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Speaker 2: Wars call.
Speaker 3: Me a type of fisher Harris.
Speaker 2: He went one last head up.
Speaker 3: Defficult type siren and the Warriors have won this top
Speaker 3: of the table clash. They had beaten the Penrith Panthers
Speaker 3: twenty eight points to twelve.
Speaker 2: A statement home went over the table top is a
Speaker 2: very special night out of Go Media. Former Panther Ryan
Speaker 2: Girdler leads us off shortly with his reaction. Warriors assistant
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Speaker 2: Edb returning half back Luke Metcalf has marshaled and inspired
Speaker 2: Warrior's performance, helping them claim a twenty eight to twelve
Speaker 2: win over the table topping Penrith Panthers at go Media Stadium, Bill.
Speaker 3: Two to Come, donnet now met toushop table turn. There
Speaker 3: is as we meant to turn.
Speaker 2: The stages set for that meant SI the number seven possession.
Speaker 2: Luke Metcalf scored two tries, kicked four or five conversions
Speaker 2: and helped the Warriors move to within two points of
Speaker 2: the Panthers and the Roosters at the top of the
Speaker 2: NRL ladder. Ryan Gerdler played over two hundred games for
Speaker 2: the Panthers. He was an NRL champion with them in
Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Also a New South Wales state
Speaker 2: of origin and Australian representative, He's now part of Triple
Speaker 2: m's NRL coverage, the NRL's number one audio network as
Speaker 2: an incisive and respected analyst, and he joins us now. Ryan,
Speaker 2: thanks for your time, how impressive. Was that Warriors performance
Speaker 2: against the competition leaders?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think you certainly put the competition on notice.
Speaker 4: I think we've all been sort of speaking all year
Speaker 4: about the importance of those guys finishing one or two
Speaker 4: so they get some finals at Mount Smart and I
Speaker 4: sort of watched it. Obviously, sorry for the noise on
Speaker 4: at the airport about to go home, but obviously see it,
Speaker 4: you know, on a weekly basis, the crowd and the
Speaker 4: energy that they bring and the performance out there Mount Smart.
Speaker 4: But to be their live was something that was really
Speaker 4: good to experience. And now I really understand what they mean.
Speaker 4: If they can get a couple of home finals, they're
Speaker 4: going to be very hard to be.
Speaker 2: What was it about the Warriors last night that gave
Speaker 2: them the edge?
Speaker 4: I think like their physicality, their intensity obviously you know,
Speaker 4: being indigenous round and the cultural aspect of it. And
Speaker 4: to see the guys, you know, or the Marry guys
Speaker 4: sort of performed the Harker beforehand, and you just saw
Speaker 4: how that engaged the crowd. It kind of reminded me
Speaker 4: of like a test match. And then from there, you know,
Speaker 4: the onset they were just really physical. I thought they
Speaker 4: were led really well by obviously Barnett, but I thought
Speaker 4: James last night, which is exceptional, especially in those moments
Speaker 4: where the momentums going back to Penrith there in the
Speaker 4: second half, some of his leadership there was there for
Speaker 4: all to see. And obviously, you know, I think they've
Speaker 4: been really they looked really settled with their attacking structures.
Speaker 4: I thought they were great last week against the Titans,
Speaker 4: obviously with that win, but I don't know, they just
Speaker 4: seemed to be all full of confidence and really well
Speaker 4: connected and they got great balance.
Speaker 5: So it was just ann out Stephen.
Speaker 4: Though Pentrath made a little bit of a push at
Speaker 4: the later part of the game. I thought they were
Speaker 4: just always in complete control and they were really impressive.
Speaker 2: And into the mix, of course came Luke Metcalf who
Speaker 2: hasn't played for quite a long time. Looked like he'd
Speaker 2: never been away. A couple of tries, good kicking game,
Speaker 2: plenty of confidence. How much did he impress you last night?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Look, you know, I think it was over four hundred
Speaker 4: days since he played halfback, so obviously been playing a
Speaker 4: little bit of five eighth and I know that there's
Speaker 4: a similar role, but he went into that first receiver
Speaker 4: role last night and did a great job. You spoke about,
Speaker 4: you know, the tries that he scored and the impact
Speaker 4: he had with the football, but it was you know,
Speaker 4: he's kicking game and his maturity and his decision defensively
Speaker 4: and all the little parts of his game that I
Speaker 4: was really impressed with last night as well.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, it's going to be great for you guys.
Speaker 4: To have him pushing into the finals like a Hello Sema.
Speaker 2: He keeps producing moments to excite people both sides of
Speaker 2: the Talnsman, do you see him becoming one of the
Speaker 2: real genuine styles of the NRL over the next couple
Speaker 2: of years?
Speaker 7: Oh, look, I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't see why not. You know, like he's got
Speaker 4: all the attributes, doesn't he. And last night, you know
Speaker 4: some of those the chases he put through with the
Speaker 4: kicks and then the acrobatics in the air. So just
Speaker 4: always seeing different parts of his game and his development
Speaker 4: and obviously that run out of trouble and then setting
Speaker 4: up the try in the same set of six. So
Speaker 4: he had a massive impact in the game last night.
Speaker 4: And he's a big physical guy and you know it
Speaker 4: just could be a guy that could just be, you know,
Speaker 4: the star power that you guys need in those big
Speaker 4: games in the finals, when someone's got to pull something
Speaker 4: out of the out of the out of the kit bag,
Speaker 4: he might just be the guy to do that. With
Speaker 4: the confidency out of the moment, we've.
Speaker 2: Become used to seeing Penrith finding another gear when they're behind.
Speaker 2: Did you think they were going to mount one of
Speaker 2: their trademark comebacks last night?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well not really, to be honest, Like, I thought
Speaker 4: the Warriors were in complete control of that one. Obviously,
Speaker 4: there was that ten or so minutes where they had
Speaker 4: a little bit of possession. They came up with some
Speaker 4: points and Nathan sort of pulled the trigger. But as
Speaker 4: soon as that tried to I think it was alimony
Speaker 4: was disallowed because they were offside.
Speaker 6: I thought that court of the.
Speaker 4: Air went out of the balloon. Then I think the
Speaker 4: Warriors and their fans were getting a little bit nervous.
Speaker 4: But but it was fleeting, you know that. I thought
Speaker 4: they were in complete control the whole night.
Speaker 2: Actually is a going off with the pectoral injury. If
Speaker 2: he's unavailable for an extended period, Ryan, how much does
Speaker 2: that change Penrith's premiership outlook?
Speaker 4: Oh, it definitely does. You know, like there's only a
Speaker 4: certain amount of players, you know, in each team that
Speaker 4: can have that sort of impact, and him and Nathan
Speaker 4: and those guys, I would say at Penrith, and he's
Speaker 4: a big part of their attacking structures.
Speaker 6: He allows their.
Speaker 4: Halves just to get that little bit wider and obviously
Speaker 4: he's a great leader, great defensively and he's a big
Speaker 4: part of what they do. So if he's out, it
Speaker 4: certainly brings them back to the field.
Speaker 2: Panthers worry is the Roosters won last night. The Sharks
Speaker 2: will probably beat the Dragons. This is some top four race,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's turning into a nice one. I think at
Speaker 4: the halfway make everyone was a little bit worried that
Speaker 4: the Penrith side were that good they were going to
Speaker 4: kind of blow everyone away and it was a one
Speaker 4: horse race. But I think we're seeing that, you know,
Speaker 4: these other sides growing in confidence, and the Sharks are
Speaker 4: mounting what looks like a really good finals push as well.
Speaker 4: And the Roosters where they I had a look at
Speaker 4: the back end of their game last night. They found
Speaker 4: a way to win against the Bulldogs, who were also
Speaker 4: making a little bit of a push at the bottom
Speaker 4: part of the A so it's going to be a
Speaker 4: very interesting final series as always.
Speaker 2: Great to have you here for this one, Ryan, hope
Speaker 2: we can welcome you back for a finals game or two. Mate.
Speaker 4: Well maybe, yeah, it looks like I'll be coming back
Speaker 4: over and then obviously I'll be part of the Origin
Speaker 4: push next year at when we come over at Eton Park,
Speaker 4: which is going to be exciting as well.
Speaker 2: Outstanding. Hey, great to chat. May travel safe. Really appreciate
Speaker 2: your time.
Speaker 4: My pleasure and enjoy the rest of the season with
Speaker 4: the Warriors and I wish them all the best.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, indeed, Ryan, good to talk to you, mate,
Speaker 2: Ryan Girdler There, Penrith Panthers Legend Warriors assistant coach SLAVEH.
Speaker 2: Griffin is with us before one o'clock time though, for
Speaker 2: your calls now at twelve sixteen oh eight hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. The Warriors are real. They are genuine
Speaker 2: NRL contenders. On that evidence, they can beat any team
Speaker 2: on any given night. The Panthers are the NRL benchmark.
Speaker 2: Before last night, they had lost fewer games than anybody
Speaker 2: else this season. They've scored more points than anybody else
Speaker 2: the Panthers and conceded fewer than anyone else. They hadn't
Speaker 2: lost to the Warriors in Auckland since twenty eighteen. For
Speaker 2: the Warriors to beat them and to produce that first
Speaker 2: half that they did tells you everything you need to
Speaker 2: know about the Warriors. They can go all the way.
Speaker 2: Luke Metcalf doesn't matter how it happened, he's back. He's
Speaker 2: had to be extremely patient, but last night was a
Speaker 2: reminder of what a quality rugby league player he is.
Speaker 2: To Mighty Martin's been really good, really good since taking
Speaker 2: over from Tanner Boyd. But Luke Metcalf is a very
Speaker 2: special rugby league player and yes he may be wearing
Speaker 2: different colors next year, but for the next two months
Speaker 2: he is a warrior and he could well be the
Speaker 2: key warrior. Others to stand out Aaron Clark absolute machine,
Speaker 2: My god, what a player, James Fisher, Harris, what a leader.
Speaker 2: Lack of hallisima. That kid could be anything he wants.
Speaker 2: The NRL Minor Premiership is a four horse race. Panthers
Speaker 2: thirty six, Roosters, thirty six Warriors thirty four. As I
Speaker 2: said to Ryan Girdler, the Sharks will probably beat the
Speaker 2: Dragons and move to thirty four, so it'll be thirty six,
Speaker 2: thirty six, thirty four to thirty four. After that, everybody
Speaker 2: will have four games to go. The Warriors have the
Speaker 2: Broncos away, the rabbit O's away, the Knights at home,
Speaker 2: the Sea Eagles at home. Those teams are currently sixteenth, eighth,
Speaker 2: sixth and tenth. Those games are all winnable, but in
Speaker 2: the NRL every game is losable as well. The Warriors
Speaker 2: lost to the Tigers in the early part of the season.
Speaker 2: They lost the Bulldogs two weeks ago. Nothing is guaranteed,
Speaker 2: but it is hard not to get excited about what
Speaker 2: this team can do could do between now and early October.
Speaker 2: All aboard oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty calls
Speaker 2: stacking up Alan High Here.
Speaker 6: Good afternoon, Jason. Look that when last night you can
Speaker 6: put that down to the Fords. It was the most
Speaker 6: magnificent forward display I've seen for a long long time.
Speaker 6: They absolutely dominated and the key to it is that
Speaker 6: somebody like Metcalf can do what he did without the
Speaker 6: Fords putting in the groundwork. Luke Metcalf doesn't fire. Think
Speaker 6: about this, Think about this, Luke Metcalf did most of
Speaker 6: the damage going up the center of the paddock. How
Speaker 6: many times did our two wingers, Lesniak and carn Perreira
Speaker 6: actually have a run with the ball where they weren't
Speaker 6: taking it up? They just the game was played in
Speaker 6: the center of the paddock, and our forwards were just
Speaker 6: magnificent and capable. Laban and Barnett, they topped the tackle
Speaker 6: count for US. Laban made forty six tackles as well
Speaker 6: as taking it up. It just Laban and Kirk Capble
Speaker 6: were the quiet ones on the paddock last night, and
Speaker 6: yet they rolled their sleeves up and they did magnificently
Speaker 6: in an area where the spotlight really shines on rugby league.
Speaker 6: And I just thought it was the most complete performance
Speaker 6: by the Fords I've seen.
Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff Ow and yeah Capewell and Laban, I mean,
Speaker 2: what a second row, you know? And look Capewell, I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. Sometimes I think Laban probably more than Capewell,
Speaker 2: goes unnoticed. Capewell had that heads up play when he
Speaker 2: said he got the short pass from Metcalf and then
Speaker 2: gave it back to him for Luke Metcaw's first try.
Speaker 2: But you're right. I mean, I've just got the list here. Fisher, Harris, Egan,
Speaker 2: Barney at Capewell, Laban Clark, that's the starting forward pack.
Speaker 2: All tremendous last night, All utterly tremendous.
Speaker 6: Yes, I honestly, and I liked Nicol Klodstadt at the back.
Speaker 6: He's got a different game to Taw Picky. We know that,
Speaker 6: and I have nothing against Tower Picky. But doesn't Clodstead
Speaker 6: suit a Ford sort of game because he's a full back.
Speaker 6: It's not fancy, but he gets yards. He gets the
Speaker 6: start of the set of six off to a good
Speaker 6: start where it were generally with a very good run
Speaker 6: where he'll make some sufficient yards to start getting everybody
Speaker 6: back on side, and he's reliable at the back. I
Speaker 6: just think that he's different from two of us a check.
Speaker 6: We know that, but his style suits our game at
Speaker 6: the moment. Right down the line.
Speaker 2: Good man, Ellen, good points. Well, my great call to
Speaker 2: kick us off things today. Man, Let's talk again soon,
Speaker 2: Alick Hi Piney.
Speaker 7: How's the game?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 2: All right? What a game?
Speaker 7: What a game? Last night?
Speaker 8: Brother?
Speaker 7: Jesus out of my seat. The first forty minutes was
Speaker 7: just unbelievable.
Speaker 9: For the boys.
Speaker 7: I think it's just started from their hucke a pointy.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know that that was going to happen,
Speaker 7: but yeah, you could just see that the boys got
Speaker 7: up for it, even just that that first kickoff at
Speaker 7: first set, they were just hammering the Penrith boys. Penmouth
Speaker 7: just couldn't get out do nothing. And then I mean,
Speaker 7: you know, the likes of Luke Metcalfe and the backs,
Speaker 7: they just rode those the Fords, you know, because the
Speaker 7: Fords la laid that platform for the boys. So it
Speaker 7: was it was just a great performance, especially that that
Speaker 7: first forty, probably the best first forty I've seen us
Speaker 7: play for for ages really I.
Speaker 2: Agree, I agree, And often we worried, don't we about
Speaker 2: their start, and their start isn't always great.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you look up and all of a sudden, that's
Speaker 2: ten Niel to the other team any man like man.
Speaker 2: Our guys aren't there yet, but that haka and as
Speaker 2: I understand it, and got Slag Griffin on later in
Speaker 2: the hour, I'll ask can but I think James Fisher
Speaker 2: Harris was the driving force behind that, and you could
Speaker 2: see the you know, the Moldi and Pacific Island boys there,
Speaker 2: but everyone else behind them as well, the Australian guys
Speaker 2: just I mean, honestly they I think Luke Metcalf said
Speaker 2: afterwards he wanted to jump in and even though he
Speaker 2: didn't really know that, he wanted to be a pardon good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I was brilliant and I was just good
Speaker 7: to see Luke Beck, you know, misus bort his time,
Speaker 7: and obviously with the injury to Mighty coming up and
Speaker 7: then man come with the man cometh the hour, you know, Jesus,
Speaker 7: it's just so good.
Speaker 5: Good for us.
Speaker 7: We've got a deep squad, you know, and I'm just
Speaker 7: excited to see the boys running to the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 7: obviously it would have been good last night if the
Speaker 7: Bulldogs pip those Roosters, but they just just got outdone. Really,
Speaker 7: so next week's game Tens's Roosters is going to be
Speaker 7: a good one. And then obviously for us, we've still
Speaker 7: got to take take care of what we've got to
Speaker 7: do as well.
