1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:12,693 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks EDB. Follow 2 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:18,693 Speaker 1: this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio The. 3 00:00:18,533 --> 00:00:22,613 Speaker 2: Big League Podcast League Podcast by News Talks EDB. 4 00:00:24,093 --> 00:00:27,653 Speaker 3: This week on The Big League Podcast, Warriors halfback Luke 5 00:00:27,813 --> 00:00:30,773 Speaker 3: Metcalf reflects on the stunning come from behind victory over 6 00:00:30,773 --> 00:00:34,173 Speaker 3: the Wests Tigers in Sydney. Three wins in a row. 7 00:00:34,693 --> 00:00:37,893 Speaker 3: Alex powers and off the interchange for Michael Burgess as 8 00:00:37,933 --> 00:00:40,653 Speaker 3: we dissect where this team is a heading into the 9 00:00:40,693 --> 00:00:45,333 Speaker 3: by my name is Nathan Limb. Let's go good b LV. 10 00:00:46,373 --> 00:00:49,253 Speaker 3: For just the fifth time in history, the Warriors are 11 00:00:49,413 --> 00:00:54,573 Speaker 3: three and one to start the season. Grit, grit and composure, 12 00:00:54,613 --> 00:00:58,613 Speaker 3: the two qualities which for me typify an unlikely comeback 13 00:00:58,693 --> 00:01:01,573 Speaker 3: win over the Tigers in Western Sydney. They were down 14 00:01:01,653 --> 00:01:05,413 Speaker 3: and out, the Tigers six points up, bearing down on 15 00:01:05,453 --> 00:01:08,013 Speaker 3: the Warriors tri line, but with a little luck they 16 00:01:08,053 --> 00:01:12,093 Speaker 3: refer used to crack a breathtaking cameo from nineteen year 17 00:01:12,093 --> 00:01:16,573 Speaker 3: old Lequa Halaesima, evading three defenders for his maiden NRL try. 18 00:01:16,613 --> 00:01:19,213 Speaker 3: He should have run it under the posts, yes, but 19 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:22,293 Speaker 3: in a way that gave Luke Metcalf even more of 20 00:01:22,293 --> 00:01:25,893 Speaker 3: a platform to display his calmness, nailing the conversion on 21 00:01:26,013 --> 00:01:29,253 Speaker 3: the angle in difficult conditions to tie the game, and 22 00:01:29,293 --> 00:01:32,693 Speaker 3: then slotting the match winning penalty from forty meters out. 23 00:01:33,213 --> 00:01:36,213 Speaker 3: Alex Powell, You, Zeeland Herald ride up. What impressed you 24 00:01:36,293 --> 00:01:38,213 Speaker 3: most about this performance? 25 00:01:38,493 --> 00:01:40,893 Speaker 4: You've sort of hit the nail on the head right there. 26 00:01:40,933 --> 00:01:43,013 Speaker 4: It was the great it was the determination. That's two 27 00:01:43,173 --> 00:01:45,453 Speaker 4: ugly wins on the bounce for the Warriors. You know, 28 00:01:45,533 --> 00:01:47,653 Speaker 4: they say the difference between a good team and a 29 00:01:47,693 --> 00:01:50,933 Speaker 4: great team as the ability to win ugly, and that's 30 00:01:50,973 --> 00:01:54,013 Speaker 4: what they've now done twice. 31 00:01:54,053 --> 00:01:56,573 Speaker 3: There are numerous players who stood out. We're going to 32 00:01:56,653 --> 00:01:59,093 Speaker 3: go through the game in detail later, but give me 33 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:00,893 Speaker 3: one player that had your attention. 34 00:02:02,373 --> 00:02:04,813 Speaker 4: For different reasons. I really liked what Wade Egan did 35 00:02:04,893 --> 00:02:06,973 Speaker 4: last night. I think that it's so easy to have 36 00:02:06,973 --> 00:02:09,213 Speaker 4: a look Wade Egan because he's doing it for so long. 37 00:02:09,213 --> 00:02:11,053 Speaker 4: But I think he might have actually gone to another 38 00:02:11,133 --> 00:02:12,173 Speaker 4: level to start this season. 39 00:02:12,333 --> 00:02:14,853 Speaker 3: You yeah, I think so as well. Just the amount 40 00:02:14,853 --> 00:02:16,373 Speaker 3: of sp I mean, we talked about it last year 41 00:02:16,373 --> 00:02:18,533 Speaker 3: and he has been doing this for years, but the 42 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:21,013 Speaker 3: amount of space he's able to create around the ruck 43 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:22,693 Speaker 3: and We're going to hear from Luke Metcalf in a 44 00:02:22,693 --> 00:02:26,413 Speaker 3: bit as well about that. But his combination as well, 45 00:02:26,453 --> 00:02:29,733 Speaker 3: that the spine working between Chanell, Harris Dedvid and Luke Metcalff, 46 00:02:29,773 --> 00:02:32,453 Speaker 3: and the lead up to Luke Metcalf's trike was Egan, Chanell, 47 00:02:32,933 --> 00:02:35,973 Speaker 3: Luke Try and that comes from the space that he's 48 00:02:36,093 --> 00:02:39,813 Speaker 3: able to create and the Warriors are really utilizing that 49 00:02:40,013 --> 00:02:43,933 Speaker 3: and it's coming up trumps and what a victory. What 50 00:02:43,973 --> 00:02:46,653 Speaker 3: a victory that gets you hot, that should get you 51 00:02:46,893 --> 00:02:50,213 Speaker 3: very very excited as a Warriors fan. But we're going 52 00:02:50,253 --> 00:02:52,813 Speaker 3: to hear from as I said, Luke Metcalf shortly. But 53 00:02:52,853 --> 00:02:57,613 Speaker 3: first here are the highlights Warriors twenty six Tigers twenty four. 54 00:02:58,053 --> 00:02:59,133 Speaker 5: The Tiger's kickoff. 55 00:02:59,133 --> 00:03:02,093 Speaker 6: Here we go comes out here to Pumpy stept away 56 00:03:02,133 --> 00:03:07,333 Speaker 6: from Ballet and Gavin Puller. He'll reach out and plan 57 00:03:07,493 --> 00:03:09,253 Speaker 6: it down side the fire. 58 00:03:09,333 --> 00:03:11,093 Speaker 5: There's another set race done. 59 00:03:11,253 --> 00:03:12,573 Speaker 3: He crashes through. 60 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:14,573 Speaker 5: He's Egan has a bit of. 61 00:03:14,493 --> 00:03:17,493 Speaker 6: Talk about here in a moment, including this Minifi and 62 00:03:17,613 --> 00:03:21,933 Speaker 6: the Runoleo tore try for the Warriors outside was stuff 63 00:03:21,973 --> 00:03:26,413 Speaker 6: with tower. He'll run away and score against the run 64 00:03:26,413 --> 00:03:30,533 Speaker 6: of plays of Caunter attack by the Tigers one on 65 00:03:30,693 --> 00:03:33,973 Speaker 6: que Egan makes a break his Harris de Vita and 66 00:03:34,133 --> 00:03:38,853 Speaker 6: then Metcalf the Tiger's defense shut the bits, blue wife 67 00:03:38,853 --> 00:03:43,733 Speaker 6: for Galvin Brothers, A real chance for type. They converts it. 68 00:03:45,333 --> 00:03:49,653 Speaker 6: Lovely kick comes to La too Faero, who sees a 69 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:54,293 Speaker 6: quite now to a piggy down the edge. Calasiva is 70 00:03:54,293 --> 00:03:58,653 Speaker 6: the way showing speed coming across Buller is there, can't 71 00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:03,733 Speaker 6: get to him. Calasiva bats two. He kisses, points to 72 00:04:03,813 --> 00:04:08,213 Speaker 6: the sky and scores a reloveable try for the Warriors. 73 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:09,413 Speaker 5: That's unbelievable. 74 00:04:09,413 --> 00:04:13,293 Speaker 6: What about that he hits the shoulders there, say fer 75 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:14,933 Speaker 6: he was in a wrapping motion. 76 00:04:16,413 --> 00:04:17,733 Speaker 5: I reckon, I get the penalty here. 77 00:04:19,813 --> 00:04:23,693 Speaker 6: Strike is good, the distance is not an issue and 78 00:04:23,813 --> 00:04:27,373 Speaker 6: the flags go in the air at full time. The 79 00:04:27,413 --> 00:04:31,653 Speaker 6: Warriors twenty six have beaten the Tigers twenty four. 80 00:04:32,133 --> 00:04:37,613 Speaker 3: Audio Curtesy of sky Sport Big League Podcast. Michael Burgess 81 00:04:37,733 --> 00:04:41,013 Speaker 3: is absent today but has hustled superbly to get a 82 00:04:41,093 --> 00:04:43,973 Speaker 3: quick chat to Luke Metcalf over the phone. Let's take 83 00:04:44,013 --> 00:04:44,413 Speaker 3: a listen. 