1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,507 Speaker 1: from Newstalks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:15,267 Speaker 2: EDB White Ferns are up and running at the Cricket 4 00:00:15,267 --> 00:00:18,107 Speaker 2: World Cup. New Zealand have posted two hundred and twenty 5 00:00:18,227 --> 00:00:22,027 Speaker 2: seven for nine before dismissing Bangladesh for one hundred and 6 00:00:22,147 --> 00:00:26,107 Speaker 2: twenty seven to clinch a one hundred run win at Guwahati. 7 00:00:26,467 --> 00:00:29,787 Speaker 2: Sophie Divine hit fifty or more for a third consecutive match. 8 00:00:30,147 --> 00:00:33,747 Speaker 2: She made sixty three. Brook Holliday top scored with sixty 9 00:00:33,827 --> 00:00:39,347 Speaker 2: nine to earn Player of the Match on us. 10 00:00:37,627 --> 00:00:41,067 Speaker 3: So big here, feelers inside the circles, get to a 11 00:00:41,147 --> 00:00:47,187 Speaker 3: fifty and get there in style. He did a better 12 00:00:47,227 --> 00:00:51,227 Speaker 3: resurrection when she joined Sophie Devine out there in the middle. 13 00:00:52,027 --> 00:00:57,907 Speaker 3: She's chosen the game New Zealand and desperate need to 14 00:00:57,947 --> 00:00:59,107 Speaker 3: get fines on the board. 15 00:00:59,667 --> 00:01:02,747 Speaker 2: Brooke Calladay is with us. You're on the board the 16 00:01:02,787 --> 00:01:05,667 Speaker 2: White Ferns with your first win. How much is there 17 00:01:05,707 --> 00:01:08,107 Speaker 2: a bit of relief mixed them with your satisfaction of 18 00:01:08,587 --> 00:01:10,587 Speaker 2: a good winner for Bangladesh tonight. 19 00:01:11,227 --> 00:01:13,347 Speaker 4: Yeah. It's always a good start, isn't it to finally 20 00:01:13,347 --> 00:01:15,947 Speaker 4: be on the board, And obviously those first two games 21 00:01:15,947 --> 00:01:19,107 Speaker 4: were disappointing because I feel like, you know, we had 22 00:01:19,107 --> 00:01:21,707 Speaker 4: a lot of good or positive things that we did 23 00:01:21,747 --> 00:01:23,107 Speaker 4: well and it was just, yeah, we just didn't get 24 00:01:23,107 --> 00:01:25,347 Speaker 4: that full performance. But today I felt like we actually 25 00:01:25,347 --> 00:01:26,867 Speaker 4: had a bit more of a full performance. So it 26 00:01:26,907 --> 00:01:28,707 Speaker 4: was yeah, very satisfying and I think there's a lot 27 00:01:28,707 --> 00:01:30,107 Speaker 4: of happy people in our group at the moment. 28 00:01:30,347 --> 00:01:32,427 Speaker 2: You came in to join Sophie Divine at thirty eight 29 00:01:32,507 --> 00:01:34,907 Speaker 2: for three after winning the toss and batting first. So 30 00:01:35,027 --> 00:01:37,547 Speaker 2: when you arrived, what sort of conversations were you having 31 00:01:37,587 --> 00:01:38,187 Speaker 2: at that time. 32 00:01:39,707 --> 00:01:44,107 Speaker 4: Cricket's a long game, so basically just a better long time. 33 00:01:44,227 --> 00:01:46,267 Speaker 4: So we've kind of had those chats in the last 34 00:01:46,307 --> 00:01:49,067 Speaker 4: couple of days, especially after that South African game and 35 00:01:49,227 --> 00:01:53,707 Speaker 4: just when you're over in India with slower wickets, you know, 36 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:56,707 Speaker 4: taking those ones or even those twos for a long 37 00:01:56,747 --> 00:01:58,867 Speaker 4: period of time actually sets up the game quite nicely. 