Speaker 2: Pointy, Indeed, Alick, indeed, it's hard not to get excited.
Speaker 2: I can feel it in your voice, mate, it's bubbling,
Speaker 2: it's bubbling, and rightly so, Maly, Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 2: talk again soon as this run and continues and then
Speaker 2: into the finals. Good to hear from you, Alick. Good
Speaker 2: to get the enthusiasm out there. This is what you're
Speaker 2: supposed to do when your team wins. You're supposed to
Speaker 2: be excited about it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 2: eighty is our number. Paul, You were there, won't you.
Speaker 6: Paul?
Speaker 2: You told me last week you were going down for
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm final. Yep, you know, well, we were there,
Speaker 10: just heading back up more at the moment, the atmosphere
Speaker 10: in the stadium was out of his world. Finding it
Speaker 10: was absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2: Than Yeah, yeah, you just wrent into into a dark
Speaker 2: spot there. But I think we got what you were
Speaker 2: saying so before the game when when the hacker was
Speaker 2: on and it just seemed, as you said, as though
Speaker 2: the energy was up even more than it normally. Is
Speaker 2: there a gaire? I know you've been there a few times.
Speaker 2: Did it feel demonstrably just more of a vibe there
Speaker 2: last night?
Speaker 10: Absolutely. I've always said I can generally tell whether the
Speaker 10: wars are on when they come out, you know, for
Speaker 10: the warm up, and when they when they first get
Speaker 10: out in the first five or ten minutes, you can
Speaker 10: generally tell when any team is on and that it
Speaker 10: seems more so this year. That first ten twenty minutes
Speaker 10: of a game. Now is you know the team that
Speaker 10: mon eight or it's on the front foot and can
Speaker 10: tell of the blocks really quick. It's the team that
Speaker 10: generally wins the game. And we saw last week against
Speaker 10: the Bulldogs. The Boos did that to us, and we
Speaker 10: did that to the Panthers last night. You've got to
Speaker 10: come out firing straight away. And it was just such
Speaker 10: a such a good.
Speaker 2: Game, mate, Charms and fall back. You would have enjoyed
Speaker 2: saying that. I can't remember you're a fan of him
Speaker 2: in the one jersey, aren't you?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I am, I am.
Speaker 10: It's a tough one because you know, we all know
Speaker 10: how good Taint is. But what a replacement to bring
Speaker 10: in a Chance the guys who have been here for
Speaker 10: a while, the leaders, you know, Charns and Dellan an
Speaker 10: absolutely amazing game last night. He was everywhere. A few
Speaker 10: times he even went over to the other side of
Speaker 10: the field and took the ball up. He was so
Speaker 10: fired up. And James obviously stood up last night. And
Speaker 10: I do like Chance at four, but He's just he's fearless, mate,
Speaker 10: He's fearless and that's what we want here.
Speaker 2: What was it like afterwards? You know, it just feels
Speaker 2: as though that crowd loves the Warrior's were and they
Speaker 2: love a warrior's game. But what is it like when
Speaker 2: that whistle blows that song has sung a lot of
Speaker 2: the players stay out, don't they to sign and to
Speaker 2: have selfies and stuff. What's it like after a win
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Well, I sang to a mate, you know, I said
Speaker 10: to him on the way down, I said, you know,
Speaker 10: are we going to be seeing this king song tonight
Speaker 10: or are we going to be one of those treated
Speaker 10: drive home drives home when you're a bit sad. But
Speaker 10: that's absolutely fantastic to sing the song. Everyone stays around
Speaker 10: and you see familiar faces. Everyone loves the wars.
Speaker 8: At the ground.
Speaker 10: It's just it's a huge family, that's all I can
Speaker 10: describe it as a huge family, and the atmospheres out
Speaker 10: of this world and they do it so well. There
Speaker 10: go media. I was saying to Jerry Cuss, who I
Speaker 10: caught up with him watching the new Southwest Cup game.
Speaker 10: I said to him, you know, the Warriors about grow
Speaker 10: in the stadium. You know, it was twenty five thousand
Speaker 10: and then they sell it out all the time. I
Speaker 10: can't even see that changing. And you know we we
Speaker 10: we need another ten thousand seats here or something. So
Speaker 10: you're definitely helped growing that stadium.
Speaker 2: How did Jet Cleary look in the New Southwest Cup game?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 11: No, he was.
Speaker 10: He was fantastic. You know, nextually, I love to think
Speaker 10: one is the depth. You know, can a boy met
Speaker 10: you know Tomnie Martin and watching Kit play in the
Speaker 10: New Southlast Cup. He was brilliant, mate, he's brilliant and
Speaker 10: he he's another one coming through. So next man up
Speaker 10: mentality and it's looking good for for next year. But
Speaker 10: just looking at this year, you know all the commentators
Speaker 10: and ex scripts over there, they picked the Wars and
Speaker 10: you know they're a dangerous team, and yeah, who knows
Speaker 10: this could be a year. Mate, Let's hope.
Speaker 2: Let's hope. Don't don't book anything unmovable into the diary
Speaker 2: for the next two months, Paul, unless it's Warriors. Ride
Speaker 2: and drive safe, mate, Always good to Jet you twelve
Speaker 2: twenty seven, eight hundred and eighty ten out You got
Speaker 2: to get a break away back after this with more
Speaker 2: of your warrior's calls. Spear line there if you want
Speaker 2: to jump aboard. Although they are being taken up fairly quickly,
Speaker 2: everybody wants to talk. The Magnificent is backing the O.
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Speaker 2: Twelve thirty on Newstalks EDB Jason. That was a championship
Speaker 2: winning match. Great to watch. I think we can start
Speaker 2: believing again. I agree. I agree with that text, Hi, Jason.
Speaker 2: The Panthers points were scored while Wade Egan was off
Speaker 2: with an HIA. How important is he? Very important? And
Speaker 2: Dicky says Egan was the puppet master in the middle.
Speaker 2: His passing game was outstanding. Couldn't agree more. Frank High,
Speaker 2: you would have enjoyed that.
Speaker 12: Yes, I'm still up there. Yeah, my flag is flying high.
Speaker 12: As I said in the first game about the swallow
Speaker 12: one swallowing up, doesn't it make a summer? I can
Speaker 12: actually say the materializing now this that game that they
Speaker 12: played with gains the Titans. I think that was the
Speaker 12: one that was a catalyst for I think this is
Speaker 12: going to be a terrific run home. That gave them
Speaker 12: the confidence that I don't think they actually they actually had.
Speaker 12: They knew they could do it. They had the debts,
Speaker 12: they had, the family had the power, they had the speed,
Speaker 12: they hadn't actually put it together to given them that
Speaker 12: bull and that confidence. And that was the That was
Speaker 12: the catalyst that Titans game. That that's given that that
Speaker 12: that forward motion. Now and I'm predicting that I don't
Speaker 12: think it's going to be the Panther's final. I think
Speaker 12: we're going to I think it's going to be a
Speaker 12: I think it's going to be a Warrior's Roosters final.
Speaker 2: I knew you were going to say that. I knew
Speaker 2: you were going to say you were going to say
Speaker 2: the Roosters frankl have won their last seven. Three of
Speaker 2: their last four games in the regular season are against
Speaker 2: teams in the top eight, including the Panthers, who they
Speaker 2: play next. But they they and actually the other ones
Speaker 2: are the Sharks, who have won nine of their last ten.
Speaker 2: So this is an absolute sprint mate for the finish
Speaker 2: line between the Panthers the Roosters the Warriors and the
Speaker 2: Sharks one, two, three, four could be any order, it
Speaker 2: really could.
Speaker 12: But look who we've got to play though on that
Speaker 12: as we come into the home straight with this momentum
Speaker 12: that's building up. We've got the Broncos, the rabbit Os,
Speaker 12: the Knights, the Sea Eagles, and I think they're all
Speaker 12: for the picking. I know it's sport, but things can
Speaker 12: go awry, but I just go and don't forget. Also,
Speaker 12: I mean, I can't name all of our players played
Speaker 12: so well, but don't forget. We've got Jackson Ford sitting
Speaker 12: out there. He could be coming in on that last
Speaker 12: one or two games as well. And I'm just I'm
Speaker 12: just so excited about this this and this team. I
Speaker 12: do believe, you know, Piney, I do believe could go
Speaker 12: down in history as one of the greatest NRL sides.
Speaker 12: Just hope that prediction comes to fruition and I think
Speaker 12: it will.
Speaker 2: Good on your Frank. Always enjoy chatting Rugby Luke with you, mate.
Speaker 2: I know how much you enjoy watching the Warriors when
Speaker 2: they play like that. In fact, you watch them every week.
Speaker 2: Always good chatting to your mate. Let's do it again soon.
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty tenuty ten number. What did
Speaker 2: you make of it?
Speaker 9: Mark, Yeah, I was just.
Speaker 13: Thinking I was at the final when we played the Roosters.
Speaker 13: Maybe maybe we don't want to play them in the final.
Speaker 2: Well maybe it's maybe it's you mate, Maybe you just
Speaker 2: have to not go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I won't go.
Speaker 13: Actually, I was thinking I might go if they do
Speaker 13: make the files. Last night, I think the student became
Speaker 13: the master. I thought, you know, you've got to give
Speaker 13: a lot of credit to Whereby. He's got this team firing,
Speaker 13: and he's got a lot of Vitrim players playing the
Speaker 13: best games of their lives.
Speaker 5: I reckon.
Speaker 13: I also think the Ford pack is probably one of
Speaker 13: the best, you know, given the interchange year, is probably
Speaker 13: one of the best Ford pack on the field and
Speaker 13: on the bench that probably I've seen from any inn
Speaker 13: RL team. And you know, as the last cooler said Jackson,
Speaker 13: board's got to come back. So yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 13: to like about it. And I think, you know, we
Speaker 13: saw Isaiah Yoga off last night and that's a huge
Speaker 13: blow for the Pets. But with such a talented and
Speaker 13: sort of balanced team, was so much resilience, probably because
Speaker 13: we've had so many injuries throughout the last couple of years.
Speaker 13: But he's built a team, as I said, you've got
Speaker 13: to give credit to whereby he's built a team that
Speaker 13: has this residience. So if anyone goes down, we've still
Speaker 13: got a really absolutely strong team. You know, we've seeing
Speaker 13: Tann and Boyd go down and was seeing you know,
Speaker 13: Chanelle and Martin come through. And you've got Metcalfe there
Speaker 13: who had had a really good game last night. So
Speaker 13: it wouldn't really matter who gets injured. Now, I think
Speaker 13: they'd still be one of the one of the favorites
Speaker 13: to win the competition at the stage, given the last
Speaker 13: two games in their form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree, And the only well, it's
Speaker 2: it's not a worry. I was going to say, they're
Speaker 2: only worry. It's just this last four four games and
Speaker 2: how they all play out, Mark, and what the finishing
Speaker 2: order is. We all know the advantage of finishing in
Speaker 2: the top two and the top four, which now seems inevitable.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that that top two finish, I mean, no
Speaker 2: one wants to go to go media now, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't belave it did, but there's no way anybody
Speaker 2: wants to go there.
Speaker 13: Well, well, the top two teams play each other next week,
Speaker 13: so I mean, I guess either one of those is
Speaker 13: going to lose. So that's going to bring it down
Speaker 13: a bit. But I just wanted to say one more
Speaker 13: thing about the four pass. You know, the NRL competition
Speaker 13: has refereed really well, but the stupidity of these four passes,
Speaker 13: and we saw it against Brince from a couple of
Speaker 13: years ago, you know, with that ridiculous four pass and
Speaker 13: last night, and I'm not just saying the Warriors, but
Speaker 13: you know, the TMO should have the ability if it's
Speaker 13: clearly passed forward to say that was a ridiculously forward
Speaker 13: pass and it should either be a penalty or a scrum, don't.
Speaker 2: You think absolutely. I mean it's it's clear as the
Speaker 2: nose on your face. Everybody saw it. It's up on
Speaker 2: the screen. Everybody knows it's a forward pass, and they
Speaker 2: want that because of what the bunker can't and devene
Speaker 2: for that particular infringement. They just carry on, Nah, so obvious.
Speaker 13: You know, sometimes the ref will go, oh, I've made
Speaker 13: a mistake, and you know clearly I've made a mistake,
Speaker 13: will reverse that. But he's looking at the screen going
Speaker 13: that's so far forward. It's ridiculous, but I can't roll
Speaker 13: on it. I mean, you've just got I mean it
Speaker 13: seems such a simple change, and I mean you wouldn't
Speaker 13: want that to cost a team, any team you know,
Speaker 13: a spot in the final World Championship, would you?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not? Mark? Yeah, what I think? Andrew Webster said
Speaker 2: afterwards it was the It was the second most forward
Speaker 2: pass he's ever seen. Do you'd like to see the
Speaker 2: most forward pass? Good on you, Mark, Good to chat
Speaker 2: to you. The reason it's important to finish in the
Speaker 2: top two is around the playoff format. In Week one
Speaker 2: one plays four, and two plays three. One and two
Speaker 2: are the hosts of those games, and the winners get
Speaker 2: a Week two by and a home preliminary final, at
Speaker 2: which point there only one game away from the grand final.
Speaker 2: So you get an extra life if you're third or fourth,
Speaker 2: but you have to go away in week one, you're
Speaker 2: at home in week two and that's an advantage. But
Speaker 2: finishing in the top two is a massive, massive advantage. Hey, Chris,
Speaker 2: get it, bunny.
Speaker 14: A couple of notes made just the post match interview
Speaker 14: stuff almost James Fisher Harris with his Danian loader esque
Speaker 14: approach to giving good feedback, but a guy that really
Speaker 14: did his talking. I guess on the field last night
Speaker 14: and there's covered tackle, mate, you know, you look at
Speaker 14: up the yards and up the middle and what he
Speaker 14: did to cover to get there just listed tenfold. And
Speaker 14: another thought I had around seeing Lucky Metcalf scoring that try.
Speaker 14: He referred to the Jade Bellingham moment in terms of
Speaker 14: just acknowledging, you know, don't forget me.
Speaker 9: But the transition from what was to what is and.
Speaker 14: His role his role seemed to me like he didn't
Speaker 14: really have to do a lot. He just knew knew
Speaker 14: his game and that whole collective around what it meant
Speaker 14: to be unified and really just sitting the complete sets
Speaker 14: of six Magical and in the interview West Jawny and
Speaker 14: the crew after, there was almost a sense of he
Speaker 14: was embarrassed, but there was intrinsically a sense of on back,
Speaker 14: don't forget me, and that was pretty powerful.
Speaker 2: Love it, Chris, love it, mate, And yeah, I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed his postmatch interview as well. I think he's very honest,
Speaker 2: you know, and that you know, he could easily have
Speaker 2: come out and said oh no, no, no, I was
Speaker 2: just being patient I was just you know, waiting for
Speaker 2: my turn, but he said, no, I did get a
Speaker 2: bit of a chip on my shoulder. I did, you know,
Speaker 2: I did start to think, you know, hey, don't forget
Speaker 2: a out me. And yeah, the dude even said, Dude Bellingham,
Speaker 2: didn't he wear the arms out wide? Talk about a
Speaker 2: n iconic photo. I mean I've seen that thought to
Speaker 2: everywhere last night and today he could Chris, he could
Speaker 2: be massive for the Warriors in the next eight weeks.
Speaker 2: He really could, Matt.
Speaker 14: You know, you talk about, you know, what sports psychology
Speaker 14: looks like or psychological safety. His vulnerability last night gave
Speaker 14: a ETAs into some of the off field stuff, but
Speaker 14: also the human aspect.
Speaker 5: Of what he's gone through.
Speaker 14: But for the big picture around the collective and about
Speaker 14: you know, the dynasty and maybe this is the year scenario.
