I was fourteen as an after school job, and

1456
01:05:23,853 --> 01:05:27,773
Speaker 4: it's harder now than ever to be profitable. So you know,

1457
01:05:27,853 --> 01:05:30,933
Speaker 4: anyone that thinks that hospital owners are making a truckload

1458
01:05:30,973 --> 01:05:34,093
Speaker 4: of money, I can tell you they're not driving around

1459
01:05:34,173 --> 01:05:38,533
Speaker 4: in Bentley's and in living in mansions, that's for sure.

1460
01:05:38,853 --> 01:05:41,413
Speaker 2: So there's the times for the year where you are

1461
01:05:41,813 --> 01:05:46,413
Speaker 2: just losing money to stay afloat for the good times

1462
01:05:46,453 --> 01:05:47,693
Speaker 2: and hoping that the good times will.

1463
01:05:47,573 --> 01:05:50,533
Speaker 4: Come, not for us. So I think there's different there's

1464
01:05:50,573 --> 01:05:53,613
Speaker 4: definitely different business models out there. What I find for

1465
01:05:53,773 --> 01:05:56,893
Speaker 4: our particular. You know, when I say business Molls, you've

1466
01:05:56,893 --> 01:06:00,053
Speaker 4: got bars, you've got restaurants, you've got eateries, cafes, bakeries,

1467
01:06:01,133 --> 01:06:03,333
Speaker 4: and I think, yeah, that's probably something that we've found

1468
01:06:03,413 --> 01:06:05,733
Speaker 4: over the years is that you have used to be

1469
01:06:05,813 --> 01:06:07,933
Speaker 4: able to just have a model and it works. I'd

1470
01:06:07,973 --> 01:06:10,413
Speaker 4: say you've got to be more dynamic as a business

1471
01:06:10,893 --> 01:06:13,653
Speaker 4: and change with the times. A really good example that

1472
01:06:13,853 --> 01:06:17,293
Speaker 4: is today's in today's day and agent's are very sort

1473
01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:21,013
Speaker 4: of an Instagram type of generation. And if you want

1474
01:06:21,053 --> 01:06:23,493
Speaker 4: to stay relevant, you've got to kind of move with

1475
01:06:23,573 --> 01:06:26,893
Speaker 4: some of that stuff. And as where you know, i'd

1476
01:06:26,893 --> 01:06:30,173
Speaker 4: say in terms of staying afloat, which we know we're

1477
01:06:30,253 --> 01:06:35,413
Speaker 4: doing okay, is that you've got to consistently evaluate that

1478
01:06:35,573 --> 01:06:38,133
Speaker 4: model and say as a working for us. You know,

1479
01:06:38,453 --> 01:06:42,013
Speaker 4: many hospital owners are guilty of not actually looking at

1480
01:06:42,053 --> 01:06:44,613
Speaker 4: their costs and saying are we actually making money on this?

1481
01:06:45,533 --> 01:06:48,173
Speaker 4: As someone said earlier, you've got people coming in wanting

1482
01:06:48,253 --> 01:06:52,333
Speaker 4: donations for you know, everything left, right and center, sponsorship

1483
01:06:52,413 --> 01:06:55,053
Speaker 4: for school kids. You've got, you know, give you some

1484
01:06:55,213 --> 01:06:58,533
Speaker 4: examples around cost of businesses that that person that makes

1485
01:06:58,533 --> 01:07:01,173
Speaker 4: a coffee at home, right have a customer turns to

1486
01:07:01,213 --> 01:07:04,413
Speaker 4: walk away, drops their plate in their cup. They don't

1487
01:07:04,453 --> 01:07:07,213
Speaker 4: pay for that. We pay for that, and often we'll

1488
01:07:07,253 --> 01:07:09,333
Speaker 4: pay for the replacement for it as well, because we'd

1489
01:07:09,373 --> 01:07:11,333
Speaker 4: like to look after our customers, of course.

1490
01:07:12,773 --> 01:07:16,053
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, and what about how punishing is

1491
01:07:16,053 --> 01:07:17,893
Speaker 2: the staff situation, because we've got a bunch of texts

1492
01:07:17,893 --> 01:07:21,013
Speaker 2: coming through with the even part time staff getting ten

1493
01:07:21,133 --> 01:07:25,693
Speaker 2: sick days, and staff and hospitals not just not turning

1494
01:07:25,813 --> 01:07:27,773
Speaker 2: up all that people.

1495
01:07:28,413 --> 01:07:31,573
Speaker 4: I say to people that you know, making a coffee

1496
01:07:31,693 --> 01:07:35,333
Speaker 4: or or making a pire or something like that is

1497
01:07:35,333 --> 01:07:38,413
Speaker 4: the easiest part of my business. Actually managing people is.

1498
01:07:38,413 --> 01:07:39,133
Speaker 12: The hardest part.

1499
01:07:39,573 --> 01:07:41,413
Speaker 4: We've got it. We've we've got a really good team.

1500
01:07:41,493 --> 01:07:43,973
Speaker 4: But I'd say that we've worked hard to build a

1501
01:07:44,013 --> 01:07:47,013
Speaker 4: good culture within our workplace. And I think it's like

1502
01:07:47,093 --> 01:07:49,093
Speaker 4: in any industry you've got good people, when you've got

1503
01:07:49,293 --> 01:07:51,533
Speaker 4: you've got good employees, and you've got bad ones, and

1504
01:07:51,613 --> 01:07:53,213
Speaker 4: you want to try and weed out the bad ones and.

1505
01:07:53,253 --> 01:07:53,613
Speaker 5: Move them on.

1506
01:07:54,173 --> 01:07:56,453
Speaker 4: Equally, you've got good employers and you've got ones that

1507
01:07:56,613 --> 01:08:00,653
Speaker 4: suck and shouldn't be in business and shouldn't be employing people.

1508
01:08:01,493 --> 01:08:03,453
Speaker 4: The one thing that I probably would so you know,

1509
01:08:03,613 --> 01:08:06,893
Speaker 4: in terms of employee. The employment side of things, it's

1510
01:08:06,973 --> 01:08:10,893
Speaker 4: the hardest part, in my opinion, of the industry, and

1511
01:08:11,093 --> 01:08:13,373
Speaker 4: the labor laws now are tougher than ever. They are

1512
01:08:13,413 --> 01:08:16,612
Speaker 4: in favor of the employee rather than the employer. And

1513
01:08:16,653 --> 01:08:19,333
Speaker 4: if you disagree with that, an employee can say get

1514
01:08:19,372 --> 01:08:21,933
Speaker 4: stuffed and walk out on the spot and you have

1515
01:08:22,013 --> 01:08:25,132
Speaker 4: to pay them up until the minute. And an employer

1516
01:08:25,333 --> 01:08:27,692
Speaker 4: can't do that. In return, they can't say get stuff,

1517
01:08:27,692 --> 01:08:29,973
Speaker 4: you're fired. And I'm not saying they should, but I'm

1518
01:08:30,053 --> 01:08:32,572
Speaker 4: just showing that the waiting is very much in favor

1519
01:08:32,612 --> 01:08:33,373
Speaker 4: of the employee.

1520
01:08:33,572 --> 01:08:36,492
Speaker 3: The balance is a yeah, absolutely so, Jimmy. So let's

1521
01:08:36,532 --> 01:08:39,213
Speaker 3: just use coffee as an example. So that's five dollars fifty.

1522
01:08:39,372 --> 01:08:41,093
Speaker 3: I mean, is there we got to the point now

1523
01:08:41,133 --> 01:08:42,572
Speaker 3: where it might be a lost leader for a lot

1524
01:08:42,612 --> 01:08:46,093
Speaker 3: of cafes and businesses, hospo businesses, or if there is

1525
01:08:46,133 --> 01:08:48,333
Speaker 3: a profit made, what would be the general profit made

1526
01:08:48,372 --> 01:08:49,612
Speaker 3: on a five dollars fifty coffee?

1527
01:08:50,333 --> 01:08:50,492
Speaker 9: Oh?

1528
01:08:50,732 --> 01:08:53,572
Speaker 4: Look, coffee has just gone up recently. And if anyone

1529
01:08:53,612 --> 01:08:57,772
Speaker 4: doesn't believe me, just google coffee prices. There was news

1530
01:08:57,933 --> 01:09:00,293
Speaker 4: articles that come out recently. I remember it used to

1531
01:09:00,372 --> 01:09:03,732
Speaker 4: be two dollars to make a cup of coffee. Again,

1532
01:09:03,853 --> 01:09:05,892
Speaker 4: a lot of these answers are complicated because it depends

1533
01:09:05,933 --> 01:09:10,253
Speaker 4: on your volume. So high volume, you know, really with coffee,

1534
01:09:10,253 --> 01:09:11,692
Speaker 4: you want to be doing big numbers. You want to

1535
01:09:11,732 --> 01:09:14,772
Speaker 4: be in fifteen, twenty twenty five kloads a week, and

1536
01:09:14,853 --> 01:09:17,293
Speaker 4: then that's where you start to make the money in volume.

1537
01:09:17,372 --> 01:09:21,013
Speaker 4: And if you're only making a few, yeah, look like

1538
01:09:21,093 --> 01:09:24,052
Speaker 4: crack up when people say, oh, you know, people should

1539
01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:26,812
Speaker 4: be paying being paid the living wage. Well, if everyone's

1540
01:09:26,853 --> 01:09:28,372
Speaker 4: paid the living wage, what do you think you're fat?

1541
01:09:28,372 --> 01:09:31,173
Speaker 4: Why it's going to cost now? You know, because immediately

1542
01:09:31,293 --> 01:09:33,812
Speaker 4: that's what is that something like twenty eight ninety now

1543
01:09:33,893 --> 01:09:35,293
Speaker 4: or something else in the twenty eighth I think for

1544
01:09:35,372 --> 01:09:38,293
Speaker 4: the living wage, I'm all for people. I say my start,

1545
01:09:38,532 --> 01:09:40,452
Speaker 4: I'll tell myself, I'll pay you thirty bucks an how

1546
01:09:40,452 --> 01:09:43,372
Speaker 4: if I can afford to. I have no issue around

1547
01:09:43,412 --> 01:09:46,093
Speaker 4: paying people those wages. The issue that I have is

1548
01:09:46,133 --> 01:09:49,293
Speaker 4: being able to do that and staying in business. So yeah,

1549
01:09:49,333 --> 01:09:52,293
Speaker 4: I honestly couldn't tell you the exact cost of a

1550
01:09:52,372 --> 01:09:56,053
Speaker 4: cup of coffee as of today, But what I can

1551
01:09:56,173 --> 01:09:58,693
Speaker 4: tell you is week to week in terms of overall

1552
01:10:00,053 --> 01:10:03,333
Speaker 4: you know, you. Generally, most hospital places won't be making

1553
01:10:03,492 --> 01:10:06,452
Speaker 4: you know, thousands of dollars a week. If they have,

1554
01:10:07,053 --> 01:10:08,333
Speaker 4: give me the number and I won't have a cheat

1555
01:10:08,412 --> 01:10:08,652
Speaker 4: to them.

1556
01:10:09,772 --> 01:10:12,333
Speaker 2: How many how many tips are you taking? You know

1557
01:10:12,732 --> 01:10:14,372
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people. Tipping in New Zealand

1558
01:10:14,572 --> 01:10:18,692
Speaker 2: is an actual figure that goes into your budgeting.

1559
01:10:19,973 --> 01:10:21,852
Speaker 4: Look, we have a tip down on the counter. I

1560
01:10:21,933 --> 01:10:24,652
Speaker 4: heard the caller earlier about my old tipping scenario experienced

1561
01:10:24,772 --> 01:10:27,732
Speaker 4: when I've been overseas. I don't really know enough about it.

1562
01:10:27,812 --> 01:10:29,892
Speaker 4: I don't know whether it would work. I mean, generally

1563
01:10:30,372 --> 01:10:33,053
Speaker 4: kivas are actually quite generous in New Zealand. On you

1564
01:10:33,093 --> 01:10:36,492
Speaker 4: have to look at give a little and community, you know,

1565
01:10:36,612 --> 01:10:39,532
Speaker 4: donations for community groups that we are actually quite a

1566
01:10:39,772 --> 01:10:43,053
Speaker 4: generous country. But I think when it comes to businesses,

1567
01:10:43,333 --> 01:10:46,173
Speaker 4: that's a very that's a culture shift, and it would

1568
01:10:46,253 --> 01:10:51,053
Speaker 4: take people to understand the value of tipping and and

1569
01:10:51,253 --> 01:10:56,052
Speaker 4: why I mean I I think from a business perspective,

1570
01:10:56,053 --> 01:10:58,133
Speaker 4: it's quite simple. You provide a good product at a

1571
01:10:58,173 --> 01:11:01,772
Speaker 4: fair price, and if you do that, you know you'll

1572
01:11:01,812 --> 01:11:04,893
Speaker 4: stay You'll stay in business. Now, there does come a

1573
01:11:04,933 --> 01:11:07,012
Speaker 4: point where I heard one of the callers earlier saying

1574
01:11:07,013 --> 01:11:08,932
Speaker 4: if you're having to choose between putting in your car

1575
01:11:09,093 --> 01:11:11,532
Speaker 4: or food on your table and getting a flat white.

1576
01:11:11,853 --> 01:11:14,612
Speaker 4: Then you know people are going to stop shopping, and

1577
01:11:14,732 --> 01:11:16,812
Speaker 4: so there is a point you can only push prices

1578
01:11:16,893 --> 01:11:19,893
Speaker 4: so far. In some of the businesses, I feel for

1579
01:11:19,893 --> 01:11:23,173
Speaker 4: them have probably done everything they can to try and

1580
01:11:23,253 --> 01:11:27,532
Speaker 4: pivot and change what they're doing, and they still go

1581
01:11:27,732 --> 01:11:30,293
Speaker 4: under I think a big part of that. You know,

1582
01:11:30,293 --> 01:11:32,173
Speaker 4: I haven't meted them. They've said this a few times

1583
01:11:32,812 --> 01:11:36,333
Speaker 4: as the government, and that's not any particular color of government,

1584
01:11:36,612 --> 01:11:41,333
Speaker 4: and probably more the actual the staff that sit behind

1585
01:11:41,372 --> 01:11:45,732
Speaker 4: it is probably way over regulated now. So you know,

1586
01:11:45,853 --> 01:11:48,173
Speaker 4: that person that's making a coffee at home doesn't have

1587
01:11:48,293 --> 01:11:51,053
Speaker 4: to check that packet of coffee when it or the

1588
01:11:51,133 --> 01:11:53,213
Speaker 4: milk when it arrives, and do a temperature chick and

1589
01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:55,972
Speaker 4: then right there on a clipboard and then do an audit.

