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Speaker 1: Either duplessy Allen, could you you're taking me? Nine two nine?

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Speaker 1: Who is the text? Understand a text? Fore supply and

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Speaker 1: as I said David C. Moore, Deputy Prime Minister with

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Speaker 1: US after five on Matt Now there are urgent calls

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Speaker 1: to help a New Zealand woman and her six year

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Speaker 1: old son who've been in US immigration detention for almost

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Speaker 1: three weeks now. Sarah Shaw and her son Isaac normally

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Speaker 1: live in Washington State. They were coming home from Vancouver

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Speaker 1: to Washington State, but at that point they were denied

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Speaker 1: entry into the US and then sent to a detention

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Speaker 1: facility in Texas. Victoria Bezantsen is a close friend of

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Speaker 1: Sarah's who's been fighting for her release and is with

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Speaker 1: US now. Victoria, are you there?

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Speaker 2: I am, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Hey. Have you managed to speak to her while she's

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Speaker 1: been in detention.

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Speaker 2: I am actually one of two people who has allowed

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Speaker 2: pretty frequent communication with Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And how she holding up?

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Speaker 2: The detention centers in America are pretty comparable to prisons,

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Speaker 2: so she's not doing the best.

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Speaker 1: And is she with her boy or are they separated?

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Speaker 2: Her six year old son is with her in the

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Speaker 2: detention facility. Each room has about five bunk beds, so

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Speaker 2: families can stay together.

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Speaker 1: Is he okay?

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Speaker 2: He is not doing as well as we would have hoped.

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Speaker 2: He's been there almost three weeks now, so he's having

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Speaker 2: a pretty hard time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, what was it? What was wrong with her

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Speaker 1: paperwork that landed her in this detention center?

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Speaker 2: So, because Sarah is on a combination visa when her

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Speaker 2: when her visa was renewed for her employment, she assumed

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Speaker 2: the entire visa had been renewed since the visa is

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Speaker 2: on a singular card. However, she was waiting on her

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Speaker 2: I three sixty paperwork. It was an appending status and

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Speaker 2: because that portion wasn't renewed, she was unable to travel

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Speaker 2: in and out of the country. However, that wasn't it

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Speaker 2: really explained to her when she got her renewal paperwork

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Speaker 2: and the visa.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what happens next?

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Speaker 2: So right now we're waiting to hear back from the

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Speaker 2: facility tomorrow. There's been a lot of pressure placed on

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Speaker 2: them from Washington senator and the governor, and we are

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Speaker 2: hoping that they will at minimum release Isaac, who did

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Speaker 2: have all of his proper paperwork. They still chose to

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Speaker 2: detain him illegally.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Where are the other kids?

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Speaker 2: The other two are currently in New Zealand with their

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Speaker 2: grandparents right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And is there a father here?

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Speaker 2: No, their fathers are not in the picture, oh Jess.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So where does the boy go? If he gets released?

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Speaker 2: He will be released to me.

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Speaker 1: And how long might you have to care for him

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Speaker 1: if she gets if she's still stuck in the detention center.

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Speaker 2: As long as it takes. I mean, she's one of

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Speaker 2: my best friends, and I mean our children are like cousins.

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Speaker 2: So he'll be with us until his mom's released.

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Speaker 1: Victoria. He can't come back to New Zealand be with

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Speaker 1: his grandparents.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't able to because he's not old enough to

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Speaker 2: fly un accompanied.

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Speaker 1: Oh Jesus complicated.

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Speaker 2: Where is.

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Speaker 1: Normally in this situation like this, Ministry of Foreign Affairs

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand would be involved and be advocating on

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Speaker 1: behalf of this person. Any word from them.

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Speaker 2: So her lawyer, I'm not sure if she has fully

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Speaker 2: been able to reach out to them yet. We had

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Speaker 2: some representatives from Washington who reacted pretty quickly to this situation,

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Speaker 2: so we've been relying on their help.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Okay, the money that you're raising, somebody is

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Speaker 1: raising on the go fundme page. What's that for?

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Speaker 2: So I'm the one who organized the gofund me. The

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Speaker 2: money is to pay for Sarah's legal representation and her

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Speaker 2: bills because she was detained outside of Washington State. She

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Speaker 2: actually has to pay two legal attorneys, one local to

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Speaker 2: Washington and one local to Texas, and that is incredibly

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Speaker 2: expensive in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is your vibe on it? How close to

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Speaker 1: resolution are you on this? Like? How long is she

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Speaker 1: going to have to be in there? Do you think?

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Speaker 2: So? Right now she has been given a court date

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Speaker 2: to the twenty ninth. We are hoping that they will

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Speaker 2: release her on the fourteenth, where she'll be able to

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Speaker 2: have that hearing here in Seattle. But that's really just

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Speaker 2: dependent upon ices mercy. The climate in America right now

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Speaker 2: is not friendly to immigration.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, Victoria, thanks for talking to us through it appreciated.

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Speaker 1: That's Victoria Bezantzen, who was a friend of the New

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Speaker 1: Zealand woman detained by the Bye Ice. Sarah Shaw is

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