Speaker 14: But a beautiful sense of you know, having the courage
Speaker 14: to talk about headspace. And you know, I only referred
Speaker 14: to Adisavier a couple of weeks ago when he's kissing
Speaker 14: Reuben Love on the cheek after a post match. You know,
Speaker 14: that's that's the sort of blokes you want other blokes
Speaker 14: to see. And the vulnerability was just yet brilliant.
Speaker 2: Chris, don't be a stranger, mate, you call back any time. Man,
Speaker 2: I've loved your thoughts. Good to hear from you. Oh
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty's our number, lyle, what
Speaker 2: did you make of it all? As a neutral to
Speaker 2: it all?
Speaker 15: Ah, mate, I think you if you remember correctly, I've
Speaker 15: told the numerous occasions that have Metcalfe put another go,
Speaker 15: he sures how won't let them down. I told all
Speaker 15: sundry yesterday that Metcalfe will be the player of the
Speaker 15: day for the Warriors. Well he probably wasn't quite glad.
Speaker 15: He probably shared it with a few others. But the
Speaker 15: how good in the achievements for sports wise or work
Speaker 15: wise right is really governed by the obstacles you had
Speaker 15: to overcome to achieve it. They've gone out there and
Speaker 15: for sixty five minutes they've kept the best side in
Speaker 15: the competition scoreless. I watched I watched them again this morning,
Speaker 15: and Mate, some of the mistakes that Penriths made were
Speaker 15: most Unpenris like, as Andrew Voss is with the hype purplier.
Speaker 15: But they made the mistakes because the Warriors just completely
Speaker 15: monster them. I said to him made them when I said,
Speaker 15: oh this sucks real impressive. Well, the next sixty five
Speaker 15: minutes were more impressive. And as for Clark, Clark, he's well,
Speaker 15: he's the ever ready battery, sorry, ever ready bunny with
Speaker 15: a tan and Leck of the wrecker, Well it is.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 15: I was definitely the best game I'll see them play
Speaker 15: this year, and one of the best games I've ever
Speaker 15: seen them play. They I was concerned at the ending
Speaker 15: for them though, when it's last pen with Troy it
Speaker 15: got just allowed.
Speaker 13: Lucky.
Speaker 15: I mean, the right decision was made. He was definitely offside,
Speaker 15: but you know, half a meter backs on side, and
Speaker 15: they were definitely tiring, but it made us they needed
Speaker 15: to make a statement. And well they didn't go through
Speaker 15: the front door. They crashed through it. Lequer the record,
Speaker 15: he didn't d W said his work rate were just
Speaker 15: taking it up, helping the forwards out.
Speaker 5: It's something real.
Speaker 15: They've got to leave Metcalf there because his kicking game,
Speaker 15: sorry's kicking game general, and goal kicking is definitely, you know,
Speaker 15: a superior of what's on offer. Now tain to a picky.
Speaker 15: I've set it to you a number of times. I
Speaker 15: don't think well, his future is at full Nick, he's
Speaker 15: too small. Metcalf's going next year, I'd be moving Taine
Speaker 15: into the harvest. It's got a good step, a tone
Speaker 15: of gaps, a good pass and you know you'd always
Speaker 15: stick them back at full back at a pinch and
Speaker 15: off injuries go south. But yeah, it's there's an incredibly
Speaker 15: impressive performance off this.
Speaker 2: Good on your law, good summary, mate, and yeah, no
Speaker 2: that might be the future. I've tained to Old Picky.
Speaker 2: It might be a bit further on. Good to hear
Speaker 2: from you, mate. Seventeen Away from One. Slag Griffin, assistant
Speaker 2: coach of the Warriors.
Speaker 1: After this from Gross Roots to the grand Stand and
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Speaker 16: All the Ways.
Speaker 2: Talks Warriors Assistant coach Slade Griffin with us. Thanks for
Speaker 2: your time, mate. How pleasing a night was that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously, like it was just a great night for
Speaker 5: the club, Like just really proud of the boys, really
Speaker 5: proud to be a part of the club. You know,
Speaker 5: Fish come to the club, wanted to come home and
Speaker 5: ever since he's he's been really proud about obviously his
Speaker 5: culture and we wanted to do something like that last
Speaker 5: year and boys just went ready. But they've practiced it
Speaker 5: and you know, they did the Hacker and it was
Speaker 5: just spine tingling scenes and I think that just obviously
Speaker 5: got them going. And yeah, look, the boys have trained
Speaker 5: really hard for a couple of years and built a
Speaker 5: game that we fell hold up in the big games,
Speaker 5: you know, that army source style of footy, and they
Speaker 5: got that on last night. And yeah, it was just
Speaker 5: a really good performance, like you said, against the minor
Speaker 5: premiers at the moment. So yeah, awesome night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pregame Hiker tamatoa man s fine shilling is right, man,
Speaker 2: it was amazing, even iman on television, it was amazing.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what it must have been like there.
Speaker 2: So James Fisher Harris was one of the drivers of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah he was, Yeah, and he was you know, some
Speaker 5: of the boys are a little bit nervous. They haven't
Speaker 5: done much of that in front of a big crowd
Speaker 5: like that, but he just gave them confidence. And really
Speaker 5: it was about representing obviously our country be a culture,
Speaker 5: even Pacifica and the Maldi boys. So yeah, it was
Speaker 5: just awesome and like our crowd just got right behind them.
Speaker 5: You know, it was one of the loudest crowds ever
Speaker 5: been part of. So just an awesome night electric, Yeah,
Speaker 5: certainly was.
Speaker 2: And then on the field, James Fisher Harris goes out
Speaker 2: there and has an absolute stormer. I mean, how influential
Speaker 2: is he in your playing group because we see him
Speaker 2: slat and this is no surprise to anybody. You know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't say a heck of a lot in media situations, right,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, he's pretty he's pretty low key,
Speaker 2: he's pretty understated. How influential is he within your group?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: There, he just has an aura about him. He obviously
Speaker 5: believes in the hard stuff, which has been very vital
Speaker 5: for us, and he leads that with his actions. But
Speaker 5: he doesn't speak a ton of training as well. But
Speaker 5: when he does speak, everyone listens, and yeah, he's obviously
Speaker 5: like he started really good. People hadn't even seen at
Speaker 5: the back end of the game when they were, you know,
Speaker 5: really coming home strong. He made a cover tackle after
Speaker 5: playing sixty minutes or something, so yeah, just so top
Speaker 5: of it. If it's instrumental for us.
Speaker 2: Luke Metcalf comes back into the side. Couldn't really have
Speaker 2: scripted a better return after such a long layoff in
Speaker 2: time out of the side. Were you expecting him to
Speaker 2: make that sort of impact straight away?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all know what he's capable of. I think
Speaker 5: it's also a credit to our forward pack like that,
Speaker 5: just laying such a good platform for us buying to playoff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he obviously had his time out of the
Speaker 5: team and has been confident the bit to get his moment,
Speaker 5: and he's been training really well ready for his moments.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we all know the class player he is.
Speaker 5: Obviously did it last year, so he's done his apprenticeship
Speaker 5: under Shawn Johnson as well, so he knows the club,
Speaker 5: he knows the system. So just really happy for him
Speaker 5: to get his moment coming back from that injury.
Speaker 2: And it seemed as though he didn't try to do
Speaker 2: too much. And I guess that could have been the temptation, right,
Speaker 2: you come back in after so long away, so right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to just take this game by
Speaker 2: the scruff of the neck and really take charge, which
Speaker 2: he did on occasion. But did you consciously speak to
Speaker 2: him or did the coaches consciously speak to him about
Speaker 2: not trying to do too much?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean on the defense coach, where he might
Speaker 5: have given him a little bit more of a clear
Speaker 5: game plan. But I think the whole year we're just
Speaker 5: so confident in our Ford pack and our style of play,
Speaker 5: you know, playing a long game, dragging him into the
Speaker 5: deep ends of the armory sow and then looking for
Speaker 5: the cues off that. So yeah, he brought him to
Speaker 5: the game plan and then he obviously added his what
Speaker 5: he can do on top of it. You know, he's
Speaker 5: such a good support player. Whenever he plays, he gets
Speaker 5: on the man he wants and can put people in
Speaker 5: the hole he wants. So yeah, his speeds not many
Speaker 5: people have it, and it's nice to get that. Plus
Speaker 5: is kicking game that was obviously really helped us put
Speaker 5: them in some cuff stocks.
Speaker 2: Leka, hello Seema. Man, he just keeps on producing moments
Speaker 2: that make people set up and take notice. But from
Speaker 2: your point of view, Slater and that defensive sense, you
Speaker 2: know he's playing in the centers, that's different.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Have you had to work with them on his defensive
Speaker 2: reads and such like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we just have a long story short. We
Speaker 5: practiced that defensive fundamentals a lot, so our forwards train
Speaker 5: like our backs with our defensive movement, so we want
Speaker 5: to be a really well moving team, and Leck is
Speaker 5: one of our best defensive players. So yeah, when he
Speaker 5: gets thrown out there, he's just such a confident kid.
Speaker 5: He's not scared of anything. He actually played sentence growing up,
Speaker 5: but it's obviously different at in our old level. But yeah,
Speaker 5: he's so sound and defensively that we all have confidence
Speaker 5: in throwing them out there with his reeds.
Speaker 2: The ten minute period where the Panthers sort of started
Speaker 2: to become the Anthers again desperate to get back in
Speaker 2: the game, we know that they've got that, and then
Speaker 2: they have come back from deficits of that sort before
Speaker 2: a couple of tries another one just allowed. What did
Speaker 2: you make of that segment of the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we just got a few things wrong on our
Speaker 5: right edge there, so we'll tide of that up this week.
Speaker 5: We're just a little bit disconnected, guys making reads outside
Speaker 5: of the system and they're not doing it together. So look,
Speaker 5: we had obviously wanted idea where Nathan was, because where
Speaker 5: he is, Jenny the bull is going to follow, and
Speaker 5: he really took the game by the scruff of the
Speaker 5: neck there. Thought in that here. We also didn't be
Speaker 5: ruthless enough, like we were giving them fast start to
Speaker 5: put a kicking down our left edge and Brian to
Speaker 5: who picks it up and runs forty meters and gets
Speaker 5: a fast start where we could have turned it over
Speaker 5: in the corner and they're probably kicking it from inside
Speaker 5: their forty So there's a few moments we kind of
Speaker 5: let them out of their end and then put a
Speaker 5: lot of pressure on our defense. But we've got to
Speaker 5: be able to handle that as well because he needs
Speaker 5: perfect But yeah, it just shows the quality of Nathan A.
Speaker 5: So the left like that you give them to, you know,
Speaker 5: to be you off and.
Speaker 2: Just to funis. So we're just looking at the table here.
Speaker 2: Panthers thirty six rooster, thirty six Warriors, thirty four. The
Speaker 2: Sharks will probably beat the Dragon, so they'll go to
Speaker 2: thirty four four games each left man. This is going
Speaker 2: to be a sprint down the home straight. How do
Speaker 2: you keep your heads?
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously you just got to worry week by week,
Speaker 5: even training session by training session. So the boys get
Speaker 5: three days off this weekend. We give them a little
Speaker 5: mini Buyers to freshen up again. The travel schedule has
Speaker 5: been really tough for them, so they'll come back in
Speaker 5: fresh and then yeah, obviously the goal is to get
Speaker 5: that top two because we'd love to play at home
Speaker 5: in front of our fans. I think they deserve it.
Speaker 5: So the boys be doing everything they can, but you'll
Speaker 5: literally have to take it week by week because every
Speaker 5: team's hard in this competition and they will deserve respect.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on last night's laid really special, special performance from
Speaker 2: the team. All the best as you hopefully get a
Speaker 2: bit of a break as well, and we'll look forward
Speaker 2: to seeing how the back end of the regular season
Speaker 2: plays out and beyond. Thanks for chatting as always, mate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, two kids at home so I'm on tours now,
Speaker 5: are going to work for it easier, but no, thank you,
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Slade. Back to the family. Slade Griffin on News Talks
Speaker 2: NB six and a half to one, coming up three
Speaker 2: to one. Okay, Warriors, Uh, we can kick that one off.
Speaker 2: That's done, done, all done. We'll talk a bit more
Speaker 2: about that, no doubt, maybe at some stage, but after
Speaker 2: the one o'clock news we move on on to the
Speaker 2: next As they say, all Blacks v. Stormers. That's our focus.
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Speaker 2: two go on text Piney can ask a favor. I'll
Speaker 2: be going to the wars same seat for fourteen years,
Speaker 2: sitting next to Warren who's been there for thirty one years.
Speaker 2: I heard last night that Warren's not too well, so
Speaker 2: I wanted to send him some love on the air.
Speaker 2: Bay five Rosie Seat eighteen. He's a legiand hoping he's
Speaker 2: back for the last couple of home games and beyond
Speaker 2: good on you Michael and Warren Bay five Rosie Seat
Speaker 2: eighteen for the last thirty one years. I hope you're
Speaker 2: improving if you're listening and you get back for the
Speaker 2: running and the very exciting final series to come. The
Speaker 2: All Blacks have opened Rugby's Greatest Rivalry Tour with a
Speaker 2: thirty eight twenty one win over the Stormers in Cape Town.
Speaker 17: Ta's down to your money's kick all Blacks after it
Speaker 17: stooped up Josh Morvey one handred back up in the
Speaker 17: left wing order. This guy's buss Josh Morby thirty three fourteen.
Speaker 2: It was fourteen all to sixty seven minutes, but four
Speaker 2: tries in the last thirteen minutes have inflated the scoreline.
Speaker 2: Or Blacks assistant coach Mike Blair is with us. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us, Mike, what's your overall assessment of game
Speaker 2: one of the tour.
Speaker 18: Nice to speak to you, obviously, we're really pleased to
Speaker 18: get the win. We played some good stuff in there
Speaker 18: and plenty to work on as well. The bit we
Speaker 18: loved about there was some real resilience in there. So
Speaker 18: we went down to thirteen men, still went in halftime
Speaker 18: at fourteen all, and we kept our composure and took
Speaker 18: our opportunities later on in the game. But we're frustrated
Speaker 18: a few of the missed opportunities as well that on
Speaker 18: other days we could have walked in but they didn't
Speaker 18: just quite click today.
Speaker 2: Did you always feel as though you had the gas
Speaker 2: in the tank to come over the top of them.
Speaker 2: At the end, it was still fourteen ll or thirteen
Speaker 2: minutes to go, a real flurry of tries at the end.
Speaker 2: Did you always feel as though you had that gas
Speaker 2: in the tank.
Speaker 18: I think we've got to understand that tea that it
Speaker 18: takes time to break teams down, and obviously we wouldn't
Speaker 18: want to leave it that late every week. But the
Speaker 18: fact that we did a lot of work, good work
Speaker 18: in the first half with our with our multi phase,
Speaker 18: stressed them a little bit, which meant that those opportunities
Speaker 18: were taken later on in the game, and we've got
Speaker 18: good athletes who can make the most of those opportunities.
Speaker 2: Did you get what you expected from the Stormers?
Speaker 18: Yeah, they were impressive, weren't they A number of excellent
Speaker 18: performances from them. Thought three was all over the place.
Speaker 18: I thought I thought that ten he was playing in
Speaker 18: one of his first pro games. I thought he looked
Speaker 18: composed and obviously their best set piece was a real threat.
Speaker 18: So yeah, they played a good game and a game
Speaker 18: that we expected them to to play. So some some
Speaker 18: positive stuff from us, but but definitely some some stuff
Speaker 18: to work on.
Speaker 2: I know it's not necessarily your area, Mike, but the
Speaker 2: SCRAMs were were really massy, especially in the first half.
Speaker 2: Any idea why that.
Speaker 18: Was, what makes you think I don't knowing about scrumbs unbelievable.
Speaker 19: I used to be I used to be a scrum half.
Speaker 2: Ill in that case. Then I'm looking forward to your assessment.