1590
01:11:58,372 --> 01:12:03,532
Speaker 2: Absolutely who's died from a you know, you might might

1591
01:12:03,772 --> 01:12:06,372
Speaker 2: affect someone's slight when they come.

1592
01:12:06,853 --> 01:12:08,932
Speaker 4: All your children goods when they come the back door

1593
01:12:09,093 --> 01:12:11,532
Speaker 4: all have to be temper check, temperature checked, and they

1594
01:12:11,612 --> 01:12:14,412
Speaker 4: all have to be recorded. So was never like that

1595
01:12:14,612 --> 01:12:18,093
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, and so all their adds to your cost.

1596
01:12:18,412 --> 01:12:20,973
Speaker 4: So if you want to you want to know your product.

1597
01:12:20,692 --> 01:12:22,652
Speaker 2: Is Okay, that's a very easy way that the government

1598
01:12:22,692 --> 01:12:25,412
Speaker 2: could get out of the way and make it so

1599
01:12:25,692 --> 01:12:27,812
Speaker 2: such that people can stand business and employ people and

1600
01:12:27,893 --> 01:12:30,652
Speaker 2: pay some taxes. Hey, Jimmy, what was the name of

1601
01:12:30,732 --> 01:12:31,653
Speaker 2: your establishment?

1602
01:12:32,532 --> 01:12:35,892
Speaker 4: Oh, look, i'd stay under the radar. Okay, Yeah, we're

1603
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:38,732
Speaker 4: in the Wellington region, and look, I feel for everyone

1604
01:12:38,812 --> 01:12:43,772
Speaker 4: out there. Listeners. Support your local eateries and in cafes

1605
01:12:43,853 --> 01:12:45,973
Speaker 4: and that because when they're gone, they're gone and they

1606
01:12:46,013 --> 01:12:47,972
Speaker 4: are a real part of your community.

1607
01:12:48,013 --> 01:12:51,173
Speaker 3: February nicely said Jimmy, great to chat with you. Thank

1608
01:12:51,173 --> 01:12:53,732
Speaker 3: you very much. Go well, right, we're going to play

1609
01:12:53,772 --> 01:12:56,612
Speaker 3: some messages. But when we come back, plenty more calls

1610
01:12:56,652 --> 01:12:59,612
Speaker 3: to get to and a surprising amount of support for

1611
01:12:59,692 --> 01:13:00,173
Speaker 3: the tipping.

1612
01:13:00,412 --> 01:13:03,173
Speaker 2: Now, I'm very curious about what Jimmy's establishment was. Is

1613
01:13:03,213 --> 01:13:07,572
Speaker 2: it some kind of high end secret behind a door

1614
01:13:07,652 --> 01:13:07,933
Speaker 2: that you have.

1615
01:13:07,973 --> 01:13:11,293
Speaker 3: To know that speak easy? Yeah, now we're talking something.

1616
01:13:11,412 --> 01:13:14,293
Speaker 3: Just you know, Jimmy is nine two. We won't say anything.

1617
01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:16,692
Speaker 3: He doesn't need advertise his place. Give us as the bassword.

1618
01:13:16,933 --> 01:13:18,372
Speaker 3: It is fourteen to three.

1619
01:13:19,732 --> 01:13:23,853
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Man Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

1620
01:13:24,133 --> 01:13:27,012
Speaker 5: Call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, say'd

1621
01:13:27,053 --> 01:13:27,692
Speaker 5: be it's.

1622
01:13:27,532 --> 01:13:30,212
Speaker 3: Pretty good afternoon to you. It is eleven to three, Christopher,

1623
01:13:30,293 --> 01:13:30,652
Speaker 3: How are.

1624
01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:32,253
Speaker 7: You all right?

1625
01:13:32,293 --> 01:13:33,852
Speaker 20: I'm good? How are you guys doing.

1626
01:13:33,973 --> 01:13:36,612
Speaker 3: Fantastic on a Friday? Now, you reckon tipping might be

1627
01:13:36,772 --> 01:13:37,173
Speaker 3: the way to go.

1628
01:13:38,812 --> 01:13:40,772
Speaker 20: I think so, and I guess maybe just coming off

1629
01:13:40,853 --> 01:13:44,372
Speaker 20: that previous caller coming from South Africa as well. I

1630
01:13:44,452 --> 01:13:48,012
Speaker 20: grew up doing working in the hospital industry and working

1631
01:13:48,053 --> 01:13:51,732
Speaker 20: off tips. I started working before I was of legal age,

1632
01:13:51,732 --> 01:13:55,053
Speaker 20: I guess at about thirteen, and that was purely so

1633
01:13:55,093 --> 01:13:57,412
Speaker 20: I could get the opportunity to earn some money, help

1634
01:13:57,492 --> 01:14:00,933
Speaker 20: my mother around the house with regards to both buying groceries,

1635
01:14:01,093 --> 01:14:05,053
Speaker 20: and get myself and my younger brother a few things

1636
01:14:05,093 --> 01:14:07,532
Speaker 20: along the way as well, like our first PlayStation was

1637
01:14:07,572 --> 01:14:10,372
Speaker 20: bought with my So I think it's just a matter

1638
01:14:10,412 --> 01:14:14,093
Speaker 20: of if you if someone's willing and I guess is

1639
01:14:14,652 --> 01:14:17,412
Speaker 20: comfortable with it, then give them the opportunity.

1640
01:14:18,692 --> 01:14:21,532
Speaker 2: So did you have any base pay? Was it all

1641
01:14:21,612 --> 01:14:23,973
Speaker 2: tips you were earling or was there just there's a

1642
01:14:23,973 --> 01:14:25,333
Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit at the start of it,

1643
01:14:27,173 --> 01:14:28,333
Speaker 2: it was all tips.

1644
01:14:28,572 --> 01:14:30,412
Speaker 20: It was all tips. I was told from day one

1645
01:14:30,492 --> 01:14:32,932
Speaker 20: that I was below the age of sixteen, so if

1646
01:14:32,973 --> 01:14:35,852
Speaker 20: I was never able to earn a salary or in

1647
01:14:35,933 --> 01:14:39,092
Speaker 20: any way, so I was just working on tips.

1648
01:14:39,253 --> 01:14:40,892
Speaker 2: And is that legal over there or was I doing

1649
01:14:40,893 --> 01:14:41,692
Speaker 2: a bit of a backhander?

1650
01:14:42,973 --> 01:14:43,892
Speaker 6: No, that was legal.

1651
01:14:44,093 --> 01:14:44,372
Speaker 5: It was.

1652
01:14:44,532 --> 01:14:47,013
Speaker 20: It was a legal thing. I was just as long

1653
01:14:47,053 --> 01:14:48,933
Speaker 20: as they weren't paying me and formally employing me.

1654
01:14:49,732 --> 01:14:50,412
Speaker 6: But I was.

1655
01:14:50,853 --> 01:14:54,932
Speaker 20: I was doing doing what was expected of me, and yeah,

1656
01:14:55,692 --> 01:14:57,532
Speaker 20: I do was a great help. And I think I

1657
01:14:57,612 --> 01:15:00,652
Speaker 20: think from from that experience, I mean myself, it shaped

1658
01:15:00,692 --> 01:15:03,852
Speaker 20: need to I guess to appreciate money, and I guess

1659
01:15:03,893 --> 01:15:07,532
Speaker 20: the working ethic and since then I guess from my

1660
01:15:07,732 --> 01:15:10,492
Speaker 20: family at least there's an appreciation of people who are

1661
01:15:10,532 --> 01:15:13,732
Speaker 20: help you around the hospital industry. So you make sure

1662
01:15:13,732 --> 01:15:15,692
Speaker 20: you do tip, You do appreciate them, you do show

1663
01:15:15,772 --> 01:15:18,692
Speaker 20: them that they are human. You can connect with them,

1664
01:15:18,732 --> 01:15:20,772
Speaker 20: you know, even just by calling them by their first name,

1665
01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:23,053
Speaker 20: their name tags or they call them by their name.

1666
01:15:23,213 --> 01:15:25,572
Speaker 20: Speak to them as if though there are another person,

1667
01:15:25,612 --> 01:15:26,892
Speaker 20: because there are, and it's good.

1668
01:15:27,452 --> 01:15:30,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. So the tapping culture in South Africa was

1669
01:15:30,053 --> 01:15:32,732
Speaker 3: it across the board. Someone was going to mention here

1670
01:15:32,853 --> 01:15:34,772
Speaker 3: that would you tip when you're buying a new car,

1671
01:15:35,013 --> 01:15:37,213
Speaker 3: or would you tip your hear to resir, et cetera.

1672
01:15:38,853 --> 01:15:41,133
Speaker 20: I think there is more, not necessarily with a car.

1673
01:15:41,333 --> 01:15:44,532
Speaker 20: Maybe yeah, your hairdresser, your barber, yep, you you tap them.

1674
01:15:44,853 --> 01:15:47,173
Speaker 20: You got to buy something to eat, I mean, yees,

1675
01:15:47,333 --> 01:15:50,213
Speaker 20: you top the people that were serving you. Sometimes, even

1676
01:15:50,293 --> 01:15:52,692
Speaker 20: even if it's a takeaway, you you could quite easily

1677
01:15:52,772 --> 01:15:56,172
Speaker 20: top them. It was just I guess it was just accepted.

1678
01:15:56,213 --> 01:15:58,973
Speaker 20: It was just something that you do. I just as

1679
01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:01,253
Speaker 20: an appreciation for the top person taking their time to

1680
01:16:02,053 --> 01:16:05,093
Speaker 20: go to to serve you, to help you in your day.

1681
01:16:05,973 --> 01:16:08,253
Speaker 2: Well do people get expoiited by it though? I mean

1682
01:16:08,333 --> 01:16:09,893
Speaker 2: I guess you can just stop working there, can't you.

1683
01:16:10,013 --> 01:16:12,173
Speaker 2: If you're at somewhere and then it's not a tipping

1684
01:16:12,213 --> 01:16:14,412
Speaker 2: place so there's not enough business coming through, then then

1685
01:16:14,452 --> 01:16:16,772
Speaker 2: you just you just leave, right. I guess that The

1686
01:16:16,853 --> 01:16:19,052
Speaker 2: thing with New Zealand though, was we don't have that culture,

1687
01:16:19,133 --> 01:16:21,612
Speaker 2: so it would be very hard. It would take a

1688
01:16:21,732 --> 01:16:24,293
Speaker 2: generation to bring that in. I mean, and no one

1689
01:16:24,293 --> 01:16:26,972
Speaker 2: would have I mean, there's there been absolutely no appetite

1690
01:16:26,973 --> 01:16:29,133
Speaker 2: from the governments that take over and that they're run

1691
01:16:29,253 --> 01:16:32,213
Speaker 2: New Zealand, you know they're just increasing the minimum wage.

1692
01:16:32,253 --> 01:16:34,333
Speaker 2: Is the absolutely no appetite to bring it in here.

1693
01:16:34,372 --> 01:16:36,572
Speaker 2: But also I think that it's just not part of

1694
01:16:36,612 --> 01:16:38,852
Speaker 2: the way we look at things, so it would be

1695
01:16:38,973 --> 01:16:39,973
Speaker 2: very hard to bring it in here.

1696
01:16:41,093 --> 01:16:43,692
Speaker 20: Yeah, it wasn't necessarily enforced, I guess on anyone as

1697
01:16:44,053 --> 01:16:45,572
Speaker 20: it was. It was more of a culture thing. But

1698
01:16:45,692 --> 01:16:50,692
Speaker 20: there were instances. I mean, there are restaurants where if

1699
01:16:50,772 --> 01:16:52,812
Speaker 20: there were a certain number of people within a group,

1700
01:16:52,893 --> 01:16:55,213
Speaker 20: So if there were eight or more or ten or

1701
01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:58,933
Speaker 20: more people sitting in one grouping, they would then I

1702
01:16:59,013 --> 01:17:02,053
Speaker 20: guess put on a tip on the bill. And that

1703
01:17:02,253 --> 01:17:04,372
Speaker 20: wasn't because they were trying to I guess trying to

1704
01:17:04,452 --> 01:17:07,132
Speaker 20: fleece the people. It was more matter of saying, appreciate

1705
01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:09,572
Speaker 20: the fact that now there's one person serving this table

1706
01:17:09,612 --> 01:17:12,492
Speaker 20: of ten and they've got to go through a whole

1707
01:17:12,532 --> 01:17:15,213
Speaker 20: lot more than the individual that was serving a table

1708
01:17:15,253 --> 01:17:16,972
Speaker 20: of two right next to them.

1709
01:17:17,093 --> 01:17:19,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, Christopher, really nice to chat with you. Thanks for

1710
01:17:19,772 --> 01:17:22,852
Speaker 3: giving us a buzz. It is seven minutes to three

1711
01:17:22,933 --> 01:17:25,412
Speaker 3: when we come back. We got plenty of texts to

1712
01:17:25,492 --> 01:17:27,532
Speaker 3: get through, so back very shortly.

1713
01:17:27,853 --> 01:17:31,372
Speaker 2: Disgusting from you guys, I can't believe you are essentially

1714
01:17:31,412 --> 01:17:35,173
Speaker 2: supporting slavery and people understand it's not slavery. You're getting paid,

1715
01:17:35,253 --> 01:17:37,053
Speaker 2: but it's just a different way you get paid. When

1716
01:17:37,093 --> 01:17:40,772
Speaker 2: it's tips, you get a lower base rate pay generally speaking,

1717
01:17:40,772 --> 01:17:42,133
Speaker 2: this outworks and the States, and on top of that

1718
01:17:42,173 --> 01:17:42,732
Speaker 2: you get tipps.

1719
01:17:43,013 --> 01:17:44,012
Speaker 3: Very different to slavery.

1720
01:17:44,772 --> 01:17:47,092
Speaker 2: Yeah, the slavery very different from slavery.

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01:17:48,532 --> 01:17:50,892
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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01:17:50,973 --> 01:17:54,452
Speaker 5: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News

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01:17:54,532 --> 01:17:56,612
Speaker 5: talks 'b news.