38 00:01:59,027 --> 00:02:02,387 Speaker 4: And obviously Sophie and I were kind of in that 39 00:02:02,427 --> 00:02:04,587 Speaker 4: position today where that's the role we kind of had 40 00:02:04,627 --> 00:02:07,307 Speaker 4: to take, and we did say it one point and 41 00:02:07,387 --> 00:02:09,707 Speaker 4: our innings like that's actually really hard because both of 42 00:02:09,787 --> 00:02:12,987 Speaker 4: us do like to play shots, and we actually had 43 00:02:12,987 --> 00:02:16,387 Speaker 4: to yeah, mentally try and hold back to a point 44 00:02:16,467 --> 00:02:19,187 Speaker 4: and just yeah, rotate that strike and take it deep. 45 00:02:19,507 --> 00:02:21,707 Speaker 2: So batting with Sophie Divine, I mean, one of our greats. 46 00:02:21,827 --> 00:02:26,707 Speaker 2: What's it like out there? Batting with Sophie Divine? 47 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:28,347 Speaker 5: Very calm. 48 00:02:28,467 --> 00:02:31,707 Speaker 4: I think she's you know, quite a you know when 49 00:02:31,747 --> 00:02:34,107 Speaker 4: you're playing that mini matches for New Zealand and you 50 00:02:34,187 --> 00:02:36,667 Speaker 4: kind of know how I suppose in her mind how 51 00:02:36,667 --> 00:02:37,267 Speaker 4: things are going to go. 52 00:02:37,347 --> 00:02:38,467 Speaker 5: And the biggest thing that I've. 53 00:02:38,427 --> 00:02:39,987 Speaker 4: Enjoyed over the last couple of games that I've been 54 00:02:40,027 --> 00:02:40,267 Speaker 4: able to. 55 00:02:40,267 --> 00:02:41,987 Speaker 5: Bat with her is just how simple she keeps it. 56 00:02:42,027 --> 00:02:44,467 Speaker 4: And it kind of works for me as well, because yeah, 57 00:02:44,467 --> 00:02:46,707 Speaker 4: I don't try and overcomplicate too much, and half the 58 00:02:46,707 --> 00:02:48,347 Speaker 4: time what we talk about in the middle is just 59 00:02:48,467 --> 00:02:52,947 Speaker 4: watchable or you know, we've still got i don't know, 60 00:02:52,947 --> 00:02:54,987 Speaker 4: fifteen overs to the fortieth mark or something on those 61 00:02:55,067 --> 00:02:57,827 Speaker 4: kind of lines. So it's never too heavy, I suppose, 62 00:02:57,907 --> 00:03:01,587 Speaker 4: and we're very different players, so it's never too technical. 63 00:03:01,627 --> 00:03:03,827 Speaker 5: It's very simple, so it's actually really enjoyable. 64 00:03:03,867 --> 00:03:07,547 Speaker 4: And the biggest thing today was just that mental fatigue 65 00:03:07,587 --> 00:03:09,747 Speaker 4: and trying to make sure that we were both all 66 00:03:09,827 --> 00:03:11,907 Speaker 4: right and chicken in with each other, and then later 67 00:03:11,987 --> 00:03:15,987 Speaker 4: on that physical heat fatigue head and kind of came 68 00:03:16,027 --> 00:03:18,867 Speaker 4: in and that was kind of a different conversation, but no, overall, 69 00:03:18,867 --> 00:03:20,187 Speaker 4: Sophia's yeah, really good to bat with. 70 00:03:20,427 --> 00:03:23,107 Speaker 2: So different innings from you today then compared to the 71 00:03:23,467 --> 00:03:26,227 Speaker 2: innings against South Africa the other day forty five off 72 00:03:26,267 --> 00:03:28,547 Speaker 2: thirty seven, you got twenty eight against Australia, so one 73 00:03:28,627 --> 00:03:31,267 Speaker 2: hundred and forty two runs at an average of forty 74 00:03:31,307 --> 00:03:33,707 Speaker 2: seven point three three. So do you feel like you're 75 00:03:33,707 --> 00:03:35,427 Speaker 2: betting well, are you happy with the way you're betting? 