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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 2: Be only a well dreaded own New rules for government

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Speaker 2: contracts that favors local companies. David Seymour on lunches and

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Speaker 2: the moarification of the pharmacy industry. Wait till you hear

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Speaker 2: about school Rugby changing again, Mark and Jenny Politics after Right,

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Speaker 2: Richard ardol Murray olds they do some top shelf stuff

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Speaker 2: as well. Poskyido, Middle of the Week, Welcome to it.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to tell seven past six. By the way,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to tell that Mark Carney seemed to be

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Speaker 2: up for a fight with Donald Trump in his opening

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Speaker 2: Our Words. Meantime, Malcolm Turnbull, who ran Australia for about

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Speaker 2: three years but never in a way that reflected how

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Speaker 2: good you thought he could be before he got the jobs,

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Speaker 2: found new mileage and chipping in from the sidelines posters

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Speaker 2: glory days. I mean, talking tough on Trump is way easier,

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Speaker 2: of course when you aren't in charge of anything. But

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he didn't make an excellent point. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: we told you about his Bloomberg interview, where he suggested

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Speaker 2: President G may well be the ultimate winner as the

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Speaker 2: world sides more with the consistent and perhaps polite person

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Speaker 2: as a post to a bully Turnbull was not done.

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Speaker 2: He turned up on the ABC twice yesterday and quite

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Speaker 2: rightly chided the interviewers who asked whether it was wise

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Speaker 2: to criticize Trump at a time when Australia was wanting

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Speaker 2: tariff exemptions. Has the ABC become, he said, so compliant

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Speaker 2: and weak that you were seriously suggesting that we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be free to speak the truth in Australia for fear

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. Is that the depths you've sunk to.

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Speaker 2: He went on, Australia could not continue this bipartisan gas

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Speaker 2: lighting that's going on at the moment. Are we just

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Speaker 2: going to become a conger line of sickophants creeping through

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Speaker 2: the White House paying homage to this s guy? These

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Speaker 2: are excellent lines, and I revel in people's ability to

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Speaker 2: speak their mind in a world where woken blumonde so

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Speaker 2: often passes for discourse. Flip side, of course, as Trump

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Speaker 2: is so nuts, I wouldn't be remotely surprised to see

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Speaker 2: a message on truth social saying because your ex prime minister,

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Speaker 2: a failed leader, was so rude, I will not be

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Speaker 2: handing exemptions out. I love Australia. I have a lot

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Speaker 2: of friends in Australia. Your ex leader, loser, Malcolm Turnbull

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Speaker 2: is not one of them. Until he apologizes to me

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Speaker 2: and the great people of the unis it states there

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Speaker 2: can be no exemption, then tell me you can't see that.

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Speaker 2: That's how pathetic it's become. But and this is where

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Speaker 2: Malcolm and Carney might well be right, that is no

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Speaker 2: excuse to acquiesce, to sell out, to suck up. As

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Speaker 2: Malcolm also pointed out on his ABC spray you suck

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Speaker 2: up to bullies, you get more bullying.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: And the question around tariffs might be just how pathetic

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Speaker 2: can all of this get? Ontario has a crack so

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Speaker 2: Donald sees that nuts them some.

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Speaker 3: He talks all about how he will double the tariffs

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Speaker 3: on steel and aluminium. This in response, he says, also

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Speaker 3: to the very unfair anti American farmer tariffs which are

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Speaker 3: on various US dairy products the markets.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of loving all of this, and Trump's mates

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Speaker 2: continue to try and defend a pending recession.

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Speaker 4: President Trump has told people there's going to be a

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Speaker 4: little bit of pain with this, and there is.

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Speaker 5: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: You know, the stock market's gone up and down before,

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Speaker 4: it'll come back. But when we somewhere around first of April,

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Speaker 4: where everybody's got to be on the same level, I

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Speaker 4: think we'll start leveling out.

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Speaker 6: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: If you want some good news, Marco and the gang

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Speaker 2: in South he seemed to be making war progress.

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Speaker 7: We are very open, were very open, and they want

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Speaker 7: to have very constructed, deep friend partners conversation with our

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Speaker 7: American partners.

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Speaker 2: In the Philippines. The local FEDS are branded up to Turte.

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Speaker 2: After the ICC said they wouldn't mind.

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Speaker 8: The world there was something systematically wrong with the Turtis

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Speaker 8: drug war, meaning that what you had there was not

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Speaker 8: a real drug war based on drew process, dead squads,

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Speaker 8: mercenaries and then doing some really really dark and bloody things.

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Speaker 2: And then in Britain the news this time yesterday. Of

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Speaker 2: course there's everyone on board those ships that hit each

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Speaker 2: other survived. Well, it seems not to be true.

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Speaker 6: Thirteen of the fourteen sailors are the Envy, so longer

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Speaker 6: accounted for search and rescue operations for the missing sailor

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Speaker 6: continued throughout yesterday but were called off yesterday evening at

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Speaker 6: the points of which the chances of their survival had

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Speaker 6: unfortunately significantly diminished.

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Speaker 2: And in court Kyle Clifford, who is depraved and guilty

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Speaker 2: of murder and rape, very high profile case in that

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Speaker 2: part of the world, got a whole of life sentence.

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Speaker 9: The evidence I have heard shows you to be a

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Speaker 9: jealous man, soaked in self pity, a man who holds

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Speaker 9: women in utter contempt.

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Speaker 2: And so that was that. Finally, Sir Jim Radcliffe, for

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Speaker 2: our old mate, he's announced that, man, you plans to

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Speaker 2: build a new four and a half billion dollars stadium.

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Speaker 2: It would replace Old Trafford. They played at Old Trafford

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Speaker 2: since nineteen ten. I've been to Old Trafford as a

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Speaker 2: place to go as a tourist. I'm not sure it's

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Speaker 2: the greatest play anyway, it'll be the biggest in the

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Speaker 2: UK capacity of one hundred thousand. That is a big

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Speaker 2: small issue of money, men, you are currently a billion

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Speaker 2: in debt. I think the New Zealand Rugby Union can

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Speaker 2: attest to that. And if they get past that particular hurdle.

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Speaker 2: They can build it. They reckon in five years they

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Speaker 2: should come and build that road north of Auckland. It'd

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Speaker 2: be awesome news of the world. In ninety Foster is

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Speaker 2: doing it. By the way, you don't know the work

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Speaker 2: of Norman Foster.

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Speaker 5: Look that up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is on terry, I think for God's sake.

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Speaker 2: So Doug who seems to be he's the Ontario premier,

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Speaker 2: seems to be a ruling to himself. They supply Ontario

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Speaker 2: power to Minnesota, New York and Michigan. They're threatening now

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Speaker 2: to turn that off. The tariffs they're imposing twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: That brings in about three hundred thousand dollars a day.

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Speaker 2: There's a bit of money in tariffs. Trump sees that,

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Speaker 2: of course, and goes, oh, you think these things for

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Speaker 2: twenty five, I'll give you fifty. So meantime, Stalantis who

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Speaker 2: are caught up in the aluminum and steel, they're melting down.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is a complete and utter mess. Twelve

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Speaker 2: Eppy white House is about to give a briefing on

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Speaker 2: the cluster that they're currently wading their way through. Once

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Speaker 2: some good news. Pope Francis seems okay. Participated remotely in

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Speaker 2: the spiritual retreat Tuesday. Doctors have upgraded the prognosis. He's

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Speaker 2: no longer in imminent danger of death. So that's good.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Keller. How welcome in good morning, Mike, is through

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Speaker 2: this cacophony of misery.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Look, markets have governed to focus this week, haven't they.

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Speaker 10: Look after we spoke yesterday, US markets didn't really gain

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Speaker 10: any more ground in the clothes, but it ended up

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Speaker 10: being quite an interesting data, isn't it. I mean, a

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Speaker 10: four percent fall in NASDA. You don't see that every day. Look, Mike,

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Speaker 10: uncertainty is still the name of the game, and I

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Speaker 10: just need to put some flavor around that. So we

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Speaker 10: know that there's going to be tariffs. Look, we know

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Speaker 10: there's going to be trade protectionism. We know there's going

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Speaker 10: to be job losses in US government services, but we

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Speaker 10: just you've got no idea what the detail While the

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Speaker 10: end pointing to mean this track is also fluid and

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Speaker 10: constantly changing. This is what's generating this uncertainty and the

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Speaker 10: markets are voting, Mike, and at the moment that vote

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Speaker 10: is negative. There was a Benjamin Grahame, very famous US investor,

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Speaker 10: once said, in the short run, the market is a

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Speaker 10: voting machine. In the long run, it's a weighing machine.

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Speaker 10: The short term measures sentiment. Sentiment is clearly negative. But

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Speaker 10: I just want to put a little bit of perspective

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Speaker 10: around this because let's look at the year to date moves,

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Speaker 10: because it comes after a very strong twenty twenty four

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Speaker 10: So the S and P five hundred, this is up

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Speaker 10: to the close yesterday, it's down five point two percent.

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Speaker 10: Last year, that index gained over twenty three percent. The Nasdaq, yes,

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Speaker 10: it's down nine and a half percent so far this year.

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Speaker 10: Last year gained almost thirty percent twenty eight point six percent.

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Speaker 10: So just putting those losses into perspective is also important

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Speaker 10: to look at the composition of the weakness. It is

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Speaker 10: concentrated in those big socks, the Magnificent seven. Look at

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Speaker 10: those in isolation. Last year, they drove the market higher.

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Speaker 10: If I look at an index of those Magnificent seven

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Speaker 10: stops last year, that index was up sixty seven percent.

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Speaker 10: I'll say that again, sixty seven percent. So year today's

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Speaker 10: it's down fifteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: But boy sixty seven is not too bad.

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Speaker 10: But it is very volatile, and we're seeing that volatile,

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Speaker 10: particularly stocks like Tesla in nvidio. They're really moving it

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Speaker 10: around a lot, and that's dragging the index lower, which

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Speaker 10: means that there's But what this does mean, there's less move.

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Speaker 10: There are four hundred and ninety three other stocks in

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Speaker 10: the S and P five hundred. If I look at

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Speaker 10: an equal weighted S and P five hundred, it's only

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Speaker 10: of the disproportionate effect of those big stocks. But all

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Speaker 10: of the Trump bumpers gone, those big risk gold moves

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Speaker 10: presidential election, that's gone. So you saw that in Tesley,

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Speaker 10: saw that in cryptos. You know, Tesla's harved in value

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Speaker 10: from where it was in December of life four hundred

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Speaker 10: and seventy nine bucks. I remind people it's now two

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Speaker 10: hundred and twenty seven. Bitcoin surged one hundred and eight thousand,

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Speaker 2: Fell to seventy nine yesterday.

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Speaker 10: But the things might where to from here. The uncertainty,

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Speaker 10: it doesn't go away because you've seen more tariff changes overnight,

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Speaker 10: another night, another tariff, but you don't. We've got that

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Speaker 10: big day in April, the second where lots of changes

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Speaker 10: that looms on the US tara front. So anything that could

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Speaker 10: happened between now and then the other thing we need

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Speaker 10: to remember, Mike, We've got this renegotiation of the US

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Speaker 10: debt ceiling that's happening this week as well, So more

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Speaker 10: uncertainty there. Just quickly the local market. We as per usual,

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Speaker 10: we had a fairly muted reaction. We only fel zero

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Speaker 10: point eight percent and a small fall in wholesale interest rates,

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Speaker 10: so we were a far more steady and the currency

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Speaker 10: at least we weren't being dragged too much into the madness.

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Speaker 2: Okay, quickly give me the local spending because I look

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Speaker 2: at this, I see some light. Do I see light?

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Speaker 11: A little bit?