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01:17:56,532 --> 01:17:59,173
Speaker 3: Talks there be it is four to three. Plenty of

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01:17:59,253 --> 01:18:01,093
Speaker 3: texts have come through over the last two hours on

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's an interesting topic, but it is

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01:18:04,612 --> 01:18:07,053
Speaker 2: scary how many hospital businesses are shutting down. There's no

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01:18:07,093 --> 01:18:09,732
Speaker 2: doubt about that, and we need them to make our suburbs,

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01:18:09,772 --> 01:18:15,053
Speaker 2: city centers and villagers vibrants. It's getting harder and harder

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01:18:15,093 --> 01:18:17,612
Speaker 2: to make money in hospital so something needs to change

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01:18:18,213 --> 01:18:20,732
Speaker 2: because when the cafe you love down the road shuts,

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01:18:21,492 --> 01:18:23,093
Speaker 2: it may not come back.

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Speaker 3: Beautifully said, nice words, right, thanks man, great discussion. Thank

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01:18:26,933 --> 01:18:29,532
Speaker 3: you to all the hospow businesses who ran through some

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01:18:29,612 --> 01:18:32,133
Speaker 3: great new Zealanders out there working in hospital, which is

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01:18:32,173 --> 01:18:34,892
Speaker 3: good to see. So hold on and let's do our

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01:18:34,933 --> 01:18:38,652
Speaker 3: part right coming up after three o'clock, big day because

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01:18:38,652 --> 01:18:41,253
Speaker 3: it is Friday, New Zealander of the week. Who will

1740
01:18:41,293 --> 01:18:41,452
Speaker 3: it be?

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01:18:42,973 --> 01:18:44,732
Speaker 2: Could be anyone, could be anybody.

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01:18:44,812 --> 01:18:47,012
Speaker 3: And we also want to have a chat about calorie counting.

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01:18:47,133 --> 01:18:48,572
Speaker 3: Is it still a thing? Are you still doing it?

1744
01:18:49,013 --> 01:18:51,333
Speaker 3: Have you managed to lose weights? Really can to get

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01:18:51,333 --> 01:18:52,692
Speaker 3: your views on that one. I wait one hundred and

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01:18:52,692 --> 01:18:54,452
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is and number to call New Sport

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01:18:54,532 --> 01:18:56,972
Speaker 3: and Weather coming up. You're listening to matt and Tyler.

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01:18:57,013 --> 01:18:58,613
Speaker 3: Have you having a great Friday afternoon.

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01:19:05,772 --> 01:19:09,053
Speaker 5: You're on New Home in Statle and Ed Teening Talk.

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01:19:09,333 --> 01:19:14,652
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby for.

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01:19:14,692 --> 01:19:17,412
Speaker 3: A good afternoons. You welcome back into the program. It

1752
01:19:17,612 --> 01:19:19,293
Speaker 3: is seven past three, so good to have you a

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01:19:19,372 --> 01:19:22,333
Speaker 3: company on this Friday afternoon. So this is going to

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01:19:22,333 --> 01:19:25,732
Speaker 3: be an interesting chat. Calorie count seen, it was a

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01:19:25,772 --> 01:19:27,492
Speaker 3: big thing a couple of years ago. Maybe it's still

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01:19:27,492 --> 01:19:27,892
Speaker 3: a big thing.

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01:19:27,973 --> 01:19:30,213
Speaker 2: It's coming back, Tyler, That's why we're talking about. It's

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01:19:30,253 --> 01:19:33,692
Speaker 2: coming back hard. It's all over social media again. The

1759
01:19:33,772 --> 01:19:36,012
Speaker 2: apps are being pushed hard and it's all over my house.

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01:19:36,093 --> 01:19:37,972
Speaker 2: When I tried to put some avocado on my toast

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01:19:38,013 --> 01:19:41,013
Speaker 2: this morning, yeah, and my lovely partner came at me

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01:19:41,133 --> 01:19:45,293
Speaker 2: with a calorie calculator and she said, look, with that

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01:19:45,812 --> 01:19:49,133
Speaker 2: seven steak, you're having those two bits of toast and

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01:19:49,213 --> 01:19:53,972
Speaker 2: then smearing some avocado on there, and then two eggs

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01:19:54,692 --> 01:19:57,452
Speaker 2: and the olive oil that using to cook it all.

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01:19:57,933 --> 01:19:59,973
Speaker 2: That's a big calorie count, she says, it is. And

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01:20:00,013 --> 01:20:02,733
Speaker 2: you're trying to lose weight for the marathon, Maddie.

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01:20:02,652 --> 01:20:04,732
Speaker 3: Yep, so you're not going to do that with that.

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01:20:04,893 --> 01:20:06,732
Speaker 3: It's good for the heart, great for the hearts. Ye

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01:20:07,093 --> 01:20:08,572
Speaker 3: For breakfast, Ladie dar Well, I.

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01:20:08,652 --> 01:20:10,732
Speaker 2: Was trying to put together what I thought would be

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01:20:10,732 --> 01:20:13,692
Speaker 2: the ultimate healthy breakfast because you need a bit of

1773
01:20:13,732 --> 01:20:15,692
Speaker 2: fuel for the tank, so you need some carbs yep,

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01:20:15,933 --> 01:20:18,452
Speaker 2: you know. And so that's the bread yep. Then there's

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01:20:18,492 --> 01:20:21,012
Speaker 2: the Amiga acids and the you know, the Meaga oils

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01:20:21,053 --> 01:20:21,972
Speaker 2: and the fish.

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01:20:21,812 --> 01:20:24,173
Speaker 3: Shat's good stuff, good for my brain. The threes you

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01:20:24,253 --> 01:20:27,133
Speaker 3: need roteing there yep, good fish salmon.

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01:20:27,093 --> 01:20:30,253
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and then good for you. Everyone knows the eggs

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01:20:30,253 --> 01:20:30,732
Speaker 2: are great for you.

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01:20:30,933 --> 01:20:33,213
Speaker 3: Yep, you should take a swig of olive oil each morning.

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01:20:33,293 --> 01:20:35,772
Speaker 2: So they say, yeah, but are you calorie counting? Have

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01:20:35,893 --> 01:20:38,333
Speaker 2: you calorie counted? Is that the way to lose weight

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01:20:38,452 --> 01:20:39,572
Speaker 2: or is there a better way to do it?

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01:20:39,692 --> 01:20:39,812
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:20:39,853 --> 01:20:42,732
Speaker 3: Wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty. Now, when we mentioned

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01:20:42,732 --> 01:20:45,053
Speaker 3: this at one o'clock, the text machine absolutely exploded and

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01:20:45,133 --> 01:20:47,732
Speaker 3: all rady. It's going nuts. And it seems a lot

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01:20:47,732 --> 01:20:49,652
Speaker 3: of people are using these apps on their phone to

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01:20:49,732 --> 01:20:51,612
Speaker 3: calorie count. But I got to say to me, mate,

1791
01:20:51,692 --> 01:20:53,652
Speaker 3: it was I tried it before, tried it in the past.

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01:20:53,772 --> 01:20:55,253
Speaker 3: It is so much frickin' Edmond.

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01:20:55,492 --> 01:20:58,532
Speaker 2: Wow, this person disagrees. It's just come through straight away

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01:20:58,572 --> 01:21:00,333
Speaker 2: there on nine two nine two. Losing weight on a

1795
01:21:00,372 --> 01:21:03,732
Speaker 2: calorie counter app, like my fitness Pal, is fantastic and

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01:21:03,812 --> 01:21:06,292
Speaker 2: the only thing that works for me. It's facts. Calories

1797
01:21:06,372 --> 01:21:10,652
Speaker 2: in and out deficient, you will lose weight guaranteed. I

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01:21:10,732 --> 01:21:14,133
Speaker 2: mean that is the absolute bare minimum of losing weight, right,

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01:21:14,333 --> 01:21:16,692
Speaker 2: So don't you want the information? So you need to

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Speaker 2: have a calorie deficiency, So you need to have less

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01:21:21,213 --> 01:21:25,692
Speaker 2: calories than so you lose weight, right, So more calories

1802
01:21:25,692 --> 01:21:27,253
Speaker 2: you're gonna put on? What more calories than you need,

1803
01:21:27,253 --> 01:21:28,053
Speaker 2: you're gonna put on weight.

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01:21:28,133 --> 01:21:29,292
Speaker 3: It's a logical conclusion.

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01:21:29,572 --> 01:21:32,892
Speaker 2: Slightly less than you need to keep going, and you will.

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01:21:33,093 --> 01:21:34,892
Speaker 2: You'll burn some fat so you can keep going. That's

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01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:38,093
Speaker 2: that's basically what it is. So calorie counting makes a

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01:21:38,133 --> 01:21:40,173
Speaker 2: whole lot of sense, doesn't it, Because you're just getting,

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01:21:40,213 --> 01:21:42,093
Speaker 2: as this text has said, the raw hard facts, and

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01:21:42,173 --> 01:21:44,893
Speaker 2: also then you can go deep into the details on

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01:21:44,973 --> 01:21:46,412
Speaker 2: it and you go, well, look, I'm going to do

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01:21:46,492 --> 01:21:48,772
Speaker 2: some research. I need this much protein here. So you're

1813
01:21:48,812 --> 01:21:50,932
Speaker 2: not just calorie counting. Now you're looking at the amount

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01:21:50,973 --> 01:21:53,013
Speaker 2: of protein you need, the amount of carbs you need.

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01:21:53,612 --> 01:21:55,773
Speaker 2: You know you're getting. You're getting getting.

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01:21:55,853 --> 01:21:58,093
Speaker 3: Your macro's right, get an all mathematical on it.

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01:21:58,173 --> 01:22:00,973
Speaker 2: You're drilling in and then you're running yourself like a

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01:22:01,652 --> 01:22:05,372
Speaker 2: like a an if one race car well.

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01:22:05,213 --> 01:22:06,412
Speaker 3: Oiled machine perfectly.

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01:22:06,492 --> 01:22:08,893
Speaker 2: You're you're working out exactly what you need in the

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01:22:08,973 --> 01:22:11,612
Speaker 2: system to achieve the best results that you need and

1822
01:22:11,692 --> 01:22:12,892
Speaker 2: not turn into a feedty bone bladic.

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Speaker 3: You're making it sound very good. Cream me if I'm wrong.

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01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:17,333
Speaker 3: Wasn't that the crux of weight watches?

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01:22:17,492 --> 01:22:17,612
Speaker 17: Was it?

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01:22:17,692 --> 01:22:20,213
Speaker 3: Weight watches was pretty much calorie counting. And so you

1827
01:22:20,293 --> 01:22:22,173
Speaker 3: bought all their products and they did the work for you.

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01:22:22,293 --> 01:22:23,933
Speaker 3: They did the admin side of things. As so long

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01:22:23,973 --> 01:22:26,293
Speaker 3: as you buy our little chocolate pod that's only got

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01:22:26,333 --> 01:22:28,772
Speaker 3: ten calories in it, we'll keep track for you, is it?

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01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:29,213
Speaker 2: Well?

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01:22:29,732 --> 01:22:31,492
Speaker 3: If anyone out there did the old weight watches I

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01:22:31,572 --> 01:22:32,772
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:22:32,853 --> 01:22:33,732
Speaker 2: And who's Jenny Craig?

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01:22:33,933 --> 01:22:36,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's happening to Jenny Craig? She's still about, she's still.

1836
01:22:36,133 --> 01:22:38,333
Speaker 2: Looking good, she's stilling knocking about, Jenny Craig.

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01:22:38,372 --> 01:22:39,852
Speaker 3: If you're listening, Jenny, we'd love to hear from.

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01:22:39,732 --> 01:22:42,652
Speaker 2: You about and what special what about special K? Special K?

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01:22:42,893 --> 01:22:43,213
Speaker 2: That's right?

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01:22:43,333 --> 01:22:44,213
Speaker 3: Is that still banging about?

1841
01:22:44,372 --> 01:22:44,572
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:22:45,412 --> 01:22:48,652
Speaker 3: Tasted like cardboard, but low calories. I eight hundred eighty

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01:22:48,732 --> 01:22:51,492
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Are you into

1844
01:22:51,532 --> 01:22:54,452
Speaker 3: your calorie counting? What are you using to count those calories?

1845
01:22:54,452 --> 01:22:56,013
Speaker 3: And is it working? A treat? Love to hear from you?

1846
01:22:56,253 --> 01:22:57,572
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is a text?

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01:22:58,013 --> 01:23:02,492
Speaker 2: Or do you think it's an absolute rubbish move that

1848
01:23:02,692 --> 01:23:05,492
Speaker 2: just strips the enjoyment out of your life and you

1849
01:23:05,572 --> 01:23:08,612
Speaker 2: should just chill out and eat sensible whole food dudes,

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01:23:09,093 --> 01:23:12,413
Speaker 2: and just not treat yourself like a machine.

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01:23:12,173 --> 01:23:14,293
Speaker 3: That seems pretty sensible. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten

1852
01:23:14,372 --> 01:23:17,732
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It is eleven past three.

1853
01:23:17,772 --> 01:23:21,933
Speaker 2: But right now, every Friday on Mattin Tyler afternoons on

1854
01:23:22,133 --> 01:23:24,612
Speaker 2: news Talks, there'd be we name the New Zealander of

1855
01:23:24,732 --> 01:23:27,052
Speaker 2: the Week and honor that we bestow on your behalf

1856
01:23:27,452 --> 01:23:30,133
Speaker 2: to a newsmaker who has had an outsized effect on

1857
01:23:30,253 --> 01:23:34,253
Speaker 2: our great and beautiful nation over the previous week. As always,

1858
01:23:34,452 --> 01:23:38,173
Speaker 2: there'll be two runners up and one winner, so without

1859
01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:44,612
Speaker 2: further ado, runner up one also gets the no bump

1860
01:23:44,732 --> 01:23:47,932
Speaker 2: for Me thanks award. A twenty year old Buckland's Beach

1861
01:23:48,053 --> 01:23:50,732
Speaker 2: law student has won a High Court case this week

1862
01:23:50,853 --> 01:23:54,133
Speaker 2: against at after a judge ruled that the installation of

1863
01:23:54,253 --> 01:23:58,173
Speaker 2: speed bumps in his neighborhood was unlawful because they unduly

1864
01:23:58,412 --> 01:24:03,452
Speaker 2: impeded vehicula, traffic, stupid, made up anti car safety concerns,

1865
01:24:03,612 --> 01:24:07,772
Speaker 2: leading to noisy bumpy Buckland's Bollocks. Buckland's Beach Bump bashing

1866
01:24:07,853 --> 01:24:12,492
Speaker 2: Barrister be Sean o'lochlan, you are second runner up for

1867
01:24:12,612 --> 01:24:19,852
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week. First runner up also gets

1868
01:24:19,933 --> 01:24:23,213
Speaker 2: the sorry for calling you a muppet Award. It might

1869
01:24:23,293 --> 01:24:25,892
Speaker 2: be time to acknowledge we all went a bit hard

1870
01:24:25,973 --> 01:24:28,652
Speaker 2: on old Fozzy Bear. A coach can only do so

1871
01:24:28,853 --> 01:24:31,253
Speaker 2: much with the plasi has. Turns out it was easier

1872
01:24:31,333 --> 01:24:32,893
Speaker 2: back in the day when you had the likes of

1873
01:24:32,973 --> 01:24:37,253
Speaker 2: Rito McCaw, Krter Kano Non Milamu, Aaron Ben and Conrad

1874
01:24:37,372 --> 01:24:40,333
Speaker 2: Smith and the team Fozzy Bear and Razor. You just

1875
01:24:40,492 --> 01:24:43,492
Speaker 2: have a slightly different crop to work with, So sars

1876
01:24:43,532 --> 01:24:45,213
Speaker 2: for being so hard on your mate. Turns out winning

1877
01:24:45,293 --> 01:24:47,053
Speaker 2: is harder these days than it used to be, No

1878
01:24:47,173 --> 01:24:50,372
Speaker 2: matter how great the coach is. Ian Fozzy Beer Foster,

1879
01:24:50,893 --> 01:24:54,093
Speaker 2: all is forgiven and you are second runner up for

1880
01:24:54,253 --> 01:24:58,452
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week. There can be only one,

1881
01:24:58,812 --> 01:25:01,932
Speaker 2: and the winner also gets the South cantab Sweet Tooth Award.