76 00:03:36,507 --> 00:03:39,427 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I'm happy with the way I'm betting. 77 00:03:39,427 --> 00:03:41,267 Speaker 4: I'm probably just more frustrating with the way I'm getting 78 00:03:41,267 --> 00:03:44,427 Speaker 4: out because I think I've gotten out playing the same 79 00:03:44,467 --> 00:03:46,987 Speaker 4: shot in all three games, so that probably a sign 80 00:03:46,987 --> 00:03:49,147 Speaker 4: I'm not really learning too quick. But at the same time, 81 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:52,027 Speaker 4: I'm hitting runs or the same shot as well, so 82 00:03:52,027 --> 00:03:54,587 Speaker 4: it's like a very yeah, there's a balance there, and 83 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:56,747 Speaker 4: I just might need to put this slog sweep away 84 00:03:56,787 --> 00:03:57,387 Speaker 4: for a certain. 85 00:03:57,187 --> 00:04:00,547 Speaker 5: Length ball, but you know, I'm really enjoying it. 86 00:04:00,587 --> 00:04:02,467 Speaker 4: And I think the cool thing about these three games 87 00:04:02,467 --> 00:04:04,707 Speaker 4: that I've played, I've had to come in and maybe 88 00:04:04,747 --> 00:04:07,227 Speaker 4: play a little bit differently. And the biggest thing that 89 00:04:07,227 --> 00:04:08,987 Speaker 4: I've kind of wanted to come into the World Cup 90 00:04:09,107 --> 00:04:11,187 Speaker 4: was trying to adapt as quickly as possible and I 91 00:04:11,267 --> 00:04:13,027 Speaker 4: think I have been doing that quite well. And it's 92 00:04:13,067 --> 00:04:16,467 Speaker 4: just yeah, trusting what I am doing and been able 93 00:04:16,467 --> 00:04:18,027 Speaker 4: to stick with that throughout the whole World Cup. 94 00:04:18,507 --> 00:04:21,347 Speaker 2: You've batted at four, five, six, and seven for New 95 00:04:21,427 --> 00:04:25,267 Speaker 2: Zealand during your fifty over career. Number five is number five? 96 00:04:25,347 --> 00:04:26,787 Speaker 2: Is where you are at the moment? Is that your 97 00:04:26,787 --> 00:04:27,147 Speaker 2: best home? 98 00:04:27,187 --> 00:04:27,507 Speaker 5: Do you reckon? 99 00:04:27,507 --> 00:04:29,907 Speaker 2: You found a natural home there in fifty over cricket 100 00:04:29,907 --> 00:04:30,467 Speaker 2: batting at five? 101 00:04:31,507 --> 00:04:33,547 Speaker 4: It's an interesting one because I feel like when you're 102 00:04:33,587 --> 00:04:36,627 Speaker 4: specially in the middle order, you know you can bat four, five, 103 00:04:36,667 --> 00:04:40,827 Speaker 4: six or seven, and the I suppose the role you 104 00:04:40,827 --> 00:04:42,707 Speaker 4: have to play could be completely different no matter where 105 00:04:42,707 --> 00:04:44,707 Speaker 4: you are. So you know, coming in at five, I 106 00:04:44,707 --> 00:04:46,187 Speaker 4: could be in at the tenth over. I could also 107 00:04:46,227 --> 00:04:47,547 Speaker 4: be at the fortieth, but you could be in the 108 00:04:47,587 --> 00:04:50,187 Speaker 4: same kind of situation betting for six or seven. 