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Speaker 10: So from the macro big picture to the micro as

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Speaker 10: well financial markets gyrate MIC people still go on about

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Speaker 10: their day to day lives. Yes, that's new Zealand release

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Speaker 10: card spending data today. But as an entre. Yesterday a

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Speaker 10: New Zealand's biggest banks, so illustrative. Overall spending rows one percent.

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Speaker 10: That's good because we had a number of weaker outcomes.

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Speaker 10: It's being led by business goods and services. Were still

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Speaker 10: see ending held back by the stuff that's censive to

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Speaker 10: interest rates, housing, durables, discretionary spending. Presumably those areas get

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Speaker 10: a bit of a tailwind as interest rates continue to moderate.

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Speaker 10: Tourism spend they my eye was drawn to this. It's

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Speaker 10: still under pressure, down eleven percent year on year, so

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Speaker 2: Mike, those kids on the news last night were obviously

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Speaker 12: As the President has said over and over again, when

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist warehouse Keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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Speaker 12: First of all, when it comes to the stock market,

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Speaker 2: To the bigger maes that we're now creating. Is that

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Speaker 2: we'll get into the lunches with David.

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Speaker 1: Seymour setting me agenda and talking the big issues. The

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Speaker 2: my phone's not working. Can you put it on here? No,

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Speaker 18: No, it's a contract a between two parties that don't

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you know about LaBelle when you signed up

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Speaker 18: Well, we certainly knew that they were the subcontractor you know,

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Speaker 18: they're in trouble. We were aware that they may have

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Speaker 2: Why would you sign up with anybody who you knew

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Speaker 18: Because we didn't believe that there was any issue that

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Speaker 2: Told you that there wouldn't be a problem. Was that Compass.

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Speaker 18: That was done through the people that negotiated on behalf,

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Speaker 18: through the Ministry of Education. It wasn't well as specific individuals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the ministry knew there could be troubled but

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Speaker 18: Well, I think that's a fair summary. But there was

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Speaker 18: certainly no reason to think that they wouldn't deliver, and

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Speaker 18: there's been no interruption to the delivery of school lunches

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Speaker 18: as a result of this liquidation. Yesterday ninety nine point

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Speaker 2: Would you concede that, given what you've faced in the

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 18: I think what we're doing is we're getting it into

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Speaker 18: have been problems with the school lunch program, but in

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Speaker 18: each instance we've been upfront, We've accepted problems and would

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Speaker 18: solve them. And frankly, I think what's needed is a

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Speaker 18: look at the wider picture here. The whole country is

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Speaker 18: in some financial trouble. We're short of money. Generally, a

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Speaker 2: I idea. I get all of that. Does LaBelle in

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Speaker 18: Well, I can't say whether that whether it has or hasn't,

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Speaker 18: the last thing they need is some politician going on

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Speaker 18: some people might come to that conclusion that I can't

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Speaker 2: I just look at how I conduct my life, and

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Speaker 2: I've wondered if you've made a mistake here. When I

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Speaker 2: hire people in life, I hire the best people, not

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Speaker 2: the people who tell me, look there's something over there.

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Speaker 2: It might be a problem that might not be. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you were asking for trouble? Was that? Were they the

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Speaker 18: No, I don't think so and so.

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Speaker 18: There's always a range of people that can satisfy a contract.

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Speaker 2: The cheapest people in the game.

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Speaker 18: Well, again, I'm not going to go into the exact

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Speaker 2: We've worked ever and continue to David, I've been on

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Speaker 2: your side on this and the only thing I've been

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Speaker 2: worried about is the delivery. If you say you're going

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Speaker 2: to deliver, you've got to deliver. Lunchtime is lunchtime. It's

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Speaker 2: got to turn up. The rest of it's been just

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Speaker 2: a shambolic pile on from the media and it's a disgrace.

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Speaker 2: But if you went and hired mister cheapo, who you

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Speaker 2: bite you in the bum, that's on you, isn't it.

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Speaker 18: Well if it, actually it hasn't. What we've done is

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Speaker 18: overcome problems as they've arisen, when.

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Speaker 2: Problems because you went with the cheapest person in town

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Speaker 2: a decent operator, you wouldn't have had any problems in

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Speaker 17: Well, that's a.

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Speaker 18: Good characterization and a good story, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: It's a question. I'm just asking you. The question is

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Speaker 18: It's a characterization, and I reject it. I don't think

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Speaker 2: So you don't think you went with the cheapest bid

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Speaker 18: No, I don't agree with that. When you do a procurement,

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Speaker 18: we did it right and where we've had issues, we'll

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Speaker 18: solve them. That's actually the only way you're talk about

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Speaker 18: how you run your life.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I run my life, David, is I

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Speaker 2: hire people who do the job, who don't present me

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Speaker 2: with the problems, and I pay for that. That's how

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Speaker 2: I run my life.

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Speaker 18: And that's exactly what we're doing. Wherever there's been a problem.

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Speaker 2: Apart from the apart from all the problems you've had,

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Speaker 2: and the company that's now in liquidation.

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Speaker 18: And again, the company that's in liquidation is not interrupting

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Speaker 18: the delivery of meals. Where As I said yesterday after

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Speaker 18: they were liquidated, we achieved right up to one hundred

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Speaker 18: percent if you want a round, ninety nine point ninety

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Speaker 18: six percent timetime delivery. So I understand what you're saying,

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Speaker 18: but the premise of your argument is that there's a

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Speaker 18: problem due to the liquidation.

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Speaker 17: There is no problem.

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Speaker 2: I'm just asking what there is. If you can assure

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Speaker 2: me there isn't, that's fine, and the delivery continues. TV

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Speaker 2: one thing last night, did you see it?

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Speaker 18: I think they ran two stories if I'm right, okay?

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Speaker 2: Is that the most disgraceful form of I use the

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Speaker 2: word really loose lead journalism we've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you're up against. This is a massive,

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Speaker 2: almost state funded pylon.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Well, first of all, let's just remember that seventy five

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Speaker 18: percent of children have lunches made by their children. There's

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Speaker 18: an argument that that should be one hundred percent. The

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Speaker 18: government's got a policy that we're going to fund lunches

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Speaker 18: for twenty five actually about twenty seven percent of children

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Speaker 18: up and down New Zealand. My job is to do

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Speaker 18: that as efficiently as possible than we are. But I think,

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Speaker 18: as I mentioned earlier, you know, the media may have

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Speaker 18: missed the wider context here. The whole country needs an

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Speaker 18: improvement in productivity. When somebody comes up with a way

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Speaker 18: to effectively double productivity by delivering the same nutrition.

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Speaker 17: At half the price.

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Speaker 18: Then I think we should actually be asking ourselves, well,

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Speaker 18: is that a good thing?

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Speaker 17: Is that what we need more of?

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Speaker 18: Are their problems?

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Speaker 17: Yes?

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Speaker 18: Is the guy in charge actually working through them each day,

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Speaker 18: overcoming them and making it better every day?

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Speaker 17: Yes?

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Speaker 18: Is that exactly the kind of spirit that we need

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Speaker 18: in New ZealandI for to overcome a lot of other problems?

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Speaker 17: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 18: Would you ever be able to explain that to certain

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Speaker 18: journalists at tvn Z or three News? I suspect you can't,

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Speaker 18: and that's why their audiences are switching off, because people

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Speaker 18: want to see solutions and a way out of the

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Speaker 18: various challenges we have in this country.

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Speaker 2: Appreciect time, David Seymour. I was going to get onto

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Speaker 2: Away from trim my apologies with it's a little bit late,

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Speaker 2: but you can wade us through the mess.

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Speaker 22: Try to morning mate. Boom to bust in twenty days

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Speaker 22: would be the headline. If we wind back the clockt

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Speaker 22: to when Trump was starting to take over. Wall Street

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Speaker 22: was sitting at all time high as wasn't it. The

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Speaker 22: the enview of the world. Now, following its worst day

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Speaker 22: roller coaster ride, six hundred and twenty three points off

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Speaker 22: Consumer sentiment also souring. People are beginning to use the

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Speaker 22: R word R for recession. Trump was asked about.

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Speaker 15: This, Are you expecting a reception this year?

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Speaker 1: I hate to predict things like that.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, Golbin Sachs, the Investment Giant, says there is now

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Speaker 22: a one in five chance of a recession. Consumer confidence offers,

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Speaker 22: I say trump tariff war is sending out shock waves.

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Speaker 22: Trump now saying he will double tariff on steel and

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Speaker 22: aluminium brought in from Canada, this from twenty five to

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Speaker 22: fifty percent. Ontario's Premier Doug Ford has announced a twenty

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Speaker 22: five percent surcharge on electricity as a result, power used

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Speaker 22: by some one and a half million residents of Michigan, Minnesota.

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Speaker 9: And New York.

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Speaker 22: He is saying that about the situation.

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Speaker 23: Consumer confidence is down, the market stumbling. You know, there's

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Speaker 23: going to be plants closed in the US Assembly. Plants

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Speaker 23: will shut down because they won't have the aluminum, or

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Speaker 23: they'll be paying twice three times as much. This is

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Speaker 23: this is absolute chaos created by one person.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, he is calling for negotiation. So far, Trump is

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Speaker 22: pursuing the tear of tirade everyday. Americans yet to feel

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Speaker 22: this in full, but they certainly will. Delta Airlines now

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Speaker 22: the lays to slash their profit outlook, the backnash against

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Speaker 22: Musk also is growing. The mega megabillionaire seems to be

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Speaker 22: floating the idea of cutting money from Social Security, this

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Speaker 22: country's retirement scheme. The pension scheme says mask most of.

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Speaker 5: The federal spending is entitlements. So that's like the big.

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Speaker 4: One to eliminate, Mike.

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Speaker 22: Seventy one point six million people get these benefits which

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Speaker 22: are wrongly called entitlements. This is people's money, we paid

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Speaker 22: for it to be kept in government hands for uses,

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Speaker 22: retirement funds and political parties both sides spend a lot

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Speaker 22: of it and other stuff. They had no right to

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Speaker 22: do that, putting the fund in jeopardy again. It's not

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Speaker 22: their money.

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Speaker 2: Good only Mite. We'll see you, Frida. I appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much, Richard Allensteite. So, by the way, Trump is

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Speaker 2: cooling the boycott of Taesla illegal, which of course it's

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Speaker 2: not because you don't have to buy law by a Tesla.

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Speaker 2: But he is going to buy a Tesla today just

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Speaker 2: to help it. He's mighty long now hide away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The mic Husking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zibby lunch feedback in just a couple of moments. Miss

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Speaker 2: Leabed is still going and going strong on the double

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Speaker 2: tariff for Canada.

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Speaker 12: The President saw that and has an obligation and a

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Speaker 12: responsibility to respond accordingly and represent the interests of the

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Speaker 12: American people. So he has made the decision to add

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Speaker 12: a twenty five percent tariff. So now stealing aluminum tariffs

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Speaker 12: will come into effect tomorrow at the rate of fifty percent,

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Speaker 12: and our steel and aluminum industries have actually applauded these

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Speaker 12: tariffs because again they know it's going to grow their

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Speaker 12: industry here, it's going to allow them to export more

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Speaker 12: steel that is made right here.

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 12: Then this question, does this administration still consider Canada to

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Speaker 12: be a close ally of the United States? Well, I

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Speaker 12: think Canada is a neighbor. They are a partner, they

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Speaker 12: have always been an ally. Perhaps they are becoming a

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Speaker 12: competitor now, But as the President also laid out in

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Speaker 12: his True Social Post today, he believes that Canadians would

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Speaker 12: benefit greatly from becoming the fifty first state of the

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Speaker 12: United States of America.

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Speaker 1: By the ouse, it's the fizz with business fiber take

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Speaker 1: your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Mike Prebble's article in The Herald ends worth when the

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Speaker 2: elephants are dancing the myr should style off the dance floor.