84 00:04:44,973 --> 00:04:46,533 Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on the meta as the hell 85 00:04:46,573 --> 00:04:47,173 Speaker 5: of a way to win? 86 00:04:48,213 --> 00:04:50,453 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, it was good to win like that. 87 00:04:50,653 --> 00:04:53,453 Speaker 7: Obviously replayed really good in parts and some parts we 88 00:04:53,493 --> 00:04:55,453 Speaker 7: can get a lot better up, but it's always nice 89 00:04:55,493 --> 00:04:57,093 Speaker 7: to win at the end of the day. 90 00:04:57,693 --> 00:04:59,613 Speaker 8: What was going through your mind is you stepped up 91 00:05:00,013 --> 00:05:02,173 Speaker 8: to take their penalty at the end. 92 00:05:03,933 --> 00:05:06,053 Speaker 7: About I've done, I've done. Hey, you so much practice? 93 00:05:06,573 --> 00:05:09,453 Speaker 7: Just yeah, just doing normals. Just go through my process 94 00:05:09,453 --> 00:05:12,133 Speaker 7: and then just try and nail it to put us ahead. 95 00:05:12,813 --> 00:05:15,733 Speaker 7: Nothing too crazy to go, I'll to our minders what 96 00:05:15,893 --> 00:05:16,893 Speaker 7: I do every kick. 97 00:05:17,013 --> 00:05:20,653 Speaker 8: Pretty much because you look really confident though, I mean 98 00:05:20,693 --> 00:05:23,213 Speaker 8: there was there was talk the commentators are thinking, oh, 99 00:05:23,253 --> 00:05:24,973 Speaker 8: the Warriors might go for the corner here, but you 100 00:05:25,053 --> 00:05:27,693 Speaker 8: looked really confident the had of that kick. 101 00:05:28,493 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, I was confident. I knew that I 102 00:05:31,813 --> 00:05:33,373 Speaker 7: myself to be able to get out a little bit 103 00:05:33,373 --> 00:05:35,293 Speaker 7: we need, but I knew that I'd be fine. 104 00:05:35,933 --> 00:05:38,813 Speaker 8: And as you say, really important was what does this 105 00:05:38,893 --> 00:05:40,733 Speaker 8: result mean for the team? 106 00:05:40,853 --> 00:05:43,213 Speaker 5: Three on the bounce and winning like this ahead of 107 00:05:43,213 --> 00:05:43,453 Speaker 5: the buy. 108 00:05:45,293 --> 00:05:48,573 Speaker 7: Yeah, they said I'd cliche four four point week and 109 00:05:48,813 --> 00:05:50,133 Speaker 7: you know you're going to the buy and you get 110 00:05:50,133 --> 00:05:53,373 Speaker 7: it to automate two points there. So yeah, it's awesome 111 00:05:53,453 --> 00:05:55,653 Speaker 7: to get the win going into the buy and that 112 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:57,653 Speaker 7: gives this at the conference. Three wins on the trun 113 00:05:57,733 --> 00:05:59,813 Speaker 7: and we've still got a lot that we can improve on. 114 00:06:00,293 --> 00:06:02,333 Speaker 7: Exciting farm for the future games. 115 00:06:03,453 --> 00:06:06,013 Speaker 8: How are you feeling midway through the second half? Look 116 00:06:06,053 --> 00:06:08,693 Speaker 8: when the Tigers had really come back into the match? 117 00:06:10,093 --> 00:06:12,333 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they feel they were kind of really wrong, 118 00:06:12,333 --> 00:06:15,213 Speaker 7: and probably about fifteen minutes into our second half that 119 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:17,213 Speaker 7: was looking really look good. I felt we just had 120 00:06:17,213 --> 00:06:19,733 Speaker 7: to hang in with them and just and just again, 121 00:06:19,813 --> 00:06:21,933 Speaker 7: and we will confident that we would be able to 122 00:06:21,973 --> 00:06:23,173 Speaker 7: come over him in the end. We just had to 123 00:06:23,173 --> 00:06:24,893 Speaker 7: stay posing in the moment and just focus what we 124 00:06:24,933 --> 00:06:26,173 Speaker 7: can what we can. 125 00:06:26,133 --> 00:06:30,413 Speaker 8: Control on some crucial decisions as well. And I guess 126 00:06:30,413 --> 00:06:35,533 Speaker 8: that how important was that Tarrell May dropping the ball 127 00:06:35,573 --> 00:06:36,333 Speaker 8: over the line? 128 00:06:37,213 --> 00:06:40,213 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was good for us. I didn't even see 129 00:06:40,213 --> 00:06:41,973 Speaker 7: the replay. I just said the reaction and I went 130 00:06:42,013 --> 00:06:45,333 Speaker 7: straight up to the bunker and I didn't even actually 131 00:06:45,413 --> 00:06:47,453 Speaker 7: could I think all the voice were saying it knock on, 132 00:06:47,573 --> 00:06:50,213 Speaker 7: So yeah, I just I actually can see it live, 133 00:06:50,693 --> 00:06:52,213 Speaker 7: so I don't even really know. 134 00:06:54,053 --> 00:06:55,973 Speaker 8: And can you just tell us about your view of 135 00:06:56,613 --> 00:07:00,093 Speaker 8: lekus try a remarkable if by the young guy. 136 00:07:01,093 --> 00:07:03,293 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was awesome, mom, I thought was just canning 137 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:08,613 Speaker 7: May close to the post. That was awesome. Squad first 138 00:07:08,653 --> 00:07:11,413 Speaker 7: front and roll like that. That's find of the first 139 00:07:11,493 --> 00:07:14,093 Speaker 7: trive of all time. And he's a freaking he's just 140 00:07:14,093 --> 00:07:16,493 Speaker 7: going to keep them. But he's only twenty years old, 141 00:07:16,533 --> 00:07:18,853 Speaker 7: which is crazy. But they're so excarting to see how 142 00:07:18,853 --> 00:07:21,053 Speaker 7: goody or he is and just imagining how good he 143 00:07:21,093 --> 00:07:21,373 Speaker 7: can be. 144 00:07:23,053 --> 00:07:24,973 Speaker 8: And as you say, it was a match where where 145 00:07:25,813 --> 00:07:29,493 Speaker 8: the Warriors sort of had their ups and downs. At 146 00:07:29,533 --> 00:07:33,013 Speaker 8: times looked really dominant, other times the Tigers come back 147 00:07:33,053 --> 00:07:33,693 Speaker 8: into the match. 148 00:07:34,493 --> 00:07:36,813 Speaker 5: How tricky were those conditions though? 149 00:07:37,613 --> 00:07:41,653 Speaker 7: Yeah, they were like the rain, we're both playing in it, 150 00:07:41,693 --> 00:07:44,653 Speaker 7: so we both like in the range, so we're both 151 00:07:44,693 --> 00:07:46,933 Speaker 7: ten just suffered for the same sort of conditions. But yeah, 152 00:07:47,173 --> 00:07:50,173 Speaker 7: like one team was on top of the final ten 153 00:07:50,213 --> 00:07:52,293 Speaker 7: and then the other momentum swing and then the other 154 00:07:52,333 --> 00:07:53,533 Speaker 7: team would get it. And it was sort of a 155 00:07:53,573 --> 00:07:57,173 Speaker 7: flowing game like that. So probably the whole eighty minutes, Yeah, 156 00:07:57,173 --> 00:07:59,053 Speaker 7: it was really The crowd was really cool. They were 157 00:07:59,053 --> 00:08:01,333 Speaker 7: into it and they're riding them home and so it's 158 00:08:01,373 --> 00:08:03,053 Speaker 7: so of awesome to get a wing like this away 159 00:08:03,053 --> 00:08:03,733 Speaker 7: from home. 160 00:08:04,733 --> 00:08:06,733 Speaker 5: And what does this do for your confidence? 161 00:08:07,013 --> 00:08:09,413 Speaker 8: Especially the way you finished the game with a with 162 00:08:09,493 --> 00:08:11,533 Speaker 8: a clutch conversion because he made it a bit more 163 00:08:11,573 --> 00:08:13,773 Speaker 8: difficult than it could have been, as you say, and 164 00:08:13,813 --> 00:08:16,453 Speaker 8: then and then the and then the penalty. 165 00:08:17,493 --> 00:08:19,693 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's cool. It's something I've always wanted to do, 166 00:08:19,773 --> 00:08:22,493 Speaker 7: and they always think about you want to those moments. 167 00:08:22,613 --> 00:08:24,053 Speaker 7: I feel like I want the ball in my hands. 168 00:08:24,053 --> 00:08:26,973 Speaker 7: So yeah, for the more I get in those moments, 169 00:08:26,973 --> 00:08:29,413 Speaker 7: the more confident I'll get them. And yeah, I just 170 00:08:29,413 --> 00:08:31,453 Speaker 7: want to keep grabbing them with both hands. 171 00:08:32,133 --> 00:08:33,013 Speaker 5: And it's early days. 172 00:08:33,053 --> 00:08:35,973 Speaker 8: I mean it's only your fourth game at number seven 173 00:08:36,013 --> 00:08:38,813 Speaker 8: for this team. But but how are you feeling about things? 