109 00:04:50,347 --> 00:04:53,427 Speaker 5: So the biggest thing for me, it's nothing really changes. 110 00:04:54,187 --> 00:04:56,227 Speaker 4: I seem to have a home at five at the moment, 111 00:04:56,307 --> 00:04:58,867 Speaker 4: but yeah, not two phays. 112 00:04:58,867 --> 00:04:59,547 Speaker 5: This the end of the day. 113 00:04:59,547 --> 00:05:01,227 Speaker 4: I just watched the ball and try and bat and 114 00:05:01,507 --> 00:05:03,027 Speaker 4: put a team in a position to win. 115 00:05:03,387 --> 00:05:06,507 Speaker 2: And you also today brought up one thousand runs the 116 00:05:06,667 --> 00:05:09,227 Speaker 2: cricket for New Zealand. Did you know you were approaching 117 00:05:09,267 --> 00:05:10,027 Speaker 2: that milestone? 118 00:05:11,107 --> 00:05:13,067 Speaker 4: I came up on the screen when I was waiting 119 00:05:13,107 --> 00:05:15,027 Speaker 4: to bat and Maddie Green was like, oh, you could 120 00:05:15,027 --> 00:05:17,427 Speaker 4: get that today. So yeah, that was the only reason 121 00:05:17,467 --> 00:05:19,507 Speaker 4: I knew, because I sec or the World Cup kind 122 00:05:19,507 --> 00:05:22,507 Speaker 4: of have those milestones on there on the screen at 123 00:05:22,507 --> 00:05:24,307 Speaker 4: times during the match. But other than that, no, I'm 124 00:05:24,307 --> 00:05:25,507 Speaker 4: definitely not a stats person. 125 00:05:25,747 --> 00:05:28,347 Speaker 2: All right. Well, I mean, well it's a nice one 126 00:05:28,387 --> 00:05:30,747 Speaker 2: to tick off anyway, and you just continue batting and 127 00:05:30,787 --> 00:05:33,947 Speaker 2: see what else comes your way. Hey, bowling was three 128 00:05:34,027 --> 00:05:36,587 Speaker 2: wickets each for Jess Kerr and Lea to Who can 129 00:05:36,627 --> 00:05:38,347 Speaker 2: you tell us about their bowling tonight? 130 00:05:39,587 --> 00:05:39,827 Speaker 5: Yeah? 131 00:05:39,867 --> 00:05:42,267 Speaker 4: I thought even Rocco as well, the way that they 132 00:05:42,467 --> 00:05:44,907 Speaker 4: bowled on that pitch. They keep the really simple and 133 00:05:44,947 --> 00:05:46,587 Speaker 4: just hit that hard length that hit the top of 134 00:05:46,587 --> 00:05:48,947 Speaker 4: the bales. And that's the biggest thing that we've kind 135 00:05:48,987 --> 00:05:50,787 Speaker 4: of been talking about as a group of the last 136 00:05:50,827 --> 00:05:52,747 Speaker 4: couple of days. From a bowling point of view, it's 137 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:56,107 Speaker 4: just keeping it simple, as keeping it as simple as 138 00:05:56,147 --> 00:05:59,067 Speaker 4: possible and just being boring. And I think we've seen 139 00:05:59,147 --> 00:06:00,867 Speaker 4: probably I think we might have been the eleventh match 140 00:06:00,907 --> 00:06:02,907 Speaker 4: of the World Cup all ever matches. When the ball 141 00:06:02,987 --> 00:06:04,667 Speaker 4: is actually on the stumps at that good length, it's 142 00:06:04,747 --> 00:06:06,867 Speaker 4: very hard to play and it's just trying to do 143 00:06:06,947 --> 00:06:08,747 Speaker 4: that for a long period of time. And I thought 144 00:06:09,187 --> 00:06:12,187 Speaker 4: our pace bowling group really nailed that today. And yeah, 145 00:06:12,267 --> 00:06:14,467 Speaker 4: Leah and Jess were fortunate to get a few wickets, 146 00:06:14,467 --> 00:06:15,907 Speaker 4: but I thought the oh the way Rocco came and 147 00:06:15,947 --> 00:06:18,067 Speaker 4: also really put us on the front foot. 148 00:06:18,667 --> 00:06:20,387 Speaker 2: And you had a couple of overs today as well, 149 00:06:20,427 --> 00:06:22,507 Speaker 2: you had three in the last game. What is your 150 00:06:22,547 --> 00:06:25,387 Speaker 2: bowling role in the New Zealand fifty overside? 