Speaker 18: Yeah, we we We've gone the wrong side the penalty kind.
Speaker 18: I think one of the really pleasing things though, was that,
Speaker 18: you know, the scrum in the last kind of three
Speaker 18: minutes of the game. We've got a young, young set
Speaker 18: of props on and we and we shunted Stormers off
Speaker 18: the ball, so that that's showed great resilience and they
Speaker 18: find a way obviously around the scrum. There is some
Speaker 18: some work to do there, but you know, we've got
Speaker 18: some great coaches who're going to do a good job
Speaker 18: with them.
Speaker 2: He mentioned before. A couple of work on areas and
Speaker 2: a bit of frustration around certain parts of the game.
Speaker 2: Anything in particular that you'll be that you'll be focusing
Speaker 2: on in the review.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think we created opportunities and we've just got
Speaker 18: to be really ruthless with those opportunities. And I think
Speaker 18: we've probably left three or four tries out there that
Speaker 18: on other days it's just you know, perform in the basics. Well,
Speaker 18: so you know, there's a bit of rustiness as well.
Speaker 18: The guys haven't played in a in a reasonable amount
Speaker 18: of time, so it'll be great that that they've got
Speaker 18: that game under their belts and well we'll see improvement
Speaker 18: going ahead.
Speaker 2: In the two I had three yellow cards shown to
Speaker 2: your ap plaiers. Any issue with any of those, Mike.
Speaker 18: I'm I'm not too sure, to be honest. I think
Speaker 18: we almost felt that we would rather have given away
Speaker 18: the the try on that the storm is more rather
Speaker 18: than getting the yellow card and another five liner to defend.
Speaker 18: I think you know, when you when you stay high
Speaker 18: and there's a bit of head contact, you're always bringing
Speaker 18: the TMO into it. And I think the last one
Speaker 18: with with Josh was was was touch and go. I
Speaker 18: can see why it was given, but it was you know,
Speaker 18: it was it could have gone either way, I think
Speaker 18: on that one how it was ruled. So no, no
Speaker 18: real issues with that. We've we've got to look after
Speaker 18: own stuff and we've got to be squeaky clean there
Speaker 18: and to not give the opportunity to penalize us.
Speaker 2: For that from now. Then. It's quite a unique challenge,
Speaker 2: isn't it for the coaching group, in terms of the
Speaker 2: fact that you now need to prepare an almost entirely
Speaker 2: different group of players for Poenix Challenge or what sort
Speaker 2: of challenge will that present to you.
Speaker 18: Yeah, things things speed up now for sure, and you
Speaker 18: know the work crate's going to be where the workload's
Speaker 18: going to be be high for the players and the
Speaker 18: coaches as well.
Speaker 13: So we just got to be really.
Speaker 18: Sharp around our reviews, our previews of what's coming. You know,
Speaker 18: we've got some excellent players, so their ability to pick
Speaker 18: up information and take that on and apply it should
Speaker 18: be really good. So it's a great challenge and the
Speaker 18: one we're really looking forward to taking on.
Speaker 2: I know that there was never any doubt, but today
Speaker 2: confirm that that this is going to be a heck
Speaker 2: of a tour.
Speaker 13: Absolutely it was.
Speaker 18: It was a brilliant atmosphere here, really competitive game, really
Speaker 18: physical game, and you know we've got another one coming
Speaker 18: up on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: My congrats on getting the first one on the board.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you taking the time for a chat. Awesome, thanks mate, No,
Speaker 2: thank you, Mike Mike Blair All Blacks attack coach out
Speaker 2: of Cape Town, where the All Blacks have kicked off
Speaker 2: the Greatest Rivalry Tour with the thirty eight twenty one
Speaker 2: went over the Stormers. Love your thoughts of you if
Speaker 2: you've seen the game, if you watched it live or
Speaker 2: gone up to watch your replay, if you've had a
Speaker 2: look at it and got some thoughts O eight hundred
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. It looked like a side that hadn't
Speaker 2: played together very often, containing several players who haven't played
Speaker 2: any rugby for a while, which, of course it was.
Speaker 2: It was good to get the win to start the
Speaker 2: tour off, even if it did need that late flurry
Speaker 2: of tries to get the All Blacks across the line.
Speaker 2: Good to give some guys some rugby, Good to add
Speaker 2: a couple more debutantes. But if there was any doubt
Speaker 2: about how tough this tour is going to be, and
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any doubt, but if there was,
Speaker 2: it was well and truly dispelled today and there is
Speaker 2: plenty to work on as the All Blacks now plot
Speaker 2: the rest of this tour, starting with the Sharks in
Speaker 2: Durban on Wednesday morning, Tuesday, night over. There areas of
Speaker 2: particular focus. I've got four main ones. Number one the
Speaker 2: aerial ball. It is still an area of concern for
Speaker 2: the All Blacks and one which will absolutely, without a
Speaker 2: doubt be targeted by the South African teams. Spring Box
Speaker 2: in particular. For whatever reason, we just can't seem to
Speaker 2: effectively and consistently diffuse aerial threats. And when a kick
Speaker 2: goes up and one of our players goes up to
Speaker 2: get it and doesn't, the rebound almost always seems to
Speaker 2: go to the opposition. So the battle and the air
Speaker 2: number one. Number two the scrum look, most of us
Speaker 2: don't have the depth of knowledge to know what goes
Speaker 2: on in there in minute detail. But they were a
Speaker 2: bit of a mess, weren't they. We were penalized a
Speaker 2: lot at scrum time, and the stumers showed plenty of power,
Speaker 2: which all of the South African teams will over the
Speaker 2: next six weeks, not least of all the spring Box.
Speaker 2: Number three more defense. The Stormers put pressure on from
Speaker 2: the lineouts close to the All Blacks line, the spring
Speaker 2: Box will do exactly the same, so giving away penalties
Speaker 2: which allow the opposition to kick for the line and
Speaker 2: set up for a driver, something that just can't be
Speaker 2: afforded by the All Blacks and number four discipline. Three
Speaker 2: yellow carts. I thought the first one was questionable. Actually
Speaker 2: Antoninat Brown makes contact as he goes into the tackle
Speaker 2: with the upper chest first and then it kind of
Speaker 2: slides up and makes contact with the head. Simon Parker
Speaker 2: Josh Moreby also spending time in the boin. Look, it's
Speaker 2: hard enough to win in South Africa with fifteen guys.
Speaker 2: You can't be going to add to fourteen for large
Speaker 2: periods or thirteen as was the case for a while
Speaker 2: in this one. And on the discipline side of things,
Speaker 2: sixteen penalties conceded, including five in a row in the
Speaker 2: second half. So as they depart Cape Town for Durban
Speaker 2: and the Sharks Wednesday morning out time, there is a
Speaker 2: bit to chew over, plenty of room for improvement. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: I firmly believe the capacity for that improvement is there
Speaker 2: and the side that runs out against the Sharks on
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning will be demonstrably different to what we saw
Speaker 2: this morning. A lot of cobwebs shaken off this morning,
Speaker 2: it felt to me by players, as I say, who
Speaker 2: haven't had a heck of a lot of rugby. You
Speaker 2: look at guys like Simon Parker, Bowden Barrett, they hadn't
Speaker 2: played it all in July. The last time those guys
Speaker 2: played was the back end of Super Rugby. Boden Barrett
Speaker 2: hasn't the game for a couple of months. Others in
Speaker 2: the same boat. Kyle Preston didn't get any rugby during July.
Speaker 2: He got out there. Josh Jacob on debut, ce Alilawakey
Speaker 2: on debut. Combinations in the loose forwards and in midfield
Speaker 2: that haven't been being used often, so there was always
Speaker 2: going to be a bit of clunkiness. What did you
Speaker 2: take from it? I eight hundred eighty ten eighty anything
Speaker 2: that you want to pick up on. It's good to
Speaker 2: get the first one out of the way. I think
Speaker 2: that is certainly a positive. It would be a lot
Speaker 2: worse if we were sitting here talking about an All
Speaker 2: Black's loss at fourteen or with thirteen minutes to go.
Speaker 2: That result was on the table. But they got good
Speaker 2: impact off their bench. I thought of suff One Mooor
Speaker 2: was great off the bench. I think Josh Jacob had
Speaker 2: a steady hand when he came on, and a couple
Speaker 2: of other players too. Peter Larkey want to mention Anton
Speaker 2: Lennart Brown. I thought it had a very good game.
Speaker 2: So the back end of the games, where the All
Speaker 2: Blacks traditionally do put the foot on the gas and
Speaker 2: run away from teams was an evidence again. I eight
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Speaker 2: One twenty three. That's at the phones. Peter, good afternoon, Hey,
Speaker 2: how you doing there, but very good things. Peter. What
Speaker 2: did you think this morning?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 20: Well, we hit a chat a few weeks ago and
Speaker 20: about how we might be looking to treat this whole tour.
Speaker 20: It's sort of like a dress rehearsal for a World Cup.
Speaker 2: I remember, yes, I remember that chat, Peter.
Speaker 20: And that game seemed very much like an opening game
Speaker 20: of a World Cup.
Speaker 2: Yes it did, Peter. You're you're beg on mate. It's
Speaker 2: like us playing against I don't know Italy or Remaining
Speaker 2: or Scotland lady or maybe on scholar, but something like that.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 2: It was one of those.
Speaker 20: Yeah, we weren't quite sure how it was all going
Speaker 20: to go. We're getting missed in new reps. It's a
Speaker 20: new squad, new tournament, and it sort of had that
Speaker 20: you know, we're feeling out the whole situation type vibe.
Speaker 9: And and yeah, he came away with the win.
Speaker 20: Got a few points at the end, and it was
Speaker 20: just like, Okay, we got this one in the back
Speaker 20: on this one that really felt like that. It's like
Speaker 20: that first game with the World Cup was like, oh,
Speaker 20: we got the wedding, but yeah, we've got a few
Speaker 20: news out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all need to look at this
Speaker 2: tour through your filter. Peter, I think you've actually landed
Speaker 2: on a really, really good way of negotiating this tour. Look,
Speaker 2: you know, in three or four weeks things might be
Speaker 2: a bit more serious, mate, But no, that's not a
Speaker 2: bad way of looking at it.
Speaker 20: Yeah, so I mean absolutely, I think I think there's
Speaker 20: some learnings to be had. I think there are some
Speaker 20: players that needed a little bit of game time that
Speaker 20: hadn't had them for a while. There were players who
Speaker 20: I think probably will be disappointed in their own performance.
Speaker 20: I think Voden Bear it's going to be one of them.
Speaker 19: But all in all, I.
Speaker 20: Still think the coaches are learning what their new toy
Speaker 20: can do. And I think by the end of it,
Speaker 20: we might be looking.
Speaker 21: At and going, well, you all and all not too bad?
Speaker 2: Love it, Peter, Love it mate. Let's chat throughout this
Speaker 2: and and inverted Comma's World Cup that we're on. Let's
Speaker 2: keep on charting the progress. Make good to hear from
Speaker 2: you again. Call back soon, jed.
Speaker 22: Hi, I hope the first time quarterback. I'm going to
Speaker 22: make a quick brief. I just wanted to touch on congression.
Speaker 9: Yeah, great result.
Speaker 22: Last night, but I just wanted an observation and it
Speaker 22: sort of brings in another part of the game. So
Speaker 22: I watched both games last night, the big games as
Speaker 22: the Warriors the Panthers, and then we jumped onto the
Speaker 22: Stormers All Blacks. What observation I saw is when I
Speaker 22: was watching the Warriors game, how I couldn't go. I said, Wow,
Speaker 22: this is just flowing. It's going from end to end
Speaker 22: and it was kind of acilerated. It was very few
Speaker 22: of a few stoppages. And when the All Black started
Speaker 22: with the Stormers in the first two minutes, I said, Oh,
Speaker 22: we're in for HALLI a fight here, and it's going
Speaker 22: to be awesome because of the speed. And then to me,
Speaker 22: it never became the All Blacks versus Stormers show. It
Speaker 22: became the referee versus Tmo versus referee show. And I'm
Speaker 22: just hoping that wild Ruggy as a whole can see
Speaker 22: what it's doing to that whole frustration, the slowing down,
Speaker 22: that that sort of thing doesn't make a good spectacle.
Speaker 2: Jed's a it's a very salient point. And having those
Speaker 2: two games so close together, you know what, mate, I
Speaker 2: thought exactly the same thing. In fact, I went back
Speaker 2: and I checked how long the first half took, like
Speaker 2: a first this is in the Rugby this morning first
Speaker 2: half forty minutes, right, this morning's first half ended fifty
Speaker 2: one minutes after it started. So that tells you just
Speaker 2: how much the TMO, the referee stoppages, all that sort
Speaker 2: of thing were there. And yeah, I mean there's no
Speaker 2: you know, there's there is a comparison to me made
Speaker 2: like you. I like both both sports, but RUDG, you
Speaker 2: just need to be a little bit careful, don't they.
Speaker 2: You know, we can't have fifty one minute halves and
Speaker 2: the TMO coming in and looking at the screen for
Speaker 2: sort of a minute or two at a time when
Speaker 2: there's no action on the field.
Speaker 22: Can we totally?
Speaker 9: Totally?
Speaker 22: And yeah, I just sometimes I feel like, you know
Speaker 22: what we are. We got this right, will Rugby got
Speaker 22: this right. The refie got this right because as a
Speaker 22: spectacle you know, yeah, it was talking cheese between the
Speaker 22: two of them last night. The first ten minutes, Hey,
Speaker 22: unbelievable for a brilliant game, and then it just changed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I was. I was watching that first
Speaker 2: ten minutes and Tokayahu got the try and Rattam was
Speaker 2: quick to the ruck and they were running it and
Speaker 2: they were being very optimistic, in the words of Dave
Speaker 2: Anny and then yeah that was and I thought, this
Speaker 2: is going to be fantastic. This is going to be
Speaker 2: an absolute, you know, absolute barn stormer. But you're right,
Speaker 2: it just sort of yeah, the referee got involved, and
Speaker 2: I don't like to blame them necessarily, but yeah, there
Speaker 2: was a lot of interference.
Speaker 22: But yeah, all right, that's all I wanted to say,
Speaker 22: Thank you very much.
Speaker 15: Enjoy your show.
Speaker 2: No good on your Jed called anytime, mate, now that
Speaker 2: you've got your debut out of the way, A good
Speaker 2: day boo as well, good solid showing from you, Jed.
Speaker 2: You got the number now, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 2: Good to hear from you.
Speaker 9: Hello, Jamie, great Jason. Yeah, the last cause just spill on.
Speaker 9: I mean, just the amount of stubbleges from the TMO.
Speaker 9: It's compared to the league last night. Although we could
Speaker 9: have done with that fourth pass that would have been handy,
Speaker 9: but last night, yeah, you're right, yeah, but but yes,
Speaker 9: but totally it's yeahs sort of yeah, what can be
Speaker 9: a great game to Wat's but you know, getting games
Speaker 9: like this morning it's yeah, just yeah, frustrating with TMO,
Speaker 9: I mean pulling up, you know, especially after a try
Speaker 9: scored and then you rub it out and then get
Speaker 9: yellow card. But but yeah, also yeah those yeah, those
Speaker 9: those four points you made just before the air break. Yeah,
Speaker 9: spot on. And we need, I mean, we all want
Speaker 9: to see an exciting up timbo game from the Allbacks.
Speaker 9: But those those four four issues you brought up, I
Speaker 9: can better bite us in recent years, and we need
Speaker 9: to really you know, get you know, you know, improve
Speaker 9: and improven all of them pretty much. The high border, discipline,
Speaker 9: the set piece. Yeah, it's it's you know, it needs
Speaker 9: we need if we do to come close to being
Speaker 9: in the spring Box upheel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we'll all agree, Jamie. If we
Speaker 2: play like that for the rest of the two, the
Speaker 2: spring Box will beat us. But I don't think we
Speaker 2: will play like that for the rest of this two.