1882
01:25:02,372 --> 01:25:05,253
Speaker 2: People came from far and wide to shove that taste

1883
01:25:05,293 --> 01:25:08,932
Speaker 2: of Tinuu and their gods. Your pastry is perf your

1884
01:25:09,053 --> 01:25:10,772
Speaker 2: yellowness so very sweet.

1885
01:25:11,213 --> 01:25:13,772
Speaker 3: When you make stuff as good as this, how the

1886
01:25:14,053 --> 01:25:15,492
Speaker 3: hell do you go out of business?

1887
01:25:15,652 --> 01:25:18,852
Speaker 2: Then heath deserts and you're delicious custard squeeze.

1888
01:25:19,253 --> 01:25:22,253
Speaker 3: You may be gone, but you will never be forgotten.

1889
01:25:22,692 --> 01:25:24,893
Speaker 12: And you are the Maden.

1890
01:25:24,732 --> 01:25:31,412
Speaker 2: Tyler afternoons, you seelanders of the week, take it away, Howie.

1891
01:25:55,532 --> 01:25:57,693
Speaker 14: Sorry, Toby, love you, raisor.

1892
01:26:03,812 --> 01:26:04,692
Speaker 5: Us talk sid be.

1893
01:26:05,333 --> 01:26:07,812
Speaker 3: For a good afternoon to you. Sixteen past three, and

1894
01:26:07,853 --> 01:26:10,293
Speaker 3: we're talking abot calorie counting? Is it the best way

1895
01:26:10,492 --> 01:26:11,412
Speaker 3: to lose weight?

1896
01:26:11,572 --> 01:26:11,772
Speaker 4: Matt.

1897
01:26:11,893 --> 01:26:15,172
Speaker 3: You have been had it forced upon you in your household,

1898
01:26:15,173 --> 01:26:17,133
Speaker 3: the old calorie counting, And it's pretty full noise at

1899
01:26:17,173 --> 01:26:18,812
Speaker 3: the moment where to the point where you've tried to

1900
01:26:18,853 --> 01:26:22,973
Speaker 3: replace butter with beautiful world avocado and there was a

1901
01:26:23,013 --> 01:26:24,452
Speaker 3: bit too many calories in the old Ever.

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01:26:24,893 --> 01:26:26,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So when I say, that'd be unfair

1903
01:26:26,893 --> 01:26:28,933
Speaker 2: to say to my lovely partn that she's forcing me

1904
01:26:29,492 --> 01:26:32,732
Speaker 2: on it. She's just she's very interested in nutrition, and

1905
01:26:32,893 --> 01:26:36,412
Speaker 2: she goes to the gym a lot, and and she's

1906
01:26:36,572 --> 01:26:39,333
Speaker 2: disgusted by my behavior she had And because I'm running

1907
01:26:39,333 --> 01:26:42,173
Speaker 2: a marathon in a couple of couple of weeks, it's

1908
01:26:42,173 --> 01:26:44,333
Speaker 2: a couple of months. Sorry, So I got to get

1909
01:26:44,372 --> 01:26:44,652
Speaker 2: it right.

1910
01:26:44,772 --> 01:26:47,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't want to be carrying you know.

1911
01:26:47,412 --> 01:26:49,412
Speaker 2: I had this this thought, right, So if you filled

1912
01:26:49,412 --> 01:26:52,572
Speaker 2: a backpack full of cage's, who's.

1913
01:26:52,412 --> 01:26:56,612
Speaker 3: Has bracy She's saying, no, it's just turn your computer off.

1914
01:26:56,692 --> 01:26:57,852
Speaker 3: Turn your computer off.

1915
01:26:58,293 --> 01:27:01,812
Speaker 2: Geez professional. This is coming up on our two hundred show. Tyler.

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01:27:01,933 --> 01:27:04,133
Speaker 3: Hey, by the way that we saucy roll at your

1917
01:27:04,133 --> 01:27:06,093
Speaker 3: head a little bit earlier to did you put that

1918
01:27:06,213 --> 01:27:07,052
Speaker 3: into the calorie counter?

1919
01:27:07,173 --> 01:27:09,452
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was small? Sorry anyway, I was saying.

1920
01:27:09,532 --> 01:27:11,652
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about this in terms of running

1921
01:27:11,652 --> 01:27:15,452
Speaker 2: a marathon. If you you know, you talk about a kg.

1922
01:27:15,572 --> 01:27:17,812
Speaker 2: I've lost a kg here at cog there, and I've

1923
01:27:17,853 --> 01:27:19,933
Speaker 2: been trying to lose ten kg, so I've lost like

1924
01:27:20,893 --> 01:27:24,492
Speaker 2: five of it. Yeah, but if you are running a

1925
01:27:24,572 --> 01:27:28,972
Speaker 2: marathon and you're carrying ten kg, you just imagined running

1926
01:27:29,213 --> 01:27:32,852
Speaker 2: for forty two k's carrying ten kgs of cheese for example. Yeah,

1927
01:27:32,893 --> 01:27:34,812
Speaker 2: it's a ridiculous own goal to try and run that

1928
01:27:34,893 --> 01:27:36,572
Speaker 2: far and carry that extra weight. So you want to

1929
01:27:36,612 --> 01:27:37,452
Speaker 2: lose that weight, right.

1930
01:27:37,452 --> 01:27:39,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of extra energy you're burning to

1931
01:27:39,572 --> 01:27:41,452
Speaker 3: carry that weight. Yes, forty two cars.

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Speaker 2: So you're trying to get fit, So it's it's kind

1933
01:27:43,452 --> 01:27:45,412
Speaker 2: of like one of those things you sort of got

1934
01:27:45,532 --> 01:27:47,772
Speaker 2: to work on your efficiency at the same time as

1935
01:27:47,772 --> 01:27:49,692
Speaker 2: you're getting fit, and it's not efficiency to carry extra

1936
01:27:49,772 --> 01:27:51,053
Speaker 2: weight around the mouth on right.

1937
01:27:51,173 --> 01:27:52,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why.

1938
01:27:52,812 --> 01:27:55,652
Speaker 2: So I think in her defense, she sees me making

1939
01:27:55,732 --> 01:27:57,492
Speaker 2: terrible food decisions and she comes at me with a

1940
01:27:57,532 --> 01:27:59,492
Speaker 2: calorie counter and going this is this is the upshot

1941
01:27:59,532 --> 01:28:00,053
Speaker 2: of what you're doing.

1942
01:28:00,452 --> 01:28:02,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, so on your tracy, you're keeping them on the

1943
01:28:02,133 --> 01:28:04,093
Speaker 3: straight and narrow. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1944
01:28:04,133 --> 01:28:06,532
Speaker 3: is and umber to call? Does calorie counting.

1945
01:28:06,213 --> 01:28:06,652
Speaker 20: Work for you?

1946
01:28:07,213 --> 01:28:07,812
Speaker 2: Hey, Robin?

1947
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:10,612
Speaker 5: Oh hello, how are you very good?

1948
01:28:10,692 --> 01:28:14,692
Speaker 3: So you lost quite a bit of weight calorie counting, Well,

1949
01:28:14,893 --> 01:28:15,333
Speaker 3: I went.

1950
01:28:15,293 --> 01:28:18,772
Speaker 17: On a truck and to Australia and came back and

1951
01:28:18,853 --> 01:28:22,932
Speaker 17: jumped on the scales and was up to sixty seven kg,

1952
01:28:23,213 --> 01:28:27,173
Speaker 17: which for me is a lot. And so I know

1953
01:28:27,532 --> 01:28:30,532
Speaker 17: and thought, I'm going to lose weight. So I looked.

1954
01:28:30,772 --> 01:28:33,053
Speaker 17: So when I was younger, about twenty two to twenty three,

1955
01:28:33,492 --> 01:28:37,773
Speaker 17: kind of student, post students, I did that quite successfully,

1956
01:28:38,053 --> 01:28:41,293
Speaker 17: and i've over the years, you know, it's trying to

1957
01:28:41,572 --> 01:28:44,293
Speaker 17: lose a kid or two or three. Never been successful,

1958
01:28:45,253 --> 01:28:50,692
Speaker 17: but just basically the two weeks of half a cup

1959
01:28:50,732 --> 01:28:52,932
Speaker 17: of porridge for breakfast and a little bit of fruit

1960
01:28:53,053 --> 01:28:56,013
Speaker 17: and a couple of boiled eggs for lunch, and some

1961
01:28:56,173 --> 01:29:00,333
Speaker 17: cottage cheese and had a bit of meat and lots

1962
01:29:00,372 --> 01:29:02,333
Speaker 17: of veguice for dinner. And I just did that for

1963
01:29:02,412 --> 01:29:06,133
Speaker 17: two weeks and didn't have any alcohol, and I just

1964
01:29:06,213 --> 01:29:07,893
Speaker 17: kept losing weight. And I lost about three and a

1965
01:29:07,933 --> 01:29:11,492
Speaker 17: half and I thought that's too fast. I've probably got cancer.

1966
01:29:11,572 --> 01:29:14,013
Speaker 12: So then I panicked and went to the doctor. And

1967
01:29:14,253 --> 01:29:16,213
Speaker 12: you know, I had made sure that I was okay,

1968
01:29:16,973 --> 01:29:18,532
Speaker 12: and it stayed off.

1969
01:29:19,013 --> 01:29:21,333
Speaker 17: I couldn't was. I was quite surprised it stayed off

1970
01:29:21,452 --> 01:29:24,293
Speaker 17: for another two or three weeks. Then I thought, I'll

1971
01:29:24,372 --> 01:29:26,772
Speaker 17: just eat a bit more and see if I can

1972
01:29:26,973 --> 01:29:29,492
Speaker 17: put some on, just to make sure I'm okay. And

1973
01:29:29,853 --> 01:29:33,933
Speaker 17: so I put a everything I felt like eating, and

1974
01:29:34,253 --> 01:29:36,732
Speaker 17: you know, a few few glasses of wine, put on

1975
01:29:36,812 --> 01:29:40,253
Speaker 17: a kilo, and then thought, oh no, it's okay. So yeah, somehow,

1976
01:29:40,572 --> 01:29:46,453
Speaker 17: just by being absolutely adamantly, you know, fixated on the calories,

1977
01:29:46,652 --> 01:29:47,613
Speaker 17: I managed.

1978
01:29:47,333 --> 01:29:49,372
Speaker 16: To drop drop that weight.

1979
01:29:49,492 --> 01:29:53,492
Speaker 17: And I'm sure that's the only reason that that that

1980
01:29:53,652 --> 01:29:54,412
Speaker 17: actually happened.

1981
01:29:55,812 --> 01:29:58,253
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, it was hilarious, yea.

1982
01:29:59,213 --> 01:30:01,173
Speaker 3: And so how hard was it for you when you

1983
01:30:01,253 --> 01:30:05,412
Speaker 3: were counting those calories? Obviously you know your panicked there

1984
01:30:05,452 --> 01:30:06,812
Speaker 3: for a bit. And it turned out that it was

1985
01:30:07,133 --> 01:30:09,013
Speaker 3: because you were making the right food choices, which is

1986
01:30:09,053 --> 01:30:13,492
Speaker 3: a good thing. But did you get quite quite detailed

1987
01:30:13,572 --> 01:30:15,372
Speaker 3: on how you're counting there or did you keep it

1988
01:30:15,412 --> 01:30:15,932
Speaker 3: a bit looser?

1989
01:30:16,933 --> 01:30:19,852
Speaker 17: No, I just basically ate the same old thing every

1990
01:30:19,933 --> 01:30:22,412
Speaker 17: day for two weeks because then I knew what because

1991
01:30:22,732 --> 01:30:25,972
Speaker 17: I think eggs are like thirty six calories or something. Yeah,

1992
01:30:26,133 --> 01:30:29,013
Speaker 17: and I know is quite good.

1993
01:30:29,253 --> 01:30:31,133
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm looking at like I was looking at a

1994
01:30:31,213 --> 01:30:33,772
Speaker 2: cup of porridge here, one hundred and twenty five calories.

1995
01:30:33,812 --> 01:30:35,973
Speaker 2: So that's pretty good because your thing is you need

1996
01:30:36,013 --> 01:30:37,652
Speaker 2: to you know, some people go for the zero carb

1997
01:30:37,772 --> 01:30:39,892
Speaker 2: diet and you know that you can lose a lot

1998
01:30:39,933 --> 01:30:42,452
Speaker 2: of weight. But you know, I've tried that before as well.

1999
01:30:42,492 --> 01:30:44,492
Speaker 2: But I just find got no fuel in the tank.

2000
01:30:44,652 --> 01:30:47,772
Speaker 2: And there's the argument that you know, protein builds builds.

2001
01:30:48,652 --> 01:30:50,652
Speaker 2: If it were you were a car, then then protein

2002
01:30:50,772 --> 01:30:52,732
Speaker 2: is what builds the doors and the engine and everything.