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Speaker 2: It's a very good piece. He talks about the tariffs

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Speaker 2: and what we can do about it. Some insight KPMG's

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Speaker 2: Financial Institution's performance survey just quickly for you. Profitability in

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Speaker 2: banking seven point twenty two billion dollars last year, up

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Speaker 2: a little bit on twenty twenty three. Not a lot

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Speaker 2: need interest in come. Big reason for that difference between

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Speaker 2: revenue they're making on interest faring assets and the cost

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Speaker 2: of servicing them. That's personal lined mortgages or that thing

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Speaker 2: up three hundred and forty two million or two point

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Speaker 2: two three percent to fifteen point seven billion dollars. The

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Speaker 2: net interest margins remained at two point three four and

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Speaker 2: this is of great angst and upset to a number

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Speaker 2: of people, including my good self. But two point three

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Speaker 2: four percent, So who would we compare to? Oh, I

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Speaker 2: don't know the parent companies in Australia. How about that? Well,

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Speaker 2: the parent companies Australia run a margin of one point

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Speaker 2: four to three to one point eight four versus our

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Speaker 2: two point three four same bank, different country, different margin.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a question or two to be

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Speaker 2: asked there, What if the government should look at that?

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Speaker 2: Right the business of procurement. It's patriotism versus the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: Nicola willis on this and other matters after the News,

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Speaker 2: which is next.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to stay in the know,

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Speaker 1: the mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the

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Speaker 1: buyers others can't use togsadv.

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Speaker 2: Morning seven past seven. So good news for local companies

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Speaker 2: as the government changes the rules procurement for government contracts.

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Speaker 2: The wider benefit to New Zealand well now need to

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Speaker 2: be considered as opposed to the cheapest quote seventy one

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Speaker 2: rules you currently have that drops to forty seven for

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Speaker 2: smaller projects. If you are local and can deliver, you

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Speaker 2: should get the work of Building Industry Federation Boss Julian

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Speaker 2: Lasers with US. Julian, morning to you, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 17: You like it absolutely. I think you know this is

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Speaker 17: going to help economic growth and deliver economous value rather

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Speaker 17: than focusing on prescriptive criteria. So I think we're going

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Speaker 17: to see better deals, more work for local companies and

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Speaker 17: moving away from a compliance from procurement to outcome driven

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Speaker 17: decisions that really is going to prioritize the Uland's economic health.

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Speaker 2: So it's a great mode good the seventy one rules

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Speaker 2: down to forty seven, are they obvious ones that really

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Speaker 2: didn't need to be there? In other words, as the

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Speaker 2: government taking the right room to the right place.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, look absolutely, you know it still leads forty seven.

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Speaker 17: We're not throwing out the baby with the bath order.

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Speaker 17: We're streamlining procurement hasn't been located since twenty nine eighteen,

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Speaker 17: so it's about time. Some of these rules really are prescriptive.

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Speaker 17: You know, companies don't need to worry about requirement to

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Speaker 17: buy evs or buy office materials that are you know,

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Speaker 17: low waste necessarily they need to focus on.

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Speaker 2: Now just explain, Do explain that because most people won't

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Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. So part of the humant process,

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Speaker 2: you go, I want to build this building, and they go, right,

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Speaker 2: how many EV's you got, how many carbon neutral chairs

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Speaker 2: have you got? Et cetera. That's the sort of nonsense

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Speaker 2: you have to fill out.

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Speaker 17: Right, Absolutely, there's a lot of red tape, and there

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Speaker 17: are these requirements that they are meant to put down

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Speaker 17: as part of their tent or their bids. But those

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Speaker 17: are things that really create a burden. And as I say,

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Speaker 17: don't sort of really focus on those important things that

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Speaker 17: those companies have the sort of odd of value of

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Speaker 17: things that they should be delivering for construction, not those

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Speaker 17: other things that sort of achieve why aims aroun sustainability.

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Speaker 2: For example, Right, what does worry me slightly building new

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Speaker 2: non residential government buildings to a five star standard? They

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Speaker 2: no longer have to be five star? What's wrong with

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Speaker 2: five star?

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Speaker 17: Well, I think I think they're just saying look, rather

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Speaker 17: than you know, they still have to meet the code.

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Speaker 17: They still have to meet all the obvious criteria that

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Speaker 17: we already have for you know, a very high quality

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Speaker 17: built environment. But going to the nth degree to have

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Speaker 17: a five star rating probably is unnecessary. It's fit like

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Speaker 17: what they're looking at with the H one. It's let's

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Speaker 17: let's deliver what we need as part of our code

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Speaker 17: and to have safe, you know, quality warm homes, but

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Speaker 17: we don't need to go overboard.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good stuff. Julian, appreciate your insight very much. Julian

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Speaker 2: lais who's with the Building Industry Federation. He's the boss there.

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes past seven.

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Speaker 1: This is news Talksking News.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so where are we at with the war and

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Speaker 2: peace talks? This is in read in Saudi Arabia. I'man

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Speaker 2: and KIV. Jimmy Russian's back. There's Jimmy morning.

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Speaker 5: Hi, good morning.

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Speaker 2: We got a deal.

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Speaker 16: Well, we seem to have a significant progress. Yes, in

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Speaker 16: the last few minutes. This is very much breaking news.

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Speaker 16: So a lot of details are still emerging, but both

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Speaker 16: sides have released a joint statement which says that security

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Speaker 16: assistance to Ukraine, American security stint Ukraine and intelligence sharing

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Speaker 16: will be restored, so weapons and American intelligence will now

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Speaker 16: be shared again with the Ukrainians. There was a pause

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Speaker 16: on that. There's also going to be a proposed thirty

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Speaker 16: day ceasefire, which is obviously contingent on the Russians agreeing.

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Speaker 16: But this is significant development for the Ukrainian government. It's

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Speaker 16: a major win because obviously they're going to have American

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Speaker 16: weapons slowing back into the country.

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Speaker 2: Now this seems to have got sorted out really quickly.

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Speaker 2: Did they predetermine a lot of this turn up in

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and basically pull their pins out and sign it?

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Speaker 16: So essentially we know that Zelenski had sent a letter

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Speaker 16: to Trump apologizing for, you know, the confrontation in the

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Speaker 16: White House. I think he was very gracious in that apology, because,

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Speaker 16: to be honest, I don't think he had that much

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Speaker 16: to apologize for, to be honest, But anyway, he kind

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Speaker 16: of fell on his sword a little bit, and you know,

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Speaker 16: was the bigger man. He sent that letter, and then

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Speaker 16: there was a high level delegation the US Sector of

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Speaker 16: State and they managed to hash it out. I think

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Speaker 16: the Ukrainians are doing everything they can to demonstrate that

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Speaker 16: they are ready for peace, that they are ready to,

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Speaker 16: you know, end this war which has lasted for three

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Speaker 16: years now and has cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

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Speaker 2: We've got half the equation, though, did the Russians, seemingly

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Speaker 2: from Levro particularly, appear to be conceding nothing. What happens there, well,

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Speaker 2: that's the big question.

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Speaker 16: So obviously the Americans have tried to pressure Ukraine to

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Speaker 16: come to terms, and they they've succeeded in their way.

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Speaker 16: But we're waiting to see what pressure they will attempt

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Speaker 16: to put on the Russians, if any, in order to

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Speaker 16: get them to agree as well, because obviou you can

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Speaker 16: only have a ceasefire if both sides agrees, And now

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Speaker 16: the ball is very much in Moscow's court exactly.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy, good to catch up with you. We'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Russian who's in klieve he is Marco and Saudi

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Speaker 2: Arabia line.

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Speaker 14: Today, we've made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted,

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Speaker 14: which is to enter into a ceasefire, into immediate negotiations

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Speaker 14: to end this conflict in a way that's enduring and

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Speaker 14: sustainable and accounts for their interests, their security, their ability

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Speaker 14: to prosper as a nation. I want to personally think

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Speaker 14: we both want to thank the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 14: Majesty for hosting us, for making this possible. They've been

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Speaker 14: instrumental in this process and we're very grateful to them

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Speaker 14: for hosting us here today and Osky.

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Speaker 2: So there we go. Sounds positive balls in the Russians

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Speaker 2: court and that's going to be a sticky one. As

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Speaker 2: my strong suspicion. Thirty minutes past seven, Mike, the most

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Speaker 2: expensive people are not always the best earted. This goes

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Speaker 2: back to David Seymour and the lunch. I'm not arguing

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Speaker 2: for the most expensive people. What I want to know

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Speaker 2: is as a government, who are procuring the service that

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Speaker 2: you know is controversial because you're looking to save money.

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Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with saving money, you know is going to

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Speaker 2: be controversial, and it's proven to be so. When you

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Speaker 2: know within that mix is a company that has financial difficulties,

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Speaker 2: do you not have some sort of red flag somewhere

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Speaker 2: that goes I wonder if this goes tits up, whether

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Speaker 2: this is politically going to damage me. So he spent

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Speaker 2: the last three or four weeks putting out fires and

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Speaker 2: this is just another fire. This is grist to the

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Speaker 2: mill to this monumental pilon. We've seen over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks of people who are determined to literally

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Speaker 2: wine their way to some sort of victory line as

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Speaker 2: they see it. And last night's news and a lot

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Speaker 2: of you're onto the TV one news if you didn't

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Speaker 2: see the story, don't watch it. But believe me, it

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Speaker 2: was a new low for New Zealand journalism, if you

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Speaker 2: call it that literally. It was a story where the

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Speaker 2: school encouraged the kids to throw their lunches in a

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Speaker 2: big bucket. It was spag bowl. As explaining to Andrew earlier,

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Speaker 2: it's spag bowl. You cannot make spag bowl inedible. It's impossible.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's mother made spag bowl. It might not have been

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Speaker 2: the best spag bowl in the history of the world,

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Speaker 2: but it was perfectly edible. We all ate it. To

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Speaker 2: encourage kids to throw that out. Taxpayers money in a

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Speaker 2: bucket to be fed to the pigs is not news.

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Speaker 2: It's not journalism. It's a low form of clickbaitism. Myke

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Speaker 2: Capitol rules in New Zealand result in the higher margin

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand and in Australia. You've bought the Adrian

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Speaker 2: All line. I mean you're partially right, but not totally right.

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Speaker 2: And that is why the government are looking at the

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Speaker 2: competitiveness or lack of it currently in the banking sector

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Fifteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: B and the really incongruous bit that they keep forgetting

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Speaker 2: because they keep tripping over themselves in this endless coverage,

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Speaker 2: is that they keep telling us the kids are hungry.

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Speaker 2: Kids are so hungry and hungry kids cannot learn. That

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Speaker 2: was the mantra, and hence the school lunch program got invented.

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Speaker 2: They are so hungry they cannot learn. So if we

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Speaker 2: accept all that, suddenly they're not hungry enough to eat food.

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Speaker 2: They're only hungry enough to eat the food that they

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Speaker 2: particularly enjoy, are they So the shot of these so

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Speaker 2: called hungry kids who have had no breakfast and no

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Speaker 2: lunch can then throw their food out because they're not

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Speaker 2: really that hungry, or there are hungry, but they're only

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Speaker 2: hungry when the food suits and then come on, I

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Speaker 2: wish I had more time with David Seymour because he's

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Speaker 2: looking for people for the Pharmacy Council currently, and you

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Speaker 2: put out yesterday the competency's standards required. And this goes

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Speaker 2: to why we can't bring people into the country with

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Speaker 2: any skills, because this is the nonsense they face. This

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Speaker 2: is just a small selection to be a pharmacist in

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Speaker 2: this country. You need to explain the impacts of pre

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Speaker 2: of our tier own New Zealanders. Hell, does that mean

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Speaker 2: you need to demonstrate critical awareness of the health the

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Speaker 2: initiatives aiming to imbed tatiity oh Way Tangy into healthcare practice.

