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Speaker 1: Government are having a look at our insulation rules, so

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Speaker 1: MB they've been asked to investigate a standard known as

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Speaker 1: H one. The thinking is the industry is suggesting apparently

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Speaker 1: current laws lead to overheating, too much insulation, new builds

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Speaker 1: of fifty thousand dollars more expensive than they need to

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Speaker 1: be in Z Certified Builders CEO Malcolm Flemings with us

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Speaker 1: on this Malcolm morning, Good morning here, Mike. What's H

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Speaker 1: one is fewer pink bats or what.

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Speaker 2: H one is a variety of things, But first of all,

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Speaker 2: Certified Builders support H one stands ventilation and they're all

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Speaker 2: back which has a bit of proposed would under changes

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Speaker 2: that are making the building liverpool and sustainable. Where you

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Speaker 2: can meet with the monster. Recently the offer ways to

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Speaker 2: reduce building costs were without reversing the most effective components

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Speaker 2: of attline requirements which are now accepted and adopted by

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Speaker 2: the construction industry.

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Speaker 1: Right, so H one's good. We can live with H one.

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Speaker 1: If we went to H one, we'd save money in

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Speaker 1: alls well.

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Speaker 2: When looking at it costs. It's quite important that I've

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Speaker 2: been talking to members in the last couple of parts

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Speaker 2: about this and some of are quite upset one of

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Speaker 2: them recently told the Glass for examples, in an eighte

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars build, which is a live

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Speaker 2: build in Auckland, there's about ten k of cost association

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Speaker 2: with H one. Members are typically telling me for standards

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Speaker 2: house it's in the tens of twenty k. When will

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Speaker 2: say about forty percent on heading costs. That's a relatively

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Speaker 2: small upfront investment for significant long term game. I think

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Speaker 2: it's the point of I hope that significant investment has

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Speaker 2: been made by government and industry to ensure that builders

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Speaker 2: were prepared for the H one adoption date in May

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Manufacturers have also invested heavily, and new

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Speaker 2: plant for machinery was required to produce window frames to

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Speaker 2: accommodate firmly efficient class required by the new removing H

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Speaker 2: one and DOOS. Much of that investment by business.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So are we heading in the right direction or not?

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Speaker 2: I think we're getting the right direction with H one

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Speaker 2: and our sponsor to Bildlely. Just with the power Powers agreement,

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Speaker 2: we getting warm homes. A lot of costs to ramos

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Speaker 2: homes go forward. We're going back to where we were

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Speaker 2: two three years ago as a backward stamp, and there's

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Speaker 2: also seems a low confidence from business to government in

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Speaker 2: regard to we've been asked to produce laps skill and

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Speaker 2: provide the machinery to be other do all us.

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Speaker 1: You don't know where you're at.

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Speaker 2: You don't know where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no consistency. I get it, malcolmppreciate it very much.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Fleming the New Zealand Certified Builders Operation Morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: Rates will never go down. Councils do whatever they're like, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: you're right and you're wrong. Rates only play. Everything's weighted

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Speaker 1: in the inflation story. So counsel, think about your economy.

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Speaker 1: Your economy's money comes into the house and money goes

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Speaker 1: out of the house. How much money goes out of

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Speaker 1: the house to rates versus money it goes out of

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Speaker 1: the house to the power bill and the insurance and

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Speaker 1: your food and you're driving a big car and all

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. So, yes, councils are a problem, yes,

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Speaker 1: and durance is a problem. But they alone are not

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Speaker 1: weighted heavily enough to affect the overall economy in a

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Speaker 1: way that would prevent the resume bank from moving.

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