174 00:08:40,293 --> 00:08:40,493 Speaker 5: Yeah? 175 00:08:40,573 --> 00:08:44,213 Speaker 7: I feel good for every game, learn like learning, and 176 00:08:44,973 --> 00:08:47,373 Speaker 7: there's always something that we get from the game or 177 00:08:47,413 --> 00:08:49,613 Speaker 7: something that we can that we can get better at, 178 00:08:49,653 --> 00:08:51,653 Speaker 7: and all things that we're doing well. So yeah, it's 179 00:08:51,653 --> 00:08:54,653 Speaker 7: cool to sort of have those three wins and still 180 00:08:54,693 --> 00:08:56,293 Speaker 7: not playing our best for you, but we're still getting 181 00:08:56,293 --> 00:08:57,893 Speaker 7: the job done and we go into the buy now 182 00:08:58,213 --> 00:09:00,133 Speaker 7: we need that time to sort of fix a few 183 00:09:00,133 --> 00:09:02,493 Speaker 7: things up and got a real big game come U 184 00:09:02,493 --> 00:09:03,813 Speaker 7: against Broncos next week. 185 00:09:04,893 --> 00:09:08,333 Speaker 5: What was Andrew Wester's message to you guys that have to. 186 00:09:10,333 --> 00:09:12,333 Speaker 7: Sort of similar to what we spoke about before the game, 187 00:09:12,453 --> 00:09:15,653 Speaker 7: just just stay in the in the in the ground 188 00:09:15,813 --> 00:09:17,413 Speaker 7: was twelve, I think it was twelve at half time, 189 00:09:17,533 --> 00:09:21,253 Speaker 7: so it was very similar to the messages before the 190 00:09:21,253 --> 00:09:23,333 Speaker 7: game is reiterated, just we just got to stay in it. 191 00:09:23,413 --> 00:09:26,413 Speaker 7: We don't have to do anything too too crazy, just 192 00:09:26,493 --> 00:09:28,373 Speaker 7: kicking at the corners and back out of fence and 193 00:09:28,373 --> 00:09:30,773 Speaker 7: then when we get the boards down and there and 194 00:09:30,853 --> 00:09:33,493 Speaker 7: just try and score score some trials. And yeah, it 195 00:09:33,533 --> 00:09:36,413 Speaker 7: was it was. Yeah, it was obviously tough. We probably 196 00:09:36,413 --> 00:09:38,093 Speaker 7: didn't go out and do what we wanted to. I've 197 00:09:38,333 --> 00:09:40,133 Speaker 7: scored a try only on but so we sort of 198 00:09:40,173 --> 00:09:42,973 Speaker 7: fell after that. But in the last ten minutes we 199 00:09:42,973 --> 00:09:45,093 Speaker 7: we went mattered. We got to it. 200 00:09:46,213 --> 00:09:47,093 Speaker 5: And what did he say? 201 00:09:47,173 --> 00:09:49,773 Speaker 8: What was the general message after the after the match 202 00:09:49,813 --> 00:09:52,253 Speaker 8: to you guys, Yeah, it. 203 00:09:52,213 --> 00:09:54,533 Speaker 7: Was just that obviously it was just awesome to win. 204 00:09:54,733 --> 00:09:56,093 Speaker 7: But yea, there's a lot of stuff we can prove on, 205 00:09:56,133 --> 00:09:59,213 Speaker 7: but you're gotta just be happy that we stuck in 206 00:09:59,253 --> 00:10:02,013 Speaker 7: it and just stay present and the way to win 207 00:10:02,093 --> 00:10:04,653 Speaker 7: at the end, like I want to. They're a good 208 00:10:04,653 --> 00:10:07,813 Speaker 7: team and they weren't going to beat himself, so able 209 00:10:07,973 --> 00:10:09,653 Speaker 7: it was good to just just said it's good to 210 00:10:09,693 --> 00:10:10,373 Speaker 7: get away with the win. 211 00:10:11,693 --> 00:10:13,413 Speaker 8: And how are you feeling things are going with the 212 00:10:13,813 --> 00:10:15,853 Speaker 8: with the spine now that you have played a few 213 00:10:16,373 --> 00:10:18,413 Speaker 8: a few matches together, I mean a really nice try 214 00:10:18,453 --> 00:10:22,133 Speaker 8: that weighed helped create. How are you feeling about how 215 00:10:22,173 --> 00:10:22,893 Speaker 8: the spines going. 216 00:10:23,333 --> 00:10:26,573 Speaker 7: Yeah, that really easy for the playman. You've got someone 217 00:10:26,613 --> 00:10:28,173 Speaker 7: that way to dumb me after you just creates so 218 00:10:28,253 --> 00:10:32,093 Speaker 7: much space for everyone around him. And there's just a 219 00:10:32,093 --> 00:10:34,453 Speaker 7: really easy to sorder to just get the ball when 220 00:10:34,453 --> 00:10:36,733 Speaker 7: he creates that creates that for you. So it's been 221 00:10:36,773 --> 00:10:38,973 Speaker 7: awesome to be playing with two mentioned no, and I 222 00:10:39,213 --> 00:10:42,293 Speaker 7: can't wait to keep getting going our combination and getting 223 00:10:42,293 --> 00:10:42,973 Speaker 7: more games together. 224 00:10:43,693 --> 00:10:44,973 Speaker 5: What's his secret mate? 225 00:10:45,013 --> 00:10:47,333 Speaker 8: Because how does he keep doing these eighty minute games 226 00:10:47,493 --> 00:10:48,773 Speaker 8: at hooker? 227 00:10:50,093 --> 00:10:52,213 Speaker 7: I don't know, but I'd love to have something. Whatever 228 00:10:52,213 --> 00:10:55,613 Speaker 7: he is taken, I'd probably golf plays at the golf 229 00:10:55,693 --> 00:10:57,813 Speaker 7: that might be that might be freeing him, freeing him 230 00:10:57,853 --> 00:10:59,853 Speaker 7: up a little bit and getting his body nice and loose. 231 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:03,733 Speaker 8: So, and you're talking to golf, I know you've probably 232 00:11:03,773 --> 00:11:05,613 Speaker 8: got really busy times at home at the moment, but 233 00:11:05,653 --> 00:11:07,253 Speaker 8: what are your plans for the buy? 234 00:11:07,373 --> 00:11:09,573 Speaker 5: I assume you get you get a few days off. 235 00:11:10,973 --> 00:11:13,053 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we got a few days off. My partner's 236 00:11:13,093 --> 00:11:15,853 Speaker 7: third gay weeks pregnant shoes, So I'm planning on having 237 00:11:15,853 --> 00:11:17,653 Speaker 7: a baby, probably in the next week or so. So 238 00:11:18,453 --> 00:11:20,973 Speaker 7: they had nothing too crazy for me, just staying at 239 00:11:20,973 --> 00:11:22,613 Speaker 7: home and just yeah, it's relaxing. 240 00:11:22,813 --> 00:11:25,613 Speaker 8: Oh gee, I didn't know it was that close. Yeah, 241 00:11:25,853 --> 00:11:29,293 Speaker 8: so well, the Jude data is sort of just around 242 00:11:29,293 --> 00:11:29,693 Speaker 8: the corner. 243 00:11:30,533 --> 00:11:35,853 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so probably in another week or so. The 244 00:11:35,973 --> 00:11:39,013 Speaker 7: Jue date is less than less than two weeks, so yeah, 245 00:11:39,053 --> 00:11:40,973 Speaker 7: but we might be having a little bit early, but 246 00:11:41,253 --> 00:11:44,853 Speaker 7: just hopefully by regain to work a real person. 247 00:11:45,213 --> 00:11:51,973 Speaker 2: The Big League Podcast podcast. This is the Big League Podcast. 248 00:11:53,613 --> 00:11:55,693 Speaker 3: Right, let's go through this game in a little bit 249 00:11:55,733 --> 00:11:59,053 Speaker 3: more detail. Back and forth Tit for ten. I was 250 00:11:59,133 --> 00:12:01,373 Speaker 3: not hopeful when the Tigers were on the verge of 251 00:12:01,413 --> 00:12:05,053 Speaker 3: scoring to go up twelve with fifteen ish to play. 252 00:12:05,053 --> 00:12:08,253 Speaker 3: Coach Andrew Webster his sides performance was. 253 00:12:08,813 --> 00:12:11,213 Speaker 9: There's moments there where I thought we were about to 254 00:12:11,253 --> 00:12:12,933 Speaker 9: get on top here, and then there's moments there I 255 00:12:12,973 --> 00:12:14,853 Speaker 9: thought we're in lots of trouble. But I was just 256 00:12:14,853 --> 00:12:17,133 Speaker 9: super proud that we found a way and we are fine. 257 00:12:17,133 --> 00:12:18,213 Speaker 5: In a way at the moment. 