151 00:06:26,587 --> 00:06:27,707 Speaker 5: Oh, it's a heavy question. 152 00:06:28,587 --> 00:06:32,307 Speaker 4: Just just just field and then if Sophie wants me 153 00:06:32,347 --> 00:06:35,547 Speaker 4: to roll the over over over do it and probably 154 00:06:35,627 --> 00:06:37,067 Speaker 4: check a couple of noballs in there as well. 155 00:06:37,107 --> 00:06:38,147 Speaker 5: It seems at the moment, so. 156 00:06:39,947 --> 00:06:41,667 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going really well, So we'll see if I 157 00:06:41,667 --> 00:06:42,667 Speaker 4: get another overnext game. 158 00:06:42,987 --> 00:06:45,627 Speaker 2: Do you see a time though, where your bowling contribution 159 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:48,427 Speaker 2: is more significant and fifty over cricket? Like, can you 160 00:06:48,427 --> 00:06:51,307 Speaker 2: see a time where you bowl your ten overs for example. 161 00:06:51,507 --> 00:06:52,307 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely not. 162 00:06:52,387 --> 00:06:55,867 Speaker 4: I do not see me ever bowling ten overs. I 163 00:06:55,987 --> 00:06:58,587 Speaker 4: have told Ben Sawyers so many times that he needs 164 00:06:58,587 --> 00:07:01,827 Speaker 4: to lower my bowling loads because it's unrealistic that I've 165 00:07:01,827 --> 00:07:08,027 Speaker 4: ever going bowl ten overs sixsovers, you know, like it's 166 00:07:08,067 --> 00:07:10,707 Speaker 4: from like a yeah, never an ode. Obviously domestic crickets 167 00:07:10,707 --> 00:07:13,427 Speaker 4: a little bit different. But yeah, my role definitely in 168 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:17,907 Speaker 4: this team is batting with the odd part time, roll 169 00:07:17,907 --> 00:07:18,427 Speaker 4: the arm over. 170 00:07:19,027 --> 00:07:22,507 Speaker 2: So next up shri Lanka Colombo on Tuesday. How do 171 00:07:22,547 --> 00:07:25,227 Speaker 2: you best use tonight as the springboard for the rest 172 00:07:25,227 --> 00:07:25,827 Speaker 2: of the tournament. 173 00:07:27,427 --> 00:07:32,227 Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously that momentum and the I think the positivity, 174 00:07:32,587 --> 00:07:35,107 Speaker 4: the you know a few of the girls who are a. 175 00:07:35,107 --> 00:07:36,747 Speaker 5: Lot happier today which also helps. 176 00:07:36,747 --> 00:07:38,747 Speaker 4: And I think if we can just carry that through 177 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:41,867 Speaker 4: over the next few days looking into Schlanka, it's always 178 00:07:41,867 --> 00:07:44,027 Speaker 4: a positive. And for us, I think the way that 179 00:07:44,227 --> 00:07:46,467 Speaker 4: you know, Sophie and I did bat today kind of 180 00:07:46,747 --> 00:07:48,387 Speaker 4: kind of gives an insight into the way that we 181 00:07:48,467 --> 00:07:53,347 Speaker 4: might have to bat with Colombo wickets with it