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Speaker 1: Back here in New Zealand, the Education Minister has announced

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Speaker 1: a refresh of the sex ed curriculum in schools. The

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Speaker 1: existing curriculum was designed in two thousand and seven and

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Speaker 1: a recent EERO report found that there are lots of

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Speaker 1: problems with the way it's implemented. A draft of the

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Speaker 1: new topic areas will be available to be taught in

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Speaker 1: term one next year. Debbie Tohill is from the Rape

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Speaker 1: Prevention Education and she joins me now, Debbie good evening, Sure,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with me. What needs I were surprised,

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Speaker 1: as I think the Minister was, to hear that consent

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Speaker 1: wasn't in the curriculum. It's not compulsory to be taught

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Speaker 1: in all schools to all students. Were you surprised to

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Speaker 1: hear that No?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 3: It's an area that we work. Can we educate a

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Speaker 3: lot of schools in the Auckland area?

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Speaker 1: And what do you think needs to be in this curriculum?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we need to ensure, particularly the work that I

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Speaker 3: do is in high schools. We need to make sure

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Speaker 3: that young people have really good understanding of what a

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Speaker 3: healthy relationship looks like and have already got understanding of

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Speaker 3: what consent means.

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Speaker 1: What age should we be teaching kids about this stuff?

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Speaker 1: Do you do? You think?

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Speaker 2: Ah, a lot. We can't begin early enough.

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Speaker 3: I don't think to be talking to our children about consent.

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Speaker 3: But as I say, we work particularly with high school

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Speaker 3: students in years nineteen and thirteen, right.

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Speaker 1: Because some parents, I imagine, and I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a parent myself, so I don't know, but I

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Speaker 1: imagine some parents would have would be uncomfortable with talking

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Speaker 1: with their kids that young talking about sexual stuff.

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Speaker 3: That may be true, but the reality is that all

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Speaker 3: of our almost of our young people are going to

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Speaker 3: become sexually active at some stage, and probably in their teens.

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Speaker 3: So it's really good that they have the knowledge and

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Speaker 3: skills and know what it is that they're getting themselves into.

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Speaker 1: Basically, I think it's really.

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Speaker 2: Important to have those conversations.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't want your kid to have them,

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Speaker 1: then you basically have to take your kid out of school.

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Speaker 3: You can have them remove from that class if that's

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Speaker 3: what you choose.

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Speaker 1: Should we be including things like sexuality and gender identity

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Speaker 1: in this Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think you know, young people at that age are

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Speaker 3: exploring what their thoughts and feelings are around gender and sexuality.

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Speaker 3: It's something that they see more and more on social media,

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Speaker 3: and the better inform they are, the better decisions they

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Speaker 3: are going to be able to make.

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