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Speaker 2: Explain the meaning of Tino rangetira tongua and how it

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Speaker 2: is relevant to the delivery of health services. I've been

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Speaker 2: here my whole sixty years. I can't explain that, Tea.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a pharmacist, I know, but I can't even

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Speaker 2: begin to explain that to you. What the hell does

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Speaker 2: that mean. I've followed the Treaty Settlements Bill submissions and

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Speaker 2: they can't agree on the treaty. So if they can't

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Speaker 2: agree on the treaty, do you think they can agree

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Speaker 2: on the meaning of tino rangeteer ratanner and how it's

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Speaker 2: relevant to the delivery of health services. I doubt it.

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Speaker 2: I think you can find one person who says one thing,

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Speaker 2: another person who says another. Explain healthy inequities that Maori

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Speaker 2: So you're sitting in Britain or Australia, Wisconsin, India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia,

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Speaker 2: and you're a pharmacist thinking of coming to New Zealand

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Speaker 2: you read that you're going to continue filling out your

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Speaker 2: and I overturned all these stupid practices and legislation. Well,

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Speaker 2: all go, yes, it is ridiculous. You are in government,

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Speaker 2: you've been in government for a year and a half.

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Speaker 2: You made some fairly specific promises in this area. Why

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Speaker 2: to my trip to work this morning. Actually, i'll do

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Speaker 2: of a fifty things I learnedless Now. One of the

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Speaker 2: you may recall, at the start of this particular process

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Speaker 2: it was a mad water wall, blow by blow account

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Speaker 2: of what was one of the country's in exciting word, contentious, outrageous,

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Speaker 2: heinous acts of the modern age. Fast forward a few days.

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Speaker 2: She was the only one left along with Mary Television,

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Speaker 2: So there's a lesson in that. On one hand, I

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Speaker 2: suppose you could mount an argument that the media is

870
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Speaker 2: so trimmed down these days, resourceful, lengthy procedures is limited.

871
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Speaker 2: Or you can also argue, and this is my argument,

872
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Speaker 2: the media are two magpie ish and fascinate themselves with

873
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 2: shiny things, lose interest too quickly, and as such enhance

874
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Speaker 2: the reputation as fly by nitis, interested in cliques, not

875
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Speaker 2: knowledge my work. Cover it properly or don't cover it

876
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Speaker 2: at all could be a guiding idea. Some of the

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Speaker 2: fifty things are a bit lightish in nature, and some

878
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Speaker 2: of this is not a criticism of the piece. In fact,

879
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: we should all be grateful someone bother to give us

880
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Speaker 2: this overarching insight. Hence it behooves us to absorb it.

881
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Speaker 2: But some basically tell you what you thought they would, Namely,

882
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people turned up as you would expect,

883
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Speaker 2: to hate on it, thus drawing into questioning the whole

884
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Speaker 2: submission process. Is it really worth anything? Does it achieve anything?

885
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Speaker 13: More?

886
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: Importantly?

887
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Speaker 5: For me?

888
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: Was my suspicion? Was confirmed that there remains great debate

889
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: over the treaty and its principles, and as such David

890
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: Seymour was more than right to do what he has done.

891
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: The High and Mighty turned up and basically argued with

892
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: each other. The treaty is not settled, or anywhere close

893
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 2: to it. It is not defined. Now you can find

894
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: scholars and lawyers and experts will tell you the one thing,

895
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: full of them, full of vigor and eloquence, and then

896
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Speaker 2: you can find another equally qualified person saying exactly the opposite,

897
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Speaker 2: and how wrong they are. Hence we are where we

898
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Speaker 2: are and where we are. Sadly, is that for now

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Speaker 2: the end of the road, because the bill, as we

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Speaker 2: all know, will be voted down, which is a shame

901
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Speaker 2: given as Miss Smith's list surely shows a definitive understanding.

902
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: Is well and truly overdue. Asking which brings me my

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Speaker 2: trip to work this morning.

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Speaker 5: And it was.

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Speaker 2: So many cones I cannot even tell you another Simian

906
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Speaker 2: Brown special cones are over speed limits are going up,

907
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Speaker 2: Morrification's gone, but I'm wading my way through cone. I

908
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Speaker 2: turned left to see that it was a whole intersection

909
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Speaker 2: left right forward, backwards behind me, trucks, cones, lights. You

910
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Speaker 2: would think they were literally building the new Manu Stadium.

911
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 2: But no, there was one guy on a corner looking

912
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Speaker 2: in a man hole. Anyway, I'd come around the corner.

913
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Speaker 2: More thousands of leading up to the intersection, hundreds of

914
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Speaker 2: meters of cones, hundreds of cones just lined up for

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Speaker 2: a grain collection at two thirty in the morning of

916
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Speaker 2: well me and then because there were so many cones,

917
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Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself because going down this road,

918
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Speaker 2: I thought, how am I going to turn right? Because

919
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Speaker 2: I need to turn right. How am I going to

920
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Speaker 2: turn right into my little road? So many cones? So

921
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Speaker 2: it became a chicane. I liam lawsened myself and pretended

922
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Speaker 2: I was at Elbert Park this coming weekend and got through.

923
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Speaker 2: But really for all the stuff, and this is why,

924
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Speaker 2: as I keep saying this government has the polling trouble

925
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Speaker 2: they have. Do not promise stuff if you don't deliver it.

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Speaker 2: You said very specifically, road cones were gone, speed limits

927
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Speaker 2: were up, The bollocks is disappearing, the molorification is over.

928
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Speaker 2: The economy is We're going to get that fired up

929
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Speaker 2: and ready to go. A year and a half in

930
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Speaker 2: runs on the board are required, and that is why

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders are growing increasingly frustrated. Nikola Willis is.

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Speaker 1: Next your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Husking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life

934
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Speaker 1: your Way, News dogs head be.

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Speaker 2: Just joining us. The good news out of Saudi is

936
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Speaker 2: that Rubio has managed to get the Ukrainians on board,

937
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Speaker 2: or the Ukrainians of Equiesta or whatever you want to

938
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Speaker 2: say it. We've got a deal of sorts towards a ceasefire.

939
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Speaker 14: Is Rubia the only way out to end this war

940
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Speaker 14: is to negotiate out of it. There's no military solution

941
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Speaker 14: to this war. The solution to this war and the

942
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Speaker 14: way to end it and to achieve the President's objective

943
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Speaker 14: of peace is to negotiate. But before you can negotiate,

944
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Speaker 14: you have to stop shooting at each other. And that's

945
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Speaker 14: what the President has wanted to see and that's what

946
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Speaker 14: that's the commitment we got today from the Ukrainian side,

947
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Speaker 14: their willingness to do that obviously, now that I'll be

948
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Speaker 14: delivered to the Russia.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. This is Mike Watz, who's also with Rubio.

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Speaker 20: The President has made it clear and certainly made it

951
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Speaker 20: clear to us that off fighting needs to stop, and

952
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Speaker 20: the Ukrainians have agreed to that proposal. They're ready for peace,

953
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Speaker 20: and now we'll take that to the Russians and get

954
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Speaker 20: their response.

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Speaker 2: Now, my concern here is that the Russians are giving

956
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Speaker 2: up nothing unless they're blustering, which they probably are, at

957
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Speaker 2: which point, if they do give up nothing and there

958
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Speaker 2: is no deal, does Trump then make good on the

959
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Speaker 2: promise that he's going to sanction the Bejesus out of

960
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Speaker 2: them until he's forcing them to the table. And if

961
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Speaker 2: he does all of that and the war ends, Surely

962
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Speaker 2: the question needs to be asked of Biden, why couldn't

963
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Speaker 2: he do the same thing? And surely the question needs

964
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Speaker 2: to be asked of Europe Why couldn't they achieve the

965
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Speaker 2: same thing? Or is there something in the deal that's

966
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Speaker 2: yet to be sorted out that the Europeans are not

967
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Speaker 2: happy with? In other words, Ukraine almost certainly is going

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Speaker 2: to have to acquiesce on some territory and what sort

969
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Speaker 2: of guarantees are there from the Americans point of view

970
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Speaker 2: you as to whether the Russians roll again and all that.

971
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of water still to go

972
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Speaker 2: under the bridge. But I mean the main question being

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Speaker 2: if you can end a war in a couple of

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Speaker 2: months as president, why couldn't every other president, every other

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Speaker 2: prime minister all over the world in the last three

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Speaker 2: years do exactly the same thing? Twenty one minutes away

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Speaker 2: from it politics Wednesday, I love this song back, Bruce

978
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Speaker 2: Hornsby wrote, Do you really? Bruce Hornsby wrote, And that's

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Speaker 2: the other thing I need to say. We need Bruce

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Speaker 2: Hornsby on the program because we've never had him on

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Speaker 2: the program and we need to have him honor us.

982
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Speaker 2: There such a great musician who also on the program. Well,

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Speaker 2: Steve Walling, why not? Well he didn't write the series

984
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Speaker 2: only thing anyway? Where am I? Back to the procurement

985
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Speaker 2: business where these local businesses get some sort of foot

986
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Speaker 2: up when it comes to bidding for government work. A

987
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Speaker 2: lot of rules get dropped, which is good a small

988
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: deals under one hundred thousand k deal. The expectation is

989
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Speaker 2: the local will get the job anyway. The Economic Growth

990
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Speaker 2: Minister Nicolai willis on this good morning.

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Speaker 13: And a very good morning to you.

992
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Speaker 2: The price aspect, do are we being gouged?

993
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Speaker 24: Do?

994
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 2: A lot of big international players come in low ball

995
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Speaker 2: it and then try and recoup later.

996
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Speaker 15: Look, I do hear that from some small businesses who

997
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Speaker 15: are trying to get government contracts. Which they also tell

998
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Speaker 15: me is look, we seem to sometimes know the price

999
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Speaker 15: of everything and the value of nothing, which is to say,

1000
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Speaker 15: it's all very well and good. The Aussie firm pipping

1001
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Speaker 15: the key, we firm at the post at a lower price.

1002
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Speaker 15: But then what about the opportunities that robs from New

1003
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Speaker 15: Zealanders in terms of job, skill development, the building of

1004
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Speaker 15: a small business into a larger business. And we do

1005
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Speaker 15: need to take that into account and that's what these

1006
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Speaker 15: new rules allow us to do.

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Speaker 2: Can you are there people who are genuinely any good

1008
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Speaker 2: at big stuff? I mean the small stuff I'll come

1009
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Speaker 2: to in a moment, but the big stuff, if you

1010
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Speaker 2: can go local, are there people to make it local?

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Speaker 15: Well, let's think about it. So you think about Datacom.

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Speaker 15: Actually they are an at scale firm who specialize in

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Speaker 15: a delivery of digital services. And there are other firms

1014
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Speaker 15: that are of a similar scale. Are there bigger firms

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Speaker 15: in Australasia and in Asia?

1016
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Speaker 13: Sure there are. But how do you become a bigger firm?

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Speaker 15: You actually get a few big contracts, you build up

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Speaker 15: your skill and your expertise over time, and that is

1019
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 15: the case. Similar in the construction area or in many

1020
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Speaker 15: other areas. It's actually getting the big government contracts sometimes

1021
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Speaker 15: that allows a firm to get to an expert size.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so here we are Wednesday morning and you're waiving

1023
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Speaker 2: the patriotism flag. Tomorrow you're going to be saying to

1024
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Speaker 2: all the international big boys have flown into the country,

1025
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Speaker 2: come on and we love you. So how do those

1026
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Speaker 2: two messages dovetail?

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Speaker 15: Well, I only want firms coming to New Zealand to

1028
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Speaker 15: invest if I can be clear that they're going to

1029
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Speaker 15: create benefits for New Zealanders. So when international firms come here,

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Speaker 15: often it's their investment that will allow New Zealand businesses

1031
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Speaker 15: to expand, to create more jobs, to invest in the

1032
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Speaker 15: next piece of kiss or the next factory that allows

1033
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Speaker 15: them to pay hire incomes. So this is about the

1034
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Speaker 15: fact that we're in a race for the world's money,

1035
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Speaker 15: and international money when it comes to New Zealand can

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Speaker 15: benefit Kiwis.