being 182 00:07:53,347 --> 00:07:55,827 Speaker 4: a little little bit slower. So it's just you know, 183 00:07:55,867 --> 00:07:58,507 Speaker 4: individually figuring out maybe on those slower wickets how we're 184 00:07:58,507 --> 00:08:00,827 Speaker 4: going to approach that and stick into our game plan 185 00:08:00,867 --> 00:08:03,107 Speaker 4: and actually being boring, whether that's with the ball or 186 00:08:03,107 --> 00:08:05,427 Speaker 4: the bat. And you know, hopefully today we kind of 187 00:08:05,467 --> 00:08:07,227 Speaker 4: saw that, you know, if you grownd a way, you 188 00:08:07,307 --> 00:08:10,507 Speaker 4: can still be able to put a competitive total, specially 189 00:08:10,507 --> 00:08:12,107 Speaker 4: with the way that Maddie and you know lead to 190 00:08:12,147 --> 00:08:14,387 Speaker 4: who who came out embatted and that last ten over 191 00:08:14,507 --> 00:08:16,707 Speaker 4: is to kind of give us a competitive score. 192 00:08:17,387 --> 00:08:20,107 Speaker 2: Well, congrats on the win today and your significant part 193 00:08:20,147 --> 00:08:21,587 Speaker 2: and it Brook, thanks for chatting to us or the 194 00:08:21,587 --> 00:08:23,787 Speaker 2: best against Sri Lanka on Tuesday and for the rest 195 00:08:23,827 --> 00:08:24,547 Speaker 2: of the tournament too. 196 00:08:24,867 --> 00:08:26,307 Speaker 5: Thank you, no, thank you. 197 00:08:26,187 --> 00:08:28,147 Speaker 2: Brook for joining us. Brook Holliday there out of the 198 00:08:28,147 --> 00:08:31,147 Speaker 2: white fern. So I will win for them against Bangladesh 199 00:08:31,187 --> 00:08:33,227 Speaker 2: this morning. The way the Women's World Cup works, there 200 00:08:33,227 --> 00:08:36,507 Speaker 2: are eight teams. Everybody plays everybody in round robin, so 201 00:08:36,547 --> 00:08:39,707 Speaker 2: he plays seven games and then the top four go 202 00:08:39,867 --> 00:08:43,507 Speaker 2: through to the semi finals. So really you kind of 203 00:08:43,547 --> 00:08:47,147 Speaker 2: got to win four games. That is the size of it. Really. 204 00:08:47,227 --> 00:08:51,027 Speaker 2: New Zealand lost their first two of course to Australia 205 00:08:51,147 --> 00:08:53,427 Speaker 2: and then to South Africa, so good to get the 206 00:08:53,467 --> 00:08:56,707 Speaker 2: win on the board here. Next up they play. As 207 00:08:56,747 --> 00:08:59,947 Speaker 2: I just mentioned Sri Lanka on Wednesday. Sri Lanka have 208 00:09:00,067 --> 00:09:03,867 Speaker 2: had a loss and a no result so far. Then Pakistan. 209 00:09:03,947 --> 00:09:07,827 Speaker 2: Pakistan have played three and lost three, and then it 210 00:09:07,947 --> 00:09:10,907 Speaker 2: is India after that. The home side they've had a 211 00:09:10,947 --> 00:09:13,627 Speaker 2: couple of wins in a loss. And finally for the 212 00:09:13,627 --> 00:09:17,627 Speaker 2: White Ferns that is England. So they're not exactly in 213 00:09:17,747 --> 00:09:22,107 Speaker 2: must win territory, but you don't want to lose too 214 00:09:22,147 --> 00:09:22,947 Speaker 2: many More from here. 215 00:09:23,707 --> 00:09:26,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 216 00:09:27,027 --> 00:09:30,307 Speaker 1: to News Talk sat B weekends from midday or follow 217 00:09:30,347 --> 00:09:31,947 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio