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Speaker 1: The Education Review officers, our relationship and sexual health teaching

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Speaker 1: is inconsistent in different schools at not meeting student needs.

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Speaker 1: So they did another one of these reports back in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and then EERO found that schools were meeting

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Speaker 1: minimum standards, but there were gaps in what was taught.

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Speaker 1: Those results have been mirrored in today's report. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: now to talk about this by the PPTA President, Chris Abercrombie.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: So this is the second report to find that it's

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Speaker 1: a bit loose all over a nation. Why has nothing

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Speaker 1: being done about the curriculum.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is an incredibly sensitive space for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, and so as the report said, you know,

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Speaker 2: schools are under pressure, principles, under pressure from certain parts

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Speaker 2: of their community, and so it's incredibly sensitive issue. So

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Speaker 2: I think this hasn't been dealt with, but it's really

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Speaker 2: clear it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I read the reporter. It says parents and students

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Speaker 1: want to learn earlier about personal safety, their friendships and bullying.

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Speaker 1: Our parents want students to learn more about consent. Boys

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Speaker 1: want to learn all topics later than girls. Fathers want

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Speaker 1: less of that relationship stuff and sexuality education taught the mothers.

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Speaker 1: So with so many points of view, isn't it just

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Speaker 1: impossible to write a curriculum that meets with mass approval,

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Speaker 1: So it should be in the hands of these schools

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Speaker 1: and not a national curriculum.

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem at the moment is in the hands

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Speaker 2: of these schools and it's not meeting really anyone's needs.

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Speaker 2: As the report said, three quarters of recent school leaders

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Speaker 2: said they didn't learn enough. So the idea of a

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Speaker 2: national curriculum is that everyone knows what's expected. Everyone's got

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Speaker 2: a clear understanding and what's happening. So parents could withdraw

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Speaker 2: their students if they chose to, or supplement their students

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Speaker 2: are learning if they chose to. So it's just giving

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Speaker 2: one a clear baseline.

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Speaker 1: So is there any work going into a clear baseline

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Speaker 1: or are we going to end out dilly delling the

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Speaker 1: way we already have between twenty eighteen and now this

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Speaker 1: new report in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: My understanding there is nothing on the horizon for this

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Speaker 2: part of the curriculum. So we're really hoping the government

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Speaker 2: takes on board these recommendations from er.

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Speaker 1: Could it be too terrible of me, shock horror to

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Speaker 1: suggest that perhaps forget about the schools and maybe parents

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Speaker 1: should take this into their own hands.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, parents should absolutely have a key role

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Speaker 2: in this, and it's really important that parents understand that,

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Speaker 2: and it's a relationship between school and parents to get

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Speaker 2: this right. And so the report really clearly says that

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Speaker 2: some people want more, some people want less, and so

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Speaker 2: it's about just making sure everyone's got a clear baseline

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Speaker 2: and so that parents can supplement, battle or remove these

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Speaker 2: students if they choose to.

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Speaker 1: Chris Abercrobi, thanks for getting up early for us. Chris

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Speaker 1: is the PPTA president.

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