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Speaker 13: That's the point.

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Speaker 2: As far as this procurement thing goes, this value to

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, who decides that how's it literally measured?

1040
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Speaker 15: So literally, what we're doing is requiring every gauge agency

1041
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Speaker 15: that's using public money that it must require that their suppliers,

1042
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Speaker 15: when they're tendering for projects, must demonstrate how they will

1043
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Speaker 15: deliver economic benefits to New Zealand.

1044
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Speaker 17: And.

1045
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Speaker 15: Agencies are required to wait that as at least ten

1046
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Speaker 15: percent of how they decide on the contract, and they

1047
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Speaker 15: must consider opportunities like providing skills and training, employing workers here,

1048
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Speaker 15: paying taxes here, developing New Zealand industry capabilities, and agencies

1049
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Speaker 15: need to demonstrate when they've picked those contracts how they

1050
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Speaker 15: measured those things.

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Speaker 2: I just can't work out in a country that's broke

1052
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Speaker 2: and we hire the cheapest, suddenly we're not hiring the

1053
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Speaker 2: cheapest because we love New Zealander's not that I'm against it,

1054
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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering whether we're just this has got a

1055
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Speaker 2: bit more froth and bubble than substance to it.

1056
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Speaker 15: Well, as I've said, it includes a minimum weighting of

1057
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Speaker 15: ten percent for those economic benefits. Of course, cost will

1058
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Speaker 15: still come into it. You still want people to be

1059
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Speaker 15: able to get value for money. But it's about the

1060
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Speaker 15: fact that when you're choosing a contract, you don't just

1061
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Speaker 15: choose the cheapest one. You weigh a number of factors,

1062
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Speaker 15: and it's important for the growth of the New Zealand

1063
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Speaker 15: economy that these billions of dollars the government spends every

1064
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Speaker 15: year actually generating some jobs and some incomes and some

1065
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 15: benefit for New Zealand, not just lining the pockets of

1066
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Speaker 15: foreign firms.

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Speaker 2: I was watching you yesterday with the debt cost in

1068
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Speaker 2: the House, and I'm looking at the Wellington lame O

1069
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Speaker 2: councils and I'm just is this a quagmire of an

1070
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: aptitude in this country? Do we have the wherewithal to

1071
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Speaker 2: actually pull our finger out and get our act together?

1072
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Speaker 15: I think this should be our wake up call moment.

1073
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Speaker 15: We went through six years of complacency and which we

1074
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Speaker 15: allowed the government to tell us every problem could be

1075
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Speaker 15: solved with more money being spent or the truth is,

1076
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Speaker 15: we've got to work for it.

1077
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Speaker 13: We've got to earn for it.

1078
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Speaker 15: And this is an economy that can grow in which

1079
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Speaker 15: we do have messes of growth potential. We've got to

1080
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Speaker 15: get a bit of red tape out of the way.

1081
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Speaker 15: We've got to be more sensible with our government policies.

1082
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Speaker 15: But we're a reform and government who's making all of

1083
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 15: that possible and I've got huge optimism for New Zealand.

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Speaker 13: We've got what it takes. We've just been getting in

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Speaker 13: our own way.

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Speaker 2: But you gave them the opportunity in Wellington for infrastructure,

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00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: give us a plan, and five of them, however many

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00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: there are, couldn't even come up with a plan.

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Speaker 15: Oh look, I'm not going to make any apologies for Wellington.

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Speaker 15: I was so embarrassed by that episode. They couldn't even

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00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 15: put their bickering aside for long enough to come together

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00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 15: and say, hey, this is what our region needs.

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Speaker 2: This is the NIOLA, that's what you're dealing with.

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Speaker 15: Well that's Wellington on that episode. But do you know

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00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 15: what I have faith and ratepayers who have the power

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00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 15: of the vote.

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Speaker 13: In come council time.

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Speaker 15: Mike, I reckon, you'll be seeing some changes and well.

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Speaker 2: You want to hope, So all right, go well appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis's Economic Growth minister. By the way, Justin Elbow

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Speaker 2: is going to be embarrassed given in what he said

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00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: poster his phone call. Memory came bouncing out from the

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00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: phone call, so excited to talk with Donald Trump and

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00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: exemptions and tariffs and all that sort of stuff. He's

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00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: just announced there are as we predicted on this program. Indeed,

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00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: there are no exemptions, so you'll have to take that

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Speaker 2: to the election. Seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Mike is CEO of New Zealand manufacturing company established in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. I possess extensive experience proven capacity to

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Speaker 2: deliver on these projects. We're committed to authentic New Zealand

1113
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: made products and actively participate in the Buy a New

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00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: Zealand campaign. However, we face significant challenges competing with Chinese imports,

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00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: particularly when government procurement favors resellers who import from China

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00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: and market themselves as local. Procurement practices make it increasingly

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: difficult to compete. Well, we'll watch and wait.

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00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 5: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I get in the email first thing this morning, having

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Speaker 2: battled my way through the road cones in Auckland. Just

1121
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: wanted to drop you a note to let you know

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00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm tuning into your show every weekday via I Heart

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Speaker 2: from Vietnam. Retired at forty one. There you go, and

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Speaker 2: have left New Zealand to live with the family in Bali.

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Speaker 2: Currently relaxing pull sided resorts across Vietnam and Thailand for

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00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: the next two months, and it's great to tune in

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00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: and listen. Please never quit. You're a source of sanity

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00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: for Kiwis like myself. It's very pleased to hear that.

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00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 2: Here's a shot as a photo from the resort we're

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Speaker 2: currently at. If you get the chance to visit Vietnam,

1131
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: I highly recommend Mere Resort in Na Trang. I hope

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00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: I've got that right. Beaz are a dollar thirty. They've

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: got New Zealand wines as well. It'll be even better

1134
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: if they had New Zealand milk and cheese. So can

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00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: only hope the trade deal in Vietnam pays off pus.

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00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: The amount of investment going on here is putting New

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Speaker 2: Zealand to shame. Retired at forty one, eh, tired of

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00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: forty one bed.

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Speaker 4: I've always wanted to retire.

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00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm worried that i'll I have to keep listening

1141
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: to you like he is. Well, that's part of the deal.

1142
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: All the people who are no, no, no, no, All the

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00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: people who retire really have to listen to me. By

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Speaker 2: the way, speaking of local body politics and Nicola Willis,

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Speaker 2: as we were in a moment, ago is it a

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00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: good idea? Wanganui. Wan Anui is paying people to be

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00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: part of a group. So you register your name and

1148
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: they've got a whole bunch of people three hundred so far.

1149
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: They will eventually pull forty random names out of the

1150
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: hat and you will be paid five hundred dollars to

1151
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: attend a series of four to five meetings to discuss

1152
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: swimming outdoors in the Wanganui area.

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 18: It's not enough.

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00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: No, well that's what I thought personally too. But this

1155
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: is that the seed of an idea. So swimming outdoors

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: is clearly a thing in Wanganui, so they need to

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00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: talk about it. But four or five meetings of up

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Speaker 2: to three hours each three hours.

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Speaker 18: First of all, it have to be at least five

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Speaker 18: hundred dollars a meeting.

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Speaker 2: First of all, to say the meeting is going to

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00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: last three hours? Is your first ru paula up if

1163
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: you said, look tea and biscuits and twenty let's get

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00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: this under the rape right, sell it upseller anyway, So

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00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: it's going to cost thirty thousand dollars to the council

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00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: to do it. I actually think there's a seed of

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: a thought here. I'm not interested, but that's just me.

1168
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: But people might be, and if they are, the participation

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00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: rate goes up. My only consume would be the people

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Speaker 2: who are retired, who have more time on the hands,

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00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: might dominate proceedings. Therefore, you might not get a good

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Speaker 2: collection of views.

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Speaker 5: So what are we talking about in the river?

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00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: No pools and stuff? Or could be the river? Well

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00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: that could be for the next meeting, Glenn, Glenn, we're

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00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: talking about pols. Next meeting deals with the river.

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Speaker 5: Where do I see my invoice?

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00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: There we go nine minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News

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00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: togs had been.

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00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: Six away from a quick word on the Rugby high

1182
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: School Rugby it's in for a shake up. New proposal.

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00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: Kids won't play fifteen aside anymore until they get to

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00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: high school. Planners ten A side up to year seven,

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00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: thirteen a side and year eight and the participation development

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: manager at the Rugby Union, Mike Hester's with us. Mike,

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00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning Dose. You love mucking around with

1188
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: the rules and stuff, don't you.

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Speaker 9: I always looking to innovate and evolve the game.

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: What's what's the point.

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 9: So we make these changes to ensure that we keep

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00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 9: kids in the game. We continue to work on that

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Speaker 9: rugby more appealing and enjoyable, safer, but also providing opportunities

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00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 9: for kids to continue his skill developments so that when

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Speaker 9: they do reach those sort of late teenage years and

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Speaker 9: adult year is that they've got all the skill sets

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Speaker 9: and experiences in the game sense that they need to

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Speaker 9: serve the ambition they've got, whether it's to play locally

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Speaker 9: in the community or to issue a professional career.

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Speaker 2: How literally does that play out with ten a side?

1201
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: What's literally the difference between ten and fifteen.

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00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 9: What we know is that through modern sports research is

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00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 9: that we want to try and give kids more optionities

1204
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 9: to get their hands on the ball, to be more involved,

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00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 9: more engaged, and obviously the more numbers you have on

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Speaker 9: the field, it means those opportunities or those manyful minutes

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Speaker 9: to do they're adminished. And so when they're going through

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Speaker 9: there sort of development stages, particularly as they're learning, we

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Speaker 9: want to try and maximize those minutes. So hence why

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00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 9: over the year groups it gradually grows from sort of

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Speaker 9: seven a side through to the four fifth mannsotasion.

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Speaker 2: Is this a proposal or is it a done deal

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00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: and who you're proposing it to.

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Speaker 9: We've been implementing changes in the space for the last

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 9: five years, so we've done about five the age groups

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00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 9: so far and the last of the changes are going

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Speaker 9: through in twenty twenty six. The second tranch of work

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00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 9: starts to earn us now with sort of consultation with

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00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 9: clubs and schools and communities around what does it look

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00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 9: like from sort of twelve thirteen, fourteen, and obviously in

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Speaker 9: our system because we have junior rugby played up to

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00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 9: under thirteen's and then it transitions to largely secondary school

1223
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 9: rugby in all places, but mostly then we obviously need

1224
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 9: to start engaging with clubs, schools around here network. So

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Speaker 9: those proposals will be sharing those with our communities this

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Speaker 9: year and keen to get their feedback on how that might.

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Speaker 5: Be rolled up.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff might go, well, appreciate it. Mike Histor New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby Eyes and the Hili under Simmons as a

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: prop and he's right, as a prop. If you saw

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: the size of me, you go, how did that happen? Anyway,

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00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: it was it was a prop and what after the

1233
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: scrum collapsed because it always collapsed because we weren't very good. Literally,

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00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: by the time you got up from the collapse scrum,

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Speaker 2: the ball would be literally down the other end of

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Speaker 2: the field, and all you do is run for the

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Speaker 2: next scrum. And that's why I am not in all way,

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Speaker 2: because it would have been close to believe me. Politics

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00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: Wednesday next the news and the news makers the mic

1240
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: asking breakfast with the range rover of the lie designed

1241
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: to intrigue and use togs dead Bee.

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00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 19: Early on Sound in the morning, I heard a word

1243
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 19: from the breach may zebby sweet do your Mamas and

1244
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 19: love your neighbor luck.

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: No, you can as Cody Jinks, and you might know

1246
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: the song because he's singing left to Brazil. Left You

1247
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: Brazil is as big as they get from the olden

1248
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: days of country music. Talk to Willie Nelson about Lefty

1249
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Speaker 2: Brazil and he'll go on and on and on about it.

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01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: Long Black Veil by Lefty. It was the first song

1251
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Speaker 2: that Cody ever learned to play on the guitar, and

1252
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: so he was left off Lefty the one hundred Best

1253
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: Country Players of All Time list, and Cody wasn't happy

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: with that, and so he's done a tribute album to

1255
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: Lefty Brazil and he's got nine songs on there. He

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: could have chosen many, many more. She's gone, gone, gone.

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: That's the way love goes, Sagon or Michigan. If you

1258
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: got the money, I got Time. That's probably the most famous.

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: You've got the money, I got the time. It's a

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Speaker 2: super is that?

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Speaker 17: De believe her?

1262
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: Anyway? He's got nine songs on here, twenty five minutes

1263
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: and forty six seconds. Skinny, it is an it's past data.

1264
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Speaker 2: It's time for politics Wednesday, and Ginny Anderson's will along

1265
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: with Mark Mitchell, Good morning to you.

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01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 11: Good morning, Mike, morning, Jenny.

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Speaker 13: Good morning Jinny. Did you Chris Stapleton or not?

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: Did I like Chris Staples? And I didn't go because

1269
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: I was out of town? But the did you go?

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01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 13: I did go? Yeah?

1271
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: Did you vomit?

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01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: No?

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01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: I didn't, Okay, because there was some vomiting going on

1274
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: and the behavior of people at concerts in this country

1275
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: leaves me cold.

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01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 13: Yes, I look, I would have to. Maybe I'm just

1277
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 13: getting on a bit. That could be it, but I

1278
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 13: would tend to agree with you. The area I was

1279
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 13: in was pretty good, but a little bit over. You know,

1280
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 13: they're paying a few bit for their tickets.

1281
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: You've had a lot of money for tickets. And here's

1282
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: the other thing, because the last concert was the Morgan

1283
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: Wollen concert and the people were so drunk that they

1284
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: literally passed out and missed the concert. And I'm thinking

1285
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: to myself, you pay three hundred bucks to go stand

1286
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: there that you drink yourself silly, and you miss it.

1287
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: What's the point?

1288
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, look, I tend to agree with you, Mike,

1289
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 13: I thought. But the music was amazing. His voice was brilliant.

1290
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 13: The musicians were really on. And I think it's his

1291
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 13: wife who plays with them. I'm not sure his wife.

1292
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 13: I think it is his wife. So I thought that

1293
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 13: was pretty cool.

1294
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: My Now, my assessment of it is he's if you

1295
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: go back to Luke Colmes, he's an officionado, like he's

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Speaker 2: a true artist. Luke Colmes is very commercial, very successful,

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Speaker 2: and God bless him for that. But if you want

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Speaker 2: real talent, I mean top short, top drawer talent, stabletons

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Speaker 2: you man.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, it's the blues influence that gets me. It's

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Speaker 13: that real old school ability to play and tell a

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Speaker 13: good story for a song, and he nails it.

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Speaker 2: What do you recommend? I was at the well.

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Speaker 11: I was at the Rural Games.

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Speaker 17: North rural people, so I love Christaber, but but.

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Speaker 11: That that was it was great to be down there

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Speaker 11: and support them because we've got outstanding sports people in

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Speaker 11: the rule sector that.

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Speaker 2: Sports play rurally.

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Speaker 11: They've got they've got a couple of good fun events

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Speaker 11: like the dry cow pet throw and they tossed the

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Speaker 11: gun boot, which is cool.

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Speaker 2: Did you do that? But no, I didn't.

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Speaker 11: I didn't.

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Speaker 17: I didn't.

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Speaker 11: Well, I wanted to do the gum boot toss because

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Speaker 11: we're not shipping then entire happy we used to do

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Speaker 11: that with it was an annual event.

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Speaker 2: You're the Minister of sport, for God's sake, Why can't

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Speaker 2: the Minister of sport right up and give me give

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Speaker 2: me a gunboat.

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Speaker 11: I do try to participate where I can, but she

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Speaker 11: had to get away to another event. But anyway, the

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Speaker 11: young lady that took out the top award is a

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Speaker 11: world champion. You know, I don't know exactly what the

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Speaker 11: title is, but what she does is she gets up trees, prunes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, one of those. They're fantastic to scamper up the

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Speaker 2: way they do do they mantle things on their legs.

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Speaker 2: She is amazing.

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Speaker 17: She is amazing.

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Speaker 13: The one would they go side side side?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they use a lot of technical gear and things

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Speaker 11: like that as well, and you know, all sorts of

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Speaker 11: contortionous moves as they sort of to do. But it

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Speaker 11: was just nice to she got recognized. She took out

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Speaker 11: the top award, and you know, not normally in a

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Speaker 11: sport like that, it wouldn't get recognized.

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Speaker 2: That was great. Did you want to do that as

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Speaker 2: well yourself?

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Speaker 5: Mark?

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Speaker 2: Or were you a bit busy that?

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Speaker 11: I don't know if they had any ropes strong enough

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Speaker 11: to hold.

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Speaker 5: Me, Jenny?

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Speaker 2: Now, did you have you sat on that? Am I

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Speaker 2: correct and saying I read and featured on the program earlier?

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Speaker 2: There's the piece in the spinoff by a woman who

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Speaker 2: had sat claiming to have for the whole eighty hours

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Speaker 2: of of submissions on the Treaty Principles bill. And have

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Speaker 2: you sat through the whole eighty hours? Have you been

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Speaker 2: on that committee and done that?

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Speaker 21: No?

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Speaker 13: Not the whole eighty hour.

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Speaker 2: It's no how many hours you reckon Because while I

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Speaker 2: got out of her article, which I thought was very instructive,

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Speaker 2: was essentially what we've learnt out of this is you've

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Speaker 2: got a group of people who think it's great and

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Speaker 2: a group of people who don't. Many of them are

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Speaker 2: very articulate, very eloquent, very studied and educated, but they

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Speaker 2: still disagree with each other. Is that fair?

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Speaker 13: I would agree, Yeah, I would agree. I don't think

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Speaker 13: we achieved a heck of a lot. I think there

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Speaker 13: were some great submissions that made really clear points, but

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Speaker 13: I don't think it really got us any further together

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Speaker 13: or closer as a nation.

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Speaker 2: But see what and that brings me to you, Mark,

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Speaker 2: because it's your party that's top and seemore going ahead

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Speaker 2: with us. All these argued all along is we don't

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Speaker 2: have a definition for the treaty in law, and we should.

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Speaker 2: And what this process has proved is that is true. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't we want to move on with this and

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Speaker 2: do something productive with it.

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Speaker 11: Well, I just think that I really like seleic committee

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Speaker 11: processes because it does give you know, it leaves people

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Speaker 11: to engage with our democracy and they have a voice,

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Speaker 11: and I think that's great. We're basically we've said, yep,

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Speaker 11: we just think that's a blunt tool and there's still

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Speaker 11: work to be done.

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Speaker 2: We just think for one hundred and fifty years and

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Speaker 2: there's the outworking of one hundred and fifty years of

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Speaker 2: disagreements in front of it Select Committee. No one agrees,

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Speaker 2: even the most expert of experts does not agree. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: we need to sharpen it up and shape it up

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Speaker 2: and do something, don't we.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think Paul Goldsmith is motivated to do

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Speaker 11: work on that. But we just like you said, and

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Speaker 11: we just felt this was a very blunt tool in

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Speaker 11: terms of the way to achieve that. So there will

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Speaker 11: be work going on. It just won't be through the

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Speaker 11: Treaties Principle bill.

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Speaker 2: It's all all right.

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Speaker 13: The point the point would be, what's the point of

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Speaker 13: eighty hours if that's not going any further? And I

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Speaker 13: think that's the problem. Was a waste of resources and time.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can also say that about it. My broader

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Speaker 2: point is that's the that's all select committees, isn't it,

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Speaker 2: Because you're aways going to find people who hate on something,

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Speaker 2: people who like something, and.

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Speaker 13: Then at least but the law changes, something comes out

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Speaker 13: at the end of it. Is the only one I've

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Speaker 13: said on either for all of that time, and nothing happens,

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Speaker 13: stops in the water.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think that, I mean labour took similar bill

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Speaker 11: through themselves when they're in Parliament that got killed off

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Speaker 11: as well.

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Speaker 2: So but I think that you name it.

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Speaker 11: It was a treaty. It was a treaty principals bill

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Speaker 11: that Labor brought into the House as well through the process.

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Speaker 15: Making it.

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Speaker 2: There can check your history negotiation.

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Speaker 11: You don't even know this. You don't even know that

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Speaker 11: treaty negotiated.

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Speaker 13: On treaty.

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Speaker 2: Brief break more in a Moment fourteen Past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Six Thing Past Politics Wednesdays Anderson, Mark Mitchell two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five, Mark, Yeah and five.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Mark, Now hot tap. When you're asking your staff

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Speaker 13: me to go google it, I could hear yes, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, staff for for Jenny. Google listeners. The listeners are

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Speaker 2: all saying, two thousand and five. Here we go, Jenny.

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Speaker 2: Principles of the tricky by taking you bill June eight,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and five in Parliament Select Committee for every

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Speaker 2: year is that the one.

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Speaker 13: Didn't support it didn't support No, You're right, I was right,

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Speaker 13: Labor did not support it.

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Speaker 2: Journey nineteen eighty nine, Fourth Labor Government. I was in

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Speaker 2: third four well it doesn't make it doesn't mean they

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Speaker 2: weren't doing it. Jenny nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 13: Nine did know the history two thousand and five. You

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Speaker 13: don't know the history. Mark, they didn't support it.

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Speaker 2: What's the matter with your staff?

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Speaker 7: Mark?

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Speaker 2: Who you got there? For goodness sake? Tell me to

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Speaker 2: do something so good? Exit? Can I congratulate you, by

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Speaker 2: the way, Jinny, just quickly on the promotion that you

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Speaker 2: got over the week on Friday. So that's good, thank you.

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Speaker 13: I'm pleased to keep please as well, though, so you should,

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Speaker 13: so you should, and you might have got off, but

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Speaker 13: let me just finish. No, I'm really pleased to be

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Speaker 13: part of that that that new economic team, and I

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Speaker 13: think it's going to be really good work that New

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Speaker 13: Zealanders do need done.

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Speaker 2: As part of your jobs, you're going to pay people

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Speaker 2: to do nothing again like you did last time.

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Speaker 13: No, I won't be doing that, but I'd like to

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Speaker 13: pay them more.

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Speaker 2: I think he would pay them more to do nothing.

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Speaker 13: And I think they need higher scale jobs as well.

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Speaker 13: So we need to not have cases like Callahan and

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Speaker 13: the Heart here where they've laid off over a hundred

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Speaker 13: scientists with no plan of wire to put them and

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Speaker 13: they're all going to the Netherlands or Australia, the ones

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Speaker 13: I've spoken to, so I would say that's a silly

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Speaker 13: idea and we need to not do things like that.

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Speaker 2: Give me sorry, Mark, No, I.

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Speaker 11: Was just going to say, I hope she's better than

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Speaker 11: a roll with police. When I think about police under Labor,

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Speaker 11: you had Ginny Anderson, Chris Sipkins, Poto Williams and Meaghan Woods.

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Speaker 11: It was like a bad episode of.

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Speaker 2: Kick to be fair. I think I think is the

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Speaker 2: best of those four. I think is the best of

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Speaker 2: those four.

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Speaker 11: Lord, public safety is than the top three priorities that

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Speaker 11: was announced. Boy, Chris Hipkins, I mean, it's just a

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Speaker 11: it's a joke, but look that the reality, the serious

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Speaker 11: side of it is that jobs are critically important. We're

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Speaker 11: coming through a really tough period in terms of the

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Speaker 11: economy and you know, but the reality of it is,

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Speaker 11: might we're right were the pre election budget update under

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Speaker 11: Labor was projected to be exactly where we are. We

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Speaker 11: just got a really hard rule about growth. We're about

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Speaker 11: the economy, We're about the return of jobs.