Speaker 2: It was the first game, Like I said, a lot
Speaker 2: of guys hadn't played rugby for a while. It was
Speaker 2: a good opportunity to blow out some cobwebs. And look,
Speaker 2: there'll be major changes for the next game against the Sharks,
Speaker 2: as as Dave Ronie's you know kind of almost telegraphed
Speaker 2: he's going to run out of shadow test fifteen on
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. So if you and I having the same
Speaker 2: conversation on Wednesday morning, which we won't be because I'm
Speaker 2: not in the radio, but if we were and the
Speaker 2: same same things had happened again that happened today, then
Speaker 2: I think would be it would have more of a
Speaker 2: front road brow But yeah, let's wait to see what
Speaker 2: happens on Wednesday. But you know it's yeah, one and done.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get better, Jamie. That's a that's a
Speaker 2: great summary. I'm sure will get better, and I have
Speaker 2: trust in this coaching group that they will. Thanks for calling. Mate.
Speaker 2: Point made on text are rusty, performance fining, but enough
Speaker 2: glimpses for me to have confidence in this coaching group.
Speaker 2: Get rid of the TMO. It's the final bit of
Speaker 2: that text. Hey, gee, and I.
Speaker 23: Agree with you with the TMOS. They had a lot
Speaker 23: of a lot of influence on that game. I think
Speaker 23: they should be gone. I don't like them. I mean
Speaker 23: in any game you know all back seeing you know
Speaker 23: meyor you go the TMO sports sports, the game you
Speaker 23: know I used to you know, I used to referee myself,
Speaker 23: and I rather do it on my own without having
Speaker 23: all that support around, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 23: good to have them, but in the other day, you
Speaker 23: hear them in your ear all the time. It sort
Speaker 23: of gets annoying. So I just shut off. I used
Speaker 23: to shut off sometimes and just do it my own way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Richie, I I sort of. I think most people
Speaker 2: would would gladly go back to the good old days
Speaker 2: where the bloke on the field or whoever it was
Speaker 2: on the field, makes the decision and they're going to
Speaker 2: get some wrong. We're all human, but we live with
Speaker 2: it and we move on.
Speaker 22: You know.
Speaker 2: It's the same in a lot of sports them, mate,
Speaker 2: I mean, var and football has has been the catalyst
Speaker 2: for the same sorts of conversations. But this morning it
Speaker 2: just seems like, I don't know, I mean, the Storm's
Speaker 2: got that try and then was converted and we're almost
Speaker 2: back for kickoff, and the tmo's in there saying this
Speaker 2: has happened, and then Simon Parker gets a yellow cards
Speaker 2: they go back down to zero. Then they got another
Speaker 2: rolling mall. It was almost an identical try that they got,
Speaker 2: and the All Blacks were down to fourteen. It just
Speaker 2: seems like an overreach, you know.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I think they
Speaker 23: just get rid of them. Try it on, just just
Speaker 23: try it, you know, without a TMO, because yeah, Riffrey's
Speaker 23: going to make a wish who make you make cause?
Speaker 23: And it's not right for everybody. But end of the day,
Speaker 23: in the middle of the man in the middle should
Speaker 23: be controlling the game, not the TMO.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you'll get an argument from many people, Richie.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling through, mate, and eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: ten eighty for the first time, I think in the
Speaker 2: ninety minutes we've been on the air. There's a spare
Speaker 2: line if you want to chat about the All Blacks.
Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you. Eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: ten eighty anything get picked up on. I've picked out
Speaker 2: a couple of things which I presume will be work on,
Speaker 2: so I don't think there's any rocket signs in them.
Speaker 2: The aerial game, the you know, the the mall defense.
Speaker 2: That's a really tricky part of the game. Jason Ryan,
Speaker 2: I think is the main guy who looks after this
Speaker 2: sort of thing. But you know, if a Ford pack
Speaker 2: like the stormers can can achieve what they did this
Speaker 2: morning from a line out drive, then absolutely the other
Speaker 2: teams that the All Blacks play will be able to
Speaker 2: and the spring box will be able to. So we
Speaker 2: simply cannot afford to give away penalties in an area
Speaker 2: sort of in and around half way for example, where
Speaker 2: they can kick for the line or even further in
Speaker 2: you know, kickable penalties which they turned down and say no,
Speaker 2: we're going to kick for the line instead. You know,
Speaker 2: teams have got very good at it. So moll defense
Speaker 2: is clearly going to have to be a bit of
Speaker 2: a work on for the All Blacks, and you know that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was before they jumped on the plane today.
Speaker 2: We'll just confirm a few things for them. The scrums
Speaker 2: were just a bit messy went there, and I'm not
Speaker 2: sure and again I thought maybe the maybe there was
Speaker 2: a bit of pedantry from the referees as well. He
Speaker 2: just didn't seem to just didn't seem to like our
Speaker 2: scrum very much. The sort of trendy phrases. You've got
Speaker 2: to show the officials the right pictures, whatever that means.
Speaker 2: But clearly we weren't showing him the right pictures. For
Speaker 2: parts of today. Zach, I mate, yeah, look good, Zach. Good.
Speaker 2: Did you watch the game?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 15: I don't enough to watch it.
Speaker 2: Yep, what do you think?
Speaker 11: All really starting to show signs on the style that
Speaker 11: Dave wants to play. But that's a bit of concerns
Speaker 11: around the TMOS. You know, that first forty minutes was
Speaker 11: you know, it's fifty two minutes to play, like he
Speaker 11: has a lot of animof.
Speaker 2: It's hard to know what the what the players can
Speaker 2: do about today, you know, I mean they can't really
Speaker 2: do a heck of a lot about that. If the
Speaker 2: TMO wants to get involved and takes it upon himself
Speaker 2: to get involved, I'm not sure what the players and
Speaker 2: the coaches can really do about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just got to go to the.
Speaker 11: Word rugby and I guess to review the rules and yeah,
Speaker 11: like they wanted to speed the game up, and like
Speaker 11: look at Super Rugby less time than the TMO, and
Speaker 11: game has been stetter. But looking at the international like, yeah,
Speaker 11: that's a nine for a fan point of view. You know,
Speaker 11: when the Storm has scored that first try and we
Speaker 11: went back and start Park got that yellow card, like
Speaker 11: they already converted the try and Yeah.
Speaker 2: Great comparisons, AC and good point as well, because all
Speaker 2: of these All Black players have played Super Rugby and
Speaker 2: have been used to, you know, the way that the
Speaker 2: game is officiated in Super Rugby, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: now it's different because we're at international level. They've always
Speaker 2: had to adjust. But it's a good point. And yeah,
Speaker 2: and the fan experience in Super Rugby was improved immeasurably
Speaker 2: when they took the TMO interference out of it, when
Speaker 2: they limited the amounts of TMO interference. It's a good point, Zach.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling Steve. Hello Steve, Jason, how are you doing.
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 24: Love your workers always, mate. Hey, really, the look the
Speaker 24: TMO is going to be part of the game. We
Speaker 24: can't really do much about it. But what I wanted
Speaker 24: to say Jason is I can't remember the last time
Speaker 24: the All Blacks played a test that we haven't had
Speaker 24: someone with a yellow card. It just seems to be
Speaker 24: game after game after game after game. And it's as
Speaker 24: I said, the TMO is it's just you just have
Speaker 24: to play the game. But we just seem to be
Speaker 24: getting ourselves into situations. We were always getting a player
Speaker 24: off the field.
Speaker 5: I mean, how good.
Speaker 24: Can any All Black side or any team be that
Speaker 24: they can get through a game without having someone in
Speaker 24: the bin?
Speaker 2: Jason, Yes, Steve, you're right, and not just one today
Speaker 2: three two of them overlapping, so for a while they're
Speaker 2: playing rugby league with only three team out there.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and you can you can argue as
Speaker 2: much as you like. That was a bit softer. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that one was for. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the anton Lett Brown one was was
Speaker 2: was totally one hundred percent justified, but it's a yellow card,
Speaker 2: so you make adjustments. But yeah, it's hard enough to
Speaker 2: beat these blokes with fifteen.
Speaker 24: Yeah, and we just seem to be it's always, you
Speaker 24: know that the the higher tackle or you know, getting
Speaker 24: on the other side of the ruck and you know,
Speaker 24: getting ourselves off side and just constant penalty penalty, penalty
Speaker 24: penalty for the same thing, and then we're on a
Speaker 24: warning and then it doesn't matter what the infringement is.
Speaker 24: The next guy's off and I mean, we're just not adjusting.
Speaker 24: And I just don't see how, you know, as I say,
Speaker 24: I mean, I just can't remember the last All Black
Speaker 24: tests we We've played a full game with fifteen players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get I'll get my team of researchers to
Speaker 2: go back and check Steve. But yeah, we seem to
Speaker 2: have had a few guys on that plastic chair on
Speaker 2: halfway over the last little while. Let's hope that it
Speaker 2: doesn't come back to bite us in the in the
Speaker 2: weeks ahead. Good to hear from your Steve. Thanks for
Speaker 2: calling in, Marius. Marius, you must be quaking in your
Speaker 2: boats about the All Blacks coming to take that series
Speaker 2: in South Africa.
Speaker 21: I indeed, yeah, yeah, get up in piney, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 21: I think it was. I was fortunate enough to be
Speaker 21: at the at thest match last night and and what
Speaker 21: a spectacle by the bother was and I think it
Speaker 21: was again just watching the Stormers matches morning again, what
Speaker 21: a loads of all? What are the callers have said
Speaker 21: that the contrast between the flow of the match, which
Speaker 21: I think rugby is really careful. I've only been in
Speaker 21: this country for three years and prior to moving in
Speaker 21: and anything my rugby league and it's amazing. I fought
Speaker 21: fall in love with it because of the entertainment, because
Speaker 21: of the spectacle, because of the flow and and the
Speaker 21: quick decision making by the f and I suppose last
Speaker 21: night there were a lot of decisions which which were
Speaker 21: which were doubtful. But I suppose the man in the
Speaker 21: middle has got the whistle. He just made it all,
Speaker 21: which which I think the game cety needs. I think
Speaker 21: I think with regards to the all Blacks in in
Speaker 21: so Africa, I think I think credit needs to also
Speaker 21: be given to the Stormers.
Speaker 8: I think they did play well.
Speaker 21: To think you A lot of their stream box are
Speaker 21: taken out.
Speaker 8: The back end and they are on the either on
Speaker 8: their way to Argent, you know, agent either for.
Speaker 21: Tomorrow morning's match, or on the awaiting the door Blacks.
Speaker 21: So I think I think there was a lot of
Speaker 21: a lot of a lot of good plases from that perspective,
Speaker 21: and and and again, like you're Alner said, you know,
Speaker 21: it was almost like a World Cup opening match against
Speaker 21: the minnow team, which I think brings out a different
Speaker 21: kind of emotion and different kind of nervousness. Because the
Speaker 21: Stormers had nothing to lose and and they were they
Speaker 21: were first, they had a bit of a poetic license
Speaker 21: to do, to pre creative.
Speaker 8: It was a bit disappointing. I feel that the fact
Speaker 8: that following those yellow cards. They can get creative when
Speaker 8: they had the overlaps, given the space and the speed
Speaker 8: I've gotten outside. But again I think comes I'm just
Speaker 8: frosting at at the at the l Black match in
Speaker 8: the in two weeks time, I think it's going to
Speaker 8: be one out of a technical.
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, Marius. And I've the more sort of
Speaker 2: watching the All Blacks, you know, sort of settle in
Speaker 2: and cape down over the last week and watching the
Speaker 2: footage come back, and you know, getting ready for the
Speaker 2: the entrees like the game this morning and the in
Speaker 2: the next couple I think the test matches are just
Speaker 2: going to be epic, mate, aren't they. They're just going
Speaker 2: to be magnificent contests. And and look, I'm sure, as
Speaker 2: you know I said, I'm sure Rassi Erasmus isn't quaking
Speaker 2: in his boots at what he saw this morning. But
Speaker 2: with a couple of weeks over there and some some
Speaker 2: some little tweaks, I just think it's going to be
Speaker 2: a terrific series.
Speaker 5: Oh sad.
Speaker 21: And I can tell you that any Springbok supporter that
Speaker 21: seems I can underestimate an All Black team has got
Speaker 21: something come up with them, you know. The respect between
Speaker 21: the two nations amens, and I think the All Blacks
Speaker 21: have got a point to prove and I think that
Speaker 21: it makes it makes it dangerous, and I think that's
Speaker 21: what wild rag Me needs. And ending the spring books
Speaker 21: can be get me too comfortable. I'm a di dioce
Speaker 21: and a dollar string work support, huh.
Speaker 8: But but yeah, I think now the day for anything
Speaker 8: in the mix, just the style of rugby is positive.
Speaker 8: The boys are throwing the ball around. There's some new
Speaker 8: some new tenants coming through, which which yeah, I think
Speaker 8: it's gonna it's gonna be a massive spectacle and pretty jealous.
Speaker 8: I'm not over there because I think it's it's gonna
Speaker 8: be amazing.
Speaker 2: See busy time coming up for you might You've got
Speaker 2: to watch these rugby tastes and then the back end
Speaker 2: of the Warriors season into the finals as well, Hey
Speaker 2: are you gonna get your work done?
Speaker 21: Oh night living the dream one night so unfortunately early
Speaker 21: in the morning and fortunate after a nine year old boy.
Speaker 8: Playing out of Gas Coast Bays. That's just as passion
Speaker 8: as me. So any kind of rugby living the dream.
Speaker 21: So but yeah, I think we fortunate. We can supports
Speaker 21: many few teams in this country and great and a
Speaker 21: great supports long mad love because I feel I feel
Speaker 21: that this country needs a bit of positivity.
Speaker 8: With regard to rugby union. Just looking at the junior
Speaker 8: junior at the junior club lub level and the numbers.
Speaker 2: Very well, Sarrius. Yeah, not a different topic, Mike. We
Speaker 2: can chat about that another day, Drives Safe. Good to
Speaker 2: hear from you. Thanks for calling in, Anthony high good Bonny.
Speaker 15: Hey, you know, just just about the game this morning.
Speaker 15: I was just thinking that the All Blacks with this.
Speaker 25: High temple game that they want to play in saying
Speaker 25: that that that the team, of course will be a
Speaker 25: little bit different, but I just hope that they realized
Speaker 25: that they have to earn that right. You know, to
Speaker 25: play that high temple, you need to be upfront, you
Speaker 25: need to be on at least at power over the
Speaker 25: spring box or at least if you can have a
Speaker 25: little bit of ascendency. But playing that higher, that higher
Speaker 25: tame game, it's pretty risky. I mean, the rewards is spectacular,
Speaker 25: but it is still very very risky.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and especially in the learning stages. I think
Speaker 2: in July we saw, you know, a team getting used
Speaker 2: to doing it, and the execution wasn't quite there. And look,
Speaker 2: they've still got a couple of games to get there.
Speaker 2: But you're so right, Anthony. It's it's high risk, high reward,
Speaker 2: isn't it? And where is the balance to be struck
Speaker 2: when you play that straight?
Speaker 9: Correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 25: And and the thing is is that I just hope
Speaker 25: that that Dave and the team can just sort of
Speaker 25: like initially, you know, like especially that first forty fifty minutes,
Speaker 25: just make sure that they actually matched the spring Rocks
Speaker 25: as far as as the forwards goes, because if there's
Speaker 25: no I mean there's no parody in the in the forwards,
Speaker 25: there's no way that we can pete it high high
Speaker 25: tempo game.
Speaker 2: I have no argument, Anthony, none at all. I am
Speaker 2: in passionate agreement with you, mate, absolutely, And look, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there that they feel the same way.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, they do want to play this
Speaker 2: high tempo style, this optimistic style, get it wide, find
Speaker 2: the spaces, that sort of thing. But you're did right, mate,
Speaker 2: You simply cannot do that without a platform established up front.
Speaker 2: And well, they say it all starts up front. I
Speaker 2: think it's always been the way.