2003
01:30:53,173 --> 01:30:56,932
Speaker 2: But you know, carbs or as the fuel. So if

2004
01:30:56,933 --> 01:30:59,173
Speaker 2: you have no carbs, then then you've got no energy.

2005
01:30:59,412 --> 01:31:01,412
Speaker 2: You know, you can end up with an energy defit.

2006
01:31:01,452 --> 01:31:04,692
Speaker 2: So one hundred and twenty five calories for that's pretty

2007
01:31:04,692 --> 01:31:07,253
Speaker 2: good calorie return for Bridgeway.

2008
01:31:07,812 --> 01:31:12,412
Speaker 17: Yes, of course. Yeah, So it's cottage cheese. So I

2009
01:31:12,492 --> 01:31:15,893
Speaker 17: had those rice rice ways of things with vegie my

2010
01:31:16,812 --> 01:31:20,092
Speaker 17: cottage cheese and grated apple on top for lunch sometimes

2011
01:31:20,133 --> 01:31:24,572
Speaker 17: and they're really delicious. That sounds pretty good that combination anyway,

2012
01:31:24,893 --> 01:31:27,372
Speaker 17: two or three of those and maybe boiled egg and

2013
01:31:27,452 --> 01:31:29,933
Speaker 17: then yeah, and I just but I was so I was.

2014
01:31:30,333 --> 01:31:32,532
Speaker 17: I was so shocked at when I waved and I

2015
01:31:32,612 --> 01:31:36,572
Speaker 17: got back from my holiday that the incentive was just there.

2016
01:31:36,732 --> 01:31:38,892
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was just what did you say

2017
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:40,412
Speaker 2: to all the people that are texting through right now

2018
01:31:40,452 --> 01:31:43,972
Speaker 2: and saying caloriecounting sucks the absolute joy out of life?

2019
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:46,253
Speaker 6: I did?

2020
01:31:46,333 --> 01:31:50,253
Speaker 17: I just I just I just did it. I mean,

2021
01:31:50,293 --> 01:31:51,612
Speaker 17: I just dug it in.

2022
01:31:52,532 --> 01:31:52,732
Speaker 21: Yeah.

2023
01:31:52,893 --> 01:31:56,412
Speaker 17: I only wanted to lose about three korea and that

2024
01:31:56,532 --> 01:31:59,612
Speaker 17: was fine. I'm not trying to lose twenty kilos, which

2025
01:31:59,732 --> 01:32:03,093
Speaker 17: I know is another challenge altogether. But yeah, yeah, justin

2026
01:32:03,173 --> 01:32:04,973
Speaker 17: it worked for me though, for what I was I

2027
01:32:05,173 --> 01:32:08,692
Speaker 17: was aiming at. And I've never been I've never done it, haven't.

2028
01:32:08,812 --> 01:32:11,013
Speaker 17: I've always gone on diets. I've been on diets on

2029
01:32:11,213 --> 01:32:15,293
Speaker 17: and off, you know, yeah, over my life, and I've

2030
01:32:15,372 --> 01:32:17,612
Speaker 17: never been quite as good good about it as I

2031
01:32:17,853 --> 01:32:19,092
Speaker 17: was these two weeks.

2032
01:32:19,452 --> 01:32:22,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you, Robin. Yeah, I mean so many

2033
01:32:22,213 --> 01:32:25,412
Speaker 2: people in New Zealand are constantly on some form of

2034
01:32:25,532 --> 01:32:30,612
Speaker 2: diet right, constantly looking for that solution for their problem

2035
01:32:31,412 --> 01:32:33,452
Speaker 2: of getting overweight.

2036
01:32:33,772 --> 01:32:37,372
Speaker 3: And you know, well, I was going to ask you

2037
01:32:37,412 --> 01:32:39,412
Speaker 3: about the low carb because I looked at that and

2038
01:32:39,532 --> 01:32:41,093
Speaker 3: that was what I was worried about. That if I'm

2039
01:32:41,133 --> 01:32:44,253
Speaker 3: not having any carbs, and I love carbs, but they

2040
01:32:44,333 --> 01:32:46,692
Speaker 3: talk about is it katosis that you go into, so

2041
01:32:46,812 --> 01:32:51,253
Speaker 3: you're kind of you're fueling your body via sugar rather

2042
01:32:51,372 --> 01:32:53,652
Speaker 3: than carbs. Is that how it's meant to work?

2043
01:32:53,933 --> 01:32:54,133
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2044
01:32:54,253 --> 01:32:56,572
Speaker 2: The thing with katosis is it's quite hard to get

2045
01:32:56,692 --> 01:33:01,093
Speaker 2: into katosis, you know, and apparently your breath thinks as well. Yes,

2046
01:33:01,253 --> 01:33:04,053
Speaker 2: I mean I've tried that, but you know, I did

2047
01:33:04,093 --> 01:33:05,812
Speaker 2: it for a while and then then someone pointed out

2048
01:33:05,812 --> 01:33:07,173
Speaker 2: you're not actually really doing it.

2049
01:33:07,372 --> 01:33:10,133
Speaker 3: So seeing like hard, yeahka to get into that point.

2050
01:33:10,333 --> 01:33:12,492
Speaker 3: And then you've got a it's quite hard to measure,

2051
01:33:12,492 --> 01:33:14,973
Speaker 3: isn't it. You can get strips or blood, you know,

2052
01:33:15,053 --> 01:33:17,093
Speaker 3: measure your blood to see if you're in kotosis, but

2053
01:33:17,173 --> 01:33:19,093
Speaker 3: that's a that's a I mean, calorie counting is far

2054
01:33:19,133 --> 01:33:20,973
Speaker 3: easier yeah, So.

2055
01:33:23,532 --> 01:33:28,213
Speaker 2: It's all about the The liver contains these fats called keytones,

2056
01:33:28,293 --> 01:33:32,532
Speaker 2: right yep, which become the main energy source. So it's

2057
01:33:33,893 --> 01:33:36,852
Speaker 2: you restrict carbs and glucose and levels and does some

2058
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:38,692
Speaker 2: keto stuff. Someonere be able to explain it better than me.

2059
01:33:38,812 --> 01:33:40,652
Speaker 2: But you know a lot of people. You see keto

2060
01:33:40,692 --> 01:33:43,692
Speaker 2: stuff everywhere, right you do? You see keto chocolate bars, keto,

2061
01:33:43,772 --> 01:33:47,572
Speaker 2: this keto that. Yeah, low carbs, zero carb keto. Musically, yeah,

2062
01:33:47,652 --> 01:33:49,213
Speaker 2: I think it's quite hard to stay in keto though.

2063
01:33:49,812 --> 01:33:52,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds pretty tedious and boring to be honest.

2064
01:33:52,492 --> 01:33:55,213
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

2065
01:33:55,333 --> 01:33:57,133
Speaker 3: call if you've managed to lose a bit of weight,

2066
01:33:58,013 --> 01:34:01,452
Speaker 3: cutting calories or accounting calories. I should say, I really

2067
01:34:01,492 --> 01:34:02,133
Speaker 3: love to hear from you.

2068
01:34:02,492 --> 01:34:06,852
Speaker 2: Eggs and chicken are the bomb? Just eggs and chicken? Yeah?

2069
01:34:07,492 --> 01:34:10,213
Speaker 2: Did you feel weird? I find it quite odd to

2070
01:34:10,532 --> 01:34:12,692
Speaker 2: eat eggs and chicken at the same time. It feels

2071
01:34:12,732 --> 01:34:17,532
Speaker 2: like you're eating two parts of the life phases of

2072
01:34:17,572 --> 01:34:18,012
Speaker 2: that animal.

2073
01:34:18,293 --> 01:34:20,253
Speaker 3: I never thought about that, man, but now I will.

2074
01:34:20,412 --> 01:34:23,093
Speaker 3: Next time I have eggs and chicken, I'll think this

2075
01:34:23,333 --> 01:34:25,213
Speaker 3: is this doesn't feel quite right?

2076
01:34:25,293 --> 01:34:25,492
Speaker 21: Yeah?

2077
01:34:25,532 --> 01:34:26,492
Speaker 3: This is too much going on.

2078
01:34:26,692 --> 01:34:27,612
Speaker 2: It's a poultry side.

2079
01:34:32,213 --> 01:34:35,572
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight hundred

2080
01:34:35,652 --> 01:34:38,093
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on used talks, be very.

2081
01:34:38,013 --> 01:34:40,253
Speaker 3: Good afternoon and there's twenty seven pass three and we're

2082
01:34:40,253 --> 01:34:42,972
Speaker 3: talking about calorie counting. Have you got into calorie counting

2083
01:34:43,013 --> 01:34:44,692
Speaker 3: and has it worked for you? Oh, eight hundred eighty

2084
01:34:44,732 --> 01:34:47,013
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call, Steven, How are

2085
01:34:47,053 --> 01:34:50,972
Speaker 3: you good? Are very good? So you managed to lose

2086
01:34:51,053 --> 01:34:53,692
Speaker 3: quite a bitter weight using a calorie counting app?

2087
01:34:54,492 --> 01:34:54,852
Speaker 8: I did.

2088
01:34:54,973 --> 01:34:59,293
Speaker 13: Yeah, it wasn't specifically a calorie counting app, but it

2089
01:34:59,452 --> 01:35:02,812
Speaker 13: did count calories. So it was basically an app to

2090
01:35:02,973 --> 01:35:07,412
Speaker 13: monitor you're eating. And you basically just you know, you

2091
01:35:07,492 --> 01:35:10,013
Speaker 13: sort of put on what you at each day and

2092
01:35:10,133 --> 01:35:12,333
Speaker 13: it told you, you know, how many calories you needed

2093
01:35:12,412 --> 01:35:14,492
Speaker 13: to burn based on your age and your weight and

2094
01:35:14,492 --> 01:35:17,573
Speaker 13: all that sort of stuff, and then it just calculated

2095
01:35:17,612 --> 01:35:20,173
Speaker 13: it all and it was great fun way to sort

2096
01:35:20,173 --> 01:35:22,772
Speaker 13: of keep crack of it, and you know, had a

2097
01:35:22,812 --> 01:35:25,452
Speaker 13: little little graphs and things showing you how well you

2098
01:35:25,532 --> 01:35:26,452
Speaker 13: were doing and all that sort of thing.

2099
01:35:27,333 --> 01:35:30,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so how much did you end up losing? Stephen?

2100
01:35:30,772 --> 01:35:34,973
Speaker 13: I lost just over ten kilos. Yeah, and that was

2101
01:35:35,053 --> 01:35:37,933
Speaker 13: over a period of maybe six months or something like that.

2102
01:35:39,893 --> 01:35:41,452
Speaker 13: But it was a really clever effort. It was like

2103
01:35:41,532 --> 01:35:43,253
Speaker 13: one of the things you could do, for instance, is

2104
01:35:43,293 --> 01:35:45,452
Speaker 13: you could just take a picture of a meal and

2105
01:35:45,933 --> 01:35:47,812
Speaker 13: it would actually itemize all the.

2106
01:35:49,812 --> 01:35:53,732
Speaker 2: Options that So that's awesome. That's absolutely awesome, Stephen, because

2107
01:35:53,772 --> 01:35:56,213
Speaker 2: the biggest complaint is that it's too too much of

2108
01:35:56,253 --> 01:35:58,053
Speaker 2: a pain in the butt to go through it. But

2109
01:35:58,133 --> 01:35:59,973
Speaker 2: before you're just taking a picture of the meal and

2110
01:36:00,013 --> 01:36:02,372
Speaker 2: it's telling you. I mean, that's that's great, isn't it.

2111
01:36:02,412 --> 01:36:03,293
Speaker 2: What's what was that called?

2112
01:36:03,973 --> 01:36:07,372
Speaker 13: It was called my net diary, right, my net diary?

2113
01:36:07,853 --> 01:36:09,412
Speaker 5: Look that. Yeah.

2114
01:36:09,973 --> 01:36:11,532
Speaker 13: The other thing that was really cool about it was

2115
01:36:11,612 --> 01:36:14,333
Speaker 13: like you could save your meals and things as well,

2116
01:36:14,412 --> 01:36:16,013
Speaker 13: so you know, if you typically had the same thing

2117
01:36:16,093 --> 01:36:19,572
Speaker 13: for breakfast or same different two different combinations for breakfast,

2118
01:36:19,933 --> 01:36:21,333
Speaker 13: you could save them and then you could just date

2119
01:36:21,412 --> 01:36:24,972
Speaker 13: it in so managing it became really really easy over time.

2120
01:36:25,053 --> 01:36:27,333
Speaker 2: You did you find that they're the amount of calories

2121
01:36:27,412 --> 01:36:33,293
Speaker 2: because with my height and such, the amount of calories

2122
01:36:33,333 --> 01:36:34,772
Speaker 2: it says for me to have a day, if I'm

2123
01:36:35,053 --> 01:36:36,852
Speaker 2: a day, if I'm going to lose weight. I think

2124
01:36:36,893 --> 01:36:40,532
Speaker 2: it was two three hundred calories a day, and I actually,

2125
01:36:40,532 --> 01:36:42,812
Speaker 2: when I was looking at it, that was actually felt

2126
01:36:42,853 --> 01:36:45,893
Speaker 2: like I was eating quite a lot, you know. You know,

2127
01:36:46,053 --> 01:36:48,213
Speaker 2: if you just cut out a few snacks and stuff,

2128
01:36:48,253 --> 01:36:51,772
Speaker 2: it seems quite doable to cut down to that amount

2129
01:36:51,772 --> 01:36:53,253
Speaker 2: of calories, right.

2130
01:36:53,812 --> 01:36:57,972
Speaker 13: I don't specifically remember this, this one thon Killer Jewels. Yeah,

2131
01:36:58,572 --> 01:37:01,372
Speaker 13: so you know, my killer dual count was about eight

2132
01:37:01,452 --> 01:37:05,173
Speaker 13: thousand killer jeels a day for instance. Yeah, and it

2133
01:37:05,572 --> 01:37:08,213
Speaker 13: only actually cut it down by I think about it,

2134
01:37:08,412 --> 01:37:12,333
Speaker 13: thousand or fifteen hundred, like that was typically what I

2135
01:37:12,412 --> 01:37:15,572
Speaker 13: think I was eating maybe nine thousand a day or something,

2136
01:37:15,612 --> 01:37:17,572
Speaker 13: and I said that I should be eating eight thousand

2137
01:37:17,572 --> 01:37:17,892
Speaker 13: a day.

2138
01:37:18,772 --> 01:37:20,253
Speaker 5: Yeah, so just cut it down a little bit.