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Speaker 2: Do you think give me your take the National Party

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Speaker 2: take on this lunches thing, because I'm just desperate to

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Speaker 2: move it on to something vastly more important. But it's

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Speaker 2: we seem to be bogged down in what's turning out

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Speaker 2: to be a political mind feel for you people.

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Speaker 11: Look, yeah, and David is working flat out on that

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Speaker 11: to make sure. Look from what I understand that the

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Speaker 11: actual delivery of the lunches is as good, but obviously

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Speaker 11: there's been some issues with it, and David's working flat

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Speaker 11: out on that.

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Speaker 13: And one of those companies is that liquidated now, as

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Speaker 13: looks like.

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Speaker 2: That does make any difference, though, Jinny, to be fair,

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Speaker 2: if the company is in liquidation and the delivery keeps

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Speaker 2: going as sad as it is for the company, what's

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Speaker 2: it matter?

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Speaker 5: Kid?

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Speaker 2: Still get to the point.

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Speaker 13: The point, the point I would make is all the

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Speaker 13: schools I visited who ran their own program, and albeit

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Speaker 13: at cost a bit more, they would employ two or

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Speaker 13: three local people or local small businesses to provide those lunches,

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Speaker 13: and so that keep the local economy going. It was

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Speaker 13: better food.

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Speaker 2: Jobs, of course, but that's what happens. If you keep

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Speaker 2: spending money you don't have, which is what you were doing,

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Speaker 2: employing people doing stuff, then that's always going to be

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Speaker 2: the case. But we can't afford that.

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Speaker 1: We have no mother.

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Speaker 11: There was one hundred and thirty million dollars war.

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Speaker 13: Under label, people get paid more. The economy grows, but not.

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Speaker 2: When it's funded journey from debt. You can't. I can

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Speaker 2: go borrow one hundred thousand dollars from the bank and

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Speaker 2: give it to you. You can go and spread it

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Speaker 2: all over the lower Hut today and you go look

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Speaker 2: behind it. But I mean, I've still got to pay

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Speaker 2: the debt back.

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Speaker 11: They don't solve it. Might they don't understand their solution.

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Speaker 13: Their solution to growing economy is to open it up

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Speaker 13: for foreign investment. And we can't just continue cutting things and.

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Speaker 2: For an investment.

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 11: But we need good foreign investment here.

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01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 13: I'm not saying I'm just saying we've got to be

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01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 13: cautious about it.

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01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 11: But your but your answer is Jenny, And whether it's

1520
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 11: your jen to is you just you guys just don't

1521
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 11: get it. You come into the house and you say

1522
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 11: we'll just appropriate more money, We'll just.

1523
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 10: That's tax payers.

1524
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 13: Well you just say, well, you just said it now

1525
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 13: with the sandwiches, I said foreign investment wasn't the answer

1526
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 13: to all of our economic problems. We've got a downward

1527
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 13: spiral of cutting, people losing their jobs, a lower tax take,

1528
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 13: and the economy keeps shrinking. We've got to break that

1529
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 13: downward cycle.

1530
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 11: Foreign investment. Foreign investment is an important part of the

1531
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 11: entire puzzle in terms of and the leaders that we

1532
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 11: have to pu use the government to get us back

1533
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 11: on track to be in a rock star economy.

1534
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: Is the foreign buyers house band being announced tomorrow or Friday?

1535
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 2: The lifting of that?

1536
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 11: Look, I don't think there's any announcement around that tomorrow.

1537
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 11: At the summer there will be an announcement around some

1538
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 11: infrastructure projects.

1539
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: When's the foreign and when's the foreign house band lifted?

1540
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 5: Then?

1541
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: Is that not part of it?

1542
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1543
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 11: I don't know where we are on the work with that,

1545
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 11: but I know that Erica Stamford's you know, working fled

1546
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 11: out on those settings.

1547
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 2: But that announcement is coming though I'm assuming I thought

1548
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: it would have been tied up with the thing tomorrow.

1549
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 11: There's no there's there might be an immigration announcement tomorrow,

1550
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 11: I'm not sure. I don't think it relates to that,

1551
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,839
Speaker 11: but there's definitely in some announcements Topiery and infrastructure projects

1552
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 11: that we really want to engage and find some good

1553
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 11: foreign cap coming.

1554
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: All right, nice to see you guys. We'll catch up

1555
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: next week. Jenny Anderson, Mark Mitchell eight twenty two.

1556
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villain News

1557
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: talksad B.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 2: You may have seen the famous Bay of Islands boat,

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01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 2: the elmer G on television recently, historic one hundred and

1561
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,799
Speaker 2: three year old boat. It's owned by the Vida Retirement

1562
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: community in Kerry, Kerry, which is called the Pinaway Order.

1563
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 2: Residents live life their way by going on regular fishing

1564
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 2: adventures and throwing a line, and lately the residents have

1565
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: been catching a lot of snapper. In fact, there's been

1566
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: so much snapper they share it with the neighbors as well.

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Plenty of delicious fresh fish for dinner everyone. So the

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01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 2: onmo g looks spectacular as it glides through the water.

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: Residents living life there way, it's brilliant. They haven't just

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: got a boat either, by the way, at r Vida

1571
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: Ta Punaway Order, they've also got lifestyle opportunities available brand

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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: new one, two or three bedroom villas, open plan living,

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01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: indoor outdoor flow. So whether you have keen fisherman, someone

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01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: who enjoys a regular cruise on the ocean. This could

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01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: well be the village for you. The retirement community with

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: a one hundred and three year old boat.

1577
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 5: How good.

1578
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: So to find your nearest A Vida living Well community

1579
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: book a tour are Vida, which is a r v

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: D A vida dot co dot in z Pasky. So

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: Ontario's back down now on the twenty five percent power

1582
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: which led to the fifty percent reciprocal tariffs. Lutnek and

1583
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 2: Ontario have got together. They're going to have talk. So

1584
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: that's on now. It's off. Labour's Confidence and Supply deal

1585
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: with New Zealand First two thousand and five required Labor

1586
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 2: to support a build Select Committee that would delete all

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: treaty principles from legislation. Labor previously voted down against that

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: bill when Winston first brought it in, But then came

1589
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 2: the Confidence and Supply deal and the Nanaima who to quote,

1590
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: sometimes we do things that we do not like, but

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: we need to do them so that we can truly

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01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: appreciate what we have. So Mark was right two thousand

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: and five. It has been done before, and you were

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 2: sharp as always and alerted us to that, and I

1595
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: appreciate your input. As always, Murray Olds is in for

1596
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 2: Steve Price out of Australia, so no drop in quality

1597
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 2: there is what it's after the News, which is next

1598
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 2: year of news talk set.

1599
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: my casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate finding the buyers

1601
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: others can't use.

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: Tog said b They've been voting in Greenland for well

1603
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 2: an election, but for a start, there's no one in Greenland.

1604
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 2: And yet there are six main political parties, most of

1605
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 2: whom support independence, not independence in terms of we love

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 2: a Marria, because they don't. They don't want America. They

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: just want to get out of Denmark. Denmark gives them

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: quite a lot of money every year, so I don't

1609
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,440
Speaker 2: know what they're going to do without the money. Copenhagen

1610
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: provides an annual block grant of about half a billion.

1611
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: That's approximately twenty percent of Greenland's GDP and more than

1612
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: half of their public budget, so if they went independent,

1613
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't know where they're getting that money from. But anyway,

1614
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 2: the party that's most likely to do the best or

1615
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: win is pro independence, and the party who's coming second

1616
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: is pro independent, so they're looking at referenda on independence,

1617
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: so not on America, but getting free of Denmark. So

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 2: that's unfolding as we speak. All fifty six thousand of

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 2: them are voted. I mean, can you believe it? Fifty

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: six thousand people in Greenland and there are six main

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: political parties, so lord knows how many minor political parties

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01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: they are. Fifty six thousand people. I mean, everyone's in

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: a political band.

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 5: No. Trump thinks he can have it well.

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01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: Exactly twenty two minutes away from.

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01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 21: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1627
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 21: mind for New Zealand business ELEMNA in.

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Speaker 2: Our time, and the results from Greenland are coming through.

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: It's not often you hear on the radio stand by.

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 5: For that long. You reckon it'll take to count them.

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01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be funny if it took like several days?

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 2: I reckon, even I could get to fifty six thousand.

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 2: I reckon you probably could. Now, Murray, how are you

1634
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: good morning?

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01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 11: Mike?

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01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty well? Thanks better than now.

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01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 24: Steel manufacturers this morning early here, because of course there's

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 24: no exemption to be granted Australian manufacturers from American tariffs

1639
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 24: on aluminium or aluminum and steel exports that we send

1640
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 24: to the US.

1641
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: And I wonder, and I said, so at the time,

1642
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: might have been to you, might have been to Steve.

1643
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: But I did say at the time Elbow looked way

1644
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 2: too exuberant when he bounded out of the double doors

1645
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: and talked to the world about his phone call with Trump,

1646
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: because he had clearly been sucked into believing that there

1647
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: was going to be the possibility of some exemption.

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01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 5: Well, Trump did say, I would consider it. I will

1649
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 5: consider that.

1650
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 24: You know, Australia can make a special case, being you know,

1651
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 24: a nation that has a trade surplus with America that

1652
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 24: not too many countries have that. But this is a

1653
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 24: it's a big deal for Australia, for Australian steel manufacturers

1654
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 24: was worth four hundred million dollars steel exports to the

1655
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 24: US in twenty twenty three. China, of course, dwarfs that.

1656
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 24: The Chinese market in twenty twenty three for the three

1657
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 24: metals aluminium, iron and steel was worth eighty billion. So

1658
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 24: clearly there's a hell of a lot more at stake

1659
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 24: with China. But nonetheless, I mean it's I mean, we're

1660
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 24: supposed to be allies Washington and Canada were supposed to

1661
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 24: be allies.

1662
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 5: Donald Trump didn't even know what Orcust was.

1663
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 24: And Australia's signed up Mike for nearly four hundred billion

1664
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 24: dollars of submarines that may be obsolete before they're even built.

1665
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 24: And it's just looks crazy now. The Australian stock market yesterday,

1666
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 24: like market's all over the place. It dropped one and

1667
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 24: a half percent in less than an hour at the

1668
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 24: opening because of all this uncertainty. I guess now we

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01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 24: know that these tariffs are going on, but you know,

1670
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 24: don't forget it took Malcolm Turble Well, this is what

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 24: labor is saying over here. When Malcolm Turner was Prime Minister,

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 24: took that administration a year to negotiate carve outs for

1673
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 24: Australian exports with the first Trump administration, So this is

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01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 24: not a done deal. Australia will keep on working behind

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 24: the seats try to get this exemption because it means

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 24: a heck of a lot.

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: Exactly these polls, by the way that we've seen the

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01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: last couple of days is labor back with a sniff.

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01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm reading a very interesting piece a guy called Andrew Caswell,

1680
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: who was Morrison's media unit head and he's saying this

1681
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 2: hole the useless doesn't work anymore. You've got to offer

1682
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: them something to entice them across. Otherwise you had trouble.

1683
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 2: I think it's a not unfair assessment, isn't it.

1684
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 5: No, I agree with that. I agree with that.

1685
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 24: I mean it's not good and I'm going to build

1686
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 24: a nuclear power industry in Australia, but he's refusing to

1687
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 24: tell us how much is going to cost the timeline

1688
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 24: involved here. It's not good enough to say Albanese is weak.