Speaker 15: That's the way it goes planing.
Speaker 2: That's the way you might have a good one, you too, Anthony.
Speaker 2: Great to to you mate. Seventeen away from two. We'll
Speaker 2: take a break, come back, get across the tears Ofman
Speaker 2: Australian Correspondent Adam Peacock.
Speaker 1: After this here one matters in sports. We can sport
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Speaker 2: our regular catch up with Australian correspondent to Adam Peacock.
Speaker 2: Up in but cold over here, mate, what's your weather
Speaker 2: been like?
Speaker 16: Fresh As Australians, we're not useful people live in Sydney anyway.
Speaker 16: Not used to walking around Saint paula Bear's walk down
Speaker 16: the street.
Speaker 8: But there was a couple this week.
Speaker 9: Love it.
Speaker 2: Let's talk some sport. The Wallabies into the lez kiss era.
Speaker 2: He is now head coach of the Australian rugby side.
Speaker 2: They take on Japan but later on tonight. That's a
Speaker 2: bit of a soft landing, isn't it. They should be okay,
Speaker 2: there should be.
Speaker 5: Could be probably will be.
Speaker 13: So you can sense that.
Speaker 16: I'm not totally certain. Over there we're talking about it
Speaker 16: is going to be disgustingly humid and hot, So I
Speaker 16: don't think we're in for a free running spectacle.
Speaker 9: I think there's going to be a bit of spilled pill.
Speaker 16: But given the humidity and in contact, ball going to
Speaker 16: be flying out and everything. So yeah, Australia just need
Speaker 16: to put down a really aggressive performance. Eddie Jones is
Speaker 16: Japan's coach, of course, talking to a couple of journals
Speaker 16: are over there, they are a bit let down by
Speaker 16: the fact that Eddie did his press conference via zoom,
Speaker 16: not face to face, which was a bit unusual. So
Speaker 16: there was there's no combative Eddie, just a little barb
Speaker 16: to say Australia should win really all the pressures on them,
Speaker 16: So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: He never fails to he never fails to chuck a
Speaker 2: little barb. And as you say, so Australia coming off
Speaker 2: the back of what in July, the narrow lost to Ireland,
Speaker 2: the lost of France and then the big win over Italy.
Speaker 2: So what sort of tame as les kiss and hereting
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 16: Yeah, pretty much, Joe Schmitz and not much is going
Speaker 16: to change. I don't think Eddie actually said it himself.
Speaker 16: He goes, well, Les and Joe cut from the similar cloth.
Speaker 16: I'd say it so I couldn't imagine too much stylistically changing.
Speaker 6: Look.
Speaker 26: Cohesion is the big one.
Speaker 16: For the waller, but he's like our outside five pretty
Speaker 16: much been the same. But the nine and the ten
Speaker 16: that just can't get cohesion there. But you know that's
Speaker 16: pretty crucial. But that's linking everyone together. But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 16: I think you'll a fair judgment after this suite of
Speaker 16: tests coming before the end of season tour. I think
Speaker 16: some good different opponents to be taken on, you know,
Speaker 16: Japan here, New Zealand's Arega Argentina will know a fair bit.
Speaker 16: I just hope there's I just hope let's kiss at
Speaker 16: the start gets a free run on it, and he
Speaker 16: doesn't have to go through thirty five players for instance,
Speaker 16: to start test matches by the end of the year,
Speaker 16: because then we're left with a bit of a mystery. Still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, let's go to the NRL Big Friday Night
Speaker 2: over here, the Warriors beat the Panthers. We've been talking
Speaker 2: at length about that on the show today. The Roosters
Speaker 2: needed to come from what eighteen eight down to eventually
Speaker 2: get up over the top of the Bulldogs. Man, this
Speaker 2: top four races heating up, isn't it all.
Speaker 16: Of a sudden? Yeah, Penrith have just cooled a bit.
Speaker 16: And the big one I think could be borderline premiership
Speaker 16: defining to Penrith is how bad Isaeo has looked like
Speaker 16: he ripped his peck from what we've learnt over the
Speaker 16: years about this particular injury. That's end of season straight away,
Speaker 16: So I hope not because he is such a good player.
Speaker 16: But Penrith still they wouldn't go away towards the end there.
Speaker 16: This is how good they are, even without Isao being
Speaker 16: down by twenty two whatever it was twenty four score
Speaker 16: those two late ones, have another one disallowed, you think,
Speaker 16: and if that one's not disallowed.
Speaker 8: It's going on very much so.
Speaker 16: But big win for the Wars and they're very much
Speaker 16: in the premiership consideration now everything is compressed. Rooster's had
Speaker 16: a really good win, as you mentioned, over the Dogs
Speaker 16: when they were looking like they were in all.
Speaker 8: Sorts of bother.
Speaker 16: Wasn't overly convincing, but still it was a good performance
Speaker 16: and the Sharks won't go away either. So yeah, there's
Speaker 16: four or five teams now that can legitimately look at it.
Speaker 8: And go we can win this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's what makes it such a great campus, isn't it.
Speaker 2: You know, you just don't know, do you. And there
Speaker 2: are going to be teams who make the top two,
Speaker 2: the top four, the top eight, or miss out on
Speaker 2: the top eight by the by the bareest of margins,
Speaker 2: by a win here or there, even by points deaf.
Speaker 2: It's a great campus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 16: We look at the top four of last year and
Speaker 16: we thought, well, they're going to be there, probably not
Speaker 16: going to make the final of last year, so it's
Speaker 16: been flipped on as had a bit.
Speaker 8: Penrith have got their act together in the first.
Speaker 16: Half of the season. They jump out to this enormous
Speaker 16: lead and we think, well they're playing who in the
Speaker 16: Grand Final. But now it's all changed when they come
Speaker 16: back to the pack through and they can reset.
Speaker 9: And go again.
Speaker 7: They're that good.
Speaker 8: But man, this run into the finals is going to
Speaker 8: be superb.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. And a but a Football News sister
Speaker 2: finish are we mcbill who was part of the soccer
Speaker 2: use set up. I think it was at the World Cup. Recently,
Speaker 2: he's spent the last decade also maybe even more playing overseas.
Speaker 2: He's coming back home to play for Melbourne City in
Speaker 2: the upcoming A League season.
Speaker 16: Yeah, he's a great story in life, continues brought up
Speaker 16: in a refugee camp in Africa and finds home in
Speaker 16: Australia and Adelaide and gets going there and bounced around
Speaker 16: a bit, but had some great life experiences and you know,
Speaker 16: I've got to playing some damn big occasions in club
Speaker 16: football overseas. He's back and tell you what point, He's
Speaker 16: the type of not only player, the person the A
Speaker 16: League needs right now in terms of being able to
Speaker 16: get out there and tell people about it because he's
Speaker 16: such a wonderful human being. He's one of the nicest
Speaker 16: kids I've ever met in sport, full stop. He speaks
Speaker 16: about his passions so well, which is very much football
Speaker 16: and very much what he does outside of football, which
Speaker 16: is looking up for people less advantaged than him or
Speaker 16: looking for a way through in life. So man, it's
Speaker 16: a really good sorry for the A League and man,
Speaker 16: if they've got a marketing budget, they should be chucking
Speaker 16: a few dollars his way and getting him out there
Speaker 16: in the community to tell people about the A League.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to having him back on the side of
Speaker 2: the world. All it's great chatting Australian sport with you, Adam.
Speaker 2: Enjoy your rest of your weekend mate, We'll do it
Speaker 2: again next Saturday.
Speaker 8: Sounds good.
Speaker 16: Thanks finding no, thank.
Speaker 2: You, Adam. Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent here on Weekend
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Speaker 2: NFL is underway the annual Hall of Fame match the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, leaving it to the last possession to take
Speaker 2: home the win. Oh much, We're back.
Speaker 4: We have a chance.
Speaker 26: Game on the line.
Speaker 2: Kim, He's gonna stand up.
Speaker 1: Lights He yes, a less.
Speaker 2: Jean the Vinyl score thirty three thirty to the Panthers
Speaker 2: over the Arizona Cardinals. A bit close to the home
Speaker 2: in the NPC, White couple too good for their neighbors
Speaker 2: from the Naki.
Speaker 27: Advantage to White cuts off just inches away, Akachima. He
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Speaker 27: inside and scoring.
Speaker 2: Monk nighttil County. He gets a double tonight the Mulu Man,
Speaker 2: holding off the late search to win thirty eight thirty two.
Speaker 2: And the NRL. We know all about the Warriors. The Roosters.
Speaker 2: Meantime had to do it the hard way against the Bulldogs.
Speaker 2: Now it's the stud of stepping walker, kissing it back
Speaker 2: to the middle. All James up, that's a nightmare. He comes,
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Speaker 26: Saturn start.
Speaker 16: Lot, you're fools up to still its through the rosters,
Speaker 16: back to back tries.
Speaker 19: I don't retract the warning.
Speaker 2: Overcoming an eighteen eight deficit to win twenty points to
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Speaker 22: Cashier crushes the Von two.
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Speaker 2: Matchroom Sport chairman Eddie Hearn has promoted some of the
Speaker 2: sport's biggest stars and biggest events, and he's bringing another
Speaker 2: major card to Australia on Wednesday night, headlined by unbeaten
Speaker 2: Australian born heavyweight Teddy Mowana. Teddy Mowana against very dangerous
Speaker 2: American DeAndre Savage. This is all happening on the Gold
Speaker 2: Coast on Wednesday night. You can watch it here in
Speaker 2: New Zealand on de Zone. He thanks for joining us
Speaker 2: across New Zealand. You've described Teeddy Mowana Teddy Mowana as
Speaker 2: the future of the heavyweight division. That is quite the statement.
Speaker 2: What is it about him that makes you so convinced
Speaker 2: that he can become a world champion?
Speaker 28: Well, I think whenever you look at a young fighter
Speaker 28: coming through, you look at kind of their amateur.
Speaker 26: Career, the path.
Speaker 28: Historically any talented fighters that would have a very illustrious
Speaker 28: amateur career, which he did. He was an Olympian, I mean,
Speaker 28: lost a very close fight to the Olympic gold medalist.
Speaker 28: But I think it's the attributes that he has. I mean, firstly,
Speaker 28: this guy is. I mean, I'm six foot five and
Speaker 28: one hundred and ten kilos. I look up at this
Speaker 28: guy makes me feel like, you know, a speck on
Speaker 28: the ground. He is an absolute monster of a man,
Speaker 28: six foot eight, one hundred and twenty four kilos. But
Speaker 28: it's the boxing attributes that he has. He has tremendous footwork,
Speaker 28: he has great speed. I think he's the biggest puncher.
Speaker 26: In the division.
Speaker 28: But he also has this abundance of personality and character.
Speaker 28: You know, this long Samson like hair, you know, the
Speaker 28: hacker in the ring after the fire. I mean like,
Speaker 28: I literally think that Australia really has the absolute gem
Speaker 28: of the heavyweight division in their hands. And you know,
Speaker 28: Wednesday has his first big test, first headline fight, you know,
Speaker 28: against American DeAndre Savage.
Speaker 26: You're saying all the right things, He's talking a great game.
Speaker 28: He's been the distance with some very good, you know,
Speaker 28: world fringe world heavyweights as well. But the problem is
Speaker 28: when you get hit by this man, I don't think
Speaker 28: it matters who you are. I think it's a massive problem.
Speaker 28: And yeah, looking forward to a great night next Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sol, So we tell him one is eleven and
Speaker 2: oer with eleven knockouts, but DeAndre Savage has also won
Speaker 2: eleven of his twelve fights by knockouts. So is this
Speaker 2: the type of fight that is going to tell you
Speaker 2: whether Titamawana is a genuine contender.
Speaker 26: I think something.
Speaker 28: Look, there's still many levels to go beyond Savage to
Speaker 28: the world heavyweight title. But the problem is with Taramuana
Speaker 28: is although he's had eleven fights now, I think ten
Speaker 28: of those have been in the first round knockouts, so
Speaker 28: like he's not really I think I think the second
Speaker 28: round is is long as long as he's been, so
Speaker 28: you know, you want to make sure that when they
Speaker 28: take that big leap, they've got the experience. But as
Speaker 28: I said to you, the problem is because of our
Speaker 28: hard he punches, it's so hard for these guys.
Speaker 26: To get through the first and second round.
Speaker 28: And Savage is a big, big puncher, so they're going
Speaker 28: to go there's going to be a shootout, you know,
Speaker 28: and really historically shootouts only go two, three, four rounds,
Speaker 28: and I don't see this being much difference. I think
Speaker 28: both guys are going to meet in the middle of
Speaker 28: the ring. You know that everybody's dangerous. These guys, you've
Speaker 28: got massive knockout, you know records Tarawana Savage, even the
Speaker 28: guy fighting Michael's Raffor in the home main event, He's
Speaker 28: got twenty five knockouts in twenty six wins. So these
Speaker 28: guys are all very dangerous, and I hope that Savage
Speaker 28: can hang in there and give us some rounds.
Speaker 26: But it's a frightening, frightening proposition.
Speaker 2: As you say, idiot, you know there are a lot
Speaker 2: of steps for tell him or wanted to, you know,
Speaker 2: to become a world champion. Would you at some point
Speaker 2: like to see him test it over eight, nine, ten rounds?
Speaker 28: Love to you just don't know when that's going to come,
Speaker 28: you know, and at what level you might be in
Speaker 28: a position where that could be a fight for the
Speaker 28: world heavyweight title. And that's that's the danger when you're
Speaker 28: bringing someone through is you know they look great, they're
Speaker 28: you know, they're knocking all these people out. What are
Speaker 28: they like when they get into the trenches in the fifth, sixth,
Speaker 28: seventh round. I know I'd know that Temana's got the
Speaker 28: goods because I've seen him in those kind of fights
Speaker 28: in the amateurs. But the hard thing is is you
Speaker 28: know you really would like that test before you get there,
Speaker 28: you know, before you're in the World Heavyweight Championship fights.
Speaker 28: And you know, it's been so difficult to find an
Speaker 28: opponent for him from Australia.
Speaker 26: You know, like all of the Australian.
Speaker 28: Champions, all these guys we're offering and fortunes and they're
Speaker 28: just saying, not for me, thank you very much. And
Speaker 28: you know we'll probably have to step up eventually on
Speaker 28: that side of the world to a Hemia Hero, to
Speaker 28: a justin Justice honey, to a Joseph Parker. You know,
Speaker 28: they're the fights that I think will come in twenty
Speaker 28: twenty seven. And by the way, there'll be blockbuster knights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to to Joseph Parker's return. Want to
Speaker 2: chat about that with you in a moment. But the
Speaker 2: heavyweight division on the whole in he feels healthier and
Speaker 2: more even than it has for years. So who is
Speaker 2: the fighter everybody has to beat right now?
Speaker 26: Yeah?
Speaker 28: It was quite I mean I always like to see
Speaker 28: one guy ruling because I think the fans always want
Speaker 28: to know who's the best, and that was Alexander Usik
Speaker 28: unquestionably for a long period of time. And as he
Speaker 28: approaches the back end of his career and relinquishes his belts.
Speaker 28: I think he's really exciting, you know. I mean, you've
Speaker 28: got a whole host of champions now, obviously in Daniel
Speaker 28: Dubois who's been a champion before, Agic Caabiel, who's you know,
Speaker 28: he's been given the title, but he's had some great wins,
Speaker 28: Murat Gasiev who's kind of been given the title as well.
Speaker 28: So the other two a bit questionable out of the
Speaker 28: champions at the moment. And then you've got Moses Talma
Speaker 28: coming up fighting Philip Perkovic on the Zone for the
Speaker 28: IBF title as well. Now, a Towner's an incredible talent,
Speaker 28: you know. I actually think that a Talma against Tara
Speaker 28: Mowana is going to be the fight probably for all
Speaker 28: the belts in the next twelve to eighteen months. But Moses,
Speaker 28: as good as he is, has never actually fought a
Speaker 28: real world class heavyweight, and he does that against Philip Pergovitch.
