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Speaker 1: It's going to be a hard job policing these two.

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Speaker 1: A big day in the US, the first presidential debate

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Speaker 1: since Joe Biden quit the race. So I guess it's

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Speaker 1: Trump's second presidential debate of this election season, his first

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Speaker 1: against Kamala Harris. What is going to happen and does

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Speaker 1: it really matter? Mark Gilbert joins us. He's a former

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Speaker 1: US ambassador and Democrat Party member. He's joining us from

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Speaker 1: Park City, Utah, this morning. Mark, Good morning, thanks for

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Speaker 1: being on the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Ryan, Kiotta tell.

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Speaker 1: Me what's your read? Here? Is what happens today? Going

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Speaker 1: to move the dial make a difference?

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Speaker 2: I believe that it could. First of all, this is,

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Speaker 2: as you just mentioned, the vice president's first presidential debate,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the polling shows that many people

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Speaker 2: across the unit as they really don't know her. So

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Speaker 2: this will be a great opportunity for her to be seen.

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Speaker 2: And the expectation is that debate will exceed more than

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Speaker 2: fifty million people, maybe as many as sixty million people

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Speaker 2: will watch.

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Speaker 1: Harris says Trump is not burdened by telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: Does that matter? I mean, he's been elected previously, we

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Speaker 1: know he's got form in that area. Do people care?

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Speaker 1: Does it matter if he's not trying to tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: Should she try and fact chicken like Hillary Clinton did?

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Speaker 2: I think she will, And I think this is different

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Speaker 2: than twenty sixteen. You know, back in twenty sixteen, he

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Speaker 2: was seen into an outsider. His independence was seen through

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Speaker 2: the kind of comments that he made and actually a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a bullying with Secretary Clinton. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe that that is how people look at it today,

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Speaker 2: because he has said some things, especially that people just

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Speaker 2: look at him and go, oh my god, I can't

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Speaker 2: possibly be true. So I do think will make a difference,

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Speaker 2: But of course it will matter how the Vice president

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Speaker 2: addresses that, whether she fax checks in in real time

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Speaker 2: or basically says, you know, here you go, that's just

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Speaker 2: another lie. Let me tell everyone. What the real truth

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Speaker 2: is is.

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Speaker 1: How vulnerable is she on the border and inflation that

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Speaker 1: incumbency issue that she's got from being attached to Biden.

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Speaker 2: So the border probably would have been her largest negative

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Speaker 2: issue until the President told the Republican Party to take

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Speaker 2: the bill that their party actually negotiated and throw it

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Speaker 2: out because he wanted it as a campaign issue. So

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Speaker 2: I believe that that's something that is actually backfired for him,

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Speaker 2: and the numbers at the border have dramatically closed. As

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Speaker 2: far as how people see which party's fault, it is,

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, a lot of people see

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Speaker 2: it as both parties fault, and that's some thing that

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Speaker 2: I personally agree with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to see how it could be anything,

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Speaker 1: but given the numbers over so many different presidencies, right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us this morning. Really

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time and enjoy the debate. Mark Gilbert, former

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Speaker 1: US Ambassador and Democrat Party member, joining us from Park City, Utah.

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