2139
01:37:20,253 --> 01:37:22,812
Speaker 13: But the thing I found interesting about it was it

2140
01:37:22,893 --> 01:37:26,052
Speaker 13: just made you really aware of everything. Like, for instance,

2141
01:37:26,093 --> 01:37:28,053
Speaker 13: you cut a bit of toast for breakfast or something.

2142
01:37:29,053 --> 01:37:30,772
Speaker 13: You know, the difference between having a think piece of

2143
01:37:30,812 --> 01:37:32,173
Speaker 13: toast and a tin piece of closed you know, you

2144
01:37:32,253 --> 01:37:35,692
Speaker 13: could a two pieces instead of one piece. All the

2145
01:37:35,772 --> 01:37:37,612
Speaker 13: exercise that you put in, and if you had thirty

2146
01:37:37,652 --> 01:37:40,692
Speaker 13: minutes of walking or on the bike or whatever, you

2147
01:37:40,812 --> 01:37:42,972
Speaker 13: added at in as well, and it, took the calories

2148
01:37:42,973 --> 01:37:45,932
Speaker 13: off it and dusted it so you'd get it into

2149
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Speaker 13: the day and say, damn, I can't have that bottle

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Speaker 13: of ice cream. I hang it if I go for

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Speaker 13: a walk around the block.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ess interesting, So you said, did you say it was

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01:37:52,772 --> 01:37:55,053
Speaker 2: about eight thousand? Because they're just looking up? So you know,

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01:37:55,492 --> 01:37:59,053
Speaker 2: killogels and calories are just different measures of the same thing,

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01:37:59,253 --> 01:38:01,652
Speaker 2: right yeah, And so I think I think a calorie

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01:38:01,692 --> 01:38:05,652
Speaker 2: is about four point one killogils, So yeah, you're about

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01:38:05,652 --> 01:38:07,572
Speaker 2: the same. So that's that's sort of what you were

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01:38:07,652 --> 01:38:08,933
Speaker 2: was about the same I was trying to do, but

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Speaker 2: just in a different measure. That's interesting.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, Yes, good on you, Steven, Yeah, thank you

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01:38:13,652 --> 01:38:13,932
Speaker 8: very much.

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Speaker 2: So this person before that, I see it. They said

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01:38:16,013 --> 01:38:18,333
Speaker 2: that they lived on chicken and eggs, right yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I was accusing them of a poultry side baiting them

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01:38:20,732 --> 01:38:22,173
Speaker 2: at the same time. And this person's come back now

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01:38:22,253 --> 01:38:24,572
Speaker 2: no no, no, no, no, no, no eggs for breakfast,

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Speaker 2: checking for lunch and dinner.

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Speaker 3: So they got to step right yeah yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 3: month for lunch. Yeah, and then the baby that never

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01:38:30,893 --> 01:38:35,173
Speaker 3: was for bricky yeah yeah, yeah, fair enough too. All right,

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01:38:35,213 --> 01:38:37,532
Speaker 3: we've got the headlines coming up, but we've got full boards,

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01:38:37,572 --> 01:38:39,492
Speaker 3: but still really can never check with you if you've

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Speaker 3: done calorie counting or a still calorie counting, how has

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01:38:42,652 --> 01:38:43,213
Speaker 3: it worked for you?

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01:38:43,452 --> 01:38:46,652
Speaker 2: And we've got a Dietessian coming through here and as

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Speaker 2: usual they coming through with a reasoned response to these

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01:38:50,093 --> 01:38:51,092
Speaker 2: crazy ideas.

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Speaker 3: They're good people though is twenty nine to four.

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Speaker 15: US talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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01:38:59,333 --> 01:39:03,213
Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble please say. They're avoiding confrontation.

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01:39:03,412 --> 01:39:06,212
Speaker 15: And they're search for missing Muter copper man Tom Phillips

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Speaker 15: and his three children. They've released CCTV footage they believed

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Speaker 15: to be of Phillips and one of the kids in

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01:39:12,213 --> 01:39:16,213
Speaker 15: the King Country town of Biopio across the Tasman Police

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01:39:16,253 --> 01:39:19,212
Speaker 15: are still scouring mines and caves for the man accused

2187
01:39:19,253 --> 01:39:23,173
Speaker 15: of shooting two officers dead. Dessy Freeman, fled into bushland

2188
01:39:23,253 --> 01:39:27,253
Speaker 15: after the shootings at a property in Regional Victoria. Health

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01:39:27,333 --> 01:39:31,173
Speaker 15: New Zealands expressing deep concern about further nurses strikes. The

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01:39:31,293 --> 01:39:35,852
Speaker 15: nurses organizations planning industrial action next Tuesday and Thursday over

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01:39:35,933 --> 01:39:40,612
Speaker 15: staffing concerns. The Department of Conservations seeking a new commercial

2192
01:39:40,692 --> 01:39:44,372
Speaker 15: operator for the South Island's iconic Molesworth High Country station.

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01:39:44,933 --> 01:39:47,772
Speaker 15: The one hundred and eighty thousand hectare area is owned

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Speaker 15: by the Crown but administered by DOC and leased until

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01:39:50,772 --> 01:39:55,493
Speaker 15: twenty twenty six to PAMU formerly Langkor Inside the Australian

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Speaker 15: Anti Semitic Attacks and Diplomatic Rift. To see more at

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01:39:58,732 --> 01:40:01,572
Speaker 15: enz at Herald Premium. Now back to matte Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Scarlett. We are talking about calorie counting.

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01:40:07,013 --> 01:40:08,892
Speaker 3: It's back in vogue. A lot of people are doing

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01:40:08,933 --> 01:40:11,053
Speaker 3: it and it seems to be quite successful for a

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Speaker 3: few people.

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01:40:11,893 --> 01:40:13,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've made a mistake. Do you need to correct

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01:40:13,933 --> 01:40:15,492
Speaker 2: that now? Is that what you want to do? You

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01:40:15,492 --> 01:40:16,772
Speaker 2: said you have made a mistake. Is that what you

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01:40:16,812 --> 01:40:17,133
Speaker 2: want to do it?

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01:40:17,333 --> 01:40:20,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's pick up on that just before. Yeah, ad

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01:40:20,532 --> 01:40:20,892
Speaker 3: a shame.

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01:40:20,973 --> 01:40:21,213
Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 3: I feel very bad about this because it was a

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01:40:23,253 --> 01:40:25,293
Speaker 3: mistake in the article were we're referencing when we were

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01:40:25,293 --> 01:40:28,133
Speaker 3: talking about hospitality. So I will make that correction in

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01:40:28,333 --> 01:40:32,772
Speaker 3: the next ten minutes. Okay, but the hospitality business and

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01:40:32,853 --> 01:40:34,772
Speaker 3: question are doing fantastic things, so this will be good.

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01:40:34,812 --> 01:40:36,812
Speaker 3: You want to get this, okay, but that is coming

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01:40:36,893 --> 01:40:39,013
Speaker 3: up because we've got full boards at the moment on

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01:40:39,133 --> 01:40:41,372
Speaker 3: people who have been doing a bit of calorie counting.

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01:40:41,692 --> 01:40:44,652
Speaker 2: Okay, so just a description. I kind of messed up

2218
01:40:44,692 --> 01:40:47,133
Speaker 2: my description of how Keto diets work. Keto's work by

2219
01:40:47,173 --> 01:40:49,372
Speaker 2: cutting carbs really low. With no carbs to burn, your

2220
01:40:49,372 --> 01:40:52,932
Speaker 2: body switches to burning fat for energy instead. This makes

2221
01:40:52,973 --> 01:40:55,652
Speaker 2: you use up stored body fat, which leads to weight loss.

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01:40:55,933 --> 01:40:58,572
Speaker 2: When your body burns fat and produces keytones, which are

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01:40:58,692 --> 01:41:01,572
Speaker 2: special molecules your body and brain can use as fuel

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01:41:01,652 --> 01:41:03,492
Speaker 2: instead of sugar, right.

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01:41:03,532 --> 01:41:06,732
Speaker 3: Right, and that makes sense, and then you get Keto breath. Okay, yeah, okay,

2226
01:41:06,853 --> 01:41:09,173
Speaker 3: good to know. How are you?

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01:41:10,133 --> 01:41:12,492
Speaker 21: I'm very well, Tyra and man and I feel like

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01:41:12,572 --> 01:41:16,293
Speaker 21: I'm speaking to Colin, but I'm not anyway, Yes, I know,

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01:41:18,253 --> 01:41:22,492
Speaker 21: I'm talking anyway about wait wat thing I got into

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01:41:22,772 --> 01:41:25,052
Speaker 21: a number of years ago something called food combining.

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01:41:25,692 --> 01:41:27,572
Speaker 12: Okay, you don't you don't.

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01:41:27,532 --> 01:41:30,772
Speaker 21: Mix cabs with protein. So you can eat as many

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01:41:31,133 --> 01:41:33,132
Speaker 21: cabs as you want, but you can't have the cheese

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01:41:33,173 --> 01:41:34,692
Speaker 21: and you can't have your cream and all of that.

2235
01:41:35,253 --> 01:41:37,133
Speaker 21: You can ed as much stages, but like, don you know,

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01:41:37,253 --> 01:41:40,772
Speaker 21: Dom Harvey. He always has a bacon broccoli. That's so

2237
01:41:40,933 --> 01:41:44,053
Speaker 21: food combining is about just combining your cabs with your

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01:41:44,093 --> 01:41:45,692
Speaker 21: carbs and your protein with your protein.

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01:41:46,053 --> 01:41:48,293
Speaker 2: So how far how separate do they have to be?

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Speaker 2: Vonnie like? So, so one for lunch, one for breakfast

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01:41:53,253 --> 01:41:54,532
Speaker 2: one and the different one for lunch.

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01:41:56,013 --> 01:41:57,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't have them in the same meal,

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01:41:57,772 --> 01:42:00,013
Speaker 3: You're right, doesn't matter what time of the day that

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01:42:00,133 --> 01:42:02,133
Speaker 3: you do each of those macros in.

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01:42:02,853 --> 01:42:05,572
Speaker 21: It's interesting, you see that because apparently with water now

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01:42:05,612 --> 01:42:07,892
Speaker 21: and you have to eed that completely separately, like four

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01:42:07,933 --> 01:42:09,692
Speaker 21: hours after you have had boys the meal you have

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01:42:10,053 --> 01:42:14,772
Speaker 21: because watermelon breaks down differently in your body and you

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01:42:14,853 --> 01:42:17,532
Speaker 21: can't hear that. But I did it purely for because

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Speaker 21: I have a homotabolism, so I did it really to

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01:42:20,572 --> 01:42:22,772
Speaker 21: get more energy. Didn't want to lose weight, but I

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01:42:22,812 --> 01:42:23,572
Speaker 21: actually didn't.

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01:42:23,452 --> 01:42:24,812
Speaker 8: End up losing weight with it.

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Speaker 21: So it's called food combining.

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Speaker 6: Look it up.

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Speaker 21: It's really interesting. So that might be quite good for you,

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01:42:29,652 --> 01:42:32,892
Speaker 21: met so you can scoff your face with it whatever

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01:42:32,973 --> 01:42:36,492
Speaker 21: you want to. However, it's just not mixing your carbs

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01:42:36,532 --> 01:42:37,452
Speaker 21: and your protein together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that is that is really interesting because you

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01:42:40,173 --> 01:42:41,972
Speaker 2: do need the carbs, and you do need the proteins,

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01:42:41,973 --> 01:42:42,772
Speaker 2: so you need the cabs with.

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01:42:42,973 --> 01:42:45,572
Speaker 21: Your pose stuff like this peto stuff like new cards.

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01:42:45,612 --> 01:42:48,812
Speaker 21: Well your brain or your body needs cards. Yeah, it's

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01:42:48,812 --> 01:42:49,692
Speaker 21: just food combining.

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Speaker 20: Look it up.

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Speaker 21: I can't remember. I'm trying to think of the name

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01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:53,852
Speaker 21: of the book, and I'm thinking Karen Hay, which I

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01:42:53,933 --> 01:42:55,852
Speaker 21: know isn't Karen Hay, but I think your name was

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01:42:55,933 --> 01:42:58,692
Speaker 21: Paring somebody and that's the book I read, and I'm

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01:42:58,732 --> 01:43:00,972
Speaker 21: talking about twenty years ago. But it's called food combining,

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01:43:01,053 --> 01:43:02,452
Speaker 21: so that might be quite good to use.

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Speaker 2: Look at met Okay, I'll check it out.

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Speaker 21: Good, So kick out food combining. Just make your carbs

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01:43:07,853 --> 01:43:10,012
Speaker 21: for your pro need as much as you wanted your cards,

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01:43:10,652 --> 01:43:13,253
Speaker 21: tack out on your protein, but just don't mix them together.

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01:43:13,412 --> 01:43:16,772
Speaker 21: So no pasta, no state together, no cheese and state together,

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01:43:16,853 --> 01:43:16,973
Speaker 21: you know.

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01:43:17,053 --> 01:43:17,612
Speaker 20: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Do you mean your fits as well? For so fats

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01:43:20,013 --> 01:43:21,812
Speaker 3: are separate as well? Fats are separate as well?

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01:43:22,853 --> 01:43:24,333
Speaker 13: Well, I don't know, I never thought about that.

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01:43:24,532 --> 01:43:25,612
Speaker 21: Well, what do you mean by fats?

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01:43:25,652 --> 01:43:27,692
Speaker 3: Well, you know, like a good avocado, the good fats.

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01:43:28,652 --> 01:43:30,692
Speaker 21: Yeah, well that's got fat. But I don't know because

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01:43:30,732 --> 01:43:32,692
Speaker 21: when I'm talking about like Twiny City is God, I

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01:43:32,772 --> 01:43:33,572
Speaker 21: needed to such days.

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Speaker 16: I don't even know if.

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Speaker 21: If Akado's around, and I guess they were, but I

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01:43:37,732 --> 01:43:39,572
Speaker 21: wasn't really into them enough.

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01:43:39,692 --> 01:43:41,652
Speaker 2: People are way more into avocados than they used to be.