Speaker 28: That's a great fight, great test, and the winner of
Speaker 28: that's going to be world champion as well. So I
Speaker 28: like the division at the moment because you know, everybody's
Speaker 28: going to be fighting everybody and we're going to find
Speaker 28: out again who's the best. And you know, I think
Speaker 28: Moses Mosestaalma is definitely.
Speaker 26: One one to watch. I think we're going to find
Speaker 26: out how good he really is soon. But I think
Speaker 26: he is really good.
Speaker 28: And like I said, I think him and Tea Moana
Speaker 28: are kind of the two young guys coming through Justice Finny.
Speaker 26: I think he's a great fighter.
Speaker 28: You know Joseph as well, you know, I think I
Speaker 28: know he lost to to Fabio Wardley, but I think
Speaker 28: he's a guy that's going to come on as well
Speaker 28: and be involved in big fights.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's talk about Joseph Parker here in
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Obviously there's a lot of interest in him.
Speaker 2: Does he remain a genuine player in today's heavyweight landscape?
Speaker 28: Yeah, I mean whenever you get beat and obviously you
Speaker 28: know coming through what he came through, and I'm so
Speaker 28: pleased that that's over for him, because Joseph, he's really
Speaker 28: one of the good guys.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 28: I know that sometimes maybe his preparation hasn't been what
Speaker 28: it should be in the early parts of his career,
Speaker 28: but I think he's been extremely focused of late, and
Speaker 28: I think he's only one win away from fighting for
Speaker 28: the world heavyweight title.
Speaker 26: I think a lot of those guys.
Speaker 28: You know, he's not looking to be I guess in
Speaker 28: warm up fights or stay busy fights. He wants the
Speaker 28: biggest fight out there that he can make. And if
Speaker 28: you win a fight like that, then you're going to
Speaker 28: be right up there. Again, he's got the ability to
Speaker 28: do it, he's got the experience to do it. So yeah,
Speaker 28: I would say for sure Joseph's a contender, just probably
Speaker 28: needs one solid win and then he'll be looking for
Speaker 28: a shot at the world title as well. You know,
Speaker 28: the downside is so with about another twelve people, because
Speaker 28: right now everybody's in play to try and win a championship.
Speaker 2: Well, Joseph park has promoted. David Hagen says obviously floated
Speaker 2: with the idea of Parker against Teli Mooana. If that happened,
Speaker 2: that's the kind of trans Tasman blockbuster heavyweight boxing fight
Speaker 2: we haven't really seen before. Is that the sort of
Speaker 2: event that could fill up an Eden Park or some
Speaker 2: Corpse stadium or something like that.
Speaker 26: Yeah.
Speaker 28: Again, you know when I said about that step up,
Speaker 28: that's the danger step up for Tara Mohanna. Someone like
Speaker 28: Parker who's durable experience, and that's a I mean, I
Speaker 28: wouldn't put Tara Miyana in with Parker next.
Speaker 26: I think he can be.
Speaker 28: But Joe is very good, very experienced, and you want
Speaker 28: to get that one right. So that's probably sort of
Speaker 28: three four fights away for Taranjuana. But next summer, you know,
Speaker 28: this time next year, that could be a blockbuster event
Speaker 28: and Joe will fight anyway.
Speaker 26: Joe. You know, Joe's up for fighting anyone. He doesn't mind.
Speaker 28: He wants the big moments, the big money, the big opportunities. So, like,
Speaker 28: our job with Taranjana is to make him a household name,
Speaker 28: and like I said, he's got all the attributes to
Speaker 28: do that, not just in the ring, but out of
Speaker 28: the ring. So yeah, Wednesday Night's a big step for
Speaker 28: him headlining on Fox and designed for the first time.
Speaker 2: You continue to bring events down to this part of
Speaker 2: the world, down to Australia, and Wednesday Night is the
Speaker 2: latest example of that. Idiot, what have you seen in
Speaker 2: this part of the world that makes it an attractive
Speaker 2: destination for you?
Speaker 28: Well, I think, just from a sports perspective, I think
Speaker 28: you guys are very similar to us. Really, I mean,
Speaker 28: I think You're a market that's easy to understand because
Speaker 28: you're just like Britch. You know, you like good entertainment,
Speaker 28: you like a beer, you like great sport. You're like
Speaker 28: a good punch up, you know, if that's on the
Speaker 28: rugby field or you know, in the ring. Darts for
Speaker 28: us has been extremely successful both in Australia and New Zealand.
Speaker 28: You know, have big PDC events there as well. So
Speaker 28: and you have very very good talented fighters. You know,
Speaker 28: you have a whole host of world class fighters across
Speaker 28: many different divisions, male and female. So, you know, for
Speaker 28: us being the only real global promotional company in the world,
Speaker 28: it's a market that we have to be in. And
Speaker 28: getting that domestic deal with Fox and obviously our global
Speaker 28: position with the Zone, you know.
Speaker 26: A really interesting opportunity.
Speaker 28: Seven shows a year we'll be doing in Australia, hopefully
Speaker 28: that will include a New Zealand one as well at
Speaker 28: some point. And you know, I've worked with David Higgins
Speaker 28: for over a decade really and I love working with
Speaker 28: those guys, and you know, I'm sure you'll see us
Speaker 28: over there as well as Australia many times in the future.
Speaker 2: Well look forward to that. You've been doing this a while, lady,
Speaker 2: You've promoted some of the biggest names and biggest nights
Speaker 2: and boxing. Do you still get a buzz when you
Speaker 2: discover someone like Tilimuana before the rest of the world
Speaker 2: really knows.
Speaker 9: Who he is.
Speaker 28: That's why I'm getting on a plane for twenty four
Speaker 28: hours tomorrow to go and see him and be part
Speaker 28: of the journey. You know, I get very excited when,
Speaker 28: especially when you get a young fighter who is chasing
Speaker 28: their dreams. And you know, in all sports, once you
Speaker 28: get up to the top levels, it becomes quite political,
Speaker 28: it becomes extremely money motivated. You know, you get people
Speaker 28: joining the team out of nowhere making poor decisions.
Speaker 26: So these are the moments of the journey.
Speaker 28: You've got to really enjoy it, you know, the ones
Speaker 28: that you can change people's life in the process and
Speaker 28: people can turn around to you and also say thank
Speaker 28: you for the opportunity, which is nice, and you know,
Speaker 28: we're all building together. Tamuan has got the same training
Speaker 28: team that he's always had, you know that he's had
Speaker 28: throughout the amateurs. This for them as well, is a
Speaker 28: life changing opportunity. This is an opportunity for them to
Speaker 28: be in the biggest fights and biggest moments in the sport.
Speaker 28: And I just feel that because it's the flagship division.
Speaker 28: If he was the guy that could go on and
Speaker 28: bring World Heavyweight Championship fights to Australia, that's the kind
Speaker 28: of person and moments that could change the sport forever
Speaker 28: and make it a mainstream sport, which I think it
Speaker 28: has the potential to be in your part of the world.
Speaker 28: Like I think, if you can get the talent, if
Speaker 28: people can buy into the fact that we are bringing
Speaker 28: big fights to the region, I think you can make
Speaker 28: box in a mainstream sport.
Speaker 26: And if you can, it'll be very exciting.
Speaker 2: Just to finish. If we're sitting here having a conversation
Speaker 2: in five years from now, and I hope we are,
Speaker 2: what do you think, well we're saying about Teddy Mowana.
Speaker 2: Teddy Mowana, I.
Speaker 28: Think in five years from now, hopefully the guys who
Speaker 28: talk about the belts, hopefully he's got every one of them,
Speaker 28: you know, and we can make Australia and the region
Speaker 28: and you know, whether that's Cook Islands that he dreams
Speaker 28: are fighting in one day as well, hopefully we can
Speaker 28: make that the epicenter of heavy wait boxing, because if
Speaker 28: you've got the champion and he's got all the belts,
Speaker 28: of course he'll be fighting internationally. But you'll have the
Speaker 28: opportunity with the government support that you have in that
Speaker 28: region as well, to bring big sporting events there to
Speaker 28: be filling stadiums on a regular basis. And you know,
Speaker 28: just just tuning next book, you'll see an incredible heavyweight
Speaker 28: but you'll see a wonderful personality that won't you know,
Speaker 28: you can't stop smiling when you're listening to this guy,
Speaker 28: when you're watching this guy. But the only person who
Speaker 28: won't be smiling next week week will be DeAndre Savage.
Speaker 28: He'll be you know, he definitely won't be smiling.
Speaker 2: It'd be great to catch up looking forward to Wednesday
Speaker 2: night with the latest event that you're and behind. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you joining us across New Zealand this afternoon. Thanks
Speaker 2: for having me, Thanks for joining us. Eddie hearn there,
Speaker 2: the one and only, the unmistakable voice of Eddie Hernman.
Speaker 2: He's been involved in so many big, big events. The
Speaker 2: next one Wednesday Night, the Star Gold Coast as his
Speaker 2: man Telly Mowana. Telly Mowana goes up again a hard
Speaker 2: punching American DeAndre Savage. You can watch it here in
Speaker 2: New Zealand on Dezonne two twenty three. Just updating you
Speaker 2: on the rugby. Auckland have just scored a try against
Speaker 2: Wellington at Western Springs. Wellington had taken the lead earlier,
Speaker 2: So five or kick to come for Auckland. Duplastikadifi playing
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Speaker 2: I look up at the screen, he's involved in a
Speaker 2: ruck of some sort, or a more or not a
Speaker 2: more of a ruck, so I think he's probably just
Speaker 2: enjoying the opportunity to try something different. But yeah, Auckland five,
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Speaker 2: The Wellington Phoenix have made one of the biggest signings
Speaker 2: in the club's history, bringing home one of New Zealand
Speaker 2: football's true greats. Abby Erseg has spent the past two
Speaker 2: decades building an outstanding Korea for club and country. She
Speaker 2: represented New Zealand at four Women's World Cups and four
Speaker 2: Olympic Games. Is one of the football Firm's most capped
Speaker 2: players and has enjoyed tremendous success in professional football in
Speaker 2: the United States, Germany, Australia and most recently Mexico. Along
Speaker 2: the way, she captained many championship winning teams in the
Speaker 2: highly competitive National Women's Soccer League in the United States
Speaker 2: and established herself as one of the game's most expected defenders.
Speaker 2: Before she gets to Wellington, though, she'll play for the
Speaker 2: Auckland FC Invitational women's side against Chelsea at Eden Park
Speaker 2: this afternoon from four but ABUC has taken time out
Speaker 2: of that preparation mode to join us. Abby thanks for
Speaker 2: your time. You've played professionally all over the world. So
Speaker 2: why was now the right time to come home and
Speaker 2: to join Wellington Phoenix.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 29: I think obviously, I'm getting towards the end of my
Speaker 29: career and I've said that I've always wanted to come
Speaker 29: back to New Zealand and give back to the game
Speaker 29: and give back to the girls that are still involved.
Speaker 29: I've you know, I've got a lot of opportunity from
Speaker 29: playing football and I think it's only fair that I
Speaker 29: try and.
Speaker 25: Give those opportunities to other girls as well.
Speaker 29: There's so much to be had in the women's game
Speaker 29: at the moment, so you know, if we can get
Speaker 29: as much of those girls out and experiencing that, I'd
Speaker 29: be really grateful if I could help.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Is out there doing that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How impressed have you been with the vision Beef Priestman
Speaker 2: and the Phoenix have laid out and what they're looking
Speaker 2: to do at that club.
Speaker 29: Yeah, I've gone down and seen the facilities and I've
Speaker 29: had a short conversation with dev. I haven't had too
Speaker 29: much interaction yet, but I've worked with thev previously, so
Speaker 29: I kind of know where a standard set and how
Speaker 29: she works and how she operates and how she gets
Speaker 29: a team to function. And then obviously hearing about all
Speaker 29: the results with the Phoenix overseas has just been incredible
Speaker 29: because you never expected a New Zealand team to do
Speaker 29: so well in the A League sort of early on
Speaker 29: in their involvement. So I was really impressed with her
Speaker 29: and I think, you know, having a couple of conversations
Speaker 29: and kind of learning where she wants the team to
Speaker 29: go and the vision that she has for the New
Speaker 29: Zealand football, it aligns with me. So I think, you know,
Speaker 29: that's the right place in the interview at the moment.
Speaker 2: She said during her media regarding the signing that she
Speaker 2: really wants to add winners to the squad, and obviously
Speaker 2: you fit into that category when you've won championships. What
Speaker 2: separates good teams from title winning teams.
Speaker 29: I think the preparation. Honestly, I think a lot of
Speaker 29: the talk in New Zealand is about mindset and about culture.
Speaker 29: Those things are great, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 29: there is a level of execution that you need to
Speaker 29: have and I think we missed that sometimes in New Zeane,
Speaker 29: you know, you have to be at that level to
Speaker 29: be able to compete, and then the mindset comes in
Speaker 29: when you're on that's kind of same level playing because
Speaker 29: as everybody else, you can't just will your way into
Speaker 29: winning a game. Which I think we need to learn
Speaker 29: in New Zealan footballer is that you can't just be like,
Speaker 29: if we believe we're going to win, you know, No,
Speaker 29: you have to have the technical ability and then the
Speaker 29: belief will get you kind of over the line. When
Speaker 29: you're on a part with.
Speaker 2: Those teams, is that something that you think you can
Speaker 2: impart too. I was going to say the younger members
Speaker 2: of this Phoenix side, but to any member of the
Speaker 2: Phoenix side, is that part of the knowledge that that
Speaker 2: you are really keen to pass on?
Speaker 10: I think so.
Speaker 29: I think there are a lot of little things that
Speaker 29: are really going to help. Obviously, my exposure to those environments.
Speaker 29: You know, I was there for a long long time,
Speaker 29: so and I learned a lot. I happen to be
Speaker 29: in just one of the teams that you know, it
Speaker 29: was so good and it was just it's kind of
Speaker 29: one of those lifetime things where you're just extremely lucky
Speaker 29: to fall into the right place at the right time,
Speaker 29: because not every athlete gets to be a part of
Speaker 29: those kind of environments. So I was extremely, extremely lucky
Speaker 29: to have that group, and it taught me so much.
Speaker 29: And I would just love, love to give as much
Speaker 29: about information as I possibly can to the delfare.
Speaker 2: You talk about giving back and your answer there, you've
Speaker 2: talked about helping others, But what about you, Abby? Are
Speaker 2: you still driven for success? I mean, i'd imagine you
Speaker 2: wouldn't come to any club that didn't have aspirations. Are
Speaker 2: you still deeply ambitious about your football?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 29: I understand that's in my DNA. I'm not going to
Speaker 29: go anywhere and not want to win at all. That's
Speaker 29: written in my DNA for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: What do you think still needs to happen for this
Speaker 2: country to consistently produce female players who are able to
Speaker 2: do what you did to play in the top leagues
Speaker 2: in the world and the States and in Europe, you know, anywhere. Really,
Speaker 2: what still has to happen for us to consistently produce
Speaker 2: those players?
Speaker 29: I think more investment. You can kind of see the
Speaker 29: investment that there's been all around the world and you
Speaker 29: can see the games growing, you can see the crowds,
Speaker 29: you can see just kind of the quality of the
Speaker 29: football that's being developed in Europe and in America and England.
Speaker 29: I think there has to be more investment. You know,
Speaker 29: you can't just keep sending players overseas all the time
Speaker 29: and hoping that in the game is going to grow
Speaker 29: in New Zealand. You have to start developing those players here.
Speaker 29: So that's investment and the players and the resources and
Speaker 29: the coaches, et cetera, et cetera, the fields.
Speaker 5: You know, in any kind of area that.
Speaker 13: You can invest, you need to.