1689
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 24: I mean, you know, yesterday Peter Dutton was saying Albanese

1690
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 24: is scared of Trump and as you know, he's too

1691
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 24: frightened to pick up the phone and argue the k

1692
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 24: And that's just silly. People want more than that. They

1693
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 24: want more than that. There's a heck of a lot

1694
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,440
Speaker 24: more at stake. And yes, Carswell's right. I mean, Albanese

1695
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 24: has looked much much better in the last week or so,

1696
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 24: particularly given the response to the dreadful flooding we've had

1697
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 24: up in northern New South Wales and southeast Queensland. Peter

1698
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 24: Dutton's home city was under seeds from Cyclone Alfred Interestingly,

1699
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 24: it was changed from was supposed to be Anthony Cyclone

1700
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 24: Anthony and they changed the name, of course to Alfred

1701
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 24: because of Albanzi.

1702
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 5: Button nups on a.

1703
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 24: Plane and flies down to Sydney for a multi million

1704
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 24: dollar mansion and a big fundraiser for the Liberal Party.

1705
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 24: I mean that just looks terrible. Albanese is up there

1706
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 24: filling sandbags and whatnot and just looks like a leader.

1707
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 24: So yeah, I think Andrew Carswell is right. It's not

1708
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 24: a done deal by any means, and all the poles

1709
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 24: are still pointing Mike, as you well know. To a

1710
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 24: hung parliament just depends who's going to make up the

1711
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 24: government with the weird sort of Star Wars bar scene

1712
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 24: collective of we got down on Camper.

1713
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: When's the call? Because they've admitted it's got to be May.

1714
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: There's a budget coming and Alfred Mucktadahl up for them.

1715
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: When literally are they going to call it?

1716
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 24: Do you think, Well, it's going to be thirty three days,

1717
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 24: so work back from those first three saturdays in May.

1718
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 24: So I haven't got my calendar in front of me,

1719
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 24: but you know there's going to be a budget now,

1720
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 24: and I think labor won't be unhappy with that. I mean,

1721
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 24: if Albanezi could have just gone bang last weekend, let's

1722
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 24: go to the governor general, call the election, have a

1723
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 24: quick four week campaign and done and dusted.

1724
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 5: Now it's going to be more protracted, more drawn out.

1725
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 24: But Labor won't be frightened to put out a budget.

1726
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 24: They've got some decent things to talk about, you know,

1727
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 24: interest rates. Okay, it's only a quarter of one percent,

1728
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 24: but at least it's you know, the sentiment may be

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Speaker 24: swinging a bit. It could point lots of goodies in

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Speaker 24: the budget for low income earners, for age care and

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01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 24: so on, you know, workers who are getting bugger or

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 24: in the big scheme of things over here. So Labor

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01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 24: won't be unhappy with that more. But there's more time

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01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 24: for Peter Dutton to try and pick holes of what

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01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 24: Labour's offering. And don't forget a lot of what the

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01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 24: coalition's offer so far simply matches what Labour's put up.

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 24: So yeah, look there's a wee way to go yet

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Speaker 24: this election campaign. I mean, I love this stuff. A

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 24: lot of people just glaze o.

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Speaker 5: They just.

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01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but they may want to wake up to

1742
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: it because funnily enough, These are the people who actually

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01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: control the purse strings and the country and the decisions,

1744
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: and your life is as a direct result of that.

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01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: So it sort of behooves you to pay attention, doesn't it?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely right? Couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: All right, mate, I'm going to appreciate you one. I'll

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Speaker 2: see you Friday. All the best, Mike. Two and a week,

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Speaker 2: Murray up for that. Two in a week. We've clearly

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01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: got to go on and think about it, doesn't he Eh,

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01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 2: he is not too sure. Steve's in an operation today,

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01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 2: so he'll be back on next week. We're taking like

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: a military operation sixteen minutes away from nine asking Health

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01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: New Zealand. This is the quest. I don't know who interview,

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01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: but we're going to do somebody about it. But so,

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: Health New Zealand awarded a two million dollar contract to

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Speaker 2: a UK based firm linked to a guy called John Bennett,

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 2: who is reported this morning as being an embattled senior manager.

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01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: The reason he's embattled. The work, by the way, was

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Speaker 2: to carry out work related to patient waiting lists, improving

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Speaker 2: delivery of care and hospitals. He had co founded a

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Speaker 2: company with a guy called Barry and another person back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. He'd resigned as director in twenty twenty,

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: but he remainder of director with the two other companies

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Speaker 2: with this called Barry Barry mel Holland. He's employed as

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Speaker 2: a senior manager role at ACC in September of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. He's been on secondment back to Health New Zealand,

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: but was stood down by IC's ACC on Friday, subject

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Speaker 2: to an investigation after a series of stories reported concerns

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01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 2: about his conduct. Now their separate story. So as conduct

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01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: is one story, the fact he's involved with the business

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Speaker 2: is another story. The part that I'm interested didn't is

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: the part where the government Health New Zealand claims they

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01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: didn't advertise the contract because the company was the only

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01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 2: known provider with the essential skills for the work so

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01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: in the whole world, and what they wanted to do

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01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: was quote carry out work related to patient waiting lists

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01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: and improving the delivery of care to hospitals. There only

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01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: one company in the whole world that can do that,

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01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: and so they didn't need to advertise that. Now, are

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01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: you serious? So we need to talk to someone about that.

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01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 2: Tomorrow fourteen to two, The.

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Speaker 2: some questions for you. Well, first of all, hey, Mike,

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01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: isn't it going to be kind of weird whether our

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01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: Olympic athletes running around with Catman dou written over the uniforms.

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01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: Perhaps next time they could be Beijing. No, Catman does

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01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 2: are very well established New Zealand brand. I think it's

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01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: fantastic they're sponsors. I think it's going to work out well.

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Speaker 2: Someone was trying to moan yesterday about the fact that

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Speaker 2: some of the uniforms will be made overseas. I mean,

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01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,839
Speaker 2: wake up call. Just pretty much everything in this country's

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01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: made overseas. We don't make very much in this country

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Speaker 2: anymore at all. It's a beautiful day in Washington. Springs

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01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 2: very definitely arrived in Washington. It's a very It's a glorious, calm,

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01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 2: sunny day. And I only know that because the President

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Speaker 2: at the moment is selecting a tesla. As I told

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Speaker 2: you about earlier on in the program. He's going to

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01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: get a tesla from where's going to pay for it?

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: Because he's feeling sorry for Elon. But my main question

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01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 2: is Elon's turned up with this kid again, and we're

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01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 2: just working out whether the kids should be old enough

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01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: to go to school. There are maybe he's four, but

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01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: he turns up with the same kid, and he's got

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01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: thirteen at least thirteen. I heard the other day's possibility

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01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: of fourteen, but he seems to turn up with the

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01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: one child, so I don't know what's going on there,

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01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: but nevertheless he's turned up with dad. The other question

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Speaker 2: I have, and you'll accuse me of being superficial, and

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: be that as it may. The cap that Musk wears,

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01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: which is the special black make America Great Again cap,

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01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: of all the caps you can get in the Make

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01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 2: America Great Again range, and there's quite a few, because

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01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: I was looking them up the other day and I

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01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: want to buy one. Jack Tame brought me one back

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01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: from Trump one point zero, but I want a Trump

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01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: two point oh one. Anyway, I was looking for Elon's

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01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: one because it's black on black and it's the coolest

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: of the caps. He had it made specially, and yet

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01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't fit his head. So I'm thinking, why would

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01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: you bespoke a hat that doesn't even fit? And Glenn

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01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: quite rightly pointed out he makes cars that way. Nothing

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01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: fits in a tesla either, so good point. One more

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01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: question from me while I'm on the question in front,

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01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: there seems to be some coverage of jd Vance's cousin

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01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: who's criticizing jd Vance on some of the stuff he's doing.

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: Why is a cousin news? Answer me this? And if

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01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: a cousin is news, because every person in public life

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01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: will have somebody who's a detractor within the wider family.

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01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: If it was jd Vance's dad or wife or son

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01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 2: or daughter, does that make it more relevant or less

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01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: relevant than a cousin? If you're going to quote a

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01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 2: cousin as though a cousin's view, and you've seen it

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01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 2: with the Markle family as well, they go to any

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01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: number of cousins to talk about Megan, Why is a

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01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: cousin and their view remotely important? And if a cousin's

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01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: view is important, how many cousins down the track do

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01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: you go before it becomes unimportant? Or do you go

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01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 2: back to school friends, people he once met at a party.

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01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: Where is the line drawn? That's my question? Dine Away from.

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01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: Nine the Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news togs,

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: they'd be.

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01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 2: Get's away from nine. Great story floating about this morning

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01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: on our power, renewables, the whole renewables debate, and why

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01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: we're going into another winter, touch and go on, whether

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01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 2: we've got enough supply the New Zealand solar power. The

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01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: amount of production in this country has hit a record.

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01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: There's never been more solar power production in this country

1851
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 2: is incredible. What percentage of overall generation do you think

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01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 2: solar accounts for the answer is one point three percent.

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01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 2: So for all of the you know, there's room to grow.

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01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: That's the good business story. I suppose peak of one

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01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen megawatts, which is enough to power one

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: six hundred and twenty households. I'm pretty sure there's more

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01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: households in this than that. So for all of the

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01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 2: so called you know, transformation and renewables, we've got a

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01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 2: hell of a long way to go. Five away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with the Chemist Warehouse, the home of big

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Speaker 1: brand ftamins.

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Speaker 2: Right as I was mentioning a moment ago, they're in

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01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: the courtyard. They're talking about Teessle's this is Trump and

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01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 2: Elon and he's obviously Trump has got to his mates,

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01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: because Hennity is in Fox, ais is hennity? By the way,

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01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: I've spoken poorly of EV's two hundred and seventy four

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01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 2: times during the last four years on Biden. Maybe it's

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01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 2: just a gesture on my part, and I like that.

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01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: I like new technology. But it's just a way of saying,

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01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: you know, look what they're doing.

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 5: To this guy.

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01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: What a sellout? What soft cock sellout? Now Trump's out.

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01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 2: He's looking at the Teesla's too.

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Speaker 5: What is this one?

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01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: I've a still bot away, by the way, So I

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01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: have a lot of information that Lindy's approached it.

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01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 6: Yet I want to make a good deal here, you know,

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01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 6: I do notice this.

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Speaker 20: They have one which is thirty five thousand dollars, which

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01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 20: is pretty low.

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Speaker 1: What is that all about?

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01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: He's never seen the thirty five thousand dollars car in

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01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: his life. Of course, you would never clue Elon as

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01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: you heard. It's a motal Why is with him?

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01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 21: Means a lot?

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Speaker 9: And also thank everyone out there who is supporting Tesla.

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01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 12: It's really terrible that there's so much violence being created

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01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 12: against people.

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01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 7: Like Tesla, Tesla supporters, Tesla owners, Tesla stores.

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01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 9: These are innocent people.

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01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 5: Who have done nothing wrong on that.

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01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: He's right one hundred percent. He's right on that. Trump

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01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: and the end is borught an s But the plaid

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01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 2: version the plan if you've never been in one, he's

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01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 2: brought the s play mind. Well, so Trump hasn't even

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01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 2: made up his mind. Well, how can you run in there?

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01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 18: Ry, He's got the full range there on the White

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01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 18: House driveway, just so he can pack which one he likes.

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01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 2: Well, he needs a cyber truck. I'd say go with

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01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 2: the cyber truck because it's the ugliest thing in the

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01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: history of cars. But at least you know you're coming.

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01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: It's a massive thing. So Hannity bought the s plaid

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01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: in the US, the s plants, that's the super powerful one.

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01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: It goes zero to one hundred and just some ridiculous number.

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01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: But you're going to warm the battery up, and the

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01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: batteries very rarely that warm, and it sort of doesn't work.

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01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: But well it didn't work the time I was in one. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: That is us for today. Back tomorrow morning from six

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01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: as always Happy Days.

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