258 00:12:17,973 --> 00:12:19,973 Speaker 3: They did ride their luck. Alex Pow. Let's take a 259 00:12:20,013 --> 00:12:21,533 Speaker 3: look at the first half as well. For me, it 260 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:24,533 Speaker 3: felt like the Warriors definitely had the ascendency. I thought 261 00:12:24,653 --> 00:12:26,693 Speaker 3: the Tigers were doing well to go into the break 262 00:12:26,933 --> 00:12:30,093 Speaker 3: at twelve or they started with a massive defensive statement 263 00:12:30,093 --> 00:12:32,093 Speaker 3: pushing the Tigers back into their own end goal in 264 00:12:32,133 --> 00:12:35,693 Speaker 3: the opening minute. For me, with ball in hand, they 265 00:12:35,773 --> 00:12:37,773 Speaker 3: just look powerful through the middle. You think about the 266 00:12:37,853 --> 00:12:40,013 Speaker 3: running lines of the likes of Val Mang and the 267 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:43,413 Speaker 3: a quarter are four. Adam Pompey having a blinder, scoring 268 00:12:43,413 --> 00:12:45,813 Speaker 3: a try and making four tackle breaks in the game. 269 00:12:45,973 --> 00:12:47,893 Speaker 4: Good for Bed and Pompey al right, because he knows 270 00:12:47,893 --> 00:12:50,133 Speaker 4: now Rockerberry's back, he's breaking down his neck. He wants 271 00:12:50,133 --> 00:12:52,213 Speaker 4: to keep that first grade spot, all right, So it 272 00:12:52,333 --> 00:12:55,693 Speaker 4: props to Adam first to Adam, sorry first up, but 273 00:12:55,733 --> 00:12:57,933 Speaker 4: you're right. I think you remember back to twenty twenty three, 274 00:12:58,013 --> 00:12:59,973 Speaker 4: the first couple of wins they had when they were 275 00:12:59,973 --> 00:13:02,133 Speaker 4: really starting to find their style under Andrew Webster, and 276 00:13:02,173 --> 00:13:03,893 Speaker 4: it does remind me of that where they were playing 277 00:13:03,933 --> 00:13:05,533 Speaker 4: in good areas, in the right areas of the field, 278 00:13:05,693 --> 00:13:07,893 Speaker 4: but just weren't scoring points. But then we know that 279 00:13:08,053 --> 00:13:10,453 Speaker 4: when they do get it all together, they can just 280 00:13:10,453 --> 00:13:13,133 Speaker 4: blow teams off park and we've already seen that against Manly, right, 281 00:13:13,213 --> 00:13:15,653 Speaker 4: so it's coming. But like just to touch on the Tigers, 282 00:13:15,693 --> 00:13:18,973 Speaker 4: like they remind me of the Tigers when Benji was playing. 283 00:13:19,573 --> 00:13:22,533 Speaker 4: Now that he's the coach, you know, they chuck it round. 284 00:13:22,613 --> 00:13:25,653 Speaker 4: They play a really good, interesting style of football. They're 285 00:13:25,653 --> 00:13:27,493 Speaker 4: a really good defensive side as well. And you think 286 00:13:27,533 --> 00:13:29,693 Speaker 4: the team that has finished so low down these last 287 00:13:29,693 --> 00:13:32,773 Speaker 4: few years, like they genuinely could contend to the eight 288 00:13:32,813 --> 00:13:33,373 Speaker 4: this year. 289 00:13:33,733 --> 00:13:35,893 Speaker 3: And you wonder how much of that is down to 290 00:13:36,253 --> 00:13:38,253 Speaker 3: Jerome Leua and I guess the effect he would have 291 00:13:38,293 --> 00:13:40,453 Speaker 3: on the teammates around because it gives you confidence, right, 292 00:13:40,453 --> 00:13:43,453 Speaker 3: having a guy like that four Premiership titles coming into 293 00:13:43,453 --> 00:13:47,013 Speaker 3: the side, that's going to lift everyone else. But the 294 00:13:47,053 --> 00:13:50,093 Speaker 3: Tigers were hamstring during this game and they had to 295 00:13:50,173 --> 00:13:52,533 Speaker 3: reshuffle their line a lot. They had a number of 296 00:13:52,613 --> 00:13:56,453 Speaker 3: injuries in that first half. They had middle Ford's playing center. 297 00:13:57,253 --> 00:13:59,693 Speaker 3: I remember listening to the comtators trying to work out 298 00:13:59,693 --> 00:14:01,893 Speaker 3: who was actually playing at center for the Tigers because 299 00:14:01,893 --> 00:14:04,493 Speaker 3: they had to reshuffle so many times. And the Warriors 300 00:14:04,493 --> 00:14:07,453 Speaker 3: sort of were able to take advantage of that, and 301 00:14:07,493 --> 00:14:09,813 Speaker 3: the Tigers were just opportunistic. I suppose with that last 302 00:14:09,813 --> 00:14:12,453 Speaker 3: try they scored before the break and they would have 303 00:14:12,453 --> 00:14:13,653 Speaker 3: been pretty happy at halftime. 304 00:14:14,413 --> 00:14:16,213 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree with what you said earlier. 305 00:14:16,253 --> 00:14:19,053 Speaker 4: The Warriors definitely didn't do enough in that first half 306 00:14:19,093 --> 00:14:21,853 Speaker 4: to cement the advantage that they actually had. But like 307 00:14:21,853 --> 00:14:23,693 Speaker 4: I said before, and you can always put this back 308 00:14:23,733 --> 00:14:26,373 Speaker 4: on the Tigers as well. That's what these good teams do. 309 00:14:26,853 --> 00:14:29,293 Speaker 4: They don't let you get away from them, and that's 310 00:14:29,293 --> 00:14:31,693 Speaker 4: what the Warriors did, I mean, obviously to their credit. 311 00:14:32,173 --> 00:14:35,493 Speaker 3: You mentioned Wade Egan at the start, and he was 312 00:14:35,533 --> 00:14:38,093 Speaker 3: doing a superb job, as I said, opening that space 313 00:14:38,373 --> 00:14:41,573 Speaker 3: around the rookie. He linked with Chanelle Harris de Vita 314 00:14:41,613 --> 00:14:44,253 Speaker 3: and Luke Metcalff, and the lead up to Metcalf's trying, 315 00:14:44,293 --> 00:14:47,533 Speaker 3: that all starts with that space. He's able to the 316 00:14:47,573 --> 00:14:52,533 Speaker 3: sort of coaxing the defenders. You know, the defense for 317 00:14:52,653 --> 00:14:56,013 Speaker 3: me sometimes a little bit loose around the middle, a 318 00:14:56,053 --> 00:14:59,333 Speaker 3: little bit around the bunti af court lacking and the 319 00:14:59,413 --> 00:15:03,453 Speaker 3: lead up to Faynu's try leaving a huge hole within 320 00:15:03,493 --> 00:15:06,893 Speaker 3: the ten and fai Nu just absolutely sailed through and 321 00:15:06,933 --> 00:15:10,333 Speaker 3: if you look at that second, the Tigers were in 322 00:15:10,453 --> 00:15:12,253 Speaker 3: charge for most of it, and you know, they went 323 00:15:12,333 --> 00:15:15,613 Speaker 3: up and they were they were pressing on the Warrior's 324 00:15:15,693 --> 00:15:18,013 Speaker 3: line for large parts and the Warriors got really lucky 325 00:15:18,413 --> 00:15:21,653 Speaker 3: with toral May dropping the ball over the line. There 326 00:15:21,693 --> 00:15:23,973 Speaker 3: was also another one where there was an obstruction and 327 00:15:24,053 --> 00:15:26,493 Speaker 3: looked like one of the Tigers players had just sailed through. 328 00:15:27,693 --> 00:15:29,613 Speaker 3: What did you think of I guess the second half 329 00:15:29,653 --> 00:15:32,293 Speaker 3: as a whole, but just the Warrior's ability to hold 330 00:15:32,333 --> 00:15:33,813 Speaker 3: on that grip that we talked about. 331 00:15:34,093 --> 00:15:36,653 Speaker 4: It felt like that was really missing last year, didn't it. 332 00:15:36,693 --> 00:15:38,613 Speaker 4: Like you look at the number of games they'd lose 333 00:15:38,693 --> 00:15:40,733 Speaker 4: by less than a converted try, you know, I think 334 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:43,013 Speaker 4: it was about seven, you know. So to be in 335 00:15:43,093 --> 00:15:45,933 Speaker 4: these tight contests and to actually come away winning them, 336 00:15:45,973 --> 00:15:47,333 Speaker 4: because like I said, they lost seven, I think they 337 00:15:47,333 --> 00:15:49,613 Speaker 4: only won three by less than a committed trial less 338 00:15:49,693 --> 00:15:53,133 Speaker 4: rather so to have that experience, bank that experience as 339 00:15:53,173 --> 00:15:55,133 Speaker 4: they go further into this season, I think it's going 340 00:15:55,213 --> 00:15:56,773 Speaker 4: to be invaluable come the right time. 341 00:15:57,533 --> 00:16:01,653 Speaker 3: Let's talk about Lekahalaesima and his try that run down 342 00:16:02,173 --> 00:16:07,453 Speaker 3: the right edge evaded three defenders to the crowd, in 343 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:10,293 Speaker 3: the lead up, which I mean, I don't mind, but 344 00:16:11,373 --> 00:16:12,853 Speaker 3: he was getting he was coughing up with a flat 345 00:16:13,253 --> 00:16:17,973 Speaker 3: from the commentator or the sky coverage afterwards, And obviously 346 00:16:18,653 --> 00:16:21,893 Speaker 3: Metcalf said in his interview with Birds There that he 347 00:16:21,933 --> 00:16:25,453 Speaker 3: woulted Hallo Sema to run the ball and under the post. 348 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:28,733 Speaker 3: I was laughing because as they showed a replay of 349 00:16:28,773 --> 00:16:31,333 Speaker 3: the coach's box when Halosima was running in to score 350 00:16:31,333 --> 00:16:34,253 Speaker 3: that try, Webster was cheering on. You can see Stacy 351 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:37,773 Speaker 3: Jones go under the post, under the post and he 352 00:16:37,933 --> 00:16:39,693 Speaker 3: threw the pen on the ground when he scored the 353 00:16:39,733 --> 00:16:43,053 Speaker 3: try away out to the right. So I mean that's 354 00:16:43,093 --> 00:16:45,293 Speaker 3: an experience right there. He's nineteen, he's going to learn, 355 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:49,093 Speaker 3: he's going to get better. But mits Barnett's lauded Halasima 356 00:16:49,173 --> 00:16:49,893 Speaker 3: for his performance. 