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01:43:41,772 --> 01:43:44,893
Speaker 2: But yes, see for my particularly unique situation I'm in,

2293
01:43:44,973 --> 01:43:48,013
Speaker 2: which is trying to lose weight for marathon, and it's

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01:43:48,093 --> 01:43:50,532
Speaker 2: kind of coming off me anyway because I'm running so

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01:43:50,692 --> 01:43:53,293
Speaker 2: much in the training. But you can't go just for

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01:43:53,372 --> 01:43:55,732
Speaker 2: a pure weight loss, because then you lose muscle and

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01:43:55,853 --> 01:43:58,772
Speaker 2: you'll lose strength and you won't have the energy to

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01:43:58,853 --> 01:44:00,492
Speaker 2: do the running right. Yeah, so you have to get

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01:44:00,492 --> 01:44:02,612
Speaker 2: it right. You have to get get like an Olympic

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01:44:02,692 --> 01:44:04,013
Speaker 2: athletic diet is what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 5: Love it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:44:07,532 --> 01:44:10,972
Speaker 3: call big very shortly. It is twenty one to four.

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01:44:12,053 --> 01:44:14,412
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

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01:44:14,492 --> 01:44:18,172
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talks'd be for a good afternoon due it is nineteen

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Speaker 3: to four now, just before we get back to the

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Speaker 3: calorie counteen I mentioned before, I've got a bit of

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01:44:24,333 --> 01:44:26,212
Speaker 3: a mere culpa to make a bit of an apology.

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Speaker 3: So we're having a great chat about hospitality businesses and

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01:44:30,412 --> 01:44:33,213
Speaker 3: part of the article we were running off it was

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01:44:33,492 --> 01:44:36,853
Speaker 3: an RNZ but it mentioned a very well known hospitality

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01:44:36,933 --> 01:44:40,812
Speaker 3: venue on Ponsonby's Road called Kol, and the story mentioned

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01:44:40,812 --> 01:44:41,972
Speaker 3: it was shutting its doors.

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Speaker 6: It is not.

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01:44:43,253 --> 01:44:45,612
Speaker 3: I mean the current owners shut the door, but they

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01:44:45,732 --> 01:44:48,892
Speaker 3: sold the business. So Kol is still going. It's got

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Speaker 3: new owners and they are still going strong. Still a

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01:44:51,652 --> 01:44:54,492
Speaker 3: fantastic place to go down to support, and they've got

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Speaker 3: an awesome new campaign running at the moment. They're calling

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Speaker 3: it pay as you feel. It's a set menu every

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01:45:00,532 --> 01:45:04,133
Speaker 3: Thursday evening next month in September, in twenty percent of

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01:45:04,213 --> 01:45:07,333
Speaker 3: revenue for those payers you feel are set menus will

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01:45:07,372 --> 01:45:10,612
Speaker 3: be split between for charities close to the new owner's heart.

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Speaker 3: That's key we harvest Starship Foundation, Auckland City Mission and

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01:45:13,893 --> 01:45:15,772
Speaker 3: make a worse New Zealand. So well down, the new

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01:45:15,812 --> 01:45:19,372
Speaker 3: owners of ko our restaurant still going strong and what

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01:45:19,452 --> 01:45:21,532
Speaker 3: a great campaign. So there we go go and support

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01:45:21,572 --> 01:45:24,532
Speaker 3: them and apologies are the Orange he got that wrong.

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01:45:26,013 --> 01:45:29,893
Speaker 2: They led you astray. We'd never made a mistake like that.

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01:45:30,013 --> 01:45:32,333
Speaker 2: Here at newstalk Z'DBNS. It was led down the path

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01:45:32,412 --> 01:45:35,412
Speaker 2: by another media organization for sex. It says, it's always

2333
01:45:35,412 --> 01:45:37,852
Speaker 2: puzzled me why this even needs to be discussed. It's

2334
01:45:37,973 --> 01:45:40,572
Speaker 2: very simple. Eat less and move more. If you're still

2335
01:45:40,612 --> 01:45:43,932
Speaker 2: not losing weight, eat even less or move even more.

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01:45:44,133 --> 01:45:47,253
Speaker 2: It's worked for thousands of years. I mean basically, when

2337
01:45:47,293 --> 01:45:49,333
Speaker 2: it comes down to it, that is the truth. I mean,

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01:45:49,372 --> 01:45:51,732
Speaker 2: if you're doing more and putting less in, then you

2339
01:45:51,772 --> 01:45:54,812
Speaker 2: will lose weight. It really is that. But for some reason,

2340
01:45:54,933 --> 01:45:57,812
Speaker 2: you know these things willpower comes into it as well.

2341
01:45:57,853 --> 01:46:00,372
Speaker 2: And also if you would be run a drill in

2342
01:46:00,933 --> 01:46:03,732
Speaker 2: and you want to treat yourself like a high performance machine,

2343
01:46:04,333 --> 01:46:06,852
Speaker 2: you can look into it with these calorie counters and

2344
01:46:07,372 --> 01:46:09,452
Speaker 2: these food apps and workout so you've got the exact

2345
01:46:09,532 --> 01:46:11,093
Speaker 2: right amount of protein as I was saying before, the

2346
01:46:11,133 --> 01:46:13,692
Speaker 2: exact right amount of carps. You know, everything you need

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01:46:13,853 --> 01:46:17,612
Speaker 2: to operate at peak human efficiency if you really want

2348
01:46:17,652 --> 01:46:20,532
Speaker 2: to lean into it. So you know, eating less and

2349
01:46:20,612 --> 01:46:23,652
Speaker 2: moving war is definitely will will will lose you weight.

2350
01:46:23,853 --> 01:46:25,492
Speaker 3: And also the foods that work for you right, but

2351
01:46:25,572 --> 01:46:26,213
Speaker 3: you might not be.

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01:46:26,293 --> 01:46:29,812
Speaker 2: Running at peak peak marathon running levels a.

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01:46:29,893 --> 01:46:33,213
Speaker 3: Well oiled machine. Speaking about well oiled machines. Holy moly,

2354
01:46:33,293 --> 01:46:35,452
Speaker 3: look at this. So this is going to work well

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01:46:35,492 --> 01:46:37,893
Speaker 3: for your calorie counting. Mate. Andrew has just brought in

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01:46:38,333 --> 01:46:39,732
Speaker 3: two gorgeous looking pizzas.

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01:46:39,812 --> 01:46:41,333
Speaker 2: What are the calories on a slice of pizza?

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01:46:41,333 --> 01:46:41,892
Speaker 8: I look that up.

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01:46:41,893 --> 01:46:44,452
Speaker 3: We'll just have to take too many. We'll just have

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01:46:44,532 --> 01:46:45,812
Speaker 3: to take a photo of that and run it through

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01:46:45,812 --> 01:46:48,612
Speaker 3: the system. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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01:46:48,692 --> 01:46:51,372
Speaker 3: the number to call. So there's two different slices? Are

2363
01:46:51,372 --> 01:46:53,213
Speaker 3: they the same? Andrew? I think they might be different.

2364
01:46:53,253 --> 01:46:54,372
Speaker 3: So what have we got there? We're going to meet

2365
01:46:54,412 --> 01:46:57,372
Speaker 3: lovers That looks like a bit of avocado. Oh no, no,

2366
01:46:57,452 --> 01:46:58,132
Speaker 3: that's keepsican.

2367
01:46:58,492 --> 01:47:01,333
Speaker 2: We're looking. We're looking about six hundred cows there, so

2368
01:47:01,452 --> 01:47:03,213
Speaker 2: out of my twenty two hundred, I'm trying to have

2369
01:47:03,213 --> 01:47:06,692
Speaker 2: a day at the moment with this new system to do,

2370
01:47:06,812 --> 01:47:09,253
Speaker 2: I want to spend six hundred on those.

2371
01:47:09,372 --> 01:47:11,133
Speaker 3: I think you want to go there, I'll have them,

2372
01:47:11,173 --> 01:47:16,612
Speaker 3: both of you right with the phones? Are let up here? Denise?

2373
01:47:16,652 --> 01:47:18,173
Speaker 3: How are you good?

2374
01:47:18,293 --> 01:47:18,572
Speaker 13: Thank you?

2375
01:47:20,093 --> 01:47:21,612
Speaker 8: So I have.

2376
01:47:23,293 --> 01:47:27,173
Speaker 22: I say I'm the first time caller. I have lost

2377
01:47:27,412 --> 01:47:33,013
Speaker 22: fifteen kgs calorie counting after doing for many years. I'm

2378
01:47:33,093 --> 01:47:37,452
Speaker 22: in menopause and it's just herrendous trying to lose weight,

2379
01:47:38,173 --> 01:47:42,652
Speaker 22: and I've yeah, so I've lost fifteen kgs and now

2380
01:47:42,692 --> 01:47:45,692
Speaker 22: my calorie counters down to twelve hundred calories and I'm

2381
01:47:45,893 --> 01:47:46,892
Speaker 22: starving NonStop.

2382
01:47:47,853 --> 01:47:48,093
Speaker 3: Wow.

2383
01:47:48,173 --> 01:47:51,532
Speaker 2: So you yeah, so you're you've been allocated twelve hundred

2384
01:47:51,612 --> 01:47:54,892
Speaker 2: calories because mine's like two minds. You know, pretty much

2385
01:47:54,893 --> 01:47:58,333
Speaker 2: twice there that I'm allocated to eat to lose weight.

2386
01:47:58,412 --> 01:48:01,732
Speaker 2: That's interesting. So twelve hundred twelve hundred seems hard.

2387
01:48:02,692 --> 01:48:03,732
Speaker 6: It's very hard.

2388
01:48:03,853 --> 01:48:07,053
Speaker 22: And look, you go to the absolute extremes of like

2389
01:48:07,893 --> 01:48:10,892
Speaker 22: I've got onto low car breed, but now I can't

2390
01:48:10,973 --> 01:48:13,132
Speaker 22: stand the stuff. So I've now got to find something

2391
01:48:13,213 --> 01:48:16,093
Speaker 22: that's slightly less than that but will still give me.

2392
01:48:17,652 --> 01:48:18,412
Speaker 6: But some pieces.

2393
01:48:18,532 --> 01:48:20,772
Speaker 22: And I want to lose another ten kg. So it's

2394
01:48:21,173 --> 01:48:24,293
Speaker 22: it's going to be it's ultra task. It's taken me

2395
01:48:24,452 --> 01:48:26,852
Speaker 22: about eight months to lose fifteen kgs.

2396
01:48:27,572 --> 01:48:30,092
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good though. That's a good, good, healthy

2397
01:48:30,612 --> 01:48:32,372
Speaker 2: lost rate, you know what I mean. Any faster than

2398
01:48:32,452 --> 01:48:34,933
Speaker 2: that and you're probably just losing burning a lot, a

2399
01:48:34,973 --> 01:48:37,932
Speaker 2: whole lot of muscle off. But once you reach that level, Denise,

2400
01:48:38,013 --> 01:48:40,732
Speaker 2: that you want to get to what's your plan? Then

2401
01:48:41,213 --> 01:48:43,012
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it kind of always

2402
01:48:43,013 --> 01:48:47,093
Speaker 2: seems with diets for me that you know, if there's

2403
01:48:47,093 --> 01:48:50,812
Speaker 2: a goal that you get to, then then you can

2404
01:48:50,853 --> 01:48:53,013
Speaker 2: easily start to break that. But don't you need to

2405
01:48:53,053 --> 01:48:54,412
Speaker 2: make a decision that this is what I'm going to

2406
01:48:54,452 --> 01:48:56,372
Speaker 2: be for life? You see what I'm saying.

2407
01:48:57,173 --> 01:49:00,213
Speaker 22: Yeah, And just because as you get older, it's just

2408
01:49:00,333 --> 01:49:02,612
Speaker 22: harder and harder. And I don't want to be a

2409
01:49:02,692 --> 01:49:06,013
Speaker 22: really obese elderly person because of all the pressure that

2410
01:49:06,093 --> 01:49:09,133
Speaker 22: it puts. Because I developed with the weight i'd gained,

2411
01:49:09,173 --> 01:49:12,532
Speaker 22: I had developed sleept me and I had developed a

2412
01:49:12,572 --> 01:49:14,692
Speaker 22: whole lot of health conditions that now I've lost all

2413
01:49:14,732 --> 01:49:17,812
Speaker 22: that weight, that's all gone. So I do feel better,

2414
01:49:17,973 --> 01:49:21,293
Speaker 22: and I do physically my body's better, but I just

2415
01:49:21,973 --> 01:49:23,692
Speaker 22: I just starve, or I feel like I.

2416
01:49:23,812 --> 01:49:27,412
Speaker 3: Just starve, so that that fairly never goes away. You

2417
01:49:27,452 --> 01:49:29,692
Speaker 3: don't acclimatize to that that hunger at all.

2418
01:49:30,652 --> 01:49:33,173
Speaker 22: No, I haven't yet. People tell me that I will,

2419
01:49:33,372 --> 01:49:35,532
Speaker 22: but I'm just wishing it to come quick.

2420
01:49:35,732 --> 01:49:38,133
Speaker 2: Has anyone said this to you, Denise, Denise, this is

2421
01:49:38,173 --> 01:49:40,093
Speaker 2: what I was told by my partner the other day.

2422
01:49:40,213 --> 01:49:42,892
Speaker 2: You're not hungry, you're thirsty. And that's made a huge

2423
01:49:42,933 --> 01:49:46,692
Speaker 2: difference for me because because our bodies are so useless

2424
01:49:47,013 --> 01:49:48,973
Speaker 2: at giving the right signals off that often when we

2425
01:49:49,053 --> 01:49:51,612
Speaker 2: feel hungry, we're actually thirsty.

2426
01:49:52,213 --> 01:49:53,452
Speaker 22: And yeah, no, look.

2427
01:49:55,213 --> 01:49:57,652
Speaker 2: You go, Denis, No, like I.

2428
01:49:57,692 --> 01:50:01,932
Speaker 22: Do, drink a lot of water as well. But yeah,

2429
01:50:01,973 --> 01:50:05,492
Speaker 22: it's it doesn't because, as I say, it's like, you know,

2430
01:50:05,772 --> 01:50:08,572
Speaker 22: when you work it out, if you worked on three

2431
01:50:08,652 --> 01:50:11,572
Speaker 22: hundred and fifty calories for breakfast, three hundred and fifty

2432
01:50:11,612 --> 01:50:15,572
Speaker 22: calories for lunch, it's even hundred and you have and

2433
01:50:15,853 --> 01:50:19,412
Speaker 22: have a meal, you know you basically, I mean I

2434
01:50:19,772 --> 01:50:22,452
Speaker 22: live a lot on salad because it's really really low

2435
01:50:22,893 --> 01:50:25,093
Speaker 22: and but you know, it doesn't fill you up for

2436
01:50:25,213 --> 01:50:28,052
Speaker 22: long or yeah, you know, sustain you for long periods

2437
01:50:28,093 --> 01:50:28,372
Speaker 22: of time.