Speaker 29: You know, even coming back playing on some of the
Speaker 29: surfaces here, they're just not at the level that you
Speaker 29: need to be. So you know, now you're trying to
Speaker 29: adjust your technique and you know, it just makes everything
Speaker 29: more difficult when it doesn't need to be. So I
Speaker 29: think just investment is just kind of the overarching scene.
Speaker 2: Your one of your hallmarks, one of your many is,
Speaker 2: is just your endless drive for you know, for doing
Speaker 2: as much as you can off the field to perform
Speaker 2: as well as you can on it. You know, just
Speaker 2: in terms of the way you look after yourself, what
Speaker 2: you wait, how you train, all of that sort of stuff, recovery.
Speaker 2: Where does that drive come from?
Speaker 29: I think it was I was really driven to a
Speaker 29: point kind of around twenty twenty four where I just
Speaker 29: wasn't sure I wanted to play football anymore, honestly, and
Speaker 29: I thought about giving it up, and I kind of
Speaker 29: knew that I wasn't the best athlete that I could be,
Speaker 29: and I kind of made the decision that, like, if
Speaker 29: I'm going to give this up, I don't want to
Speaker 29: make sure that I've done absolutely everything that I can
Speaker 29: before I say no. So I wanted to make sure
Speaker 29: I was as sad as I could be, I was
Speaker 29: as strong as I could be, as fast as I
Speaker 29: could be. So the athlete in me was was one
Speaker 29: hundred percent everything that I could have given. And then
Speaker 29: you know, obviously being lack enough to get into a
Speaker 29: team that could develop me technically as well. You know,
Speaker 29: can I now be the best athlete technically? Can I
Speaker 29: have the best touch? Can I have the best data?
Speaker 29: So I think it was from a place of desperation, honestly,
Speaker 29: and then it kind of worked out, and yeah, we are.
Speaker 5: We are today.
Speaker 2: What leads you to the place in twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: where you started to wonder whether you might have done
Speaker 2: your day.
Speaker 29: Honestly, it was just some bad luck at some of
Speaker 29: the clubs that I've had. You know, I've had a
Speaker 29: bit of a stint with the national team. We really
Speaker 29: weren't successful. I had a stint with a coach where
Speaker 29: he was a bit of abuse, and I just got
Speaker 29: to the point where I was like, you know, this
Speaker 29: isn't This isn't kind of the life that I want
Speaker 29: to myself. I don't want to be working for abusive coaches.
Speaker 29: I don't want to be putting everything I can into
Speaker 29: a game and training as much as I do to lose.
Speaker 29: You know that there's no wedding that it's not. I
Speaker 29: was sick of doing out for pride. Honestly, I wanted
Speaker 29: to have some kind of results for all of my
Speaker 29: hard work and that. Yeah, it was kind of at
Speaker 29: that point for a couple of years, right, just I'm
Speaker 29: not sure this is something that I want to do
Speaker 29: for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you made the decision to carry on.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? You've still got quite a bit of
Speaker 2: good football lift, in't you.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 22: I do.
Speaker 29: My body's actually really, really good considering my age. You know,
Speaker 29: I think it helps to be in the position that
Speaker 29: I'm in. I can center back have a little bit
Speaker 29: more of a longer career than you know, a striker
Speaker 29: and outside back. I'm so un fortunate that I'm in
Speaker 29: the right condition to do that, but I've looked after
Speaker 29: my body. I've been really fortunate with injuries there and
Speaker 29: have a lot of injuries, so that's that's been really
Speaker 29: good for me as well.
Speaker 2: All right, and before you even get the chance to
Speaker 2: come to Wellington, you've got the small matter of the
Speaker 2: Aukland FC Invitational game against Chelsea. Much you're looking forward
Speaker 2: to that, Yeah.
Speaker 29: It's going to be a big challenge. I mean, I
Speaker 29: always love playing against the top teams and having them
Speaker 29: come over to New gandre is at this point once
Speaker 29: in a lifetime. So it's gonna be really good for
Speaker 29: the girls to see the level that the woman's game
Speaker 29: has grown to and you know, kind of see the
Speaker 29: expectation that's required to go overseason play. So I'm really excited.
Speaker 29: I know it's going to be a really hard game.
Speaker 29: I'm going to have to really grind out a result
Speaker 29: against them, but as always, it's super exciting to play
Speaker 29: against the best players in the world.
Speaker 2: Has it been challenging coming together as a group of
Speaker 2: players who haven't really had too much to do with
Speaker 2: each other previously.
Speaker 29: Yeah, honestly, it's been one of the hardest things ever
Speaker 29: because you know, I know the quality that we're about
Speaker 29: to go up against, and I know what they're capable of,
Speaker 29: and they haven't I mean, they bought their best teams.
Speaker 29: They haven't kind of bought us second string team that's
Speaker 29: got the best players yet. So it's going to be
Speaker 29: a hard game for us. And you know, you're going
Speaker 29: into a camp for a week with players that you
Speaker 29: don't know their names and you've ever played with them before,
Speaker 29: or they're seventeen and you know they still haven't played
Speaker 29: professionally yet. Like that's a that's a tough ask for
Speaker 29: a group to, you know, go out and try and
Speaker 29: grind out this result. But at the same time, it's fun,
Speaker 29: Like how fast have we been able to do that?
Speaker 29: I think the girls have really jold and come together
Speaker 29: understanding that the task that we have is quite big.
Speaker 29: So there's been no drama. It's just been everybody who's
Speaker 29: put their head down and got into our AA really
Speaker 29: haven't joyed it outstanding.
Speaker 2: We're just to finish then. If we're chatting in twelve
Speaker 2: months from now looking back on your first season in
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix colors, what do you hope we're talking about?
Speaker 29: Oh trophy obviously, been the first New Zealand team to
Speaker 29: win a trophy in that league would be amazing, as
Speaker 29: I've always wanted to swin in that league because it's
Speaker 29: so close to home and I think if we can
Speaker 29: do that with a team from New Zealand's that's incredible.
Speaker 29: That's a step in the right direction for me.
Speaker 2: All the best against Chelsea. A great piece of business
Speaker 2: by Wellington Phoenix coun't wait to have you in the capital.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the chat this afternoon.
Speaker 13: Though, thank you appreciate it so much.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining us Abby. Thanks indeed, Abo sig
Speaker 2: brand new Wellington Phoenix signing and part of the Aukland
Speaker 2: the FC Invitational side who are taking Chelsea on this
Speaker 2: afternoon from four o'clock at Eden Park. We'll get inside
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Speaker 2: get you inside the Chelsea women's camp. Chelsea and Matilda's
Speaker 2: fullback Ellie Carpenter is with us. Ellie, Welcome to New Zealand.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the chat. What are the big objectives for
Speaker 2: the squad over these two matches, one here and then
Speaker 2: one in Australia next week ahead of the new Super
Speaker 2: League season which starts next month.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think for us for quite early into preseason.
Speaker 30: This is almost the start of our preseason over here
Speaker 30: in New Zealand and Australia. So for us, it's about
Speaker 30: building the team together. We have a lot of fresh faces,
Speaker 30: new signings, you know, kind of through a rebuilding phase
Speaker 30: I guess of Chelsea. So yeah, just creating those relationships
Speaker 30: on the pitch, but also you know, playing great football
Speaker 30: and attacking football as well, exciting football. So hopefully we
Speaker 30: can achieve our goals over these two games. And yeah,
Speaker 30: really excited to be here in Auckland.
Speaker 2: This is your second year at Chelsea, Eli, after such
Speaker 2: an incredible successful time with Leon, you won so many
Speaker 2: trophies over there. How quickly did you sit on into
Speaker 2: life in London and at one of the biggest clubs
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think my transition was quite smooth.
Speaker 30: I would say it was much easier going to an
Speaker 30: English speaking country than a foreign language country.
Speaker 19: And I would say I know the coach from Chelsea.
Speaker 30: I was coached by her and Leon, so I think
Speaker 30: that helped a lot with the transition, and yeah, the
Speaker 30: girls obviously were really nice fitting in and I think
Speaker 30: for myself coming into a new league as well, it
Speaker 30: was quite difficult. It was a very different to France,
Speaker 30: the French League. But I think I've adapted quite quickly
Speaker 30: and you know, a lot to learn quickly, a lot
Speaker 30: to improve on. And I think I really, you know,
Speaker 30: grew as a footballer just already in my first year
Speaker 30: at Chelsea, so I'm really looking forward to this second
Speaker 30: year at Chelsea.
Speaker 2: I mentioned your coach there, so on your bomb pasta
Speaker 2: she was your coach at Lyon before you signed at Chelsea,
Speaker 2: where she had gone. How much did that existing relationship
Speaker 2: influence will move to Chelsea and what sort of coaches.
Speaker 19: She Yeah, I think she was, you know, part of
Speaker 19: the reason why I did want to come to Chelsea. Obviously.
Speaker 19: I know that she has the belief in me, and
Speaker 19: you know.
Speaker 30: We were very successful together in Leon, winning the Champions
Speaker 30: League and the league and a lot of trophies, so
Speaker 30: I think I know her expectations and the way.
Speaker 19: She likes to coach.
Speaker 30: And you know, she was a former player as well,
Speaker 30: international French international and also you know a legend from
Speaker 30: Leon so knows what it takes to win and creates
Speaker 30: that winning mentality environment.
Speaker 19: So yeah, I think it was a no brainer to
Speaker 19: move to Chelsea.
Speaker 30: To be coach under her again and also in a
Speaker 30: new league in England, which I think, you know, the
Speaker 30: WSL is probably the strongest league for women's football at
Speaker 30: the moment, so I wanted to put myself into that environment.
Speaker 2: And inside of the environment, Chelsea obviously is one of
Speaker 2: the really top top clubs act with world class players
Speaker 2: yourself included of course Ellie. How much does that competitive
Speaker 2: environment day to day help to to really drive internal standards.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it's massive.
Speaker 30: I think if you have a competitive environment training and
Speaker 30: in the club, it only pushes everyone and everyone's fighting
Speaker 30: for us. Well, in the starting eleven we have you know,
Speaker 30: world class players and every position, maybe two players in
Speaker 30: every position, So for us it's you know, every training
Speaker 30: is competitive and you know everyone knows we're fighting to
Speaker 30: start or you know, fighting to get out position, and
Speaker 30: I think that only makes you better as a footballer
Speaker 30: and also you know a person as well, I guess, but.
Speaker 19: You know, creating the environment only helps the team win
Speaker 19: and to be out the best.
Speaker 2: You mentioned winning the Champions League with Leon with Chelsea
Speaker 2: last season the quarter finals, so you know they're or thereabouts.
Speaker 2: Is conquering Europe with Chelsea something that drives the group.
Speaker 30: Yeah, that's for sure one thing that's driving everyone. They
Speaker 30: obviously haven't won Champion League for and you know objective
Speaker 30: of the team is to win that title. And you
Speaker 30: know it's no easy feat obviously, and you know we
Speaker 30: are building towards that. Obviously last year feeling last year
Speaker 30: falling short. But this season, hopefully we can you know,
Speaker 30: start the season strong and to you know, build into
Speaker 30: the Champions League. And you know, obviously that's on everyone's
Speaker 30: mind as well. But I think this season we're going
Speaker 30: to take a game by game and you know, we'll see,
Speaker 30: but that's definitely a goal and something that we want
Speaker 30: to achieve as the club.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about your international career,
Speaker 2: your debut for the Missiles. At just fifteen years of age,
Speaker 2: you've already passed the century mark in terms of appearances.
Speaker 2: How exciting has it been to be part of this
Speaker 2: generation of Matilda's that is inspiring so many young girls
Speaker 2: everywhere to take up the game.
Speaker 30: Yeah, I just like said it before and an interview
Speaker 30: as well. I just feel like really grateful to be
Speaker 30: a part of this era in women's football. I think,
Speaker 30: you know, since that World Cup and obviously since my
Speaker 30: journey with the Matildas as well, I saw how much
Speaker 30: so much change over the ten years I've been in
Speaker 30: the squad, and I think it's amazing what we've done
Speaker 30: on this side of the world of football.
Speaker 19: You know, the man investment.
Speaker 30: Obviously there still can be more investment, but you know,
Speaker 30: every time we come home, we have sold out crowds,
Speaker 30: and you know, I think that's that was unheard of
Speaker 30: before the World Cup, So that really changed, you know,
Speaker 30: the way people look at women's football, and I think
Speaker 30: that was such a game changing moment. But I think
Speaker 30: now we have to continue to build on that and
Speaker 30: not let that just be that one off time and.
Speaker 19: To keep continuing and building on the legacy.
Speaker 2: I do just want to ask you about one moment
Speaker 2: from that twenty twenty three Football World Cup, that penalty
Speaker 2: shootout when over France and the quarters. I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be forever iconic. Where does that night sit
Speaker 2: among all your other football nights.
Speaker 30: Yeah, that was quite a crazy night. I would have
Speaker 30: to say, I'm still like thinking of that now.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 30: Honestly, I think it has to be up there with
Speaker 30: one of the top moments of my career, just like
Speaker 30: the feeling that you got after that game and when
Speaker 30: my penalty hit the net, I was quite relieved. But
Speaker 30: I think as a team, as a nation, I think
Speaker 30: you know, that was the defining moment and what everything changed.
Speaker 19: So for sure it was, you know, top to top
Speaker 19: three moment in my career so far.
Speaker 27: Was that game?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I bet?
Speaker 2: I bet your position for club and country full back,
Speaker 2: right back, it's become a really attacking position in the
Speaker 2: modern game. Of course, it's a defensive position first and foremost,
Speaker 2: but I know that you like to get forward and
Speaker 2: add your attacking and potast So how do you balance
Speaker 2: your defensive responsibilities with the desire to get forward.
Speaker 30: Yeah, obviously, you know, defending first it is the most important.
Speaker 30: But yeah, obviously everyone knows I love to attack and
Speaker 30: get up and help the team.
Speaker 19: You know, was crossing and I was obviously assisting, And you.
Speaker 30: Know, I think lately I've been adding to my game
Speaker 30: a little bit more on the final third and you know,
Speaker 30: getting my name on the score sheet, so it's going
Speaker 30: to continue to also build into that, you know more,
Speaker 30: I guess complete player, you know, with that.
Speaker 19: Finishing aspect as well. But yeah, I'm still only.
Speaker 30: Young as well, so I can still improve a lot
Speaker 30: on my game. But I think, yeah, being here at
Speaker 30: Chelsea and also with the Matilda's, I think, you know,
Speaker 30: just keep improving. But yeah, you know, I love playing fullback.
Speaker 30: I love attacking, defending. I think it's the best position
Speaker 30: on field.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you wouldn't say that, but a lot
Speaker 2: of people would also agree. Just to close l A,
Speaker 2: Chelsea have supporters all over the world, all over the place.
Speaker 2: What does it mean for you to be able to
Speaker 2: come down Under and connect with fans obviously here in
Speaker 2: New Zealand, but specifically for you in Australia during this tour.
Speaker 30: Yeah, I'm really excited and never do I think I'd be,
Speaker 30: you know, in New Zealand or Australia with Chelsea. So
Speaker 30: it's such an amazing moment for me in my career
Speaker 30: and with Chelsea at the club. So yeah, I can't
Speaker 30: wait to hopefully see like a lot of fans at
Speaker 30: Eaton Park and also in.
Speaker 19: Sidney as well.
Speaker 30: I think it would be a great spectacle and you
Speaker 30: know also Versing Auckland FC. So yeah, excited for these
Speaker 30: two games and it'll be amazing to see all the
Speaker 30: fans come out, Chelsea fans in Australia and New Zealand
Speaker 30: and just also just general women's football and football fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking forward to it should be too great occasion.
Speaker 2: Starting at Eden Park this afternoon, Ellie, all the best
Speaker 2: for these two games and for the season a hit.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate you taking the time for a chat, Nowerries,
Speaker 2: Thank you, no, thank you, Ellie. Ellie Carpenter from the
Speaker 2: Chelsea women's side. The kickoff at for this afternoon at
Speaker 2: Edon Park, seven and a half to three News.
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