357 00:16:49,933 --> 00:16:51,813 Speaker 5: He's a special kiddo. He's going to have a long 358 00:16:51,853 --> 00:16:52,493 Speaker 5: career if he wants to. 359 00:16:52,653 --> 00:16:54,413 Speaker 9: Like some of the things he can do on the 360 00:16:54,533 --> 00:16:55,773 Speaker 9: footy field, I wish I could do. 361 00:16:55,933 --> 00:16:59,373 Speaker 3: But he's a humble kid and just happy he had 362 00:16:59,373 --> 00:17:03,173 Speaker 3: that moment. And Webster agrees with Barnett, but has one condition. 363 00:17:03,413 --> 00:17:05,893 Speaker 3: As Halosima, as we said, race his finger to his 364 00:17:05,933 --> 00:17:08,813 Speaker 3: lips fifteen meters from the line. 365 00:17:08,853 --> 00:17:11,053 Speaker 9: I wish he went around and scored on the sticks, 366 00:17:11,093 --> 00:17:13,613 Speaker 9: and you said he was grounded. He was a bit 367 00:17:13,693 --> 00:17:16,853 Speaker 9: larry there, but the young guys like that learn. 368 00:17:16,893 --> 00:17:18,933 Speaker 3: You know, what were you thinking when he was charging. 369 00:17:18,653 --> 00:17:21,173 Speaker 4: To the line, So to be honest, I was watching 370 00:17:21,213 --> 00:17:24,773 Speaker 4: the game on a slight delay from my neighbor. 371 00:17:24,693 --> 00:17:25,653 Speaker 3: Who is a big Words fan. 372 00:17:25,893 --> 00:17:28,893 Speaker 4: Anytime something happened, I got a little bit of an indication. 373 00:17:28,973 --> 00:17:31,053 Speaker 4: I just heard him start going off and the Warriors 374 00:17:31,053 --> 00:17:32,573 Speaker 4: were so deep in their own half at that point, 375 00:17:32,773 --> 00:17:35,293 Speaker 4: and Leker just breaks down the wing and you're just thinking, gay, 376 00:17:35,293 --> 00:17:36,893 Speaker 4: He's like you remember that game he played. I think it 377 00:17:36,933 --> 00:17:38,773 Speaker 4: was his debut, wasn't it where normally he had that 378 00:17:38,853 --> 00:17:41,733 Speaker 4: huge run playing at center and nearly got it over 379 00:17:41,733 --> 00:17:43,173 Speaker 4: the line. So it was great see him actually get 380 00:17:43,213 --> 00:17:45,253 Speaker 4: over for his first try. But I agree with everything 381 00:17:45,293 --> 00:17:47,293 Speaker 4: Barnett and Whibs have said that I absolutely love le Aho. 382 00:17:47,453 --> 00:17:51,173 Speaker 4: Seem like we heard when Adam Vanila Blake signed to 383 00:17:51,173 --> 00:17:53,293 Speaker 4: go to the Sharks, he said no, no. The young 384 00:17:53,373 --> 00:17:55,533 Speaker 4: Ford's coming through at the moment, not just Leger but 385 00:17:56,293 --> 00:18:00,013 Speaker 4: Dimitry Wager, Jacob laban Zimo who was part of that 386 00:18:00,013 --> 00:18:01,133 Speaker 4: Ben and he's gone to the board. I was like, 387 00:18:01,213 --> 00:18:04,493 Speaker 4: the development of this next generation of Warriors forwards, it 388 00:18:04,653 --> 00:18:07,573 Speaker 4: just looks so promising. I really hope that they can 389 00:18:07,613 --> 00:18:10,053 Speaker 4: all stay together have great careers at the Warriors. 390 00:18:10,253 --> 00:18:13,053 Speaker 3: And you forget Ali Lattala is sort of part of 391 00:18:13,053 --> 00:18:15,773 Speaker 3: that group as well, and he's now just the regular 392 00:18:15,973 --> 00:18:19,413 Speaker 3: Warriors starting center. Obviously, unfortunate for Rocker Berry, we thought 393 00:18:19,413 --> 00:18:21,333 Speaker 3: he was going to come back. Pompey shifted to the wing, 394 00:18:21,493 --> 00:18:24,933 Speaker 3: moved back to Sendecausebury. What he did is hamstring during 395 00:18:24,933 --> 00:18:28,893 Speaker 3: the week. Then obviously Ed Corsey comes onto the wing. 396 00:18:29,293 --> 00:18:33,773 Speaker 3: But Lataha has been outstanding and obviously, you know young players, 397 00:18:34,173 --> 00:18:36,613 Speaker 3: there are defensive areas from time to time, and that's 398 00:18:36,613 --> 00:18:39,093 Speaker 3: obviously going to happen. But the amount of power that 399 00:18:39,093 --> 00:18:42,133 Speaker 3: they're coming through, with the amount of talent, raw talent, 400 00:18:42,733 --> 00:18:43,893 Speaker 3: I think it says a lot. We're going to talk 401 00:18:43,893 --> 00:18:47,213 Speaker 3: about Dylan Walker leaving in a few moments, but that 402 00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:49,973 Speaker 3: Cameron George said after that that we're not going to 403 00:18:49,973 --> 00:18:52,653 Speaker 3: look outside for another lot. We're going to look within 404 00:18:52,733 --> 00:18:54,973 Speaker 3: the club. We're a development club and that just shows 405 00:18:54,973 --> 00:18:57,133 Speaker 3: the confidence they have and the young players that are 406 00:18:57,133 --> 00:18:59,253 Speaker 3: coming through and we're starting to see shades of that. 407 00:18:59,333 --> 00:19:02,213 Speaker 3: I mean, look, Ajlasima is nineteen. Can you imagine how 408 00:19:02,213 --> 00:19:04,893 Speaker 3: good he's going to be in seven eight years. He's 409 00:19:04,933 --> 00:19:07,853 Speaker 3: only going to be twenty six, twenty seven, Like he's 410 00:19:07,893 --> 00:19:10,053 Speaker 3: still even hit his peak. Yeah. 411 00:19:10,293 --> 00:19:12,413 Speaker 4: No, I agree with everything you've said that. It's like 412 00:19:12,813 --> 00:19:15,813 Speaker 4: the Warriors at all levels bar n RL do have 413 00:19:15,973 --> 00:19:18,613 Speaker 4: very good success. They've won the Harold Matthews they you know, 414 00:19:18,613 --> 00:19:21,053 Speaker 4: they're generally there are thereabouts of the New Southwa's Cup and 415 00:19:21,253 --> 00:19:23,573 Speaker 4: just making sure these guys have a pathway to come through. 416 00:19:23,653 --> 00:19:26,013 Speaker 4: I know that, like the issue of NROL recruitment is 417 00:19:26,053 --> 00:19:27,813 Speaker 4: you need guys who are ready to go now. You 418 00:19:27,853 --> 00:19:30,293 Speaker 4: can't really invest in a young half for a young 419 00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:33,373 Speaker 4: forward like that. But because of the stocks that the 420 00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:35,373 Speaker 4: Warriors do have at the moment and the leadership of 421 00:19:35,493 --> 00:19:37,453 Speaker 4: you know, guys like Adam fil Blake and Delawalker and 422 00:19:37,533 --> 00:19:40,093 Speaker 4: justifying the last year to be mentors and now Mitch 423 00:19:40,133 --> 00:19:42,813 Speaker 4: Barnett and James Fisher Harris and Kirk Capbole, like there 424 00:19:42,853 --> 00:19:45,453 Speaker 4: are such a good pathway for these young guys to 425 00:19:45,453 --> 00:19:47,493 Speaker 4: come into first grade now and I just hope it 426 00:19:47,573 --> 00:19:48,133 Speaker 4: keeps happening. 427 00:19:49,213 --> 00:19:53,613 Speaker 3: Now, let's discuss Luke Metcalf and we his composure off 428 00:19:53,653 --> 00:19:55,453 Speaker 3: the tee in this game. I do want to talk 429 00:19:55,453 --> 00:19:58,053 Speaker 3: about a bit of the kicking in game, but in 430 00:19:58,213 --> 00:20:01,013 Speaker 3: terms of off the tea, he held his own and 431 00:20:01,053 --> 00:20:03,293 Speaker 3: obviously he talked about he would have liked that closer 432 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:05,733 Speaker 3: to the posts after the Hall of Sema try. But 433 00:20:05,813 --> 00:20:09,733 Speaker 3: he stepped up in difficult conditions, nailed it on the angle, 434 00:20:09,773 --> 00:20:12,333 Speaker 3: and then as soon as that penalty came with just 435 00:20:12,373 --> 00:20:14,893 Speaker 3: a few minutes to go, he immediately was like, ye, 436 00:20:15,013 --> 00:20:17,733 Speaker 3: give me the kick, forty meters out in front into 437 00:20:17,813 --> 00:20:20,973 Speaker 3: the wind. He immediately he had his hands up two points, 438 00:20:21,013 --> 00:20:22,773 Speaker 3: two points were taking the two. I'll take the kick. 439 00:20:23,213 --> 00:20:28,213 Speaker 3: I love that attitude and that sort of put me 440 00:20:28,253 --> 00:20:30,493 Speaker 3: in the box seat, put me in the driver's seat 441 00:20:30,573 --> 00:20:34,293 Speaker 3: and put the pressure on me. He relishes that we've 442 00:20:34,293 --> 00:20:37,253 Speaker 3: still admits that he had his doubts with those last kicks. 