2438
01:50:29,173 --> 01:50:30,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, well well done, Denise.

2439
01:50:30,652 --> 01:50:31,973
Speaker 2: All the best on that keeping that up.

2440
01:50:32,053 --> 01:50:36,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, Goodlucke. The problem with salad is its lame, so tasteless.

2441
01:50:37,572 --> 01:50:39,372
Speaker 2: And you go out and you meet your friends and

2442
01:50:39,412 --> 01:50:41,612
Speaker 2: they're all having steak and chips, Yeah, and you go

2443
01:50:41,973 --> 01:50:45,173
Speaker 2: just the salad things. You just you feel like you

2444
01:50:45,253 --> 01:50:49,213
Speaker 2: feel like you've been deflated. Yeah, you feel just depressed and.

2445
01:50:49,973 --> 01:50:51,932
Speaker 3: You see the stairs that you're like, come on mate,

2446
01:50:52,053 --> 01:50:53,293
Speaker 3: just a salad, treat yourself.

2447
01:50:53,572 --> 01:50:55,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then someone will say, yeah, well you know

2448
01:50:55,492 --> 01:50:57,612
Speaker 2: you sell has got heaps of mayonnaise in't it, and

2449
01:50:57,652 --> 01:50:58,732
Speaker 2: it's just as bad for you as Then you go,

2450
01:50:58,772 --> 01:51:00,812
Speaker 2: really one of mons? Want I had the steak, that's

2451
01:51:00,853 --> 01:51:03,293
Speaker 2: the good stuff to mayo. Hey, guys, I did Calorie

2452
01:51:03,293 --> 01:51:05,532
Speaker 2: County for years on and off. If you were strict cows,

2453
01:51:05,572 --> 01:51:07,492
Speaker 2: you lose weight. It's a numbers game, but you can't

2454
01:51:07,492 --> 01:51:09,372
Speaker 2: sustain it for long terms. See that's the problem.

2455
01:51:09,452 --> 01:51:09,572
Speaker 8: You know.

2456
01:51:10,893 --> 01:51:12,692
Speaker 2: You have to you know, a diet. If you want

2457
01:51:12,692 --> 01:51:13,852
Speaker 2: to do a diet, it has to be something that

2458
01:51:13,893 --> 01:51:15,173
Speaker 2: you can do for the rest of your life. Yeah,

2459
01:51:15,213 --> 01:51:18,133
Speaker 2: otherwise you're going to get to that goal and then

2460
01:51:18,532 --> 01:51:19,852
Speaker 2: what do you do there? You just go, I give

2461
01:51:19,933 --> 01:51:21,053
Speaker 2: up there and I go all the way back.

2462
01:51:21,093 --> 01:51:24,452
Speaker 3: It's like that documentary that is now on Netflex about

2463
01:51:24,452 --> 01:51:27,852
Speaker 3: the Biggest Loser. I believe it was ninety five percent

2464
01:51:27,933 --> 01:51:30,093
Speaker 3: of all those people who lost a ridiculous amount of

2465
01:51:30,133 --> 01:51:31,333
Speaker 3: weight they put it back on.

2466
01:51:32,253 --> 01:51:35,412
Speaker 2: This Callum says, I use Microsoft Copilot, which not only

2467
01:51:35,492 --> 01:51:37,932
Speaker 2: tracks and takes and calories, but also tracks your sodium

2468
01:51:37,973 --> 01:51:41,333
Speaker 2: and potassium arc and then life lifestyle like going for

2469
01:51:41,372 --> 01:51:44,093
Speaker 2: a run. It's probably not perfect, but I've learned a

2470
01:51:44,173 --> 01:51:45,612
Speaker 2: lot and built discipline around it.

2471
01:51:45,772 --> 01:51:50,012
Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, good use of that, Philip. You lost twenty

2472
01:51:50,253 --> 01:51:51,732
Speaker 3: kg's in two months?

2473
01:51:53,173 --> 01:51:53,372
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2474
01:51:54,213 --> 01:51:54,652
Speaker 4: Hey was that?

2475
01:51:55,093 --> 01:51:58,053
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound healthy? But tell us how you did it?

2476
01:51:59,133 --> 01:52:01,532
Speaker 11: All right? So I'm going to slip your what you've

2477
01:52:01,572 --> 01:52:04,852
Speaker 11: been talking about on a tead To actually lose weight,

2478
01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:07,133
Speaker 11: You've got to eat more, right, but you've got to

2479
01:52:07,173 --> 01:52:09,933
Speaker 11: eat the right stuff, all right. And the trick is

2480
01:52:10,053 --> 01:52:15,372
Speaker 11: this that if you're eating and you're not hungry, then

2481
01:52:15,412 --> 01:52:18,412
Speaker 11: what's happening is your metabolism actually goes up and so

2482
01:52:18,532 --> 01:52:21,412
Speaker 11: you actually start burning more, so you turn your body

2483
01:52:21,452 --> 01:52:22,092
Speaker 11: into a furnace.

2484
01:52:22,213 --> 01:52:22,333
Speaker 5: Right.

2485
01:52:22,812 --> 01:52:25,893
Speaker 11: And the idea that if you are starving yourself, what

2486
01:52:26,093 --> 01:52:29,253
Speaker 11: happens is your body goes I'm starving, so there's obviously

2487
01:52:29,333 --> 01:52:31,612
Speaker 11: not a lot of food around, so there's a femine

2488
01:52:31,652 --> 01:52:34,892
Speaker 11: going on. So I need to slow my metabolism down

2489
01:52:35,293 --> 01:52:36,932
Speaker 11: and I'm not going to burn the body fat as

2490
01:52:37,013 --> 01:52:39,253
Speaker 11: faster as fast because I need to hold onto that

2491
01:52:39,372 --> 01:52:40,852
Speaker 11: body fat to survive.

2492
01:52:41,412 --> 01:52:42,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that makes sense.

2493
01:52:43,013 --> 01:52:46,333
Speaker 11: My one wiks The other way around, you actually eat more,

2494
01:52:47,053 --> 01:52:50,532
Speaker 11: but you're instead of having three meals a day to

2495
01:52:50,652 --> 01:52:53,852
Speaker 11: do six, or you actually do snacks in between. So

2496
01:52:54,452 --> 01:52:58,333
Speaker 11: a really good you know, actually you're talking about stakes before.

2497
01:52:58,973 --> 01:53:02,253
Speaker 11: I love mistakes, but I changed all with that. I

2498
01:53:02,372 --> 01:53:04,333
Speaker 11: actually have my steak in the morning. I have steak

2499
01:53:04,333 --> 01:53:06,252
Speaker 11: and eggs in the morning. I have steak at lunchtime.

2500
01:53:06,492 --> 01:53:08,532
Speaker 11: I don't have steak at night. And the reason why

2501
01:53:08,532 --> 01:53:10,452
Speaker 11: you don't have steak at night as it takes a

2502
01:53:10,572 --> 01:53:13,492
Speaker 11: long time to digest. And so what's happening is when

2503
01:53:13,532 --> 01:53:16,932
Speaker 11: you go to sleep, you've still got steak in the stomach, right,

2504
01:53:17,293 --> 01:53:19,852
Speaker 11: and your body goes to sleep and your digestion goes

2505
01:53:19,893 --> 01:53:22,333
Speaker 11: to sleep, and all you're eating up with is taking

2506
01:53:22,372 --> 01:53:24,812
Speaker 11: your stomach that's rotting and you're not getting any nutrition out.

2507
01:53:24,973 --> 01:53:25,893
Speaker 12: So why by the doing it?

2508
01:53:26,612 --> 01:53:28,772
Speaker 11: So just change it up and have your steak in

2509
01:53:28,853 --> 01:53:32,372
Speaker 11: the morning where you can actually burn that with your.

2510
01:53:35,013 --> 01:53:38,333
Speaker 2: Learned recently Philip about the that you know you need

2511
01:53:38,412 --> 01:53:40,892
Speaker 2: to be walking around and upright to do proper digesting,

2512
01:53:40,933 --> 01:53:42,972
Speaker 2: and that's part of the reason why we get jet lag.

2513
01:53:43,412 --> 01:53:45,452
Speaker 2: So that that for that, that's the same thing with

2514
01:53:45,532 --> 01:53:46,933
Speaker 2: your steak things. So if you eat it, you need

2515
01:53:46,973 --> 01:53:50,133
Speaker 2: to be walking around so so that that gravity can

2516
01:53:50,213 --> 01:53:52,692
Speaker 2: help with the digestion exactly.

2517
01:53:52,812 --> 01:53:55,812
Speaker 11: So I'm a pilot so that the thing that I

2518
01:53:56,013 --> 01:53:59,492
Speaker 11: learned as well, I went on a program it's called

2519
01:53:59,652 --> 01:54:01,572
Speaker 11: it sort of gut health. So it's about this gut

2520
01:54:01,612 --> 01:54:04,053
Speaker 11: health thing that everybody's going on about, and it really

2521
01:54:04,133 --> 01:54:06,892
Speaker 11: does work. It looks at what's going into your gap.

2522
01:54:07,053 --> 01:54:09,652
Speaker 11: And what we do is initially you take oil out

2523
01:54:09,692 --> 01:54:12,692
Speaker 11: of your diet because it's coaching the outside of your

2524
01:54:12,973 --> 01:54:15,652
Speaker 11: your dat which has a little ability that takes some

2525
01:54:15,732 --> 01:54:17,853
Speaker 11: of the nutrition from your food and all your supplements.

2526
01:54:18,333 --> 01:54:20,692
Speaker 11: And again you need to probably have proper supplements because

2527
01:54:21,253 --> 01:54:25,852
Speaker 11: as you're changing your diet there's certain things that your

2528
01:54:25,893 --> 01:54:27,972
Speaker 11: body needs that you need to supplement.

2529
01:54:29,692 --> 01:54:31,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, Philip, great to chat with you. Thank you very much.

2530
01:54:32,173 --> 01:54:33,772
Speaker 2: Don't eat more, eat more often?

2531
01:54:34,053 --> 01:54:36,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. Right, it is eight minutes to

2532
01:54:36,573 --> 01:54:38,493
Speaker 3: fall back very shortly. You're listening to Matt and Tyler

2533
01:54:39,493 --> 01:54:40,092
Speaker 3: the big.

2534
01:54:40,013 --> 01:54:43,613
Speaker 1: Stories, the big issues, to the big trends and everything

2535
01:54:43,653 --> 01:54:47,733
Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd.

2536
01:54:47,573 --> 01:54:50,772
Speaker 3: Be great discussion. It turns out a lot of support

2537
01:54:50,812 --> 01:54:51,812
Speaker 3: for calorie counting works.

2538
01:54:52,013 --> 01:54:53,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of ideas out there. I think we

2539
01:54:53,973 --> 01:54:56,052
Speaker 2: could have done three hours on this. We've got backed

2540
01:54:56,093 --> 01:54:58,973
Speaker 2: up calls, thousands of texts, but it turns out we

2541
01:54:59,053 --> 01:55:00,333
Speaker 2: haven't solved the dieting situation.

2542
01:55:00,573 --> 01:55:04,453
Speaker 3: No, no, love it right. So we were talking a

2543
01:55:04,493 --> 01:55:07,173
Speaker 3: little bit earlier this week about traveling with friends and

2544
01:55:07,333 --> 01:55:11,213
Speaker 3: we had a hall from Anne who traveled with friends

2545
01:55:11,293 --> 01:55:13,893
Speaker 3: to RaRo. Had a great time away apart from the

2546
01:55:14,013 --> 01:55:16,852
Speaker 3: last day when her husband got sick and things took

2547
01:55:16,853 --> 01:55:18,693
Speaker 3: a turn. This is our caller of the week.

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01:55:19,173 --> 01:55:22,733
Speaker 19: We got back to New Zealand my husband was an ICU.

2549
01:55:23,213 --> 01:55:25,373
Speaker 19: What had happened is he got a threat to cocker,

2550
01:55:25,533 --> 01:55:30,013
Speaker 19: a infection which had gotten through a mosquito bites. He

2551
01:55:30,173 --> 01:55:32,333
Speaker 19: ended up with necrotizing fasciitis.

2552
01:55:32,973 --> 01:55:36,772
Speaker 2: Geez, yeah, I know, so he had and he came

2553
01:55:36,853 --> 01:55:39,932
Speaker 2: right that it was it all right in the end kind.

2554
01:55:39,772 --> 01:55:43,173
Speaker 19: Of he's lost both leggs below the names and he's

2555
01:55:43,253 --> 01:55:45,293
Speaker 19: lost all his fingertips.

2556
01:55:46,013 --> 01:55:52,092
Speaker 2: From from from that bite and yees, oh my goodness, Sleepers.

2557
01:55:53,253 --> 01:55:56,173
Speaker 19: We're getting on with it, but we're still really good

2558
01:55:56,253 --> 01:55:58,932
Speaker 19: friends with their friends. We go away a lot with them.

2559
01:55:59,013 --> 01:56:01,653
Speaker 19: We spend a lot of time with them, but that holiday,

2560
01:56:01,812 --> 01:56:04,892
Speaker 19: the end of it was an extraordinary son.

2561
01:56:05,373 --> 01:56:08,133
Speaker 2: I got to say the the positive attitude. After that,

2562
01:56:08,333 --> 01:56:10,373
Speaker 2: we had to talk about Raratonga and then she says

2563
01:56:10,413 --> 01:56:13,453
Speaker 2: what happened, and oh my god, what a great New

2564
01:56:13,533 --> 01:56:17,772
Speaker 2: Zealander she is. To keep that attitude, Higgs and finger

2565
01:56:17,812 --> 01:56:21,413
Speaker 2: tips incredible. The full Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast will

2566
01:56:21,413 --> 01:56:23,253
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2567
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2568
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2569
01:56:28,573 --> 01:56:31,573
Speaker 2: is up next. But Tyler, my good buddy, tell me

2570
01:56:31,772 --> 01:56:33,373
Speaker 2: why am I playing this song here?

2571
01:56:33,893 --> 01:56:34,093
Speaker 4: Ah?

2572
01:56:34,213 --> 01:56:39,253
Speaker 3: But unskinny bot I poison calorie counting. That will get

2573
01:56:39,293 --> 01:56:41,213
Speaker 3: your pretty unskinny.

2574
01:56:41,493 --> 01:56:43,493
Speaker 2: Probably the first time anyone who had poisoned.

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Speaker 3: For a while. Great Gatune.

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Speaker 2: All right, have a great weekend. Anyone have a great weekend.

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