443 00:20:37,333 --> 00:20:39,253 Speaker 9: The wind looked really strong in the second half ONLM. 444 00:20:39,293 --> 00:20:41,693 Speaker 9: We're kicking the ball and it was forty out and 445 00:20:41,293 --> 00:20:43,613 Speaker 9: I was like, if he wants it, let's take it, 446 00:20:43,653 --> 00:20:45,653 Speaker 9: and he wanted it, like straight away he wanted it, 447 00:20:45,693 --> 00:20:47,773 Speaker 9: so as I awsome and then I was nervous with 448 00:20:47,853 --> 00:20:49,333 Speaker 9: the distance, but he smashed it. 449 00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:51,213 Speaker 5: I just loved how he stood up in wanted that moment. 450 00:20:52,173 --> 00:20:54,573 Speaker 4: Luke Metcalf needed that, didn't he. Like we've spoken all 451 00:20:54,613 --> 00:20:56,293 Speaker 4: season about as he reads to be the main man, 452 00:20:56,333 --> 00:20:58,093 Speaker 4: and I think now he's done the show. Not only 453 00:20:58,133 --> 00:21:00,373 Speaker 4: can he be the main man he wants to. I 454 00:21:00,373 --> 00:21:03,733 Speaker 4: think that's so pivotal for a halfback to actually take 455 00:21:03,773 --> 00:21:06,733 Speaker 4: that burden on yourself, you know, and he's wet spot 456 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:09,173 Speaker 4: around it. I think that half sparing was like they're 457 00:21:09,173 --> 00:21:12,133 Speaker 4: about the same age, they've got similar levels of experience 458 00:21:12,133 --> 00:21:14,213 Speaker 4: and how long they've actually been playing. Metcalfs lost a 459 00:21:14,213 --> 00:21:16,893 Speaker 4: lot of games because he's just been injured. But those 460 00:21:16,893 --> 00:21:18,733 Speaker 4: two are going to go together, you know, and they're 461 00:21:18,733 --> 00:21:20,813 Speaker 4: gonna wait. Like we saw Chanelle win a game last 462 00:21:20,853 --> 00:21:22,813 Speaker 4: week off his own pat and now Metcalf's done it 463 00:21:22,853 --> 00:21:25,773 Speaker 4: this week. And so for those two to be doing 464 00:21:25,813 --> 00:21:27,973 Speaker 4: this now, I think is such good signs. 465 00:21:28,253 --> 00:21:31,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's props also to Webster to keep giving 466 00:21:31,733 --> 00:21:34,533 Speaker 3: him them that opportunity. Not swapping out for Tomartin Martin. 467 00:21:34,573 --> 00:21:36,293 Speaker 3: I was calling for Tomight and Martin to come and 468 00:21:36,293 --> 00:21:38,213 Speaker 3: not Christian now had played badly just because I thought 469 00:21:38,213 --> 00:21:41,213 Speaker 3: we needed more leadership in the halves. But those two 470 00:21:41,693 --> 00:21:43,253 Speaker 3: are playing, are going strength to strength. 471 00:21:43,573 --> 00:21:44,973 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've got Tanner Boyd in there as well. 472 00:21:45,013 --> 00:21:47,213 Speaker 4: Remember Tanner Boyd is probably the most experienced half they've 473 00:21:47,213 --> 00:21:48,493 Speaker 4: got on the box, isn't he. 474 00:21:48,533 --> 00:21:48,613 Speaker 9: No. 475 00:21:48,653 --> 00:21:50,533 Speaker 4: I think Tomarty Martin might just edge it. But they've 476 00:21:50,533 --> 00:21:53,493 Speaker 4: signed Tanner Boyd for a reason, you know. And now 477 00:21:53,533 --> 00:21:55,453 Speaker 4: he's just sort of sitting in reserve grade waiting for 478 00:21:55,493 --> 00:21:57,653 Speaker 4: a chance if and when it's given to him. And 479 00:21:57,773 --> 00:21:59,893 Speaker 4: I think the Warriors will want to say no, just 480 00:22:00,013 --> 00:22:02,133 Speaker 4: you stay there and they still be our guys. 481 00:22:02,253 --> 00:22:05,253 Speaker 3: Now, speaking of the halves, I do still have a 482 00:22:05,333 --> 00:22:08,853 Speaker 3: few thoughts around the Warrior's fifth tackle plays. And obviously 483 00:22:08,853 --> 00:22:12,213 Speaker 3: in Vegas that was the issue that there weren't didn't 484 00:22:12,213 --> 00:22:13,813 Speaker 3: seem to be any fifth tackle players. They said they 485 00:22:13,813 --> 00:22:15,613 Speaker 3: went away from the game. Pan that's sort of come 486 00:22:15,733 --> 00:22:17,933 Speaker 3: right in the last few weeks. But I was talking 487 00:22:17,933 --> 00:22:20,733 Speaker 3: to a Country Sport breakfast producer, Mark Kelly out in 488 00:22:20,733 --> 00:22:23,893 Speaker 3: the newsroom earlier and he pointed out that a lot 489 00:22:23,933 --> 00:22:27,093 Speaker 3: of the time the Warriors attacking inside the opposition twenty 490 00:22:27,093 --> 00:22:29,373 Speaker 3: metcalf is are shoveling the ball on. We're looking for 491 00:22:29,493 --> 00:22:32,293 Speaker 3: running options rather than kicking options. There were a few 492 00:22:32,293 --> 00:22:34,413 Speaker 3: grubbers on a Chanelle was playing his part with the boot. 493 00:22:34,733 --> 00:22:38,253 Speaker 3: I'm struggling to think of an attacking bomb that was 494 00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:41,533 Speaker 3: contestable next to the try line in that game from 495 00:22:41,573 --> 00:22:42,333 Speaker 3: the Warriors. 496 00:22:43,093 --> 00:22:44,733 Speaker 4: Well, I mean you're looking at I mean, especially out 497 00:22:44,773 --> 00:22:46,533 Speaker 4: on the wings ta into a peck. He's not going 498 00:22:46,573 --> 00:22:48,013 Speaker 4: to beat anyone in the air, so you're not really 499 00:22:48,013 --> 00:22:49,973 Speaker 4: going to put an attacking bomb up there. But like 500 00:22:50,013 --> 00:22:51,413 Speaker 4: I mean, we saw it last week, but the Roosts 501 00:22:51,533 --> 00:22:54,853 Speaker 4: gam didn't even Chanelle mostly bombed it to himself, you know. 502 00:22:56,053 --> 00:22:58,413 Speaker 4: But I think it is just a natural instinct for 503 00:22:58,453 --> 00:23:00,533 Speaker 4: Metcalf as the attacking leader to run the ball like 504 00:23:00,573 --> 00:23:02,213 Speaker 4: we saw him, you know, run the ball on the 505 00:23:02,253 --> 00:23:05,133 Speaker 4: last tackle and get found out. Was it once or twice? 506 00:23:05,133 --> 00:23:06,973 Speaker 4: I think it was only once. But it is just 507 00:23:07,013 --> 00:23:10,173 Speaker 4: something that, like Web said, like, they're not the finished article. 508 00:23:10,293 --> 00:23:12,133 Speaker 4: You know, the fact that they are playing like this 509 00:23:12,253 --> 00:23:14,453 Speaker 4: and winning games is great, but they know that there 510 00:23:14,533 --> 00:23:16,573 Speaker 4: is still levels to go to and they know to 511 00:23:16,613 --> 00:23:19,013 Speaker 4: get there. They probably know how to get there because 512 00:23:19,013 --> 00:23:21,613 Speaker 4: they've got enough winners around them with guys like Fisher Harris. 513 00:23:22,373 --> 00:23:24,853 Speaker 4: So it's now up to the leadership at the club 514 00:23:24,893 --> 00:23:27,733 Speaker 4: and the coaches and the playing group to work out 515 00:23:27,733 --> 00:23:28,813 Speaker 4: how they get there together. 516 00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:33,413 Speaker 3: Yeah. One with four rounds in three in one, they 517 00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:35,773 Speaker 3: sit sixth on the ladder and they've got to guarantee 518 00:23:35,773 --> 00:23:37,373 Speaker 3: two points with the buy this week, So they're going 519 00:23:37,453 --> 00:23:39,093 Speaker 3: to go Because teams on top out are playing each other, 520 00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:40,693 Speaker 3: they're going to go higher. They're going to be higher 521 00:23:40,733 --> 00:23:45,373 Speaker 3: than six going into a round six. What do you 522 00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:47,533 Speaker 3: give this team? If you give them a great ABCD, 523 00:23:48,493 --> 00:23:51,733 Speaker 3: where do you think they're at this point from the 524 00:23:51,773 --> 00:23:53,053 Speaker 3: first four weeks of competition. 525 00:23:54,373 --> 00:23:56,933 Speaker 4: I'm probably looking at a B B plus. You know, 526 00:23:57,133 --> 00:23:59,573 Speaker 4: I think the last three weeks have been exceptional, but 527 00:23:59,653 --> 00:24:02,213 Speaker 4: that first week in Vegas cannot be overlooked yet. 528 00:24:02,693 --> 00:24:05,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to go for a B plus. Three 529 00:24:06,053 --> 00:24:10,133 Speaker 3: fantastic wins, showing plenty of heart and as we said, 530 00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:13,773 Speaker 3: composure and the willingness to put themselves in the pressure 531 00:24:13,773 --> 00:24:17,733 Speaker 3: box like Metcalfe did with the Kicks. However, because I'm 532 00:24:17,773 --> 00:24:20,253 Speaker 3: still not convinced around the Warrior's attack, and Chanelle and 533 00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:23,853 Speaker 3: Luc are still growing as a combination, it's almost exciting 534 00:24:24,893 --> 00:24:29,053 Speaker 3: that we know they are still way off their ceiling 535 00:24:29,333 --> 00:24:32,373 Speaker 3: in terms of what they are capable of, and Metcalf 536 00:24:32,373 --> 00:24:35,133 Speaker 3: obviously talked about that in his chat with Burge as well. 537 00:24:35,293 --> 00:24:37,533 Speaker 3: This team has got a long way to go, a 538 00:24:37,573 --> 00:24:39,413 Speaker 3: long way to go. But the fact that they're getting 539 00:24:39,493 --> 00:24:42,333 Speaker 3: these wins over the likes of the Roosters and the Tigers, 540 00:24:42,373 --> 00:24:45,693 Speaker 3: who are actually good this year, gives a hell of 541 00:24:45,733 --> 00:24:46,413 Speaker 3: a lot of promise. 542 00:24:46,453 --> 00:24:47,973 Speaker 4: Well, not only that, but remember the one over Manly. 543 00:24:47,973 --> 00:24:50,053 Speaker 4: Remember after round Whine, everyone's saying, Oh, Manly are going 544 00:24:50,093 --> 00:24:51,373 Speaker 4: to be a top four side. No one's saying that 545 00:24:51,413 --> 00:24:53,293 Speaker 4: anymore because the war is really put into the sword 546 00:24:53,293 --> 00:24:56,293 Speaker 4: at Mount Smart. 547 00:24:55,253 --> 00:24:58,853 Speaker 2: The Big League podcast for the biggest league fans. 548 00:25:00,053 --> 00:25:04,893 Speaker 3: Right, Alex a story that we weren't expecting last week 549 00:25:05,053 --> 00:25:08,093 Speaker 3: and it is a big blow to the club. Dylan 550 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:11,533 Speaker 3: wall Walker, utility forward, one of the one of my 551 00:25:11,613 --> 00:25:15,293 Speaker 3: favorite characters of the Warriors over the last few years. 552 00:25:15,413 --> 00:25:19,853 Speaker 3: He's leaving. He's gone to paramatter, returning to Australia on 553 00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:23,053 Speaker 3: compassionate grounds, is without his family for a number of 554 00:25:23,053 --> 00:25:24,413 Speaker 3: months and you just got to a point where he 555 00:25:24,413 --> 00:25:27,613 Speaker 3: decided he couldn't do it. I actually am really supportive 556 00:25:27,653 --> 00:25:29,453 Speaker 3: of the way the Warriors have handled this in terms 557 00:25:29,453 --> 00:25:31,133 Speaker 3: of Cameron George coming out and saying, look, we treat 558 00:25:31,133 --> 00:25:33,653 Speaker 3: our players. They're not, you know, just employees the humans. 559 00:25:34,253 --> 00:25:36,293 Speaker 3: Walker obviously needs to be with his family. He's making 560 00:25:36,293 --> 00:25:40,173 Speaker 3: this decision based off his kids, and that's completely understandable 561 00:25:40,173 --> 00:25:42,413 Speaker 3: and I don't I don't think there's anything wrong with 562 00:25:42,493 --> 00:25:45,333 Speaker 3: that at all. But in terms of the way the 563 00:25:45,373 --> 00:25:48,333 Speaker 3: Warriors use him as a facilitator and also as a leader, 564 00:25:49,093 --> 00:25:51,293 Speaker 3: this is a this is a tough hold of film. 565 00:25:51,533 --> 00:25:54,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, complete with what you said about Dylan Walker. 566 00:25:54,213 --> 00:25:56,293 Speaker 4: He was a very important character at the club. You know, 567 00:25:56,373 --> 00:25:59,373 Speaker 4: he was great with media. He always answered questions, he 568 00:25:59,453 --> 00:26:01,933 Speaker 4: answered them as himself. He as authentic and to think 569 00:26:01,973 --> 00:26:04,733 Speaker 4: that he's been doing it tough is pretty hard to hear. 570 00:26:05,013 --> 00:26:07,973 Speaker 4: So great to see him actually go back to Australian 571 00:26:08,013 --> 00:26:10,093 Speaker 4: being with his If he'd gone to a better club 572 00:26:10,133 --> 00:26:12,333 Speaker 4: than the Eels, who are bobbins at the moment, then 573 00:26:12,413 --> 00:26:14,653 Speaker 4: I might be annoyed, but you're all right, I'm going 574 00:26:14,653 --> 00:26:16,693 Speaker 4: to them at the bottom of the table. But you're right, 575 00:26:16,693 --> 00:26:19,133 Speaker 4: that is such a big role to for like we 576 00:26:19,133 --> 00:26:20,893 Speaker 4: we tend to think of enter else sides as one 577 00:26:20,893 --> 00:26:23,333 Speaker 4: to thirteen, but they're really not. It's one to seventeen, 578 00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:25,813 Speaker 4: if not one to about thirty. You know, you need 579 00:26:25,933 --> 00:26:27,613 Speaker 4: every member of your squad to be able to do 580 00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:30,013 Speaker 4: a job at a certain point, and Dylan Walker has 581 00:26:30,093 --> 00:26:32,693 Speaker 4: done basically every job. He's played in the Falls, he's 582 00:26:32,693 --> 00:26:34,293 Speaker 4: played in the Senate, as he's played in the Harbs. 583 00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:36,293 Speaker 4: Remember that in his first year playing half back when 584 00:26:36,293 --> 00:26:39,973 Speaker 4: Sewn Johnson was injured. So that's a huge, huge loss 585 00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:40,613 Speaker 4: for the Warriors. 586 00:26:41,613 --> 00:26:43,773 Speaker 3: It's not just a loss, I suppose in terms of 587 00:26:44,413 --> 00:26:46,573 Speaker 3: his role on the field, in terms of what he does 588 00:26:46,613 --> 00:26:48,613 Speaker 3: with ball in hand, but also in leadership. If you 589 00:26:48,613 --> 00:26:52,253 Speaker 3: think about the fact that Shawn Johnson's gone to Harris 590 00:26:52,733 --> 00:26:56,133 Speaker 3: has gone my salem Ontoy, my salem on Toya, like 591 00:26:56,213 --> 00:26:59,493 Speaker 3: Dlan Martinis, Alesniks injured and phenomenal, it's a it's a 592 00:26:59,613 --> 00:27:03,173 Speaker 3: rotating door of people leaving the Warriors or being out 593 00:27:03,213 --> 00:27:06,373 Speaker 3: of action in the case of Dlan. But that leadership 594 00:27:06,413 --> 00:27:10,853 Speaker 3: has to come from somewhere, and Aaron Clark is a 595 00:27:10,973 --> 00:27:14,453 Speaker 3: very experienced player that for me, some of that does 596 00:27:14,493 --> 00:27:16,573 Speaker 3: fall on him. It's difficult because he's in terms of 597 00:27:16,733 --> 00:27:19,853 Speaker 3: ball play. He's very different to Taho and Walker. Both 598 00:27:20,093 --> 00:27:24,773 Speaker 3: Toho and Dylan are more facilitators playmaking styles. Aaron Clark 599 00:27:24,813 --> 00:27:27,613 Speaker 3: runs the ball straight and hard, so he's going to 600 00:27:27,613 --> 00:27:30,493 Speaker 3: pick up the mantle there. But also in a leadership capacity. 601 00:27:31,253 --> 00:27:34,093 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been blown away by Aaron Clark, 602 00:27:34,093 --> 00:27:35,773 Speaker 4: to be honest, Like you remember back to his one 603 00:27:35,813 --> 00:27:37,573 Speaker 4: appearance he got four the Warriors before he left. 604 00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:38,413 Speaker 3: That was as a half back. 605 00:27:38,733 --> 00:27:40,693 Speaker 4: And he goes away and he goes to canber and 606 00:27:40,693 --> 00:27:42,453 Speaker 4: he goes to the Gold Coast and just comes back, 607 00:27:42,733 --> 00:27:44,453 Speaker 4: you know, because he a he wants to he wants 608 00:27:44,493 --> 00:27:46,133 Speaker 4: to be in Auckland, he wants his family to grow 609 00:27:46,173 --> 00:27:49,013 Speaker 4: up here. But he's come back and he has just 610 00:27:49,213 --> 00:27:51,693 Speaker 4: probably for me, been the most important player of this season, 611 00:27:51,693 --> 00:27:54,013 Speaker 4: which is a huge thing to put on someone in 612 00:27:54,053 --> 00:27:56,813 Speaker 4: their first well you say first year, his first year back, 613 00:27:56,853 --> 00:27:58,573 Speaker 4: but you look at like a James Fisher Harris and 614 00:27:58,573 --> 00:28:00,453 Speaker 4: the role he was expected to play and he is 615 00:28:00,493 --> 00:28:02,733 Speaker 4: playing it, you know, as as a forward and as 616 00:28:02,733 --> 00:28:05,853 Speaker 4: a leader. Aaron Clark. For me, if you look at 617 00:28:05,973 --> 00:28:10,573 Speaker 4: what Tah Harris brought to the club, Aaron Clark at 618 00:28:10,613 --> 00:28:13,493 Speaker 4: this point in time as an upgrade, you know, And like, 619 00:28:13,533 --> 00:28:15,133 Speaker 4: that's not saying he's going to have a better career 620 00:28:15,133 --> 00:28:17,533 Speaker 4: than Toy because Toyer Harris, you know, won premierships, he 621 00:28:17,573 --> 00:28:21,373 Speaker 4: played Test football. But at this exact moment of the 622 00:28:21,373 --> 00:28:23,453 Speaker 4: player that Toy Harris was when he retired and the 623 00:28:23,453 --> 00:28:26,093 Speaker 4: player Aaron Clark is now, Aaron Clark is a better 624 00:28:26,133 --> 00:28:28,853 Speaker 4: option for the Warriors. And that feels almost wrong to say, 625 00:28:28,973 --> 00:28:30,533 Speaker 4: but I don't think I'm incorrect. 626 00:28:30,893 --> 00:28:37,613 Speaker 2: The Big League Podcast podcast, this is going the Big 627 00:28:37,693 --> 00:28:41,093 Speaker 2: League Podcast on the Warriors bad wagon since day one. 628 00:28:41,493 --> 00:28:44,093 Speaker 3: All right, we'll go through quick fire predictions for a 629 00:28:44,173 --> 00:28:47,933 Speaker 3: round not involving the Warriors this week. Alex Poucer, Let's 630 00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:50,093 Speaker 3: have a but of fun with it. Let's get started. 631 00:28:50,173 --> 00:28:55,973 Speaker 3: Raiders versus the Sharks and Canberra Raiders. Yeah, interesting two 632 00:28:56,013 --> 00:28:58,813 Speaker 3: sides who looked very very strong at opening rounds and 633 00:28:58,813 --> 00:29:02,173 Speaker 3: they both had losses in Week four of the NRL, 634 00:29:02,253 --> 00:29:05,773 Speaker 3: the Raiders losing to the Cowboys, the Sharks to the Bulldogs, 635 00:29:05,773 --> 00:29:08,653 Speaker 3: who obviously look very good. I'm going to go with 636 00:29:08,693 --> 00:29:13,213 Speaker 3: the Sharks to bounce back here. Panthers versus the Cowboys. 637 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:17,533 Speaker 4: Oh, Panthers law of averages if you say the Panthers. 638 00:29:17,533 --> 00:29:18,493 Speaker 4: You'll be right eventually. 639 00:29:18,733 --> 00:29:22,133 Speaker 3: I mean the Panthers. What is going on? Was anyone 640 00:29:22,173 --> 00:29:24,693 Speaker 3: picking the Bunnies to beat the Panthers twenty eight to eight? 641 00:29:24,973 --> 00:29:26,653 Speaker 4: No, but off the last couple of weeks. That's now 642 00:29:26,653 --> 00:29:27,653 Speaker 4: three in a row the Panthers. 643 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:31,653 Speaker 3: They've dropped three in a row? Is it over? Is 644 00:29:31,693 --> 00:29:36,573 Speaker 3: the dynasty gone? It's gone? With Jerome Lewi to the Tigers. 645 00:29:36,773 --> 00:29:40,893 Speaker 4: Fisher Haris to the Warriors. Oh yeah, Sidney Tarriva to 646 00:29:40,893 --> 00:29:44,133 Speaker 4: the Tigers. No, look, I think I'm gonna go to 647 00:29:44,133 --> 00:29:46,213 Speaker 4: the Cowboys. Just the you look at Nathan Cleary not 648 00:29:46,293 --> 00:29:49,853 Speaker 4: being there, Jerome Lewai not being there, Adam Vanila Blake, 649 00:29:50,573 --> 00:29:53,213 Speaker 4: like James Fisher Harris not being there. I think this 650 00:29:53,293 --> 00:29:54,653 Speaker 4: actually might be too much. 651 00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:58,013 Speaker 3: They've lost now, I can't tip against I just it's 652 00:29:58,493 --> 00:30:01,413 Speaker 3: four years, man, They've got to win. They're at home. 653 00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:05,293 Speaker 3: Panthers to beat the Cowboys. Rabbit O's Roosters, Battle of 654 00:30:05,373 --> 00:30:09,653 Speaker 3: Sydney Bunnies. I'm gonna agree with you there, Eaels Dragons 655 00:30:12,133 --> 00:30:14,013 Speaker 3: don't pick the Eels, Yeah, surely not. 656 00:30:14,293 --> 00:30:16,093 Speaker 4: I mean maybe if Dylan Walker gets a start and 657 00:30:16,093 --> 00:30:18,333 Speaker 4: they play Alright, No, look, I'm gonna go to the 658 00:30:18,373 --> 00:30:18,973 Speaker 4: Earls for Dylan. 659 00:30:19,253 --> 00:30:23,733 Speaker 3: What yeah, your name's Michael Burgess backing the Eels every week. 660 00:30:23,773 --> 00:30:27,733 Speaker 3: Now I'm going to Dragons, Titans, Dolphins, Titans. I can 661 00:30:27,853 --> 00:30:32,813 Speaker 3: agree with that. Titans with a surprise victory over the Roosters. 662 00:30:33,693 --> 00:30:36,373 Speaker 3: The Roosters actually had the ascendency for most of that 663 00:30:36,493 --> 00:30:39,213 Speaker 3: game and then just felter bits in the last quarter, 664 00:30:39,293 --> 00:30:42,173 Speaker 3: conceding four tries. Broncos Tigers. 665 00:30:43,173 --> 00:30:45,813 Speaker 4: Surely the Broncos at home you. 666 00:30:45,973 --> 00:30:47,973 Speaker 3: Might pick for minor premiers this year. I'm just gonna 667 00:30:48,013 --> 00:30:50,693 Speaker 3: keep on saying it and maybe it'll come right the 668 00:30:50,733 --> 00:30:53,973 Speaker 3: house on it. Surely see Eagles versus the Storm stomp. 669 00:30:54,693 --> 00:30:55,413 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna win. 670 00:30:55,413 --> 00:30:58,133 Speaker 3: They will think I agree with you there and around 671 00:30:58,213 --> 00:30:59,773 Speaker 3: out Bulldogs versus the Knights. 672 00:31:00,693 --> 00:31:03,293 Speaker 4: I really like the Doggies. I look what I look 673 00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:05,053 Speaker 4: what they look good last year as well. You look 674 00:31:05,093 --> 00:31:07,253 Speaker 4: at the You look at what the Warriors did in 675 00:31:07,293 --> 00:31:09,653 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three when they got backed into the finals 676 00:31:09,693 --> 00:31:11,613 Speaker 4: and then fellow the next season. The Bulldogs have shown 677 00:31:11,653 --> 00:31:13,533 Speaker 4: no sign of doing that. So huge props to Cameron 678 00:31:13,533 --> 00:31:16,093 Speaker 4: Surrealder four and oh yeah four and. 679 00:31:16,173 --> 00:31:18,373 Speaker 3: Oh the Bulldogs and I'm packing them to go five 680 00:31:18,493 --> 00:31:22,773 Speaker 3: and oh and beat the Knights at home. Please follow 681 00:31:22,853 --> 00:31:25,333 Speaker 3: and rate the podcast That'll do us for this week. 682 00:31:25,373 --> 00:31:27,653 Speaker 3: Thank you Alex Power for your time, your wisdom, insight 683 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:30,573 Speaker 3: coming off the bench for Michael Burgess. My name is 684 00:31:30,653 --> 00:31:33,933 Speaker 3: Nathan Lim. We will be back next Monday, so stay tuned, 685 00:31:34,013 --> 00:31:35,733 Speaker 3: enjoy bye week, have a great week. 686 00:31:36,453 --> 00:31:39,413 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks B listen live on air 687 00:31:39,573 --> 00:31:42,293 Speaker 1: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you 688 00:31:42,373 --> 00:31:44,773 Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on Irradio